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A
A
A
second
all
right,
so
do
you
need
to
do
just
a
voice.
Vote
should
be
sufficient,
okay,
so
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
all
against
all
right.
It's
decided.
So,
let's
see
what
is
the
first
thing
that
we
need
to
do
so
so
the
first
thing
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
to
introduce.
We
have
a
new
Commissioner
Commissioner
Jennifer
Draper,
who
is
the
second
from
the
end
that
welcome
to
the
Plan
Commission.
So
the
next
thing
that
I
will
do
is
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process.
A
First
of
all,
we
will
have
a
staff
presentation
and
then
the
petitioner
will
be
able
to
present
that
would
be
followed
by
questions
from
the
public
if
there
are
any
of
the
petitioner.
So
if
there
are
any
one
is
anyone
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
tonight,
they
should
sign
up
on
the
list
outside
the
door.
All
right
is
anyone
planning
to
speak
tonight,
I'd
like
to
swear
you
in.
If
you
are
all
right,
do
you
promise
to
tell
the
truth?
A
Yes,
okay,
good!
Thank
you
all
right.
So
after
after
that,
the
petitioner
can
answer
questions
brought
up
by
the
by
the
public
and
then
then
we'll
take
questions.
We're
gonna
take
questions
first
from
the
plan
commissioners
and
then
from
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
board
members,
and
then
we
can.
We
will
hear
any
statements
that
public
people
would
like
to
make.
C
D
C
E
Don't
you
to
push
this
all
right,
good,
hello,
everyone,
so
the
the
proposed
text
amendments
are
being
considered
tonight
relate
to
a
new
business,
that's
being
proposed
to
locate
at
2119
Ashland
Avenue.
It's
a
combination
of
a
brew
pub
restaurant
offense
base
car
stores
displays
facility,
an
MXC
zoning
district
and
the
text
amendments
being
triggered
by
the
fact
that
in
the
zoning
ordinance
currently
craft
brewery
has
a
permitted
use
in
that
location,
but
a
craft
brewery
does
not
allow
restaurants
and
on
the
flip
side,
restaurants
are
not
a
permitted
use
in
that
zoning
district.
F
E
E
E
E
So
this
lists
the
the
summary
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here,
creating
a
new
use
for
brew
pub,
creating
a
definition
for
that,
combining
the
definitions
of
a
craft
brewery,
the
micro
distilleries
into
one
use,
one
definition
also
allowing
a
restaurant
to
be
located
in
that
type
of
facility
and
not
just
limited
to
a
tap
room
and
then
treating
a
craft
brewery.
This
the
same
as
a
restaurant,
in
terms
of
where
they're
located.
E
E
F
E
F
E
In
addition,
they're
asking
for
variations,
they're
planning
to
construct,
in
addition
to
the
front
of
the
building,
also
in
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
building,
those
are
those
additions
will
require
variations
from
the
setbacks.
If,
right
here,
it's
setback
of
10
feet
is
required.
The
addition-
the
proposed
additions
is
a
zero
foot
setback
and
the
same
for
the
north
side,
I'm
interior
side
yard.
Five
foot
is
required,
zero
feet
is
being
proposed
and
along
the
rear
yard.
Fie
fie
is
required.
Zero
fee
is
being
proposed.
E
C
A
G
Evening
my
name
is
Mike
Hayes
Ian
thanks
everyone
for
being
here
and
thanks,
especially
thanks
to
Michael
and
especially
group,
really
helped
guide
us
through
the
process
and
I've
been
very
helpful.
A
brief
background
of
me.
I
grew
up
in
wool
matter
right
off
of
Isabella
right
by
on
17th
Street,
which
is
Marcy
in
Evanston,
so
going
to
Central
Street
in
Evanston.
Very
often
it
goes.
1978
I
got
my
Schwinn
Magus
grambler
over
on
Central
Street,
which
I
still
have
pretty
awesome
and
Baskin
Robbins
31
flavors
was
right.
G
There
and
I
need
to
play
a
Bullard
school.
So
that's
where
I'm
from
so
with
me,
is
Nick
Hines
and
Scott
Frank
and
are
with
these
guys
a
little
history.
Oh,
we
have
built
over
the
last
eight
years,
we've
built.
We
have
three
successful
restaurants
operating
restaurants
right
now.
The
dock
at
Montrose
Beach,
which
is
in
Chicago
on
the
beachfront,
cafe
Oliva,
also
on
the
beachfront
right
by
Navy
Pier
at
Ohio,
Street,
Beach,
and
then
we'll
Matt.
G
We
have
Nopalito
pizzeria
and
wine
bar,
so
these
restaurants
have
been
operating
for
a
number
of
years
successfully
and
which
is
why
the
only
reason
we'd
try
to
do
another.
One
is
because
we've
done
well.
We
have
a
good
team
of
managers
and
staff
who've
done
a
nice
job,
we're
also
in
the
process
of
building
a
restaurant
also
and
Wilmette.
They
will
be
a
fish
restaurant
Moisture
bar
that's
under
construction.
We
should
be
open
later
this
year,
so
we
are
hoping
that
the
double-clutch
Brewing
Company
is
our.
G
The
three
restaurants
that
we
have
currently
are
employed
more
than
a
hundred
people
and
generate
over
a
half
million
dollars
in
sales
tax
dollars
last
year,
so
we're
hoping
to
add
to
those
numbers.
So
this
would
be
our
first
brew
pub
restaurant
of
course.
So
the
this
concept
came
together.
Over
the
past
year
we
purchased
the
building
about
a
year
ago
and
E
town
CrossFit
is
the
tenant
there
and
E
to
e
town
informers.
G
They
were
going
to
leave
in
September
October,
and
so
this
plan
got
with
our
with
our
partners
and
staff
and
consulting
with
a
lot
of
different
people.
We
formulated
the
plan
and
the
help
of
the
abbot's
of
staff.
We
kind
of
this
plan
kind
of
came
together
and
we
decided
that
this
is
what
we
want
to
create.
G
We
felt
that
this
is
a
this
location
doesn't
have
other
restaurants
or
that
type
of
things
that
we
thought
we
need
as
a
destination,
and
we
need
something
to
bring
people
in,
and
we
thought
that
having
a
brewery
would
bring
people
into
a
restaurant.
That's
there
there's
there.
We
don't
think
a
restaurant
could
survive
easily
in
that
location
without
something
to
bring
people
in.
We
think
a
brewery
will
bring
people
in
and
we
think
the
car
theme
having
some
very
interesting
cars
that
aren't
displayed
will
also
bring
people
into
this
facility.
G
So
the
plan
is
to
have
the
restaurant
in
the
front
open
on
a
daily
basis,
seven
days
a
week.
We
would
we
would
love
to
have
it
open
for
lunch
and
dinner,
provided
we
have
the
business
to
do
so,
and
bulla
we'd
feel
that
we
feel
that
we
can
do
that.
And
then
the
events
base
to
the
back
there
can
be
can
operate
a
separate
event.
While
the
restaurant
is
still
opening
open,
because
it's
we
would
prefer
not
to
shut
down
your
restaurant.
When
you
have
an
event,
you
never
want
to
have
a
restaurant.
G
You
know
if
your
customer
goes
to
a
restaurant
to
shut
down
for
an
event.
That's
a
very
negative
thing.
You
turn
off
your
customers,
so
the
plan
is
to
go
to
have
the
restaurant
operate
and
have
an
event
going
there,
and
then
this
is
the
area
where
the
cars
are.
If
we
had
an
event
large
enough,
we
can
move
all
the
cars
out
and
use
that
for
an
event
too.
G
So
this
is
the
concept
of
the
microbrewery.
This
is
a
very,
relatively
small
brewery,
similar
to
what
similar
to
what
smiley
brothers
did
we're
looking
at
15
barrel
brewing
systems,
and
the
idea
is
to
have
the
brewing
in
the
back
and
the
fermenting
tanks
behind
the
stage
so
they're
on
display.
We
think
it
would
be
a
really
neat
feature
and
we
actually
have
serving
tanks
which
are
additional
steel
vessels
up
in
the
actually
in
the
front.
So
that's
part
of
the
ambiance
to
see
these.
G
Right
we
right,
we've
talked
to
a
bunch
of
our
neighbors
and
we
we've
had
a
lot
of
support
from
the
property
owners
across
the
street,
between
the
dog,
the
dog
daycare
business
and
having
Tracy
from
Evanston
and
printables
and
Charley
who
lives
next
door
to
us
and
and
he
has
the
car
repair,
business
and
and
Buffy
and
John
who
owned
a
bunch
of
properties
there
and
we
met
with
pastor
Dillard.
Just
this
week,
I
neveri
one's
been
very
supportive
and
helpful
now
and
Phil
home
who's.
Here
in
the
audience,
could
we
buy
the
building
from.
I
My
name
is
Kellyanne
Olcott
I
live
at
1519
Simpson
Street
I
can
see
them
out
the
back
door.
I'm
concerned
about
a
few
things:
noise
level
for
a
brewery.
Anything
that
involves
alcohol
I'm
very
concerned
about
when
the
people
leave
your
property,
where
they're
going
how
drunk
they
will
be,
how
loud
it
will
be
parking
major
issue.
Where
are
people
going
to
park
all
right?
They,
you
can't
tell
them
not
to
park
on
the
street.
J
I
H
K
I
I
Especially
when
two
churches
are
in
session,
but
also
parking
generally,
can
you
commit
to
hiring
people
from
the
fifth
Ward
because,
as
you
are
part
of
the
gentrification
of
the
fifth
Ward
now
I
think
that's
something
that
giving
back
to
that
community
specifically,
would
be
helpful
if
you
are
planning
on
coming
into
the
community.
So
those
are
my
questions.
Okay,.
K
Name
is
Nicolas.
Heinz
I
have
tried
to
put
all
these
together
so
first
off
in
terms
of
parking.
We
have
26
spots
on
the
facility
itself
so
for
winning
that
go
29
and
parently
we're
able
51
more
than
I
thought
for
so
we
have
29
spots
on
the
facility
itself.
So
in
terms
of
your
normal
day-to-day
operations,
they
should
be
sufficient
enough
because
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
huge
facility
for
the
brewpub
itself
for
special
events.
K
We've
already
spoken
to
pastor
Dillard
in
the
neighborhood
and
we've
actually
are
currently
working
with
him
and
then
hoping
the
speaker,
the
Jehovah's
Witnesses
and
a
few
other
people
where
we're
gonna
try
to
not
be
open
during
their
services
on
Sunday
and
then
in
written.
So
they
could
use
our
facility
and
then
do
a
little
bit
of
an
exchange
with
them
in
order
to
possibly
use
their
parking
lots
during
special
events
because
they
won't
be
in
then
serveth.
K
You
know,
during
our
normal
special
events,
will
be
it
even
in
the
evening
time,
so
they
won't
be
in
the
middle
of
service.
So
there
lots
are
generally
empty
at
that
time
and
he
seems
very
open
to
that.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
to
apartment
is
we're
trying
to
not
have
too
much
parking
on
the
streets,
because
that's
just
a
nuisance
for
everyone,
so
working
in
conjunction
with
our
neighbours
is,
is
gonna,
be
our
number
one
goal
in
terms
of
that
in
terms
of
valet.
K
We
very
we
have
a
few
different
companies
that
we've
worked
with
in
the
past,
who
have
been
very
reasonable
into
clearing
red
top
and
a
few
other
ones,
so
we
that
wouldn't
be
a
prom
to
provide
them
and
then
we're
gonna
work
out
a
deal
with
the
neighboring
churches
and
other
facilities
for
their
actual
parking
lots
in
terms
of
the
noise
one
of
the
big
problems
with
noise.
A
lot
of
times
is
having
an
outdoor
patio.
We
do
not
have
one,
it's
not
open,
there's
no
service
outside
whatsoever,
it's
all
inside
the
actual
facility.
K
That's
part
of
the
reason
why,
if
you
see
in
the
front
of
one
of
the
proposed
variations
is
for
the
front
setback,
so
it
actually
is
fully
encompassed
in
the
front
there.
So
everything
is
inside
everything
is
compact
and
there's
no
outside
parties,
no
loud
music
like
that,
and
then
on
top
of
that,
the
its
this
isn't
meant
to
be.
You
know,
like
a
frat
party
style,
the
facility.
K
This
is
more
craft
beers,
craft
food,
just
people
are
really
you
know
foodies
and
the
beer
connoisseurs
rather
than
you
know,
just
people
trying
to
go
and
get
rowdy
for
the
most
part,
so
also
in
terms
of
the
alley
you're
concerned
of
the
paving
and
breaking
up
of
the
gravel,
because
it's
an
unpaved
alley.
Well
we're
not
using
that
alley.
The
only
time
that
you'd
be
dealing
with
that
is
maybe
once
a
day
for
a
delivery,
whether
or
not
whether
it
be
for
the
beer,
beer
deliveries
for
the
the
ingredients
or
from
Cisco
or
whomever.
K
K
K
It's
much
much
better
to
get
people
from
the
area
in
the
neighborhood
in
order
to
work
at
the
facility,
a
because
of
the
fact
that
they
know
a
lot
of
the
people
they'll
enjoy
it
if
it's
easy
for
them
to
get
to
work,
also
be
as
an
employer.
It's
great,
because
there
is
a
lot
closer
to
that.
There
is
a
lot
closer,
their
home
there,
it's
more
likely
that
they're
going
to
show
up
and
work
hard
and
be
there
and
be
respectful,
because
these
are
there
is
it.
K
A
A
L
K
Generally,
what
that
means
is
a
lot
of
different
brewpubs
RAM
in
rows
behind
pretty
much
any
of
them.
What
they'll
have
our
crawlers
or
growlers,
which
are
basically
beers,
are
poured
into
a
container
and
then
sealed
up
in
carbonate
inside
its
own
to-go
container?
So
it's
not
an
open
consumption
container.
It's
literally
packaged
right
in
front
of
them
and
then
sent
to
go
and
sold
for
distribution
with.
K
K
In
five
years,
I
can't
say
just
because
you
see
so
many
different
things
change
there
might
end
up
being
a
quicker,
more
efficient,
more
simple
manner
of
packaging
and
to
go
at
the
current
time.
I
just
don't
know
of
one
they
ever
haven't
heard
of
one
okay,
and
it's
and
they've
been
doing
that
for
well
over
a
decade,
and
it's
been
pretty
much
the
standard
up
until
then.
So
thank.
M
M
A
M
Frank,
okay,
so
remember
Frank,
Ruthie,
Brewer,
so
hand.
Cap
to
me
does
sound
more
like
the
growlers,
which
are
the
glass
containers
where
they
literally
are
threaded
on.
They
use
a
heat
seal
to
shrink
the
shrink
wrap
the
lid
to
keep
the
carbonation
in
a
lot
of
brewpubs
are
moving
to
aluminum
cans.
So
you
actually
have
a
much
more
simple
press
which
can't
you
can
fill
this
I
believe
there
are
24
ounce
cans
and
you
can,
or
maybe
the
32
I'm,
not
sure
I
know
a
growler
is
64
I,
believe
the
cans
are
32.
M
You
fill
them
up
right
off
the
tap,
and
then
they
have
a
more
manual
press
that
seals
it.
And
then,
when
the
when
the
patron
goes
home,
they
can
open
it
like
a
can
of
beer
and
pour
it
this
hand.
Cap
speaks
more
and
my
impression
of
that
would
be
of
the
growler
variety.
Not
the
growler,
with
a
C
mm-hmm
I
hope
that
it.
L
M
M
A
N
N
A
A
A
C
To
summarize
that
the
table
on
the
screen
here
shows
where
restaurants
are
currently
permitted,
and
so
that's
starting
with
the
b1
going
down
through
the
d4
and
then
also
in
research
park
and
i1
and
special
use
in
the
i29
3.
So
the
kind
of
change
there
and
we've
been
treating
businesses
that
are
currently
operating
as
brewpubs
smiley
brothers
and
packaged
pig
as
restaurants.
Currently,
so
nothing
would
change
with
those
that
brewpubs
would
still
be
allowed
in
those
same
districts
and
would
be
treated
similarly
in
the
remaining
districts.
C
C
And
so
all
of
these
on
the
map
are
mxc
districts,
with
the
exception
of
the
area,
just
north
of
Main
Street,
along
Custer,
where
the
dart
property
and
Evanston
lumber
are
located
in
that
area.
That's
the
only
existing
mue
area
within
the
city,
so
the
largest
area
was
with
MXC.
Is
the
area
that
we're
speaking
of
this
evening,
north
of
Simpson
to
Green
Bay
there
and
over
from
to
Dewey,
and
then
there
are
several
small
areas.
C
Some
of
them
are
just
one
parcel
along
the
old
Mayfair
rail
line
and
then
a
couple
additional
parcels
or
properties
along
the
railroad
on
Custer.
So
those
are
the
ones
that
would
be.
There
would
be
most
of
a
change.
These
would
be
areas
that
currently
are
not
allowed
to
have
a
restaurant,
we're
proposing
that
you'd
be
able
to
have
a
brewpub
in
those
locations.
A
C
A
D
D
G
F
G
B
G
D
G
F
K
So,
no
that
isn't
anything
other
than
the
beer
that
we
produce
is
not
being
packaged
and
sold
a
lot
of
the
liquor
like
our
liquor
coats.
Allow
for
say:
if
someone
doesn't
finish
a
bottle,
they
you
have
the
bags
that
you
can
seal
up
and
leave,
but
you
can't
we're
not
going
to
be
selling
and
just
handing
people
for
them
to
leave
it's
basically
what
the
remainder
of
what
they've
ordered
and
drinking
consumed
at
the
restaurant.
K
They
have
usually
there's
a
part
of
the
liquor
ordinance
which
allows
you
to
they've
these
specialty
bags
that
you
can,
you
literally
can
put
them
in
there
fold
them
up
seal
them.
Take
it
so
that,
basically,
it's
not
officially
an
open
liquor
container
when
it's
taken
home,
so
that
would
be
the
only
way
other
than
our
own
beer
that
we're
selling
that's
the
only
thing
that
would
be,
and.
D
D
F
M
B
K
Hear
from
most
of
the
people,
we've
spoken
to
it's
about
10,
to
15%
a
majority
of
the
people
who
have
who
get
them
are
actually
sitting
down
and
ordering
and
eating,
and
then,
when
they're
leaving,
though
you
know,
I
really
like
that
beer
and
I'd
like
to
take
some
home.
That's
that's
I,
see
almost
all
of
the
growlers
and
crawlers.
That's
what
generally
happens
or
people
hang
out,
try
something
they
like
and
then
decide
they
want
to
take
some
home
and
keep
it
at
home.
Thank.
O
J
K
J
K
Spoke
of
them
is
their
main
server
was
a
10
o'clock
on
a
Sunday,
and
that
is
Renaud.
We're
not
planning
on
being
a
big
brunch
place,
so
we
would.
We
would
be
completely
open
to
allowing
them
to
use
our
parking
lot
as
well.
If
they
have
overflow
cos,
it
sounds
like
it
gets
pretty
congested
there
during
service
time.
J
K
Our
architect
them
do
you
say
about
I.
Think
of
apples
are
putting
baffles
up
on
some
of
the
walls.
Things
like
that
just
dead
end,
some
of
the
sound
things
like
that
and
maybe
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
it's
already
spray
foamed
so
I
know
that
the
our
rating-
and
that
keeps
some
of
that
inside
as
well.
Okay,.
K
I
can
just
speak
from
my
current
to
their
current
facilities.
We
generally
will
get
with
Nopalito
will
get
about
two
deliveries
a
day
and
but
that's
because
we
go
through
many
different
food
vendors
for
this
one,
it's
more
the
beer
centric
versus
all
the
the
food.
So
a
lot
of
our
stuff
is
going
to
come
from
one
or
two
purveyors
for
the
food
and
so
usually
depending
on
whomever
they
are.
We
would
probably
get
three
a
week
and
those
which
delivery
they
do
whenever
we
request
it.
K
So
if
we're
there
doing
safe,
they
go
to
a
woman,
then
they
drop
off
ours.
It's
usually
about
nine
to
ten
o'clock
in
the
morning,
Monday
through
Thursday,
sometimes
Fridays.
If
we
need
it
and
then
for
for
deliveries
for
anything
else.
Generally,
you
get
it
sometime
before
two
o'clock
and
just
during
the
regular
workday
between
9:00
and
2:00
o'clock,
and
so
I'd
say
I'd
say
you
can
anticipate
about
a
grand
total
of
between
six
and
ten
deliveries
throughout
the
entire
week.
So
at
the
most
two
a
day
and
did.
K
Then
what
it
would
be,
we
would
we'd
have
a
preferred
catering
companies
and
then
our
basically
our
kitchen
to
be
used
as
a
staging
kitchen
for
whomever
would
be
coming
in
because
it's
now
large
enough
facility
for
us.
If
it's
a
300
person
party,
we
don't
have
the
facilities
that
cook
300
steaks
or
300
chicken
dinners
things
like
that.
So
we
that's
what
we've
done
with
some
of
the
other
places
where
we
know
that
we
can't
accommodate
them.
K
J
K
That's
why
we
are
our
general,
our
proposed
general
manager.
He
was
the
general
manager
of
empirical
brewery
in
Rogers
Park,
and
he
stated
he's
already
got
the
name
of
the
name
and
number
about
four
different
farmers
and
what
they
would
do
is
when
they
would
have
the
byproducts
from
them.
They
were
kind
to
send
out
to
the
farmers
and
then
one
of
the
four
of
them
would
they
would
just
basically
say:
okay
are
not
far
out
bakers,
sorry,
so
the
Baker's
would
come
and
pick
them
up
and
then
use
them
for,
for
any
other.
K
You
know
for
their
own
uses,
so
that
would
be
just
for
recycling
of
any
of
the
by-product
from
the
brewing
systems
and
then
also
one
of
the
big
things
are
placed
at
my
trust.
I
know
for
sure
we
had
a
ton
of
bike
traffic,
so
we're
gonna
have
tons
of
bike
racks
up
there,
because,
especially
with
a
brewpub
and
being
in
neighboring
you're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
biking,
bikers
I
believe
having
the
facility
so
and.
J
Finally,
so
the
valet
parking
would
queue
up
on
Ashland
Avenue
in
front
of
the
facility
I'm
just
wondering,
then
how
you
know
it's
a
tight
Street,
the
geometry
of
that
Street
is
fairly
tight.
So
if
you
have
you
know,
cars
sort
of
queuing
up
and
waiting
for
valet
service
and
then
through
traffic
I'm,
just
considering
how
that
would
all
take
place.
Well,.
K
I
mean
for
in
terms
of
CSA.
In
the
worst
case,
there
was
a
300
person
party.
You
when
you
do
the
math
you
just
figure
at
the
absolute
most
you'd
have
a
hundred
cars,
and
so
we
would
start
and
try
to
get
people
to
pull
right
in
there
and
almost
use
our
parking
lot
as
staging
if
we
have
a
deal
with
one
of
the
other
ones,
so
that
the
valets
would
take
it
out
of
there
instead
of
blocking
the
entire
street.
P
P
P
K
P
Q
G
B
Any
other
questions
I
got
a
couple
for
you,
so
let's
go.
Let's
stay
on
parking
on
that
alley
for
a
little
bit,
so
we
know
that
you've
got
deliveries
coming
down
to
deliveries
three
times
a
week
right.
So
that's
far
more
than
what
they've
got
going
down
that
alley
right
now.
We
also
now
know
that
we've
just
added
a
garbage
truck
every
day,
yeah.
F
K
B
K
Of
the
thing
I
mean
we
could
definitely
doing
a
gravel
fill
really
isn't
that
big
of
a
problem.
We
currently
do
that
with
one
of
our
buildings
in
Skokie,
where
we
work
with
a
company
high
net
construction,
and
they
do
a
lot
of
that
and
we've
contracted
with
them.
So
in
the
case
that
we
would
actually
need
to,
we
already
have
that
direct
contact
that
won't
be
a
problem
to
bring
them
in
and
do
that.
Okay,.
B
K
So
a
lot
of
it
depends
on
the
weather
conditions,
but
absolutely
if
it's,
if
it's
it's
in
our
best
interest
to
have
that
thing.
You
know
who
know
potholes,
because
the
last
thing
we
also
want
to
hear
trust
me.
The
a
lot
of
delivery
guys
are
get
a
little
cranky
if
they
have
a
bumpy
ride,
so
we're
all
on
board.
For
that
and.
B
G
Park
we've
been
parking
in
this
alley
on
a
you
know,
right
now
and
there's
plenty
of
room
for
another
car,
even
with
a
garbage
truck
there
we
can
get
you
can
get
around
it
in
some
places.
I
came
back
for
our
build
where
the,
if
the
garbage
cans
were
not
like
doubled
up
like
that,
if
that
was
back
at
the
door,
you'd
be
able
to
fit
a
car
and
easily
get
around
it
right.
B
G
K
One
good
thing
is
with:
without
that
truck
you:
can
they
can
just
basically
take
it
out
and
put
it
right
into
the
door
where
the
the
room
is
there
and
then
are
usually
what
it
is,
is
the
kitchen
staff
brings
it
actually
to
where
it
goes?
So,
that's
why,
with
all
my
other
places,
it's
not
they
don't
take
it
and
put
it
into
my
fridge
or
do
anything
like
that.
They
basically
just
drop
it
off.
My
people
go
and
put
away.
K
That's
why
I
always
want
them
there
as
little
as
humanly
possible
cuz
deal
with
the
Chicago
Park
District,
especially
with
my
one
at
Ohio,
Street
Beach,
where
it's
on
Ohio
streets
and
it's
an
or
is
on
grand
right
there.
It's
a
nightmare
because
you
have
the
water
rec.
You
can
and
you
can't
be
there,
because
it's
federal
property
and
then
across
ready
the
photo
Lake
points,
our
they're
crazy.
So
we
basically
these
guys,
are
unloading
and
running
brilliant.
B
We
talked
about
noise
briefly
and
about
some
baffles
of
our
interior
space
so
because
this
is
all
non-smoking
inside
right.
Let's
imagine
a
party
a
wedding
and
there
are
30
people
outside
smoking
having
it
having
a
fun
time
at
10
o'clock
or
11
o'clock
on
a
Saturday
night.
How
do
we
stop
that?
How
do
you
deal
with
that?
B
K
Only
way
would
be:
has
someone
from
one
of
our
staff
actually
out
there
monitoring
and
making
sure
that
people
are
keeping
it
down
and
that
being
loud
and
rowdy
and
things
like
that,
they
that's
the
truth,
Lee
the
only
way
to
actually
do
that.
You
designate
an
area
where
they
can
actually
go
and
then
make
sure
that
you
have
someone
there
at
all
times,
especially
for
a
larger
party.
Okay,.
K
K
At
Montrose
we
we
do
500
person,
buyout
parties
and
things
like
that.
So
we've
had
you
know:
crew
Chicago,
craft
beer.
We
had
their
big
thing
there.
Half
the
hour,
half
acre
brewery
had
their
big
tasting
there.
A
couple
years
ago
we
had
we've
had
the
Huey
Lewis
concert,
a
bunch
of
concerts
and
things
on
the
lakefront,
so
high
volume
in
the
catering
and
stuff,
like
that,
okay.
B
K
They're
gonna
stalk,
one
of
the
big
roles
I
have
is
year
now,
if
you're
gonna
go
and
you
need
a
smoke
break
you're,
taking
a
walk
because
there's
nothing
that
anyone
hates
more
in
the
world
than
seeing
a
kitchen
staff
member
outside
having
a
cigarette
on
their
break
or
anything
like
that,
or
at
least
that's
what
I
I
just
do
not
like
to
see.
So,
no
matter
what
I
say:
okay,
it's
your
15
minute
break
and
go
for
a
nice
long
walk
because
I
don't
want
people
seeing
that
it's
bad!
K
K
Is
a
during
during
regular
business
hours?
It
shouldn't
be
too
bad,
but
we'll
wipe
down
a
few
times
as
designate
found
different
parking
spots,
I'm
working,
something
out
with
a
neighbor
and
renting
sometimes
facilities,
because
well
we
offer
a
lot
of
our
places.
We
have
you
know
serious
parking
issues
so,
but
so
I
mean
I've,
made
people
Park
a
mile
away
and
ride
their
bike.
Another.
G
Thing
one
other
thing
that
was
mentioned
to
us
in
parking
was
that
the
water
reclamation
has
a
lot.
That's
like
a
block
and
a
half
away,
they
could
potentially
be
used.
I
believe
is
open
to
the
public.
Now
I
know
we
discussed
it
in
previous
meetings.
So
that's
another
option
there,
a
number
of
okay
options:
yeah,
okay,.
B
G
Well,
we're
really
following
what
the
existing
building
who's
already
on
the
property
line,
so
we
were
just
kind
of
being
consistent.
What
was
what
was
there?
That's
really
what
triggered
these
variances
we
are.
We
are
on
the
property
line
to
the
on
the
north
side
and
east
and
west.
Will
the
I'm
sorry
the
West?
We
are
going
back
a
little
bit
further
I'm,
the
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
the
East,
so
the
ability
is
pretty
much
already
with
you
know
it's
requiring
those
based
on
the
existing
building
right.
B
K
K
Right
here
on
Ashland,
this
is
already
on
the
property
light.
So
this
part
is
that
again,
this
portion
right
here
is
yet
which
truthfully
right
now
is
just
a
grassy
area.
I
would
wear
I
mean
truthfully,
it
would
be
a
nice
beer
garden
area
for
the
outside,
but
that
would
also
be
a
tough
one
to
have
for
outdoor
dining
cos.
One
thing
that
do
know
is
that
they
were
stating
and
then
also
it
would
be,
giving
it
basically
hope.
She's.
B
K
K
Sorry
I've
got
the
dimensions
there,
but
that's
the
entirety
of
a
brew
house
and
we
were
told
that
we're
we're
really
pressing
on
how
much
space
we
actually
are
using
right
now,
they're
like
that,
we
were
told
by
all
the
consultants
that
we've
had
that
this
would
be
the
minimum
amount
of
space
needed
brewing.
On
top
of
that,
we
need
the
space
for
the
for
the
tanks
they're
additional
things
here.
B
Your
hardship
to
me
sounds
like
it's,
because
you're
looking
for
not
only
that
restaurant
brew
pub,
but
also
the
banquet
facility.
So
if
you
omitted
the
banquet
facility,
if
you
omitted
the
cars,
you
would
have
enough
space
to
do
everything
you
needed
to
do
without
needing
the
variances.
Is
that
true.
G
B
Do
have
a
non-conforming
building,
but
your
additions
need
to
be
conforming
or
you
get
a
variance
right,
and
so,
with
the
variance
they
can
be
non-conforming.
That
variance
has
seven
standards.
Two
of
those
standards
are
it's
the
minimum
change
necessary
and
want,
and
the
one
of
the
others
is.
What
is
the
hardship
that
is
keeping
you
from
meeting
that
zoning
requirement,
which
is
why
I
asked
the
question
the.
K
B
K
A
G
R
Can
I
add
something?
Definitely
so
if
they
were
to
put
an
addition
on
the
building
with
a
five
yard
setback
in
the
front,
it
would
be
inconsistent
with
most
of
the
rest
of
the
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
currently
and-
and
it
would
be
such
a
small
addition,
so
to
maintain
a
single
facade,
I
think
is,
is
aesthetically
more
pleasing
and
it's
more
in
keeping
with
the
other
buildings
in
the
neighborhood.
As.
G
B
B
G
Didn't
feel
that
it
would,
we
didn't
feel
we'd
have
a
drawer
defeasible
and
we,
it
was
a
little
got
a
long
process
to
get
here
and
we
we
feel
that
this
is
something
that's
gonna
be
successful.
Restaurants
are
not
easy
and
we
think
we
have
a
good.
We
hope
we
think
we
have
a
good
focus
here
and
we
felt
we
felt.
We
felt
that
we
needed
all
this
to
me
so.
B
G
O
A
K
K
A
I
And
I'll
cut
again
15
19,000
right
across
from
the
new
pub
that's
supposedly
gonna,
be
there
that
alley
is
always
has
hopes
to
see.
You
will
throw
some
gravel
on
it
and
tomorrow
it
will
be
holy.
So
that's
gonna
be
a
significant
issue.
I
am
actually
also
deeply
concerned
about
the
traffic,
that's
kind
of
happened
there
and
as
a
person
who
lives
literally
next
to
the
parking
lot
you
want
to
use,
and
you
said
you
spoke
to
pastor
Dillard
at
first
Church
I.
Think
that's
gonna
be
a
significant
issue.
I
I
mean
you
think:
you're
not
gonna
use
the
alley,
but
to
get
from
one
place
to
the
next.
If
you're
using
the
parking
lot
that
the
Jehovah's
Witness
church
uses,
you
are
going
to
use
the
alley
even
more
because
there's
an
if
you
go
in
the
alley
to
get
to
the
other
section,
so
you
believe
you're
not
gonna,
do
it,
but
you
will
and
I
also
want
to
know
if
there's
another
there's
another
semi
a
banquet
place
already
there.
That's
that
has
this
feastin
imbibe!
So
I,
don't
know!
I
If
you
have
you
guys,
are
you
guys
going
to
be
working
with
them
in
some
way,
because
I
know
they
also
have
similar
type
events
and
the
smoking
issue?
I'm
so
happy
that
you
brought
that
up,
because
it's
extremely
important
and
I
don't
want
to
have
to
constantly
call
the
police
or
call
our
get
up
and
say:
hey
I,
there's
a
serious
issue.
I
There's
people
outside
and
because
you
think
that
you're
not
gonna
get
frat
boys,
you're
gonna
get
humans
and
humans
are
loud
so
and
after
you
drink
you,
you
get
even
louder
and
if
you're
smoking
and
congregating
it's
even
louder
and
that's
going
to
happen.
This
is
a
person
who
works
in
operations.
I
know
that
doesn't
happen.
So
I
just
want
to
ask
you
guys
just
be
mindful
of
how
you're
gonna
do
it
and
also
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
all
the
variants
stuff.
It
will
look
better.
It's
a
better
look!
It's
true!
I
Sadly,
you're
gonna
lose
that
nice
grassy
patch.
We
have
parks
in
Evanston
we're
alright,
but
it
is
it
is.
It
will
be
aesthetically
pleasing
unfortunate
that
this
is
gonna,
be
a
big
little
thing,
but
make
it
pretty
if
you're
gonna
do
it,
but
seriously
can
consider
how
you're
gonna
do
the
traffic
and,
if
you're,
having
80
people
in
a
restaurant,
you
think
you're
gonna
have
29
cards,
I'll,
be
watching.
A
S
Line
Weber
when
we
began
we've
developed
six
properties
in
three
on
Ashland
three
on
Simpson,
when
we
began
working
in
the
neighborhood
in
1996
22
years
ago,
there
were
five
active
businesses
in
the
neighborhood,
with
our
efforts
and
development,
as
well
as
an
T
space
and
the
Robinson
family.
There
are
now
well
over
75
businesses
and
residences
in
the
neighborhood.
The
major
component
of
the
spaces
I
live
work
to
live
only
work
only
or
do
both.
With
the
exception
of
the
B
strip
on
Simpson
Street.
S
We
have
been
waiting
22
years
for
this
type
of
business.
To
come.
We
designed
into
our
the
old
Fannie's
building
a
restaurant
in
hopes
of
bringing
in
a
restaurant
that
could
serve
breakfast
lunch,
be
a
meeting
spot
for
the
businesses
and
the
people
in
the
neighborhood
and
it
and
met
with
little
success
there.
S
So
this
type
of
facility
is
something
that
we've
been
waiting
for.
This
type
of
facility
will
make
a
huge
difference
to
what
is
now
Evanston's
Arts
District,
but
it
does
provide
that
opportunity
for
people
to
take
somebody
a
client
to
lunch,
to
go
out
with
coworkers
afterwards
to
go
there
and
get
lunch.
We
don't
have
that,
though
we
have
in
the
1601
building
where
all
the
production
is
they
have
over
75
employees
in
that
building
and
no
place
to
go.
S
A
F
G
Trying
to
think
if
I
could
respond
to
a
couple
of
the
comments
on
that
we
heard
about
with
as
far
as
being
a
good
neighbor
and
we
we've
dealt
with
this
and
I
did
not
believe
that
we
have
move
apartments
across
the
street
and
we've
had
and
we've
had
some
noise
issues
and
when
we
have
those
issues
we
figure
out
how
to
make
it
right,
because
we
would
definitely
be
good.
Neighbor,
I
really
don't
think
we're
to
have
traffic
in
that
alley
very
very
little
because
our
parking
lot
doesn't
go
through.
G
So
how
would
you
use
the
alley
if
someone's
in
the
front,
they
have
to
go
all
the
way
around
you
I,
don't
know
why
would
they
would
use
the
allottee?
Because
none
of
the
cars
in
our
lot
can
go
that
way?
I
can
get
there.
So
I,
don't
think,
don't
think
that's
an
issue
either,
but
I
guess
that's
it.
Thanks.
K
A
A
A
Those
three
okay,
so
all
right,
yes
and
so
brewpub
is
a
new
definition
of
which
we
would
be
that's
true
right.
Are
we
we're
defining
the
language
for
what
a
brewpub
is?
That
is
correct,
okay
and
then
the
third
thing
is:
is
that
we're
being
requested
to
combine
the
definition
of
a
craft
brewery
and
they
craft
axillary
micro,
brewery.
N
A
A
H
A
L
Go
ahead,
yeah
I
think
the
I
think
the
only
like
the
only
concerning
issue
is
the
is
allowing
now
restaurants
in
what's
otherwise
a
manufacturing
district.
I.
Think
for
you
know
personally,
for
for
this
proposal
and
this
property
I
I
think
it's
a
I
think
it's
a
good
fit
I
liked
hearing
how
other
businesses
that
operate
in
the
area
we're
going
to
be
able
to
benefit
from
having
this
this
operation
in
the
neighborhood.
L
You
know
I
guess
I'm
the
counterpoint
to
that
is
that
ultimately
there
aren't
there
isn't
really
a
lot
of
area
that's
covered
by
these
manufacturing
districts,
where
it's,
where
you
know
it
could
have
an
an
adverse
effect
to
to
what
was
you
know
set
aside
as
manufacturing
districts,
but
I.
You
know
just
as
a
comment.
That's
that's
my
my
biggest
concern
but
I.
Think
the
applicant
with
respect
to
this
proposal
has
has
overcome
the
burdens
so.
A
So
we're
not
per
se
concerned
about
this
application.
We're
writing
the
code
that
would
be
applicable
from
here
forward
to
any
any
instance.
So
so
so
I
think
your
point
is
valid,
is:
is
it
a
benefit
to
have
restaurants
within
a
manufacturing,
district,
district
or
or
or
what?
What
I
found
odd
was
it's?
It's
simply
the
the
brew
pub
with
the
the
auxiliary
restaurant
and
not
restaurants.
You
know
so
restaurants
are
still
not
permitted
by
right
within
that
area.
Mm-Hmm
and
you
know,
is
it
beneficial
or
is
it
not
I
think
mr.
L
Mean
I
would
I
was
not
you
know,
obviously
here
for
when
the
when
these
districts
were
were
discussed
and
and
created,
but
I.
Imagine
that
one
would
want
to
keep
restaurants
and
other
forms
of
I.
Guess
of
retail,
and
you
know
foot
traffic,
retail,
commercial
foot
traffic
from
manufacturing
areas,
because
you
want
to
have
that
that
type
of
manufacturing
that
the
employee
base
for
other
types
of
businesses.
C
It
I
districts
are
industrial
districts,
typically
a
little
heavier
districts,
although
there
are
properties
within
those
I
districts
that
do
also
have
a
mix
of
uses
that
the
building
where
temperance
is
located
on
Dempster
is
a
good
example
of
that
or
there's
both
industrial
businesses
and
then
a
whole
range
of
other
types
of
businesses.
The
M
districts
that
we're
discussing
here
in
the
MXC
where
this
property
is
located
are
transitional
manufacturing
districts.
So
that's
where
they're
intended
to
have
that
mix
of
uses.
C
The
MXC
reading
from
the
zoning
ordinance
is
intended
to
address
those
distinctive
areas
in
Evanston
or
manufacturing
industrial
use
of
coexisted
with
residential
uses
in
a
manner
in
which
neither
have
been
affected
adversely
you
know,
corporate
use
is
currently
located
in
the
area
also
permitting
those
uses
normally
associated
manufacturing
industrial
operations
and
and
we're
talking
about
all
the
districts
throughout
the
city.
This
happens
to
be
the
the
largest
area
of
that
mxc
district
within
the
city,
and
there
are
a
wide
variety
of
uses.
C
C
A
So
so
I
think
the
so
it
seems
to
me
the
question
is:
is:
is
it
beneficial
to
allow
this
kind
of
food
service
within
this
mixed
industrial
use
and
to
I?
You
know
I'm
wondering
to
two
things:
is
it
is
it
restrictive
to
just
allow
to
allow
a
brewpub
with
it
or
or
is
it
with
the
with
the
type
one
as
an
accessory
use,
or
should
should
this
area
actually
be
allowed
to
have
restaurants
type
one
and
brew,
pubs
and
I?
A
Think
the
other
question
that
is
before
us
is:
it's
being
requested
to
be
a
permitted
use
outright?
If
there
was
some
control
requests
required,
then
we
could
make
it
a
special
use
and
allow
these
guys
to
go
ahead
and
and
monitor
the
gates
of
how
how
that
area
was
used.
So
you
know
any
thoughts
about.
O
I
think
that
it's
interesting
that
it's
allowed
and
the
industrial
uses,
but
it's
not
allowed
in
this
mixed-use,
so
I
think
the
question
is:
is
the
transition
area?
It's
not
allowed
there
because
we've
got
some
residences
and
that
the
industrial
area
it
doesn't
have
residential
I
mean
seems
like
if
you're
allowing
it
in
industrial.
Then
it
that's.
Students,
I,
know
to.
L
A
So
so
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
is
controversial
about
restaurants
or
brew.
Pubs
is
I.
Think
the
hours
of
operation
was
one
of
the
things
because
it
is
coexisting
with
residential
and
other
other.
Where
manufacturing
is
usually,
you
know
on
a
on
a
daily.
You
know
people
go
home
right,
so
so
that
that
is
one
question
is
the
extended.
If
we
allow
it,
then
it
would
have
extended
hours
right.
If
we
let
it
a
permitted
use,
then
is
that
so
for
staff?
A
C
B
A
Let
me
be
really
clear
about
right
exactly,
but
but
that
is
a
what
that
is
a
ability
to
put
a
control
with
on
it,
if
that's
a
concern,
so
so
that
is,
let's
see
so
the
other
other
questions
that
we
have
we're
kind
of
dividing
this
up
between
between
the
permitted
use
and
then
the
definitions.
Is
there
any
thoughts
about
the
combining
of
the
two
two
types
of
the
the
brewpub
and
the
and
the
micro-distillery
I.
A
A
That's
not
not
really
clear
yeah,
so
so,
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
become
so
the
definition
of
the
micro,
the
I
think
also
the
micro
distillery
is
defined
in
other
locations
and
regulated,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
why
I
think
I
remember
it
being
separated
from
it's
part
of
the
licensure
requirements?
Have
you
looked
into
that
staff
at
all?
It.
C
Yeah
there
are
it's
a
good
question:
there
are
regulations
in
both
the
city
liquor
code
that
pertains
to
those
types
of
restrictions,
as
well
as
within
the
state
of
in
control
act.
At
one
time
the
zoning
ordinance
did
reference
specifically
the
number
of
and
I
forget
if
it
was
barrels
or
gallons.
At
this
point,
we're
recommending
just
to
be
in
compliance
with
applicable
local
and
state
and
federal
regulations,
because
those
those
numbers
do
move
around
at
the
state
level
or
have
the
possibility
to
move
around
the
state
level.
So.
A
A
C
It's
true
and
we're
looking
at
different
definitions
across
other
Mis
polities.
There
is
slightly
different
nomenclature
in
different
areas
as
far
as
craft
or
micro.
We
thought
this
was
a
kind
of
a
more
generic
label
that
encompassed
all
those
things,
but
they
still
need
a
license
from
the
state
and
still
need
a
license
from
the
cities
of
liquor
licensing
for
those,
and
they
would
have
to
license
into
those
specific
categories
durable
to
those
okay.
A
So
but
they
would
be
licensed
as
some
other
name
is
there
I
I,
guess
I'm
asking?
Is
there
a
way
to
include
in
the
definition
that
that
a
craft
alcohol
production
facility
is
either
a
craft,
a
brewery
or
craft
distilled?
You
know,
for
the
purposes
of
zoning,
either
a
craft
brewery
or
craft
distillery
micro
distillery
is
defined
elsewhere.
You
know
and
just
tie
that
in
somehow
in
the
wording
of
the
definition,
or
is
that
not
needed
I.
A
Okay,
so
then
the
last
thing
we're
being
asked
I
believe,
is
the
definition
of
a
brewpub
of
which
commissioner
isaac
had
a
issue
with
the
word
in
hand,
capped
which,
which
I
would
which
I
would
I
would
say.
You
know
for
consumption,
on-site
or
off-site
in
in
being
premises,
sealed
containers
or
or
something
we're
not
or
just
well.
Just
sealed
containers
could
be
could
be.
You
know,
cants
typical
can,
but
you
know
premises.
C
C
A
See
exactly
and
we're
not
trying
to
limit
it
to
and
capped
as
technology
changes
and
standards
change
to
make
it
a
little
more
Universal
okay.
So
so
so
these
three
things
I
guess
we
should
handle
them
as
three
separate
motions.
Would
you
agree
three
separate
deliberations
or
or
to
look
for
or
altogether
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
should
address
them
with
these
standards
for
amendments
and
then
go
for
a
proposal.
C
A
N
A
F
A
A
Great
okay,
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
these
in
in
respect
to
the
standards
for
amendments,
which
briefly
stated,
would
be
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan
has
adopted
and
amended
from
time
to
time
by
sital
City
Council.
So
so
here's
the
is
the
the.
F
A
F
A
N
L
C
A
L
Given
that
the
staff
recommendation
was
to
create
a
create
the
brew
pub
in
this
area
in
the
manufacturing
area
as
a
permitted
use,
if
we
are
recommending
that
the
that
a
brew
pub
in
general
be
a
special
use,
is
that
going
to
require
the
applicant
that's
here
tonight
to
have
to
come
back
and
apply
for
a
special
use
of
the
especially
use
in
that
you
know
for
that
facility?
It's.
C
An
excellent
question,
commissioner:
Isaac
we've
noticed
this
hearing
to
be
especially
used
for
both
uses,
the
the
brew
pub,
as
well
as
the
banquet
hall
in
case
that
event
came
up
and
the
applicants
application
was
actually
to
make
a
brew
pub,
either
permitted
or
special
use
in
this
district,
so
we're
covered
whichever
way
the
Planning
Commission
recommends.
Thank
you.
M
A
O
O
B
R
B
J
Q
Everybody
will
tell
you
that
it
will
continue
to
be
an
issue,
so
I
would
prefer
that
you
guys
have
really
either
contractual
agreements
or
whatever
other
return,
investment
for
the
for
the
time
it
may
even
go
with
the
deed
of
the
property,
because
you
bought
the
property,
but
you
have
to
resolve
this.
We
are
not
happy
when
we
leave
things
to
chance,
maybe
maybe
not
so.
This
is
one
serious
issue.
Q
The
other
thing
I
am
supporting
your
special
use
and
the
variances,
because,
like
some
people
in
the
room,
we
worked
for
this
area
to
develop
it,
and
we
know
what
this
will
bring
to
the
neighborhood
and
really
there
was
no
restaurant
and
we
we
couldn't
make
one
in
this
area
and
it
was
badly
needed
both
the
start
of
this
areas
of
business
development
and
end
now,
so
you
will
probably
fill
the
gap.
So
that's.
Q
Why
I'm
a
kind
of
a
tolerant
to
your
your
request
for
the
both
the
special
use
and
the
variances,
because
I
believe
your
financial
model
will
not
survive
without
the
variance
so
I'm
a
kind
of
okay
with
that
I
will
afford.
One
note
just
for
you:
if
we
can
go
to
the
floor
plan,
can
we
so
the
thing
that
we
worked
on
this
street
is
to
have
storefronts
the
fact
that
you
are
putting
toilets
on
the
storefront
I?
Q
Don't
like
that's
a
personal
opinion,
but
we
wanted
this
city
to
be
beautiful
and
that's
why
we
want
to
develop
it
with
the
storefronts
I.
Don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
the
toilets
on
the
street,
you
should
work
with
your
architect,
make
a
better
layout
for
that
year-old
benefit
of
that.
So
that's
my
position.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
R
Sure
so
that
the
Park
District
in
the
city
of
Evanston
least
land
from
the
MW
Rd
in
order
to
put
in
a
parking
lot
that
would
serve
Twiggs
Park,
the
start
of
the
bicycle
path
and
the
emerging
business
district
in
the
arts,
district
and
and
typically
during
regular
business
hours.
Since
so
many
new
businesses
have
moved
to
the
area.
That
lot
is
very
full.
It
is
also
used,
I
have
to
say
by
Sudz
car
wash
and
the
automobile
secondhand
automobile
store
across
the
street.
R
R
Pretty
much
so
I
would
imagine
that
during
business
hours,
that
lot
will
be
full
and
unavailable
for
use
by
this
brewpub,
but
that
after
business
hours,
that
lot
would
become
much
more
available
for
use.
It
typically
is
empty
because
the
car
businesses
can't
use
it
because
they
can't
park
overnight.
So
when
they
close
shop
to
go
home,
they
have
to
move
all
of
the
cars
out
of
the
lot.
There's
no
overnight
parking.
So
all
of
the
loft
dwellers-
and
you
know
other
businesses-
move
their
cars
out
of
the
lot
as
well.
What
does.
R
R
that
would
would
help
to
serve
overflow
for
business
and-
and
there
are
once
again
if
they
can
make
arrangements
with
the
churches
in
the
neighborhood.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
I
know
that
another
business
in
the
neighborhood
had
parking
issues
and
made
arrangements
with
family
focus
to
use
their
parking
lot
because
they
have
daytime
activities.
So
there
there
is
availability
in
the
neighborhood.
If,
if
people
make
arrangements
but
the
other
businesses
and
as.
J
B
J
J
O
P
D
I
agree
that
this
project
is
needed
back
here,
I
understand
that
it
is
a
large
project
that
will
bring
a
lot
of
people
to
this
part
of
the
community,
people
that
have
not
been
there
previously
and
so
I
want
to
say
to
the
people
that
proposed
this
to
police
work
closely
with
the
community.
It's
going
to
be
a
huge
sea
change,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
there
being
a
restaurant
back
there.
It's
a
great
idea,
I
support
both
the
variances
and
especially,
is
great.
B
Thank
you
so
much
so
in
general.
I
agree
with
what
everyone
has
said.
I
would
like
to
see
a
couple
of
conditions
put
on
this
recommendation.
A
couple
of
good
suggestions
to
City
Council,
perhaps
for
these
special
uses,
I
do
agree
that
we
should
have
a
formal
agreement
for
parking.
We
do
need
to
talk
about
ours
right
so
I
think
for
regular
hours,
I
think
11:00
a.m.
to
10:00
p.m.
Sunday
through
Thursday
and
let
them
go
to
1:00
p.m.
B
B
This
will
have
more
noise
than
that
and
we'd
like
to
be
good
neighbors
as
well,
so
we'd
like
to
encourage
them
by
having
it
be
a
requirement
also,
their
employees
need
to
park
off-site
right
and
not
on
the
street
and
I
do
think
the
alley
maintenance
is
a
key
component.
I
think
that
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
traffic
down
there
and
the
day
the
garbage
truck
is
gonna,
be
a
killer.
B
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
and
then
the
whole
idea
of
the
smoking
area
again
with
a
banquet
and
30
people
out
there,
smoking
I
think
that's
that
has
the
potential
to
be
a
real
neighborhood
irritant
and
so
I
think
that,
having
that
be
as
a
condition
would
be
helpful,
I
also
love
Carol's
idea
about
the
to
get
moving
the
toilets
off
the
street.
That
is
actually
key,
because
that
is
a
key
component
of
making
our
streets
lively,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
we
are.
B
R
J
B
What
what
I'm
hearing
and
what
my
sense
is,
is
that
right
now,
Hansen
isn't
causing
problems
with
the
alley.
Hansen's
use
of
the
alley
isn't
causing
problems
and
I
can't
ask
you
because
we've
closed
the
record.
So
that's
what
there
was
no
testimony
that
Hansen
is
causing
the
problems
or
anybody
else
on
that.
So
the
issue
yeah
there.
B
F
B
That's
fine
exactly
all
right,
so
we
are
in
agreement.
There
are
three
sets
of
standards:
I
get
to
go
through
you
ready
we're
gonna
go
through.
There
are
nine
standards
for
a
special
use
for
a
brewpub
in
an
MXC
district,
so
one
it
is
one
of
the
special
uses
is
listed
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
It
is
now
so
that's
the
end.
It's
been
met,
number
two.
It
is
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time.
B
The
comprehensive
plan
is
set
up
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment,
and
if
this
is
not
the
definition
of
growth
and
redevelopment
I,
don't
know
what
is
so.
I
think
that
this
absolutely
falls
within
that
that
that
requirement
that
standard.
So
that
has
been
met
number
three.
It
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood.
Now
we've
gone
ahead
and
proved
distance.
B
Other
special
uses
in
the
neighborhood
that
when
this
is
combined,
it
could
have
the
potential
to
cause
a
negative
impact.
I
think
that
when
we
address
things
like
parking
specifically
by
having
those
formal
agreements,
I
think
we
can
ameliorate
those
and
then
we
won't
see
that
negative
cumulative
effect.
So
as
long
as
those
formal
agreements
are
in
place,
then
there
won't
be
that
negative
cumulative
effect.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
the
property
in
the
neighborhood.
B
There's
been
testimony,
certainly
from
owners
in
the
neighborhood
that
this
is
the
kind
of
facility
that
the
neighborhood
has
long
dreamed
of
had
tried
and
failed
at
it,
and
so
that
this
will
actually
add
value
to
the
neighborhood,
both
from
a
use
perspective
as
well
as
property
value.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
B
It
is
currently
accessible
via
regular
roads
and
alleys,
and
there
is
garbage
pickup
which
isn't
relevant
for
a
restaurant,
but
I
do
believe
that
there
are
adequate
services
in
the
city
of
Evanston
to
to
meet
the
needs
of
this
property.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
B
Now,
certainly
there
will
be
some
more
traffic
in
the
neighborhood,
but
again
I
think
that,
with
some
of
the
things
that
that
the
applicant
has
discussed
specifically
the
valet
parking
and
really
paying
attention
to
where
you're
parking
and
coordinating
that
with
other
needs
in
the
neighborhood,
specifically
the
the
football
players
and
kitty-corner
from
there
I
think
that
you
can
deal
with
the
problem
so
again
with
you
dealing
with
the
problem.
I
think
that
that
standard
can
be
met.
Number
seven
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources.
B
Now
this
doesn't
apply
because
this
is
sort
of
a
an
older
building
that
has
no
true
architectural
significance
to
it.
But
I
would
like
to
comment
here
that,
if
you
can
make
it
architectural
II
significant
by
having
that
invigorated
elevation,
where
you
have
a
frontage
showing
people
having
a
good
time
and
spending
their
money
in
Evanston,
that
will
certainly
be
a
benefit.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features
which
does
not
apply
and
number
nine.
B
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
and
which
it
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances.
Now,
in
retrospect,
I
would
say
the
same
things
about
the
special
uses
of
brewpub
as
I
would
about
the
banquet
hall.
So
can
I
use
all
those
same
arguments
for
the
same
thing?
Fantastic,
so
we
just
to
do
in
one.
So
can
I
have
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
with
a
whole
bunch
of
conditions
for
those
special
uses.
Please
you
want
them.
I
wrote.
J
B
J
What
are
we
asking
in
terms
of
noise
abatement
that
noise
abatement
be
considered
if
and
materials
be
considered
in
in
your
additions,
so
that
you
no
noise,
does
not
carry
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
that
the
alley?
How
do
we
want
a
word?
The
alley
I
think
you
had
some
suggested
language,
Marybeth
I,
just.
B
J
D
F
B
B
There
are
seven
standards
for
a
major
variation
and
number
one
is
that
the
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
youths
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
neighbor
of
adjoining
properties.
We've
heard
testimony
that
this
project
will
in
fact
increase
the
the
enjoyment
of
adjoining
properties
since
they'll
have
a
place
to
go
for
a
lunch,
also
that
if
they,
if
they
develop
this
property
with
some
of
the
requirements
that
we've
put
into
these
special
uses,
I
think
that
they
can
limit
the
any
substantial
adverse
impact
on
their
neighbors.
B
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
two:
the
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
which
is
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment
and
strengthen
our
economic
base,
and
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three,
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
After
a
long
time,
we
finally
got
it
out
that
there
is
a
bowstring
truss
roof
which
prohibits
the
additions.
From
going
on
to
the
second
floor,
and
in
Evanston
we
love
our
bowstring
bowstring
cross
roofs.
B
So
that
is
that,
with
that,
we
do
have
a
standard
that
is
met.
Number
four:
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty,
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience
at
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
were
to
be
carried
out.
If
I
remember
correctly,
we've
heard
some
commentary
from
board
members
that
other
restaurants
have
tried
in
the
area
and
have
failed
and
that
the
the
banquet
component
is
a
vital
and
critical
part
of
this.
In
order
to
keep
this
business
afloat.
B
In
order
to
get
that
that
banquet
space,
the
space
needs
to
grow
to
accommodate
some
of
those
other
uses
that
normally
would
have
fit
inside
the
building.
So
I
do
believe
that
there
actually
is
a
hardship
that
is
unique
to
this
property.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
or
there's
a
public
benefit,
clearly
you're
trying
to
make
money
so
you're
trying
to
extract
some
additional
income.
We
applaud
that.
B
We
want
you
to
be
successful,
but
we
do
want
the
public
benefit
and
that
public
benefit
is
that
you
liven
up
the
street
and
that
you
bring
people
to
that
neighborhood
and
you
give
them
a
place
to
spend
their
money
and
spend
time
in
Evanston,
and
so
that
is
the
the
benefit
that
I
see.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship,
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
B
The
property
was
plaited
many
years
ago
long
before
the
current
owners
bought
the
property
and
the
building
was
built
that
in
probably
that
same
time
frame,
so
that
standard
has
certainly
been
met
and
number
seven.
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
B
Again,
this
goes
back
to
the
the
business
model
and
that
the
model
only
works
with
a
banquet
component,
which
then
requires
some
of
those
other
additional
spaces
which
are
being
limited
to
the
overall
dimensions
of
the
of
half
of
the
existing
buildings.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
Matt.
Just
so
can
I
have
a
motion.