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It's
been
a
while,
so
tonight
we're
going
to
going
to
the
the
process
will
be
will
have
an
introduction
by
by
staff.
Then
there
will
be
a
chance
for
the
petitioner
to
present
their
case.
At
that
time.
A
The
the
commissioners
can
ask
questions
of
the
petitioner.
Then
we
would
open
up
the
floor
to
questions
from
the
public.
People
who
are
speaking
from
the
public
are
limited
to
two
minutes
and,
and
the
first
portion
will
be
questions
of
the
of
the
petitioner.
So
there'll
be
time
later
on
for
statements,
if
you
wish
to
give
statements,
and
after
after
the
questions,
will
will
close
the
close
the
hearing
and
go
into
deliberations.
A
Do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
very
good?
Thank
you
all
right
and
then,
when
you
come
to
the
podium
to
test
them
to
testify
or
make
ask
questions,
come
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
speak
in
speak
only
at
the
podium
into
the
mic.
So
we
have
a
permanent
record
all
right.
Thank
you!
Okay!
Now,
let's
do
it
great.
D
The
items
and
relief
sought
by
the
applicant
and
then
go
over
the
staff
recommendation
and
the
standards
and
the
applicant
will
have
a
presentation
with
with
more
details
about
the
project
design,
so
1714
to
1720
Chicago
Avenue.
The
applicant
is
requesting
both
a
map
amendment
from
the
current
zoning
district,
which
is
our
six
general
residential
to
the
d3
downtown
core
development
district
and
also
a
planned
development.
D
The
property
is
currently
about
26,000
750
square
feet
about
six
tenths
of
an
acre.
The
applicant
is
also
proposing
to
vacate
a
portion
of
the
the
city
alley
so
with
that
vacation
it
would
increase
the
size
of
the
property
to
just
over
27,000
square
feet.
What's
proposed
is
a
13
story,
building
with
four-story
base
of
parking
and
9
storeys
of
office.
Above
the
office
is
approximately
one
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
gross
square
feet
as
part
of
the
proposal.
112
parking
spaces
are
proposed.
D
22
of
those
are
compact
or
spaces
that
do
not
otherwise
meet
the
in
half
by
18
foot
standard
size
stall
by
city
code
requirements.
213
spaces
would
be
required
for
the
office
portion
of
the
building.
Additionally,
the
the
parcel
is
currently
used
for
a
library
parking
lot
and
part
of
the
purchase.
Sale
agreement
was
to
replace
the
parking
spaces
on
that
lot,
which
would
be
an
additional
74
spaces
required
for
that
replacement
building
height
is
167
feet
to
the
roof.
D
The
zoning
ordinance
allows
for
the
exclusion
of
up
to
four
levels
of
parking
up
to
forty
feet
so
that
that
brings
it
to
127
feet.
For
the
zoning
height
of
the
building
on
the
screen
is
a
layout
of
the
first
floor
to
the
right
of
the
screen.
The
lobby
is
Chicago
Avenue,
so
the
front
of
the
building
has
a
lobby
in
the
middle
bike,
room
on
the
lower
portion
or
southern
portion
of
the
front
facade
and
parking
areas
on
the
front
portion
on
the
northern
end
of
the
facade.
D
D
There
is
the
current
property
line,
so
that
is
where
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
vacate
a
portion
of
city
alley
to
extend
the
building
over
that
right-of-way
and
that's
where
the
loading
would
occur
with
trucks
and
vehicles
loading
vehicles
entering
from
the
south
into
that
loading
bay,
that's
oriented
in
the
north-south
direction,
whereas
vehicles
for
the
parking
would
enter
facing
east
from
the
alley.
The
existing
north-south
alley
that
runs
through
the
block
from
church
to
Clark
on
the
screen
of
the
development
allowances
that
are
being
sought.
D
This
table
shows
you
what
the
base
zoning
allows
if
it
were
to
be
rezone
to
the
d3
district,
so
building
height
85
feet
would
be
allowed
site.
Development
allowance
of
up
to
another
85
feet
can
be
requested,
so
the
proposed
zoning
falls
within
that
site.
Development
allowance
that's
being
sought
as
well
as
the
FA.
Our
4.5
is
allowed
with
the
base
zoning
site
development
allowance
of
up
to
an
additional
3.5,
f
AR,
so
total
of
8
could
be
requested.
5.0
is
proposed,
that's
also
within
the
site.
Developments
that
may
be
requested.
D
So
with
that
there's
no
supermajority
vote
that
would
be
required
at
City
Council,
because
they're
not
proposing
to
exceed
the
maximum
site
development.
Allow
insist
there
additionally,
you'll
see
the
the
number
of
parking
spaces
required.
As
mentioned
213.
The
front
properties
line
setback,
which
is
the
block
average
of
31
point
4
feet,
which
would
be
required
where
25
feet
is
proposed
side
setbacks.
15
feet
are
required
on
both
the
north
and
south
property
lines.
5
feet
are
proposed
to
both
of
those
and
a
canopy
yard
obstruction.
3.1
feet
is
allowed,
which
would
be
10.
D
D
Public
benefits
won't
go
through
them
all
in
detail,
they're
included
in
a
staff
report,
but
they
include
a
partnership
with
e
th
s
for
students,
including
a
bike
room
in
the
building
that
would
be
available
to
the
the
neighboring
nonprofit
organizations
having
conduit
run
for
potential
future
electric
vehicle
parking,
including
the
parking
spaces
replacing
some
of
the
parking
spaces
are
there
with
covered
parking
spaces
opposed
to
the
current
open
parking
spaces,
public
access
for
additional
parking,
the
the
full
amount
of
parking
spaces
after
5:00
p.m.
on
weekdays
and
all
hours
on
weekends.
D
This
project
has
been
reviewed
by
the
design
and
project
review
committee.
It's
a
staff
committee
staff,
reviewed
this
project
and
is
recommending
denial.
Should
the
plan
plan
commission
vote
to
recommend
approval,
we've
included
a
number
of
suggested
conditions
of
approval
that
would
be
included
in
an
ordinance
that
would
go
forward
to
City
Council
if
the
city
council
did
approve
it.
D
Public
art
fund,
including
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
within
the
development,
currently
bird
following
measures
and
some
of
those
are
detailed
installation
of
parking,
signage
and
detection
system
for
offsite
parking
within
the
city's
Church
Street
library
parking
garages.
That
would
show
what
the
the
real-time
availability
is
for
those
replacement
and
paying
for
pay
stations
for
parking
on
Chicago
Avenue
and
entering
lease
agreement
for
parking
spaces.
That
would
make
up
the
deficiency
and
code
requirements
within
city
parking
garages.
D
Additionally,
the
construction
management
plan
and
other
standard
conditions
that
are
including
planned
developments,
this
development,
with
seeking
both
a
planned
development
and
a
map,
amendment
is
subject
to
standards
and
several
sections
of
the
city,
zoning
ordinance.
Those
are
shown
on
the
screen
here
stands
for
amendments
for
special
uses
for
planned
developments
and
then
standards
and
guidelines
for
claim
developments
within
the
d3
district.
If
the
property
were
to
be
rezone
to
the
d3
district,
we
also
have
those
standards
in
detail.
As
the
Commission
gets
to
deliberations,
we
could
go
into
those
in
further
detail.
F
Thank
you,
Scott
and
so
I
could
just
scroll
with
the
right
button
should
do
try
boom
hi.
My
name
is
Paul
Janaki
with
Paul
Janicki
Architects
in
Evanston.
Our
team
here
tonight
is
Greg
state
with
Chicago
Avenue
partners,
our
developer
and
des
Volvo's,
with
Halliburton
roots,
kevin
Boyer,
with
Auburn
root
and
Steve
Corcoran
who's.
Our
a
traffic
engineer
so
just
like
to
start
out
and
I'll
try
to
keep
the
shore
as
possible.
F
We're
responding
to
an
RFP
by
the
city
of
Evanston
to
sell
their
property
at
the
library
parking
lot
for
redevelopment
their
own
RP
says.
The
zoning
change
will
be
necessary
that
the
requirements
for
this
site
should
be
in
a
for-profit
office
building
which
we
are
doing,
a
contextual
development
which
we
hope
we
are
doing
and
a
high-quality
design
which
will
leave
that
to
you.
Several
developers
submit
proposals,
and
this
is
sort
of
wide.
The
gestation
period
of
this
project
has
gone
on
further.
Other
proposals
were
made
and
rejected
by
the
community
at
award
meetings.
F
We
also
reached
out
to
our
numerous
discussions
with
Frances
Willard
organization,
the
woman's
called
of
Evanston
and
last
year.
The
woman's
call
of
Evanston
actually
came
here
to
support
us
I,
don't
think
that's
the
case
anymore.
The
site
consists
of
two
Lots.
As
you
know,
it's
see
if
I
can
get
to
these
slides
I'll
try
to
get
to
them
faster
or.
F
You
know
the
context:
did
you
want
to
see
some
of
these
some
of
the
buildings
we
looked
at?
You
know
downtown
that
we
really
admire
and
think
of
a
high
quality
architecture
of
the
Marshall
Field's
building,
Carlsen,
building
or
inton
the
library
Plaza
building,
here's
our
site
on
Chicago
Avenue,
and
here
is
the
zoning
map,
as
you
see
that
our
site
is
an
hour
and
hour
six,
but
will
petitioning
to
be
in
d3.
F
This
is
a
an
aerial
drawing
showing
buildings.
There
are
over
nine
stories
in
the
general
vicinity
and
our
site
is
the
highlighted
blue
portion
in
the
middle
of
that
this
is
an
aerial
again
of
downtown
without
our
building
in
the
parking
lot
without
development,
and
this
is
a
rendering
with
that
building
place
there
again.
This
is
a
different
view
taken
from
the
southwest
without
our
building
and
then
with
the
building
installed.
F
So
one
of
the
major
components
we
has
this
fire
department
came
out
to
actually
drive
a
truck
through
the
alley
to
see
how
it
would
operate
in
the
alley
with
the
the
footprint
of
the
building.
That
was
actually
at
that
time
all
the
way
out
to
the
far
lot
line
to
the
west,
with
no
setback
and
with
the
curb
cut
they
said
that
was
fine.
F
F
So
let
me
get
down
to
our
deck.
We
also
determined
to
get
a
fishing
lowing
dock
and
and
the
aesthetics
of
the
building
not
being
a
triangular
end.
We
really
wanted
to
rectangular
eyes
the
back
of
the
building
just
so
it
would
still
be
a
handsome.
You
know
edifice
on
the
alley.
We
thought
that
was
just
as
important
as
being
handsome
on
the
front
end,
so
we
are
asking
for
a
321
square
foot
vacation
of
the
alley.
F
F
So,
as
you
see
in
the
studies
of
the
parking
was
determined
that
there
was
a
minimal
parking
load
experienced
during
the
daytime
hours.
This
is
about
the
surface
parking
lot
to
the
library.
We
did
studies
for
a
number
of
cars
on
three
different
days
and
we
found
out
there
was,
you
know,
a
lot
of
empty
spaces
in
the
surface
lot
and
an
additional
empty
spaces
in
the
the
basement
parking
lot
of
the
library.
F
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
as
far
as
this
development
was
there
is
replacing
the
74
spaces,
and
now
that
we
have
112
74
spaces,
there
need
to
be
used
for
the
library
or
in
the
evenings
on
weekends.
That
is
when
we
find
out
that's
when
the
load
is
for
that
lot
and
now
there
will
be
a
hundred
and
twelve
spaces
that
will
be
devoted
entirely
to
the
public
and
for
library,
users
after
hours
and
on
weekends.
F
We
also
you
know
we
looked
at
very
hard
at
how
to
how
to
park
and
it's
a
really
difficult
site
and
and
in
order
to
get
a
building
core
an
elevator
core
and
a
double
loaded
parking
structure.
It.
The
building,
came
to
almost
exactly
to
the
point
where
we
would
have
5
foot
setbacks
on
either
side
and
that's
what
really
drove
the
the
the
width
of
the
building.
Just
if
you
wonder
why
we
got
to
that
point.
F
The
first
floor,
as
we
mentioned,
has
a
mechanical
utility
equipment
and
we
have
the
bike
room,
of
course,
which
holds
50
bikes.
We
go
to
a
typical
floor
plan,
as
you
can
see
here.
There
are
terraces
landscape
terraces
on
the
north
and
south
at
the
first
office
level,
and
those
are
available
to
everybody
in
the
bill.
F
Let's
get
past
these
from
the
beginning,
our
goal
is
to
build
a
base
that
would
be
they'll
incorporate
our
car
parking
garage,
of
course,
but
relate
to
the
scale
in
the
fenestration
and
the
materials
of
our
neighbors,
we're
matching
the
brick
and
storm
the
Mayo
design,
Women's
Club.
We
also
want
to
create
a
contemporary
version
of
the
front
porch
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
the
other
porches
on
the
houses
directly
north.
F
This
is
a
view
looking
north
looking
south
lawn
Chicago
Avenue,
and
these
are
the
elevations
which
I'm
sure
you've
probably
already
seen,
but
tell
me
you
slow
down.
If
you
want
me
to
this
is
a
rendering
that
we
provide
to
explain
better,
explain
how
the
alley
works.
There's
a
new
crosswalk,
there's
no
crosswalk!
Now
we
created
crosswalk
with
signage.
F
You,
you
exit
the
garage
here
where
you
see
the
people
with
stroller,
and
and
now
you
have
a
place
to
go
across.
There's
a
new
stop
sign
that
we're
proposing
at
the
north
end
here
so
that
you
have
kind
of
a
place
for
people
to
stop
and
pause
so
that
there's
a
safety
factor
there
as
well.
We
feel
this
is
again
another
character,
drawing
of
some
of
the
materials.
It's
all
steel,
sort
of
a
cage.
You
know
entryway
with
canopy.
It's
it's
a
cast
stone
on
the
bottom
accommodates
from
cast
stone
and
precast.
F
The
brick
is
normal
brick
size,
not
jumbo
brick.
It's
to
match
the
Women's
Club
brick,
the
span,
jewels
are
sort
of
a
powder
coated
called
a
crenelated
or
herringbone.
You
know
striated
herringbone,
but
that's
where
I
just
grab
it.
You
can
see
more
of
the
materials
this
sidewalk
that
links
Chicago
Avenue
through
our
property
all
the
way
to
the
alley.
F
Then
this
is
one
of
the
terraces
facing
south.
That's
on
the
first
level
of
office
space
and
here's
sort
of
a
close-up
of
how
some
of
these
moles
each
large
moles
kind
of
get
attached
to
the
building,
how
the
spandrels
work
and-
and
we
want
to
use
a
lot
of
millions
to
break
down
the
scale.
These
windows
and
not
just
have
big
glass
openings
and
that's
pretty
much
I
had
to
say.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything.
F
G
A
F
F
H
Thank
you.
So
we
went
through
dapper
two
of
the
big
reasons.
They
said
they
didn't
to
give
us
a
positive
recommendation
to
plan
Commission
were
public
benefits
and
and
in
the
alley
and
I
think
all
you
guys
could
see
the
packet
I
I'm,
not
the
I,
wasn't
sure
why
the
fire
department
chief,
wasn't
that
dapper,
but
we
have
his
letter.
H
We
we
spent
three
months
figuring
out
the
alley,
but
with
public
benefits,
we
were
told
by
staff
to
reach
out
to
the
the
council
to
see
what
what
public
benefits
can
go
to
each
warden
and
remind
I
have
to
remind
you
this.
This
projects
been
going
for
about
two
and
a
half
years,
so
interest
rates
are
up
about
two
hundred
basis
points,
so
this
project
is
we're
trying
to
keep
it
all
together,
financially
so
number
one.
H
The
first
bullet
point
that
we
left
out
of
the
dapper
presentation:
we're
going
to
install
landscaping
treatment
along
the
west
side
of
Chicago
Avenue
to
make
a
seamless
transition
with
other
landscaping
in
the
immediate
area.
That's
a
new
one
installation
of
street
trees
in
the
Parkway
along
Chicago
Avenue,
as
well
as
mature
trees.
On
the
terraces
on
the
north,
east
and
south
sides
of
the
building
replacement
of
and/or
upgrading
of
the
pavement
of
the
entire
alley
in
the
back
of
our
site,
that's
a
big
one.
H
That's
we
did
not
put
that
in
dapper
installation
of
new
sidewalks
from
north
lot
line
to
south
lot
line,
installation
of
signage
and
newly
constructed
crosswalk
in
the
alley
directly.
In
back
of
the
subject,
lot:
replacement
and
coordination
of
public
and
private
signage
in
landscaping
and
hardscapes
to
complement
downtown
environment
exceed
the
minimum
of
city
of
Evanston,
set
asides
for
local
labor,
particular
local
MBE,
WBE
participation,
developer
record
AGC
to
outreach
into
local
city.
Labor
developer
were
out
reached
to
local
grammar
schools
for
field
trips
visits.
When
completes.
H
F
H
H
A
I
J
But
good
evening
my
name
is
Steve
Corcoran
with
Erics
and
engineering
associates,
and
yes,
we
did
take
an
account.
The
ins
and
outs
I
mean
we
did.
Traffic
counts
in
the
surrounding
area
of
our
study
area,
as
well
as
at
that
intersection
where
the
library
garage
exits,
where
the
two
Lots
exited-
and
you
know
that
includes
a
combination
of
employees,
pluses
library
patrons
so
those
were.
We
did
incorporate
the
ins
and
the
outs
for
library
patrons.
H
H
There
are
many
Fortune
100
firms
looking
to
relocate
to
Evanston
a
lot
of
the
CEOs
live
in
Winnetka
and
North
Shore
area,
and
they
would
rather
not
drive
to
downtown
and
they
would
rather
drive
to
Evanston.
We
were
when
we
looked
at.
The
building
will
probably
have
north
of
500
employees
every
day.
Now
the
industry
standard
for
spent.
H
What
will
office
workers
spend
per
week
in
the
downtown
Evanston
area?
Well,
what
what
I'm
seeing
is?
They
they'll
spend
anywhere
from
15
to
20
percent
of
their
salary
just
eating
out
every
day?
What
does
that
mean
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
probably
anywhere
from
two
to
three
million
dollars
of
money
spent
in
the
downtown
area?
K
Force
it
out
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions
when
you
say:
there's
a
demand,
but
I
think
the
question
here
is
least
the
amount
of
square
feet
that
you're
that
you're
proposing
the
bill
and
what?
What
took
our
question?
What
is
your
plant
absorption
rate?
In
other
words,
do
you
think
it'll
be
two
years
ten
years
before
the
building
is
fully
occupied,
because
that
gets
to
the
to
the
volume
to
the
amount
of
of
space
and
the
amount
of
floors
and
all
the
other
issues?
The
second
related
issue
is:
what
do
you?
H
H
M
H
F
I
mean
during
a
weekday
yes
like
afternoon.
Our
traffic
study
and
on
three
different
days
shows
that
that
lot
has
approximately
21
spaces
filled,
and
then
there
are
about
23
empty
spaces
in
the
garage
underneath
the
library
which
is
garage
I,
don't
know
why
more
people
don't
use
it.
I
use
my
kids
growing
up.
So
our
thought
is
all
those
cars
during
a
normal
typical
day
can
be
accommodated,
underneath
which
we
would
hope.
That
would
happen,
and
then
our
garage
is
sort
of
overflow.
F
F
A
F
F
F
N
F
We
have
a
drawing
that
shows
that
and
and
I
believe
that
it's
it's
archive
the
archive
piece,
the
lobby
that
sticks
out
that
gives
us
that
dimension
so
I
mean
we
could
take
that
away.
We
don't
either
not
because
we
think
it's
a
beautiful
thing
to
do
for
the
street,
but
you
know
yeah.
It's
malleable.
F
O
Could
you
explain
maybe
where
the
idea
what's
the
idea
about
the
form
of
the
building
I
mean
I
got
you
know,
you've
picked
up
some
elements
from
the
Carlson
building
and
and
Marshall
Field's
and
some
of
the
other
ones
he
pointed
out
to
you,
but
the
the
actual
form
of
the
building
with
the
towers
and
the
infill
of
curtain
wall.
Well,.
F
When
we
first,
when
we
first
looked
at
the
building,
as
sort
of
as
a
massing
study,
it's
a
cube.
It's
a
really
in
elegant
plop.
In
fact
the
other
rfp
other
people
that
respond
to
the
RFP,
the
other
developers
all
came
in
with
things
that
was
just
like
just
a
block,
and
it
was
really
inarticulate
that
we
felt
that
the
only
way
to
get
an
elegant
sort
of
thing
that
matches
some
of
the
aesthetics
of
what
happened
earlier
in
downtown
amman,
where
those
really
lovely
buildings
was.
Was.
F
K
K
F
Like
a
ben-haim
edge
glass,
which
is
sort
of
it
lets
light,
permeate
and
motion,
but
it
you
won't
actually
see
automobiles,
and
that
was
the
idea
is
to
get
a
fenestration.
You
know
get
a
punched
opening
to
match,
get
closer
match,
the
other
like
the
punched
openings
of
the
Women's
Club,
for
instance,
but
obviously
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
cars
and
bumpers
and
tell
lies
so
the
ideas
is
sort
of
obscured.
Oh.
N
P
Q
F
P
P
F
R
Can
you
explain
to
me
the
the
changes
to
the
project
since
the
City
Council
approved
the
approve,
the
sale
of
the
property
to
you,
I
believe
supposed
to
be
an
11-story
building
with
a
130
to
6,000
square
feet?
And
now
it's
a
I,
think
8
stories
of
8
stories
of
sorry
office
space.
Now
it's
13
with
9
storeys
of
office
space,
but
still
one
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
square
feet.
Can
you
explain
like
what
am
I,
what
am
I
missing
there
I'm.
F
Know
I
mean
what
happened
is
when
we
had
all
these
meetings
with
staff
and
with
alderman
Fiske.
There
was
a
lot
of
input
about
parking
and,
and
they
didn't
think
we
had
enough
parking
and
parking
was
a
really
big
thing
and
we're
trying
to
keep
this
base.
You
know
to
the
scale
of
like
the
Women's
Club
to
try
to
make
it
feel
like
it's
organically
part
of
this
block,
and
if
we
were
to
provide
all
the
parking
that
so
asked
for
we
computed
it's
a
nine
story
parking
base.
F
So
we
did
add
one
extra
level
of
parking
because
we
felt
we
could
probably
squeeze
that
some
things
a
little
bit
trying
to
truncate
some
of
the
Florida
floors
and
made
the
slab
some
structure.
We
tried
to
play
games
there
to
try
to
get
that
base
being
four
levels,
but
still
being
you
know,
not
a
full-blown
one
more
level
in
real
height.
So
we've
chopped
a
little
bit
off,
not
much
a
little
bit
to
the
point
where
I
felt
it
still
sort
of
does
the
job
of
being.
F
R
H
Yes,
if,
two
years
ago
we
got
this
approved,
but
now
since
construction
has
gone
up
and
interest
rates
have
gone
up,
this
project
is,
as
we
wouldn't
have
made
it
without
another
floor
and
and
remember
Paul.
We
squeezed
the
floors
down
to
try
to
create
the
base.
It
went
up
to
twenty
one
point
four
feet,
so
we're
right
between
a
story
and
a
half,
and
so
we
had
to
increase
parking.
We
try
to
keep
the
architect
under,
so
we
could
squeeze
this
floor
to
height
ceiling.
H
So
we
kept
the
same
front
elevation
where
we
weren't
there
wasn't
a
big
parking
deck
for
next
to
two
buildings
and
we
tried
to.
We
tried
to
keep
thee.
We
went
up
not
we
went
up
another
story
in
parking,
but
we
try
to
keep
squeeze
the
the
building
down.
So
we
can
go
up,
maybe
a
story
and
a
half.
So
yes,
I
would
have
paid
more
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
but
right
now
the
way
interest
rates
are
going
and
the
way
the
construction
prices.
R
R
G
R
G
R
R
How
are
you
going
to
be
policing
that
I
mean
if
they're
gonna
rent
through
no
rent
your
office,
space,
I
presume
they're
gonna
want
to
have
parking
and
they're
gonna
want
to
when
they
pay
for
it?
They're
not
gonna
want
to
make
sure
they're
out
by
5:00,
because
that
doesn't
work
for
for
them.
Mm-Hm.
So
I'm
wondering
how,
when.
R
There's
really
two
issues
right,
so
we
have
the
employees
that
may
be
the
the
tenants
that
you
are
going
to
rent
to
those
employees
aren't
going
to
get
parking
from
their
employer
right,
but
they
may
nevertheless
there's
gonna
be
500.
Employees
I
have
another
people
working
in
your
building
and
some
employees,
a
good
majority
of
them-
will
not
be
not
have
parking
from
from
their
employer
that
they've
purchased
inside
the
building.
They
will
nevertheless
show
up
and
park
as
a
member
of
the
public
in
the
building.
Okay,
that's
just
that's
going
to
happen.
R
F
R
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
agreement
that
you
have
with
the
city
is
that
seventy
four
spaces
be
made
available
to
the
public,
not
to
the
library.
That's
the
library
users,
which
I
mean
I,
presume
a
good
number
of
them
that
use
that
lot
use
the
library,
but
but
it's
for
the
public,
and
so
some
sort
of
you
know
system
a
validation
system
that
doesn't
necessarily
fit
into
what
was
what
was
agreed
to
right
to
provide
74
spaces
for
for
public
use.
Well,.
F
If
you're
talking
about
the
dick
Turner
during
the
day,
we
already
did
that
study
where,
where
there
are
these
all
these
open
spaces,
there
is
not
that
demand
that
you're
suggesting
where
there
would
have
an
overflow.
It's
I
think
you're
talking
more
about
this.
This
netherworld
between
closing
time
for
their
office
building-
and
you
know
people
won't
use
it
for
downtown
I'm.
R
R
I
know:
there's
no
Parton's
built
tight
these
days
right
so
I
understand
no
one's
gonna
be
able
to
build
a
space
where
all
four
doors
open
up,
like
that's
understandable,
but
these
seem
to
be
narrower
and
shorter
than
then
what's
what's
normally
allowed,
and
so
what
kind
of
cars
actually
fit
there?
Well.
F
R
F
Well,
I
think
it's
8
by
18
is
that
correct,
8
by
teen
Chicago
is
considered
not
a
compact
space,
and
we
only
have
20
of
them.
Now
we
can
get
rid
of
those
compact
spaces
in
that
you
know,
because
there's
only
so
much
room
between
columns
right.
You
know
that
so
we
get
one
less
car
per
level,
so
we
lose
four
cars.
F
I
I,
don't
wanna
lose
four
cars,
but
if
that's
such
a
big
I
mean
my
feeling
about
this
country
and
and
the
idea
of
people
using
huge
gas
guzzling
oversized
cars
and
not
just
using
their
Fiats
and
their
smart
cars
and,
like
my
little
rabbit
I
have
that
seems
to
me
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
smaller
cars
like
that,
and
those
spots
are
perfectly
fine
for
that
there
and
we're
not
saying
100%.
We
did
that.
You
know
we
actually
had
a
lot
more
compact
spaces
in
our
last
proposal.
H
We
did,
but
since
the
entitlement
process
took
two
and
a
half
years,
we
lost
50%
of
the
building,
but
right
now
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
brokers
that
were
we
will
have
shortly
and
when
I
want
to
call
it
an
anchor.
But
at
least
a
quarter
of
the
building
secured
and
then
I
think
will
be
50%
full
before
we
close
on
the
property
is.
R
That
your
is
that
gonna
be
your
financing
requirement.
50%
least
now.
A
Is
that
all
good?
Is
that
all
all
right,
any
further
questions
from
commissioners
all
right
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
received
a
request
for
continuance,
for
which
is
the
right
of
any
property
owner
within
a
thousand
feet,
and
it's
been
verified
that
that
property
owner
is
within
a
thousand
feet.
So.
A
A
If
you
would
like
to
also
make
a
statement,
you
can
only
make
a
statement
either
at
this
meeting
or
the
next
meeting
I'm
allowing
statements
now
because
there
might
be
people
who
do
not
want
to
come
back
to
the
continued
meeting
and
I'd
like
like
your
voice
to
be
heard.
So
so
right
now,
I
would
ask
if
Vicki
Burke
would
like
to
speak
or
would
like
to
ask
a
question.
A
S
S
Kim
Stanton,
oh
sorry,
I
don't
really
need
a
mics
I'm
so
loud
incoming
president
of
the
Women's
Club
of
Evanston.
So
my
question
is
I
did
make
a
statement
tonight
that
I
can't
make
a
statement
at
the
next
meeting.
The
continuance
is
that
what
I'm
understanding
that's
correct?
Yes,
I,
think
I'll
wait
till.
R
A
So
the
next
meeting
regularly
scheduled
meeting
is
January
9th,
and
so
so
one
thing
I
should
clarify
also
is
that
the
public
notification
process
has
been
has
is,
has
already
been
done
for
this
meeting,
so
there
will
be
no
further
required.
Communica
s--
that
the
meeting
other
than
continuance
to
the
ninth
alright.
So
we'll
take
a
motion
after
the
questions,
whether
we
continue
or
to
that
okay,
so
Jack,
Weiss,
okay,
very
good,
Ben,
Shapiro,.
N
N
These
Thursdays
during
tax
time,
when
we're
helping
with
tax
preparation,
they
can
be
busy
at
them
too.
So
I
would
like
to
know
how
the
sampling
was
done.
The
number
of
samples
taken
and
what
times
a
day
they
were
done
also
with
the
vacation
of
the
alley.
I
understand
that
there
was
testing
and
some
agreement
from
the
fire
department
that
there
is
access.
N
So,
while
fire
engine
may
fit
a
tall
box
truck
or
a
tall
semi-trailer
that
it
needs
to
maneuver
around
that
corner
may
not
be
able
to
operate
in
that
space,
which
would
mean
that
we
would
be
taking
deliveries
through
our
front
door,
which
is
our
public
access,
and
it's
certainly
inappropriate
and
not
very
feasible
for
us.
So
those
are
my
two
questions:
semi
trailers
box
trucks
in
the
alley
and
the
sampling
times,
because
I
do
not
think
they
caught
a
representative
sample
of
the
use
of
our
library
parking
space.
Okay,.
A
J
So
to
answer
his
again
Steve
working
with
Erickson
to
answer
his
first
question,
we
did
a
parking
count.
Let
me
get
the
exact
date
again
on
Wednesday
March
14th.
We
did
all
day
from
8
a.m.
to
6
p.m.
at
that
lot,
as
well
as
the
Chicago
Avenue
parking
garage
across
the
street,
and
then
my
client
has
also
done
some
additional
parking
counts.
I
couldn't
tell
you
those
days
or
dates
in
terms
of
the
deliveries
to
the
library.
We
did
look
at
that
for
my
trailers.
J
J
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
all
four
all
of
them,
real,
quick
just
so
everybody
knows
what
we
did.
So
this
is
entry
to
our
loading
dock.
The
truck
comes
in
of
a
Clark
comes
down.
The
alley
goes
through
the
s-curve
sort
of
speak
and
then
backs
up
into
our
loading
dock
right
there.
So
we
can
get
a
semi-trailer
into
that
dock.
Now
the
reality
is
of
office.
Building
this
size,
there's
gonna,
be
very
rarely
semi
deliveries,
but
we
did
do
it.
It's
going
to
be
typically
box
trucks
from
day
to
day.
J
Here
is
the
library
again
we
use
a
slightly
bigger
semi
per
information.
We're
given
on
the
size
of
the
semi
truck
comes
in
off
the
street
system,
just
like
it
does
now.
This
parts
all
existing
goes
through
the
s-curve,
come
to
the
alley
and
then
backs
up
into
the
loading
docks.
The
loading
docks
are
right
in
this
corner
right
here
and
then,
conversely,
when
it's
done
at
least
a
dock
that
goes
straight
north
and
turns
on
to
the
street,
and
then
this
one's
a
little
harder
to
see,
but
essentially
oops.
J
This
is
a
the
design
vehicle
that
the
fire
department
gave
us
their
information
for,
and
we
ran
that
truck
through
the
s-curve
actually
in
both
directions.
This
shows
two
one
of
them
and
then
they
also
followed
up
and
they
actually
pulled
one
of
their
trucks
out
into
that
alley.
With
my
client,
they
coned
off
the
building
dimensions
and
then
ran
it
through
and
again
felt.
There
was
plenty
of
room
for
a
fire
truck
to
get
through
here
and
obviously
an
ambulance
is
small
or
shorter
and
they
can
make
it
through.
A
N
N
Snow
removal
is
an
issue
for
us
as
well,
since
we
are
responsible
for
clearing
the
sidewalks
all
around
the
library
and
our
Northside,
east-west
driveway,
for
our
parking
lot
normally
that
snow
has
been
stored
in
the
lot
that
will
be
now
occupied
by
this
building.
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
to
be
some
coordination
with
the
developer,
with
Northwestern
and
owns
the
dormitory
to
the
immediate
north
end
with
us
about
snow
removal,
because
there's
no
longer
any
storage
space.
T
Just
had
a
question
on
a
novel,
Wu
C
hav,
a
last
name
W,
you
1105,
Grand
Street,
just
looking
at
the
different
diagrams,
it
looks
like
the
alley
will
remain
two-way
traffic
and
I.
Guess
that's
my
concern
or
if
I
question
you
know
with
trucks
coming
in
both
directions,
you
know.
Is
it
going
to
continue
to
be
traffic
going
in
both
directions?
So
that's
I!
Guess
the
question
I
have
yes.
U
A
V
Close
I'm
Glen,
Glen,
Madea,
1401,
Davis,
Street
I'm,
also
the
executive
director
of
the
Center
for
Women's,
History
and
leadership.
We
run
the
Frances
Willard
house
Museum
and
the
Frances
Willard
Memorial
Archives
I'm,
also
the
site
manager
for
the
WCTU
historic
district,
which
is
the
property's
the
for
four
properties
immediately
north
of
the
of
the
proposed
library
parking
lot
building
I'll
defer
on
my
comments,
but
I
have
a
question
about
the
tree
protection
plan.
V
There's
one
column,
that's
headed
protected
tree
question
mark
and
these
are
all
trees
that
are
on
our
property
on
the
unlit
border
line
on
the
north.
One
one
column
is
had
it
protected
tree
question
mark
and
some
are
listed
as
yes.
Some
are
no
and
others
are
blank.
However,
in
the
notes,
column
all
say,
protect
and
only
one
says
demolish
and
none
are
listed
as
replace.
Can
you
explain
what
that
means?
V
F
V
F
W
Phobos
with
Halliburton
we're
against
a
Paul's
associate
architect,
we
understood
that
trees
are
at
issue
and
lost
trees
in
their
protection
are
an
issue
with
the
site.
Given
our
five
foot
setback,
so
we
haven't,
we
had
an
arborist
come
out.
Look
at
the
trees,
look
at
their
condition,
try
to
tell
us
which
ones
we
would
lose
and
which
ones
we
would
keep.
He
made
a
preliminary
analysis
and
I
think
that's
the
report.
You're
referring
to
it's
I,
think
it's
in
our
in
our
proposal.
W
Unfortunately,
we
are.
If
this
president
goes
forward,
we
are
in
loosened
trees.
We
just
can't
because
of
our
proximity
of
the
property
line.
It's
just
not
feasible
that
we're
going
to
save
all
of
them.
We're
going
to
do
all
we
can
to
mark
the
ones
that
he
said,
protect
that
our
worth
keeping
some
of
them,
he
didn't
feel
were
more
toward
the
end
of
their
life
and
wouldn't
be
lost.
We
would
look
to
replace
those
trees
that
are
lost,
but
we
have
to
do
further
studies.
W
V
W
That's
really
my
crew,
yeah
and
I
understand
your
confusion.
Lee.
The
purpose
of
the
arborist
report
was
just
try
to
tell
us
the
status
of
the
trees
that
were
there,
so
we
could
develop
a
further
plan
for
replacement.
So
the
report-
that's
in
there,
doesn't
really
address
replacement
of
the
trees
so
that
I
understand
your
confusion.
Thank.
A
E
R
Just
a
very,
very
brief
research
on
the
topic
is
that
it
all
depends
on
where
the
tree
comes
out
of
the
out
of
the
ground,
and
if
it's,
if
any
portion
of
it,
is
on
more
than
one
property,
then
the
tree
is
co-owned
and
you
can't
affect
it
in
a
way
that
that
would
know
you
can
trim
it.
But
you
can't
fact
it
in
a
way
that
would
destroy
it
without
joint
approval.
That's
my
very
limited
understanding
of
it,
but
obviously
the
law
department
can
can
confirm
that
all.
A
Right,
so,
if
we
could,
if
we
could
find
out
whether
a
tree
sitting
wholly
on
an
adjacent
property
can
have
its
roots
destroyed
in
such
a
way
as
to
destroy
the
tree,
you
know
do
they
need
to
seek
requests
or
what?
Whatever
the
you
know,
whose
ownership
is
that,
once
they
pass
so
okay,
alright,
only
a
couple
of
more
names
on
the
list
for
either
questions
that
you
can
return
again
and
ask
make
your
statements
or
make
a
statement
and
give
up
your
right
to
make
a
statement
later
so
Sharon,
Shaw
stock.
X
X
My
second
question:
there
have
been
statements
about
conversations
with
neighbors,
but
I've
noticed
that
the
McManus
Center
is
not
really
shown
on
many
of
the
drawings
and
their
loading
dock
and
parking
ramps
are
not
shown.
Has
northwestern
been
consulted
involved
in
the
process
of
meeting
with
property
owners.
M
M
Judy
Fez
Chris
Ward
Alderman,
we've
reached
out
to
all
of
the
adjoining
property
owners.
I
spoke
with
Dave
Davis
from
Northwestern,
as
you
may
know,
there's
a
change
in
the
community
of
relations
person
at
Northwestern.
It
was
Alan
Anderson
and
now
it's
Dave
Davis.
So
as
soon
as
mr.
Davis
came
on,
board
I
reached
out
to
him
reminded
him
that
this
was
an
issue
that
was
coming
before
the
Plan
Commission
and
apparently
he
has
reached
out
to
his
superiors
at
Northwestern,
so
I.
My
understanding
is
that
everyone
is
aware
of
this.
E
F
F
A
A
L
A
Right
I
will
read,
the
I
will
read.
The
request
is
from
RC
occur
as
an
owner
of
a
property
at
1738,
Chicago
Avenue
and
Evanston
I
respectfully
request
a
30-day
continuance
for
tonight's
discussion
regarding
the
proposed
plan
development
case
18
PLN
d
oo,
v
3
at
17,
14
17,
20,
Chicago
Avenue.
We
have
44
condominium
owners
at
Lakeview
Terrace
and
would
like
to
take
a
survey
of
the
residents
there
regarding
several
concerns
about
this
project.
Ally
concerns
traffic
issues,
etc.
We
will
need
to
call
a
meeting
with
our
residents
and
Judy
Fisk
beforehand.
D
A
C
C
So
I'm
Ann
browning
from
27:12,
Prairie
and
Mike
one
question:
this
is
probably
my
fault
that
I'm
not
as
informed
as
I
should
be
about
the
parking
but
I'm
still
kind
of
concerned
about
that
number.
One
I
do
park
in
that
lower
level
library
lot
a
lot
and
I
think,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
It
closes
at
nine
o'clock
or
something
like
that.
So
I,
don't
I,
guess
I,
don't
understand
how
that's
gonna
be
helpful.
If
you
have
to
be
out
of
there
by
nine
o'clock
to
the
public,
that's
number
one.
How
will
that
work?
C
E
C
Cuz
we
ran
into
that
issue
at
800,
Elgin
mm-hmm,
the
parking
disappeared.
Third
question
is:
are
these
public
spaces
after
5:00
during
the
day?
Whatever?
Are
they
gonna
be
metered
spaces
ticketed
spaces,
or
how
are
they
gonna
limited
me
or
like
to
our
meters
three
hours,
or
could
you
go
in
there
and
park
for
a
longer
period
of
time
makes
a
difference
on
how
helpful
that
really
is
to
people
whether
they
be
staying
there
a
long
time.
So
those
would
be
my
three
questions.
C
J
H
Believe
number
three
was
how
how
are
we
going
to?
We
were
mandated
by
staff
that
the
the
charge
and
and
how
then,
what
they
were
going
to
come
up
with
with
how
the
public
spots
twenty-one
would
be
during
the
day
and
then,
as
it
would
open
up
at
night
on
weekends,
saying
they
would
determine
how
much
it
would
be
whatever
it
is:
a
dollar
of
every
two
hours
but
I,
don't
know
what
it
is
right
now,
but
we
can't
divert
from
that.
H
So
when
we
said
we
would
replace
76
they
sometimes
you
know
they
would
tell
me,
is
the
developer?
Are
we
gonna
get
a
ticket
and
then
pay
at
the
pay
station
or
you
it's?
It's
now
changing
a
little
bit,
but
that's
dictated
to
me
by
staff.
So
how
that
public,
parking
on
weekends
and
after
five
and
the
twenty
one
spots
during
the
day
is
being
mandated
by
staff
to
me
how
we're
gonna
do
it?
Does
that
make
sense?
Okay,.
G
A
You
might
also
be
able
to
address
how
how
the
limitations
would
be
on
the
public
promise
spaces
to
lease
spaces
and
I
believe
Commissioner
Isaac
was
addressing.
How
that
issue
issue
was
that
that
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
spaces
that
you're
mandated
to
make
public
and
that
those
in
theory
doesn't
seem
like
they
could
be
leased,
I
think
it's
the
implication.
You
know
getting
to
them
being
fully
occupied
without
having
public
access.
So
has
there
been
any
thought
to.
F
F
F
A
Q
N
N
E
A
Y
Y
Lucy
I
would
either
1226
Lake
I
live
in
Wilmette,
but
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Woman's
Club
I'm
speaking
for
myself
today,
I
do
come
to
The
Woman's
Club
on
a
regular
basis
and
park
at
the
outside
parking
lot,
not
the
underground,
which
is
something
important
to
note.
They
were
talking
about
the
underground,
not
the
one
outside.
F
F
To
be
determined,
I
think
something
we
haven't
really
even
know
about
yeah.
Actually,
you
know
what
we
did
have
a
discussion
on
one
time
about
the
fact
that
there
would
probably
have
to
be
somebody
in
the
garage
all
the
time,
because
even
let's
say
a
machine
breaks
down
or
the
gate
doesn't
come
down.
F
A
Z
Commission
packet
on
pages,
41
and
43
to
help
further
depict
existing
conditions
along
the
alley,
including
two
underground
parking,
ramp
ramps
and
a
40
inch
high
back
platform,
including
exterior
stat
stairways
along
the
alley
at
the
back
of
the
McManus
building
a
48
inch
high
back
stoop
off
the
WCTU
administration,
building
the
underground
parking
ramp
for
Lakeview,
Terrace,
condominium
building
and
the
surface
parking
and
loading
areas
at
the
Woman's
Club
of
Evanston,
the
WCTU
campus
and
the
back
of
the
apartment
buildings
along
Clark?
Street?
Z
That's
my
first
question
and
my
second
question
is:
can
the
Ali
center
lines
shown
in
the
perspectives
on
pages
39
through
41
of
the
plan
development
application,
which
are
pages
28
through
30
of
the
planned
commission
packet,
also
be
shown
on
the
plans
in
on
the
pages?
52
and
54
of
the
planned
development
application
and
those
are
on
page
41
and
43
of
the
plan
commission
packet.
G
Q
Z
Z
G
Z
A
Z
F
A
Z
Tell
you
that
what
I
think
is
important
is
that
the
two
ramps
two
underground
parking
at
the
McMahan
--ax
McManus
Center,
which
are
on
this
alley.
They
are
not
shown
in
the
drawings.
There
is
also
a
black
a
back
platform
on
the
back
of
that
building,
which
is
yeah
but
they're,
not
on
your
plans
on
the
plans.
Z
Q
Z
The
underground
parking
ramp
should
be
shown.
The
black
the
back
platform
on
the
back
of
the
building
should
be
shown.
There's
a
stoop
on
the
back
of
the
WCTU
administration.
Building
that
sits
right
at
the
alley
line.
I
think
that
those
would
give
a
better
impression
of
how
tight
that
alley
is.
Plus
there
are
surface
parking,
lots
and
delivery
areas
at
the
woman's
Club
site,
and
also
at
the
WCTU
Historic
Site.
Z
F
All
right
just
just
be
clear
when
we're
what
we're
proposing
is
vacating
that
one
triangular
piece
of
the
alley
yes
and
and
setting
our
building
back
east
five
feet,
which
makes
the
alley
behind
our
building
wider
than
any
other
part
of
the
alley
and
the
entire
thing.
So
that's
feeling
the
safest,
that's,
probably
the
safest
area,
no
honey
and
control
over
the
university
building,
and
there
concrete
things
and
stuff
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
what
we're,
but
what
we
can
do
about
that
yeah.
A
F
A
D
A
A
W
M
M
Q
A
AA
Good
evening,
everyone,
the
text
amendment-
that
is
the
first
text
amendment
that
is
in
front
of
the
Commission
today-
is
for
our
order
redevelopment
overlay
district.
This
district
was
essentially
created
to
allow
for
some
flexibility
in
land-use
layout
and
design
and
redevelopment
areas
where
there
is
an
opportunity
for
mixed-use
development
or
development
projects
in
which
one
or
more
of
the
uses
are
different
from
but
compatible
with.
The
principle
permit
uses
in
the
districts
and
a
planned
development
is
required
for
all
new
developments
within
the
Ord
districts.
AA
Currently,
our
overlay
districts,
or
this
particular
overlay
district,
is
applied
in
the
southwest
portion
of
the
city
in
north
and
south
of
open
Street
between
Hartree
Avenue
and
the
city
limits
so
essentially
where
the
sports
dome
and
Home
Depot
is
so.
The
permitted
uses
within
the
Ord
overlay,
our
outlined
in
Section,
six
1513,
seven
permitted
uses
and
they
are
any
use
listed
as
permitted
or
special
use
in
the
underlying
base.
Zoning
district,
and
that
is
highlighted,
because
that
is
an
important
point.
AA
They'll
get
to
in
a
second
dwelling
or
multifamily
dwellings,
we're
not
more
than
30%
of
a
particular
planned
development
site,
excluding
affordable
housing
as
determined
by
the
Planning
Commission,
but
in
no
case
shall
that
actual
total
housing
area
include
including
affordable
housing,
be
more
than
60%
of
the
site,
mixed-use
development
and
retail
goods
or
service
establishments.
When
located
on
the
ground
floor.
AA
Staff
is
actually
proposing
two
different
amendments
to
these
particular
sections.
The
first
one
is
a
pretty
quick
one
to
section
six
1513,
two
or
procedures
for
district
designation.
We
would
be
proposing
in
Subsection
a
to
add
the
c1
commercial
district
to
the
lists
of
zoning
districts,
where
the
redevelopment
overlay
is
permitted
to
be
designated,
but
currently
there
actually
is
already
an
area
in
that
southwest
portion
of
the
city
that
is
zoned
c1
adjusts,
for
whatever
reason
is
not
in
this
particular
list.
AA
The
second
portion
of
the
amendment
is
to
actually
amend
sections
6,
1513
7
permitted
uses
and
actually
create
a
new
section,
6
1513
8
special
uses,
specifically
for
6
1513
7,
which
is
permitted
uses.
We
would
cross
out
the
small
portion
of
subsection
a
where
we
have
our
special
use
for
the
underlying
base.
Zoning
district
and
create
a
new
subsection
where
we
list
special
uses
for
the
Ord
district
shall
be
any
use,
listed,
added
special
use
in
the
underlying
base,
zoning
district.
AA
So
basically,
what
this
particular
amendment
would
do
would
make
it
so
permitted
uses
that
are
within
the
underlying
zoning.
District
are
also
permitted
uses
in
the
Ord
and
then
special
uses
that
are
listed
within
the
underlying
zoning
district
are
also
special
uses
within
the
Ord.
The
way
it's
currently
worded,
it's
worded
in
such
a
way
where
one
could
interpret
it
to
be
that's
both
permitted
and
special
uses
would
be
outright
permitted
within
the
Ord
overlay
district.
AA
So
that
being
said,
we
have
standards
for
amendments,
and
that
is
whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
general
plan
has
adopted
and
amended
from
time
to
time
by
the
City
Council.
Whether
the
proposed
amendment
is
compatible
with
the
overall
character
of
a
16
development
and
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject
property,
whether
their
proposed
amendment
will
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
value
of
adjacent
properties
and
adequacy
of
public
facilities
and
services.
So
that
being
said,.
A
A
A
O
R
A
A
AA
So
this
particular
text
amendment
is
actually
a
revisiting,
a
discussion
that
occurred
at
last
month's
Commission
meeting
where
we
began
the
discussion
on
public
benefits
and
what
type
of
language
the
Commission
might
want
to
see
for
any
updates
that
we
propose
going
back
a
little
bit.
These
are
the
current
public
benefits
that
are
listed
within
the
code.
They
are
pretty
broad
in
general
and
off
of
the
discussion
that
occurred
last
month.
AA
We
got
the
direction
to
kind
of
narrow
in
and
make
the
public
benefits
a
little
bit
more
specific,
especially
with
regards
to
how
we
have
been
approving
and
reviewing
public
benefits
thus
far
and
for
most
recent
approved
public
benefits.
We've
had
them
fall
into
several
different
categories,
including
streets,
great
streetscape
and
infrastructure
improvements,
CTA
and
Metro
transit
provisions,
car
share
provisions,
public
art,
vehicle
charging
stations
and
green
building,
which
would
be
above
the
minimum
LEED
Silver
certification,
which
is
required,
and
some
of
the
other
public
benefits
have
been
public
park.
AA
AA
Public
benefits
are
not
considered
to
be
the
proposed
principal
uses
on
the
zoning
a
lot,
but
rather
an
accessory
feature
or
use
complimentary
to
the
proposed
principal
uses.
These
benefits
should
not
be
limited
solely
to
the
proposed
developments,
residents
or
tenants,
but
should
also
be
accessible
to
the
public
and
or
mitigate
impacts
of
the
development
on
surrounding
residents.
Infrastructure
and
utilities,
so
the
first
section
is
probably
going
to
look
very
familiar.
We
took
what
are
currently
our
public
benefit
standards
and
made
them
into
goals
because
they
are
so
broad.
AA
They
address
a
broader
range
of
things
that
we
are
seeking
to
have
the
only
changes
that
proposes
to
remove
item
four,
which
is
use
of
design,
landscape
or
architectural
features,
educate,
a
pleasing
environment
or
other
special
development
features.
This
is
essentially
a
part
of
the
process
that
happens
during
the
course
of
review,
especially
through
our
dapper
committee
web
designer
project
review
committee
reviews.
AA
If
you're
going
from
a
vacant
lot
to
a
structure,
that's
going
to
change
the
tax
base
and
we're
looking
for
something,
that's
a
bit
more
substantial
of
a
public
benefit.
And
lastly,
we
adjusted
item
9
slightly
just
taking
out
this
one
addressed
the
sustainability
aspect
of
development,
we're
just
going
to
remove
the
section
that
says,
such
as
level,
silver
or
higher
lead
or
Leadership
in
Energy
and
Environmental
Design
certification,
essentially
removing
that,
because
we're
going
to
address
it
more
specifically
I'm
in
the
next
section.
AA
So
the
completely
new
section
that
we're
proposing
actually
lists
out
public
benefit
categories
and
lists
some
examples
of
how
those
particular
aspects
could
be
addressed,
won't
go
into
complete
details
for
all
of
these,
but
the
categories
are
affordable,
housing,
encouragement
of
alternative
modes
of
transportation,
streetscape
improvements,
infrastructure
improvements,
public
art,
sustainability
measures,
education
and
employment
preservation
and
open
space
and
park.
Dedication.
AA
The
second
new
section
would
be
standards
for
evaluation
of
these
public
benefits,
so
this
is
actually
a
section
that
is
similar
to
a
section
within
the
redevelopment
overlay
district.
We
essentially
took
that
language
and
changed
it
so
that
it
addressed
s--
development
and
public
benefits
and
I'll
actually
go
through
these.
AA
Excuse
me
of
the
streetscape
frontage,
where
it
is
to
be
located
in
the
zoning
lot
itself.
The
degree
of
public
accessibility
to
the
development
or
public
benefit,
given
its
location
and
the
specific
nature
and
of
the
public
benefit
feature
the
quality
of
design
of
the
development
or
public
benefit.
In
the
context
of
the
principle
use
of
the
Zoning
lab
the
location
of
said,
zoning
lie
in
the
zoning
district,
adjacent
properties
and
uses
the
use
and
street
frontage
character
of
the
zoning
lot
said.
AA
AA
At
the
end,
which
states
said
the
City
Council
may
find
that
the
degree
to
which
any
of
the
above
standards
are
met
are
not
sufficient
to
mitigate
or
offset
the
requested
site.
Development
allowance,
and/or
impacts
of
the
proposed
development
on
the
surrounding
community
and
may
request
that
additional
public
benefits
be
provided.
So
that's
essentially
what's
proposed
at
this
point
and
again
we
have
the
four
standards
for
improvements
of
amendments,
so
with
that
I
will
open
it
up
to
any
questions
or
comments.
K
Sorry
I
wasn't
here
at
the
last
meeting
when
this
was
discussed,
but
first
of
all
in
this
last
list,
I
would
eliminate
four
and
five
four
and
five
seems
to
be
what
you
should
expect
from
a
development
like
this
and
I
think
there,
because
it
addresses
design
and
the
the
in
the
previous
list
when
you
took
out
a
couple
of
those
items
that
seems
like
they
address.
The
same
thing
like
this
is
this
is
to
be
expected.
The
other
thing
is
that
and
I
think
this
is
generally
I.
K
Think
this
generally
about
these
public
benefits.
Is
that
especially
like
this
last
development
then
came
in
I
thought
those
those
public
benefits
were
extremely
weak
and
I
know
this?
Doesn't
this
doesn't
designate
any
sort
of
it
doesn't
qualify
them?
As
you
know,
if
you're
responding
to
one
of
these
items
is
and
say
whether
your
your
response
is
strong
or
weak,
it
could
be
a
lot
of
different
levels
of
response,
but
it
seems
like
what
what
do
we
get
into?
Is
that
there's?
No
there's
no
qualitative
guideline
or
quantitative
kind,
better,
yet
quantitative
guideline?
K
In
other
words,
it's
not
tied
to
okay.
This
will
this.
This
will
that
you
need
to
put
then
so
much
money
to
to
do
these
things.
There's
no
there's
it's
just
so
vague
and
so
loose
and
I,
just
I
I
think
the
best
thing
Chicago
did
was
to
eliminate
a
lot
of
those
benefits
that
they
had
listed
in
their
zoning
code.
And
now
it's
basically
you
know
you
want
more.
A
There
were
there
were
presented,
you
know
different
ways
of
looking
at
this
totally.
You
know
one
is
the
prescriptive
old
Chicago
code.
You
did
a
setback,
you
got
so
much
bonus
for
a
setback.
You
got
so
much
bonus
for
a
plaza.
You
got
so
much
what
whatever
it
was.
That's
very
you
know
very
prescriptive
thing.
That's
a
total
change
from
where
we
are
so
so
the
so
I
guess
the
question.
D
And
just
just
gonna,
just
costing
commissioners,
not
just
it
probably
best
to
speak
in
generalities,
not
a
none,
specific
projects
that
aren't
noticed
under
this
item,
but
but
it
certainly
understand
that
point,
and
that
was
that
was
part
of
some
of
the
discussion
we
had
before.
So
there
is
some
language
in
this
that
that
at
least
gives
an
idea
of
sort
of
the
degree
of
the
the
site,
development
louses
versus
the
degree
of
the
benefits,
but-
and
that's
in
some
that
language
and
see
there.
D
The
the
second
sentence,
for
example,
plan
creation,
City
Council,
so
consider
the
degree
to
which
the
thawing
standards
are
met
by
the
proposed
public
benefits
within
the
overall
context.
The
principle
uses
that
are
offered
but
I.
The
point
is
taken.
I
think
sure.
Louis
summed
up
well,
is
kind
of.
You
know
whether
we
want
to
move
to
either
incentive
based
system.
You
know
kind
of
tit
for
tat.
You
know
a
percentage
basis
of
X
improvement
gets
why
if
they
are
or
or
the
the
neighborhood
opportunity
fund
system
was,
was
brought
up
as
well.
A
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
benefits
of
the
looseness
is
is
that
it
allows
innovation
where
the
prescriptive
is
is
set,
that
they've
got
the
guidelines.
Are
there
and
you
don't
get
any
kind
of
innovations
from
it?
You
know
you
just
play
within
the
rules,
so
in
a
way
I
would
say.
Yes,
it
works
in
that
that
it
has
come
up
with
all
these
various
ways
of
of
benefiting
the
community
from
and
and
and
modifies
itself
as
it
goes
along.
A
So
when
parking
boxes
come
up
instead
of
parking
meters
that
can
become
a
public
benefit,
you
know,
how
do
you
pay
for
that
right?
So
so
the
the
way
things
change
this.
This
allows
change
to
happen.
You
know
and
but,
and
stay
current
and
relevant,
where
I
think
you
in
some
other
ways
might
create
a
dinosaur
right
away.
You
know
that
it's,
it's
so
fixed.
You.
K
A
I've
done
that
in
the
prescriptive
way,
I
sat
there
and
did
calculations
where
I
manipulated
the,
how
the
setbacks
were
and
the
whatever
in
order
to
maximize
the
fa
are,
and
the
you
know,
the
the
height
and
all
sorts
of
things.
So
yes,
I
mean
that
is
the
goal
is
to
mak
their
their
goal
is
to
make
money
and
maximize,
and
ours
is
to
is
to
create
public
benefit
for
the
for
the
community
of
Evanston.
Okay,.
K
Well,
maybe
I
guess
we
just
disagree,
that's
what
I
think
that
from
the
from
the
developers
want
to
know
they
want,
they
want
to
know
they
don't
want.
They
don't
like
variables
and
uncertainty.
They
want
to
know
so.
I
think
a
more
prescriptive
method
would
help
them
and
I
think
it
would
just.
It
would
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
arguments.
What.
K
A
A
So
so
that's
taking
this
to
very
big
issue
whether
we
should
stay
stay
within
the
means,
basically
what's
being
proposed
as
a
refinement
of
the
current
system.
In
order
to
clarify
it,
give
a
little
bit
more
definition,
and
you
know,
what's
what's
now
being
discussed,
is
going
to
going
to
evaluating
the
entire
the
entire
system,
whether
there's
a
better
way
to
deliver
that
and
so
wondering
how
to
move
forward.
In
that.
You
do
have
a
comment.
R
P
Got
a
question
about
the
lead
category,
so
is
it
currently
the
status
in
Evanston
that
were
pursuing
LEED
buildings,
because
there's
now
starting
to
be
a
bit
of
a
pushback
between
is
lead
the
best
method,
and
do
we
want
to
clear,
like
have
any
other
options
available
for
the
future
proofing
of
this?
So.
D
Maybe
add
a
little
additional
information
there,
LEED
Silver
is
what's
required
now
in
our
green
building,
ordinance
for
buildings
of
a
certain
size
and
then
generally,
all
the
planned
developments
are
there.
So
that's
where
it
is
currently
I.
Think
of
the
city,
some
some
staff
and
I
think
we've
really
brought
it
to
a
policy
level,
have
thought
about
using
other
systems
or
equivalent
systems,
green
globes
or
other
Passivhaus
other
things
that
are
out
there.
D
So
we
certainly
you
know,
have
collected
some
information
about
those
and,
at
some
point
would
probably
be
looking
to
update
that
Green
Building
ordinance,
so
that'll
probably
be
the
place
where
we
really
get
to
it.
Specifically,
there
I
think
we
did
just
want
to
clarify
in
the
plan
developments
that
that's
not
really
a
public
benefits,
insardi
requirement
at
the
Green
Building
ordinance
to
do
LEED
Silver.
So.
A
D
A
Yeah
I
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
of
mentioning
the
lead
55
because
there's
a
lot
of
local
local
interest
in
the
bird
bird
safety.
So
stating
I
don't
know
if
it
is
appropriate
to
state
it
here,
but
it
is
it
is
you
know
in
the
regulation
I
would
you
know
maybe
think
that
that
should
be
put
in
somehow
into
the
into
the
into
the
city,
green
Green,
Building
Code,
you
know
and
and
then
we
could
still.
A
O
Respectful
I
do
agree
with
George
I
mean
I,
think
it
it.
It
would
help
streamline
the
process
a
little
more
and
one
one
thing
I've
heard
from
people
who
go
through
our
Evanston
process
do
tell
me
that
it
is
very
cumbersome
and
it
is
you
know
it's
it's
a
lot
of
process
and
any
I
think
anything
we
could
do
to
make
it
to
simplify
it
to
quantify
it
or
you
know
very
clearly.
O
We
already
do
that
to
some
degree,
with
the
housing
ordinance
I
mean
you.
If
you
can't
satisfy,
or
if
the
economic
model
doesn't
work
to
get
the
right
mix,
then
they
they
put
money
into
the
fund
to
offset
that
I
mean,
isn't
yeah
I
know
it's
not
optional,
but
if
we
were
to
okay,
if
we,
if
the
person,
if
the
developer
can't
meet
the
FAA
are
and
they
want
to
buy
more
area,
then
we
put
a
quantity.
O
You
know
on
that,
FA
are
so
they
you
know.
People
can
understand
ahead
of
time
before
going
through
all
of
these
committees.
You
know
what
what
it,
what
it's
going
to
take
to
arrive
at
a
solution
that
will
be
acceptable
without
without
kind
of
get.
Well,
if
I
add
some,
you
know
if
I
had
a
some
W
station
here-
and
maybe
you
know,
change
a
couple
streetlights,
maybe
they'll
make
it
go
away.
O
You
know
costs
associated
with
what
what
it
takes
to
get
something
built,
because
that's
ultimately,
why
they're
getting
at
they're
looking
at
their
calculators,
and
it's
all
about
money
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
a
project
goes
ahead
or
not,
so
it,
I
think
the
easier
we
can
make
that
without
compromising
the
values
of
the
good
citizens.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
good
goal
to
do
that
so
I
think
all
of
these
things
could
our
items
that
could
be
used
with
the
money
that
is
charged
to
buy
those
those
rights.
O
L
O
R
R
I
mean
for
for
money.
We
are
effectively
seeding
at
least
some
amount
of
control,
and
you
know
I
presume
that
a1
an
analysis
of
what
our
current
FA
our
standards
are.
What
their
limits
are
right
now
would
have
to
be
part
of
the
investigation
to
determine
what,
where
the
limits
should
be
and
how
much
we
should
allow
people
to
buy
right.
K
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it
has
to
be
automatic,
I
think
if
they're
going,
if
they're,
if
they're
asking
for
if
they
are,
for
example,
above
zoning
I,
think
it's
still
a
decision
be
made,
but
I
think
it
I
think
adding
some
quantitative
information
to
to
these
is
it's
just
helpful
for
them
to
know
what
level
we're
talking
about?
Because
you
know
you
could
you
can
meet
these
standards
with
you
know,
50
bucks
and
I
mean
or
you
can
meet
them
with
$5,000
and
I.
K
Think
what
we
need
to
say
is
that
you
know
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna
meet
if
you're
going
to
go
for
this
qualitative
standards,
it
has
to
be
in
the
in
the
financial
commitment
level
of
X
and
though
it,
but
it
still
makes
the
whole
project.
It
doesn't
say
that
we
have
to
approve
it
just
because
you
do
that,
but
that's
a
that's
a
standard
for
approval,
but.
A
So
we
relinquish
that
aspect
of
it.
I
mean
the
if
they
give
if
they
are
willing
to
pay
the
amount
for
FA
are
then,
then
that
big
a
building
goes
there.
You
know
if,
if
the
building
you
know-
and
we
wouldn't
have
the
right
to
say
this-
is
a
strip
of
land
where
all
the
buildings
are
our
little
single-family
sized
buildings
and
now
we're
putting
up
a
big
Tower
in
the
middle
of
it
I'm
using.
K
O
R
R
It
I
don't
know
that
it
affects
at
least
the
way
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
in
my
head
is
I.
Don't
think
it
affects
the
language
we're
looking
at
today,
but
maybe
it's
something
that
we
can
look
to
add
to
say.
You
have
two
choices:
right
developer.
You
want
to
try
and
meet
the
goals
this
way
or
you
can
meet
the
goals
with
cash.
I
presume
that
that
some
of
the
commissioners
believe
that
a
large
number
of
the
developers
would
choose
to
satisfy
that
with
cash,
because
that's
just
it's
more
certain
to
them
right.
A
Yeah
so
so
III
think
that
changing
the
system
it
has
a
lot
of
complexity
to
it
and
would
have
to
be,
you
know,
would
would
be
a
long
process
to
do
it
I
mean
totally
doing
it.
Not
only
is
there
the
complexity
of
waiting?
What's
the
value
of
each
thing
you
know,
are
we
charging
the
right
amount
for
the
right
object,
but
then
once
we
get
the
money,
the
whole
mechanism
within
the
city
has
to
be
set
up
to
spend
and
distribute
that
money,
and
that
becomes
a
issue,
and
you
know
I
I,
don't
that's.
L
L
K
K
K
A
That's
assuming
that
that
the
three
bodies
who
who
review
this
the
staff,
who
has
a
lot
of
discretion
under
this
system
to
negotiate
is,
is
not
doing
their
job
us
who
are
not
are
not
doing
our
job
in
order
to
enforce
the
the
benefits,
the
proportionality
of
the
benefits
and
the
City
Council.
Also,
it's
all
don't
I
mean
the
example
of
paying
a
hundred.
You
know
getting
getting
past
light
is
not
probably
correct,
I
mean
it
may
be
heavy.
A
K
Okay,
I
just
think
that
that's
how
developers
think
they
think
in
cash
I
and
I
and
I,
don't
think
when
we
look
at
these
things.
We
were
thinking
in
cash
when,
if
we
were
to
get
to
the
public
benefits
of
the
last
applicant
I
think
some
of
them
sound
great
but
there's
no
cash
assigned
to
it
so
well.
I.
A
Mean
that's
part
of
that's
part
of
the
discussion,
and
the
deliberation
should
be
should
be.
You
know
whether
whether
there's
value
to
the
community
given
for
the
for
what
what
we're
giving
them
you
know
in
their
development.
So
that's
part
of
the
discussion
in
any
in
any
I'm
gonna
be
general
in
any
discussion.
So,
okay,
I.
K
AB
K
P
P
P
A
A
I
AA
Generally
speaking,
there
are
number
of
discussions
that
occur
before
a
project
gets
even
to
design
a
project
review
committee
and
it
can
be
subjective.
It's
kind
of
a
it's
definitely
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
based
on
the
type
of
proposed
development
where
that
particular
development
is
what
may
be
happening
around
that
particular
development
and
that
can
kind
of
dictate
what
public
benefits
we
seek.
So
in
some
place,
that's
more
heavily
built
up.
We
might
not
be
requesting
as
much
with
regards
to
like
devastations
or
something
like
that.
AA
So
there's
definitely
a
good
amount
of
discussion
and
into
a
couple
other
points
that
I'm
hearing
there
is
a
negotiation
that
occurs
with
regards
to
pricing,
even
because
I'm
thinking
with
regards
to
some
of
the
planned
developments
where
we
have
required
or
put
a
condition
on
approval
where
they
donate
or
they
provide
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
towards
traffic
signal
improvements,
or
something
like
that.
So
there
are
cases
where
we
do
put
an
actual
number
for
a
particular
public
Venice.
It
just
depends
on
what
public
benefit
we're
looking
at.
AA
We
don't
necessarily
do
that
for
a
specific
piece
of
public
art,
although
we
have
quantified
that
before
and
requested
a
five
thousand
or
ten
thousand
dollar
payment
be
done.
For
that,
so
I
mean
there
are
cases
where
we
do
negotiate
some
kind
of
price
for
the
public
benefits.
It's
not
something
that
is
extremely
prescriptive.
We're,
okay,
you
have
a
four-story
building
that
is
next
to
a
school
or
something
like
that.
We
need
to
have
this
particular
amount
of
money
for
XYZ
public
benefits.
AA
The
pricing
amount
would
change,
so
they
might
not
be
able
to
necessarily
have
the
same
amount
of
money
for
the
next
20
years
or
the
same
percentage
of
their
budget
for
the
next
20
years.
So
it
did
I'm
definitely
hearing
what
different
sides
are
going
on.
Just
thinking
of
different
options
that
might
I.
R
Mean
I
understand
your
your
point
like
we
can
get
to
the
same.
We
can
get
to
the
same
place,
we're
otherwise
getting,
and
there
won't
have
to
be
many
discussions
right.
It'll
cut
down
lead
time,
we'll
get
the
same
benefit
and
they'll
just
make
it
a
lot
easier
right,
I
mean
I,
like
all
that
sounds
amazing.
R
A
Well,
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
subjective
I
mean
if
you,
if
what
we
have
in
the
zoning
ordinance
is
certain
things
that
are
for
sale.
We
have
FA
our
increases
and
if
they
are
setbacks,
you
know
in
residential,
there
are
other
criterias
their
square
footage
per
unit
and
other
measures
like
that
and
that's
what's
what
we
can
increase
discretionarily
in
a
planned
development.
A
So,
let's
just
for
any
better
cost,
call
it
forward,
and
so
we
could
have
that
system
where
we
sell
those
for
amount
of
money
and
then
just
give
it
to
some
body
of
the
city
to
to
sell
for
whatever,
whatever
they're
gonna
spend
it
on
art.
You
know
divvy
stations
whatever,
or
we
can
do
little
menus.
That
are
that
that
still
don't
do
that.
You
know
don't
sell
those
things
but
sell,
put
prices
on
the
on
the
benefits
and
I.
E
A
A
Okay,
so
so
that
would
be
part
of
a
motion
could
include
modifications
to
this
proposal
of
eliminating
four
and
five
and
changing
the
the
things
that
have
been
proposed
are
eliminating
four
and
five
on
the
standards
for
evaluation
and
on
the
under
public
benefit
categories,
be
rewarding
the
sustainability
measures
to
refer
to
see
green
ordinance.
So
those
are
possible.
Modifications
to
this
proposal
is:
is
that
what
you're
talking
about
or
I
guess.
K
L
Don't
know
if
I
disagree
with
that,
but
I
mean
I,
think
someone
who
that
wind
where's
the
wind
tunnel,
one
I
mean
if
someone
puts
something
in
that's
mitigating
the
potential
for
a
you
know.
What
are
they
call?
Those
wind
tunnels
I
think
that's
something
that
could
be
considered
an
environment,
yeah.
G
A
Yeah
so
I
guess
I
guess
my
comment
would
be
would
be
yes,
we
consider
it
as
design
professionals
to
be
basic
design
things,
but
I
don't
know
where
else
that's
codified
within
within
the
ordinance
that
that
those
are
values
that
are
that
are
held.
Is
there
other
places
that
four
and
five
would
be
codified
so
in
in
the
in
the
lead
criteria?
There
is
another
place
where
it's
codified
as
the
green.
You
know
building
ordinance
and
we
can
refer
to
that
I,
don't
know
where
four
and
five
would
be
referred
to.
K
E
K
K
R
What
about
the
standards
for
approval
of
a
planned
development
are
four
and
five
otherwise
included
they're
an
obviously
much
different
language,
but
something
to
that
effect,
because
if
I
agree,
this
is
this
is
something
we
look
at
well
we're
not
the
design
and
review
right
committee
right,
but
that's
definitely
a
way.
We
look
at
things
and
it
would
seem
to
me
that
would
it
would
need
to
be
in
the
in
some
way
in
the
in
the
standards
for
approval
planned
development,
if
it's
just
across
the
board,
that's
where
that's
where
it
should
would
be
found.
A
There
now
so
so
in
in
six
eleven
1-10
plan
developments,
it
does
mention
that
each
development
shall
be
compatible
with
and
implement
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan,
as
amended
from
time
design,
blah
blah
blah
use,
use
or
urban
design
specific
to
the
area.
This
zoning
ordinance
and
other
pertinent
City
Planning
and
development
policy,
particularly
in
terms
of
land,
used
land
intensity,
housing,
preservation,
environmental,
whatever.
That
means
an
urban
design,
traffic
and
parking
impact
on
schools
and
and
public
service
facilities,
the
essential
character
of
the
downtown,
neighborhood
planning,
etc.
R
Isn't
there
one
that's
it's
it's
just
sort
of
a
catch-all
that
has,
it
doesn't
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
on
the
surrounding
properties.
R
Me
that
that
that
five
in
the
standards
for
evaluations,
public
benefits
or
the
proposed
standards
for
evaluation,
promote
public
benefits
would
ultimately
fall
into
that
category
right
and
very
vague,
and
we
can
decide
what
it
means,
depending
on
what
the
what
the
project
is
and
where
it
is,
and
what
it's
doing
to
the
surrounding
properties.
So.
A
So
can
I
ask
staff
either
one
of
you.
What
is
your
motivation
in
including
these,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
especially
calling
these
out,
as
is
as
a
so-so?
So
actually
let
me
look.
Let
me
let
me
step
back
because
maybe
we're
misinterpreting
this.
This
is
not
a
suggested
public
benefit,
but
this
is
a
criteria
for
evaluating
public
benefits,
so
it
is.
It
is
actually
not
something
that
you
can
ask
for.
A
R
AA
The
way
that
it
was
worded
here
is
so
that
you
can
look
at
the
development
itself
to
see
how
contributes
or
does
not
contribute,
but
then
also
look
at
the
public
benefit
and
kind
of
juxtapose.
The
two
so
you're
still
looking
at
the
development
itself
to
see
how
it
impacts
the
surrounding
area,
but
you're,
also
looking
at
the
public,
benefit
to
see
how
it
may
mitigate
that
impact.
So
that
was
the
motivation
behind
having
both
in
there,
but
that
needs
to
be
changed
or
modified
to
be
clearer
than
can
do
that.
Yeah.
A
A
Yeah,
so
so
I
have
a
not
just
a
little
digression
from
this.
These
standards
for
evaluation.
Are
you
envisioning
staff
that
this
would
become
something
that
would
be
read
off
and
evaluated
as
we
do
the
standards
for
special
uses,
etc
in
in
our
in
our
deliberations?
Would
we
go
through
each
one
and
say:
does
the
development,
the
quality
of
the
design
of
the
development
benefit
the
context
of
the
principal
use
of
the
zoning
lot?
You
know
and
state
those
things
and
go
through
that
process
where
I
think.
D
They
do
be
used
in
the
evaluation
of
the
project.
Nepal
benefit
would
likely
be
referenced
in
the
staff
report.
We've
referenced
the
standards
now
for
map
amendments,
special
use,
planned
development,
etc
and
then
kind
of,
depending
on
the
project.
How?
Specifically
it's
discussed
by
the
the
Commission,
but
it
should
be
the
criteria
and
evaluation
for
the
project
by
the
Commission.
K
D
A
A
L
A
A
A
AA
Or
anything
for
this
generally,
these
are
just
the
standard
meeting
dates
before
the
year
for
the
Planning
Commission,
we
reserved
the
second
Wednesday
of
each
month.
If
necessary,
we
preserve
the
fourth
Wednesday
of
each
month
and
just
in
case
there
are
a
lot
of
different
projects
coming
through
which
fair
warning
there
is
in
the
coming
few
months,
and
then
we
have
the
the
zoning
committee,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
committee's
that
meets
the
most,
which
we
set
aside,
the
third
Wednesday
of
the
month
for
those
meetings
and
those
are
scheduled
as
needed.