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From YouTube: Gov Hol CC 20210322 Special
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Hollister City Council Special Meeting March 22, 2021
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The
quantity
is
a
bit
unknown
at
this
point,
it'll
probably
be
around
3
000
dry
tons,
and
they
will
continue
to
have
to
maintain
and
remove
sludge
over
the
years
to
maintain
the
proper
water
cap
and
maintain
proper
treatment
process.
That
is
spelled
out
in
their
waste
discharge
order,
which
is
going
to
be
between
now.
San
benito
foods
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
The
city
of
hollister
will
no
longer
be
the
bearer
of
the
waste
discharge
order
and
and
really
does
not
need
to
worry
about
that.
G
You
know
issue
as
part
of
the
lease
agreement.
The
lease
agreement
clearly
spells
out
that
san
benito
food
is
on
the
hook
for
all
violations:
water
quality,
air
quality.
They
will
have
to
continue
to
work
with
the
regional
board
to
make
sure
that
sure
that
they
are
in
full
compliance,
and
that
includes
sludge
removal,
so
holding
them
to
a
full.
An
actual
value
is
really
not
required.
G
The
last
component
in
the
lease
agreement
that
really
holds
the
city
safe,
is
that
there
is
a
clause
in
there
that
says.
Essentially,
if,
if
san
benito
foods
were
to
ever
leave,
the
city
terminate
the
lease
agreement
vacate
their
rule
whatever
it
might
be,
they
are
on
the
hook
for
all
full
sludge
removal
out
of
pond
one,
and
so
they
cannot
leave
that
they
cannot
leave
the
city
holding
the
bag
of
any
sludge
in
that
pond
this
year
or
in
the
years
to
come.
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A
Any
other
questions
from
council
miss
wagner.
I
have
some
questions
here
now.
I
understood
that
they
can't
remove
50
from
the
from
pond
one
in
time
for
the
canning
season.
How
much
can
they
remove
the
reason
I'm
asking
for
the
sludge?
Removal
is
because
this
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
for
years
and
it's
as
you
know,
there's
a
cap
over
that,
but
once
it
hits
we
start
experiencing
the
odors.
A
A
It's
going
to
be
a
struggle
to
remove
that
sludge
later.
So
you
know
it's
being
fair
here,
give
them
more
time,
but
I
I
do
want
to
see
sludge
being
removed.
I
don't
want
it
to
be
another
situation
where
the
cap
is
only
two
feet
or
three
feet
again
and
we
start
having
the
owners.
This
is.
This
is
all
about
prevention.
To
make
sure
we
never
experience
what
we
been
experiencing
over
the
last
decade
or
two.
G
Absolutely
I
understand
in
terms
of
actual
quantities
being
able
to
remove
in
time
I
would
say,
probably
the
maximum
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
remove
before
the
canning
season
is
going
to
be
around
the
3
000
dry
tons
realm,
which
is
what
they've
been
anticipating
removing
this
year,
that
that
is
what
they're,
anticipating
removing.
So
I
completely
understand
your
concern
and
you're
in
in
rightfully
so
you
you
have
you
deserve
to
have
that.
Concern.
G
Do
note
that
san
benito
foods
also
has
the
concern
for
odor
control.
You
know
they.
They
have
that,
first
and
foremost,
as
is
the
priority
for
them.
I,
and
I
know
that
that
hasn't
been
the
case
in
the
past.
I
have
seen
them
work
very
hard
over
the
last
few
months
really
coming
to
help.
You
know
to
negotiate
with
the
city
and
come
to
terms
in
making
sure
that
this
lease
agreement
is
suitable
for
both
san
benito
foods
and
the
city.
G
G
A
G
Substantially
more
sludge,
sludge,
judging,
which
is
what
we
call
it-
is
very
challenging
to
estimate
wallace
group
estimated
at
around
12
000
dry
tons
senegro,
who
is
out
there
doing
pawn.
Two
right
now
has
estimated
upwards
of
eighteen
thousand
dry
tons.
I
would
suspect
that
we're
probably
gonna
be
in
the
fifteen
thousand
dry
tons
realm,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
it
there
is
sufficient
capacity
in
that
pond
to
meet
the
the
treatment
needs
for
san
benito
foods.
G
It
also
comes
from
the
operations
of
the
the
treatment
plant
when
it
starts
getting
up
and
going
for
the
canning
season,
ensuring
that
they
have
plenty
of
aeration
going
that
they've
they've
started
the
process
and
and
planted
the
seeds
properly
in
the
in
their
in
the
pond.
One
and
those
are
all
going
to
be
operationally.
G
You
know
determined
in
the
operations
and
maintenance
manual.
That's
going
to
be
prepared
here
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
so
just
like
the
city
of
hollister
over
the
last
two
years
has
been
very
forth
coming
in
making
sure
that
all
the
aerators
are
working.
Salmonella.
San
benito
foods
will
be
doing
the
same
process
to
ensure
that
that
odors
do
not
become
an
issue
in
pond
one,
regardless
of
the
sludge
quantity.
That's
there.
G
For
many
reasons
is
that
pond
one
receives
storm
water,
and
so
this
the
ponds
right
now
have
to
be
inadvertently
lowered
so
that
there
is
plenty
of
capacity
for
storm
water
to
come
in
as
they
they
start.
As
san
benito
food
starts
to
ramp
up
the
facility,
they
will
start
adding
water
to
the
ponds
which
will
increase
the
water
cap
from
where
it
is
right.
Now.
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G
That
part,
I'm
advising
that
the
city
not
dictate
to
san
benito
foods,
the
quantity
it
just
because
it
it
it's
not
really
required
again.
The
city
is
not
really
needing
to
get
involved
in
the
waste
discharge
requirements.
That's
between
san
benito
foods
and
this
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
A
I
understand
that
part
of
it,
but
again
we
have
sludge
that
eventually
needs
to
be
removed.
What
is
a
fair
amount
to
be
removed
every
year
until
we
get
rid
of
this,
bring
that
back
down
to
nothing
in
the
ponds
I
mean
I,
I
understand
it's
never
going
to
be
zero.
I
get
that,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
keep
moving
towards
removing
that
sludge
year
after
year
after
year,
rather
than
waiting
for
it
to
build
up
again.
A
You
know
I
can
remember
these
stories
right
when
this
first
started
with
me
my
first
year
dealing
with
it-
and
you
know,
we
found
that
sludge
level
was
higher
than
what
they
realized.
It
was
the
storm
drains
weren't
being
cleaned
properly
and
it
all
these
pieces
together
created
that
first
stink
bomb
that
we
got
to
experience.
I'd
that
I
got
to
experience
and
it
was
prevention,
preventative
things
like
removing
sludge
and
properly
clean
the
storm
drains
that
took
that
away
for
a
year
or
two,
but
the
minute
we
took
our
eyes
off
of
it.
A
It
started
happening
again
and
nobody
wanted
to
take
responsibility
so,
rather
than
be
reactive,
how
do
we
stay
proactive
with
this?
So
we
have
a
number
every
year
until
that
thing
is
down
to
as
low
as
possible.
I
I
don't
think
it's
a
wise
move
to
just
say
we'll
move
3
000
out
this
year
and
then
we'll
worry
about
it.
When
the
time
comes,
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
staying
proactive
on
this
thing.
G
A
Yeah,
I
I
definitely
want
to
hear
him
put
the
many
partners
here
working
together.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
the
problems
here,
but
never
I
don't
think
anyone
wants
to
face
these
problems
again
and
we
know
how
it
happens
every
year.
So
let's
be
proactive
on
this.
What
is
your
ability
per
year.
H
Thank
you
brett,
mr
mayor
council.
Members
again,
thank
you,
as
kerry
mentioned,
for
competing
on
this
issue,
the
on
the
lease
agreement
we
have
discussed,
and
we
understand
that
yeah
sludge
removal
is
a
requirement
to
maintain
the
operational
capacity
of
that
pond.
We
have
not
moved
forward
as
far
as
we
want
to
remove
this
amount
every
year,
because
again,
we
feel
that's
really
dictated
certainly
by
our
permit.
That'll
be
coming
with
the
water
board
and
we
certainly,
as
you
do
not
want
any
issues
with
odor
in
regards
to
this.
H
A
Sir,
well,
we
have
a
five-year
contract,
we're
talking
about
here
with
you
and
how
do
we
again
being
reasonable
working
with
you
as
partners?
How
do
we
get
to
a
point
and
carry
me
you
can
jump
in
any
time.
Also
that,
let's
just
say
this
goes
for
five
years
and
you
decide
at
five
years
six
years
you
you're
no
longer
interested
in
using
the
facility
and
we're
gonna
have
sludge.
How
do
we
remove
that
sludge
over
the
five-year
period?
A
G
Mr
mayor,
if
I
could
just
just
add
san
benito
foods
had
requested
a
longer
contract
of
10
years
and
they
are
putting
a
substantial
amount
of
capital
outlay
into
upgrades
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
as
well
as
their
facility,
and
so
I
know
they
are
vested
in
the
community
invested
in
this
treatment
process
vested
in
their
business,
and
you
know
are
are
here,
but
you
know
wanting
to
be
here
for
quite
some
time
this
this
first
year
they
have
a
substantial
amount
of
capital
outlay.
That
is,
that
is
required.
A
A
We
should
have
pulled
out
more
more
of
the
sludge
and
we
should
have
done
certain
things
and
it's
always
the
oops,
but
then
we
as
a
city
have
to
go
explain
to
the
residents
that
the
oops
was
we
weren't
enforcing
things
and
we
weren't
holding
people
accountable
to
do
what
should
have
been
done.
So
I
see
mr
perez
I'll
get
to
you
in
a
second
the
question.
To
make
sure
it's
fair
is
what
what
amount
I
mean
we
need
to
have
a
consistent
program.
A
It
needs
to
be
budgeted
into
their
their
program
there
at
the
cannery
is
6
000
tons
a
year
a
fair
number,
but
I
just
really
believe
it's
important
that
we
don't
let
up
on
this
sludge
issue
because
it
will
come
back
and
it
will
get
us
again
and
again.
I
know
people
say
well,
it's
not
an
issue
until
the
air
quality
board
gets
involved,
but
that's
that's
too
late.
The
accidents
happened
already,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
number
that
we're
clear
about
and
we're
consistent
on.
So
we
move
forward.
A
E
Ahead,
mr
assendus,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
I'm
I've
got
some
questions
for
swagner,
so
I'm
hearing,
there's
no
language,
that's
actually
in
the
contract,
that's
going
to
protect
the
protect
us
or
the
constituents
from
the
odor.
That's
the
biggest
issue
is
what
I'm
hearing,
so
I'm
just
looking
at
it.
G
No,
there
there's
no
guarantee,
even
if
the
city
were
running
this,
that
there
would
be
no
odors,
but
they
are.
The
lease
agreement
is
holding
them
to
operating
the
facility
within
their
waste
discharge
requirement
which,
if
they
operate
it
properly,
with
the
proper
amount
of
aeration
the
proper
amount
of
controls,
then
there
should
not
be
any
odors,
but
unfortunately,
sometimes
you
can't
always
work
with
mother
nature.
You
know
wastewater
treatment,
plants
oftentimes,
regardless
of
everything
that
you
do.
There
may
be
an
upset
at
the
pond
and
outside
of
anybody's
control.
E
Okay,
thank
you
that
that's
pretty
clear,
but
I
think
what
as
public
officials,
what
what
I
think,
what
the
mayor
is
pointing
out
and
what
we
have
to
answer
to
is
the
first
call
that
we
get
it's
the
smell
is
the
smell.
So
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
include
some
language?
That's
going
to
protect
not
only
the
city's
interests,
but
our
constituents
that
we
can
address
it
either
proactively,
like
the
mayor,
which
would
be
ideal
right
like
we
address
it
proactively,
if
like.
E
G
Sludge
removal
does
not
guarantee
you
no
odor
again
wastewater
treatment
plants
don't
operate,
you
know
you
can
have
an
upset
a
slug,
a
slug
of
bad
wastewater
come
in
and
mother
nature.
You
know,
goes
from
90
degrees
outside
to
120
degrees
and
the
aeration
levels
can't
keep
up
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
gonna
get
the
the
pawns
gonna
burn.
E
So
then,
how
would
we
address
that
at
that
time?
Like
I,
I
completely
agree
and
I
understand
where
the
mares
coming
from
me.
I
understand
where
san
diego
foods
is
coming
from,
but
we
need
some
type
of
protection
in
there
because
now
is
the
time
to
do
it,
to
negotiate
that
and
to
protect
our
interests
and
the
constituents
interest.
E
What
type
of
clause
and
what
kind
of
protection
can
we
put
in
there
to
ensure
that
if
there
is
a
problem
with
odor,
it's
very
minimal
and
it's
addressed
quickly
or
that
we
prevent
it
from
happening
at
all?
That's
my
concern
and
I
think
that's
what
the
mayor
is
saying.
We
might
not
know
all
the
like
all
the
data
and
the
scientific
facts
about
how
that
happens,
but
we
have
an
obligation
to
ensure
that
at
least
we're
proactive
about
it.
E
We
include
some
language
on
the
in
the
contract
or
if
it
does
happen,
we
cease
production
or-
and
we
address
that
immediately
because
I
do-
I
am
also
leery
of
entering
into
a
five-year
contract
without
addressing
that
that's
been
the
biggest
issue
and
that
that
I
get
complaints
as
far
as
constituents.
So
I
understand
that-
and
this
is
the
time
to
to
work
that
out.
So
if
there's
something
you
can
suggest
that
we
do
that
or
maybe
we
come
back
at
a
later
time.
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
reasonable
to
ask.
Thank
you.
E
G
You're
absolutely
correct
in
the
fact
that,
from
a
pr
perspective,
you
guys
are
going
to
be
the
first
call,
regardless
of
the
fact
that
you
guys
are
not
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
on
the
hook
for
these
violations
anymore.
So
if
there
is
an
air
quality
violation,
the
city
is
not
the
one
responsible
for
it.
San
benito
foods
will
be
the
one
who
will
have
to
report
and
respond
to
the
air
quality
board.
G
Understanding,
though,
that
that
the
pr
is
going
to
be
the
city
and
not
san
benito
foods,
but
from
a
violation
of
potential
monetary
violations,
san
benito
foods
will
be
the
one
that's
on
the
hook
again.
Sludge
removal
does
not
guarantee
or
constitute
there's
not
going
to
be
a
potential
for
for
an
odor
violation
that
comes
in
the
operations
and
that
is
going
to
be
presented
in
the
operations
and
maintenance
manual.
That
is
a
requirement
of
this
agreement.
G
E
Possibility
right,
I'm
just
saying
we
need
to
answer
to
the
constituents
now
we're
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
to
protect
their
interests
and
to
ensure
that
these
things
don't
happen
in
the
future
or
if
they
do
they're
very
limited
and
they're
addressed
quickly.
So
I
think
we're
in
a
good
position
to
do
that
and
I
think
we
need
to.
I
really
do
think
we
need
to
because
this
is
a
big
issue,
big
issue
for
them.
On
that.
D
G
D
G
D
Okay,
yeah,
I
would
just
you
know
what
I
I
I
agree
that
you
know
what
we
do,
that
there's
not
enough
time
for
you
guys
to
get
at
50.
What
I'd
like
to
see.
You
guys
still
functioning
in
hollister.
I
know
there's
limited
rules
and
and
agreements
we
can
put
in
to
control
the
mother
nature,
but
I
would
also
every
year
at
the
beginning
of
the
season,
to
find
out
what
what
levels
we're
at
and
see
how
much
progress
that's
being
done
as
far
as
the
dredging.
G
G
Otherwise
you
get
clogging
of
the
soils
and
then
soils
don't
percolate
as
as
easily,
and
so
there
are
seasons.
The
the
report,
the
report
basically
or
the
lease
agreement
basically
says
that,
after
the
canning
season,
san
benito
foods
is
responsible
for
doing
the
maintenance
on
the
perk
beds
after
the
rainy
season,
the
city
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
on
the
purpose.
G
D
G
I
don't
represent
the
san
benito
foods,
I
re
represent
the
city,
but
san
benito
foods
does
have
their
own
well
supply
on
on
site,
and
one
of
the
options
that
they're
looking
at
is
is
potentially
connecting
to
the
city.
That's
part
of
and
dawn
might
be
able
to
provide
more
information
on
there
what
they're
planning
at
their
facility.
I
only
know
exactly
what's
going
on
at
the
treatment
plant
right
now,.
D
G
Mr
mayor,
in
terms
of
quantity,
if
we
could
suggest
if,
if
that
is
something
that
you
know,
you
are
not
going
to
approve
this
lease
agreement
without
a
quantity
is
maybe
suggesting
up
to
2
000
dry
tons
per
year
to
be
removed.
I
think,
is
a
reasonable
request
for
san
benito
foods
to
remove
that
would
put
at
the
end
of
of
the
five
years
that
would
put
eleven
thousand
removed,
which
would
be
over
over
fifty
percent
of
the
pond
dry
slimes
removed.
G
They
may
end
up
looking
for
other
alternatives
to
be
able
to
remove
sludge
more
cost
effectively
over
the
next
few
years,
and
it
would
be
worthy
of
us
to
give
them
opportunity
to
find
those
less
expensive
means
of
remove
flood
removal
and
land
application
process,
but
not
tying
them
to
a
number
and
again
they're
in
this
for
the
long
haul.
They
want
this
lease
longer
than
five
years
and
so
the
the
potential
you
know,
I
think.
C
G
C
G
G
G
G
They
are
also
looking
for
alternatives,
because
that
is,
you
know,
that's
a
pretty
good
hit,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
18
000
dry
tons
at
that
cost,
and
so
they
are
looking
for
other
options
to
potentially
land
apply,
the
sludge
which
would
cost,
which
would
reduce
the
cost
of
the
sludge
removal.
And
so,
if
they're
able
to
find
other
options,
then
they
might
be
able
to
remove
more.
At
a
you
know,
a
single
time.
C
G
G
C
Thank
you.
My
next
question
is
actually
for
city
manager,
miller.
Mr
miller,
do
you
know
what
was
the
cause?
The
cause
of
the
odors
in
the
past
was
attributed
to
it's
my
recollection
that
voter
has
been
a
long
going
issue,
and
I've
heard
mrs
wagner
indicate
that
it
isn't
necessarily
directly
attributable
to
sludge.
Do
we
know
what
caused
it
in
the
previous
occasions.
G
G
It
turns
and
it
and
it
produces
a
foul
odor
and
so
the
last
two
years,
mike
chambliss,
oversaw
the
operations
and
ensured
that
violia
was
running
all
of
the
aerators
ahead
of
schedule
and
increased
the
aeration
within
the
pawns,
so
that
there
was
sufficient
error
to
to
ensure
that
the
odors
were
not
an
issue
and
we
have
not
had
an
odor
complaint
in
the
last
two
years.
Because
of
that
this,
this
operational
style
and
the
sludge
was
there.
C
I
Council
member
burns,
we
have
our
normal
enforcement
procedures
in
that
under
those
circumstances,
but
also
one
of
the
main
changes
between
this
proposed
lease
and
prior
releases
leases
going
back
as
far
as
I
know
decades
is
that
the
cannery
itself
would
be
holding
the
permit
with
the
waterboard
rather
than
we
would
so
they
would
be
answerable
to
them
as
well
and
ms
wagner.
If
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
That
would
be
helpful
if
you
think
I've
misdescribed
the
relationship
between
the
cannery
and
the
water
board.
G
No
you're
absolutely
spot
on
is
in
the
past,
the
agreements
between
san
benito
foods
and
the
city.
San
benito
foods
was
a
bystander
to
the
agreement
with
the
regional
board,
and
so
the
regional
board
had
no
enforcement
action
over
san
benito
foods,
and
only
the
city
could
then
charge
san
benito
foods
and
that
process
was
challenging.
G
This
leased
agreement
now
in
that
is
being
put
in
place,
is
putting
san
benito
foods
square
one
in
in
front
of
the
regional
board,
the
regional
board,
the
the
waste
discharge
requirement
for
the
operations
of
wastewater
at
the
industrial
wastewater
treatment
plant
will
no
longer
be
with
the
city.
The
city
will
have
absolutely
no
no
interaction
with
the
regional
board
when
it
comes
to
wastewater
treatment
at
this
facility.
Don't
include
the
domestic
facility
at
this
facility,
because
the
permit
will
be
held
between
san
benito
foods
and
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
G
Now
the
city
of
hollister
is
the
bystander
you
are
just
the
the
land
owner.
You
no
longer
really
care.
What's
going
on
on
the
land,
it's
their
permit,
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
held
financially
responsible.
If
there
is
a
violation,
they
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
have
to
report
on
everything
to
the
regional
board.
It
is
no
longer
in
the
city's
hands.
C
Thank
you
so,
mr
represent,
then
for
traditional
enforcement
actions.
Are
we
talking
a
lawsuit,
or
are
we
talking
code
enforcement
action
or
or
something
combined
thereof,
as
others
have
stated?
My
my
concern
is:
I
understand
that
that
the
cannery
will
will
be
forced
to
bring
their
property
and
and
and
deal
with
things
and
and
bring
it
into
compliance,
but
as
as
vice
mayor
rosendes
has
said,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
responding
to
people
that
are
going
to
be
complaining
and,
and
frankly,
I
don't
think
they
have
an
appetite
to
hear.
C
I
Far,
I
want
to
go
in
a
in
a
public
meeting
discussing
our
specific
options,
but
it
is
true
that,
on
in
the
immediate,
in
the
immediate
occurrence
of
an
odor
or
a
smell,
that's
probably
that's
this
causing
the
community
a
problem.
San
benito
foods
would
be
primarily
responsible
to
the
water,
would
be
responsible
to
the
water
board
for
fixing
that
and
making
sure
that
their
discharges
are
in
line
with
all
of
the
requirements
of
that
permit
that
they
have
with
the
water
board
rather
than
us.
C
C
C
C
E
So
much
really
quick,
historically
speaking,
there's
been
two
problems.
Number
one
is
the
odor
number
two
is
who
holds
the
permit.
It
looks
like
this
contract
is
addressing
one
of
the
two
a
question
I
had
that
council
member
burns
pointed
out
was
how
much
accumulates
each
year.
We
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
So
now
having
that
information,
if
we
were
to
put
a
number
on
to
it,
miss
wagner
like
2
000
pounds
of
dry
tons
each
year.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
necessarily
address
the
issue.
E
We
have
to
remember
that
we're
talking
about
the
smell,
not
just
the
sludge,
because
it
seems
like
we've,
had
the
same
amount
of
sludge
in
there
the
last
couple
years.
Yet
there
was
no
smell,
so
that's
something
to
take
into
consideration
and
I
think
I
don't
feel
really
comfortable
or
confident
that
it's
addressing,
I
don't
want
to
lock
into
a
five-year
lease.
Maybe
a
suggestion
would
be
that
we
shorten
the
length
of
the
lease
to
a
year
and
we
renew
it
every
year,
depending
on
what
the
what
that
looks
like
for
the
canning
season.
E
I
understand
like
it's
not
practical
to
stop.
You
know
a
million
dollar
operation,
but
we
can
come
back
in
a
year
and
and
assess
like
okay.
How
did
it
go?
Maybe
we
have
the
same
luck.
We
had
the
last
couple
years,
there's
no
smell
same
amount
of
sludge,
they're,
taking
out
a
certain
amount
of
sludge
and
they're
doing
things
to
improve
it.
Maybe
it's
not,
and
then
we
have
to
look
at.
E
You
know
revisiting
some
of
these
issues,
but
I
don't
know
if
locking
it
into
a
five-year
contract
is
a
good
idea,
because
then
we
will
potentially
end
up
in
court
for
who
knows
how
long?
But
if
we
do
one
year,
I'm
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
with
that
or
san
benito
foods
can
listen
to
our
concerns
and
come
back
with
some
solutions
as
to
how
they
can
address
those
I'm
comfortable
with
that
as
well,
but
I'm
not
comfortable
logging
into
an
agreement
with
what
I've
heard
today
for
five
years.
Thank
you.
A
F
G
G
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
few
more
questions
for
you.
I
heard
your
comment.
The
mention
that
the
cannery
seminar
foods
is
willing
to
look
at
2
000
tons
per
year
dry
tons
per
year
as
an
effort
to
keep
up
with
the
removal,
and
I
understand
I'm
looking
for
alternative
methods.
We
talked
about
that
in
the
in
the
past
about
using
bugs
and
I
think
they
might
have
found
a
a
better
source
or
they
might
be
using
for
that
which
I
understand
it.
A
A
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
getting
to
smell
those
things
and
numerous
phone
calls
from
people
when
it
goes
bad
and
it
you
know
from
my
experience
in
the
past
has
taught
me
it's
usually
a
combination
of
things,
but
it's
always
comes
back
to
oh.
I
thought
somebody
else
took
care
of
that
this
year
and
we
end
up
with
a
very
angry
community
and
really
you
know
the
failure
is
on
us
for
not
ensuring
things
were
done.
A
The
I
understand
clearly,
sludge
is
not
the
only
issue
that
creates
the
odor,
but
in
most
of
the
cases
we've
had
in
the
past,
they
were
contributing
factors
to
it,
and
I
can
remember
one
year
where
everyone
thought
it
was
fine.
They
checked
the
cap
only
to
find
out
later
that
the
sludge
had
shifted
and
that's
how
comes
part
of
that
odor.
It
happened.
The
other
contributing
factor
has
been
the
flushing
of
the
system
of
the
storm
drain
system,
and
that
is
something
the
next
question
I
have
for
you.
I
thought
I
saw
somewhere.
A
G
A
G
G
G
G
And
so
they
do
end
up
costing
what
was
the
city
or
san
benito
foods
in
the
past
they're
going
to
cost
san
benito
foods?
You
know
in
the
future
they
are
with
their
with
their
engineer.
They
are
looking
at
alternatives
for
aeration
and
that
may
be
implemented
in
years
to
come.
Those
are
long-term
operations
and
maintenance
needs
that
they
will
address
over
years
to
come
through
their
process.
Again,
those
are
things
that
you
know
and
I'm
gonna.
Please
don't
take
offense,
I
don't.
H
In
regards
to
so
carrie
excellent
job,
in
speaking
to
the
questions
and
appreciate
that,
in
regards
to
the
water
cap
depth,
there
was
questions
about
that
synagro,
the
same
agency
that
provided
us
a
a
in
a
survey
of
the
pond,
the
average
water
cap
depth
in
pond
one
right
now
is
just
over
11
feet.
Now.
There
are
certainly
areas
where
there
is
less
water
cap
and
certainly
areas
that
are
more
during
the
dredging
to
assure
that
the
baffle
curtains
are
installed
correctly.
H
H
I
understand
the
concerns
we
are
we're
committed
to
ensuring
that
we
don't
have
violations
or
odor
issues,
but
from
a
timing
perspective
we
need
access
to
the
ponds
rather
soon
to
assure
that
all
this
work
can
be
done
prior
to
the
season
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
be
done.
A
lot
of
investments
not
only
of
the
pond,
with
the
baffle
curtains,
the
dredging,
we're
making
operational
improvements
at
our
plant
to
capture
high
juice,
high
beauty,
content
juice,
the
better
filtering
systems.
A
H
So
we
we
do
really
use
a
biological
treatment.
I
can't
speak
to
how
much
is
generated
every
year.
I
wish
I
could,
but
I
can't
speak
to
that
from
a
scientific
standpoint,
but
we
do
use
a
biological
treatment
from
an
older
perspective
as
well
as
a
sludge
enzyme,
if
you
will
in
regards
to
an
amount
per
year,
as
kerry
mentioned
as
we
are
responsible
for
the
compliance
with
the
wdr,
we
understand
that
we
have
to
remove
some
to
assure
that
we
maintain
compliance.
H
A
Okay,
so
you're
you're
willing,
I'm
just
gonna,
assume
I
don't
wanna
assume
anything,
but
I'm
gonna,
take
it
as
2000
a
year
would
be
something
that
is
possible.
The
last
question
I
have
of
you:
maybe
the
city
attorney-
can
be
involved
in
this
earlier
or
last
year
there
was
a
lawsuit
brought
against
the
city.
Has
your
company
dropped
that
lawsuit?
A
I
I
A
A
I
don't
think
it
would
be
we're
going
to
go
in
there.
Basically
we're
going
to
be
partners
in
this,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
there's
a
lawsuit
over
our
head,
whether
that
should
never
have
happened,
we
should
have
been
able
to
work
together
that
lawsuit
never
should
have
taken
place,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
that
out
there.
So,
mr
carr,
would
you
go
to
speak
to
that
or
is
that
another
representative
of
your
company?
I.
A
D
D
Accumulated
every
year,
I
think
it's
to
come
up
with
saying
that
we
need
to
take
out
2
000
dry
tons,
it's
kind
of
hard.
I
mean
if
you
have
no
number
to
start
with.
How
do
you
come
up
with
a
number
so
it'd,
be?
I
don't
know
if
they
can
come
up
with
the
number,
but
if
I
mean
if,
if
they're
gonna
take
out
two
thousand
dry
tons
and
they're
putting
in
3000
then-
and
we
don't
know
how
much
they're
putting
in
so
it's
like
how
do
we?
D
D
She
said
something
about
a
yearly
analysis
and
if
we
could
put
something
in
there,
that
would
be
like
again
to
the
the
depth
of
the
sludge,
because
how
to
we
just
got
to
come
up
with.
We
can't
come
up
with
numbers
unless
we
have
a
number
to
start
with.
That's
what
that's
my
thinking,
but
for
the
five
year
I
like
san
benito,
I
really
appreciate
them
investing
into
our
community.
A
F
G
Mr
mayor,
can
I,
in
terms
of
it
being
measured
every
year,
we
would
hire
a
company
such
as
senegal
or
another
company,
and
they
go
out
and
they
do
what
they
call
sludge
judging
it's.
Basically,
they
stick
a
tube
down
into
the
sludge
and
then
they
figured
out.
You
know
they
figure
out
how
what
the
depth
is
and
then
they
run
analysis
at
a
lab
to
determine
the
density
of
the
sludge
and
so
they'll
do
that
at
various
locations
throughout
the
pond
and
and
so
forth.
A
A
Removing
sludge
is
part
of
a
should
be
an
annual
maintenance
part
of
this
situation.
Now
I've
heard
the
number
2009
I'm
all
right
was
working
with
2
000
if
they're
going
to
pull
out
3
000-
and
I
think
council
member
perez
makes
a
very
good
point
of
having
that
measurement
each
year
to
see
where
we're
at
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
we're.
We
have
11
foot
cap
right
now.
A
That
gives
me
some
confidence,
but
it's
not
just
about
for
me
not
only
about
odor,
it's
about
making
sure
we're
removing
that
sludge
out
of
those
ponds
sooner
that
resin
later.
I
remember
those
conversations
early
on
where
it
was
not
a
big
deal.
You
could
stay
there
until
it
became
a
big
deal,
so
it's
just
part
of
being
proactive.
A
So
I'm
sure
a
new
aerator
subsurface
would
help
them
financially
in
the
long
term
and
helps
us
with
odor
issues.
So
I
I
don't
think
it's.
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
clear
about
the
removing
of
the
sludge
annually
and
I
think
we
could
make
improvements
on
the
annual
report
or
the
conditions.
However,
you
want
to
put
that
that
we're
reviewing
every
year,
because
I
think
that
is
very
important.
A
I've
found
in
the
past
where
we
agreed
on
something
and
within
two
years,
every
relaxed
again,
and
then
we
had
the
problem,
roar
back
and
everybody
kind
of
re
groups
and
said
oops.
We,
as
I
said,
we
didn't
realize
the
sludge
shifted
to
another
area
and
that's
where
our
problem
came
from
or
as
we
found
starting
earlier
to
get
the
levels
and
oxygen
levels
into
the
water
or
the
bugs
working
earlier
was
very
beneficial.
A
So
all
these
little
pieces
help
us
if
we
can
have
that
clarity
going
in,
but
I
I'm
going
to
keep
insisting
on
removing
continue
to
remove
sludge.
I
think
2000
tons
is
fair
to
the
camera.
We
can
proceed
that
down
the
direction
and
the
again,
as
I
most
mentioned
earlier,
the
issue
of
the
ongoing
lawsuit.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
squared
away
we're
clear
on
that.
If
there's
an
ongoing
lawsuit,
I
don't
think
we
can
continue
as
as
partners.
So
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
council
members.
G
G
G
You
know
regulatory
authority
of
maintaining
that
facility
to
the
to
the
level
that
it
is
needed
to
meet
water
quality
objectives
and-
and
that's
and
they're,
going
to
be
required
to
do
that
in
order
to
comply
with
the
treatment
process,
because
if
there's
too
much
sludge
in
that
pond,
they
don't
have
adequate
treatment
time.
They
don't
have
adequate
time
to
to
comply.
G
A
H
The
this
is
don,
so
in
regards
to
that
question
again:
well,
one
of
the
strategies
in
compliance
with
the
wdrs
is
analyzing
our
source
water
and
we
are
creating
well
water.
There
are
various
options
which
include
potentially
substituting
with
an
amount
of
city,
water,
asr
wells
in
to
recharge
the
groundwater
with
better
water,
so
the
source
water
is
absolutely
a
an
option.
We
have
to
look
at
in
regards
to
compliance
with
the
wdr.
E
I
still
would
like
for
them
to
bring
the
manual
back
each
year
and
for
them
to
continue
operations,
whether
we
approve
the
manual
or
not
whether
it's
staff
or
us
I'm
comfortable
with
either
one
but
that'll
address
my
least
concerns,
and
then
the
last
is
a
clause
for
them
not
to
sue
us.
If
we
had
those
three
things
in
place,
then
I
would
feel
comfortable
moving
forward
with
with
it.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
council
members,
so
that
would
be
again
3
000
tons
this
year,
which
is
already
planned
and
then
2
000
per
year.
Also,
as
mr
council
member
perez
mentioned
a
detailed
analysis
of
the
level
of
the
sludge
each
year,
so
we
get
a
better
idea.
Maybe
that
will
help
us
understand
the
level
of
sludge
creating
each
year
after
the
efforts
of
season
also.
A
B
D
D
I
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
it
depends
on
if
san
benito
foods
agrees
with
these
terms
or
if
they
have
other
terms
involved
now
as
far
as
what
it
would
take
for
them,
what
their
drop
dead
deadline
is
for
them
to
get
out
there
and
actually
begin
work
on
it.
I
have
no
idea,
perhaps
ms
wagner
or
mr
carr
could
add
that
information
for
us.
G
I
would
actually
like
to
provide
some
input
on
that
san
benito
foods
was
actually
hoping
to
get
onto
the
site,
but
so
so
staff
mr
miller,
and
has
we've
we've
not
allowed
san
benito
foods
on
site
onto
the
industrial
wastewater
treatment
plant
to
start
making
any
alterations
to
the
plant.
Without
the
signing
of
this
lease
agreement,
they
are
up
against
a
huge
time
schedule.
They've
got
to
start
sludge
removal,
they've,
got
to
start
pulling
the
aerators
and
all
the
cables
and
making
corrections
and
moving
moving.
G
G
They
were
hoping
last
week,
but
with
the
lease
agreement,
changes
that
were
added
in
there
that
we
still
held
off
until
today,
tonight's
meeting-
and
so
I
I
I
understand
your
concerns-
and
I
and
obviously
you
know-
that
is
the
route
that
this
the
council
is
wishing
to
do,
and
I
understand
mr
epperson's,
you
know,
needs
to.
We've
got
to
get
these
clarifications
from
san
benito
foods
on
whether
or
not
they
agree
to
these
terms-
and
maybe
mr
carr
can
already
step
in
and
say
that
they
can.
H
H
So,
as
kerry
mentioned,
the
the
time
frame
to
get
in
there,
the
the
reconfiguration
of
pawn
one
is
very
extensive.
The
baffle
curtain
is
the
length
of
the
dredging
to
accommodate
those
baffle
curtains.
We
are
moving
every
aerator
in
the
pond
and
with
that
prior
to
dredging
and
moving
the
aerators,
we
have
to
basically
remove
the
power
cables
and
stanchions
to
get
the
aerators
out
of
the
way
to
dredge
the
pond.
I
It
can
be
done
that
way
and
I'm
not
saying
that
I'm
opposed
to
doing
it.
That
way.
However,
the
council
would
need
to
be
aware
that
there's
no
guarantee
that
that
it
would
successfully
follow
through,
in
other
words,
that
we
would
obtain
the
terms
that
that
the
council
is
expressing
that
it
wants.
If
it's
done
that
way,.
A
And
I
agree,
mr
carr,
if
you
can
talk
to
your
your
company,
I'm
sure
we
get
this
workout
rather
quickly
really
comes
down
to
your
your
company
and
city
attorney.
How
long
would
it
their
company
were
to
call
tomorrow
and
say,
yeah
we're?
Okay,
with
these
terms?
How
long
would
it
take
to
drop
that
and
get
that
ready.
A
C
A
C
I
A
A
E
Thank
you.
If
they
were
to
agree
to
the
terms
tonight,
then
I
would
say
that
we
can
do
that
because
I
wouldn't
be
hesitant,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
decide
as
far
as
protecting
the
interests
of
the
city
and
I'm
not
real
comfortable
with
that.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
answers
for
them
by
monday,
or
they
can
agree
to
the
terms
tonight
would
be
my
position.
A
A
A
D
So
just
real,
quick
so
about
allowing
them
access
to
to
the
property.
So
if
they
had
access,
I
mean
because
what
basically,
what
they're
doing
they're
investing
their
money
and
it's
like,
if
I'm
not
really
concerned
about
them,
backing
out
like
that,
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
liability
aspect
I
mean
if
there
was
personally,
I
understand
what
with
vice
mayor
rescinders
and
you
and
you,
mayors
are
talking.
D
A
H
So
the
work
in
regards
to
access
is
really
preparation
to
assure
the
dredging
could
be
completed,
timely
at
60
to
70
tons
per
day
of
dredging.
That
puts
us
out
there
an
extensive
time
frame.
The
access
would
be
for
our
our
contract
and
operation
company
to
go
in
there
and
begin
moving
on
looking
at
aerators.
So
that
is
the
scope
of
the
work
that
we
talked
about.
To
assure
that
we
can
start
the
dredging
in
a
timely
manner.
A
I
I
think
we
all
understand
it's
very
important
to
get
moving
on
this,
but
I
think
if
we
can
just
get
this
agreement
signed
and
done,
it
would
make
everyone
feel
more
comfortable.
I
know
last
year
we
had
some
issues
and
we
don't
want
to
repeat
our
experiences
from
last
year.
So
if
you
can
speak
to
your
your
company
and
as
soon
as
you
can
get
a
decision
back
the
sooner
we
can
schedule
this
meeting
special
meeting
to
to
move
forward
on
this
contract.