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B
Yeah,
that
should
be
it,
so
why
don't
you
go
ahead?
Okay,.
A
Wonderful,
so
we
will
convene
our
still
in
virtual
land
city
administration
committee
meeting
for
may
so
we'll
call
to
order
officially
a
review
of
the
agenda
very
quickly.
I
don't
have
any
additions.
A
C
D
A
Okay,
seeing
none
we
do
have
our
minutes
from
last
month's
meeting.
So
oh
wait
that
says
march:
oh,
that's
an
error
that
should
say
april
okay,
so
we
have
to
approve
our
april
minutes.
We
already
approved
our
march
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
april
minutes
from
graham
seconded
by
george,
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
our
minutes
and
that's
unanimous.
Thank
you.
A
I
did
not
have
any
comments
come
in
through
the
comment
form
for
this
meeting.
I
just
want
to
ask
if
anybody
else
did
we
don't
believe
that
any
came
in,
but
I
wanted
to
give
people
a
chance
if
they
did,
we
could
summarize
them
now.
A
E
Might
as
well
do
that,
since
I
am
the
liaison
to
the
exciseo
access
oversight
committee
perfect.
So
this
is
to
approve
their
annual
budget
recommended
budget.
E
E
Doing
businesses,
spectrum
that
we
are
required
to
provide
an
annual
budget
for
the
public,
educational
and
government
access
operation,
other
side
otherwise
known
as
peg
by
the
end
of
june
of
each
calendar
year.
E
Whereas
the
franchise
agreement
authorizes
charter
communications
to
collect
15
cents
per
subscriber
per
month
to
be
used
for
the
purchase
of
equipment
for
the
peg
studios
and
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca's
ordinance
requires
that
the
oversight
committee
provide
the
participating
municipalities
with
a
recommended
budget
by
the
end
of
may
each
year
and
whereas
aoc
have
reviewed
peg's
operations
and
anticipates
that
new
equipment
will
be
needed
and
whereas,
at
their
regular
meeting
on
may
5th,
the
aoc
recommended
earmarking
up
to
20
thousand
dollars
as
contingency
to
purchase
equipment
as
needed
for
the
functioning
of
peg.
E
E
A
Great,
I
see
donna
and
then
jackson.
F
G
Right,
yeah,
no,
unfortunately,
so
the
franchise
agreement
generally
there
are.
There
are
two
major
problems
in
obtaining
real
benefits
for
the
public
through
the
franchise
agreement.
One
is
that
we've
been
at
it
for
years
and
spectrum
slash
charter.
Communications
has
been
very
unresponsive.
G
Unfortunately,
despite
many
attempts
across
the
years
to
actually
signing
a
new
franchise
agreement,
which
means
that
the
old
one
is
still
in
effect
and
the
other
is
that
it
only
applies
to
the
television
side,
not
to
the
internet
side
of
their
I'm
services
to
say.
D
A
A
D
D
Whereas
on
march
11
2020
common
council
adopted
a
resolution
which
had
as
its
subject
a
quote,
commitment
to
terms
between
the
city
of
ithaca
and
thompson,
county
and
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
dia
in
support
of
the
city's
financial
guarantee
for
the
community
conference
center
project
and
which
include
a
commitment
to
quote,
establish
a
hotel
room
occupancy
tax
to
support
the
conference
center.
Or
if
such
a
hotel
accuracy
tax
of
successful
being
authorized.
Establishes
a
tourism
improvement
district
to
generate
the
required
revenues
from
elijah
industry
for
the
conference
center.
D
Whereas
new
state
enabling
legislation
specific
to
the
city
of
italy,
is
required
for
the
city
to
have
the
power
to
enact
the
local
law
establishing
a
city
of
physical
hotel
occupancy
tax,
whereas
assemblywoman
barbara
lifton
and
senator
tom
o'mara
have
introduced
identical
bills
in
new
york
assembly
and
new
york
state
senate
assembly
bill
number
a
one,
zero.
Four
one.
Four
and
senate
bill
number
s
zero.
D
A
Is
there
a
second
rob?
Thank
you
so
tom,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
summer.
Oh
hi
samantha,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
summarize
anything
quickly.
We've
sort
of
talked
about
this
topic
a
lot
and
maybe
people
just
have
specific
questions.
This
is
essentially
the
next
step
in
the
process
forward
of
the
agreement
that
we
voted
in
march.
H
Exactly
yeah
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
You
know
I
as
as
you
as
the
resolution
says,
you
know
we're
prepared
to
turn
around
and
issue
those
requests
to
the
assembly
and
senate
to
get
this
introduced
as
soon
after
the
june
3rd
council
meeting
is
possible.
Obviously
the
legislature
has
had
their
schedule
changed
by
the
chronovirus
crisis,
so
we
are
hoping
that
it
can
be
voted
on
this
year,
but
we
don't
have
a
clear
sense
of
a
date
of
a
vote.
H
You
you
would
need
to
act
assuming
it's
signed
into
law
to
establish
the
local
law,
so
that
would
be
the
next
step.
You
know
in
this
process
of
establishing
the
room
tax
once
that
state
enabling
law
is
passed,
we
would
we
would
move
to.
We
would
have
a
local
law
drafted
and
you
know
have
a
public
hearing
and
vote
on
the
adoption
of
local
law.
You
as.
E
H
H
Some
of
the
definitions
and
use
restrictions
are
are
are
in
the
are
going
to
be
identical
to
the
to
the
state
enabling
law.
But
there
is
some
flexibility
in
what
you
can
put
in
your
local.
I
I
So
tom
thanks
for
your
memo
and
including
that
background
material,
I
have
several
questions.
I
guess
to
start
with
so
in
the
looking
at
the
document.
So
in
the
memorandum
to
support
the
legislation,
it
says
the
project
was
the
recipient
of
five
million
dollars,
so
that
money
has
been
awarded
to
the
city,
then,
is
that
correct.
H
We
did
receive
notice
of
the
award,
the
the
actual
applicant
was
the
chamber
of
commerce
foundation,
we're
in
the
midst
of
working
with
the
downtown
estate
alliance
to
create
the
conference
center
entity,
which
would
be
the
entity
that
the
state
contract
would
be
transferred
to
and
would
be,
the
entity
that
would
hold
the
lease
with
the
cno
and
sort
of
manage
the
operations
of
the
comm
center,
manage
the
contract
with
the
third
party
operator,
etc.
So
we
have
the
grant
awarded
that
we
don't
yet
have
it
under
contract.
H
However,
you
know
after
some
conversations,
including
some
very
recently,
you
know
we
feel
confident
that
this
grant
is
not
at
risk
of
being
clawed
back
and
that
we
will
we're
in
active
conversation
with
the
grant
officer
at
esd
about
getting
that
contract
in
place.
I
H
Yeah,
if
the
state
grant
does
not
move
forward,
we
would
have
to
either
replace
that
state
grant
with
another
grant
or
that
the
project
could
not
move
forward.
So
the
grant
is
certainly
critical
to
the
project.
I
And
then
another
question,
then
I'll,
let
others
join
in.
So
I
I
noticed
that
in
the
resolution.
F
I
Says,
let's
see
it
says
that
revenues
to
be
used
for
construction
promotion,
the
capital
improvements,
blah
blah
blah,
but
in
the
memo
it
says
that
the
city
can
actually
keep
four
percent
of
that
total
revenue
for
administering
this
program.
J
Hi
tom,
I
a
couple
questions
if
we
approve
this,
if
we
vote
for
this
tonight,
does
this
have
to
be
approved
by
the.
H
George,
I
you
you
cut
out
temporarily
there
were
you
asking
whether
this?
What
about
the
process
for
approval,
what
it
would
need
to
go
to
the
legislature
and
then
the
governor
would
need
to
sign
it?
Is
that
what
you're
asking
about
yep?
Yes,
that's,
that's
correct!
You
would
have
to
pass
both
the
assembly
and
the
senate,
and
then
the
governor
would
need
to
sign
it.
H
J
Do
we
have
any
input
from
barbara
lifton
or
senator
o'mara
about
the
likelihood
of
rapid
approval.
H
We've
been
asking
that
question
george,
you
know
they,
they
have
the
ability
to
vote
remotely
they're
in
support
of
this
and
are
going
to
be
introducing
this
bill,
but
I
think
it's
anyone's
guess
right
now
as
to
what
the
legislative
schedule
past
june
2nd
of
this
year
will
be.
H
We
do
we
do
imagine
that
it's
likely
and
we've
we've
heard
from
some
some
folks
that
are
very
familiar
with
albany-
that
given
a
potential
backlog
of
legislation
there,
there
may
be
a
session
in
the
fall,
perhaps
after
the
election.
We
don't
know
that
for
certain,
but
that
it
seems
logical
that
that
might
happen.
H
That's
that's
possible,
where
it's
possible
that
they
could
extend
the
session
and
we
could
vote,
have
them
vote
on
it
sometime
in
early
summer.
J
How
likely
is
are
we
to
have
to
resort
to
that?
I
don't
recall
all
the
details,
but
I
remember
ari,
saying
that
it's
a
really
problematic
format
and
that
it
can
affect
our
tax
cap
issues.
G
I
can
just
say
that
the
tourism
improvement
district
option,
which
boils
down
in
legal
terms
to
being
a
special
benefit
assessment,
is,
is
suboptimal
from
a
legal
perspective.
It
does
have
some
problems
with
it,
and
one
of
those
certainly
is
that
it
also
factors
into
the
tax
cap
and
you're,
potentially
potentially
talking
about
a
large
amount
of
money
and
therefore
a
large
percentage
change
in
the
tax
cap,
which
is
not
a
positive.
K
G
Though
those
taxes,
those
additional
taxes
would
of
course
be
paid
specifically
by
the
hotels
and
and
other
lodging
industry
and
participants,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
possibility
and
it
has
always
been
the
sort
of
plan
b
if,
if
the
room
tax
authorization
were
to
not
come
through
from
the
state
for
some
reason,
so
it
is
an
option.
I
I
think,
tom's
probably
best
to
speak
to
how
that
would
financially
align
with
the
other
pieces.
I
will
yield
to
utah.
H
Sure
yeah,
I
think
the
other
part
of
your
question
george,
was
about
you
know
what,
if
we
don't
see
room
tax
revenues
come
in
at
the
rate
that
we
had
projected
that
we
need
them
to
and
and
as
nels
had
shared
in
one
of
our
previous
conversations
about
this
there,
there
would
be
an
option
to
sort
of
add
on
a
special
benefit
assessment
district
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
reserve
accounts
capitalized
at
the
levels
we
need
to
to
protect
city
taxpayers,
and
you
know
I
I
think
that
that
would
be
an
option.
H
I
don't
think
it's
the
only
option,
and
probably
not
the
first
and
best
option
for
addressing
a
potential
reduced
revenues
from
room
tax.
The
the
first
and
best
option
would
probably
be
to
look
at
borrowing
more
the
cost
of
borrowing
the
interest
rates
are
lower
now
than
they
were
when
we
built
the
pro
forma.
H
So
borrowing
more
up
to
a
certain
level
could
have
a
neutral
impact
on
the
operating
pro
forma
moving
forward
and
would
allow
you
to
put
a
larger
portion
of
the
pre-conference
center
opening
room
tax
revenues
towards
the
various
reserve
accounts,
including
the
city's
final
reserve.
So
your
question
was
about
what,
if
you
know
what,
if
room
tax
revenues
don't
come
in
is
projected-
and
you
know
that
would
be
another
way
to
address
that
potential.
F
H
I'd
be
happy
to
so.
The
dia
requested
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
the
the
not
tcad
the
tompkins
county
development.
H
I'm
sorry
because
I'm
I'm
not
getting
the
term
someone,
someone
will
remind
me,
maybe
nels
they
have
a
grant
and
it
was
it
was
to
be
for
supporting
this
project
manager.
So
sarah
hayes
has
been
hired.
H
She
is
kind
of
like
an
owner's
rep,
actively
coordinating
with
the
vasino
group
on
the
conceptual
design
process
in
support
of
the
conference
center
organizing
committee.
She
is
helping
with
the
coordinating
on
the
formation
of
the
organization.
H
So
that's
a
that's
a
contract
that
we
have
through
the
fall
with
sarah
hayes
to
assist
with
all
of
the
the
details
of
pulling
together
the
the
conference
center
project.
H
It's
the
it's
the
conference
center,
organizing
committee,
which
is
the
group
that
consists
of
the
the
same
folks
who've,
been
working
on
the
details
of
this
from
the
beginning.
So
that's
the
downtown
ithaca
alliance,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
the
cvb
myself,
the
iura.
H
Yeah,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
details
to
pull
this
project
together,
and
this
is
a
there's,
a
real
need
for
the
project
the
grant
was
given.
I
think,
in
february,
to
support
this.
K
K
K
This
is
the
well
actually.
It
was
mentioned
briefly
in
in
one
of
our
previous
council
meetings,
but
we
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
this
option.
K
I
think
this
is
the
first
presentation
of
instead
of
using
the
the
tid
to
actually
borrow
to
fund
the
conference
center,
and
I
think
it
was
surprising
to
me
when
I
first
heard-
and
I
didn't
quite
know
how
to
process
it
at
the
time,
because
when
this
project
was
presented
to
council,
there
was
the
explicit
assurance
that
the
cost
of
the
the
guarantee
would
not
be
borne
by
the
general
fund.
K
It
would
not
be
borne
by
the
the
city,
property
taxpayers,
and
so
when
you're
talking
about
borrowing,
are
you
saying
that
the
this
project
sponsors
are
going
to
be
borrowing
and
not
the
city?
Who
is
who
is
borrowing
exactly
to
cover
that
1.9
million
dollar
annual
fee,
as
well
as
the
construction
bond.
H
Great
question:
I
don't
think
we
would
be
first.
First
of
all,
the
city
would
not
be
borrowing
it
would.
Okay,
it
would
be
vasino
who
is
sort
of
funding
and
managing
the
construction
of
the
project
and
then
we'll
lease
that
back
to
this
operating
entity,
that's
now
being
created,
and
so
there's
a
big.
You
know
that
lease
payment
is
is
to
pay
for
debt
on
the
project.
H
My
earlier
statement
was
just
about
increasing
that
debt
because,
as
you
as
you
may
recall,
we
had
projected
3.8
million
over
two
years
in
2021
and
2022
and
one
and
a
quarter
was
going
to
go
to
our
city
final
operating
reserve
account.
H
K
Okay,
so
so
we
would
be
borrowing
money
to
pay
off
the
con
borrowing,
a
new
borrowing
to
pay
off
the
construction
bond
due
on
year,
one
or
two
years
in
it's
kind
of
a
fuzzy
thing,
and
then
so
you're
not
talking
about
borrowing
both
create
a
reserve
and
to
pay
off
the
borrowing
of
which
is
the
least
guaranteed.
K
H
K
The
whole
purpose
of
the
occupancy
tax
is
to
pay
that
1.9
million
dollars
a
year
and
he
had
asked
what
are
the
options
are
to
to
cover
that
payment?
If
in
case
it
doesn't
meet
that
you
were
saying
your
first
choice
would
not
be
to
do
the
tid,
but
would
to
do
borrowing.
So
what
is
the
other
option
it?
Because
we,
I
think
we
fall
fully
recognized
that
the
impact
on
our
tax
levy
means
that
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
use
that
tax
levy
for
our
general
fund.
K
So
so,
what
again
is
the
other
option
that
that
you're
proposing.
H
Sure
the
other,
the
other
option,
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
proposal
at
this
point,
I
would
say
it's
just
you
know
an
option:
should
those
revenues
come
in
less
than
anticipated
or
less
than
needed
would
be
to
to
do
a
room
tax
and
for
whatever
period
would
be
needed,
a
special
benefit
assessment
district.
Over
top
of
that,
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
remind
people
and
clarify
that,
in
terms
of
protecting
the
city
taxpayer,
there
are
a
number
of
reserve
accounts.
H
You
know
that
are
created
and
and
need
to
be
built
up,
and
there
this
this
conversation
tonight,
as
I
understand,
is
really
about
how
we
make
sure
to
capitalize
the
reserve
account
that
the
city
holds
to
protect
the
taxpayer
at
the
level
that
is
in
our
project
pro
forma.
You
remember
all
those
risk
analyses
that
we
did
with
a
bunch
of
assumptions
and
other
people
paying
in
as
well.
You
know
those
are.
Those
are
all
the
the
desire
here
is
to
make
sure
that
that
remains
in
place.
So
that's
not
fair
is
protected.
K
So
so,
if
I
may,
the
reserve
account
was
to
be
funded
by
the
occupancy
tax,
assuming
that
we
have
a
7
to
15
drop
in
occupancy
of
last
year
and
then,
in
addition
to
those
reserves
we
were
supposed
to
be,
we
were
to
receive
some
funds
from
the
hotels
and
partners
to
contribute
to
those
reserves.
It's
just
been
announced,
and
I
recognize
that
that
that
you
have
clarified
that
this
has
been
addressed,
but
that
10
downtown
hotels
have
actually
not
paid
their
occupancy
tax
that
they
currently
owe
to
the
county.
K
So
I
guess
my
other
question
is
what
assurance
what
what
protection
do?
We
have
that
the
hotels
are
actually
going
to
the
current
owners
and
whatever
future
owners
may
may
take
ownership
of
those
hotels
will
make
good
on
the
commitment
to
fund
those
reserves.
H
Sure
that's
a
good
question.
You
know
I
just
to
remind
everyone.
The
hotels
were
going
to
pay
directly
the
four
downtown
hotels,
we're
going
to
pay
directly
into
a
reserve
account
that
would
be
held
at
the
chamber.
H
That
would
be
capitalized
a
certain
level
and
then,
if
it
got
tapped
through
the
different
sort
of
the
waterfall
of
different
reserves,
getting
tapped,
then
it
would
be
replenished,
and
that
was
for
a
10-year
period.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
contributions
that
you're
asking
about
and
what
would
we?
What
would
be?
What
would
we
be
able
to
do
to
ensure
that
that
would
happen,
and
that
would
be
governed
by
the
contract
that
the
city
would
hold
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
foundation?
H
Who
would
collect
on
behalf
of
collect
from
the
four
hotels
and
then
hold
that
money
in
a
reserve
account
and
provide
it
to
the
conference
center
project
if
needed,
and
so
ari
would
be
able
to
answer
better
than
I
about
what
specific
enforcement
mechanisms
you
might
be
able
to
build
into
such
a
contract.
H
The
the
room
tax,
of
course,
is
the
other
piece
and
the
major
piece-
and
you
know,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
precedent.
We've
had
a
county
room
tax
for
over
30
years
in
tompkins
county.
I
directed
the
county
tourism
program
for
seven
years
and
during
my
time
we
actually
did
have
a
group
of
hotels
that
became
delinquent
in
paying
their
taxes.
H
Actually,
there
was
a
backlog
of
you
know
over
six
figures
in
tax
and
the
county
was
the
the
short
the
short
story
of
the
county
was
successful
in
collecting
that,
even
without
moving
to
you
know
the
nth
degree
with
what
their
powers
were,
which
are
basically
to
be
able
to
place
a
lien
on
the
property
which
limits
what
the
owner
can
do
in
a
lot
of
really
important
ways
so
that
they
are
they're
basically
compelled
by
that
threat
of
a
lien
to
pay
and
and
to
pay
penalties
as
well
for
late,
and
so
that
has
been
our
history.
H
We
at
the
city
will
be
crafting
our
own
local
law
and,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier
in
our
conversation
tonight,
there
may
be
opportunities
to
strengthen
that
even
beyond
what
the
county
has,
so
those
those
enforcement
mechanisms
would
be
in
place.
I
don't
know
if
re
wanted
to
add
to
that
relating
to
the
civil.
K
K
I
mean
the
chamber
of
commerce
has
no
assets.
This
is
a
significant
obligation
upon
which
I
I
thoroughly
anticipate.
We
will
seek
reliance
on
so
so
we're
going
to
and
it
doesn't
sound.
At
least
I
haven't
heard
yet-
and
I
hope
perhaps
this
is
something
in
negotiation-
that
future
owners
of
hotels
would
continue
that
obligation.
So
what
assurance
do
we
have
again?
K
Because
if,
if
anything,
if
it
is
the
chamber
of
commerce
that
is
under
obligation,
that
actually
provides
less
assurance
to
me
than
than
the
hotels
themselves,
because
at
least
that
way
there
would
be
assets
to
to
go
after.
G
So
sorry,
cynthia,
I
think,
you're
as
to
the
room
tax,
it's
not
the
chamber
of
commerce,
that's
on
the
hook
right.
It's
the
individual
room,
tax
and
or
special
benefit
assessment,
either
one
it's
not
the
chamber
of
commerce,
that's
on
the
hook.
So
I
think
your
question
is
not
targeted
at
that,
which
is
the
primary
stream
of
revenues
at
issue
here.
So
I
think
you're
asking
about
a
sort
of
a
secondary
set,
which
is
the
reserve
fund
contributions,
is
that
what
you're
asking
about.
G
As
to
the
reserve
contributions,
my
answer
would
be
that
there
are,
it
will
be
a
legally
binding
contract
between
us
and
the
participants
who
are
contributing
tom
can
actually
speak
better
than
I
can
to
who
those
participants
will
ultimately
be
or
maybe
nells,
but
there
should
ultimately
be
a
contractual
relationship
between
us
and
them
that
binds
them
to
make
the
contributions
that
they
have
offered.
H
Yeah
that
makes
sense
that
you
would
include
those
hotel
properties
in
the
agreement
and
not
just
the
chamber
of
commerce
foundation.
Obviously,
we
haven't
written
that
agreement
yet,
but
yeah.
The
four
hotels
that
have
agreed
to
contribute
and
signed
a
letter
to
that
effect
are
the
four
downtowns
hilton
garden
inn
hilton
canopy,
the
marriott
hotel,
I
think
the
other,
the
other,
the
other.
H
I
put
this
in
a
legal
category
of
moral
obligation,
maybe
which
doesn't
sound
very
strong,
but
of
course
all
of
these
hotels
will
benefit
very
directly
from
the
conference
center,
and
you
know
if
you're
not
contributing
to
the
conference
center-
and
you
know
you-
you
may
be
at
risk
of
not
receiving
the
same
level
of
benefit
of
the
conference
center,
which
would
not
be
something
that
I
think
that
the
hotels
would
want
to
entertain.
A
J
Tom
I'm
really
impressed
with
how
much
work
you've
done
on
this,
and
I
don't
pretend
to
understand
all
the
issues
in
play.
But
I
do
know
that
sometimes
businesses
who
want
to
participate
in
something
can't
because
of
of
hard
times.
So
what.
J
H
Well,
those
buildings
are
there,
I
mean
if,
if,
if
the
unfortunate
thing
happens
and
one
of
those
hotels
closes
frankly,
it's
unlikely
that
it
would
cease
operation
a
hotel,
it
might
change
hands,
it
might
change
structures
etc.
But
your
questions
about
what
would
happen
if
you've
lost
a
hotel
either
in
the
downtown
of
the
city.
I
think
it's
an
important
question.
H
We
we
did
model
that
in
one
of
our
risk
scenarios
that
we
would
lose
a
100
room
property
in
the
city
and
what
would
the
impact
of
that
be
on
on
the
project
and
under
the
assumptions
of
the
risk
analysis
that
nels
and
I
performed
you
could
withstand
the
loss
of
of
a
of
a
100
room
hotel
under
the
other
conditions
that
we
laid
out
so
it
would,
it
would
not
be
good,
but
up
to
a
certain
level,
the
project
could
probably
withstand
that.
H
I
mean,
I
think
your
broader
question
is:
what's
the
likely
impact
of
kova
19,
the
current
crisis,
to
be
on
the
hotel
industry
moving
forward
and
there's
no
doubt
that
2020
will
go
down
in
history
as
probably
the
worst
year
for
travel
and
tourism
ever
and
hotels
are
responding
to
that
in
various
ways.
Some
of
them
have
closed
during
this
period
to
stem
their
losses.
H
What's
the
future
of
travel,
look
like
be
happy
to
speak
about
that
a
little
bit
I've
been,
you
know,
trying
to
dig
into
survey
research
and
other
industry
data
to
try
to
get
at
that.
I
don't
want
to
steal
the
air
time,
but
it's
it's
an
important
question
to
be
asking
in
a
question.
The
whole
industry
is
asking.
Maybe
if
I
could,
I
would
just
say,
around
leisure
travel.
H
You
know
ithaca
is
actually
pretty
well
positioned
to
see
a
return
of
leisure
travel,
we're
primarily
a
drive
destination,
so
we
don't
rely
on
air
travel
and
buses
for
people
to
get
here
and
enjoy
it.
76
percent
of
our
visitors
are
repeat
visitors,
we're
seen
as
centrally
isolated
and
as
long
as
we
maintain
a
low
rate
of
infection
and
hospitalization
and
transmission
here
you
know
that
that's
that's
attractive
to
potential
travelers.
H
The
number
one
purpose
for
leisure
visitors,
ithaca
is
outdoor
recreation,
that's
something
that
is
seen
as
relatively
safe
and
attractive
to
folks.
Right
now-
and
you
know
a
minor
point,
but
travelers
are
going
to
gravitate
towards
lodging
that
clearly
demonstrates
cleaning
and
sanitizing
procedures
and
those
may
be
hotels
that
have
higher
rates
which
may
drive
room
tax
up.
H
You
know
we
used
to
see
some
of
these
factors
as
negatives
for
our
community,
so
many
return,
visitors,
centrally
isolated
drive
to
destination,
but
in
in
today's
climate
that
is
actually
flipped
and
as
long
as
we
do
it
intelligently
and
we
do
it
in
a
safe
manner.
We're
actually
pretty
well
positioned
to
see
return
of
leisure
travel,
which
will
you
know,
which
will
help
with
this
project.
A
Right
in
the
interest
of
trying
to
stick
to
this,
this
topic
that
we're
voting
on
specifically,
which
is
to
support
this
important
bill
that
moves
forward
to
the
state.
If
people
are
interested
a
little
bit
more
once
all
of
the
phases
of
reopening
have
happened,
and
we
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
the
travel
industry,
we
could
have
a
short
presentation
or
conversation
about
what
that
might
look
like
for
our
area
as
part
of
our
budget
process.
A
A
J
One
last
question
and
I'm
hedging
a
little
bit.
This
question
is
for
cevante
cevante's
mentioned.
J
Sorry
question
for
savante:
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
what
is
the
likelihood
of
additional
grant
money
for
this
project
in
the
relatively
near
future,
either
federal
or
state.
L
Yeah,
I
think
it
depends,
I
think
it's
very
high,
so
I
think
the
reason
I
think
the
likelihood
is
high
is
that
it's
very
rare
that
you
will
find
mitch
mcconnell
nancy
pelosi,
president
trump
jerome
powell
and
and
cevante
myrick,
all
saying
the
same
thing,
and
that
thing
is
that
the
medium
and
long-term
success
of
the
economy
is
going
to
depend
on
a
forceful
economic
stimulus.
L
So
even
the
right,
which
is
fighting
against
the
sort
of
direct
local
aid
that
we
need
to
keep
our
doors
open,
is
fighting
for
the
kind
of
aid
to
shovel
ready
infrastructure
projects
that
create
economic
growth
and
jobs,
and
the
left
and
congress
is
fighting
for
the
same
thing.
So
the
negotiation
over
the
the
next
cares
act,
which
should
get
underway
june,
5th
or
june
6th,
is
going
to
start
with
that
as
a
baseline
understanding
that
both
sides
want
the
infrastructure
spending
for
economic
stimulus.
L
They'll
put
that
aside
and
then
they'll
start
fighting
over
whether
or
not
they
should
fund
cities
or
states.
What
does
that
mean?
It
means
that
a
bunch
of
money
should
be
coming
down
the
line
exactly
for
projects
like
this.
So
I
think
it's
very
high.
Still
you
know
speculative
I'm
I'm
I
mean
I'll,
be
very
up
front.
L
You
hear
you're
trying
to
guess,
and
here
you're
trying
to
assume
that
the
united
states
congress
is
going
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
I
I
I
as
sure
as
you
can
be
in
this
world
at
this
time.
I
am
sure
that
more
money
will
come
and
that
this
will
be
a
very
strong
competitor
for
those
project
funds.
L
Just
point
out
too,
I
was
on
the
newer
conference
of
mayor's
executive
committee
today
spoke
to
two
members
of
the
governor's
staff
today
went
on
fox
news
today
to
push
for
more
funding
and
in
all
of
those
places.
In
all
those
conversations,
what
I
heard
back
was
that
you're
probably
not
going
to
get
exactly
what
you
want,
but
you
will
get
these
economic
development
projects
funded.
Now
I
heard
that
both
at
the
state
and
federal
level,
it
was
pointed.
D
J
Did
you
ask
him
if
he's
gonna
sign
the
occupancy
tax.
L
I
didn't
ask
him
no,
but
I
did
ask
the
staff
they
believe
it's
all
very
speculative,
it's
not
clear
again
when
they
would
vote
on
it,
but
they
believe
that
a
few
things
set
this
occupancy
tax
apart
from
the
ones
that
he's
vetoed
in
the
past,
one
being
that
it's
going
to
a
specific
project
and
two
being
that
the
hotels
themselves
are
very
much
in
favor
of
it
he's
veto
these
projects,
these
taxes
in
the
past,
when
both
those
were
not
the
case.
A
A
I
Graham
one
more
question
tom,
thank
you
for
your
patience
there,
I'm
just
looking
at
that.
Second,
whereas
referring
to
the
tourism
improvement
district
that
would
include
more
than
just
the
lodging
industry.
Is
that
right,
the
people
that
would
be
contributing
to
that
would
be
more
than
just
the
hotels.
Is
that
correct,
or
because.
I
I
mean
in
all
of
this,
I
think
we're
trying
to
distribute
the
risk
and
and
really
trying
to
protect
the
taxpayers,
and
so
I'm
wondering
is
that
the
case
for
that
improvement,
district-
it
wouldn't
just
be
hotels.
Is
that
right,
not
just
logic.
I
F
I
J
I
will
say
on
the
last
vote
I
feel
like
we
may
have
booked
ship
on
the
titanic
here,
but
I
really
am
confident
in
the
people
who
are
steering
the
boat
and
that's
why
I
voted
for
it.
J
J
J
Whereas
the
shutdown
of
the
economy
in
response
to
the
coven
19
crisis
has
seriously
impacted
city
revenues
resulting
in
a
proj
projected
budget
deficit
for
2020
of
between
4
million
and
13
million
dollars
due
to
decreased
sales,
tax
collection,
decreased
parking
revenues,
decreased
trash
tag,
revenues
likely
reduction
in
state
aid
and
reductions
in
other
revenue
sources
and
bad
luck
at
the
poker
table.
Whereas,
just
weeks
ago,
the
common
council
authorized
and
the
city
instituted
the
furlough
of
approximately
87
city
employees.
J
Now,
therefore,
it
be
resolved
with
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
hereby
authorizes
the
mayor
and
city
controller
to
take
the
steps
necessary
to
reduce
funding
allocations
to
organizations
funded
by
the
city
by
6.25
percent
of
the
annual
allocation
previously
budgeted
by
the
city
for
each
such
organization
and
be
it
further
resolved.
But
notwithstanding
the
foregoing,
no
organization
sponsored
by
the
city
should
be
required
to
return
to
the
city.
A
For
a
second,
graham,
thank
you,
okay.
I
know
we
got
a
little
bit
of
a
chart
earlier.
Who
wants
to
speak
to
this
steve,
ari,
ari,
steve.
G
G
Okay,
thank
you.
So
it's
the
at
the
very
end
of
the
third
to
last
resolved,
and
you
can
all
see
this
in
the
word
document
that
I
just
sent
around
to
as
well,
but
at
the
very
end
of
the
third
to
last
resolved
after
the
word
contingent,
it
would
say
nor
to
any
funding
that
is
a
direct
pass-through
of
county
sales
tax
to
an
outside
organization
semicolon
and
be
it
further,
which
is
the
part
that
was
already
there.
I
Does
that
was
that
an
oversight?
Previously,
I
mean
that's.
Presumably
there
are
organizations
like
that,
so.
G
C
To
let's
see
through
the
library
support,
so
we
had
library,
we
have
library
support
in
the
sales
tax
agreement
with
the
county,
and
we
also
have
additional
library
support
that
we
put
into
the
budget
above
and
beyond
that
amount
and
so
that
additional
amount.
C
The
five
thousand
dollars
is
the
amount
that
we
were
talking
about
here
in
this
resolution
to
reduce
and
we
are
leaving
the
sales
tax
agreement
in
place
and
not
adjusting
that,
because
that
becomes
much
more
complicated
to
work
through
in
making
changes
and
there's
other
organizations
as
well
that
are
intertwined
in
that
sales.
Tax
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
county.
C
A
So
does
it
do
we
want
to
go
through?
I
know
you
sent
a
list.
I
was
curious.
There
wasn't
there
wasn't
any
sort
of
total
of
what
we'd
actually
gained.
By
doing
this,
I
was
just.
I
was
just
looking
to
see
what
what
this
would
gain.
It
seems
seems
fairly
complicated
to
figure
out
all
of
the
little
pots
of
money,
and
you
guys
are
doing
so
many
other
things.
You
know,
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
is
it?
A
C
Well,
I
can
tell
you
it
it's
roughly
about
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
and
change
of
reduction
for
2020,
so
I
mean
it
is.
It
is
something
and
right
now
we
kind
of
need
almost
everything
on
the
table
until
we
really
find
out
what's
happening
down
the
road
a
little
bit,
but
I
I
could
share
my
screen
and
show
you
what
that
would
look
like
for
each
of
those.
D
A
D
Yeah,
my
apologies
to
todd
kurtz.
Well,
I
I
did
see
this
early
and
I
just
completely
forgot
it.
It
wasn't
relevant
to
anything,
that's
currently
on
our
agenda,
but
he's
requesting
that
we
look
at
being
a
little
more
overt
and
deliberate
about
enforcing
certain
activity
on
the
primary
commons,
specifically
bus
gaming,
on
the
commons
dogs
on
the
commons,
but
at
least
or
unleashed
smoking
on
the
commons
and
bike
scooters
skates
other
vehicles
on
the
commons
and,
of
course,
consistency
with
enforcing
the
wearing
of
masks.
D
Owner
on
the
commons,
you
know
fantasy
of
sunny
days
again.
This
is
one
of
those
issues.
I
know.
Community
life
was
in
the
middle
of
addressing
this
before
this
covert
disaster
happened,
but
he
his
emails
about
that.
A
I
I
C
C
Total
contract
amount
for
these
particular
organizations,
then
what
the
quarterly
amount
would
be
paid
to
date
and
then
third
quarter
payment
and
then
the
25
reduction,
which
you
know
turns
out
to
be
this
equivalent
to
a
6.25
percent
reduction.
But
the
total
amount.
There
is
23
little
over
23
000
to
those
organizations.
C
We
still
have
a
couple
questions
on
a
couple
and
we
have
to
make
amendments
to
the
actual
contract
documents,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
reached
out
through
through
the
mayor's
funding
letter
to
the
organizations
that
will
be
impacted
and
and
for
the
most
part,
all
of
them
understood
where
the
city
was
coming
from
and
in
some
cases
we're
happy
to
help
help
out
the
city's
situation.
A
A
I
Steve
so
steve,
you
said
you've
heard
from
all
these
organizations,
or
I
couldn't
quite-
and
some
of
them
are
fine,
but
have
others
expressed
kind
of
concern,
or
you
know,
the
impact
of
these
is
going
to
really
affect
their
operation.
C
Yeah
nobody.
Nobody
indicated
that
you
know
the
reductions
that
we
were
proposing
would
have
a
big
impact
on
their
budget
for
2020..
C
Like
I
said,
most
of
them
said
that
they
totally
understood
where
the
city
was
coming
from
and
and
some
fully
expected
this
to
come
through
as
you
as
you
may
know,
the
county
is
also
doing
something
very
similar
to
this
for
their
funding
organization,
so
they
yeah
pretty
much.
Everybody
was,
I
mean,
I'm
sure
they're
not
thrilled
by
it,
but.
A
I
A
D
C
Yeah
we
pretty
much
based
it
on
what
the
county
was
doing
as
well,
so.
G
Yeah,
that's
exactly
what
the
county
did
in
particular.
Taking
a
quarter
of
the
third
quarter.
Funded
amounts
for
each
of
those
organizations
from
the
county,
and
we
did
the
same
thing.
A
I
think
we're
we
can
stop
our
screen
sharing.
Thank
you
dan.
That
way,
I
can
see
everyone,
so
are
we
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously?
Thank
you
thank
you
for
putting
that
together.
I
know,
like
you
said,
every
little
bit
helps.
I
wasn't
initially
being
critical
with
my
first
question.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
amount
of
work
to
process
that
was
was
actually
going
to
gain
us,
something
that
made
it.
A
I
Or
I'll
I'll
go
for
this
one.
I
So
this
is
a
resolution
authorizing
increase
to
capital
project
for
financial
software
improvements,
whereas,
as
part
of
the
2016
budget
approval
capital
project,
825
was
established
in
the
amount
of
150
000
to
allow
for
several
improvements
to
our
main
financial
software
for
the
city
tyler
technology
munis
and
whereas,
while
it
took
some
time
for
the
design
of
those
improvements,
we
are
currently
implementing.
Many
of
those
upgrades
mainly
for
tax
billing
and
collection
capital
projects.
I
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
common
council
hereby
amends
capital
project
825
in
the
amount
not
to
exceed
225
000
for
a
total
project.
Authorization
of
375
000
to
improve
the
city's
financial
software,
including
upgrades
to
the
utility
buildings,
billing
system,
remote
software
and
management
hosting
and
cash
management,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
funds
necessary
for
this
software
and
hardware
upgrade
shall
be
derived
from
the
issuance
of
serial
bonds
and
iso.
C
Yeah
sure
so
I
included
a
a
memo
on
this
and
also
some
backup
for
our
remote
hosting
of
the
proposal
to
remote
host
our
active
our
financial
activity.
C
I
know,
obviously
this
isn't
a
great
time
to
be
be
looking
to
spend
more
money,
but
in
this
case
we've
been
working
hard
at
updating
our
financial
system
with
a
number
of
changes
that,
hopefully,
will
make
things
much
better
internally
and
externally,
including
our
tax
billing
and
accounts
receivable
and
credit
card
activity
through
both
internally
and
also
externally,
with
the
community
members
allowing
the
community
to
do
more
online
activity
for
us,
so
that
the
now
with
covid,
the
point
of
contact
will
be
lessened.
C
In
addition,
we
have
capital
projects,
utility
billing
and
various
other
activity
that
occurs
with
our
financial
program.
That
is
in
need
of
updates.
We
originally
purchased
this
program
back
in
1995
and
I
would
say
basically
on
the
cheap
at
that
time.
C
We
really
it
was
a
very
a
frugal
upgrade
at
that
point,
and
so
we're
looking
to
really
make
some
substantial
changes
to
our
system
so
that
we
can
become
more
efficient,
operate
at
a
better
situation
for
all
those
involved
with
the
financial
system
of
the
city
and
also
the
the
community
members
that
are
looking
to
you
know
make
payments
through
the
city's
financial
system.
C
We
have
noticed
much
more
attempts
at
fraud
as
well
and
hackers
trying
to
get
into
our
system,
so
this
this
upgrade
would
also
improve
our
security
situation
and
storage
and
make
our
our
system
just
more
efficient.
It's
on
board,
with
making
this
change
as
well
for
hosting
remote
hosting
of
our
financial
assist
situation
and
software,
and
it
would
allow
for
much
more
efficient
upgrades
in
the
future
to
our
system
and
obviously,
definitely
more
security
as
well,
and
so
the
original
project
was
150
thousand
dollars.
A
D
I
mean
it
must
be
valuable
if
I
know
steve
hates
adding
to
our
debt.
So
if
he's
asking
for
more
like
especially
in
the
next
revolution,
he
was
putting
his
memos
that
listen,
we're
hitting
the
debt
limit
and
we
gotta
start
paying
things
down.
So
it
kind
of
is
a
testament
at
to
steve's
perceived
value
that
he's
even
asking
for
this.
What's
how
quickly
would
things
be
implemented
such
that
the
public
could
start
maybe
moving
their
transactions
online
or
paying
their
credit
cards.
C
Yeah,
so
we
were
hopeful
that
it
would
be
this
time
period
right
april
and
may,
where
we're
looking
for,
but
due
to
covid19,
has
post
kind
of
deferred
our
start
date,
but
we're
still
looking
at
the
august
time
frame
for
this
to
go
online
and,
and
so
improvements
would
start
in
august
and
continue
throughout
the
rest
of
the
year
utility
billing,
and
that
system
would
not
happen
for
until
like
march
of
2021,
but
tax
collections,
credit
improvements
and
a
number
of
other
capital
projects
would
all
be
in
in
on
a
start
date
up
and
running
in
the
august
time
period
as
long
as
everything
goes
as
we
have
planned.
C
Currently,
we
are
also
it's
a
little
more
difficult
because
we
are
in
transition
in
the
chamberlain's
office,
looking
at
a
a
retirement
of
the
chamberlain.
So
that
also
makes
this
a
little
more
difficult,
but
I
think
in
the
end
this
upgrade
will
allow
us
to
become
more
efficient,
we'll
secure
our
financial
data
much
more
improved
than
it
is
currently,
it
will
allow
us
to
be
able
to
do
more
things
remotely
for
the
city
staff,
so
less
need
for
someone
in-house.
C
So
it
kind
of
all
goes
along
with
you
know,
what's
currently
happening
in
the
and
the
look
at
a
new
at
a
new
workforce
as
we
move
forward
in
a
work
environment
for
both
the
community
member
and
and
city
staff.
D
D
Just
real
quick,
the
the
merchant
fee
do
we
eat
that,
or
is
that
something
passed
on
like
a
lot
of
municipal
payment
things
like
charge,
the
user
convenience
fee
if
they
want
to
pay
by
credit
card
or
something
do
you
know
how
they
work
in
regard
to
that.
C
Yeah
well
so
we're
still,
I
mean
we'll
be
working
through
that
situation,
but
currently,
as
things
are
right
now
before
we
made
this
upgrade,
that
convenient
fee
is,
is
pushed
off
to
the
to
the
user.
At
this
point,
we'll
have
to
look
to
see
what
it
really
means
and
if
we
can
absorb
any
of
that,
I'm
not
sure
we'll
also
be
looking
at
negotiating
trying
to
make
that
convenience
fee
a
little
less
burdensome
on
the
community
member
too.
If,
if
we
go
that
direction
so
they're
we're
still
working
that
out
actually.
A
J
George
steve,
the
I
assume
the
annual
hosting
fee
is
money
paid
to
tyler
technology.
C
So
so
they
actually
take
our
full
financial
system
and
and
take
it
off
of
the
city
system
and
they
totally
secure
it.
Take
care
of
it
upgrade
main
maintain
it.
So
there's
a
lot,
that's
involved
there
and
takes
that
whole
burden
off
of
city
staff
and
I.t
staff
as
well.
So
that's
that's.
What's
involved
there.
C
Then
it's
on
them,
but
they
they
have
many
many
clients
on
this
system
and
they
haven't
had
issues
where
they've
seen.
Issues
is
where
they
don't
currently
host
the
financial
data,
and
it's
been
hacked
they've
had
at
least
10
sites
municipal
sites
to
have
been
hacked
in
their
financial
data
and
that's
a
very
costly
situation
for
the
to
municipality.
C
I
The
space
bar
didn't
work.
I
don't
know
why
I'll
echo
dubstep's
comment
there.
If
you're
asking
for
this,
it
must
be
really
important
at
this
time,
but
I
did
have
a
question
so
you
mentioned
some
cost
savings
there,
and
then
you
just
mentioned
also
the
staff
time
that
might
be
saved
with
this
hosting.
I
But
I
I
want
to
just
get
some
reassurance
that
when
this
is
rolled
out
I
mean
there
will
be,
I
think,
significant
benefit
to
the
public
and
be
able
to
do
this
online.
But
this
is
a
definitely
tried
and
resilient
system.
I
mean
we
here
in
the
newspapers,
so
many
systems
new
systems
rolled
out
and
then
as
soon
as
people
get
on
they
crash
because
they're
not
ready.
I
So
if
we
roll
this
out
you're
confident
that
it's
going
to
be
working
from
kind
of
from
day,
one
kind
of
thing
is
that
right.
C
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
I'm
very
confident
that
that
will
be
the
case
and
obviously
we'll
be
we'll
be
going
back
and
forth
to
make
sure
all
those
measures
are
in
place
that
we
don't
have
that
issue
where
it
crashes
and
so
that
will
take.
You
know
it's
complicated,
but
will
be
very
important
that
it
happens
that
way.
But,
yes,
I'm
very
confident
in
our
software
vendor
that
they've.
C
You
know
that
this
is
a
very
secure
and
stable
environment
and
I
think
it's
much
more
stable
and
and
secure
than
we
currently
are
where
we
currently
are
situated.
A
Great
any
other
questions
you
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you,
steve,
thank
you.
So
then
I'll
just
move
3.5,
because
it's
just
essentially
passing
our
bond
resolution
forward
to
council.
A
So
I'll
just
ask
for
a
second
on
our
butt
rob.
Thank
you,
then,
just
really
quickly.
We've
got
the
hector
street
complete
street
south
albany
street
bridge
pump
improvements,
the
waste
water
treatment
facility,
cascadilla,
creek,
dredging
and
upgrades
to
the
financial
system,
which
is
what
we
are
going
to
be
bonding
officially.
So
any
questions
on
that
this
is
essentially
we've
already
approved
all
these
things.
This
is
just
the
authorization
so
that
steve
can
go
through
the
actual
borrowing
of
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
borrow
for
so
any
questions
on
that.
C
Yeah,
do
you
want
me
to
comment,
or
should
I
just.
A
You
can
comment
if
you
want.
We've
got
budget
update
also
on
here,
so
you
can
comment,
you
can
do
it
all
now
and
then
or
you
can
pass
it
off
to
the
other
steve
thayer.
That's
a
meaning.
C
C
Yeah,
just
just
a
just
a
couple
comments
yeah:
this
is,
you
know
our
annual.
We
do
this
twice
twice
a
year,
and
this
is
everything
the
council
has
approved
up
unto
this
date.
The
one
concern
we
kind
of
had
was
the
market
condition,
obviously
because
of
covet
19.
C
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
interest
rates
while
they've
been
very
volatile
at
this
point,
have
have
seemed
to
calm
down
now,
because
I
can
tell
you
that
the
interest
rates
were
like
a
1.4
on
january
and
then
they
spiked
to
about
a
2.8
early
march
and
now
they've
dropped
down
to
about
a
1.2
percent
here
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
and
so
the
market,
the
investors
are
feeling
more
confident
than
they
were
about
a
month
ago.
C
Obviously,
there's
more
stability,
stability
in
the
market,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
you
know
the
federal
stimulus
funds
have
impacted
and
infections
of
covid's
seem
to
have
peaked
in
some
areas,
so
the
market
and
investors
are
more
confident.
So
the
the
market
itself
is
is
more
stable
and
hopefully
will
prove
to
us
when
we
go
out
to
to
sell
these
bonds
that
we'll
we'll
get
a
very
good
rate,
so
we're
we're.
That
was
the
one
concern
we
had,
but
it
seems
to
be
right
now
that
things
are
calm.
C
Of
course
we
know
things
can
change
quickly
in
this
environment,
but
hopefully
that
will
stay
stay
that
way
until
we
sell
our
sell
our
bonds.
A
M
Trying
to
unm,
okay,
I'm
sorry
good
evening,
everyone,
I
did
send
an
update
earlier
today
to
everyone
regarding
our
reinstatement
policy.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any
questions
about
that,
but
you
can
you
can
email
me
or
ask
now.
E
M
You're
welcome
and
we
will
provide
that
every
week
as
there
is
activity.
A
D
C
Yeah,
so
I
just
you
know
I
I
thought
it
was
good
to
just
give
you
updates
and
during
these
meetings,
just
because
things
they
do
change,
although
not
so
quickly,
as
you
know,
with
our
estimates,
because
it's
so
difficult
to
make
estimates
at
this
time
when
you,
when
you
have
so
much
uncertainty
moving
forward,
but
just
just
quickly
on
some
updates.
Just
so
you
have
the
information
that
we
have
currently
so
shelly
mentioned.
C
You
know
our
the
fact
that
we
have
obviously
a
number
of
city
employees
on
furlough,
and
so
we
with
everyone
on
furlough,
we
would
be
saving
roughly
75
ish
thousand
dollars
a
week
when
that
occurs
now
the
first
couple
weeks,
we're
not
quite
saving
that
much
because
we
did
offer
up
some
bridge
money
from
to
each
individual
that
was
on
furlough
through
their
own
time,
accruals
and
so
most
most
people
that
were
on
furlough
took
that
money
and
that
was
to
basically
bridge
them
to
the
to
the
point
of
where
they
get
their
unemployment
funds.
C
So
hopefully
that
will
take
care
of
that.
But
so
we've
seen
we've
seen
some
savings.
C
Now
we're
roughly
about
two
weeks
into
furlough,
where
I
think
we've
saved
in
the
payroll,
and
that
includes
payroll
taxes
and
everything
and
includes
the
fact
that
we've,
I
think
we
spent
eighty
four
thousand
dollars
the
first
week
on
the
bridge,
the
bridge
money
we've
saved
about
just
under
sixty
thousand
dollars
so
far
with
the
furlough
activity
and,
of
course,
we'll
be
looking
at
that
weekly
and
making
changes
to
who's
on
furlough
as
a
result
of
that,
so
that's
kind
of
the
employment
picture.
C
In
addition,
we
are
looking
at
obviously
significant
sales
tax
losses.
We
will
really
see
the
impact
of
those
losses
next
month,
because
that
that
will
be
reflective.
C
Our
our
june
collections
will
be
reflective
of
may
act,
a
lot
of
the
may
activity
and
and
some
april,
so
those
collections
will
really
be
impacted
next
next
month,
but
so
far
to
date,
we're
roughly
about
305
thousand
dollars
short
of
where
we
thought
we
would
be
at
this
point
in
time
as
a
result
of
the
covet,
so
obviously
significant
changes
there
and
more
to
come.
C
C
So
with
those
losses
we
were
in
the
neighborhood
of
about
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
so
far
in
losses
in
parking,
and
that
includes
all
both
meters
on
street
and
off
street
in
the
garages.
So
that's
significant
at
this
point
in
time.
C
C
In
addition,
trash
tags
which
were
offline
for
a
period
of
time
now
just
back
online
we're
showing
about
about
a
65
000
loss
there.
At
this
point.
C
And
the
one
bright
spot
is
the
building
permit
fees,
and
I
think
I
talked
about
this
before
but
we're
you
know:
we've
already
collected
over
a
million
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
building
permit
fees.
So
that's
the
one
area,
development
that
looks
like
it's
continuing
to
be
a
good
area
and
a
solid
area,
because
the
planning
is
talking
about
additional
development
activity
coming
forth
in
the
future.
C
The
inspections
other
than
building
permits
the
inspections
and
built
in
the
building
department.
Those
fees
are
are,
are
down
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
far,
but
offset
some
of
that
by
the
the
building
permits.
So
that's
the
one
area
that
looks
to
be
positive
is
at
this
point
in
time.
In
addition,
you
know
we
have
state
aid
budgeted
for
about
two
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
C
The
state
has
said
that
that
they'll
look
at
their
budget
every
few
months
and
make
changes
to
that
budget
if
necessary.
We're
waiting
to
hear
any
impact.
C
We're
supposed
to
hear
in
may,
but
I
have
heard
that
the
state
has
to
make
to
make
up
for
some
of
their
deficit
they
they're
now
holding
on
to
those
state
aid
payments
for
the
last
couple
for
the
next
couple
months,
so
they
they
won't
allow
those
payments
to
be
paid
to
to
the
municipalities.
C
The
one
good
thing
for
the
city
is:
we
don't
see
our
first
state
a
payment
until
september,
normally
so,
maybe
at
by
that
time,
the
federal
aid
that
is
a
possibility,
will
come
and
and
help
us
out
there,
but
we
we're
not
sure,
but
we
we
are
looking
at
at
least
probably
a
20
percent
loss
in
state
aid,
if
not
more
than
that,
so
I
can't
think
of
anything
else.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
the
picture
as
we
sit
here
right
now.
C
Obviously
the
impacts.
You
know
we
made
changes
to
the
budget.
We
may
need
to
make
further
changes.
It
really
depends
on.
You
know
this.
What
happens
at
the
federal
level?
Obviously
you
know
that
the
house
passed
past
the
most
recent
stimulus
bill,
but
the
senate
has
many
issues
with
it.
There's
a
a
group.
That's
looking
to
make
some
other
changes
to
that
bill
to
hopefully
bring
about
some
federal
aid
to
municipalities,
so
we're
really
hopeful
for
that,
but
we
probably
wouldn't
see
that
for
another
month,
at
least.
C
In
addition,
you
know
keeping
our
fingers
crossed,
that
the
colleges
come
back
for
fall.
We
we
do
know
that
ic
is
planning
on
returning
october
5th
a
little
delayed,
but
still
they
are
returning
in
person
if
everything
goes
as
planned
and
we're
not
sure
about
cornell
at
this
point
in
time.
So
that
would
be
a
very
good
and
positive
impact
to
to
the
cities
as
a
whole.
C
If
we're
able
to
get
those
students
back
in
in
the
city
or
in
the
town
by
by
fall
so
we'll
have
to
see
but
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainties
and,
of
course,
we're
starting
to
look
at
the
2021
budget
and
what
the
impacts
hold
for
us.
C
Everything
is
very,
very
uncertain
at
this
time,
so
it
looks
like
negative
impacts
on
2021
as
well
as
we
try
to
work
our
way
out
of
the
recovery
which,
obviously,
we
know,
has
started
in
phases
and
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
works
itself
out
as
we
move
forward,
but
certainly
it's
almost
100
percent
guarantee
that
things
will
not
be
the
way
they
were
back
in
january
when
january,
when
we
were
looking
like
everything
was
at
a
good
point
for
us
financially.
A
A
We
may
have
to
prepare
for
our
budget
meetings
to
be
performed
this
way
versus
in
person,
so
I
guess
we'll
be
seeking
guidance
or
input
on
what
that
could
look
like
if
we
have
to
do
them
this
way.
I
think
we'll
we'll
all
be
used
to
this
format
by
then,
but
I
know
part
of
the
budget
process
is
being
able
to
talk
things
through
and
and
we're
looking
at
a
lot
of
detailed
information
and
whatnot.
A
So
I
don't
need
an
answer
from
everyone
now,
but
if
you
have
any
any
thoughts
on
what
information
you
might
need
how
we
might
be
able
to
share
that
information
with
you,
we
did
realize
we
have
to
get
the
budget
dates
out
to
everyone.
We
have
them.
I
don't
know
that
we've
sent
them
broadly
to
everyone
yet
so
just
start
thinking
about
what
what
our
budget
meeting
could
be
if
we
have
to
transfer
it
to
this
format,
so
anything
else,
cynthia.
K
I
have
a
a
question
for
steve,
so
you've
listed
quite
a
few
areas
where
we're
not
receiving
revenue
that
we
typically
have
received
and
and
a
minimal
amount
of
savings
with
regards
to
the
the
impacts
of
of
furloughs.
K
C
Flow,
so
right
now
cash
flow
is
is,
is
fine.
We
typically
see
our
lowest
cash
flow
time
period
right
about
december,
so
we
would
expect
that
with
the
obviously
less
cash
coming
in
that
we
would
see
probably
that
cash
flow
negative
impact
a
little
earlier
than
december.
C
So
we
we
came
into
this
with
you
know,
a
pretty
solid
fund
balance,
so
we'll
really
have
to
just
see
but
right
right
at
the
moment
we
are
okay
and
our
projections
show
that
we
should
be
okay
until
till
the
november
time
period
and
then
we'll
we'll
take
a
look.
C
There
are
there
is
some
movement
through
some
proposals
to
look
at
deficiency
notes
that
would
allow
municipalities
to
to
help
out
their
budgets
there's
other
tools
as
well,
but
proposals
to
to
allow
us
to
go
out
in
in
you
know,
issue
one
year
notes
or
longer
to
help
us
out
with
this
shortage
of
cash
flow.
If
it
comes
to
that,
so
we
have
a
number
of
tools
in
the
you
know
in
our
pocket,
but
right
now
it
appears
that
we
should
be
okay
until
about
the
november
time
period
as
far
as
cash
flow.
A
K
Ahead
cynthia,
so
I
guess
just
I'm
always
about
having
backup
plans,
I
don't
know
how
long
it
takes
to
put
together
a
note.
I
know
it
takes
quite
a
bit
to
go
out
onto
the
market,
and
if
this
is
something
that
legislatively,
we
could
allow
to
be
put
into
place
so
that
if
and
when
needed,
it
would
be
ready
to
go.
You
know
I'm
presuming
it
would
take
something
like
at
the
very
soonest.
Maybe
a
two-month
lead
time
or
a
three-month
lead
time
is
that
correct?
K
C
Yeah,
so
it's
generally
about
a
six
six
week-ish
time
period
that
that
it
takes
to
get
this
all
in
place
by
the
time
you
do
all
the
documentation
and
then,
by
the
time
you
get
the
cash.
We
have
to
kind
of
wait
and
see
these
proposals
for
additional
tools
for
municipalities
or
have
been
proposed
and
they're
at
the
state
level
and
so
far
haven't
been
really
talked
about
too
much.
But
I
think,
as
as
this
continues
to
move
forward
and
municipalities
find
themselves
in
a
more
dire
situation.
C
If
that's
the
case,
I
think
these
things
will
be
brought
to
the
forefront
and
probably
act
acted
upon
to
allow
us
to
have
more
tools.
But
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying-
and
we
definitely
obviously
are
monitoring
the
situation
and
we'll
as
soon
as
we
think
and
project
it.
You
know
things
might
turn
even
worse
for
us
that
will
start
putting
these
things
in
place.
So
hopefully
we
don't
have
to
use
tho
these
items,
but
it
you
know.
C
Obviously
everything
is
on
the
table
at
this
point
in
time
to
try
to
get
us
through
this
difficult
situation.
J
Sorry
I'll
write
something
up,
but
I'm
I'd
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
police
department
at
next
month's.
J
E
Yeah,
I
just
thought
deb
you
and
I
had
the
conversation
about
the
ongoing
review
of
the
rules
of
procedures
and
thought
it
would
be
a
little
more
difficult
in
this
format
and
we
just
thought
we'd
take
a
little
break
from
it.
But
if
we're
going
to
continue
in
this
format
for
a
while
right,
I
want
to
consider
a
way
to
make
that
so
I'll.
Try
to
think
about
that.
A
Okay,
even
if
you
wanted
to
do
the
the
the
concept
that
you
had
where
we
were
taking
it
section
by
section,
you
know
maybe
even
map
that
out
and
say
all
right,
we'll
just
cover
this
small
chunk
in
in
june,
and
I
don't
know,
do
we
need
anything
in
our
rules
of
procedure
about
remote
meeting
because
we
didn't
have
anything
in
there.
So
maybe
there
are
things
we
want
to.
We
want
to
add
or
consider
I
don't
know
it's.
E
A
G
G
I
I
And
so,
if
there's
anything
that
you
know,
we
can
look
at
or
or
try
and
improve,
especially
as
you
say,
if
we're
going
to
have
this
format,
for
let's
say
two
or
three
months
more,
I
just
feel
like
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
improve
that
it
would
be
really
helpful.
A
A
I
know
that
there
are
certain
levels
of
zoom
where
you
can
require
registration,
so
maybe
there's
a
public
hearing
where
people
have
to
register.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
register
weeks
in
advance,
you
just
sort
of
have
to
register,
and
then
we
can
work
through
everyone.
That
way,
I
don't
know
we'll
have
to
think
about
it,
because
I
know
it
does
feel
weird
to
just
get
emails
and
then
summarize
them
and
and
it
it
feels
like
we're
not
really
capable
of
including
the
public
in
the
ways
that
we
had
been
in
the
past.
A
B
Yeah,
I
guess
just
to
offer
an
alternative
viewpoint.
I
mean
I
I
did
talk
to
to
some
people
who
feel
like
the
way.
The
public
comment
happened
at
the
last
common
council
meeting
was
actually
in
some
ways
more
democratic,
because
you
know
there
are
people
who
don't
feel
comfortable
coming
to
a
common
council
meeting
or
who
come
to
a
common
council
meeting
or
if
they,
if
they
hold
a
minority
viewpoint.
B
If
there's,
let's
just
say,
for
example,
that
there's
50
people
who
are
opposed
to
5g
and
only
three
people
who
are
in
favor
of
it.
The
three
people
in
favor
may
not
feel
comfortable
coming
and
speaking
in
favor,
but
it's
it
feels
less
intimidating
to
submit
comments
and
have
them
summarize
so
that
that's
that's
one
thing
but
but
we
could
also
certainly
do
I
mean
we
learned
a
little
bit
from
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
meeting
where
people
were.
You
know,
unfortunately,
trying
to
talk
off
topic.
B
I
did
talk
to
some
of
the
folks
from
planning
who
have
done
more
public
hearings
and
they
tend
to
do
a
little
bit
more
screening
and
pre-registration
so
that
they
know
ahead
of
time,
who's
going
to
show
up
and
and
they
can
make
sure
that
they,
you
know
that
that
they're
admitted
to
the
to
the
to
the
room
knowing
ahead
of
time.
You
know
that
they're
there
to
speak
on
the
public
hearing.
A
And
then
yeah
it
may
be
annoying
for
us,
but
maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
have
the
public
comment.
Slash
public
hearing,
piece
of
the
budget,
sort
of
a
separate
entity
where
you
register,
and
then
we
can
move
into
a
meeting
where
just
counsel
and
staff
are
present,
and
then
you
can
do
that
live
you
know
on
zoom
as
well.
I
just
feel
like
it
will
be.
A
It
would
be
hard
to
manage
a
meet
a
budget
meeting
at
the
same
time
we're
trying
to
manage
people
coming
and
going
from
from
the
meeting
so
we'll
think
about
it
any
and
if
any
of
you
have
been
on
any
platforms
or
in
any
meetings
or
presentations,
where
you
feel
there
was
technology
that
worked
really
well
for
something
like
that.
You
know
please
let
us
know
we
can.
We
can
always
be
better
at
this.
E
Well,
I
mean
I
we're
using
zoom
pretty
effectively
as
a
sort
of
more
of
a
one-way
webinar
style
on
south
hill
and
but
it,
but
I
would
say
it
really
does
require
some
people
behind
the
scenes
playing
like
the
television
director
role
than
someone
who's
trying
to
also
participate
in
the
meeting,
and
that
that
just
recognizes
that
there
is
another
role
that
we
might
have
to
figure
out.
How
to
slip
in
right.
A
Yeah-
and
I
know
there
are
also
ways
to
separate
participants
into
panelists
and
like
watchers
or
something
so
that
could
be
another
way
to
look
at
it,
although
I'm
not
sure
what
kind
of
licensing
we
have
for
zoom
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
add
a
giant
cost
to
the
city
in
order
to
be
at
that
level.
So,
okay,
these
are
all
good
things
for
us
to
take
into
consideration.