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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
of
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
zoning
ordinance
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
major
variations,
special
uses
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
Zoning
Administrator,
depending
on
the
type
and
matter
type
of
matter.
This
board
will
make
either
a
final
determination
or
send
its
recommendation
to
City
Council
Melissa.
Will
you
call
roll
please.
C
A
With
six
people
tonight
we
do
have
a
quorum.
Also
present
tonight
is
Zoning
Administrator
Melissa
Klotz.
This
is
a
formal
meeting
and
there
are
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time,
so
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
board
regarding
any
matter
on
the
agenda
will
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
appellant
next.
A
Persons
who
wish
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
may
do
so
at
that
time,
any
person
with
a
legal
interest
in
property
located
within
500
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
question
witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing.
When
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimony
and
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
appellant
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
a
closing
statement.
Then
the
board
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations.
All
testimony
will
be
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
A
Please
limit
your
testimony
or
statement
to
your
personal
knowledge
when
you
address
the
board,
please
state
your
name
and
address
and
sign
in
on
the
provided
sheet.
Our
meetings
are
audio
and
video
recorded.
Please
make
sure
that
you
are
at
a
microphone
when
asking
questions
or
making
statements
so
that
you
can
be
properly
recorded.
All
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
Any
matter
not
concluded
at
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
There
are
four
items
on
the
agenda
tonight.
A
A
So
there
are
three
other
items
on
the
agenda:
1905
Church
Street.
Are
you
guys
here?
Okay
and
10-30,
Davis
Street
and
524
Main
Street?
You
guys
are
here.
Okay,
all
right
everybody's
here
and
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
December
18th.
Has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
read
those?
Yes,
any
modifications?
A
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
I
will
note
that
those
not
voting
we're
not
at
that
meeting.
Moving
on
to
new
business,
which
is
1905,
Church
Street
Melissa,
will
you
read
the
oath
sorry
before
we
get
this
started,
everybody
who's,
gonna,
talk
to
me
tonight,
who's
come
on
come
up
and
testify,
raise
your
right
hand
do
swear
or
affirm
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings.
B
Jacqueline
B
Hoffman
lessee
applies
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
type
2
restaurant
spice
in
the
B
2
business
district
zoning
code,
section
6
933
and
the
O
w/e
West
Evanston
overlay
district
zoning
code,
section
6,
15
15,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
makes
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
Documents
included
as
part
of
the
record,
includes
special
use
application
submitted,
December,
12th,
2018
business,
summary
sustainability
practices,
worksheet
plaintiff
survey,
image
of
property,
aerial
view
of
property,
zoning
map
of
property
and
Deffer
meeting
minutes
excerpt
of
December
19th
2018.
B
F
Us
about
your
project,
we're
showing
does
restaurant
is
supposed
to
be
a
family-oriented
community,
build
Jamaican
cuisine
and
the
reason
why
we
wanted
to
do
that.
It's
because
my
mom
has
a
passion
for
cooking
and
we
thought
it
would
be
a
great
idea
to
give
back
to
the
community
and
liven
up
the
community,
because
a
lot
of
people
love
her
food
and
that's.
Why
we're
here.
A
H
H
H
H
H
H
F
We
plan
on
even
having
them
park
across
the
street.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
across
the
street
I'm
in
front
of
the?
Why?
Oh
you
right
there
and
from
those
places
usually
have
parking
just
not
at
the
hours
that
school
gets
out
and
they're
parking
on
brown.
So
it's
not
supposed
to
be.
You
know
so
combusted
so
to
get
their
food
and
then
they
leave
out
so
across
the
street,
from
the
high
school
and
in
front
of
them
and.
H
Let
me
intervene
I'm,
not
really
catering,
mostly
what
I'm
catering
is
for
the
neighborhood
I'm,
not
catering,
for
people
like
to
come
in
and
drive
in
and
stop
there
for
food.
Most
of
what
I'm
catering
for
is
like
the
school
is
here.
We
have
y-o-u
beside
here
and
most
of
the
neighborhood
around
there,
so
I'm
not
really
focusing
on
like
people
driving
by
stopping
by
to
pick
up
food
I'm,
mostly
focusing
on
like
just
the
environment,
the
neighborhood
people.
G
H
H
D
Do
you
know
if
y-o-u
has
opened
its
parking
lot
to
share
with
the
businesses?
I
know
that
there
was
some
discussion
with
the
Church
Street
Merchants
Association,
because
there
had
been
a
number
of
spaces
designated
when
the
high
school
owned
that
lot
right
at
the
corner,
and
why?
Oh,
you
had
initially
said
that
they
intended
to
still
honor
that
sharing
arrangement
I,
don't
know
if
they
have
formally
done
so.
But
that
might
be
something
that
you
would
want
to
check.
H
D
The
Church
Street
Merchants
Association
still
meeting.
Do
you
know,
can
you
beat
that
the
Church
Street
Merchants
Association?
There
was
a
group
that
included
C
and
W
and
ebony
salon,
and
you
know
a
number
of
the
businesses
right
there
in
the
neighborhood
that
were
meeting
regularly
with
with
some
staff
from
the
city
as
well.
So
that
would
be
worth
looking
into.
Also
I
did.
F
D
H
G
F
G
H
F
A
A
You're
gonna
go
to
the
store
and
bring
it
back
in
your
car,
bring
it
back
in
my
car
and
is
there
access?
Is
there
alley
access
behind
the
building,
yeah,
okay
and
so
you're
planning
on
bringing
the
food
in
the
raw
materials
for
your
delicious
food
in
through
the
back?
Yes,
okay,
and
how
about
deliveries
of
paper,
towels
and
napkins,
and
soap
and
plastic?
Where,
where
are
you
guys
buying
all
that?
Is
that
getting
delivered
or
are
you
going
to
the
store
and
buying
that
as
well
to
the
store
and
buying
all
that
stuff
too?
A
H
H
I
H
When
I
talk
when
I
came
to
the
last
meeting-
and
they
talked
about
on
the
phone
that
the
other
container
that
and
they
introduced
me
Alison-
there
are
email
and
say
that
it
would
be
much
better,
so
I'm
going
with
the
eco-friendly
mm-hmm,
so
I
have
more
research
to
do
and
that
we
are
am
I
going
to
get
it.
But
that's
what
I'm
looking
into
to
use?
What
for
more
information
I
want
to
research
it
more
and
find
out
where
I
can
get
it?
So
I
need
to
do
more
research
on
that,
oh
and.
F
H
A
J
Evening
I'll
call
a
sudden,
1821
Darryl
who
live
in
our
target
area
there
and
first
I'm
sorry
McCauley
I'm
here
to
approve
the
recommendation.
Julie
I
come
here
to
call
your
committee
a
rubber
stamp
for
all
developers,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
do
that
tonight.
Thank
you
for
encouraging
more
people
to
come
to
our
community,
but
these
types
of
businesses
I
do
appreciate
it
I'm
here
to
suggest
recommendation
for
the
variance
and
that
we're
lucky
to
have
this
building.
J
A
Before
you
go,
can
I
encourage
you?
Turnout
come
on
yeah,
so
can
I
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
your
Alderman
because
they
can
help
they
can
help
get
that
business
owner
to
apply
for
economic
development
funds,
which
is
how
the
the
building
on
the
corner
was
financed.
So
I
think
if
you
go
that
route
it's
a
new
year,
new
pot
of
funds
see
what
you
can
get
I
would.
A
A
I
I
You
know
measures
as
it
relates
to
the
carry
out
containers,
I
I
agree
with
such
recommendation,
because
when
I
see
those
styrofoam
clamshell
ashell
containers
I
just
you
know,
I
have
a
hard
time
with
that.
A
question
for
staff
so
on
the
sustainability
measures
that
can't
be.
Can
that
be
condition
and
in
our
approval,
special
use,
special
uses
or
no
like.
We
asked
them
to
sign
off
on
the
sustainability
practices
and
they
are.
They
have
several
options
that
they
can.
B
G
B
A
Not
one
she
can
start
cooking
anybody
else,
so
I'm
glad
to
have
you
coming
back
to
the
the
the
proprietor
coming
back
from
my
prospect,
it's
good
to
have
you
back
I
think
it's
again
exciting
to
have
more
homegrown
talent
here
and
encouraging
small
family-owned
businesses.
I
think
those
are
those
are
great
to
add
to
the
fabric
of
our
city,
so
there
are
seven
special
you
standards
for
a
special
use
and
I'm
gonna
run
through
all
of
those
sorry,
nine.
There
are
nine
of
them
and
I'm
gonna
run
through
them
number
one.
A
It
is
one
of
the
special
uses
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
It
is,
and
so
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
two.
It
is
in
keeping
with
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time.
The
comprehensive
general
plan
two
of
the
goals
are
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment
and
to
strengthen
our
economic
base
and
the
the
the
infill
of
this
business
into
this
location
certainly
achieves
both
of
those
goals.
So
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Number
three:
it
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
on
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
I,
don't
think
that
there
are
many.
There
aren't
many
special
uses
type
two
in
this
particular
area,
and
so
I
do
not
think
that
it
will
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
the
property
in
the
neighborhood,
because
it
is
filling
a
vacant
space.
It
certainly
will
increase
the
value
of
the
property
and
bring
more
people
to
the
area
which
can
only
help
the
other
businesses,
so
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
It
is
easily
accessible
via
bus
lines
and
by
feet
and
bikes,
and
so
I
do
think
that
it
is
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services,
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six.
A
It
does
not
include
that
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
The
testimony
is
that
the
bulk
of
the
business
is
expected
to
be
from
the
neighborhood
and
will
be
walked
or
Bight,
and
so
we're
not
expecting
a
ton
of
new
traffic
to
the
area,
so
that
standard
certainly
has
been
met.
Number
seven.
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
an
attractive
building,
and
that
does
not
apply
number
eight.
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features
and
that
stand
that
standard
does
not
apply
either
and
number
nine.
A
A
D
I
yeah
just
make
one
comment:
I
would
like
one
of
the
conditions
as
well,
because
that
is
such
a
busy
corner
and
because
there
are
so
many
students
who
go
by
and
may
run
in,
to
grab
a
veg
patty
or
some
such
thing
that
we
also
ask
for
litter
pickup
plan
so
that
we
know
that
the
litter
is
probably
dealt
with.
That's.
A
G
G
to
that
the
applicant
and
any
other
employees
working
on-site
be
required
to
use
parking
other
than
the
metered
parking
on
Church
and
dodge
and
three
that
the
that
the
project
otherwise
be
developed
in
accordance
with
the
documents
and
testimony
submitted,
including
with
respect
to
sustainability,
eco-friendly
materials
and
where
deliveries
will
be
taken.
Second,
it's.
A
A
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed
and
with
a
vote
of
five
to
zero,
you
will
go
to
City
Council,
with
a
recommendation
for
approval.
Good
luck
with
your
project
sharp
mr.
Mironov.
Can
we
have
you
back?
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
to
10:30
Davis
Street
Melissa.
Will
you
read
that
into
the
record?
Please.
B
Marty
class
property
owner
applies
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
type
2
restaurant
Phil's
coffee
in
the
d2
Downtown
retail
core
district
zoning
code,
section
611,
3
4,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
makes
a
recommendation
to
City
Council.
The
determining
body
documents
included
as
part
of
the
record
include
especially
used
applications
submitted,
December,
7th,
2018
business,
summary
sustainability,
sustainability
practices,
worksheet
plaintiff
survey,
image
of
property,
aerial
view
of
property,
zoning
map
of
property
and
dapper
meeting
minutes,
excerpt
of
December
19th
2018.
A
L
And
behold
here
you
are
yeah
excellent,
well,
I'm
glad
to
be
back.
My
name
is
Marty
class
I'm
in
Evanston
resident
and
the
property
owner
of
ten
thirteen
Davis
Street,
as
well
as
the
neighboring
property
at
10:26,
Davis
Street,
which
houses
tackle
Diavel
of
Lulu's,
five-and-dime
and
also
spank.
Oh
I
want
to
provide
a
little
bit
background,
the
prior
check
in
the
building
and
then
I'm
gonna
have
melt
from
Phil's
coffee
come
up
and
talk
about
Phil's
business
operations,
as
well
as
their
intent
to
kind
of
open
up
an
instant
location.
L
The
subject
properties
look
at
a
low
kated
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Oak
Avenue
and
Davis
Street.
It
served
as
the
studio
media
recording
studio
since
the
early
1980s
until
I
person
in
2015.
Since
then,
it's
been
vacant
and
I'm
excited
to
have
this
tenant
or
potential
tenant
come
in
and
occupy
the
space,
because
it's
a
cool
location,
cool
building,
single
story,
both
trusts
building
with
about
6,000
square
feet
in
the
process
of
undergoing
a
renovation
which
I'm
going
to
subdivide
it
into
two
units
of
north
unit
in
the
South
unit.
L
Both
units
will
share
in
a
closed
trash
room
at
the
rear
of
the
building,
offer
private
alley
exclusive
to
10:30
and
1026
Davis
and
Phil's
again
will
take
the
north
unit,
which
will
be
about
2,000
square
feet
and
they'll
have
their
main
axis.
Davis
Street
Phil's
is
a
california-based
coffee
shop
with
numerous
locations
out
there,
they're
looking
to
expand
Chicago
Mel
and
their
team
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
their
operations.
L
I'm,
not
a
coffee
guy
I've
never
been
to
Phil's,
but
what
I
see
online
makes
me
want
to
drink
Phil's,
because
they've
got
a
great
product,
offering
loyal
fans
and
really
do
a
nice
job
with
their
store
design
and
also
involvement
in
the
communities
that
they
have
locations
at
so
again,
I'm
excited
about
bringing
Filson
board
I
think
it'd
be
great
for
that
particular
corner.
It's
been
vacant
for
the
last
few
years.
It's
to
prime
the
building
to
probably
the
Gateway
to
get
into
that
downtown
corridor
to
keep
it
empty
and
I.
L
G
L
Is
Mel
to
address
it
because
she's
the
the
Phil's,
but
in
terms
of
parking
that's
available
there
are
the
parking
lots
you
just
next
to
Smiley's,
that's
short-term!
There's!
Also
the
parking
garage
down
the
street,
the
main
one
so
I
think
again:
they're
they're,
going
to
courage
their
employees
to
utilize
public
transport
as
much
as
possible,
given
you've
got
the
CTA
and
L
stop
assuming
CTA
and
metro,
stop
a
block
and
a
half
away,
and
additionally
there's
numerous
bus
routes
that
service
the
site.
So.
L
At
least
with
a
tenant
for
the
South
unit
correct,
so
it's
another
Iverson
business,
that's
looking
to
relocate
for
a
larger
space,
so
the
rear
you
know,
have
about
3,500
square
feet
space
and
that's
servicing
their
growing.
Their
practice
right
now,
they're
on
Davis
in
the
500
block,
and
maybe
only
have
about
a
thousand
1,500
square
feet,
so
they're
looking
for
a
larger
space.
L
M
Hi,
as
Marty
said,
I'm
Mel,
Finlay,
I'm,
VP
of
real
estate
for
Phil's,
coffee
and
I'm,
also
here
with
Jimmy
Fowler
chief
growth
officer
and
Kim
D
Guzman's,
our
head
designer
and
she's,
who
handed
out
the
packets
for
you
guys.
We
currently
are
based
out
of
San
Francisco.
We
have
45
stores
in
California
and
five
stores
in
Washington
DC
and
so
we're
hoping
to
add
for
stores
to
Chicagoland
this
year
with,
hopefully,
an
opening
here
in
Evanston
by
the
fall
and.
M
M
Our
mission
is
to
better
days
one
cup
at
a
time,
one
community
at
a
time,
and
we
hope
to
build
a
community
coffee
house
here
in
Evanston
where
people
can
connect,
gather,
work
or
study
and
warm
welcoming
and
vibrant
environments.
As
you
can
see,
through
the
booklet
that
you
have
there,
the
design
of
our
Evanston
store
will
be
bespoke
to
this
market.
To
this
neighborhood
it
will
be
unique
from
all
of
our
other
Chicago
opportunities,
but
central
to
Phil's.
M
Our
design
is
still
centered
around
a
community
living
room,
inviting
folks
to
stay
a
while
and
a
barista
bar
where
we
can
connect
with
our
customers.
With
that
personalized
cup
of
coffee,
that's
made
to
order
for
them.
Our
ethos
of
one
cup
at
a
time
is
because
each
cup
is
handcrafted
for
that
customer
and
made
to
their
liking.
So
that's
perfect
for
them
on
every
sip,
very
different
from
any
other
coffee
house.
So,
as
I
said,
we
have
over
21.
M
M
M
Who
that
is,
you
know
that
hasn't
been
decided
yet
yeah?
M
M
N
G
M
The
condition
yes
yeah
I
mean
it's
pretty
typical,
yeah
pretty
difficult
yeah
and
you
know
we
really
only
have
I
think
you
know
most
of
our
employees
or
ones
like
part,
one
full-time
which
is
our
store,
lead
and
then
the
rest
are
part-time
employees
that
work
up.
You
know
pretty
typical
retail
shift,
so
they
will
be
parking
all
day.
It's
not
ten.
Ten
employees
working,
you
know
all
day,
yeah.
O
Help
hi
I'm,
Jim,
MacPhail
I'm,
actually
with
Phil's
as
well.
Mel
and
I,
will
tag
team
also
2011
with
westerns
I'm
glad
to
be
back
and
very
excited
bring
our
concept
to
Evanston.
We
do
actually
have
a
lot
of
our
teammates
come
by
public
education,
work,
urban
concept,
we're
a
downtown
concepts,
so
we
do
have
a
lot.
We
will
work
to
have
some
sort
of
off-site
opportunities,
but
90%
or
more
of
our
teammates
usually
come
from
public
education
or
other
or
bike
I.
Frankly,
we
have
a
very
young
millennial.
Workforce
is
typical.
O
A
L
Microphone
fees.
There
is
no
direct
access
to
Ellie
from
the
North
unit,
just
because
that
corridor
would
suck
up
vailable
real
estate,
sure,
and
so
the
plan
is
to
kind
of
take
the
trash
off
or
out
of
the
Oak
Avenue
entrance
and
wheel
it
down
the
sidewalk
to
the
rare
private
alley
in
the
enclosed
trash
room.
There.
L
Obviously
there's
concerns
about
spillage,
so
there's
me,
you
know,
concerned
effort
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
ways
getting
on
the
floor
and
they
don't
have
the
type
of
I
guess
you
know
foods
that,
like
a
typical
type,
one
restaurant,
so
that
shouldn't
be
as
frequent
of
a
process
and
as
messy
of
a
process
in
terms
of
deliveries.
You
ask
the
planets
to
utilize
the
private
Ally
similar.
What
we're
doing
right
now
for
talk
with
Diablo
and
Lewis
and
five-and-dime.
O
Sometimes
twice
twice
a
day:
I
mean
most
of
it
is
compostable
ground
beans
that
we
try
to
read,
compost
and
but
most
of
our
by
Park
actually
goes
to
our
consumer
right.
So,
with
a
compostable
cup
compose
a
lid
compostable
silverware
everything
you
were
we're
very
green,
focused
coming
from
San
Francisco
and
having
to
have
gone
around
the
the
SF
City
codes,
which
are
all
very
compostable,
so
I
think
we're
a
great
plan
for
what's
going
on
Evanston.
So
we
don't
have
a
tremendous
trash
presence
and
most
is
recyclable
or
compostable
I.
E
L
Condition,
they're
biking
is
great
I
love
to
bike
bike
when
I
go
to
the
restaurants
next
door
and
go
to
work
the
question
of
do
we
want
for
the
bike
rack?
Yes,
the
question
is:
what's
the
most
logical
location,
there
is
a
bike
rack
that
is
permanently
across
the
corner
right
next,
to
kind
of
the
newspaper
stands
at
the
post
office
and
then
there's
also
a
seasonal
bike.
L
Rack
right
across
the
street
in
front
of
the
title,
unboxing
dapper
did
recommend
possibly
replacing
the
planter
box
on
the
bump-out
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
scroll
down
making
it
a
lot
Paige
and
to
me
personally,
I'm
kind
of
like
that's
too
prime
of
a
spot
to
put
a
bike
rack
worried
sometimes
right
now,
if
you
go
by
smiley,
there's
a
bike,
that's
just
been
abandoned.
That's
just
sing
right
there,
there
by
Krakens,
just
too
unsightly
and
quite
frankly,
I
walked
around
town
last
week
and
there's
no
other
bump
out
in
the
downtown
quarter.
L
L
Yeah,
so
they
were
suggesting
to
replace
that
planter
with
a
bike,
rack
and
I.
Just
don't
think
that's
visually
appealing.
We
could
put
it
to
the
south.
The
challenges
you
have
a
bench
there
for
public
bus
stop.
So
maybe
there's
some
space
in
the
parkway.
To
put
it
or
there's
been
also
discussion.
Maybe
we
put
a
single
loop
bike,
rack
down
in
front
of
or
in
front
of
the
restaurant
along
the
sidewalk
on
Davis
Street,
since
you
have
kind
of
wide
sidewalks,
oh
I'm,
open
to
it.
E
O
Be
the
way
you
see
it
now,
I
think
the
American
can
answer
that
as
well.
As
far
as
you
know,
part
of
the
energy
of
you
know
we're
very
energetic
concept
right,
so
we
don't
want
to
hi.
What's
going
on
in
our
coffee
house,
we
want
to
engage
the
environment
and
engage
community.
So
if
you
actually
go
to
the
floor
plan,
we've
been
very,
very
cautious
and
very
very
conscientious
about
making
sure
that
we
create
multiple
ways
to
use
the
coffee
house.
You
know
you.
O
We
want
to
make
sure
that
in
the
history
of
Phil's,
people
have
come
there
for
any
number
of
reasons,
one
of
which
is,
you
know,
then,
with
the
rise
of
work
from
home
and
I
wanted
a
place
to
work
for
a
few
minutes.
You
know
so
there's
a
lot
of
places
to
work
by
yourself.
There's
places
where
you
can
work
with
others,
there's
places
where
you
can
just
gather
and
have
a
community
conversation.
O
We
also
provide
lounges,
all
of
which
we
might
try
to
make
sure
we
take
full
advantage
of
the
day
lighting
the
windows,
so
we're
not
trying
to
blocking
the
windows.
We
want.
The
energy
to
come
in
and
come
out
of
the
store,
so
that
fenestration
should
all
be
clear
glazing,
so
you
can
see
in
and
see
you
out
and
get
that
date
lighting
into
the
walk
into
our
coffee
shop,
as
well
as
have
that
energy
come
out
this
free
front
to
make
sure
this
is
not
a
gateway
who
I
have
to
is.
L
So
if
you
go
scroll
on
down
this
is
the
the
latest
plans
that
were
submitted
to
the
city
and
just
actually
approve
the
last
Friday
group.
The
front
storefront
on
the
top
right
corner
shows
the
arrows
so
with
its
I'm,
getting
completely
new
windows,
the
whole
building
new
storefront
on
Davis
and
OH
la
Cantina
sliding
windows
that
will
open
up.
So
you
have
the
fixed
panels.
L
L
Take
any
requests,
songs,
alright,
so
imagine
this!
This
is
fixed.
This
is
fixed
in
the
center
to
slide
open.
So
if
that
will
be
on
both
sides,
just
on
the
Davis
Street,
so
it's
Jim
alluded
to
kind
of
bring
that
inside
out
and
the
outside.
In
and
obviously
we
know,
era
curtains
will
be
involved
as
well.
Okay,.
I
O
Know
so
I
think
that
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
from
our
standpoint
as
we've
looked
at
how
we've
grown
out
of
out
of
the
Mission
District
in
San,
Francisco
sensors
got
a
real
big
coffee
market
too.
If
we
go
through
a
lot
of
competition,
but
I
think
we're
also
just
a
different
different.
Take
on
coffee
I
think
that
if
you
knew
fill
or
Jacob
they're
Middle
Eastern
background,
if
you
look
at
our
food
offerings,
are
all
Mediterranean
based
right.
So
this
is
really
about
a
community
coffee
shop.
O
Not
necessarily
a
place
to
you
know,
get
something
with
a
lot
of
milk
in
it.
We
don't
do
that
all
right,
so
you
may
see
a
Starbucks
Pete
or
any
other
people
that
are
coffee
shop.
They
express
auto
milk.
We
actually
write
a
lot
of
coffee,
and
so
people
who
are
like
coffee
enthusiasts
tend
to
seek
us
out,
because
we
serve
a
very
hearty
up
to
1520
blends
of
different
coffee
grounded
in
front
of
you
poured
in
front
of
you
and
made
your
taste.
O
I
Additional
question
we
have:
we
have
some
vigorous
restaurant
scene
in
that
area,
for
which
I'm
grateful
for
one
hole
that
I
see
right
in
that
corridor
is
desserts,
I'm
curious,
whether
you'll
have
any
sort
of
sweet
items
on
your
on
your
menu
or
whether
you
would
consider
that
as
people
are
finishing
meals
in
the
surrounding
restaurants,
I
think
that
might
be
a
nice
addition
to
yeah.
We.
O
Do
we
carry
cookies,
cupcakes
vegan
options
and
you
get
breakfast
options,
so
you
know,
as
we've,
we've
had
a
lot
of
requests
in
some
of
our
markets
to
be
open.
Later
we
have
been
developing
as
a
young
company
kind
of
this
7:00
to
10:00
p.m.
menu
item.
We're
still
working
our
way
through
it
to
see
what
what
sells
and
what
doesn't
sell.
But
we
have
had
a
lot
of
requested
hey
after
dinner
of
a
dessert
or
hey
I
studied
to
get
in
or
having
a
business
meeting.
O
A
I
You
know
agree
it
sort
of
puts
a
cherry
on
top
of
what's
been
happening
there
and
so
I'm
excited
to
see
this
use
come
in
I
personally
believe
that
there's
still
room
in
the
the
coffee
market
here
in
Evanston,
just
based
on
my
own
personal
experience
of
trying
to
find
tables
at
the
area,
coffee
shops
during
the
day,
so
I'm
excited
for
this
project
and
look
forward
to
it.
Excellent.
G
D
C
E
Good
yeah
I
would
support
the
project.
It's
a
good
project.
I
would
still
recommend
putting
the
bike
rack.
You
may
you
have
young
people,
you
may
come,
they
may
come
with
the
scooter.
You
know
this,
so
you
have
to
take
care
of
that
and
you'll
be
you'll,
be
better
better
off
with
this.
So
yes
for
the
project,
I
have.
A
To
agree
with
all
the
comments,
my
colleagues
who
said
I
also
am
grateful
you're,
actually
thinking
about
what
that
corner
should
look
like,
meaning,
not
bikes
on
that
corner.
I.
Think
that's.
A
really
important
part
of
our
urban
fabric
is
what
those
corners
look
like
and
having
them
full
of
bikes
is
not
attractive.
I
do
think
we
should
I
would
like
to
condition
this
on
getting
a
bike.
A
Rack
and
I
know
that's
important
to
community
development
to
get
those
bike
racks
in
and
I
think
that
they're
looking
at
the
elevations,
it
seems
like
there's
an
opportunity
you
know,
and
some
green
space
south
of
the
bus
stop
to
be
able
to
get
a
larger
bike.
Rack
in
so
I
think
that
that
that
seems
doable
at
this
point.
I
would
also
wonder
if
we
should
extend
their
hours
to
10
p.m.
to
sort
of
be
the
same
as
taco
Diablo
and
Lulu's
and
five-and-dime
I.
A
A
With
that
we
have
nine
special
uses.
Nine
standards
for
special
uses,
the
first
one-
it
is
one
of
the
special
uses
specifically
listed
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
It
is
so
that
standard
is
met,
number
two,
it's
in
keeping
with
the
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time
again.
The
two,
the
primary
goals
of
that
comprehensive
general
plan,
is
to
promote
growth
and
redevelopment
to
strengthen
our
economic
base.
A
This
is
clearly
a
great
opportunity
for
that
to
further
strengthen
that
base
on
that
Street
and
to
redevelop
that
property
from
what
it
was
to
what
it
can
be
right
now.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three:
it
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
of
special
use
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
There
are
very
many
type
twos
in
that
immediate
neighborhood.
A
Most
of
them
are
type
ones,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
there
will
be
a
key
negative
effect.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
the
property
in
the
neighborhood.
This
is
the
perfect
business
for
that
neighborhood
and
it
will
fit
in
well
with
what
else
is
going
on
in
that
neighborhood.
Furthermore,
a
full
property,
a
non
vacant
property,
is
a
good
property.
A
So
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services,
there's
clearly
bus
transportation.
Nearby.
There
is
some
public
parking.
There
is
the
CTA,
so
that's
we've
got
a
lot
of
ways
to
get
there
and
be
served
by
public
facilities
and
services,
so
that
standard
has
certainly
been
met.
Number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion,
we're
in
the
middle
of
one
of
the
downtown
corridors
where
we
expect
some
traffic
congestion,
given
the
amount
of
retail
we've
got
in
the
area.
A
So
I
don't
think
that
this
is
going
to
cause
undue.
It
certainly
will
have
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
don't
consider
it
to
be
undue
so
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
seven
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources,
and
long
last
we
have
a
pretty
building
and
so
actually
making
bringing
this
building
back
to
life.
With
some
newer
windows
and
enlivening
the
facade
is
going
to
be
just
fantastic.
So
I
think
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
eight
preserves
significant
natural
uninvited,
which
does
not
apply
and
number
nine.
A
G
G
two,
that
employees
of
the
business
be
restricted
from
parking
at
the
metered
parking
and
park
elsewhere,
and
three
well
3
that
the
applicant
comply
with
the
city's
litter
collection
and
removal
plans,
and
for
that
the
property
otherwise
be
developed
and
run
in
accordance
with
the
testimony
and
documents
submitted.
Can.
A
B
The
applicant
requests
an
increase
of
zero
parking
spaces
where
an
increase
of
seven
parking
spaces
is
required
for
a
medical
office
and
where
a
parking
reduction
for
a
total
of
152
spaces,
including
25
off-site,
was
granted
by
planned
development,
ordinance
3200
14
zoning
code,
section
616
35
table
16
B,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
makes
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
Documents
included
as
part
of
the
record
include
special
use.
A
I
B
D
B
P
Us
about
your
project,
please
good
evening:
I'm
Ken
Swanson,
a
longtime
Evanston
resident
and
representing
Riverside
investment
and
development
of
the
developer
of
the
project
and
I'm
here
with
North
Shore
University
Health
System
to
discuss
the
special
use
permit
for
their
and
the
zoning
request
for
parents
request
for
the
proposed
immediate
care.
Sorry.
A
P
We
all
nine
stories
of
three
different
uses:
the
residential
on
the
top,
the
top
seven
stories
office
on
the
second
floor
and
retail,
on
the
first
floor,
parking
below
great
and
I
I'm,
also
here
with
John's
acara
with
IFS,
who
handles
the
construction
for
the
North
Shore
system,
we'll
discuss
some
of
the
other
factors
in
the
project
and
then
Tyler
Bauer
from
North
Shore,
which
cook
is
available
to
discuss
any
medical
and
operational
uses
on
the
project.
So
I
think
we
have
a
whole
team
here.
P
So,
as
you
described,
you
know,
the
property
is
part
of
a
PUD
and
and
with
the
Demps
remain
overlay,
and
some
of
the
concerns
with
that
and
I
think
we
also
had
our
Athletico
project
that
did
not
require
this.
This
permit
is
it's.
It's
a
slight
lead,
it's
a
different
use,
but
we
did
not
initially
think
that
we
needed
to
get
the
approval,
but
now
we're
here
and
we
know
we
have
to
get
it
and
so
you're
here
to
do
so.
P
The
the
medical
use
does
require
some
additional
parking,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
summary
of
what
we
have
in
terms
of
the
lease
and
parking
availability
in
the
building
in
terms
of
actual
use.
Our
apartments
are
ranging
about
90
to
95
96
percent
lease,
depending
on
the
month
that
were
in
right
now,
so
they're
pretty
much
fully
leased
and
occupied
our
office
is
100%
leased
and
then
the
retail
we
still
have
two
vacant
spaces
we're
building
out
and
we're
in.
P
We
have
a
lease
with
with
North
Shore,
and
then
we
have
one
lease
one
space
left.
Generally,
we
have
the
residential
parking.
Is
it
the
below
grade?
We
have
30
spaces
that
are
servicing
the
retail
with
the
office
uses
that
we
have
there's
no
real
parking
impact
to
them.
The
the
staff
does
not
Park
in
those
for
the
for
the
school,
that
is
on
the
second
floor
and
the
smaller
tenant
that
that's
on
the
tents.
The
office.
Tenants
in
the
second
floor
does
not
use
that
space
either.
P
You
know
that
that
cycles
in
and
out
within
those
30
spaces,
we've
also
worked
with
staff
too
and
kind
of
improve
some
of
the
circulation
in
the
parking
lot
to
remove
some
of
the
barriers
that
were
initially
put
in
in
accordance
with
the
zoning
to
make
the
parking
lot
more
functional
and
useful.
The
spaces
were
a
little
bit
with
some
of
the
protective
elements
that
we
had
around
the
the
girders
and
structural
system
in
the
parking
lot.
So
it
makes
it
a
little
more
flexible
now
with
cleaning
that
stuff
up.
Sorry,
just.
I
P
P
In
you
know,
lease
discussions,
but
I
am
NOT
in
lease
with
folks
with
anyone.
Yet
we
are
looking
and
working
hard
to
get
a
food
use
there,
and
maybe,
since
you're
kind
of
asking
about
you
know
other,
you
know
efforts
that
we've
had
on
marketing
the
space
just
to
clarify
a
few
things
there
we
have
probably
had
we've
probably
reached
out
and
spoken
with
450
to
500
leads
to
try
to
get.
You
know
tenants
in
the
in
this
space
and
in
the
in
that
corner
space.
It
is
a
challenging
retail
environment.
P
You
know
secure
new
tenants
and
operations,
and
so
we've
been
it's
we've
been
very
diligent
in
that
effort,
and
you
know
the
building
opened
in
October
of
2016.
We
did
have
an
existing.
You
know
lease
that
we
had
pre-leased,
unfortunately,
that
group
disbanded
and
we're
not
willing
to
go
forward
with
their
with
their
lease,
so
that
that
we
were
not
able
to
open
that
store.
They
still
operate
a
couple
of
stores
that
are
remaining,
but
they
were
opening
no
new
Opera.
So
that's
why
that
space
that
that
store
did
not
open.
P
So
we've
really
worked
hard
to
try
to
get
a
new
tenant
and
you
know
we
think
this
is
a
very
positive
use
for
the
community.
Bringing
these
kind
of
services
that
that
will
relieve
tension
on
the
you
know,
using
emergency
facilities,
st.
Francis
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
significant
positive
benefit
for
the
community.
But
I
can
turn
that
over
to
John
to
talk
a
little
more
about
the
the
operation
in
the
space
and
as
well
as
well
as
Tyler.
So.
Q
E
Q
Q
Northshore
has
had
a
long-standing
relationship
with
Evanston
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
This
will
be
a
clinic
basically
for
walk-in
care.
There
will
not
be
any
emergency
vehicles.
Reporting
to
this
location
will
have
three
exam
rooms,
one
x-ray
room
and
some
support
services
associated
with
that
in
about
3,200
square
feet
of
space.
Q
Q
Q
P
A
P
Q
Q
P
Didn't
we
got
to
look
at
the
technical
capabilities
of
that
system?
Okay,
that's
this
control
in
the
same
manner
as
our
garage
door,
that's
in
the
back
and
alley
access
right,
so
that
can
be
set
to
whatever
time
are
we
set
it
to
so
it
could
be
operating
from
eight
to
nine,
and
then
we
lock
it
so
that
that's
a
secure
area
at
night.
Okay,.
A
P
Q
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
with
dapper
was
really
the
idea
of
how
our
materials
can
be
brought
to
the
site.
The
have
brought
from
Evanston
hospital
to
the
site
in
a
van
Sprinter
van
type
vehicle,
there's,
no
box
trucks
or
anything
big
large
deliveries
like
that
outside
of
what
we
would
do
for
construction
purposes
and
all
those
items
will
be
brought
into
the
loading
dock
area.
There's
a
back
corridor
access
that
would
be
brought
in
through
the
back
corridor
into
the
space.
G
Q
There
is
a
same
sight,
same
style
of
truck
would
come
and
pick
up
waste
from
the
site.
We
have
an
area
that
waste
would
be
stored
in
the
in
the
facility
until
it's
brought
in.
They
would
come
directly
into
the
facility
to
pick
that
up
and
it's
managed
that
way.
So
how
often,
how
often
the
same
time
a
couple
times
a
week,
yeah
and.
I
Q
Q
We
would
go
through
all
the
normal
permitting
process
for
signage
with
with
the
city,
but
we're
looking
at
mural
is
some
kind
of
mural
product
that
would
promote
the
idea
of
health
and
wellness.
It
would
not
necessarily
it
would
not
be
a
advertisement
for
North
Shore,
so
we
want
we'd
like
the
idea
of
that
community
aspect,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
advertise
not
just
advertising
moisture
over,
not
doing
that.
We
would
put
on
murals
that
would
look
at
health
and
wellness
and
the
promotion
of
that
I
wonder.
I
If
there
might
be
some
consideration,
if
that's
in
fact
how
the
treatment
of
the
windows
go,
if
there
might
be
some
consideration
of
connecting
those
murals
or
whatever
messaging,
that's
on
there
with
the
businesses
in
the
main
Dempster
Street
area,
so
that
you
could
work
with
the
the
Business
Association
to
somehow
connect
with
the
businesses
in
the
court
or
in
encouraging
people
letting
them
know
of
what
other
businesses
are
in
the
corridor.
Sure.
P
Just
add
one
thing:
we
did
look
at
the
graphics
that
are
on
there's
a
art
school,
that's
at
I,
think
it's
maple
and
Davis,
or
perhaps
oak
its
Ritz
wherever
and
yeah
one
River
correct,
and
so
that
kind
of
style
of
an
of
an
item
that
is
non-commercial,
attractive
and
interesting,
would
and
and
kind
of
at
that
not
the
entire
window,
but
kind
of
a
3/4
height
to
provide
the
privacy.
But
you
know
it
provides.
Visual
interest
would
be
kind
of
the
effect
that
we're
looking
forward
to
for
this
application.
P
R
So
Tyler
Bauer
representing
North
Shore,
University
Health
System
1301
central
in
Evanston.
So
if
we
would
have
a
medical
emergency,
we
would
call
9-1-1.
Of
course,
we'd
provide
appropriate
treatment
as
we
can
at
that
location
and
would
leave
it
up
to
the
fire
department
and
the
paramedics
to
determine,
which
is
the
quickest
point
of
access
for
them,
which
I
would
imagine
would
be
through
the
front
door.
E
G
A
R
R
I
P
It's
it's
actually,
you
know
metered
parking
and
you
know
for
the
entire
length
of
the
Main
Street
area
in
front
of
on
the
Chicago
Avenue
side.
There
is
more
of
its
it's
blood.
There's
no
parking
there.
It's
not
a
bus!
Stop
the
bus.
Stop
is
on
the
other
side
of
Main
Street
on
the
north
side
of
Main
Street
in
that
corner,
but
generally
that's
not
a
no
parking
area.
P
So,
theoretically,
if
someone
drops
someone
off
and
drove
off,
that
would
be
the
most
likely
spot
to
drop
someone
off,
but
the
parking
lot
is
also
quite
close.
I
mean
it's
not
like.
That's
that
far
away
and
someone
could
be
dropped
in
there
and
walked
down
if
there
that's
another
possibility.
What's.
G
Mean
to
me
it
seems
like
the
parking
concern
expressed
in
the
letter
is:
okay.
You've
got
eight
designated
spaces
for
patients,
but
people
are
just
gonna,
pull
up
to
a
meter
and
pay
for
an
hour
of
parking
in
a
meter.
If
they
know
it's
gonna,
be
a
15-minute
stop
and
not
you
not
necessarily
utilize.
The
garage
parking
actually.
G
Think
but
I
think
the
concern
is:
we've
got
metered
parking
I'm
pulling
up
for
urgent,
urgent
care,
I'm,
not
gonna.
Unless
somebody
knows
there's
parking
in
the
garage
for
them,
then
they're
just
gonna
try
to
pull
into
one
of
the
metered
spots
and
that's
the
concern
of
the
neighborhood
is
so
how
will
you
promote
the
fact
that
there's
patient
parking
available
indoors
in
the
garage
free.
R
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
need
to
do
through
our
marketing
and
on
our
website,
so
that
patients
are
aware
of
how
to
get
to
the
location
and
where
they
can
find
parking.
We've
certainly
done
that
at
some
of
our
other
locations
throughout
our
system
as
well.
You.
I
A
D
That
in
the
dapper
notes,
they
specifically
said
that
there
would
not
be
that
they
would
not
be
able
to
provide
a
patient,
drop-off
location
right,
but
I
think
that
you
know
having
been
in
that
neighborhood
for
so
long
that
there
are
several
times
that
cars
pull
over
quickly,
stop
and
drop
off,
because
they're
dropping
people
off
for
the
El
on
the
metro,
right
and
so
I
think
that
it's
a
natural
occurrence
in
that
location
that
people
just
pull
up
to
drop
a
passenger
off
without
having
to
have
a
passenger
drop-off
I
would
further
submit
that
any
retail
use
that
would
be
at
that
location.
D
A
P
A
P
P
G
Just
looking
at
the
plan,
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
to
any
like
you're
these
immediate
care
places,
but
like
yeah,
there
are
three
exam
rooms
right:
it's
not
a
large.
It's
not
a
big
long
air
facility
yeah.
So
the
economics
of
what
it
is
yeah
means
eight
spaces
of
designated
parking
and
whatever
spillover.
The
thirty
retail
spaces
offers
is
probably
plenty.
No.
A
P
We
actually
do
to
send
data
to
the
city
on
our
third
anniversary,
because
we
have
certain
other
parking
restrictions
to
look
at
based
on
actual
results
which
we'll
be
doing.
You
know
August
September
of
this
year
and
we
actually
are
not
really
utilized.
We
have
some
car
lifts
and
them
in
the
in
our
residential
area,
which
we
plan
to
not
to
decommission
right.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
anyone
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
Nobody
here
who'd
like
to
come
on
up
give
us
your
name
and
address.
Tell
us
your
concerns.
Hi.
S
The
parking
in
the
neighborhood
is
very,
very,
very
tight,
as
I'm
sure
being
the
Zoning
Commission
that
you
are.
You
are
aware
that
it's
a
ton
of
apartment
buildings,
condominium
buildings,
all
that
sort
of
thing
high
concentration
of
people
you've
got
you
know
for
every
I
mean
every
building.
There
you've
got
probably
at
least
six
or
seven
cars,
and
so
all
of
that
adds
up
to
high
congestion
of
parking.
S
The
main
street
shops
right
there
on
the
block
that
this
this
clinic
would
be
open
on,
are
generally
foot
traffic
shops,
so
they're,
not
really
the
type
of
magnet
that
this
would
be
for
the
entire
area.
They
mentioned
that
the
only
other,
immediate
care
in
the
area
is,
is
we're
over
here
by
the
the
movie
Theatre
on
Maple.
S
And
if
you
want
a
couple
that
situation
with
the
fact
that
the
public
lot,
that's
right
by
my
building,
has
been
consistently
raising
the
prices
to
get
a
permit
to
park
in
there
and
effectively.
In
the
five
years
that
I've
lived,
there
has
nearly
doubled
the
cost
to
the
park
there
you're
giving
us
no
options.
You're
saying
you
know
it's,
it's
your
pricing
us
out
of
the
public
lot
you're
taking
away
public
parking
spots,
I
mean:
where
are
we
supposed
to
go?
I
have.
I
A
question
for
you
as
a
neighbor.
The
letter
that
we
receive
this
evening
talked
about
people
that
use
public
transit
in
Park
on
the
nearby
residential
streets.
Is
that
area
not
zoned
in
a
way
that's
going
to
discourage
or
disallow
those
that
are
taking
transit
to
park
on
those
streets
during
the
day
we.
S
Have
that's
something
actually,
my
wife
who's
watching
on
the
stream
brought
up.
There
is
no
like
permit
like
parking
in
that
area,
which
she
said
that
I
should
be
asking
for
at
a
bare
minimum,
and
this
hearing,
but
I
figured
that
this
hearing
is
probably
not
the
one
and,
you
probably
say,
go
talk
to
your
Alderman.
D
That
is
an
issue
for
the
parking
department,
but
most
of
the
streets.
I
know
that
on
Madison,
which
is
our
block
and
most
of
the
streets
right,
there
have
prohibited
parking
from
7:00
a.m.
to
9:00
a.m.
and
that's
how
they
try
to
discourage
the
commuters
from
parking
up
the
streets.
But
it
is
limited,
ly
successful,
as
you
might
imagine
so,.
J
D
G
So
I
totally
agree
with
you
just
for
the
record
and
I
avoid
to
be
honest,
coming
to
some
of
the
businesses
in
your
neighborhood,
because
parking
is
so
difficult
in
your
neighborhood.
It
really
is,
however,
that
they've
addressed
and
I
don't
know.
If
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
consider
the
designated
indoor
retail
parking
that
services,
the
building
seems
given
the
anticipated
number
of
patients
that
they
plan
to
serve,
which
their
materials
say.
S
A
couple
things
on
that
and
you
do
you
do
bring
up
a
great
point.
First
of
all,
it's
a
it's
an
urgent
care.
Again,
that's
going
to
be
a
magnet
for
a
large
area.
It's
what's,
you
know
kind
of
an
island
of
itself.
The
idea
that
there's
not
going
to
be
a
wait
in
the
waiting
room
and-
and
it's
not
going
to
be
very
busy-
is
I.
Think
a
naive
one
to
be.
To
be
honest,
the.
S
S
G
Are
coming
from
a
place,
that's
defensive
and
it's
justified.
The
neighborhood
is
awful
to
park
in,
but
the
same
as
that
to
the
same
point,
you're,
making
somebody
who's
coming
from
urgent
before
urgent
care.
Yes,
they're,
not
gonna
have
time
to
be
looking
on
the
website.
They're,
also
not
going
to
drive
around
your
neighborhood
looking
for
a
metered
parking
when
there's
a
free
retail
space
available,
so
I
feel
like
if
there's
marketing,
if
there's
signage,
yeah.
G
S
Is
there
any
way
to
you
know
and
I
heard
you
guys
approve
with
amendments
and
and
all
the
sort
of
thing
is
there
any
way
to
after
a
certain
amount
of
time,
do
some
sort
of
study
to
see
what
the
impact
on
the
street
parking
has
been
after
they've?
You
know
opened
or
something
like
that,
because
if
we're
just
talking
about
rubber,
stamping
something
and
then
you
know
they
put
up
some
signage
and
and
nothing
really
improves
and
actually
it
you
know
downgrades
or
degrades
the
situation
in
my
neighborhood,
that's
even
more
horrible.
S
A
We're
just
talking
no
it's
okay,
because
it
seems
like
we
I
feel
like
we've
had
that
request
before
on
some
things
where
parking
is,
has
the
potential
to
be
problematic?
Is
that
zoning
generally
sort
of
monitors
it
and
they
they
monitor
at
base
on
complaints
that
come
through
and
that
sort
of
a
thing?
C
D
You
know
I
would
suggest
you
also
that
the
the
path
that
most
people
take
if
there
is
something
that
happens
in
their
name
in
their
neighborhood,
that
degrades
livability
even
further.
Is
they
address
it
with
their
aldermen
and
because
the
alderman
will
go
to
staff
and
to
the
parking
department
and
to
this
developer
and
say
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
better
plan
and.
S
A
A
But
we
all
empathize
and
we've
all
gone
through
it.
It's
just
part
of
you
know,
but
luckily
it's
built
now
and
sure
they
shouldn't
be
there,
but
anyway
we
please
know
we.
We
obviously
listen.
We
care,
we
are
concerned,
and
we
try
to
address
these
things
as
best
we
can.
However,
some
of
those
parking
issues
are
best
handled
through
your
aldermen
and
expressing
to
them
about
perhaps
a
permit
parking
for
your
neighborhood.
That
was
your
best
course
of
action
to
actually
get
real
change.
Okay,
thank
you.
N
My
name
is
yogge
Park
I
own
a
business
and
the
main
merchan
Dempster
mile
association
I'm
on
the
board
as
well.
What
address
I'm,
Sophie's,
1231,
Chicago,
Avenue
and
I'm,
also
a
resident
of
Evanston
okay,
so
I
wasn't
gonna
speak
but
I,
understand
and
I
sympathize
with
you,
but
I
have
to
tell
you.
I
have
parked
multiple
times
in
that
building.
There's
always
parking
I,
don't
know
why
people
don't
understand,
there's
parking
there,
but
there
is-
and
it's
always
open
now
as
far
as
dollop
you
can't
park
in
that
space.
N
So
that's
why
people
don't
park,
it's
not
that
there's
availability
and
as
far
as
east
of
Chicago
Avenue
on
him,
men
there's
never
parking.
So
if
you
go
to
like
brother
Kate
like
I,
don't
go
because
there's
no
parking
so
I
do
sympathize
with
you
but
part
of
real
estate.
Is
you
know,
buildings
like
the
Maine
and
Emily
come
in?
It's
gonna
bring
up
your
prices,
so
it's
part
of
the
equation.
So
you
know
as
a
merchant
and
being
part
of
the
port,
we
don't
want
vacancies
as
well.
N
You
know,
and
whatever
goes
in
it's
gonna,
take
a
parking
space.
I
know
there
was
a
talk
of
a
grocery
going
in.
That
would
have
just
taken
away
all
your
parking
space.
So
it's
perspective
I,
guess,
but
just
to
defend
them.
There's
always
parking
in
that
lot.
So
I,
don't
I
mean
people
don't
know
about
it.
That's
the
problem,
but
I
always
Park
at
the
bank.
Personally,
but.
I
You
I
have
a
question:
if
I
may,
before
you
leave
last
month
we
had
I
guess
it
was
considered
a
medical
office
used
on
Main
Street
for
chiropractic
use,
and
we
had
several
merchants
on
Main
Street
coming
and
talking
both
in
favor
and
against
I.
Don't
know
whether
you
know
if
you're
speaking
for
Main
Dempster
Street
mile,
if
there's
been
any
I,
don't
know
if
there's
been
any
I'm
frankly
surprised
me
not
have
me
move
for
them.
T
Might
hi
yes,
I'm
Georgia
Tech
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
Maine
Dempster
MA,
and
there
are
a
range
of
opinions
on
this
particular
on
this
particular
use.
There
are
some
who
are
very
supportive.
There
are
some
who
are
very
concerned
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
parking,
there's
plenty
who
would
rather
have
it
empty
or
would
rather
have
it
full
than
empty,
no
matter
what
is
in
it,
but
there
are
a
range
of
opinions.
So
we
are.
We
have
taken
a
position
where
we
will
neither
support
nor
oppose
it.
A
P
P
Members
of
the
you
know
the
Merchants
Association
and
looking
at
that
chiropractic
office,
and
he
was
very
comfortable
feeling
that
that,
with
with
the
project,
he
didn't
really
care
he's
not
here
to
support
it
or
go
and
against
her
in
favor
kind
of
viewing
that
the
other
side
of
Main
Street
is
sort
of
a
different
environment
and
has
kind
of
a
different
feel
and
the
hard
corner
is
it's
a
more.
You
know
busy
corner
in
terms
of
the
particular
traffic,
and
he
just
felt
that
it
was
a
appropriate
use
and
was
not
concerned
about
it.
P
P
I
A
question
given
that
your
existing
tenants
include
the
Bay
athletic
Cohen.
Now
this
proposed
use,
if
I
understood
what
you
said
earlier,
that
for
the
remaining
bacon
space
you
are
speaking
with
their
retail
use
of
it
sounds
like
a
food
and
beverage
type
use.
Would
you
be
comfortable
if
it
support
of
this?
This
special
use
at
the
corner
includes
I,
don't
know
how
how
far
along
are
conversations
on
that
remaining
bacon
space.
I
guess,
is
what
I'm
asking
you.
P
Know
we've
we've
had
exchanges
of
you
know,
term
sheets,
but
I
don't
have
a
you
know:
I'm,
not
a
signed
term
sheet
and
I'm
not
in
lease,
so
people
have
to
get
finalized
their
capitalization
of
their
share
of
the
costs.
So
I
can't
promise
that
those
are
you
know,
viable
operations
and,
with
all
due
respect,
I
really
prefer
to
not
have
a
restriction
placed
on
for
the
remaining
space.
I'd
like
to
have
this.
You
know
pass
on
its
own
merits,
which
I
think
are
very
strong
and
so
I'd
prefer
to
go
in
that
direction.
G
P
D
P
Not
a
perfect
regulation
system,
we,
you
know,
we
don't
have
a
ticketing
system,
you
don't
have
it.
You
have
to
get
a
go
through
a
gate
to
go
in
the
garage
right
we
do
have.
You
know
our
building
staff.
Is
there
during
the
day
building
engineer,
they
observe
people
going
from
the
parking
lot
directly
to
another
merchants,
business
and
not
into
ours.
We
might
talk
to
that
person
and
so
they're
told
their
vehicle
if
someone's
there
overnight
or
something
like
that,
that
vehicle
would
be
would
be
towed.
P
P
G
You
I
have
a
question
for
North
Shore,
so
sometimes
I
don't
know
necessarily
with
the
media
carry
than
with
you
guys,
but
sometimes
when
you
go
for
services
like
this
there's
some
sort
of
post
visit
survey,
how
did
we
do
kind
of
thing?
Do
you
guys
do
anything
like
that?
We
certainly
do.
Would
it
be
possible
to
add
to
those
surveys,
questions
about
where
people
parked
I.
R
G
Might
be
tonight,
it
might
be
nice
to
gauge
that
for
you
as
well,
because
if
eight
designated
spaces
aren't
serving
your
patrons
and
you're
losing
out
on
like
when
I
say
it.
When
I
say
the
economics
are
gonna,
dictate
it
it's
a
limited
space
and
if
people
can't
park
and
have
to
wait
forever
to
get
in
they're,
just
not
gonna
go
to
that
location.
They're
gonna
go
to
maple
or
wherever
else
is
a
larger
facility,
even
though
it
may
be
closed.
They're
gonna
realize
well.
G
G
Might
even
look
into
an
open-ended
question
that
just
asks
for
all
your
facilities?
Did
you
find
parking
adequate?
Did
you
find
parking
difficult
without
asking
where
you
parks,
then
that
way,
I
think
you
could
Intuit
that
if
somebody
found
parking
difficult
at
this
location,
they
probably
didn't
use
the
free
parking
inside
right,
I.
A
P
There
is
a
you
know,
obviously
had
to
buy
by
the
science
rules
city
too,
so
we
do
have
a
directional
sign
for
parking.
That's
on
two-blade
on
main
that
points
toward
the
entrance
down
the
alley
and
then
there's
sign
it.
There's
there's
you
know
retail
garage
entrance
signage
at
both
the
alley
side
and
then
on
the
Chicago
Avenue
side.
So
it
also
directs
you
for
part
because
there's
little
logos
of
the
businesses
on
top
of
the
Chicago
Avenue
side,
that
direct
people
to
go
around
for
parking.
G
A
That's
your
advertising
materials
enough
I
think
you
got
to
put
it
on
the
building
and
I'm
fairly
certain
that
the
signed
commission
is
that
what
it's
called.
If
we
talk
about
solving
a
parking
problem,
I
think
that
they
hopefully
understand
that
the
gravity
of
this
situation
and
that
some
leniency
here
might
be
in
order
well.
I
To
your
point,
Mary
about
if
I'm
an
urgent
care
patient
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
would
recognize
is
something
that
says
retail
parking.
I.
Don't
know
that
that
I
would
know
that
that
is
where
I'm
allowed
to
park
as
a
patient
of
the
urgent
care
clinic,
because
I
wouldn't
recognize
myself
to
retail
patron
I'm.
Looking.
I
P
A
Was
there
anything
else
that
neighbors
brought
up
that
you'd
like
to
address
I,
think
the
primary
issue
was
barking,
but
aside
from
that,
okay
is
there
anything
so
this
is
your
opportunity
feel
free
to
wrap
up
if
you'd
like
do
a
summary
revisit
anything
you'd
like
or
you
can
say,
you've
said
enough
and
we
can
close
the
record.
Your
choice.
R
G
Yeah
so
I
mean
I'll
just
kind
of
get
out
my
thinking.
Obviously,
the
parking
is
a
huge
issue
for
the
neighborhood
and
and
also
for
this
particular
special
use,
which
requires
parking.
That
said,
it
is
a
small,
urgent
care
facility,
I
think
the
one
on
Maple
has
double
or
more
the
number
of
exam
rooms
yeah.
So
this
is
a
small
facility.
Three
employees
is
very
few
employees
and
they
are
designating
three
spots
for
the
employees
on
an
anticipated
visit
basis
of
22
per
day.
G
It
just
seems
to
me
that
eight
designated
patient
parking
spaces
is
plenty
I
do
think
it
would
be
nice
if
North
Shore
can
try
to
monitor
that
in
some
way
and
obviously,
if
the
number
of
patients
seen
is
significantly
more
than
22
per
day,
eight
spaces
may
not
be
enough,
and
you
may
need
to
work
with
the
building
or
elsewhere
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
accommodate
your
patients
that
doesn't
involve
them
driving
around
the
block
interminably.
Looking
for
parking,
I
think
as
I
said,
the
economics
of
that
will
work
itself
out.
G
Patients
are
going
to
want
to
do
that,
and
so
people
will
adjust
either
you'll,
see
fewer
patients
or
you'll,
find
more
accommodation,
so
I
think
the
parking
can
be
adequate.
I
do
think
it's
very
necessary
as
a
condition
for
a
recommendation
of
approval
that
we
require
the
building
to
apply
for
parking
signage.
That
clearly
designates
that
patient
parking
for
North
Shore
North
Shore's
clinic
is
you
know
in
is
in
that
quote-unquote
retail,
parking,
space
and
I
think
that
will
also
help
alleviate
the
problem,
but
I
think
there's
a
great.
G
I
I
The
Maple
Avenue
parking
garage,
okay,
I
appreciate,
as
was
was
presented
by
mr.
Swanson
and
what
was
in
the
materials,
the
level
of
effort
that
has
gone
into
leasing
the
space.
Clearly
there
was
a
plan
a
when
the
building
originally
opened
that
fell
through,
and
you
know
the
retail
environment
is
such
that
you
know.
Other
uses
are
being
considered
for
gluten
ground-floor
spaces,
and
you
know
this
space
has
been
vacant
for
I,
think
two
years
or
since
the
building
open,
so
just
from
the
type
of
use.
I
I
think
it
is
something
that
you
know
can
support
the
overall
area
and
does
fill
a
need.
I
hope
that
the
remaining
vacant
space
you
know,
I
hope
that
a
retail
use
of
some
sort
can
be
found
for
that
space.
I
think
that
would
further
support
the
corridor
and
you
know
broaden
the
mix
of
uses
for
that
ground
floor.
You
know
ground
for
ground
floor
space
at
that
development,
but
I
support
the
project.
K
K
So
I
think
if
you
promote
with
the
neighborhood
that
you're
going
into
the
free
parking
for
the
facility,
I
think
that
would
help
there's
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
going.
There
will
be
either
as
an
emergency.
Obviously
it's
an
urgent
care.
It's
not
a
walk-in
clinic.
It's
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
that.
K
K
G
K
G
G
E
I
think
that
it's,
in
my
opinion,
after
listening
to
all
the
concerns,
mainly
parking
I,
think
if,
let's
say
a
different
line
of
thoughts,
it's
a
good
balance,
because
if
we
have
something
else
there
maybe
we'll
have
a
bigger
trouble
with
parking,
so
health
care
facility
that
has
designated
parking
I
believe
it
will
be
used
if
it
has
a
better
signage
system.
Once
again,
that's
absolutely
mandatory.
You
have
to
have
that
the
signage
system
that
is
clear
that
somebody
has
to
go
there
and
use
it.
So
it
is
it's
a
good.
E
It's
a
good
balance
and
you
express
your
concerns
of
not
finding
a
retailer
that
will
take
this
place.
I
would
agree,
although
I
was
thinking
that
I
go
to.
Retail
is
better
out
there
for
lovely,
livelier
and
lovely
Street,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
with
all
the
concerns
and
all
the
things
that
were
set
here,
I
think
it's
a
good
balance
and
I'll
support.
This
project.
I
have.
A
Do
an
answer
so
I
was
really
pleased
to
see
the
drawings
that
show
actual
natural
light.
I.
Think
that's
a
key
component
and
to
not
have
it
go
all
the
way
up.
I
do
that
70/30
right
is
where
you
can
still
get
some
natural
light
in
yeah,
so
it
screens
it
I.
Think
that's
a
really
good
opportunity.
I
am
completely
against
anything.
That's
branded
or
has
advertising
on
it.
I
think
that's
awful
I
think
some
art,
some
local
art
would
be
ideal.
A
A
You've
got
to
two
thumbs
down
on
cheap,
vertical
blinds.
So
again,
my
thoughts
on
that
or
I'm
really
glad
that
you
guys
addressed
that
I
think
that's
a
really
big
component
and
again
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
have
a
parking
problem,
but
I
think
signage
can
mitigate
all
of
your
parking
problems
and
really
good
signage
and
you've
got
competent
professionals
here
who
can
come
up
with
some
really
good
ideas,
so
I
think
that
you
can
solve
the
problem.
That
way
with
that,
we
are
gonna,
go
through
all
kinds
of
stuff.
A
There
are
seven
standards
for
a
major
variation
which
is
related
to
the
parking
so
number
one.
The
requestor
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
adjoining
properties.
So
this
has
really
two
two
sides
to
it.
One,
of
course,
is
that
a
property
that
is
activated
and
least
certainly
adds
more
value
to
the
neighborhood.
There
has
been
some
discussion
about
the
adverse
impact
of
parking
on
the
neighborhood
and
I
guess.
A
We
feel
that,
given
the
size
of
the
facility
and
the
dedicated
spaces
for
for
the
public
and
for
patients
has
mitigated
that
substantial
adverse
impact,
so
we
find
that
those
standards
has
been
met
have
been
met.
Number
two:
the
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
intent
is
to
allow
people
to
develop
spaces
and
to
be
able
to
bring
in
businesses
to
activate
spaces,
and
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three,
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
A
There
are
very
specific
limitations
and
restrictions,
given
the
lot
and
the
development
of
a
lot.
So
all
of
that
is
peculiar
to
this
property.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
four,
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience.
If
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
were
to
be
too
carried
out,
I
think
what
we're
talking
about.
A
Here's
particularly
is
the
fact
that
it
hasn't
been
leased
for
two
years
and
that's
a
long
time
and
I
know
that
that
is
an
important
intersection
and
corner
in
the
city
of
Evanston
and
to
have
that
go
for
so
long
without
that
being
filled
has
been
a
foreign
in
a
lot
of
people's
sides,
so
I
think
that
particular
alone
is,
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
it
makes
it
imperative
that
that
we
go
forward
with
this
sort
of
variation.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
five.
A
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property
or
that
there
is
a
public
benefit.
Now
this
is
a
for-profit
company
and
their
goal
is
to
make
money,
so
I
really
perceive
there
to
be
a
large
public
benefit
to
providing
an
immediate
care
center
in
southeast
Evanston.
A
As
it
was
pointed
out
there
there,
there
aren't
many
people
who
know
about
the
one
on
Church
and
maple,
but
something
in
that
immediate
area
where
there
is
a
lot
of
condominium
and
apartment
buildings
where
people
can
walk
to
it,
then
I
think
that
there's
a
real
need
and
a
service
there,
so
I
do
believe
that
that
public
benefit
standard
has
been
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship,
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
A
This
was
all
developed
long
before
the
the
current
tenant
was
contemplating
putting
a
space
there,
so
that
standard
has
been
met
and
number
seven.
The
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
There
really
are
no
feasible
options
here,
there's
either
the
eight
spaces
on
site
or
the
eight
spaces
on
site
and
the
three
off-site
for
the
employees.
So
this
is
the
least
variation.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
A
Yep
just
doing
this,
for
you
know,
people
who
are
watching
I'm,
counting
on
your
wife
to
get
my
ratings
up
number
two,
it's
keeping
with
purposes
and
policies
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
general
plan
and
the
zoning
ordinance
as
amended
from
time
to
time
again,
the
two
goals
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
are
to
promote
the
growth
and
redevelopment
to
strengthen
our
economic
base.
This
development
does
both
of
those
things,
and
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Number
three:
it
will
not
cause
a
negative
cumulative
effect
when
its
effect
is
considered,
in
conjunction
with
the
cumulative
effect
of
various
special
uses
of
all
types
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
effect
of
the
proposed
type
especially
used
upon
the
city
as
a
whole.
I,
don't
believe
that
there
are
many
many
special
uses,
necessarily
in
that.
A
But
it's
not
like
there's
I,
don't
know,
it
doesn't
seem
like
that.
There
are
that
many
special
uses,
but
there
certainly
aren't
many
medical
special
uses
in
that
area,
and
so
I
do
believe.
I
do
not
think
that
there
will
be
a
negative
cumulative
effect
again
given
the
size
of
the
operation
and
the
parking
that
is
coming
with
it.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Number
four:
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
diminish
the
value
of
the
property
in
the
neighborhood
again
a
leased
property
is
a
valuable
property
and
so
I
think
that
will
continue
to
raise
property
values
and,
in
fact,
make
it
a
more
desirable
location
for
some
people
to
live,
given
their
proximity
to
immediate
care.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
five:
it
can
be
adequately
served
by
public
facilities
and
services.
There
are
certainly
bus
lines,
train
lines
and
there
is
parking
provided
so
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
A
Number
six.
It
does
not
cause
undue
traffic
congestion.
I
am
concerned
about
the
drop-offs,
and
so
I
do
think
that
conditioning
it
with
staff
to
review
some
potential
for
signage
about
not
drop,
no
drop
offs
I.
Think
if
we
can
address
it
in
that
manner,
I
think
we
can
probably
solve
or
mitigate
some
of
that
traffic
congestion.
That
might
happen
by
thoughtless
patience.
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
number
seven.
It
preserves
significant
historical
and
architectural
resources
that
does
not
apply
number
eight.
A
It
preserves
significant
natural
and
environmental
features
that
does
not
apply
and
number
nine.
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
regulations
of
the
district
in
which
it
is
located
and
other
applicable
ordinances
which
it
will
once
it
gets
the
permits
and
licenses.
It
is
necessary,
so
I
think
the
things
we're
talking
about
needing
to
condition
are
hours
of
operations,
so
local
retail
is
6
a.m.
to
11
p.m.
I.
Think
they've
asked
from
8:00
a.m.
to
9:00
p.m.
I.
Don't
see
them
extending
how
ours
does
nobody
wants
to
work
that
long?
A
A
8
a.m.
to
9:00
p.m.
I
think
we
do
want
to
condition
something
where
staff
reviews
a
no
drop-off
signage
and
the
efficacy
of
that
and
how
that
might
be
implemented.
I
think
we
do
want
to
condition
this
on
significantly
better
signage
for
free
parking
and
to
make
that
parking
clear,
that
it
is
for
North
Shore
and
not
just
retail
from.
A
I
With
clearer
signage
for
the
patient
parking
I'm
unclear
on
your
first
point,
yeah,
which
and
I
know
that
dapper
addressed
this
and
so
maybe
I
miss
I'm,
not
understanding
it
yet
yeah.
I
Is
there
not
an
opportunity
to
I
thought
I
heard
that
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
create
a
drop-off
zone
by
Jericho
Avenue,
some
Main
Street
I
can
totally
picture
it.
It's
entirely
metered
parking
right,
but
I
thought
I
heard
that
there
was
a
place
potentially
to
create
a
drop-off
area,
a
pullover
area,
whatever
we
want
to
call
it
on
Chicago
Avenue.
Would
that
not
be
prudent
to
actually
to
consider
something
like
that?
Given
human
nature
and
the
in
this
type
of
use?
B
G
G
seven
days
a
week,
which
is
greater
than
what
you
applied
for
on
the
weekends
that
the
that
the
applicant
developed
the
property
with
respect
to
parking
as
they've
committed,
which
is
to
have
three
dedicated
offsite
parking
spaces
for
employees
and
that
employees
not
be
permitted
to
park
elsewhere.
Other
than
those
three
spots
and
eight
dedicated
spots
for
patients
in
the
retail
parking
space
in
the
building.
G
Additional
and
additional
condition
would
be
that
the
murals
from
the
window,
graphics,
that
are
installed
facing
the
street
not
be
commercial
in
nature
and
another
condition
would
be
that
the
building
and/or
northshore,
provide
or
together
provide
signage
from
the
exterior
that
directs
patients
1,
that
there
are
no
drop-offs
permitted
and
2
that
the
retail
parking
is
available
and
directing
them
to
that
parking
and
I.
Guess.
The
last
condition
that
the
business
and
property
be
developed
in
accordance
with
the
documents
and
testimony
submitted.
G
G
T
P
A
A
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
opposed
in
with
that
you
go
to
City
Council,
with
a
recommendation
for
approval
now.
I
know
everybody
on
this
board
wants
to
leave,
but
I
would
like
to
address.
I
would
like
to
ask
for
input
on
one
thing:
there's
been
discussions
in
the
city
at
combining
zoning
with
plan
commission
thoughts
from
anybody
here
know:
I'm
the
pros
or
cons.
I
got
one
big.
No
anybody
else,
I'm
all.
G
It's
not
only
isn't
it
board
efficient
but,
in
my
opinion,
having
combined
meetings
from
entities
that
have
different
missions
and
standards
also
can
curb
freethought
or
increase.
What's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
forced
common
thinking,
groupthink
group
thing.
Thank
you
well
now,
groupthink
can
be
good,
I.
Think
more,
like
forced
common
thinking,
I,
don't
think
it's
good
for
the
health
of
the
two
boards
to
meet
jointly.
K
K
D
What
I
would
ask
is
whether
we
could
get
maybe
a
memo
from
the
city
staff
that
would
well
well
I.
Think
that
what
noodling
I
would
like
to
see
is
what
the
city
is
proposing
in
terms
of
combining
the
two
boards,
where
the
commonality
is,
if
we're
going
to
be
combining
them
so
that
we
can
just
have
longer
meetings,
you
know
and
and
then
less
frequent
meetings.
I.
Don't
think
that
that
makes
sense.
D
G
B
Hand
I
don't
know
I've
stumbled
across
I.
Think
three
as
I
have
not
been
looking
for
them.
I've
been
down
on
their
websites
for
other
various
things,
so
they
are
out
there.
It
is
a
newer
trend,
I
think
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
how
much
staff
time
goes
into
committees
and
preparing
packets
and
cases,
and
that
in
this
day
and
age,
municipalities
don't
always
have
that
staff,
but
two
to
marry
abouts
original
point.
We
are
in
stage
one
of
thinking
about
maybe
doing
this.
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B
B
G
A
Yeah
yeah
so
start
over
I'm,
just
asking
the
question,
because
I
think
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
fundamental
difference
in
the
type
of
person
who
is
interested
in
this
aspect
of
planning
and
who
is
interested
in
the
the
planning.
The
Planning
Commission
part
of
of
planning
is.
D
That
true,
or
is
that
false,
well
I,
think
to
be
fair
when
we
elected
to
serve
or
were
encouraged
to
serve,
there
were
positions
that
were
open
at
the
time
so
I.
You
know
it's
not
as
though
I
flipped
through
and
said
which
Commission
do
I
want
to
be
on.
You
know
maybe
economic
development,
you
know,
but
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
you
so.
E
E
I
find
much
more
similarities
between
dapper
and
the
Zoning
Board,
rather
than
between
the
Zoning
Board
and
the
plant
running
Development
Committee.
So
that's,
maybe
it's
a
kind
of
a
to
narrow
opinion,
but
that's
what
I
see
most
of
the
time
and
you
see
we
are
usually
using
the
recommendations,
recommendations
of
the
dapper
very
often
because
they
are
like
brothers,
in
what
we
are
doing
well
with
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee.
We
have
much
more
real
common
topics,
so
opinion.
I
But
an
answer
to
your
question
Mary
about
philosophically
I,
would
not
be
opposed
to
overseeing
the
tasks
of
the
Planning
Commission,
as
you
described.
This
was
the
opening
that
suited
my
skill
sets
and
background
and
I
think
my
skill
sets
and
background
would
similarly
be
suited
to
plan
commission.
So
from
that
viewpoint,
I
think
it
makes
sense,
but
from
the
joint
boards
hearings
that
we've
had
those
have
been
painful.
Given
the
current
structure.
Yes,.