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Hollister City Council Special Meeting February 3, 2021
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B
So
we
are
live
as
soon
as
the
mayor
connects
in.
We
can
start.
B
B
D
D
D
E
F
G
H
H
A
H
A
D
D
Okay,
good,
so
why
don't
we
go
and
start
there
city
clerk?
If
you
can
kind
of
give
us
some
of
your
perspective
on
this
some
of
your
ideas
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
the
city
manager
and
then
through
the
city
council
members
and
go
from
there.
A
For
example,
it's
not
clear
in
our
municipal
code
that
if
that
monday
falls
on
a
holiday
that
the
city
meeting
will
fall
on
the
next
tuesday
after
the
holiday
there.
A
I
can
go
into
more
detail
on
some
of
the
inconsistencies
I
found,
but
my
suggestion
would
be
to
have
the
hollister
municipal
code
be
our
only
source
and
not
have
all
of
these
different
documents
that
we
then
have
to
check
and
double
check.
I
think
it
would
be
easier,
less
confusing
for
everyone
if
we
just
had
the
hollister
municipal
code
that
we're
working
from
and
not
having
to
look
at
the
holster
municipal
code,
check
the
policy
rules
and
procedures
and
then
see
if
we're
in
compliance
with
rosenbergs
and
then
check
to
see.
A
If
that
monday
falls
on
a
holiday
because
we
meet
the
first
and
third
mondays
of
the
month
and
our
mini
code
states
that
but
doesn't
state
what
happens
if
that
monday
is
a
holiday
at
the
council
meeting
it's
on
sec,
hollister
municipal
code,
section
2.04.020,
where
it
states
at
the
council
meeting
that
at
the
first
meet
regular
meeting
in
january,
we
will
choose
our
mayor
pro
tempore
and
our
first
meeting
in
january
has
been
cancelled.
A
A
That's
where
we
have
our
order
of
business
stated
in
the
current
hollister
municipal
code.
We
don't
even
have
public
hearings,
we
don't
have
consent
items
there
are
there
are
things
on
our
current
agenda
that
are
not
listed
here,
so
I'd
like
to
get
that
updated,
it
doesn't
have
the
successor
agency
on
there.
It
doesn't
have.
A
A
There
are
more,
but
I
and
and
one
of
the
in
the
hollister
minutes
book
code.
I
believe
it
reads,
and
I
can't
tell
you
what
section
it
is,
or
maybe
it's
in
the
rules
and
procedures
itself,
where
one
of
them
says
that
if
a
council
member
does
not
remain
silent,
that
that
is
considered
a
yes
vote
and
I
think,
or
it's
considered
a
no
vote,
but
in
the
rosenberg's
rules
of
order,
which
we've
stated
that
we
adopt
it
says
a
no.
A
silent
vote
is
a
no
vote.
A
So
there
are
things
that
I
think.
If
we're
just
working
off
of
we
can.
We
can
still
keep
rosenberg's
rules
of
orders,
but
just
put
that
in
our
hollister
municipal
code
and
make
sure
that
what
it
states
is
consistent
with.
What's
in
the
rest
of
that
code
and
I
could
go,
I
could
try
and
spend
more
time
going
through
this
a
little
bit
more
thoroughly.
But
these
are
just
things
right
off
the
top
of
my
head
that
I
can
point
out
to
you.
D
That's,
I
think,
that's
good
information.
I
think
you
can
help
us,
as
we
obviously
meet
again,
to
lay
out
some
of
those
different
areas
and
that
that's
a
interesting
part
information
as
far
as
the
rosenberg
compared
to
the
roberts
rule
keeping
quiet,
maybe
that's
something
we
could
kind
of
define
a
little
more
as
saying.
Maybe
each
council
member
should
express
their
vote
yes
or
no,
so
there's
no
confusion
for
the
public,
and
I
think
I
probably
I
would
guess
most
of
us
would
agree
with
that.
D
Just
so
we're
clear,
because-
and
I
I
can
tell
you
guys
sometimes
for
me,
especially
through
zoom
now
I
don't.
I
can't
hear
everything
it's
kind
of
tough
to
to
hear
everything
I
did
like
the
idea
or
what
you
guys
learned
at
the
retreat
or
the
conference
you
guys
are
at
as
far
as
the
roll
call
for
each
item,
at
least
during
the
zoom
times,
so
we're
clear
for
the
public
on
that,
but
I
think
again
christine.
D
F
Yeah
mark
my
issue
would
be:
is
that
as
the
city
court
brought
up,
is
this
when
you
have
these
inconsistencies
or
different
rules,
it
causes
conflicts.
So
we
would
love
here
at
the
city
to
have
less
conflicts,
so
I
would
my
request
would
be
to
go
through
and
improve
our
municipal
code
in
wherever
there's
an
exception
to
the
to
rosensberg's
rules
or
whatever
document
we
want
to
follow
to.
We
state
those
exceptions.
A
D
Okay,
mr
burns
yeah
absolutely
you're
next,
because
this
was
your
baby
here
and
we
definitely
want
to
hear
your
ideas
and
go
from
there.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
didn't
mean
to
jump
in
front,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
may
make
sense
to
create
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
work
with
city
staff
in
this
case,
specifically
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
manager,
and
and
and
bring
a
compilation
of
work
back
for
council's
review
and
consideration.
D
I
think
it
may.
That
might
be
a
good
idea.
I
think,
let's
hear
all
the
ideas
today,
and
maybe
this
is
something
we
could
work
together
on
as
a
council.
If
we
kind
of
agree
on
on
most
of
the
the
major
issues,
then
I
think
we
can
probably
do
this
as
a
council
if
we're
seeing
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done.
I
agree
with
you
that
we
you're
gonna
need
to
take
more
time
to
go
through
these.
So
let's
hear
from
everybody
and
we'll
go
through.
H
No,
I'm
I'm
I'm
prepared,
and
I
apologize
to
the
other
council
members
for
jumping
to
the
to
the
front,
but
I'm
prepared
and
willing
to
do
so.
So,
as
I
think
all
council
members
know,
I
have
a
serious
concern
about
conduct
and
ethics
and
from
my
perspective
I
I
went
and
I
pilfered
from
the
city
of
belmont.
D
H
H
This
in
essence,
is
a
code
of
conduct
and
ethics
that
I
am
located
for
the
city
of
belmont.
The
city
of
belmont
is
also
a
general
law
city,
and
so
I
pretty
much
took
and
I,
where
it
said
the
city
of
belmont.
I
changed
the
city
of
belmont
with
the
city
of
hollister
and
I
changed
the
the
one
word
I
changed
consistently
through
the
document
that
is
attached
is
the
word,
a
citizen,
and
I
I
transposed,
or
I
changed
citizen
to
resident,
and
it
just
was
a
word
that
fit
better
with
me.
H
I'm
certainly
more
than
happy
to
accept
any
friendly
amendments
to
any
of
this.
I
think
this
is
of
true
value
and-
and
certainly
I
think
it
warrants
a
close
review
to
make
sure
it
covers
everything,
but
in
reviewing
this
particular
document,
what
what
I
came
up
with
was
the
fact
that
there
were
some
other
documents
in
pre-existence
that
I
felt
could
be
eliminated,
and
so,
as
I
rummage
through
this,
I
I
personally
think
that
we
could
eliminate
the.
D
H
I,
as
I'm
as
I'm
looking
for
the
specific
documents
here,
I
I
felt
we
could
probably
pull
out
a
couple
of
them
that
are
pre-exist
and.
H
Right,
those
those
are
precisely
those
because
I
think
they're
in
into
some
degree
or
another-
they
duplicate
one
another
and
they're
contained
in
in
the
ordinance
that
I
proposed
that's
before
you
that
I've
been
speaking
about,
and
so
having
said
that.
But
I
still
think
there
may
be
some
things
in
those
documents
that
I
would
recommend
that
we
pull
out
and
and
dismiss
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
some
good
information
in
there
that
we
would
benefit
from
adding
to
an
ordinance.
And
I
I
I
support
a
hundred
percent.
H
The
city
clerk's
idea
that
the
city
municipal
code
be
the
only
source
for
the
for
whatever
it
is,
we're
gonna
put
there
and
for
a
couple
reasons,
number
one
and
it
becomes
codified
and
I
think
there's
value
to
that,
and
also
it
becomes
a
one
spot
destination
point
for
all
of
the
information
and
it's
readily
available
to
members
of
our
community
or
those
who
would
want
to
want
to
see
what
what
our
standards
are,
and
I
think,
there's
a
clear
value
to
that.
H
And
so
I
guess
again
just
in
wrapping
up.
I
would
recommend
that
we
remove
item
1b,
which
is
pages
18
and
19
on
the
lower
right
hand
corner,
and
I
would
I
would
recommend
and
that's
known
as
the
city
council
norms
and
then
I'd
recommend.
We
remove
the
item
1c,
which
are
pages
20
and
21,
which
are
the
city
of
hollister
code
of
ethics
and
values,
and
then
I
find
value
in
the
others,
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
put
it
all
in
one
area.
There's
currently
there's
clearly.
H
Information
in
this
packet
that
appears
to
already
be
in
the
city
of
hollister
municipal
code,
and
I
think
it
would
be
valuable
to
try
and
create
a
place
for
all
of
this
information
so
that
people
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
vigorously
search
to
find
it.
And
so
those
are
some
of
my
preliminary
thoughts.
Mayor.
D
Perfect,
I
I
and
I
agree
with
those
thoughts
I
think
we
do
kind
of
repeat
ourselves
over
and
over
on
some
of
these
different
documents
and
they're
not
really
clear.
Some
are
a
little
different
than
the
next,
so
that
causes
some
of
the
confusion.
City
manager
was
talking
about.
A
H
C
D
Okay,
perfect
vice
mayor
resendez:
do
you
have
any
ideas
or
things
you
wanted
to
see
changed
or
added?
Yes,.
E
Thank
you,
mr
well.
First,
first
and
foremost,
I
think
that
yeah,
it's
it's
a
little
redundant.
I
read
all
of
them
they're
conflicting.
It
feels
like
just
over
the
years.
They
might
have
been
a
little
bit
neglected
and,
and
we
just
kept
adding
to
it
and
and
it's
just
not
real
consistent,
so
I'm
definitely
for
visiting
it
and
making
sure
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
clear
and
concise.
E
I
believe
that
council
member
burns
pointed
out
to
the
documents
that
I
thought
that
we
definitely
should
be
looking
at
removing
because
they
just
go
without
saying,
for
the
most
part,
I'd
be
hesitant
to
do
that.
Today,
though,
I
would
really
like
to
see
for
us
for
us
to
come
together
in
some
type
of
form.
I
don't
know
if
it
necessarily
has
to
be
an
ad
hoc.
E
I
think
that
we
can
do
this
and
give
as
especially,
if
the
attorney's
there
and
he's
available,
to
give
us
comments
and
feedback
to
give
some
direction
to
staff
and
then
have
them
bring
back
a
document
for
us
to
finally
adopt
it
just
like
we
would
with
anything
else.
So
I
think
this
is
totally
doable
yeah.
It
just
seems
like
it's
a
little
bit
repetitive,
it's
inconsistent
and
yeah.
I'm
definitely
looking
forward
to
working
working
on
it.
Those
are
my
comments
at
this
time.
Mr
thank
you.
G
G
This
was
pretty
much
made
up
when
everyone
usually
showed
up
unless
they
were
sick.
I
think
they're
a
little
outdated
in
that
way.
So
just
go
like
we
just
like
vice
mayor
recentes,
said
the
other
night
and
and
actually
real
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
apologize.
I
wasn't
calling
him.
I
wasn't
calling
you
vice
mayor,
resendez
the
other
night,
and
I
wanted
to
apologize
and
correct
myself,
but,
as
he
was
saying
about
the
ethics,
training
and
and
and
those
other
trainings
for
the
cities.
F
G
G
With
that's
being
said,
most
of
the
meetings
that
I've
all
the
meetings
that
I
go
to
all
the
all
the
attendees
that
are
on
the
diocese
are
all
on
live
feed,
not
just
with
the
pitcher
or
a
blank
spot,
and
I
think
that's
that's
just
my
opinion.
I
would
like
to
see
everybody
be
live
it's
I
think
it's
not
just
for
me.
I
think
it's
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
see
who
we
are
since
they
elected
us.
G
Everything
else
is
pretty
much
the
same
as
far
as
trying
to
figure
out
the
discrepancies
and
the
redundancies
in
all
of
these.
That's
it
perfect.
D
Thank
you
I'll
add
a
few
things
that
I'm
seeing
that
I
think
we
need
to
address.
I
do
want
to
address
the
the
live
feed
part
first,
because
I
think
in
a
perfect
world
we
can
all
be
there.
I
know
when
I
first
started
doing
these
zooms.
I
try
to
be
live
all
the
time
and
what
I
found
happening,
because
my
kids
are
online
at
the
same
time
doing
homework
and
doing
different
things.
D
My
feed
kept
dropping
on
me,
so
I
learned
to
shut
the
video
off
somebody
pointed
if
I
took
the
video
off
it
would
stop
dropping
sure
enough.
That's
exactly
what
happened!
I
didn't
have
any
more
drops
at
that
point
because
it
it
sent
me
into
a
scramble
in
a
meeting
where
I'm
dropped
off
and
I
can't
get
back
get
back
online
and
people
are
wondering
what
happened
to
the
person.
So
when
you
got
two
kids
at
home
doing
homework
alive,
it
makes
it
kind
of
crazy
in
this
world.
D
So
we
actually
recently
changed
to
another
internet
provider,
we're
hoping
to.
We
keep
checking
the
speeds,
but
we're
not
having
much
more
success.
So
that
is
part
of
the
problem
and
it's
an
issue
hopefully
we'll
clarify
soon.
I
I
agree
with
the
comments
made
on
some
of
the
different
documents
we
currently
have
that
they're.
They
are
repetitive
and
as
the
city
clerk
pointed
out,
though
it
doesn't
mean
we
completely
eliminate.
We
just
kind
of
pick
out.
D
Information
provided
to
us
should
be
provided
in
a
public
setting
so
that
the
public
is
hearing
it
as
we're
hearing
it.
I
do
think
it's
been
a
major
problem
as
far
as
lobbyists,
not
that
anybody's
trying
to
break
the
law
or
anything
but
to
have
separate
meetings
in
convincing
council
members
to
go
along
with
their
project
by
the
time
we
get
to
a
city
council
meeting
those
that
didn't
have
the
meetings
with
lobbyists
are
surprised
by
some
of
the
information
being
presented.
D
So
no
one's
getting
any
privileged
information
before
or
later
we're
doing
this
as
a
council
as
a
city
together
and
we're
not
being
lobbied
separately
again
by
either
the
lobbyists
themselves
or
a
third
party
that
they
send
to
that
know
us
personally
in
a
better
better
way.
I
think
it's
it's
time
we
make
that
change.
It's
I
think,
it'd
be
helpful
for
our
community.
D
That
just
does
not
allow
for
that
to
happen
any
longer,
so
we
can
eliminate
those
issues
I
mentioned
earlier
in
when
we
were
talking
about
the
vice
mayor
position
that
that
should
just
be
set
in
a
rotation,
so
politics
are
completely
taken
out
of
it.
It
should
never
be
as
in
a
situation
where
three
people
decide
that
they
know
better.
It's
it's
only
fair
to
have
that
rotation.
D
We
have
a
rotation
going
now.
I
do
want
to
see
us
have
something
put
that
in
place.
So
we
know
each
year
what's
happening,
and
not
only
does
it
help
actually
at
that
point,
but
it
helps
really
truly
in
committee
selections,
because
committee
selections
are
there
some
committees
that
I
do
feel
it's
really
very
important
for
a
vice
mayor
to
be
involved
in
because
some
are
major
issues.
A
good
example
is
cog
for
an
example.
D
D
We
should
tolerate
or
encourage,
and
it's
something
that
we
as
a
council
have
to
decide
if
we're
gonna
allow
that
to
be
stopped
when
it
does
happen
in
the
past,
there
are
outbursts
and
I
could
not
stop
them
because
different
reasons,
but
I
think
we
have
to
agree
that
if
a
resident
comes
up
and
starts
attacking
council
members
so-and-so
that
it
should
be
stopped
immediately
and
they
should
just
be
recognizing
or
addressing
the
entire
council
as
one
and
not
individuals,
because
it
it
almost
became
a
a
way
for.
D
I
guess
you
would
call
electioneering
and
a
lot
of
mudslinging
started
happening
in
that
way,
and
I
don't
think
that
should
ever
happen
again,
no
matter
how
we
feel
about
each
other.
We
have
to
be
professional.
I
don't
think
we
should
ever
allow
that
to
happen
now.
That
does
not
mean
we
shouldn't
allow
residents
to
express
their
anger
at
the
city
for
different
reasons.
I
get
that
part
and
I've
always
said
they
should
always
be
able
to
come
in
and
say
how
how
disappointed
they
are
with
an
action.
D
The
city
took
that's
okay,
but
they
should
never
be
able
to
come
back
and
say,
council,
member
this
or
councilmember
this
one.
You
are
this
this
and
this
we
should
be
able
to
stop
it
and
be
unified
in
agreeing
to
not
allow
that,
so
it
doesn't
happen.
On
the
same
token,
that
goes
for
all
of
us
not
being
able,
or
we
should
never
be,
attacking
or
questioning
each
other
on
the
dais.
D
We
should
never
really
be
doing
it
in
in
public.
We
can
question
each
other's
votes.
Of
course,
that's
part
of
part
of
politics,
but
we
should
never
especially
in
front
of
the
public
having
those
arguments
at
the
dais.
We
we
respectfully
take
our
turns
express
our
views
on
the
item
and
we
we
can
move
on.
D
Now
that
we're
talking
about
rosenberg,
if
you're
silent,
that's
actually
a
no
vote
compared
to
robert's
rule,
I
think
it
just
it's
more
helpful
for
all
of
us
to
to
state
our
vote
clearly,
so
the
public
hears
it
clearly-
and
I
know
sometimes
we
got
comfortable
with
understanding
the
old
rules,
but
I
think
for
the
public
side
of
it.
We
should
be
doing
it
in
those
terms.
E
Just
want
to
let
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
if
you've
noticed
this
or
not,
but
it
looks
like
we
lost
council
member
spencer
about
a
minute
ago.
So
if
she
might
be
having
some
connection
issues
like
you
had
mentioned,
maybe
staff
can
follow
up
with
her
I'd
hate
for
her
to.
D
We'll
hold
her,
let's
hold
for
a
couple
minutes
and
see
if
she
gets
back
on,
and
these
are
exactly
what
happens.
It
might
have
been
something
that
gets
shut
off
and
I'm
gonna
recommend
to
her
that
I
shut
her
video
down
and
that
would
probably
save
her.
Her
feed.
A
Mayor
velasquez,
may
I
say
to
council
member
perez
that
I
was
just
in
a
discussion
this
morning.
A
It
was
an
international
institute
of
municipal
clerks,
so
I
had
clerks
from
all
over
the
world
and
one
of
the
well.
We
are
all
in
the
same
boat.
It's
amazing,
no
matter
where
you
are
in
the
world,
we're
all
going
through
the
same
thing,
but
bandwidth
and
losing
feed
video
feed
is
one
of
the
is
one
of
the
problems
we
have
everywhere.
It's
happening
all
over
the
world,
so
a
lot
of
them
do
choose
to
just
have
a
picture
as
you
do.
D
D
C
Well,
I
have
top
of
the
line
internet
and
I'm
only
the
only
one
in
this
house
on
the
internet.
So
it's
not
because
there's
a
bunch
of
people
on
the
internet.
It's
because
my
internet
service
is
not
happening
very
well
right
now,
because
I'm
totally,
I
have
no,
inter
I
barely
have
internet
connection
with.
I
don't
even
have
it
on
my
phone.
A
C
D
Okay,
perfect:
go
ahead,
counselor
press.
G
G
G
If,
if
the
world
or
kids
on
zoom
or
in
class
whatever
the
whole
world
just
has
to
go
through
to
get
through
these
processes,
why
shouldn't
we
tackle
those
head-on?
Also,
I
appreciate
the
information,
but
to
me
this
is
not
just
about
internet
connection,
you
know
what
sometimes
we
got
to
put
up
things,
and
so
that's
what
we
have
to
do.
That's
that's
my
thing
was
was
all
about
transparency,
and
I
think,
from
the
past
of
where
this
council
has
was
before
and
where
we're
trying
to
get
to
transparency
is
huge.
D
Council
councilmember
burns
brought
forward
the
idea
of
the
ad
hoc
for
this,
and
also
the
idea
I
think
vice
mayor
resendez
talked
about.
We
can
keep
working
together.
There
are
a
lot
of
pieces
here
still
to
go.
D
I
I
do
agree
actually
with
councilmember
burns,
because
I
can
see
all
these
little
pieces.
We
need
to
work
together
to
kind
of
place,
a
document
working
with
the
city
clerk
on
this.
How
would
you
all
feel
about
having
a
ad
hoc
committee
to
keep
working
on
these
rules?
Is
that
something
that
you
agree
on,
or
do
you
think
we
should
all
have
several
more
meetings
to
kind
of
bring
out
the
items
that
we're
each
thinking
about
and
creating
a
document
together?
It's
all
up
to
you.
D
H
Go
ahead,
mr
burns.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
absolutely
support
the
city
clerk's
recommendation
and
I
understand
mr
resendez's
feelings
and
I
and
I
align
with
those
as
well
as
yours.
The
other
thing
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
of,
I
guess,
is
that
I
don't
want
to
rush
through
this.
To
simply
have
it
done,
I
think
it
would
behoove
us
to
just
get
regular
progress
reports
from
the
city
clerk.
H
I
don't
want
her
to
feel
pressured
to
be
done
with
this,
rather
take
our
time
to
get
it
done,
and
I
also
want
to
make
sure
at
least
my
thoughts
are
that
this
isn't
only
something
that
would
represent
us
as
council
members,
but
I
would
feel
that
certainly
all
the
commissions
and
committees
would
also
be
relegated
or
I'm
sorry,
relegated
to
not
the
right
regulated
by
these
documents
as
well
and
held
accountable
and
and
held
to
the
same
degree
of
transparency
and-
and
those
are
my
thoughts
mayor.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
I'd
say
I
absolutely
agree
with
that:
it's
very
important
to
get
to
the
commissions
with
the
same
set
of
rules
any
other.
F
Council
member
burns's
comments
about
yeah.
Please
allow
the
city
court
to
have
some
time
to
work
on
this
document
when
we
do
have
other
agendas,
you
know
meetings
and
special
meetings
throughout
the
month.
So
I
do
appreciate
his
thoughts
for
the
city
court
to
to
be
able
to
have
some
time
to
do
it
correctly.
D
Okay,
how
would
you
all
feel
at
least
to
get
the
information
that
we
believe
is
useful
to
the
city
clerk,
maybe
the
next
week
and
get
so?
She
can
have
a
several
weeks
to
work
on
them,
so
we're
not
rushing
her,
but
at
least
we're
doing
our
part
to
get
her
the
information
I.
D
D
And
then
that'll
give
her
several
weeks
to
work
on
it
and
bring
it
back
and
show
us
where
we're
at.
We
can
have
another
special
meeting
or
we
can
have
a
discussion
at
the
not
the
next
meeting,
but
maybe
the
the
meeting
after
council
member
perez.
G
One
other
thing
I
wanted
to
throw
out
there
is
is
sometimes
I
feel
like
we're
being
rushed
right
through
this.
It's
like
just
right
now.
G
You
just
you
reminded
me
that
you
know
you
asked
if
everyone
was
okay
with
it,
one
person
responded
and
everyone
else
would
didn't,
have
a
chance
to
respond
and
you
moved
on
without
it,
and
I
think
that
would
because
I'm
I'm
new,
so
it's
like
I'm
trying
to
chew
on
everything
that's
going
on,
and
sometimes
the
train
leaves
too
quick
before
I
can
get
on
and
say
something
thanks
for
reminding
me,
though,
and
I
do
agree
that
you
know
what
this
is
like
a
huge
thing
for
the
city
clerk
to
be
gone
by
herself
and
do
it
quick
yeah.
G
D
H
Yes
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
by
returning
documents
to
the
city
clerk
by
next
friday.
Are
you
referring
to
friday,
the
5th
of
february
or
the
12th?
No,
the
it's.
D
The
12th,
the
good
thank
you
friday,
yeah,
no
give
it.
Everybody
have
time
to
really
sit
down.
Go
through
the
documents
pick
out
areas
that
they
like
or
things
they
want
to
add
to
it,
and
then
that
way
gives
the
city
clerk
much
more
time
to
process
it
all
and
see.
If
there's
matching
things
that
we
all
had
or
what's
going
on,
thank
you
mayor
all
right,
councilmember
spencer.
Did
you
have
any
comments.
C
Well,
I
was
just
wondering:
is
the
public
allowed
to
comment
on
anything
that
we're
talking
about
right
now.
C
Oh
okay,
no
I
I
have
to.
I
have
to
agree,
though,
with
councilman
perez.
It
does
seem
that
a
lot
of
times
you'll
ask
for
our
input
and
one
council
member
says
something
and
you
just
the
rest
of
it.
Nobody
else
gets
to
say
anything
and,
and
mr
councilman
perez
is
right.
You
know
it
seems
that
you
do
rush
us
through
things
when
you
ask
for
our
input
and
then
one
answers,
and
then
you
go
ahead
and
go
with
that
comment.
So
that's
all.
I
have
to
say.
D
D
If
I
see
somebody
that
wants
to
say
something,
I
will
absolutely
make
sure
you
have
a
say
in
it
because
I
think
that's
very
important,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
rush
through
anything
just
trying
to
get
through
what
we're
doing
here
in
a
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
to
all
of
us
and
that
all
of
us
agree.
We
can
work
together
to
to
make
something
happen
here.
A
Excuse
me,
mr
mayor
or
may
I
speak
or
something
because
it
is
hard
to
know.
I
don't
think
you
guys
have
the
raised
hand
option.
Do
you.
E
If
I
could
be
recognized
to
speak,
mr
mayor
right
sure,
thank
you.
Thank
you
christine
for
pointing
that
out.
Yes,
we
do
have
the
raised
hand
option.
I
I'm
not
trying
to
be
difficult.
I
I
want
to
be.
I
want
I
like
that.
The
meeting
is
goes
quickly
and
I
want
to
be
responsive.
So
I
try
to
follow
the
rules
of
decorum
and
to
answer
promptly
and
that's
my
reason
for
for
doing
that
and
then
second
of
all,
I
would
just.
E
I
would
like
for
people
to
remember
that
these
meetings
were
were
based
off
of
teleconferencing
as
far
as
like
the
telephone.
So
if
that
was
the
case,
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
we
have
to
be
on
video
either.
E
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
we're
all
in
a
very
unique
situation,
slash
circumstances,
everybody
doesn't
probably
even
have
internet.
I
know
some
of
my
students,
don't
we
might
have
to
call
in
if
there's
internet
problems,
we've
got
kids
and
pets,
so
I
understand
that
we've
got
to
be
safe
more
than
anything
and
communicate
effectively
and
just
remember
just
the
rules
of
decorum.
E
So
I
would
advise
everybody
to
go
back
and
read
the
rules,
understand
them
clearly
and
then
let's
follow
them,
and
we
can
start
that
by
just
waiting
to
be
recognized
to
speak.
Thank.
D
You
so
on
that,
let's,
let's
try
a
couple
things
here,
because
I
again
it's
important
to
recognize
everyone
there's
different
ways
to
do
this
on
zoom
one
is
verbally
asked
to
be
recognized
and
that's
obviously
the
the
easiest
way
to
do
that.
The
next
I,
as
I
said
before,
if
you
raise
your
hand,
I
can
see
your
hand
pretty
clearly,
but
I
do
want
to
see
if
we
can
all
get
this
raised
hand,
and
I
can
see
how
that
perfect.
D
D
G
H
Don't
have
that
word
I
have
restock.
I
have
mute,
stop
video
participants
share,
screen
record,
widen.
F
B
It
could
be
because
mr
burns
connected
via
the
registration
link,
and
then
I
promoted
him
to
panelist.
He
was
having
trouble
with
the
panelists
link,
so,
okay,
that
could
be
the
reason.
D
Okay,
perfect:
well,
we
we
do
have
three
options
here.
If
you
do
have
the
raised
hand
function,
you
can
use
that
you
can
raise
your
hand.
Obviously
I
can
see
it
on
screen
or
you
could
just
request
to
be
recognized.
All
three
work
just
wanted,
so
we
all
have
those
options
and
we're
clear
about
them
and.
A
D
G
I
can't
think
of
any
now.
If
I
do
have
anything,
we
can
just
be
able
to
submit
it
through
christine
and
she
can
add
it
to
the
list.
D
Okay,
no
problem,
miss
spencer,.
C
D
Okay,
so
at
this
time
I
think
we
all
agreed
that
we're
we'll
work
to
get
the
city
clerk
the
information
by
the
following
friday,
not
this
friday,
but
the
following
friday.
That
will
give
her
time
to
process
the
information.
She
will
give
us
updates
when
we're
ready
for
the
she's
ready
for
the
next
step,
and
then
we
can
either
meet
discuss
it
at
the
regular
meeting
or
we
can
choose
to
have
another
special
meeting
to
go
through
it.
D
J
Hi,
I
think
I
immediate
myself,
can
you
hear
me
christine?
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
so
do
I
only
have
three
minutes
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
be
really
quick.
J
I
want
to
say
that
I
agree
with
regards
to
what
supervis
sorry
councilman
perez
is
saying,
because
I
I
keep
bringing
it
up
and
I've
been
bringing
it
up
all
all
last
year
and
it's
about
showing
your
face,
and
it
is
part
of
the
f
and
part
of
the
in
the
ethics,
is
that
the
the
elected
official
must
show
his
face
so
that
the
constituent
can
see
that
you're
paying
attention.
J
So
that's
what
I've
been
trying
to
say
all
along
because
you
could
be.
You
could
be
cooking
right
now
or
you
could
be.
You
know,
playing
cards
with
somebody
and
just
kind
of
just
chatting
back
and
forth
with.
What's
going
on,
I'm
not
saying
that
what's
happening.
Thank
you
paul.
I
can
see
how
much
time
I
have
okay
so
anyway,
so
I
think
I
think
that's
really
important,
and
then
you
mentioned
something
about
that.
J
The
vice
mayor
about
being
on
cog
that
the
the
vice
mayor
should
be
involved.
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
specifically.
Is
that
what
you're
trying
to
say
that
cog
goes
to
the
you
know
the
mayor
and
the
and
the
vice
mayor,
because
I
thought
it
was
those
people
that
are
are
put
on
committees
goes
by
you're
supposed
to
go
by
like
a
rotation
and
not
just
have
the
same
person,
and
I
know
you've
been
picking
yourself
for
cog
and
lafco
forever.
So
how
does
that
work?
J
And
is
that
going
to
be
part
of
your
policies?
Also
with
regards
to
the,
if
you're,
if
you're
wanting
to
say
that
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
policy
for
all
the
actions
to
be
heard
at
a
city
council
meeting?
Does
that
mean
that
the
applicant,
instead
of
going
to
you
and
having
a
cup
of
coffee
and
discussing
what
they
want
a
vote
on?
J
Are
you
going
to
give
them
more
time?
Are
they
going
to
be
limited
to
us?
You
know
you
know
the
three
minutes,
or
are
they
going
to
be
allowed
to
have
more
time
like
they
do
in
a
presentation?
And
I
know
that
you
know
people
reach
out
to
you
guys
all
the
time,
because
they.
I
Of
the
majority's
direction,
that
was
something
that
I
noticed
while
I
was
on
there
and
and
again
don't
bash
other
council
members.
You
don't
agree
with
their
vote.
It's
just
best
not
to
say
anything
you're
supposed
to
do
it
in
the
majority
rules
and
you
move
on
to
don't
keep
rehashing
that
you
didn't
like
something.
So
I'd
really
like
to
to
see
that
stop
and
then,
of
course,
vice
mayor
resendiz
touched
the
other
night
on
city's
facebook.
You
know
I've
never
been
a
fan
of
that.
I
I
wish
you
would
all
stop,
but
that's
not
going
to
happen.
You
know
I.
I
look
forward
to
your
draft
document
to
be
able
to
comment
further,
but
I'm
really
happy
that
you're
all
talking
about
it
and
I
look
forward
to
being
part
of
the
process
on
this
particular
issue
and
I
know
we're
in
capable
hands
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
K
You
hear
me:
yes,
we
can
first
and
foremost,
I
would
like
to
thank
mr
burns
for
having
this
special
meeting.
I
have
asked
the
mayor
and
the
previous
council
members
to
have
this
discussion
for
the
past
three
years,
so
it's
great
to
have
this
discussion
up.
It
is
a
brian
brown's
act,
violation
to
not
let
the
public
know
where
you
are.
If
you
are
not
in
the
chambers,
and
so
we
we
deserve.
K
Roland
and
and
the
mayor
are
not
in
the
same
in
the
same
house,
so
knowing
where
you
are
during
the
meetings
is
part
of
our
rights.
I
think
that
it's
really
important
that
we
get
to
see
your
face
and
especially
since
the
city
council
meetings
are
at
night
at
6
30
p.m.
I
don't
think
anybody's
in
school
at
that
time.
K
I
think
that
it
was
inappropriate
for
the
mayor
to
mention
anything
about
people's
public
comment.
We
have
the
right
to
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
if
we
decide
to
discuss
behavior
of
a
particular
council
member,
that
is
our
right.
I
would
also
like
to
put
into
the
discussion
how
there
are
people
on
this
council
and
sorry,
I'm
going
to
talk
specifically
to
you
that
you
deny.
D
K
You
have
you
have
you
have
made
it
to
where
people
cannot
comment
on
your
posts
if
you
disagree
with
them,
that
is
also
against
the
law
that
violates
people's
first
amendment
rights.
So
I
would
like
that
to
be
part
of
the
discussion
as
well,
but
if
you
are
on
social
media,
everyone
gets
to
comment.
You
cannot
block
people's
comments.
K
K
So
I
think
that
maybe
we
should
just
go
back
to
where
we
can
just
be
free
americans
and
open
those
doors
and
let
people
come
in.
We
need
to
know
where
you
are.
We
need
to
know
where
you're
at
during
these
meetings
and
quit
blocking
people
on
facebook
from
commenting
when
you
don't
agree
with
them
and
again
I
thank
you
for
these,
oh,
and
I
think
that
there
also
should
be
a
process
for
people
to
complaint
and
against
a
city
council
member,
and
that
we
can
have
a
record
of
people's
complaints.
K
D
H
C
Okay,
the
only
thing
I'm
gonna
say
is
that,
and
this
is
the
biggest
problem
we've
ever
had
in
the
two
years
that
I've
been
on
this
council.
C
You
keep
saying
that
is
against
the
law
for
you
or
any
of
us
to
comment
during
public
comment,
but
when
somebody's
commenting,
whether
she's
talking
to
you
or
they're,
talking
to
me
or
whatever
you
always
interrupt
them,
they
have
three
minutes
and
you
kept
talking
over
mrs
evans.
I
think
that
is
wrong.
You
want
to
follow
the
rules
mayor.
You
need
to
follow
them
too.
C
C
Just
like
carol
lenore
said
I've
been
asking
for
this
for
two
years,
we're
finally
doing
it,
and
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
that
we
are
all
finally
getting
on
the
same
page.
But
that
means
for
you
too
mayor
and
everybody
else.
You
can't
have
double
standards,
certain
rules
for
some
and
certain
rules
for
others,
and
that's
something
I'm
gonna
be
championing
for
for
the
rest
of
my
time
on
this
council.
D
Think
my
hands
are
down.
No,
it's
up.
Thank
you.
So
this
is
one
of
the
items
we
just
talked
about,
and
this
again
is
one
of
the
issues
where
members
of
the
public
start
spreading
information-
that's
quite
frankly,
just
false
and
it
should
never
be
tolerating
longer.
This
is
why
these
things
happen
in
the
past
they're,
just
attacks
of
people
that
believe
something
that
most
the
time
is
not
true,
and
we
shouldn't
be
dealing
with
that.
D
We
need
to
be
conducting
business,
that's
factual,
and
that's
why
it's
important
that,
if
we're
going
to
be
having
council
meetings,
we
need
to
be
having
that
in
open
public
where
we're
hearing
together,
what's
going
on
what
developers
might
want
or
somebody
else
what
we
shouldn't
be
hearing
is
accusations
that,
quite
frankly,
can
be
false
and
most
of
time,
as
I
said,
have
been
false.
This
is
what
we've
seen
across
our
country,
and
this
is
why
we've
had
some
problems
across
our
country.
We
shouldn't
be
doing
this
any
longer.
D
This
is
not
a
place
to
spread
rumors
accusations
or
different
things.
Let's
just
move
to
a
new
standard
now
where
we
can
conduct
business
as
a
community
in
a
respectful,
honest
way
and
get
some
business
done,
and
I
think
we
can
do
that.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
these
changes
in
the
rules
and
cleaning
them
up
and
we're
gonna
keep
proceeding
as
we
discuss
tonight,
share
more
information
and
get
to
the
next
step.
So
with
that
is
there
a
motion?
C
Yes,
I
do
have
my
hand
raised.
I'm
glad
you
said
that
mayor,
because
you
know
you're
right.
False
accusations
can
really
hurt
people,
so
I'm
gonna
take
this
opportunity
right
now
and
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
apologize
to
me
for
your
false
accusation
on
january
20th
of
2020,
when
you
accused
me
of
being
involved
in
a
hate
crime
against
councilman
resendez,
you
had
no
no
evidence
the
d.a
even
said
I
was
not
a
person
of
interest,
my
name
never
even
came
up,
but
you
own.
C
The
only
reason
I'm
bringing
it
up
now
is
because
I
said
I
put
something
out
for
new
year's
eve
to
bring
this
community
together
and
a
constituent
reminded
me
that
I
was
involved
in
a
hate
crime
against
councilman
resendez
and
you
and
councilman
resendez
know
that
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
So
I'm
asking
you
right
now
publicly
to
say
that
that
was
false
information
and
apologize
to
me.
D
We're
not
going
to
go
back
and
rehash
all
the
negativity
and
they
hate
from
the
years
before
this
is
why
we're
actually
having
this
meeting,
to
put
it
into
that.
This
should
not
be
happening
any
longer.
We
should
not
be
going
back
having
these
discussions
of
what
was
false.
What
was
true
the
point
here
tonight
is
to
set
standards
that
we
can
all
agree
upon
and
we
can
all
follow
together
as
one
council,
so
we
can
get
business
done
here.
D
We
should
not
ever
have
to
go
through
this
again
and
we
should
never
allow
those
to
come
in
and
again
throw
out
false
accusations
just
because
it
suits
them
for
the
evening.
So
hopefully
we
can
agree
on
that
as
a
council
as
we
work
on
these
rules
and
if
these
things
happen,
we
can
put
a
stop
to
it
instantly
if
it
ever
happens
again-
and
I
have
complete
confidence
in
this
new
council
that
we
will
be
able
to
accomplish
that.