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F
But
again,
I
must
express
my
concern
as
a
taxpayer
when
I
see
money
being
given
Robert
Crown
a
welcoming
Center,
and
yet,
when
it
comes
to
small
landlords.
Like
me,
the
city
of
Edmondson
seems
to
have
amnesia.
I
also
hope
that
we
stop
or
get
rid
of
this
discussion
of
Licensing
landlords
until
we
work
out
the
the
proper
procedure
for
Property
Standards
and
my
recommendation
is,
is
to
get
an
outside
agency
to
do
all
the
inspections
again.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
keep
up
your
good
work.
D
G
Now
the
500
000
they
just
asked
for
that,
and
suddenly
they
receive
it,
the
One-Stop
shop,
a
million
dollars
and
they
don't
even
have
a
plan
and
gave
them
money
the
aux,
a
million
dollars
North,
like
two
million
dollars.
We
have
been
here
asking
for
help
for
years
before
any
of
those
people
came
and
I
feel
very
slighted
about
this-
that
we
are
here
struggling
to
house
the
people
at
affordable
units
and
no
one
is
listening
at
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee.
G
Now
it
looks
like
you
have
totally
thrown
me
under
the
bus
when
councilmember
Kelly
said
many
months
ago
that
she
would
like
to
address
the
money
coming
to
us
landlords
that
are
providing
affordable
units.
You
all
said,
no
put
it
back
in
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
and
it
looks
like
that's
going
to
go
on
forever
and
we'll
never
see
any
money.
G
Also
I
just
had
a
an
inspection
at
one
of
my
properties.
Last
week
it
went
fine
I
passed,
but
here
again,
I
have
nothing
in
my
hand
to
say
that
I
passed
and
I
don't
know
if
someone
at
the
city
decides
to
write
out
additional
things
that
didn't
happen
in
the
unit
and
send
it
to
me
my
there
was
very
many
violations
about
the
inspection,
not
the
inspection
itself,
but
the
procedure.
So
my
when
I
was
notified,
it
was
notified
online.
G
All
the
inspection,
notifications
and
violations
is
supposed
to
be
mailed
to
me,
which
was
supposed
to
be
that
was
mentioned
when
I
went
for
another
thing
in
front
of
the
judge
and
the
judge
told
the
city
to
mail
me
my
violations
or
inspections
only
and
that
was
never
done.
Also
there
was
when
Ike
oboe
was
in
Property
Standards.
B
G
Five
below
there
was,
there
was
from
the
Health
and
Human
Services.
It
says:
Dear
rental,
property
owners
and
there
was
a
change
and
approved
by
the
city
on
September
6
2017
and
was
implemented
in
October,
1st
2017..
So
your
rental
property
became
you
were
either
tier
one
or
tier
two,
so
tier
one
properties
are
inspected
every
two
years,
and
that
means
that
person
receives
seven
or
more
complaints
in
three
years
and
was
found
liable
three
or
more
times
by
the
administrative
judication
for
the
previous
three
years
or.
H
G
And
then
tier
two
properties
are
inspected
every
five
years
with
the
history
of
compliance,
so
I
agree.
It
has
been
five
years
since
I
was
an
inspect
inspected,
but
on
the
back
of
the
letter
it
says,
if
you
have
less
than
five
units,
only
one
of
your
units
is
supposed
to
be
inspected
and
it
goes
on
and
it's
teared
out.
So
my
building
is
six
units,
so
it
says
if
you
have,
between
five
and
nine
units,
only
two
are
inspected.
B
Is
I
do
find
this
useful
information
because
about
the
tier
one
and
tier
two
and
how
it
works?
I
do
I,
don't
want
to
truncate
this
because
it's
exceeding
any
minutes
and
public
comment.
I
do
find
this
interesting,
and
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
that
we're
talking
about
and
I
think
that
the
type
in
the
area
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
make
Headway
on
on
this
committee,
along
with
the
three
person
we're
not
only
doing
three
person.
B
G
And
so
my
comment
is:
if
we're
gonna
do
inspections
here,
that
it
should
be
followed
properly
throughout
the
City
of
Evanston,
not
just
selected
Target,
and
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
to,
and
I
am
saying
in
my
last
inspection
they
didn't
several
things
didn't
happen
and
it's
continuing
to
happen
and,
like
I
said
I,
don't
have
anything
in
my
hand
to
say
that
I
passed
the
inspection
and
I
don't
know
if
the
inspection
department,
you
know
made
my
like
to
make
up
something
and
send
it
to
me
in
the
mail
later.
Okay,.
B
G
G
K
H
Know
until
a
few
minutes
ago,
this
meeting
was
starting,
but
I
do
want
to
say
something
so
bear
with
me,
might
ramble
a
little
bit.
I
live
near,
and
you
and
while
I
know
that,
and
the
Nu
area
is
not
the
only
area
of
concern
in
Evanston.
It
is
a
very
large
area
and
a
change
such
as
the
elimination
of
the
definition
of
family
or
the
expansion
of
the
number
of
unrelated
people
that
are
allowed
in
a
single
dwelling
unit
has
the
potential
to
change
this
very
large
area
into
student
housing.
H
H
That
most
of
us
know,
except
for
the
very
rich,
and
please
consider
this
area
and
just
don't
dismiss
it
as
people
complaining
about
a
little
extra
density,
any
home
can
already
have
and
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
any
single
family
home
could
therefore,
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
have
six
unrelated
people
living
in
it.
I'm
sorry,
I
said
any
home.
H
B
E
E
I,
guess
is
that
true,
so
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
you
know
three
or
more
unrelated
also
would
apply
to
someone
living
in
an
apartment
unit
and
therefore,
wouldn't
it
apply
to
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
as
well.
I
just
want
to
get
confirmation
on
that
that
what
was
it
sounds
like
what
was
just
stated
is
that
six
or
more
unrelated
could
live
in
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
that.
B
E
B
D
Know
absolutely,
but
they
would
the
the
number
of
people
who
can
live.
There
is
still
dictated
by
the
square
footage
and
the
configuration
so
and
then,
of
course,
as
of
right
now
it
they
can't
have
more
than
three
unrelated.
So
I'll
give
an
example.
If
somebody
had
a
very
large
house,
you
can
make
an
Adu
that
is
one
floor
and
it
could
be
larger
than
the
thousand
square
foot
limit.
That
would
be
if
you
were
to
build
a
detached
Adu.
So.
B
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K
K
We
still
don't
have
a
way
of
defining
it.
We
have
no
way
of
enforcing
it.
Our
Police
Department
is
understaffed,
and
you
know
I
personally,
don't
want
to
involve
the
police
in
matters
that
should
be
able
to
be
settled.
Otherwise,
prevention
is
our
our
our
best
bet
here
to
change
the
rule
across
Evanston
would
radically
change
a
certain
part
of
Evanston
and,
incidentally,
I'm
not
completely
convinced
that
it
wouldn't
change.
K
Seen
no
stomach
for
doing
that
work,
so
I
would
I
would
strongly
Advocate
keeping
the
current
world
rule
in
place,
taking
a
measured
approach,
looking
at
it
by
at
a
community
by
Community
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
approach
and
not
applying
a
cookie
cutter
across
as
again
as
someone
who
lived
through
it,
it
it
just,
it
really
will
rapidly
destroy
the
neighborhoods
that
are
around
Northwestern
within
walking
distance
of
Northwestern
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
your
discussion
on
this
I'm.
A
strong
advocate
of
more
housing
in
the
community.
B
Thank
you
so
much
Diane
I
really
appreciate
those
comments
and
I'd
like
to
comment
more
on
that,
but
we'll
first
let
the
others
speak.
So
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate,
and
that
is
what
this
committee
is
about.
Trying
to
resolve
in
a
community
way
figure
out
the
best
way
to
resolve
the
issue.
So
we
have
more
affordable
housing
for
families
and
others
and
address
the
issues
that
you
described,
which
I
experience
all
the
time
as
a
council
member
from
emails
from
residents
in
this
area,
Okay.
So.
M
N
Hi
well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
to
council
member
Burns.
Maybe
it
wasn't
obvious.
Rooming
house
is
not
an
apartment.
They're
two
separate
parts
of
the
code
to
relate
to
those
and
that's
where
you're
getting
the
more
than
three
or
the
three
or
more
and
nobody's
really
talking
I.
Think
here
about
rooming
houses
is
that's
really
all
I
wanted
to
say,
but
I
just
want
to
I
just
want
to
pose
a
question.
N
I
I
think
the
woman
who
was
talking
about
the
you
know
trying
to
get
the
police
to
do
something
to
break
up
parties,
and
that
is
you
know
it's
long-standing
since
before
she
moved
to
Evanston
and
I
also
think
actually
that
the
student
issue
is
the
tail
wagging
the
dog
and
that
they're
I
I
kind
of
don't
see.
This
committee
is
taking
out
a
whole
of
the
Town
approach.
B
Thank
you
so
much
Lisa
I
know
this
is
I,
think
we
all
do
but
I
know
it's
a
I
think
coming
to
a
resolution
and
figuring
out
our
code
and
Zoning
so
that
it
does
do
everything
I
agree
with
you.
That's
the
intent
here
is
to
make
some
progress.
Finally,
through
this
committee,
so
I
hope
we
will
I
with
you
I
hope.
We
finally
see
progress.
That
residents
are
satisfied
with
and
if
I
don't.
N
B
B
I
did
do
tour
the
the
ward
with
representatives
from
the
University,
knocking
on
doors,
where
we,
where
there
were
students,
students
living
to
have
conversations
with
students
about
being
good
neighbors,
so
I'm
going
to
continue
doing
that,
and
we
intend
to
hold
some
neighborhood
meetings
with
property
owners
residents
and
the
students.
So
please
it's
this
Thursday
at
7
30
and
it's
helpful.
This
is
all
something
that
I'm
working
on
with
Dave
Davis
from
from
that
sort
of
Vantage
of
of
getting
out
and
talking
to
our
students
who
live
in
the
wards.
B
O
Hi
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
as
I've
listened
to
this
conversation
there's
a
couple
things.
The
student
behavior
is
one
thing
and
I'm
so
glad
to
know
you're
working
with
Dave
Davis,
because
there
are
lots
of
things
that
universities
all
over
the
country
have
done
to
try
to
improve
the
behavior
of
students
or
cause
students
to
be
more
reliable
neighbors.
But
do
you
also
have
the
issues
of
landlords,
people
driving
up
prices,
people
buying
home
houses
to
rent?
O
That's
an
Enforcement
issue
of
a
different
type
and
regulations
to
manage
that
could
be
in
could
be
put
in
place.
They
aren't
now
and
working
with
the
real
estate
Community,
which
some
of
whom
are
very
very
dedicated
to
this
would
be
useful.
So
I
think
you
want
to
look
at
student
behavior
in
the
University
issues.
They
may
need
to
build
more
housing.
C
O
Students-
maybe
it's
time
they
look
at
that
and
landlords.
We
may
need
to
look
at
different
kind
of
enforcement
policies
for
managing
the
excesses,
and
it's
just
a
thought
and
I
like
anyway.
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
two
kind
of
separate
pieces
here
and
the
parts
of
the
city
that
could
really
stand
to
have
the
three
unrelated
rule
removed,
for
other
reasons,
would
benefit
highly
if
it
was
not
again
a
cookie
cutter
approach.
Thank
you.
L
L
L
L
If
you
have
sellers
who
agree
to
that,
and
your
community
can
work
in
that
way,
then
then
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
A
lot
of
times
people
their
home
is
there
is
their
biggest
investment
or
whatever
real
estate
they've
purchased
is,
is
their
biggest
investment.
So
that's
very
hard
for
people
to
come
into
that
I
I'm,
trying
to
say
that
there
are
two
sides
to
the
transaction
right:
it's
not
only
the
buyer,
but
it's
also
the
seller
right.
L
L
I
I
do
want
to
shed
a
little
bit
of
light
on
that
I,
don't
know
how
that
can
be
policed
or
instituted
in
the
real
estate
market.
I
have
worked
in
communities
where
neighbors
have
assembled
real
estate
purchasing
groups
and
we've
purchased
historic
properties
that
we
didn't
want
demolished
because
we
had
to
find
a
way
to
outbid
developers.
L
L
I
do
and
I
may
be
wrong
about
this,
but
I
do
believe
that
there
may
be
kind
of
this
push
to
move
these
properties
towards
rooming
house
status
and
I.
Really.
As
someone
who
knows,
Evanston
very
intimately,
I
think
it's
a
very
disastrous
idea.
It's
an
entirely
different
business
than
running
an
apartment.
Building
and
I
don't
think
it's
good
for
the
community.
L
I
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
that
be
kind
of
push
to
the
back
burner
as
a
Last
Choice
option,
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
work
to
to
run
a
successful
apartment
building
and
then
to
turn
that
into
a
rooming
house.
It's
a
whole
other
layer
of
different
kind
of
services
that
you're
obligated
to
oblige,
as
well
as
different
kind
of
inspections
that
you
need
to
have
and
I
I.
L
I
did
not
understand
the
dynamic
when
I
was
getting
into
it.
I
come
from
a
very
different
kind
of
world
than
the
Northwestern
students
and
I
didn't
go
to
the
university
like
Northwestern,
but
I.
Just
to
give
you
some
perspective.
I
have
a
group
of
students
who
occupied
a
property
of
mine.
I,
have
every
single
possible
piece
of
legal
jargon
and
language
in
my
lease
and
in
my
Riders
to
prohibit
certain
disruptive
behaviors.
L
Nonetheless,
I
had
a
case
last
year
where
these
tenants
I
have
them
write
me
a
written
proposal
to
ask
for
permission
to
have
a
gathering
of
more
than
three
people
and
I
denied
their
application,
and
they
had
the
party
nonetheless,
and
it
was
it
was
a
mad
house,
I
mean
I.
I
really
have
never
seen
anything
like
it
and
I
I
love
you
to
find
per
my
per
my
lease,
along
with
other
things,
and
now
they're
suing
me
back
because
all
of
them
have
law.
L
Parents
who
are
attorneys
and
I
have
everything
in
writing.
You
know.
I
have
a
full-time
attorney,
but
I
want
the
community
to
understand
that
the
landlords
would
really
nobody
wants
to
have
a
building.
That's
mismanaged
it's
not
in
the
interest
of
somebody
who
goes
and
buys
a
property
and
has
a
mortgage
on
it
and
spends
time
in
their
building,
but
I
I
would
I
would
say
that
it.
L
It
would
behoove
the
neighbors,
maybe
not
to
vilify
all
of
the
landlords,
because
I've
had
some
comments
that
have
made
it
so
difficult
for
me
to
work
in
the
area
and-
and
it's
it's
really
hard
when
you
can't
work
with
your
neighbor,
there
may
indeed
be
landlords
who
who
want
what
they
call
an
armchair
investment
right.
They
buy
some
building.
Who
knows
where
and
then
they
you
know,
but
these
buildings
aren't
like
that.
L
G
L
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing
that
I
think
is
maybe
the
most
important
point
and
I'm.
So
sorry,
I
I
went
over
my
time,
but
if
you
own
a
building,
you
are
obligated
to
abide
by
federal
housing
laws
and
I
as
a
as
a
building
owner.
I
I
truly
am
telling
this
group
very
frankly.
I,
do
not
know
how
on
Earth
I
can
ask
the
questions
of
the
people
who
come
to
rent
my
properties
without
being
liable
to
be
fined
by
the
Illinois
Department
of
federal
and
Professional
Regulations
I
am
uncomfortable,
asking
people.
L
L
We
have
people
in
different
Wards
who
have
many
many
children
who
are
very
very
loud.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
in
different
coming
from
different
communities
who
they
get
housing
vouchers
and
those
kinds
of
families,
I,
don't
think
I
would
I.
Don't
think
the
community
would
be
happy
with
me
putting
that
on
their
Ward
right,
so
I
think
it's
a
matter
of.
I
And
sure
I'd
like
to
jump
in
there
since,
since
the
since
you're
having
the
meeting
be
truncated,
I
I
really,
and
it
seems
like
we're
not
going
to
get
to
the
actual
conversation
based
on
that.
So
I
just
want
to
underscore
What
Mr
Salim
just
said
there
I
think
that's
really
critical
to
the
discussion
when
it
comes
up
at
the
next
meeting
and
I
hope
we
can
run
more
regimented
meetings
in
order
to
get
to
the
actual
meet
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
But
yeah
go.
I
Do
not
believe
that
the
city
should
be
in
the
business
of
defining
families
and
forcing
landlords
or
other
people
to
Define
what
a
family
is
to
to
those
folks.
I
think
you
know,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
clear
codes
on
how
many
people
can
occupy
a
certain
amount
of
habitable
space,
but
we
don't
want
to
be
defining
families.
We
don't
want
to
get
in
the
business
of
you
know
it's
it's
a
it's
a
complex
and
delicate
subject.
B
I
B
Corporations
you
can
watch
the
video
because
it
was
at.
It
was
very
detailed
and
I.
Ask
that
you
please
watch
that
video
before
we
embark
on
an
actual
discussion
as
a
committee
he
was
brought
in
to
to
to
talk
about.
From
the
other
side,
we've
had
staff
discuss
a
good
number
of
times
the
reasons
that
they
you
know
it
has
been
pushed
forward.
This
idea
of
eliminating
family
I
ask
that
you
please
hear
the
other
side
in
the
presentation
that
was
made
at
the
last
meeting.
B
E
You
know
I
set
aside
my
time
purposely
to
have
you
know
the
meetings
that
we
have
so
I
would
ask
you
know:
I,
don't
think
we're
voting
on
anything
today
is
because
I
know
you
have
another
meeting
if
we
can
continue
the
meeting
after
you
know
after
you
have
to
leave,
because
I
have
questions
that
I
need
to
in
order
to
kind
of
keep
up
with
this
discussion,
I
would
like
an
opportunity
to
thank
staff
questions.
While
we
have
everyone
on.
E
B
And
by
the
way
I
mean
this
is
recorded
and
I
will
say
that
Community
comment
and
input
is
so
important
to
informing
our
decisions.
This
is
not
wasted
time
when
our
community
members
are
sharing,
we
want
to
come.
You
know
we
have
not
yet
resolved
this
issue.
It's
been
years
that
this
has
been
an
issue
where
it's
been
a
serious
problem.
B
We've
had
serious
problems
with
regard
to
I,
think
increasing
prices
of
of
rent
and
homes
and
and
again
as
a
as
an
alderman
I,
constantly
hear
of
issues
I,
just
one
house
around
the
corner,
the
police
I
think
in
the
last
month
was
called
four
times.
They
had
to
write
reports
because
of
issues
related
to
what
we're
we're
talking
about.
Now.
These
were
not
families
living
in
these
homes.
These
were
homes
that
were
divided
with
adus
and
and
over
capacity.
B
So
okay,
so
Jim
Swanson
for
people
who've,
attended
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
hear
everybody's
comments
again
I'm
taking
meticulous
notes.
This
is
recorded
and
this
does
help
and
we
should
not
be
making
our
decisions.
Also.
We
should
hear
from
the
community
in
order
to
make
decisions
for
our
community.
E
E
B
J
B
M
So
just
a
couple
of
additional
comments:
I
know
that
that
registration
is
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
need
to
get
to,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
everything
does
get
registered.
Also,
when
you're
registering
a
property,
you
can
register
it
as
a
in
terms
of
the
type
of
property
that
it's
going
to
be
used
and
I
think
those
are
things
that
all
need
to
be
addressed.
M
Missileam
you
own
10
properties,
just
in
the
Fifth
Ward
on
Maple
Avenue,
so
you
own
an
awful
lot
of
Maple
Avenue.
What
this
has
done
is
it's
really
changed
the
the
shape
of
our
neighborhood.
This
used
to
be
a
family,
neighborhood
I've
lived
here
all
my
life,
and
currently
we
don't
have
any
Kids
on
the
Block.
My
daughter
grew
up
to
no
other
kids
around.
This
is
this.
M
This
changes
it
and
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
controlled
for
registration
through
licensing
and
whatever
else
needs
to
happen
and
to
here,
because
it
really
does
change
the
the
shape
of
the
of
the
neighborhood,
and
many
of
these,
as
you
speak
to
to
the
higher,
are
making
the
higher
sale.
Some
of
these
properties
never
ever
hit
the
market.
Nobody
ever
sees
them
hitting
it.
So,
yes,
they
may
be
making
the
purchasing
it
at
that.
But
it's
changing
the
neighborhood
and
it's
not
changing
it.
For
the
better.
F
H
Is
that
okay,
I'm
sorry
I'll
be
fast?
Let's
see
three
points:
current
non-investor
property
owners.
We
bought
our
homes
of
the
expectation
that
at
most,
three
unrelated
people
would
be
allowed
in
our
home
and
in
our
neighbor's
home,
which
meant
that
we
could
rely
on
not
having
large
number
of
students
living
next
door.
No
investor
should
have
bought
a
property
banking
on
the
fact
that
the
three
unrelated
person
rule
would
not
be
enforced.
H
I've
done
some
research.
There
are
very
few
communities
who
do
not
have
a
definition
of
family
to
have
some
sort
of
control
over
density
versus
Next,
To
None,
the
question
of
families
came
up
and
Property
Owners
be
landlords
being
uncomfortable
about
asking
whose
family
and
who's
not
family.
Well,
we
do
know
that
groups
of
students
are
definitely
not
family.
H
My
single
family,
home,
smaller
than
many
single-family
homes
nearby
could,
without
modification
using
the
property
maintenance
code,
occupancy
standards
house
at
least
10
students
with
minor
modification.
If
you
added
two
walls,
you
could
house
two
more
with
an
Adu
six
more
and
that
totals
between
18
and
20
and
multiply
that
by
10
houses
per
block.
That's
2!
000
people,
it's
just
crazy,
that's
all
for
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
H
B
B
B
So
let's
see,
if
you
our
next
item
I,
it's
we
have
two
items
for
discussion
this
evening:
registration
ways
to
improve
our
rental
registration
and
inspection
and
then
the
definition
of
family
I
think
my
idea
as
a
chair
is
I
would
hope
that
I
realize
that
the
definition
of
family
is
a
Hot
Topic
that
might
go
on
for
several
meetings
several
months.
I
would
hope
that
we
can
also
move
to
at
least
take
some
measures
recommend
some
measures
to
improve
the
situation
with
regard
to
registration
and
inspection
concurrently.
B
B
P
P
Don't
have
that
we
can't
I.
My
database
doesn't
support
it
right
now.
I
know
that
that
was
the
intent
when
the
health
department
instituted
that,
because
we
were
working
with
this
new
software
that
they
were
hopeful.
We
would
do
that,
but
it
is
not
currently
set
up
to
to
make
that
available.
I
mean
that
is
my
intent
long
term,
but
right
now
it's
not
set
up
to
do
that,
so
we've
never
been
able
to
do
tier
one
and
tier
two.
B
P
Only
thing
that
we're
doing
in
terms
of
increased
inspections
for
people
who
have
frequent
violations
is
if
we
get
complaints
and
that's
typically
how
it
comes
up,
I
mean
a
tenant,
will
complain
or
a
neighbor
will
complain
and
we'll
send
an
inspection
letter
and
do
an
inspection
or
we'll
schedule
an
inspection
with
the
tenant
and
we'll
go
out
and
do
a
complaint
inspection.
So
if
there
are
violations,
yes
we're
doing
more,
but
not
based
on
our
routine
rental
inspection,
the
system
is
not
set
up
to
do
tiered
inspections.
That
way.
Yet.
Okay.
P
We
we
don't
when,
when
this
was
implemented
in
the
health
department,
we
were
working
on
getting
a
new
database
at
that
time,
which
is
the
current
database
that
we
have
now,
but
it
was
not
implemented
properly
so
that
we
were
able
to
do
those
tiered
inspections.
That's
not
part
of
what
was
done
to
set
up
the
database
for
us,
so.
P
Sorry,
maybe
maybe
we
do
it
was
not
part
of
the
way
it
was
set
up.
It
wasn't
built
to
do
tiered
inspections,
so
if
we
spend
more
time
on
it
and
put
it
together,
we
might
be
able
to,
but
the
intent
is
also
that
we
look
into
putting
Property
Standards
into
the
Civic
platform
database,
which
is
the
same
database.
The
permit
software
uses,
and
this
way
we
have
a
holistic
approach
to
all
of
our
buildings
in
town
in
relation
to
inspections
and
permits,
and
what
what
a
property
is
doing
that
crosses
over
for
both
divisions.
P
B
P
A
D
D
So,
if
the
properties,
this
is
what
Angel
was
talking
about,
if
the
property
was
a
tier
one
and
would
require
more
frequent
inspections,
it
would
be
automatically
set
up
based
on
when
you
do
the
inspection
and
put
in
that
report.
If
it
were
one
that
could
that
was
much
cleaner
inspection
shall
we
say
than
it
would
it
would
set
it
on
a
different
schedule
and
actually
the
systems
can
be
set
up
to
send
notices
as
well.
Now
many
people
are
happy
to
get
things
by
email.
D
B
Great
thank
you
and,
with
regard
to
so
I,
think
many
of
the
issues
that
we
find
in
terms
of
both
for
the
tenants
and
the
neighborhoods,
as
we've
mentioned
before,
involve
what
seems
to
be
a
low
rate
of
rental
registration,
so
I,
just
I
I
think
we
could.
It
seems
that
there
are
measures
that
could
be
taken
now
to
improve
what
we've
talked
about
in
previous
meetings.
B
B
P
We've
we've
talked
about
it
internally.
One
of
the
ideas
that
came
up
is
instead
of
putting
addresses
out
there
or
anything
that
we
work
with
our
our
GIS
and
we
identify
the
properties
that
are
registered
rentals
and
we
put
them
on
a
map,
so
people
can
locate
them
on
the
map
instead
of
just
calling
out
things,
it's
more
I,
don't
know
it
just
seems
to
be
less
in
your
face
for
a
landlord
who
might
not
want
to
be
notified
or
put
out
there
and
then
neighbors
landlords.
P
You
know
tenants
can
give
us
information
through
3-1-1
or
an
email
that
their
property
may
or
may
not
be
registered,
and
then
we
would
do
the
research
to
look
into
that.
We
haven't
gotten
to
that
yet,
but
that
was
the
one
of
the
ideas
that
came
up
at
one
of
our
other
meetings.
That
I
thought
was
a
really
good
idea
was
putting
it
out
on
a
map.
P
Additionally,
this
doesn't
cover
registration,
but
I
want
to
make
it
a
point
that
on
our
website,
that
you
have
the
ability
to
look
at
your
property
and
see
if
there's
any
violations
and
to
miss
Peyton's
point
the
reason
that
we
don't
list
those
violations
is
because
oftentimes
they
are
related
to
a
certain
unit,
and
we
don't
want
the
next
door
neighbor
to
know
that
you
know
Mrs,
Smith
and
Unit
B
has
these
particular
violations.
So
we
refer
people
to
Property
Standards
for
information.
P
If
you
have
an
open
case,
we
don't
disclose
any
of
the
violations.
We
only
disclose
that
there
is
an
open
case,
so
you
can
still
look
at
that,
but
it
doesn't
relate
to
registration.
That
might
be
something
we
could
do
to
see
if
it's
a
registered
property
on
that
link
as
well,
but
I'd
have
to
check
with
our
software
to
see
if
they
can
add
that
to
the
search.
B
P
E
And
also
chair
this,
that
was
a
it
was
a
staff
idea,
but
it
came
out
of
the
other,
the
working
group
that
we
have
established
and
we
have.
We
just
had
our
second
meeting,
which
was
authorized
by
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee.
Our
second
working
group
meeting,
which
is
what
was
authorized
and
we'll
be
having
that
particular
recommendation,
plus
others
coming
back
to
Planning
and
Development
Committee
soon,
so.
B
P
Do
not
I
have
to
I
have
to
we'd
have
to
figure
out.
You
know
pulling
a
list
of
registered
rentals
from
the
database
and
then
getting
that
information
to
GIS
and
seeing
how
long
it
would
take
them
to
map
it.
I
don't
know,
but
we
can
certainly
I'll
make
sure
to
send
an
email
to
interested
parties
and
get.
D
D
There
is
a
lot
of
work
being
done
by
our
staff
to
try
to
clean
up
the
database.
Data
have
been
pulled
out
into
Excel,
try
to
get
rid
of
duplicates,
try
to,
and
inspectors
are
looking
at
contact
information
to
try
to
update
it.
So
we're
also
trying
to
get
a
much
cleaner
list.
We
have
a
lot
of
duplicates
and
a
lot
of
when
we
did
a
mailing
to
all
of
the
landlords
that
we
could
identify
to
try
to
get
input
for
the
small
landlord
program.
D
E
P
She's
correct
not
in
this
current
database
God
sense
as
well
as
our
previous
database
when
we
were
working
in
the
old
database.
None
of
our
systems
produced
a
document.
That
said
you
have
no
inspection
or
no
violations.
What
happens
is
we
do
the
inspection
we
come
back
in.
We
make
a
note
in
the
case
that
says
the
inspection
was
conducted,
no
violations
were
observed
and
we
closed
the
case.
P
We
have
never
sent
compliance
letters
to
people
because
I
could
do
the
inspection
this
morning
and
send
you
a
letter
tomorrow
when
I'm
back
at
my
desk,
and
you
could
have
a
violation
tomorrow.
So
we've
never
sent
compliance
inspection
letters,
we
only
come
back
and
we
make
the
note
into
Miss
Payton's
point
I
checked
the
case
from
the
inspection
that
she
had
last
week
and
the
inspector
did
make
the
note
that
no
violations
were
observed.
E
To
the
point
of
a
seller
again
in
Gulf
sense
is
not
a
seller
just
to
be
clear.
That's
correct,
two
different
systems,
so
the
my
understanding
about
a
seller,
because
Sarah
says
something
a
bit
earlier
that
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we
would
go
out
for
another
another
RFP.
My
understanding
is
that
we
wouldn't
do
that
that
the
idea
is
just
to
work
with
the
seller
as
opposed
to
go
out
in
an
RFP
even.
D
Working
within
a
seller,
what
you
do
is
you
go
out
for
an
RFP,
because
usually
they
have
it's
sort
of
like
an
oem.
There's
a
you:
have
a
companies
that
help
you
implement
it.
They
can
turn
on
the
software
so
that
you
have
access
to
that
module,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
actually
get
your
workflows
done
and
and
and
and
make
it
functional
for
each
individual
organization.
That's
using
it.
It's
not
like.
We
all
have
the
same
report
forms
it's
not
like.
We
all.
P
Property
Standards
is
a
very
small
down
the
line
subsection
of
the
RFP
that
we
put
out
for
the
building
division,
RFP
that
we
got
that
money
for
to
that
we're
working
on
now.
So
it
was
prioritized
that
we
wanted
it
to
be
building
department
and
permits
Zone,
Planning
and
Zoning
health
department
and
business
registration
and
Property
Standards
was
at
the
end
of
that.
So
we
know
that
Property
Standards
is
going
to
be
a
piece
of
that,
but
we
don't
know
what
piece
they're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
under
their.
P
You
know
roll
out
the
door
package
or
do
we
have
to
have
it
configured
and
if
we
have
to
have
it
configured,
then
we
have
to
decide
exactly
what
we
need
and
how
we
want
it
to
work
and
do
an
RFP
so
that
they
can
provide
the
the
cost
of
how
how
long
it's
going
to
take
and
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
for
them.
To
put
that
together.
For
us,
I
did
attend
a
sample.
P
You
know,
if
you
will,
they
walked
us
through
their
their
out
of
the
box
system
that
they
have,
and
it's
pretty
good.
But
it's
not
going
to
do
everything
that
we
wanted
to
do.
They're
going
to
have
to
do
some
configuration
for
us
similar
to
what
they're
doing
right
now
with
the
building
permits,
because
everybody
has
a
little
bit
of
a
different
tweak
in
what
their
ordinances
require
and
what
their
processes
are.
So
we
know
that
it's
coming,
but
Property
Standards
is
down
the
line
for
that.
P
Built
permits
is
on
a
seller.
Anybody
who
uses
or
or
does
work
on
permits
is
on
a
seller.
Acella
has
the
capability
to
be
an
all-encompassing
City
system,
where
everybody
would
be
able
to
see
what
everybody
else
is
doing.
We
may
not
be
able
to
go
in
and
change
anything
we
would
have
read-only
rights,
so
I
might
be
able
to
go.
B
I,
just
one
more
comment
on
the
registration
yeah,
so
if
I
could
just
just
to
wrap
up
the
item,
which
I
think
is
great,
the
progress
being
made
on
the
registration
look
forward
to
seeing
that,
will
there
also
be
a
mechanism
or
if
there
isn't,
could
you
include
a
mechanism
to
include
for
folks
to
send
in
addresses
for
unlisted
rentals,
so
I
realize
it
won't
be
public?
That
would
just
go
to
you,
but
could
you
include
some
sort
of
a
link
or
some
mechanism?
P
Honestly,
I
would
recommend
that
they
put
it
in
3-1-1.
It's
the
easiest
way
for
us
to
track.
You
know
we'd
be
able
to
track
that.
We
received
15
complaints
over
the
last
over
the
last
month
of
unregistered
rentals,
and
then
we
would
very
easily
be
able
to
run
the
report
and
see
what
the
outcome
of
that
was.
Were
they
really
unregistered,
or
did
they
just
for
whatever
reason
not
populate
on
the
list,
because
that
might
be
a
case
too
so
I
think
311
is
the
best
way.
P
D
B
So
if
it
could
just
be
I
would
say
on
whatever
that
the
map
and
the
roster
that
sounds
great
angel
I
would
just
say,
maybe
put
a
note
on
there.
Please,
if
you,
you
know
if
you
think,
there's
a
a
location
of
property,
that
is
a
rental
property,
please
contact
3-1-1,
and
just
just
so
it's
on
there
I
think
just
direct
people.
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
Okay.
B
P
If
we
Implement
a
fine
without
doing
anything
else,
the
code
currently
allows
unregistered.
Never
before
never
before
registered
rentals,
we
have
the
ability
to
instead
of
assessing
the
200
fee,
we
can
assess
a
75
fee
or
instead
of
assessing
just
the
200
fee.
We
can
add
75
sorry
because
it's
a
200
initial
fee,
we
can
automatically
charge
them
275
if
it's
an
unregistered
rental.
However,
we
have
not
done
that
because
historically,
we've
always
given
people
the
chance
to
bring
a
property
or
a
violation
into
compliance.
P
So
what
we
do
if
we
find
an
unregistered
rental
list,
we
send
them
a
notice
of
violation.
We
give
them
the
Code
section.
We
give
them
a
time
to
come
into
compliance
if
they
don't
come
into
compliance
and
we
have
to
write
a
ticket,
then
we
bring
it
to
Administrative
Hearings,
where
they
could
be
fined
daily,
fine
up
to
the
judge's
discretion
instead
of
just
a
75
dollar
fine,
so
it
it
depends.
You
know.
P
B
P
B
P
P
P
B
So
I
know
you
know,
I
believe
Ms,
Schechter
and
others
have
spoken
to
successful
registration
programs
and
a
lot
of
those
programs
I
know
were
successful
because
of
the
you
know,
the
fear
of,
or
the
threat
of
a
fine
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that
it
should
be
an
initial
one.
But
it
does
seem
that
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
strengthen
if
we
can
strengthen
that
that
process,
so
that
it
encourages
more
people
to
because
it
sounds
to
me
like
we're
not
finding
much
right.
B
D
Think
we
could
certainly
look
at
that
when
we
did
the
amnesty
for
rentals
of
Coach
houses
when
we
first
legalized
it
one
of
the
things
that
we
said
was
hey.
You
know,
register
by
X
date
and
you'll
pay
the
200
registration
fee
and
you'll.
You
know,
give
us
your
floor
plan
and
we'll
make
sure
that
everything
is
safe
and
all
that
stuff.
D
But
but
you
won't
be
fined
if
you're,
if
you
register
by
that
date
and
what
was
interesting
is
one
of
our
Alderman
at
the
time
said-
be
sure
to
broaden
this
to
other
non-registered
rental,
because
there
are
a
lot.
That
could
be
something
that
they
could
also
register
and
you
know
benefit
from
not
being
fined
and
we
did
get
a
number
of
of
other
non-adus
that
were
registered,
especially
from
condominium
associations
that
were
renting
out
a
condo
unit
or
two.
It
was
very
interesting.
I.
Don't
have
a
real
quantification
of
that.
D
But
there
are
you
know
there,
and
you
know
we
do
say.
If
you
are
renting
a
dwelling
unit,
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
in
a
condominium
building,
if
you're
renting
it
with
a
lease
you're
supposed
to
be
registered
and,
of
course,
if
you
were
doing
an
Airbnb
you're
supposed
to
be
licensed.
So
you
know
we
and
I
think
that
we
can.
We
can
look
at
doing
something
similar
to
that,
because
when
you
give
a
time
limit,
it
tends
to
make
people
more
motivated.
Shall
we
say
right.
B
P
I
was
I
was
just
going
to
say,
I'm,
sorry
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
way
that
it's
done,
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who,
maybe
not
so
much
now,
because
housing
prices
are
rising
again,
but
we've
run
into
a
lot
of
people.
Who've
purchased
homes,
thinking
it
would
be
a
great
investment,
they
they
buy
it
out
of
foreclosure
or
they
buy
it
out
of
a
short
sale,
and
they
don't
even
realize
that
it's
supposed
to
be
rented
I
mean
you
know
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
advertising.
P
That
says,
you
need
to
register
your
rental
property
right,
so
I
think
if,
if
you're
a
person
and
if
we
find
an
unregistered
rental-
and
you
don't
have
any
registered
rentals
under
your
name
or
any
licensed
LLC
To,
You,
Right,
Where
You-
should
have
already
known
about
the
program.
Then
I
think
those
type
those
people
are
the
people
who
should
get
that.
You
know
that
warning
and
that
chance
to
bring
it
into
compliance
and
do
that.
P
But
if
you
purchase
a
property-
and
you
are
already
a
property
owner-
whether
it's
under
your
given
name,
your
husband's
given
name
or
an
LLC
with
you
as
the
manager-
and
you
already
know
there
registration
is
required,
then
I,
don't
think
you
should
have
a
chance
if
we're
going
to
look
at
changing
the
way
that
we're
doing
things,
because
you
already
know
about
the
program.
There
are
plenty
of
people
that
don't.
But
if
you
already
know
about
it,
you
should
know
you
bought
property,
one
two
three
and
you
should
be
registering
it
agree.
B
B
B
P
We
require
people
to
give
us
owner
information.
We
also
require
people
that,
if
you
don't
per
the
code,
I
should
say
for
the
code
you're
supposed
to
give
us
all
of
the
owner
information
or
managers.
If
you
have
a
property
manager
you're
supposed
to
disclose
that
information,
if
you
live
more
than
50
miles
away
from
the
city
of
Evanston
you're
supposed
to
provide
us
a
property
manager.
P
However,
our
current
rental
registration
fees,
20
for
a
single
family
for
thirty
dollars
for
two
to
four
units,
barely
covers
the
cost
of
opening
the
envelope
and
processing
the
check
or,
if
it's
a,
if
it's
an
electronic
payment
manually
going
into
the
system
and
documenting
that
you've
paid
that
rental
registration
fee
and
updating
the
information.
Nobody
in
the
history
of
rental
registration,
2008,
has
returned
a
registration
form
and
said:
I'm.
Sorry,
your
property.
Your
information
is
incomplete.
We've
taken
the
check
and
we've
moved
forward
with
the
information,
as
provided
I.
P
B
All
owners
of
a
corporation
and
the
principles
I
think
it
says
actually
that
the
owner
and
the
principals
be
named
of
the
LLC
and
I'm
wondering
just
because
that
is
important
in
terms
of
if
there
is
if
there
are
issues
that
go
beyond
a
single
property,
it's
helpful
if
it's,
if
it's
actually
related
to
the
same
owner
or
the
same
LLC,
it's
important
that
that
information,
so
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
it,
also
just
like
registration.
P
It
is
good
that
it's
in
there
I
just
don't
know
that
working
on
all
of
the
other
stuff
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
as
well,
not
with
the
staff
that
I
have
and
the
time
that
we
have
to
to
do
rental,
registration,
I'm,
just
being
honest
and
and
in
terms
of
of
citing
Property
Owners
we've
never
cited
a
property
owner
as
a
whole.
You
know
in
all
of
their
entities
right,
I've,
never
taken
Evanston
LLC
and
sent
a
notice
to
Evanston
LLC
regarding
all
three
of
their
properties.
P
It's
each
individual
property,
because
if
violations
are
assessed
and
we
have
to
place
a
lien,
it
goes
against
the
pin
number,
the
property
itself.
I,
don't
have
the
ability
to
divide
a
multi.
You
know
multi-property
Finding
of
liable
into
different
liens.
It
doesn't
work
that
way
in
the
system.
So
we
only
do
it
to
the
single
property.
So
we've
never
done.
You
know,
sent
a
notice
to
Evanston
LLC
about
all
of
their
properties.
P
It's
been
individual
properties
and
when
we
have
to
do
a
notice,
all
of
the
inspectors
know
how
to
find
the
manager
and
the
contact
information
for
an
LLC.
So
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
it
it.
You
know
it
takes
us
one
extra
step
when
we're
writing
a
ticket,
but
it's
easier
for
the
inspector
to
do
it
than
my
customer
service.
Do
it
and
send
back
notices
and
then
chase
people
down.
Q
D
A
B
Great,
so
it
is
6,
30
and
I
know.
You
know
this
was
noticed,
I've
been
from
five
to
six
thirty,
so
we
can
start
off.
I
will
say
the
at
the
beginning
at
the
at
the
top
of
our
meeting
with
the
three-person
discussion.
I
know,
that's
I
think
this
is
all
part
of
I
think
all
of
this
helps
the
situation.
So
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
moving
forward
with
strengthening
our
registration
process
and
looking
at
a
strengthening.
E
And
share
real,
quick
and
and
I
appreciate
you
starting
off
the
next
meeting
with
the
definition.
The
family
question,
with
the
other
working
group.
We've
now
talked
about
the
last
I
think
20
minutes,
15
minutes
about
three
recommendations
that
are
coming
out
of
that
record
group.
So
the
amnesty
is
coming
out
of
there,
the
the
gis
and
then
I
think
there
was
one
other
and
so
just
moving
forward.
E
B
E
Asked
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
it
is:
it
is
on
its
way
to
Planning
and
Development,
which
you're
a
member
of
and
so
I'm
saying.
Let's
not
waste
time
discuss,
we
just
discuss
things
that
are
on
their
way
to
Planning
and
Development,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
really
good
I
think
to
the
meat
of
the
discussion
which
we're
supposed
to
be.