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A
A
A
B
Chairman
suffered
and
Ben
Shapiro
1127
Dewey
having
you
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
ordinates
171
0
19,
the
fort
the
additional
dwelling
unit
I've
been
following
this.
As
it
goes
through
committee,
it
seems
to
have
received
very
positive
support
from
everybody.
Who's
looked
at
this
I
do
have
a
concern
about
the
height
requirement
and,
if
you're
going
to
build
an
apartment
on
the
top
of
a
garage
space
and
a
fourteen
and
a
half
feet
for
a
flat
roof
is
simply
not
high
enough
and
20-foot
for
a
peak
is
also
not
high
enough.
B
But
I
do
think
this
ordinance
says
overall,
it's
a
win-win
for
the
city
and
for
homeowners.
There
are
about
2,000
properties
in
Evanston
that
could
benefit
from
this,
and
it
would
mean
that
small
home
owned
small
property
owners
such
as
myself,
could
benefit
from
all
the
Tod
work.
That's
been
done
over
the
years,
but
is
made
Evanston
such
a
desirable
place
to
live,
and
it
would
mean
that
I
could
improve
the
income
from
my
property
and
definitely
extend
my
stay
here
in
Evanston.
B
A
C
Good
evening
Thank
You
chair
suffered
in
and
members
of
the
committee
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
dick
Koh,
24:13
Hartree
and
also
president
of
the
evidence
and
development
cooperative
I'm
delighted
that
the
plan
commission
recommended
the
amendments
to
the
coach-house
ordinance
that's
coming
before
you
today,
namely
to
expand
the
coach-house
opportunity
beyond
single-family
homes,
as
mr.
Shapiro
mentioned.
However,
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
ad
I'm,
mostly
concerned
about
the
add,
a
height
restriction
that
the
Commission
added
by
stating
that
the
coach
houses
cannot
be
taller
than
the
principal
house.
C
I
believe
this
zoning
change
is
essentially
telling
the
majority
of
homeowners
of
single-family
homes
that
this
housing
option
is
not
available
to
them
and
a
reminder
that
the
current
the
standard
height
limit
for
accessory
structures,
including
coach
houses
and
AG
use
outside
with
the
historic
district,
is
currently
20
feet.
So
we're
only
discussing
a
modest
two-story
structure
in
any
of
the
situation's.
So
I
took
this
idea
and
I
looked
at
Cook
County
Assessors
publicly
available
data
map.
C
We
mapped
out
where
the
single-story
homes
are
in
Evanston
and
they
are
predominantly
on
the
west
and
southwest
communities
in
Evanston.
So
I
believe
this
amendment
to
the
coach-house
ordinance
would
be
an
exclusionary
policy
that
would
not
expand,
affordable
housing
options,
so
I
would
hope
you
would
consider
striking
this
from
the
list
of
amendments.
Thank
you
thank.
D
Hi
I'm
Kelsey,
Davis
and
I'm
I
was
caught
I'm
here
for
the
granting
special
use
permit
for
st.
Athanasius
Church
to
turn
an
r1
into
a
parking
lot.
My
garage
backs
up
onto
the
proposed
parking
lot
and
we
share
an
alley.
The
alley
is
a
mess
to
say
the
least.
There
are
big
cars
that
they
use
to
beeps
for
pickup
and
drop-offs,
using
our
alley.
D
It
also
doesn't
solve
their
problem,
which
is
that
they
want
to
move
the
parking
of
teachers
and
staff
into
this
parking
lot
to
free
up
play
space
for
the
kids,
but
they
need
25
spaces
and
they've
designed
23
they've
also
stated
in
the
dopper
meeting
that
they
still
need
spaces
for
parents
and
teacher
for
parents
to
come
and
go
during
the
day.
So
they'd
still
have
cars
and
a
lot
where
they
want
the
kids
to
play.
So
I
think
that
you
guys
should
go
against
it.
Thank.
A
E
I
am
also
speaking
on
ordinance,
one
six,
six
zero
one,
nine
granting
special
use
in
addition
to
what
Kelsey
already
spoke
about
the
parking
issues
we
live
on,
a
small
residential
street
and
the
st.
Athanasius
property
has
grown
in
that
they've
taken
down
over
the
years
two
homes.
There
is
now
one
home
left
in
the
center.
It
is
changing
the
fabric
of
our
neighborhood
significantly
and
by
putting
a
parking
lot
in
there.
E
It
just
makes
it
look
less
and
less
like
the
wonderful
neighborhood
that
we
bought
into
so
I
am
strongly
opposed
to
moving
forward
with
that,
and
we
have
concerns
about
the
long-term
plan
of
what
is
going
to
happen
with
that
property
as
they
just
purchased
the
home.
That's
in
between
the
two.
Well,
they
didn't
purchase
it.
A
group
purchased
it
on
possibly
on
their
behalf
and
we're
worried
about
what
is
going
to
happen
and
if
it's
going
to
all
be
raised
and
have
no
lovely
little
homes,
which
is
what
our
neighborhoods
made
up
of.
E
So
that's
something
that
I
would
like
the
group
to
be
aware
of
that.
It's
a
neighborhood
and
we'd
like
it
to
remain
looking
like
that,
whether
it's
through
fencing,
so
that
it
looks
as
if
there's
a
great
big
side
yard
and
you
don't
see
the
parking
as
you're
driving
down
east
wood
or
something
else
that
would
ensure
the
nature
of
the
beautiful
neighborhood
we
live
in.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
Susan
Willa
Bailey,
I'm
speaking
to
the
same
issue,
I've
lived
at
twenty-four
twenty-four
would
for
nineteen
years
now
when
we
moved
there
as
Betsy
said:
small
houses,
nice
warm,
neighborhood,
quiet
street,
it's
a
lot
less
quiet
now,
as
is
most
of
Evanston.
Part
of
the
block
is
one
way.
Half
of
the
block
is
not
one
way
because
of
an
apartment.
Building
at
Central
and
East
wood.
It's
crazy.
F
The
say
days
proposition
falls
in
the
midst
of
a
lot
of
traffic
hospital
traffic
traffic
for
other
schools,
the
the
street
that
changes
its
nature
and
the
mid-block,
and
it's
impacting
our
neighborhood
and
I'm
concerned.
I,
understand,
say
days:
interest
in
keeping
kids
safe.
Nobody
argues
with
that,
but
I
don't
I'm,
not
convinced
that
the
current
plan
really
solves
that
and
I
do
think
it
impacts
our
neighborhood
at
the
same
time
that
it's
not
solving
their
problems.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
G
Despite
being
the
head
of
the
Nu
City
Committee,
however,
at
the
October
council
ray
a
new
proposed
tempo
events,
Fisk
made
a
point
of
praising
and
use
extremely
sponsor
furnace
with
issues
be
Fisk,
said:
I
love,
Northwestern
students
and
they
can
pee
in
my
yard
and
every
time
they
do
they're
always
very
pleasant
about
it.
But
it's
justice.
It's
not
something.
G
We
need
to
get
totally
worked
up
over
I
quote:
ordinance,
zero,
nine
5-11,
public,
nudity,
urinating
or
defecating
in
public
a
it
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
person
to
appear
in
a
public
place
in
the
state
of
nudity
to
make
any
indecent
exposure
of
his/her
person
for
purposes
of
dissection.
Nudity
shall
be
defined
as
a
showing
of
human
male
of
female
genitals
and
pubic
areas
or
buttocks
etc.
Be
it
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
person
to
urinate
or
defecate
in
or
on
a
yard,
etc
or
in
public
view?
G
If
aldermen
fist
does
not
like
an
ordinance
she's
welcome
to
introduce
a
motion
at
Council
to
that
effect,
but
as
long
as
an
ordinance
is
part
of
the
city
code,
any
public
official
should
not
make
light
of
it
or
encourage
anyone
to
transgress
it.
It
behooves
to
the
mayor
to
have
caught
Fiskars
remark
and
reprimanded
her
on
it.
The
other
remark
is
we
have
people
up
at
the
microphone
saying.
There
are
seven
thousand
people
who
would
be
drinking
and
they're
all
going
to
be
drunk
and
they're
going
to
go
out
and
destroy
the
neighborhood.
G
H
Salutations
everyone
so
I'll
get
to
the
point.
A
coup
d'etat
most
of
the
time
occurs
when
a
nation,
its
people,
decides
through
military
force
to
remove
a
leader,
or
sometimes
it
occurs
when
a
nation
is
a
leader,
is
taken
out
of
that
position
by
another
nation.
But
a
coup
d'etat
can
also
come
in
a
less
obvious
form.
It
can
come
in
the
form
of
firing
a
person
or
personnel
from
a
key
position
for
a
critical
program.
That's
been,
you
know,
on
the
table
back
and
forth
for
being
in
Todoke
a
so.
H
Unfortunately,
some
of
us
know
what's
going
on
with
the
firing
of
Kevin
Brown,
it's
not
about
tickets,
it's
about
injustice.
So
if
the
city
of
Evanston
is
serious
about
reparations,
which
is
repairing
a
damage
specifically
toward
our
white
people
and
if
it
is
also
serious
about
justice,
which
is
a
balance
between
people
in
which
no
one
is
mistreated,
and
people
who
need
the
most
help
get
the
most
constructive
help.
I
A
J
J
I
think
it's
wrong,
that
those
of
us
who
you
know
live
on
the
east
side
and
have
a
three-story
building
house
can
build
something
you
know
garage
with
two
storeys
can
build
an
Adu,
and
yet
someone
elsewhere
in
town,
who
is
that
a
single
single-story
dwelling
or
a
two
flat
can't
it
just
it's.
It's
just
an
equity
issue
flat
on
the
face
of
it.
So
I
I,
think
that
is,
you
know
really
the
essence
of
it.
J
The
second
part
of
it
is,
we
now
put
in
as
Dick
said,
two
thousand
more
properties
that
could
potentially
create
more
affordable
housing,
and
this
is
an
easy
way
to
fix
a
what's
been
a
really
vexing
problem
for
Evanston
is
to
try
to
make
this
place
as
fairer
and
welcoming
and
equitable
as
we
can
be
so
this
is.
This
is
to
clean
up
a
well
intention,
but
but
but
flawed
piece
of
language
and
I
hope
that
you
will
move
to
do
that
today.
Thank
you.
A
K
L
Before
I
start,
my
official
comments,
I,
guess
I'd,
like
some
clarification
on
what
alderman
Rainey
unilateral,
whether
you
said
about
the
nu
liquor,
license
just
being
passed
on
to
the
city
council
tonight.
If,
if
the
city
can't
get
its
schedule
organized
so
that
he
was
supposed
to
be
discussed,
the
eight
pnw
and
it
just
automatically
gets,
kicked
back
to
the
City
Council
that
seems
like,
and
it
wasn't
voted
on
at
Appian
tubble
you
to
do
that.
It
was
just
alderman,
Rainey,
saying
we'll
just
take
it
at
City
Council
that
doesn't
seem
like
an
official
process.
L
L
I'll
start
my
three
minutes
for
P
and
D
items,
p4
and
p5
same
kind
of
comment:
why
can't
a
p--
Lacan's
and
the
City
Council
and
a
staff
get
their
act
together,
so
they
don't
have
to
ask
for
a
suspension
of
the
rules
in
this
case,
Peter
Braithwaite
on
two
items:
p4
p5,
those
should
not
be
the
rule-
should
not
be
suspended.
Those
should
be
discussed
properly.
L
Give
citizens
proper
amount
of
time
pick
it
up
in
the
next
council
meeting
for
tonight,
I'd
like
to
follow
that
with
a
statement
about
the
City
Council
conceding
its
authority
to
Northwestern
University
as
the
governing
body
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
setting
its
own
precedent
from
waiving
zoning
ordinances
requirements,
etc.
The
zoning
order
simply
now
must
be
rewritten
to
say,
trust
me.
That's
all
it
was
all
just
required
when
it
comes
to
Northwestern
going
forward.
Please
don't
preach
to
us
about
how
important
the
process
is
when
you
could
care
very
little
about
the
process.
L
The
mayor
in
the
aldermen
owned
a
legacy
owned
their
legacies
as
a
tax-and-spend
council.
More
accurately
put
you
are
the
spend
first
and
tax
later
council.
That's
something
that
will
be
your
legacy
going
into
the
next
elections:
P
and
D.
You
know
our
mayor,
the
council
and
the
city
manager
take
offense
when
citizens
and
Bree
an
elected,
official
and
or
one
and
two
staff
members
who
we
really
like
you.
You
have
been
in
fear
of
the
city,
clerk's
popularity
clerk
Reid
has
so
far
survived
your
onslaught.
I
A
A
I
L
I
L
A
N
A
O
P
P
I
P
A
M
So
this
is
ordinance
166
0
19,
granting
a
special
use
for
an
educational
institution,
private
and
religious
institution,
st.
a
school
and
parish
to
expand
off
street
parking
in
the
r1
single-family
residential
district
and
for
purposes
of
discussion.
I
move
approval
second
and
I'd
like
to
make
some
comments.
M
So
this
special
use
proposal
requires,
in
my
view,
a
difficult
balancing
act
between
meeting
the
needs
of
an
important
community
institution
while
also
maintaining
the
residential
quality
of
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
saintes
is
a
valued
community
institution
and
it's
important
that
the
church
and
the
school
remain
healthy
and
viable.
At
the
same
time,
the
east
side
of
the
2500
block
of
eastwood
has
now
lost
two
single-family
homes
and
the
expansion
of
institutional
uses.
There
has
already
eroded
the
residential
fabric
of
the
neighborhood.
M
So
looking
first
at
the
benefits
of
this
expanded
South
parking
lot,
it
would
provide
st.
a
students
with
a
safer
consolidated
play
area
on
the
majority
of
the
north
parking
lot,
but
I
think
there
was.
It
sounds
like
those
still
be
some
cars
parked
in
that
North
parking
parking
lot,
and
it
would
create
a
larger
well
designed
parking
area
for
teachers
and
staff,
one
that
would
meet
the
city's
parking
design
standards.
The
current
some
much
smaller
parking
lot
is
very
difficult
to
park
in,
but
the
proposal,
in
my
view,
does
not
solve
the
alley.
M
I've
discussed
the
idea
of
doing
this
traffic
study
with
Saintes
representatives
and
I
believe
they're
comfortable
with
my
recommendation,
because
what
I
want
to
do
is
move
to
table
this
item
until
our
February
10th,
City,
Council
or
Planning
and
Development
meeting
to
allow
city
staff
to
conduct
of
traffic
analysis
at
and
around
the
say
days
campus.
So
we
can
see
whether
there
are
any
further
adjustments
that
need
to
be
made
and
then
at
that
point
we'd
have
a
better
idea
of.
You
know
whether
we
can
move
ahead
with
the
parking
lot.
Extension
expansion,
as
proposed.
M
Q
Know-
and
we
try
to
help
everybody,
but
this
is
this
I
just
think
that
it's
it
wears
on
our
staff
to
keep
helping
everybody
in
these
cases.
This
is
this
is
something
that
developers
pay
good
money
for,
and
perhaps
the
the
church
even
has
a
traffic
engineer
or
traffic
consultant
in
their
congregation.
They
should
ask
first
I,
really
I,
think
it's
it's
costly.
P
A
P
A
R
My
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer.
So
to
do
the
tops
parking
study.
It
is
a
fairly
significant
time
commitment
on
the
part
of
our
traffic
engineer
and
our
traffic
technician.
That
would
do
the
counts
it.
It
can
be
done,
though
in-house
it
could
also
be
something
that
we
or
the
people
forum
Saintes
could
contract
out
on
it
just
be
juggling
priorities.
A
A
The
plan
Commission
and
staff
recommend
City
Council
adoption
of
ordinance
171,
o
19
is
owning
ordnance
text
amendment
to
revise
the
definition
of
coach-house
and
regulations
related
to
accessory
dwelling
units
staff
is
requesting
consideration
of
the
height
restriction
proposed
by
Planning
Commission,
which
would
require
that
an
ad
you
be
shorter
than
the
primary
residential
structure,
as
this
could
hinder
the
ability
to
expand,
affordable
housing
opportunities
in
an
equitable
manner.
This
is
for
introduction.
Do
I
have
a
second
all
right.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
alderman
revell.
A
M
N
Thank
you
I
think
mr.
Jan
Greco
made
the
points
that
I
was
going
to
make.
I
will
be
supporting
this
alright.
P
A
Right
so
all
in
favor,
like
introduction,
any
opposed
all
right
motion
passes.
That
brings
us
to
item
P
4
other
than
Braithwaite.
Isn't
that
here
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
introduce
that
ordinance,
172,
o
19
extending
the
time
for
the
applicant
to
obtain
a
building
permit
for
1815
rigid
Avenue
staff,
recommend
City
Council
adoption
of
ordinance,
172
o
19,
to
extend
the
time
for
commencement
of
construction
of
the
planned
development
at
1815,
Oak
Avenue
originally
approved
on
July
25th
2016.
A
The
ordinance
would
grant
an
extension
of
30
days
for
foundation
permit
issuance
and
90
days
from
the
date
of
foundation
permit
issuance
for
building
permit
issuance
due
to
the
single
city
council
meeting
in
December
other
and
briefly
request
suspension
of
the
rules
for
introduction
and
action
at
the
December,
9th
2019
City
Council
meeting.
This
is
for
introduction
and
action.
Is
there
a
second?
Second
all
right,
it's
been
moved
and
second,
is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
in
favor
of
extending
the
deadline?
P
S
P
N
Okay,
we're
what?
Where
was
I
okay,
granting
a
special
use
for
a
cannabis
dispensary
at
1804,
Maple,
Avenue
and
the
research
park
just
correct
his
only
Board
of
Appeals
and
staff
recommended
option
and
the
applicant
has
complied
with
all
zoning
requirements
and
meets
all
of
the
standards
for
special
use
of
this
district.
Due
to
the
single
City
Council
meeting
December
alderman
Braithwaite
requests
a
suspension
of
the
rules
for
introduction
and
action
at
the
at
tonight's
meeting,
so
I
move
introduction
in
action.
Second,.
A
T
To
the
ATU
ordinance,
it
wasn't
clear
from
your
vote
if
the
Planning
Committee
wanted
to
change
the
plan
Commission
recommendations,
so
what
the
ordinance
that
I
think
is
in
the
packet
is
the
Planning
Commission
recommendation
versus
the
discussion
that
you
had
on
the
height
restriction
is
a
change
to
the
ordinance.
So
if
you
could
amend
I'm
making
them
nun
measure.