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A
A
All
right,
the
hour
of
6:45
having
come
and
gone,
and
a
quorum
being
present
I'd
like
to
call
the
order.
The
Planning
and
Development
Committee
first
item
up
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
of
January
13th
2020
do
I
have
a
motion
all
right,
it's
been
moved
in
second.
Is
there
any
all
in
favor
any
opposed
all
right?
The
minutes
have
been
approved.
The
next
item
is
PM
1,
which
is
staff,
recommends
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
of
January
13th
2020
plan
development
committee.
This
is
for
action.
A
Is
there
a
motion?
Second,
all
right,
it's
been
moved
in
a
second
it
does
anybody
have
any
additions
or
Corrections
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
of
the
January
13th
2020
meeting,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
That
has
been
done.
We're
now
item
three,
which
is
public
comment.
We
have
four
people
signed
up
for
public
comment,
so
it'll
be
Doreen
price,
followed
by
Greg,
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
know
who
can't
read
your
last
name:
Mike,
Nolan
and
John
lab
so
Doreen
price,
Doreen
I
see
you
Doreen
price.
B
B
So
our
planning
and
development
yes-man
k4p,
for
I
want
to
speak
for
something
obviously
dear
to
my
heart.
It
still
kind
of
an
open
wound.
It
has
to
do
preserving
trees
but
doing
it
in
such
a
way
that
we
actually
preserve
trees
and
there's
so
many
factors
that
can
intervene
with
the
best
intentions
so
I'm
going
at
the
fact
that
these
are
the
best
intentions
here,
but
they
need
more
protection
to
be
done
properly.
First,
you
need
to
have
zoning
change,
the
rule,
which
goes
back
even
further
than
this
particular
thing.
B
With
regard
to
notifying
neighbors,
we
have
to
go
back
to
notify
neighbors
when
something's
being
done,
because
they
know
the
history.
They
know
the
problems
with
the
drainage
they
know
what's
planted.
They
know
what
is
important.
If
you
send
somebody
they're,
isolated
I
can
guarantee
you
they'll
make
a
decision
that
you
mean
agree
with
and
live
with
it
for
the
rest
of
your
life.
B
My
tree
did
not
yield
easily.
Not
one
branch
fell
involuntarily.
Fifty
mile
an
hour
wind
did
not
knock
it
down.
Two
weeks
earlier,
every
single,
every
single
limb
that
was
cut
every
single
limb
lowered
by
eight
people
who
loved
it
dearly
and
saw
that
with
their
family
grow
up,
grow.
I
was
twenty
years
old,
but
admired
it.
It
was
considered
the
most
beautiful
tree
on
the
block.
B
You
don't
rush
people
making
decisions
that
are
going
to
have
that
kind
of
harm.
So
whatever
you
do
do
not
rush
second
thing
is
is
get
a
second
opinion.
Please
let
it
be
outside
the
city.
I
did
not
know
that
I
didn't
have
the
time.
I
was
being
rushed
to
do.
This
I
was
being
rushed
to
do
this
because
someone
was
panicking
and
fearful.
I
understand
fear,
that's
why
I
have
a
dog,
but
we
don't
do
things
in
rash
ways.
B
When
there's
lots
of
good
reasons,
every
expert
would
tell
that
tree
was
there
to
stay
still
for
at
least
another
24
hours.
I
say
that
facetiously.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
that
make
sure
neighbors
are
notified?
Make
sure
when
you're
looking
in
a
permeable
surface,
I
can
tell
you
for
a
fact.
You
can
have
things
that
look
good
on
code,
but
might
not
necessarily
work,
and
then
you
spend
the
rest
of
your
life
trying
to
fix
that
now.
B
I
see
that
in
a
harsh
way
only
to
emphasize
and
not
to
to
make
problems
because
I
understand
mistakes
can
be
made.
What
the
hardest
thing
is
is
undo
a
mistake.
So,
like
my
tree,
if
you
can
undo
a
mistake
or
you
can
never
undo
a
mistake,
then
please
stop
rushing
into
things
and
I
really
appreciate.
If
the
council
will
allow
neighbors
or
people
like
me,
the
time
because
I
don't
I'm,
not
an
expert,
and
you
have
great
experts,
so
I
have
to
learn
to
be
an
expert
or
short
period
of
time.
That's
hard.
So.
B
B
A
D
E
A
F
Okay
good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
tonight.
I
am
a
person
er
of
st.
Anthony
shoe
school
I
have
one
child
who's
graduated
from
st.
st.
Anthony's
I've
had
one
child
that
is
there
today.
I'm
a
member
of
the
facilities
in
maintenance,
sport
and
also
a
member
of
the
school
board.
I
would
think
again
like
to
thank
the
opportunity
for
being
able
to
comment
today,
I'd
like
to
thank
Eleanor
Ravel
for
the
assistance
in
this
matter.
I
understand
you've
done
a
nice
job
of
paying
attention
to
the
details.
F
To
this,
our
interests
are
real,
simple.
It's
really
in
the
interest
of
safety
for
the
children
at
the
school
by
expanding
the
parking
lot
in
in
modernizing
the
the
traffic
flow.
We
also
are
interested
in
the
safety
of
the
prisoners
of
the
larger
st.
Anthony's
community,
particularly
the
disabled,
in
those
that
have
a
hard
time
getting
around
the
property.
F
We
have
put
a
significant
effort
into
this
on
behalf
of
the
the
parish
in
the
school.
You
know
in
an
effort
to
reach
the
sort
of
the
best
result
for
all
here.
However,
I
just
want
to
remind
the
committee
that
we
do
have
limited
resources
here,
and
you
know
we
would
like
to
see
some
sort
of
conclusion
on
this
matter.
It
has
been
pending
for
some
time.
That
is
all
thank
you
and.
A
E
In
1727,
I
live
in
1726,
Chancellor,
Street,
nemesis
and
I
also
owned
the
house
of
1727
Harrison
Street
within
500
feet
of
the
subject
property.
My
wife
and
I
have
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
13
years.
We
have
two
children
at
st.
Athanasius
school
and
we're
parishioners
there.
I
want
to
speak,
in
behalf,
are
in
favor
of
the
proposal
for
the
Eastwood
property.
The
proposal
is
a
modest
proposal
to
change
the
eastwood
lot.
Currently
it
has
14
parking
spaces
and
is
otherwise
vacant.
E
The
proposal
is
to
modify
it
to
have
22
parking
spaces,
a
modest
increase,
otherwise
to
convert
the
property
to
landscaped
open
space.
In
my
view,
this
would
be
a
significant
improvement
to
the
subject
property,
making
it
more
appealing
both
visually
and
functionally
than
it's
ever
been
in
the
13
years
that
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood.
The
second
thing
I'd
like
to
address
are
the
objections
of
the
CBA.
E
The
first
objection
was
that
this
parking
shouldn't
be
used
for
game
day
as
I
understand
the
parish's
agreed
that
the
parking
on
the
subject
property
all
22
spaces
will
not
be
used
for
game
day
parking.
As
far
as
I
know,
this
is
the
only
entity
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
that's
been
asked
that
has
agreed
to
not
have
parking
on
game
day.
That's
a
significant
concession
by
the
parish,
not
just
the
eight
new
spaces,
but
all
22
spaces
on
the
subject.
Property
won't
be
used
for
game
day
renting.
E
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
address
is
that
some
neighbors
have
complained
about
the
traffic
flow
there.
I
think.
The
first
thing
I'd
like
to
note
about
that
is
that
the
traffic
flow
is
a
completely
independent
issue
from
the
increase
of
parking
at
the
subject
property.
The
increase
in
parking
is
intended
to
alleviate
congestion
by
increasing
the
parking
available
for
the
staff
that
won't
be
anymore
parking.
Is
there
just
be
more
space
for
the
parking
on
a
school
day?
The
current
traffic
flow?
E
It
doesn't
appear
that
the
CBA
appreciated
this,
but
the
current
traffic
flow
is
one
that
the
city
itself
proposed
a
number
of
years
ago
in
order
to
reduce
congestion
on
the
city
streets.
That,
specifically,
you
remove
congestion
from
Ashland
and
move
it
primarily
into
the
church's
own
parking
lot.
There
is
a
proposal
in
the
ordinance
now
a
specific
proposal
that
has
never
been
tested.
E
That
would
call
for
additional
lanes
of
traffic
in
the
parish
lot
and
what
I
would
like
to
ask,
and
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself,
my
wife
and
a
number
of
parents
we
just
saw
this
plan
last
night-
is
that
the
ordinance
not
require
any
specific
traffic
flow
plan.
The
ordinance
is
directed
to
the
specific
lot,
not
the
traffic
flow.
It's
really
a
separate
issue.
E
I
can
understand
that
the
ordinance
might
require
the
parish
to
continue
to
work
with
the
city
on
traffic
flow
issues
that
the
parish
has
always
done
so,
but
I
would
ask
that
that
not
require
a
specific
plan
that
has
never
been
tested.
The
proposed
plan
can't
be
tested
because
it
requires
the
construction
on
the
subject
property
before
it
could
possibly
be
tested.
We
have
no
way
of
knowing
whether
the
proposed
plan
would
actually
work
or
be
safe
for
the
students
of
the
school.
So
I
would
ask
just
that.
E
A
G
G
H
You
a
little
further
information,
John
Lakota,
also
with
me
here.
John's
excuse
me,
Mike
Lakota
has
been
employed
by
us
to
take
a
look
at
the
plan,
help
us
with
design
and
overall
structure,
as
well
as
add
some
of
the
Lakota
groups,
history
and
expertise.
So,
as
you
heard
a
little
bit
here,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
move
forward
with
what
we
consider
a
fairly
simple
project,
which
is
expanding
the
parking
in
one
side
of
our
campus
and
decreasing
it
during
the
school
hours
in
another
side.
So
that's
just
a
net
zero
adjustment.
H
The
plan
was
also
to
in
wasn't
Curt.
We
were
encouraged
to
go
forward
with
a
couple
of
additional
items.
If
the
plan
moved
forward
which
it's
nice
to
see,
we
have
been
able
to
move
forward
and,
as
noted
mr.
vels
been
very
helpful,
so
we
were
asked
to
do
a
traffic
study.
The
city
helped
with
that.
We
move
forward
and
did
just
that.
A
plan
is
specifically
outlined
for
that
flow
of
traffic,
on
both
the
public
property
on
the
campus
site
and
the
campus
traffic
flow
itself.
So
we
are
broadly
in
agreement
with
that.
H
We
do,
as
as
you
may
have
heard,
from
John.
We
do
need
to
go
through
some
testing,
but
we
are
going
to
accept
that
as
a
live
event.
Once
the
construction
of
the
parking
lot
occurs,
we
will
then
go
forward
and
do
the
testing
of
that
that
plan
there's
no
other
way
to
do
it
until
we
get
the
construction
complete.
We
think
it
is
a
very
good
step
forward,
but
it
needs
a
little
bit
of
testing
and
we've
been
assured
that
the
city
will
work
with
us.
H
If
this
doesn't
work,
we
will
try
something
else:
working
with
DRP
a
working
with
yourselves.
As
I've
said,
we've
had
exceptional
help
from
the
city
exceptional
help
from
mr.
eval
to
move
this
gently
forward
and
satisfy
all
those
that
that
have
questions
about
it,
Mike
anything
on
the
specific
I
think.
C
You
did
it
I.
Think,
disappoint.
Elad
is
the
design
we
had
for
2503
eastwood,
it
is
an
expansion,
but
the
current
layout
is
an
ideal.
It
doesn't
actually
need
to
find
standards
or
code,
and
one
thing
about
our
proposal
is
we're
trying
to
work
within
the
code.
We've
asked
for
no
variances,
except
for
that.
This
is
a
special
use.
Technically,
the
sets
are
used
in
a
special
use
because
it's
institution,
so
the
new
plan
would
actually
bring
it
in
to
conformance
with
the
city's
design
standards
and
with
zoning
as
well.
Alright,.
A
Thank
you,
they're.
All
in
rows
like
to
sure.
G
G
He
staff
performed
to
traffic
counts
and
really
did
confirm
that
during
the
school
pickup
time
in
the
afternoon,
there
really
is
considerable
congestion
in
the
alley,
and
sometimes
cars
lining
up
on
Eastwood,
so
something
if
we
could
address
that
that
was
going
to
be
desirable
so
to
alleviate
the
traffic
backup.
We
have
the
updated
parish
circulation
plan
that
you
can
see
in
the
packet
on
page
265
and
there
are
really
three
key
components
of
it.
One
is
that
Sandi's
will
ensure
that
there
are
no
cars
parked
on
the
south.
G
Additionally,
as
noted
in
on
page
268
of
the
packet,
the
Paris
is
going
to
establish
and
enforce
keep
clear
zones
in
front
of
the
alley
facing
garages
with
some
high
visibility,
cross-hatching
striping
in
front
of
the
garages,
so
that
should
also
help
the
neighbors
as
well
so
altogether.
In
my
view,
the
expanded
south
parking
lot,
the
updated
circulation
plan
and
the
protective
measures
next
to
the
garages
will
bring
substantial
safety
improvements
for
the
students
during
the
school
day
and
go
a
long
way
towards
reducing
the
traffic
congestion
to
pickup
time.
G
I
do
have
one
amendment
to
make
to
the
ordinance
itself,
and
that
is
on
page
it's
it's
a
section.
Two
of
the
ordinance
and
I
didn't
know
what
page
that
was,
and
it's
basically
to
delete
the
phrase
and
can
construct
a
play
area
that
had
been
in
the
original
proposal
from
say
days,
but
they're
not
looking
to
construct
that
play
area.
So
I
moved
to
amend
ordinance,
166
0
19,
to
delete
the
phrase
in
section
2
and
construct
a
play
area.
G
G
G
And
then
just
to
kind
of
confirm,
so
the
parking
is
still
going
to
be
allowed
on
the
north
side
of
the
main
parking
lot
for
visitors
and
any
overflow
parking.
Just
it's
just
the
south.
Half
of
that
main
parking
lot
where
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
our
cars
parks
are
not
going
to
be
allowed
during
school
days,
and
then
yes,
you
know
we
expect
that
after
the
expanded
parking
is
created,
and
then
we
can
move
ahead
to
to
implement
this
new
circulation
plan.
G
D
J
K
Absolutely
p2
ordinance
3
o
20,
granting
major
major
zoning
relief
for
parking
to
retain
a
basement
dwelling
unit
at
2008,
Harrison
Street,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
and
staff
recommend
adoption
of
ordinance,
3
o
20,
granting
major
zoning
relief
for
for
parking
spaces
where
7
parking
spaces
are
required
to
allow
the
retention
of
a
basement
dwelling
unit
in
the
r5
general
residential
district
and
the
CSC
Central
Street
overlay
district.
The
applicant
has
complied
with
all
major
zoning
requirements
and
meets
all
the
standards
for
major
variation
for
this
district.
This
is
for
introduction.
L
G
A
I'll
go
ahead,
move
item,
P
3,
which
is
ordinance
2300,
20
amending
title
6,
cannabis,
use
of
regulations;
Planning
Commission
staff
recommend
approval
of
a
text
amendment
to
the
zoning
ordinance
to
revise
the
distance
requirement
between
cannabis,
dispensaries
and
pre-existing
public
or
private
educational
institutions
that
are
elementary
middle
or
high
schools,
as
well
as
established
definitions
and
provisions
for
additional
cannabis
uses,
such
as
cannabis
growers
and
fusers
processing
organizations,
transporters
etc
within
the
city's
zoning
districts.
This
is
for
introduction.
K
L
Mr.
Chairman
I
would
like
to
divide
this
ordinance
into
two
parts,
one
the
distance
part
and
the
other
part.
The
zoning
part
having
to
do
with
zoning
districts
in
which
the
various
licenses
can
be.
The
users
can
be
located.
I've
been
in
conversations
with
several
attorneys
having
to
do
with
representing
various
users
and
also
reading
up
on
the
various
various
activities
of
the
users
and
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
is.
L
While
we
talk
about
the
social
justice
applicants,
very
few
people
are
going
to
be
allowed
a
location
in
Evanston
for
any
of
the
additional
licenses.
For
example,
the
craft
growers,
the
infusers
and
the
transporters
and
I
don't
know
what
a
processing
license
is.
I
can't
figure
that
one
out,
but
the
other
three
I'm
very
familiar
with
I
I,
would
like
to
hold
in
committee,
the
transport,
the
infuser
and
the
craft
grower
license
and
look
at
the
locations
and
the
distance
issues
and
the
zoning
areas
in
which
we're
limiting
those
two
to
be
allowed.
L
As
an
example,
I
have
been
told
that
there's
absolutely
no
reason
why
those
who
are
able
and
I
think
there's
going
to
be
for
tea
infuser
licenses
issued
in
like
the
summer
of
2020
for
infuser.
There's,
absolutely
no
reason
why
those
licenses
and
we'll
probably
maybe
get
one
or
two
at
the
most.
So
you
know
we're
not
gonna
get
a
flood
of
them.
L
If
we
get
that
why
those
can't
be
issued
to
to
zoning
districts
that
allow
kit
that
allow
restaurants
that
allow
bakeries,
they're
there
they're
not
going
to
be
the
product
that
they're
going
to
be
making
things
from,
is
not
the
flour
its
extract
and
there's
nothing.
It's
not
going
to
be
like
people
standing
out
behind
your
building,
smoking
weed,
it's
it.
It's
gonna
smell
more
like
brownies.
It's
not
gonna
smell
like
sex.
It's
not
like
weeds,
so
for
us
to
limit
it
for
1,500
feet
from
something
and
put
it
in.
L
You
know
over
a
Oakland
where
the
the
you
know
the
tow
company
is
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense.
So
I
would
like
us
to
hold
that
piece
of
it.
The
the
distance
thing
for
the
regular
dispensaries
I
appreciate
that
change.
That's
an
important
change,
but
the
the
location
I
think
we
need
to
take
another
look
at
that.
Does
it
make
sense?
L
And
we've
we've
also
said
in
this
ordinance
that
we
can
co-locate
uses
cannabis
uses,
but
we
can't
locate
any
of
them
unless
we
want
to
put
a
dispensary
in
an
I
to
district,
and
I
don't
think
we
necessarily
want
to
do
that
because
those
places
are
are
bigger
and
more
expensive
than
you
know.
A
current
retail
district,
so
there's
no
chance
of
co-locating
two
different
uses
for
cannabis
and
we're
not
we're
not
talking
about
10
or
20
locations
because
we're
not
going
to
get
those
kind
of
licenses.
Okay,.
L
L
A
L
N
L
D
L
K
Does
the
soul
so
I'm
with
you
100%
on
everything
that
you're
saying?
But
how
does
the
timeline
that
we're
working
with
now
with
the
current
applicants
and
approving
this
500
feet?
Will
that
pushback
I
mean
I
know
that
the
licenses
are
being
approved
at
the
state
right
with
that
pushback
any
sort
of
openings
for
the
retail
dispenser?
If
we
hold
all
of
it,
because
I'm
still
not
clear
on
how
we
implement
the
social
equity,
piece
and
I?
Have
questions
about?
I
know
that
this
is
a
different
discussion,
but
every
license.
K
N
N
K
Staff
here
that
can
speak
to
that,
because
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
activity
with
the
social
equity
candidates
and
pursuing
their
goals
for
a
dispensary
and
where
they
ad
in
the
process
have
I
know
that
they've
actually
applied
so
did
they
have?
Does
the
application
process
include
identifying
a
location
for
their
dispensary,
so.
N
N
So
if
somebody
wants
to
locate
within
in
a
location,
for
example
on
Howard
Street,
where
you
could
locate
on
the
Chicago
side,
because
you're
500
feet
from
the
school,
but
on
the
Evanston
side,
we've
said
750
feet
so
you're
precluded,
but
you
literally
could
go
across
the
street
and
locate
so
I.
Think
that's
the
issue
that
all
the
marina
is
speaking
to.
So
they
could
prove
that
the
if
we've
made
this
or
this
ordinance
change
everything
above
6-4
11
four.
N
L
K
So
that's
my
question
on
the
application.
Does
it
do
you
have
to
I
mean
it's
not
uncommon
that
when
you're
applying
for
something
you
have
to
identify
the
exact
location,
even
make
sure
that
it's
compliant
with
the
areas
that
we
have
said
you
can
have
a
dispensary.
So
was
that
part
of
the
process
that
they,
you
know
said
you
know,
1,300
Lake
Streeter
named
a
specific
address.
The.
N
City
of
Evanston
wouldn't
be
privy
to
that
information
from
the
state
wouldn't
necessarily
share.
We
might
know
it
if
an
alderman
was
was
often
an
applicant,
might
talk
to
an
alderman
and
say
this
is
the
space
we're
hunting
and
what
do
you
think,
and
that
might
happen
or
they
might
check
with
the
zoning
office
and
we've
gotten
a
number
of
those
enquiries,
but
we
get
a
number
of
those
inquiries
for
other
uses,
as
you,
as
many
of
you
know
that
we
may
not
turn
into
anything
so.
K
K
K
M
A
L
And
the
reason
I
brought
up
the
other
issue
is
because
it
was
brought
up
to
me
by
several
applicants
for
the
three
new
licenses,
which
is
the
craft
grower.
The
transporter
and
the
infuser
people
are
very
interested
in
that
and
they
they
can't
locate
in
these
I
to
districts
and
in
there,
and
the
infuser
issue
is
there's
just
no
reason
to
stick
them
in
an
I
to
district.
So
I
want
to
talk
to
our
staff
about
that,
and
then
so
anyway.
This
is
very
good.
That's
what
I
would
like
to
do
separate
the
ordinance.
Thank.
L
N
A
The
motion
is
there
a
second
second,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
aye,
okay,
any
opposed
all
right.
So
all
in
favor
of
item
p3,
as
amended
for
introduction,
I
proposed
all
right
passes.
We
on
to
item
p4
or
this
2500
20,
a
mining
title
7
chapter
8,
section,
8,
tree
preservation,
city
staff
recommends
adoption
of
ordinate
2500
20
amending
the
tree;
preservation,
ordinance,
7,
8
8
to
apply
the
trees,
25
inches
in
diameter
at
breast
height,
DBH
and
larger
20,
inches,
dvh
or
larger
for
oak
and
hickory
species
on
private
property.
A
I
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
paul
vegas
taylor,
environmental
services
coordinator,
I
have
a
short
presentation
just
to
highlight
all
of
the
changes
that
were
being
proposed
for
this
ordinance.
As
I
said
last
time,
the
existing
ordinance
already
protects
all
public
trees
unless
they're
dead,
diseased
or
dangerous
any
private
tree
on
parcels,
2,
acres
or
larger
that
are
up
for
subdivision
and
then
any
private
tree
within
a
planned
development.
I
The
new
part
of
this
ordinance
has
additional
protection
for
all
private
qualifying
trees
on
properties
that
proposed
new
construction
of
a
building
or
the
addition
of
more
than
600
square
feet
of
impermeable
surface,
and
those
qualifying
trees
are
as
follows:
those
they're
any
tree,
that's
25,
inches
or
larger
in
diameter
within
any
of
the
species
groups,
a
B
or
C
in
the
existing
ordinance
on
any
oak
or
Hickory
species.
20
inches
are
larger
in
diameter.
I
Again
in
that
existing
ordinance,
those
20
to
25
inch
thresholds
were
chosen
based
really
on
what
staff
thought
we
could
absorb
with
the
existing
staff
and
not
have
to
add
people
to
enforce
this
based
on
as
to
our
estimated
a
number
of
additional
permits.
This
is
going
to
generate
an
other
municipalities.
Do
have
similar
thresholds,
although
there
are
several
that
have
much
lower
thresholds.
I
An
inch
were
increasing
the
distance
to
protect
trees
on
adjacent
properties
from
ten
feet
to
25
feet
from
from
the
proposed
construction,
we're
increasing
the
fines
for
the
ordinance
violations
from
not
less
than
100,
and
no
more
than
1500
up
to
not
less
than
500
and
no
more
than
$10,000
and
were
reclassifying
several
of
the
species
within
the
group's
based
on
our
experience
and
with
that
I
would
be
happy
to
answer.
Questions
does.
O
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
I
I'm
concerned
about
this
being
specifically
to
new
construction,
so
I'd,
like
remodelings
I,
think
some
of
the
problems
that
have
been
created
in
the
recent
past
have
have
had
to
do
with
additions
to
existing
houses.
So
any
yeah
and
that's
so
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
the
new
construction
includes
remodeling
or
additions
to
existing
structures.
O
O
I
J
P
P
I
P
Before
and
I
I
think
someone
was
objecting
to
Norway
maples,
but
you
know
I'm,
not
a
you're.
The
expert
on
that
so
yeah
so
I
think
that
I
mean
I
think
certainly
I
would
like
it.
If
we
could
go
small,
go
to
a
lower
diameter.
I
recognize,
though
the
goal
is
to
actually
be
able
to
effectively
enforce
the
ordinance.
So
perhaps
we
can
revisit
this
sometime
in
the
next
few
years
and
see
if
at
that
point
we
should,
we
should
go
to
a
smaller
diameter,
I'd
hate
to
lose
the
trees,
absolutely
yeah.
G
In
addition
to
alderman
Fisk's
comments
about
making
sure
we're,
including
remodeling
and
things
like
that,
I'd
like
it
altered
also
just
to
mention
pervious
surfaces,
not
just
impervious,
because
if
someone
puts
in
a
patio,
that's
permeable,
but
it
still
is
going
to
eliminate
a
tree.
I
think
that's
that's
a
problem,
and
so
I
I'd
like
to
because
our
pervious
surfaces
don't
allow
nearly
as
much
absorption
of
the
stormwater
as
as
a
tree
can
take
up
so
I,
wouldn't
I
would
like
to
not
limit
it
to
dealing
with
impervious
surfaces.
O
I
That's
extremely
difficult
to
tell
it's
not
like
we
have
enough
staff
to
just
police
tree
removals.
All
throughout
town
I
mean
all
I
can
really
say.
Is
it's
it's
an
enforcement
issue
that
we
can't
really
go
after
right
off.
The
bat
I
would
hope
that
neighbors
would
would
help
out,
which
is
which
happens
in
other
municipalities.
I've
talked
to
other
foresters.
Today,
the
only
reason
I
knew
somebody
was
taking
a
tree
down
as
because
their
neighbor
called
and
complained.