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From YouTube: Social Services Committee - Jun. 09, 2022
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Review and approval of 2022 ESG allocations and ARPA Childcare Provider Retention Pay Program. Find the agenda, packet and more information on the committee's web page: https://www.cityofevanston.org/government/social-services-committee
A
B
A
C
The
role
please,
I
will
thank
you
kathy
hayes.
A
C
D
B
Wonderful
and
our
second
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
may
12th.
The
minutes
are
attached.
I
will
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
B
C
Hey
kathy
hayes.
F
C
C
B
You
wonderful
and
we
will
open
up
the
discussion
for
our
first
public
comment
period.
We
will
have
another
one:
oh
it's
not
on
the
agenda,
but
we
will
have
we'll
offer
up
another
opportunity
for
public
comment,
but
I
will
pause
to
see
if
anybody
from
the
public
would
like
to
make
any
comments
before
the
committee
today.
B
Is
we
are
not
seeing
any
requests
for
public
comments?
We'll
continue
to
the
next
item
of
our
agenda
and
we'll
start
I
apologize
with
the
2022
emergency
solution,
grant
recommendation
jessica.
C
2022
allocations
for
the
emergency
solutions
grant
the
emergency
solutions
grant
is
pretty
prescriptive,
and
by
that
I
mean
we
have
four
categories
and
then
a
small
portion,
seven
and
a
half
percent
of
the
grant
reserved
for
administration
costs.
The
four
programs
are
street
outreach,
shelter,
operations,
homeless
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing.
C
The
two
primary
historically
primary
grantees
are
the
ywca
for
shelter
operations
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars
and
connections
for
the
homeless.
Connections
for
the
homeless
is
part
of
the
continuum
of
care
and
they
often
act
as
the
banker.
C
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
amounts
for
street
outreach
and
shelter
operations
there
is
a
cap.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
homelessness,
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing
can
take
the
form
of
direct
subsidies.
So,
typically,
those
funds
are
used
to
pay
direct
rental
support
for
eligible
households,
and
then
a
portion
can
also
go
toward
the
staffing
which
includes
case
management
or
like
their
housing.
Locator,
yeah
and
and
the
funds
between
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing
are
a
little
bit
more
fluid.
C
So
if
we
find
that,
for
example,
we're
spending,
we
have
a
lot
of
requests
for
revenue
housing.
We
can
shift
funds
from
prevention
to
rapid
and
vice
versa,
but
hud
likes
it
when
we
prioritize
rapid
rehousing.
So
that
is
typically
what
staff
has
suggested
and
you
can
see
here.
These
are
our
2021
allocations
and
then
our
2022
recommendations.
C
The
grant
is
allocated
based
on
on
percent,
and
so
it's
it's
pretty
fixed.
But
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
B
I
have
one
question,
but
I
want
to
open
it
for
committee
members.
First.
B
F
For
that
go
ahead
simon,
it's
the
formula,
it
is
just
a
formula,
and
it
is,
we
just
get
told
what
we
get.
B
C
C
Correct
it
will
go
to
human
services,
the
so
the
social
services
committee
recommendation
will
go
to
human
services
at
their
next
meeting
and
then
assuming
human
services
approves.
It
will
go
to
city
council
for
final
approval,
and
I
should
say
that
we
have
not
we've.
We
know
our
grant
amount,
but
we
technically
haven't
received
our
grant
from
hud.
That
probably
won't
happen
until
august
or
september,
and
and
that
is
when
we
can
actually
start
using
the
money.
But
I.
B
Just
wanted
to
add
that
thank
you,
council
member
burns.
G
C
Both
both
there
are
no
other
recipients
that
are
really
it's
not
that
they
aren't
eligible
for
the
emergency
solutions,
grant
it's
that
they
don't
have
the
administrative
capacity
oftentimes.
What
happens
is
especially
for
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing.
C
The
organization
receiving
those
funds
have
to
they're
paid
retroactively,
so,
like
connections
has
to
pay
landlords
first
and
then
be
able
to
have
those
funds
out
of
their
budget
or.
C
I'm
sorry
annoying
dog.
That
is
not
the
case.
Let
me
get
those
breakdowns
for
you,
so
connections
for
the
homeless
is
receiving
115
or
excuse
me
the
1549
for
street
outreach.
C
The
y
wca
is
receiving
15
000
for
emergency
shelters,
so
that
shelter
allocation
is,
is
not
split,
but
it
is
divvied
up
great
and
then
yes,
connections
would
receive
the
54
231
for
rapid
rehousing
and.
C
C
D
Thank
you
chair,
I
think,
similar
to
councilmember
burns
and
gerald's
rights
questions
why,
in
22
we
increase
the
rate
of
the
allocation
for
what
we
provide
for
homeless
prevention,
and
then
we
decrease
the
rate
for
rapid
rehousing.
I'm
just
curious
just
to
understand
why.
C
C
Connections
has
received
for
prevention
funds,
so
we
thought
we
would
shift
back
to
those
historic
levels,
but
if
we
here
in
working
with
connections
that
they're
not
getting
as
many
prevention
requests-
and
we
weren't
connections
has
two
years
to
to
expend
these
funds.
So
if
we
find
that
we
aren't
receiving
the
request
for
prevention,
we
could
ship
those
funds
back
to
rapid
rehousing.
F
A
note
in
2021
we
reduced
the
prevention
because
prevention,
we
couldn't
use
prevention
funding.
Well,
there
was
a
moratorium
on
evictions
because
for
prevention
funding
you
have
to
have
an
eviction
notice
to
be
able
to
make.
Somebody
eligible
seems
like
years
ago
that
we
were
doing
that.
But
you
know
what's
funny
is
this
was
the
very
first
major
decision
and
recommendation
this
committee
made
after
being
formed,
was
the
esg
regimentation.
F
So
this
is
and
as
as
jessica
mentioned,
we
don't
yet
have
our
grant
amount.
I
mean
our
grant
agreements.
In
fact,
our
updated
action
plan
is
going
to
the
housing
and
community
development
committee
at
its
meeting
on
the
21st,
and
then
it
will
go
to
council
and
then
it
has
to
go
to
hud,
but
this
is
something
we
just
can
get
ready.
F
If
we
get
it
approved
and
out
of
the
way,
then,
when
we
get
the
funding,
we
can
get
the
grant
agreements
out
and
give
them
access
to
funding
as
quickly
as
possible.
There's
a
lot
of
change
in
availability
of
any
kind
of
rent
assistance.
There's
been
a
you
know.
Most
of
it
has
been
distributed
already,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
jump
on
this
and
get
it
done
so
that
we
can
implement
it
as
fast
as
possible.
B
Yes,
sorry
for
approval
of
these
recommendations
and
was
that
a
motion
from
council
member,
perfect
wonderful?
I
need
a
second
20
seconds,
all
right
and
jessica.
Will
you.
C
D
C
Thank
you,
amanda
angola,
aye.
Thank
you,
councilmember
burns
aye.
Thank
you
and
council
member
reid.
H
B
F
F
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
history
that
we
had.
This
was
one
of
the
things
that
the
evanston
early
childhood
early
childhood
council.
F
C
Great,
so
the
the
goal
of
this
program
is
to
provide
premium
pay
for
staff
of
dcfs,
licensed
home
care
and
center
care
providers.
C
We
want
to
target
providers
that
serve
51
or
more
low,
moderate
income,
households
and
those
providers
we
are
estimating
staff
is
proposing
that
those
providers
would
re
that
each
staff,
member
who
is
a
licensed
gateway
participant,
would
receive
a
bonus
of
twelve
hundred
dollars.
C
We
would
also
fund
additional
dcfs
licensed
providers,
so
this
would
include
our
part-time
center
providers
at
the
rate
of
600
per
staff.
Member
and
again,
we
want
to
target
providers
that
employ
primarily
women
and
people
of
color.
This
definitely
includes
our
home
care
providers,
the
majority
of
whom
are
women.
Women
and
women
of
color
staff
came
to
this
budget
by
first
talking
to
providers
to
understand
their
needs.
C
We
had
put
out
a
form
that
captured
the
number
of
staff
members,
the
number
of
staff
registered
through
gateways
and
and
gateways
staff
typically
include
teachers,
classroom
assistants,
home
visitors,
so
there's
a
wide
range
of
of
staff,
but
all
of
those
staff
are
in
front-facing
positions
and
are
eligible
as
essential
workers.
C
So
then
we
also
looked
at
the
number
of
gcfs
spots
available
for
children
and
and
then
we
sort
of
guesstimated
that,
based
on
the
number
of
children
that
that
had
been
enrolled,
the
the
number
of
additional
staff
that
that
may
apply
and
the
the
budgeted
number
that
we
came
up
with,
does
align
with.
As
sarah
mentioned,
the
original
request
of
the
evanston
early
childhood
council.
F
If
I
can
just
add
a
little
thing,
this
is
a
type
of
program
that
is
not
doesn't
exist
in
any
of
our
other
funding
sources.
So
far,
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
very
important
is
we
have
child
care
providers
that
are,
as
jessica,
said,
center-based,
but
within
that
center
base
there
are
both
for-profit
and
non-profit,
and
there
are
also
you
know,
some
of
the
non-profit
center-based.
F
I
don't
know
how
I
muted
myself,
without
even
touching
my
mouse.
That's
remarkable.
I've
got
I've
developed
new
powers.
I
never
knew
I
had
so
anyway.
Sorry,
I'm
not
sure
where
I
managed
to
mute
myself,
but
this
is
what
we've.
What
we've
done
here
is
create
a
class
of
providers
that
includes
both
for-profit
and
non-profit
center-based
and
home-based
and
within
each
of
those
groups.
F
We
have
some
of
them,
provide
deep
levels
of
services
to
lower
income
residents
so
that
those
are
the
ones
that
are
the
51
low
and
moderate
income
households
that
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
we
focus
funding
on
the
providers
that
are
providing
care
to
the
people.
F
Who've
been
disparately
impacted
by
covet,
as
well
or
first
or
at
a
higher
level,
because
their
organizations,
because
of
the
cash
flow
they
get
or
the
cash
flow
they
don't
get
for
the
you
know,
ccap,
for
example,
never
fully
reimburses
the
cost
of
the
pro
of
the
care
it.
F
We
felt
it
was
more
important
to
be
able
to
reward
them
at
higher
levels
because
their
staff,
their
provide
their
organizations,
don't
have
the
opportunity
or
the
cash
flow
to
give
them
any
kind
of
bonus
pays,
and
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
a
comparable
thing,
might
be
the
large
grocery
stores
or
drugstores
or
things
that
could,
but
a
small
corner
store
that
couldn't
you
know
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we're
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
reach
and
help
give
more
help
to
the
organizations
that
are
both
themselves,
probably
less,
financially
able
to
provide
more
pay
and
also
still
need
to
keep
their
staff.
F
Child
care
workers
generally
started
about
fourteen
dollars
an
hour
and
even
the
highest
paid
ones
with
bachelor's
degrees
and
others
are
usually
making
no
more
than
25
dollars
an
hour,
so
all
kinds
of
jobs,
anything
from
working
at
the
chick-fil-a,
which
has
higher
wages
right
now
and
more
flexible
schedules.
F
And
of
course
they
are
absolutely
front-facing
workers
and
also
their
work
is
with
the
only
people
who
cannot
get
vaccinated
still,
which
are
children.
You
know
young
children,
so
their
vulnerability
is
also
higher.
So
it's
a
lot
of
arpa
eligibility
and
all
those
things
that
you
know
really
aligns
it
with
the
goals
of
the
funding
and
also
with
very
high
need
in
the
community.
H
H
F
Actually,
one
of
the
things,
one
of
the
reasons
that
this
timing
is
appropriate
is
the
state
of
illinois.
Not
it
might
have
been
through
arpa,
but
it
wasn't
through.
Slfrs
did
a
similar
program
and
there
is
still
it
hasn't
changed
the
pay
scales
for
the
workers
and
they
still
are
having
our
our
providers-
are
having
real
concerns
about
retaining
their
workers.
So
this
is
significantly
after
the
states,
but
still
important
to
try
to.
You
know,
as
I
say,
retain
workers
for
our
child
care.
Centers.
C
Well
and
if
I
may
say,
the
state's
program
was
opened
in
september
of
last
year,
so
I
I
don't.
I
hope
that
we're
not
that
far
behind.
H
And
is
there
to
this
day
still
a
retention
issue
now?
Is
this
something
that
now
is
still
being
reported?
Is
this
being
reported
across?
Is
this
just
in
the
child
care
industry?
Is
this
being
reported,
as
you
mentioned
in
you,.
I
C
So
I
haven't
know
about
other
frontline
industries,
but
I
did
hear
that
retention
was
a
big
challenge
for
evanston
child
care
providers.
I
spoke
with
learning
bridge
infant
welfare
society
and
certainly
the
evanston
early
child
care
council,
which
represents
quite
a
number
of
care
providers,
both
home
and
center,
and
so
the
skokie
evanston
will
met
organization
for
home
care
providers.
All
reported
that
retention
was
the
biggest
challenge,
so
we
do
see
this
as
a
retention
program.
C
H
Have
and
if
sarah
can
you
go
back
to
the
previous
page,
one
more
time
so
that
you
would
provide
them
with
the
lump
sum
that
they
would
have
six
months
to
expend
expend
on.
F
Staff,
it
would
be
restricted
to
the
staff
bonuses
they.
In
other
words,
we
want
to
give
them
some
flexibility
for
when
they
implement
actually
giving
the
bonuses.
I
mean
you'll,
see
when
we
get
to
the
schedule
or
what
we
expect
to
be
the
schedule
that,
for
example,
it
might
be
they
might
choose
to
not
release
the
funds
like
right
when
they
first
get
it,
but
we're
getting
close
to
the
holiday
season.
They
might
want
to
time
it
so
that
it's
more,
you
know
tied
to
close
to
a
holiday
season
or
something
like
that.
F
We
don't
and
also
their
administrative
challenges
and
processes.
So
we
want
to
give
them
a
little
flexibility
on
when
they
release
it,
but
then
they
have
to
actually
they
have
to
have
all
their
reporting
to
us
within
six
months.
At
you
know,
at
the
end
of
six
months
and
be
able
to
show
they
have
to
provide
us
source
documents
that
who
they
paid,
how
much
and
that
the
people
were
actually
getting
paid.
F
So
we
get
the
same
kind
of
payroll
information
that
we
get
when
an
agency
is
billing
staff
to
us
for
a
program.
So
that's
all
very
important
and
all
required
by
arpa
we
kill
people
with
compliance.
Unfortunately,
even
in
the
simplest
programs.
H
And
what
is
the
maximum
award?
A
single
agency
can
receive.
C
So
that's
based
on
the
number
of
staff
the
agency
has,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
cap,
but
it's
the
cap
would
be
the
number
of
staff
enrolled
in
illinois
gateway,
which
is
a
licensing
and
credentialing
program
run
through
the
department
of
human
services.
I
believe
I
could
look
that
up.
F
One
of
the
things
I'm
just
looking
for
our
we
have
a
spreadsheet
that
has
staff
numbers
for
the
agencies
that
responded,
and
so
we
could
give
you
if
I
can
find
it.
I
can
give
you
a
rough
estimate
of
how
many
you
know
what
a
range
of
grants
might
be.
B
While
you're
looking
for
that
council
member
reid,
you
have
more
questions
or
should
we
ask
kathy
her
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I
I
know
I
am
new
to
the
group
as
well.
I'm
I'm
a
little
confused
about.
I
had
some
of
the
very
same
questions
as
the
council
member
did
have
so.
These
are,
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
These
are
only
agencies
that
are
in
evanston
they're,
where
the
employees
are
employed
in
evanston
these
frontline
workers
for
this
staff
retention
program.
A
This
is
a
bonus
for
them
outside
of
their
outside
of
the
income
they're
receiving
for
their
day-to-day
work.
They
will
also
be
taxed
on
this
bonus,
as
any
other
person
will
be
taxed
on
the
bonus.
A
C
E
C
Pay
yeah
for
full
pay
services,
because
those
agencies
that
are
charging
market
rate
for
child
care
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
how
much
they
can
pay
their
staff.
A
F
What
we've
planned
is
that
the
bulk
of
it
will
be
for
direct
funding
to
the
to
the
workers
depending
on,
and
one
of
the
challenges
is,
of
course,
we've
made
our
estimates
of
how
many
might
be
eligible.
How
many
might
be
you
know,
we
don't
have
the
forms
filled
out
from
the
child
care
providers
to
say
what
the
incomes
you
know,
what
their
income
ratio
or
what
percent
of
of
of
people
are
being
are
at
what
income
level
and
we've
estimated
the
number
of
teachers.
So
we've
made
a
formula
and
figured
this
out.
F
We
came
up
with
610
potentially
eligible
people
with
our
guests,
from
looking
at
our
best
estimate
from
looking
at
all
that
and
of
the
respondents
who
had
responded
to
our
first
sort
of
preliminary
survey
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
structure
this.
Just
under
half
were
serving
substantial
numbers
of
low
and
moderate
income
families.
So
we
estimated
this
based
on
300
workers
being
eligible
for
the
higher
level
and
the
three
and
310
being
eligible
for
the
lower.
F
We
will
then
assuming
approval
by
the
committee
and
all
the
following
things.
We
will
issue
these
relatively
simple
applications
for
all
the
child
care
providers
to
be
able
to
apply,
and
then
we're
going
to
have
to
do
the
math
and
see
how
it
came
out
and
if
our
math
isn't
right,
then
what
we
need
to
do
is
bring
back
a
recommendation
to
the
committee
of
how
to
adjust,
because,
frankly
I
don't
know
how
else
to
do
it,
we
don't
want
to
do
it,
we're
not
going
to
fund
on
a
rolling
basis.
F
There
will
be
a
deadline
by
which
organizations
have
to
get
their
applications
in,
and
that's
really
the
only
way
we've
been
able
to
figure
out
to
structure
this
in
a
way
that
we
think
will
be
equitable
to
the
providers
and
also,
but
give
you
a
basis
of
what
we
expect
would
be
we're
not
necessarily
going
to
try
to
come
back
for
more
funding
in
total.
The
arpa
budget.
Has
this
amount
for
premium
pay
in
the
in
in
the
in
that
bucket?
And
if
we
were
way
over?
F
It's
not
like
we're
going
to
say
oh
well
great.
We
can
give
them
all
2
500
we're
not
going
to
do
that
either.
So
this
is
you
based
on.
We
did
a
lot
of
looking
at
programs,
not
just
the
state
program,
but
we
looked
throughout
the
country
at
the
levels
that
that
other
organizations
were
doing.
We
found
some
really
interesting
things
that
we
didn't
agree
with.
F
One
place
was
doing
higher
levels
for
the
higher
paid
staff
and
we
were
kind
of
like
how
does
that
help
retain
people
you've
already
you're,
not
helping
the
people
who
are
probably
most
vulnerable
to
going
and
working
at
mcdonald's.
You
know
I
mean
that
didn't
make
sense
to
us,
so
so
this
is
the
first
time
we've
ever
had
a
program
like
this.
F
So
we've
done
our
really
a
lot
of
talking
with
the
a
number
of
the
child
care
providers,
a
lot
of
research
on
what
else
is
being
out
there
looked
at
the
guidance
from
treasury
and
that's
what
the
program
is
based
on
and
we
think
it
based
on
discussions
with
the
child
care
providers.
They
feel
this
will
have
significant
impact
on
the
well-being
of
their
staff
members
as
well,
which
is
very
important.
F
We
don't
want
to
come
up
with
something
that
they
go
well,
that
was
nice,
you
know,
and
then
they
leave
right
away
and
one
of
the
things
frankly
that
a
provider
could
choose
to
do
is,
for
example,
divide
the
amount
that
they're
giving
to
a
worker
into
two
payments.
If
they
want
to
that
sort
of
thing
was
they
were
actually
asked
if
they
could
do
that,
and
if
they
think
that
is
going
to
improve
their
retention
of
staff,
then
we
think
that's
a
reasonable
flexibility
to
give
them.
F
F
We
haven't
figured
out
what
it
would
be,
but
it
would
come
back
to
the
committee
administrative
cost
for
the
organizations
for
just
doing
the
paperwork
and
stuff
that
is
allowable.
So
you
know
these
are.
I
wish
I
had
absolute
answers
for
you
all
on
this,
but
we
just
don't
have
them
because,
as
I
say,
we're
we're.
We've
developed
the
framework
and
the
and
the
structure,
but
we
don't
know
exactly
how
many
applications
we'll
get.
A
Entities
that
are
eligible
for
this
type
of
funding-
and
my
last
question
is
and-
and
thank
you
for
that-
I
love
child
care
people.
They
saved
my
life
because
I
was
a
single
mother.
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
I
was
just
curious,
so
this
is
once
that
opera
fund
is
tapped
out
or
it
reaches
its
limit.
Whatever
that
limit
is
this
will
not
be
revisited,
or
is
this
going,
or
is
this
going
to
try
to
be
an
ongoing
program
for
retention.
F
The
city
will
not
does
isn't,
doesn't
have
the
capacity
to
continue
it.
There
is
a
great
deal
of
recognition
at
the
federal
level
and
and
at
the
state
level
that
compensation
for
child
care
is
out
of
line
with
the
work.
I
think
you
know
it's
like
in
this
country
the
fact
that
child
care
isn't
available
on
a
much
broader
basis,
we're
we're
the
only
first
world
country
that
basically
expects
parents
to
be
able
to
pay
for
their
child
care.
F
You
know
in
their
child
early
childhood
education
and
everything
until
kids
get
into
kindergarten.
Virtually
every
country
has
free
or
very
low
cost
child
care,
universal
child
care,
different
movements
to
try
to
get
to
universal
child
care.
Frankly,
I
hope
we
get
there.
Everything
says
the
earliest
years
are
the
most
formative
years
and
the
most
critical
and
somehow
our
systems
do
not
recognize
that
in
the
way
we
provide
care.
F
Well,
we
wouldn't
have
the
resources
to
provide
it
okay,
but
we
do
need
to
keep
people
working
in
child
care
and
keep
child
care
slots
available
for
and
to
provide
the
help
that
we
can
at
the
moment
at
least
that's
our
opinion
based
on
our
discussions
with
them
and
and
with
the
child
care
providers.
G
Thank
you.
Has
there
been
any
survey
of
employees
in
this
field
where
they've,
where
we
know
why
somebody
said
back,
do
we?
It
is
the
issue
that
people
have
the
child
care
providers.
Have
employees
have
quit.
G
F
G
F
It's
part
of
the
workforce
development
process
work
that
nathan,
norman
is
looking
at
it's
one
of
the
sectors
that
we
know
needs
help.
So
one
of
the
things
there
are
very
good
training
programs
and
there
are
a
whole
different
type
of
them.
Some
of
the
early,
the
entry-level
jobs
can
be.
F
You
can
get
training
online
through
different
services,
and
so
that
is
a
very
viable
way
of
getting
some
people
into
employment
and
also
then
giving
them
a
career
path
by
getting
them
higher.
You
know
credentials
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
something
that
I
think
is
an
important
second
second
element
to
retaining
or
to
supporting
our
child
care
providers.
So.
G
F
G
No,
that's
what
I'm
saying.
What
is,
why
are,
why
has
it
been
hard
to
retain
people?
Is
there
any
survey
where
we
know
why
people
have
left.
F
Gotten
a
lot
of
information
from
our
child
care
providers.
In
some
cases,
some
child
care
workers
left
early
and
probably
have
not
come
back
because
they
also
had
other
responsibilities.
A
great
many
child
care
workers
also
had
their
own
children
and
couldn't
stay
or
had
older
family
members.
Things
like
that,
so
they
have
basically
left
the
field
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
people
who've
left
and
have
not
come
back.
F
The
other
thing
is
a
number
of
workers
are
older
women
and
or
older
individuals,
most
of
them
women
and
with
underlying
health
challenges,
so
that
also
some
dropped
out
earlier,
because
that
of
that
that
health
risk
now
some
of
those
may
have
come
back
because
they
were
able
to
get.
You
know,
vaccinations
and
stuff.
Remember
when
this
first
hit.
F
G
G
Eligible
employees
to
employees
who
are
actually
experiencing
real
hardship
as
opposed
to
a
blanket
as
long
as
you,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
you
know
this
says,
cannot
exceed
1.5
times
the
average
wage.
So
it
says
which
is
90
000
annually.
F
F
G
F
G
F
If,
if
technically
somebody,
if
somebody
made
just
under
that
90
000,
they
would
be
eligible,
but
based
on
everything
we
we
talked
to
a
number
of
a
number
of
child
care.
You
know
executive
directors
and
owners
and
stuff
like
that.
Even
the
executive
directors
of
the
child
care
centers
aren't
making
that
kind
of
money.
Right
now.
G
G
F
That
means
they're
they're,
basically
an
hourly
worker,
so
it
rules
out
management,
people,
that's
that
was
added
from
the
interim
rule
to
the
final
rule,
because
people
were
complaining
that
it
was
too
hard
to
figure
out
just
the
math
and
they
had
to
be
more
flexible.
So
their
way
of
making
it
more
flexible
was
to
say
it.
If
anybody
who
is
is
subject
to
the
hourly
wage
laws
could
be
eligible.
So
we
just
put
that
in
to
show
that
all
of
it
was
compliant
with
the
regulations.
G
F
No
it
they
they
list
it
as
or
in
this
industry
they're,
just
it
it.
It
is
almost.
F
It
really
is
not
relevant
so
much
to
our
industry,
but
where,
where
the
or
to
the
child
care
industry
where
it
could
come
into
play,
is
in
certain
other
types
of
of
of
jobs
that
could
be
eligible
because
they're
front
facing
workers.
But
honestly,
I
don't
think
there
are
that
many
that
are,
I
think
it
is.
It
might
have
been
a
way
of
saying.
Oh
look,
we've
made
it
more
flexible,
but
it
really
doesn't
expand.
Anything
it
just
is
a
way
of
of
they
did
some
other
kind
of
weird
things.
They.
F
They
have
a
different
scale
for
how
they
define
low
and
moderate
income,
for
example,
that
they
thought
was
going
to
improve
things
for
us,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
does
it
kind
of
confuses
it,
but
we'll
show
you
a
slide
on
that.
They
they
didn't,
because
arpa
has
programs
or
will
likely
be
supporting
programs
that
are
funded
both
by
the
human
services.
You
know
the
department
of
human
services
and
also
by
hud,
you
have
two
different
income
scales.
F
One
uses
percent
of
area
median
income,
the
other
uses
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
line
so
jessica.
I'm
going
to
have
jessica,
pull
up
the
how
you
define
low
and
moderate
income
for
this,
because
it's
again
they've
done
a
blended
and
a
new
format
that
we've
never
seen
before
for
arpa
to
try
to
encompass
the
needs
and
the
familiar
areas
of
different
organizations
that
could
be
funded,
which
I'm
not
sure,
helps
completely.
But
I'll.
Explain
to
you
how
it
works.
G
Last
thing
it
says
not
to
exceed
so
I
mean
technically,
they
may
not
need
to
be
a
need
if,
if
they
feel
most
of
the
workers
are
at
40
000,
but
we
we
could
set
it
lower
than
that,
and
it
still
would
not
be
out
of
compliance
with
this
order.
Correct.
F
F
F
Will
our
providers
will
have
to
be
able
to
document
that
they
have
51
or
more
of
their
workers
at
the
low
lower
income
level
in
order
to
get
the
higher
level
of
bonus?
And
this
is
also
very
different
from
the
schedules
used
in
other
programs.
They
had
a
little
worksheet
that
I
put
in
information
and
bing.
It
gave
me
this
chart.
F
They
have
used
for
low
income
they're
using
40
percent
of
area,
median
income
adjusted
by
for
household
size
or
185
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
guideline,
and
what's
interesting
about
this,
is
you
can
see
how
how
differently
those
scales
work?
I've
tried
to
align
them
in
the
past
and
they
don't
align
so
for
arpa.
The
the
threshold,
the
maximum
that
somebody
can
be
their
their
income,
can
be
a
household
income
to
be
low
income
for
arpa.
Is
that
yellow
column?
F
And
you
can
see
that
what
they
did
is
they
took
whichever
was
higher
either
the
40
percent
of
area,
median
income
or
185
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
guideline,
and
that
was
done
to
try
to
accommodate
the
differences
between
housing
and
hud-based
programs
like
cdbg
and
human
services
programs,
which
are
snap
and
all
those
other
things
and
because
otherwise
the
fear
was
people
would
be
kicked
out
who
were
accustomed
to
getting
other
federal
benefits.
So
it's
there's
some
real
peculiarities
about
arpa.
F
Let
me
tell
you,
and
so
the
same
thing
happens
with
moderate
incomes,
and
they
also
did
something
that
I
haven't
seen
in
our
other
grants
before
and
that
they
said
literally.
If
people
are
organizations
are
having
a
hard
time
figuring
out
income
qualifications,
they
can
use
that
three-person
household
and
just
ask
people
if
they
are
above
or
below
those
two
threshold
numbers
if
their
incomes
are
above
or
below
that
and
define
them,
as,
as
you
know,
either
low
income
or
moderate
income
or
not
either.
F
G
I
guess
my
what
I'm
trying
to
focus
on
there's
a
way
to
free
up
additional
funds
by
excluding
higher
income
child
care
workers,
so
that
we
can
provide
larger
assistance
to
the
lowest
income
or
employers
employees
making
the
lowest
income.
I
think
that
would
go
would
make
more
of
an
impact
in
terms
of
retention
than
just
doing
a
blanket
all
right
you
get
12
you
get
600.
G
It
would
be
more,
I
think,
closely
aligned
with
me
than
what
we
may
be
doing
here,
I'm
not
sure
because
it
seems
pretty
complicated
the
way
this
is
working
out,
but
well.
F
E
G
E
H
Population
that
they're
serving
right.
So
that's
actually,
if
I
can
jump
back
in
and
sure
if
that's
right
and
then
I
I
also
do
still
want
an
answer
to
the
the
other
question.
But
I'm
fine,
excluding
the.
H
I
am
fine,
excluding
the
organizations
or
the
child
care
providers
that
so
essentially
a
child
care
provider
could
have
zero
low
income
clients
and
still
get
six
hundred
dollars
per
employee.
Is
that
correct?
Under
the
current
scheme.
H
Yeah
and
I'm
not
a
huge
fan
of
that-
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
if
this
business
had,
the
ability
to
you
know,
didn't
see
revenue
lost
and
was
able
to
adjust
prices
appropriately
based
on
the
pandemic,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
give
them
money
and
to
council.
F
We
had
the
limit
we
have.
The
the
the
basis
of
all
of
our
calculations
was
the
list
off
the
dcfs
says
you
know:
dcfs
has
a
list
of
of
licensed
child
care
providers,
so
that's
what
we're
working
with
and
the
only
ones
we
have
excluded
to
date
are
those
that
serve
own.
Don't
serve
early
childhood
because
the
this
is,
you
know,
we're
not
doing
the
school
districts
after
school
care.
Those
are
the
ones
that
have
been
excluded
and
we
could
put
one
possibility.
F
I
mean
to
make
eligibility
requiring
51
percent
minimum
for
low
or
moderate
income
residents,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
find,
especially
with
the
part
day
programs,
is
frequently
they
don't
have.
F
They
don't
get
c-cap
and
things
like
that,
and
they
are
not.
They
are
much
more
much
less
likely
to
have
income
information
that
doesn't
that
may
not
be
enough
of
a.
F
One,
how
can
I
do
this?
Maybe
we
could
look
at
if
if
this
is
a
concern
having
two
levels,
in
other
words
nobody
they
would
have
to
have?
I
don't
know
what
percent
of
lower
moderate
income
to
be
eligible
at
all?
If
that's
the
wish
of
the
committee
but
51
to
require
everyone
to
have
51
or
more,
I
think,
would
potentially
rule
out
a
lot
of
providers,
because
you
know
we
want
to
we
who
still
could
need
help.
F
B
And
I
think
sarah
and
council
member
something
also
to
think
and
not
think
of,
is
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
studies
around
child
care
and
education
in
general
and
and
having
sort
of
those
mixed
incomes,
low,
moderate
and
higher
incomes
and
the
outcomes
of
those
for
children.
You
know
sort
of
in
those
diverse
classrooms
classrooms,
and
so
we
do
want
diverse
classrooms.
From
that
standpoint
as
well
and
so
well,
I
agree
with
you
sort
of
a
zero
percent
low
or
moderate
income.
B
You
know
that
that's
sort
of
like
the
extreme
on
one
side,
but
if
it's
30
percent-
or
you
know,
there's
that
there's
that
scale
from
you
know
50
and
beyond
that
that
you
would
be
sort
of
missing
if
you
just
got
rid
of
that
full
600
category,
and
so
perhaps
you
know,
must
serve
a
what
a
certain
percentage,
although
if
there's
a
large
percentage,
they
don't
have
any
income
information
that
can
be
that
that
could
potentially
be
an
administrative
challenge.
B
I
will
also
say,
as
a
mom
of
a
very
young
child,
child
care
is
brutal.
Right
now
I
mean
finding
child
care
is
incredibly
hard.
Even
for
people
who
are
not
lower
moderate
income,
like
the
the
the
wait
lists,
are
some
of
the
longest.
I
think
I've
seen
this
six
and
a
half
year
old
and
an
eight
month
old
and
sort
of
two
experiences
pre
and
post
pandemic
and.
H
Yeah,
I
just
wonder
if
using
funds
to
then
expand
services,
rather
than
one
thing
I
don't
like
about
this-
is
so
one?
Yes,
I
I
do
agree
with
you.
You
know
that
zero
percent
is
one
level.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
that
are
in
that
category
of
you
know,
10
something
very
low,
aren't
getting
these
funds
necessarily,
and
yes,
I
do
you
know,
I'm
aware
that
having
diverse
settings
is
is
good.
I
also
don't
like
knowing
that
this
is
an
industry
that
has
artificially
kept
its
wages
low.
H
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
essentially
rewarding
an
industry
like
this,
for
artificially
keeping
their
wages
low
and
almost
incentivizing
them
not
to
increase
wages
on
their
own,
to
create
competition
or
to
create
employer,
employee
competition,
and
this
this
almost
gives
them
an
out
in
in
some
way
locally
from
just
naturally
increasing
their
wages.
B
I
think
the
issue
with
any
providers
that
are
providing
via
through
on
the
dhs
child
care
program
is
that
the
the
rate
that
they
receive
is
really
set
by
the
state,
and
so
they
don't
actually
have
resources
or
the
ability.
Because
of
how
the
payment
structure
works
for
enrollees
to
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
turn
to
increase
their
wages.
F
That
is
true.
If,
if,
if
accepting
ccap,
you
cannot,
you
know
directly
supplement
that
ccap
payment
in
the
ccap.
I
think
the
only
thing
they
did
was
at
least
for
a
period
of
time.
They
didn't
require
any
funds
from
some
of
the
families
receiving
ccap,
because
that's
also,
I
absolutely
agree
that
the
child
care
wages
have
to
increase.
F
But
I
think
it
is
a
much
more
complicated
thing
that
is
much
bigger
than
anything
we
can
do,
and
I
don't
think
it's
the
desire
of
the
child
care
providers,
at
least
not
the
ones,
the
bulk
of
the
ones
that
we
we
work
with
to
not
pay
their
workers
more.
It's
just
if
you
are
doing
a
mixed
group
where
you
have
scholarship,
ccap,
scholarship
and
other
scholarships,
and
then
you
have
full
pay.
F
You
can't
increase
the
one
and
you
can't
increase
the
full
pay
past
a
certain
point
either
because
it
just
it
is
huge
people
pay
as
much
for
child
care
as
they
do
for
transportation
and
housing
and
in
some
cases
it's
an
astounding
portion
of
their
budget,
and
I
think
that
the
federal
government
was
saying
something
like
it
should
be.
No
more
than
seven
percent
and
it's
it's
way
over
seven
percent
of
many
many
people.
I
I
think
it's
a
it
is
a
huge
issue.
B
Yeah-
and
I
I
think
beyond
the
c-cap
issue,
which
has
very
limiting
of
how
they
charge
is
in
order
to
increase
wages,
you
have
to
increase
what
people
pay
and
there
is
a
I
mean,
obviously,
for
high
income
folks,
you
know
it's
a
different
situation,
but
it
is
a
challenge
for
moderate
and
middle-class
families,
along,
of
course,
with
a
very
large
challenge
for
low-income
families
as
well.
B
And
council
member
rito
you
you
raised
something
that
was
also
something
I
had
been
thinking
about,
and
I
thought
it
was
an
arpa
limitation,
like
of
of
what
the
programs
could
be
for,
which
was.
This
is
an
expanding
capacity.
This
is
really
just
sort
of
like
stopping
the
bleeding.
If
you
will
right,
but
that's
because
arpa
hat
like
is
there
something
around
a
retention
program
or
is
that?
B
F
Honestly,
the
group
of
child
care
providers-
we
were
talking
with
this
20,
this
group
of
20
through
the
early
childhood
council,
the
evanston
early
childhood
council.
The
number
one
thing
they
said
they
needed
help
on
right
now
still
is
retention.
F
They
do
want
to
be
able
to
expand
because
one
of
the
things
we
we're
working
on
a
how
to
many
of
them
still
haven't
opened
up
the
full
number
of
slots
that
they
had
and
for
a
while.
That
was
impossible
because
of
space
limitations.
They
had
to
have
more
distancing
and
now
some
of
those
things
were
removed.
But
but
in
some
cases
they
are
also
just
they
are
unable
to
find
new
staff.
F
So
the
workforce,
development
and
trying
to
direct
people
into
to
child
care
is
really
important,
and
we
also
think
that
a
very
important
component
could
be
looking
at
spanish
speaking,
workers
who
could
be
in
child
care,
because
there
is
a
short,
a
real
shortage
of
of
of
dual
language
or
spanish
language,
child
care
places
that
can
really
do
the
dual
language
in
the
spanish
for
children
whose
families
speak
spanish.
F
So
that's
the
as
I
say,
that's
the
workforce
development
part
and
we
are
also
working
on
yet
another
thing
we
don't
know
if
we
can
figure
it
out,
which
is
simply
to
figure
out
a
way
to
give
child
care
centers,
and
this
would
be
focused
on
the
non-profit
and
the
ones
serving
low-income
children.
F
You
know
as
a
specific
amount,
which
is
to
figure
out
if
there
is
some
way
we
can
give
them
in
essence,
operating
support
to
help
overcome
any
of
the
other
challenges
that
they're
having
we
did
look
at
capital
because
they
were
saying
they
had
capital
needs.
What
their
capital
needs
were
were
not
really
capital
needs.
In
many
cases
they
were
largely.
F
Operating
costs
due
to
or
or
lack
increased
operating
costs
due
to
covert
requirements,
and
they
they
were
saying
things
like
well,
we
we
need
more
air
filters
and
that's
capital,
and
that's
not
what
the
government
thinks
of
this
capital
so
we're
looking
at
yet
another
program.
Tasheek
kerr
is
working
with
us
on
that
trying
to
figure
out.
F
If
we
can
again,
we
were
we're
looking
at
the
number
of
slots
that
organizations
have
lost
and
trying
to
figure
out
if
there
is
a
sort
of
cost
per
slot
or
something
that
we
can
figure
out
as
a
way
to
make
funding
available
to
cover
some
of
those
needs.
The
challenge
is,
we
don't
want
to
have
to
do
underwriting
of
each
organization
in
detail
to
try
to
figure
out
what
their
need
is.
F
You
can
create
a
class
of
of
entities,
businesses
or
providers
of
certain
sort
within
an
industry
and
create
a
model
and
use
it
to
not
have
to
go
through
the
rigmarole
of
really
underwriting
every
single
organization,
which
is
a
pretty
onerous
thing
both
for
the
organizations
and
for
staff
to
do
well.
So
those
are
all
in
the
works,
but
we
haven't
gotten
them
licked
and
we
wanted
to
at
least
get
the
first
need
that
the
child
care
providers
were
saying
their
first
and
greatest
need
at
the
moment.
F
F
Families
being
served
or
children
being
served
so
that
the
those
that
are
absolutely
full
pay
are
going
to
get
weeded
out.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
As
I
say
it's,
I
don't
think
there
would
be
very
many
of
those
and
but
we
can
certainly
put
something
like
that.
So.
F
There
are
some
organizations
like
bright
start,
which
is
in
downtown
evanston
that
I
don't
believe
takes
any
kind
of
now.
I
could
be
wrong
and
I
may
find
out
they
have
scholarship
programs
because,
frankly,
if
you
know
that
we
don't
always
know
everything
about
all
of
them,
but
that
is
an
example
of
one
that
I'm,
I
believe,
is
full
pay.
What.
F
There
are
no
scholarship
programs,
it's
just.
Basically,
you
have
to
have
the
income
to
be
able
to
pay
the
whole
child
care
fee,
which
probably
I
don't
know
what
those
fees
are,
but
I
mean
exactly,
but
I
know
that
they're
so.
F
Right-
and
we
were
simply
looking
at
the
number
of
providers-
the
number
of
slots
they
had,
because
we
we
we
developed
a
formula
based
on
the
20
who
responded
that
we
got
information
of
how
many
children
do
you
serve?
How
many
staff
do
you
have
serving
that
we
created
a
formula
and
is
it
exact?
It
will
be
different
for
every
child
care
center
or
provider,
because
there
are
different
requirements
for
levels
of
staff.
If
you
have
infants,
for
example,
your
infant
ratio
is
one
staff
to
four
children
at
mexico.
G
G
Was
pointing
out
is
that
the
premium
pay
guidelines
state
that
it
can't
exceed
90
000,
but
we
could
add
something
to
it
and
still
be
within
our
guidelines
to
say
that
the
the
average
wage
can
exceed
40
40
000
right,
which
will
reduce
the
610,
is
my
point.
G
And
ninety
thousand
dollars
sure
I'm
not.
I
would
much
rather
see
larger
contributions
to
lower
income
employees
because
I
think
that
actually
would
help
with
retention.
I
think
just
a
blanket
600.
G
G
H
Right
so
then,
your
real
point
is
that
we
should
give
more
than
600
to
or
1200.
I
don't
get
what
what
you're
you're
you're
still
saying
there,
because
a
child
care
employee
who
works
at
a
place.
H
Let's
say
that
provides-
and
let's
say
this
is
one
of
the
lowest
paid
employees
in
the
city,
child
care
provider,
employees
in
the
city
and
they
work
for
a
child
care
provider
that
provides
services
to
30,
low-income
students
that
that
that
employee,
who
is
the
lowest
child
care,
lowest
paid
child
care
provider
employee
in
the
city,
would
still
only
be
eligible
for
600
under
the
current
guidelines.
H
G
F
G
F
B
F
G
I
I
still
say
that
that
we
can
still
increase
that
by
decreasing
the
amount
of
people
that
are
awesomely
eligible.
Now
I
I
do
understand
where
the
600
and
1200
come
from,
but
that
is
still
restricted
by
the
500
000.
That's
in
the
program,
because
if
you
do
the
math,
I
think
it
came
to
500
and
some
thousand
dollars
over
the
half
million,
but
it's
an
ss.
You
know
we're
it's
an
estimation,
so
you
know
it
could
be
higher.
Could.
G
H
Yeah
but
you're
the
same
thing
for
another
business
that
only
serves
30
low-income
folks.
If,
if
your
goal
is
retention
that
same
worker,
who
makes
even
less
than
the
place,
that's
given
a
worker
1200
that
worker
that
makes
less
than
that
is
still
only
getting
600
under
this
plan
because
they
happen
to
work
for
a
provider
that
that
does
not
serve
a
whole
lot.
Over
a
majority
low
or
moderate
income
pupils.
A
G
F
We
could,
but
the
challenge
we
have
is
a
lot
of.
This
is
a
very
large
estimate.
You
know
we
simply
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
we
are
extrapolating
I'll
give
you
an
example.
We
have
a
relatively
low
number
of
children
per
for
workers,
because
we
were
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
you
know
like
if
we,
if
we
did
an
average
based
on
all
the
slots
and
and
kept
it.
F
If
you
look
at
the
total
number
of
children
in
child
care
and
how
many
of
them
are
likely
to
be
older
and
not
infants,
you
know
we're
we're
making
decisions
that
we're
we're
being
we're
risking
having
it
over
we're
risking
having
an
estimate
that
we
would
be
off
in
the
in
a
way
that
would
not
allow
us
to
even
provide
the
level
of
funding
that
we
are
proposing.
I
mean
we,
I
I
don't
know
that
we
will
have
anywhere
near
610
eligible
people.
F
F
There
are
a
lot
of
assumptions,
but
that's
the
only
way
we
could
get
to
any
kind
of
putting
together
a
program
we
couldn't
have
one
that
is
and-
and
I
I
believe
we
have
to
say
that
we
would
be
asking
for
up
to
500,
000
or
some
figure
and
then
say,
as
we
said,
is
if
we
get
well
not
even
if
we
get,
we
can
bring
back
what
we
have
gotten
to
the
committee
and
make
sure
that
you
believe
that
that
what
we've
the
program
makes
sense.
F
One
of
the
challenges,
too,
is:
if
we
ask
if
we
have
to
ask
for
every
child
care
workers,
income
or
something
like
that
and
try
to
figure
out
the
different
levels
we
make
something
that
is
really
unimplementable,
and
that
is
one
of
the
biggest
problems
with
a
lot
of
grants
that
they're
impossible
to
actually
implement.
I
H
I
think
this
will
really
clarify
for
council
member
burns,
so
sarah,
the
the
workers
that
are
eligible
to
receive
this,
you
know
whether
it's
600
or
1200.
These
are
the
front
line
workers
that
are
working
directly
with
children
correct
this
wouldn't
be
management.
H
F
H
Yeah
and
so
even
yes,
so
that
that's
just
what
I'm
pointing
out,
I
think
for
councilmember
burns.
The
the
confusion
may
be
that
even
if
we
did
exclude
people
making
over
50
000,
we
still
wouldn't
really
move
the
needle
on
who
we're
talking
about.
G
E
F
G
G
It
just
no,
no,
I
don't
want
to
yeah,
no,
no
we're
good,
and
I
mean
if,
if
those,
if
those
child
care
providers
do
have
the
money
to
provide
premium
pay
for
their
employees
without
this,
then
there's
merit
to
what
councilman
marie
is
saying
100,
so
because
that's
also
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
it's
like
we're.
Trying
to
these
are
public
funds,
we're
trying
to
match
it
with
the
greatest
need.
G
I
mean
that's,
that's
just
what
everything
we
do,
whether
it's
tip
funds
cdbg
like
we're,
always
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
funds
to
address
real
need
in
ways
that
wouldn't
otherwise
be
addressed
without
our
intervention.
So
if
there's
merit
to
what
he's
saying,
then
I
can
go
along
with
it.
F
F
Can
be,
can
look
quite
high,
but
it
actually
is
still
requires
a
large
family.
Then
you
know
so
if
you're
a
family
of
five
or
six
or
seven
or
eight,
it
goes
wow
100
almost
134
thousand
dollars,
but
you
know
that
there
really
probably
aren't
that
many
eight
person,
families
that
we're
going
to
be
finding,
but
we
could
put
if
we
were
to
put
a
minimum
level
on.
F
Super
low
income
people
or
but
provide
a
very
important
service
from
an
economic
development.
I
mean
an
economic
standpoint.
An
example
is
some
of
the
originally.
The
state
didn't
provide
any
assistance
for
part
day
programs
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
important.
There
are
people,
for
example,
you
may
have
somebody
who
isn't
super
wealthy
but
is
staying
home
and
working
part-time
and
puts
a
child
in
a
part-time
program,
so
they
were
saying
like
wait.
A
minute
you've
ruled
out
flexibility
for
people
who
are
trying
to
balance
their
home
life.
F
So
that's
I'm
it's
difficult
to
come
up
with
all
the
examples
that
we
were
given
when
we
were
talking
ab
with
providers
of
the.
Whenever
you
put
in
something
that's
very
rigid,
we're
fight,
we
were
finding.
We
were
potentially
ruling
out
organizations
that
really
were
providing
an
important
service
that
allowed
people
to
manage
and
not
to
high
income
people,
but
not
necessarily
to
the
lowest
income.
People
too.
So
yeah
one
of
the
challenges
is
it
as
child
care
is
expensive.
As
chair
old
prices,
everybody
feels
it.
G
F
No
part
tape
there's
their
part
day.
Child
care
programs
are
eligible
for
this.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
it
just
because
there
are
a
lot
of
programs,
various
reasons
that
don't
receive
the
child
care
subsidies
from
dhs.
A
lot
of
it
is
there's
a
lot
of
administrative
requirements
there
and
they
might
not
meet
it
for
a
myriad
of
reasons,
and
that
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
they're
not
serving
you
know.
Lower
moderate
income
needs
worth
noting
this
moderate
level
of
income.
All
of
these
children
would
be
eligible
for
all
kids
and
chip
I
mean,
and
so
like
on
the
healthcare
side.
G
B
F
F
The
a
lot
of
the
part
day
programs
are
also
really
they
are
non-profits
and
they
are,
you
know
the
ones
that
are
usually
working
out
of
a
church
facility
and
things
like
that
and
and
you
know
so
they
really
they
are
not
making.
F
They
are
not
charging
a
ton
of
money,
and-
and
I
would
guess
there
I
mean
my
children-
went
to
northminster
nursery
school.
I
don't
think
they
were.
You
know
that
this
was
it.
It
is,
it's
not
a
a
high
paying
or
always
wealthy
people
that
are
being
served.
G
And
so
it's
safe
to
say
that
we
wouldn't
be
giving
premium
pay.
The
indians
are
giving
this
these
funds
an
institution
that
would
have
the
ability
to
do
this
on
their
own
without
raising
you
know,
cost
on
families,
child
care
calls
for
families.
D
Big,
a
chair,
yeah
taking
it
back
to.
I
think
the
motivation
is
behind
the
the
pay
itself
for
the
bonus
itself,
which
is
retention
for
these
workers
in
these
agencies.
Do
we
have
an
estimate
on
what
the
impact
of
that
would
be?
How
many?
D
What
percentage
we
would
work,
workers
we
would
or
child
care
providers
we
would
essentially
retain
because
of
these
types
of
grants
like
do
you
know
what
the
effect
of
this
will
be.
F
Sometimes
you
do
things
based
on
logic
models
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
other
organizations,
including
the
state
that
have
done
this
and
we're
hearing
from
the
child
care
providers
that
this,
because
we've
talked
these
levels
of
you
know,
we've
talked
about
the
levels.
There
are
people
who,
in
the
child
care
industry
who
are
groups
that
were
not
interested
in
really
having
multiple
levels.
They
thought
it
should
be.
E
C
F
F
You
know
with
some
the
restrictions
that
they
have
to
be
front-facing
and
stuff,
but
doing
their
own,
and
we
did
not
necessarily
think
that
was
a
great
idea
for
one
thing
it
is,
it
makes
it
complicated
to
implement
and
to
prove
who
has
done
what
and
and
to
make
sure
that
the
what
we
think
we're
supporting
is
actually
being
done,
but
it
really
derek
it's
really.
I
can't
really
say:
oh
yeah,
we
think
we're
going
to
retain
80.
F
It's
it's
just,
not
something
that
I
I
feel
we
have
any
information
that
would
really
make
a
projection
like
that.
Now
there's
nothing
that
says
that
an
agency
can't
say
you
know
you
will
that
you
know
break
out.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
said
if
they
wanted
to
break
something
into
two
payments.
You
know,
if
you
say,
oh
you're,
going
to
get
your
second
payment
at
the
you
know
toward
the
end
of
the
six-month
period.
F
Then
they
could
do
that
if
they
wish
to
as
a
retention,
we
discussed
doing
something
like
that
and
we
actually
even
discussed
whether
or
not
we
could
implement
a
payment
program
through
the
system
that
the
city
uses
for
general
assistance,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
it.
The
child
care
centers
were
just
like
that.
That
would
have
been
very
complicated.
F
We
would
have
got
had
to
got
a
lot
more
information
and
detail
about
how
to
who
was
eligible
and
give
them
cards,
and
they
could
be
paid
and
again
it
just
became
something
that
wasn't
implementable,
given
the
scale
of
what
we're
doing.
If
you're,
giving
somebody
a
subsidy
like
ga
every
month,
it
makes
sense
to
have
that
sort
of
a
system,
but
it
just
wasn't
implementable
in
a
in
a
practical
way.
F
If
we
were
to
try
to
do
that
for
child
care
workers
and
say,
do
quarterly
payments
or
something
like
that,
it
just
the
complexity
of
it
outweighs
the
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
a
way
that
you
know
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
implement
that
sort
of
stuff,
and
neither
do
we
have
to
have
a
lot
of
personal
information
and
do
a
lot
of
setting
up
of
accounts
and
things
like
that.
That
just
wasn't
feasible.
B
I
think
I
heard
from
council
member
burns
and
council
member
reed
a
desire
for
staff
to
go
back
and
sort
of
understand
the
income
breakdown
of
those
served
and
sort
of
get
a
better
sense
of
you
know
we
sort
of
know
about
a
little
about
half
serve
51
low
and
moderate
income.
What
is
that
out
like?
What
is
what
did
the
others
sort
of
look
like
and
then
you
know?
H
I
wouldn't
say
that
that's
the
task
I'd
want
staff
to
do.
I
think
you
know
on
that.
We
can
just
design
the
program
to
make
sure
it
captures
that
I
don't
need
to
have
to
have
that
ahead
of
time,
but
what
I
would
like
to-
and
maybe
I
think
I
just
heard
sarah
say
this-
I
would
just
really
love
to
understand
the
impact
of
this
program,
and
so
I'd
more
so
like
to
know
what
we
think
this
will
do
to
actually
increase
retention.
B
B
B
Actually,
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
pull
a
number
out
of
thin
air
right
sort
of
like
to
understand
the
number
of
children
being
served
to
certified
those
facilities
and
and
how
many
facilities
and
workers
were
talking
about.
But
I
do
also,
I
don't
know
if
dhs
or
tcfs
have
any
information
from
the
state
program
on
retention
or
maybe
even
the
child
care
providers
they've
received
that
they
might
know
they
might
have
their
own
records
of
after
this
you
know
they
saw.
We.
F
F
Work,
we
have
a
lot
of
different
worksheets.
I
think
we
jessica
we
had
about.
We
had
20
organizations
that
we
got
the
last
survey
that
our
our
sort
of
sample
survey,
which
was
you
know
how
many
children
do
you
serve?
How
many
staff
do
you
have
would
be
you
know,
gateways
and
and
how
many
what
percentage
are
low
and
moderate
income?
F
So
that
was
how
we
got
at
this,
and
that
was,
I
think,
a
fairly
representative
group
of
the
child
care
providers
that
we
generally
work
with
in
social
services,
the
ones
that
do
provide
a
relatively
high
level
of
service
to
low
and
moderate
income.
C
I
would
say:
that's
correct:
sarah.
We
were
able
to
capture
information
from
seven
home
care
providers
and
that's
not
a
population
that
we
hear
from
very
often
and
those
home
care
providers
serve
predominantly
low,
moderate
income
families.
C
We
also
in
an
attempt
to
structure
this
program
several
months
ago
with
child
care
agencies
to
understand
their
pre-coveted
budgets,
their
budgets,
sort
of
for
2020
and
then
2021,
the
populations
they've
served
and
the
top
levels,
and-
and
so
I
could
say
you
know,
while
we
did
the
number
of
of
children,
the
number
of
slots
were
per
children.
C
When
we
were
coming
up
with
this
budget,
we
did
pull
that
off
of
the
dcfs
list,
but
we
are
looking
at
for
for
a
lot
of
our
major
providers
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
pulling
up
some
of
those
spreadsheets.
Now
again
the
population
they
served
and
how
many
low
moderate
income
families
they
worked
with,
how
many
total
children
they
have,
how
many
little
slots
they
have.
C
And-
and
we
did
and
we
do-
we
do
believe
that
the
majority
of
our
child
care
agencies
who
responded
are
serving
you
know,
certainly
a
low,
moderate
or
moderate
income
group.
C
We
didn't
hear
from
everyone
and
we
can
certainly
go
back
and
try
and
get
information.
C
C
The
the
agencies
are
very
very
stressed
out
and,
and
so
to
even
gather
as
much
information
as
we'd,
like
from
from
a
broad
population
of
agencies,
can
be
very
challenging
and
very
burdensome.
D
F
Do
think
we
could
I'm
happy
to
try
to
find
out
if
we
can
get
any
information
either
from
our
providers
or
from
the
state
if
they
have
any
information
on
the
impact
on
retention?
F
So
you
know
you
don't
really
have
we
don't
really
have
good
contacts
at
the
state
directly,
but
maybe
some
of
the
child
care
workers
do
child
care.
Centers
do
or
do
you.
B
B
Oh
perfect,
I
will
connect
you
with
their
chief
of
staff
this
evening
great
that.
C
I
can
say
if
the
committee
is
interested
that
that
you
know
these,
these
bonus
pay
programs
are
happening
across
the
country.
There's
a
and
I
can
provide
more
information
if
people
would
like
georgia,
for
example,
that
state
is
working
to
give
out
three
rounds
of
funding
for
a
thousand
dollar
bonus
per
staff.
Member
again
across
the
board
in
minnesota,
they've
got
a
scholarship
program
available
in
bonus
pay
that
pays
an
average
of
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
C
So
there
is
quite
a
range
and
in
dcfs
infant
and
toddler
workers
are
eligible
for
10
000
to
14
000
again
over
a
period
of
time,
depending
on
the
position
so
room
assistants
are
are
paid,
are
provided
a
lower
bonus
than
room
leaders
and
and
teachers
for
example,
but
these
are
not
slfr
s
funded
programs.
Necessarily
these
are
state-run
programs
and,
and
so
there's
a
much
wider
range
of
the.
F
As
a
part
of
arpa
for
many
many
things
for
child
care
for
mental
health
and
all
those
things,
so
there
are
programs
being
done
by
a
lot
of
states
and
some
of
the
very
large
cities
I
think
it
was
washington
dc
was
giving
its
you
know
they
were
saying
we're
gonna,
give
all
our
child
care
workers
ten
thousand
dollars
in
a
year,
and
you
know
people
said
well.
How
are
you
gonna
sustain
that
and
I
said:
well,
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
that,
so
that
you
know
this
is
a
challenge.
F
It
really
is
a
challenge,
but
we
will
see
if
we
can
get
information
on
the
impact
and
even
if
it's
anecdotal,
we'll
talk
to
the
you
know
not
quantifiable
in
terms
of
any
projectable
things
we'll
see
if
the
child
care
providers
can
our
evanston
child
care
providers
can
give
us
some
information
on
the
impact
that
they're
that
the
state
funding
that
they
may
probably
all
have
applied
for
and
gotten
by
now
would
have
had
on
them,
and
if
there
were
any
who
didn't
apply.
F
If
they
are
aware,
you
know,
if
are
they
having
more
trouble,
we'll
see?
If
we
can
get
information
on
that
and
we'll
bring
back
whatever
we
can,
would
you
like
us
to
do
any
further
work
on?
I
don't
know
if
we
have
one
of
the
things
that.
F
Jessica-
and
I
could
do
is
from
our
various
questions
and
and
things
we've
polled
child
care
centers
on.
We
can
try
to
see
if
we
have.
F
If
we
look
at
all
that
information,
if
we
have
more
information
or
more
information
on
what
percentage
of
child
care
centers
are
serving,
what
percentage
of
low
and
moderate
income
children
and
then
maybe
say
if,
if
you
do
want
to
consider
a
minimum
number
or
percentage
of
low
mod
that
you
would
like
to
see
served,
we
could
try
to
come
up
with
something
that
we
think
would
be
an
appropriate
level.
If
that
were
to
be
added,
would
those
things
be
of
help
to
the
committee
and
are
there
any
other
things?
F
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
other
questions.
I
know,
and
we
appreciate
the
questions.
It's
it's
important
to
talk
these
things
through,
because
it's
you
know
it's
kind
of
this.
This
is
the
the
one
of
the
things
about
these
stimulus
bills
is:
is
you're
creating
the
plane
as
you're
flying?
It
was
the
expression
they
used
for
the
neighborhood
stabilization
programs
that
were
the
mortgage
foreclosure
crisis
ones.
F
You
know
it's:
just
things
are
being
done
that
nobody's
done
before
and
and
you
don't
always
have
the
data
that
you
would
like
to
have,
but
you
still
need
to
think
it
through
and
and
feel
comfortable
with
how
we're
allocating
funding.
So
it's
important
to
us
to
try
to
get
what
additional
information
we
can.
That
will
facilitate
the
committee's
decision.
Is
there
any
any.
G
Real
real
quick
are
there,
so
are
there
providers
that
could
get
funding
at
the
600
level,
who
aren't
providing
child
care
for
any
low
to
moderate
income.
F
We
did
not
put
a
a
a
lower
threshold.
We
just
said
that
we
they
could
be
eligible
for
that,
and
we
could
look
at
a
way
to
weed
out
organizations
that
are
doing
absolutely
no
low
and
moderate.
G
Income
yeah.
Sorry,
I'm
coming
around
a
lot
slower
today
on
this
discussion
that
I'll
point
to,
but
so
if
that
is
the
case,
I-
and
that
was
the
point
councilman
reed
was
trying
to
make.
I
agree
with
that
and
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
achieve-
and
I
think
that's
the
way
to
do
it
is
how
can
we
find
a
way
to
narrow
the
eligibility
or
the
target
who
we're
trying
to
target
so
that
we
can
provide
larger.
G
All
those
other
examples
that
we
provided,
I
know
a
lot
of
those
were
state-funded
programs.
They
they
made
larger
contributions
to
the
employees
that
I
think,
could
help
with
retention
right.
If
you
get
three
one
thousand
dollar
contributions
that
can
make
a
difference
so
yeah.
So
I'm
sorry
coming
around
late,
but
yeah.
H
That
I
think
our
chair
gave
a
pretty
good.
I
think
that,
based
on
we
can
confirm
this,
but
I
think
just
based
on
the
standards
of
how
you
want
mixed,
I'm
applying
this
to
just
like
mixed
developments-
and
you
know
you
know
so
I'm
assuming
that
this
math
kind
of
plays
out
the
same
here
that
you
want.
At
least
you
know
kind
of
30
30
30
to
have
a
fairly.
H
You
know,
equitable
mix
30
of
you
know,
folks
being
at
least
that
low
moderate
income
threshold.
So
I
think
that
could
be
the
minimum
threshold
to
even
receive
the
600
is
where
I'd
be
happy
to
put
that
minimum
threshold.
H
B
F
B
F
You
know,
bent
over
backwards
to
try
to
get
us
information
and
to
even
get
information
from
some
of
the
other
providers
and
jessica
personally
called
and
followed
up
with,
and
you
know,
got
hold
of
our
home
care
providers
which
we're
really
not
responding
to
the
list.
So
we've
we've
tried
to
do
a
lot.
I
I
just
don't
know
how
to
get
information
from
the
providers
in
advance
to
be
able
to
say
what
that
is.
F
And
then
what
jessica-
and
I
do
feel
is
going
to
happen
is
when
we
we're
going
to
put
out
the
application
saying
this
is
the
x,
what
the
sort
of
idea
of
what
the
funding
levels
will
be,
but
how
much
it
will
actually
be
available
will
be
subject
to.
However,
many
organizations
actually
fall
into
that
into
those
categories
and
how
close
our
estimates
are
on
the
numbers
of
total
teachers
too.
So
so
that's
one
of
the
the
biggest
challenges.
As
I
say
we
just
it
would
be.
F
It's
kind
of
like
saying
how
many
small
businesses
might
need
assistance,
and
you
know
that
have
lost
40
percent
of
their
revenue
and
trying
to
estimate
how
many
it
is
without
really
having
any
way
of
doing
it
and
but
they're
not.
G
This
would
increase
our
chance
of
being
able
to
provide
future
funding
rounds
for
premium
pay
with
with
the
same
budget
correct
if
we
made
these
changes.
F
It
would
increase
our
ability
to
give
them
additional
premium
pay.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
at.
F
It
would
make
it
easier
to
implement
I
I
don't
the
whether
or
not
how
much
more
we
could
extend
premium
pay
is
something
I'm
not
really
prepared
to
try
to
make
a
recom
any
comment
on.
At
this
point
we
had,
I
mean
the
half
a
million
that
is
budgeted
in
a
bucket
for
it
right
now
we're
saying
we're
devoting
to
this
program
because
it
does
seem
to
be
the
most.
F
What
this
is
one
of
the
most
needy
groups
of
of
people
who,
because
child
care
workers
are
very
low
income
in
general
and
they're
most
of
the
providers
are
non-profits
or
extremely
small
businesses
that
are
almost
subsistence.
You
know
many
of
the
people
who
have
a
home-based
care.
F
Service,
don't
make
a
lot
of
profit.
It's
almost
in
some
cases
it
allows
moms
to
stay
home
with
their
own
children
while
taking
on
in
other
children.
That's
what
it
frequently
is
started
out
as
the
motivation
for
opening
in
home
child
care.
Centers.
As
I
understand
it
or
can
be
so
I
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
say
that
it
could
help
us
implement
future.
G
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
off
of
the
math
the
610
times
what
you
said
we
paid
like
580
000.
So
if
we,
if
we're
providing
less
people
less
providers
with
premium
pay,
we
should
have
additional
funds
might
have
additional
funds
for
future
rounds.
But
I
think
kathy
has
her
hand
up.
B
A
Kathy
to
know,
once
again,
what
is
some
of
the
suggested
timetable,
implementation
timetable
for
for
this?
That's
it
because
I
I
know
that
we're
now
into
summer,
children
are
out
of
school,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
we're
trying
to
get
the
most
people
that
are
paid-
the
least
some
funding,
some
additional
funding
for
issues
of
retention.
C
So
this
is
our
implementation
schedule.
If
the
committee
were
to
approve
the
budget
for
this
project
tonight,
it
the
budget
would
go
to
human
services,
the
human
services
meeting
in
july
and
potentially
city
council
at
the
end
of
july.
So
we
could
open
up
the
application
process
in
august
and
provide
updates
to
the
social
services
committee
in
september,
and
it
could
be
at
that
time
that
we
adjust
our
benefit
levels.
C
So
yeah
yeah,
oftentimes
applications
and
I'm
thinking
of
like
scholarships
for
for
camps,
for
example,
are
sort
of
first
come
first
serve,
but
our
goal
with
this
was
really
to
hold
the
application
open
for
potentially,
you
know
a
significant
chunk
of
time
to
give
as
many
providers
the
opportunity
to
apply,
especially
those
who
are
home
care
providers
and
who,
who
we
may
have
trouble
reaching
right.
C
We
want
to
be
sure
that
we're
really
reaching
providers
who
are
most
needed
most
in
need
right
and
not
just
the
biggest
and
the
first.
We
we
learned
from
the
payroll,
the
the
states
or
the
the
fed's
ppe
program.
That's
a
that's
a
bad
joke
here
on
a
thursday
night,
but
but
yes
I
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
C
So
we
could,
at
that
point
see
who
applied
and
sort
of
tweak
our
criteria
to
prioritize
agencies
surveying
a
30
percent
low
to
moderate
income
households,
for
example.
C
We
could
tweak
it
or
to
prioritize
agencies
that
primarily
employ
women
and
people
of
color.
Sarah
stop
me:
if
I'm
going
too
far
out
on
a
limb
and
then
depending
on
where
that
leaves
us
in
our
500
000
budget.
We
could,
you
know,
adjust
the
the
bonus,
pay,
the
premium
pay
levels
or
expand
our
reach
to
other
agencies,
depending
on
what
the
committee
potentially
has
the
appetite
to
do.
F
One
possibility
that
occurred
to
me
is
we
can.
We
can
certainly
say
that
we
expect
to
have
a
sliding
scale
if
you
will
of
support
that
would
be
tied
to
the
percent
of
children
who
are
from
low
and
moderate
income
families
and
give
sort
of
some
estimate.
You
know
like
and
say
that
this
has
to
be
will
be
finalized
once
we
actually
have
applications.
That
would
be
a
possibility
to
do
so.
F
We
would
be
requiring
that
they
all
give
us
that
information,
and
then
you
know
we
could
make
it
clear
that
there
would
be
some
threshold
of
low
and
moderate
income
that
would
be
under
the
51.
F
But
you
know
we
have
to
see
how
many
people
apply
or
something
like
that.
I
we'd
have
to
work
on
the
wording,
but
that
would
give
us
some
flexibility
to
really
say.
Oh
look,
we've
got,
you
know,
I
mean
we're,
not
gonna,
I'm
just
making
up
the
numbers
say
we
thought
30
would
be
a
good
second
number
and
we
find
that
a
bunch
of
centers
there's
almost
nobody
that's
at
30,
but
a
number
of
them
were
at
25
and
we
just
ruled
out.
F
One
of
the
I
can't
remember
which
center
it
was
made
a
huge
appeal
to
the
state
when
the
state
originally
was
not
going
to
do
part
day
centers
at
all,
and
they
convinced
you
know,
because
the
state
was
basically
well.
This
isn't
full-time
child
care.
Therefore,
these
aren't
people
who
really
need
as
much
help
and
they
explained
how
they
they
can
be
very
important
to
the
type
of
situation
I
was
talking
about
before.
F
It's
like
the
state
learned
from
that,
but
at
the
same
time
having
an
percentage
of
children
that
are
low
and
moderate
income
could
weed
out
the
ones
that
really
are
just
serving
people
who
I
mean
this
may
be,
are
using
it
more
as
a
only
as
a
socialization
tool
for
their
children
and
somebody's
at
home
full-time
and
doesn't
really
need
child
care
for
their
work
or
something
like
that.
F
That's
an
example
of
what
we
might
be
able
to
eliminate
that
kind
of
help,
but
I
don't
I
would
again
we
wouldn't
want
to
eliminate
providers
where
there'd
be
a
mix
of
those,
because
that's
that
mixed
income,
household
mixed
income
classes
and
and
experiences.
So
what
would
the
committee
we
could?
We
could
also
do
another
thing.
We
could
try
to
just
come
back
with
a
refined,
how
we
could
do
a
form
to
try
to
give
us
that
flexibility
and
present
that
to
the
committee
before
going
forward.
F
H
If,
if
I
can
offer
a
suggestion
chair
and
certainly
I
think
this
is
a
decision
most
appropriately
made
by
the
non-council
member
members
of
this
committee,
but
I
personally
think
that
this
would
be
fine
moving
forward
to
human
services
and
you
know
just
to
keep
the
ball
moving
and
then
dealing
with
it
at
human
services
and
ultimately
council.
But
as
someone
who
serves
on
both
of
those
bodies
that
might
be
kind
of
a
selfish
thing
and
so
because
I'll
still
have
a
chance.
H
So
I'll
really
leave
it
to
you
know
the
other
members
of
the
committee,
but
I'll
just
lay
that
out
there.
B
That's
helpful
council
member
reid,
and
I
was
thinking
especially
as
it
you
know
it's
still
working
its
way
through
it
gives
you
know,
I'm
just
looking
at
this
timeline.
We
push
it
back,
we're
really.
B
You
know
moving
further
and
further
out,
so
I
have
some
comfort
with
that
as
well,
especially
given
that
as
it's
further
refined,
it
would
still
come
back
through
the
committee
and
still
continue
to
be
worked
on
with
human
services
and
with
the
full
council,
but
I
will
pause
and
make
sure
that
we
hear
from
other
non-council
member
committee
members
as
well.
D
E
C
I
I
To
say
that
I
agree,
I
am
supportive
this
as
it
stands.
I
know
that
staff
did
a
lot
of
work
on
it,
I'm
supportive
of
it
and
yeah.
If
there's
further
revisions
that
need
to
take
place,
you
know,
maybe
that
can
happen,
but
I
I
just
feel
like
you
know,
these
are
the
workers
that
work
so
hard,
they're
underpaid.
I
B
Great
and
kathy
said
yes,
so
I
think
I'll
pause
again,
but
I
I
think
we
have
a
motion
we
could.
We
could
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
budget.
B
I
saw
you
looking
and
I
thought
maybe
I
don't.
I
don't
know.
C
Thank
you
so
so
there
was
a
move
to
approve.
B
C
B
Cheryl
frye.
Yes,
I
just,
I
really
think
whatever
we
could
do
to
support
these
frontline
workers,
who
have
been
doing
some
of
the
hardest
work
in
the
hardest
two
plus
years
imaginable.
I
I
fully
support
that.
D
A
F
You
thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
we
will
move
this
to
human
services
and
we'll
say
this
is
the
planned
structure,
but
the
application
will
go
out
and
we
will
come
back
to
the
social
services
committee
to
make
any
adjustments
and
that
that
we
are
asking
them
also
to
approve
that,
to
be
an
admit,
a
committee
level
decision.
This
is
kind
of
in
line
with
some
of
the
things
that
happened
with
cdbg.
F
By
the
way
you
know
the
city
council
approves
the
broad
allocation
of
cd,
the
cdbg
funding
by
goal,
and
then,
if
there
are
changes
at
certain
levels,
that
you
know
is
certain
like
tweaks
to
programs
that
are
funded.
That's
allowed
to
be
done
by
the
committees.
You
know
the
the
housing
and
community
development
committee,
because
taking
all
that
stuff
back
to
council
is
just
not
functional
and
the
full
council
trusts
the
committee
to
know
the
details
and
take
responsibility
for
that.
F
So
is
that,
am
I
understanding
that
correctly
and
how
we
will?
We
should
present
that.
B
H
It
sounds
the
tom's
good.
Wasn't
it
when
what
I
was
thinking,
but
that
sounds
like
a
perfect
plan.
F
Go
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
I
really
do
appreciate
all
the
discussion
and
the
input
I
I
jessica
and
I
really
value
it.
It's
it's
a
challenge
to
try
to
come
up
with
these
things
and
try
to
make
sense
of
them,
and
you
all
asked
a
lot
of
very
good
questions
and
and
made
us
think
about
things
and,
as
I
say,
I
think
we
will
have
flexibility
if
we
find
that
we
were,
we
will
look
at
putting
some
kind
of
indication
that
these
are.
You
know
the
the
application
is
for
assistant.
F
G
Instead
of
you
can
also,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
cook
county
thing,
but
I
I
just
would
really
to
me
that
even
who
it
goes
to
based
on
low
to
mind
doesn't
matter
to
me.
I
think
I
would
like
to
combine
this
with
additional
funding,
so
we
can
do
future
rounds
because
I
really
think
that's
what's
going
to
help
towards
retention
to
me.
G
This
is
again
a
good,
a
great
gesture,
but
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
do
much
for
retention,
and
so,
if
we
can
look
into
combining
this
with
county
funds
or
other
funds
or
even
making
a
larger
contribution
towards
just
that's
what
I'm
interested
in.
So
we'll
we'll
pick
the
conversation
up
in
human
services,
but
I
just
want
to.
F
Okay-
and
we
could
certainly
propose
that
this
is
going
to
be
partly.
You
know
that
this
is
something
that
would
be
implementable
again
in
sequence,
as
an
ongoing
thing
as
needed.
If,
if
you
would
like
us
to
put
that
kind
of
a
information
in
for
discussion
by
human
services,
so
it
brings
it
forward.
C
So
I
do
have
a
brief
staff
report.
I
I
recognize
it's
late
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
I'll
try
to
keep
it
under
10
minutes.
I
first
wanted
to
let
the
committee
know
that
stephen
vick
from
infant
welfare
society
who
received
an
award
a
75
000
award
for
the
teen
baby
nursery
program,
has
requested
to
use
a
portion
of
those
funds
for
his
baby
toddler
program.
So
the
teen
baby
nursery
is
located
primarily
at
the
high
school.
C
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
the
baby
toddler
nursery
is
at
the
infant
welfare's
main
location
on
main
street,
they
are
essentially
the
same
program
serving
a
very
similar
population.
The
baby
toddler
nursery
serves
parents
who
are
slightly
older,
but
but
I
wanted
to
bring
this
back
to
the
committee
said.
You
know.
We
believe
that
this
is
a
fine
use
of
funds,
and
you
know
so
I'm
just
letting
the
committee
know,
and
then
I
also
have
forgive
me.
One
more
slide.
C
Because
we
did
receive
our
long-awaited
cdbg
award
for
2022.,
so
our
total
award
was,
you
could
see
just
just
under
a
million
seven.
The
public
services
portion
of
that
award
is
15
of
the
total
award
plus
our
program
income.
So
we
actually
have.
Oh
I'm
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
have
my
number
here.
We
we
actually
have
about
280
000
260
dollars
to
allocate
toward
public
services.
F
Already
so
excuse
me
yeah
we're
in
good
shape,
actually
because
it's
well
within
it
is
actually
about
five
thousand
dollars
less
than
we
had
estimated
the
grant
came
in
lower
because
they
actually
cut
cdbg
a
little
bit
in
the
actual
bill,
but
our
program
income
was
higher
than
we
had
in
our
estimate.
Last
fall,
so
it
it
came
in
very
close,
so
it
really
has
no
impact
on
the.
What
we've
already
allocated
between
the
only
thing
it
will.
F
Is
it
just
trims
the
amount
that
was
left
for
supportive
services
by
about
five
thousand
dollars.
C
Well,
yeah,
so
so
the
committee
allocated
the
292.5
for
case
management
and
the
523
700
for
safetynet,
so
our
total
allocation
to
date
is
the
eight
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
two
hundred
but
yep
as
sarah
mentioned.
So
our
total
amount
available
for
counseling
for
supportive
services
is
forty,
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
five
dollars.
F
B
Right
you
guys
right,
I
we
did
say
I
would
have
another
opportunity
for
public
comment.
I
don't,
I
don't
think
you
see
anybody
right.
No.
B
Members
and
with
that,
we
will
adjourn
okay.