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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
this
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
of
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
zoning
ordinance
directs
this
body
to
hear
applications
for
major
variations,
special
uses
and
appeals
from
decisions
of
the
Zoning
Administrator,
depending
on
the
type
of
matter.
This
board
will
either
make
a
final
determination
or
send
its
recommendation
to
City
Council.
Most
of
you,
please
call
the
roll
Mary.
C
A
A
deacon
all
right
with
five
members
present
we
do
have
a
quorum
which
is
exciting.
Also
present
tonight
is
the
only
planner
Melissa
Klotz.
This
is
a
formal
meeting
and
there
are
rules
that
govern
our
proceedings.
Most
most
importantly,
only
one
person
speaks
at
a
time,
so
all
testimony
may
be
accurately
recorded.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
board
regarding
any
matter
on
the
agenda
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
A
Our
procedure
is
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
documents
on
file
and
then
receive
testimony
and
other
evidence
from
the
applicant
or
appellant
next.
Persons
who
wish
to
make
a
statement
regarding
the
matter
may
do
so
at
that
time,
any
person
with
a
legal
interest
and
property
located
within
500
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
may
present
evidence
reasonably
question
witnesses
or
seek
a
continuance
of
the
hearing.
When
all
supporting
and
opposing
testimony
and
statements
have
been
heard,
the
applicant
or
appellant
will
be
given
the
opportunity
for
rebuttal
or
a
closing
statement.
A
Then
the
board
will
close
the
record
and
begin
deliberations.
All
testimony
will
be
under
oath,
although
we
do
not
apply
the
strict
rules
of
evidence.
Please
limit
your
testimony
or
statements
to
your
personal
knowledge
when
you
address
the
board,
please
state
your
name
and
address
and
sign
in
on
the
provided
sheet.
Our
meetings
are
audio
and
video
recorded.
Please
make
sure
that
you
are
at
a
microphone
when
asking
questions
or
making
statements
so
that
you
can
be
properly
recorded.
All
proceedings
are
subject
to
broadcast
at
a
later
date.
A
Any
matter
not
concluded
at
tonight's
hearing
will
be
continued
to
our
next
regularly
meeting.
There
is
one
item
on
the
agenda
for
this
evening
and
you
are
3015
pain.
You
are
anybody
anybody
else
they
are
here,
so
we
are
good
to
go
with
that.
Our
first
item
on
our
agenda,
however,
is
the
approval
of
meeting
minutes
from
April
4th.
Did
everybody
get
a
chance
to
read
those
meeting
minutes?
Yes,
any
changes,
I
move.
A
Moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor
aye
and
the
meeting
minutes
have
passed
all
right.
We
are
now
going
on
to
new
business
and
we
will
first
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
case
with
3015
Payne
Street.
Will
you
please
raise
your
right
hand
and
do
you
swear
affirm
to
tell
the
truth
throughout
the
course
of
these
proceedings?
A
B
Daniel
Turin
Haim
architect
applies
for
major
zoning
relief
to
construct
a
one-story
addition
to
connect
a
detached
garage
to
a
single-family
residence
to
create
an
attached
garage
in
the
r1
single-family
residential
district.
The
applicant
proposes
a
2.7
foot,
East
interior
side
yard
setback
for
the
existing
garage
where
5
feet
is
required.
Zoning
code
section
6,
8
to
8
a
3,
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
is
the
determining
body
for
this
case.
B
Documents
included
as
part
of
the
record
include
variation
application
submitted,
April
4th
2017
standards,
form
zoning
analysis,
plaintiff
survey,
site
plans
elevations
to
letters
of
support,
one
letter
of
opposition,
image
of
property,
aerial
view
of
property,
zoning
map
of
property
and
dapper
draft
meeting
minutes
of
April
26
2017,
as
well
as
two
additional
letters
of
support
that
we're
handing
it
handed
out
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Do.
A
E
I'm.
Just
a
quick
overview
of
the
project.
The
owner
is
proposing
the
work
to
their
house
to
provide
more
space
for
their
growing
family.
They
have,
they
regularly
have
extended
family
over
to
their
house
for
gatherings.
They
have
cousins,
mom
and
dad
live
in
the
area,
and
so
they
commonly
have
people
over
and
that's
why
they're
proposing
to
expand
their
home?
E
The
scope
of
the
work
is
to
convert
an
existing
attached,
one-car
garage,
that's
on
the
west
side
of
their
their
house,
currently
that's
being
going
to
be
used
now
for
a
larger
dining
room
for
that
extended
family
and
for
gatherings.
Also,
the
the
proposed
to
work
is
to
have
an
addition
off
the
back
of
the
house
for
a
larger
kitchen,
and
also
the
part
of
that
addition
is
to
attach
a
mudroom
to
attach
the
main
house
to
the
existing
detached
garage.
The
existing
detached
garage
is
about
fourteen
feet
away
from
the
existing
house
itself.
E
There
is
currently
no
work
plan
to
that
existing
garage
other
than
the
attachment
of
the
the
mudroom
addition,
and
the
current
work
that's
proposed
is
the
addition.
Work
is
of
one-story
addition,
not
a
two-story
addition
just
one-story
addition.
The
existing
two-car
garage
is
currently
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
property
adjacent
to
the
public
alley,
unlike
most
detached
garages
which
are
set
in
the
back
of
the
property
at
the
public
alley.
This
garage
is
located
close
to
the
existing
house
towards
the
middle
of
the
property,
but
also
on
a
public
alley.
E
We
feel
this
is
a
unique
situation
to
most
of
residences
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
The
the
garage
is
on
a
slight
angle
to
the
alley:
putting
the
northeast
corner
at
3.8
five
feet
from
the
property
line
and
the
southeast
corner
to
point
7
feet
from
the
property
line.
The
proposal
is
to
connect
the
detached
garage
to
the
house
and
making
it
an
attached
garage.
E
E
We
believe
the
proposal
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance
as
I
understand
it.
One
of
the
top
priorities
for
the
zoning
setback.
The
rules
are
to
keep
buildings
a
safe
distance
away
from
one
another
in
case
of
fire
of
setbacks
are
first
and
foremost
a
life
safety
measure.
In
addition
to
a
property
standard,
the
existing
garage
is
located
adjacent
to
a
20
foot
public
le
putting
it
a
safe
distance
from
adjacent
structures,
because
it's
because
the
side
yard
setback
rules
differ
between
detached
and
attached
garages,
three
foot
versus
five
foot.
E
We
feel
there
is
a
practical
difficulty
to
this
particular
property
tearing
down
and
rebuilding
a
garage
that
is
2.3
feet.
West
of
the
current
location
is
fairly
impractical.
Changing
the
design
is
also
impractical,
because
any
design
that
proposes
to
attach
the
garage
will
lead
to
the
same
hardship.
The
proposal
is
not
based
exclusively
upon
a
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property.
The
goal
is
to
simply
expand
the
space
for
the
needs
of
the
growing
family.
The
proposed
variation
is
limited
to
the
minimum
change
necessary
to
alleviate
the
particular
hardship.
E
E
A
F
C
F
Uses
storage
space
right
now,
it's
it's
so
small
that
you
could
fit
for
some
of
you
that
are
younger
than
me
like
a
VW
Bug
or
something
in
there
like
it's,
not
not
very
wide,
and
you
know
the
one
thing
I'd
like
to
add
to
this
comment:
is
you
know:
I
grew
up
in
Evanston
I'm
was
born
here.
I
was
raised
here
long
time
resident.
My
cousin
was
down
the
street.
My
mom
was
Mary.
My
dad
was
in
Evanston.
F
We
want
to
take
great
care
with
kind
of
preserving.
What
we
feel
is
like
this
kind
of
idea
of
how
Evanston
presents
itself
right,
where
this
idea
that
there's
a
unique
nature
to
the
homes
here,
and
so
we've
taken
care
with
this
kind
of
addition
that
we
want
to
preserve
that
kind
of
look
for
us
and
for
the
people
around
us
and.
F
Did
we
built
that
concept?
It
was
four
or
five
years
ago.
We
built
that
as
time
that
we
hit
two
children
since
then,
we've
added
two
more
in
and
it's
congratulations.
Yes,
I
did
yeah,
okay,
so
we
you
know
this
is
simply
kind
of
an
idea
that
we're
going
to
connect
it
in
add
a
little
bit
more
space
and
disability
for
mudroom
to
kind
of
accommodate
our
family.
F
D
A
Any
other
questions
from
anybody
else
I
got
a
couple,
so
the
first
question
I
have
is
when
we
consider
the
minimum
change
necessary.
We
sometimes
like
to
see
what
other
options
were
looked
at
for
this
design,
because
when
I
look
at
this
quickly,
I
see
that
there
seems
to
be
an
option
that
would
fit
in
the
conforming
location
right
within
the
5-foot
side,
yard
setback
and
be
ten
feet
from
the
garage.
E
E
A
F
Respectfully,
disagree
right,
the
intent
from
as
the
client
speaking
we
always
wanted
to
attach
the
garage
to
the
house
for
this
idea
that,
when
you're
bringing
four
kids
in
to
the
house,
you
know
we're
pulling
into
the
garage
in
this
idea
that
we
want
to
have
a
seamless
entryway
from
the
garage
no
into
the
house.
So.
A
Let
me
ask
you
a
question,
then,
when
you,
when
you
build
the
garage
five
years
ago,
and
you
had
an
architect,
do
that
yes,
correct
not
like
Dan
Lee
or
somebody
like
that
right,
so
full-on
licensed
architect.
Did
you
have
those
conversations
with
them
at
that
time
about
wanting
to
be
able
to
attach
the
garage
she's.
F
House
for
approximately
one
year,
I
think
at
the
time
that
was
built,
some
are
still
kind
of
learning
and
growing
with
the
house
and
what
her
needs
were
so
I
can't
speak
to
as
whether
it
was
conflated
out
with
two
versus
four.
But
at
that
time
we've
been
the
house
for
less
than
a
year
or
a
year,
approximately
okay.
E
E
C
C
E
I
you
know
I
asked
that
question
as
well,
because
I'm,
not
the
architect
that
built
the
garage
I'm
there
are
currently
connive
done
other
houses
and
garages
and
structures
in
the
city
and
city
of
Evanston,
and
they
do
have
rules
where
they
require
us
to
provide
actual
surveys
showing
the
location
of
the
garage
foundations.
But
it's
very
possible
and
we'd
have
to
look
back
at
records
that
at
that
time
they
didn't
require
that.
So,
while
it
was
probably
probably
drawn
that
way,
it
was
built.
You
know
four
inches
in
the
wrong
direction.
Is
you
that's?
A
E
So
the
current
garage
in
its
current
location
is
in
the
middle
of
the
property
off
of
public
alley.
The
hardship
is
that
the
location
of
the
garage
and
relation
to
that's
in
relation
to
the
property
line
it
is,
although
it's
slightly
off
it,
is
conforming
currently
as
a
detached
garage.
It's
unique
in
that
it's
set
in
the
middle
of
the
property.
This
property
has
two
alleys
that
border
it
and
the
hardship
is
that
you
know
it's
a
structure
located
in
a
in
a
unique,
unique
spot.
E
A
E
Think
that's
a
misleading
premise,
because
at
the
time
of
building
the
garage
it's
built,
conforming
presume,
if
you
presume,
which
is
they
could
see
the
future-
that
they
would
have
future
plans
that
they
were.
They
knew
about
that
they
didn't
that
they
didn't
know
of
future
plans
at
that
point.
So
to
presume
that
they
would
have
done
this
a
you
know
they
would
purposefully
have
done
this
as
kind
of
I.
Think
it's
false.
It's
not
possible
to
presume
that
nobody
can
see
into
the
future.
E
E
A
F
E
Actually,
the
the
owners
did
a
really
good
job
of
regrading
the
property
so
that
all
the
water
runs
off
towards
the
south
le
and
somewhat
also
towards
the
East
LA
and
towards
the
the
street.
Payne
Street
and
I
have
those
civil
engineering
drawings
that
were
done
by
the
civil
engineer
that
show
the
swales
and
show
the
direction
in
the
heights
of
heights
of
grade
and
I
reviewed
that
with
Ingrid
civil
engineer
here
and
it
it
all
looks
really
great.
E
G
E
F
If
I
can
add
one
thing,
I
mean
one
thing:
I
love
about
Evanston
right.
We
had
these
huge,
mature
trees,
that
kind
of
line
our
streets.
When
we
moved
in
the
house,
we
lost
one
possibly
two
trees
because
of
previous
owners,
not
dealing
with
the
runoff
and
it
being
kind
of
a
swamp
aquifer.
We
had
cut
down
these
trees
and
it
was
sad
right
and
we
still
have
cutouts
of
them
chairs
me
out
of
them
our
backyard,
because
that's
what
we
want
about
them
and
you
walk
down
central.
You
know
special
treat
pain.
F
A
C
C
I,
really
like
the
fact
that
the
front
yard
is
all
grass
in
every
other
way,
they're,
conforming
and
and
perhaps
even
a
little
under
land
coverage
and
impervious
surface
coverage,
and
so
for
the
sake
of
I,
think
it
would
be
ashamed
to
not
attach
the
garage
as
they're
doing
this
renovation
because
it
would
be
they
could
leave
an
artificial
alleyway
just
to
not
attach
it.
But
that
to
me
doesn't
seem
to
make
sense
if
they're
doing
the
addition
and
and
the
garages
there,
the
neighbors
support
the
project.
A
A
A
Okay
I
happen
not
to
agree
with
anybody
else,
I
believe
very
firmly
in
not
creating
your
own
hardship
and
I
feel
very
strongly
that,
given
that
I
might
have
a
different
feeling
on
that,
if
the
garage
done
five
years
ago
had
been
by
a
garage
builder
as
it
were,
where
I
know
that
those
conversations
about
side,
yard
setbacks
and
those
things
wouldn't
have
happened,
I
feel
pretty
confident
not
saying
for
certain,
but
it
would
feel
pretty
confident
that
an
architect
would
have
had
would
have
broached
that
conversation
with
an
owner
about
a
garage
at
that
time
and
potentially
attaching
it
and
those
sorts
of
things.
A
So
that's
my
primary
difficulty
with
the
project.
The
second
is
that
there
there's
a
way
to
yes,
you
can't
have
the
attached
to
garage,
but
there
is
a
way
to
get
everything
else
you
want,
which
is
the
mudroom
and
the
extra
bathroom
and
the
storage
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
in
a
conforming
location.
It
just
means
not
attaching
to
the
garage,
and
you
know
I,
would
like
a
bigger
house.
That's
not
my
hardship,
though.
That's
not
a
hardship
for
me
to
get
a
bigger
house.
A
So
for
me,
just
wanting
to
attach
it
to
the
garage
is
not
the
hardship
here
so
with
that.
I
will
now
need
comments
when
I
go
through
the
major
sent
for
the
standards
of
air
Asian
comments
that
disagree
with
me
all
right.
So
item
number
one:
the
requested
variation
will
not
have
a
substantial
adverse
impact
on
the
use,
enjoyment
or
property
values
of
a
jamming
of
adjoining
properties.
I
do
agree
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
It
is
in
the
in
the
big
scheme
of
things.
A
It
is
a
very
small
issue,
particularly
given
the
lot
sizes
in
that
neighborhood
having
a
story
and
a
half
garage
is
fairly
large
to
be
that
close
right
to
the
main
alley,
but
I
don't
think
that
that
will
cause
any
any
impact
on
the
user
enjoyment
of
the
adjacent
properties.
So
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
two:
the
requested
variation
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
Obviously,
one
of
the
biggest
intents
is
that
we
are
able
to
modify
our
homes
to
fit
our
families
and
the
way
that
they
grow
and
change
in
the
way
that
needs
change
over
time
right,
we're
not
living
like
we
did
in
the
1900s.
We
live
a
very
different
way
now
and
so
to
be
able
to
make
those
accommodations.
A
So
I
do
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Number
three,
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
I,
don't
believe
that
this
hardship
that
or
this
practical
difficulty
is
peculiar
to
the
property.
There
are
quite
a
few
garages
in
Evanston
that
are
detached
and
that,
for
the
same
reason,
are
not
attached
to
the
house
because
it
causes
all
this
grief
with
zygarde
setbacks
and
other
things.
So
I
don't
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
Excuse.
C
Me
I
would
say
that
that
standard
has
been
met,
because
we
are
talking
about
the
property
as
it
is
today
and
as
it
is
today,
the
garage
is
sitting
three
feet
from
the
alley
and
so
to
attach
that
garage
to
the
home
to
be
in
compliance
would
require
that
the
garage
be
torn
down
and
moved
two
feet
very,
possibly
to
the
detriment
of
the
landscaping
and
the
rest
of
the
property.
So
as
that
property
is
today,
the
hardship
is
peculiar
to
that
property.
F
D
Agree
that
the
hardship
is
peculiar
to
that
property.
If
you
want
the
attached
garage,
however,
I
also
have
to
say
Marybeth
its
standard
one
and
two
have
been
met,
that
we
are
adjusting
homes
for
current
lifestyle
and
for
current
families,
then
standard
three,
not
being
a
hardship
with
that
caused
it
not
to
pass.
A
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
number
four,
the
property
owner
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
as
distinguished
from
a
mere
inconvenience.
If
the
strict
letter
of
the
regulations
were
to
be
carried
out,
I
don't
think
that
standard
has
been
met
because
I
think
that
they
can,
with
the
exception
of
getting
an
attached
garage
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
in
fash
garages
enough
of
a
particular
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
Again,
there
are
thousands
of
detached
garages
in
Evanston.
A
C
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met
because
the
garage
at
the
time
when
they
were
new
owners
and
bought
the
property
they
placed
the
garage
close
to
the
house.
So
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
yard,
in
the
middle
of
the
lot
as
I
understand
it.
So
for
them
to
add
on
to
the
house
in
order
to
accommodate
their
family,
the
garage
being
at
its
current
location.
There
would
be
sure
they
could
do
a
very
small
alleyway
between
the
garage
and
the
house
in
order
to
not
connect
it.
But
you
know
once
again:
I.
C
C
He
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship
because
he
would
like
to
attach
his
garage
to
his
home
and
and
because
of
where
the
garage
is
located
and
because
it
I
just
don't
see
that
it's
it's
hurting,
I
think
so.
I
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met
because
he
would
suffer
a
particular
hardship.
You
would
have
to
completely
redo
his
housing
plans
for
to
create
a
small
alleyway
between
the
home
and
the
garage
in
order
to
not
attach
them.
C
A
You
number
five.
The
purpose
of
the
variation
is
not
based
exclusively
on
the
desire
to
extract
additional
income
from
the
property.
I
believe
that
standard
has
been
met
because
there
they're
doing
this
renovation
so
that
it
works.
The
house
works
better
for
them
their
family
and
their
needs,
so
that
standard
has
certainly
been
met.
Number
six,
the
alleged
difficulty
or
hardship
has
not
been
created
by
any
person
having
an
interest
in
this
property.
C
And
began
I
will
say
that
the
standard
has
been
met
because
the
circumstances
five
years
ago
were
not
the
same
as
the
circumstances
are
today
and
even
though
they
had
put
the
garage
up.
They
had
not
anticipated
by
the
testimony
given
to
us
that
they
would
be
attaching
the
garage
to
the
house
or
that
they
would
even
be
expanding
the
house,
so
they
didn't
create
the
difficulty
purposefully
and
now
they
want
to
do
an
improvement
to
their
house,
and
this
hardship
is
existing.
C
A
You
number
seven:
the
requested
variation
requires
the
least
deviation
from
the
applicable
regulation
among
the
feasible
options
identified
before
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
issues,
its
decision
or
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
regarding
said
variation,
I
believe
that
there
is
a
conforming
location
for
an
addition
that
encompasses
all
the
things
that
are
part
of
this
addition
that
connects
to
the
garage
so
I
don't
believe
that
that
standard
has
been
met.
I.
C
Believe
that
this
is
the
least
deviation
for
what
the
what
the
design
is
that
has
been
offered
in
every
other
facet.
Their
property
is
in
compliance
with
zoning
regulations,
and
so
if
they
were
to
bring
the
additions
within
six
inches
of
the
garage,
they
would
be
it
they
wouldn't
have
had
to
come
before
this
board.
It's
the
only
necessity
to
come
before
this
board
is
that
they
want
to
make
the
logical
next
step
and
attach
that
garage
to
the
addition
which,
in
this
day
and
age,
especially
given
the
weather
we've
had
the
last
few
weeks.