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A
Hello,
my
name
is
Matt
berry.
This
is
my
wife
nan
berry.
We
live
at
1:17
Kedzie,
we
purchased
the
house
in
2009
and
I've
lived
there
ever
since
and
the
time
since,
being
there,
we've
had
two
children
and
they're
kind
of
quirky
layout
of
the
house
has
kind
of
pushed
us
to
the
limit
and
we're
looking
to
add
a
small
dorm
room
renovation
onto
the
back
with
the
mudroom
as
well.
A
A
This
is
a
map
of
obviously
Kedzie
Street
and
the
southern
end
of
the
lake
shore.
Historic
district.
The
red
area
is
our
property.
You
can
see.
We
are
right
on
the
fringe
of
a
kind
of
an
odd
area
in
the
lakeshore
historic
district,
where
there's
a
high
concentration
of
multi-story
apartment
dwellings
and
condominium
buildings,
most
of
them
3
to
4
storeys.
A
There
we
are
again,
our
house
is
actually
on
an
alley
which
is
shared
with
the
apartment
buildings
on
Michigan
Avenue
just
to
the
west.
This
creates
a
current
of
interesting
nexus
of
uses
and
activities.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
there,
a
lot
of
traffic
with
apartment
buildings
and
it's
sort
of
where
so
that
higher
density
graduates
down
to
a
lower
single-family
density
just
to
the
west
of
the
alley,
is
r5
and
where
r1.
A
There
you
can
see
that
Ali
looking
from
Qudsi
Street
to
the
north,
that's
the
building
immediately
to
our
West
Beverly
Castle,
so
it
kind
of
minion
building
and
you
can
see
the
new
utility
pole
installed
by
ComEd,
it's
heavily
trafficked.
You
know
a
lot
of
garbage
trucks
and
all
the
like
and
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
through
the
area.
This
is
a
shot
the
alley.
Looking
to
the
south.
You
can
see
the
concentration
of
three
and
four-story
buildings
to
the
west
of
our
house
and
then
the
larger
houses
to
the
east
of
our
house.
A
A
This
is
the
upstairs
layout
it
sort
of
has
two
large
bedrooms
and
then
the
other
rooms
there's
a
sleeping
porch
to
the
front,
which
is
tough
to
really
use
with
kids
and
to
have
privacy,
and
then
the
bedroom
to
the
top
is
really
small
and
the
ceiling
is
part
of
that
initial
gable
of
the
roof.
So
there's
really
that
dashed
line
running
north-south
is
where
the
roof
starts
to
protrude
down
into
the
room,
so
that
when
you
get
to
the
wall
on
the
right-hand
side,
the
ceiling
height
is
about
thirty
inches
over
there.
A
A
A
Upon
our
last
meeting,
it
was
suggested
that
I
look
at
other
precedents
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
did
some
research
and
kind
of
chased
out
people's
backyards.
Looking
for
specific,
overhangs
and
I
met
a
lot
of
my
neighbors,
so
the
beginning,
we
kind
of
start
south
of
our
property
in
the
blocks
of
Judson,
Forest
and
Michigan
kind
of
looking
for
similar
details
and
additions,
and
some
of
these
are
original
to
the
house.
A
My
wife
and
I
also
asked
our
immediate
neighbors.
If
they,
you
know
to
look
at
the
design
and
for
comments
and
to
get
their
approval
on
the
design.
So
we
were
able
to
get
all
of
our
immediate
neighbors,
including
the
owners
of
the
condominium
buildings
to
the
west.
So
we
have
everybody
in
that
r5
district
on
the
west
side
of
the
alley,
our
immediate
neighbor
and
around
the
horn,
all
the
way
onto
Sheridan
three
houses
down.
A
Also
I
did
take
the
heart.
Your
comments.
Last
time,
I
looked
at
some
possible
other
designs:
how
to
make
it
work.
What
I
could
do
staying
within
the
existing
footprint,
which
I
really
trust
me
I'd
like
to
do
that?
If
I
could
it's
it's
an
easier
thing
to
build,
but
unfortunately,
what
it
does
is.
It
involves
destroying
a
existing
bathroom
which
is
in
great
shape,
which
I
don't
really
want
to
do,
and
it
adds
cost
for
the
project.
So
this
this
would
be
one
idea.
A
It
gives
us
a
huge
vaulted
stairway
which
is
I,
don't
know
we're
just
not
interested
in
adding
space
to
the
house
that
we
can't
use
in
a
functional
manner
and
then
just
some
design
sketches.
So
I
really,
you
know
just
to
sort
of
show
evidence
of
the
studies
and
going
through
it
and
really
having
the
opportunity
to
be
there.
For
you
know
nine
years
now
and
live
it
live
with
the
house
and
kind
of
understand
its
quirks.
C
I
think
you've
heard
you
know.
Matt
cares
greatly
about
the
house.
We
care
greatly
about
the
neighborhood.
We
want
to
invest
back
in
the
neighborhood.
We
want
to
stay
there.
We
want.
You
know
we
love
our
schools,
we
love
Evanston,
so
I
think
just
being
able
to
reinvest
in
the
existing
house
that
we
live
in
is
huge
to
us
and
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
Matt.
C
If
he
underestimates
how
much
he's
worked
on
this
again,
we've
lived
there
nine
years
and
there's
not
been
a
day
that
he
hasn't
showed
me
a
sketch
of
what
this
could
look
like
and
we've
really
visited
every
possible
iteration,
so
I
think
it's
reflected
in
in
what
he
has
presented,
and
we
thank
you
for
the
consideration.
Thank.
D
A
Pretty
much
the
same
I
just
I
didn't
have
a
great
rendering
time
and
I
feel.
Sometimes
you
know,
as
we
all
know,
two-dimensional
drawings,
don't
really
act.
You
know
accurately
convey
a
three-dimensional
object
and
I
did
have
a
line
axonometric,
but
it
certainly
didn't
kind
of
go
to
the
length.
So
I
did.
B
E
C
F
E
H
H
H
H
H
H
G
E
I
I
I
D
H
I
can't
yeah
yeah
yeah.
The
only
thing
I
can
move
is
the
image
okay
there.
So
that's
the
so.
The
the
two-car
garage
of
the
garage
is
gonna
be
facing
the
front
because
again,
there's
no
alley,
so
the
axe
is
gonna,
be
from
the
front
from
the
street.
It's
gonna
have
a
side
door
on
the
east
side
with
a
single
door
and
then
like
a
roofed
entrance
with
two
windows
on
the
side
and
then
one
wind
on
the
back
and
then
one
wind
in
the
front
mimicking.
H
Again,
it's
gonna
be
a
two-car
garage
in
the
bottom
and
it's
gonna
be
unfinished
storage
space
on
the
top,
the
house,
the
original
house
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
storage.
That's
what
we
are
building
this.
So
then
there
is
a
little
more
storage
for
then
for
the
next
people
to
to
have
more
room
in
there.
H
D
D
D
H
Yeah
I'm.
Sorry,
if
we
forgot
to
put
the
dividers
as
a
double
okay,
yeah
they're
gonna
be
casement.
Okay,
that
was
they're
all
gonna,
be
they're.
All
gonna
be
double
honks.
E
B
K
K
B
I
B
B
K
Okay,
so
this
is
a
fairly
simple
project.
This
is
an
existing.
This
is
an
existing
sleeping-porch
that
has
screen
panels
on
it.
That's
constructed
over
heated
and
enclosed
kitchen
space
in
this
house.
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is
replace
the
existing
screen
panels
with
with
insulated
marvin
ultimate
casement
windows
to
infill
these
openings.
You
can
see
that
you
can
see
that
the
house
may
be
you.
Can
you
can
see
that
the
house
has
a
number
of
existing
bracket
details
on
the
exterior
we're
not
touching
anything
on
the
outside
shell
of
this
house.
K
We're
gonna,
remove
the
wood,
the
wood
screens,
who
would
frame
screens
and
construct
everything
from
the
inside.
If
you
look
at
the
at
the
drawing
that
we
sent
that
we
included
in
the
packet
and
also
the
one
I
just
gave
you,
you
can
see
that
we're
maintaining
these
brackets
and
we're
setting
the
casements
and
the
transom
is
behind
it.
K
The
reason
that
we've,
the
reason
we
continued
that
exterior
drawing
is
to
show
that
the
continuation
of
the
mulled
windows
and
the
mutton
based
windows
is
consistent
with
this
house.
All
the
finishes
on
the
upper
storey
of
the
home
are
dark
brown
windows.
You
can
see
the
frames
of
the
windows
here.
You
can
see
the
frames
here,
so
our
windows
will
be
pre
finished,
dark
brown
to
match
the
paint
on
the
house.
The
stucco
remains
as
it
is.
We
are.
K
K
Additionally,
we're
we're
proposing
three
modular
skylights
to
be
located
on
the
on
the
higher
upper
portion
of
that
roof,
which
is
up
here
and,
and
you
can
see
in
the
elevation
of
that
we
provided,
that
section
occurs
high
and
against
the
back
face
of
the
house,
and
these
are
low.
These
are
low
profiles.
These
are
low
profile,
fix,
skylights
they're,
not
operable.
B
G
I
G
Replace
the
existing
fixed
screen
panels
of
sleeping-porch
with
Marvin
ultimate
clad,
closed
casement
windows
and
installed
three
modular
skylights
over
the
existing
existing
sleeping
porch,
existing
asphalt,
membrane
roof
and
the
aluminum
gutters
will
be
replaced
with
a
buildup,
copper
sheet
membrane
and
copper
half
round
gutters,
and
these
are
applicable
standards,
alteration
1
through
5,
9
and
10.
Hey.
F
F
These
ideas
we
we
want
to
offset
the
electric
usage
with
solar
and
the
design
is
putting
the
panels.
You
can
see
that
this
is
the
overhead
view
of
the
of
the
house,
we're
putting
them
on
East
in
the
West
face
of
the
roof
and
where
those
circles
are
my
partner
made
diagram
showing
what
you,
what
you
would
be
able
to
see
from
those
different
vantage
points.
F
E
F
Just
east
of
the
home,
as
you
can
see,
the
roof
is
high
enough
that
somebody's
standing
on
the
sidewalk
is
not
actually
going
to
be
able
to
see
the
panels
that
are
on
the
roof
and
that's
the
CAD,
drawing
that
he
made
of
that
on
the
this
other
west
of
the
home.
You
can
see
the
roof
and
yeah
that
that's
the
one
vantage
point
where
you
would
see
the
panels
some
of
the
panels
on
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
roof.
F
F
F
B
B
F
B
F
D
B
J
F
F
F
F
They're
trying
to
offset
pretty
close
to
like,
in
other
words
the
goal,
if
you
have
enough
space
on
your
roof,
is
to
produce
as
much
but
not
more
kilowatt
hours
per
year.
As
you
use
for
comment,
I
mean
it's,
you
know,
they'll
be
using
ComEd
at
night
and
in
the
winter
time
and
they'll
be
producing
extra
during
the
summer
that
will
offset
their
usage
in
the
in
the
fall
in
the
winter.
That's
that's
the
basic.
F
F
D
I
move
that
we
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
114
Kedzie
for
the
installation
of
solar
voltaic
panels
on
the
east
and
west
roof
views
of
the
homes
with
the
modules
roughly
three
inches
thick
on
top
of
the
roof
plane
am
I.
Gonna
read
all
that
description
there
and
the
applicable
standards
are
alteration
are
for
alteration
one
through
five,
nine
and
ten
is.
J
L
Yeah,
you
know
so
this
is
at
12:18
Sheraton
Road.
It's
a
1901
earnest
mile
house,
our
client
Donna
well
to
apologize
that
she's
not
able
to
rearrange
her
schedule
so
she's
traveling
this
week
and
she
wasn't
able
to
make
it
but
she's
undergoing
multi-phased
renovation
of
the
house,
she's
looking
forward
to
moving
into
the
house
and
June
with
her
two
daughters
and
included
in
this
renovation.
The
house
being
built
in
1901
has
several
repairs
and
though
it's
been
very
well
maintained
and
carefully
renovated
over
the
years.
L
The
reason
why
we
think
it
was
probably
put
in
the
20s
is
because
it
was
installed
with
galvanized
valley
flashing
as
well
as
step
flashing,
and
now
that
the
flashing
is
approaching
90
years.
It's
failing,
unfortunately,
because
the
existing
slate
roof
is
installed
on
a
cedar.
Shingle
roof
were
unable
to
repair
it.
Additionally,
we're
unable
to
repair
the
flashing
so
she's
at
a
juncture
right
now,
where
she's
faced
with
replacing
the
entire
roof.
As
you
know,
I
think
this
is
actually
the
house
the
there
is
actually
in
the
back
of
the
house.
L
L
There
you
go
so
right
there,
and
then
this
area
too,
is
already
granulated
asphalt.
This
is
actually
what
we're
proposing.
I
have
three
bits:
I've
included
a
summary
included,
and
if
you'd
like
to
see
them,
we
can
show
them
to
you
it's
from
Hanson
roofing.
The
three
bids
were
to
replace
the
entire
roof
with
cedar
shingles,
which
I
think
was.
L
That,
when
the
roof,
when
slate
roof,
was
replaced
on
the
Civic
Center,
this
was
the
product
that
was
used
so
gives
you
an
idea.
In
order
to
install
the
slate
line
roof,
we
still
have
to
remove
the
entire
roof.
We
are
proposing
to
replace
the
flashing
with
LED
coated
copper,
so
that
would
be
all
the
valleys
all
the
step
flashing
we
do
have
to
reroute
the
roof
or
I'm
sorry
receive
the
roof,
and
then
addition
we'd
install
the
30-year
asphalt
shingles.
L
L
So
this
is
a
rendering
that
actually
shows
the
slate
line
roof
product
on
the
house.
So
it
gives
you
an
idea.
One
thing:
I
did
notice,
though
parking
the
car
today
that
on
the
Civic
Center,
one
thing
that
you
guys
have
done
or
architecting
proposed
was
using
some
of
the
slate
roof
details.
So
I
think
that's
actually
one
thing
that,
after
seeing
it
here
would
be
one
thing
to
consider:
you
guys
have
the
snow
guards
and
there's
also
some
other
of
additional
flashing.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we'd
obviously
be
willing
to
talk
about.
L
You
are
the
the
biggest
concern
for
Donna
Welch
was
that
it
was
only
going
to
be
recommended
for
an
18
to
20
year
use.
She
was
also
concerned
about
the
maintenance
of
a
cedar
roof
and
she
actually
preferred
the
kind
of
maintenance-free
aspect
of
the
asphalt
roof.
She
also
likes
the
look
of
the
simulated
slate
look
of
the
asphalt
shingle.
L
M
L
A
good
question:
let
me
double-check
on
the
bids.
Oh
you
know,
I've
also
brought
samples.
There
are
a
lot
there
if
you
guys,
are
interested
in
seeing,
but
as
everyone's
driven
up
and
down
Sheridan
Road.
There
are
several
examples
of
Tudor
houses
where
at
some
point
their
roof
has
been
replaced
with
asphalt,
including
the
Japanese
Consulate
across
the
street.
So
if
anyone
was
interested
in
seeing
those.
L
L
N
Mean
obviously
it
had.
This
slate
was
a
very
early
change,
but
I
guess
I
I
questioned
the
it's,
maybe
more
of
a
personal
preference,
but
I
just
find
the
asphalt
shingle
that
pretends
to
be
slate
with
kind
of
the
black
striping
and
shadow
lines.
I
always
find
that
very
disappointing
in
real
life,
when
you
see
it
and
very
unconvincing
as
a
substitute
material
for
slate
and
I
think
knowing
that
it
was
originally
a
cedar,
shingle
roof
I'd
much
prefer,
even
if
she
sticks
with
the
asphalt
shingle
to
go
with
one.
L
D
I
tend
to
agree,
I
think
that
it
bothers
me
that
you've
got
a
house
that
was
designed
one
way.
Somebody
made
a
decision,
let's
just
say
ninety
years
ago
or
whatever
right,
but
that
in
fact
we're
introducing
effectively
a
third
roof
without
asking
any
of
the
original
architects.
If
they
were
around
what
their
feeling
was
and
that
you
know
my
preference
would
have
been
the
cedar,
Sheriff
and,
and
ironically,
given
the
cost.
You
know
I
understand
the
long-term
notions,
but
it's
a
50.
It's
it's
a
lot.
What
is
it
30,000
less
or
something
like
that?
D
D
E
E
E
L
B
D
B
D
B
D
E
L
B
Or
pardon
me
I'm
sorry,
708,
Michigan,
Avenue.
O
Yeah
I'm
Donnelly,
floater,
architect
and
I'm
here,
representing
my
clients,
the
homeowners
of
708
Michigan.
They
weren't
able
to
be
here
tonight
so
they
allowed
me
to
represent
them,
I'm,
always
technologically
challenged
with
using
this
equipment
so
I'm
this
controls
moving
through
this
thing-
and
it's
just
this
is
a
pointer-
is
this.
Does
this
also
move
through.
O
All
right
here
we
go.
Oh
there's,
the
front
of
the
house
looks
like
it
was
taken
yesterday
with
our
snowstorm,
a
nice
little
brick
house
in
the
lakeshore
historic
district.
They
want
it
since
we're
looking
at
the
front
of
the
house,
one
of
the
things
we'd
like
to
do
a
quick
overview.
The
house
currently
only
has
two
bedrooms
and
one
shared
bath.
On
the
second
floor,
the
homeowners
would
like
to
have
three
baths
or
three
bedrooms
and
two
bathrooms
for
their
family.
O
So
extending
and
enlarging
dormers
on
the
second
floor
is
the
reason
that
we
are
proposing
this
work,
so
the
front
door
would
be
changed
per
the
drawing
that
you'll
see
here
in
a
bit.
I
wasn't
doing
the
wrong
thing
again,
that's
the
back,
so
there
are
two
little
shed
dormers
on
either
side
of
the
house
and
then
the
addition
below
is
a
frame
sided
addition
that
was
done
I'm
guessing
approximately
15
years
ago.
O
We
aren't
proposing
any
changes,
well
I'll,
get
to
that,
but
that's
staying
the
shape
that
it
is
the
best
we
can
get
on
the
side
best
we
get
to
the
other
side.
So
it's
somewhat
narrow
side
yards,
but
it
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
looking
at
here,
a
lot
of
survey.
We
have
gone
through
the
zoning
analysis,
there's
no
zoning
issues,
so
we've
gotten
a
certificate
of
zoning
approval
for
the
work
already.
O
O
Those
the
bulk
of
the
house
is
brick,
as
you
saw
in
the
photos,
the
dormers,
the
existing
little
dormers
are
stucco
and
we
would
be
doing
these
new
dormers
and
stucco
as
well.
That's
the
existing
rear.
This
is
the
proposed
one
thing
about
the.
Let
me
back
up
a
second
one
thing
we
want
to
do
on
the
first
floor.
Oh
it's
not
shown
as
existing
there's.
Actually
the
first
floor
in
that
lower
family
room
area
has
three
three
narrower
windows
and
the
homeowners
are
asking
to
have
the
one
made
larger
in
the
center.
O
Just
a
little
quick
floorplan
here
so
showing
that
we've
managed
to
fit
in
a
lot
in
and
not
much,
not
a
very
big
amount
of
space.
So
the
two
exist
there
were
two
existing
bedrooms
enough.
We
have
the
no
I,
don't
have
an
existing
floor
plan
but
anyway
we're
getting
a
master
with
a
master
bath,
two
bedrooms
with
a
bath
for
the
kids
and
a
little
laundry
and
in
closets
etcetera
for
the
family
to
use.
P
O
That
becomes
a
gable
dormer
mimicking
that
front
desta
meal
below
on
the
back,
there's
a
little
shed-dormer.
That's
where
that
shows
study
on
the
corner
of
the
master
bedroom.
That's
there's
not
a
wall
between
those
spaces
now,
but
that's
one
of
the
little
dormers
and
then,
where
we're
showing
bedroom
3,
that's
the
other
little
dormer,
so
we're
just
connecting
that
across
the
back
to
get
to
enable
the
three
bedrooms
more
closets,
the
laundry
etc.
O
O
O
D
D
D
To
be
brick,
I'm
just
wondering
whether
that
angle
would
help
and
there's
a
little
more
trim
on
that.
It's
it's
also.
You've
got
that
trim
right
above
the
the
door
in
the
window
on
the
ground
floor
and
there's
none
of
that
that's
been
carried
through.
On
the
other
hand,
you're
not
seeing
it
on
the
rest
of
the
house,
but
I
think
it's
that
window.
D
D
O
O
D
O
B
E
B
O
B
E
E
O
N
N
D
Q
O
D
E
E
D
D
B
N
O
N
D
D
N
C
D
B
D
I
B
I
I
D
I
To
make
a
suggestion
sure,
so
why
don't
you
make
a
motion
to
approve,
with
the
submitted
with
the
suggestion,
either
to
pique
the
shed
or
the
gable
subject
to
the
comments
from
more
than
three
commissioners
with
a
majority
to
agree
one
way
or
the
other,
so
you're
approving
the
concept,
the
design?
All
that
little
you
just
not
sure
about
which
one
is
better.
Well,
we're
really
not
approving
the
design,
though,
well
that
when
the
motion
would
be
that
to
do
that,
we.
D
E
B
B
B
D
D
O
D
For
the
let's
say,
the
rebuilding
and
enlarging
the
shed
dormers
rear,
with
gable
shed
combination,
roof
to
allow
the
construction
of
the
bedrooms
and
baths
at
the
rear
and
with
the
provision
that,
for
the
French
front,
dormer
would
either
be
a
gable
or
a
shed-dormer
enlarged
to
accommodate
the
master
bath.
Subject
to
review
by
two
of
the
commissioners,
three
I'm
sorry
up,
no
no
more
than
three
yeah
is.
J
D
E
B
B
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
house
is
on
Judson,
this
is
a
view
from
Judson
and
you
really
don't
see
the
porch
of
the
current
deck
porch
to
be
from
this
view,
and
this
is
the
other
side
of
the
front
of
the
house,
and
you
might
barely
see
it
from
this
view.
You
can
see
that
wonderful
tree,
that's
back
there,
which
is
right
up
kind
of
against
the
deck
very
close
to
the
upper-level
deck.
That's
there,
so
you
would
see
a
little
bit
of
it
from
this
view.
Q
This
is
from
late
Street,
sidewalk
kind
of
looking
over
the
neighbors
fence,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
see
that
one
story
and
the
shape
of
the
roof
line.
So
you
would
see
it
a
bit
from
here,
and
this
is
from
the
alley.
So
again
you
see
that
tree
and
you're,
just
sort
of
you
know
looking
over
a
lot
but
you'd
probably
catch
a
glimpse
of
it
here
as
well,
and
here
so
that's
all
from
the
alley.
So
this
is
the
current
back
of
the
house
and
there's
a
lot
going
on.
Q
That's
all
the
original
part
of
the
house
and
then
there's
a
dish.
One
story
that
that's
older
too,
but
this
is
an
addition
that
was
done
80s
and
this
as
well
so
yeah,
that's
all
existing
and
it's
kind
of
dark,
but
you
can
see
the
existing
deck
here.
You
walk
out
there
and
there's
an
upper
level
and
a
lower
level
and
some
steps
that
way
and
some
steps
this
way
so
that
you
kind
of
get
a
little
better
view
of
the
deck.
So
that's
everything
that's
going
on
on
the
back
of
the
house.
Q
That's
the
existing
deck,
and
so
here
are
the
drawings.
You
can
see
the
plan
of
the
upper
upper
level
when
you
walk
out,
and
this
is
their.
This
is
a
that.
You
think
this
is
kind
of
a
little
family
room
and
they
really
want
this
to
kind
of
be
an
extension
of
that
so
and
here's
the
yeah
like
that's
my
back-
and
this
is
for
to
that-
and
this
is
forward
of
that
there's
the
plot
plan.
Q
Q
Q
What
what
happened
to
this
house
over
the
years
and
here
so
this
is
what
it
becomes
with
the
new
porch
and
like
kind
of
picking
up
that
line,
and
here
this
is
from
the
north,
because
of
that
little
one-story,
flat,
roof,
mudroom
entry,
you
don't
and
the
the
one-story
additions
coming
out.
You
don't
really
see
that
other
three-story
addition
behind,
but
here
that's
and
here
you
see
some
of
the
new
porch
sort
of
peeking
out
again.
Q
Q
This
addition
that's
already
there
so
and
here
you
can
kind
of
see
how
the
they
had
some
huge,
icicles
and
stuff
when
we
had
that
that
bad
storm,
you
know
here
again,
there's
a
lot
going
on
here,
so
to
keep
the
roof
line
so
that
you
know
drainage
is
fairly
straightforward
was
a
key
part
of
this.
So
that's
all
that's
going
on
at
1431,
jetson,
currently
and
hopefully,
with
their
screen.
Porch
I,
don't
know
any
questions.
D
D
Q
Q
N
Q
Some
pretty
horrendous,
aluminum
siding
I
thought
well
actually
I.
Remember
the
house
from
these,
but
anyway
that
it
was
sided
with
aluminum
and
and
so
it's
in
a
wonderful
that
wonderful,
narrow,
lap,
siding
here
and
so
yeah
like
to
stay
at
the
coroner
board
and
also
the
window
start
up
pretty
quick.
So
it
makes
sense
to
stay
in
line
yeah.
E
D
J
Move
we
issue
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
appropriateness
for
1431
Johnson,
for
the
construction
of
a
new
one
story
was
screened
in
porch
at
the
existing
open
deck
structure
at
the
rear
of
the
house
and
that's
in
accordance
with
applicable,
Cena's,
four
alteration,
one
through
five
and
eight
through
ten
and
for
a
construction,
1,
3,
5,
8,
10,
12
and
15,
so
that
we
then
separate
the
zone
right.
Okay
is.
B
J
I'll
move.
We
issue
a
14
31
Johnson.
We
issue
a
recommendation
for
approval
of
a
minor
zoning
variation
for
to
change
the
interior
side,
setback
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
from
five
feet
to
three
point:
seven
feet
in
line
with
the
existing
home
and
deck
in
it,
its
zoning
variations,
a
and
C
okay.
F
B
D
E
P
So
this
is
a
renovation
to
the
Halil
hice
house,
the
Souris
Northwestern
University,
sorry
Mike,
Shively
I'm,
the
architect
building
was
built
in
the
1990s
and
as
a
non
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district
there
we
were
largely
charged
with
an
interior
renovation.
The
building
when
it
was
built
in
the
90s
just
times,
have
changed
in
terms
of
technology
and
function.
There's
a
lot
of
small
offices,
for
example,
there's
also
two
kitchens
to
serve
the
functions
there.
P
They
don't
actually
prepare
any
food
there,
so
we're
using
the
opportunity
inside
the
building
to
clear
out
a
lot
of
those
small
spaces
and
make
it
much
more
flexible
and
workable
to
the
way
students
use
the
building.
Now,
as
we
went
through
that
process,
we
advocated
for
additionally
bringing
some
additional
natural
light
into
the
building,
we're
going
to
move
the
study
spaces
more
to
the
front,
and
we
just
like
the
opportunity
to
introduce
more
light
into
the
building.
I
can
show
you
I'm
gonna
skip
ahead
and
I'll
go
back
on
the
left.
P
You'll
see
the
existing
elevation
for
whatever
reason
the
windows
were
built
quite
squatty
in
the
90s
I.
Don't
know
if
that
was
a
budget
consideration
or
what,
but
it
does
contribute
to
the
very
dark
spaces
inside
you
can
see
on
the
elevation
on
the
Left,
which
is
existing
front
door,
is
quite
squat.
P
It
has
a
large
limestone
cap
above
it
to
the
right
that
is
an
existing
study
space
where
the
window
heads
are
probably
about
six
foot,
eight
and
then
in
the
second
floor,
there's
a
sort
of
signature,
90s
windows
in
the
study
space
above
the
front
door
and
to
the
right.
Those
are
some
private
offices
that
again
have
quite
low
window
heads
so
starting
with
the
right
side
of
the
building.
P
If
you
look
at
the
proposed
elevation,
we're
proposing
using
an
existing
two
high
roll,
lock
or
a
soldier
course
band
of
brick
as
a
datum
line
to
introduce
some
transom
windows
above
those
existing
windows
and
doing
the
same
on
the
second
floor,
aligning
to
a
row
lock
of
brick
plus
the
trim,
that's
above
it
to
introduce
a
transom
line
above
those
double
windows,
then
for
the
main
study
space.
That's
on
the
second
floor
and
I
go
to
our
rendering
to
better
illustrate
this.
P
So,
consequently,
we
we've
gotten
the
approval
of
the
zoning.
There's
no
sort
of
change
to
it.
We're
just
here
tonight
to
hopefully
get
your
approval.
In
addition
to
meeting
with
you,
we
did
hold
a
neighbor
meeting
last
week
actually
two
weeks
ago
to
make
sure
that
everyone
in
the
area
was
sort
of
on
board
and
felt
you
know
part
of
the
process,
there's
actually
only
one
home
on
this
street.
That
is
still
a
private
home.
That
is.
P
Not
solving
that
one,
so
this
is
the
proposed
first
floor
plan
the
front
of
the
buildings
to
the
right
of
the
drawing.
So
you
can
see
we're
creating
vestibule
for
security
for
the
building
the
greeter.
That's
there
we'll
be
able
to
see
someone
coming
in
and
buzz
them
through
that
second
airlock
door,
and
then
the
rest
of
the
majority
of
the
front
of
the
first
floor
is
an
open
and
study
space.
P
That
is
really
quite
dark
right
now,
so
that
will
be
greatly
benefited
by
adding
the
transom
windows
along
the
front
of
the
building
and
on
the
second
floor
yeah,
it's
a
large
study
space.
There's
gonna
be
let's
see
between
this
space
and
this
space.
These
are
some
glass
walls
just
for
sound.
If
there
is
more
of
a
you
know,
rowdy
study
group
going
on
here.
Someone
can
still
sort
of
come
in
here
and
get
a
quiet
moment,
but
the
addition
of
all
that
glass
along
the
facade
here
will
really
come
into
the
building.
D
P
D
Been
in
that
building
a
lot
so
I've
never
had
that
experience
that
you're
describing
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
been
in
that
building,
but
I've
gone
in
there
a
number
of
times
so
I've
never
felt
anything
about
that
and
I
guess.
One
of
the
problems
I
have
with
what
you've
done
now
is
that
it's
really
taken
away
from
what
might
have
been,
even
if
it's
hard
to
believe
a
residential
scale,
which
was
that
first
floor.
D
I
realize
that
across
the
street
is
north
western
and
probably
all
the
neighbors
that
you
talk
to
our
North
Western,
but
they're
all
residential
buildings
other
than
the
parking
lot
directly
across
the
street,
and
so
to
some
extent
you
know
the
residential
character
is
still.
This
building
is
much
more
residential,
the
old
one
than
anything
that
I'm,
seeing
there
on
the
right
that
entrance
that
band
of
stone
running
all
the
way
around
the
sort
of
a
strange
way
to
use
what
I
consider
to
be
a
bearing
material
with
a
lot
of
glass.
J
I
think
what
I'm
struggling
with
is
the
the
existing
structure.
Well,
it's
a
new
structure
is
clearly
meant
to
I'd,
say
fit
with
residence
or
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
I
guess.
Yeah
I
mean
it's.
The
the
question
is
I
mean
you
know,
although
it
the
question
is:
is
it
should
we
be
looking
at
whether
it
should
continue
to
match
the
residential
care
to
the
neighborhood,
or
is
this
more
viewed
as
kind
of
part
of
that
northwestern
campus
with
modern
buildings
behind
it
and
I?
Think
it's
a
tough
issue.
B
Man
is
but
yeah.
The
context
is
slightly
different
than
the
previous
case
that
we
looked
at,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
it's
still
you
know
there
is
the
black
in
the
house
with
the
shutters
that's
across
the
street.
The
parking
lot
is
there
and
I
assume
that's
the
resident
that
you
were
speaking
of
earlier,
and
you
know
even
some
of
the
uses
that
are
I,
guess
more
proximate
to
the
university
or
lower
scale
there.
J
It
is
a
new
house,
I
mean
the
test,
isn't
whether
the
modifications
themselves
change
this
auric
structure.
You
know
that
the
the
test
is
still
whether
the
house
is
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it's
a
big
change,
I
mean
I,
think
the
building.
That's
there
now
really
resonates.
I
mean
it
looks.
Even
if
you,
if
you
just
look
quickly,
it
looks
a
lot
like
an
older
building.
That's
consistent
with
a
lot
of
the
other
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
and
I.
J
P
A
very
challenging
street
because
it
gets
kind
of
brillier
round
there,
there's
a
horrific
gym
two
doors
down
that
has
no
character
whatsoever
to
the
east
and
of
course
we
have
the
dormitory
across
the
street.
That
is,
is
not
low
scale,
so
yeah
as
an
architect,
it
is
a
challenging
Street
to
sort
of
find
cohesiveness
in
I
think
what
we
were
really
trying
to
achieve
is
just
making
it
a
much
more
handsome
building.
It
is
very
blunt
right
now,
at
least
was
the
feedback
of
everyone
that
that
works
there
I.
N
Guess
my
failing
is
much
the
same.
I
think
the
they
clearly
went
out
of
their
way
to
design
something
that
would
fit
with,
knowing
that
it's
in
the
district
that
would
fit
in
with
the
kind
of
single-family
residential
scale
of
the
district
as
a
whole
and
that's
been
lost
in
the
proposed
change.
I
mean
I.
Think
no
one's
gonna
say
that
you
have
to
follow
the
original
design,
it's
more
with.
N
D
And
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
bothers
me
as
I
look
at
it
is
that
there
is
a
lot
more
I
hate
to
say,
elegant
detailing,
although
all
that
a
stone
above
the
windows
and
all
of
that
you
know
carried
across
and
all
of
that's
gone
now,
I
mean
you've
kind
of
gotten.
Rid
of
anything
that
might
have
had,
you
know,
might
have
at
least
borrowed
from
some
of
the
character
of
the
older
buildings.
On
that
campus
or
down
the
block.
Not
not
the
you
know,
not
the
Victorian,
wood
houses
and
it's
been
stripped.
D
I
mean
you've
stripped
every
bit
of
detail.
Out
of
it
and
just
put
a
you
know
what
could
have
been
a
curtain
wall
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
Marvin
windows,
I,
don't
know
what
that
that
main
entrance
is,
but
it
just
looks
like
a
big
aluminum
curtain
wall.
You
know,
and
those
could
be
revolving
doors
at
the
middle,
because
it's
just
it's
sort
of
a
shopping
mall
entry
and
that's
not
what
was
there
before
before.
You
could
see
the
doors
you
could
get
the
scale
of
the
doors
you
got.
P
So
what
I
would
ask
from
you
is
what
specific
feedback
you
would
have,
maybe
if
we
could
sort
of
break
it
in
half
I
do
believe
on
the
right
side.
It
is
definitely
a
primary
objective
to
get
more
light
into
those
spaces
and
personally
I
feel
like
the
transoms,
are
a
really
elegant
solution
to
that
and
that
we're
aligning
with
the
brick
details
on
the
building.
Obviously
having
transom
windows
is
a
very
residential
sort
of
quality,
so
I
would
appreciate
any
feedback
you
have
on
that
and
then
on
the
main
entrance,
really
any
any
feedback.
D
Just
it's:
it's
the
lintel
there
just
isn't
a
lintel
anymore,
honey
and
here's
a
question
for
you:
you're
raising
that
window,
mm-hmm
and
I
guess
you're
getting
rid
of
the
stone
and
saying
I'm
gonna.
Just
kick
this
window
all
the
way
up
to
the
ceiling
mm-hmm.
What
are
you
doing
around
the
corner
because
there's
windows
in
that
room
on
the
east
side,
yeah
we're
good
at
those
were
I-
mean
we're
not
even
seeing
that
elevation.
We're.
D
B
E
E
A
N
And
kind
of
tie
that
in
mm-hmm
and
I
think
you
can,
you
can
certainly
have
larger
openings,
but
I'd
encourage
you
to
look
at.
How
can
you
introduce
some
of
that
finer
grain
detail
so
that
it
isn't
just
the
opening
gets
enlarged
to
whatever
it
wants
to
be,
and
it
just
collides
with
the
running
bond
brick
and
has
no
detailing
whatsoever
around
the
opening
anymore
and.
B
P
B
B
G
B
Okay
and
then
in
terms
we're
gonna,
take
a
look
at
the
rules
and
procedures
tonight
in
talking
with
Scott
at
the
start
of
the
meeting.
There's
some
changes
that
we
need
to
circulate
a
clean
copy
of
this,
that's
completely
updated
to
everyone
for
their
review.
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
get
that
out
to
you
in
the
next
few
days,
so
you
can
review
it.
D
E
B
D
D
I
I
My
concern
was
that
if
we
were
to
do
that
and
you're
gonna
make
revisions
based
on
the
ordinance,
we
want
to
have
the
latest
version
of
that
I
mean.
If
you
want
to
see
it,
I
can
send
you
the
link,
you
can
open
it,
but
it's
the
same
version
that
you
submitted
the
different
links
to
different
yeah
they're
documents.
I
B
I
Yes,
so
we
have
received
a
record
number
of
nominations,
total
of
26.
However,
we
don't
have
them
capacity
to
review
all
of
them
in
one
day
or
even
the
way
we
plan
it.
Usually
we
get
anywhere
between
10
to
15
tops,
so
some
of
the
projects
I
will
suggest.
Particularly
you
know.
Western
submitted
12
nominations
that
they
could
maybe
breaking
it
down
so
that
the
all
these
projects
can
be
part
of
that,
maybe
a
group
of
four
for
this
year
and
then
the
other
eight
sent
me.
I
So
we
do
have
that
number.
We
did
a
good
job,
I
think
spreading
the
word
through
different
sources.
So
that's
why
we
have
this
record
number
of
nominations.
The
jury
will
be
out,
look
out
for
the
tours
and
April
19,
which
is
a
Thursday,
and
we
also
planned
to
have
the
reception
and
award
ceremony
on
April
26.
Also
a
Thursday
I
believe
at
least
half
of
the
commissioners
have
confirmed
their
attendance.
I
We
made
efforts
to
bring
to
the
attention
of
the
mayor
that
day,
but
he
is
out
of
town.
So
on
April
12
we
have
scheduled
an
interview
with
him
so
that
he
will
have
a
welcoming
message
to
the
attendants
of
the
reception
in
the
awards
ceremony
and
we
will
start
at
6:30
p.m.
and
about
7:00
p.m.
we'll
have
the
awards.
I
The
idea
is
that
both
the
site
visits
and
the
words
will
be
recorded
so
that
Anderson
who's,
the
videographer
for
the
city
can
prepare
a
video
for
the
council
made
21st
I
believe
is
the
date
to
be
display
at
the
council,
and
we
have
a
limitation
of
5
minutes
for
the
video.
So
we
plan
to
cram
a
lot
of
information
and
Mountain.
I
Also
jamie
has
volunteered
to
have
a
new
design
for
the
sign
and
maybe
for
the
certificates.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
open
the
email
that
she
sent
me
today
at
some
point,
but
I'd
like
to
you
know,
work
with
her
continue
and
I
appreciate
the
time
that
you
spend
on
it.
So
we're
trying
to
do
things
differently
and
hopefully,
better.