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A
We
will
start
by
staff
presenting
presenting
the
case
and
an
outline
form,
and
then
the
petitioner
will
present
their
their
case
next.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
public
knew
to
to
ask
questions
now.
This
is
strictly
ask
questions
about
the
evidence
presented
this
not
a
time
for
making
comment.
You
will
have
that
opportunity
later,
so
so
yeah
so
so.
A
A
Institution,
you
will
have
six
minutes
to
to
present
in
that
in
that
time
period.
If
you
agree
with
someone
else,
there's
a
lot
of
people
here
and
will
be
here
all
night.
If,
if
you're
just
reiterating
the
case,
that's
been
made
by
someone
else,
you're
welcome
to
come
up
and
say:
I
agree
with
so-and-so
and
try
to
please
keep
it
short.
A
It's
nice
to
hear
that
you,
you
reaffirm
that,
but
in
the
interest
of
keeping
things
going,
we
appreciate
that
the
process
will
be
that
that
we
will
read
and
the
order
submitted
on
the
sign-in
sheet.
So
if
you're
going
to
speak
tonight,
you
have
to
have
signed
in
I
will
call
you
in
the
order
presented
you.
You
must
come
to
the
microphone
to
speak
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please
right
after
that.
After
that,
we'll.
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E
F
G
A
H
Good
evening,
mr.
chairman
and
commissioners,
members
of
the
public,
this
item
is
a
requested
planned
development
and
special
use
for
a
project
at
12:15.
Church
Street,
the
applicant
is
the
YWCA
I
will
give
a
brief
summary
of
the
project
and
some
of
the
development
allowances,
site
development,
ounces,
they're
being
requested
for
the
project,
and
then
the
applicant
will
follow
up
with
the
presentation
of
their
project
following
that.
Allow
the
zoo
field
available
for
questions
as
well.
H
So
the
proposal
on
the
South
portion
of
the
property
is
to
demolish
the
existing
domestic
violence,
shelter,
which
is
buildings
attached
to
the
central
aquatics
and
activity
building
within
the
the
site.
It
was
originally
a
single
family
structure
and
replaced
that
by
constructing
a
two-story
entrance
with
a
second-story
connection
across
the
the
central
portion
of
site
to
the
northern
building
addition,
that's
proposed.
Additional
improvements
on
the
southern
portion
of
site
include
improvements
to
the
parking
lot
with
additional
parking
spaces,
landscaping,
a
drop-off
area
and
improved
vehicular
circulation
on
the
northern
portion
of
site.
H
So
a
special
use
is
required
and,
as
existing
special
use
is,
is
existing
for
the
community
center
and
recreation
center
do
the
expansion,
a
new
special
use
request
is
before
you,
here's
a
site
plan
showing
the
proposed
new
site
plan
and
a
summary
of
the
site,
development
allowances
that
are
requested.
There
are
five,
so
psyched,
11
ounces,
they're
requested
for
parking
location
within
the
front
yard
setback,
that's
on
Church,
Street
for
a
loading
birth
location.
H
That's
within
the
West's
interior
side
yard,
setback
for
pervious
coverage
of
about
75%,
where
55%
is
allowed
a
building
height
of
four
stories
and
forty-two
point
four
feet
for
the
the
shelter
addition
we're
35
feet
is
allowed
within
the
are
four
district.
An
additional
12
feet
is
allowed
as
a
site
development
allowance
and
for
a
none,
enclosed
loading
berth
this
with
in
the
side,
yard
and
front
yard.
H
After
a
plank
commission
deliberation,
the
following
standards
will
be
considered
by
the
commissioners
and
making
a
recommendation
on
this
item
to
the
City
Council.
These
are
the
standards
for
special
uses,
standards
for
plan
developments
and
standards
and
guidelines
for
plan
development,
specifically
within
the
are
four
general
residential
district.
We'll
go
through
these
slides
and
in
detail
later
on
in
the
meeting
and.
H
Finally,
staff
is
recommending
approval
so
recommends
if
the
plan
commission
make
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
for
the
approval
of
the
plan,
development
and
special
uses
with
the
following
conditions,
once
the
applicant
continued
to
work
on
the
aesthetic
design
of
the
building
additions
that
the
applicant
agreed
to
a
construction
management
plan
and
that
the
plan
development
be
a
substantial
conformity
to
the
documents
and
testimony
on
record.
That
concludes
a
summary
of
the
staff
presentation
available
for
questions
later
on.
Thank
you.
I
Architect.
We
are
very
pleased
to
be
before
you
this
evening
with
the
approval
of
the
Preservation
Commission
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
both
the
proposed
demolition
and
construction
activity.
As
well
as
recommendations
of
approval
by
both
staff
and
ever
it's
Scott
just
noted,
the
request
before
you
this
evening
is
for
a
special
use
to
allow
expansion
and
related
redevelopment
of
the
YWCA
campus
and
secondarily
for
plan
development
approval
in
accordance
with
the
plans
and
exhibits
that
have
been
submitted
and
included
with
your
meeting
packet.
I
And
then,
of
course,
there
are
the
Associated
site
developmental
houses,
that
staff
also
identified,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
those
I'm
happy
to
discuss
them.
To
whatever
extent
you
you
desire,
but
just
quickly
again,
they
pertain
to
parking
within
the
required
front
yard
parking
within
the
west
side
yard,
increased,
a
pervious,
surface,
increased
building,
height
and
open
loading
zone.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
mention
those
quickly
is
because
it's
important
to
note
that
all,
but
one
of
those
allowances
is
actually
a
product
of
existing
site
conditions.
I
J
I
There's
like
a
light
here,
I
think
or
something:
oh,
this
it
well,
regardless
I'll
just
try
to
describe
to
the
best
of
my
ability.
So
looking
at
the
three
Lots
that
are
reflected
in
the
red
boundary
on
the
aerial
photo
here.
The
southernmost
largest
lot
contains
the
majority
of
the
site,
improvements
that
function
as
the
YWCA
facilities.
I
In
fact,
that
lot
is
actually
the
original
lot
established
or
owned
and
established
by
the
YWCA
since
1969
the
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
describe
without
a
laser
pointer,
but
the
bulk
of
the
improvements
building
related
improvements
on
that
site
again,
I'm
speaking
only
to
the
southernmost
light.
The
largest
lot
contain
the
existing
administration
in
pool
facilities
that
building
in
its
entirety
is
proposed
to
remain
the
only
building
that
is
proposed
to
be
demolished
on.
I
So
the
only
site
development
allowance-
this
is
not
directly
tied
to
site
constraints,
is
building
height
and
it's
important
to
note
that
the
building
height
allowance
that
saw
it
actually
will
result
in
a
building
height.
That
is
several
feet
below
the
existing
building
height
already
established
on
the
site
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
again
looking
at
that
larger
building
that
I
reference
on
the
southernmost
lot.
I
K
Thank
you
good
evening.
As
Steve
said,
my
name
is
Shabnam
sangli
I've
been
in
evanston
resident
for
the
past
20
years,
and
my
husband
and
I
have
had
the
privilege
to
raise
our
three
daughters
in
this
community.
Throughout
my
time
here,
I've
been
an
active
community
member
and
currently
I
serve
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
YWCA
Evanston
North
Shore.
K
It's
my
pleasure
and
my
honor
to
be
before
you
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
value
that
the
YWCA
adds
to
the
quality
of
life
in
Evanston
and
I'd,
also
like
to
share
the
unanimous,
enthusiastic
commitment
of
our
board
of
directors
to
this
important
project,
a
project
which
we
believe
will
support
the
growth
of
our
impact
for
decades
to
come.
The
YWCA
Evanston
North
Shore
started
here
in
1931
over
the
past
88
years,
we've
grown
to
an
organization
which
impacts
over
20,000
lives
per
year.
K
We
support
the
health,
safety
and
economic
advancement
of
women,
girls
and
families,
and
we
work
towards
racial
and
gender
equity.
Our
work
is
done
through
a
combination
of
direct
services,
training
and
advocacy.
We
serve
over
800
community
members.
Yearly
in
our
prehensile
domestic
violence
programs
providing
emergency
shelter,
long-term
housing,
counseling
and
legal
advocacy.
K
Additionally,
we
serve
over
2,000
students
in
the
district,
65
and
district
202
to
provide
education
and
healthy
relationship
training.
We
offer
financial
education
as
well
as
employment
and
housing
support
to
help
women
and
families
achieve
economic
stability.
Our
equity
Institute
touches
thousands
of
community
members
each
year
through
education
and
advocacy
work,
and
our
first-rate
aquatics
program
provides
accessible
and
affordable
water
safety
instruction
to
over
2,000
youth
annually.
K
Throughout
all
of
our
work,
the
YWCA
reflects
that
broader
commitment
which
evan
stone
Ian's,
like
myself,
share
for
eliminating
racism
and
empowering
women.
Finally,
I
would
like
to
emphasize
that
our
board
is
committed
to
our
long
standing
and
deep
roots
here
in
Evanston.
We
believe
that
the
essential
mission,
the
critical
education
and
services
that
we
bring
deserve
a
facility
which
reflects
the
value
of
the
work
being
done
and
respects
the
dignity
of
those
who
access
our
programs
and
services.
All
of
this
without
any
negative
impact
to
neighborhood
neighboring
neighboring
property
owners.
K
As
such,
we
want
to
create
a
space
that
will
be
an
anchor
for
our
growing
work
for
the
betterment
of
society
and
a
place
which
truly
engages
others
in
making
a
community
where
we
all
can
thrive.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
consideration.
It
is
now
my
pleasure
to
introduce
our
CEO
Karen
singer,
so
she
can
provide
some
background
and
insight
regarding
the
redevelopment
project
being
presented
this
evening.
L
L
So
those
original
our
original
facility
has
served
us
well,
but
in
the
past
decade
we
have
grown
exponentially.
We
have
launched
or
expanded
14
new
impact
areas
to
better
serve
our
community.
Our
budget
has
increased
a
hundred
and
13%.
Our
staff
has
grown
70%
and
we
serve
almost
40%
more
women,
families
and
community
members,
through
our
education
and
training
programs
to
achieve
racial
equity
and
violence
against
women
and
help
women
achieve
financial,
economic
security.
And
yet
our
physical
footprint
is
the
exact
same
as
it
was
50
years
ago.
L
We
are
simply
out
of
space
and
can
no
longer
provide
the
quality
of
programs
and
services
our
community
needs
and
deserves.
So.
As
a
result,
our
Board
undertook
a
very
thoughtful
and
very
intentional
assessment
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
to
evaluate
whether
or
not
to
stay
in
Evanston
or
to
leave.
We
did
not
take
that
lightly.
We
looked
at
many
factors
and
talked
to
dozens
of
community
members
and
partners
and
even
conducted
a
formal
feasibility
study
laying
out
several
different
scenarios.
L
The
conclusion
was
resounding:
stay
in
Evanston,
deepen
our
long-standing
history
and
legacy
here,
renovate
our
campus
to
expand
our
ability
to
meet
our
mission
and
the
needs
of
our
community.
So
it
is
clear
to
us
that,
in
order
to
do
more
and
be
more
for
our
community,
we
must
renovate
and
expand
the
campus
to
move
into
our
future
and
continue
our
mission
for
the
benefit
of
the
community,
and
that
is
what
has
brought
us
to
this
moment
in
time.
L
L
I
should
note
that
we
turn
away
a
thousand
women
and
children
every
year
from
our
domestic
violence,
shelter
due
to
let
do
to
shelter
constraints
and
limited
capacity
and
expand
our
community-based
services
for
women
and
families
to
renovate
our
current
facility
to
accelerate
our
role
as
a
leader
in
advance,
racial
and
gender
equity
by
providing
more
education
and
training
rooms
for
our
expanded
financial,
education
and
job
training,
workshops,
housing
assistance
and
equity,
trainings
and
three
to
upgrade
our
Aquatic
Center.
To
maintain
a
first-rate
aquatics
facility,
teaching
all
youth
in
our
community
how
to
swim.
I
I
I
Second,
is
the
construction
of
a
two-story
entryway
on
the
South
building
elevation,
which
is
why
I
just
described,
and
we
have
some
renderings
of
that
to
help
you
understand
more
specifically,
what
is
contemplated
I
think
you
also
have
building
elevations
in
your
packet.
Third
is
construction
of
a
four-story
domestic
violence,
shelter
in
community
center
building,
which
is
shown
on
the
north
side
of
the
site,
where
indicated
by
the
mouse
pointer.
I
Fifth,
is
expansion
and
reconfiguration
of
that
south
parking
field
as
I
sort
of
referenced
earlier
for
purposes
of
adding
additional
parking
and
affording
improved
site
circulation?
I
should
note
that
the
addition
of
parking
is
quite
important
because,
while
what
is
proposed-
and
it
is
an
excess
of
what
is
required
by
code,
the
YW
frequently
encounters
a
parking
supply
shortage
as
a
result
of
the
high
level
of
attendance
for
its
programs
and
then
last
but
not
least,
is
the
construction
of
the
new
North
field.
I
I
M
Hey
miss
Turner's.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'm
really
gonna
struggle
without
the
pointer,
so
it's
kind
of
a
way
of
talking
and
I
apologize.
There
may
be
some
overlap
with
these
great
introductions
that
have
already
happened,
but
I'll
try
to
kind
of
quickly
move
through
and
kind
of.
Let
you
understand,
what's
gonna
be
happening
in
the
new
building
and
the
existing
building.
M
So
first,
our
mandate
and
goals
were
to
expand
and
optimize
the
domestic
violence,
housing
and
supportive
service
programs
to
grow
and
improve
the
staff,
space
and
supportive
service
space
to
expand
the
ability
to
have
public
and
educational
events
for
the
organization,
improve
aquatics
for
both
patrons
and
staff
and
then
provide
a
new
face
and
outward
impression
of
the
Y
to
the
larger
community,
starting
in
the
south.
Lot,
we've
reconfigured
the
parking
to
respond
to
the
overlapping
uses
and
drop-off
and
different
populations
that
are
using
the
building
at
different
times.
M
We're
going
to
do
some
more
green
space
into
the
parking
lot
and
the
existing
curb
cut
remains
on
that
side.
We're
expanding
the
stormwater
retention
to
meet
city
requirements,
we're
preserving
large,
thriving
trees
and
we're
adding
20-plus
trees
to
that
portion
of
the
site
and
we're
also
creating
a
large
Plaza
with
exterior
seating
and
just
a
place
for
people
to
mix
when
they're
not
inside
the
facility
at
the
north
lot.
This
parking
space
is
mostly
dedicated
to
the
Divi
Center
and
shelter.
M
M
Really
quickly
run
through
the
plans
in
the
basement,
we
will
be
rehabbing
the
existing
men's
locker
room
and
adding
to
family
and
gender-neutral,
changing
spaces
and
bathrooms
at
the
first
floor
to
the
south.
This
is
where
my
pointers
necessary:
we've
kind
of
created
a
new
entry
space
and
expanded
the
lobby
to
allow
for
more
weighting
and
mixing
again
in
that
space,
the
pools
will
remain
mostly
the
same
with
just
some
mechanical
improvements
to
improve
air
quality
and
some
kind
of
surface
paint
and
those
sort
of
improvements.
M
M
At
the
second
floor,
this
is
where
you
start
to
see
that
bridge
piece
that
links
from
the
new
entry
over
to
the
new
four-story
portion
of
the
building.
At
that
level,
you
see
the
admin
space
that
Karen
had
mentioned
had
expanded.
You
know
to
pretty
great
degree,
and
this
gives
them
some
open
office.
Space
shared
office,
space,
a
lounge
space
and
it
just
improves
all
of
the
kind
of
day-to-day
services
in
the
building.
M
Those
spaces
currently
are
disconnected
there
in
three
or
four
different
spots
in
the
building
and
we're
really
kind
of
bringing
everybody
together
in
the
existing
three-story
building.
You
see
two
classrooms
and
and
some
more
open
offices
for
a
Institute
and
then
the
what
we're
calling
the
boardroom
space
is
up
above
that
existing
or
that
new
entry
piece
to
the
south
of
there
third
floor.
You
see
three
more
classrooms
that
can
be
expanded
into
an
even
larger
kind
of
community
meeting
space
or
for
large
events
that
the
Y
hosts.
M
M
We're
trying
to
give
a
new
outward
face,
a
ridge
and
church
facing
piece
here.
We've
got
planters
and
benches
bike
racks,
the
mass
at
the
front
of
the
building
kind
of
ramps
up
again
to
sort
of
pull
people
in
we're,
picking
up
a
little
bit
on
the
modernity
of
that
kind
of
late,
sixties,
early
seventies.
M
Building
that
we're
attaching
to,
and
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
view,
you
get
a
sense
of
the
new
four-story
portion
of
the
building,
we're
wide
open
again
at
the
corner,
and
this
is
where
we
have
kind
of
classroom
spaces
and
shared
office
spaces.
So
there's
a
really
outward
feel
to
towards
bridge
and
then,
as
you
get
up
into
the
more
private
spaces
of
the
residences,
the
building
starts
to
close
in
a
bit,
but
the
main
goal
was
to
kind
of
match
the.
M
And
I
think
that's
that's
it.
As
Scott
said
we're.
We've
agreed
to
keep
working
on
the
exterior
we've
heard
some
comments
about
materiality
form,
and
that's
one
of
the
caveats
of
the
PD
is
that
we'll
continue
to
kind
of
work
with
staff
on
that
we've
also
heard
about
site
lighting
from
some
of
the
neighbors,
and
we
will
be
sensitive
to
that.
Currently,
it's
lit
off
of
walls,
we're
gonna,
go
to
more
of
a
down
lit
design
and
we'll
be
able
to
show
that
to
the
neighbors.
M
I
I'm
gonna
speak
very
quickly
in
the
interest
of
time
out
of
respect
for
the
Commission
and
as
courtesy
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
but
I
just
want
to
mention
a
couple
of
things
that
are
not
necessarily
readily
apparent
from
a
cursory
review
or
a
quick
glance
of
this
site
plan
relative
to
the
new
domestic
violence,
shelter
and
community
center
building
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
I.
I
North
of
excuse
me,
west
of
the
building
that
I
just
described
that
four-story
proposed
new
building
is
a
area.
That's
essentially
devoted
for
private
use
for
the
residents
of
the
domestic
violence,
shelter,
which
is,
as
you
can
imagine
important,
given
the
discrete
nature
of
that
operation
again,
I
think
I'll.
Stop
in
the
interest
of
time
happy
to
address
any
questions
you
may
have
certainly
don't
want
to
be
redundant,
given
the
extensive
and
detailed
staff
report,
but
just
to
close
quickly
and
sort
of
on
the
heels
of
what
Jack
mentioned
you
know.
I
Needless
to
say,
we
have
reviewed
the
staff
report
as
well
as
the
proposed
conditions
of
approval,
we're
pleased
to
have
received
staffs
recommendation
of
approval
relative
specifically
to
condition
number
one
as
Jack
kind
of
referenced.
We're
well
aware
of
the
fact
that
there
have
been
some
recent
concerns
or
comments
raised
by
area
residents
relative
to
building
aesthetic.
I
Just
to
kind
of
give
some
well
over
the
context
to
that
there
have,
by
our
account,
then
at
least
seven
meetings
with
neighborhood
groups
or
meaning
immediately
adjacent
property
owners
at
one
time,
as
well
as
individual
one-on-one
meetings
with
certain
of
those
adjacent
property
owners.
So
with
that
I
will
stop
afford
you
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions.
You
may
have
and
respectfully
request
your
recommendation
of
approval.
A
N
Guess
this
is
a
question
for
staff,
given
that
the
public,
the
neighbors,
have
made
comments
about
the
aesthetics
of
the
building,
and
the
comment
was
that
the
group
is
going
to
continue
to
work
with
staff.
How
did
the
meet?
How
what's
the
process
out
of
the
neighbors?
How
are
the
neighbors
satisfied
that
whatever
comes
out
of
these
meetings
with
the
staff
is
going
to
be
you.
N
H
Yes,
yes,
and
so
this
is
one
step
in
the
process.
Plant
Commission
makes
a
recommendation
on
to
planning
development
committee
that
recommends
the
City
Council
and
then
following.
If
the
plan
development
were
to
be
approved,
following
that,
the
designer
project
review
committee
would
also
review
again
before
a
showing
a
building
permit.
So.
A
C
H
Was
a
suggestion
by
staff
and
the
applicants
followed
up
as
a
public
benefit
to
remove
those
the
concern
being
rich
Avenue,
as
we
all
know,
is
a
very
busy
roadway
and
a
mid-block
crossing
or
having
people
stop
on
Ridge
Avenue
to
let
pedestrians
out
to
the
stairs
mid
block
would
not
be
a
safe
condition.
Okay,.
H
C
A
H
N
If
the
front
yard
was
on
Ridge
I
understand
that
that
the
staff
has
designated
churches
the
front
as
the
front
yard,
but
that's
because
the
doorway
face
or
the
entrance
is
sort
of
facing
that
way,
but
I
think
one
could
argue
that
the
the
front
yard
is
actually
Ridge
and
therefore
22
setback
27
feet.
I
just
think
there
could
be
an
argument
for
that.
A
P
L
That's
an
excellent
question
and
we
grappled
with
that
for
a
long
time
how
big
to
expand
to
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
balance
that
we
were
hoping
to
achieve
with
the
building,
and
that
is
still
to
make
it
a
welcoming
environment
that
is
non-institutional
in
nature
and
in
feel,
and
we
felt
if
we
went
bigger,
we
would
lose
some
of
that.
It
also
required
a
lot
more
staffing,
which
would
have
required
a
lot
more
resources.
So
there
was
a
kind
of
balance
that
we
were
hoping
to
achieve
with
all
those
things
yeah.
So.
A
F
A
Q
F
M
At
that
back
corner
northwest
corner
we're
25
feet
still
from
the
property
line
there
as
far
as
that
from
prop
from
other
buildings,
I.
Don't
have
that.
Imagine
that
and
then
we're
even
further
from
you
know.
The
the
piece
that
comes
out
at
an
angle
is
a
single-story
in
the
four
storey
portion
comes
up
that
flat
wall.
A
Are
there,
commissioner,
questions
all
right,
so
I
I
have
at
least
a
couple,
so
so
this
is
partially
within
a
historic
and
district
as
I
understand
and
the
demolition
is
of
the
existing
residential
structure
is
within
that
area
and,
as
I
understand,
you've
gotten
approvals
from
the
propria
district
people.
So
so
what
I
am
a
little
concerned?
A
A
little
wondering
how
the
relationship
of
the
facility
fronting
that
historic
district
is
so
on
a
factual
numerical
basis,
I
see
you're
actually
encroaching
less
toward
the
street.
Do
you
know
how
far
how
much
further
back
you
are
from
it
I
mean
you're
kind
of
changing
the
character
of
the
street
from
having
a
residential
structure
facing
a
residential
district
to
having
a
more
institutional
structure.
So
so
I'm
wondering
how
that's
kind
of
its
mitigated
a
little
bit
by
having
public
space
and
softness,
but
you're
also
coming
back
some
distance
further.
Is
that
like
yeah?
I
Guess
we'll
take
this
together
that
works
for
you,
first
and
foremost,
in
response
to
your
comment,
jaren,
if
you
look
at
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
there's
a
red
line,
that's
denoted
that
sort
of
bisects
the
site
in
an
east-west
fashion.
That
is
the
boundary
line
that
separates
what
is
in
the
register
district
from
what
is
not
so
if
you
turn
your
page
counterclockwise,
so
that
the
site
plan
is
facing
north,
what
is
south
of
that
line
is
in
the
district
was
north
of
that
line
is
not
under.
M
And
just
I
don't
have
that
number
with
me
I'm,
looking
at
the
the
dashed
outline
of
the
existing
house
here,
the
main
frontage,
for
example,
that
double
door
into
the
new
lobbies
six
feet.
It
looks
like
the
main
frontage
is
probably
eight
feet
further
to
the
east
and
there
was
a
bump
out
in
the
porch.
That
was
an
additional
four
or
five
feet.
Can.
A
F
I
M
Currently,
the
what
you
see
there
is
a
metal
panel
at
the
South
entropy
s--
this
of
white
this
piece
here.
The
bigger
building
is,
as
we
said
before,
mostly
glazing
at
the
those
front
ends
and
the
construction
is
it's
precast
concrete,
so
it's
a
white
tinted
concrete
and
then
the
orange
services
would
be
painted.
These
are
the
things
that
we're
hearing
pushback
on
in
all
honesty.
M
R
N
So
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
and
issues
that
I
have
is
actually
with
the
site
plan,
not
the
building
plan
that
the
the
how
the
elements
are
arranged
in
the
building.
I.
Think
that's
that's
logical,
but
one
thing
that
keeps
bothering
me
is
this:
is
this
where
the
loading
is
and
the
trash
and
it's
right
next
to
these
houses
and
I,
look
at
the
site
plan
and
I
I,
don't
even
understand
how
a
truck
could
even
get
into
those
spaces,
but
I
just
wonder
Devi.
N
Did
you
look
at
other
locations
that
weren't
as
close
to
the
neighbors
one
of
the
standards
that
we
look
at?
Is
it
you
know
basically,
does
it
do
any
as
it
as
it
does
project
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
you
know,
the
adjacent
properties
and
and
I
I'm
very
concerned
about
this
one,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
things
that
you're
supposedly
going
to
be
working
on
with
the
with
adapter,
which
is
mechanical
noise
and
lighting
and
those
sorts
of
things
so
bundled
together.
It's
kind
of
a
big
issue,
I
think
so.
M
From
a
standpoint
of
layout
for
trash
and
refuse,
we
have
moved
it
absolutely
all
over
the
site.
As
you
can
see,
the
bulk
of
the
building
is
where
it
is,
and
this
kind
of
confusion
about
which
yard
is
the
front
is
I.
Think
partially,
because
we
don't
really
have
a
backyard.
So
we've
talked
about
it
being
in
the
north
lot
and
that
doesn't
really
make
sense
from
a
pull
and
pull
out
from
an
actual
you
standpoint
for
the
trash
pickup,
we
were
trying
to
avoid
moving
it
towards
church
towards
Ridge.
M
For
obvious
reasons,
the
home
immediately
adjacent
you
can
see
the
the
gray
box
there
there's
not
really
a
great
spot
to
slide
it.
You
know
back
and
forth
along
those
spots,
so
you
know
it's
not
our
desire
to
put
it
near
anyone,
but
it
has
to
be
somewhere
and,
to
be
honest,
we
we've
shifted
that
you
know
five
times
at
this
point
and
partially
trying
to
figure
out
what
a
truck
can
get
to
with
how
our
site
is
configured
and
also
to
keep
it
away
from
the
the
major
streets
to
whatever
degree
we
can
I.
I
Warning
too
quickly,
because
I
think
we
neglected
to
mention
this,
so
the
site
plan
that's
presented
on
the
screen
is
actually
slightly
different
from
what
is
included
in
your
reading
packet
and
that's
as
a
result
of
an
effort
to
respond
already
to
some
of
the
comments
we've
heard
from
neighbors.
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan
in
your
packet,
you
would
see
that
the
trash
the
refuse
enclosure
is
actually
located
in
the
north.
Well,
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
describe,
but
thank
you.
I
The
north
westernmost
quarter
of
the
new
proposed
new
parking
field
on
the
north
side
of
the
site
where
it's
proposed
now,
can
you
thank
you?
It
is
actually
where
it
is
existing.
Today
and
again,
it
was
proposed
to
be
relocated
from
that
north
western
location,
reflected
on
the
plan
in
your
packet
to
the
location
now
sure
on
this
plan.
In
an
effort
to
respond
to
comments
from
neighbors.
M
Some
concern
with
staff
that
about
the
garbage
trucks
pulling
in
an
out
off
a
bridge
down,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
pitch
there.
It's
just
not
the
cleanest
entry
spot
and
and,
as
you've
said,
it
exists
there
now,
there's
not
really
a
shelter
or
housing
for
it.
They're
just
loose
bins,
kind
of
at
the
end
of
that
lot.
So
we're
trying
to
improve
that
and
work.
What
we
have.
M
M
A
A
So,
if
you're
contemplating
that
the
you
would
need
to
write
something
and
present
it
to
the
Commission
at
this
point
in
time,
the
meeting
would
be
postponed
until
the
next
next
meeting
on
a
date.
Certain
is
that
correct
all
right,
so
so
all
right
moving
on
I'm
going
to
open
this
up
to
questions
from
the
public.
A
Now
this
again,
let
me
repeat
that
this
is
not
a
time
to
to
to
voice
your
opinion,
it's
a
time
for
fact
exploring
facts
and
clarification,
and
so
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
state
your
your
your
opinions
following
this,
so
the
first
person
is
Mary
McWilliams.
She
here
in
which
you'd
like
to
ask
questions
all
right.
Fine,
thank
you,
I
believe
the
next
is
Dave
Brannigan.
G
O
O
Plan
that
I
received
the
landscape
plan,
all
right,
which
shows
a
wood
fence
extending
appearing
to
extend
from
Church
Street
all
the
way
to
the
north
end
of
the
property.
We
have
a
brick
wall
on
the
south
edge
of
our
backyard
and
we
have
a
fence
that
we
installed
not
too
many
years
ago.
So
my
question
is:
is
the
intent
to
replace
the
brick
wall
and
our
fence?
So
the
plan
is
wrong.
F
A
U
O
G
O
M
A
Okay,
I
think
the
third
question
was
their
screens,
yeah
yeah,
so
I
think.
The
third
question
relates
to
where
the
trash
enclosure
is
one
is
the
one
location
which
I
understand
is
the
current
location
is
at
the
little
elbow
where
the
property
line
comes
in,
but
I
understand
that
the
new
proposed
location
is
in
the
very
a
north
west
corner
in
the
resident
lot
and.
M
In
like
we
said
to
Commissioner
Howe
like
this
is
kind
of
an
ongoing
thing
and
I,
you
know
I
apologize
that
it's
moved
multiple
times,
but
we're
still
trying
to
reach
the
spot.
That
is
accessible
works
for
the
site
in
the
owner.
So
in
my
estimation
this
is
the
Atlantic's
base
for
which
is
this
yeah.
This.
M
G
S
My
questions
really
relate
to
the
fact
that
this
is
a
planned
development
and
knowing
I'm,
also
an
architect
and
knowing
how
planned
developments
are
wonderful
opportunities
to
better
the
environment.
My
first
question
is:
how
does
this
site
solution
really
help
our
rich
historic
district
and
is
particularly
one
inch
away
from
your
property
line?
My
next
question
is:
how
does
this
solution
create
a
campus
that
has
no
impact
to
its
surroundings
and
if
you
can
answer
that,
specifically
that'd
be
great.
S
My
third
question
is:
is
it
possible
for
us
to
see
renderings
along
Asbury
Avenue
as
it
relates
to
your
buildings,
so
we
can
really
see
the
impact
to
our
neighbors
to
our
houses,
as
well
as
the
historic
district.
That's
right
next
door,
and
more
specifically,
how
does
the
solution
relate
to
the
neighborhood
beyond
the
ridge
corridor.
A
I
J
M
Mean
going
back
to
my
presentation,
I'd
say
the
improvement
to
the
green
space
in
the
parking.
All
these
new
trees,
garden
space,
meditative
space
play
space,
storm
water
retention,
new
buildings,
increased
you
know,
capacity
for
the
Y,
I'm,
sorry,
yeah,
improved
circulation
and
and
pick
up
and
drop
off
for
the
the
Y
use.
There.
S
Question
was
more
specific
about
how
the
solution
really
responds
to
the
community
beside
beyond
your
property
line
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
benefit
as
a
question.
It
would
be
possible
to
see
what
this
solution
looks
like
from
renderings
more
than
one,
probably
because
one
could
be
very
deceiving
taken
from
Asbury
Avenue
looking
at
this
building
and
and
its
impact
on
the
historic
district.
M
Don't
I'd
have
to
get
with
the
client
and
figure
out
it.
You
know
they're
willing
to
Commission
that
if
it
seems
necessary,
I
mean
I
will
say
again
that
the
the
three-story
portion
of
the
building
has
a
pitched
roof.
It's
actually
closer
to
the
lot
line
and
it's
taller
yeah.
So
you
know
there
is
some
sense.
There's
large
trees.
We
don't
have
that
rendering
and
it
would
take.
You
know
some
effort
to
to
create
so
I.
Don't
I
can't
really
promise
that
as
I
stand
here.
A
And
I
would
venture
to
say
that
the
the
benefit
of
the
plan
development
is
the
mission
of
the
of
the.
Why
I
mean
that
they're
improving
women's
lives
and
the
entire
mission
that
that
that
were
lucky
to
have
as
a
community,
in
my
opinion,
but
that's
that
would
be
you
know
what
I
would
see
is
the
benefit
of
the
plan
so
being
able
to
serve
more
of
in
stone,
ian's
and
so
alright.
Have
you
is
that
it?
So
that
was
basically
your
list
of
questions
I.
Think
right,
no,
okay,
all
right!
V
Didn't
get
on
StubHub
vest
enough.
You
know
good
evening.
Everyone
thanks
for
holding
this
event,
Tom
Roland,
1735,
Asbury
Avenue,
so
a
little
bit
just
north
and
west
of
the
site
in
question
tonight
that
we're
discussing
just
one
fact,
I
appreciate
everyone's
input.
A
licensed
architect
with
a
firm
in
Chicago
I've,
been
on
this
side
of
the
fence,
so
now
I'm
on
this
side
of
the
fence.
So
it's
kind
of
interesting
perspective
here
so,
but
I'll
try
and
be
brief.
V
One
question
to
start
specifically
is
and
I
appreciate
the
staff
and
the
applicants
desire
to
continue
to
work
on
the
aesthetic
of
the
design.
It's
a
pretty
broad
statement,
though,
when
you
say
aesthetic,
so
is
there
parameters
that
define
what
we'll
be
looking
at.
I
know
we're
asking
for
site
plan
approval
tonight,
but
aesthetically
it
could
be
the
materiality
of
building
it
could
be.
The
mass
and
scale
of
the
building
is
part
of
an
aesthetic,
so
site
plan.
Approval
may
or
may
not
preclude
or
exclude
some
design
moves,
or
some
slight
impact
moves.
I.
V
V
There
is
one
question:
I
have
on
the
north
side
of
the
domestic
violence
and
admin
building
that,
where
it
steps
down
to
the
lower
portion,
there's
a
large
wall
that
goes
out
to
the
west
and
I
understand
it
separates
the
northern
parking
lot
from
the
adjacent
sort
of
backyard,
protecting
garden
space,
but
I
think
the
height
of
that
wall
is
typically
I.
Think
we're
seeing
six
foot
as
our
height
in
the
city
of
Evanston
for
fences
and
things
like
that.
V
Number
three
I
think
this
was
back
to
my
neighbors
question
on
the
the
view
from
the
evident
from
Asbury
looking
east
towards
the
building,
actually
think
it
was
one
of
the
comments
in
the
Preservation
Commission
to
have
that
study
done,
or
at
least
that
render
done
so.
We
could
verify
that
I
believe
that
was
one
of
the
statements
in
the
Preservation
Commission
that
they
asked
to
see
a
read
that
rendering
the
show
the
impact
from
the
historic
district.
V
The
historic
parcel
today
I
would
still
ask
if
there's
studies
to
be
made
in
the
orientation
of
that
location
because
again
you're
talking
about
a
forty
seven
foot
tall
vertical
wall
that
is
non-residential
and
feel,
and
so
we're
talking
about
an
apple
and
an
orange
in
some
respects.
So
I
would
ask
if
there's
a
potential
of
some
study,
analyzing
sort
of
the
back
of
what
would
basically
look
like
a
hotel
versus
a
residential
look
and
feel
option,
and
that's
all
I
happen.
V
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
one
last
thing
to
I
guess,
and
this
was
made
by
the
by
mr.
Lewis.
Here
you
know
the
benefit
of
the
mission.
I
think
we
all
agree.
It's
a
value
add
to
Evanston,
and
the
better
benefit
of
the
mission
is
for
all
of
estonians.
But
I
would
ask
that
this
Commission.
We
have
to
look
at
the
people
again
that
are
directly
to
the
West's.
Property
are
potentially
impacted
by
this
planned
development
and
potentially
negatively
on
property
values
and
I
know
for
myself
and
people
along
that
way.
V
Part
of
that
is
a
retirement
fund
when
they
sell
that
house
and
they
move
on,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
that
should
be
part
of
the
analysis
of
adjacent
property
and
the
value
impacted
by
such
development.
I
appreciate
it
for
the
whole
neighborhood
and
for
all
men
and
I
totally
agree
with
it
I
just
that
should
be
something
that
should
be
contemplated
as
well.
Alright.
A
So
as
a
quest
as
an
answer
to
number
four
is
yes,
that
is
one
of
the
standards
that
is
considered
as
they
impact
on
on
residents
within
the
in
the
area,
so
that
will
be
addressed
so
numbers
one.
Two
and
three
are:
what
is
the
process
of
the
aesthetic
review
that
might
be
better
for
staff
to
I
mean
it
was
asked
by
Commissioner
Malecha
but
I?
Guess
specifically,
would
that
be?
Is
there
going
to
be
another
dapper
review
or
is
it,
whereas
is
that
done.
V
Mean
I
meant
a
minute,
as
mr.
Alec
means
they
just
the
statement
that
continue
to
work
on
the
aesthetic
design
is
a
pretty
broad
statement.
What
falls
in
the
parameters
of
aesthetic
design
development?
Is
it
the
color
of
the
window?
Openings
is
the
materiality
of
the
precast
or
the
curtain
wall
or
the
metal
panels
that
are
proposed
in
a
historic
district.
Is
it
the
massive
scale,
the
building
I?
Think
it's
yeah?
Okay,
a
little
more
detail:
okay,.
M
M
V
D
A
V
V
A
G
M
M
M
We've
probably
presented
it
to
Karen
on
the
board
nine
times
at
this
point
and
and
this
just
kept
lending
itself
in
efficiency,
the
devil
loaded
corridor.
The
fact
that
this
can
be
built
while
people
stay
housed
in
the
existing
shelter,
they
can
then
move
while
that's
torn
down
and
rehabbed.
We
have
the
rest
of
the
space,
so
it's
sort
of
a
vague
answer,
but
we
have
really
worked
it
to
death.
A
A
A
Now
that
that
is,
is
done.
It's
now
time
that
that
the
public
has
their
opportunity
to
to
comment
and
present
their
opinions
on
the
matter.
You
will
be
again:
you'll
have
to
come
up
to
the
microphone
state.
Your
name
and
address
and
you'll
be
limited
to
two
minutes
to
voice
your
opinion,
so
we'll
go
back
and
ask
Mary
McWilliams.
F
F
G
W
Up
from
my
seat
didn't
want
to
I,
don't
I'm,
not
gonna
use
it
anyway.
I'm
Mary,
McWilliams
I
live
at
1606
Wesley
Avenue,
which
is
within
100,000
feet
of
the
YWCA
property.
Before
I
comment
on
the
Y's
proposed
construction,
I
would
like
to
say
I
recognize
the
importance
of
its
work
and
I
understand
the
organization's
need
to
expand
the
physical
plant
and
I'm
glad
that
the
the
organization
has
been
able
to
find
a
way
to
just
to
do
so
and
stay
in
Evanston.
W
Finally,
as
a
longtime
preservationist
in
Evanston,
I
am
disappointed
that
the
historic
house
at
the
corner,
bridge
and
churches
to
come
down
this
building
was
designed
by
Joseph
Lymon
Sylvan
sills
be
an
important
19th
century
Chicago
architect
and
the
site
is
where
the
eastern
boundary,
the
rich
historic
district
of
a
single-family
houses
turns
west
from
Ridge
Avenue
to
continue
north
on
a
house.
Berry
Avenue.
In
addition,
the
apartment
house
across
the
street
at
1703
to
1715
Ridge
and
is
a
local
landmark
and
is
listed
in
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places.
W
The
three
courtyard
buildings
in
the
1600
blocks
of
rich
are
a
part
of
a
net
multiple
property,
historic
district
entitled
suburban
apartment
buildings
in
Evanston
Illinois
listed
both
locally
and
in
the
National
Register.
The
buildings
in
these
two
blocks,
both
the
apartment
houses
and
the
single-family
houses
have
existed
as
compatible
neighborhood
neighbors
for
Oh
for
a
hundred
years
in
large
part,
because
each
building
type
demonstrates
a
respect
for
the
other
type
in
housing,
materials,
color
and
fenestration.
W
W
Likewise,
when
the
architects
designed
this
the
why
swimming
pool
and
other
building
in
the
17th,
the
firm
clearly
took
into
consideration
the
surrounding
buildings,
the
1970s
buildings
do
not
copy
the
style
of
the
older
buildings,
but
in
the
choice
of
the
tambour
exciting
they
are
respectful
of
the
materials
and
colors
of
the
houses
to
the
south,
the
apartment
houses
to
the
east
and
the
the
office
building
and
warehouse
to
the
north.
I
support
the
plan
commission's
recommendation
for
further
work
on
the
aesthetics
of
the
project.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
Wasn't
gonna
be
part
of
my
comment,
but
when
I
heard
about
the
trash
location,
I
got
a
little
bothered
for
24
years,
we've
lived
with
five
o'clock,
pick
ups
from
garbage
trucks
at
our
back
door
to
dumpsters
every
day,
seven
days
a
week
now
the
plan
shows
eight
containers
being
dumped
eight
containers
and
one
enclosure
again
in
our
back
yard.
If
that's
not
an
adverse
impact
to
the
property
value,
I,
don't
know
what
is
and
I
wish.
O
S
I
would
like
to
17:19
asbury
I
would
like
to
echo
Mary's
thoughts,
because
it
was
very
articulate
and
really
embraced.
The
spirit
of
a
building
and
its
impact
on
other
buildings
around
it
and
I
would
really
request
that
the
aesthetics
of
this
building
be
looked
at
more
closely
and
its
context
with
the
historic
district
and
just
with
the
other
other
areas
of
the
buildings
within
this
area.
I
am
also
very
concerned
about
the
the
light
levels
that
will
be
generated
from
this
building.
S
It's
when
one
looks
at
the
floor
plans,
the
community
room
where
the
big
dining
room
is
really
in
the
well.
It's
facing
north
right
into
the
historic
houses
that
are
going
to
be
that
are
have
been
there
for
over
a
hundred
years,
and
the
I
am
also
very
concerned
about
the
the
noise
from
the
HVAC
units
they're
very
loud
now,
I
one
of
my
neighbors
took
a
reading
and
it
was
over
50
decibels
at
early
in
the
morning
and
that's
without
the
expansion
that's
happening.
S
S
I
know
being
an
architect
myself
that
you
take
it,
you
get
advice,
but
you
don't
always
follow
it
and
would
like
to
know
what
kind
of
measures
will
be
taken
so
that
we
don't
have
that
noise
level
that
will
be
in
the
house
in
the
new
surrounding
neighbors
as
well
and
again,
I
just
really
request
that
the
aesthetics
of
this
building
be
looked
at
more
closely,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
the
beauty
of
Evanston.
Thank
you.
X
Hello,
so
I
started
taking
my
son
to
swim
lessons
at
the
Y
13
years
ago
and
then
dumb
drop
off
and
pickup.
It
was
always
a
hassle,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
addressed
here
in
the
site,
with
additional
parking
and
much
better
circulation
and
I
actually
think
that
the
old
house
was
not
serving
the
shelter
well
and
so
I'm
glad
to
see
a
new
building
in
that
and
I
actually
don't
believe
that
trying
to
do
some
mimicking
of
historic
buildings
works
out.
X
Well,
when
you're
trying
to
do
a
new,
modern,
efficient,
economical,
we
designed
a
constructed
building,
that's
sustainable,
so
I
actually
welcome
something.
That's
new
and
innovative
and
looks
like
it
was
built
now
because
it's
gonna
last
another
50
years
or
100
years,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
shy
away
from
white
and
I.
Think
the
precast
concrete
is
a
very
viable
material
to
use
in
this
kind
of
application.
I!
Don't
think
that
the
buildings
to
the
south
are
all
that
attractive.
X
A
Y
Evening,
I'm
Joan,
Sanford
I
live
at
1618
Wesley
Avenue
and
therefore
received
one
of
the
postcards,
because
I
am
within
1000
feet
of
the
subject
property.
My
concern
is
the
aesthetics
of
the
back
building,
but
most
particularly
the
aesthetics
of
what
I've
variously
called
along
referring
to
the
tunnel,
which
is
the
way
it
appears
from
the
street,
and
it
also
appears
in
the
thought
came
to
me.
Y
A
little
bit
farther
in
front
I,
guess
but
still
would
be
way
back
from
Church
Street,
but
would
allow
you
to
look
over
at
the
building
and
not
feel
that
this
thing
is
leaping
out
at
you
either.
As
you
walk
up
as
you
walk
along
Church
Street,
as
you
walk
up,
Church
Street,
coming
up
the
hill
and
seeing
it
Lu
Orisha
walk
east
on
Church
Street,
which
all
of
these
are
walks
that
I
take
and
once
again
it
would
be
coming
up.
Y
It
is
a
most
prominent
feature
of
the
building,
both
because
of
the
oddity
of
its
shape
and
because
it's
narrow
and
it
that
is
it's
one
thing
to
say
that
the
historic
neighborhood
that
particular
area
we
lost
the
building
on
the
south
to
fire.
This
building
is
coming
down
because
it's
old
and
not
useful
anymore,
but
it's
one
thing
to
take
those
buildings
down
and
say
they
are
gone,
and
it's
another
to
say
in
your
face
this
neighborhood,
where
I
have
now
lived
for
53
years
walking
every
day
to
say
this
is
ok.
Y
A
A
Yeah
all
right,
yeah
we'd
like
to
kind
of
move
on,
so
all
right
with
with
no
further
public
comment,
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
meeting
and
well
actually
I
I'm,
one
I,
guess
I'm
not
going
to
close
and
I'm
going
to
unclose
it
I'm
gonna
give
the
petitioner
one
opportunity
to
rebut
if
they
would
like
to
anything
or
make
a
closing
statement.
I
I
As
we
said
from
the
outset,
we're
committed
to
a
condition
of
approval
that
obligates
the
applicant
to
continue
to
work
with
staff,
which
would
invariably
be
reflective
of
comments
from
the
public
on
the
design
aesthetics
to
the
point
that
was
raised
earlier
and
I
apologize,
I,
don't
recall
specifically,
who
asked
it
actually
I
guess
it
was
mr.
Rowland.
I
From
our
perspective,
we
believe,
based
on
the
extensive
amount
of
thought,
that's
been
put
into
the
overall
site
plan,
design
that
the
scope
of
the
aesthetics
as
referenced
in
proposed
condition.
Number
one
would
relate
to
material
and
color.
So,
from
our
perspective,
we
don't
think
it's
productive
to
continue
to
evaluate
building
location
or
orientation
or
related
types
of
modifications
to
the
overall
footprint
of
the
proposed
built
improvements
as
Jack
the
project.
Architect
referenced
earlier,
there's
been
extensive
thought
put
into
that
as
I
generally
referenced.
I
I
Needless
to
say,
there's
also
an
effort
being
made
to
meld
what
is
being
proposed
in
the
way
of
new
construction,
with
the
existing
architectural
character
and
again,
with
that
in
mind,
we're
mindful
of
the
need
to
and
happy
to
continue
to
discuss,
aesthetic
modifications
relating
to
color
and
building
materials
relative
to
trash
enclosure,
I
mean
I.
Think
I
can
safely
say
that
we're
willing
gladly
willing
to
continue
to
have
that
discussion.
But,
quite
frankly,
we
don't
know
what
better
alternative
there
is.
I
Relative
to
landscape
enhancements,
I
guess
my
statement
earlier
was
probably
inaccurate
and
that
we
are
equally
willing
to
evaluate
landscape
enhancement,
specifically
along
that
Western
property
line.
So
that
way
would
fall.
I
guess
within
the
aesthetic
design,
scope
referenced
in
proposed
condition,
one
and
then
I
think.
I
The
YW
has
been
working
with
a
consulting
noise
expert
and
you
know
will
continue
to
be
doing
that
for
the
purpose
of
ensuring
compliance
with
the
city's
mechanical
noise
related
regulations.
My
recollection
is
that
that
permissible
noise
level
at
the
property
line
is
55
decibels
and,
needless
to
say,
that
YW
would
be
committed
to
complying
with
that
requirement.
I.
A
C
A
few
thoughts
number
number
one,
the
the
project
overall
I
think
is
a
isn't
that
positive
there
are.
There
are
two
issues
that
that
I
think
were
raised
during
the
during
the
testimony
today.
That
I
think
require
some
some
thought
number
one
is
the
enhanced
landscaping
for
the
neighbors
to
the
west.
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
reasonable
ask
from
the
neighbors
and
I
think
it's
something
that
the
YWCA
should
be.
C
You
know
held
to
act
reasonably
and
and
provide
some
some
further
landscaping
on
that
end.
The
second
issue
is
something
that
that
hits
close
close
to
home
for
me,
and
that
is
the
the
trash
and
trash
pickup
I
I
myself
live
along
Church
Avenue
our
church
street
and
hear
and
see
those
trucks
coming
coming
up
and
down.
Church
and
I
believe
it
was
mr.
Branigan
that
that
mentioned
it
that
they
can.
You
can
hear
them
as
early
as
five
o'clock
in
the
morning.
I
I
can
confirm
that.
C
C
Trash
containers,
and
which
will
you
know,
increase
the
amount
of
time
and
the
amount
of
noise
and
length
of
noise
that
they,
the
neighbors,
hear
I.
Think
one
of
the
planned
development
requirements
should
be
that
they
either
the
YWCA
cannot
have
trash
pickup
before
a
certain
for
a
certain
time.
9:00
a.m.
you
know
if
they
have
to
work
with
their
with
their
scavengers
service
to
ensure
that
the
trash
pickup
happens
at
a
later
time.
I
think
that
addresses
an
existing
problem
and
makes
sure
that
the
problem
does
not
intensify
as
a
result
of
the
increase.
N
I'm
going
to
have
some
of
the
same
comments,
just
continuing
on
the
the
truck
and
the
trash
issue,
I
I'm
not
sure
I
was
looking
at
the
site
plan
and
to
your
question
of,
do
you
have
any
other
ideas?
I
mean
I.
The
only
one
looking
at
the
geometry
is:
can
that
trash
and
truck
dock
move
closer
to
the
YWCA's
building,
as
opposed
to
right
up
against
the
residents
and
or
maybe
maybe
the
truck
truck
doc.
Sorry
oriented
north-south.
Something
like
that.
But
I
don't
know
that.
N
That's
the
whole
problem
and
I
think
what
what
commissioner
Isaac
raised
the
noise.
The
sound
problem
is
an
issue.
So
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
mechanical
noise,
I
think
definitely
the
either
either
scheduling
or
somehow
to
mitigate
the
truck
dock.
Noise,
I
think
is,
is
very,
very
important
and
there's
I
have
a
list
of
things.
I
agreed
to
the
to
the
person
who
brought
up
lighting.
You
know
those
things
can
be
can
be
mitigated
if
it
spreads
to
its
lights.
Coming
from
the
inside.
N
Maybe
at
night
there's
lines
or
something
I,
don't
know,
I
think
that's.
That
sounds
like
a
simple
thing,
but
what
an
important
thing
the
the
idea
of
that
was
brought
up
of
the
view
from
Asbury,
I
I,
do
think
that's
important
and
I
think
when
you're
adjacent
to
a
historic
district,
it's
it's
it's
important
to
to
show
the
residents.
N
What
that
view
is
like,
but
I
also
think
that
maybe
a
section
through
the
an
east-west
section
showing
the
relationship
of
the
height
of
the
building
to
the
height
of
the
residents
and
the
distance
between
the
tn2
and
how
the
screening
might
mitigate
the
view
from
from
the
houses.
I
realize
landscape
has
to
grow.
But
you
know
something
like
that
and
to
that
point
and
to
the
person
who
talked
about
okay,
what
is
the
scope
of
the
aesthetic
review?
Have
you
well
I?
N
Don't
want
to
put
this
in
a
question,
but
you
might
want
to
consider
stepping
the
building
back
so
that
maybe
the
first
two
floors
are
our
like.
The
site
plan
shows,
but
then
the
upper
two
floors
are
our
setback.
I,
don't
know
that.
Would
that
would
help
the
situation
but
I
think
relative
to
what
the
neighbors
are
concerned
about
they're
concerned
about
a
build
big
building
right
up
against
right
up
against
their
property
and
it
may
or
may
not
help
I,
don't
know,
but
I
think
it's
something
to
look
at
as
far
as
the
I.
N
Don't
think,
I
don't
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
color
I.
Think
it's
a
man,
its
material
materiality
also
so
I
I
would
challenge
that
comment
about.
Well,
it's
just
a
matter
of
changing
the
color
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
it
is
landscape.
Buffer
was
talked
about,
I,
totally
agree
and
and
and
as
dense
as
possible
is
is
a
good
idea,
evergreens
great
idea.
N
And
lastly,
with
all
these
concerns-
and
frankly,
as
long
as
I've
been
on
the
Commission
I've,
never
I,
don't
remember
a
project
that
I
said
that
said
this
has
had
so
many
zoning
asks
that
are,
and
concerns
actually
expressed
that
are
left
to
the
to
the
other
committees
and
I
realize
that
our
purview
is
limited
but
I,
but
given
that
these
are
fairly
significant
issues,
I'm
just
wondering
whether
that's
leaving
it
to
the
to
the
other
groups
or
staff
to
work
out
these
things.
It's
fine
but
I.
N
Just
wonder
whether,
because
of
there
are
several
things
that
are
being
addressed,
should
this
group
come
before
our
group
again
just
to
present
what
the
new
the
new
design,
because
there's
the
site
plan
issues,
there's
massing
issues,
there's
materiality
issues,
its
color
issues.
There's
lots
of
things.
A
I'm
going
to
interject
at
this
point
that
the
the
purpose
here
and
whatever
we
find
today
is
not
a
yes
or
no
approval,
we're
a
recommending
body
and
we
make
a
recommendation
to
the
City
Council,
who
will
officially
have
yay
or
nay
up
or
down
vote
on
on
the
on
the
matter.
So
so
so,
though,
there
will
be
other
opportunities
to
see
for
people
the
public
to
see,
see
items.
So
a
commissioner
Goddard
yeah.
P
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
Evanston
is
very
lucky
to
have
had
this
organization
in
its
town
for
50
years
enthusiastically
support
this
plan
development
I
think
there
are
some
issues.
I
wish
this
building
were
a
little
less
institutional.
Looking
what
I
support
the
entire
plan
of
development
as
presented.
A
So
there
are,
there
are
very
nice
examples
of
this
I
believe
that
there's
a
Catholic
school
on
Sheridan
Road
that
has
done
a
marvelous
addition
to
a
gothic
to
a
gothic
school
building
that
has
wonderful
kind
of
proportions,
but
as
expressed
in
kind
of
a
modern
way.
So
but
the
materials
and
the
proportions
and
the
rhythms
are
all
very
sympathetic,
so
I
would
I
would
encourage
that
as
the
goal
toward
this
aesthetic
also
I
have
a
little
bit
of
I.
Well,
I
agree
also
about
the
front
entry.
A
Whatever
solution
that
does
minimize
the
impact
to
the
community,
I
have
to
I
have
to
agree,
though,
with
with
the
staff
report
about
the
loading
dock
and
I,
can't
see
that
there
is
that
that
many
deliveries
that
it
will
become
a
significant
thing
I'm,
might
might
have
and
should
have
asked
the
question
about
being
a
pool
building.
You
do
have
laundry
service
pick
up.
Do
you
have
you
know
that
kind
of
thing?
A
What
constitutes
the
kind
of
deliveries
that
that
are
happening
at
that
dock,
but
it
seems
that
this
kind
of
use
is
fairly
fairly
light
and
even
the
residents
would
not
have
you
know
significant
move
in
kind
of
kind
of
uses
for
the
dock,
so
that
said,
I
think
we
have
our
usual
choices
of
either
recommending
approval
for
the
purpose,
presentation
or
approval
with
modifications
or
denying
so
is
there
any
modifications
that
we
would.
You
know
heading
toward
a
motion
that
we
would
want
to
include
within
this
are.
A
G
A
H
H
A
A
C
G
C
A
A
N
Don't
I
I
think
we
I
think
people
the
residents
have
brought
up
issues
that
could
could
have
an
effect
on
their
property.
I
think
we've
talked
about
things
that
could,
and
we've
talked
about.
We've
made
record
we're
making
recommendations
that
that
that
that
that,
if
not,
if
not
done
if
not
addressed,
could
have
a
negative
effect,
so
I
just
I'm
just
saying
that.
G
N
N
A
I
think
I
think
we
should
should
consider
this
as
if
we
do
it
with
modifications
that
we
can
say
that
it
wouldn't
be
satisfied.
If
it's,
if
it's
passed
with
modifications
per
Commissioner
Isaac's
comments,
so
so
can
it
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services?
Is
the
next
staff
would
say
yes?
A
C
C
A
I
would
say
we
find
that
that
it's,
that
it
is.
A
So
so
so
I
see.
Z
A
F
A
It
complies
with
all
other
applicated
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances,
except
to
the
extent
such
regulations
have
been
modified
through
the
plan
development
process
or
grant
of
a
variation
and
I'm
going
to
trust.
Staff
has
identified
all
of
the
satisfying
those
those
issues.
A
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
standards
for
development,
all
right
so
standards
for
planned
developments
as
a
special
use
plan
development
involves
such
special
considerations
of
the
public
interest
that
it
shall
be
required
to
adhere
to
the
specific
plan
development
standards
established
in
the
zoning
district
in
which
it
is
located.
Compliance
with
the
standards
shall
govern
all
the
recommendations
of
the
plan
commission
applicable
to
a
planned
development
and
the
action
of
the
City
Council.
A
In
order
to
ensure
that
the
approved
plan
development
is
in
harmony
with
the
general,
this
is
an
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
planned
Commission
shall
not
recommend
approval,
nor
shall
the
City
Council
approve
a
planned
development
unless
each
shell
determined,
based
on
written
findings
of
fact,
that
the
plan
development
satisfies
the
specific
standards
established
in
the
zoning
district
in
which
the
plan
development
is
located.
A
So
standards
and
guidelines
for
planned
developments
in
r4
district.
Each
plan
development
shall
be
compatible
with
surrounding
development
and
shall
not
be
of
such
a
nature
and
height
bulk
or
scale
as
to
exercise
any
influence.
Contrary
to
the
purpose
or
and
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
is
set
forth
in
Section
six
one
to
purpose
and
intent
of
this
title.
C
So
the
the
height
of
the
building
is,
is,
you
know,
obviously
higher
than
what
is
what
is
currently
allowed?
That
being
said,
the
building
that's
being
demolished
according
the
plan,
is
higher
than
what
is
currently
allowed.
I
believe
that
existing
the
top
of
the
existing
building
is
something
like
it
looked
like
43
or
44
feet
to
the
the
top
of
the
the
arch.
A
C
A
But
it's
within
the
allowable
allowable
site,
development,
allowances
and
I
would
go
further
to
say
that
the
major
structure
is
is
located
on
the
side.
That
is,
although
it's
not,
that
is
adjacent
to
to
the
the
least,
has
the
least
impact
on
neighbors.
By
being
to
the
north
side,
where
it's
not
a
residential
residential
district,
it's
a
commercial.
C
A
All
right,
so
the
use
is
the
same,
so
it
satisfied
all
landscaping.
Treatment
within
the
plan.
Development
shall
be
provided
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
as
set
forth
in
chapter
17,
landscape
and
screening.
Of
this
type
of
this
title
and
shown
on
the
required
landscape
plan
submitted
as
part
of
the
plan
development
action
I
would
have
to
trust
staff.
To
tell
us
that
that
is
within
the
ordinance
was
not
stated
as
a
fact
within
the
report,
so
I
would
want
to
I
noticed
there.
A
H
A
A
H
N
Please
so
the
the
the
the
history
of
this
project
and
I
is
is
that
it
sounds
like
that.
The
meetings
with
DAF
earnest
and
Historic
Preservation
that
all
come
so
quickly
after
each
other
and
I.
It
sounds
like
because
of
that
there
there
has
been
enough
time
to
make
the
wreck
make
any
recommended
changes
or
study
them,
and
all
that.
N
That's
what
it
that's
what
it
sounds
like
to
me
so
I,
but
but
it
does
bother
me
that
this
these
these
issues
have
been
raised
by
well
at
least
dapper,
and
maybe
some
of
them
by
the
Preservation,
Commission
and
and
and
they
keep
getting.
You
know
it.
The
project
gets
approved
by
each
committee
with
the
same
concerns,
and
it's
it's
just
being.
You
know
now
we're
doing
the
same
thing,
we're
saying
yeah.
You
know
we
totally
agree
with
the
mission.
N
I
guess,
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
because
it
seems
like
I'm
negative
on
the
project:
I'm
not
really,
and
I
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
land
and
bone
Baker
are
great
architects.
I.
Think,
though,
if
you
look
at
the
work,
they've
done,
that's
it's
really
good
stuff,
good,
solid
stuff
and,
and
they
they
they
have
a
very
good
sense,
I,
think
of
of
aesthetics
and
massing
and
all
the
things
that
make
good
architecture.
N
I
I
think
that
in
this
case
we
need
to
listen
to
the
to
the
neighbors
to,
and
you
could
have
a
viewpoint
that
says
that
you
know
a
very
different,
very
modern.
Very
you
know
out.
There
is
a
good
response,
but
I
think
they're
they're
questioning
that
response
and
I
think
we
have
to
I
think
we
have
to
listen
and
that's
why,
but
anyway,
for.
N
G
C
T
T
C
I,
don't
think
this
I
know
where
we're
we're
talking
about
these.
You
know
they're
being
open
issues
for
you
know
for
this
development,
but
I,
don't
think
this
situation
is
very
uncommon.
I
think
pretty
much.
Every
single
development
that
comes
by
this
commission
always
has
one
or
two
things
that
we
say:
okay,
continue
to
work
with
staff,
okay,
and
so
what
we're
recommending
to
the
City
Council
of
the
City
Council,
ultimately
approves
is
putting
the
authority
in
staff's
hands.
H
And
again,
the
more
specific
concern
is
that
can
be
worded
as
a
condition.
You
can
have
a
timing
mechanism
on
that
condition
that,
prior
to
issue
it's
a
building
permit
prior
to
occupancy,
give
some
sort
of
timing
there
and
then
and
then
indicate
if
the
Commission
feels
that
it's
it's
staffs
discretion.
You
know,
prior
to
this
state
staff
shall
approve.
This
is
dad
to
address
such
and
such
concern,
so
I
think
the
more
specific
it
is
the
more
meet
it
has
to
it.
One
gets
put
into
Lord,
okay.
G
A
So,
let's,
let's
move
on:
where
did
we
leave
off
mr.
Langan.
C
Know
on
Google
Maps
I
was
I
was
looking
at
in
Google
Maps
property
just
to
the
north.
Has
it
has
a
ridge
curb
cut
and
you
can
see
all
the
tire
tracks
of
people
turning
left
in
or
you
know
turning
left
in
there
so,
like
I,
said,
I
live
in
the
area.
I,
don't
really
see
people
turning
left
around
there,
but
it
obviously
does
happen.
I.
Q
A
C
I
move
that
we
accept
staffs
recommendation
to
approve
the
project
with
the
following
three
modifications:
the
condition
one
that
was
referenced
by
staff.
The
applicant
shall
continue
to
work
on
the
aesthetic
design
of
the
building
additions.
I
think
should
be
should
be
appended
to
append
it
to
add
the
words
to
the
satisfaction
of
city
staff.
A
C
A
B
B
This
is
considered
a
text
amendment
as
it
is
dealing
with
changing
the
the
wording
within
the
regulations
for
this
district.
We
have
consulted
with
our
corporation
counsel
and
he's
done
research
and
also
concluded
that
this
is
the
text
amendment
and
we
have
noticed,
as
the
zoning
code
requires
for
text
amendments.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
else
to
Jerry.
Z
Lewis
members,
the
Commission
he
was
assistant
city
attorney
we've.
We
have
reviewed
both
the
text,
amendment
and
submission
by
by
citizens
indicating
an
argument
for
from
a
map
and
then
based
on
what
was
submitted
by
Northwestern.
What's
here,
we
are
confident
this
is
in
fact
a
texan
limit
was
properly
noticed.
We
feel
like
both
of
those
are
dating
issues.
Z
The
impact
will
type
a
notice
you
would
receive,
and
while
we
are
late
and
I
know
this
is
this
is
minoo
something
taken
out
of
your
day,
but
the
only
thing
worse
would
be
if
we
had
to
do
this
twice.
So
we
take
this
issue
very
seriously
and
getting
the
notice
correct
and
getting
this
decision
correct
or
a
confident
that
we've
done
so.
Thank
you.
G
B
B
Now
the
list
that
is
here
when
the
lists
the
listed
items
are
conducted
in
association
with
the
permitted
uses
that
I'm
just
mentioned,
they
will
also
be
considered
permitted
uses,
and
that
includes
intramural
initiative,
collegiate
sports
and
athletic
events
and
practice.
Therefore,
local,
regional
and
state
elementary
and
high
school
athletic
events
and
practice.
B
Therefore,
band
playing
and
practice
and
connection
with
the
above
events,
commencement,
convocation
and
graduation
exercises,
University,
sponsored
lecture
speakers,
musical
performances
and
other
cultural
events
public
in
an
enclosed
building,
provided
that
the
attendance
is
limited
to
ten
thousand
or
less
luncheons
and
dinners
and
dining
room
facilities
in
a
stadium.
Provided
that
attendance
is
limited
to
the
seating
capacity
of
the
facilities
accessory
uses
to
the
above
formatted
uses,
including
administrative
and
faculty
offices,
classrooms,
auditoriums,
athletic
facilities
and
parking
spaces
and
off
street
parking
for
hospital
employees
and
foreign
university
students
and
employees.
B
This
section
also
permits
temporary
events
that
are
permitted,
provided
that
they
are
community
or
cultural
in
nature
and
further,
provided
that
they
meet
the
conditions
that
are
listed
below
the
community
and
cultural
events
of
a
nonprofit
nature,
inter
do
primarily
for
residents
of
the
city
and
amateur
athletic.
Events
shall
be
permitted,
provided
that
the
following
conditions
are
met.
Sponsors
of
a
temporary
event
obtain
a
certificate
of
zoning
compliance
pursuant
to
section
six.
B
Four,
eight
two
of
this
title
attendance
at
such
events
is
limited
to
ten
thousand
persons
or
less
adequate
University
parking
is
available
and
is
provided
to
all
persons
attending
the
event.
Private
security
is
provided
for
those
parking
areas,
utilized
etiquette
provision
of
a
traffic
control
devices
at
no
city
expense,
including
personnel,
should
be
provided
to
ensure
that
the
free
flow
of
traffic
and
security
and
safety
of
said
traffic
flow,
live
animals
and
better
used
in
conjunction
with
any
event
may
only
be
stored
within
a
completely
enclosed
building.
B
No
more
than
seven
such
events
shall
be
held
in
any
calendar
year
in
any
one
facility
and
each
such
event
shall
not
exceed
five
consecutive
days
in
duration.
Lighting
associated
with
such
events
shall
be
directed
away
from
adjacent
residences,
and,
finally,
tractor
trailers
may
not
remain
running
well
parked
on
the
public
street
or
in
oxygen
parking
areas.
B
The
include
Northwestern
basketball
games,
wrestling
volleyball
games,
Northwestern
graduations,
the
you
know,
fall
concert
as
well
as
three
different
high
school
graduations
come
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
the
amount
of
each
of
these
events,
as
well
as
the
usual
amount
of
attendees.
For
each
of
these
events
and
the
time
of
year
that
they
typically
occur.
B
So
we
have
the
proposed
amendments
to
this
section
and
they
are
amazing
that
the
I'm,
sorry,
that
currently
and
culturally
community
and
cultural
events
movies
striking
the
nonprofit
nature
of
those
events
and
also
allow
for
professional
events.
So
removing
the
amateur
portion
of
that
as
well
we'd
be
changing
a
number
one
for
the
requirements
where
sponsors
of
the
temporary
event
shall
provide
proof
of
event.
Logistics,
approval
by
the
cities,
a
special
events
committee
and
obtain
the
certificate
of
zoning
compliance.
B
We'd
also
be
changing
item
to
actually
reducing
the
maximum
number
of
attendees
from
ten
thousand
to
seven
thousand
persons
and
then
going
down
a
little
bit
to
item
number
seven.
We
would
be
slightly
adjusting
the
requirements
for
the
number
of
events
where
the
events
would
be
the
six
single
day,
events
and
the
seventh
event,
which
would
be
a
multi-day
event
and
which
would
still
require
from
from
the
city
of
Evanston
and
in
order
to
occur
for
each
calendar
year.
B
Q
Q
B
That
particular
committee
reviews
it
a
number
of
the
events
that
happen
within
the
city.
It
is
not
unsimilar
to
our
designer
project
review
committee,
where
it's
a
number
of
staff
members
that
look
at
the
different
logistics,
so
we've
got
the
fire
department
and
Police
Department
as
well
as
Public
Works
that
look
at
what
actually
utilities
may
need
to
be
used
and
the
fire
department
will
look
at
whether
or
not
they
have
space
for
emergency
vehicles
to
go
through
police
would
consider
whether
or
not
additional
personnel
would
be
needed
for
security.
B
Not
under
the
current
wording,
there
have
been
events
in
the
past
we've
been
more
decades
ago.
I
know.
In
the
seventies
the
Bears
played
one
of
their
games
on
campus
or
I
think
within
Walsh
Ryan
arena
I,
don't
think
it
was
named
that
at
the
time
and
then
also
there
was
a
concert
that
was
held
but
I
don't
believe
it.
N
F
A
C
So,
for
a
temporary
event,
with
a
with
an
attendance
cap
at
7,000,
we're
not
talking
about
Ryan
field,
we're
talking
about
Welsh
Ryan,
essentially
well,
or
you
know,
to
the
extent
there's
a
lot
of
people.
They
want
to
watch
baseball
or
softball,
but
we're
really
talking
about
Welsh,
Welsh
Ryan
to
Mia
and
the
chart
of
of
uses
under
the
current
ordinance
that
you
provided.
C
Z
Z
If
you're
referring
to
concerts
absolutely
know,
is
that
I
know
that
that
fall,
isn't
the
definition
of
amusement,
but
I
would
have
to
look
at
the
event
individually.
If
it's
a
sporting
event,
it
would
be
a
separate
tax.
If
it's
a
concert,
it's
amusement
tax,
it's
something
else.
Then
we
would
just
need
to
do
an
analysis
of
the
qualifies
as
an
amusement
under
the
code
which
most
ticketed
things
do.
Okay,.
C
B
B
A
AA
AA
The
answer
is,
we
are
very
excited
about
the
notion
of
doing
something
very
specifically
for
the
understand
residents
if
we
were
to
get
this
opportunity
and
what
we
would
do,
which
is
something
pretty
common
in
the
business,
is
that
we
would
offer
a
pre-sale
simply
to
Evanston
residents
prior
to
going
on
any
general
sale
for
an
event,
with
the
hope
that
we
would
actually
sell
it
out
with
just
Evanston
residents
and
not
even
have
to
go
on
a
public
sale.
That's
not
the
intent.
Okay
anyway.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
simply
put.
AA
We
are
proposing
to
receive
the
ability
to
host
a
limited
number
of
concerts
and
sporting
events
over
a
two
year
time
frame,
allowing
us
to
prove
the
ability
to
host
these
events
in
a
neighborly,
responsible
manner.
During
this
process,
we
have
met
with
city
staff,
our
alderwoman
several
times,
as
well
as
hosted
to
open
public
forums.
AA
We
have
heard
and
truly
and
sincerely
appreciate
the
feedback,
and
we
have
proactively
amended
our
request
from
the
original
one
to
limit
the
events
to
7,000
spectators
or
less,
and
also
we
recommended
to
include
a
sunset
provision
as
a
show
of
faith
that
we
are
intent
to
prove
ourselves
to
our
neighbors
nearby.
We
simply
want
the
chance
to
deliver
on
our
commitment.
Our
hope
is
to
bring
another
layer
of
cultural
entertainment
to
this
wonderful
city
of
Evanston,
while
generating
incremental
revenues
to
the
city
and
the
athletic
department.
AA
AA
AB
Thank
you,
chairman
members
of
the
Commission,
my
name
again
is
Dave
Davis
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
neighborhood
and
community
relations
for
Northwestern,
University
and
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
comments.
You'll
hear
tonight
a
lot
of
the
concerns
from
the
neighbors
about
sporting
events,
about
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
we've
worked
with
the
residents
and
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
we
will
continue
working
with
the
residents
to
try
to
find
a
solution
that
makes
everyone
feel
comfortable.
AB
We've
been
empathetic
the
entire
time.
We've
listened.
We've
made
changes
to
our
proposal
based
on
their
suggestions,
and
we
also
understand
that
there
may
be
a
continuance
tonight,
so
we
would
love
to
hear
from
the
Commission
your
concerns,
as
well
as
our
neighbors,
which
we've
heard
from
loud
and
clearly
over
the
past
few
months.
So
just
want
to
say
that,
and
also
as
we
move
forward,
we
would
respectfully
request
your
favorable
recommendation
on
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
AA
We
feel
very
confident
that,
first
of
all,
with
the
intent
of
having
concerts
the
reality,
is
we'll
probably
have
a
capacity
of
while
trying
to
read
up
closer
to
6000,
maybe
even
a
touch
less
a
lot
of
it
and
our,
and
when
we've
had
conversations
with
our
neighbors
they've
been
frustrated,
I'm
trying
not
to
be
coy
at
all.
We
just
don't
know
exactly
what's
gonna
transpire
based
upon
the
act,
but
most
acts
will
necessitate
the
stage
and
a
whole
bunch
of
seat
kills.
AA
So
the
reality
is,
it
will
probably
be
significantly
less
than
7,000,
but
we'll
try
and
have
as
many
people
possible.
We
have
two
thousand
spots
roughly
between
the
east
lot
and
the
west
lot.
Most
people
who
do
drive
to
events
come
with
several
people
roughly
at
least
another
person,
there's
obviously
ample
public
transportation.
We
have
dedicated
Oberer
and
lyft
and
other
ride-sharing
services
available,
and
then
we
certainly
hope
a
lot
of
people
find
their
way
just
by
walking.
AA
We
have
sold-out
basketball
games
consistently
over
the
last
decade,
where
I've
been
there,
and
we
have
not
had
a
lot
of
issues
now.
I
will
say
one
thing
and
then
the
neighbors
educated
us
on
this
a
lot
of
our
fans,
a
lot
of
customers,
don't
want
to
pay
for
parking
and
what
they
want
to
do.
Instead
is
they
want
to
park
in
the
neighborhood,
which
caused
a
significant
congestion?
We
have
already
expressed
to
our
neighbors
that
we
would
be
more
than
willing
to
open
up
the
Lots
for
free.
AA
If
that
would
potentially
offset
some
of
the
congestion.
They
then
educated
us
a
little
bit
further
that
some
people
still
won't
do
it,
because
they
want
to
be
able
to
get
out
early
and
not
wait
for
the
the
egress
of
the
lot,
but
we
still
think
it's
a
potential
benefit
in
that
particular
regard.
And
then
we
won
one
last
comment:
you
talked
about
ticket
tax
and
amusement
tax
there
there
is.
There
is
a
difference
and
you
know
I
think
I
misspoke.
AA
The
last
time
I
was
with
the
neighbors
just
simply
because
we've
never
really
had
an
amusement
tax
before
we
pay
a
ticket
tax
for
all
of
our
athletic
events
of
12%,
and
that
is
the
largest
ticket
tax
in
the
country.
Our
amusement
tax,
as
and
as
it
sits
today,
is
structured
at
four
percent.
We
are
very
happy
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
amending
that
to
make
it
more
beneficial
to
the
city.
A
AA
Certainly
would
be
open
to
anything
we
don't.
We
don't
believe
it
will
be
an
issue,
as
I
said,
along
with
with
a
lot
of
our
solid
for
basketball,
we
haven't
that
type
of
a
concern
from
our
patrons.
Our
neighbors
might
feel
otherwise
and
we'd
be
happy
to
try
something
out
to
see
if
that
would
alleviate
the
concern.
N
So
just
to
be
just
to
understand,
this
would
be
and
be
clear,
you're
talking
about
additional
events
right
in
in
the
calendar
year.
If
I
don't
know
how
many
events
you
typically
have,
but
with
this
change
there
would
be
additional
events,
because
I
think
that's
that's
I
haven't
heard
from
the
neighbors,
but
I
am
that
might
be
one
of
the
issues
or.
AA
D
AA
Annually
plus
one
multi
event,
which
has
been
causing
a
little
bit
of
confusion.
Actually
the
impetus
was
the
the
national
tennis
league
had
approached
us
well-well
back.
Maybe
it
was
in
December
of
last
year
asking
if
they
can
have
a
Chicago
area
team
that
would
play
seven
events
during
a
league,
so
those
would
be
seven
individual
days
where
maybe
we
had
1500
people
that
would
come
to
well
shrine
or
you
know,
watch
a
tennis
tournament
and
we're
talking
about
pretty
prominent
names.
AA
That's
what
we
were
envisioning
on
a
multi
event
basis,
we're
also
very
comfortable
and
amending
that
to
a
particular
number
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
comfortable
with
it.
We're
not
looking
at
it
as
an
opportunity
to
to
make
a
break
here
and
turn
something
into
a
twenty
day.
Event
series
it
was
just
intended
specifically
for
the
world
tennis
team.
A
Q
AA
Have
some
really
rough
numbers
and
it's
been
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
running
joke
that
they
don't
understand.
The
neighbors
are
confused.
Why
I
can't
give
them
specifics?
There's
a
big
difference
between
Paul
McCartney
coming
and
Eddie
Vedder
coming
or
if
we
have
a
up-and-coming
country
act
as
far
as
the
amount
of
seats
that
we
would
sell
and
the
tickets
that
we
can
charge.
But
this
is
an
example
if
we
were
to
unless
say
we
wanted
to
go
out
and
we
were
able
to
secure
which
I
have
no
idea.
AA
If
we're
going
to
be
able
to
secure
substantial
types
of
Acts
initially,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
of
a
process,
but
we
obviously
are
only
having
two
years
to
prove
ourselves,
but
let's
say
Paul
McCartney
comes,
and
we
have
6,000
people
that
come
in
because
that's
the
capacity
with
the
stage
and
such
and
the
average
ticket
price
is
$100.
So
that's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
are
coming
in
and
let's
say
that
we
agree
on
an
amendment
on
the
amusement
tax
and
for
simplicity.
AA
We
say
it's
ten
percent,
so
there's
sixty
thousand
dollars
that
comes
in
just
in
that
multiply
that
by
six
events,
hopefully
in
a
similar
way,
you're
coming
in
close
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That's
not
including
any
ancillary
events
and
ancillary
taxes
that
we
hope
also
as
part
of
it,
such
as
the
liquor
ability
to
sell
within
those
events
and
then
finally,
it's
impossible
to
quantify
the
benefit
to
the
city.
AA
When
you
have
some
really
good
acts
coming
and
hopefully
we're
bringing
in
thousands
of
people
during
the
course
of
these
shows
that
haven't
been
Evanston
before
and
they
enjoy
some
restaurants
and
they
maybe
stay
at
the
hotel
and
they
do
a
variety
of
other
things.
So
some
of
that's
very
hard
to
determine.
A
AA
Our
football
games-
currently
we
had
a
really
nice
community
picnic
and
movie
night
last
Saturday
I,
don't
think
the
number
got
there,
but
it
was
a
nice,
a
nice
number
and
we
have
a
meet
the
teen
night
where
the
city
is
invited
and
it's
open
to
the
public
to
meet
our
our
football
team
leading
into
the
season.
We
also
had
the
Randy
Walker
memorial
five-k,
which
the
the
race
culminates
there.
AA
N
So
to
translate
that
this
would
double
the
amount
of
events
that
are
that
are.
That
cannot
be
accommodated
in
the
parking
lot.
If
you
said
that,
there's
7,
the
only
events
that
that
are
above
2000,
which
is
the
number
in
the
parking
lot,
are
football
games
and
there's
7
of
those.
Then
if
there
are
6
more
no.
AA
F
A
G
T
AA
Actually
have
ok
well,
we
we
have
a
special
event
this
year
with
Ohio
State,
and
we
have
been
meeting,
maybe
every
four
to
five
weeks
with
representatives
from
the
hospital,
the
Nu
PD,
the
fire
department,
the
traffic
control,
the
police
department,
emergency
services
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
is
appropriate
to
in
to
ensure
the
the
ways
of
traffic
well.
But.
AA
City
initiative:
it's
not
a
Northwestern
initiative
and
they
actually
initiated
it
a
little
bit
last
season
for
a
touch
and
I
think
there
were
some
pros
and
cons
to
it
and-
and
the
city
made
some
amendments
to
it.
But
I
do
believe
that
it's
in
discussion
again
for
them
to
do
on
some
of
the
streets
that
are
adjacent
to
Central
Street.
So.
T
A
C
Yeah
sorry
I'm
doing
this
piecemeal
here.
How
often
are
there
more
than
one
event?
Let's
say
that
has
more
than
500
attendees
on
the
at
the
athletic
campus
is
what
we'll
call
it
right.
So
you
have
baseball,
softball,
basketball,
so
Walsh,
Ryan
and
and
Ryan
field.
How
often
are
you
having
events,
multiple
events
in
one
day,
that's
question
number
one
and
then
number
two:
is
it
contemplated
that
you
would
have
with
you
know
with
these
other
events,
these
temporary
events
that
you
would
have
multiple
events
in
one
day,
okay,.
AA
Let
me
try
it
from
the
first.
The
first
thing
is
from
a
football
standpoint:
whenever
we
have
a
football
game,
we
do
not
have
additional
events
or
that's
certainly
our
intent,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
staffing
to
do
it
and
we
don't
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
it
to
have
a
football
game
at
2:30
and
then
a
volleyball
match
that
night.
It
just
generally
doesn't
work,
so
we
avoid
that
at
all
costs.
AA
So
the
answer
is
almost
never
I
can't
recall
one,
but
I
can't
say
that
it's
never
happened
as
it
relates
to
events
in
the
area.
We
sometimes
have
double
headers.
If
you
will
at
Walsh
Ryan
arena
where
we
might
have
a
women's
basketball
game
at
one
o'clock
and
then
maybe
a
wrestling
meet
later
that
day.
Sometimes
we've
had
a
men's
basketball
game
at
a
women's
basketball
game
on
the
same
day,
but
separated
by
a
significant
amount
of
hours.
And
again
it's
it's
generally
a
really
controlled
crowd.
AA
Our
men's
basketball
program
is
the
only
one
that
generates
a
get
enough
crowd
to,
in
my
opinion,
be
very
concerned
about
making
sure
that
the
the
infrastructure
is
handled.
The
right
way
and
we
handle
logistics.
We
will
have
a
baseball
game
in
a
softball
game
at
the
same
time,
but
there
might
be
150
people
at
the
baseball
game
and
200
people
at
a
softball
game.
AA
C
AA
That
would
be
truly
an
impossibility
based
upon
just
the
need
for
a
set
up
in
the
speaker
systems
and
all
the
infrastructure
that
goes
into
it.
What
would
what
would
likely
occur
is
that
we
may
have
an
event.
Let's
say
they
were
gonna
have
a
Saturday
concert
in
Walsh,
Ryan
Arena,
maybe
there's
a
Friday
night
event
and
the
moment
that
that
Friday
net
is
done.
Then
the
place
is
broken
down.
The
crew
changes
it
over
to
the
concert
and
then
the
concert
takes
place
and
they
have
the
soundcheck
and
all
the
things
Saturdays.
N
AA
A
A
Just
summarize
it
you
know,
so
that
basically
said
that
asked
for
consideration
on
request
for
withdrawal
that
showing
that
the
person
could
not
proceed
with
his
or
her
evidence
for
the
hearing
at
good
cause.
The
good
cause
was
presented
as
as,
basically
that
it's
August
and
people
are
on
vacation.
I
I
have
to
consider
this
kind
of
impossibility,
or
we
would
be
shutting
down
Evanston's
procedures
if,
if
that
was
that
was
a
good
cause
to
go
on
vacation
is
not
necessarily.
D
AC
AD
Right,
26:39,
Eastwood
I'm
right
on
the
alley
from
the
facilities
and
I
request,
also
because
we've
had
less
than
three
days
notice,
in
fact,
I've,
never
gotten
notice,
and
so
it's
impossible
for
me
to
have
prepared
or
any
of
these
other
people
to
have
prepared
the
type
of
presentation
that
these
gentlemen
have
had
for
quite
some
time.
They
continue
to
amend
their
approaches.
So
my
my
reasoning
is
because
of
a
lack
of
notice
and
inability
to
prepare
all.
A
Right
well,
I
believe
we
stated
that
that
that
the
the
hearing
was
was
needs
the
choir,
the
requirements
for
notice
notice.
You
can
give
it
to
me
and
we'll
pass
it
down,
but
I
believe
this
is
just.
This
is
the
same
wording
as
the
as
the
prior
is
everyone
else,
who's
presenting
giving
the
same
wording
the
same
document,
all
right,
so
there's
no
other
other.
AD
E
AD
E
I'm
Laurie
McFarland
at
2728
and
I
just
for
clarification.
Many
of
the
neighbors
here
did
not
see
the
revived
proposal
from
Northwestern
because
it
was
presented
Monday,
night,
I,
guess
at
a
community
meeting
and
at
that
point
in
time
they
said
they
were
still
revising
it.
So
many
of
the
neighbors
feel
that
they
have
specific
pieces
of
evidence
regarding
property
value
regarding
the
amount
of
the
effect
on
businesses
in
the
area.
E
A
Z
Z
Cheerios
yeah
quickly,
just
just
so
everyone's
focused
on
the
rules
in
the
law.
What
your
rule
is
is
on
article
13,
yes
of
the
Planning
Commission
rules.
It
sets
out
the
rules
for
persons
or
groups
with
ownership
interests
in
property
within
500
feet
in
the
case
of
amendments,
which
is
what
we
have
here
in
each
direction
of
the
subject:
part
property,
inclusive
of
public
road
streets,
alleys
and
other
public
ways
who
wish
to
object,
shall,
upon
request,
be
granted.
One
continuance
for
the
purpose
of
presenting
evidence
to
rebut
testimony
so.
Z
G
E
Z
E
Z
E
We
we
do
understand
that
this
is
for
the
purpose
of
providing
testimony
that
has
been
presented,
and
you
know
the
standards
to
be
applied
here.
There
are
there's
some
evidence.
That's
been
presented,
there's
also
frankly,
sort
of
a
lack
of
evidence
on
some
points,
and
there
is
contrary
evidence
and
that
all
of
that
is
is,
but
it
is
all
evidence
oriented.
Okay,.
E
A
Z
A
AC
Z
Z
A
A
A
G
A
G
G
AE
AE
F
F
B
September
11th
meeting
is
the
standard
regularly
scheduled,
meaning
the
August
28th
would
be
a
special
meeting.
That's
been
planned.
That
was
basically
just
confirmed
that
we
had
a
quorum
for
that
and-
and
that
has
happened
from
time
to
time
where
we
do
have
additional
meetings-
that's
actually
regular
schedule
of
ones.
It
would
be
seven
o'clock
or
but.
A
AG
AF
AF
Want
to
point
out
that
there
is
conflation
conflating
going
on.
As
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
meeting,
Megan
Jones
pointed
out
that
the
Bears
played
at
the
arena.
They
did
not
play
at
the
arena.
They
obviously
played
at
Ryan
Field,
but
there's
a
lot
of
that
conflating
going
on.
Also.
Similarly
Paul
McCartney
would
never
play
at
a
venue
of
7,000
people.
He
played
to
an
audience
of
184,000
people,
so
aren't
they
talking
about
Ryan
Field
there
we
don't
know
they
say
not,
but
that's.
AF
That
would
be
little
Spencer
ticket.
None
of
us
could
afford
it.
As
commissioner
Halleck
pointed
out,
there
wasn't
a
request
for
an
additional
six
to
seven
events,
but
it
should
also
be
noted
that
it's
six
to
seven
events
of
a
very
different
nature,
so
they
are
asking
for
professional
events
potentially
with
alcohol
served,
which
is
very
different
than
what
is
happening
now,
it's
not
just
another.
A
AF
AF
If
we're
going
to
serve
alcohol,
they
say
there's
no
interest
in
that,
but
if
Paul
McCartney
played
the
stadium,
what
they
want
to
serve
beer,
probably
anyway,
I
just
want
to
point
out
and
I-
think
it's
important
there's
a
lot
of
conflating
going
on
and
the
arena
is
a
very
different
venue
than
Ryan
field
and
I
think
it's
important
to
separate
them
and
separate
the
rules
and
clarify
what
rules
apply
to
which
venue.
Otherwise,
because
obviously
we
don't
want
the
risk
of
changing
the
rules
for
the
arena
and
then
suddenly
have
that.
A
U
You
a
couple
quick
questions
and
then
a
comment
or
comment
on
a
couple:
questions
I
am
president
of
central
street
neighbors,
Association
and
volunteered
to
help
maybe
even
mitigate
this
scenario,
with
the
neighbors
and
Northwestern,
so
we're,
hopefully,
gonna
help
get
involved
with,
hopefully
the
alderman.
Who
should
be
here
saying
what
are
the
neighbors
concerns?
What
is
the
Northwestern's
issues
and
trying
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
this
problem,
rather
than
the
neighbors
in
Northwest
Jim,
just
constantly
butting
heads
against
each
other?
So
that's
the
first
question
you
did
receive
my
email.
U
I
was
on
a
commission
like
yours
for
ten
years
here
in
the
city,
we
never
took
action
in
August
on
something
that
had
such
effect
on
the
neighbors,
because
we
knew
a
ton
of
parents
and
a
ton
of
families
were
out
on
vacation.
So
I
understand
what
you're
saying
you
would
never
get
work
done,
but
I
disagree.
We
would
never
take
this
kind
of
action
and
that's
kind
of
been
the
concern
of
some
of
the
neighbors.
Is
that
oh,
it's
getting
pushed
through
when
nobody's
around?
So
let's
make
that
clear
on
my
email,
three
questions.
U
This
specific
new
adjustment
does
not
specifically
say
only
welsh
ryan
arena.
We
could
have
7,000
people
in
the
field
and
have
an
event
there
and
have
a
concert
there
with
only
7,000
tickets
sold.
So
we
need
to
understand
those
labors
that
it's
not
just
specifically
welsh
ryan.
It
is
ryan
field
as
well.
So
this
does
not
specifically-
and
it
goes
indifference
to
what
was
said
monday
night-
that
it
was
only
going
to
be
welsh,
ryan
arena.
This
says
any
youtube.
U
We
could
have
7,000
people
on
the
baseball
field
as
well
holding
an
event,
so,
let's
make
sure
we're
all
clear
and
I
agree
with
you,
we're
all
clear
that
it
could
be
anywhere
in
the
YouTube
area.
So
let's
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
that
couple
questions
the
city
special
events
committee
is
at
a
city
council
committee.
Is
that
a
staff
committee?
Is
it
a
mixture
of
both?
Does
anybody
know.
U
U
G
Z
Jerilyn
kind
of
clarify
something:
yes,
so
the
special
City
currently
approves
specialist.
Some
special
special
events
is
actually
a
term
of
art
right
now,
and
it's
defined
as
all
outdoor
events
requested
on
city
property,
ie,
Street,
sidewalk
park
and
or
deemed
to
significant
impact.
I
see,
are
considered
special
events.
Z
All
all
events
that
recall
all
event
an
event
that
requires
City
Council
approval
is
a
special
event.
So,
yes,
City
Council
does
approve
many
special
events,
for
instance
the
out
of
space
concert.
It
goes
on
at
Canal
shores.
That
was
one
of
the
special
events
that
was
approved
by
City
Council
I'm
at
our
content.
When
we
come
back
from
our
continuance,
I
can
have
the
list
of
previous
the
the
ordinance
that
included
the
previous
list,
and
we
can
include
that
packet
together
some
contents
and
provides
more
information
on
this
topic,
but.
Z
U
The
other
question
is
the
six
single
day.
Events
don't
need
permission
from
anybody,
it
the
way
it's
written
right,
it's
just
the
multi-day
event
that
needs
permission
from
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
those
six
events
as
long
as
they
fit
some
of
the
other
stuff
doesn't
need
any
permission
from
anybody
that
corrects.
B
U
Then
my
last
question
is
currently:
they
are
allowed
to
have
seven
events,
so
this
isn't
adding
seven
new
events.
Currently
they
are
allowed
to
have
seven
events.
They
are
events
that
have
to
be
of
a
nonprofit
nature
and
and
amateur
athletic
events,
so
we're
not
adding
seven
more
events,
we're
just
changing
the
seven
events
that
they
bicode
already
have
the
ability
for
how
is
it
adding.
F
Y
B
U
A
A
AH
I've
lived
in
Evanston
for
28
years
near
the
stadium,
because
you've
scheduled
this
in
August,
when
if
the
gentleman
said
it's
ridiculous
for
something
of
this
great
import,
when
people
are
on
vacation,
I
planned
a
vacation
six
months
ago,
we're
gonna
be
leaving
on
the
28th.
So
I've
got
to
speak
now.
I
have
some
questions
I'd
like
to
ask
the
presenters
based
upon
what
was
just
brought
out?
How
many
events
have
you
put
on
under
the
existing
code,
which
allows
you
seven
events
that
you
have
to
get
permission
to
go
to
the
City
Council
for.
AH
AH
Should
have
known
from
what
you're
saying
so
let
me
get
the
quick
question:
I
have
okay,
but
the
other
question
I
have
is
is
to
ask
the
the
applicants
is:
did
they?
Why
are
they
if
this
is
all
about
Welsh
Ryan
arena?
Why
didn't
they
just
say
Welsh
Ryan
arena
in
the
application
instead
of
the
number
7,000?
AH
The
second
question
is:
is:
did
you
consult
an
attorney
from
Northwestern
when
you
made
that
decision
not
to
name
Welsh
Ryan
arena
as
the
venue,
instead
of
putting
it
as
sound
or
7,000
people
which
we
all
know,
is
Welsh
Ryan
arena
and
not
Dyke
Stadium,
which
I
still
call
it?
Because
you
know
those
of
us
who
have
lived
here
for
a
long
time,
still
think
of
it
as
Dyke
Stadium.
So
those
are
the
two
questions
I
have
for
the
applicants.
Okay,.
AA
I'll
just
answer
the
first
question
we
generally
have
had
maybe
one
additional
event
we
had
in
in
fact
carly
rae
jepsen
for
those
of
you
who
know
who
she
is
she.
She
played
a
concert:
November
16th
of
2018
a
couple
of
days
after
the
opening
of
the
newly
constructed
wall
shrine
arena,
and
that
was
a
student-run
concert.
So
we,
the
students,
have
had
a
concert
there
generally
once
a
year
or
so
and
I'm
not
trying
to
to
cause
problems.
AA
But
I
just
want
to
make
one
quick
comment
about
the
Paul
McCartney
comment
in
June
of
2018
Paul
McCartney
is
planning
to
do.
Some
small
venue
shows
loves
the
intimacy
of
it
and
a
variety
of
other
things,
as
opposed
to
playing
in
front
of
40
or
50
thousand
people.
So
I
just
you
know
what
we
just
want
to
stay
with
just
backs
and
and
be
reasonable,
so
I'm
gonna,
let
Dave
answer
the
second
question.
Okay,.
AB
Thank
You
commissioners.
So
again,
the
question
if
I
understand,
is
why
we
listed
7,000
as
the
capacity
instead
of
specifically
saying
Walsh
Ryan
arena
and
identifying
one
of
our
facilities.
Now,
there's
no
nefarious
reason
behind
doing
that.
After
reading
the
ordinance
we
felt
that
was
more
consistent
with
the
language
and
that
it
made
more
sense
to
list
7,000
instead
of
identifying
a
specific
facility,
because
we
didn't
know
what
other
unattended
consequences
that
could
cause,
and
so
it's
simply
that's
the
reason
again.
AB
There's
there's
you
know
I'm,
not
sure,
I
understand
why
there's
the
concern
well
I
do
understand,
but
you
know
I
think
the
the
notion
here
is
that
we're
trying
to
do
something
again,
the
Farias
and
that's
not
the
intent
at
all.
We
just
thought
that
would
be
more
consistent
with
the
language
in
the
ordinance
would.
AB
I
mean
we're
open
to
a
lot
of
things,
and
you
know
that's
why
we've
been
talking
to
the
neighbors
for
the
past.
You
know
three
three
four
months
now
and
so
we're
what
we've
had
two
public
events.
It
will
continue
to
talk
to
the
neighbors
I
mean
that's.
Why
we're
here?
We
would
love
to
get
recommendations
from
the
Commission
as
well
as
continue
to
work
with
the
residents.
AB
AH
Just
the
reason
I
ask
those
questions
is
one
because
of
the
the
chairman.
You
were
suggesting
that
they're
not
actually
adding
any
events,
they're
subtracting
them.
Well,
they
question
they
essentially
don't
put
on
any
events
under
the
existing
code.
They
just
said
that
you
know
like
one
a
year,
maybe
and
as
far
as
I
know,
I
don't
remember.
AH
AH
AH
People
is
because
it
was
not
going
to
be
about
the
money,
since
they
were
not
profit
by
definition
so
and
the
reason
I
asked
about
why
they're
not
naming-
and
you
proposed
saying
indoors,
you
know
without
getting
into
the
map
text
controversy,
there
may
be
legal
consequences
as
to
daming
a
specific
building
in
the
district,
and
that's
why
I'm
convinced
it's
not
welsh
ryan
arena,
but
they
came
up
with
with
this.
So
I
think
we
think
it's
de
facto
a
map
amendment.
AH
A
A
So,
according
to
the
rules,
notice
has
been
given
for
this
for
this
meeting
and
that
satisfies
the
the
notice
requirements.
So
this
so
so
the
next
one
is
a
continuance
of
this
meeting.
So
it's
already
been
noticed.
It's
already
been
noticed
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
please
so
you
know:
okay,
all
right
so
yeah
I.
R
D
Asbury,
so
I
was
just
curious,
whether
if
these
are
professional
events
is
there
any
anticipated
income
from
say,
televised,
rites
or
anything
like
this.
That's
anticipated
by
the
organizers
that
would
produce
additional
income
and
is
there
any
thoughts
that
there
might
be
also
revenue
generated
for
the
city
of
Evanston
for
such
rights
and
the
other
question
I
had
is
if
their
arse
was
mentioned,
six
single
day,
events
that
do
not
require
any
further
coordination
with
the
city.
D
AA
AA
We
try
to
do
that
as
consistently
as
possible.
We
don't
always
have
the
ability
to
pick
and
choose,
as
you
can
imagine,
with
our
19
programs
and
the
six
programs
that
play
well
shrine
arena
and
football
and
and
the
broadcast
that
goes
behind
it.
We're
told
most
of
the
time
when
our
events
are
so
if
we're
told
when
most
of
our
events
are,
there
were
gonna,
be
very
few
windows
where
there's
gonna
be
open,
Friday
or
Thursday
or
Saturday,
but
we
would
endeavour
to
do
so.
AA
A
J
My
name
is
Joyce
first
Vicki
I'm
at
900,
Greenwood
Street,
Evanston
Illinois
has
right
the
speech.
Disorder
I'd
like
to
know
of
these
events.
Are
they
having
their
besides
liquor?
Are
they
hosting
their
own
type
of
food,
I,
actually
go
out
to
New
Orleans
Jazz
Fest,
the
French
Quarter
is
no.
One
goes
then
gets
flooded
when
the
people
come
back
from
the
fest.
J
AA
We
will
sell
concessions
at
all
the
events
just
like
we
currently
do
with
football
and
all
the
events
of
well
shrine
arena.
We
do
believe,
based
upon
the
feedback
that
we
received
from
a
lot
of
our
local
businesses
that
there's
still
some
nice
patience
because
a
lot
of
our
consumers
don't
want
to
spend
the
money
on
a
hotdog
or
a
thing
of
nachos
they'd
rather
enjoy
a
nice
meal.
One
of
the
great
restaurants
in
Evanston.
U
AG
I'm
very
versed
in
the
2647
Eastwood,
our
property,
about
the
Western
parking
lot,
and
my
question
is
I
noticed
I
noticed
up
there.
There
mentions
of
lighting
and
tractor
trailers,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
any
other
stipulations
or
restrictions
on
setting
up
taking
down
cleaning,
because
it's
not
at
all
unusual
for
noise
to
begin
at
6
a.m.
and
go
well
past
11
p.m.
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
were
any
city
rules
or
north-western
restrictions
on
that.
AA
We
always
abide
by
the
11
o'clock
noise
ordinance
in
our
place
as
it
relates
to
where
trucks
and
other
miss
necessary
vehicles
would
go.
We're
really
pleased
that
we
have
had
as
part
of
the
renovation
we
have
carved
out
a
big
area
on
the
northern
part
of
the
plot
north
of
the
softball
stadium
and
adjacent
to
the
outfield
of
the
baseball
stadium,
a
whole
bunch
of
additional
parking
spaces
and
other
areas
where
we
can
store
things
which
will
take
away
from
the
congestion
that
has
occasionally
occurred.
AG
I'm
talking
about
the
fact
that
from
my
bedroom
I
can
hear
what
goes
on
in
Wells,
Ryan
or
after
football
games
the
morning
after
I
hear
like
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang,
bang
I,
don't
know
whether
it's
bleachers
being
set
up
or
taken
down.
It's
not
outside
people
coming
in
it's
its
interior
noises
that
are
very
loud
in.
I
AA
AG
Sorry
well,
I
will
also-
and
you
know
if
we're
talking
about
it-
could
also
be
an
exterior
event
and
it's
7,000
people
on
the
football
field.
Again,
if
it's
an
evening
event
the
next
morning,
you
guys
are
out
there
cleaning
doing
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
I
can't
identify
the
noises
or
your
trucks
are
going
inside
the
stadium
property
and
it's
really
loud
and
it
starts
very
early
or
the
the
parking
people
come
out
at
6:00
a.m.
to
start
setting
up
so
that
the
tailgaters
can
come
at
7:00
a.m.
so
you
know
it's.
AA
A
A
F
A
Know
but
but
a
noise
ordinance
is
a
noise
ordinance
right.
Whoever
makes
the
noise
so
yeah
whether
you're
mowing
your
lawn
or
whatever,
so
all
right
all
right
how
anyone
else,
and
by
the
way,
can
you
pass
that
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
tonight?
All
right
we
have.
We
have
received
petitions
for
continuance.