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A
Good
evening
this
is
the
regular
meeting
of
the
rules
committee
for
Monday
July,
6
2015.
We
do
have
a
quorum,
we
have
citizens
comments,
we
have
one
citizens
was
signed
up
mr.
risky.
B
Jeanette
risky
I
missed
the
last
rules.
Committee
I
understand
I
looked
at
the
minutes
and
there
was
a
criteria
to
evaluate
mr.
babka
wits.
Last
year
the
mayor
made
a
suggestion
that
he
was
an
a-plus
performer,
given
that's
not
a
standard
if
even
the
evaluation
process
I'm
a
little
unclear
what
that
meant.
But
basically
my
position
is
mr.
Bob
quits
meets
his
expectations.
That
is
his
performances
at
an
average
level
at
best
because
he's
not
necessarily
achieving
every
goal
in
every
item.
B
If
he
was
exceeding
everything
in
every
goal
in
every
item,
then
yes,
he
would
exceed
performance
standards,
but
I
don't
feel
that
that
is
the
case.
Of
course,
his
ability
to
really
meet
exceed
expectations
is
tied
into
this
council
and
the
mayor,
and
that
really,
that
is
your
inability
to
give
him
proper
direction,
and
that
is
a
problem.
Let's
just
talk
about
a
few
of
the
goals
here,
the
one
go
live,
there's
water
and
sewer,
which
is
most
of
you
know,
I've
been
talking
about
for
quite
some
time.
B
He
has
not
been
able
to
basically
tell
the
public
this
situation
of
that
department
financially
and
no
notes
in
the
last
two
years.
He
has
not
really
come
out
and
said
how
its
operating,
yet
this
city
has
gone
forward
to
try
to
create
contracts
which
I
think
basically
we're
going
to
end
up
with
contracts.
Isn't
it
a
mess
like
we
had
before
so
frankly,
that's
a
problem
and
I
think
the
council's
needs
to
basically
be
held
accountable
for
that
to
an
economic
development.
What
is
the
standard
really
for
economic
development
here?
B
What
return
do
we
have
on
investment
for
all
these
different
things,
we're
losing
money
on?
Some
of
them
have
gone
belly
up.
Basically,
so
if
we
took
economic
development
as
a
total,
are
we
making
any
money
on
any
of
the
us
and
given
the
number
of
staff
and
all
the
people
involved
and
what's
going
on
here?
What
are
we
making
any
money,
because
I
talked
to
other
citizens
to
tell
me
they're,
calling
the
city
the
city
to
tell
them
it
on
money
to
do
things,
and
those
are
simple
things.
B
So,
what's
really
going
on
here
with
our
money
and
is
how
it
much
in
the
red
really
is
economic
development,
I
filed
some
foils
recently
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
told
is
the
city
has
no
appraisal
for
the
recycling
center.
If
that
is
true,
then
we,
why
are
we
in
a
negotiation
process?
I
mean
I?
I
must
I
had
to
say
the
quality
of
some
of
the
foyers
I'm.
B
Getting
back
from
the
city
isn't
really
very
complete,
but
I
was
told
us
that
they
do
not
have
that
so
we're
in
a
process
of
negotiation
that
we
have
no
document
that
we
know
the
value
of
the
property.
That's
very
concerning
to
me,
and
also
when
I
look
at
something
like
that.
Could
that
have
been
used
for
recreational
purposes?
B
We
don't
need
another
brewery
that
building
is
a
recreational
building
and
could
be
used
you're
going
to
be
asking
for
money
for
robert
crown,
but
that
building
could
possibly
take
some
of
the
load
off
crown
and
make
it
smaller
as
a
taxpayer.
There's
really
a
misuse
of
money
here
and
that
really
goes
to
facilities,
which
was
one
of
the
other
goals.
What
happened
here?
Nobody
evaluated
Harley
Clark.
Nobody
did
anything
with
that.
B
There
was
nothing
but
to
sell
the
place
and
basically
what
I've
come
to
find
out
to
through
FOIAs
city
has
no
recreational
plan
here
for
its
facilities,
which
is
quite
disturbing
because,
frankly,
if
you're
planning
things,
you
know
your
load,
how
what
your
facilities
are
doing?
If
you
don't
know
you've
what
you
have
programs
for
these
facilities,
you
can't
tell
me
you
don't
need
a
facility
or
you
need
other
things
and
I've
talked
to
some
people
and
they
don't
hit
the
apartment
admits.
It
has
nothing.
B
That's
planning
any
of
this,
so
that's
a
problem
and
you're
going
off
to
build
a
very
expensive
facility,
and
you
don't
know
what
you're
doing
that's
pretty
this
pretty
troubling
as
a
taxpayer
and
really
finally,
I'll
just
leave
it
closed
with
this.
You
know:
Wally's
performance
is
tied
with
this
council.
The
council
needs
to
demand
that
he'd
do
certain
things.
If
he's
not
doing
those
things
you're
as
accountable
as
he
is
for
what's
happening
here
and
frankly,
this
is
a
problem
and
you
need
to
either
decide
when
things
are
on.
B
C
A
D
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
good
evening,
you
have
in
your
packet
of
communication
for
mr.
McCrea
outlining
the
current
program.
If
you
recall
it,
may
26
council
meeting
all
in
mendham
requested
that
the
process
for
the
honorary
street
names
I
and
be
programmed
be
referred
to
the
Rules
Committee
for
discussion.
Pacifically,
the
alderman
ask
the
committee
to
discuss
the
ability
of
aldermen
whose
words
are
outside
of
the
downtown
area
to
be
able
to
recommend
streets
of
the
downtown
area
be
named
in
honor
of
Ward
residents
and
those
with
close
involvement
in
the
downtown.
E
Thank
you
as
I
brought
this
forward.
I
I
do
think,
there's
a
need
to
expand
at
least
a
little
bit
the
the
flexibility
of
this
program
there.
You
know
there
seems
to
be
like
a
gridlock
when
it
comes
to
the
number
of
businesses
that
would
really
like
to
support
someone
that
is
contributed
greatly
to
the
city
nearby
their
business
and
since
most
of
the
are
major
businesses,
or
at
least
a
lot
of
them
are
in
the
downtown
area,
it
seems
appropriate
that
we
could
expand
a
little
bit
in
that
area.
F
Joel
McCrea,
director
of
parks,
rec
community
services
and
deputy
city
manager,
alderman
Kingdom,
the
memo
my
hope
is,
and
apologize
if
it
miss
communicate.
This
is
strictly
just
to
state
what
it
is
that
we've
been
doing
past
practice
wise
and
so
the.
If
you
look
at
the
ordinance,
the
ordinance
does
not
actually
silent
on
that
particular
issue
and
so
past
practice
at
least
what
I've
inherited
has
been.
Each
alderman
gets
to
approve
one
per
year,
and,
and
you
know
typically,
what
that
has
been
is
one
per
year
in
their
respective
war.
G
G
A
H
A
Good
Gus
for
the
recommendation.
The
alderman
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
committee
if
or
I've
been
to
the
process
several
times
and
I
know,
that's
probably
the
way
it
works
over
for
it,
but
I
think
all
the
man
tendons
point
about
downtown
where
businesses
would
be
and
and
very
not
that
many
residents
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
look
at.
Alma
rainy,
I,.
G
Think
there
are
tens
of
thousands
of
residents
in
the
downtown,
and
it's
oh
and
there's
lots
of
businesses.
Look
on
central
street
Howard
streets.
Getting
business
is
Main,
Street,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
almost
an
insult
to
other
alderman,
especially
those
who
are
intimidated
by
the
downtown
that
it's
being
singled
out
so
is
so
special
I.
Don't
think
it's
any
special
ler
than
any
other
ward,
so
I
I
really
object
to
this
I.
G
Don't
want
anybody
appointing
people
streets
in
my
ward,
unless
I
agree
and
I
know
I
approved
a
street
in
my
ward
that
the
mayor
recommended
and
I
was
happy
to
do
it
no
problem,
but
that
might
not
only
not
always
be
the
case
so
I
it's.
We
have
so
few
areas
where
we
have
the
authority
to
do
something
like
this
and
I.
Think
it's
a
very
special
thing.
I
think
I've
only
got
two
streets
of
my
wart
that
have
names
on
them
and
how
long
has
this
ordinance
been
in
a
foot
ten
years?
A
I
have
several
is
very
popular
in
my
community,
so
but
I
guess
I
have
a
different
opinion
in
terms
of
the
and
I
don't
care
if
it's
in
downtown
area
could
be
any
business
area.
If
there's
a
business
person,
this
recommend
and
that's
the
way
I'm
hearing
it.
You
would
want
to
approve
that.
Wouldn't
you
in
your
ward,
well,
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
tomatoes
could
make
a
recommendation.
Yeah
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
input.
I'm,
not
saying
I
want
to
say
no,
you
can't
do
it,
but
I
would
want
to
have
some
input.
I
I
certainly
think
it's
fair
for
anyone
to
make
a
suggestion
to
any
of
us.
As
far
as
his
location,
part
of
the
conversation
is
going
around
the
idea
of
businesses
and
I'm,
assuming
what
we're
not
talking
about
is
shifting
to
naming
streets
after
businesses.
That,
to
me
doesn't
seem
like
a
that's.
Not
what
you
mean
is:
okay,
all
right.
So.
I
It's
a
great
program
what
you
know:
I,
of
course,
I
have
part
of
the
downtown.
What
I'm,
not
particularly
interested
in
it,
is
having
you
know,
we'd
have
to
change
the
rule.
You
can't
just
have
won
an
award
because
if
six
other
alderman
wanted
to
name
it
street
in
my
ward,
you
know
each
year
that
I'm
looking
at
six
or
seven
and
I'm
going
to
run
out
of
blocks
really
fast.
So
there's
that
to
take
into
account
too
so
it
is
ultimate
Rainey
said
it
should
be
something
that's
particularly
special.
I
This
is
a
really
special
thing
and
my
personal
view-
and
everybody
else
might
have
a
different
view
about
things,
but
sometimes
I
think
it's
a
good
way
to
recognize
somebody
who
might
not
otherwise
be
recognized
in
the
community.
Maybe
it's
somebody
who
has
done
something
for
an
extended
period
of
time
quietly
and
it
made
an
impact
on
people,
but
you
know
isn't
out
there
in
the
forefront.
So
that's
my
own
view
of
kind
of
how
I
you
know
steer
my
support
of
some
of
these
things.
I
think
it's!
I
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
can
I
can
understand
the
reasoning
that
the
downtown
would
be
a
logical
place
to
offer
a
street
name
for
someone
who,
like
you
said,
alderman
Wilson,
had
contributed,
but
wasn't
necessarily
I,
don't
know
linked
or
affiliated
with
any
location
or
neighborhood
who
might
have
contributed
is
a
member
of
a
business
that
was
located
in
downtown
or
or
nonprofit
institution
that
maybe
isn't
so
linked
or
affiliated
with
a
particular
Street
or
a
block.
The
downtown
representative
of
our
central
core
would
be
a
logical
place
to
suggest
a
an
honorary
street
name.
J
I
think
the
honorary
street
names
I
think
are
nice
they're
temporary
in
the
beginning,
in
the
end,
they're
temporary,
because
their
own,
they
only
last
10
years,
so
they're
cyclical
things,
they
don't
stay
around
forever
and
they
are
in
that
moment
a
nice
honor
for
whoever
whoever's
name
is
going
up.
I
would
hope
that
there
would
be
some
deference
not
only
to
the
alderman
but
to
an
alderman
who
might
be
requesting
an
honor,
a
street
name
in
our
downtown,
knowing
that
our
downtown
belongs
to
everybody
with
consideration
to
too
many
requests.
H
H
I
think
we
know
folks
in
the
downtown
really
well
and
I
would
find
it
very
very
hard
to
exclude
someone
who
might
be
on
the
same
block
as
someone
else
and
who
might
want
an
honorary
street
name,
and
I
think
that's
that's
something
that
I've
talked
about
previously
is
how
do
we
recognize
the
small
business
people,
the
people
who
don't
necessarily
have
other
honors
or
other
accolades
given
to
them
the
real
unsung
heroes
of
evanston
and
for
businesses?
I
would
say
venison's
bakery
in
the
my
Hardware
they're
on
the
same
block.
H
How
do
you
distinguish
between
them?
I
I.
Also,
don't
think
that
that
there
is
a
very
easy
way
to
make
this
fair
and
I.
Think
some
of
you
who
don't
know
folks
in
the
downtown,
as
well
as
the
three
of
us
who
probably
know
everyone
in
the
downtown
around
all
the
businesses
in
the
downtown-
that's
something
that's
a
huge
concern
to
us
and
the
the
other
part
of
this
is
that
I
feel
very
uncomfortable
with
the
political,
political
ization
of
this
process.
And
I
don't
think
that
says
the
right
thing
for
us.
H
I'm
downtown
has
been
refreshingly
free
of
namings
and
citations.
I
mean
the
thing
that
we
have
our
banners
that
people
can
contribute
to
that
identify
businesses,
but
we've
stayed
away
from
what
Chicago
has
done,
which
is
basically
a
street
name
for
political
supporters
on
almost
every
single
corner
in
the
downtown
I
would
hate
to
see
us
go
that
way
in
my
ward,
I
have
a
specific
plan
and
idea
that
I
follow,
and
that
is
that
street
naming
should
be
for,
as
I
said,
the
unsung
heroes
of
Evanston.
H
These
are
people
who
aren't
going
to
have
receptions
who
aren't
going
to
get
awards.
Who
aren't
going
to
stand
up
here
and
get
a
plaque
who
are
but
who
have
given
day
by
day
for
the
years
that
they've
been
here
to
this
city,
to
make
the
city
a
better
place?
A
real
good
example
is
Jay's.
Barbershop
I
mean
that's.
It
was
an
excellent
thing
to
do.
H
That's
that's
something.
I
think
that
speaks
to
the
community
and
how
important
every
single
citizen
is
and
how
every
single
citizen
has
an
opportunity
every
day
to
make
a
contribution,
and
they
do
in
very
small
ways
and
that's
what
we
look
at
in
my
ward,
I'm,
not
interested
in
giving
awards
out
to
people
who
already
receive
who
already
receive
awards.
But
how
do
we
thank
those
people
that
really
are
the
heart
and
soul
of
Evanston
I?
Think
there
are
ways
of
and
I
think
Human
Services
has
been
looking
at
this.
H
There
are
ways
of
identifying
people
who
seek
these
awards
and
who
want
these
awards
and
maybe
who
deserve
these
awards
and
maybe
a
different
location
for
some
of
these
awards
are
appropriate.
I
mean
we
name
the
Civic
cetera
Lorraine
Morton.
That
was
a
wonderful
thing
to
do.
We
have
rooms
in
the
civic
center
that
we
can
name
after
political.
H
You
know,
predecessors,
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
gardens
and
playgrounds
and
and
other
other
locales
in
the
city
that
that
would
be
very
I,
don't
know
a
very
high
degree
of
both
recognition
and
community
and
community
spirit
and
I.
Just
don't
understand
why
we're
not
looking
at
that
and
I
what
I
would
like
to
do
and
not
what
I
thought
we
had
been
doing
pretty
well
at
Human
Services?
Is
that
we've
been
talking
about?
H
How
do
we
make
these
distinctions
between
individuals
and
maybe
political
figures
and
other
people,
historical
figures
who
or
organizations,
and
how
do
we
do
that
and
I
think
we
again
in
the
downtown
we've
done
that
pretty
well
with
plaques
and
they
seem
to
have
been
very
well
received
and
the
plaques
have
a
the
added
benefit
of
talking
about
the
individual
or
the
organization
that
is
being
honored.
Who's
drugstore
is
an
example.
H
I
am
more
than
happy
to
take
any
suggestions
from
anyone
for
an
honorary
street
name
in
my
ward,
in
this
particular
case
that
we're
talking
about
I
was
really
the
last
person
to
know
about
it.
So
I
didn't
really
a
phone
call
from
anybody,
and
now
here
we
are
at
the
Rules,
Committee
and
I
feel
that
that's
also
not
the
way
to
approach
things
and
I
think
this
has
been
poorly
handled
and
I'm.
E
You
I'd
like
to
move
an
amendment
to
the
existing
ordinance
that
allows
our
mayor
or
the
city
mayor
to
make
one
appointment
per
year.
The
marriage
seems
that
we've
sort
of
a
neglected,
an
important
person
on
this
council
and
that,
just
because
someone
becomes
mayor
should
not
be
excluded
from
this
process.
E
A
G
I
think
so,
first
of
all,
the
mayor
shouldn't
even
be
on
this
committee.
The
mayor
has
never
been
on
the
Rules
Committee.
It
was
only
at
a
very
soft
moment
that
some
of
us
were
so
enamored
by.
It
is
all
that
we
we
wanted
to
include
her
and
everything
cuz.
She
had
been
one
of
us
and
she
had
always
been
included
in
everything.
G
G
Second
of
all,
I
think
if
you
can
remember
just
remember
the
horrible
political
battle
that
was
going
on
when
neighbors
wanted
to
name
Haven
school
after
Lorraine
Morton
it
got
so
ugly.
There
were
the
pros
and
the
cons.
Then
we
had
the
idea
to
name
the
Civic
Center,
which
made
a
lot
more
sense.
I
mean
she
was
the
mayor
of
the
city
and
a
much-beloved
near
and
still
is
much
beloved
and
we
name
it,
and
I
think
that
meant
to
her
more
than
you
know
so
much
I
mean
I've
talked
her
about
it
several
times.
G
It
just
was
so
meaningful
to
her.
Now
we
can't
rename
she's
got
it,
but
we
can
do
things
like
for
the
case
we're
talking
about
and
we
you
know,
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
jay
vital,
a
former
mayor
and
aldermen,
but
I
think
it
would
be
very
wonderful
to
honor
him
as
far
as
the
city's
concern
by
naming
the
council
chambers,
the
jail
idle
council
chambers
and,
second
of
all,
I
think
the
plaque
is
fabulous.
Let
the
bank
put
a
big
old
black
on
the
outside
honoring
jail
for
his
service.
G
At
the
bank,
I
mean
they
started
that
bang.
That's
a
wonderful
thing
made
a
lot
of
people
rich,
including
him
and
and
people
going
by.
Like
you
say,
it's
it
it's
at
eye
level.
People
can
see
that
kind
of
thing
and
I
think
we
should
encourage,
and
maybe
the
bank's
already
planning
on
doing
that.
You
know
I
mean
anybody
can
refer
any
idea
to
any
of
us,
but
I
just
I
mean
imagine
the
mayor.
E
There
would
be
one
per
year
and
I
think
you're
an
example
about
Haven
school
is
a
perfect
example,
because
that
was
a
local
issue
that
had
the
ear
of
the
aldermen.
But
when
bigger
thinkers
got
involved,
it
became
something
that
the
entire
city
could
get
behind,
because
and
I
think.
That
is
the
viewpoint
that
the
mayor
would
have
with
regard
to
her
or
his
one
appointment
per
year.
G
But
but
the
idea
of
I
mean
it
was
a
controversy
that
was
my
point
not
where
it
was
or
how
it
was
resolved,
that
it
was
a
controversy
that
you
know
it
started
out
like
a
great
idea
and
then,
like
I,
think
this
is
started
out
like
a
great
idea,
but
I
think
it's
no
longer
a
great
idea
and
I
mean
we
have
several
areas:
I,
don't
even.
Why
is
England
part
name
ingram
park
I,
don't.
G
A
A
Yeah,
it's
just
like
that,
so
you
know
I
mean
and
we've
worked
at.
We
worked
it
out.
We
figured
out
a
way
in
which
to
do
it
and
I
think
that
that
is
the
the
beauty
of
us
working
together
as
a
council
to
figure
some
of
that
stuff
out.
But
I
have
five
lights.
I
have
ottoman
fist
augment
in
them
on
me:
mirta
stall,
Holloman,
Grover
and
ottoman
Miller
Solomon
fist.
Your
first
thank.
H
The
the
process
here
since
alderman
raining
mentioned
what
what
this
is
really
all
about.
The
process
here
was
pretty
clear
from
the
start.
This
was
a
request
made
by
the
bank
in
order
to
honor
jail
idol,
and
apparently
one
of
the
members
of
the
bank
spoke
to
end
mr.
city
manager.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
any
of
this,
but
last
January,
one
of
the
members
of
the
bank
spoke
to
the
city
manager,
will
explain
to
that
person
what
the
process
was
for
an
honorary
street
name
and
said
that
that
person
should
contact
me.
H
City
manager
also
called
me
up
and
told
me
to
expect
a
visit
from
this
person
at
the
bank
and
I
said
fine
months
and
months
and
months
and
months
went
by
and
I
heard
absolutely
nothing.
The
next
I
heard
was
from
Joe
McRae
I
got
a
phone
call
and
I
was
in
the
middle
of
one
of
the
other
North
Shore
suburbs,
saying
that
this
was
on
the
agenda
for
the
committee
that
evening,
and
that
was
in
may
and
I
said.
H
H
What
I
said
was
by
that
time,
I
had
received
a
had
received
interest
in
an
application
from
another
group
of
people
and
I
had
approved
that
and
therefore
I
had
used
my
appointment
for
the
year
and
I
suggested
to
one
of
the
bank
managers
that
perhaps
we
could
look
at
something
else.
I
wasn't
as
as
smart
as
alderman
raining,
I
didn't,
suggest,
city,
council
chambers,
but
I
suggested
perhaps
a
room
in
the
city
hall
and
I
thought
that
would
be
entirely
appropriate.
H
H
So
that's
that's
where
we
are
with
this
and,
as
I
said,
I
feel
very,
very
unhappy
with
not
only
the
innuendo
that's
been
going
on
here,
but
the
lack
of
communication
to
me,
which
I
think
does
not
show
the
sort
of
respect
that
I
would
certainly
have
for
another
member
of
the
council,
where
I
looking
to
make
a
recommendation
in
their
ward,
so
alderman
raining
I
support
you
on
your
our
suggestion
about
the
city,
council,
chambers,
I.
Think
that's
I
think
that
beats
a
street
sign
any
day
of
the
week.
It's
not
for
10
years.
H
It
might
be
for
50
years
if
we
follow
the
northwestern
university
line
of
naming,
but
it
might
be
for
50
years,
so
I
I
think
that's
an
excellent
and
excellent
idea.
I
feel
uncomfortable
about
as
much
as
I
respect
and
love.
The
mayor
I
see
that
it's
just
a
way
to
get
around
the
fact
that
the
bank
wants
that
street
sign
and
the
bank
wants
to
find
a
way
to
get
that
street
sign
and
I
just
I.
Just
don't
I
don't
find
that
changing
our
rules
in
order
to
accommodate
this
particular
request.
H
I
think
that's
an
extraordinary
step
to
take
in
order
to
accommodate
one
request:
I,
don't
anticipate
this
happening
again,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
it
is
going
to
open
up
it
can
of
worms
and
ill
feelings
in
the
downtown,
among
other
businesses
who
would
like
to
be
designated
and
who
would
look
on
this
as
a
form
of
advertising
and
I.
Just
I.
Just
don't
think.
That's
the
right
thing
to
do.
I've
prided
myself
for
years
that
were
that
that
we're
free
of
that
that
evanston
is
really
a
different
place.
H
E
You
that's
a
nice
story
all
new
at
this,
but
it's
not
terribly
accurate.
If
you
want
to
know
who's
behind
this
on
council,
it's
me
and
at
the
same
time,
that
the
bank
was
pursuing
you.
I
was
also
pursuing
it
and
I
think
we
did
mixed
messages.
We
did
miss
the
fact
that
I
guess
we
thought
each
other
was
taking
care
of
the
some
of
the
details,
but
regardless
to
demonize
bang,
the
first
bank
is
is
I'm.
H
H
H
E
One
no
jail
Idol
does
is
not
aware
of
this.
I'm
quite
certain
because
I've
talked
to
people
and
you
know,
was
to
be
a
surprise,
but
that
certainly
is
going
to
happen
anymore
and
probably
I
could
happen
at
all,
but
two
to
suggest
that
someone,
the
accusation
that
his
phone
calls
weren't
returned
or
I
mean
this
is
all
this
is
all
just
hearsay
on
your
part.
E
So
you
know,
I
think
it's
it's
a
shame,
because
this
is
a
man
who
should
not
be
relegated
to
his
sixth
ward,
where
he
was
alderman
of
good
alderman
and
should
not
be
relegated
to
a
branch
bank.
You
know
he
served
the
whole
city,
he
served
it
well
he's
one
of
the
builders
of
one
of
these
one
of
the
you
know,
people
that
made
the
downtown
what
it
is
now
downtown
that
you
are
appreciating
right
now
and
I
think
it's
really
a
disservice.
So
I,
you
know
it's
done.
H
C
A
A
J
To
clarify
the
Haven
issue,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
controversy
was
because
we
were
looking
to
replace
a
name
at
Haven
school
right,
not
necessarily
add
another
name
as
with
a
street,
but
replace
name,
and
that
was
the.
But
that
was
most
of
the
objection
there
and
and
I
hate
to
pull
former
Merrill
idol
into
this
or
First
Bank
and
Trust
both
find
community
institutions
both
of
them
and
and
I.
J
Think
at
this
point,
even
if
we
were
to
give
the
mayor
a
street
naming
prerogative
for
one
Street
a
year,
it
doesn't
sound
as
if
this
is
one
she's
going
to
want
to
suggest
anyway
and
I
love
the
idea
of
naming
the
city
council
chambers
after
Meryl
idle
as
well
and
would
support
it.
So
as
to
the
motion,
the
actual
motion
about
giving
the
mayor
of
the
product
of
of
naming
one
Street
a
year,
given
that
she
doesn't
have
a
ward
given
that
she
is
elected
city
wide
and
not
from
any
one
area
in
evanston.
J
That
makes
sense
to
me
so
putting
aside
first
bank
and
trust
and
putting
aside
merrill
idol,
I'm
willing
to
give
the
mayor,
whatever
Street
she'd,
like
to
name
in
the
seventh
Ward
over
the
next
several
years,
unless
I
get
a
better
request
for
a
street
name,
but
I
haven't
gotten
many
at
all
and
and
I
think.
This
is
a
good
motion.
Aside
from
the
issues
about
this
particular
proposal
again,.
A
A
K
A
A
Okay,
I
vanilla
did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
or
what.
K
I
speak
at
support
of
sending
it
back
to
committee
I'm
not
opposed
to
mayor
having
a
say
in
a
naming
circumstance,
but
I
also
think
we've
had
four
or
five
different
proposals
kicked
around
right
now.
We've
also
there's
two
resolutions
in
effect,
and
it
appears
that
I'm
sorry
there's
one
resolution
amending
the
previous
resolution,
but
the
current
procedure
said
on
the
website
says
at
the
ultimate
of
the
ward,
where
the
suggested
naming
place
is
in
support
of
the
recommendation.
K
Then
it's
forwarded
to
the
parks,
recreation,
community
services
department
for
review
by
the
Citizens,
Advisory,
Committee
and
public
place
names.
I,
don't
think
that's
the
process.
That's
set
forth
in
the
current
resolution.
That's
on
the
books,
I'm
not
opposed
to
actually
having
the
autumn
moon
in
support
of
that
I.
Just
think.
There's
a
lot
of
things,
ideas
being
thrown
around
that
I
would
like
to
see
staff
flush
out
and
also
consider
the
citizens
advisory
committee
on
public
place
names.
K
Consider
that
with
all
of
our
assets,
not
just
with
street
names
as
well,
and
have
a
single
process
for
public
naming
a
unified
process,
that's
set
forth
in
law
and
some
aspect.
I
just
think,
there's
too
much
being
kicked
around
right
now
and
a
second
third
recommendation
to
send
it
back
to
committee
with
the
staffs
suggestions.
Okay,.
F
H
G
G
G
Mayor
is
going
to
request
you
so
when
we
named
apart,
it
goes
to
the
public
place
names
committee
when
we
named
a
street
which
we
haven't
lately
I
think.
K
Just
for
clarification,
I'd
like
a
single
place,
yeah
we
can
well.
We
have
a
resolution
effect
right
now
in
a
sense
for
streets.
We
have
a
resolution,
in
effect
for
the
Committee
on
Public
names.
We
just
have
one
single
governing
resolution
where
we
could
look
to
and
put
into
place
for
all
of
this
and
kind
of
figure
out
the
process,
and
that's
just
what
I'm
saying
appointment.
You
know
clarification
of
how
we
do
this
as
a
city.
That's
all
I'd
like
to
see
that's.
Why
I
like
to
refer
back.
G
G
A
C
K
C
A
E
You
I
will
withdraw
the
motion
to
allow
the
mayoral
a
single
nomination
for
honorary
street
per
year.
I
would
like
to
send
this
first
to
the
committee
that
is
in
charge
of
honor
age
street
names
and
place
names
it
out
of
respect.
They
should
have
the
first
input
to
this
I
believe
and
then
I
think
they're
part
of
the
parks
rec,
but
it
seems
we
overlook
a
lot
of
these
committees
when
we
do
things
like
this.
So
much
I.
A
D
D
A
E
J
So
I
think
what
I'd
be
looking
for
from
staff
would
be
some
way
of
consolidating
all
the
resolutions
out
there
on
naming
public
places
and
streets
and
get
input
from
our
committee
on
that
and
then
send
it
to
both
P
and
E
and
human
services,
because
P
and
E
is
technically
where
it
should
go.
Human
Services,
just
by
habit
and.
D
E
D
J
I
I
would
be
hoping
for
a
really
clear
process
and
clear
criteria
and
one
place
where
you
go
to
look
for
it
and
something
that
then
comes
back
to
us
for,
in
whatever
committee
were
sitting
on
the
Human
Services.
It
sounds
like
and
then
to
council,
so
that
we
can
have
one
process
for
all
of
this.
Well.
H
J
K
G
All
right,
well,
actually,
city
facilities
are
usually
dealt
with
by
administration,
Public
Works,
just
saying,
however,
I
right
after
this
I
would
really
like
to
get
a
motion
before
this
committee
to
recommend
and
I
think
this
is.
You
know.
The
rules
committee
has
a
special
place
in
the
city's
government
and
we
do
special
things
here.
We
that
you
don't
really
do
in
a
committee
and
I
think
naming
a
building
or
a
space
is
something
that
this
committee
can
definitely
refer
to
whatever
august
body
directly.
G
K
A
A
E
I
D
J
J
G
G
A
A
A
D
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
all
the
marriages
doll
has
asked
that
this
item
come
before
the
Rules
Committee
this
evening.
It
would
have
one
member
of
the
Preservation
Commission
be
able
to
serve
without
the
requisite
requirement.
Training
experience
that
the
other
members
of
the
record,
the
Preservation
Commission
out
happy
to
answer
questions
point.
A
K
My
point
of
order
I'd
actually
like
to
just
to
be
clear
only
because
the
actual
the
suggested
ordinance
has
the
wrong
section
that
we're
amending
just
to
mend
it.
On
its
face
section,
one
should
read
that
section:
2
dash
eight
dash
three
dash
a
now
currently
reads
to
dash
90s
treat
at
a
best
day,
which
is
a
separate
section
of
the
code
just
want
to
make
sure
we
amend
the
right
one
I.
D
C
Thank
You
alderman
homes
I
made
this
suggestion
because,
as
you
know,
I've
been
trying
to
make
every
board
and
Commission
reflect
the
diversity
in
this
community
and
I
have
failed
miserably
in
some
instances.
This
is
one
the
I
did
succeed
in
appointing
a
Latino
for
about
eight
months
and
then
his
job
changed
and
he
left,
but
he
did
a
very
good
job
while
he
was
there
and
I'm
not
implying
that
there
aren't
Asians
or
Latinos
or
African
Americans,
who
have
a
great
deal
of
knowledge
about
preservation.
C
I
just
haven't
found
them,
so
I
would
like
I've
talked
with
Carlos,
who
finds
he
was
not
at
all
troubled
by
this.
He
thought
it
was
a
good
idea
and
said
that
he
could
get
anyone
up
to
speed
on
preservation
and
I'm
sure
Carlos
can,
but
at
any
rate,
in
my
attempt
to
make
all
the
boards
and
commissions
reflect
the
diversity
in
this
community.
That's
the
reason
that
I'm
asking
for
one
at
large
delegate,
who
would
not
have
to
have
the
level
of
expertise
that
the
other
members
of
the
Preservation
Commission
do
have.
G
I
I
think
this
is
really
bad
idea
and
the
reason
I
think
that
is
because
I
have
been
absolutely
of
no
help
in
looking
for
a
volunteer
for
the
Preservation,
Commission
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
other
members
of
the
council
have
been
actively
pursuing
volunteers,
but
I
promise
that
I
will
do
that
and
we'll
at
least
get
you
one
name
in
the
next
two
weeks
that
fulfills
your
criteria
for
a
a
diverse
number
of
the
Preservation
Commission.
Who,
indeed,
is
a
preservation
of
expert
of
some
sort
and
I
just
think?
G
I
Thank
you
and
I
see
both
of
those
points,
so
in
looking
at
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
currently
drafted,
I
feel
like
it
suffers
from
Orly
play,
stands
and
ors.
So
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
confusing.
Perhaps
to
someone
who
looks
at
this,
it
says
shall
have
demonstrated
interest,
common
knowledge,
comma
ability
and
experience
or
expertise.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
experience
or
expertise
are
supposed
to
relate
to
each
other
or
if
you
need
ability
and
expertise
or
if
you
just
need
a
ability
or
expertise.
I
So
I
do
feel
like
at
a
minimum.
Someone
interested
in
this
commission
should
have
a
demonstrated
interest
and
it
seems
to
me
that
a
demonstrated
interest
isn't
too
high
of
a
hurdle
to
overcome
I.
Don't
think
we
want
somebody
who
doesn't
have
an
interest
in
it,
because
we
don't
want
anybody
on
a
commission,
that's
not
interested
in
it.
So
perhaps
what
we
do
is
we
I.
I
Don't
know
if
everybody's
looking
at
its
page
11
proposed
overview
is
got
the
quote
in
there,
but
after
abilities
strike
the
word
and
make
that
a
comma,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
would
kind
of
broaden
the
range,
but
it
would
still
require
you
know
one
of
those
parameters,
so
you
need
to
have
some
sort
of
demonstrated
interest
or
ability
or
something
to
contribute.
Even
if
it's
just
an
interest
and
to
me
interest
is
okay
as
long
as
you
can
demonstrate
that
you're
interested
in
it
does
that
make
sense.
Well,.
C
C
I'm
sorry
I
would
say
that,
given
the
long
history
of
lack
of
diversity
on
that
committee,
that
that
there
are
some
barriers
to
people
participating
so
we'll
see
if
this
resolves
it,
and
if
this
doesn't
then
I'll
be
back.
H
She'll
she'll
she'll
be
back,
she'll,
be
back.
The
Preservation
Commission
because
we
have
binding
review,
does
require
a
certain
degree.
A
large
degree
of
expertise
and
in
areas
especially
considering
building
materials
and
design
and
demonstrated
interest,
may
be
all
that's
necessary
if
you've
been
through
a
building
project
in
your
house.
Maybe
that's
enough
for
you
to
to
know
if
you've
lived
through,
that
you
can
make
a
certainly
make
a
contribution
to
thee
to
the
Commission,
but
it
is.
H
It
is
very,
very
important
that
we
have
some
someone
on
that
Commission
who
is
knowledgeable
about
not
only
the
building
trades
architecture.
Any
of
these
related
issues
are
very,
very
important
and
and
I'm
sure,
as
alderman
Rainey
said,
I
have
not
given
any
thought
to
somebody
serving
and
we
have
such
a
rich
community
in
terms
of
people
who
are
qualified.
H
Think
of
all
of
us
put
our
collective
heads
together.
We
had
come
up
with
with
names
of
people
who
fulfill
your
requirements
to
apply
for
them
for
the
commission,
but
it
is
one
of
those
one
of
those
bodies
that
that
you
know
with
binding
review.
People
really
really
have
to
know
what
they're
talking
about.
A
J
Grover.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
my
liberal
reading
of
that
provision.
Alderman
Wilson
was
just
that
that
the
the
only
thing
that
one
really
needed
to
do
is
a
baseline
was
demonstrated
interest
in
the
in
the
subject
and
and
I.
Don't
underestimate
the
ability
of
anybody
to
learn
and
acquire
the
the
knowledge
that
they
would
need
to
be
an
effective
member.
The
Preservation,
Commission
I
think
all
of
us
have
in
mind.
Wherever
we
go,
everybody
we
meet.
Everybody
has
a
potential
member
of
a
board
committee
or
Commission.
J
We'd
suggest
names
to
the
mirror,
send
people
to
the
mayor
if
they're
looking
for
an
appointment
if
they
have
a
demonstrated
interest
so
I
like
your
your
Amendment,
because
I
think
it
does
exactly
what
the
mayor's
looking
to
do,
which
is
to
not
disqualify
people.
It's
simply
because
they
don't
have
a
particular
professional
background
in
this,
but
rather
let
their
interest
be.
What
guides
them,
though,.
A
D
D
Certainly,
before
we
get
into
September,
the
council
has
taken
a
variety
of
different
tax
with
us
over
the
last
few
years.
You
have
done
some
goal
planning
which
has
helped
instruct
us
with
the
budgeting
which
you've
done
over
the
summer
time
and
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that
either
have
staff
facilitate
that
a
gene
bone
and
ER
who's
worked
with
the
City
Council,
the
last
few
years.
D
I'm
sure
schedule
permitting
would
be
happy
to
come,
facilitate
a
goal-setting
conversation
again
again,
we'll
be
bringing
to
the
council
the
third
week
of
August
amid
your
budget
report,
but
I
would
certainly
feel
more
comfortable
this
evening,
knowing
again
a
sense
of
where
you're
all
at
with
our
preparations
and
your
feelings
regarding
goal
setting
your
feelings
regarding
the
community
budget
meetings.
As
you
know,
they
have
not
been
very
well
attended
in
generally
good
fiscal
times,
I
think
we
had
no
one.
D
Last
year,
I
think
we
had
one
individual
to
individuals
the
year
prior
to
that
it's
a
lot
of
energy
and
effort
to
reach
out
to
the
community.
We've
not
gotten
a
lot
of
information
back
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
kind
of
a
broad
question,
madam
chair,
but
whatever
discussion
and
direction
the
committee
cares
to
give
would
be
much
shouldn't
snake.
C
Very
worried
about
what
Springfield
is
going
to
do,
although
they
seem
to
be
very
good
at
doing
nothing
at
the
moment,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
two
budgets
ready
to
go
because
by
the
time
they
decide
on
cuts,
it
may
be
pretty
late
in
the
process.
I
mean
they
should
decide
soon,
but
I
don't
know
that
they
will
so
I
would
suggest.
C
We
need
a
budget
that
cuts
about
a
million
and
a
half
for
a
worst-case
scenario
and
a
budget
that
cuts
half
a
million
for
a
probably
good
scenario,
because
governor
rauner
has
twice
don't
three
times
told
me,
you
could
go
bankrupt
and
he
seems
to
believe
that
that
is
a
solution
for
cities.
We
could
then
renegotiate
our
union
contracts
and
I've
told
him.
We
don't
want
to
go
bankrupt
and
that's
the
message
other
mayors
of
given
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
getting
through.
C
A
Don't
know
how,
because
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
the
planning
which
I'm
anxious
to
hear
the
report
from
the
staff
in
terms
of
looking
at
where
they're
playing
around,
is
it
around
the
3.7
million
or
is
it
around
half
of
that
I?
You
know
in
terms
of
looking
at
how
would
be
able
to
you
know,
to
plan
for
a
budget
and
and
looking
at
cuts
and
reorganizing
the
city.
D
Alderman
homes,
better
mayor,
if
I
may
I,
think
staffs
take,
has
been
largely
mirror
crystals
take,
and
that
is
that
the
the
number
is
likely
not
be
not
to
be
the
higher
one,
but
to
be
under
your
mental.
Worst-Case
scenario
is
slightly
smaller
one
there's
also
the
factor
of
a
property
tax
freeze.
If
that
were
to
be
enacted
by
the
legislature.
We've
been
pretty
good
about
holding
the
line
on
property
taxes
so
less
concerned
about
that
again.
D
J
D
D
I
mean
it's
it,
it's
not.
It's
not
a
matter
of
the
the
undertaking.
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
the
content.
So
if
we
have
a
number,
then
you
know
are
we
looking
at
across-the-board
reductions?
Are
we
looking
at
targeted
we've
not
done
really
across-the-board
reductions
over
the
last
so
the
last
years
I've
been
here.
So
we
need
to
look
at
those
services
that
are
the
least
critical,
and
that
of
course,
is
always
extraordinarily
difficult.
D
Conversation
to
decide
which
service
is
the
least
critical,
but
certainly
we
we
have
made
those
to
have
those
decisions
have
had
those
discussions
in
the
past
and
we
can
again
if
the
council
feels
that
we
need
to
have
you
know
those
two
threshold
numbers.
Then
we
can
start
working
to
tho
those
two
threshold
numbers
we
can
communicate
with
the
staff.
You
know
that
we're
going
to
you
know
do
that
in
broad
terms.
D
At
this
point
it
just
becomes
very
difficult
as
if,
in
the
past
police
services,
fire
services
have
not
been
on
the
table,
certainly
not
significantly,
and
that
approaches
fifty
percent
of
the
general
fund
budget.
So
then
you
look
to
Public
Works.
You
look
to
parks
and
recreation
and
all
our
staff
knows
that
and
because
many
of
them
have
been
through
these
various
iterations,
so
they
know
you
know
who
who's
likely
going
to
be
among
those
scenarios.
D
So
again,
I
wish
we've
put
off
this
discussion
as
long
as
we
can
waiting
to
see
what
the
state's
going
to
do.
I
don't
think
we
can
wait
any
longer.
So
if
the
council
is
agreeable
to
mayor
Tisdale's
suggestion,
you
know,
that's
the
path
will
go
down.
I
would
only
ask
that
the
council
look
at
its
calendar
that
either
to
have
a
discussion
during
the
month
of
August,
or
certainly
the
first
part
of
September,
to
continue
to
flush
this
out
and
also
to
see
if
we've
made
progress.
J
D
D
D
I'll
also
remind
you
that
this
will
be
the
first
year
of
our
agreement
with
Northwestern
University
also
there'll
be
some
additional
dollars
available
there,
so
that
will
certainly
help
the
cause
in
part,
but
we
could
do
that
as
you
look
at
the
calendar
right
now,
we're
not
anticipating
having
a
human
services
or
rules
committee
meeting
on
Monday
august
3rd.
If
the
council
would
be
agreeable
to
a
special
meeting
of
the
council
talk
about
the
budget
on
august
3rd,
we
would
have
a
better
sense
of
where
we're
at
with
the
state
budget.
D
And
then
the
other
question
is
is
goal
setting
you
have
spent
an
evening
or
to
the
last
couple
of
years
talking
about
goals.
I
think
goals
also
help
inform
budget
reductions,
and
so,
if
you'd
like,
we
could
have
the
the
meeting
hot
august
third
of
be
both
an
update
as
where
we
stand
with
the
budget.
Also
give
the
council
an
opportunity
to
discuss
which
areas
you
are
less
uncomfortable
with
if
I
could
say:
okay,
okay,
so
we.
D
D
Much
okay,
very
good,
so
we
can
borrow
our
plan.
Then
we'll
come
to
you
with
a
six
month
budget
report
at
your
at
the
scheduled
meeting
for
August
the
17th
and
then
come
back
to
you
on
Monday
august
31st,
with
a
special
meeting
which
will
talk
about
budget
impacts
will
go
ahead
and
perhaps
to
have
less
public
outreach.
D
I
still
think
it's
important
to
have
a
community
budget
meeting
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
and
schedule
that,
for
probably
the
latter
part
of
September
and
then
I
get
think
based
on
what
occurs
at
the
latter
part
of
august
of
it
makes
sense
to
have
additional
meetings.
We
can
cross
that
bridge
at
that
point.
How
does
that
sound.
D
A
Yeah
I
was
trying
to
remember
I
thought
we
had
a
discussion
about
trying
to
make
sure
we
had
stuff
earlier,
because
people
will
be
gone
like
on
that
17th
I
on
the
grove
I'm.
Looking
at
you
do
you
remember
compensation
I'm
yeah,
several.
J
D
Schedule
so
we'll
go
with
the
17th
and
the
31st
and
go
ahead
at
least
have
one
community
budget
workshop
will
probably
not
have
the
extensive
on
stand
in
front
of
grocery
stores
and
train
stations
this
year,
sorry
Marty,
and
will
it
with
your
willingness
to
be
flexible,
given
events
as
they
unfold?
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