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From YouTube: December 21, 2020 City Administration Committee Meeting
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A
Okay,
great
welcome
this
is
our
last
city
administration
committee
meeting
of
2020
we're
making
it
out
we
survived
being
on
zoom.
I
believe
we'll
still
be
on
this
venue
for
the
foreseeable
future,
but
here
we
are,
we
have
what
I
hope
is
a
fairly
concise
agenda
for
this
evening.
I
just
want
to
ask
if
there
are
any
modifications
to
the
agenda
that
anybody
wants
to
make.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
no
response
from
council,
but
I
will
give
the
floor
to
council
if
anybody
wants
to
make
an
announcement
or
say
anything
before
we
get
started
with
the
meeting
nope.
Okay,
all
right.
E
I'll
say
another
thing:
boy,
healthcare
is
amazing.
I
mean
I'm
hoping
it's
going
to
be
this
kind
of
accessible
for
everybody,
because
it
truly
was
amazing
to
to
see
the
the
system
kind
of
go
into
gear
and
and
deal
with
this
completely
unforeseen
problem.
I
mean
people
were
just
amazing,
not
just
their
skills,
but
their
attitudes
and
stuff
were
really
great,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
on
council
for
the
concern
and
messages
of
support
makes
a
huge
difference.
So
it's
really
great
to
be
back.
A
All
here
we
have
a
few
items
on
consent.
Does
someone
want
to
move
that
rob?
Is
there
a
second
gram,
all
those
in
favor
of
our
consent
items
and
that
carries
unanimously?
Thank
you
all
right.
So
our
first
voting
item
this
evening
is
an
application
for
the
main
street
program
for
downtown
ithaca
alliance.
Does
someone
want
to
move
that
rob?
Thank
you.
G
F
Whereas
the
new
york
main
street
program
was
created
by
the
new
york
state
division
of
housing
and
community
renewal
hcr,
to
provide
financial
resources
for
the
revitalization
of
downtown
districts
through
new
york
state
and
whereas
the
new
york
state
main
street
program
requires
that
qualified
administrator
applicants
propose
applications
on
behalf
of
specific
projects
in
eligible
districts
and
whereas
downtown
ithaca
qualifies
as
an
eligible
district
for
mainstream
grant
awards.
Due
to
its
demographic
statistics
and
its
designation
as
an
iura
target
area.
F
And
whereas
the
owners
of
these
properties
are
aware
that
units
rehabilitated
under
this
program
are
required
to
lease
units.
At
no
more
than
90
ami
for
the
ithaca
area
for
a
period
of
five
years,
and
whereas
the
downtown
ithaca
alliance
has
successfully
been
awarded
previous
new
york
state
main
street
awards
to
assist
projects
in
the
downtown
ithaca
district
and
is
prepared
to
meet
the
january
15
2021
deadline
for
application
submission
and
whereas
the
final
composition
of
the
application
will
primarily
include
several
housing
projects
from
eligible
downtown
properties.
F
Whereas
the
maximum
main
street
program
award
is
500,
000
and
the
dia
application
will
be
within
within
but
close
to,
the
500
000
award
limit
and
whereas
the
new
york
state
main
street
program
requires
that
elected
elected
municipal
body,
ithaca
common
council
pass
a
resolution
supporting
an
application
to
the
main
street
program
and
said.
Resolution
should
be
included
in
the
submitted
application.
A
B
Sure,
thanks
dev
yeah,
there's
a
dia
board
meeting
happening
right
now
as
well,
so
gary
and
chris
couldn't
make
it
and
I'm
missing
that
meeting,
but
I'm
happy
to
stand
in
and
tell
you
what
I
know
about
the
grant
application
this
would
be
our
fifth
time
applying
for
and
if
we're
successful,
receiving
main
street
grant
funds.
You
know
the
state
announced
the
program
very
late
this
year
and
applications
are
due
january
15th,
so
the
dia
has
been
taking
the
lead
in
reaching
out
to
property
owners
and
identifying
candidates
for
an
application.
B
We
anticipate
that
there'll
be
somewhere
between
four
and
five
properties
included
in
the
past.
We've
received
this
for
the
anchor
project
category.
This
would
be
more
of
the
renovation
of
multiple
buildings
category
and
currently
the
properties
that
have
been
identified
are
upper
story,
housing
units
that
are
either
vacant
or
in
need
of
renovation.
B
That
would
would
be
renovated.
This
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
and
really
in
order
to
be
competitive
for
this
program,
there
needs
to
be
an
inclusion
of
housing,
and
so
that
that
is
the
focus
the
via
reached
out
to
a
number.
B
E
Hi
tom
thanks
for
just
outlining
the
program
there,
so
it's
my
understanding
correct,
so
the
properties
have
to
be
in
the
bid
district
right
in
the
business
improvement
district.
Is
that
correct.
B
It
doesn't
have
to
be
in
the
bid
boundary
itself,
but
it
does
have
to
be
a
tight
geographic
area.
Okay,
and
so
we
did.
We
did
reach
out
to
a
few
property
owners
slightly
outside
the
bid
for
potential
interest,
and
but
again
the
focus
really
needs
to
be
on
housing
to
be
competitive,
and
so
currently,
all
of
the
properties
that
have
been
identified
are
within
the
bid.
E
E
Program
for
restoring
and
renovating
housing
downtown.
Could
you
just
give
me
one
or
two
examples
of
you
said
previous:
this
is
the
fourth
kind
of
route
or
fifth
round
of
this
could
could
you
give
us
a
couple
of
examples
of
the
properties
that
have
benefited
from
this
program?.
B
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
I'm
only
able
to
speak
to
the
most
recent
ones
that
I'm
sure
personally,
but
in
the
last
two
rounds
I
believe
press
bay
court
and
the
the
the
press,
the
the
former
ithaca
journal
building.
That
was
an
anchor
project
in
partnership
with
john
guttridge
and
then
the
masonic
temple
was
an
anchor
project
veteranship
with
ithaca
renting.
So
those
are.
Those
are
two
past
projects
immediate
past
that
have
been
supported
by
this
program.
B
Yeah
yeah
and
the
the
press
bay
court
included
housing
as
well
as
renovation
of
from
you
know,
micro,
retail
spaces
and
offices.
D
Tom
do
we
know
when
these
awards
are
made
like
how
long
from
now.
B
That's
a
good
question,
george!
I
I
don't
I
don't
know.
I
would
imagine
that
it's
a
a
several
month
turnaround,
but
I
do
not
have.
I
don't
have
that
calendar
right
in
front
of
me
and
but
I'd
be
happy
to
see
if
the
state
provided
that
and
dig
that
out
before
we
come
back
to
the
full
council,
I
I
don't
anticipate
that
it
would
be
a
terribly
long.
You
know
window
of
delay.
I
would
imagine
sometime
in
2021,.
B
Sure
yeah,
the
only
the
only
scenario.
Well
I
mean
we
didn't.
This
is
like
the
only
state
program
that
seems
like
it's
out
there
right
now.
Almost
the
cfa
was
canceled
this
year.
This
would
normally
have
been
in
the
cfa
in
july,
but
the
state
did
decide
to
do
a
small
round
this
year.
They
announced
the
program
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
it's
a
very,
very
tight
window,
less
money,
so
we're
trying
to
pull
together
a
competitive
application.
B
So
in
terms
of
the
state
funding,
I
think
the
state
will
fund
you
know,
probably
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
12,
to
15
applications
statewide
based
on
our
you
know,
estimate
of
in
the
the
average
award
and
available
funding
and
in
terms
of
construction.
You
know
unless,
unless
construction
itself
is,
is
put
on
pause,
as
we
did
in
march
and
april
for
non-essential
construction-
and
you
know
we-
we
have
seen
construction
projects
continue
to
move
forward.
A
F
F
Do
you
know
if
it'll
be
far
enough
along
where
we'll
hear
any
more
details
about
it?
At
the
council
meeting.
B
Hope,
hopefully,
although
you
know
we'll,
see
we're
we're
working
to
pull
it
together
now
but
yeah.
I
asked
gary
that
very
same
question
this
afternoon
and
given
given
where
they
are.
It's
it's
possible,
but
we
can't
promise
that
at
this
point,
there's
just
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
It's
a
very
detailed
application.
We
have
to
have
all
the
project
details
for
each
of
the
different
projects
and
have
to
get
that
from
the
properties
themselves.
So
we'll
do
our
best,
though.
A
G
B
A
A
A
A
A
I
Sure
so
this
is
our
first
authorization
for
2021
and
most
of
the
items
in
this
relate
to
the
budget.
Approval
for
2021,
so
most
of
the
capital
projects
make
up
the
the
entire
authorization,
so
the
the
full
amount
is
that
we're
requesting
for
authorization
tonight
is
three
million
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
and
again
I
included
the
list
of
projects
again
and
most
of
that's
from
from
the
the
capital
projects
that
were
approved
and
then,
additionally,
anything
that
was
needed
to
be
approved
from
previous
authorization.
I
Just
a
couple
other
notes
with
this
authorization.
You
know
our
current
debt
outstanding
will
be
around
151
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Next
year
2021
we
will
be
paying
off
principal
a
little
over
eight
million
dollars,
so
that'll
help
bring
bring
that
amount
down.
This
authorization
includes
the
largest
pieces
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
as
they
continue
to
improve
that
facility
on
an
ongoing
basis.
We've
been
doing
that
now
for
several
years
and
again
we
only
pay
the
owner's
portion
of
that.
I
So,
even
though
we
have
to
authorize
the
full
amount,
the
net
amount
for
the
city
is
just
the
the
owner's
amount
percentage
there
for
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
which
is
roughly
about
57
percent.
I
In
addition,
we'll
be
authorizing
or
issuing
other
other
other
debts.
So
the
the
full
amount
of
the
issuance
for
this
particular
sale,
which
will
go
mid
february,
is
about
seven
mil
seven
million
four
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
dollars
and
the
market
right
now
is
pretty
good,
actually
we're,
even
with
kovid.
I
I
I
Hopefully,
the
market
will
still
be
in
good
good
shape
for
this
approval,
so
again
all
the
projects
I
listed
there.
If
you
have
any
questions
on
any
any
of
those
projects,
let
me
know,
but
they
were
all
authorized
and
approved
by
council
previously.
D
Oh
thanks
steve.
I
I'd
just
like
a
reminder
on
d,
which
is
improvements
to
the
transit
system,
that
that
sounds
like
tcat
stuff.
I
Yeah
exactly
so
that
is
our
portion
so
annually
we
do
have
a
city
portion
of
the
capital
activity
at
tcat,
and
so
this
is
what
that
represents.
D
So
that's
in
addition
to
what
we
pay
out
of
operation.
I
Yeah,
so
this
is
in
addition
to
our
operating
appropriation
that
we
make
annually.
A
E
Sure,
thanks
deb,
this
is
approval
of
north
campus
residential
expansion,
transportation
improvements
mou.
So,
whereas
cornell
university
is
in
advanced
stages
of
the
construction
of
the
north
campus
residential
expansion
and
whereas
the
ncre
will
substantially
increase
the
pedestrian
traffic
traveling
north
campus
to
central
campus
and
whereas
the
planning
board
required
cornell
as
a
condition
of
site
plan
approval
to
make
appropriate
transportation
improvements
to
certain
city
streets,
that
would
experience,
said
increased
pedestrian
traffic
and
to
enter
into
an
mou
governing
such
improvements.
E
So
ari,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
any
members
of
the
public
that
may
be
watching
this
is
this
is
basically
in
increasing
sidewalks
in
in
between
north
campus
and
and
central
campus.
Is
that
the
basic
idea
here.
J
Yeah
yeah,
including
crosswalks,
I
think
specifically
yes,
including
raised
crosswalks,
I
believe,
but.
K
J
That's
right:
this
is
about
pedestrian
improvements
around
sidewalks
and
crosswalks
to
make
sure
that
people
can
safely
walk
from
north
campus
to
central
campus
through
what
will
be
is
already
a
very
busy
pedestrian
intersection
and
will
be
even
far
more
so
after
the
ncr
north
campus
residential
expansion
is
completed.
Yeah,
that's
the
objective.
J
You
may
also
remember
that
it's
now,
probably
over
a
year
ago,
for
definitely
over
a
year
ago,
that
council
approved
the
sewer
improvement
mou
under
thurston
avenue,
which
is
also
tied
to
the
mcre
construction
and
there's
also
a
set
of
improvements
that
cornell
will
be
paying
for
and
cornell's.
J
Current
very
tentative
objective
is
to
at
least
try
to
align
the
timing
of
that
sewer
work
with
the
timing
of
this
transportation
improvement
work
so
that
the
disruptions
to
traffic
would
be
all
at
once,
rather
than
sequentially,
which
would
be,
I
think,
better
for
the
public.
But
that's
it's
not
certain
that
that's
how
it
will
happen,
but
the
goal
is
for
both
of
those
to
happen
in
the
coming
year
in
2021
and
hopefully,
at
the
same
time,.
H
Now,
therefore,
being
enacted
by
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
ithaca
as
follows.
The
common
council
makes
the
following
findings.
The
city
anticipates
a
number
of
retirements
of
department,
heads
and
deputy
department
heads
in
the
next
three
to
five
years.
Many
state
employees
hired
since
1996
have
worked
for
the
city
for
years.
H
That
could
be
extremely
disruptive
for
their
families,
and
common
council
believes
it
to
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
to
be
able
to
hire
and
promote
the
most
qualified
and
experienced
candidates
to
department,
head
and
deputy
department
head
positions
and
continue
to
be
committed
to
broad
outreach
to
attract
strong
candidates
with
diverse
backgrounds,
who
will
add
significant
technical
and
cultural
value
to
our
organization
based
on
the
foregoing.
The
intent
of
and
purpose
of
his
local
law
is
eliminate.
The
above
described
presidency
requirement
and
the
usual
some
ability
and
affected
dates
closes.
A
A
What
was
drawn
up
so
I
don't
know
how
much
additional
discussion
we
have
to
have
on
this
other
than
I
know
the
the
second
half
of
it
is
going
to
be
probably
a
much
longer
process
if
we
might
want
to
consider
down
the
road,
some
form
of
incentivizing
or
incentive
program.
That
is
not
the
intent
of
this.
A
I
think
the
intent
of
this
was
to
do
something
so
that
we
could
kind
of
band-aid
and
build
a
bridge
to
working
a
little
more
with
a
little
bit
more
intent
and
research
and
benchmarking
on
what
could
possibly
exist
in
the
future
for
incentivizing
people
to
live
within
the
city
or
within
the
county.
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
questions.
Probably
shelley
is
the
best
person
to
answer
them.
D
I
I
support
the
idea
of
this.
I
guess
I'm
reluctant
to
eliminate
any
kind
of
regional
requirement.
If
you
will
like
contiguous
counties,
makes
sense
to
me.
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
would
be
problematic
if
we
hire
somebody
that
lives
in
buffalo
or
albany
and
they
spend
a
lot
of
their
time
going
back
and
forth.
D
I
realize
you
can
do
a
lot
with
the
computer,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
being
here.
D
L
Right,
george,
we
we
currently
have
staff
in
our
workforce
that
lives
outside
of
contiguous
counties.
Also,
just
so,
you
know,
department,
hedge.
A
Okay,
let's
have
some
well,
let's
not
ignore
what
george
said.
Maybe
we'll
have
just
some
additional
discussion
and
then
see
if
we
we
want
to
make
it
make
any
changes
to
that.
I
had
graham
then
laura
then
rob
and
I've
added.
E
Thanks
deb,
so
shelly,
could
you
clarify
so
if,
if
this
moves
ahead,
so
it
would
just
be
the
fire
department,
then
that
would
have
this
requirement
of
residency,
because
the
exemption
is
for
firefighters.
Is
that
right.
E
Well,
no,
it
says
the
resident's
residency
requirement
is
for
department,
heads
and
deputy
department
heads
with
the
exemption
of
fight
for
firefighters.
So
I'm
not
sure
does
that
mean
all
this
residency
requirement
would
not
apply
to
any
department
heads
moving
forward
right.
L
Right
right,
if,
if,
if
you
go
with
appealing
it,
it
would
not
apply
to
anyone.
E
G
Thanks
deb
thanks
for
letting
me
join
tonight's
meeting,
I
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
this,
and
the
reason
is
we
have
very
talented
staff
in
the
city
and
I
think
it's
important
that
qualified
talented
staff
know
there
are
opportunities
for
promotion
and
invest
and
advancement
if
they
rise
to
the
top
in
a
interview
and
hiring
process,
so
the
opportunity
to
recruit
and
hire
talented
staff,
as
well
as
to
promote
talented
staff.
I
think,
to
my
mind,
argue
for
repeal
of
this
requirement.
G
There
is,
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
discussion
about
incentivizing
living
within
tompkins
county,
and
yet
I
don't
think
to
my
mind,
it
is
a
good
idea
to
penalize
someone
who
works
for
the
city
and
lives
in
jason
county,
even
a
contiguous
county.
If
we
talk
about
george's
suggestion
from
the
possibility
of
promotion
in
the
future,
this
came
up.
G
I
was
on
a
search
for
the
dpw
streets
and
facilities
and,
as
we
have
in
the
city,
a
number
of
retirements
coming
up
and
if
there
are
strong
qualified
applicants
in
the
applicant
pool
who
are
current
city
staff
members,
I
would
not
want
them
to
be
excluded
from
consideration,
and
I
believe
mike
thorne
indicated
that
all
of
the
applicants
there
were
four
applicants,
as
I
recall,
for
the
streets
and
facilities
assistant
superintendent
in
dpw.
G
F
Yeah
I'll
just
add
my
voice
of
support
and
my
colleagues
have
expressed
many
of
the
points
already,
but
I'll
just
add
one
more,
which
is
I
I
do
think
you
know
there
was
a
time
when
we
thought
that
there
was
value
in
having
someone
who
worked
for
the
city
to
live
in
the
city
right
and-
and
I
think
for
many
of
the
reasons
that
we're
outlining.
F
We
realize
that
it
may
limit
our
ability
to
recruit
and
promote
people,
and
so
we
want
to
be
careful
with
that.
But
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
sight
of
what
that
value
is,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
good
programs
in
place
to
hold
our
employees
accountable
to
the
benefits
of
knowing
the
community.
Well
enough,
and
sometimes
living
in
the
community
is
a
great
way
to
do
that.
But
I
don't
I
don't
think
that
means
we
should
hold
them
accountable
to
live
here.
F
F
Maybe
shelly
has
some
examples
of
how
we're
already
doing
this
well
and
if
there's
any
things
that
we
can
do
to
help
improve
on
that.
Just
to
do
that,
and-
and
I
think
we
all
recognize-
that
as
we're
working
in
a
virtual
environment
that
there
may
be
people
who
can
do
their
roles
virtually
and
and
let's
not
lose
sight
of,
if
the
best
person
for
the
role
might
live
in
albany
and
might
commute
here
a
couple
days
a
week,
but
work
remotely
the
other
three.
F
L
Yeah,
no
rob,
I
think
you
actually
raise
a
very
good
point.
I
I
don't
think
it's
sort
of
where
you
live.
It's.
What
are
the
expectations
that
we
have
and
how
do
we,
you
know,
hold
our
our
people
accountable
for
that
so
you're
you're
certainly
right
on
on
target,
and
I-
and
I
think
too
that.
L
L
So
it's
just
us
keeping
sort
of
that
that
sort
of
approach
to
how
we
do
things
and-
and
I
I
and
I
think,
we've
talked
about
this
too
in
terms
of
the
the
engagement
survey
that
we
did.
It
talked
a
lot
about
accountability.
I
think
there's
still
work
that
needs
if
there
is
still
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
that
area,
and
I
think
council
has
to
hold
us
the
staff
to
ensuring
that
we
follow
through
and
and
put
the
systems
in
place.
That
will
support
what
we
say.
L
The
outcome
is
that
we
desire
and
that's
to
have
all
of
our
staff
come
in
learn
the
community
learn
as
much
as
they
can,
whether
they
live
here
or
not
so
that
they
can
sort
of
they
can
live
in
the
shoes
of
the
people
who
live
here,
even
if
they
don't
physically
live
here.
They
get
to
know
the
community,
well
enough
and
and
and
then
they
can,
you
know,
sort
of
they
can
be
representative
and
provide
services
with
the
community
in
mind
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
operate
operationalize
it.
F
And
if
I
could
just
add
one
more
point
to
that,
which
is
you
know,
we
have
this
structure
and
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
pretty
talented
people
in
these
roles
to
help
run
the
city
and
they'll.
As
we
all
know,
not
everyone
stays
in
those
roles
forever
right.
So
at
some
point
we
have
to
think
about.
F
You
know
how
we,
how
did
we,
you
know,
succeed
there,
and
you
know
we
also
have
a
system
where
the
mayor
it
oversees
all
these
roles
and
our
mayor
technically
is
a
part-time,
funded
position.
So
it's
an
interesting
dynamic
that
we've
created,
and
here
we
are
setting
up
a
system
that
really
relies
on
us
holding
work
for
the
city,
but
our
structure
doesn't
always
match
that,
depending
on
on
how
people
are
filling
the
roles.
A
F
H
Yeah
I
was
going
to
make
some
of
the
points
that
raptors
made
in
answers
to
george's
question.
That
part
of
it
would
be
the
job
description
when
we,
when
we
search
to
fill
these
positions,
is
to
make
it
clear.
You
know,
depending
on
the
position
whether
they
are
expected
to
be
on
site
and
then
that
accountability
thing
plays
into
you
know
we
don't
have
the
higher
fire
decision
powers,
but
you
know
when
we
asked
if
we
asked
mike
thorne
questions
about
the
city
and
he
had
no
idea
what
the
answer
was.
H
I
think
we'd
all
have
a
problem
with
that,
and
so
it
comes
out
pretty
quickly
because
we
are
very
inquisitive
about
things,
and
so
I
think
it
will
become
obvious
and
and
that
frustration
or
or
happiness
with
the
answers
we
get
will
flow
to
the
mayor,
whoever
that
is
at
the
time.
So
I
feel
okay
with
with
eliminating
those
requirements,
because
we
really
do
want
to
recruit
the
best
that
we
can
get
and
again,
depending
on
the
requirements
of
the
job.
H
The
person
may
be
very
clear
to
the
person
as
they're,
applying
that
I
gotta
move
to,
at
least
within
you
know
a
half
hour
or
one
hour
drive
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
and
so
we
should
make
that
clear
in
the
description-
and
you
know
and
lauren-
and
I
have
had
experience
with
the
general
manager
of
tcat
who
initially
made
plans
to
move
from
syracuse
to
tompkins
county
for
a
variety
of
family
reasons
and
other
stuff.
H
He
did
not
ultimately
make
that
move
his
first
half
year
or
something
we
paid
for
an
apartment
while
he
did
his
search,
but
he
decided
just
to
go
back
to
syracuse
full
time
and
he
is
he's
very
effective
and
he
knows
his
community
very
well
he's
involved
in
community
events
back
when
they
used
to
happen.
And
so
I
think
that
I
think
the
candidate
matters
a
lot
and
that's
something
that
we
you
know
in
the
hiring
process.
You'll
want
to
suss
out.
A
Great
just
to
circle
back
to
not
leave
george's
question
hanging
without
an
answer.
Is
there
any
value
in
discussing
how
far
away
is
too
far
away?
Do
we
have
a
too
far
away
number?
Does
it
does
it
need
like
a
continue?
You
know
some
sort
of
radius,
or
would
we
be
comfortable
with
someone
living
in
buffalo
or
albany
or
or
somewhere?
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
you
were
getting
at
george
is.
Do
we
want
to
do?
A
D
Maybe
I'm
not
understanding
this
completely,
but
it
would
seem.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
anyone
who's
a
department
head
or
a
deputy
department
head
part
of
their
responsibility
is
going
to
be
overseeing
our
other
people
and
staff
people
that
work
for
them.
So,
to
my
mind,
it's
problematic
if
they're
too,
if
they
live
too
far
away.
K
D
A
G
G
There
are
some
folks
who
live
outside
the
tompkins
county
outside
of
tompkins
county
who
might
have
a
lot
of
connections
to
this
county.
So
you
know
to
george's
question.
How
far
is
too
far?
G
I
think
it
depends
on
the
position,
description
and
as
shelley,
I
think
said
it.
It
also
depends
on
folks
in
city
government
being
able
to
hold
staff
members
and
department
heads
have
expectations
of
those
leaders
and
to
hold
people
accountable.
I
think
accountability
is
really
key
and
going
forward.
I
think
that
should
be
central
to
this
discussion,
rather
than
only
basing
it
on
geography.
G
E
E
Hopefully
we
can
do
that
within
civil
service
guidelines,
saying
if,
if
you
live
within
this
area,
whatever
it
is,
whether
it's
the
county
or
the
continuous
that
we're
able
to
offer
some
kinds
of
incentives,
because
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
the
cost
of
living
in
in
the
city
itself
is
a
big
disincentive
to
a
lot
of
people
and
so
being
able
to
offer
that
I
think
addresses
that
by
instead
of
punishing
people,
incentivizing
them
to
say
well,
we'd
like
to
try
and
get
you
to
be
able
to
live
in
the
community,
that
you're,
serving
and
and
in
terms
of
this
accountability.
E
I
think
we
all
recognize.
I
certainly
recognize
that
the
nature
of
work
is
radically
changed
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
go
away.
When,
however
successful
the
vaccine
is,
I
mean
I,
you
read
articles
about
companies,
saying
we're
already
planning
for
25
30
less
office
space,
because
we're
going
to
have
people
not
working
all
the
time.
There
are
many
benefits
for
for
people
to
be
able
to
work
partially
at
home
and
partially
at
work.
E
L
And
I
I
would
just
say
that
I
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
incentives
for
those
who
live
in
the
city,
at
least
looking
at
that
model
down
the
line.
The
the
only
thing
I
would
just
say,
and
it's
just
just
for
informational
purposes.
L
One
of
the
things
I
think
about
is
if,
if
there
are
no
boundaries,
it
sort
of
begs
for
future
questions
to
come
around
as
an
employer
as
a
supportive
employer.
L
If
we
don't
have
a
residency
requirement
and
you
do
have
someone
who
lives
in
oklahoma
or
you
know,
I'm
just
saying
a
distance
away,
then
you
know
we
do
open
ourselves
up
to
questions
about.
You
know
transportation.
You
know
commuting
back
and
forth
housing
while
they're
in
town.
You
know.
So
it's
just
it's
just
something.
To
keep
in
mind,
it's
not
to
say
what
we
should
or
shouldn't
do,
but
I
I
think
it
does
it.
L
It
will
open
up
a
lot
of
other
questions
or
requests
the
the
the
broader
you
make
this.
L
Just
really
imp
informational,
I
mean
I
I
I
can't
say
that
it
will
happen,
but
there's
there's
a
possibility
that
you
know.
If
someone
I
I
ducks,
and
you
were
just
saying
the
gm
for
tcat.
L
I
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
tcat
was
paying
for
an
apartment.
You
know
for
him
for
a
period
of
time.
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
limit
on
that
or
if
he
chose
to
commute
back
and
forth
or
keep
the
apartment,
how
long
you
would
have
kept
it,
but
that's
an
expense.
That's
an
additional
expense
that
that
they
incurred.
H
True,
I
mean
that
was
part
of
like
the
relocation
package
and
you
know
maybe
was
on
us
for
not
requiring
that
he
moved
there,
but
at
some
point
it
ran
out
and
we
just
decided
well,
if
you're
gonna
decide
to
commute,
then
we
are
not
going
to
be
providing
this.
H
This
this
benefit
anymore,
and
it's
on
you
to
get
to
make
it
here.
So
he's
chosen
to
do
that,
and
you
know
he
sacrifices
a
little
bit
of
his
personal
time
to
be
able
to
spend
the
amount
of
time
that
he
does
here.
H
So
that's
kind
of
why
there
is
some
personal
responsibility
in
charge
and
sacrifice
is
pointing
to
this
as
well.
A
Right
and
I'm
assuming
this
change
would
not
you
know,
someone
applies
for
a
job
and
they're
offered
the
job,
and
they
want
to
do
whatever
it
is
to
to
stay
living
wherever
they
live.
I
am
not
assuming
that
the
city
would
provide
any
form
of
transportation
or
apartment
or
or
reimbursement
that
just
gets
into
a
whole
other
realm
of
of
I
I
just
don't
think
we
want
to
go
down
that
road
dan
and
then
laura.
C
Well,
I
think
it's
also
just
worth
keeping
in
mind
that
we
don't
have
this.
This
is
not
currently
in
place
for
any
other
employee
in
the
city
of
ithaca
other
than
deputy
department,
heads
and
department
heads.
So,
for
example,
if
we
hire
a
sustainability
director,
they
aren't
governed
by
this
residency
requirement
currently
and
so
repealing
it
wouldn't
affect
them.
Nor
would
you
know
any
of
our
sort
of
other
professional
positions,
planners
transportation,
engineers
so
on
and
so
forth.
G
Well,
that's!
Okay!
Thank
you.
It's
it's!
My
understanding
from
an
earlier
discussion
that
the
requirement
a
while
ago
was
the
employee.
Residency
requirement
was
specific
to
the
city
and
it
was
then
amended
to
apply
to
the
county.
G
So
there
was
a
broadening
at
some
earlier
time
of
this
residency
requirement
and
that
seems
to
me
probably
was
reflective
of
the
the
what
what
we
were
seeing
as
the
needs
in
the
community
and
that
they
were
broader
than
being
city
specific
plus,
as
has
been
mentioned,
the
cost
of
housing
within
the
city
particularly
may
be
prohibitive
and
would
would
constrain
people
from
applying
for
positions
and,
and
the
same
may
be
the
case.
G
If
we're
looking
at
the
county
at
restricting
the
residency
requirement
to
tompkins
county,
there
may
be
some
housing
constraints
on
people
looking
at
positions,
but
certainly
it's
my
recollection
that
it
was
a
city
requirement.
It
was
expanded
to
a
county
requirement
and
I
think
now
the
the
nature
of
work,
the
nature
of
some
jobs,
someone
who
works
for
streets
and
facilities
often
has
to
be
driving
up
and
down
the
streets
during
a
snowstorm,
as
was
the
case
earlier
this
week.
D
I
I
don't
think
laura's
really
addressed
my
point
of
of
broadening
it
to
contiguous
counties
that
would
include
anybody
who
has
an
hours
commute
basically,
but
be
that
as
it
may.
I
I
think
I'm
making
a
losing
argument
here
and
perhaps,
as
dan
suggests,.
D
F
For
now
george,
but
once
we
start
meeting
in
person
again
though,
but
so
george,
I
think
mike
thorne
made
a
really
compelling
point
when
we
had
this
discussion
last
month,
because
you
know
two
large
markets
that
are
really
within
that
hour.
Commute
onondaga
and
broome
are.
L
The
only
thing
I
would
just
say
to
george
is
that
most
organizations
don't
have
residency
requirements
and
they
have
people
who
have
applied
for
positions
from
all
over
the
world
and
and
most
people
do
move
to
the
net.
Now
I
know
times
are
changing
and
there's
more
remote
work
going
on,
but
generally
people
do.
You
know.
G
Laura
yeah
thanks
and
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
kind
of
in
response
to
george
is:
there
are
actually
some
people
who
live
in
a
contiguous
county,
whether
it's
tioga
county,
who
live
closer
in
fact
than
some
residents
of
towns
in
tompkins
county
that
are
a
bit
further
away
from
from
the
city
but
they're
residents
of
tompkins
county.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
that
you
know
there's
some
people
who
live
15
minutes
away.
You
don't
live
in
tompkins.
A
J
You
know
deb,
while
you're
waiting.
I
will
note
that
this
is
a
local
law
that
will
need
to
be
laid
on
the
table,
and
I
will
reach
out
to
julie,
to
ask
her
to
do
that
for
tomorrow
to
get
it
laid
on
the
table,
but
I
bring
it
up
at
the
moment
to
also
remind
committee
that
if
you
want
to
vote
this
through
at
the
upcoming
council
meeting
in
january,
you
won't,
the
council
won't
be
able
to
make
any
amendments
to
it.
At
that
time.
A
A
Well,
we
can
vote
and
then
wait
for.
Are
you
looking
for
rob
and
then
to
pop
back
in
the
waiting
room
there.
C
A
I
mean
we
have
a
quorum
technically,
we
can
vote.
It
just
seems
silly
to
not
include
him
in
the
vote.
I
don't
know
what
robert's
rules
says
about
adding
another
vote
on
after
you've
already
voted.
If
somebody
joins
the
meeting
later,
I'm
it's
probably
not
oh
there.
He
is
okay,
good
wasted
enough
time.
H
That's
too
bad
shelly's
gone
because
I
did
remember
I
had
a
question
about.
Maybe
she
couldn't
answer
this
public
anyway,
but
whether
in
the
18
years
that
we've
had
that
requirement,
whether
the
the
quality
of
candidates
dropped
because
there's
a
smaller
pool,
that's
probably
extremely
hard
to
measure
anyway,.
H
C
I
mean
having
been
been
around
for
both
of
the
earlier
ones.
I
can
say
that
you
know.
I
think
that
we're
probably
just
now
getting
to
the
point
where
people
who
were
not
grandfathered
in
are,
you
know
kind
of
I
mean
we
did.
We
have
hired
a
few
people
from
outside
the
organization,
but
we've
also
also
promoted
a
few
people
who
were
grandfathered
in
under
the
old
old
local
law.
A
I
wonder
if
what
it
will
do
is
more
people
might
consider
applying
if
they
don't
see
the
residency
requirement
yet,
but
the
likelihood
that
they're
gonna
not
move
to
the
area,
you
know,
maybe
someone
from
I
don't
know
we
will
use
oklahoma.
That
was
shelley's
example
earlier
might
have
been
turned
away
from
thinking
about
a
residency
report.
Maybe
they
would
be
more
likely
to
apply
and
then
figure
out
how
to
relocate.
If
they
were,
you
know
they
were
offered
the
job
as
well.
A
So
I
don't
know,
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
making
our
area
as
attractive
as
possible,
because
I'm,
I
would
assume
that
most
of
the
job,
if
you
want
to
work
for
a
city
government,
but
you
don't
have
any
desire
to
live
in
that
city
you're,
probably
not
the
candidate
for
the
job.
A
You
know
so
I
think,
there's
there's
gonna
be
an
element
of
that
that
you
will
be
able
to
tease
out
in
in
an
interview
process
is
the
person's
commitment
to
the
area
and
the
job
and
the
work
most
of
those
jobs
would
require
and
a
working
knowledge
of
the
community
that
you
are
serving.
So
I
think
we
just
have
to
start
expanding
and
thinking
about
how
how
we
interview
how
how
we
work.
You
know
what
the
world
of
work
is
going
to
look
like
in
the
future.
A
A
Okay,
we
had
to
we
made
nells
wait.
Does
someone
want
to
move
4.3.
D
A
D
4.3
city
administration
advocacy
for
federal,
guaranteed
income
programs,
whereas
mayor
cevante
myrick
is
a
member
of
a
networks
of
mayors
advocating
for
a
guaranteed
income
through
the
mayor's
for
a
guaranteed
income.
Mgi
initiative.
And
whereas
the
guaranteed
income
is
a
monthly
cash
payment
given
directly
to
people
without
work
requirements
or
other
stipulations.
D
D
D
And
whereas
black
and
la
tino
or
hispanic
workers
are
more
likely
to
have
experienced,
covet.
19
related
unemployment
than
white
workers,
as
well
as
higher
levels
of
food
insecurity
and
nearly
twice
as
much
difficulty
meeting
household
expenses
and
whereas
the
u.s
congress
passed
coronavirus.
Aid
relief
and
economic
security
cares
act
at
the
end
of
march,
which
ended
included
a
package
of
relief
and
stimulus
programs,
including
500
billion
dollars
for
large
corporations
and
one-time
twelve
hundred
dollar
economic
impact.
D
D
D
M
Sure
I
would,
I
would
just
say,
state
that
this
is
really
an
opportunity
kind
of
resolution.
We
don't
always
have
the
common
council
taking
you
know,
positions
on
federal
policy,
but
of
course
the
local
government
has
been
excluded
from
the
latest
stimulus
program
yet
again,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
provide
some
direct
benefits
to
residents
if
they
could
continue
to
adopt
guaranteed
income
payment
programs.
There's
an
opportunity
here
both
to
raise
a
level
of
discussion
for
this
issue
through
this
resolution,
but
also
a
more
pragmatic
benefit.
M
The
mayor
was
out
in
front
in
joining
the
mayors
for
a
guaranteed
income
program
and
in
fact
they
do
have
a
grant
program
which
we
can.
The
city
can
be
very
competitive
for,
particularly
if
we
continue
to
make
our
present.
You
know
the
city's
position
known
publicly
in
support
of
the
program,
so
we're
hopeful
that
by
passing
this
resolution,
we
will
enhance
our
competitiveness
and
opportunity
for
grant
funding
through
the
program
to
try
a
pilot
program
in
the
city
as
well
as
advocate
for
the
program
generally
during,
especially
during
the
pandemic
time
period.
M
G
There
is
another
grant
that
the
city
has
applied
for
and
received,
there's
not
full
information
that
can
be
shared
just
yet,
but
it
should
be
coming
out
within
the
next
week
or
so
it
was
a
competitive
application
and
it
will
allow
a
team
of
partners
in
the
city
of
ithaca
to
focus
on
eviction
displacement
defense.
G
So
looking
at
those
residents
who
are
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
city
and
helping
to
pay
rental
arrears
and
also
looking
at
a
housing
stability
supplement
of
the
the
amount
of
money
we
have
been
discussing,
this
team
is
300
a
month,
the
time
period
for
this
grant
that
I'm
referring
to
so
not
the
mayor's
guaranteed
income.
G
But
this
additional
grant
proposal
that
the
city
is
participating
in
will
run
for
18
months
and
there's
a
real
opportunity
here
to
make
a
dramatic
difference
in
the
lives
of
tenants,
especially
tenants
who
are
in
fear
of
evictions.
We
have
the
eviction
moratorium
in
place.
It
has
just
been
extended
by
congress,
but
only
for
one
month
and
it's
very
hard
to
anticipate
the
number
of
evictions.
G
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
laura
and,
and
certainly
I
am
very
pleased
to
see
this
on
our
agenda.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
so
nells.
What
was
the
kind
of
origin
of
this
is?
Is
there
a
group
working
on
this
kind
of
activity
besides
laura
or
could
you
just
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
background
and
then
I
have
a
follow-up
comment.
M
I
believe
it
started
with
the
mayor
getting
being
an
advocate
for
the
program
and
if
you
go
to
the
mayors
for
a
guaranteed
income
website,
I
think
it's
mgi
or
something
you'll
see
the
the
mayors
who
have
been
early
supporters
of
the
program,
including
the
city
of
ithaca.
M
So
it's
been
an
early
initiative
and
there
was
some
recent
funding
provided
by
the
ceo
of
twitter
towards
the
program
which
is
which
they
want
to
now
roll
out
and
do
pilot
programs
in
communities
across
the
country
and
study
the
impacts
in
a
very
you
know,
research-based
scientific
way
to
see
what
are
the
impacts
of
a
guaranteed
income
in
terms
of
public
policy.
K
Yeah
I,
as
you
might
notice
that
we're
the
smallest
city
in
the
group
and,
as
I
pointed
out
at
the
press
conference,
you
know
the
odds
that
you
know
it's
like
the
mayor
of
los
angeles
and
the
mayor
of
ithaca.
So
you
have
the
most
well-known
mayor
in
the
country
and
also
eric
garcetti
in
the
same
collaborative,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
just
to
be
very
up
front.
Is
that
my
personal
relationship
with
mayor
tubbs
of
stockton,
california,
helped
us.
K
I
watched
and
followed
his
work
with
many
late
night
conversations
on
the
phone
about
how
guaranteed
income
was
going
in
his
community,
and
I
you
know,
offered
early
to
support
him
and
to
sign
on
and
and
really
have
become,
a
believer
and
the
idea
that
we
need
a
new
social
security
that
we've
relied
on
in
the
past
is
not
working
that
not
only
is
income
inequality
becoming
higher,
but
a
more
uncertain
world
means
we
need
a
better
backstop
and
better
insurance,
and-
and
I
think
this
could
be
it.
E
Yeah
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
I
think
this
is
really
good.
I'd
certainly
support.
I
mean
in
reading
about
income
inequality,
which,
of
course,
it's
unfortunate
that
kobe
19
had
to
make
this
or
raise
the
profile
of
this
I
mean
it's
been
increasing
over
the
years
at
a
really
outrageous
rate.
I
mean
not
just
in
this
country,
but
in
many
western
economies,
and
it's
just
this
situation
has
made,
certainly
me,
but
I
think
many
people
realize
how
fragile
the
economic
systems
are
and
how
unfair
they
were
becoming.
E
So
I
fully
support
this.
I
hope
it's
you
know
goes
beyond
it's
there's
a
phrase
in
there
which
says
until
our
economy
recovers.
It's
gonna
be
interesting
to
see
what
that
phrase
will
mean
unless
something
like
this
is
made.
You
know
somewhat
part
of
the
economy
and
and
the
model
for
the
economy.
So
I
fully
support
this
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
this
develops,
but
I
I
I
want
to
just
thank
the
mayor,
but
also
nels
and
laura,
for
bringing
this
along.
A
Great
I'm
assuming,
if
we
need
we
can
change
the
language
in
the
first
resolved
based
on
what
may
or
may
not
happen
with
some
kind
of
vote
today.
So
we'll
just
put
a
right
now
I
don't,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
wordsmith
it
now
on
the
floor,
not
knowing
what
actually
is
gonna
is
going
to
be
past
so
nells,
don't
you
think
that
would
make
sense
is
to
just
modify
that
result
because
it
says
ensure
payments
are
included
in
the
next
package.
A
D
I
support
this
100
percent.
I
I
think
this
is
a
great
good
thing.
I
I
know
my
cousin
who
lives
in
maine
has
and
is
employed
or
was
employed
and
her
husband
was
employed.
They
were
both
laid
off
and
that
extra
unemployment
money
last
summer
kept
them
going
and
actually
allowed
my
cousin
to
get
her
teeth
which
were
in
horrible
shape,
fixed
and
so
something
that
everybody
should
be
able
to
do.
D
But
a
lot
of
people
can't
so
it's
not
exactly
related,
but
it
is
related,
and
so
I
support
this
100
and
I
thank
you,
nells
and
laura
and
cevante
for
bringing
this
to
us.
F
Yeah
I'll
also
add
my
support
for
this.
I
didn't
thank
my
colleagues
for
working
on
this.
I
did
have
a
question,
though,
in
the
first
resolve
I
mean
you
know.
Most
of
the
resolution
implies
and
talks
about
federal
programs
and
when
I
first
read
the
first
resolve
it,
it
didn't
it.
It
almost
sounded
as
if
the
city
of
ithaca
were
planning
to
be
on
the
hook.
F
For
that,
so
I
didn't
understand
that
there
was
this
possibility
of
outside
grant
money
that
maybe
isn't
federal
money,
but
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
language
is
clear
enough
that
it's
not
implying
that
the
city
will
do
this,
regardless
of
whether
we
have
any
other
funding
sources.
A
A
A
I
didn't
read
it
as
the
city
would
be
covering
them,
but
now
that
I
reread
it
again,
I
see
how
that
you
could
interpret
it
that
way.
So
maybe
we
could
work
on
a
new
variation
of
how
to
say
it.
A
So
it's
clear
that
we
are
supporting
this
at
the
federal
level,
but
I
also
think
we
need
to
say
you
know
that
this
is
important
to
the
city
and
city
residents
and
if
we
were
to
receive
grant
money
for
it,
of
course,
we
would
want
to
participate
in
it
so,
but
I
don't
think
this
is.
I
think
this
is
just
to
essentially
publicly
state
that
we
are
in
agreement
with
this
program
as
a
concept,
not
that
we
are
funding
it
laura.
G
Yeah
thanks
deb,
and
I
I
like
your
choice
of
words
when
you
talk
about
an
income
floor,
and
I
just
want
to
again
clarify
that
the
city
has
received
a
grant
already
to
focus
on
the
interruption
of
of
evictions
with
a
a
racial
social
equity
lens
on
this.
G
This
work,
so
that
you
know
I'm
sorry
to
not
be
more
clear,
but
we
don't
yet
have
permission
from
the
funder
who
has
approved
a
grant
to
the
city
to
publicly
announce
that,
but
I'm
anticipating
that
that
will
come
within
the
well.
We
were
hoping
this
week,
but
it's
it's
hard
to
know.
The
the
other
comment
I
wanted
to
make
is
I'm
fully
supportive
of
the
mayor's
guaranteed
income
program.
There
are
18
mayors,
as,
as
I
recall,
participating
or
supporting
this,
and
cevante
can
speak
with
more
specificity
about
that.
G
But
the
point
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
when
there
is
a
housing
stability
supplement
or
a
guaranteed
income
supplement,
people
receiving
that
are
using
it.
To
I
mean
george's
example
is,
is
a
really
good
one.
G
The
information
anecdotally
that
has
been
seen
is
that
people
receiving
such
income
supplements
will
use
it
to
pay
rent,
we'll
use
it
to
pay
utilities,
we'll
use
it
for
educational
expenses.
So
these
are
funds
that
are
being
reinvested
back
into
our
community,
not
only
supporting
residents
but
supporting
our
community
as
a
whole.
G
You
know
the
people
who
are
making
the
dishwashers
and
the
clothes
dryers
that
someone
is
able
to
purchase
with
their
income
supplement,
shouldn't
shouldn't,
be
ignored
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
comment
on
that.
M
To
rob's
point
I
I
was
concerned
about
that
issue
myself
when
I
first
was
developing
this
resolution,
an
adaptation
from
the
mayor's
for
a
guaranteed
income
by
the
way,
and
thank
you,
george
for
reading
17,
whereas
statements,
but
the
title
helps
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
when
you
get
right
down
to
the
resolved,
I
don't
think
it
would
do
any
harm
to
the
the
sense
of
the
resolution
to
amend
the
first
resolve.
To
add
the
word
federal
bet.
M
You
know,
and-
and
you
know
from
there
on
out-
I
think
that
would
still
be
consistent
with
the
message
and
it
wouldn't
this
is
this
resolution
is
not
about
anything
but
receiving
a
grant
or
anything
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
it's
stating
the
kind
of
more
general
concepts.
A
A
Staying
here
all
right,
so
we're
just
adding
federal
in
front
of,
did
you
say
in
front
of
cash
or
payments
or
somewhere
and
then
wherever
grammatically.
A
A
Okay,
any
other
discussion
on
this.
A
Nope
thanks
for
bringing
this
forward,
this
is
important
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously-
and
I
believe
that
is
that
is
all
that
we
have
on
our
agenda.
So
we
are
ending
2020.
A
Administration
2020,
I
don't
know
for
quite
out
of
2020
yet
right.
I
did
notice
that
you
had
the
next
meeting
as
january
27th
just
really
quickly.
C
Probably
worth
checking
it
was
done
at
the
request
of
planning
so
that
they
would
have
more
time
to
prepare
materials
after
the
council
meeting.
I
think
okay
check
in
with
them
to
see
whether
it
has
functioned
in
the
way
that
they
intended,
and
I
guess
also
check
with
I
mean
it
seems
like
the
city
admin
we've
been
able
to
function,
okay,
turning
things
around
right
after
this
meeting,
so
that
they
get
on
the
common
council
agenda,
so
that
hasn't
been
too
much
of
a
challenge.
I
don't
think.
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
gauge
because
we
made
the
switch
right
before
all
of
this
happened
and
we
all
ended
up
on
zoom
and
who
knows
what
was
what
was
going
on.
So
I
would
like
to
just
do
a
check-in
with
everyone
before
we
commit
to
making
the
change
and
then
just
make
it
make
it
clear
to
everyone
that
we're
choosing,
because
for
some
reason
I
felt
like
the
27th
was
was
pretty
late
for
ca.
But
then,
when
I
was
looking
at
the
calendar,
I
guess
well
yeah.
A
That's
the
new
pattern
that
we
that
we
went
with.
So
I
guess
maybe
check
in
with
we'll
check
in
with
staff.
So
for
now
hold
the
27th.
Maybe
what
we'll
do
is
put
out
all
the
meetings.
All
the
meetings
for
the
year
we'll
put
out
on
the
next
agenda.
E
Tom's
just
reading
us
happy
holidays
to
everybody.
I
think
oh.