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Reimagining Public Safety Committee Meeting 9/14/2021
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If
I
could
ask
folks
who
aren't
speaking
to
mute
themselves,
because
I
think
we're
getting
a
little
bit
of
feedback,
that
would
be
awesome
and
thank
you,
as
always
to
the
group
for
both
both
the
various
participants
and
the
members
of
the
public.
For
for
being
a
part
of
this,
as
always,
we'll
begin
with
public
comments.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public?
Who
would
like
to
give
a
public
comment?
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C
A
The
eyes
have
it
and
the
minutes
are
adopted
next
you'll
remember.
Last
week
we
had
a
presentation
from
the
aclu
that
took
the
full
hour,
and
so
we
bumped
from
our
agenda
hearing
from
our
working
groups,
which
means
that
we've
missed
you
know
missed
a
a
week,
a
couple
weeks
of
updates
and
I
think,
there's
really
important
and
exciting
stuff
for
those
groups
to
share.
A
So
let
me
start
with
the
violence
prevention
working
group,
where
I
know
that
since
our
last
meeting
evangeline
stepped
in
and
shared
their
most
recent
led
their
most
recent
discussion
and
she
and
andy
have
worked
on
a
document
and
some
ideas
and
I'm
not
sure
if
the
two
of
you
have
worked
out.
The
question
of
who
wants
to.
F
G
Thanks
I've
been
volunteered
voluntold
to
kind
of
report
back,
but
I'm
happy
to
do
it
on
the
behalf
of
our
committee
members,
also
a
big
thanks
to
evangeline
nathan,
sicily,
the
rest
of
the
team
that
that
has
all
contributed.
So
I'm
just
kind
of
reporting
back,
so
we've
actually
had
two
we've
been
developing
two
down
two
major
lines
of
thought.
G
I
want
to
start
by
saying
you
know
our
group
continues
to
acknowledge
roughly
the
three
different
sort
of
levels
when
we're
talking
about
violence,
prevention,
the
sort
of
intervention,
short
term,
the
prevention
midterm
and
the
truly
transformative.
We
believe
we
continue
to
have
to
focus
on
all
three
get.
Our
group,
as
we
you've
heard
us
say
before,
are
going
to
focus
specifically
on
intervention
on
the
sort
of
the
on
the
ground,
immediate
harm
and
and
trauma.
G
G
We've
been
kind
of
branching
out
in
two
of
lots
of
areas
to
think
about
things,
assets
and
opportunities
in
evanston
that
we
can
improve
to
really
make
some
strides
and
reimagine
in
this
space
and
the
two
we're
going
to
talk
about
very
very
briefly
here.
We're
not
ready
to
report
back
any
formal
documents
or
presentations
are
street
or
neighborhood
outreach,
which
looks
at
those
who
are
most
deeply
involved
in
disputes
that
lead
to
violence,
including
things
like
the
homicides
and
shootings
that
we
experience
as
well
as
victim
services
and
survivors
of
violent
crime.
G
So
we've
been
branching
off
in
these
two
areas,
trying
to
get
a
grip
on
the
current
state
of
things
in
evanston,
as
well
as
think
about
best
practices
and
other
potential
opportunities
to
innovate
and
so
again
and
again,
thanks
to
nathan
and
everybody
else
who
really.
We
sat
down
and
pulled
out
the
markers
and
and
started
doing
these
things
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
who's
most
immediately
in
harm's
way
and
again.
This
is
nothing
that
hasn't
been
said
to
many
times
in
different
spaces
in
evanston
or
in
other
things.
G
But
a
lot
of
the
interpersonal
violence
is
is
driven
by
a
small
number
of
individuals.
We
don't
want
to
give
a
number
per
se,
but
it's
not
a
lot
somewhere
between
25
to
50.
There
are
a
lot
of
old
neighborhood
family
crew
disputes
that
spill
over
into
school
that
spill
over
into
public
places
that
spill
over
into
homes,
but
we
believe
it's
still
a
relatively
small
number
of
individuals
and
clicks
and
things
that
are
involved
and
one
of
the
strategies
we've
been
talking
about
here
since
day.
G
One
and
evanston
is
grateful
enough
to
have
some
experts
in
this
space.
Is
this
idea
of
street
or
neighborhood
outreach,
which
is
using
broadly
credible
messengers
people
with
lived
experience
to
reach
out
to
those
in
harm's
way?
And
so
we've
been
trying
to
understand
what
assets
evanston
currently
has,
and
there
are
full-time
outreach
workers,
for
example,
but
we're
also
trying
to
understand
best
practice.
G
This
credible
messengers
model
people
that
have
lived
experience,
but
also
thinking
about
ways
that
we
can
go
from
that
intervention
to
that
transformative
level,
with
individuals
and
families
by
potentially
wrapping
in
outreach
with
programming
services
stipends
and
we're
seeing
movement
on
these
sorts
of
phased,
immediate
programming
in
cities,
including
chicago,
but
also
other
cities,
sacramento
oakland,
baltimore
boston
that
are
extremely
promising,
and
so
one
subgroup
of
the
subgroup
has
been
exploring.
What
a
model
like
this
might
look
like
in
evanston.
How
do
we
reach
these
individuals?
G
What
skills
and
trainings
to
the
workers
that
are
doing
the
work?
Need
we
wanted
to
stress?
You
don't
want
to
set
people
up
to
fail
if
you
say
you're
going
to
do
it,
they
have
to
have
resources
and
support
to
do
it
and
then
what
sorts
of
opportunities
and
evidence
do
we
have
say
for
life,
coaching,
cognitive,
behavioral
therapy,
job
placement
and
so
on.
So
nathan,
myself
and
a
few
others
are
starting
to
think
and
look
and
create.
G
You
know
some
ideas
that
we
hope
to
bring
back
to
this
committee,
so
one
strand
is
to
continue
to
look
at
street
outreach
or
neighborhood
outreach
and
and
what
the
needs
are
and
what
we
have
and
what
we
could
potentially
do.
The
good
news
here
is
again
there's
a
lot
of
innovation
happening
in
this
space,
so
we're
not
starting
from
scratch,
including
things
happening
from
small
and
mid-sized
cities,
and
not
just
chicago
and
big
cities.
So
that's
the
street
outreach
neighborhood
outreach
branch,
the
victim
services
branch.
G
I
will
not
do
evangeline's
work
justice
here
either
and
I
want
to
take
any
credit
for
it.
I
actually
have
now
a
detailed
history
of
victim
services
in
evanston
and
cook
county.
I'm
a
super
nerd,
so
I
love
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
want
to
also
just
stress
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
history
as
it
is
with
street
outreach.
So
we
don't
kind
of
just
repeat
it
really.
G
Some
of
the
key
questions
which
evangeline
presented
earlier
in
this
larger
group
were
those
ideas
of
you
know,
making
sense
and
following
blueprints
in
this
space
from
other
states.
Other
counties
also
understanding
the
nested
nature
of
city,
county
state,
understanding,
who
is
a
crime
victim?
What's
a
violent
crime
and
importantly,
who's.
G
G
As
with
the
outreach
space,
one
of
the
themes,
we're
kind
of
continuing
to
see,
or
at
least
emerging
in
evanston-
is
that
there
are
lots
of
resources,
but
lining
these
things
up
and
understanding
that
somebody
who
does
say
youth
outreach
might
not
be
best
person
to
do
say.
Street
outreach
or
people
who
do
use
services
might
not
be
the
right
person
to
do
victim
services.
There
are
very
particular
skills
that
are
needed
to
address
victim
services.
G
You
know
a
nice,
a
system
or
pipeline
or
program
regardless
one
of
these
things
in
these
different
things.
So
those
are
the
two
places
we've
started.
You
know
we
plan
to
go
in
other
places
as
well,
but
we
need
we
felt
like
we
wanted
to
dig
in.
Let
me
pause
nathan
evangeline
in
particular,
but
anybody
from
the
committee
have
I
missed
anything
I
I
mean
I
have
have.
I
missed
anything
crucial.
I
suppose
that
we
want
that.
You
wanted
to
raise.
B
G
Thanks
nathan,
sir
nathan,
there's
a
few
models
emerging
across
the
country
two
in
chicago,
but
some
that
have
been
done
in
california,
baltimore
boston.
The
idea
when
you
have
street
outreach
or
neighborhood
outreach
right
as
you
have
these
credible
messengers,
we
know
without
a
doubt
they
can
find
the
right
people
right.
We
know
this
uniformly.
They
know
these
networks,
they
know
the
neighborhoods,
they
know
families
they
can
find
people.
G
What
people
have
been
innovating
is
do,
starting
with
outreach
and
creating
a
phased
set
of
programming,
and
some
of
these
include
I'm
just
some
of
the
models
are
chicago
cred,
ready,
chicago
roca,
advanced
peace
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
links
for
some
of
these.
But
the
idea
is
once
you
have
them,
you
get
them
to
commit
to
a
program
12
18
months
and
it's
phased,
and
it
has
lots
of
the
things
that
individuals
who
have
experienced
trauma
or
violence
and
are
living
with
it
and
are
in
harm's
way
need.
G
So
again,
I'm
just
going
to
throw
some
out
in
no
particular
order:
life,
coaching,
cognitive,
behavioral
therapy,
skills,
development,
job
readiness,
job
placement
and
some
of
the
most
promising
programs
also
included
stipends
monthly
stipends.
So
people
are
actually
if
there
was
actually
an
op-ed
today
by
david,
mohammed
and
san
francisco
examiner.
G
Maybe
it
was
yesterday
about
this
idea
that
you
are
actually
paying
people
to
do
a
program,
and
that
is
important,
while
they're
in
the
program
and
just
as
important,
some
of
the
models
are
showing
as
making
sure
there's
a
something
at
the
end
right.
One
of
the
things
we
know
about
transitional
jobs
or
summer
jobs.
Is
they
work
during
the
transition
or
the
summer?
G
But
if
they're
not
sustainable
and
you
don't
have
family
sustaining
wages,
the
effect
will
be
short
term.
So
this
is
one
of
this
instinct
nathan.
Thank
you
for
raising
that
you
know
we
were
starting
to
think
about
all
right.
If
we
can
find
him,
then
what
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
move
from
just
you
know
trying
to
lower
account
of
injuries,
to
creating
real
transformation
and
figuring
out
what
the
particular
evanston
variety
of
that
might
look
like.
H
You
know
there
are
there
are
times-
and
we
talked
about
this
in
our
work
group-
that
there
might
be
a
need
for
both
right
youth
services
would
need
to
show
up
and
support.
Someone
who
is
a
farm,
doer
and
victim
services
would
need
to
show
up
to
support
someone
who's
harmed
and
so
being
really
clear
about
what
that
looks
like,
and
what
that
you
know
how
the
teams
could
coalesce
in
a
in
a
reimagined
situation.
So
that's
some
of
the
the
the
pieces.
A
A
I
I
know
these
reports
have
been
sort
of
intermediate:
that's
what
they
are
by
definition.
So
with
acknowledging
that
there
isn't
sort
of
a
punch
line,
yet
do
folks
have
questions
about
kind
of
what
we've
heard
about
so
far
or
questions
that
you'd
like
us
to
have
in
mind,
as
we
continue
to
do
this
work
going
forward.
A
I
So
councilmember
burns
texted
me
at
three
or
what
time
is
it
at
yeah?
3,
59
saying
hey?
Can
you
give
the
report,
so
I
will
try
not
to
ramble,
because
I
don't
have
notes
about
what
I'm
supposed
to
say,
but
I
think
that
the
two
things
that
I
would
just
emphasize
that
we've
worked
on
the
most
and
please
somebody
who's
also
on
the
working
group
chime
in
if
you
have
a
better
working
memory
than
I
do.
I
So
that's
that's
one
area
that
we've
keyed
in
on
the
second.
At
the
prompting
of
councilmember
burns
is
unpacking
further.
What
it
actually
means
to
be
a
police
officer
are
there
statutory
obligations
that
police
officers
have
we've
heard
about
this
thing
called
a
peace
officer?
Well,
what's
that
and
what's
that
in
comparison
to
that
of
a
law
enforcement
officer,
I
did
the
legal
research
along
with
two
of
my
law
clerks
here
at
the
moran
center.
I
Our
ultimate
conclusion
is
there's
a
lot
of
gray
between
these
two
roles,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
distinction
does
not
seem
extensive
and
plus.
We
also
learned
that
all
law
enforcement
officers
are
peace
officers,
but
not
all
peace
officers
are
law
enforcement
officers.
So
if
you
didn't
know
that
before
today
now
you
know
so
that's
one
big
key
takeaway,
but
what
we
do
with
that
information,
I
have
to
admit
is-
is
un
is
unclear
to
me,
but
so
those
are
two
key
key
areas.
I
E
E
E
You
know
a
public
safety
or
public
accountability
force
that
is,
does
not
have
the
same
responsibilities
as
law
enforcement,
and
you
know
one
of
the
key
descriptors
that
came
out
for
a
peace
officer.
Is
that
hey?
If
a
peace
officer
is
you
know,
patrick,
you
may
have
the
language
better
than
I,
but
something
along
the
lines
of
you
know.
If
a
peace
officer
serves
essentially
as
a
law
enforcement
officer
for
a
year,
they
or
they
become
a
law
enforcement
officer.
C
E
In
danger
full
time
for
a
year,
they
become
a
law
enforcement.
So
the
question
is,
you
know:
are
there
workarounds
that?
Can
we
have
part
of
their
time?
Not
you
know,
be
the
enforcement
of
crime
or
you
know.
Can
we
structure
this
potentially
in
a
way
that
we
have
similar
to
our?
You
know:
property
standards,
folks
who
go
out
and
enforce
code?
Can
we
have
another?
You
know
as
we're
thinking
about
restructuring
the
organization.
B
I
Down
that
is
correct,
and
it
really
I
had
a
really
geeky
conversation
with
the
general
counsel
of
the
illinois
police
training
board,
who
obviously
loves
talking
about
the
illinois
police
training
act,
which
I
have
to
admit
before
this
committee.
I
never
read,
but
really
in
his
mind,
it's
very
simple
and
I
I
think
it
is
actually
more
complex
than
this.
But
from
his
perspective,
it's
simple
in
that
law
enforcement
officers
are
required
to
go
through
560
hours
of
training,
that
is
training
approved
by
the
illinois
police
training
board,
whereas
peace
officers.
I
If
they
want
to
be
equipped
with
a
firearm,
they
have
to
go
through
only
the
40-hour
fire
and
ammunition
training,
which
is
specifically
for
peace
officers
and
parole
officers
in
the
state
of
illinois
and
there's
a
whole
separate
act
called
the
illinois
peace
officer
and
parole
probation
officer,
firearm
training
act,
so
that
was
in
in
his
mind
the
big
distinction
between
between
there.
There
are
other
distinctions
like,
for
example,.
I
Nathan,
I
mean
when
we're
talking
about
sorry,
I'm
getting
my
notes
in
front
of
me,
for
example,
other
examples
of
peace
officers.
A
coroner,
for
example,
is
is
a
peace
officer
and
is
not
required
to
go
through
law
enforcement,
training
under
the
illinois
police
training
act,
but
to
council
member
reed's
point.
For
example,
if
the
coroner
was
filling
fulfilling
the
role
essentially
of
a
law
enforcement
officer
for
a
year,
they
would
actually
ostensibly
be
a
law
enforcement
officer,
so
I
feel
like
I'm
rambling,
but
hopefully
somewhere
in
that
rambling.
I
answered
your
question.
A
J
More
of
a
question
for
patrick
and
when
you
spoke
with
the
the
head
of
the
train,
you
know
the
training
academy.
Did
he
give
you
any
insight
as
to
the
definition
under
the
illinois
illinois
administrative
code,
which
sort
of
indicates
that
law
enforcement
officers
can
be
peace,
officers
who've
been
employed
for
at
least
a
year.
J
I
I
did
not
specifically
ask
him
that
question
though,
as
you
as
you
referenced,
I
I
placed
that
in
my
memo,
just
because
I
was
like
oh
look
at
look
at
that.
Look
at
that
section,
but
I
did
not
specifically
ask
him
I
could
follow
up.
He
was
a
really
wonderful
man
who
was
willing
to
actually
take
a
lot
of
time
to
talk
to
me
and
share
his
expertise.
So
I'm
sure
I
could
go
back
to
him
on
that.
I
think.
J
The
information
regarding
the
hours
of
training
is
probably
the
best
in
in
disha,
but
I
was
just
curious,
like
I
think,
that's
right.
It's
defined
in
the
administrative
code
that,
if
you're
employed
for
a
year,
all
of
a
sudden
you're
a
law
enforcement
officer.
So
I
just
want
to
ask
that
question.
Thank
you.
No
thank.
I
E
If
I
can
just
chime
in
and
patrick,
I
appreciate
you
know
all
of
your
time
on
this,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
interesting
about
that.
I
think
that
kind
of
demonstrates.
The
answer
to
that
is
the
fact,
like
he
said,
a
coroner
or
probation
officer
that
there
are
all
these
folks
that
are
peace
officers,
but
because
they're
not
performing.
E
I
Yeah
and
unfortunately,
what
we,
what
we
also
found,
I
promise
daniel
is
the
last
thing
I'll
say
she
see.
I
didn't
even
prepare
and
I'm
talking
your
ears
off.
I
I
think
this
is
what
I
would
say
is
that
in
our
research-
and
I
I
hope,
council
cummings
would
agree
with
me
that
a
lot
of
this
stuff
has
been
decided
by
our
courts.
A
F
Right,
I
have
a
question
and
you
don't
need
to
answer,
but
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
this.
We
are
talking
about
some
category
or
some
measure
of
reclassifying
our
officers
as
we
know
them,
as
now
do
will
we
be
looking
at
and
since
a
lot
of
this
is
selling
in
the
court
and
also
with
the
union
to
determine
the
pace
status.
So
that's
something
I
think
we
should
look
at
okay.
F
A
Yeah
totally
couldn't
agree
more,
and
I
think
you
know
frankly,
ms
esther,
I
think
those
are
among
many
many
many
kind
of
important,
concrete
questions
that
arise
if,
if
the
interest
of
the
group
is
to
go
in
this
direction,
so
yeah,
I
think
you're
right
on
the
specifics
and
you're
right
in
the
generalities
as
well.
There's
a
lot
a
lot
to
be
said
in
that
area.
So
thank
you.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is,
broadly
speaking,
a
debrief
for
the
aclu
presentation.
A
I
want
to
spend
the
the
bulk
of
this
time
getting
the
sense
of
the
the
committee,
but
just
to
give
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
30-second
recap
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
corporation
council.
The
the
aclu
presented,
what
they
were
kind
of
promoting
as
a
model
that
they
they
saw
as
very
successful
in
brooklyn
center
minnesota.
A
The
idea
there
being
to
pass
a
super,
ambitious,
far-reaching,
relatively
high
level
resolution,
saying
here's
kind
of
what
the
end
state
looks
like
and
then
now
that
we've
passed
it
we've
got
a
million
specific
implementation
projects
that
that
we're
gonna
then
have
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
do.
I
wanted
the
corporation
council
to
speak
to
at
least
two
questions
around
this.
First
of
all,
the
issue
was
raised
two
weeks
ago
of
like
what
do
you
really
accomplish
with
a
resolution?
You
know
it's
not
really
binding.
A
And
so
I
wanted
the
corporation
council
to
speak
again
both
to
sort
of
the
kind
of
legal
and
also
historical
implications
of
this
resolution
approach.
And
then
also
you
know
what
is
within
our
purview
and
what
is
clearly
out
of
our
purview
and
what's
kind
of
a
gray
area
or
or
maybe
in
dual
purview.
So
with
that,
mr
conants.
J
Good
afternoon,
one
nicholas
cummings
corporation
council
for
the
city
of
evanston,
with
respect
to
resolutions
and
I've
had
extensive
discussion
about
resolutions
with
councilmember
burns
actually
over
the
last
week
and
what
they
represent.
Resolutions
are
commitments
and
actions
of
the
city
by
way
of
the
city
council
taking
action.
So
while
they,
you
know
in
theory,
may
not
have
the
quote
unquote
force
of
law.
J
They
are
something
that
it's
expected,
that
the
city
is
actually
going
to
do
or
is
doing,
and
one
of
the
strongest
examples
I
use
with
that
is.
The
creation
of
the
city's
reparation
fund
was
done
by
by
resolution,
and
the
city
is
actually
stuck
to
that
commitment.
It's
really
up
to
the
city
to
fulfill
those
those
commitments.
Another
example
would
be
the
delivery
caps
on
the
individual.
J
Delivery
services,
grubhub,
uber,
eats,
etc.
That
was
also
a
resolution,
and
those
organizations
have
followed
that
commitment,
even
though
it
was
a
resolution,
they
followed
that
community
to
limit
their
delivery
caps
to
15,
so
resolutions
can
still
be
forceful
and
can
can
be
impactful
used
properly,
and
I
don't
know
the
form
of
government
that
brooklyn
center
has,
if
they
even
have.
J
J
A
J
Of
government
that
would
be
under
the
purview
of
the
city
manager's
office
to
make
those
ultimate
decisions.
There
are
some
things:
the
city
council,
an
example
of
how
this
actually
could
work.
If
you
did
create
a
new
department,
there
are
certain
duties
of
the
chief
of
police,
for
example,
are
designated
under
the
city
code
in
the
creation
of
the
police
department
and
the
creation
of
the
chief
police,
the
office
of
the
chief
police.
So
some
of
those
policies
and
practices
that
I
mentioned
would
be
under
the
purview.
J
The
city
manager's
office
are
actually
designated
to
the
chief
of
police
in
our
city
code
with
the
approval
of
the
city
manager.
So
that
would
also
have
to
be
the
same
thing
done
here.
If
we
wanted
a
model
similar
to
what
the
aclu
did
in
brooklyn,
city
or
brooklyn
center,
sorry
city
council
could
create
new
departments,
could
you
know,
create
the
structure
designate
certain
authority
and
power,
but
ultimately,
at
the
end
of
the
day
in
illinois,
under
article
five
that
would
fall
under
the
city
manager's
office.
A
A
Great
thank
you
again.
That
was
really
really
helpful.
I'm
supposed
to
be
pretending
that
that
was
helpful
to
me
and
that
it
explained
things
to
other
people
that
I
already
knew,
but
in
fact
it
was
helpful
to
me
as
well
and
helping
to
educate
me
about
this.
This
job
that
I
seem
to
have.
So
with
that
I'm
curious
to
hear
to
hear
feedback.
A
I
think
others
in
this
group
may
also
feel
that
you
know
candidly.
Maybe
a
weakness
of
our
efforts
has
been
that
we
haven't
been
clear
and
unanimous
about
our
end
goals,
and
so
that's
left
us
doing
good
work,
but
not
always
sure
about
where
we
want
to
be
getting
to
and
having
a
resolution
like
this
would
solve
that
problem.
I
think,
on
the
flip
side,
there's
the
question
of
you
know
what
is
the
difficulty
in
achieving
something
like
this
and
given
that
it
isn't
really
fully
binding?
What
would
we
get
out
of.
J
A
And
how
far
are
we
from
having
unanimity
around
what
our
goals
are,
and
so
how?
To
what
extent
is
it
is
it?
Is
it
really
possible
to
to
go
down
this
path
and
I'm
sure
there
are
arguments
on
both
sides
beyond
those,
but
I
think
those
sort
of
summarize
kind
of
what
I
heard
two
weeks
ago
and
so
with
that
I'd
love
to
hear
feedback
about
whether
this
is
an
approach
folks
want
to.
A
A
A
A
Here's
what
victim
services
are
going
to
look
like
when
our
work
is
finished?
Here's
what
traffic
enforcement
is
going
to
look
like
when
our
work
is
finished.
Here's
what
a
new
department
of
public
safety
you
know,
etc
to
kind
of
describe
at
a
high
level
where
we're
going
not
put
every
nut
and
every
bolt
in
an
ordinance
that
completes
the
work
but
sort
of
lays
out
kind
of
paints,
a
picture
of
where
we're
going.
B
E
E
To
that-
and
I
think
you
know
even
with
I
mean
the
great
work
we've
done
with
reparations
part
of
it
is
we've
passed
a
resolution
that
said:
hey
we're
gonna
commit
10
million
dollars,
but
we
haven't
actually
found
where
we're
going
to
get
the
10
million
dollars
from,
and
so
I
just
don't.
You
know
I,
I
think,
continuing
the
work
and
actually
coming
together
and
getting
an
ordinance
that
goes
before
the
council.
K
B
A
F
F
F
That
has
not
been
to
these
meetings
or
have
been
to
these
meetings
that
have
not
spoken
up
and
feel
left
out
or
that
okay,
here's
something
else
we're
going
to
get
jam
down
our
throat.
One
of
the
things
that
the
aclu
did
stress-
and
I
hope
that
we
take
to
heart,
is
that
they
had
the
community
involved
because
the
problems
that
was
happening
in
brooklyn
and
the
things
that
happened
there
was
because
nobody
was
bothering
to
talk
to
the
resident.
F
All
we
want
you
to
do,
hey
you,
pay
your
taxes.
Did
you
pay
your
fine
or
did
what
you
were
supposed
to
do
in
terms
of
supporting
the
city,
but
then
nobody
is
asking
them
hey.
What
can
we
do
with
you?
Are
we
giving
you
what
you
need,
or
are
you
seeing
things
that
should
not
be
happening
and
we
are
talking
about
making
changes
and
good
or
bad
to
the
law
enforcement
thing?
F
Hopefully
it
will
come
out
to
be
good,
very
good,
but
that
will
only
be
determined
is
by
how
the
residents
accept
it.
So
we
have
to
also
think
and
be
creative
to
say,
okay
here,
this
is
what
we
got
now.
We've
got
to
go
out
and
sell
it
to
this
people,
the
people
out
in
the
community
and
get
them
to
buy
on
and
accept
it.
Otherwise
it
will
be
counsel,
make
a
decision
and
you
have
to
live
with
this
and
they
look
at
it.
Yes,
no,
I
don't.
F
They
sit
down
with
the
residents
in
that
community
and
have
a
discussion
on
it
and
when
it
comes
back
and
they
approved
it,
one
thing
that
they
have
found
that
they
are
one
saving
money
in
terms
of
the
developer
is
getting
something
that
he
need
and
he
don't
have
to
save
some
money,
which
also
turns
out
that
the
city
will
gain
money.
So
we
have
to
and
I'm
sorry
it
comes
down
to
the
dollar
as
tunnel.
What
we
are
in
terms
of
the
city
government,
do
we
have
enough
money
to
sponsor
these
programs?
F
A
F
C
C
A
I
A
A
A
We
have
these
three
working
groups,
they're
they're,
all
moving
forward,
they're
all
doing
real
work.
I
think
the
betty
bog
point
is
a
legitimate
assessment
of
what's
going
on
with
all
of
them,
which
is
that
it
is
they're
all
moving
forward,
and
you
know,
let's
do
this
with
maritime
metaphors,
they're
all
they're,
all
ships
at
sea
and
the
shore
is
not
yet
visible
and
there's
a
lot
of
peril.
Therefore,
that
lies
between
where
they
currently
are,
and
the
ports.
A
So
I
I
I
don't
I
I
I'm
a
little
hesitant,
not
withstanding.
The
last
two
comments
to
kind
of
try
to
corral
the
group
where
I
think
the
at
least
based
on
who
spoke
up
today.
Maybe
the
small
majority
lies
on
the
other
side,
into
kind
of
turning
our
work
into
a
single,
one-size-fits-all
giant
resolution
with
all
of
our
goals
in
it.
A
A
So
I
it's
five
o'clock,
we're
going
to
break
but
I'll
put
that
sort
of
statement
in
writing
happy
to
take
feedback
and
criticism
and
change
course
doesn't
work
for
folks.
But
I
think
at
this
point
that
strikes
me
as
the
right
happy
medium
and
I
think
it's
a
doable
project
given
where
we
are
on
the
work.
A
A
It
is
clear
to
me
that
we
were
making
real
progress
that
we've
more
work
ahead
than
we
do
behind
us,
but
nonetheless
that
we're
on
a
really
meaningful
productive
path.
So
that's
thanks
to
everyone's
engagement.
I
appreciate
a
great
deal
without
the
september
14th
meeting
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
committee
stands
adjourned
and.