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A
For
our
third
segment,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
costs
associated
with
the
Robert
Crown
Center
project,
not
only
the
cost
associated
with
building
it,
but
the
cost
associated
with
the
paying
off
the
debt
that
we'll
be
issuing
for
the
project
and
with
me,
our
three
guests
to
help
talk
about
that.
First
erika
story:
the
assistant
city
manager,
welcome
America,
Thank,
You,
Lara
Biggs,
the
city
engineer,
Lara
that
you've
been
doing
a
lot
of
those
project.
A
B
We
are
about
25
percent,
complete
on
the
project
and
where
we
are,
we
have
poured
the
foundations
for
the
buildings.
We
have
put
up
the
steel
for
two
of
the
three
segments
of
the
main
building.
We
call
those
areas
be
in
Area
C
and
they
encompass
the
main
ice
rinks.
We
are
in
the
process
of
building
all
of
the
concrete
block
walls
that
are
the
preschool
room
walls,
the
locker-room
walls.
We
have
built
the
walls
where
the
bleachers
are
going
to
be
installed,
and
you
can
really
begin
to
see
this
building
coming
together.
B
B
It
a
lot
of
concrete
it's
going
to
be
about
40
truckloads
of
concrete
it
has
to
each
rink
floor
has
to
be
done
in
a
single
concrete,
pour
that
takes
about
eight
hours
and
uses
40
truckloads
of
concrete.
There
is
laser
calibrated
equipment
to
make
sure
that
this
floor
is
extremely
flat,
and
so
the
first
two
hours
we
will
this
be
putting
the
concrete
into
the
area
of
the
rink
floor
and
then
they'll
spend
six
hours
finishing
the
floor
with
the
laser
calibrated
equipment.
B
The
first
part
will
be
in
early
July
and
the
second
pour
for
the
second
drink
floor
will
be
in
early
August
after
the
floors
are
poured.
We
submerge
them
underwater
to
cure
the
concrete
it
makes
for
a
stronger,
more
durable
concrete
than
it's
typically
done,
and
we
actually
cannot
get
on
those
floors
for
28
days.
We
can't
risk
anything
touching
them,
so
that
is
a
very
intricate
part
of
this.
It's
very
exciting
to
see
that
we're
getting
to
these
stages.
B
A
B
B
A
B
Correct
we
will
be
starting
in
January
in
February,
with
the
demolition
of
the
existing
building,
once
we've
moved
out
of
that
building
and
it
fully
operational
in
the
new
building.
The
artificial
turf
fields
and
the
parking
lot
are
actually
going
to
be
built
where
the
existing
building
is,
and
so
that
demolishing
will
take
pretty
quick
time
period
six
to
eight
weeks,
and
then
we
will
be
on
with
construction
of
the
artificial
turf
fields
in
the
new
parking
lot.
So.
A
A
lots
been
talked
about
Laura
about
the
cost
of
the
project.
We
have
been
working
on
this
project,
I've
been
here
as
City
Manager.
For
ten
years
there
was
at
least
five
or
ten
years
of
community
discussions
about
the
project.
Prior
to
my
arrival,
we've
had
lots
of
numbers
thrown
around.
Why
don't
you
start
with?
What's
the
current
project
budget,
how
we
get
to
that
project
budget?
How
do
we
assure
that
we're
no
we're
not
going
to
leave
that
I?
A
B
The
current
cost
of
the
project,
the
overall
project,
including
engineering,
construction,
buying
furniture,
everything
that
goes
into
making
a
new
Park
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
is
actually
around
53
million
dollars.
That
includes,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
money.
That's
actually
already
been
spent
on
engineering
and
other
things.
There
was
a
fundraising
help
that
we
did
for
a
while,
and
so
we
are
right
in
target
for
coming
in
at
that
53
million
dollar
level.
Now
that
includes
3.2
million
dollars
of
engineering
and
47
million
dollar
construction
contract
with
bullying
and
rest.
So.
A
B
Went
through
a
different
process,
we
used
a
request
for
proposal
in
order
to
get
to
where
we
are
today.
Part
of
the
reason
we
did.
That
is
when
we
do
our
normal
process
of
hiring
a
contractor.
We
get
a
low
bid
and
we
are
obligated
by
state
procurement
laws
to
accept
that
bid.
As
long
as
that
contractor
has
met
a
minimum
amount
of
qualifications.
B
Rober
crown
is
a
very
large
project
with
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
and
our
concern
was
if
we
went
with
that,
it
is
not
uncommon
for
us
to
have
several
problems
on
every
single
construction
project
we
deal
with
just
because
the
contractor
and
preparing
the
low
bid
in
order
to
get
the
work
has
already
cut
corners
prior
to
even
starting
work
on
the
site.
We
didn't
want
to
be
in
that
situation.
This
is
a
building,
that's
going
to
last
a
very
long
time.
B
It's
built
on
a
tricky
site
in
the
middle
of
a
residential
area,
and
we
wanted
to
build
it
with
as
low
impact
to
the
residents
as
we
possibly
could.
We
also
have
a
number
of
city
programs
that
were
important
to
us
to
incorporate
making
sure
that
we
could
hire
Evanston
residents
and
local
businesses
to
participate
in
the
project,
and
for
that
we
felt
like
we
really
needed
to
have
a
contractor
that
could
demonstrate
they're,
not
minimum
qualifications,
but
they
were
highly
qualified
to
do
this
kind
of
work
in
this
kind
of
construction.
B
So
we
went
out
with
a
very
minimum
design,
almost
what
would
be
considered
a
schematic
where
we
sort
of
just
put
bubbles
on
a
plan
site
and
said:
here's
where
we
want
a
building
to
be
here's
where
we
want
the
site
to
be,
and
we
had
some
narrative
description
of
how
the
building
was
going
to
be
constructed.
What
kind
of
materials
were
going
to
be
used,
but
it
was
a
very
general
discussion
of
what
this
building
would
look
like,
and
we
received
nine
proposals
from
contractors
that
really
demonstrated
what
their
qualifications
were.
B
The
proposals
varied
wildly
in
terms
of
how
the
contractors
looked
in
their
capability
to
participate,
but
we
received
five
very
good
proposals.
We
move
forward.
We
had
interviews
with
those
contractors,
we
really
grilled
them
on
how
they
build
a
project.
How
do
they
hire
people
what's
involved
in
it?
What
other
projects
have
they
done?
What
experience
do
they
bring
to
the
table
and
from
there
we
selected
boolean
Andrews
as
a
contractor
that
the
city
has
worked
with
in
the
past
that
northwestern
has
worked
with
in
the
past.
B
B
If
you
look
at
Northwestern,
they
are
an
agency
that
the
lot
of
residents
in
town
are
not
overly
fond
of,
but
northwestern
has
built
a
lot
of
buildings
in
recent
years
and
they've
stuck
to
some
very
tight
budgets
and
so
working
with
boolean
Andrews.
There
was
an
example
right
in
town
of
a
project
that
was
highly
complex,
that
they
had
done
recently
for
Northwestern
and
they
kept
to
the
budget,
but
not
just
that
project.
They
demonstrated
multiple
projects
and
provided
references
for
many
different
organizations.
They'd
worked
with
to
provide
this
kind
of
service
so.
A
Building
under
way,
buildings
being
constructed
he's
just
as
conscious,
you
know
how
we
got
to
that
point
and
how
we
move
forward.
So,
let's
kind
of
turn
back
at
the
clock,
we've
been
talking
about
this
project
for
a
long
time.
There
are
the
many
dollar
amounts
bandied
about.
What
the
project
would
be,
what
was
kind
of
the
first
dollar
amount.
You
think
that
was
was
was
discussed
publicly
for
the
cost
of
this
project.
The.
B
Project's
been
discussed
so
long,
it's
hard
to
pick
where
we
got
really
serious
and
we
got
right
to
the
point
of
what
we're
doing
today.
However,
in
the
2011
to
2014
and
15
time
period,
the
the
mayor
at
that
time,
married
Elizabeth
Tisdale
and
the
alderman
really
settled
on
a
goal
of
30
million
dollars
that
they
felt
this
was
the
goal
they
would
try
to
construct
this
facility.
For
now
this
wasn't
a
price
that
was
based
on
estimates.
B
B
We
actually
went
forward
with
hiring
an
architect
through
late
2016
and
early
2017,
and
in
2017
around
July,
the
architect,
issued
a
cost
estimate
for
the
project
after
they'd
had
many
group
meetings
with
stakeholders,
including
aldermen,
really
determined
what
the
community
needs
were
and
what
we
were
going
to
include
in
this
facility.
In
that
2017
costume
estimate,
we
were
up
to
46
million
dollars.
So
at
that
point.
A
And
then
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
the
46
million.
Then
the
project
started
to
look
like
the
project
that
we
actually
have
under
construction.
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
sheets
of
ice,
where
we're
gonna
have
two
full
sheets
of
ice,
where
we
can
have
a
sheet
in
half
like
we
currently
have.
What
kind
of
multi-purpose
rooms
would
there
be
the
size
of
the
gym?
So
all
of
those
things
started
to
finally
shake
out
with
that
estimate
that
you
just
matching
absolutely.
B
At
that
point,
we
were
really
trying
to
define
exactly
what
facilities
were
going
in,
but
what
it
also
happened
is
we
had
gone
from
only
looking
at
a
building
a
building
that
was
to
be
really
something
all-encompassing
and
useful
to
the
residents
of
Evanston,
but
not
looking
at
the
site
and
Robert
Crown
is
actually
a
lot
more
than
just
a
building.
There
are
a
number
of
sports
that
are
played
there
and
the
current
iteration.
B
We
have
tennis,
we
have
soccer,
we
have
football,
we
have
baseball
and
softball
all
played
on
that
site,
but
those
facilities
because
of
the
way
we
are
going
to
be
constructing
the
building
and
also
because
they
had
deteriorated
a
lot
and
we're
no
longer
meeting
the
needs
of
the
residents
of
Evanston.
It
was
decided
that
the
whole
park
would
be
addressed
as
part
of
this
project,
and
so
we
really
began
to
look
at
the
exterior
of
the
site
and
start
to
finalize
some
of
those
details.
A
B
Are
issues
with
the
site?
Some
of
these
were
known,
but
the
extent
of
them
were
not
known,
and
one
of
our
big
issues
is
the
soil
on
the
site
is
very
poor
bearing
capacity
it's
a
type
of
clay
that
is
really
difficult
to
build
anything
on
you're,
going
to
see
settlement
over
long
term
and
also
it
simply
does
not
drain
water.
It
holds
water
and
one
of
the
issues
we
have
on
the
current
Robert
Crumb
site
is
that
the
fields
flood
and
then
they
stay
flooded.
So
we
were
really
beginning
to
wrestle
with.
B
A
B
Was
a
little
bit
of
an
intermediate
step
in
that
we
hired
the
construction
manager,
bullyin
Andrews
and
they
began
to
price
out
the
project.
Oh,
let
me
go
back
when
we
went
to
hire
the
construction
manager.
We
had
given
a
number
of
construction
companies,
our
schematic
designs
and
a
discussion.
What
was
going
to
be
included
in
the
site
and
on
and
in
the
building
and
those
construction
managers
in
their
proposals
gave
us
a
price
of
what
they
thought
it
would
cost
to
construct.
Now
they
had
a
fraction
of
the
information.
B
There
were
no
detailed
plans
drawn,
we
hadn't
picked
floor,
finishes
or
determined
what
kind
of
equipment
was
going
to
be
in
the
building?
We
hadn't
even
fully
determined
how
the
extent
of
the
artificial
turf
fields
that
were
going
to
be
on
the
site,
but
they
came
back
with
a
number,
an
average
number
of
around
48
million
dollars.
So
we
already
knew
that
our
43
million,
or
46
million
dollar
figure
was
maybe
not
as
ideal
as
we
hoped.
B
We
were
getting
an
indication
that
things
were
going
to
be
more
expensive
than
we
would
have
preferred,
but
we
knew
that
if
we
were
going
to
build
a
facility
in
today's
construction
world
dealing
with
the
unsuitable
soils
dealing
with
the
needs
of
a
wide
variety
of
residents,
that
these
were
the
numbers
we
were
going
to
have
to
face.
And.
A
B
We
went
forward
with
boolean
Andrews.
Their
first
assignment
was
to
actually
take
our
drawings
and
develop
detailed
cost
estimates
of
exactly
what
was
going
to
be
built
and
based
on
working
with
subs
actually
getting
numbers.
But
now,
at
this
point
we
really
had
detailed
soil
information.
They
began
to
look
closely
at
how
to
value
engineer
the
Foundation's.
B
There
were
draft
numbers
that
actually
came
in
higher
than
what
ultimately
was
determined
to
be
a
overall
53
million
dollar
project,
but
through
evaluation,
a
value
engineering
process.
We
were
able
to
come
up
with
better,
more
appropriate
ways
of
dealing
with
our
stormwater
looking
at
how
we
can
put
in
foundations
on
what's
a
very
challenging
site,
also
dealing
with
some
regulations
that,
as
we
were,
really
bringing
a
lot
of
engineering
firms
on
or
as
sub
consultants
to
do,
detail
design.
B
We
were
finding
that
there
were
some
interpretations
and
things
like
storm
water
regulations
that
the
Metropolitan
Water
Reclamation
District
has
that
were
increasing
the
size
of
storm
water
detention.
Far
beyond
what
we
expected,
we
would
need.
So
as
we
did
the
final
cost
estimate
prior
to
getting
a
guaranteed
maximum
price.
It
was
coming
in
at
53
million
dollars,
but
it
was
incorporating
a
lot
of
additional
information
that
was
getting
filled
in
as
we
were
doing
detailed
design.
So.
A
We
have
a
price
anybody
move
forward
with
price
now
attetion
and
Erica.
We
got
to
pay
for
it.
Maybe
it's
worth
just
taking
a
minute
to
talk
about
how
these
kinds
of
projects
are
generally
funded
in
the
past.
So
we've
done
a
large
library.
Probably
was
the
last
project
we
did.
My
understanding.
Is
we
just
at
that
point
just
issued
debt
and
paid
for
it?
Is
that
correct?
That's
my.
A
So
we
didn't
have,
there
was
some
fundraising
that
was
done,
but
there
was
not
a
significant
amount
of
fundraising.
There
wasn't
a
public-private
partnership,
so
it's
a
normal
thing
that
when
we're
building
a
building
regardless
of
the
size
and
magnitude
that
that's
something
that
just
comes
from
the
general
tax
dollars
of
this
city
or
any
city
record.
So
when
we're
looking
at
this
project
only
we
start
with
you
Erika
and
figuring
out
how
to
pay
for
what
were
what
were
the
first
steps
to
do?
We
try
to
find
a
community
partner.
A
C
So
before
the
city
embarked
on
this
project
on
its
own,
there
was
an
effort
to
try
to
go
out
and
get
a
public-private
partnership
right
where
we
were
seeing.
If
there
was
an
operator
out
there
who
could
build
the
facility
and
operate
it
in
conjunction
with
the
city.
The
city
went
through
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort
to
go
down
that
road
and
see
if
that
would
be
beneficial
to
the
residents
of
Evanston
and
ultimately,
it
was
found
that
it
wasn't
economically
viable.
C
So
at
that
point
everybody
returned
to
the
drawing
board
and
said:
that's
not
gonna
work.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
different
way
to
do
things
and
that's
kind
of
where
the
this
idea
came
to
see
if
there
was
community
support
that
would
be
able
to
fill
in
the
gap.
So
the
city
decided
to
hire
a
fundraising
consultant
to
determine
if
there
was
capacity
within
the
community
to
fundraise
enough
to
support
operation,
building
and
construction
of
a
new
Center.
C
So
at
that
point
in
time
the
city
hired
CCS
fundraising
they
did
a
market
study
determined
that
there
was
some
capacity
and
at
that
point
in
time
they
thought
that
the
community
could
raise
anywhere
between
three
and
four
million
dollars
that
could
go
towards
the
project.
So
at
that
point
the
city
proceeded
with
a
contract
with
them
to
work
directly
with
the
newly
created
501c3,
the
Friends
of
Robert
Crown,
so
that
in
conjunction
they
could
try
to
raise
money
for
the
center.
So.
A
C
But
when
you
have
an
entity
like
the
levy,
Center
Foundation
or
the
Friends
of
the
parks,
or
in
this
case
the
friends
robert
crown,
that
entity
is
really
able
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
talk
about
the
reasons.
This
project
is
beneficial
of
the
community.
What
types
of
opportunities
there
might
be
and
for
naming
rights
and
things
like
that
and
do
basically
a
a
fundraising
effort
that
can
supplement
what
the
city
would
also
be
paying
for
this
project.
C
A
And
and
and
the
fundraiser
that
the
city
hired
really
was,
then
what
people
were
interested
in
directing
its
money
to
this
project
directed
to
the
friends
proper
crowns?
And
there
was
never?
There
was
never
this
well.
The
fundraiser
was
going
to
have
the
money
come
to
the
city.
The
city
was
using
here,
has
been
using
the
Friends
of
Robert
count
as
sort
of
an
agent
on
our
behalf.
A
Then,
since
then,
the
friends
have
either
been
doing
their
own
fundraising
or
the
or
the
agreements
the
interest
that
was
developed
has
been
going
through
the
friends
correct.
So
where
is
the
friends
with
their
fundraising?
There
have
been
discussion
about
an
agreement
with
the
friends.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
Can
you
talk
about
where
we
are
with
some
of
the
other
agreements
that
that
we're
having
with
individuals
in
with
groups
sure.
C
So
the
Friends
of
rubber
crown
and
the
city
has
signed
an
MoU
Memorandum
of
Understanding,
basically
a
bid
that
establishes
guidelines
for
how
the
Friends
will
pursue
continued
pursuit
of
fundraising.
It's
our
hope
and
aspiration
that
the
Friends
will
continue
to
flourish
as
a
fundraising
entity
for
decades
to
come,
I
mean
this
Center
will
have
maintenance
needs
over
time,
and
any
additional
support
that
the
community
can
suppress
provide
would
be
absolutely
appreciated.
A
And
we
have
good
examples
of
that.
You've
already
mentioned
the
levy
Senior
Center
foundation.
They
have
continued
to
provide
support
on
an
annual
basis
for
the
levy
Center,
the
innocent
of
our
mental
associations,
same
thing
where
they
raise
money
for
the
ecology
center
of
the
Noyes
Tennis
Association
raises
money
through
their
rent
and
other
payments
to
support
noise.
So
this
is
not
an
unusual
thing,
not
every
Center.
We
have
has
this,
of
course,
but
this
is
certainly
not
unusual.
Is
it
no.
C
Not
unusual
at
all,
fairly
common,
especially
in
our
city
and
in
other
cities
across
the
nation,
and
because
of
the
support
that
the
Friends
of
crown
were
some
people
to
provide
in
terms
of
the
fundraising
right
now,
they're
at
a
little
over
12
and
half
million
dollars,
with
the
goal
of
15
million
that
drastically
reduces
the
amount
of
the
project
cost
that
will
directly
impact
the
taxpayers
of
Evanston.
So
so.
A
We're
looking
again
12
to
15
million
dollars
coming
from
the
friends,
there's
still
a
delta
there,
and
so
I
think
that
takes
us
to
attach
this
I,
our
chief
financial
officer,
okay,
it's
Hesh
was
the
private.
Fundraising
is
a
good
thing,
but
we
need
additional
dollars.
We
need
them
upfront.
We
went
to
the
bond
market.
Why
don't
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we've
gone
to
the
bond
market?
D
D
Absolutely
so,
yes,
when
we
issued
the
bonds
in
2018.
Obviously
this
was
issued
as
a
501,
C,
3
and
Erica
touched
on
that
that
why
we
had
to
issue
501
C
3
pounds,
because
some
of
those
entities
we're
getting
something
in
return
for
the
donations
they
were
giving
to
the
Friends
of
the
Robert
Quran.
Okay.
So.
A
That's
that's
an
important
point,
so
there's
different
ways:
I
mean
it's
Pelican
issue
bonds.
It
can
issue
them
as
a
501.
Excuse
me
C
3,
and
we
did
that
because
it
was
not
just
a
pure
donation
that
folks
are
getting
something
in
return
and
and
erica
details
in
our
first
segment.
I
think
pretty
specifically
what
some
of
these
organs
that
what
would
all
the
organizations
that
we
have
been
talking
with
our
getting
back
return?
So
I
don't
want
to
interrupt,
but
I
think
that's
an
important
point.
Absolutely.
D
And
so
that's
why
we
had
a
tephra
hearing
which
is
required
under
the
IRS
rules
whenever
you
issue
the
501
C
3,
so
that
gives
the
residents
and
opportunity
you
know
to
express
their
concerns
and
the
city
and
gets
an
opportunity
to
why
we
are
going
through
this
rock
yeah.
Well,
was
this
again?
This
was
the
bonds
were
issued
last
year
in
August
of
2018
and
based
on
the
advice
of
our
we
had
the
band
counselor.
We
went
with
the
tephra
hearing
it
well,
the
council
adapted
the
bonds
ordinance.
D
You
know
to
issue
the
25
million
dollar
here
the
project
one
after
we
looked
at
it.
We
sat
down
with
a
Lara's
team.
You
know
the
how
the
construction
is
going,
talk
to
Erica,
how
the
fundraising
going
from
the
friends
at
Robert,
and
we
decided
that
we
might
need
around
15
million
dollar
bond
issue
for
this
year.
So
later
this
month
we
have
a
closing
of
the
bonds
on
16th
of
May
I'm.
D
A
The
approval
that
came
in
2018,
the
council
had
what's
known
as
a
temper
hearing
exempt
financing
hearing
the
first
issue
of
bonds
in
2018.
The
second
issue,
bonds
of
2019
did
that
then
generate
enough
revenue
through
those
two
bond
issues
to
pay
the
bills
that
that
Lara
and
her
team
are
racking
up
as
a.
A
A
Because,
in
addition
to
the
construction,
we're
also
going
to
be
doing
furniture
fixtures
equipment
costs,
we
bought
a
Zamboni
not
too
long
ago.
So
those
are
additional
costs.
So
we've
got
the
money
that
we've
issued
through
debt
in
a
bucket
and
we're
paying
off
the
costs
for
the
construction
of
the
building
and
then
the
demolition
of
the
existing
building
and
then
ultimately,
the
construction
of
the
fields.
So
then
we'll
open
it.
Everyone
will
be
happy
of
your
beautiful
wonderful
facility,
but
the
real
question,
then,
is:
how
do
we
pay
for
it
so
attached?
Why
don't?
A
D
D
December,
1st
2019,
we
have
a
first
interest
payment
on
the
last
year's
bond,
which
we
issued
in
2018
of
around
nine
hundred
ninety
eight
thousand
okay
and
then
for
the
next
few
years
for
the
eighteen
months.
The
amount
remains
the
same
and
for
2019,
but
these
are
the
estimated
numbers
since
we
haven't
sold
the
bonds.
Yet
the
payment
would
be
around
six
hundred
sixty
four
thousand
okay.
A
D
C
D
I
mean
as
a
part
of
the
budget
process.
The
council
went
through
the
various
options
and
we
looked
at
the
thing
too,
and
we
had
some
raise
in
the
property
tax
which
would
cover
this
rabbit
crown,
as
well
as
to
recapture
the
washington
national
teeth
which
expired
in
18.
So
we
would
have
enough
money
in
with
us
in
our
for
the
payment
of
debt
service
due
December,
1st
2019.
So.
A
D
Six
hundred
sixty
thousand
and
then
again
as
we
get
into
the
2022,
that's
when
the
principal
amount
starts
for
both
the
bond
Series,
2018
and
2019
a
and
which
would
be
another
million
dollars.
So
if
you
look
at
the
most
live
averaged
annual
deaths,
are
we
starting
2022
would
be
around
2.6
billion?
Okay,
so.
A
A
2021,
then,
is
when
we
start
playing
paying
principal,
correct,
no
2022,
okay,
so
on
26,
so
2021,
no
change,
no!
So
1.6
million
in
20
and
one
point
six
million
in
2021,
then
in
2022
we
start
paying
principal
that's
another
million
dollars
gonna,
which
will
take
it
to
2.6
million
dollars
and
that
stays
steady
for
about
how
many
years
probably.
A
C
As
Tesh
said
d,
the
additional
money
is
it's
one
point:
six
we've
allocated
the
Friends
of
crown
donations
in
two
ways:
we've
taken
six
million
dollars
of
the
15
million
that
they're
raising
and
put
it
directly
towards
construction.
So
five
million
of
that
will
receive
in
the
next
month
directly
towards
construction
will
receive
another
million
next
year
directly
towards
construction.
But
then
we
have
nine
million
dollars
that
we
can
apply
towards
the
debt.
C
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
apply
those
payments,
starting
in
2022
2028,
to
smooth
the
payments
over
time,
so
that
that
1.6
million
that
you
referred
to
stays
the
same
until
2029,
which
one
will
see
where
our
next
jump-
okay,
so
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
from
crap
Friends
of
Crown
for
approximately
nine
years
keeps
the
payment
the
same
basically
from
2020
to
2029.
When
we
go
up
to
two
point,
seven.
D
A
Idea,
okay,
so
you're
saying
that
once
we
get
to
one
point,
six
that
we'll
be
able
to
leverage
the
crown
dollars
to
keep
the
the
general
fund.
Let's
say
portion
of
this
at
that
one
points
extract
okay,
so
the
council
could
make
other
decisions
we
can't
preach.
Some
predisposed
put
it
suppose
that
we
will
have
to
get
the
million
dollars
from
somewhere
and
we
feel
confident
that
for
that
initial
period
we
can
have
that
million
dollars
come
from
the
Friends
of
crown
donations,
correct.
Okay.
So
where
do
we
get
the
money
attached?
You
know.
A
D
Council
could
consider
the
other
options
too.
Besides
the
property
tax
mean
we
have
a
strong
other
major
revenues
like
sales
tax
income
tax,
the
other
home
rule
tax
revenues
like
athletic
tax
and
amusement
tax
on
the
liquor
tax.
So
we
are
Mill.
City
has
option
to
consider.
You
know
whether
to
use
any
of
those
revenues
or
dedicate
the
revenue
stream
for
the
payment
of
the
rabbit
crown
or
just
go
with
the
property
tax
or
any
combination
of
the
same
or
we
could
cut
expenses.
A
So
let's
say
the
council
just
wanted
to
say:
okay
property
tax,
we're
just
going
to
deal
we're
not
going
to
deal
with
anything
else,
you've
just
described.
We
just
want
to
do
property
tax.
What
kind
of
increase
would
be
required
on
our
share
of
the
property
tax,
which
is
without
the
reassessment?
What
is
the
seventeen
eighteen
percent
range
of
the
entire
so
for
every
dollar
that
a
resident
of
Evanston
pays
on
property
tax,
but
seventeen
cents?
Eighteen
right.
D
A
D
Add
the
other
pieces
to
the
library
general
assistance.
Then
it
comes
close
to
20
percent,
okay,
so
but
yeah.
If
you
look
at
it
like
20
18
levy,
which
was
around
$1,000,000,
which
we
are
going
to
pay
in
December,
that
resulted
in
like
a
1.98
percent
increase
to
the
property
tax
in
2019.
We
would
add
another
six
hundred
thousand,
as
I
said,
so
that
would
be
around
1.3
one
percent.
Okay,.
A
A
A
Percent
increase
on
16
percent,
correct,
okay,
so
that's,
but
the
council
could
say
we're
going
to
raise
other
fees
or
charges
we're
going
to
cut
expenses.
That's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That
decision
has
not
yet
been
made
our
job,
my
job
as
a
city
manager
just
present
a
budget,
that's
balanced!
We
have
no
choice.
We
have
sometimes
have
deficits
going
into
a
budget
process,
but
by
the
end
of
the
budget
process
we
have
a
balanced
budget.
So
it's
$600,000
for
2020,
it's
six!
A
If
we
find
that
there's
no
change
in
21
correct,
you
know
what
and
then
in
22
and
Beyond.
Our
plan
would
be
to
use
some
of
the
robber
crown
friends,
Robert
Kahn
dollars
to
level
that
that
final
million
dollar
increase.
That
we
would
need
to
have
is
that
correct
next
you're,
all
on
the
same
page.
So
we
have
a
plan.
It's
a
matter
of
working
with
the
City
Council
over
the
course
of
the
next.
Several
years
is
through
the
annual
budgeting
process
to
decide
what
makes
the
most
sense
last
piece
of
the
money.
A
I
think
is
operations
costs.
So
we
have
a
group
of
staff
that
are
operating
the
existing
robber
crown
all
those
folks
move
across
the
parking
lot.
So
to
speak
when
the
when
the
new
building
is
done,
Erica
have
we
done
any
kind
of
estimations
what
it
would
might
be,
what
additional
costs
for
operation
they'll
be.
Yes,.
C
We
have
so
we've
been
going
through
the
numbers
trying
to
project
out
our
future
revenues.
So,
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
the
new
center
is
roughly
twice
the
size
of
the
existing
center,
so
it
will
require
additional
staff
to
operate,
but
with
that
additional
staff
and
having
that
much
more
square
footage,
there
will
be
additional
revenues
to
accompany
it.
So,
right
now
we're
looking
at
the
center
bringing
in
an
additional
1
million
dollars
annually
in
revenues
and
where.
C
Rentals
of
the
gymnasium,
the
ice
rinks.
Certainly
it's
easier
to
sell
a
full
sheet
of
ice
for
an
hour
than
it
is
to
sell
a
half
a
sheet.
There's
more
demand
for
that.
That's
where
the
market
is
right
now,
so
that's
part
of
it
and
then
we're
able
to
expand
the
preschool
programming.
So
there'll
be
an
additional
classroom
space
every
day
for
an
additional
preschool
room,
and
then
you
know.
Of
course
we
have
a
lot
of
revenue
that
comes
from
summer
camps,
programs,
classes,
arts,
gymnastics
so.
C
C
There
were
some
of
those
people
we
may
need
to
add
on
towards
the
end
of
this
year,
so
that
they
can
learn
how
to
operate
the
rupture,
and
this
is
a
very
complex
building.
There's
a
lot
of
mechanical
parts
and
having
this
staff
that
are
getting
on
board
earlier
and
watching
the
center
finish
being
constructed.
Hope
will
help
them
be
able
to
know
where
everything
is
to
operate
it
properly.
A
A
B
I
think
there
are
really
two
reasons
for
it.
One
is
that
there
really
are
some
sight
challenges
and
there's
some
economic
challenges.
Construction
is
booming
right
now
it's
been
booming
for
years,
and
so
costs
have
gone
up
over
time
that
thirty
million
dollar
number
has
been
out
there
for
five
to
eight
years.
At
this
point,
and
things
have
just
gotten
more
expensive
to
build,
but
I
think
the
other
part
is
when
we
went
into
the
community-
and
we
said
what
are
the
the
needs
of
the
community
it
turned
out.
B
There
were
some
very
serious
needs
that
were
not
being
met.
A
basic
one
which
may
or
may
not
have
had
a
big
impact
on
the
cost
is
making
sure
that
the
new
Robert
Crown
Center
is
just
fully
ADA
accessible
that
the
programs
can
be
inclusive
to
people
that
have
mobility
issues.
That
was
a
really
big
change
over
what
was
originally
talked
about
with
the
project.
That
might
just
be
a
small
cost
to
incorporate,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
needs
and
demands
and
I
think
that
we
look
back
five
years
from
now.
B
A
A
Hundred
thirty
five
million
dollars
general
fund
about
one
hundred
and
fifteen
million
right
I
joked
about
double
county
pensions,
I
think
it's
important
people
understand
that
yeah.
That's
an
accounting
issue,
we're
not
paying
twice
and
mo.
We
have
to
account
for
it
in
two
places,
so
our
general
fund
went
up
significantly
a
few
years
back
when
we
had
a
started,
my
accounting
pension.
So
there's
a
lot
of
wherewithal
in
this
community.
We
receive
revenue
from
all
types
of
sources.
As
a
home
rural
community.
A
In
Illinois
we
have
the
ability
to
tax
and
have
tax
to
a
whole
variety
of
things.
We've
baked
in
a
million
dollars,
I
mean
I'd
in
my
30
years
of
working
I've
never
had,
and
one
budget
had
to
find
a
million
dollars.
Just
to
put
it
if
you
had
ever
do
anything
like
that,
and
so
you
know
that
we
were
able
to
do
that
with
some
pain.
D
You're
sending
me
now,
I'm
bothered
is
looking
at
the
strong
tax
revenue
base
and
even
some
of
those
potential
expense
reductions.
So
the
way
we
did
it
and
obviously
we
can
talk
about
even
adding
1.5
million
towards
the
reserve
well
in
general,
for
yeah.
So
obviously
we
have
that
kind
of
cushion
so
definitely
a.
We
can
take
six
hundred
thousand
and
provide
for
that
in
the
upcoming
budget.
Right
with.
A
It's
still
rather
small,
so
I
think
we
work
hard
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
the
budget
is
as
small
as
a
can
be
for
the
city
and
I
think
the
council
has
been
extraordinarily
responsible
and
looking
at
both
revenues
and
expenses,
but
I
think
the
orders
of
magnitude
we're
talking
about
is
not
gonna
lead
to.
You
know
massive
changes
in
how
we
we
operate,
the
city
of
Evanston
right.
A
And
me
and
I,
we
think
of
the
the
capital
projects
that
the
city
is
committed
to
over,
let's
just
say
the
last
20
25
years.
Certainly
the
new
main
library
comes
to
mind
is
a
significant
project.
We've
invested
a
lot
of
money
on
the
lakefront.
That
was
what
now,
seven
or
eight
years
ago,
that
we
invested
a
lot
of
money
of
infrastructure
on
the
lakefront.
We
continue
to
make
investments
in
existing
facilities.
The
the
general
capital
program
general
fund
capital
program
is
what
approximately
every
year.
B
A
A
Once
all
is
done
and
I
think
the
revenue
raising
we
haven't
even
talked
about
the
money
that's
been
set
aside
for
a
maintenance
fund,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
we've
had
with
our
facilities
over
time
and
Laura
you
deal
with
this
every
day
is
the
amount
of
money
that
we
need
to
maintain
buildings.
We
look
at
the
Civic
Center.
We
look
at
the
fire
stations,
we
look
at
police
fire
headquarters,
the
other
community
centers.
B
I
think
one
thing
that
really
has
gotten
lost
in
the
discussion
is
because
we've
discussed
doing
something
at
robber
crown
for
so
many
years
decades.
At
this
point,
we
have
not
invested
any
significant
capital
dollars,
in
crown,
since
at
least
2000,
maybe
earlier
so
during
that
time
period,
we've
invested
millions
in
each
of
our
other
facilities.
It's
seems
like
a
big-ticket
item
all
at
once,
but
had
we
been
able
to
do
these
investments
over
time?
It
still
would
have
been
the
same
amount
and
you
would
not
have
ended
up
with
this
brand
new
center.
A
Thank
you,
I
think.
We've
had
a
very
full
discussion
attached
aside
that
the
city's
chief
financial
officer,
Lara
Biggs,
the
city
engineer,
Erik
Estrada,
the
assistant
city
manager.
It's
our
hope
that
these
segments
talking
about
operations
talking
about
financing
and
taking
a
tour
of
the
facility
kind
of
helps
better
understand
that
the
challenges
we're
facing
with
our
robber
crown
Center.
Thank
you
all.
Thanks
to
Karen
Danzig
Lyons
at
Lauren's
Hemingway
who
joined
us
earlier,
I'm
lollipop,
quits,
the
city
manager.
Thank
you.