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A
A
C
A
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
minor
corrections
on
page
four
in
the
second
paragraph
and
the
third
paragraph
council,
member
kelly's
name
is
misspelled,
so
I
think
that
should
be
corrected
and
similarly
on
page
five
mary
singh,
it's
s-I-n-g-h
is
how
that
name
is
spelled
and
on
page
six,
karen
singh
same
spelling,
s-I-n-g-h
and
that's
all.
I
have.
E
A
A
Okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
planned:
development
at
1012,
chicago
avenue,
21
plnd.
A
Stan
bernstein,
so
I
pronounce
that
close
mcz
development
applicant
submits
for
a
special
use
for
a
plant
development
and
a
special
use
for
dwellings,
multi-family
to
construct
a
five-story
mixed
use,
building
with
5822
square
feet
of
ground
floor,
retail
116
dwelling
units
and
58
parking
spaces
in
the
c
1.
A
mixed
use.
District.
A
Two:
a
building
height
of
80.6
feet
where
67
feet
is
allowed
three
to
reduce
the
required
number
of
off
street
parking
spaces
from
75
to
58
and
four
to
reduce
the
required
number
of
short
loading
docs
from
two
to
one.
The
applicant
may
seek
the
plan
and
the
plan
commission
may
consider
additional
site
development
allowances
as
may
be
necessary
or
desirable
for
the
proposed
development.
A
So,
let's
see
I'll
read
this
into
the
record,
just
because
I
should,
even
though
I
see
we
don't
have
a
lot
an
audience,
but
the
the
purpose
of
the
plan
commission
and
the
public
hearing
is
to
gather
facts
and
information
regarding
a
petition
provide
that
information
with
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
approval
with
refinements
or
denial
to
the
city
council
with
minutes
and
exhibits
where
the
finance
action
will
occur.
A
However,
any
member
of
the
plan
commission
and
city
staff
may
question
any
member
of
the
public
who
has
spoken
regarding
their
testimony
and
then
there's
a
summary
in
closing
closing
by
the
petitioner
and
staff,
at
which
point
the
plan
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
finally,
we'll
make
a
motion
on
the
matter.
F
F
The
property
itself
is
just
over
a
half
acre
at
0.63
the
overall
floor
area.
Ratio
of
the
building
is
at
3.98,
where
4
is
the
max,
so
they
do
fall
within
what
is
what
is
permitted
and
again.
The
building
is
a
five-story
building,
measured
just
80
feet
and
a
half
to
the
top
canopy
portion
of
the
building,
the
roof
itself.
The
roof
deck
itself
is
at
a
height
of
6
61.5
feet,
and
then
the
mix
of
dwelling
units
include
16,
studios,
81,
bedroom,
12,
2,
bedroom
and
8
live
work.
Units.
F
This
is
the
site
plan
in
this
orientation.
North
is
on
your
right.
Chicago
avenue
is
at
the
bottom,
so
this
is
looking
down
from
the
roof.
The
building
itself
pretty
much
occupies
the
entire
site.
The
first
the
first
floor
is
set
back
from
the
property
line
about
seven
feet:
to
provide
extra
pedestrian
area
at
the
ground
floor.
The
upper
floors
can't
deliver
over
that.
F
F
F
F
The
project
does
comply
with
the
city's
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
10
units
are
required
and
10
are
being
provided.
F
F
G
G
F
Of
the
others
on
this
list,
staff
feels
are
inherent
to
new
developments,
so
not
necessarily
a
public
benefit
to
to
compensate
for
the
impacts
of
new
development
staff
is
suggesting
that
these
these
additional
benefits
be
be
considered.
A
I
have
one
question:
where
is
the
fit
simmons
park?
Is
that
the
one
that's
on
lee
street.
A
A
I
thought
it
was
off
of
greenleaf
and
lee
to
the
south
of
it's
behind.
It's
only
yeah,
that's
what
I
thought
the.
I
I
I
have
several
questions.
You
talk
about
dwelling
units,
but
I
I
assume
these
are
rental.
I
Right,
it
doesn't
say
anywhere,
so
I
at
least
I
didn't
see
it
so
just
to
confirm
the
rental
units.
Yes,
because
they're
small
units,
it
makes
sense
the
additional
parking
additional
public
improvements
that
the
staff
suggested.
Are
you
doing
any
of
those.
G
I
A
I
I
did
have
a
question
for
steph.
Actually
I
had
read
in
the
city
council,
one
of
the
city
council
meetings
that
I
I
think
they
were
going
to
do
this-
to
ask
the
not
the
applicant
to
do
a
traffic
study,
but
that
the
city
would
do
a
traffic
study.
Where
does
that
stand.
H
I'm
I'm
not
positive
where
that
stands
right
now.
I
know:
there's
actually
been
some
discussion
about
the
city
contracting
out
to
to
have
an
independent,
but.
A
F
D
Michael,
how
do
you,
how
do
you
all
feel
about
reducing
to
one
loading
dock,
especially
if
you're
going
to
restrict
the
hours
for
deliveries?
How
do
you
evaluate
whether
that's
going
to
be
be
workable
for
everybody.
F
F
D
D
A
Along
those
same
lines,
I
have
a
question
about
the:
how
the
work
live,
deliveries
might
function
and
whether
or
not
the
proposed
work
live
units
that
are
shown
on
the
drawings
will
comply
with
the
requirements
of
the
the
new
work
live
provisions
that
are
at
the
city
council.
At
this
point
I
mean
it
looked
like
one
of
the
you
know
in
the
staff
memo
you
said
you
know,
the
sizes
would
range
from
500
to
you
know
a
little
over
1100
square
feet
and.
G
A
I
Also,
I
I
in
the
staff
report,
I
think
I
read
that
there
was
a
statement
that
said
that
the
liverwork
units
were
primarily
residential.
I
didn't
understand
that.
A
H
E
I
mean
I,
I
would
think
that
the
live
work
would
have
very
little
impact
on
deliveries.
I
mean
just
based
on
their
size.
I
mean
these
are
not
going
to
be
large-scale
manufacturers,
large-scale
retail
establishments.
I
would
think
most
things
would
be
coming
in
in
fairly
small
cars
or
trucks,
if
not
people
just
bringing
in
the
stuff
on
their
own.
I
J
Evening
again,
my
name
is
nick
foticus,
I'm
one
of
the
attorneys
at
law,
offices
of
sam
banks
and
I'm
working
with
mcc
development
on
the
proposed
plan
development.
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
with
staff's
report.
I
was
actually
prepared
to
go
through
all
the
comparisons,
but
I
think
maybe
responding
to
the
three
or
four
questions
that
were
raised
to
give
a
little
bit
of
insight
from
the
developer
side.
J
So
the
the
first
question
that
came
up
regarding
the
potential
retail,
obviously
in
kind
of
the
recovery
to
covid
the
retail
market,
is
a
bit
uncertain.
We're
providing
5822
square
feet
plus
or
minus
of
retail
space
that
can
either
be
divided
into
multiple
spaces
or
if
an
anchor
tenant
were
to
come
in,
have
a
larger
anchor
tenant
within
smaller
retail
spaces,
but,
frankly
or
frankly,
the
the
market,
when
the
building's
delivered
will
really
control
that
that
portion
of
it.
J
The
idea
here
is
again
someone
in
a
response
to
covid
and
people
working
from
home
more
and
having
the
opportunity
to
have
a
low
impact
type
use
and
not
have
to
pay
a
separate
rent
for
an
apartment,
in
addition
to
a
retail
space,
so
similar
uses
that
I've
personally
been
a
part
of
have
been
attorneys
offices.
J
J
With
respect
to
the
community
benefits
component,
we
have
have
gone
truthfully
back
and
forth
with
staff
trying
to
find
the
right
balance
for
what
type
of
commitment
we
can
frankly
again
commit
to
and
know
that
there's
no
uncertainty
with
it
by
comparison.
There
are
a
number
of
larger,
bigger
developments
in
the
immediate
area
and
then
in
in
downtown
evanston
generally,
but
we
thought
that
somewhere
between
a
25
and
30
000
commitment
that
could
then
be
broken,
whether
it's
to
one
program
or
broken
up
into
multiple
programs.
J
We're
really
we're
open
to
that.
But
we
we've
also.
We
don't
want
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
over
promise
the
community
benefit
component,
because
the
project
financing
again
it
is
a
little
bit
tighter,
we're
talking
about
116
units.
10
of
those
units
are
at
an
affordable,
inclusionary
rate.
Eight,
our
low
income
are
are
intended
to
be
live
work,
so
this
spreads
just
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
larger
developments
that
I'm
sure
this
body
has
seen
in
the
past.
J
Still
that
25
to
30
thousand
dollar
range
is
something
that
we
feel
that
we
can
commit
to.
We
had
initially
proposed
the
a
portion
of
the
money
go
toward
the
chicago
avenue,
streetscape
improvement.
We're
obviously
going
to
be
able
to
improve
our
section
with
the
tree.
The
lining
that
michael
described
along
the
streetscape
we'll
also
be
making
utility
upgrades
and
improvements
to
accommodate
our
building,
but
in
addition
to
that,
we
thought
that
would
be
a
pretty
cohesive
use
of
the
funds
and
additionally
fitzsimmons
park.
J
We
had
left
about
the
ten
thousand
dollar
investment
for
improvements,
whether
it's
to
the
equipment,
whether
it's
to
landscaping.
However,
it
needs
to
be
used
or,
however,
it's
best
used,
as
determined
by
the
parts
department
we're
open
to
making
that
commitment.
J
K
K
Can
you
hear
me
okay,
aggressively,
modern?
I
would
say
yes,
it's
certainly
a
modern
building,
so
you
know
I've
talked
about
this.
Maybe
this
is
the
the
best
view.
K
The
analogy
that
I've
talked
about
in
the
past
is
that
the
vision
for
this
was
a
village
on
this
part
of
the
land,
a
village
of
apartments
that
we
would
break.
What
might
be.
This
is
a
five-story
building,
so
not
a
tremendously
big
building,
but
five
stories
presenting
its
long
facade
along
chicago
that
by
unitizing
it
making
it
about
the
the
parts
and
not
the
whole,
was
a
way
of
kind
of
connecting
it
to
the
density
and
sort
of
scale
of
the
neighborhood.
K
So
that's
what
you
see
all
these
sort
of
assembled
boxes
they're.
They
vary
between
open
porches
for
those
tenants
and
enclosed
spaces.
Those
two
villagy
balconies
that
extend
out
over
are
just
a
little
bit.
You
know
the
idea
is
really
to
connect
it
to
the
community
literally
and
meaning
that
so
they
they
kind
of
poke
in
and
out,
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
K
You
know
the
materials
we're
still
working
on
right,
so
the
thinking
is
like
a
patented
copper
metal
panel
we're
doing
perforated
metal
we've
been
working
with
bird
friendly
evanston
on
bird
strategies,
so
the
perforated
metal
is
a
substitute
for
what
you
might
see
is
glass,
railings,
typically,
and
the
perforated
metal
is
a
way
to
kind
of
connect,
the
massing
and
the
openness
of
the
building,
meaning
that
there's
a
more
of
a
transition
between
a
wall
and
a
balcony.
K
And
then
you
can
sort
of
see
with
the
the
the
balconies
kind
of
poking
in
and
out,
they
kind
of
create
some
shadow
and
just
definition.
More
definition
that
you
might
get
for.
The
building
michael
had
mentioned
that
the
building
itself
is
set
back,
seven
feet
from
our
property
line
and
that's
at
the
first
two
floors
and
then
at
the
levels,
three
and
four
they
start
projecting
out
and
that's
it's
not
an
even
projection
and
some
of
the
balcony
components,
project
out
and
some
stay
back
at
that
seven
foot
depth.
E
K
E
So
what
actually
crosses
over
the
property
line?
Michael
mentioned
something
about
a
right-of-way
encroachment.
K
You
can
see
that
that
one
box-
that's
okay,
we'll
call
it
aggressively
poking
out
that
box,
that
is
basically
a
metal
enclosure
for
a
balcony.
It's
it's
open
space.
It's
not
enclosed
apartment
space.
It's
it's
someone
to
kind
of
hang
out
and
have
coffee
and
and.
K
L
E
E
I
Actually,
before
you
do
that,
could
you
talk
about
the
mechanical
screening,
because
it's
not
on
these
drawings
right
and
the
mechanical
is
shown,
but
what
are
you
doing
what's
the
material?
I
K
No
so
this
is,
these
are
all
just
straightforward,
residential
furnace
systems,
so
these
are
condensers
much
like
we
all
have
in
our
backyard
for
sure
so
they're
they're
too
taunt,
yet
right,
and
so
they
will
be
enclosed.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
that's
something
I
think
we
have
to
work
out,
but
that
it
might
be
helpful
if
we
can
see
that
roof
plan.
You
know
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
height
of
the
building
that
that
81
foot
height
is
to
the
very
top
of
the
building.
K
So
that's
those
are
the
screens
that
provides
trellis
the
trellis
components
that
provide
sort
of
sun
screening
for
the
roof
deck
itself.
The
actual
top
of
the
roof,
where
you
know
people
are
going
to
be,
is
more
like
62
feet
at
the
top
of
the
plan.
Just
beyond
that
top
stair
you'll
see
a
dog
park,
so
it's
a
place
to
walk
your
dog
and
then
there's
just
kind
of
different
spaces.
Seating
areas,
kitchen
space-
some
of
them-
are
open.
Some
of
them
are
covered,
there'll,
be
some
green
roof
here.
C
I
I
K
L
E
K
So
if
we
haven't
what
you're
actually
seeing
it's
the
top
most
covered
piece,
it's
the
it's,
the
it's
a
gate.
If
you
will
for
this
site,
it
comes
up
much
higher
in
the
building,
and
it's
really
just
in
a
shade
screen
detail.
So
that
comes
up
higher
than
everything
else
and
that
that
accounts
for
the
19
feet
and.
K
E
I
have
a,
I
have
a
question
for
staff.
I
think-
and
probably
neither
one
of
you
can
answer,
because
it's
probably
a
public
works
question.
You
know
we're
doing
this
streetscape
for
chicago
avenue.
What
is
the
timing
of
that
in
relation
to
this,
and
how
will
you
know?
Obviously,
if
we,
if
we
have
a
nice
streetscape
and
then
we
start
having
a
bunch
of
construction
equipment
coming
down
chicago
avenue
on
our
nice
new
streetscape?
E
F
Right,
I
don't
have
the
answers
to
that.
I
don't
know
what
the
timing
is
on
that
on
the
street
skate
project,
and
I
don't
even
know
what
that
the
final
details
will
be.
I
just
know
every
conversation
that
we've
had
with
the
applicant
and
public
works
has
been
to
make
sure
that
they're
aware
that
this
is
going
on
to
make
sure
that
there's
coordination.
E
E
H
H
Yeah,
I
know
they're
they're
in
the
planning
stages,
because
they've
asked
me
about
some
other
projects
along
chicago
avenue
and
their
timing.
But
yeah
we
don't
have
a
set
timeline.
J
So
for
that
exact
reason
that
we
don't
tear
up
something
that
was
just
put
in,
we
were
hoping
to
benefit
as
part
of
the
community
benefit.
Our
plan
calls
for
street
streetscape
improvements
on
our
on
the
inside
of
our
property
and
along
the
general
public
right
away.
It's
a
narrower
sidewalk,
however,
again
just
to
be
clear.
J
The
idea
was
to
coordinate
that
very
specifically
with
public
works,
to
make
sure
that
again,
we're
not
tearing
up
new
sidewalk
or
new
street
surfaces
to
then
have
to
repair
it
ourselves,
because
I
think,
as
ms
jones
said,
we'd
be
responsible
for
repair,
repairing
anything
all
over
the
public
way.
D
Sorry
one
more
question
for
our
architect.
Sorry
as
we
look
at
the
plan
that
so
you
have
your
your
balcony
protruding
into
the
right
away
over
the
sidewalk,
if
you
had
a
little
more
setback
from
the
sidewalk,
could
you
keep
some
clearance
there?
So
folks
don't
feel
as
if
they're
passing
under
anything,
I'm
worried
about
two
things,
just
just
the
the
sense
that
you're
walking
down
a
canyon
on
chicago
avenue.
D
At
that
point,
with
things
closing
in
on
you
and
then
just
I
don't
know,
if
there's
anything
like
water,
rain,
water
or
anything
that
would
come
off
that
element
onto
the
sidewalk
and
onto
pedestrians,.
K
I
I
fully
understand.
I
think
that
what
I
would
rather
not
do
is
sacrifice
the
rest
of
the
building
for
water
in
fact,
or
two
balconies,
and
if
and
if
it
was
decided
that
the
balcony
cantilever
is
fine,
but
maybe
it's
not
worth
all
of
that
you
get
from
it.
Then
it's
something
that
we
can
certainly
consider
pretty.
Looking
at.
K
I
There's
a
building
on
halsted
street
in
chicago
that
all
the
balconies
hang
over
the
property
line.
And
it's
raised
because
there's
retail
on
the
ground
floor
and
I
have.
I
D
I
Excuse
me,
I,
mr
architect,
you
said
you
were
going
to
go
through
the
ground
floor
because
I
have
a
question
on
the
ground.
Yes,.
K
Okay,
my
name's
bill
rhoden
hornoff
by
the
way,
okay,
so
the
the
floor
plan
that
you
see
on
the
left
is
the
lower
level
that
space
to
the
top
is
storm
water
retention.
So
we're
providing
that
on
site,
of
course,
and
that
occupies
part
of
the
ramp
area
and
then
so.
The
entry
and
loading
is
all
at
the
north
end
of
the
site.
K
K
The
lower
level
for
the
most
part
is,
is
primarily
parking.
There
are
some
mechanical
equipment
rooms
down
there,
but
for
the
most
part,
it's
parking
and
then,
on
the
first
floor,
as
I
said,
you
have
the
the
loading,
so
the
the
site
is
landlocked.
There's
no
other
way
for
us
to
enter
this
building
except
off
of
chicago,
and
so
we've
chosen
to
do
that
stuff,
all
in
same
place
that
stuff
being
loading
and
parking
entrance,
and
so
the
parking
is
just
south
of
that
parking
entrance.
It's
all
set
back.
K
I
believe
it's
21
feet
from
the
lot
line
itself.
All
of
the
loading
that
that
is
the
space
that's
configured
for
loading
is
inside
the
building.
So
we're
not
looking
to
use
that
that
outside
footprint,
the
loading
space
itself
is
more
generous
than
that
footprint.
So
we're
we're
not
just
providing
a
a
35
by
10
foot
room,
it's
a
much
bigger
room,
so
you
know
you
could
imagine
that
two
small
panel
vans
could
could
park
in
here.
So
the
thinking
is
it
it's
a
little
bit
oversized
for
you
know
that
use
as
needed.
K
Bike
storage
also
happens
up
here
and
then
that
pink
that
that
pink
space
that
runs
along
the
the
lot
line
itself
is
that
retail
space
that
nick
mentioned
it's
designed
such
that
it
can
be
divided
up
into
numerous
smaller
retail
or,
as
nick
mentioned,
one
larger
retail
space.
K
The
purple
areas
are
the
live,
work,
there's
a
couple
off
the
the
street,
and
then
they
have
the
ones
in
the
back
have
their
own
courtyard
they're.
You
know,
as
nick
mentioned,
you
know,
maybe
they're
you
know
attorneys,
who
are
working
from
remotely
an
accountant,
but
you
know
maybe
also
painter
a
jewelry
maker.
You
know
people
who
are
who
live
there,
but
also
spends
a
portion
of
their
space
on
making
a
living,
and
then
the
the
actual
residential
entrance
is
at
the
opposite
side.
K
So
on
the
south
part
of
this
the
site,
so
it
it
has
all
those
sort
of
residential
things.
There's
a
lobby.
There's
mail
packages
are
all
delivered
there.
E
I
have
a
quick
question
on
elevators.
I
don't
know
this
because
I'm
not
an
architect
is
two
elevators
a
sufficient
number
for
this.
If
you
have
people
moving
in
and
out,
where
you're
shutting
one
down
potentially
so.
I
K
G
I
We
haven't
talked
about
parking
in
terms
of
this
variance
you're
asking
for,
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
biggest
issue
with
the
neighborhood,
and
so
I
I
don't.
I
guess.
Maybe
this
is
a
first
a
question
for
staff.
You
thought
their
staff
thought
that
that
this
was
even
though
it
was
below
what
was
required.
It
was
adequate
for
the
location
for
this
building
in
a
tod
area
that
that
that
number,
even
though
it
was
below
what
was
required,
it
was
adequate.
Now,
how
did
you
come
up
with
that?.
I
F
You're,
correct
staff
feels
the
number
is
adequate
to
serve
the
the
number
of
dueling
units
in
the
retail
space,
primarily
because
this
this
location
is,
is
very
well
suited
in
a
in
a
very
rich
public
transit
corridor,
and
so,
while
not
everyone's
going
to
be
using
transit
and
some
people
will
be
parking.
I
You
know,
theoretically
I
I
get
that,
but
I'm
wondering
does
staff
have
any
other
data
of
other
buildings
and
what
the
actual
usage
is
to
sort
of
come
to
this
conclusion
on
a
numbers
basis,
without
I'm
just
saying
I
your
opinion,
I
understand
and
generally
I
understand,
but
is
there
any
other
data
that
tells
you
that
this
is
going
to
be
okay.
F
I
think
the
cities
in
the
last
few
years
have
been
trying
to
encourage
less
parking
and
I
think,
trying
to
maintain
an
overall
ratio
that
this
building
has
about
about
half
of
the
dwelling
units
parking
for
about
half
the
number
of
dwelling
units.
So
I
think
the
ratio
is
within
what
the
city
has
been
trying
to
to
encourage
or
maintain.
I
Concern
of
the
neighbors
is
obviously
that
people
will
people
that
you
don't
think
will
have.
Cars
will
have
cars
and
they
will
park
in
the
neighborhood
and
there's
not
enough
spaces
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
for
these
people.
So
that's
you
know,
that's
the
concern,
so
I
I
it
seems
like
we
we
evanston
should
have
some.
You
know,
data
on
on
other
buildings,
that
we've
granted
exceptions
on
the
parking
two
and
and
how
they're
working
out,
because
that
that
would
be
a
not
every
neighborhood
is
the
same.
I
I
understand
that,
but
that
would
still
be
a
good
good
information
for
the
neighborhoods
to
have.
I
think.
H
I
know
one
in
particular
was
approved
some
time
ago
and
was
at
about
one
space
per
unit
and
they
reduced
their
significantly
was.
H
It
was
e2
so
on
emerson,
so
there
was
that
one
and
then
also
811
emerson,
recently
came
back
to
do
something
similar
now
those
are
closer
to
northwestern's
campus,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
the
concern
there,
with
students
having
vehicles
and
a
lot
of
the
residents
in
that
area
also
having
vehicles.
So
there
are
instances
where
there
are
buildings
that
are
seen
to
be
over
parked.
H
I
don't
know
that
we've
had
something
similar
happen
to
the
buildings
in
this
particular
area.
I
also
think
some
of
those
might
also
be
condo
buildings,
so
we
don't
necessarily
have
that.
I
I
I
also
on
this
on
this
topic.
I
know
that
in
chicago,
if
you
are
and
chicago
isn't,
evanston,
I'm
not
saying
that,
but
just
as
another
example
in
chicago.
If
you
are
a
tod
and
you
get
your
alderman
to
approve
it,
you
can
actually
have
zero
parking
zero.
Now
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
projects
do
have
zero
parking,
but
I
know
for
a
fact
that
some
of
the
some
of
the
projects
in
tod
areas
in
chicago
have
very
minimal
parking
and
they're
fine.
J
J
I
think
what
we're
expecting
is
maybe
25
to
26
of
the
spaces
will
actually
be
used,
and
then
we
actually
talked
with
our
the
colleagues
at
dapper
to
maybe
even
make
some
of
those
spaces
available
for
some
of
the
other
residents
in
the
in
the
area
generally,
if,
if
that's
a
benefit
that
can
be
provided,
so
our
our
expectation
or
projection
call
it
somewhere
between
25
and
30,
cars
would
actually
be
parked
on
site
regularly.
A
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
again
related
to
parking.
I
see
both
with
the
the
loading
dock
and
the
parking
garage.
There
are
doors,
and
so
the
first
question
is:
can
you
kind
of
explain
where
the
retail
the
spaces
for
retail
are
those
for
employees
like
it.
J
J
J
We
also
have
discussed
allowing
a
certain
segment
of
the
spaces
right
at
the
entry
point
to
the
garage
to
be
used
by
retail
customers
if
they
choose
to
actually
go
into
the
building
again.
Some
of
that
we
have
to
see
what
the
market
is
and
see
how
the
usage
rates
actually
are
when
the
building's
delivered.
J
But
those
are
some
preliminary
ideas
and
concepts
that
we've
already
had
some
background
conversations
with
staff
about
and
how
to
manage
that
appropriately.
So
I
don't
know
if
I'm
giving
you
a
clear
answer,
but
it's
on
our
mind
and
we
thought
again
so
that
there
isn't
an
interference
with
the
the
tenants
of
the
building,
the
residential
tenants
and
people,
members
of
the
public,
using
those
spaces
to
try
and
section
off
a
number
of
spaces
for
retail
use.
Only.
A
Okay
and
then
for
the
loading
dock,
if
you're,
showing
garage
doors
you
know,
you've
got
garbage,
will
have
to
be
picked
up,
the
move-in
move
out
and
how?
What
are
the
hours
for
the
management,
or
will
they
be
on
site
during
the
day?
How?
How
will
that.
N
A
So,
in
that
case,
how
do
you
handle
the
deliveries
for
people
move
in
move
out?
Would
you
have
them
on
site.
A
N
N
The
building
engineer
would
be
would
be
there
during
during
normal
hours.
Currently
we
don't
have
plans
to
have
someone
there
24
7,
but.
E
N
We
typically
do
that
in
the
garages,
so
typically
in
front
of
the
parking
spaces,
we
had
some
storage,
lockers
or
cages
that
would
be
available
for
tenants.
N
So
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
haven't
worked
out
yet
we're
looking
into
it,
but
we've
that's
how
we've
handled
it
in
the
past
with
some
of
our
buildings.
So
we'll
definitely
look
into
that
and
we
can
get
back
to
you
on
the
details
of
that.
I
Just
just
a
couple
more,
let's
see
yeah
in
there
in
the
report
in
the
staff
report,
there
was
a
comment
about
the
clearance
in
the
loading
docks,
14
foot,
clear,
which
is
normal,
and
it
wasn't
14
foot
clear.
If
you
can,
if
you
considered
the
I
guess,
it
was
a
rolling
door
or
something.
K
K
I
And
then
I
have
a
question
for
staff
on
these
public
improvements.
They
mentioned
the
20
to
30.
000
was
a,
I
don't
know
typical
of
other
projects
of
this
size.
Do
you
guys
have
any
data
on
that
is
that
is
that
true,
that
that
is?
That
is
what
we
expect
from
projects
like
this
or
or
do
we
expect
more.
F
That
list
came
specifically
from
from
the
public
works
agency.
That
was
the
law.
That
was
the
the
list
that
they
gave
us
and
now.
I
I
understand
that
that's
a
wish
list,
but
again
it
seems
like
it
would
be
a
nice
thing
to
have
data
on
different
projects
and
what
the
improve,
what
the
public
improvements
were
and
how
much
they're
worth
what
the
size
of
the
project
was
just
a
simple.
You
know,
because
otherwise.
G
H
Yeah,
I
think
that's
some
information
that
we
can
pull
together.
Generally
speaking,
those
prices
match
what
I
have
seen
in
the
past:
they're
not
always
going
to
be
exactly
the
same,
depending
on
the
location
and
and
exactly
what
is
being
done
and
what
equipment
may
be
needed
if
it's
like
a
countdown
time,
timer
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
that
that
information
can
be
pulled.
A
And
I
I
think,
just
as
a
matter
of
policy,
the
public
benefits
really
ought
to
relate
to
the
project
being
built.
So
I
I
think
that
that
things
like
the
streetscape
enhancements,
the
the
sidewalk
improvements,
those
sorts
of
things
and,
and
frankly,
I
think,
the
adding
the
extra
six
or
seven
feet
the
setting
back.
The
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
very
helpful
in
that
location.
That's
kind
of
why
I'm
not
sure
how
I
feel
about
you
know
the
contribution
to
the
park,
improvements
nicest.
A
That
is,
I
think
that
I
I
think,
just
as
as
a
matter
of
course,
I
think
for
projects
we
ought
to
be
looking
at
public
benefits
that
are
specifically
tied
to
the
project.
A
Okay,
nothing
else
right
now.
Okay,
at
this
point,
we
have
members
of
the
public
who
I
believe
would
like
to
to
speak.
We
have
jan
stein
and
are
you
going
to
speak
together.
A
Yeah,
I
think
so
since
they're
only
since
they're,
only
only
two
of
you
and
what
I
would
suggest
you
know
we
have
a
two
minute
time
limit,
usually
but
and
we've
kind
of
we've
combined
kind
of
questions
and
and
testimony.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
if
you
have
questions
of
either
the
applicant
or
staff.
If
you
ask
the
questions
first
and
we'll
get
the
answers
and
then,
if
you
have
comments
you'd
like
to
make
about
about
the
project
generally,
then
then
we
can.
M
Do
that
well,
may
I
have
a
question
to
start
just
a
question
for
staff.
Okay,
we
live
on
the
street.
Most
people
on
our
street
do
not
have
garages
most
of
the
people
have
at
least
one.
Maybe
two
cars
were
around
the
corner
from
that
building,
so
you've
got
you've
reduced
the
number
of
parking
spaces
and
unless
you're
going
to
not
allow
people
to
move
in
there
they're
going
to
end
up
parking
on
our
street
and
then
where
do
we
park?
I
mean
we
have
a
90
year
old
woman
on
our
street.
M
We
have
a
disabled
guy,
I'm
I've
got
legend
and
you
know
I
need
to
park
in
front
of
our
house,
and
so
the
question
is:
do
you
have
plans
to
address
that
so
that
we
can
continue
to
park
on
our
own
street?
Even
now,
you
know
when
they
have
the
big
events
on
dempster
street
like
before
covet
they
would
have
district
65
would
do
an
art
fair
up
there
and
things
like
that.
Then
our
streets
even
difficult
to
park
on
then
we
you
know
and
if
we've
got
another
building.
A
I've
got
a
question
related
to
that.
Do
you
have
resident
only
parking
in
your
neighborhood
or
no
no.
A
L
Think
is
the
main
issue
here,
certainly
so
what
jumped
out
at
us?
Why
we're
here?
Somebody
at
some
point
in
history
decided
that
the
appropriate
numbers
for
this
location
are
78
residences
and
75
parking
spaces.
Approximately
one
space
per
unit
sounds
very
reasonable
to
me:
suddenly
you're,
adding
50
percent
of
the
number
units
and
cutting
the
parking
spaces.
So
there's
a
just
a
50
percent
to
me
it
seems
like
an
extraordinary
ask,
an
extraordinary.
L
L
I
I
respect
for
mr
rogers,
I
mean
you
say
only
25
spaces
will
be
used
for
116
units.
That
just
seems
hard
to
believe
I
mean
most.
People
have
cars.
L
L
M
G
L
M
H
So,
technically
speaking,
when
we
look
at
plan
developments,
we
have
the
base
zoning,
so
that
is
essentially
what
could
be
built
by
wright.
Within
the
code.
An
applicant
is
able
to
apply
for
either
variances
or
site
development
allowances,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
project,
so
they
are
are
within
their
right
to
pursue
going
above
and
beyond
to
a
certain
extent,
because
there
is
a
limit
on
those
site,
development
allowances
as
well,
so
it
it's
all
within
the
code.
H
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it'll
be
passed,
because
that
is
the
decision
of
city
council.
They
are
the
final
determining
body,
but
it
is
something
that
can
occur
and
also
more
recently
with
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
the
updates
to
that.
If
onsite
affordable
units
are
provided,
then
that
can
provide
some
additional
bonuses.
So
there
are
ways
that,
by
code,
some
additional
units,
size
etc
can
be
permitted.
If
again,
council
decides
to
do
so.
A
And
with
some
of
the
larger
developments
that
have
happened
over
the
last
really
10
years
or
so
that
have
provided
additional
parking,
many
of
those
parking
garages
are
not
full,
so
people
are
tending
to
have
fewer
fewer
cars
and
one
of
the
questions
you
know,
and
and
in
certain
areas
where
there
is
resident,
only
parking
provisions
have
been
made
that
their
conditions
have
been
applied
to
the
developments
where
the
tenants
of
those
buildings
cannot
get
resident
only
parking
permits,
because
you
know
so
that
they
will
actually
lease
parking
spaces
within
their
their
buildings.
A
So
that
is
you
know.
That
is
a
question,
particularly
in
areas
like
yours,
where
there
is
not
resident
only
parking.
I
think
in
a
recent
development
which
was
in
a
similar
circumstance,
we
encouraged
residents
to
talk
to
their
aldermen
about
establishing
a
resident,
only
parking
district
which
tends
to
free
up
at
least
give
residents
of
the
street
a
fighting
chance
to
find
parking,
because
that
is
a
concern
of
ours
as
well.
I
This
might
be
obtuse
thinking,
but
what
are
the
sizes
of
the
studio,
they're
96
96
out
of
116
units
are
studios
in
one
bedrooms,
small
units
relatively.
What
are
the
sizes
of
those
units
I'll
tell
you
where
I'm
going
in
a
second.
A
J
I
They're
they're,
actually
normal
size,
studios
and
one
bedrooms.
I
I
where
I
was
going,
and
I
don't
think
it
really
applies-
is
that
this
the
trend
has
been
to
smaller
units
and
the
reason.
Why
is
because
people
can't
afford
the
rents
for
larger
units
and
so
those
people
that
that
opt
for
studios
in
one
bedrooms,
they're
opting
for
those
smaller
units
because
they
have
to
because
and
and
and
statistically
I
I
know,
other
projects
that
could
prove
this
out,
that
that
those
people
will
not
have
cars
because
they
can't
afford
it.
I
They
can
only
afford
the
small
unit
now
you're,
not
a
super
small
unit.
700
is
a
pretty
good
size
for
a
one
bedroom
and
then
five
six,
whatever
it's
for
a
studio.
But
I
think
generally
that
that
thinking
applies.
J
Absolutely-
and
I
think
in
our
case,
this
is
positioned
as
a
rental
building,
we're
not
anticipating
again
that
high
volume
of
two
cars
per
per
unit-
two
cars
per
household-
that
just
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
market.
I
think
it's
more
in
line
with
your
your
analysis
that
a
one
bedroom
or
studio
is
occupied
by
a
single
person.
Maybe
they're,
not
they
don't
have
the
funds
to
to
have
a
car
as
well.
They
don't
want
to
pay
insurance.
J
I
You
don't
know
you're
going
to
have
a
problem,
you're
just
afraid
you're
going
to
have
a
problem,
but
but
if
the
experience
of
other
neighborhoods
that
have
built
new
buildings
built
in
their
neighborhood
would
be
helpful
to
say
well
this
this
was
done
here
and
it
didn't.
It
wasn't
a
problem
or
it
was
a
problem
and
you
know
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
M
And
just
a
point
to
add
to
that
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
but
also,
I
think
what
I
would
want
to
know
is
the
occupancy
rates,
so
the
new
condos
across
the
street,
from
some
of
my
friends,
it
doesn't
look
like
there
are
many
people
living
there,
so
they
don't
have
a
parking
issue
yet,
but,
as
you
know,
as
the
residences
increase
it
would
be,
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
what
happened.
So
I
support
your
idea,
commissioner
yeah
I.
L
A
So
I
think,
with
that,
the
petitioners
staff
have
anything
else
to
add
at
this
point
all
right,
then,
I
think.
E
Before
we
close
the
record
for
the
record,
madam
chair
I'd
like
to
get
a
feel
from
my
fellow
commissioners,
we
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
information,
that's
still
kind
of
outstanding,
and
I
don't
know
how
everybody
else
feels
about
that.
You
know
we've
heard
well.
The
mechanical
will
be
addressed
later
well.
The
storage
lockers
will
be
addressed
later,
while
the
leasing
office
space
may
be
addressed
later
and
I
feel
fairly
uncomfortable
without
knowing
what's
going
on
with
some
of
those
things,
because
that
will
directly
impact.
E
I
I
Yes
and
they
will
find
a
place
on
the
roof,
and
I
I
just
don't:
okay
and
and
the
storage
is
to
me-
that's
an
internal
issue.
You
know
how
they,
how
they
manage
that
there's
a
lot
of
buildings
that
don't
have
professional
storage.
I
D
J
And
if
I
can
speak
specifically
specifically
to
that
bill
did
describe
that
the
mechanicals
are
again
of
the
lower
height,
but
also
on
what
would
be
the
true
roof
of
the
building
and
then
there's
that
19
foot
coverage.
That's
also
part
of
the
screening
component.
So
correct.
It
has
not
been
spelled
out
in
detail,
but
the
idea
or
the
concept
is
to
make
sure
that
those
units
are
screened
properly
and
that
there
is
infrastructure
on
the
on
the
top
of
the
building.
J
To
do
just
that
and
in
this
case
is
going
to
serve
multiple
uses.
But
it's
something
that
I
would
just
hope
that
the
plant
commission
keeps
in
mind
that
the
idea,
the
intent
is
to
have
those
mechanicals
that
I
think
built
at
the
61
foot
height
and
then
still
have
that
19-foot
screen
above
and
my
concern.
E
I
E
A
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we've
handled
these
and
plant
developments
in
the
past
is
there's
a
set
of
recommendations,
and
if
there's
specific
I
you
know,
I
have
a
couple
of
additions
for
the
recommendations,
one
of
which
a
construction
management
plan,
because
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
how
the
construction
is
going
to
happen.
A
Given
that
this
is
there
there's
no
alley
all
the
construction
is
going
to
have
to
happen
off
of
chicago
avenue,
and
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
more
specific
in
terms
of
the
you
know
like
the
waste
management
plan
to
include
recycling
and
composting,
and
then
we
also
need
to
deal
with
hours
of
operation,
because
you
don't
want
the
garbage
trucks
picking
up
garbage
during
rush
hour,
for
example
along
with
the
deliveries
and
the
move-in
move
out.
A
H
To
interject,
typically,
the
construction
management
plan
is
added
to
the
ordinance
that
is
required
before
staff
approves
any
building
permits,
because
you
need
to
know
the
routes
for
construction
vehicles
etc
and
just
the
general
the
timing,
and
especially
given
the
proposed
project.
That
would
be
a
major
part
of
this
particular
plan
as
well,
so
just
to
answer
that
that
would
be
a
whole
different
discussion.
That
staff
looks
at
before
approving.
A
Yeah,
but
I
I
just
think
it's
important
that
that
we
acknowledge
that
there
should
be
you
know,
is
a
planning
commission
census
after
the
city
council.
I
don't
think
it
hurts
for
us
to
add
that,
and
you
know,
while
there
is
not
a
resident
parking
permit
program
in
that
area,
I
think
also
it
would
be
helpful
as
a
matter
of
policy
to
say
if
one
isn't
get
acted,
these
units
would
not
be
eligible
for
resident
permits.
A
E
You
know
that
creates
a
bit
of
an
issue
for
something
like
that.
So
that's.
G
E
Only
reason
I'm
opposed
to
to
making
it
a
you
know
excluding
a
building
from
from
resident
only
parking.
I
understand
the
impact
that
they've
the
impact
it
can
have
on
the
neighbors,
but
I
also
want
to
be
cognizant
of
the
impact
it
can
have
on
the
people
who
actually
live
in
this
building,
because
this
is
their
home
and
and
and
they
should
be
treated
with
the
respect
of
this
being
there.
A
E
A
All
right
are
we
ready
now
to
close
testimony
and
public
hearing
and
have
our
deliberations.
I
By
the
way,
I
thought
that
was
really
good,
that
the
staff
went
through
the
standards
and
gave
their
opinion
on
it.
I
thought
I
I
hope
that
in
future
projects
you
do
that.
That
staff
does
that.
I
thought
it
was
great.
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
through
the
special
use
standards.
A
It
is
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
As
amended
from
time
to
time,
I
would
say
satisfied:
it
will
not
cause
a
cumulative,
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered,
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
on
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole
say
satisfied.
A
There
is
a
question
there
in
terms
of
the
water
main,
I
think,
is
the
only
one,
but
presumably
that
will
be
worked
out
by
staff.
A
I
think
there's
a
question
about
that,
is
it
not
satisfied?
I
mean
it
will
have
to
be
when
it's.
E
I
would
say
it's
satisfied
and
we
we
trust
our
public
works
department
that,
if
electrical,
because
I'm
guessing
they'll,
probably
have
to
pull
some
new
electrical,
possibly
for
this,
this
unit
for
this
building,
as
well
as
the
water.
So
I
would
trust
the
public
works
department
to
make
that
adjustment
as
necessary.
A
A
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources,
that's
not
applicable.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features.
It's
either
not
applicable,
or
you
know,
working
with
the
bird
friendly
design.
I
think
we
could
say
satisfied.
A
Okay,
all
right
get
to
read
this
one
standards
for
plan
developments
as
a
special
use
plan.
Development
involves
such
special
considerations
of
the
public
interest
that
it
shall
be
required
to
adhere
to
the
special
to
the
specific
plan
development
standards
established
in
the
zoning
district
in
which
it
is
located.
A
Compliance
with
the
standard
shall
govern
the
recommendations
of
the
planned
commission
applicable
to
a
planned
development
and
the
action
of
the
city
council
in
order
to
ensure
that
an
approved
plan
development
is
in
harmony
with
the
general
purposes
and
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
plan
commission
shall
not
recommend
approval
of,
nor
shall
the
city
council
approve
a
plan
development
unless
each
shall
determine
based
on
written
findings
of
fact
that
the
planned
development
satisfies
the
specific
standards
established
in
the
zoning
district,
in
which
the
plan
development
is
located,
say,
satisfied
all
right.
A
I
think
that
it
because
it
does
not,
you
know,
exceed
the
allowable
development
allowances.
This
is
satisfied.
D
D
I
personally
have
a
concern
in
the
way
the
development
is
right
up
against
the
public
right
away,
and
actually
you
know
coming
into
it
with
the
balconies.
I
understand
the
idea.
I
think
it's
an
interesting
and
creative
one.
I
just
think
at
that
location
it
it
doesn't
really
help
preserve
the
impact
or
or
the
feel
of
the
neighborhood.
D
G
A
All
right,
if.
E
D
I
think
for
me
it
is
a
make
or
break.
I
don't
think,
there's
any
reason
to
push
the
development
further
into
the
public
right
of
way
again
understanding
the
nature
of
the
architecture,
creative
process-
I
get
it.
I
am
just
thinking
of
the
impact
on
that
street
and
on
that
particular
section
of
the
street,
I
have
no
objection
to
a
very
contemporary
design.
At
that
point,
I
just
think
it
needs
to
be
respectful
for
the
streetscape
itself.
A
All
right,
each
plan
development
shall
be
completed
within
two
years
of
the
issuance
of
the
special
use
permit
for
the
planned
development.
A
A
For
all
boundaries
of
the
plant
development
immediately
budding
a
residential
property.
There
should
be
provided
a
transition,
landscape
strip
of
at
least
10
feet,
consisting
of
vegetation,
vegetative,
screening
or
decorative
walls,
in
accordance
with
the
manual
of
design,
guidelines
and
chapter
17
landscaping
and
screening.
The
transition
landscape
strip
and
and
its
treatment
shall
be
depicted
on
the
required
landscape
plan
submitted
as
part
of
the
plan
development
application.
A
Walkways
developed
for
planned
development
shall
form
a
logical,
safe
and
convenient
system
for
pedestrian
access
to
all
project
facilities,
as
well
as
any
off-site
destination
likely
to
attract
substantial
pedestrian
traffic.
Pedestrian
ways
shall
not
be
used
by
other
automobile
automotive
traffic.
I
think
that
this
is
satisfied,
particularly
since
the
applicant
is
proposing
providing
a
wider
sidewalk.
A
The
location,
construction
and
operation
of
parking
loading
areas
and
service
areas
shall
be
designed
to
avoid
adverse
impacts
on
residential
uses
within
or
joining
the
development
and,
where
possible,
provide
additional
parking
beyond
that
required
for
the
planned
development
to
service
the
business
district
in
which
it
is
located.
I
think
this
is
probably
not
satisfied.
A
G
E
It's
because
I
think
I
think
when
we
place,
I
think,
based
off
of
the
proposal
that
we
have
some
leeway
to
to
grant
it
to
make
it
met,
because
if
a
standard
is
not
met,
we
have
to
deny
a
project.
G
G
E
E
So
I
would
I
would
tend
to
say
that
this
has
been
met
and
I
also
think
it's
a
poorly
worded
standard
when
we
used
to
do
zba.
One
of
ours
was
a
substantial
adverse
impact.
I
mean
everything
you
do,
will
have
an
impact
and
it
may
be
adverse,
but
is
it
five
percent
ten
percent?
Eighty
percent.
E
I
This
is
referring
to
an
a
different
situation
right,
not
the
one
that
we
have.
I.
E
A
Shall
we
say
satisfied
then,
okay
and
then
the
principal
vehicular
access
point
shall
be
designed
to
prevent,
permit
smooth
traffic
flow
with
control,
turning
movements
and
minimum
hazards
to
vehicular
and
pedestrian
traffic.
I
would
say
this
is
satisfied
based
on
the
design,
it's
a
difficult
site
to
begin
with,
but.
A
Yes,
the
plan
development
shall
provide,
if
possible,
for
the
underground
installation
of
utilities,
including
electric
electric
electricity
and
telephone,
both
in
public
ways
and
private
extensions
thereof.
Provisions
shall
be
made
for
acceptable
design
and
construction
of
stormwater
facilities,
including
grading,
gutter,
piping,
treatment
of
turf
and
maintenance
of
facilities.
A
We
have
an
underground
vault
for
detention,
so
I
would
say
this
is
satisfied
for
every
planned
development.
There
should
be
provided
a
market
feasibility
statement
that
shall
indicate
the
consumer
market
areas
for
all
uses
proposed
in
the
development,
the
population
potential
of
the
area
and
or
or
areas
to
be
served
by
the
uses
proposed
and
other
pertinent
information
concerning
the
need
or
demand
for
such
uses
of
land.
That
is
satisfied
for
every
planned
development
involving
20
dwelling
units
or
more.
A
The
study
shall
also
show
the
amount
and
direction
of
anticipated
traffic
flow
and
clearly
describe
what
road
and
traffic
control
improvements
might
be
come
necessary
as
a
result
of
the
construction
of
the
proposed
development.
The
traffic
study
was
provided,
that
is
satisfied
and
the
zoning
administrator
may,
at
his
discretion,
require
the
of
the
applicant
additional
studies
or
impact
analyses
when
he
determines
that
a
reasonable
need
for
such
investigation
is
indicated.
I
don't
believe
any
were
required,
so
this
would
be
not
applicable.
A
M
A
A
Okay,
I
would
like
to
suggest:
do
we
need
a
motion?
First
and
then
I
I've
got
a
couple
of
of
additions.
I
would
like
to
make
or
a
you
know,
amended
language.
What's
the
best.
A
Okay,
it's
been
moved
in
second
dude.
I
would
like
to
make
the
following
suggestions
with
respect
to
the
oh,
that's
it!
A
I
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
on
item
four,
which
is
provide
a
waste
management
plan
to
include
recycling
and
compact
and
composting,
including.
A
Something,
let's
say
and
composting
with
hours
of
operation
to
minimize
traffic
impact
for
number
four.
E
I
I
would,
I
would
group
that,
together
with
the
deliveries
as
well-
yes.
G
E
And
just
to
to
make
it
that
there
would
be
a
restriction
on
trash
and
deliveries
during
rush
hours
to
avoid
impact
where
possible.
On.
A
It's
almost
really
use
use
of
the
the
loading
dock
shall
be
restricted
to
non-uh
non-rush
hour
hours
is
kind
of
where
I'm
going
with
that,
and
then
I
would
like
to
add
a
number
11,
which
is
to
provide
a
construction
management
plan
to
address
really
potential
traffic
impact
on
chicago
avenue.
A
I
was
writing
a
note.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I
want
to
add
number
11
to
provide
a
construction
management
plan
to
minimize
impact
on
chicago
avenue,
traffic.
A
G
I
E
Motion,
I
would
be
very
interested
in
and
having
staff
provide
to
city,
council
planning
and
development.
Some
of
the
questions
that
commissioner
halek
was
asking
about.
You
know:
do
we
have
information
on
parking
for
the
buildings
that
we
have
approved
and
how
that
has
has
impacted
those
neighborhoods
and
or
that
building
I
mean
if
we,
if
we
have
buildings
that
are
drastically
scaling
back
because
they
aren't
being
used.
E
A
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
specifically
related
to
this
development,
these
recommendations
and
conditions
are
specifically
related.
I
agree
that
we
should
be
looking
at
that,
but
I'm
not
I.
E
I
don't
know
why
I
can't
make
that
a
part
of
the
conditions
for
this
particular
development.
I
mean
we
can
do
it
for
all
of
them
in
the
future,
and
then
I
don't
necessarily
need
these
to
be
conditions
in
my
I
won't
make
these
in,
but
I
would
love
to
to
to
have
the
developer
look
into
some
of
the
other
questions
that
came
up
just
so
you're
prepared.
You
know
to
address
some
of
the
things
with
mechanicals
with
the
leasing
office
with
storage
lockers
things
like
that.
E
I
So
you've
grouped
all
of
these
in
into
one.
That
would
be
the
only
one
that
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
last
one:
the
balcony
issue,
the
others
I
I
would
agree
with,
but
I'll
go
along
with
it.
If
that's
the
majority.
E
E
G
E
E
Plan,
I'm
sorry
and
cons
and
that
that
pay
particular
attention
to
the
streetscape
plans
that
are
going
on
and
that
staff
provide
to
a
city,
council,
planning
and
development
committee.
E
L
B
A
A
Pass.
Thank
you.
That
concludes
this
item.
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
and
we
still
have
one
item
on
our
agenda.
We
need
to
elect
a
vice
chair.
I
Can
I
ask
a
question
about
that,
because
we're
supposedly
going
to
merge
with
the
other
group
and
no
one
has
said
because
I've
I've
asked
you
know
how
the
leadership
of
that
group
is
going.
That
combined
group
is
going
to
be
determined,
and
I
also
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
happen.
I
H
So
those
are
very
valid
questions.
I
think,
given
the
the
timing
for
everything
and
what's
been
going
on,
currently,
we
probably
would
not
see
a
full
combination
of
the
two
until
january
of
2022.,
so
electing
a
vice
chair
would
essentially
be
for
a
few
months,
just
in
case
chillin
was
unable
to
make
it
if.