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A
B
A
In
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
minutes
are
approved.
The
first
item
for
consideration
tonight
is
p1
ordinance,
1150
16.
It
is
a
planned
development
proposed
for
a
24
through
a
28
Noyes
Street.
The
Commission
and
staff
recommended
option
of
ordinance,
115
Oh
dash
16
for
approval
of
the
plan
development
at
8
24
through
28
Noyes
Street,
the
four-story
44
unit.
Mixed-Use
residential
building
would
have
a
3,200
square
foot
ground
floor,
commercial
space
and
35
parking
spaces
on
site.
A
A
D
Previously
I
was
head
of
development
for
greenfield
partners
who
redevelop
in
the
orrington
hotel
back
in
nineteen.
Ninety
nineteen
2004
on
that
side
and
have
lived
and
worked
in
evanston.
My
most
of
my
life
moved
here
when
I
was
five
and
stayed
here
through
high
school
went
to
Noyes
Street
noise
elementary
school
when
it
was
still
still
in
elementary
school
before
it
became
the
noise
cultural
arts
center
with
raggio
to
Haven.
My
former
mayor
Morton
was
one,
was
my
eighth
grade
teacher
at
the
time,
so
I
am
a
local
I
still
live
here.
D
My
taxes
in
evanston
live
in
the
seventh
Ward
overrun
in
Northeast
Evanston,
so
Thank,
You
counsel
for
hearing
my
presentation
and
as
paulding
chairman
Wilson
explained
its
offensive
four-story
mixed-use,
building,
44
residential
units,
10-foot
high
ceilings,
loft
style
units
with
3200
square
foot
ground
for
commercial
space,
which
we
intend
to
be
a
restaurant
sit
down.
Restaurant.
The
unit
mix
is
twenty-five
percent
studios,
27,
half
percent
one
bedrooms,
27
a
half
two
bedrooms
and
twenty
percent
three
bedrooms
want
a
note.
As
far
as
one
of
the
goals
as
I
will
touch
on
later.
D
D
So
this
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
existing
building
condition.
It's
a
one-story,
1600
square
foot,
retail
building
right
now,
it's
two
thirds
vacant
there's
a
small
fitness
studio
that
currently
is
in
one
of
the
spaces
it
used
to
be
the
noyes
street
cafe
right.
So
our
intention
is
to
keep
the
three
perimeter
walls
and
build
our
project
around
it.
We're
going
to
make
some
modifications
to
the
perimeter.
Walls
take
off
the
canopy
and
that's
I'd.
This
is
a
site
plan.
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
long,
narrow
site.
D
It's
about
70
feet
wide
by
294
feet,
long,
there's
an
existing
three-story
residential
building
too,
with
about
30
units
to
directly
to
the
east,
all
our
parking.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
shorten
up
the
ground
floor,
space
for
the
restaurant
and
utilities
and
residential
lobby.
All
the
parking
will
be
surface
parking
in
the
back
with
about
eighty
percent
of
it
covered.
So
it's
about
3035
spaces
that
are
covered.
Five
will
be
uncovered
at
the
back
of
the
property.
We've
got
screen
loading
in
the
back.
D
D
On
that
side,
some
of
the
public
benefits
that
we
wanted
to
go
through
is
say,
we're
eliminating
a
blighted
structure
on
it,
we're
going
to
maintain
portions
of
it
for
sustainability
reasons
and
also
to
not
disturb
our
neighbors.
As
far
as
a
lot
laying
foundation,
walls
and
construction
means
and
methods,
the
project
will
enhance
the
local
economy
and
tax
space
will
provide
about
125,000
dollars
in
real-estate
taxes.
That's
based
upon
2014,
as
everybody
owes
taxes
are
going
up,
so
it'll
probably
be
addition
to
that.
D
The
project
meets
the
city's
housing
goals
for
a
couple
of
ways.
We
are
the
first
project
to
proposed
putting
the
new
the
units,
the
inclusionary
housing
units
in
the
building.
We
could
buy
them
out
for
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Ten
percent
of
the
units
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
peace.
We
want
to
contribute
to
the
intent
of
the
housing
ordinance
we're
going
to
put
them
in
the
building.
This
comes
at
a
cost.
D
There's
an
additional
two
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
of
imputed
reduce
value
based
upon
putting
those
units
in
the
building
on
that
side,
so
the
total
cost
to
us
for
including
the
units
and
in
the
building's
about
six
hundred
twenty-two
thousand
dollars.
As
I
mentioned
before
we
have
four
times
the
amount
of
three
bedroom
units
provided
in
competing
residential
projects,
so
that
meets
the
goals
of
trying
to
create
larger
units
for
four
families
or
divorced
parents
who
have
children
in
the
market.
This
gives
the
list
of
improvements.
D
The
public
benefits
improvements,
we're
going
to
do
as
I
mentioned
the
Parkway
paving
landscaping.
We
play
some
innovation
sidewalk.
We
play
some
handicap
sidewalk,
the
southern
alley,
some
landscape
for
the
Jason
hot,
we're
going
to
contribute
$10,000
to
the
public
art
fund
for
a
project,
a
art
project
within
the
immediate
neighborhood,
we're
going
to
contribute
to
the
divvy
bike
program,
ten
thousand
dollars
and
we're
going
to
provide
a
real
time
transportation
board
in
the
lobby.
D
That
shows
when
the
TV
CTA
train
in
the
bus
trains
are
coming
to
the
project
and
then
we're
going
to
also
offer
karcher
memberships
for
each
one
of
our
units.
For
the
first
year
tenants,
the
project
will
reach
elite
silver
/.
The
city's
ordinance,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
going
to
retain
some
of
the
existing
foundation
walls
for
to
not
disturb
our
neighboring
properties
and
we're
going
to
provide
a
white
roof
for
the
project,
which
is
three
times
more
effective
than
a
green
roof
for
reducing
a
healin
heat
island
effect.
D
One
of
the
issues
that
we
still
are
not
agreeable
to
the
current
proposed
ordinance
is
the
staffs
recommendation
for
our
residents
to
be
not
allowed
to
obtain
off
street
parking
permits.
We
feel
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
This
is
just
discriminatory
and
it's
completely
unfair,
just
because
we're
a
new
building
that
our
residents
and
we
have
for
affordable
housing
units
if
35
spaces
on
site
which
we're
going
to
charge
for
those
spaces.
D
But
if
a
divorce
father's
got
two
kids
that
stay
with
them
three
days
a
week
and
want
to
come,
live
with
them
in
park,
they
can't
not,
according
to
the
ordinance,
get
a
parking
permit
our
affordable
tenants
that
may
not
want
to
pay
for
the
parking.
What
we're
going
to
be
able
to
charge
cannot
obtain
a
on
street
parking
permit.
D
Unfortunately,
in
the
plan
commission
deliberation,
they
were
represented
with
incorrect
information.
They
were
told
that
all
the
residents
along
Noyes
Street
did
not
have
the
ability
to
obtain
an
a
or
a
G
permit.
We
did
a
little
bit
more
research
and
we
actually
provided
that
information
prior
to
the
point
commission
meeting.
D
For
some
reason
it
was
not
not
corrected
when
plan
commission
took
it
under
deliberation,
but,
as
you
can
see,
all
the
units
in
area
our
sites,
the
only
one
that
does
not
in
a
orgy
zone
and
our
belief
is
that's
because
there's
no
residential
units
there.
If
it
had
residential
units,
it
would
be
in
the
a
zone
shown
on
the
side.
So
that's
our
presentation,
we'd
love,
to
take
questions.
E
F
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
committee,
Ricky
Vaz
parking
in
fleet
division
manager,
city
of
Evanston
as
to
an
idea
to
had
to
do
some
initial
and
some
additional
research
on
its
own
and
I
looked
up
the
ordinance
to
clarify
today
right
now,
according
to
the
ordinance
under
10
11
10,
subparagraph
f6
district,
a
permitting
in
parking
in
the
area
on
Noyes
Street,
the
only
areas
that
are
covered,
our
east
of
sherman,
going
from
on
one
side,
east
of
Sherman
to
orrington
and
then
from
orrington
to
Sheridan
Road.
F
The
area
that
the
learner
gentleman
was
speaking
about
on
noise
between
sherman
Ridge
is
not
currently
covered
under
the
ordinance.
It's
the
same
thing
with
district
G,
which
is
just
west
of
this
location
and
covers
maple
going
south
in
other
some
other
areas
going
north
of
noyes
street,
but
they
also
are
not
included
in
that
ordinance,
which
would
be
10,
11,
10,
subparagraph
78,
and
that's
and
currently
that's
the
way.
The
condition
is
that's
the
way.
The
ordinance
reads.
G
F
F
No
idea
that
ordinance
was
created.
Let
me
look
my
notes,
please.
The
original
ordinance
was
created
in
1987
for
ordinance
orrington
to
Sheridan
in
1987,
on
the
north
side,
Sherman
to
orrington
in
1989,
and
the
district
G
ordinance
was
also
created
in
1989,
and
there
have
been
no
amendments
since
that
to
the
ordinances.
G
F
G
H
H
H
F
H
F
H
B
It's
not
so
much
a
question,
but
it's
a
it's
a
comment
that
this
is
a
small
shopping
district.
Next
to
the
noise
el
station
and
we've
worked
very
hard
over
there
to
actually
increase
on
street
parking
for
the
businesses
and
we
created
some
new
faces
when
we
put
in
the
handicapped
crosswalk
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
we
created
some
new
spaces
and
found
out
that
we
could
get
a
couple
more
cars
in
there
and
so
with
the
cooperation
of
DD
finer
foods.
B
That
has
a
parking
problem
and
tries
to
protect
their
lot
from
parkers
who
may
want
to
shop
or
go
to
the
noise
cultural
arts
center
or
spend
a
little
bit
more
time.
We
we
found
a
way
to
do
this,
and
I
was
very
happy
about
that.
But
this
is
essentially
unknown
street
between
the
alley
west
of
Sherman
and
maple
is
a
business
district
and
and
the
parking
there
is
very,
very
important
to
serve
those
businesses
if
we
hope
to
attract
any
more
niche
retail
on
that
site.
B
We
really
really
need
the
on
street
parking
and
I
would
also
say
that
that
having
been
having
lived
in
that
area
for
a
very
long
time,
Sherman,
Avenue
and
maple
are
all
parked
up.
I
mean
you
cannot
park
there.
You
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
lincoln,
to
find
a
parking
space
and
add
anywhere
from
maybe
a
team
or
Parker's
on
the
street
would
be
very
difficult.
B
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
glad
there's
parking
on
the
site
and
I
I
would
strongly
encourage
and
would
ask
the
applicant
if
they
had
considered
a
lower
cost.
I
mean
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
space
on
site
I
mean
I.
Can
I
can
see
that
there
would
be
a
number
of
people
and
that
rented
space
in
that
building?
Who
would
not
want
to
pay
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
a
parking
place?
B
And
but
if
that,
if
parking
were
included
or
offered
as
part
of
the
rent,
maybe
that
would
be
something
that
folks
could
do
if
we
have
three
people
sharing
a
three
bedroom
apartment,
for
example,
with
one
car.
Maybe
they
could
split
that
cost,
but
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
I
think,
is
really
I
don't
know
anywhere
else
in
the
neighborhood
from
people
who
rent
garages
to
our
city.
Lots
that
charge
that
much
for
parking
and
I'm
just
worried
that
that's
going
to
push
more
parking
on
into
a
very,
very
congested
neighborhood.
B
C
F
A
A
J
There
are
still
major
problems
with
this
proposal.
Specifically,
the
building
is
too
tall
too
dense
for
the
neighborhood.
The
wood
frame
construction
is
inferior
to
the
surrounding
buildings.
The
developer
has
asked
for
significant
site
allowances,
but
lacks
public
benefits.
The
unit
size
means
the
building
will
be
targeted
to
students
in
a
neighborhood
that
already
suffers
overcrowded
student
houses,
absentee
landlords
and
problem
behavior.
It
should
go
without
saying
that
the
neighborhood
residents
know
from
experience
that
any
building
that
is
primarily
occupied
by
students
will
not
attract
or
retain
the
spectrum
of
residents
that
the
developer
suggests.
J
Please
ask
the
developer
to
clearly
state
how
the
city
and
county
will
be
made
whole
through
the
sale
of
this
property
and
when
he
says
that
he
it
will
remove
a
belated
building.
The
reality
is
the
only
reason
that
that
building
has
SAT
basically
empty
for
the
length
of
time
that
it
has
is
the
convoluted
question
of
the
property
taxes.
There
has
been
interest
in
that
property,
but
the
back
has
the
fact
that
taxes
hadn't
been
paid
on
that
property
for
since
2003
has
really
made
some
people
just
walk
away.
J
On
a
related
note,
please
also
ask
the
developer
why
he
declares
it
is
necessary
to
build
essentially
a
Chicago
3+1
when
the
surrounding
buildings
are
substantial,
brick
and
mortar
buildings
with
strong
foundation.
Is
there
an
environmental
study
stating
that
there
are
in
ground
conditions
that
would
necessitate
more
expensive
construction
than
to
developers
willing
to
undertake?
Let
me
say
this:
the
building
is
too
dense
for
the
site.
J
The
developers
requesting
44
units
in
the
building,
where
12
would
be
permitted
in
order
to
have
44
units
he
will
build
want
line
to
lot
line
with
no
open
space.
The
alley
south
is
much
too
small
to
accommodate
the
traffic
generated
by
the
building,
especially
truck
traffic.
Will
that
will
immediately
be
generated
by
many
tenants
moving
in?
They
will
greatly
impact
the
quality
of
life
and
there
are
no
public
benefits.
The
developer
keeps
touting
that
there
will
be
40
fordable
housing-
that's
great,
but
he's
required
to
do
that.
J
The
contribution
to
the
divvy
bike
sharing
in
the
public
art
fund
were
only
there,
because
cities
suggested
it
because
he
hadn't
come
up
with
anything.
Leed
certification
is
required
if,
as
the
developer
states,
the
35
well
you've
talked
about
the
parking
issues,
so
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
parking,
but
that
is
very
problematic
on
the
developer
is
touting
that
he
will
have
a
train
tracker
in
the
lobby.
That's
only
going
to
benefit
the
residents
and
the
crosswalk,
you
know,
there's
a
hint
there's
a
you
know
the
motorists
have
to
stop
at
the
crosswalk.
J
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that
cross.
One
on
the
only
elevator
for
both
tenants
and
furniture
is
at
the
front
of
the
building.
The
problem
with
a
single
elevator
at
the
front
of
the
building
is
that
I
can
guarantee
you
that,
because
of
the
elevators
location,
moving
trucks
will
park
on
Noyes
Street
and
create
traffic
congestion
that
will
impact
the
small
businesses
on
Noyes
Street
I
urge
you
to
reject
this
project
as
presented.
K
Don't
it
doesn't
like
we're
going
to
resolve
the
parking
questions
and
issues
tonight,
but
I
will
say
I
do
think
I'd.
Oh
I
know
I'm
in
favor
of
providing
some
sort
of
relief
for
the
the
building.
I
think
it.
It
seems
a
little
unfair
to
make
such
a
requirement
when
others
buildings
in
areas
seem
to
slip
by
on
other
sort
of
technicalities.
So
I
would
like
to
see
some
relief
on
street
parking
for
special
situations
that
might
occur
and
for
those
tenants
who
really
can't
afford
the
rate
of
parking.
K
A
You
and
then
I'm
anxious
to
see
what
additional
information
we
do
get
on
the
parking
situation.
It's
obviously
what's
up
yeah,
so
the
he's
got
it
already
about
that.
Of
course,
he
does.
You
know
the
transit-oriented
developments.
Of
course
you
want
to
walk
the
walk
and
and
have
people
use
the
transportation,
but
at
the
same
time,
other
developments,
I
think
in
town,
have
more
of
alternatives.
If
you're
close
to
a
parking
garage,
you've
got
a
clear
alternative,
so
I
do
have
some
pause
on
the
prohibition
on
the
neighborhood
parking,
but
mr.
A
F
B
Thanks
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
your
comment:
if
we're
going
to
do
that
and
take
a
look
at
north
street,
then
we
really
have
to
look
at
central
street.
We
have
to
look
at
you
know
the
rest
of
the
city
where
people
are
building
buildings
like
this
and
seeing
what
parking
relief
we're
going
to
give
them,
because
that's
going
to
create
a
real
problem,
I
mean
if
we
single
out
one,
then
we
have
to
do
it
for
everyone
and
did
we?
Let
don't
remember
the
building
on
the
newer
building
on
central
street?
B
B
E
A
I
think
getting
a
bit
of
game.
Suppose
I'll
call
it
a
recap
of
the
other
projects,
other
things
that
were
approved
and
the
resolutions
on
those
would
be
useful.
It
is
for
introductions.
We've
got
some
time
to
to
soar
through
that.
Okay,
we
might
yes
yeah
I,
say
that
I'm
record
okay,
so
you
know
for
the
lights,
all
those
in
favor
of
introducing.
Why.
L
L
I
I
just
do
feel
that
I
need
to
echo
alderman
Fisk's
comments
about
the
really
congested
parking
situation
on
sherman
avenue
and
on
Maple
Avenue.
It's
it.
If
you
go
walking
there
at
most
times
of
the
day,
you'll
see
that
it's
really
already
pretty
parked
up
and
with
regard
to
central
street,
it's
theirs.
L
We
did
not
well
was
before
my
time,
but
my
understanding
is.
We
did
not
give
the
any
permission
for
the
residents
and
those
new
buildings
to
get
resident
parking
permits,
but
I
just
would
also
say
that
the
central
street
area
is
really
congested
parking,
wise,
primarily
I,
think
because
of
the
renewed
economic
activity
provided
by
the
the
restaurants
and
such
which
I
think
we're
all
delighted
to
have
to
have
those
restaurants,
but
there's
the
spillover
in
terms
of
parking
from
from
the
restaurants.
A
A
E
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
I
just
want
to
note
that
if
you
did
move
for
introduction
that
we
will
update
the
memo
prior
to
your
meeting
two
weeks
from
now
with
all
the
parking
information,
if
there's
something
that
comes
to
mind,
you
know
in
between
now,
and
then
please.
Let
me
your
staff
now
so
that
we
can
get
as
much
parking
info
and
parking
District
info
to
you
prior
to
action.
D
I
did
in
regards
to
what
we
charge
for
parking.
We're
going
to
charge
with
the
market
bears
whether
it's
$150
weathers
hundred
dollars.
We're
going
to
have
a
full
parking
lot
in
our
building.
At
this
point,
I'm
not
concerned
about
filling
our
parking
lot
or
people
collecting
to
get
on
street
parking
above
our
parking
and
I'm
very
willing
to
commit
to
a
requirement
for
any
on
street
parking
permits.
That
I
have
to
substantiate
that.
My
parking
lot
is
full.
D
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
having
units
available
that
I
can't
rent,
because
my
parking
lot
is
full.
We
meet
the
residential
requirement
in
the
transit
oriented
development,
winning
using
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
We
are
not
asking
for
any
reduction
in
parking
for
that
ordinance
and
that
ordinance
was
set
by
the
city
in
and
by
the
council.
D
That's
there
that
what
have
have
a
car
I
mean
I,
think
we're
being
on
we're
not
asking
for
taking
away
the
commercial
spots
on
Noyes
Street
we're
just
being
asked
to
be
treated
like
any
other
building
and
I
know
it
was
just
represented
that
housing
is
not
allowed.
Hi
Trent
I
sent
you
guys
a
letter
this
morning
has
the
website
information
that
show
the
addresses
of
the
building
directly
to
my
east,
which
I
think
is
22
to
24
2022
noyes
street.
D
They
can
get
parking
spaces
and
the
units
that
are
above
in
the
900
block,
the
retail
that
are
allowed
to
get
parking
spaces.
Those
addresses
are
part
of
the
list
of
a
part
of
the
community
part
of
the
website,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
ordinance
necessarily
says,
but
that's
not
the
way
it's
been
implemented.
If
that's
the
case,
we
just
don't
want
to
be
excluded
because
we're
a
new
building
in
the
block
for
not
being
able
to
get
parking
spaces
on
three
parking
spaces
for
tenants
that
may
need
need
some.
Thank.
H
B
F
A
G
E
Mom
so
I
mean.
E
D
D
All
the
units
have
a
membership
that
they
can
share,
rideshare,
meaning
that
they
could
take
the
car
out
for
two
hours
if
they
got
to
go
to
a
grocery
store.
And
then
it's
it's
becoming
interesting
urban
environments,
a
great
way
for
people
to
to
use
a
car
for
a
short
period
time
without
having
to
go
through
the
full
rental
prices.
G
A
F
Busted
hit
I
had
your
answer.
It
just
came
in
for
the
noyes
street
parking,
okay,
the
meters
after
six,
except
on
street
cleaning
day,
which
I
think
is
the
second
Thursday
hour.
There's
no
restriction
overnight.
The
lock
underneath
the
CTA
no
restriction
overnight.
Noise,
cultural
center,
no
parking
overnight
period,
the
whole
lot
from
11
to
six.
It's.
F
C
G
A
B
A
G
A
B
G
G
I
M
Evening,
chair
Wilson
and
members
of
the
committee
damier
latina,
which
planning
a
zoning
administrator.
So
this
the
city
ordinance
differentiates
between
various
types
of
residential
care
homes
and
different
types
of
residential
care.
Homes
are
allowed
differently
across
various
districts.
Oh
so
the
category
one
which
is
four
to
eight
residents,
is
the
one
that's
allowed
by
right
in
all
our
districts,
all
be
districts,
c1a,
all
the
downtown
districts
and
then
some
manufacturing
districts
and
transitional
districts
and
then,
as
a
special
use.
M
It
is
only
allowed
that
category
1
428
residents,
it's
only
allowed
in
the
mue,
that's
mixed
use,
employment,
district
and
then
the
category
to
which
is
nine
to
15
residents.
That's
allowed
by
right
in
our
five
are
our
four,
our
five
and
our
six
districts,
which
are
more
general
residential,
mixed
or
a
higher
density
residential
districts
and
then
in
a
lot
of
others,
districts
especially
use.
A
C
E
Do
real
briefly
I
just
wanted
to
as
you're
all
well
aware.
This
is
mr.
latina
last
meeting
with
us.
No
one!
No
one
wants
to
do
more
than
me
a
juris,
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
him.
He
says
he's
been
an
excellent
neighborhood
planner
for
us
he
was
an
excellent
Planning
and
Zoning
Administrator.
He
is
taking
a
job
much
closer
to
home
so
that
he
doesn't
have
an
hour
and
a
half
drive
each
way,
which
I'm
sure
will
make
his
family
happy.
But
I
wanted
to.
Thank
him
very
much
he's
not
quite
done
yet.