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A
C
D
A
Stopping
by
okay
all
right,
so
our
first
order
of
business
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
our
last
meeting.
Can
I
have
a
motion
to
that
effect.
D
A
Okay,
okay,
then,
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
aye,.
E
A
No
okay,
the
minutes
are
approved
and
our
first
oops.
So
we
have
two
items
on
our
agenda
this
evening
and
I
believe
we
have
some
public
comment.
F
Good
evening
hold
up
camera.
F
F
I
am
here
to
share
that
the
executive
board
of
downtown
evanston
a
pro
opposes
the
approval
of
the
request
for
a
convenience
store
to
sell
newspapers,
magazines,
medicine,
food
beverages
and
tobacco
in
the
d4
transition
district
zoning
code
6-11-5-3
at
518
davis
street
johnson
evanston,
is
a
business
non-profit
that
provides
district
management
to
evanston
central
business
district.
One
of
the
goals
of
the
organization
is
to
position
downtown
evanston
at
the
highly
desirable
retail,
entertainment
and
cultural
district
that
attracts
visitors
and
supports
commerce
for
local
residents.
F
The
specific
use
does
not
align
with
the
downtown
evanston
organization's
goals
to
enhance
the
retail
offerings
in
the
downtown
district
and
for
members
of
the
economic
development
committee.
I
think
our
opposition
to
this
could
also
transition
to
support
of
perhaps
a
retail
consultant
or
retail
group
that
could
be
formed
to
help
us
find
better
offerings
for
our
vacancies.
G
Hi
hi
hi,
I'm
bonnie
wilson,
I'm
here
not
not
in
hawaii
anyway,
hi,
I'm
bonnie
wilson.
I
live
in
the
first
ward
and
I
have
some
concerns
about
ordinance,
11022,
a
convenience
store
at
518
davis
street,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
500
block
of
grove,
a
block
from
518
davis.
As
you
are
aware,
there
is
a
hotel,
a
few
restaurants
and
medical
buildings
on
that
block,
and
the
site
is
only
a
block
away
from
the
hinman
grove
residential
area
and
several
senior
facilities.
The
alley
itself
is
very
busy
already
serving
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
G
When
I
drive
down
the
alley
going
north,
there
are
often
delivery
vans
parked
in
the
alley
that
section
of
davis
street
starts
to
have
busy
traffic
rest
of
the
alley
and
cars
often
parked
by
the
fire
hydrant
in
front
of
the
store,
location
and
close
to
the
corner
of
the
alley.
Our
concern
as
neighbors
is
that
cars
will
park
in
the
alley
run
into
the
store
to
purchase
an
item
like
milk
and
cigarettes
causing
more
congestion.
G
This
will
also
pose
issues
for
pedestrians
walking
through
the
alley,
especially
late
in
the
evenings.
There
are
four
condo
buildings
adjacent
to
this
location.
The
applicant
needs
a
special
permit
to
have
a
convenience
toward
this
location,
and
we
question
if
this
makes
sense
again.
This
location
is
close
to
senior
liberty
facilities
and
the
noise
when
people
congregating
in
front
of
the
store
can
be
a
nuisance
as
late
hours.
G
G
The
neighbors
would
prefer
a
different
type
of
store
there,
but
not
at
the
very
least,
some
provisions
to
be
made
when
minimizing
traffic
in
the
alley
and
reducing
operating
hours.
There
is
a
reason
that
this
area
of
davis
street
needs
a
special
permit
because
it
is
in
a
transition
area
close
to
a
residential
area
and
two
senior
homes.
Please
vote
no
on
ordinance,
11,
0
22..
A
A
H
J
J
In
second,
I
will
move
for
purposes
of
discussion,
ordinance
11022,
granting
a
special
use
permit
for
a
convenience
store
at
518
davis
street
in
the
d4
downtown
transition
district.
H
Sure
I
am
not
going
to
support
this,
I
feel
it.
It
absolutely
does
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
and
against
our
standards
for
special
uses.
There
are
within
blocks
of
this
location.
We
have
the
date.
We
have
other
convenience
locations
with
the
davis
pantry
around
the
corner.
On
davis
we
have
the
7-eleven
also
on
davis,
we
have
a
7-eleven
on
emerson.
We
have,
you
know
open,
pantry
nearby,
then
we
have
not.
You
know
not
to
mention
the
cvs
around
the
corner
and
target.
I
we're
working
very
hard
to
right.
H
H
To,
for
you,
know,
interesting
and
enhancing
businesses,
not
another
convenience
store,
and
I
also
am
concerned
about
the
traffic
impact.
I
think
it
will
in
fact
cause
more
traffic
congestion
because,
because
of
the
nature
of
what's
being
sold
here,
I
think
there
will
be
a
lot
of
people
pulling
up
to
run
in
to
get
tobacco.
H
So
I
think
that
will
have
an
undue
negative
impact.
Also
I
mean
I
am
also
con.
That's
standard
f.
I
already
mentioned
standard
c
with
regard
to
negative
cumulative
impact,
and
I'm
also
concerned
about
d
in
terms
of
diminishing
the
overall
quality
of
living
of
the
neighborhood
that
I,
for
all
the
reasons
that
miss
wilson
mentioned
so
as
well
as
annie
coakley
and
the
then
the
ssa
concerns,
so
I
will
not
be
supporting
this.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
comments,
discussion
from
the
committee
council,
member
newsman.
D
Thank
you.
So
I'm
a
bit
confused
here.
So
I'm
hearing
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
this
project,
but
I'm
hearing
one
thing
from
members
of
community
and
from
a
number
of
my
colleagues
here
that
are
opposing
it,
but
we
have
a
zoning
board.
Who
is
tasked
with
being
I
mean
that
the
reason
we
have
something
more
is
these
folks
are
experts
and
they
have
said
to
approve
this.
They
said
that
this
meets.
D
Apparently
it
says
you
know
the
recommended
option.
So
can
someone
please
explain
what
the
why
why
our
experts
are
saying?
Yes,
this
means
the
zoning
code
and
we
have
council
members
saying
it
does
not,
and
maybe
staff
johanna.
B
Yeah
good
evening,
johanna
niden
community
development
director,
so
the
deciding
body
the
determining
body
in
in
these
special
uses
is
the
city
council,
so
staff
weighs
in
at
design
a
project
review
committee,
and
we
we
had
concerns
about
all
these
convenience
stores
in
terms
of
fenestration.
In
terms
of
what
you
can
see
in
the
windows,
we
try
to
do
our
best
to
put
conditions
in
there.
We
express
concerns.
We
have
concerns
about
the
traffic
as
well.
Somebody
runs
in
runs
out
loading
and
service.
B
All
those
things,
that's
an
alley
and
a
one-way
street
there's
not
much.
So
all
those
concerns
get
get
addressed
and
and
then
we
move
it
to
the
next
body,
which
is
the
zba
which
again
the
cba,
is
now
the
land
use
commission
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
zba,
making
the
recommendations.
If
you
look
at
the
minutes
some
of
the
concerns
they
had
some
of
the
similar
concerns,
but
ultimately
this
is
the
deciding
body
of
those
things.
B
So
I
think
it's
you're
you're,
seeing
a
little
bit
of
a
nuance
here
in
recommending
making
a
recommendation
and
adoption
of
the
ordinance.
But
it's
also
you
you
all
are
the
determining
body.
Some
of
these
are
value
community
values
that
are
only
going
to
be
ascertained
by
the
ward,
alderman
or
or
others
that
particularly
some
of
the
standards
c
d
and
f
that
council
member
kelly
just
mentioned.
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I
I
think
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
have
been
stated
by
council
member
kelly
and
council
member
newsma.
J
I
I
don't
think
that
this
is
appropriate
at
the
site,
as
the
negative
cumulative
effect
is
is
strong
here
and
that's
why
we
have
that
provision
that
standard
in
our
special
use
ordinance
so
that
we
don't
have
that
we
don't
have
spec
type
2,
restaurants
or
convenience
stores
everywhere
in
the
downtown,
and
you
know-
and
part
of
that
is
so
that
we
it's
a
combination
of
things.
It's
a
combination
of.
We
want
to
have
a
wider
diversity
of
businesses.
J
We
we
have
noticed
over
the
years
that
type
2
restaurants
frequently
produce
a
lot
more
litter
and,
and
they
do
stop
us
from
and
they
do
create
traffic
problems
because
they're
a
quick
stop.
So
I
know
this
block
very
well.
It's
about
six
blocks
from
my
house
that
alley
does
carry
a
lot
of
traffic
there.
The
mather
is,
is
there
is
nearby
north
shore
hotel?
The
marion
is
around
the
corner.
J
If
there's
any
place
in
evanston,
where
you
have
a
lot
of
seniors
walking
on
on
the
sidewalk
because
they
don't
drive,
that's
that's
this
location.
So
for
all
of
those
reasons,
I
I.
A
J
A
On
this
okay,
thank
you,
councilmember
reed,.
D
I
would
like
at
a
future
meeting
to
have
a
bit
of
a
deeper
understanding
about
how
special
use
permits
are
applied,
and
you
know
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
limit
the
number
of
convenience
stores
downtown,
then
we
should
maybe
just
limit
the
number
of
convenience
stores
downtown
and
say
that
you
know
only
within
the
d3
district
or
d,
whatever
d1d2
district,
or
I
guess
in
this
case
d4
district
that
there
should
be.
You
know
x,
number
of
convenience
stores
x
number
of
what
ever.
D
A
And
it
may
be
thinking
into
the
future.
Now
zoning
zoning
board
of
appeals
and
our
plan
commission
have
now
been
combined
into
a
land
use
commission,
so
the
discussion
might
have
been
different
when
they
considered
this
application.
So
you
know
that
that's
another
thing
to
think
about
in
the
future
council
member
kelly.
A
We
we
want
to
keep,
we
can
just
okay,
you
know
if,
if
people
because
yeah,
if,
if
that
seem,
if
everybody's
ready
to
take
a
vote,
then
I
guess
we
do
a
roll
call.
Please,
council.
E
D
A
Okay,
two
to
two
to
whatever
two
to
five:
okay.
So
the
item
fails
and
will
not
be
sent
on
to
the
full
council
this
evening.
So
now
we
have
an
item
for
discussion,
a
discussion
of
property
standards.
B
B
So
she
has
prepared
a
presentation
that
summarizes
the
property
maintenance
work
that
the
division
does.
Council
member
burns
made
this
as
a
referral
last
year
and
we've
gone
back
and
forth
with
him
about
some
of
the
questions
and
concerns
that
raised
this
issue.
So
we've
talked
about
being
a
brief
presentation
given
the
the
hour.
So
if
you
want
to
let
her
do
the
presentation,
then
we
can
come
back
for
questions
if
that's
more
efficient
or
if
you
want
to
ask
questions
throughout,
but
we
can
do
this.
K
Member
members,
my
name
is
angel,
and
I
we
put
this
presentation
together
to
kind
of
go
over
property
maintenance
procedures,
angel.
K
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
point,
because
if
we
do
we'll
be
long
into
the
night
but-
and
you
guys
can
all
read
that
so
property
maintenance
typically
starts
out
with
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
things.
We
get
a
complaint
and
it
comes
through
3-1-1
or
a
phone
call
or
an
email
from
a
council
member
such
as
yourself,
and
then
we
send
an
inspector
out
or
we're
doing
routine
inspections,
whether
those
routine
inspections
be
rental
inspections
or
whether
they
be
area
inspections.
K
Our
inspectors
are
out
in
the
field
responding
to
complaints
or
checking
out
the
properties
themselves.
So
we
currently
have
myself
as
the
property
maintenance
supervisor,
and
we
have
a
customer
service
representative.
We
have
three
full-time
property
maintenance
inspectors
and
we
currently
have
two
vacancies.
K
Each
of
our
inspectors
is
provided
an
area
of
town
to
inspect.
We
are
currently
have
the
city
divided
into
four
quadrants
and
we
have
with
the
intent
once
we
have
full
staff
with
our
inspectors
to
have
four
area
inspectors
and
one
floater
to
kind
of
handle
overflow
with
garbage
or
weeds
or
snow.
Some
of
those
hot
topic
issues.
K
So
the
the
zones
are
divided
here
on
the
map.
We
have
two
on
the
north
side
and
two
on
the
south
side.
Any
of
the
complaints
that
come
in
are
given
to
the
area
inspector
unless
they're,
sick
or
they're
on
vacation,
and
then
we
rotate
through
the
staff.
That's
in
the
office
that
day,
we
follow
the
2012
international
property
maintenance
code.
With
our
amendments
by
the
city,
we
are
in
the
process
of
updating
those
codes.
This
summer,
so
they'll
see
you'll
likely
see
some
changes
coming
soon.
K
Our
inspectors
also
help
to
enforce
the
zoning
code.
Some
of
the
public
works
codes
like
sidewalks
and
snows
into
public
ways.
We
also
work
with
the
building
department
to
address
work
without
permit
issues
and
make
sure
that
owners
get
permits
when
they're
doing
work
without
something
without
them.
K
So
here's
just
kind
of
a
flowchart
of
our
inspection
process
and
our
complaint
process.
We
have
it's
important
to
note
that
we
have
two
notices
that
we
typically
give
out
to
people
we
would
give
out.
The
first
notice
would
be
a
notice
of
violation,
and
then
we
give
them
a
re-inspection
to
come
back
and
see
if
it's
in
compliance,
if
it's
not
in
compliance
depending
on
the
violation.
Sometimes
we
need
to
address
it
more
quickly,
so
we
might
write
an
immediate
ticket
after
that,
first
notice
or
more
commonly.
K
K
So
here's
I
just
kind
of
walk
through
how
our
cases
are
are
managed.
So
we
take
the
complaint
through
three
one
one
and
we
let
the
resident
or
the
complainant
know
that
we've
opened
an
internal
case
and
we
follow
that
process
through
our
internal
place
case
we
close
the
through
and
one
once
we've
addressed
it
either
by
doing
the
initial
inspection
or
reaching
out
to
the
complainant,
and
then
we
close
the
311
and
everything
else
happens
in
our
internal
database.
Communication
with
the
owner
notices
are
issued
through
there
photos
are
saved
in
there.
K
If
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
have
to
write
a
ticket,
we
would
issue
a
notice
for
administrative
adjudication
and
once
we
issue
the
ticket
there,
it's
14
days
from
the
day
of
the
issuance
of
ticket
to
the
hearing
at
a
minimum
14
days.
Sometimes
we
will
continue
it
a
little
bit
longer
than
that
for
the
first
time
up
in
court,
because
maybe
an
inspector
knows
they're
going
to
be
on
vacation,
or
maybe
we
already
have
a
very
heavy
call
that
week.
K
So
we
might
push
it
out
a
little
bit,
but
it's
a
minimum
of
14
days
notice
and
those
are
mailed.
We
do
not
issue
those
in
person
unless
there
is
something
that
has
to
be
like
an
emergency
hearing
like
maybe
there's
a
building
with
no
heat
or
there's
a
building
with
no
water,
and
then
we
would
issue
the
notice
personally
otherwise
they're
mailed
and
they
do
not
have
to
be
certified.
They
are
mailed
usps.
K
K
We
have
many
landlords
who
get
funding
from
different
agencies,
and
that
requires
additional
inspections,
so
I'm
sure
sometimes
you've
heard
that
we
inspect
the
property
more
often
than
three
to
five
years.
It's
because
of
the
funding
issues
or
quite
frankly,
maybe
there
was
a
complaint
made
and
we've
been
out
to
take
a
look
at
the
complaint.
K
Property
standards
also
keeps
track
of
the
vacant
registration
properties,
vacant
property
registration.
It's
important
to
note
that
there's
a
difference
between
a
vacant
building
and
an
unoccupied
building,
just
because
somebody
is
not
living
in
the
building
doesn't
mean
it's
a
vacant
building
and
required
to
be
registered.
Vacant
buildings
are
required.
Buildings
are
required
to
be
registered
when
there's
violations
that
go
uncorrected
for
six
months
or
more
or
when
it's
unoccupied
for
more
than
two
years.
If
a
property
is
listed
for
sale
or
currently
has
permits,
it's
not
required
to
be
registered
as
a
vacant
building.
K
K
We
monitor
these
properties
and
make
sure
that
the
banks
are
maintaining
them.
If
necessary,
we
will
bring
a
bank
to
court,
we've
done
it,
they
don't
like
it,
but
we
bring
them
here.
They're
required
to
maintain
the
building.
When
they
realize
it's
vacant
they
cannot
touch
any
property
or
go
on
to
the
the
property
when
they're,
they
think
it's
occupied.
K
K
We
currently
have,
on
our
website
a
link
to
an
open
property
search
tool.
This
is
a
benefit
to
any
one
of
our
residents
and
you
guys
as
well.
You
can
type
in
any
address
in
the
city
and
it'll.
Tell
you
whether
we
have
an
open
property
standards
case.
We
cannot
disclose
the
direct
violations
to
you,
because
it's
typically
something
that
we're
working
on,
but
you
will
at
least
know
whether
we
have
a
case.
K
So
these
are
our
most
common
property,
maintenance,
complaints,
a
rubbish
and
garbage
exterior
conditions,
garages,
fences,
roofs,
weeds
and
grass
and
of
course,
unshoveled
sidewalks.
We
also
get
rental
dwelling
inspection
requests,
but
that
covers
all
of
the
interior
stuff.
This
is
the
the
exterior
takes
a
lot
of
our
our
time.
K
So
we
refer
tenants
who
have
issues
with
their
landlords
to
metropolitan
tenant
organization.
We
contract
with
them
to
handle
our
landlord
tenant
issue,
because
we
don't
ever
want
the
inspector
to
get
in
the
middle
of
it.
He
said
she
said
with
a
resident
in
the
field.
We
don't
get
into
somebody's
lease
terms.
We
don't
get
into
who's
responsible
for
cutting
the
grass
that
the
landlord
says
that
the
tenant
is
supposed
to
do
it.
We
bring
the
landlord
into
court.
If
we
have
to
write
the
ticket
metropolitan
tenant
is
who
we
refer.
K
We're
trying
we're
working
with
staff
to
make
sure
that
they
provide
better
information
on
their
311
before
it's
closed,
so
that
a
resident
isn't
left
in
the
dark.
We're
working
to
improve
our
databases
so
that
we
can
provide
better
information
in
terms
of
reporting
or
questions
and
make
sure
that
we
can
work
to
improve
our
inspection
cycles.
K
Here
are
some
things
that
I
think
we
can
do
to
improve.
Some
of
this
has
come
up
from
questions
and
comments
that
we've
received
through
some
of
the
word
meetings,
but
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
work
on.
We
do
have
rent
evanston,
which
is
a
landlord
training
process,
but
we
dropped
that
off.
Prior
to
covid
we
weren't
getting
a
lot
of
response
for
people
to
come
in.
K
We
can
look
at
picking
that
back
up
again
I'd
love
to
do
a
tiered
inspection
cycle
for
properties
who
are
in
compliance
and
don't
cause
the
problems
that
the
uncorrected
violations
cause
working
with
northwestern,
to
develop
better
student
training
for
for
students
who
are
residing
off
campus
and
then
we
typically
don't
attend
board
meetings.
But
we
can,
I
mean,
we've
been
asked
to
a
couple
of
times,
but
we
can
to
try
and
answer
some
of
these
questions.
K
And
how
can
you
help
take
a
picture
and
submit
a
3-1-1
make
sure
you
give
us
the
address
of
the
complaint
and
your
contact
information?
Sometimes
we'll
get
a
complaint
about
garbage
and
we
can't
see
it
because
it's
in
the
backyard,
if
we
don't
have
resident
contact
information,
we
won't
be
able
to
see
it.
But
if
I
can
come
into
your
backyard,
maybe
I
can
see
it
from
there.
So
better
contact
information
would
help
us.
A
So
committee,
any
question:
council,
member
reid.
D
Thank
you
angel.
You
have
been
a
huge
help
to
me
and
residents
whenever
we've
reached
out.
I
one
thing
that
I
I
think
would
be
really
helpful.
Is
it's
really
just
a
technology
solution
which
is
providing
a
and
we
have
a
form
of
it
now
been
open
through
on
one?
That
is,
you
know
you
can
more
readily
see
exactly
what's
going
on
and
again,
I
know
we
have
a
version
of
that
now,
but
I
think
you
know
there
might
be
some
other
platforms
out
there.
D
There
are
certain
violations
that
you
know
a
resident
may
be
able
to
solve
themselves
and
so
there,
if
there's,
if
we
can
find-
and
I
can
maybe
offer
a
suggestion-
a
program
out
there-
that
allows
some
smaller
solutions
to
be,
for
example,
now,
if
I
were
to
make
a
3-1-1
complaint
right
now,
would
that
go
live
on
a
website
now.
K
It
goes
into
the
3-1-1
system
and
then
when
staff
is
in
the
office
tomorrow
morning,
they
would
open
up
a
case
from
the
internal
database
and
then
it
would
get
sent
to
the
area
inspector
to
investigate.
But.
K
D
Okay
and
my
reason
being
you
know,
let's
there's
some
stories
again,
there's
a
great
book
by
kevin
newsom,
citizensville
there's.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
a
story
in
there
where
a
possum
or
something
was
in
a
in
a
in
a
garbage
can-
or
you
know
some
small
issue
and
it
went
live
on
their
open
through
on
one
and
instead
of
a
city
inspector
having
to
come
out
and
pay.
You
know
whatever
our
costs
for
doing
that.
D
You
know
there
are
all
kinds
of
smaller
issues
that
could
just
be
taken
care
of
by
neighbors,
and
I
think
if
we
made
that
our
three-on-one
system
open,
we
could
allow
for
some
of
the
pressure
to
be
taken
off
of
of
city
staff
and
also
just
allow
for
residents
to
be
more
engaged
with
the
three-on-one
process.
Overall,
a
director,
I'm
sorry
new
title,
luke
stow
acting.
D
L
We
do,
I
think
it's
every
30
minutes
or
every
60
minutes
whatever
is
in
the
hopper
for
301,
does
publish
to
open
evanston.org,
so
it
is
available
on
our
open
data
platform.
Okay,
if
sorry,
if
it's
marked
public,
sometimes
we
do
have
requests
that
are
marked
private
for
obvious
reasons.
Those
would
not
be
included.
E
D
Maybe
if
we
can
promote
that
kind
of
open,
evanston
dated
three
on
one
database,
more
so
folks
know,
I
don't
think
I've
I
mean
I,
as
a
council
member,
get
the
report
from
your
staff
every
week
every
friday
for
my
ward,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
if
I've
seen
that
particular
database.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Lou.
K
I
think
the
other
thing
about
that
will
help
is
one
of
the
ordinances
that
we're
amending
is
to
put
the
contact
information
for
multi-family
properties
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
so
that
if
a
neighbor
sees
something
they
can
call
up
the
property
manager
and
say
hey,
I
saw
your
fence
fell
in
the
wind
or
hey:
did
you
know
a
tenant
moved
out
and
you
have
a
bunch
of
garbage
versus
them,
calling
us
right
away
and
putting
it
in
three
on
one
and
having
to
send
an
inspector.
So
maybe
that
will
help
as
well.
D
In
this,
posting
would
only
be
required
for
multi-tenant
buildings,
multi-tenant.
A
So,
committee
members,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
members
of
the
public
who
wanted
to
speak
to
this.
Can
we
hear
from
them.
C
M
Yeah
hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
yes,
hi
happy
valentine's
to
everyone
happy
birthday,
so
I
always
have
a
problem
with
a
lack
of
communication
with
the
landlord.
M
As
ms
schner
said,
rent
evanston
hasn't
met
for
two
years
and
I've
always
attended
the
meeting.
Maybe
they
need
better
outreach
with
the
landlord,
but
something
needs
to
happen
because
these
things
cannot
happen
without
the
landlord.
M
M
M
When
I
have
a
section
8
tenant
coming,
they
have
ipads
and
they
give
codes
to
the
landlords
to
view
the
violations.
If
there
are
any
violations,
if
they're
doing
an
initial
inspection,
I
can
see
if
it
passes
or
fails
right
away
and
then
I
can
go
and
see
what
any
violation.
So
I
can
correct
them
frequently.
What
happens
is
when
we
have
a
inspection
at
the
building
with
the
city
inspector,
they
may
write
down
a
violation,
and
when
I
get
the
list
of
violations
in
the
mail,
it
may
be
10
more
violations
added
to
it.
M
M
M
M
Did
you
discuss
this
with
your
landlord
and
did
you
put
something
in
writing?
So
the
landlord
knows
that
this
is
a
violation
or
something
that
needs
repair
in
their
apartment.
Frequently,
I'm
unaware
of
anything
that
happens,
and
they
call
the
city
and
just
tell
them
about
it,
and
not
me
also
tenants
should
get
violations
too
frequently.
I
have,
as
you
know,
rent
to
affordable
housing.
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
N
Yes,
good
evening,
mrs
vervail
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
want
to
confirm
the
concerns
of
tina
payton
because
they
are
very,
very
important
to
us
as
landlords
who
rent
to
people
who
are
difficult
to
place,
but
my
concerns
I
want
to
add,
also
an
implement.
There
is
a
double
standard
in
this
community,
certain
landlords
and
certain
violations
that
we
have
seen
and
taken
pictures
of
within
a
block
of
our
house.
The
inspectors
will
go
right
by
and
it
seems
that
they
keep
coming
to
other
places
with
these
violations.
N
Secondly,
there's
a
serious
problem
with
notification.
The
landlord
since
he's
responsible
for
the
violation
should
be
notified
before
any
violation
is
given
or
before
he
comes
upon
the
property.
Without
the
landlord's
permission,
this
double
standard
has
to
stop
us
nowhere
in
the
world.
I
could
go
into
somebody's
apartment,
climb
up
on
a
ladder,
dismantle
all
the
smoke
alarms
and
then
the
tenant
calls
and
says
the
smoking
alarms
are
not
working.
N
They
were
working
when
you
moved
in
and
I
go
and
see
all
the
batteries
have
been
removed
and
I
had
not
even
had
access
to
there.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
sick
and
tired
of
this
double
standard,
where
you
allow
certain
absentee
landlords
to
have
very
obvious
violations
and
people
who
are
trying
to
provide
housing
to
prevent
the
expediting
of
gentrification
in
our
community.
You
seem
to
impose
a
more
aggressive
enforcement
of
the
law,
which
is
unfortunate,
that
I
have
to
live
at
a
time
when
these
kinds
of
things
are
happening
to
landlords.
N
Like
me,
I
want
to
commend
my
aldermen
for
getting
this
report
together.
It's
an
excellent
report,
but
we
have
to
have
some
action
on
one:
the
double
standards,
two,
the
aggressiveness
of
certain
inspectors
and
three
notification.
N
There
is
no
reason
in
the
world
that
a
landlord
should
have
a
lien
on
his
property
without
notification
from
the
people
who
issue
these
kinds
of
violations,
I
find
it
basically
illegal.
I
find
it
prejudicial.
I
find
this
a
gross
misguidance
of
justice
and
equity.
Thank
you
bobby
for
getting
this
report
together
and
thank
you
for
the
comments
and
I
hope
this
committee
can
address
some
of
our
concerns
and
bring
us
some
kind
of
resolution.
A
Thank
you
and
now
council
member
burns.
It's
your
turn.
C
C
So
no,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
angel.
I
think
director,
knight
and
and
the
community
at
large,
for
really
kind
of
rallying
around
taking
a
look
at
the
property
standards,
operation
and
process.
I
would
encourage
if,
if
my
colleagues
have
not
yet
to
look
at
the
full
packet,
you
know
in
that
there
were.
I
created
a
google
doc
and
shared
it
with
with
carlos
and
tina
and
others,
and
they
really
contributed
to
the
questions
that
were
responded
to
question
by
question
by
angel.
C
So
I
really
appreciate
her
diligence
in
getting
us
these
responses
and
there's
some
some
really
good
stuff
in
here
about
even
just
the
training
the
amount
of
training
that
our
property
inspectors
receive
down
to
the
equipment
they're
issued.
So
there's
some
really
good
detailed
information
in
this.
C
So
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
to
read
it
and-
and
I
just
quickly
wanted
to
to
point
out
a
few
things
that
that
you
know
that
some
some
next
steps
and
some
things
that
I'm
that
I
know
the
angel
and
her
team
are
working
on,
but
one
I
think
one
of
the
main
issues
has
been
in
the
system.
C
It
says
complete
when
you
make
a
request,
a
complaint
and
whatever
the
thing
is
you
made
a
complaint
about,
isn't
resolved
yet,
but
it
says
complete
and
I
think
from
my
conversations
with
angel.
The
reason
that
happens
is
because
the
the
property
standards
department
is
kind
of
tracking
it
in
an
internal
database.
C
C
I
believe,
and
we've
have
some
responses
where
we
might
be
updating
our
crm
and
hopefully,
what
that
achieves
is
we
can
kind
of
bring
all
of
that
system
into
one
system
so
that
we
don't
have
that
disconnect
because
what's
happening
is,
is
angel
needs
to
and
her
team
need
to
cut
off
the
complaint
in
order
to
start
it
back
up
in
this
in
this
other
database
that
they
use,
and
so
in
the
system
that
the
resident
is
is,
is
submitting
the
complaint
and
in
their
system
it
says
complete,
because
they
need
to
kind
of
shut
that
side
down,
and
then
they
pick
it
up
and
follow
it
internally
in
this
other
database,
and
so,
if
there's
a
way
to
get
that
all
in
one
one
database,
I
think
that
would
help
for
that
reason,
but
also
it
would.
C
It
would
help
in
some
of
the
things
that
that
carlos
and
tina
have
mentioned
where
and
also
angel
has
committed
to
to
just
working
with
the
inspectors
to
provide
more
detailed
information.
But
I've
said
this
before
one
good
thing
about
how
flair
requests
are
handled
in
the
city.
Is
that
all
the
communication
there's
a
central
place
where
all
communication
is
is
and
a
lot
of
the
questions?
C
A
lot
of
the
things
that
tina
and
carlos
brought
up
really
should
should
all
be
in
one
central
database
right
what
they
feel
about
an
inspection
and
how
it
went
should
be
there.
What
the
what
the
inspector
observed
from
the
city
right,
all
that
should
be
held
in
one
central
location,
so
that
we
don't
have
this
much
dispute
around
matters
of
that
should
be
just
matters
of
fact,
because
it's
it's
recorded
accurately
in
this
in
this
database,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
achieve
that
with
this
new
crm.
C
I
did
just
quickly
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
two
changes,
the
one
the
the
tarp,
often
in
one
part
of
the
ward.
There
are
community
members,
are
using
tarps
to
kind
of
hide,
partying,
that's
going
on
in
their
backyards,
and
then
it's
also
people
using
it
for
construction
purposes.
So
I
appreciate
them
adding
that
into
one
of
the
changes.
C
A
resident
also
had
an
idea
of
making
sure
that
the
property
manager's
information
is
is
listed
on
the
outside
of
the
property,
which,
I
think
is
a
is,
is
a
big
change
and
that's
something
that
angel
and
her
team
were
also
considering.
But
I
just
want
to
shout
out.
You
know
one
of
my
residents
for
also
adding
that
to
the
list
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
really
positive
change
and
something
I
think
we
still
need
to
consider
is
is
how
we
handle
vacant
properties.
C
So
one
what
constitutes
a
vacant
property
which
is
it
was
what
angel
described
today.
I
think
we
need
to
to
take
another
look
at
that,
and
my
concern
is:
there's
a
lot
of
vacant
properties
or
there's
some
enough
vacant
properties
that
remain
vacant
for
too
long
and
and
from
speaking
with
angel.
I
understand
if
it's
vacant,
because
it's
caught
up
in
foreclosure
or
some
other
legal
issue,
but
there's
some
properties
that
aren't,
and
I
think
we
should
have
a
much
more
stricter
expectation
on
those
properties
and
say
look
what
are
you
doing
with
it?
C
And
so
hopefully
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
at
some
future
meetings
and
then,
lastly,
I
you
know
I
would
love
for
angel
to
speak
with
this.
I
I
think
what
people
also
don't
realize
is
that
this
department
is
handling
a
lot
of
complaints
and
they're
doing
it
without,
I
think
enough.
Customer
service
support,
as
well
as
from
conversations
I've
had
with
angel.
C
At
one
point,
there
was
a
inspector
that
only
did
vacant
property
complaints,
and
so
I
think
I
would
love
to
hear
from
angel
now,
but
also
to
work
on
like
what
can
we
do
to
reorganize
our
property
standards
department
and
get
it
the
support
it
needs
because,
from
my
conversations
with
angel,
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time,
kind
of
tracking
down
problem
landlords
and
dealing
with
paperwork
and
because
of
it,
her
team
they're
not
able
to
be
as
proactive
as
they
would
like
to
be
so
angel.
C
B
Thank
you
I'll
just
jump
in
real
quick.
I
think
some
of
this
was
our
items
that
we've
brought
up
during
the
2022
budget
cycle
and
that
we
anticipate
we
would
probably
bring
up
for
the
2023
councilman
burns
are
right.
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
divisions
and
departments
all
over
the
city
that
need
more
staff
and
more
attention,
and
certainly
the
council
has
been
super
helpful
in
adding
a
property
maintenance
inspector
on
this
past
budget
cycle.
B
So
so
I
would
just
add
that
these
are
absolutely
things
that
we
are
considering
and
how
we
would
be
able
to
add
revenue
to
support
those
positions.
So
I
think
angel
has.
Has
we
offered
several
ideas
during
the
2022
budget
cycle
and
we'd
be
back
in
2023
to
do
it,
but,
given
the
hour
we'd
be
happy
to
put
that
together
in
a
memo,
for
I
know,
I'm
assuming
your
budget
cycle
is
going
to
start,
probably
the
earliest.
It's
ever
since
I've
been
here
so
we
would
be.
D
On
yeah,
just
really
quick,
I'm
curious
how
many
area
inspectors
do
we
currently
have
do.
We
have
four.
K
D
We
do
we
do
people
change
zones
every
so
often.
K
We
do
we,
we
don't
do
it
often,
because
the
the
inspector
will
sometimes
get
a
really
nice
rapport
with
a
landlord
and
we
can
get
them
moving
and
we
can
get
them
motivated
to
get
these
things
taken
care
of.
K
But
at
the
same
time
I
realize
that
it's
important
to
have
somebody
look
at
something
new,
so
we
recently
went
from
three
to
four
areas,
so
all
of
the
inspectors
were
kind
of
moved
around
a
little
bit
and
then,
of
course,
they
also
do
pop
in
and
out
of
different
areas
depending
on
sick
days
and
vacation
time.
So
they
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
new
eye.
Sometimes,
okay,.
D
D
K
I
you
know
what
I
could
ask
for
the
moon,
but
it
would
really
depend
on
what
programs
you
guys
are
looking
at
having
us
enforce,
and
then
I
could
make
a
better
decision
depending
on
what
we're
ready
to
move
forward
with.
Are
we
ready
to
move
forward
with
rental
licensing?
Are
we
ready
to
move
forward
with
a
different
program
that
would
all
depend
on
the
number
of
inspectors?
Would
all
depend
on
that.
C
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
wanted
angela
to
talk
a
bit
about.
You
know
landlord
licensing,
because
you
know,
ultimately
she
is
the
one
that
is
a
you
know,
supervisor
for
this
department.
She
has
a
lot
of
experience
and,
from
our
conversation,
she's
saying
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
can
do
as
a
body
is
adult
landlord
licensing.
So
I
really
would
like
to
hear
from
her
about
that,
because
I
think
what
we
talked
about
is
in
combination
with
landlord
licensing.
It
wouldn't
require.
C
You
know
too
much
additional
staff,
but
it's
again
I
think
adding
a
you
know:
customer
service
person,
because
there's
a
lot
of
paperwork
involved
with
this
work
and
and
then
considering
having
a
dedicated
kind
of
vacant
vacant
property
inspector
on
the
team
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
following
up
on
on
all
the
you
know
when
your
property
is
vacant
around
a
certain
amount
of
time,
you're
supposed
to
submit
a
vacant
properties,
a
rehabilitation
plan-
and
you
know
again
a
lot
of
that
I
think
is-
is
hard
to
keep
up
on,
not
just
to
get
people
to
do
the
plan,
but
then
to
check
up
on
them.
C
C
A
Right,
yeah
and
and
the
discussion
about
rental
licensing
is
happening
in
our
planning
and
development
subcommittee,
so
we'll
be
have
having
a
lot
of
conversations
with
angel
in
that
committee.
That
sitting.
D
I'm
not
sorry,
you
should
say
sorry,
so
then.
Lastly,
you
know
I
I'm
wondering
if
to
bolster
you
know
this
these
activities,
one,
I
mean
the
question
of
what.
What
do
we
want
to
enforce?
I
mean
anything
that
we
made
a
law
is,
is
something
so
I
mean
that's
kind
of
the
mandate,
and
so
I
you
know,
but
I
do
get
how
it
can
be
difficult
to
ascertain
what
levels
are
needed
and
then,
lastly,
you
know
I
wonder
this
is
maybe
big
picture
longer
term,
but
we
have.
D
I
wonder
if
there's
a
consolidation
of
departments
and
cross
training
that
we
can
do
to
I
mean
we
have
parking
inspectors
who
are
to
be
familiar
with
the
evanston
code
and
they
drive
around
the
city
all
day
and
they're
running
license
plates.
Why
can't
those
folks
know
what
the
property
standards
codes
are
and-
and
you
know
and
work
with
the
property
standards
team
to
enforce
our
property
standards.
K
We
do
we
do
sometimes
okay,
it's
not
frequent,
because
they're
busy
doing
their
enforcement
activities,
but
if
they
see
something
or
if
they
need
our
assistance
like,
for
example,
sometimes
there
will
be
a
vehicle
that
isn't
in
the
public
way,
but
they
need
our
help
because
it's
on
private
property,
so
we
do
communicate
with
other
departments.
We
work
with
public
works
about
the
snow
being
pushed
into
public
ways,
so
we
have
that
it's
just
not
probably
as
big
as
you're
thinking,
yeah.
B
And
we've
done
cross-training,
we
did
a
cross-training,
I
think
last
fall
with
almost
just
about
every
department
in
the
city
and
angel
gave
effectively
this
presentation,
and
I
think
there
were
some
follow-up
and
some
synergies
that
were
created
as
a
result
of
that
meeting.
So
that
is
definitely
happening.
I
mean
angel
is
liaisons
with
just
about
every
department.
At
this
point.
D
Yeah,
I
think
that
cross
department
connection
definitely
needs
to
happen.
I
think
about
even
forestry
who
might
be
out
and
about-
and
you.
E
D
Certainly,
they
wouldn't
have
anywhere
near
the
role
of
you
know
parking
or
your
team,
but
I
I
do
wonder
if
there
could
be
some
synergies
made
if
there
were
a
you
know,
particularly
if,
as
we're
having
the
discussion,
I
just
saw
mary
best
a
second
ago
with
the
reimagining
police
and
the
reorganization
of
the
of
our
structure.
D
If
there
is
a
you
know,
similar
to
our
police
force,
a
civilian
force
that
was
imposed,
that
that
their
job
was
to
ensure
that
our
civilian
non-criminal
code
was
enforced,
whether
it's
a
parking
issue
or
property
standards
violation,
I
think
we
could
find
some
some
synergies
and
some
efficiencies
and
and
maybe
be
even
more
effective
at
doing
the
job.
If
there
was
a
kind
of
unified
department
that
just
focused
on
non-criminal
code
enforcement,
okay,.
A
So,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
council
member
newsman.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
had
one
quick
question
with
regards
to
the
the
311
system
being
a
different
computer
system
than
you
use
internally.
Would
it
be
possible
you
know,
rather
than
rather
than
having
the
311
complaint
coded
as
closed
when,
in
fact
it's
still
open
on
your
side
of
of
the
system?
K
K
Now
that's
our
internal
case
number
and
it
will
be
followed
up
with
the
inspector
and
then
once
the
inspector
either
makes
contact
or
does
the
inspection
they
put
a
node
in
and
they
close
the
through
and
one
they
get
the
route
they
get
the
note
from
three
and
one
that
says
your
complaint
is
closed,
but
if
they
haven't
read
all
of
the
comments,
they
may
not
know
that
there's
a
new
case
assigned,
they
can
always
call
property
standards
and
say
hey
what
about
case.
21
1547
right.
K
It
possible
we
would
have
to
discuss
that
with
311
and
see
if
that's
something
that
can
be
done.
E
I
A
A
L
A
Okay,
then
we're
adjourned.