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Hollister City Council Meeting September 20, 2021
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Only
to
say,
mr
mayor,
if
the
city
council
so
moves,
it
will
move
into
closed
session
to
discuss
the
item.
Agendas
for
closed
session
discussions
specifically
conference
with
the
legal
counsel
anticipated
litigation
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54596.9,
five
potential
cases.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
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Now
therefore,
agnostic
velasquez
mayor
of
the
city
of
hollister,
to
hereby
declare
september
2021
as
national
recovery
month
in
the
city
of
hollister,
and
I
want
to
personally
thank
you
for
all
the
great
work
your
group
has
been
doing
in
our
community
very
important
to
all
communities.
So
thank
you
all.
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I
have
peace
now
in
my
life
and
it's
all
because
of
sun
street
and
my
god
he
brought
me
there.
He
helped
me
when
I
couldn't
help
myself
and
I'm
really.
I
had
no
hope-
and
I
had
I
didn't
know
what
my
future
looked
like.
There
were
times
when
I
didn't
even
want
to
live,
and
now
I
want
to
live.
I
have
so
much
hope.
I'm
excited
for
my
future
and
recovery.
I
will
always
keep
recovery
first.
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For
the
last
12
years,
I've
been
struggling
with
addiction
due
to
getting
addicted,
to
pills
due
to
health
problems,
and
it
just
progressed
over
the
years
I
started
going
in
and
out
of
jail
and
institutions,
and
my
life
just
went
downhill
really
really
fast
and
on
paper
I
was
a
lost
cause
and
then
I
came
to
sun
street
and
they
just
totally
changed
my
life,
I'm
a
different
person.
I've
been
there
for
almost
61
days
today
and
I
have
hope,
and
I'm
actually
fixing
relationships
with
my
family
and
the
staff.
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A
Thank
you,
sun
street
again,
you
know
I've
been
involved
with
homeless
issues
here
in
our
community
for
for
a
while
now-
and
I
can
tell
you,
you
cannot
solve
the
problem
without
groups
like
sun
street
and
many
others
that
really
make
that
difference
to
get
everybody
back
to
that
point
where,
as
you
all
spoke
today,
to
give
you
that
new
life
and
I'm
very
proud
of
you
for
being
up
here
and
speaking
and
all
of
you
for
being
here,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Did
you
have
a
comment.
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B
A
We'll
now
move
to
public
input.
This
is
the
time
for
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak
on
any
item
not
on
the
agenda
and
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
council.
Speaker
cards
are
available
in
the
lobby
and
are
to
be
completed
and
given
to
the
city
clerk.
Before
speaking
when
the
city
clerk
calls
your
name,
please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
city
for
the
record
and
speak
to
the
city
council.
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Robin
pollard
hollister,
I
came
tonight
to
thank
you
for
getting
the
bathrooms
open
at
least
functioning
at
park
hill.
I
know
there's
still
a
fence
around
three
quarters
of
it,
but
people
can
get
into
the
bathrooms
and
I
know
the
mothers
up
there
really
appreciating
it
for
their
kids.
So
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that.
Also,
I
saw
you
the
bushes
were
cut
at
maple,
so
you
guys
are
on
it.
So
I
figured
since
you're
being
so
proactive.
J
I
would
come
down
tonight
and
I
saw
about
two
weeks
ago.
The
sidewalk
sweeper
was
out
on
6th
street.
I
guess
you
have
a
little
machine
that
washes
sidewalks
and
I
don't
know
if
it
just
does
the
downtown
area
or
how
far
that
little
machine
is
allowed
to
go,
but
I'm
hoping
that
you'll
do
north
of
4th
street
on
san
benito
street.
J
It
is
part
of
the
historic
district.
In
fact
I
brought
the
old
map.
This
is
the
original
layout
of
hollister
and
you'll.
See
down
here
in
the
corner
is
where
park
hill
is
and
they
purposely
didn't,
sell
those
lots,
meaning
they
even
wanted
it
to
be
a
public
place
and
maybe
perhaps
someday
the
historic
district
can
expand
as
far
as
north
street
and
south
and
east
and
west
street,
and
perhaps
something
fun
and
community
oriented.
We
can
reach
park
hill
as
well.
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L
How
come
when
mr
perez
recommended
making
a
motion
to
amend
the
proposal
for
a
change
in
location?
He
was
shot
down.
How
come
when
roland
made
a
motion
to
amend
the
proposal.
It
was
accepted
not
one
amendment
but
two
amendments
for
your
proposal
of
a
single
unity
poll
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars.
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Can
you
say
double
standard
or
in
actuality,
according
to
city
manager,
by
his
own
testimony?
Apparently
that
was
an
illegal
motion.
That
motion
should
have
never
been
obliged
two
motions
unless
rick
perez's
should
have
been
obliged
too,
but
he
didn't
know
very
much
because
he
was
new
and
you
guys
were
just
taking
advantage
of
him.
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M
This
weekend
we
had
california
coastal
cleanup
and
we
got
to
work
with
some
organizations
in
town,
ecology,
rj
here
to
help
clean
up
around
town
and
in
the
river
we
worked
also
with
integrated
waste
and
hollister
wreck
was
also
there
in
support,
which
is
awesome.
We
need
all
that
support.
We
can
get.
M
We
pulled
a
ton
of
garbage
out
of
the
river
near
the
4th
street
bridge,
something
like
60
plus
tires,
and
I
don't
know
how
much
the
weight
was
in
the
actual
garbage
yet
we'll
find
out
this
week,
but
I
just
called
to
say
like
we
can't
we
can't
let
that
continue,
that
that
illegal
dumping.
I
hope
that
the
city
code
enforcement
could
you
know,
get
after
these
land
owners.
M
If
you
know
if
it's
private
land
instead
of
city
land
and
get
off
the
land
owners
and
make
sure
they
secure
their
property.
You
know
if
you
can't
secure
your
property
like
it's,
you
you
either
get
cited,
or
you
know
something
something
to
help
us
volunteers
who
are
out
there.
You
know
trying
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
get
worse
yeah.
M
You
know
it
would
be,
I
think,
advantageous
for
us
as
well
to
you
know,
work
with
ecology
or
rjr
and
and
get
a
bin
in
that
parking
lot
there
at
the
end
of
the
the
river
park
trail,
you
know
once
or
twice
a
month.
You
know
it's
not
ideal,
but
it
stops
the
illegal
dumping
for
the
time
that
us
volunteers
can
try
and
catch
up
with
with
what
what's
going
on
there.
M
I
think
that
you
know
in
the
long
run
the
cost
is
is
definitely
worth
it
for
the
for
the
trash
to
go
in
the
bin
and
not
in
the
river
and
then.
Lastly,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
all
the
volunteers
who
showed
up
this
past
weekend,
including
those
who
clean
the
streets
and
hollister.
You
know
thank
you
for
helping
us
have
clean
shared
spaces,
I'm
very
proud
of
our
town
that
we
could
come
together.
You
know
in
a
in
a
way
that
is
positive.
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Hi,
thank
you
nova
good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
Real
quick!
Is
there
an
end?
I
want
to
know
if
there's
an
end
date
to
the
scooters.
A
couple
of
weekends
ago
I
saw
kids
were
enjoying
them.
I
thought
it
was
great
that
they
were
enjoying
them.
They
were
on
the
street,
they
didn't
have
helmets,
but
that
wasn't
the
issue.
The
issue
was
that
I
was
driving
slow
because
they
were
ahead
of
me.
They
were
enjoying
themselves.
N
I
was
being
cautious,
but
a
car
behind
me
passed
me
up
and
speed
it
right
between
them,
and
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
a
horrible
experience
for
somebody
that
was,
I
thought
somebody
was
going
to
get
hurt,
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
it
what
you
guys
are
planning
with
regards
to
it
continuing
the
light.
This
is
for
city
manager,
he's
aware
of
since
april
that
the
light
for
the
crosswalk
and
on
west
and
fourth
street
is
out.
N
I
am
currently
in
the
process
of
getting
a
rally
together
for
in
support
of
women's
women's
reproductive
rights
and
just
so
that
you,
if
you
guys,
want
to
join
I'm
hoping
I'll,
have
everything
done
and
taken
care
of
by
wednesday,
so
I
can
get
permitted
for
that.
It'll
be
in
it'll,
be
at
the
vets
memorial,
the
park
area,
the
grass
area.
N
Let's
see,
I
wanted
to
discuss
the
oh
with
regards
to
with
regards
to
it's
just
not
about
women's
reproductive
rights,
it's
already
starting
that
the
state
of
mississippi
is
considering
an
abortion
restrictions,
that's
going
to
include
also
the
lgbtq
marriage
and
bedroom
privacy,
so
they're
we're
wanting
they're
wanting
to
take
us
backwards
instead
of
where
we
are
now.
We
should
be
moving
forward.
So
I
was
hoping
I'm
hoping
that
I'll
get
your
support
to
be
there.
Also
the
there's
a
second
cannabis
dispensary
that
was
approved
a
few
years
ago.
N
I
would
really
like
for
the
city
council
to
bring
that
up
for
discussion
and
possibly
put
it
up
for
bid,
have
people
that
can
bid
again
and
put
go
through
the
process
of
trying
to
get
the
permit
to
open
up.
A
second
dispensary
would
be
really
appreciated
by
the
licensees
as
well.
As
you
know,
there
is
no
you're
not
supposed
to
sell
the
license,
and
the
people
that
have
the
permit
have
been
trying
to
sell
it
for
a
few
years
and
have
still
not
been
able
to
do
it.
N
N
C
C
We
also
just
during
our
department
head
meeting
today,
actually
just
talked
about
the
river
cleanup
and
we're
working
on
a
date
for
to
clean
up
that
area
also
and
then
the
it's
a
kind
of
a
reminder
that
scooters
are
supposed
to
be
ridden
in
the
bike
lanes
and
then
yeah
elliot's
wieners
is
correct.
The
fourth
street
crosswalk.
We
are
waiting
for
parts.
It's
an
older
system,
so
we're
we
might
have
to
just
come
come
back
with
a
solution
of
replacing
that
if
we
have
to.
C
A
O
Essentially,
the
lieutenants
were
doing
the
jobs
of
the
captains
with
the
captains
were
doing
before
each
of
them
managing
a
division
within
the
police
department.
During
the
staffing
study
in
2019,
they
indicated
that
there
was
too
much
separation
there
between
the
chief
and
the
actual
day-to-day
management
of
the
police
department,
and
we
agree
with
that
situation.
They
gave
several
examples
of
other
departments
in
our
area
that
are
some
larger
than
ours,
with
no
no
position,
as
essentially
a
deputy
chief
position.
O
This
resolution
is
requesting
authorization
to
go
back
to
the
way
it
used
to
be
in
2014
and
have
one
captain,
one
chief,
two
captains,
each
managing
a
division
and
that
the
two
lieutenant
positions
to
be
reclassified
as
captains
that
will
remain
one.
We
will
remain
with
one
lieutenant
position.
That's
currently
filled
right
now
with
the
sergeant
because
of
staffing
and
we,
and
we
would
hope
that
that
one
position
that
we
have
right
now
vacant
as
a
captain,
we
can
drop
that
down
to
patrol
level.
O
P
Thank
you
mayor
all
right
chief,
I
100
support
your
request.
Having
said
that,
I'm
wondering
as
it
relates
to
the
officer
position,
I
would
ask
that
you
just
give
some
consideration,
I'm
concerned
about
dui
and
it
seems
like
any
time
I
see
reports
duis
are
consistent
and
I
know
that
you
have
a
traffic
grant
to
do
the
the
fixed
locations
periodically,
but
I
would
like
to
see
an
in
an
enhanced
enforcement
as
it
relates
to
dui
and
I'd.
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K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
city
council,
good
evening,
abraham
prado
development
services,
department,
interim
director
planning
manager.
The
item
before
you
is
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
authorizing
the
execution
of
amendment
number
two
to
the
professional
services
agreement
between
the
city
of
hollister
and
four
leaf.
Four
leaf
is
the
city's
built-in
department
at
the
time
exhibit
b
of
the
professional
services
agreement.
K
In
summary,
four
leaf
would
be
reducing
its
percentages
of
fees
collected
for
each
building.
Permit
seven
point:
five
percent
to
from
sixty
five
percent
to
fifty
seven
and
a
half
percent,
and
the
city's
percentage
will
increase
seven
and
a
half
percent
from
35
percent
to
42.5
staff
recommends.
The
city
council
approved
resolution
number
2021-186
authorizing
the
mayor
to
execute
amendment
number
two
to
the
professional
services
agreement
buy-in
between
the
city
of
hollister
and
four-leaf.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
steph.
P
P
All
right,
I
wanted
to
be
clear
on
that.
I
in
reviewing
their
contract-
and
maybe
this
is
a
better
conversation
for
another
time,
but
I
did
have
a
a
variety
of
questions,
some
more
technical,
some
more
simple,
I
believe,
but
the
first
question
I
have
is:
it
appears
in
the
contract
now
that
they
actually
provide
fire
plan
check
services
referenced
on
page
193
of
the
staff
report.
Is
that
correct.
P
K
Q
P
Q
P
Q
That's
just
their
general
overall
what
they
provide
for
that.
We
we
always
have
that
option,
because
they
are
one
of
our
our
vendors
that
we
do
utilize
and
contract
employees.
But
if
anything
were
ever
to
happen,
we
might
be
able
to
utilize
them
if
we
want
so
we
have
three
different
ones.
So
they
don't
pay,
we
don't
charge
for
anything
they
don't
we
don't
pay
them
for
anything.
P
C
P
P
C
I
can
answer
that.
I
mean
when
we
did
go.
Go
to.
One
thing
we
asked
about
was
the
change
in
the
fees
we
probably
should
have
revisited
the
insurance.
I
do
agree
with
you.
Our
risk
pool
is
requesting
that
we
start
getting
our
insurances
up
to
two
million
dollars
and
that
their
failing
is
also
is
5
million,
is
where,
in
the
very
near
future,
is
where
we
should
be
at.
P
K
K
We
we
try
to
schedule
them
to
go
kind
of
in
in
order,
and
so
we
give
them
an
approximate
time,
but
that's
essentially
it's
it's
been
that
way.
24
hour,
you
know,
and
even
I've
even
seen,
sometimes
exceptions
for
the
same
day
if,
if
urgently
needed-
but
that's
been
usually
the
case
with
with
the
building
department.
P
K
Sure
definitely
usually
the
if
it's
the
building
department,
that's
seeing,
that
is
a
there's,
a
violation
or
or
if
there
is
a
report,
that's
being
called
for
somebody
doing
construction
without
a
permit
or
somebody
out
on
the
worksite.
That's
doing
a
certain
certain
work
that
is
causing
there
to
be
a
violation
such
as
the
accumulation
of
dust
or
or
so
forth,
the
usually.
K
If
it's
the
building
department
or
the
public
works
inspectors,
they
would
go
out
there
and
they
would
see
if
they're,
if
they
verify
that
there
is
a
violation,
then
they
would
call
code
enforcement
code
enforcement
would
come
in
and
issue
the
stop,
stop
work
order.
If
there
is
a
violation,
the
violation
would
be
that
there
is
a.
There
is
a
fee.
C
And
to
add
real
quick
in
talking
four
leaf,
they
have
only
they've,
never
billed
us,
except
for
once
for
the
double
fee
they
that
revenue
went
to
the
city,
the
only
time
that
they
did
was
when
they
had
significant
time
or
their
own
staff
time
involved
and
that's
when
they
they
accepted
their
portion
of
the
fee.
Correct,
okay,.
P
P
P
P
C
C
P
Okay
and
and
we're
near
the
end
here,
so
thank
you
for
being
patient
with
me.
What
I
saw
just
some
little
comment
in
the
staff
report
about
public
works
inspector,
but
I
didn't
see
a
whole
lot
of
specific
data.
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
sure
it
looked
like
it
was
more
of
an
on-call,
but
do
they
provide
total
public
works
inspection
services
for
us,
or
is
it
only
on
an
on-call
basis?
It's.
K
C
P
P
C
P
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
few
follow-up
questions.
I
think
your
questions
were
excellent
questions
by
the
way
and
though
the
point
about
the
1
million
the
council
member
burns
brought
up
he's
absolutely
right.
The
industry
now
is
at
two
million
and
it's
moving
to
five.
It
is
moon
to
five
most
of
our
contracts
that
we
do
work
for
we're,
seeing
it
moving
to
five.
Now
I
have
a
question
for
charlie
because
the
fire
system,
you
brought
up
another,
really
good
question
there:
the
fire
inspections
they're
getting
very
complicated.
A
Q
So
you're
able
to
we
do
100
of
the
inspections,
so
we
we've
conducted
between
a
thousand
to
fifteen
hundred
inspections
a
year
we
spend
probably
between
ten
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
our
plan
checkers,
but
we're
bringing
in
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
all
we're
spending
on
plant
checkers.
Oh
it's.
Q
A
That's
what
I
was
looking
for
because
for
even
my
own
company,
we
used
to
have
in-house,
but
they
become
so
complicated
now
that
we
we're
outsourcing
this
work
because
none
of
the
fire
system,
but
you
have
the
two-way
systems
and
the
other
system
that
I
don't
know
if
that
had
to
go
into
the
amazon.
But
I
know
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
building
here
in
downtown
that
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
need
these
things.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're
aware
of
that
and
making
sure
they're
being
installed
in
a
and.
A
Q
We
need
more
exiting
oh
yeah,
that's
right.
We
do
need
to
get
so
everyone
kind
of
works
together
with
that
and
we
kind
of
tag
team
it
they
might
miss
something
or
we
might
miss
something,
but
we
kind
of
hit
each
other
and
say
hey
what
about
this?
Oh
yeah,
that's
right!
So
we
do
work
together
on
that
part
right
there,
but
make
sure
we.
F
O
A
Okay,
no
that's
what
I
wanted
to
hear,
because
I
know
that
those
things
are
incredibly
complicated
now.
So
thank
you
for
that.
That's
still
I
have,
and
I
again
I
I
agree
with
so
many
of
your
points
and
for
me,
as
far
as
in-house
or
out
contract,
it
really
comes
down
to
how
steady
are
we
for
the
next
10
years
and
so
on,
because
then
it
starts
to
make
sense,
because
we,
you
know
it's
going
to
slow
down
a
bit.
We
know
that's
coming.
D
D
But
customer
service,
yes,
because
we
are
providing
a
service
to
our
community
and
if
someone
I've
had
people
call
me
and
talk
to
me
and
stuff,
because
I
I
do
walk
downtown.
I
am
involved
with
as
much
as
I
can
be
with
the
downtown
businesses
and
I
do
hear
that
some
complaints
sometimes
and
believe
it
or
not.
D
K
That's
a
really
good
question:
customer
rick!
Thank
you!
Yes,
so
definitely
if
there
is
a
complaint,
they
can
always
talk
to
a
supervisor.
If
there's
a
complaint
within
the
building
building
department,
they
can
talk
to
miss
minnie
ordondo,
who
is
the
current,
the
building
official
for
the
city
for
the
city
for
four
leaf,
but
for
the
city
of
hollister
and
then
they
can
also
always
talk
to
to
me
as
well
as
the
interim
director
and
and
they'll
they'll.
K
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
is
anything
I
mean
it's
not
like.
You
really
want
to
advertise
hey
if
you
have
a
problem
called
and
talk
to
the
supervisor,
because
you
know
the
supervisor
is
going
to
be
super
swamped
yeah,
but
I
so
I
get
that
I
just
I
don't
know
when
I
hear
numerous
numerous
complaints.
It's
like.
I
would
just
like
for
four
leaf
whoever's
coming
out
there
doing
that,
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
we
are
providing
a
service
to.
N
N
I
myself
would
prefer
to
have
an
entire
new
contract,
and
actually,
I
think
it
should
go
up
for
out
for
an
rfp
we've
had
we've
had
four
leaf
and
they're
very
secure
with
here
in
hollister
and
in
san
benito
county
as
well.
So
because
councilman
perez
does
bring
out
a
great
a
good
point.
People
are
complaining,
I
have
had.
I
have
had
clients
use
their
services,
they
don't
have
an
option.
Obviously
they
go
in
there.
They
get
something
done,
they
get
a
list
from
a
to
b
and
then
they
come
back.
N
They
do
it
and
then
they
come
back
and
they
say:
oh
well,
you
need
this
well.
This
company
is
missing
steps
and
it's
costing
the
people.
The
clients
more
money
and,
if
you're,
telling
you're
telling
the
folks
that
they
can
go
and
they
can
make
a
complaint
with
a
supervisor.
Well
you're
talking
about
a
supervisor
for
for
leave.
How
far
is
that
complaint
gonna
get?
Yes,
you
would
have
to
go
to
abraham
and
then
how
far
is
that
complaint
going
to
get?
N
Because
poor
leap
only
has,
I
believe
you
you
said
earlier:
they
have
four
staff.
What
are
they
going
to
do
I
mean
we're
literally,
is
we're
at
their
mercy
because
of
this
contract.
You
can't
get
out
of
it,
they're
not
going
to
fire
someone
for
a
complaint,
and
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
a
discipline
we
can
enforce
on
a
third-party
contract
for
the
way
that
they're
treating
our
our
our
citizens.
N
Obviously
42
is
better
than
35
percent.
But
again
I
would
like
to
see
that
the
city
go
out
and
try
to
find
another
company
a
better
deal
of
the
vehicles
that
are
being
used.
That's
is
that
part
of
the
they're
making
money
they're
they're
in
the
they're
in
the
business,
to
make
money
we're
paying
for
those
cars
it's
their
cars,
but
trust
me
we're
paying
for
their
cars,
we're
paying
for
that
gas
that
they're
using
they're
making
money,
and
I
would
prefer
to
see
more
of
this
in-house
I
would
like.
N
I
know
it's
really
hard
to
get
employees
to
come
to
our
area
because
of
the
the
the
wages
that
are
paid
here.
But
it
is
something
to
consider
because
mayor,
you
said
you
want
to
look
into
10
years.
Well,
you've
been
mayor
for
10
years.
How
has
it
gone?
It?
Has
you
don't
know
one
way
or
the
other
how
it's
going
to
go,
but
we've
got
to
do
something,
so
the
city
can
save
money.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
F
I
N
N
N
G
A
Thank
you,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
understands.
This
is
not
a
10-year
extension.
I
don't
know
how
that
popped
into
the
conversation.
It's
why
it's
so
important
to
be
factual
here.
That's
why
we're
making
that
correction?
It
is
not
a
tenure
extension.
What
this
is
is
adjustment
to
the
fees
percentage,
so
the
city
will
gain
more
larger
percentage
of
the
fees.
There's
many
conversations
about
what
I
heard
earlier
about
what
we
can
do
can't
do.
A
I
can
tell
you
again
in
this
industry:
it
changes
so
fast
with
these
codes
that
some
of
these
companies,
what
they
do,
they
have
experts
in
a
place
that
they
have
to
stay
up
on.
All
these
codes
take
exams
constantly
to
keep
up
with
the
changes,
as
I
mentioned,
with
the
fire
chief
and
his
department
uses
some
of
the
experts
to
do
to
analyze
some
of
these
plans.
It's
not
something,
as
in
the
old
days
where
you
can
just
read
them
over
the
counter
and
and
make
an
approval,
can
it
be
done?
A
Of
course
it
can
be
done.
The
key
is
what
is
in
the
horizon
for
the
next
10
years
and
what
type
of
expertise,
because
if
the
building
that's
coming,
it's
all
about
these
larger
facilities,
you're
not
going
to
find
the
people.
You
need
to
do
that
type
of
work
to
work
here,
locally,
you're
going
to
need
experts
that
are
in
that
field,
because
there's
a
lot
of
engineering
background
that
has
to
go
with
these
things.
So
it's
again,
this
industry
has
changed
just
in
the
in
my
time,
doing
construction
work.
A
Incredibly
in
the
last
five
years,
I
can
tell
you
again:
even
my
own
firm
has
started
to
contract
out
because
of
the
changes
and
the
complicated
procedures
that
are
have
to
go
through
now
to
make
sure
they're
meeting
the
requirements.
So
it's
not
a
10-year
extension.
It's
an
adjustment
to
the
contract
for
the
percentage,
a
larger
percentage
of
the
city
and.
F
A
We
move
forward
and
have
a
better
plan
with
our
general
plan
being
done,
then
we
can
have
a
conversation
about.
Where
are
we
going
in
our
community
in
growth?
So
we
have
something
stable,
so
we're
not
having
to
hire
people
and
have
the
nightmare
of
having
lay
people
off
if
the
economy
just
stops
on
us
again,
as
it
happened
in
the
past,
and
that
I
can
say
I
was
not
a
on
the
council,
but
I
can
remember
working
with
the
people
in
the
building
department
and
how
sad
it
was.
A
A
I
got
to
tell
you,
I'm
not
hearing
a
lot
of
complaints
and
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
if
there
are
complaints
that
they
should
be
tracked,
what
those
complaints
are,
because
that's
the
important
part,
because
sometimes
I'll
hear.
What
I
do
here
sometimes
is
the
city
is
so
hard
to
work
with.
They
want
you
to
jump
through
hoops
to
get
your
plans
approved.
A
I
said,
that's
part
of
the
process
of
submitting
plans
is
making
sure
you're
doing
it
right
and
then
I'll
get
the
response.
Well,
I
told
them
I'll
come
back
and
bring
the
other
part
later.
It
does
not
work
that
way.
The
old
days
it
might
have
today
it
doesn't,
and
it
should
never
work
that
way.
You
have
to
bring
a
complete
set
of
plans
that
meet
today's
codes
and
today's
standards,
not
a
you,
can
trust
me
I'll,
be
back
with
some
scratch
paper
to
show
you
what
we're
gonna
do
it
doesn't
work?
A
P
C
P
C
P
You
know
maybe
at
a
a
follow-up
conversation.
I
don't
want
to
take
this
conversation
too
far
off
track.
I
originally
was
not
inclined
to
want
to
vote
for
this,
but
since
it's
simply
about
increasing
our
percentage
and
reducing
theirs,
I
I
just
think
it
you
know
for
the
here
and
now
this
makes
perfect
sense.
So
I'm
going
to
support
this,
but
I
would
like
to
see
this
come
back
with
a
public
conversation
about
an
rfp
or
rfq,
and
this
contract's
been
in
in
place
for
how
many
years.
P
F
A
D
P
D
P
B
G
A
A
I'm
I'm
a
believer
of
the
separation
of
church
of
state.
I've
seen
we've
all
seen
recently
the
issues
in
afghanistan.
I
happened
to
travel
to
afghanistan
in
2003
and
I
can
remember
the
conversation
about
islam
and
christianity
and
everything
else,
and
you
know,
there's
a
reason:
there's
a
separation
between
church
or
state
and
when
there's
not.
A
I
can
share
pictures
of
my
time
in
afghanistan
and
you'll
understand
what
starts
to
happen.
So
I
asked
for
this
to
come
back,
so
we
can
have
a
conversation
and
either
decide
to
move
forward
or
not
move
forward
and
then
get
ready
for
the.
If
we
decide
to
change
the
rules,
we
can
have
a
a
new
starting
point,
so
I
did
ask
for
this:
is
there
any
questions
from
council
members.
D
D
D
We
got
freedom
over
here,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
this
or
that
to
me.
It's
like,
let's
get
to
a
vote
and
move
on
because
we're
gonna
have,
in
my
view,
we're
gonna
have
to
wait
till
we
get
a
fifth
person
up
here.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
I
don't
know.
I
I'm
me
personally,
I'm
pretty
sick
and
tired
of
this
flag.
This
whole
flag
issue.
It's
like
the
whole
application
process,
the
whole
everything-
and
I
don't
think
it's
well
I'll.
Wait
till
the
next
item.
G
M
Good
evening,
council,
I
would
like
to
express
my
appreciation
to
council
for
your
public
service
and
the
resolution
tonight
on
the
importance
of
recovery,
a
pastor
church
that
was
involved
in
that,
and
I
know
the
value
of
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
resolution.
Thank
you
also
for
recognizing
the
constitution
of
the
united
states
and
constitutionally.
M
M
M
R
Good
evening
members,
I
just
have
I'm
also
looking
for
a
yes
on
the
christian
flag
to
fly
many
benefits
and
I
think
quoting
the
constitution
needs
to
be
revised
for
you
to
understand
that
there
was
never
an
intent
by
our
founders
to
find
it
necessary
to
have
the
separation.
It
was
meant
to
be
a
separation
from
government
going
into
the
into
the
churches.
That's
where
we
get
the
separation,
so
you
have
a
kind
of
the
other
way
around.
R
R
R
The
fact
that
if
every
chris,
if
every
person
would
abide
by
the
cons
by
the
by
the
ten
commandments,
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
police
officers,
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
prisons.
We
wouldn't
have
to
have
anything,
but
now
we
choose
not
to
so.
We
try
to
eradicate
god
in
every
society
in
history
has
in.
It
has
shown
us
that
they
cave
and
fall
and
deteriorate
out
of
society
for
the
lack
of
a
god
and
the
god
of
the
cro,
the
god
that
created
our
constitution.
R
Our
founders
found
it
necessary
for
them
to
quote
scripture
50
over
1500
times.
I
believe
it
is.
They
sought
the
face
of
god,
and
I'm
asking
you,
gentlemen
here
to
do
the
same,
be
respectful
for
the
community.
It's
a
huge
community
here
in
hollister
that
are
faith-based,
and
I
know
a
few
of
you
attend
certain
churches
and
that's
a
good
thing
so
not
against
any
any
other
reason.
But
I
just
like
to
know
why
you
up
front
here
have
fear
over
a
flag
that
represents
christianity.
R
F
I
Good
evening,
council
sandy
patterson
your
mark,
and
I
am
also
looking
for
a
unanimous,
unanimous
vote
for
the
christian
flag.
The
application
has
been
there
fly
it.
There's
no
excuse.
You
use
the
excuse
of
separation
of
church
and
state
nowhere
in
the
constitution.
Does
it
state
separation
of
church
and
state.
Nowhere
in
the
first
amendment
does
it
state
separation
of
church
and
state
you're
using
that
as
an
excuse.
It's
not
fair!
I
I
I
G
A
L
L
Your
own
policy
states
this
that
you
will
not
discriminate
based
on
religion.
So
if
a
muslim
group
wants
to
raise
their
flag,
then
they
can
go
through
the
same
process
as
the
christian
flag
group
did
to
get
their
flag
raised.
That
is
fair.
That
is
not
showing
preference
to
one
group
or
religion.
Yet
that
is
following
your
own
policy.
L
Separation
of
church
and
state
means
that
you
cannot
adopt
and
require
your
city,
employees
or
anyone
else
to
follow
one
religion
only.
You
cannot
do
that
as
a
city
council,
but
that's
what
that
means.
You
cannot
adopt
one
religion
and
require
it.
That
is
what
that
means.
It
does
not
mean
that
you
can't
raise
a
christian
flag
because
then
you're
discriminating
against
a
christian
group.
You
are
literally
following
your
own
discrimination
clause
illegally.
O
L
L
N
N
N
N
N
The
idea
of
putting
up
a
christian
flag
is
only
come
about
because
of
the
lgbtq
plus
flag,
the
rainbow
flag
going
up,
and
it
was
if
you're
going
to
fly
that
then
we're
going
to
do
this.
This
is
this
is
all
what
this
is
about.
You
have
these
people
here,
calling
out
that
the
christian
flag
represents
everybody,
but
there
were
the
ones
who
claim
that
they
don't
want
the
gay
flag
up
there
because
of
it's
immoral.
N
D
B
D
B
This
is
what
happens
when
we
play
those
games.
If
there
is
a
tied
vote
tonight,
I
will
vote
to
break
that
tie.
I
guarantee
you
that
if
we're
gonna
go
there,
let's
go
there,
bring
it
on
bring
the
circus
on
bring
the
theatrics
on
bring
the
drama
on.
We
don't
need
to
go
there.
We
shouldn't
have
gone
in
the
beginning.
B
A
D
A
A
B
B
A
A
I
A
D
A
G
P
D
P
B
A
G
G
G
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
So
if
you're
going
to
rescind
it
then
just
take
the
whole
flagpole
down,
you
wasted
12
500
of
the
taxpayers,
money
just
to
fly
the
pride
flag,
nobody's
arguing
about
that,
but
don't
and
don't
use
salmon
batista
in
an
example
because
they
can't
even
fly
it
right.
They
put
the
pride
flag
above
the
american
flag.
That's
a
no-no!
The
only
time
that
is
done
is
on
a
u.s
naval
ship
by
a
chaplain
and
it's
the
christian
flag
that
goes
above
the
american
flag.
And
it's
during
the
service
know
your
history.
M
M
Second
reason:
why
would
you
want
to
follow
san
juan
batista?
They
don't
represent.
The
citizens
of
hollister
hollister
is
bigger
and
has
more
inclusive
values
in
that
san
juan
batista
does
not
allow
for
religious
flags
to
be
flown
is
extremely
ironic
in
the
fact
that
it
was
the
mission
that
put
them
on
the
map.
M
M
M
R
That
is
very
unfortunate
because,
as
as
I
re-read
your
first
day,
victory
celebration
you
had
and,
and
a
few
of
you
spoke
and
I'll-
be
quoting
ksbw
channel
eight
and
also
san
benito
link.
I
read
and
listened
and
understood
what
happened.
The
speakers
were
were
allegedly
waiting
for
time
as
today
to
implement
what
you
always
wanted
to,
and
that
would
be
a
24
7
pride
flag
flying
in
hollister
allegedly
also
stated
was
the
morgan
hill
policy.
At
our
day.
R
R
R
R
L
L
Where
did
this
come
from?
Is
it
because
you
don't
like
jumping
through
your
own
hoops
that
you
deviously
imposed
on
the
public,
hoping
they
would
not
bother
going
through
all
the
trouble
and
difficulty
the
way
you
designed
it
to
be,
you
think,
by
adopting
a
totalitarian,
totalitarian
policy
similar
to
san
juan
batista's,
that
your
process
will
somehow
align
and
be
comparable.
L
L
L
L
Agenda
it
does
not
reflect
the
entire
community
of
hollister
at
all.
It
does
not
reflect
me.
It
does
not
reflect
90
of
the
community
so
when
elia
says
that
the
christian
flag
doesn't
reflect
her,
this
doesn't
reflect
me
and
a
lot
of
people.
So
I'm
sorry,
but
if
we're
both
in
a
protected
class,
how
is
it
that
one
can
be
flown
in
one?
Not
so
your
policy
was
fine.
We
jumped
through
your
hoops.
L
L
L
Something
and
to
get
it
passed
at
any
cost
and
then
lying
and
deceiving
the
community
into
believing
that
your
motives
were
pure,
but
then
surprise,
you're,
not
following
your
own
policy
and
you
decide
out
of
the
blue
to
slap
the
people
in
the
face
and
rescind
it
because
you
know
your
base
for
support
and
your
flag
flying
is
a
slam
dunk.
So
you
just
want
one
flag
foam.
You
purposely
did
this.
G
L
N
Everyone's
in
every
one
government
uses
other
other
government
and
municipalities,
ordinances
policies,
everybody
cuts
and
pays
in
may
and
comes
up
with
a
policy,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
confusion
is
or
maybe
that
just
the
public
is
not
aware
of
how
things
work,
but
with
with
coming
up
and
and
and
saying
that
now
you're
going
to
you've
changed
your
mind
and
everybody's
entitled.
To
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
many
times
an
ordinance
is
passed
and
then
you
come
back
later
on
and
you
know
what
we
made.
N
We
made
there's
an
error
in
here.
It's
there's
no
clarification
on
here.
So
now
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
clarify
it
and
kudos
to
the
council
for
saying:
hey,
you
know
what
we
didn't
get
it
right.
It's
one
of
the
things
the
mayor
always
says:
let's
go
slow,
let's
take
our
time.
We
want
to
get
it
right.
N
A
N
All
right:
well,
then,
the
policy,
the
policy
as
it
stands,
needs
to
be
tweaked
or
it
needs
to
be
rescinded,
and
you
all
have
made
a
choice
that
you're
going
to
rescind
it,
and
I
was
never
for
a
policy
that
made
you
had
a
person
had
to
go
out
and
get
a
hundred
signatures,
and
I
didn't
even
want
minors
in
there.
But
then
you
know
one
of
the
council.
Members
said
no,
no,
let's
get
miners
involved,
so
they
can
involve
they
can
get
involved
in
the
process.
N
I
thought
it
should
only
be
registered
voters
that
should
do
this.
It
it
turned
into.
It,
turned
into
too
much
for
the
city
clerk
to
have
to
go
through
this
and
have
to
go
through
all
those
documentations.
I
don't
think
people
realize
what
work
has
to
get
done
with
this
policy.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
P
Remember
his
pleasure,
so
I
I'd
like
to
first
of
all
get
some
clarification
from
mr
epperson,
as
I
understand
how
things
have
unfolded
this
evening,
not
taken
into
account
or
actually
I,
as
I
think
this
is
I'd,
say
it
taking
into
account
that
we're
proposing
to
rescind
the
current
policy
on
flags
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
fly
the
christian
flag.
As
I
understand
it,
we
are
going
to
fly
the
christian
flag,
regardless
of
what
goes
on
on
this
vote
of
council.
Am
I
on
point.
F
P
G
P
Any
of
us
and
I
do
support
religion
as
well,
regardless
of
the
religion
bringing
it
forward
is
so,
and
so
I'm
absolutely
going
to
support
this
because
it
might
not
be
the
be-all
end-all,
but
I
think
it's
a
better
process
in
the
current
process
and
if
we
need
to
go
in
and
create
a
new
policy,
we
certainly
have
the
ability
to
do
so,
but
I
think
that
we
will
be
in
a
better
place,
so
I
am
100
going
to
support
the
revoking
of
this
policy.
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
B
B
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
councilmember
burns.
I
was
a
little
bit
confused
too.
I
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear.
The
majority
of
this
council
approved
the
flight
of
the
christian
flag,
the
blue
lives
flag
and
the
lgbtq
plus
flag.
All
of
those
flag
proposals
were
brought
forth
through
our
existing
flag
policy
that
we
adopted.
B
It's
happening
every
single
one
that
came
were
approved
as
of
tonight,
so
we
are
not
hypocrites.
We
didn't
go
back
on
our
policy.
We
abided
by
our
policy
it's
over
with
it's
done
and
over
with
from
this
point
forward,
I
too
support
rescinding
the
policy
because
of
all
of
the
divisiveness
that
has
come
for
from
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
D
No,
for
the
simple
reason
I
got
a
big
ass
headache
excuse
my
language.
I
got
a
headache.
I've
had
a
headache
for
most
of
the
state,
but
the
and
this
this
policy
is
is
just
way
way
too
much.
It's.
It's
there's
nothing
wrong
with
the
application
process.
The
only
thing
that's
wrong
with
it
is
the
processing
of
the
application
process.
It's
it's
up
here
on
the
and
the
dyes.
D
If,
if
we've
had
no
problems,
I
mean
because
up
to
date,
from
my
understanding,
we
we've
passed
all
the
flags,
but
I
think
the
the
date
I
that
I
applied
for
the
christian
flag
was
back
in
june.
This
is
july,
so
and-
and
you
know
we-
we
have
threats
of
going
to
the
attorney
general.
You
know
I
I
don't
remember
the
only
thing
that
the
pride
flag
had
any
issues
with
was
was
fulfilling
the
application
process,
and
that
was
with
the
picture
and
once
the
picture
was
in
everything
was
approved.
D
So
you
know
what
I
don't
see
nothing
wrong
with
the
process.
100
signatures-
maybe
that's
too
much,
but
I
I
think
it
leaves
a
level
playing
field
for
everybody.
You
know
what
I'm
I'm
sick
and
tired
of
this
issue.
This
is
so
ridiculous.
I
know
I'm
not
the
only
one
I
get
phone
calls
all
the
time
and
and
if
anybody
knows,
if
you
call
me,
I
answer
my
phone.
If
I
don't
answer
it,
I
will
call
you
back
I've
guaranteed.
I
will
meet
with
you
all
anytime,
and
I
hear
I
get
it.
D
I
get
it.
I
don't
like
hearing
constituent
against
a
constituent
community
against
community
that
you're
right.
It's
divisive
and
you
know
what
I'm
ashamed
of
my
behavior
up
here
at
this
time,
but
I
am
just
so
sick
and
tired
of
it,
and
you
know
what
I'm
probably
going
to
get
attitude
from
a
couple
of
people
up
here
and
that's.
Okay.
I
understand
the,
but
you
know
what.
D
Whoever
I
I
just
if,
if
this
needs
to
be
amended,
I
say
amend
it
so
so
in
the
meantime,
if
we,
if
you
rescind
this
now,
which
is
probably
going
to
happen,
you
guys
are
going
to
rescind
this,
and
so
now
we're
not
going
to
have
a
flag
policy
in
place.
So
how
soon
before
we
get
a
flag
policy
in
place,
and
so
what's
going
to
happen
about
someone
wants
to
come
in
tomorrow
and
put
up
a
flag,
an
application
for
the
the
policy
we're
not
going
to
have
one.
P
I
do
so,
I
I
think,
council
member
perez,
you
bring
up
a
good
question
so
assuming
somebody
walks
in
tomorrow
and
we've
rescinded
this
policy
tonight
and
they
want
to
say
I
want
to
fly
this
particular
flag
at
this
particular
time.
How
would
that?
How
would
that
find
its
way
to
council,
and,
and
would
it
be
documented
and
and
how
would
it
my
presumption
is?
It
would
have
to
get
on
a
council
agenda.
So
if
I
came
in
tomorrow,
it
may
take
two
weeks
till
the
next
council
meeting
and
depending
on.
P
C
It's
correct
and
we
actually
usually
ask
for
two
council
meetings
so
that
we
can
get
it
written
up
and
then
on.
That's
that's
going
to
be
the
issue.
Is
there
is
no
policy,
so
it's
going
to
be
brought
up
by
a
council
member
and
we-
and
we
have
always
asked
the
council
members
to
bring
it
up
under
informational
section
of
the
agenda
to
put
stuff
on
the
agent
on
the
next
agenda.
P
So
best
case
scenario
within
two
weeks,
worst
case
scenario
within
a
month,
correct
and
and
so
again
by
having
no
policy
in
essence,
we
actually
do
it's
an
informal
policy,
correct
you
bring
it
and
it's
documented
and
it
comes
forward,
and
then
the
council
says
either
yes
or
no,
and
a
simple
majority
would
make
that
decision.
Am
I
correct,
correct
and,
and
so
with
a
current
council
of
four
that
would
require
three
out
of
four.
P
O
P
I
honestly
think
this
is
relatively
simple
and
I
actually
think
it
can
work
and
again
if
it
doesn't
work,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
bring
it
back
and
say
hey.
We
need
to
do
something
here,
but
I
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
forward
and
try
it,
because
I
don't
think
it
could
create
any
more
challenges
than
we've
already
created
for
ourselves
with
the
initial
policy,
and
so
I'm
going
to
support
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir
yeah,
and
I
would
say,
oh.
A
A
citizen
of
our
community
can
go
to
a
council
member
request,
support
to
raise
a
flag
that
councilman
would
bring
it
through
the
process,
as
you
just
mentioned,
and
if
it's
approved
by
a
majority
that
flag
fries
much
simpler
easier,
and
we
go
through
this
without
a
lot
of
the
misinformation
that
we're
seeing.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
recommendation
or
suggestion
of
putting
additional
flagpoles
out
there,
because
I
thought
that
turned
out
really
well
and
it
looks
beautiful.
A
A
C
Yeah
everything
I
was
going
to
bring
up
is
that
if
this
policy
is
rescinded,
that
we
would
ask
that
people
would
be
timely
about
their
requests
and,
if
you're,
bringing
in
a
request
that
is
at
the
last
minute
that
puts
staff
in
it
in
in
a
bad
light.
So
we
asked
that
you
would
be
that
citizen
would
be
timely
and
give
us
the
the
up
to
two
weeks
to
a
month
to
get
it
on
the
agenda.
A
And
we
should
understand
it's
more
like
the
the
likely
of
the
month
and
to
we
don't
want
staff
to
be
burdened
with
more
work
or
trying
to
scramble
around
to
try
to
make
it
happen.
So
I
think
we
all
understand
that
so
we
can.
We
can
live
with
that
part
of
it.
I
believe
with
that.
Is
there
emotion
on
this
item.
B
A
P
B
C
F
F
K
F
C
P
F
F
F
A
F
F
F
J
B
C
C
P
B
J
A
A
A
A
A
It's
really
important
to
have
their
participation
in
this,
because
really
it
comes
down
to
those
two
cities
to
try
to
get
the
support
from
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
silicon
valley
to
get
that
road
widened.
So
it's
a
long
process,
but
it's
nice
to
have
them
on
board
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
more
meetings,
because
we
all
know,
even
if
we
fix
highway
25,
we
have
to
get
there
and
101
is
a
bottleneck.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
that
work
with
them
and
all
the
other
reports
are
everything's
running
running
well.
A
We
also
have
decided,
as
a
group,
to
really
focus
push
hard
to
get
highway.
25
done
within
that
eight
year.
Time
span
because
there's
a
lot
of
lot
of
hurdles
in
there.
We
can't
afford
to
have
what
happened
to
highway
156
happen
here,
or
that
project
should
have
taken
eight
to
ten
years
ended
up
taking
20
to
30
years
to
it
finally
happened,
so
we're
we're
moving
hard
on
it,
working
towards
it,
and
that's
my
update
for
for
committees.
P
Thank
you
mayor
for
council
member
perez's
benefit.
My
laundry
list
is
quite
abbreviated
tonight
and
so
a
couple
comments
came
up
in
public
comment
from
different
speakers,
and,
and
so
I
know,
we've
had
conversations-
I
just
don't
remember
the
specifics,
and
so
the
city
manager
miller.
My
recollection
was
that
we
were
talking
at
some
point
at
council
member
vice
mayor,
rosendes,
request
and
and
council
support,
to
create
a
historical
commission
and
or
historical
preservation,
commission
or
committee,
and
and
for
the
life
of
me.
C
K
K
P
K
P
C
P
Certainly
wasn't
30
or
40
000
that
was
alluded
to
this
evening
correct.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I'm
also
curious.
I've
heard
some
comments
from
the
community
tonight
that
have
concerned
me,
and
I
too
have
witnessed
some
issues
with
these
new
little
zippy
scooter
things
that
are
ripping
around
town
and
people
not
wearing
helmets,
people,
not
ablating
biting
by
the
laws,
and
so
chief.
P
I
don't
know
that
your
department
would
have
any
statistical
data
currently
as
it
relates
to
I'm,
not
suggesting
necessarily
that
we
need
to
take
a
hard
line
in
a
lot
of
enforcement.
Maybe
a
softer
line
with
education,
but-
and
I
won't
put
you
on
the
spot
now,
but
if
maybe
within
a
month
we
could
get
some
data
about
the
law,
enforcement's
concerns
and
enforcement.
P
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
because
I
know
that
this
is
a
pilot
project
and
if,
if,
if
we've
got
our
citizens
walking
on
the
sidewalk
in
fear,
I
will
never
support
that
pro
that
pilot
program
going
forward,
even
if
it
it
creates
great
joy
and
certainly
accidents
where
they've
either
been
at
fault
or
they've,
gotten
crunched
because
of
inattentive
drivers.
I
would
like
the
statistical
data.
My
sense
is
it's
like
a
six
month
pilot
program.
Is
that
what
I
recall
yeah.
C
Welcome
that
the
one
response
I
would
have
is
the
concern
was
the
vets
memorial
courtyard.
We
found
out
that
people
were
using
those
on
the
steps,
and
so
we've
asked
bird
to
set
up
their
gps
to
block
that
area
out
and
we'll
work
with
them
a
little
bit
more
to
try
to
get
people
off
the
sidewalks,
and
they
should
be
able
to
grid
that
out
so
that
they're
not
on
the
sidewalks.
P
O
Yeah
yeah,
if
I
may
add
the
laws
concerning
the
helmet,
it's
only
up
to
15
miles
an
hour.
So
unless
they're
regulated
to
15
miles
an
hour
and
then
there
is
a
violation
for
someone,
an
adult
to
ride
that
in
excess
of
15
miles
an
hour.
So
my
understanding,
whether
they're
going
to
be
regulated
to
15
and
I've,
been
told
that
they
can
go
faster.
O
P
C
P
Know
I
I
wasn't
aware
that
mr
miller,
but
I
also
wonder
if
maybe
we
couldn't
approach
them
to
maybe
give
us.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
going
to
arbitrarily
pick
a
number
500
helmets
to
then
give
to
our
police
department
so
as
part
of
their
education
when
they
see
these
knuckleheads
write
them
without
helmets
that
they
go
here
now
put
it
on
now,
wear
it
and
and
wear
it
in
good
health.
You
know.
Sometimes
something
free
serves
a
much
better
message
than
an
enforcement
citation
which
in
some
cases
might
need
to
happen
as
well.
P
O
Not
to
throw
anyone
under
the
bus,
but
acting
chief
bedola
was
telling
me
about
some
of
the
fire
responses
that
they've
gone
to
with
some
people
falling
or
getting
hit
by
them.
So
I
don't
know
that
right
now
we're
actually
tracking
them,
but
it
would
make
it.
It
would
need
an
effort
on
our
part
to
actually
track
the
incidents
that
are
involving
a
bird.
But
if
that's
a
concern
as
well
and
see
how
many
medical
calls
that
the
our
public
safety
officers
have
gone
to
regarding
these,
these
vehicles.
P
C
P
P
I've
I've
expressed
it
multiple
times
that
I
don't
think
it's
in
the
council's
best
interest
to
be
the
decider
of
fact
in
in
appeal
hearings
or
revocation
hearings,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
an-
and
I
don't
know
maybe
it'd
be
better
on
a
special
meeting
or
something,
but
I
don't
think
it's
I've
looked
at
it.
I
don't
think
it's
that
complicated
and
I
think
that
there
could
be
some
simple
revisions
kind
of
as
we've
gone
full
circle
on
the
flag
policy.
P
C
C
A
Expressed
earlier,
there
are
a
few
licensees
that
are
holding
their
licenses,
trying
to
sell
them,
and
that's
not
what
this
was
about.
We
need
to
go
back
and
make
sure
the
licenses
are
being
applied
for
either
being
used
or
they
lose
their
licenses
and
also
the
actual
revenue
where
we
are
receiving
from
these
licensees,
and
I
think
there
was
a
conversation
we
had
at
the
very
beginning
that
they
were
going
to
find
a
way
to
get
out
of
paying
a
lot
of
these
fees.
And
that's
exactly
what
has
happened.
C
A
C
A
D
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
was:
was
that
a
reporter
was
ever
conversation
because
I
thought
it
was
tim
burns
was
giving
his
report,
and
yet
we
had
three
people
talking
and
we
talk
about
the
rules
so
anyways
like
I
was
saying:
solar
lights.
What's
the
report
on
the
solar
lights
because
we're
missing
six
street
is
missing
some
some
light
over
there.
It's
getting
darker
earlier
we're
having
more
dark
time
than
day
time,
night
time
and
daytime.
D
C
D
Sorry
september
17th
we
had
the
mexican
independence
celebration
here
at
the
veterans
park
combined
with
the
music
in
the
park,
thursday,
music
in
the
park
was
a
great
thing.
Actually
it
was
mostly
the
the
music
in
the
park.
It
was
a
great
celebration
day
for
the
hispanic
culture
here,
I'm
looking
forward
to
next
year.
D
Finding
some
staff-
maybe
I
don't
know
if
we
are
going
to
get
an
ad
hoc
committee
together
or
how
this
has
to
happen,
but
to
do
a
celebration
for
a
large
portion
of
our
community,
which
seems
to
be
hispanic
and
the
city
cleanup.
Sorry,
I
wasn't
there
guys
I
kind
of
yeah.
You
know
some
people
do
anything
to
get
out
of
work
right,
but
you
guys
did
a
great
job.
You
always
do
a
great
job.
It's
it's
so
important
to
people
just
walk
around
our
city.
D
I
go
through
downtown
pretty
often
and
I
see
trash
walking
down
hillcrest
santa
ana.
We
see
all
kinds
of
stuff
out
there
and
for
for
all
the
city
cleanup,
it's
like
really
great
and
so
to
enter
the
to
the
public.
Please,
before
you
think
of
throwing
something
out
your
window.
Just
put
it
in
your
car,
put
it
in
a
trash
can
also.
D
D
What's
the
future
of
our
our
water
resources,
I
mean
yeah,
we
got
good,
we
got
our
tables
are
full,
but
basically
with
the
way
I
look
at
it,
we're
on
reserve
tanks
and
what
happens
when
that's
gone.
If
we're
not
going
to
get
any
rain
this
year
or
next
year,
I
know
the
the
really
sad
part
about
that
is.
I
won't
be
able
to
jet
ski
so,
but
the
good
part
is.
I
won't
break
my
other
ankle,
but
the
I
I'd
really
like
to
see.
D
D
I
I
think
we
we
should
be
a
little
bit
more
proactive
and
send
something
out
a
little
bit
more
regular
than
that.
I
think,
but
it's
the
colorado
river
drying
up
with
all
the
lakes
drying
up.
I
don't
know
if
I've,
if
anyone
else
knows
about
it,
but
it's
like
there's
there's
a
lot
of
empty
lakes
out
there,
and
so
it's
I
think
it's
water
is
really
important
to
us,
but
anyways.
D
D
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
A
couple
of
things.
I
was
hoping
that
if
and
when
we
go
to
hiring
or
contracting
with
landscapers
that
we
prioritize
hiring
local
landscapers
if
we
can
ensure
that
they
get
to
to
apply
for
the
rfps
and
we
provide
them
all
the
information
everything
they
need
to
know
and
I've
had
that
conversation
with
the
with
the
city
manager.
B
So
I'm
hoping
my
colleagues
will
agree
with
me
and
I
don't
know
if
we've
got
to
bring
it
back
as
an
item,
but
I'm
just
hoping
that
if
and
when
we
get
to
that,
we
hire
local
contract
landscapers
I've
had
a
request
is
tina
silly
out
in
the
audience
I'm
assuming
she
was
tina's
concert
series
that
was
very
successful.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
good
things
about
it.
I
did
have
a
request
to
have
a
more
spanish
music
presence
there
and
I
do
have
a
contact
for
you.
B
That's
willing
to
help
out
tina
if
you'd
like,
and
I
understand
that
this
year
is
probably
all
wrapped
up,
but
maybe
we
can
include
some
more
mexican
music
nights
on
it,
but
kudos
to
you,
and
I
just
think
it's
phenomenal
with
what
you've
done
there
and
keep
up
the
good
work,
but
we
can
maybe
include
a
couple
more
mexican
music
nights
whenever
you
decide
to
do
it
again.
That
would
be
awesome.
B
I
I
like
the
the
idea
of
the
scooters
just
hearing
what
what
the
conversation
was
about,
just
lowering
it
to
15
miles
per
hour.
That's
a
great
idea
and,
of
course,
getting
out
helmets
regardless
right,
because
you
should
always
wear
a
helmet.
I
believe-
and
then
I
do
too
would
like
to
see
the
statistics
about
how
many
incidents
we've
had
to
go
respond
to.
So
if
we
can
make
that
a
priority,
I'd
appreciate
it
and
then
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
people
to
get
vaccinated.
B
I
know
this
is
a
touchy
subject,
but
I've
seen
it
especially
this
last
week
for
some
reason
in
our
community
how
it's
touched
people
close
to
me.
I
would
say
I
don't
want
to
say
too
much,
but
I've
seen
the
effects
of
people
dying
this
past
week
firsthand
and
there's
one
gentleman.
I
believe
he
loves
him
and
his
family.
The
demise
was
tricked
and
he
passed
away
of
covid
and
before
he
passed
he
wanted
to
document
his
journey
on
social
media.
B
I
think
it's
an
important
message
tonight
and
I
really
really
appreciate
him
and
his
and
his
family
for
sharing
that
message
that
he
admitted
he
was
wrong,
that
he
was
a
big
proponent
of
the
vex.
He
said
at
the
time
there
were
12
people
in
the
hospital,
they
were
all
unvaccinated
and
it
could
have
been
prevented.
He
urged
people
to
get
vaccinated
and
unfortunately
he
did
pass
away
a
couple
days
ago
and
if
it's
okay
with
my
colleagues
I
just
I
know,
a
lot
of
people
have
been
touched
by
coped.
B
A
Thank
you,
sir.
I
would
ask
if,
if
possible,
actually
a
few
people
died
in
our
community
in
the
last
week?
If
we
can
maybe
adjourn
in
the
memory
of
all
of
them,
I
know
we
don't
have
all
their
names
here,
but
several
people
have
passed
away
in
the
past
past
week.
So
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
recognize
that.
B
P
B
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
few
things.
Also
rhodes.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
staff,
our
engineering.
They
got,
these
roads
improved
they're,
looking
really
nice.
No,
it's
not
the
end
of
it.
We
had
a
lot
more
to
go,
but
it's
nice
to
see
5th
street
washington
rustic
and
no
we're
going
to
be
starting
mccarthy
park
area
pretty
soon
and
then
many
many
many
more
streets.
A
To
all
of
you
on
the
work
on
the
streets
and
all
the
work
coming
up
caltrans,
I
did
speak
with
caltrans
again
about
taking
over
the
maintenance
of
pinnacle
national
highway
they're
in
favor
of
it
they're
going
to
again
get
us
the
information,
so
we
can
start
talking
about
it.
We
see
those
weeds
there
folks
and
unfortunately,
we're
not
allowed
to
touch
that
area
unless
they
give
us
permission
to
do
it
and
they
are
working
on
it
and
we
should
get
that
information
soon
get
some
of
those
weeds
out
of
there.
A
Hollister
litter
project
awesome
work,
guys
nice
to
see
the
community
come
together.
Our
rec
department,
working
with
them
key
club,
superman
jim
hart
over
there,
always
everywhere,
helping
the
community
and
all
the
kids
involved.
It
was
a
lot
of
work.
A
lot
of
trash
picked
up,
but
a
good
portion
of
our
city
was
cleaned
up
and
thank
you
so
so
much
to
everybody
involved
in
that
process.
Looking
forward
to
doing
it,
maybe
once
a
quarter
pick
different
areas,
so
we
can
keep
getting
our
city
clean.
You
know
a
lot
of
it
really
is.
A
Actually,
people
assume
it's
people
throwing
trash
out
the
window.
Unfortunately,
some
of
it
is
that
a
lot
of
it
is
really
trash
coming
out
of
your
pickup
trucks.
Out
of
the
back,
please
do
not
leave
trash
in
your
pickup.
It
is
not
a
garbage
can
and
when
you
get
to
speed,
that's
why
we
see
it
on
the
more
of
the
main
roads
it
lifts
the
trash
and
takes
it
out
onto
our
streets.
Please
pick
up
your
trash
out
of
your
trucks.
A
A
This
the
state
has
now
decided
to
have
more
direct
control
about
growth
in
our
communities
without
allowing
our
communities
to
make
that
decision.
I
met
with
a
group
of
mayors
that
are
discussing
this.
It
looks
like
there's
going
to
be
an
initiative
put
onto
the
ballot
to
take
back
control
from
the
state
to
have
communities,
decide
their
own
fate
on
growth
that
is
probably
coming
in
the
next
election.
A
A
That
was
a
pretty
clever
idea,
so
there
is
creativity
out
there
tina
left
the
concert
series
or
there
she
is
I've,
just
been
so
happy
to
see
the
concert
series,
I'm
looking
forward
to
next
season
and
see
if
we
can
have
a
stage
set
up
every
weekend-
and
you
know
every
few
weeks
hire
a
a
bigger
name
band
to
come
out
to
downtown
so
we're
bringing
in
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
people
to
downtown
foot
traffic
is
good.
Some
people
not
might
not
understand
that,
but
it's
good
it's
what
we've
been
working
towards.
A
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
next
year's
concert
series
and
then,
let's
understand
what
we
need
to
do
to
be
ready
as
far
as
the
stage
or
different
things,
we
need
to
get
ready,
so
excellent
job
and
I
agree
there
does
need
to
be
more
events
from
spanish
mexican
music
and
different
genres
throughout
so
bluegrass.
I
love
bluegrass,
so
hey,
let's
bring
it
all
out.
Okay,
and
that
is
all
I
have
on
this
city
manager.
C
C
The
other
thing
we're
working
on
and
should
be
coming.
Hopefully,
within
a
month
is
we've
been
working
on
the
bonds
to
for
road
improvements
and
then
also
for
our
water
improvements,
so
we'll
be
working
on
that
and
maybe
to
help
secure
those
those
funds,
maybe
coming
up
with
a
little
bit
change
to
our
reserve
policy
for
for
some
to
put
money
towards
towards
the
roads
also
and
we'll
bring
that
to
council
on
tina's
been
doing
a
great
job.
O
O
It
was
brought
up
by
some
of
the
citizens
and
it
was
brought
up
today
about
the
stop
sign
on
maple
and
chapel
yeah,
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
before
the
meeting
was
over
abraham
already
tracked
down
the
the
last
study
that
was
done
and
unfortunately
it
doesn't
call
for
a
stop
sign
there.
But
it
didn't
stop
abraham
and
mark
they've
been
working
on
this
and
they're.
O
G
So
I
guess
basically
that's
just
saying
every
once
in
a
while
talk
about
why
we're
continuing
it
during
an
emergency,
and
this
law
will
sunset
on
january
1st
2024.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
What
I
gather
from
this
is
that
we
can
continue
to
do
hybrid
meetings.
The
way
we've
been
doing
it
and
that's
all.
G
Integrated
waste
management
is
back
again
to
share
our
updates
on
these
sustainable
food.
Ware
ordinance
updates
will
include
the
initial
business
focus
group,
outreach
that
we've
completed
to
date
and
some
potential
next
steps
for
your
consideration.
Before
we
begin
and
just
to
share
some
relevant
information
for
this
presentation,
we
did
coordinate
a.
G
This
past
weekend,
with
over
50
volunteers
and
many
community
partners,
I'd
say
more
than
50
percent
of
what
I
saw
our
volunteers
cleaning
up
from
our
streets,
our
parks,
our
riverbeds
were
single-use
plastics,
plastic
cups,
plastic,
straws,
plastic
bags,
condiment
packets.
I
encourage
each
of
you
on
your
next
walk
or
your
drive
around.
G
F
F
H
H
So
in
my
last
presentation
I
shared
more
on
the
harmful
impacts
that
single-use
plastics
have
not
only
on
the
environment
and
our
wildlife,
but
also
our
own
health.
I
then
talked
about
some
of
the
many
benefits
of
adopting
a
plastic
reduction
policy
in
hollister,
one
of
them
being
carving
the
way
towards
meeting
some
of
the
2040
general
plan
goals,
such
as
becoming
carbon
neutral
and
meeting
zero
waste
goals.
I
also
talked
about
different
ordinance
examples
and
actions
being
taken
by
surrounding
cities
such
as
watsonville
monterey,
san
juan
batista
and
a
couple
more.
H
H
H
So,
to
give
to
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
each
of
the
phases
phase,
one
would
require
businesses
to
provide
paper
bags
made
of
at
least
40
recycled
material.
There
would
be
a
mandatory
bag
fee.
This
is
only
to
compensate
for
the
extra
cost
of
the
paper
bags,
as
well
as
to
encourage
the
public
to
bring
their
own
reusable
bags.
We
would
also
be
banning
single-use
plastic
bags
in
phase
two.
We
would
be
banning
plastic
cups
and
require
businesses
to
use
approved,
compostable
cups.
H
Only
we
would
be
banning
plastic
straws,
with
the
exception
of
having
them
available
for
people
with
disabilities.
We
would
allow
composable
straws,
but
only
upon
request,
similar
to
phase
one.
There
would
be
a
cup
fee,
but
only
to
cover
the
cost
for
the
extra
compost
for
the
extra
cost
of
the
compostable
cups,
as
well
as
to
encourage
people
to
bring
their
own
cups
from
home
in
phase
three.
H
The
final
phase,
businesses
would
be
required
to
serve
all
customers
dining
in
on
reusable
plates,
and
all
other
utensils
would
have
to
be
reusable
as
well
to
go
food
service
to
go
for
food
service,
where
it
must
be
compostable
to
go
utensils
and
condiments
napkins.
All
that
sort
of
stuff
would
only
be
provided
to
to
go
orders
upon
request
and
for
each
phase
there
would
be
some
time
in
between
so
for
phase
one
it
would
be.
H
Businesses
would
have
to
be
in
compliance
six
months
after
the
ordinance
is
initially
adopted
six
months
after
that
they
would
have
to
be
compliant
with
phase
two.
So
that's
a
total
of
a
year
and
after
phase
two
they
would
have
another
year
to
be
compliant
with
phase
three,
so
in
total,
businesses
have
two
years
to
be
fully
compliant
with
the
ordinance.
H
H
We
were
able
to
talk
to
both
small
local
businesses,
as
well
as
corporate
larger
businesses.
We
also
tried
to
make
it
a
point
to
speak
to
english
and
spanish
businesses.
We
were
able
to
get
about
half
and
half
I'd,
say,
and
I
want
to
share
some
of
the
results.
So
one
of
the
questions
we
had
was
as
a
business.
How
important
is
it
to
reduce
your
environmental
impact?
H
Another
question
we
had
was:
do
you
have
any
concerns
about
reducing
single-use
plastic
in
your
businesses,
such
as
carryout
bags,
cups
containers
and
utensils?
For
this
we
wanted
to
ask
to
see
what
the
main
concerns
are
and
to
start
prepping
for
how
we
can
overcome
these
concerns.
Two
of
the
main
responses
we
got
were
lack
of,
affordable
alternatives
and
customer
satisfaction.
H
The
runner-up
answer
to
our
surprise,
was
no
concerns
at
all.
Another
question
we
had
was:
how
would
you
rate
your
knowledge
on
bpi
certified
compostable
products?
We
wanted
to
ask
this
question
to
see
how
much
education
we
should
be
doing
with
our
businesses
and
just
letting
them
know
what
other
products
are
out
there
that
are
more
environmentally
friendly
per
results.
We
can
see
that
only
10
percent
had
a
pretty
good
understanding.
Everybody
else
had
heard
of
it
or
not,
really
known
much
about
it
or
having
not
heard
about
it
at
all
before
the
survey.
H
The
final
question
we
had
on
our
survey
was
asking
businesses
to
provide
us
with
any
final
feedback
they
have,
and
I
want
to
share
some
of
the
quotes,
so
one
of
them
is.
It
is
difficult
to
get
a
hold
of
products
that
are
environmentally
friendly,
there's
a
shortage
of
everything,
so
it
can
get
expensive.
H
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
that
in
the
survey
we
asked
businesses
what
vendors
they're
using
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
work
with
these
vendors
to
have
them,
provide
appropriate
products
and
also
let
them
know
what
other
vendors
are
out
there.
One
business
told
us
that
he
has
tried
to
contact
vendors
that
pass
through
hollister
with
appropriate
products,
but
aren't
willing
to
stop
in
hollister,
so
just
working
with
those
vendors
and
letting
them
know
that
these
changes
are
happening
and
that
it's
important
that
they're
willing
to
work
with
our
local
businesses.
H
Another
quote
we
had
was
environmental
changes
are
important
for
businesses,
but
they
are
not
a
priority
right
now.
Businesses
are
focused
on
staying
open.
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
these
changes
aren't
going
to
happen
overnight.
We
did
the
phase
approach
to
help
ease
businesses
into
this,
and
we
also
want
to
provide
them
with
as
much
support
along
the
way.
H
The
last
quote
I
want
to
share
with
you
guys
was:
how
are
these
changes
going
to
be
incentivized
for
businesses?
What
assistance
is
going
to
be
offered?
So
again,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
we
really
want
to
focus
on
supporting
businesses
throughout
the
way
and
developing
resources
to
help
them
get
through
this,
especially
like
something
like
providing
a
list
of
appropriate
vendors
and
other
resources
as
well.
H
So,
along
with
the
survey,
we
also
have
done
a
couple
other
things
we
met
with
the
city
of
watsonville
to
discuss
their
ordinance
and
how
they've
gone
about
it.
We
met
with
rethink
disposable,
they're,
an
organization
that
work
with
businesses
to
help
them
switch
from
sorry
from
single-use
items
to
fully
reusable
items,
and
we
were
able
to
talk
about
some
of
their
tactics
and
hopefully
implement
them
here.
H
So
moving
forward,
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
talk
to
businesses,
citywide
and
potentially
even
the
public,
to
see
how
they
would
feel
about
these
changes.
We
want
to
develop
and
obtain
additional
tools
for
business
support
and
we
hope
that
iwm
can
draft
an
ordinance
as
well
as
draft
an
implementation
plan
for
the
city's
consideration,
and
that's
all
I
have
for
today.
P
Thank
you
mayor.
I
wholeheartedly
support
what
you're
proposing
conceptually
I
did
hear.
You
say
that
you
had
20
people
respond
to
your
your
survey
and-
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
good
start,
but
I
would
like
to
see-
maybe
you
guys
work
with
the
hollister
downtown
association,
the
san
benito
chamber
of
commerce
and
maybe
reach
out
to
some
of
the
larger
entities
like
the
united
grocers
association.
Because,
again
I
understand
the
businesses
challenges
and
and
a
big
part
of
it.
P
I
guess-
and
I'm
encouraged
by
you've
said
it
at
least
a
few
times:
public
education
and
business
education,
because
you
know
at
some
point
we
need
to
get
there,
but
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
much
community
participation
to
ensure
they
have
an
opportunity
to
express
their
thoughts
and
feelings,
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
too,
that
I
heard
you
say
that
this
isn't
something
that
needs
to
happen
immediately.
There'd
be
a
phased
approach
to
it
and
I
very
much
agree
with
what
you've
said
in
that
regard.
P
D
Sure
yeah,
I
I
know
that
when
I
go
to
a
restaurant
one
of
the
things
I
look
for
that's
I
don't
know
just
the
weird
thing
about
me.
I
look
to
see
if
they
have
a
good
napkin.
Is
it
recyclable?
That's
I
don't
know
and
straws
you
know
it's
are
they
recycled?
Is
this
a
recycling
business
and
if
they
are,
I
I
it
just
makes
me
feel
better
about
where
I'm
eating
and
but
so
it's
with
your
program.
D
You
know
it's
with
the
vendors
having
some
issues
with
them,
stopping
here
in
town,
once
they
get
more
customers,
oh
they're,
going
to
be
cutting
they're,
going
to
be
knocking
down
the
doors.
They're
gonna
be
bugging
them.
It's
like
it's
like
that.
The
robo
call
you
know
about
the
auto
warranty,
they're
gonna
be
calling
all
the
time
so
yeah,
there's
the
more
you
roll
this
out.
The
more
companies
are
gonna
come
after
us
after
this
community,
so
good
job.
A
H
H
A
Well,
as
I
pointed
out
to
you
before,
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
alternate
resources
for
the
businesses,
so
they
have
something
that's
affordable,
so
they
can
do
it
right
and
I
I
think
most
people
will
participate
when
they
have
the
resources
or
the
the
products
they
can
use
that
are
reliable.
You
mentioned
that
some
of
their
suppliers
don't
have
it,
but
others
do
but
don't
stop
here.
So,
let's
find
out
who
those
people
are
stop
them
find
out
if
it's
pricey
it's
fair
and
get
to
the
next
step.
A
So
I
agree
with
councilmember
burns
on
that
we
we
have
to
take
it
step
by
step.
We
need
to
make
sure
it's
fair.
We
need
more
participation
and
more
willingness
to
adopt
it.
What
we
don't
want
to
happen,
it's
just
people
complaining
about
everything
again.
It's
just
people
need
to
understand.
This
is
their
world,
it's
our
world
and
we
need
to
do
the
right
things
and
it's,
but
we
need
to
help
them,
get
there
having
the
right
information.
S
Yeah
yeah
hi:
this
is
tom
slopes.
How
are
you
all
doing?
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
lady.
I
actually
sell
raw
materials
and
chemicals
for
a
living
and
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
on
a
business
level
is
that
phthalates,
which
is
starts
with
a
p
they're
all
made
in
china,
and
they
got
taken
away
the
the
chemical
that
we
use.
Dotp
dop
doa,
all
of
those
dimp.
S
S
We
need
more
paper
than
we
do
plastic
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
have
to
transition
to
getting
back
to
washing
forks
and
spoons
that
are
metal
with
soap
and
water
like
we
used
to.
I
know
that
is
a
little
different
than
we've
lived
in
the
last,
maybe
a
year
and
a
half
or
so,
but
something
for
you
to
take
into
account,
because
the
restaurants
and
businesses
can't
keep
spending
at
this
rate
due
to
chemicals
and
raw
materials.
I
A
Does
the
council
feel
as
far
as
directions
I
heard
councilman
burns
asking
for
more
outreach
to
some
of
the
other
businesses?
I
agree,
I'd
like
to
see
make
sure
there's
products
that
are
fair
as
far
as
comparison
to
pricing.
I
think
those
are
the
first
steps
once
we
have
that,
then
we
can
have
that
conversation
with
a
lot
of
these
businesses
start
with
those
that
want
to
participate,
see
if
it's
successful
and
if
it
is,
then
we
encourage
the
others
to
move
with
that
also,
rather
than
demanding
something
change
right
up
front.
A
C
C
A
C
A
In
thank
you,
sir.
I
do
have
several
comments
on
this
that'll
go
back
to
the
conversations
through
lafco
about
making
sure
first
that
the
community
is
annexed
into
the
city.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
that
and
if
they
are
annexed
into
the
city,
that
they
also
pay
the
cfds
for
the
fire
and
police,
because
right
now
they
are
not
correct,
and
I
think
if
we
could
do
that,
then
we
could.
I
believe
we
can
work
with
them.
A
They
are
right
next
to
one
of
the
new
projects,
but
I
think
that's
the
first
step
of
making
sure
that
we
have
a
texture
and
agreement.
We
annex
we
have
the
cfds
into
it.
They
have
an
hoa
there,
so
they're
gonna
maintain
their
as
they
currently
are.
I
would
assume
correct,
correct
and
then
make
sure
that
somewhere
we're
not
holding
any
other
liability
in
there.
That's
going
to
come
back
in
and
get.
C
E
All
right,
fantastic
good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
staff,
my
name
is
carrie
wagner,
I'm
with
wallace
group,
and
I
have
been
working
for
a
long
time
with
the
city
of
hollister.
I
prepared
your
sewer
master
plan.
I
also
work
for
the
county
of
san
benito.
They
hired
a
wallace
group
to
evaluate
the
cielo
vista
wastewater
treatment
plant
back
in
march
of
this
year.
E
E
So,
as
you
know,
csa
22,
cielo
vista,
it
has
76
parcels,
it
was
established
in
1987..
The
county
provides
numerous
services
to
the
area,
which
also
include
wastewater
collection
and
treatment.
Next
slide,
wallace
group
in
march
of
2021
was
hired
to
complete
a
condition.
Assessment
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
provide
recommendations
to
the
county.
E
We
identified
significant
deficiencies
in
the
existing
wastewater
treatment
plant,
which
will
require
upgrades
in
the
near
future.
The
report
which
you
have
in
your
staff
agenda
details
out
several
deficiencies
within
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
The
facility
has
received
four
notice
of
violation
since
may
2005,
and
it's
received
45
category
1
effluent
violations
since
march
2016,
which
are
primarily
due
to
salt
into
total
suspended
solids.
E
E
Alternative
b
was
to
dem
demolish
the
existing
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
connect
to
the
city
sewer
in
2010
and
in
2018.
When
wells
group
did
your
stewart
master
plan,
we
evaluated
this
connection
as
we
knew
that
roberts
ranch
would
eventually
come
through,
and
that
was
that
provided
a
connection
point
for
cielo
vista.
E
E
We
have
subsequently
now
that
roberts
ranch
is
in
construction.
We
have
verified
that
the
easement
is
available
and
that
the
sewer
connection
from
cielo
vista
through
robbers
ranch
is
available
and
adequate,
meaning
that
we
can
flow
by
gravity
from
scala
vista
into
roberts
ranch
into
the
city's
sewer
collection
system.
E
Cielo
vista
is
within
the
sphere
of
influence,
but,
as
mr
mayor
had
identified,
it
is
not
currently
annexed
into
the
city.
The
annexing
are
for
them
to
be
served
by
the
city.
We
we
know
that
this
would
require
a
connection
fee.
The
cost
for
the
alternative
b,
including
the
city
connection
fee,
is
1.2
million
dollars
that
doesn't
include
the
cost
share
for
the
cushman
street,
which
we
would
have
to
identify
and
work
out
with
the
city
next
slide.
E
So
what
are
the
next
steps?
The
county
is
to
complete
the
cctv
inspection,
provide
the
city
with
the
inspection
report
and
discuss
with
the
city.
If
there's
our,
if
there
are
any
identified
deficiencies
that
need
to
be
addressed,
meaning
are
there
sags
in
the
line
or
offset
joints,
something
that
needs
to
spot
repairs
so
that
the
city
is
not
taking
over
a
collection
system?
That's
not
up
to
par.
E
We
would
need
to
identify
the
timing
for
the
completion
of
the
cushman
cip,
so
we
would
want
to
remodel
the
sewer
model
and
identify
when
that
cushman
cip
needs
to
be
completed.
If
it
needs
to
be
completed
as
part
of
the
upgrade,
then
we
would
want
to
move
forward
with
that
or
it
could
be
fall
in
line
still
with
the
city
cips.
P
Burns,
thank
you
mayor.
I
don't
really
have
any
questions.
Thank
you.
I
think
your
presentation
was
quite
thorough
and
I
appreciate
that
I
do
have
a
comment,
though
I
would
echo
the
mayor's
thoughts
that
were
prelude
to
the
presentation
and
and
definitely
in
my
mind.
Probably
the
very
first
thing
I
would
want
to
see
would
be
an
annexation
of
the
property,
and
so
I
I
I
could
support
it
with
the
other
factors,
but
for
me
that
would
be
the
highest
priority
in
my
mind.
Thank
you
man.
Thank
you,
sir.
Mr.
B
E
For
tonight,
yes,
that
is
that
is
correct,
as
you
know,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
known,
as
you
know,
one
of
the
wastewater
specialists
in
the
area.
So,
yes,
the
county
did
hire
wallace
group
to
evaluate
that
wastewater
treatment
plant,
and
I
am
coming
here
on
behalf
of
the
county,
knowing
that
I
do
have
a
great
understanding
of
the
city's
wastewater
collection
system,
perfect.
B
Okay,
so
thanks
for
clarifying
that
yeah,
it
sounds
like
well
oftentimes.
Just
in
my
own
opinion
honestly,
is
that
the
county,
the
county's
growth,
is,
doesn't
really
align
with
the
city's
growth
recently,
I
think
it's
starting
to
slow
down
a
little
bit
and
change,
but
they've
approved
some
very
some
sprawl
projects,
so
it
seems
like
this.
They
got
themselves
into
a
little
bit
of
a
pickle
with
this.
One
is
what
I'm
understanding,
but
I
too
would
support
it
if
they
were
to
follow
the
recommendations
by
the
the
previous
two
speakers.
A
A
E
Yeah,
that
would
actually
be
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
said
in
the
next
steps
is
we
would
want
to
re-evaluate
the
cushman
upgrade.
I
have
not
re-evaluated
that
line
in
the
sewer
model
to
evaluate
whether
or
not
the
cielo
vista
flow
would
trigger
that
upgrade
or
additional
future
flow
from
when
we
originally
back
in
2010.
E
After
the
sewer
master
plan
was
completed,
that
was
a
ridgemark
went
in
a
different
direction
and
they
upgraded
their
own
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
so
that
option
actually
got
taken
off
of
the
table.
So
the
cushman
upgrade
has
stayed
on
there
as
a
pipeline
to
watch,
but
it
was
not.
It's
not
been
a
requirement
and
it
would
need
to
be
reevaluated
if
the
future
development
was
identified
and
brought
into
you
know
brought
forward.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
want
to
do
is
is
reevaluate.
Your
wastewater
flows
re-evaluate
the
flows
that
would
come
from
cielo
vista,
any
other
development
that
you
know,
roberts
ranch
the
the
developments
that
have
been
approved
in
the
area
and
just
make
sure
that
to
see,
if
whether
or
not
that
15
inch
line
can
maintain
capacity
at
the
current
city
standards
or
if
we
would
want
to
propose
to
upgrade
it
to
18
inch,
which
is
the
next
size
up
and
then
that
would
provide
additional
capacity
as
needed.
E
A
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we,
if
we're
going
to
do
it.
We
do
it
right
one
time,
one
time
only
there
are
currently,
as
you
know,
doing
a
project
right
there
on
cushman
and
the
street
is,
I
think,
they've
cut
into
the
street
to
do
some
other
utilities.
So
if
that
were
to
be
done,
it
should
be
done
soon
and
also
I
want
to
make
sure
that
your
numbers,
you
know,
I
think
you
said
1.5
million
1.2.
E
D
D
E
N
N
You
have
two
options,
one
and
two,
and
obviously
the
1.2
is
the
better
option
of
the
two,
and
this
is
money
that's
going
to
be
paid
by
the
csa.
It's
not
something
that
I
want
to
confirm
that
it's
not
money,
that's
going
to
be
paid
by
the
city
or
the
county.
This
is
something
that's
being
incurred
by
the
development,
the
housing
out
there.
That's
there
also.
N
Are
you
stating
that
tonight
you
would
not
approve
any
of
this
unless
you
amended
to
say
that
there's
a
you're
going
to
have
to
have
them
come
into
the
city
and
I'm
tired.
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
even
think
of
the
word
right
now,
I'm
annexed
into
the
city,
I
mean
that's
not
part
of
what
the
the
conversation
is
today.
Is
that
something-
and
it
can't
be
done
today-
you've
got
to
go
back
to
them.
N
So
today,
obviously
is
important
without
having
to
delay
any
further
is
to
go
ahead
and
approve,
and
I
would
approve
option
two
again:
I
set
the
1.2
million
over
the
5
million
and
just
to
confirm
the
speaker
if
she,
if
the
council
can
ask
her
to
confirm
to
verify
or
clarify
to
the
the
audience,
that's
listening
that
the
money
is
not
going
to
be
coming
from
the
city
or
the
county.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
S
Yes,
just
speaking
to
the
woman
before
last
for
waste
management,
the
the
waste
management.
Where
are
we
what's
the
pipeline
that
we're
using
right
now?
Is
it
polyvinyl
chlorate,
which
is
a
chloride
process?
So
it's
pvc
right
pipe
or
is
it
steel
and
galvanized,
I'm
not
sure,
but
if
we're
running
pvc
that
also
jumped
five
times
in
the
last
two
months,
and
so
it's
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money
to
maintain
just
a
question
for
her
and
I'll
leave
that
there.
A
Thank
you,
I
think,
obviously,
the
new
construction
of
using
the
new
plastic
pipe
down
the
line,
it's
a
whole
different
story,
so,
yes,
costs
have
increased
and
part
of
what
we
were
talking
about
is
making
sure
we
have
the
correct
cost
by
the
time
it
gets
to
the
point
of
us
making
a
decision.
This
is
not
to
make
a
decision
tonight,
it's
about
giving
guidance.
I
think
what
we
heard
here
tonight
first
step
is
making
sure
annexation
can
happen
first
and
then
with
that
would
be
the
cfds
for
the
police
fire.
A
They
have
their
own
hoa
and
make
sure
there's
no
other
fees
that
the
city
would
acquire
because
of
the
csas
that
are
currently
out
there,
making
sure
that's
only
for
the
sewer
treatment
currently.
So
those
are
these
financial
things
we
need
to
look
at
so
make
sure
we're
covered
and
then
again,
with
the
current
rates
that
will
be
updated
very
soon,
that'd
be
correct,
sir
correct.
A
E
P
F
P
Looking
to
go
with
a
a
reputable
flag
company-
and
hopefully
I
can
get
one
soon
enough,
but
if
not
it
sounds
like
the
fire
department's
got
my
back
to
have
one
in
time
for
october.
I
know
it's
a
quick
turnaround
and
I'm
again
I'm
prepared
to
donate
that
flag
to
the
city,
knowing
that
this
will
be
a
annual
recommendation
in
request
before
council
for
the
month
of
october.
I
think
it's
the
appropriate
month,
and
so
I
would
hope
my
colleagues
would
support
me
in
this
request.
Thank
you
mayor.
B
P
The
one
I'd
propose
to
buy
is
actually
it's
produced
by
a
reputable
flag,
manufacturer
called
gettysburg,
and
I
was
looking
at
the
one
and
it's
white
with
a
pink
ribbon,
which
is
the
tradition
as
I
understand
it,
so
that
that
would
be
my
recommendation,
but
if
others
on
council
feel
otherwise
I'm
certainly
open
to
that.
It's
more
about
the
principle,
in
my
case.
B
Okay
and
then
just
a
suggestion,
maybe
you
can
get
one
on
amazon,
that's
where
I
got
the
flags
typically,
and
they,
if
you
have
amazon,
prime,
you
can
get
it
in
a
couple
days.
So
I
think
it's
a
three
foot
by
five
foot
is
where
I
normally
get
my
flags
and
I
get
them
on
amazon,
so
you
might
want
to
look
there
because
it
delivers
in
two
days
so
yeah.
I
definitely
support
this.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward,
sir.
L
L
Also
if
this
was
proposed
under
the
old
guidelines,
then
where
are
the
hundred
signatures?
Where
is
the
image
of
the
flag?
That's
going
to
be
flown?
Where
is
all
the
paperwork
on
this?
I
just
you,
don't
even
have
a
new
policy
proposed
because
you
rescinded
your
last
policy,
which
this
falls
under,
so
you
have
no
policy
in
place.
So
how
is
this
going
to
fly
literally
and
figuratively?
L
You
already
approved
the
thin
blue
line
for
next
month.
Okay,
the
we've
already
talked
about
this.
It's
first
come
first
serve
basis.
The
thin
blue
line
was
first,
it
got
approved
it's
going
to
fly,
it
should
fly
solo
because
the
breast
cancer
awareness,
as
much
as
I
am
for
that.
Obviously
I
mean
I'm
a
woman.
It
happens
to
women
happens
to
men.
You
know
it's,
you
know
I
had.
L
I
know
I
have
friends
and
family
who
have
had
it
and
and
people
who
are
going
through
it
now
and
will
probably
die,
but
and
so
I'm
all
for
it.
But
it's
you
have
to
follow
the
process,
your
own
process
and
there
was
no
application
for
this
ever
ever.
Actually,
yes,
I
think
it's
a
great
proposal.
Of
course
it
is
it's
great
proposal,
but
you
have
to
follow
your
protocol
and
when
this
was
brought
to
our
attention,
it
was
under
your
old
guidelines.
L
So
how
do
you
plan
to
implement
this
flag
under
the
old
policy?
The
new
policy?
There
is
no
new
policy,
which
policy
is
this
gonna
fly,
it
doesn't
make
sense.
You
already
approved
the
thin
blue
line
for
next
month,
and
that
is
the
one
that's
gonna
fly,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
you
intend
to
fly
this
one.
L
It
doesn't
make
sense.
You
have
to
follow
your
policies,
you
can't
just
overstep
them
and
just
because
you
want
it
and
you
think
it's
a
good
cause.
Of
course
it
is
where
nobody's
denying
that,
but
first
come
first
serve.
There's
a
time
stem
stamp.
The
application
was
time
stamped
where's.
This
application,
where
are
the
hundred
signatures?
L
Where
is
the
image
of
the
flag?
Where
is
the
application?
Where
are
all
those
hoops
that
you
made?
Everyone
else
go
through?
Where
are
all
of
those
this?
This
is
an
already
done
deal.
The
thin
blue
line
is
flying
next
month.
You
should
not
be
flying
this
on
the
same
pole,
because
there's
no
application
that
was
involved
in
this
one
so
think
about
it.
Thank.
L
S
The
officers
that
serve
our
community
deserve
respect,
and
it's
too
long
that
they
haven't
had
respect,
and
I
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
a
really
hard
question.
Mr
mayor,
you
marched
down
black,
live
matter
down
the
street
of
hollister
and
then
immediately
declared
a
covet
19
outbreak
to
those
restaurants
and
small
businesses
that
you
helped
march.
Okay,
you
didn't
have
a
mask
on
by
the
way,
and
so
here's
the
issue
you
I
love.
S
I
lost
my
aunt
to
breast
cancer.
I've
had
my
ex-wife
mother-in-law.
She
also
had
breast
cancer,
but
you
need
to
start
holding
up
the
people
that
defend
people
from
evil
and
those
people
are
my
friends.
They
are
cops.
They
are
sheriffs,
their
dea.
They
are
doa,
they
are
great
people
just
get
it
together
and
please
please
represent
them
and
salute
the
flag.
N
N
That
october
is
also
fire
is
for
firefighters
month
as
well,
and
they
do
fundraising
with
and
sell
t-shirts
pink
t-shirts
for
breast
awareness
and
and
and
that,
so
I
I
would
not
at
this
time,
but
maybe
next
year
you
consider
also
including
the
fire
department
and
their
their
the
flag
that
they
have
with
regards
to
firefighter
awareness,
and
I
know
that
councilman
vice
mayor
resendez
was
saying
something
about
the
color.
The
color
is
pink.
N
The
purple
is
for
domestic
violence,
which
also
is
in
october,
so
maybe
sometime
next
year,
something
about
splitting
that,
and
so
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward.
I
think
yo,
I'm
sure
the
council
will
explain
to
the
speakers
with
regards
to
the
thin
blue
line
that
that
was
approved
by
you
and
that
will
take
place
next
year
and
not
in
october,
but
next
year
in
may.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
A
F
P
P
And-
and
so,
but
I
also
want
to
be
clear
that
that
poll
was
designed
for
one
or
more
flags,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
an
argument
or
a
confrontation
or
even
necessarily
a
conversation.
I
have
no.
I
have
no
sense
that
it
needs
the
the
breast
cancer
awareness
flag
needs
to
fly
above
the
thin
blue
line
flag,
I'm
absolutely
flying
with
it
flying
beneath
it
as
it's
a
secondary
request
and
recognizing
that
council
moved
tonight
to
rescind
the
flag
policy.
P
P
It's
correct,
sir
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
set
the
record
straight,
and
so
so
again
I
I'm
fine,
and
I
do
believe
that
the
the
unity
poll
has
the
ability
to
fly
more
than
one
flag
and
also
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
our
fire
chief
regarding
moving
forward
with
the
thin
red
line
flag
next
year
in
2022,
and
so
you
can
count
on
myself
or
others
in
our
community,
hopefully
bringing
this
forward,
because
I
believe,
that's
equally
as
important.
So
thank
you,
mayor
for
the
opportunity
to
comment.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
was
just
thinking.
Maybe
we
can.
It
would
be
a
nice
gesture
to
invite
law
enforcement
down
fire
department
down.
Have
them
each
hoist
up
the
flags
if
they're
willing
to
do
that,
and
then
it
can
also
kick
off
start
as
like
as
a
kickoff
for
the
campaign.
What
is
it
not
campaign?
What
is
it
the
the
fundraising
event
that
the
fire
department
does
as
well?
We
can
just
maybe
market
it
that
way
and
get
the
public
out
there.
A
A
The
way
flags
will
go
up
now
is
to
request
from
the
city
council
that
was
approved
tonight
as
far
as
since
the
old
policy
was
removed.
Going
back
to
the
blm
march,
absolutely
I
marched
proudly
in
the
blm
march
and
I
was
very
proud
of
our
entire
community
for
being
there
being
involved,
I
was
very
proud
of
our
police
department
and
how
they
handled
it
and
how
they
handle
and
they
work
with
our
community.
A
Nobody
is
perfect,
but
our
community
does
a
darn
good
job
at
coming
together
and
to
be
clear,
I
was
wearing
a
face
cover
the
only
time
a
face
cover
was
not
on
me
was
when
I
was
speaking
and
afterwards
I
did
not
declare
a
emergency
to
shut
down
the
entire
city.
It
was
actually
that
happened
before
that
point
and
again
we
worked
well
as
a
community
to
get
through
that
we're
still
fighting
it.
A
F
A
A
B
A
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
burns.
I
I
did
ask
for
decide
to
come
forward.
There
are
a
lot
of
areas
that
we
all
agree
need
to
be
beautified,
weeds
cars
and
lawns.
Just
things
that
we
all
need
to
work
together
to
make
our
city
beautiful
and
we
all
know
it
is
a
great
place
to
live.
So
I
asked
mr
burns
if
he'd
be
willing
to
work
with
me,
he
has
so
much
experience
with
code
enforcement.
A
His
knowledge
would
be
very
helpful
to
start
getting
things
done,
and
I
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
on
this
ad
hoc,
if
that's
all
right
with
the
council
to
move
forward,
and
let's
start
getting
some
of
these
things
done,
some
of
the
landscaping
done.
Parks
are
looking
much
better
and
thanks
to
our
rec
department.
So
many
good
things
are
already
starting
to
happen
and
I
can
see
within
a
year
we're
going
to
have
a
whole
different
city
here
and
we're
going
to
be
very,
very
proud
of
it.
N
So
isn't
that
just
part
of
enforcing
the
the
ordinance
to
to
clear
you
know
you
have
the
fire
department
that
takes
care
of
the
weeds
and
they
send
out
letters,
and
then
you
know,
then
you
they,
you
gotta,
go
to
court
or
you
know
charge
them
for
the
if
they
don't
do
that,
what
they're
supposed
to
do
same
thing
for
cars.
So
why
is
there
a
need
for
an
ag
hog
committee
if
something
is
already
in
place?
A
G
A
A
S
S
A
Well,
that'd
be
a
different
conversation,
sir,
because
we're
not
talking
about
the
homeless.
I
can
tell
you:
I've
been
working
for
quite
a
while
trying
to
get
solutions
for
homeless.
When
I
first
became
mayor,
there
was
a
large
homeless
problem.
That's
it
eight
years
ago,
and
I
pointed
that
out
when
many
said:
there's
no
homeless.
Here
I
said
no,
you
need
to
go
look
behind
some
bushes,
many
homeless,
here
lots
of
trash
needles
and
so
on.
Since
then,
we
now
have
a
homeless,
shelter
and
we're
moving
forward
and
helping
them.
A
As
I
mentioned
early
in
the
meeting
today,
a
lot
of
partners
in
making
that
happen.
It
just
doesn't
happen
with
one
agency.
It's
several
partners
making
the
changes
and
that's
what
we're
working
on
here
and
that's
part
of
this
beautification
plan
too,
is
making
sure
some
of
these
areas
stay
clean.
Thank
you,
sir,
is
that
the
last
speaker.
G
G
Basically,
we
adopted
a
resolution
putting
limits
on
campaign
contributions,
but
we're
seeking
direction
on
whether
you
want
to
make
an
amendment
to
the
city
code
regarding
that,
as
well
as
all
city,
council,
members
and
commissioners,
I
believe,
have
to
sign
an
acknowledgement
about
that
whole
chapter
regarding
city
council
conduct
and
we're
also
asking
if
you
would
like
candidates
to
sign
something
when
they
run
for
office.
Acknowledging
that
they've
read
that
part
of
our
city
code
and
also
this
item
is
for,
if
you
want
to
make
any
other
changes
to
that
section
of
the
city
code.
G
A
So
just
be
clear,
so
the
rules,
I
think,
this
item
it
was
not
so
much
about
campaign
finance.
That's
already
been
approved
from
the
city
side.
What
this
was
about
was
to
make
sure
candidates
running
for
office
are
following
the
same
rules
as
council
members
that
being
mutual
respect
for
each
other,
not
doing
things
that
criticizing
or
attacking
each
other
following
the
same
rules.
We're
following,
I
think
that's
what
this
was
about.
Okay
and
blending
it
together
in
one
document
is
what
was,
I
think
proposed
is.
Would
that
be
correct?.
A
A
D
D
D
Most
of
mine
were
lower
contributions
until
after
I
got
until
after
I
won,
but
the
I
don't
know
I
you
know
what
it's
I
just
don't
feel
like
it's
a
fair
process
to
to
put
a
limit
of
just
250
dollars.
I
I
like
the
transparency,
the
other
thing
I
issue
I
have-
which
I
don't
even
know
should
I
even
be
talking
about
this
now,
because
we're
just
voting
on
the
acknowledgement,
correct.
D
Was
all
together?
That's
that's
the
other
part
that
was
weird
to
me,
but
yeah.
So
I
just
I'm
just
not
comfortable
with
just
250.
I
love
the
transparency,
the
the
other
thing,
the
minimum
of
reporting
everything.
So
basically
from
my
understanding,
if
someone
gives
me
a
bottle
of
water,
I'm
gonna
have
to
record
that
because
that's
over
a
dollar,
no,
no.
D
D
F
O
D
P
P
G
Actually
going
to
be,
my
question
was:
if
I
could
get
clarification
on
what
happens,
if
they
don't
sign
it,
or
would
there
be
a
box
that
just
says
I
do
consent
to
this
or
I
do
not,
and
so
we
have
to
keep
a
record
of.
Maybe
I
do
or
do
not
consent
to
this
right,
and
I
is
that
just
kept
on
file
with
their
election
paperwork.
P
Because
during
the
election
that
I
ran
in
most
recently,
there
was
a
form
I
signed.
That
said,
I
will
comply
with
the
the
fair
political
practices
and-
and
I
will
play
nicely
and
I
chose
to
sign
it
because
that's
what
I
wanted
to
do
yeah,
but
I
wasn't
required
to
sign
it,
and
it
didn't
mean
that
I
still
couldn't
run
for
election
and
and
frankly
I
don't
know
I.
I
also
think
it
then
transferred
over
to
the
san
benito
county
elections
office,
where
they
indicated
that
you
either
did
or
did
not.
P
But
there
didn't
seem
to
be
a
consequence
to
it.
Philosophically
I
agree
100
with
this
and
I
would
hope
any
candidate
will
as
well
but
and
I'm
willing
to
agree
to
this
tonight
even
for
a
philosophical
reason,
but
sometimes
I
worry
that
we
create
things
that
then
creates
a
challenge
that
there's
no
real
action.
That
can
happen
and-
and
I
don't
know-
and
and
mr
epperson-
I
don't
know-
if
you
have
a
sense
for
this-
or
if
this
is
just
more
of
a
the
philosophical
thing
that
we're
we're
discussing
here.
Well,.
F
Describing
it
as
a
philosophical
thing
is
not
is
not
an
incorrect
matter.
What
what
we
have
essentially
is
asking
the
the
candidates
to
acknowledge
that
they've
read
it
and
received
it
and
which,
if
the
council
wants
to
do
more
than
that
and
actually
put
in
some
sort
of
action
in
the
event
that
they
refuse
to
that's
something.
That's
going
to
have
to
be
done
very
carefully
and-
and
we
can
explore
that
it's
it's
not
something
that
can
just
be
thrown
out
there.
P
Thank
you
for
the
clarification
I
you
know
again.
I
think
that
I
don't
know
anybody
that
wouldn't
say
that
they've
received
it
they've
read
it
because,
just
by
receiving
and
reading
it
doesn't
necessarily
imply
that
they
agree
with
it
and
then
their
actions
will
will.
Certainly,
you
know,
be
the
evidence
that
either
they
did
or
they
didn't
agree
with
it.
But
at
that
point
it
just
feels
like
it's
a
a
philosophical
thing
to
me,
and
hopefully
you
know
future
leaders
want
to
play
nice
together
and
be
kind
through
the
process.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
you're
making,
I
think
yeah
most
start
off
their
campaigns
and
they
want
to
work
or
run
in
a
campaign.
That's
honorable,
I
think
you're
absolutely
right
to
try
to
lay
down
a
law
on
some
of
the
rules,
not
the
financial
ones,
but
some
of
the
other
rules
it's
a
little
more
difficult.
That
could
be
something
where
it's
a
censure
or
something
else
that
somebody's
running
for
office
and
coming
over
and
calling
everybody
names
and
different
things,
and
we
say
hey.
A
You
know
the
public
is
allowed
to
know
that
this
person
is
just
not
behaving
nicely.
That's
one!
One
way
to
do
it.
You
know
accenture
as
far
as
campaign
contributions
you're
the
perfect
example.
Both
of
you
are
great
examples
of
campaigns
that
were
run
without
really
outside
dollars
and
that's
what
we
want
in
a
small
community.
We
want
that
participation
locally.
We
don't
want
so
here's
a
thousand
dollars
do
me
right
later
and
not
that
it's
a
bribe,
but
it's
that's
it's
just
not
right
and
it
shouldn't
be.
A
A
That's
that's
not
right,
but
he
won
because
he
he
worked
the
streets
and
walked,
and
I
think
you
said
you
wore
out
a
pair
of
shoes
right.
We
all
did
it
and
that's
what
campaigns
should
be
about
in
our
community,
because
once
that
happens,
nobody's
gonna
come
over
and
tell
you
you
owe
them
a
favor
here.
I
don't
owe
you
anything.
I
wore
a
pair
of
shoes
to
win
this
race
and
don't
ever
tell
me
that
again,
so
that's
the
whole
purpose.
Keep
it
fair.
A
B
Thank
you.
I
I
thought
some
good
points
were
brought
up.
Councilmember
burns
said:
is
it
philosophical
like
in
a
sense
it
is
right,
but
I
do
agree
that
with
the
mayor
that
in
extreme
cases
we
have
to
have
some
type
of
enforcement,
some
type
of
regulation
right
and
that's
why
I
brought
it
up,
because
I
saw
some
things
I
was
pretty
concerned
about
and
I
think
in
our
essence,
what
we
can
do
is
only
censure
somebody
like
that's
pretty
much
it
that's
all
we
can
do
is
center.
B
Somebody,
maybe
you
know,
maybe
send
a
letter
or
complain
to
fcc.
We
can
do
that
or
you
can
do
that
on
an
individual
basis.
Anybody
could
do
that.
It's
just
like,
but
I
think
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
think
that
it
needs
to
apply
to
all
the
candidates,
not
just
us
up
here.
We
have
to
hold
them
to
that
standard
and
I
hope
that
they
would
that
they
would
follow
those
rules.
B
You
know
this
is
the
standard
we
hold
ourselves
to
and
we
hope
that
you
would
too
so
definitely
support
that
and
then
council
member,
oh
perez,
brought
up
a
good
point
about
gifts
like
the
fpcc
does
have
monetary
contributions
as
far
as
gifts
right
does
everybody
follow
that
I
mean
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know
like
I've
been
offered
like
concert
tickets
did
that
does
that
get
reported
on
your
forms
when
you
go
to
a
concert,
you
know
there's
gifts,
and
this
happened
with
other
council
members
that
I
know
didn't
get
reported.
B
You
get
tickets
to
things
you
get
invited
to
events.
You've
got
to
if
you're
really
interested.
In
my
opinion,
if
you're
really
for
the
cause-
and
you
really
want
to
support
them-
then
put
your
own
money
into
buying
a
ticket
to
go
to
that
event
or
to
that
concert,
don't
just
go
because
you're
getting
a
free,
a
free
ticket
and
if
you
are
getting
a
free
ticket,
it
needs
to
be
reported.
B
B
You
know,
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say
about
it.
I
think
you
guys
covered
it
pretty.
Well,
it
levels
the
playing
field,
it
does
give
certain
people
an
advantage
and
it
really
helps
to
lower
the
influence
of
outside
special
interests
that
have
a
financial
interest
in
the
dealings
of
our
city
council.
What
else?
What
else
is
there
to
say?
You
know?
G
G
Members
entering
office
shall
sign
a
statement
example
below
which
just
says
I
affirm
that
I
have
read
and
understand
this
section
and
then
that
council
will
periodically
review
this
and
update
it
as
necessary.
So
I
was
just
wondering:
would
council
like
to
make
an
amendment
to
that
paragraph?
There
that
says
that
candidates
running
for
office,
just
regardless
of
whether
they
win
or
not
just
need
to
sign,
saying
that
they
have
read
and
understand
it,
and
then
that's
not.
G
G
B
B
B
A
I
think
so
I
think
mr
burns
made
that
comment.
It's
I've
read
these
rules
and
if
they
choose
not
to
follow
them,
that's
yeah,
I'm
sure
their
opponent's
going
to
take
advantage
of
that
pretty
quickly
and
say
this
person
want
to
follow
the
rules
and
they're
not
in
office.
Yet
what
do
you
think
they're
going
to
do
once
they're
in
office?
So
I
think,
maybe
I
think
that's
a
good
recommendation.
A
B
G
A
B
My
recommendation
would
be
absolutely
also
I'm
sorry,
I
feel
like
I'm
just
cutting
in.
I
just
remembered
something
I
don't
know
if
the
commissioners
have
been
given
this
information,
it
needs
to
be
given
to
them.
I've
got
yeah,
it
needs
to
be
given
to
them
because
I've
got
anyway.
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
publicly,
but
it
needs
to
be
given
to
them.
Thanks.
P
I
would
actually
ask
that
the
city
clerk's
office
work
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
coin
the
appropriate
language,
knowing
what
the
direction
of
counsel
has
been
and
and
again
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
that
complicated.
It
could
be
a.
It
could
be
a
paragraph
of
several
words,
but
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
very
complicated.
Thank.
F
A
F
A
O
P
Burns
thank
you
mayor.
Well
also,
as
I
recall,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
obligated
to
do
is
under
the
form,
700
report,
gifts
and,
and
we
do
that
annually
and
if
you're
on
certain
committees
you're
required
to
do
that
as
well.
So
again,
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
need
to
recreate
the
horse
for
the
wheel
here.
I.
F
P
But
the
other
the
other
thing
again.
I
would
presume
that
when
you
come
in
to
pull
election
papers
that
there
would
be
an
admonition
by
the
city,
clerk's
staff
at
that
time-
that,
oh
incidentally,
tim
in
addition
to
the
the
conduct
ordinance,
we
also
have
a
have
a
clear
policy
as
it
relates
to
contributions
and
so
make
yourself
aware.
I
mean
when
I've
engaged
the
clerk's
office,
they've
they've
always
been
very,
very
informative
and
they
don't
rush
through
anything.
P
G
A
G
You
do
it
annually
and
then,
basically,
when
you're
doing
your
okay,
I'm
losing
my
words
yeah
the
the
campaign
contribution
disclosure
forms
while
you're
running
for
office,
I
mean
it
says
in
the
instructions
that
I
believe
you
have
to
include
gifts
if
they
have
a
monetary
value.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
gets
as
specific
as
like,
but
although
our
resolution
says
anything
over
a
dollar,
so
I
suppose
I
mean
if
you
did
get
a
bottle
of
water,
that
retail
was
a
dollar
I
mean
I
don't
know,
but
you.
C
Q
A
A
F
Mr
mayor,
I'll
be
honest,
I
want
to
be
careful
what
I'm
saying,
because
of
course
I
don't
want
to.
I
can't
give
legal
advice
in
in
open
session.
Let
me
say
that
if
and
when
that
situation
arises,
we
can
address
it
that
way,
but
clearly
that's
not
the
type
of
situation.
If
you're
thirsty
and
someone
hands
you
some
water,
I
don't
think
anyone
anticipated
that
being
the
type
of
situation
where
you
suddenly
have
to
write
down
and
report
it.
You.
G
N
Thank
you
I'll
make
it
quick.
So
I
know
you
guys
want
to
go
home
with
regards
to
the
one
dollar
contribution.
That's
kind
of
that.
That
is
that's
really
silly.
I'm
going
to
use
an
example.
If
you
have
a
contribution
of
99
and
under
you,
don't
have
to
know
who
the
person
is.
But
now,
when
you
have
someone
that's
going
to
contribute
a
dollar
and
it
happens
to
be
a
city
employee
and
it
happens
to
be
donated
to
your
opponent.
N
Now
you
got
a
problem
because
that
has
happened
when
an
employee,
a
city,
employee,
has
had
a
campaign
lawn
sign
and
the
and
now
you
know
that
that
employee
had
your
opponent's
law
signed,
and
that
has
happened.
So
I
really
really
think
you
need
to
reconsider
that.
Also,
I
can
see
myself,
and
I
think
you
guys
can
agree
with
me-
is
that
I
can
write
and
I
would
write
a
hundred
checks
for
a
dollar
each,
and
that
would
be
a
lot
of
work
for
the
city
clerk
to
have
to
input
all
that
information.
N
N
S
S
A
S
S
A
A
S
S
A
You
I'll
go
back
and
miss
salinas
had
a
question
about
independent
expenditure
committees.
We
did
address
that
in
the
way
that,
in
the
future
or
now
independent
expenditure
committees
have
to
report
their
top
10
donors
for
that
campaign
to
make
it
more
clear
on
who
is
really
supporting
them.
I
think
independent
expenditure
committees
are
one
of
the
worst
things
we
could
have.
A
Unfortunately,
at
this
point,
the
supreme
court
still
views
them
as
a
as
a
person
which
is
wrong,
but
I
think
if
a
candidate
is
relying
on
independent
expenditures,
that
should
be
the
first
candidate
you
write
off
as
a
person.
That's
not
ready
for
this
job.
As
far
as
the
other
gentleman's
comment
about
do,
I
do
solar
yeah.
I
do
solar,
I
do
electrical.
I
do
a
banquet
facility
and
the
only
thing
I
do
here
in
town
is
my
banquet
facility.
A
Solar
is
one
of
the
things
my
clients
have
on
some
of
the
projects
we
do
all
throughout
the
bay
area
throughout
the
state,
and
it's
not
the
misinformation,
unfortunately,
that
people
like
to
spread
in
our
community
and
we
definitely
do
not
get
paid
80
000
a
year.
Absolutely
false
we're
305,
I'm
upset
I've.
I've
get
500
years.
A
A
B
I've
got
it
yeah.
I've
got
what
I'm
gonna
say
to
cover.
Okay,
your
request,
so,
if
my
colleagues
would
be
so
would
be
support
me
in
this,
I
would
like
to
adjourn
the
meeting
in
memory
of
sai
l
nunez,
who
lost
his
battle
a
couple
days
ago
to
kobet
19,
as
well
as
all
of
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
hollister
that
have
lost
their
battle
to
cope
at
19.