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A
22Nd
meeting
of
the
referrals
committee
shall
come
to
order
and
we
will
begin
by
asking
the
chair
to
take
the
role
council,
member
revell.
B
A
And
I
don't
know
how
to
do
this,
but
I'm
here
as
well,
so
with
three
members
present,
we
have
a
quorum
and
are
prepared
to
do
our
work.
Our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
comment.
Is
there
anyone
any
member
of
the
public
seeking
to
give
comment,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
our
agenda
before
we
get
to
item
four,
which
is
the
purpose
of
this
meeting,
which
is
to
say
the
review
and
scheduling
of
referrals?
A
I
just
want
to
do
a
quick
recap
from
our
previous
meeting
council
member
revell,
followed
up
as
we
had
asked
her
to
by
sending
an
updated
rubric.
Let's
say:
we'd
talked
last
week
about
having
an
agenda
item
where
we
would
vote
to
send
that
to
the
whole
city
council.
In
fact,
it's
not
necessary
for
us
to
take
a
vote
as
long
as
everyone
on
this
committee
is
in
agreement
that
that
draft
is
is
ready
to
be
sent
to
the
full
rules.
Committee.
Is
everyone
comfortable
with
that?
A
Yes,
okay?
Additionally,
we
received.
A
A
referral
form
from
from
staff
that
is
that
is,
I
now
believe,
been
tested
that
if
someone
fills
it
out,
we
got
an
email
and
I
believe
the
clear
cuts,
an
email
as
well.
So
I
would.
I
would
suggest
that,
if
everyone's
comfortable,
that
I
should
one
of
us
should
also
send
that
form
to
the
whole
the
whole
council
to
make
them
aware
of
it
to
demonstrate
that
that
is
now
the
way
that
referrals
are
made
and
to
see
if
they
have
any
concerns
everyone.
Okay
with
that.
A
Okay,
that's
a
good!
I
didn't.
I
sometimes
don't
know
notice.
Who
else
is
copied
on
the
emails
I
received
but
good
point.
Thank
you.
The
the
last
loose
end
from
last
week,
as
we
talked
about
needing
to
kind
of
add
some
columns
to
this
tracker
document.
I
have.
A
I
have
treated
this
tracker
document
like
it's
some
kind
of
very
brittle,
delicate,
ancient
work
of
art
that,
if
I
touch
it
something
terrible
will
happen
are
folks
comfortable
with
me
just
adding
the
two
columns
we
discussed
to
the
tracker
so
that
we
can
begin
to
potentially
fill
them
out
during
the
course
of
our
work
today.
A
I
can
actually
even
number
the
columns.
Our
committee's
work
is
to
populate
column
f,
which
is
the
the
which
is
the
name
of
the
committee
that
that
something
would
go
to
and
then
to
populate
column.
The
new
columns
h
and
I
which
have
a
score
and
a
recommended
timeline.
A
So
I've
now
done
that
and
no
lightning
came
down
from
the
sky,
so
I
think
we're
in
good
shape,
and
so
so
I
think
that
cleans
up
all
the
loose
ends
from
last
time
required
for
us
to
be
ready
to
go
into
item
four,
which
is
the
review
and
scheduling
of
referrals.
Does
anyone
have
anything
else
they
want
to
discuss
before
we
get
to
item
four
council
member
revel.
B
So
for
the
timeline
do
do
we
have
sort
of
an
idea?
Last,
as
I
recall
last
meeting,
you
were
saying
60
days
or
I
don't
know
so,
do
we
want
to
have
I
mean,
for
example,
if
we
thought
something
was
it
got
a
good
score
and
should
be
was
ready
to
go
and
we
would
say
it
would
we'd
like
to
see
it
on
an
agenda
within
30
days
and
then
a
little
bit
less
pressing
60
days
or
do
we
have
an
idea
of
what
we
mean
by
timeline
yeah.
A
I
mean
my
bias
here,
which
is
pretty
strongly
held.
Is
the
simpler
the
better
okay,
like
you
know,
maybe
now
you
know
like
now
or
not
now,
or
immediately
or
soon,
or
you
know
immediately
or
soon,
but
not
immediately
or
later.
You
know,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
needs
to
be
the
right
answer,
but
I
think
I
think
the
more
simplicity,
the
fewer
options
we
give
ourselves.
I
think,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
short
answer
rather
than
a
multiple
choice,
then
we're
gonna.
C
We
also
don't
know,
what's
already
on
the
pending
calendars
and
then
to
your
point
the
other
day
is
we
don't
know
what's
coming
in
from
the
committees,
so
if
we
think
something
can
go
now,
maybe
it
can.
But
aside
from
bill's
list
and
a
couple
regular
things,
I
don't
know
what
else
the
city
manager
is
putting
on
the
calendar
and
we
probably
need
to
have
a
way
to
see
what
that
is
without
having.
A
Right,
I
would
I'm
happy
to
do
this
anyway,
but
my
instinct
is
maybe
we
start
and
go
through
the
list,
and
I
think
I
think
this
conversation
will
be
more
useful
when
we're
doing
it
than
when
we're
talking
it.
Talking
about
in
theory,
is
that,
okay,
with
both
you
yeah
okay,
so
I
I
I
think.
As
I
see
it,
we
have
three
types
of
work
to
do
that
I
think
come
in
chronological
order.
The
first
is
there's
just
a
couple
items
on
the
list
that
don't
have
a
committee
at
all.
A
In
other
words,
column,
f
is
vacant,
a
couple
near
the
bottom
that
are
from
council
member
council
members,
reed
and
fleming,
and
then
one
in
the
middle,
which
is
from
council
member
burns
in
row
28..
So
I
would
say
we
should
maybe
begin
by
doing
that
and
then
and
then
we
can
begin
to
work
on
scoring.
C
All
right,
can
you
just
name
what
the
maybe
title
is
as
we're
going
through,
because
I
don't
have
the
number.
A
Yeah
so
the
first
one
is
hwe,
which
is
healthy,
workforce
environment
policy
from
council
member
burns.
C
C
It
is
scheduled
to
be
again
because
he
had
made
this
referral
back
in
may.
It
obviously
is
a
big
piece
of
our
beach
discussion,
and
so
there
was
a
conversation
about
getting
that
one
on
the
calendar
like
right
now:
okay,
so.
A
C
A
C
A
So,
council,
member
fleming
moves
that
the
healthy
workplace
environment
policy
referral
be
sent
to
the
human
services
committee
for
consideration
immediately
council
member
revell
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
council
member
revell,
aye
councilmember
flevin?
I
vote
I
on
a
three
to
zero
vote.
The
motion
passes
and
I'm
going
to
implement
it
live
so
I
click
on
human
services
in
the
in
column,
f
and
recommended
timeline.
C
A
August,
2nd,
2021,
okay,
okay,
so
that
brings
us
now
to
there
are
two
items
on
this
spreadsheet
right
next
to
each
other,
from
council
member
reed
that
look
like
they're
both
regarding
the
vote
threshold
regarding
changes
in
the
office
of
city
manager.
A
A
seven
vote
threshold
and
the
other
says,
referral
to
change
the
threshold
for
hiring
and
firing
the
city
manager
to
six
votes
of
the
corporate
says
corporate
free,
but
I
assume
it
means
corporate
body,
so
I
think
the
first
one,
I'm
not
understanding
fully
the
second
one.
I
think
we
understand
what
it
means.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
the
second
one
probably
should
go
to
the
rules
committee.
A
Does
that
seem
right?
Yes,.
C
A
A
C
A
Council
member
fleming
makes
the
motion
that
the
referral
in
row
41
of
the
spreadsheet
regarding
the
threshold
for
hiring
fire
the
city
manager,
go
to
the
rules
committee
council,
member
revell
seconds.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
council
member
rebel.
A
Fleming
hi,
I
vote
I
on
a
three
to
three
to
zero
vote.
This
goes
to
the
rules
committee
and
I
the
spreadsheet,
is
the
drop
downs
are
broken
here,
so
I'm
gonna
write
it
down,
but
also
put
some
punctuation
marks
to
make
sure
that
we
fix
the
drop
downs
and-
and
I
will
also
make
a
note
to
ask
council
member
reed
about
the
other
referral.
A
Okay,
and
that
brings
us
to
council
member
fleming's.
Most
recent
referral
from
I
believe
this
morning,
even.
A
C
C
Yeah,
I
thought
about
that
too.
We
probably
should
I
didn't
know
where
that
came
from.
So
we
probably
should
make
sure
that
when
we
get
that
that
column
is
empty,
imagine
staff
is
used
to
populating
that
and
the
one
yes
that
I
made
this
morning
actually
had
been
made
to
the
council
chair
some
time
ago
before
we
were
using
the
system.
So
I
made
sure
this
morning
to
get
it
on
here.
A
A
A
Any
discussion
council
member
rappel,
aye
councilmember
fleming
hi-
I
have
an
eye
on
a
on
a
3-0
vote.
This
item
is
also
sent
to
planning
and
development.
A
A
I
think
the
ones
that
already
have
something
filled
in
in
the
column
that
says
scheduled
agenda
date
are
kind
of
out
our
hands
already
and
those
that
don't
are
the
ones
that
that
we
need
to
score
is
that
everyone
feel
okay
about
that
plan.
Okay,
so
I'm
comfortable
just
going
through
this
and
starting
the
first
one
is
mine,
I'm
afraid,
but
don't
worry,
that's
the
last
one
that
is,
that
is
mine,
so
so
this
is
options
to
make
downtown
evanston
more
walkable.
A
Does
anybody
want
to
and
remember
for
the
audience,
there's
five
assessment
criteria,
time,
sensitivity,
scope,
connection
to
existing
policy,
community
interest
and
goals?
Alignment
with
goals
and
priorities
and
each
one
will
be
given
a
score
between
one
and
three,
where
the
initiator
was
hoping
for
a
low
number,
not
a
high
number.
A
So
does
anybody
wanna
speak
to
what
you
what
you
all
think
about
how
to
score
this?
One.
C
I
gave
this
one
an
eight.
It
was
like
we're
on
american
bandstand
or
that
other
show.
So
for
time
sensitivity.
I
had
it
as
a
three.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
how
much
we're
going
to
go
into
detail
here
for
a
scope,
I
had
a
two
so
kind
of
in
the
middle
existing
policy
connection.
I
have
it
as
a
one
community
interests,
I
have
it
as
a
one
and
then
goals
and
priority.
I
have
it
as
a
two.
C
I
will
say
goals
and
priority
were
a
little
bit
difficult,
since
this
council
has
not
set
goals
and
priorities.
So
I
guess
I'm
thinking
about
our
previous
council,
but
that's
something
that
I
you
know
hopefully
we'll
get
to
soon.
B
Well,
I
I
did
have
a
total
of
nine
as
well,
and
I
I
agree
with
council
member
fleming
about
the
time
sensitivity.
It's
not
not
super
time
sensitive,
a
two
first,
you
know
demand
on
staff
resources.
B
I
gave
it
a
one
for
existing
policy
because
we
do
address
walkability
and
all
those
good
things
I
for
the
for
community
interest.
I
mean
I,
I
thought
this
might
be
something
that
we
address
as
we're
doing
our
comprehensive
general
plan
or
our
our.
B
Strategic
plan,
and-
and
it
will
benefit
from-
I
thought
some
community
engagement
to
get
the
community's
ideas
about
what
they
thought
would
help
make
the
downtown
more
walkable.
So
I
gave
that
a
score
either
a
two
or
a
three,
but
I
did.
I
gave
it
a
one
for
the
goals
and
priorities
because
I
do
think
it's
very
key
to
our
carp
goals,
but
I
I
ended
up
with
the
same
total
that
council
member
fleming
did.
A
Yeah
I
mean
in
in
so
you
guys
agree
in
columns
one
two
and
three.
So
let's
not
even
talk
about
that
on
community
interest,
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with
council
member
rebel.
I
mean
we
are
both
on
the
receiving
end
of
some
emails
regarding
the
shared
streets
program
that
I
think
make
us
cognizant
of
the
danger
of
doing
the
stuff
without
community
adequate
community
input.
A
So
I
would
I
would
reluctantly,
but
but
but
respectfully
suggest
that
we
go
with
the
two
there
rather
than
a
one,
and
then
I
don't
I
mean
I'm
happy
I
mean
I
don't
know
councilmember
fleming,
if
you're,
if
you
want
to
accept
the
flip
on
those
last
two,
so
that
the
total
winds
up
being
what
your
total
was
and
we
have
it
as
three
two
one,
two
one
and.
A
The
thought
is,
we
have
to
decide.
Ultimately,
I
think
we
I
would
suggest
that
we
want
to
report,
not
one
number
but
five
numbers
adding
up
to
one
number
that
we've
that
we
can
at
least
you
know
necessary,
pass
with
a
two
to
one
vote.
It's
obviously
not
an
exact
science
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think,
ultimately
we're
going
to
want
to
pick
a
number
and
move
on.
C
A
So
the
the
issue,
the
community
interest,
one-
is
kind
of
confusing,
because
you
an
issue
seems
like
it's
important:
if
people
really
care
about
it,
but
actually
that's
a
reason
to
slow
it
down
to
make
sure
you
have
time
to
get
input.
So
if
you
think
people
are
super
interested,
that's
good,
but
it
also
means
we
want
to
give
time
for
real
discussion.
So.
A
B
B
C
That's
why
I
gave
it
a
one,
but
that's
actually
a
three
yeah.
It's
a
three,
oh
yeah,
all
right,
so
some
of
my
scoring
here
might
be
incorrect.
B
B
B
Yeah,
because
what
it
means
to
me
is
if
there's
a
there's
going
to
be,
if,
if
something's
high
on
community
engagement,
let's
say
it
would
come
to
a
committee
meeting
first,
then
the
committee
would
say:
oh,
this
is
really
great.
We
need
to
engage
the
community,
then
we'd
engage
the
community
and
it
would
basically
end
up
entailing
multiple
committee
meetings,
maybe
and
staff
resources
etc.
So
that's
why
it
gets
a
big
number.
C
B
A
A
C
Whether
it
gets
community
engagement
as
a
positive
or
negative,
it
still
kind
of
has
the
same
impact.
If
it's
a
positive,
we
still
want
to
hear
what
the
positive
feedback
is
and
make
sure
we
incorporate
that
if
it's
negative,
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
going
too
fast
and
we
incorporate
the
negative
it.
Just
my
brain
read
the
score
in
a
little
different.
A
A
So,
council,
member
fleming
votes
that
we
give
the
referral
to
make
options
to
make
downtime
it's
more
walkable,
a
score
of
three
plus
two
plus
one
plus
two
plus
one
equals
nine.
Oh,
my.
B
A
Council,
member
of
l
seconds
seeing
no
discussion,
council,
member
revell,
aye,
councilmember
fleming
aye,
I
vote
aye
and
on
a
three
to
zero
vote.
The
motion
passes.
B
And
could
I
could
I
just
ask
why
it
so
it
suggested
that
it
go
to
economic
development,
because
it
involves
the
downtown.
A
I
wasn't
sure
either
I
mean
when
I
when
I
made
the
referral,
I
sort
of
said
good
morning,
I
sort
of
said
I
have
no
idea
dia.
I
mentioned
planning
and
development.
D
A
Development
city
manager
did
you
sorry
you're
in
the
you're
you're?
Perhaps
not,
perhaps
this
conversation
comes
off
as
totally
incomprehensible.
We're
talking
about
the
referral
to
make
downtown
more
walkable,
which
got
slotted
in
economic
development.
Can
you
say
why
that
is.
D
A
couple
reasons:
the
first
is
that
it's
come
up
at
economic
development
for
several
years
and
there's
it's
both
an
infrastructure,
related
question
and
sort
of
a
other
amenity
related
question,
so
it
could
certainly
start
there
and
then
also
go
to
p
d,
and
we
could
have
multiple.
I
mean
it's
a
broad
concept,
so
I
think
to
be
effective,
it
has
to
be
narrowed
and
maybe
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
come
off
of
it
that
might
go
to
each
one
of
those
committees.
A
Right
but.
C
This
is
where
we
don't
know
what
they
have
on
their
agenda.
So,
even
if
we
say
this
is
immediate,
we're
not
sure
necessarily
they
can
get
it
on
immediately,
because
we
don't
know
what
else
they
have
that
they're
already
working
on.
So
we
brought
that
up
earlier
saying
some
of
our.
We
still
need
a
little
more
information
about
committees,
if
just
to
know,
if
we're
overloading
their
calendars
or
if
someone's
going
to
tell
us
like
hey,
they
already
have
a
lot
of
stuff.
They
can't
get
it
on
next
month
because
we
don't
have
their
agendas.
C
D
C
A
C
A
It
would
really
be
the
recommended,
whatever
whatever
types
of
words
we
decide
we
can
put
in
the
recommended
timeline
column.
I
think
I
think
I
think
the
recommended
timeline
and
the
counselor
committee
columns
require
a
vote
because
those
are
concrete
actions.
Yes,.
C
A
C
C
Sorry
two
for
the
number
three,
which
is
existing
policy
because
it
goes
along
with
our
financial
feasibility
or
whatever
that
would
be
considered
community
interest.
I
just
changed
that
to
a
two
now
that
I
understand
my
scoring
part
there
and
then
goals
of
priority.
I
also
gave
it
a
two
and
again
part
of
my
goals,
and
priority
is
just
we
haven't
necessarily
made
a
commitment
to
all
the
goals
that
we
have
now.
So
I
gave
that
an
eight.
B
And
I
gave
it
a
seven,
although
on
number
one
for
time
sensitivity,
I
said
one
or
two
just
because
I
do
think
it'll
I
mean
it's
something
we
should
talk
about.
B
You
know
as
we
get
into
the
budget
discussion.
What
would
be
the
demand?
I
gave
it
a
two
for
two.
I
gave
it
a
one
for
three,
because
it
is
I
mean
tax
levy
is
kind
of
our
an
important
policy
community
interest.
I
gave
a
two
and
goals
and
priorities
yeah
here,
I'm
taking
a
guess.
A
Okay,
so
I
would
say
the
first
column
on
time
sensitivity.
I
think,
there's
close
to
agreement
that
it
should
be
a
one
on
scope.
A
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
with
the
too
here
I
don't.
Obviously
you
could
just
decide
to
do
this,
but
I
to
me
this
is
in
the
context
of
a
broader
budget
discussion.
I
think
it's
constructive
if
it's,
if
it's
a
decision
made
in
the
context
of
what
trade-offs
it
compels,
and
I
think
that
does
require
some
staff
time.
So
I
would
I
would
vote
for
a
two
in
the
second
column,.
C
A
Then
connection
to
existing
policy,
I
mean
I
don't
I
mean
it's
deeply
connected
to
everything
I
mean
I
I
guess
I'm
going
to
go
with
the
one
here.
Personally,
I
think
community
interest,
you
guys
both
said
two,
I
think
goals
and
priorities.
I
I
think.
A
So
I
you
know,
I
just
tried
to
kind
of
where
there
were
ties
between
the
two
of
you.
I
tried
to
break
the
ties
and
I
landed
on
one
for
time:
sensitivity
two
for
scope,
one
for
connection
to
existing
policy,
two
for
community
interest
and
two
for
gold.
Slash
priorities
also
for
a
total
of
eight
are
folks.
Okay,
with
that
yeah.
A
A
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
extremely
significant,
because
you've
got
two
different,
complicated
problems.
One
is
the
legal
question:
interaction
with
state
and
federal
law
and
one
is
a
literally
global
search
for
other
policies
and
consequences,
so
I
feel
pretty
strong.
I
don't
feel
strongly
in
all
these
columns,
but
in
the
scope
column,
I
do
think
it
really
is
a
three.
I
think
it's
a
huge
project
if
you
want
to
do
it
responsibly
now,.
C
The
other
thing
I
thought
about
is
it
could
just
be
simply
a
discussion
item
at
human
services,
where
staff
really
doesn't
have
to
put
together
much
of
anything
in
council.
I
mean
you
know
councilmember.
You
could
make
his
case
because
I
also
don't
know.
I
mean
this
is
a
big
topic
and
I
don't
really
know
it.
You
know
because
we
didn't
have
the
form
like.
Is
he
looking
for
policy
change?
I
mean
you
know.
I
don't
really
exactly
not
sure
what
his
ultimate
goal
is
I'd.
C
Imagine
it's
a
policy
change,
so
we
could
send
this
back
to
him
and
say
fill
out
the
tracker
where
we're
getting
more
information
or
I
would
be
open
to
just
saying
it
could
go
on
a
human
services
agenda
in
the
future
for
just
a
discussion
and
he
could
explain
more.
What
he's
thinking
and
human
services
can
say.
That's
too
much
or
you
know
so,
there's
a
few
options.
I
think.
A
So
I'm
gonna
respectfully
suggest
that
we
keep
chugging
through,
since
I
think
we
can
agree
on
the
score,
I
think
with
the
numbers
like
that,
we're
probably
gonna
want
to
go
back
to
the
council
member
and
say:
hey
you
didn't
get
a
great
score.
Can
we
can
we
focus
this?
Can
you
give
us
more
direction,
et
cetera,
but
let's
can
we
just
write
down
the
15
and
move
on
in
the
interest
of
time?
Yes,.
B
A
So
that
brings
us
to
council
member
kelly's
referral
on
increase
in
fines
for
occupancy
related
violations.
What
did
folks
have
for
that?.
B
I
had
an
eight
with
a
two
for
time:
sensitivity:
a
one
for
staff
resources,
a
one
for
existing
policy,
two
for
community
interest
and
a
two
four
goals
and
priorities.
I
mean
there
is
there's,
definitely
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
the
first
ward,
fifth,
ward
and
seventh
ward.
C
A
This
is
a
funny
way
to
spend
the
morning
next
is
council
member
fleming's
referral
regarding
the
ada
plan.
C
Okay
and
actually
I'm
going
to
remove
that
one,
because
I
just
spoke
to
laura
biggs,
who
told
me
that
we
are
now
going
to
have
an
ada
plan
subcommittee
or
some
such
is
that
what
it's
called
city
manager
yeah.
So
I
was
actually
going
to
remove
that
one,
because
that's
already
taken
place
as
well
as-
and
you
see
these
are
older
staffing
of
epd.
A
Without
having
a
way
to
do
it,
I'm
just
going
to
put
strikethroughs
in
the
spreadsheet
okay,
those
can
be,
someone
can
go
back
and
make
that
prettier,
but
they're
gone
now.
It's
struck
through
now
great.
This
brings
us
to
council
member
ravel's
referral
regarding
bird
friendly
provisions
and
building
codes.
B
Okay,
so
I've
had
a
direct
conversation
with
city
staff
about-
and
this
is
it's
kind
of
in
the
works,
and
it's
just
because
the
international
building
code
is
something
that
we're
that
staff
is
currently
working
on.
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
when
it's
going
to
be
ready
for
p
d,
but
but
it's
my
understanding,
city
manager,
is
kind
of
in
the
works
sort
of
I
mean
I
gave
it
a
six
for
purposes
of
counting
the
numbers,
but.
B
B
A
So
I
don't
know
how
to
notate
that
here,
but
it
seems
it
seems
silly
for
us
to
go
through
the
exercise.
If.
C
Whatever
department
is
working
on,
it
sure
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
the
language
for
the
ada
one
as
well
just
so.
If
people
are
now
following
this
public
process,
they
know
that
they
just
get
dropped.
They're
already
being
worked
on
right.
A
C
C
So
I
gave
that
one
a
two
for
time
sensitivity
a
two
for
scope-
hello,
maybe
not,
but
I
didn't
know
what
the
legal
part
was.
So
that's
how
my
school
question
was
high.
I
gave
it
a
three
for
policy
because
I
wasn't
even
sure
what
the
policy
was
around
that
community
interest
and
my
backward
scoring.
I
gave
that
the
wrong
score
so
I'll
give
that
a
two,
and
I
gave
it
a
three
four
goal,
so
that
would
be
six
seven.
Eight
nine
ten
eleven
is
that
right.
A
I
so
I
think,
on
time,
sensitivity
I
I
do
agree
that
it's
a
three
on
scope.
I
mean
I
actually
do
agree
that
it's
a
one
on
scope.
I
think
that's
a
it's
a
relatively
doable
thing
on
connection
to
existing
policy.
I
think
it's
a
two
community
interest.
I
think
it's
a
two
and
on
goals
and
priorities,
I'll
I'll
defer
to
the
two
of
you
who
both
gave
it
a
three
so
that
I
got.
A
I
landed
on
three
one,
two,
two
three
again
as
a
kind
of
a
compromise
which
is
also.
B
C
All
right-
and
I
will
give
the
same
caveat
I
did
before
I
am
interested
in
the
topic
and
would
be
happy
to
discuss
it
just
as
a
discussion
item
that
doesn't
really
again
include
so
much
staff
time.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
start
the
policy
where
we
say
you
know,
if
you
have
another
council
member
who's
willing
to
support
this,
he
can
go
on
for
discussion,
but
I
mean
I'm
personally
interested,
so
I
would
be
happy
to
have
it
as
discussion
to
see
just
what
the
discussion
is
on
human
services.
Yeah.
C
Right
and
probably
not
even
as
big
as
I
mean
the
discrimination,
obviously
the
drugs
one
is
the
whole
bigger
one.
This
one,
I
think
we
would
get
some
public
feedback
which
might
help
us
to
figure
out
what
the
next
steps
would
be,
but
I
guess
I
say
that
to
say
if
it's
an
11
and
it
won't
get
on
the
agenda
at
all.
Just
based
on
that
score,
I
am
willing
to
have
the
conversation.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
again
we
don't.
Our
goal
is
not
to
be
mechanical
or
robotic
about
what
we
do
with
these
numbers
they're
they're
guides.
Then
we
want
to
make
judgments
that
actually
make
sense.
Okay,
next
is
the
overlay
zone,
public
access
cut-off
fee.
A
B
C
C
So
when
people
buy
a
home
that
has
beach
access,
because
now
I'm
thinking
of
just
north
of
I
guess
just
south
of
what's
the
name
of
the
park
that
I
proposed
for
the
dog
park
that
went
down
in
flames
at
the
beach,
they
do
have
gates
and
they
do
have
beaches.
But
do
they
do
we
sell
them
that
beach
space
when
they
buy
their
house.
B
I
think
that's
governed
by
state
law
that
this
the
state
owns
up
to
the
high
tide
line
or
the
or
the
I
don't
know
how
it's
how
we
define
that
in
in
illinois.
But-
and
I
yeah
I
don't
know
about
so-
the
public
has
access
guaranteed
access
up
to
the
high
tide
line.
But
I
don't
know
what.
If
the
resident
actually
owns
the
beach,
then
behind
that
or
not
it's
a.
B
C
And
so
I
just
gave
it
an
eleven,
a
three
for
sensitivity:
two
for
scope.
I
like
it,
also
go
three
for
scope,
two
for
existing
policy.
If
we're
concerned
about
the
beach
and
the
lake
front
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
two
for
interest,
and
then
I
have
it
as
a
two
for
goals.
A
And
if
you
look
at
so
I
had
it
as
a
three
for
time:
sensitivity:
two
for
scope,
two
for
connection
existing
policy,
three
for
community
interest
and
two
for
goals
as
well.
If
you
kind
of
look
at.
C
A
We,
where
we
kind
of
average
out
it's
three
and
then
three,
two
two
two
two
for
a
total
of.
B
C
C
It
was
a
little
unclear
whether
or
not
they
were
going
to
pick
it
up
as
a
project,
but
they
had
some
interest.
So
I
would
say
that
we
should
probably
not
score
that
one
right.
Okay,
I
think
it
will
start
there.
C
Yeah,
so
I
would
say
that
this
is
more
of
a
discussion
item
because
I'm
not
even
I
just
wanted
to
know
kind
of
where
it
came
from
and
why
we
do
it
and
who
reviews
it
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
And
there
were
a
couple
comments
about
it-
and
you
know
months
passed
by
residents
in
my
ward.
So
I'm
not
at
the
point
of
like
wanting
it
to
be
on
for
an
actual
policy,
just
more
so
of
a
discussion
but
anyway,
but
anyway,
in
my
own
scoring,
I
gave
it
a
12.
C
Which
was
a
two
for
time
sensitivity
I
had
backwards.
Actually,
so
that's
going
to
be
a
one
for
scope,
so
it's
not
a
12,
I'm
sorry
existing
policy.
I
have
it
as
a
three
because
I'm
not
even
sure
what
the
policy
is
community
interest.
I
have
it
as
a
one
because
I've
only
heard
from
a
few
people,
but
I
have
an
interest
and
then
goals.
I
have
is
a
three,
so
that
would
be
an
11.
I
guess.
B
C
C
I
have
it
as
a
one,
and
part
of
that
was
because
I
made
the
referral
back
in
may
and
it's
kind
of
a
follow-up.
I
did
want
to
on
another
note
time
to
consider
the
referrals
that
have
been
here
for
a
long
time,
kind
of.
C
For
scope,
it's
actually
a
one
for
connection
to
assistant
policy.
It
is,
I
think,
a
two
for
community
interest.
I
think
it
would
maybe
be
a
two
and
then
for
goals.
Our
current
goals
is
probably
a
three.
So
that's
five,
six,
eight
nine.
B
A
And
now
we
come
to
sort
of
a
complicated
one,
which
is
a
resolution
for
hiring
of
positions
in
the
2021
budget
from
council
member
kelly.
I
know
what
she
initially
said
was
requiring
council
approval
on
a
case-by-case
basis
for
the
rehiring
of
people
into
frozen
positions.
A
D
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
it
was
basically
we
would
have
to
approve
every
time
a
frozen
position
was
unfrozen,
which,
as
stated,
is
definitely
not
the
city
council's
purview.
I
certainly
agree
with
that.
So
the
question
is:
is
there
something
in
there
that
would
be
and
sounds
like
there's
not
a
clear
answer
yet.
C
B
A
B
That
a
two
for
time
sensitivity
a
one
for
staff
resources
of
one
for
existing
policy,
a
one
for
community
interest,
I'm
sorry.
I
was
muted
here
and
a
three
for
goals
and
priorities.
Basically
an
eight-
and
I
know,
there's
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
parts
of
the
community
in
this
issue.
A
B
A
A
Okay,
great
so
I'll
mark
that
down
then,
and
that's
two
plus
two
plus
one
plus
two
plus
one
equals
eight.
It
is
ten
o'clock,
but
we
have
just
a
few
left.
So,
let's
see
if
we
can
power
through
them
quickly,
the
next
is
comed
transmission
lines.
A
A
D
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
transmission
lines
that
run
mostly
through
the
fifth
ward,
overhead
ones,
about
burying
them
and
there's
been
conversations
in
the
past
with
comed
and
with
apw
about
how
we
would
fund
that.
Whether
we
would
put
it
on
spread
it
across
the
city
and
put
it
on
people's
power
bills.
Or
if
the
city
would
offset
a
portion
of
it
by
paying
down
some
of
it.
And
then
the
community
would
absorb
the
rest.
B
A
Yeah
I
had
relatively
similar
similar
numbers
as
well,
so
I
can
so
that
gives
it.
Oh,
that's
not
how
you
type
one
plus
two
plus
one
plus
three
plus
two
equals
nine.
C
A
Okay,
we
can
come
back
to
that
and
then
I
there's
only
one
more.
That
was
made
a
long
time
ago
that
I
want
to
do
before.
We
have
to
break,
which
is
also
from
council
member
burns
and
that's
the
property
standards,
complaint
process
and
operation.
B
So
I
gave
it
a
three
for
time
sensitivity,
but
if
maybe,
if
it's
been
made
so
long
ago,
we
ought
to
deal
with
it.
A
two
four
scope,
a
one
for
existing
policy,
a
one
for
community
interest
and
a
three
for
goals
and
priorities.
C
And
so
that,
and
I
gave
it
at
eight
one
for
time,
two
for
scope,
one
for
policy,
two
for
interest,
two
for
goals.
A
Got
it
so
I
do
agree
that
actually
it
should
be
a
one
for
time
sensitivity.
I
think
it's
been
a
conversation's
been
a
long
time
coming.
A
A
Okay,
we're
past
10
o'clock,
so
I
think
I
think
it's
time
to
adjourn.
We've
done
these
numbers
for
almost
everything,
except
for
the
you
know,
except
for
the
most
recent
referrals
plus
a
few
that
we
had
reason
not
to
my
takeaway
from
this
is
that
it's
gonna
the
next
step
is
gonna,
be
the
significant
part
of
really
turning
this
into
an
actual
recommendation.
So
I
would.
A
I
would
request
that
we
that
we
show
up
to
our
next
meeting
which,
by
the
way
I'll
be
doing
remotely
if
that's
okay
with
everybody,
because
I'll
be
out
of
town
on
the
morning
of
august
5th.
I
would
suggest
that
we
come
to
that
meeting
with
with
specific
ideas
about
what
items
we,
what
cat,
what
the
options
we'd
want
to
give
ourselves
for
the
recommended
timeline.
So
we,
whether
it's
30,
60,
90,
whether
it's
immediately
yeah,
right
or
or
or
or
rarely
right,
but
I
think
we
should.
C
Well,
I
mean
there's
the
board
up
thing,
which
is
planning
development.
There's
the
tenant
landlord,
that's
apnw,
I
mean
so
if
we're
not
going
to
be
putting
them
on
a
calendar
until
next
month-
and
we
say
that's
their-
you
know
there's
a
chance
that
some
of
these
aren't
coming
into
october,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that
would
be.
C
A
C
So
I
know
we
don't
want
to
do
something
to
fly,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
put
some
dates
with
some
of
these
that
have
been
on
here
for
a
really
long
time.
But
if
we
feel
like
we
don't
have
time
to
do
that,
then
that's
okay,
but
well.
A
I
would
say
some
of
these
have
both
been
here
for
a
really
long
time
and
have
a
score
of
under
10..
So
I
would
say
perhaps
we
just
you
know
yeah
we're
just
getting
off
the
ground
here.
We
could
just
send
an
email
to
the
chairs
of
those
committees
saying
you
know.
We
believe
that
these
items
are
worthy
of
rapid
consideration.
It's
been
a
while,
can
you
can
you
work
to
get
them
on
the
calendar?
It
doesn't
need
to
be
a
formal
vote
or
direction,
but
I
think
we
should.
A
I
think
it
is
worth
it
is
worth
kind
of
just
nudging
right
now.
C
So
that
would
be
property
standards
as
well
as
landlord
tenant
process
board
up
policy
re-entering
citizens
and
squadron
which
I'm
as
the
referrer
is
just
a
discussion
item
as
well
as
the
crime
bulletin.
Just
a
discussion,
I
think,
is
that
all
for
our.
C
A
Well,
it
also
got
a
low
number,
a
high
number.
I.