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City of Evanston Plan Commission Meeting - 07/17/2013
B
A
D
B
The
comprehensive
plan
subcommittee
has
been
meeting
for
a
year
on
a
regular
basis,
doing
a
lot
of
reading
about
comprehensive
planning,
and
it
has
reached
some
conclusions
which
we
thought
would
be
appropriate
to
share
with
the
full
commission
so
absent.
The
full
commission
will
share
it
with
those
who
are
here.
I
have
a
PowerPoint
slide
that
summarizes
it
and.
D
A
F
B
B
Plans
made
from
1972
until
recently
express
people's
desire
for
what
they
wanted
for
their
community,
but
often
didn't
take
into
account
the
lack
of
resources
and
the
need
for
trade-offs,
and,
starting
about
the
year
two
thousand
two
thousand
five.
There
was
a
recognition
that
the
municipal
resources
are
not
endless
and
certain
consumptions
made
by
the
committee
together
with
that
recognition
are
shown
on
the
screen.
The
plan
is
about
improving
the
community,
the
objective
isn't
a
good
plan,
but
a
good
community,
and
we
have
to
deal
with
trados.
B
B
The
zoning
changes
permit
consideration
of
one
proposal
at
a
time.
Either
it's
only
change
or
a
PUD
and
usually
what's
emphasized,
are
the
needs
of
those
living
near
the
property.
The
opinion
of
the
relevant
alderman,
a
comprehensive
plan
allows
consideration
of
evanston
citywide
needs
and
it
allows
the
city
to
respond
to
expected
changes
in
the
environment
before
they
happen.
B
B
This
slide
shows
the
typical
chapters
in
a
traditional
plan
that
might
have
been
developed
anywhere
in
the
US
from
1972,
when
the
federal
government
began
funding
plans
until
about
10
15
years
ago,
and
our
two
most
recent
comprehensive
plans
pretty
much
fit
this
kind
of
organization
and
you
can
find
support
for
almost
anything
somewhere
in
that
plan.
So
when
we
get
to
the
point
in
a
zoning
hearing,
is
it
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan?
It'll
always
be
consistent
with
part
of
the
plan
and
inconsistent
with
other
parties?
B
The
status
under
Illinois
law
of
neighborhood
plans
is
not
entirely
clear
unless
they're
incorporated
to
the
citywide
comprehensive
plan,
so
part
of
the
task
will
be
to
incorporate
the
neighborhood
plans.
When
I
made
a
presentation
to
the
console
almost
identical
to
what
I'm
explaining
tonight,
one
of
the
councilman
was
a
Councilwoman
pointed
out.
We
need
to
look
at
the
neighborhood
plans
and
see
if
they're
still
appropriate,
so
we
have
undertaken
that
exercise
and
will
continue
to
and
we'll
bring
that
to
the
full
commission.
B
So
the
plan
will
be
organized
around
goals.
Chapter
titles
might
include
things
like
maintaining
and
increasing
manufacturing
jobs,
responding
to
the
land-use
preferences
of
Gen,
X
and
Gen
Y
the
differ
from
those
of
the
soon
to
be
aging
baby
boom
cohort,
preserving
development
space
in
providing
infrastructure
to
support
economic
development.
B
B
For
the
last
40
years
have
demonstrated
a
preference
at
least
many
of
them
for
wide
longs,
low
density
suburbs,
where
uses
are
separated
and
access
to
amenities
or
work
required,
a
trip
in
the
car.
As
the
baby
boomers
age,
a
substantial
proportion
have
and
will
be
giving
up
the
wire
lawns
and
low
density
suburbs
and
looking
for
a
community
where
less
driving
is
needed
and
where
the
costs
associated
with
a
wide
widely
separated
uses
are
high.
The
retirees
want
costs
are
lower.
B
The
Gen,
X
and
Gen
Y
cohort
groups
have
radically
different
residential
preferences
about
sixty
percent
are
similar
to
the
baby
bars,
but
their
economic
status
is
not
as
clear
due
to
very
heavy
educational
debt,
and
forty
percent
of
them
prefer
age-friendly
communities
with
public
transportation
and
lots
of
options
for
housing,
lifelong
learning,
robust
arts
and
culture.
Walkability.
D
B
B
B
Preserving
manufacturing
jobs
is
is
particularly
important
here
and,
and
I
have
seen
the
figure
of
5,000
jobs,
non
retail,
commercial
and
manufacturing
jobs
in
evanston
I.
Think
it's
not
clear
that
it's
accurate,
but
if
it
is,
we
want
to
maintain
it.
We
want
to
try
and
have
economic
development
for
people
with
differing
skills
and
also
to
improve
the
physical
health
of
the
city.
B
B
So
the
second
phase
is
getting
feedback
on
the
draft
plan.
Hopefully
we
can
do
that
in
the
winter,
revise
it
for
early
spring,
hold
formal
public
hearings
and
by
late
spring
or
summer
of
14
2014,
it
would
be
submitted
proved
by
the
plan
commission
and
submitted
to
the
council
to
whatever
fate
it
waits
it.
B
B
Is
a
committee
of
the
american
planning
association
that
has
been
meeting
for
three
years
for
the
purpose
of
assessing
comprehensive
plans
and
their
implementation,
and
I
will
send
some
of
their
material
of
the
particularly
the
items
you
don't
have
to
pay
for
so
they
can
be
posted
and
at
least
you
can
see
some
of
it.
That's
a
good
idea.
B
C
I've
always
sort
of
looked
at
the
the
comprehensive
plan
as
a
as
a
guide
and
I
am
NOT.
A
member
of
the
of
the
plan
commission
subcommittee
are
the
the
comprehensive
plan
subcommittee,
so
I'm
shooting
a
little
bit
from
the
hip
here,
but
I
get
a
sense
that
you
don't
want
the
new
version
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
be
a
guide
you're,
looking
at
it
more
as
a
as
a
blueprint
going
forward.
Is
that
correct,
I.
B
B
B
So
if
you
think
about
the
main
street
chicago
avenue
area
and
the
main
street
area
west
of
chicago
avenue,
it
calls
for
many
things,
but
you
can't
develop
in
all
ways.
If
you
start
increasing
the
density
and
making
sure
you
have
parking
and
amenities,
so
there's
no
interference
with
the
neighborhood
to
the
east.
B
Then
it
can't
be
developed.
I'm
talking
about
five
minute,
walk
from
the
station,
not
not
a
big
area.
It
can't
be
developed
consistent
with
the
pictures
in
the
in
the
right
and
left
because,
because
the
densities
are
higher
so
and
often
I
think
evanston
development,
optimal
development
for
Evanston
won't
be
the
same
in
all
places,
so
North,
West,
Evanston
central
street
would
be
developed
and
have
developed
differently
than
Chicago
area,
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
would
provide
more
guidance
and
I'm,
not
criticizing
the
two
prior
plans.
Indeed,
I
worked
on.
A
B
C
B
People
suggest
otherwise,
I
think,
ultimately
we
haven't
had
the
process
yet,
but
I
think
ultimately
the
conclusion
will
be.
The
central
street
plan
should
be
incorporated
almost
verbatim
and
downtown
we've
gone
through
this
extensive
process,
and
I
think
that
one
too
would
be
incorporated
for
Batum
Chicago
Avenue
study,
which
technically
isn't
a
plan,
is
a
study
because
the
council
hasn't
adopted
it.
B
B
I
would
incorporate
it
by
reference
eat
unless
we
discover
that
things
such
as
what
we
found
on
Chicago
Avenue,
where
the
events
on
the
ground
have
are
now
make
parts
of
the
plan
obsolete,
alderman
rainy,
suggested.
We
look
pretty
carefully
at
all
the
plans,
but,
having
looked
at
some
of
them,
I
think
they
can
be
incorporated
by
reference
and
and
then
in
terms
of
a
zoning
hearing.
If
we
have
things
contested,
the
legal
status
would
be
much
more
clear.
You'll.
C
Forgive
me
for
taking
potshots
and
I
and
I
am
definitely
shooting
from
the
hip,
because
I
have
just
perused
your
memo
and-
and
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
keep
keep
going
here,
and
I
remember
the
downtown
play
and
took
about
three
years
so
don't
feel
any
urgency
here
to
to
get
through
it
in
a
fixed
number
of
months.
These
things
take
a
lot
of
time.
What.
A
You
know
just
to
address
some
of
Stewart's
concern.
We
went
over
the
say,
for
instance,
the
West
evanston
plan
and
a
lot
of
what
we
found
and
we
had
several
people
looking
at.
It
was
just
upgrades
things
that
that
needed
to
be
brought
up
to
date.
There
were
some
changes,
it
were
references
made.
There
were
references
made
to
national
louis
university
as
being
one
of
the
educational
facilities
difference.
It
was
a
matter
of
editing
it
out,
but
I,
don't
remember
anything
that
was
really
a
structural
or
major
change.
A
E
E
How
we
go
about
disseminating
the
information
in
terms
of
on
the
internet
and
really
making
it
a
document
that
people
will
that
they
can
read
that
they
can
use
and
that
they
can
understand,
because
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
stood
out
to
me
and
in
reviewing
what
was
you
know,
the
the
existing
comprehensive
plan
and
looking
at
some
of
the
other
plans
that
Evanston
has
so,
hopefully
that's
something
that
it
will
be
addressing
because
I
don't
really
think
it's
there.
I
mean
I've
kind
of
indicated,
it's
kind
of
a
futile
exercise.
E
B
One
of
the
one
of
the
changes
in
planning
style
in
the
style
for
comprehensive
plans
is,
is
to
have
action
items
and
that's
that
wasn't
done
so
and
and
preferably
you
might
have
a
set
of
preferences,
some
of
which
appear
to
be
attainable
and
some
of
which
would
be
very
difficult
to
attain.
So
so,
for
example,
there
was
a
community
in
New
York
adopting
a
new
style
plan
and
they
were
pretty
much
cut
off
from
the
world.
B
The
plan
recognizes
that
the
City
Council
and
almost
all
the
population
would
like
an
interstate
and
then
the
plan
goes
on
to
recognize
that
that's
unlikely
and
it
provides
some
alternative
connections
to
the
rest
of
the
world
beyond
the
to
track
that
existed
there.
So
we
may
find
that
there
are
things
we
would
like
to
do
in
evanston.
B
B
I
think
this
city
and
and
I'm
wanting
to
do
not
criticize
the
earlier
plans.
I
think
the
planning
and
the
government
affairs
in
evanston
that
affect
land
use
have
made
this
city
thrive
in
a
way
that
other
inner
ring
suburbs
haven't.
Yes,
we
have
the
University
and
like,
but
this
is
a
remarkable
success
story
and
and
I
think
the
public
sector
and
citizen
participation
had
a
lot
to
do
with
it.
So
I
hope.
D
C
F
Another
thing
that
was
encouraging
to
me
was
that
there
there
seems
to
be
now
I
mean
that
the
city
has
been
working
towards
trying
to
implement
more
office
occupancy
and
transportation
nodes.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
this
kind
of
an
article
can
do
nothing
but
encourage
that
kind
of
development,
maybe
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
whether
it
be
you
know,
Main,
Street
or
other
other
transportation
nodes,
and,
to
my
mind,
that
can
only
be
a
good
thing.
I.
B
B
C
C
B
C
D
B
D
Having
been
one
of
the
few
people
who
showed
up
at
downtown
plan
almost
all
the
time
there
was
a
feeling
at
those
meetings,
even
though
they
started
at
seven
thirty
in
the
morning
that
the
public
was
always
welcome
and
it
was
out
there
on
the
airwaves
that
the
public
was
always
welcome.
Repeated
announced
talked
about
it
community
meetings
and
such
even
though
people
didn't
show
up,
and
so
many
times
is.
It
happened
with
me
of
the
people
in
my
area
who
were
interested
but
went
to
work
early
and
I.
D
Didn't
I
got
tapped
to
be
the
one
to
show
up,
and
a
couple
of
us
did
that
and
then
we
share
the
information,
but
this
I
think
what
you
have
to
have
you
have
to
have
is
the
sense
that
goes
out
that
you
want
people
to
come
and
you
want
and
they're
welcome
and
they're
invited,
and
they
know
it's
happening,
whether
they
show
or
not.
That's
up
to
them.