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A
B
Thanks
julie,
thanks
very
much
for
getting
us
set
up,
as
always
in
this
zoom
world,
well,
welcome
everyone
to
the
special
meeting
of
common
council
this
evening
july,
27
2022
I'll
call
the
meeting
to
order.
B
It
is
602,
according
to
my
clock,
and
I
do
appreciate
everyone's
flexibility
and
willingness
to
meet
for
this
special
meeting,
we're
holding
a
special
meeting
because
of
a
number
of
time,
sensitive
issues
to
address,
and
also
because
of
summer
schedules
for
many
many
folks,
some
folks
on
council,
some
folks
are
joining
us.
Thank
you
while
they
are
traveling
or
on
vacation.
B
So
much
much
appreciated
for
everyone
being
here.
Are
there
any
additions
or
deletions
from
tonight's
agenda?
B
A
Okay-
and
our
first
speaker
today
is
aurora
following
aurora
will
be
jane,
gloveman,
then
zachary
nguyen
and
then
sabrina
letty.
B
Thank
you,
hi
aurora,
hi
and
I'll
just
remind
all
speakers
that
we're
delighted
to
have
public
members
of
the
public
join
us
and
you
have
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
to
speak.
So
go
ahead
when
you're
ready.
C
Great,
thank
you
starting
my
timer
now.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
my
name
is
aurora
roger.
I
live
in
ithaca
and
I'm
a
part
of
ithaca
democratic
socials
of
america.
So
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
climate,
emergency
fires,
floods,
new
viruses
popping
up
every
day
right.
So
this
is
an
issue
that
is
affecting
all
of
us
all
across
the
planet.
But
what
can
we
do?
Locally?
C
C
Meanwhile,
electric
cars
are
simply
not
accessible
to
the
working
class
right.
It's
a
real
consumer
choice,
solution
to
a
systematic
problem
right.
So
what
would
a
systemic
solution?
Look
like
it
would
look
like
free
and
expanded
public
transit,
namely
tcat,
free
tcat
or
free
cat,
would
lower
emissions
while
supporting
the
poor
and
working
class
in
ithaca
who
are
disproportionately
people
of
color.
C
Dozens
of
other
cities
in
the
us
have
done
this
or
are
doing
this
with
great
success.
It's
really
a
win
for
everybody.
Of
course
the
question
is
right:
how
are
we
going
to
pay
for
it,
and
the
answer,
I
think,
is
pretty
simple.
I
think
we
need
to
make
cornell
pay
for
it.
They
are
the
county's
largest
employer.
They
rely
on
tcap
for
students,
as
well
as
for
their
workers
to
get
to
work,
and
meanwhile
they're
not
paying
taxes.
C
They
do
pay
some
money
to
tcap,
but
not
enough
to
justify
the
percentage
of
riders
that
they
they
have
riding
these
buses
right.
So
they
also
have
these
lofty
climate
goals,
so
this
would
help
them
reach
their
climate
goals,
and
I
think
it's
time
that
we
make
tcap
free
and
expanded,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
cornell
pay
for
it.
Thank
you.
D
Hi
jane
whoops,
hello,
I
am
also
my
name
is
jane
gleldman
and
I
live
in
fall
creek
and
I
am
also
a
member
of
dsa,
and
I'm
also
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
freecat.
D
Chapel
hill,
north
carolina,
for
example,
home
of
the
university
of
north
carolina,
has
had
an
extensive
fare
free
bus
service
for
a
number
of
years
now
the
city
of
boston
recently
converted
several
bus
lines
to
fair
free
service
as
a
test
and
ridership
on
one
line
immediately
rose
by
almost
50
percent.
D
This
was
reported
in
the
guardian.
The
other
day
officials
with
tcat
have
told
us
that
this
is
a
reason
not
to
go
far
free
that
increased
ridership
is
a
reason
not
to
do
it.
Tcap
doesn't
have
the
capacity
but
the
need,
but
we
need
to
shift
residents
from
private
vehicles
to
mass
transit
if
we're
going
to
claim
to
have
an
ithaca
green
new
deal,
although
we
all
also
support
better
facilities
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
winter
weather
means
that
the
only
practical
alternative
to
driving
year
round
in
our
area
is
mass
transit.
D
The
needs
of
many
residents
would
be
met
by
expanded
fare
free
service.
It
would
make
area
businesses
and
facilities
accessible
to
people
who,
for
whatever
reason,
cannot
drive,
and
it
would
save
large
amounts
of
money
for
employees
of
local
institutions
who
cannot
afford
ithaca's,
very
expensive
and
limited
housing
market
in
order
to
meet
this
need.
Service
must
be
expanded,
though.
We
understand
that
this
may
take
many
forms
and
not
solely
consist
of
constant
full-size
buses.
D
It
must,
however,
be
frequent,
reliable
and
free
if
we
are
to
take
many
cars
off
the
road.
Finally,
we
believe
that
large
area
businesses
must
pay
for
this
expansion
of
service.
The
most
important
of
these
is
shirley
cornell,
whose
vast
wealth
increased
dramatically
during
the
pandemic.
I
believe
that
their
endowment
went
from
something
like
seven
billion
to
ten
billion
dollars
and
whose
employees
and
students
form
such
a
large
percentage
of
tcat
riders
employees
at
other
large
businesses.
D
However,
such
as
big
box
stores
along
route
13
and
near
the
mall,
would
also
benefit
enormously
from
increased
service,
as
would
workers
at
other
robust
local
businesses.
The
climate
catastrophe
is
upon
us.
We
must
make
this
an
equitable
town
where
all
can
afford
to
work
to
get
to
medical
appointments
to
enjoy
the
outdoors
as
well
as
local
businesses,
and
we
must
drastically
cut
emissions
without
delay.
Thank
you.
A
B
E
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
zachary
nguyen.
I
know
you
are
considering
an
extension
of
the
lateral
transfer
bonus,
an
attempt
to
attract
new
law
enforcement
officers
to
the
ethical
police
department.
I
believe,
without
a
significant
increase
to
that
incentive,
there's
little
reason
to
believe
it
will
prove
successful.
E
You're,
also
discussing
the
community
justice
center
contract
implementing
a
community
justice
center.
I
think
they
should
wait
until
the
conclusion
of
the
county
ethics
probe
into
remanagement
public
safety.
It
is
possible
that
the
entirety
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
plan
will
need
to
be
reevaluated.
E
I
don't
see
why
you
can't
describe
enforcing
the
existing
law
and
dealing
with
the
consequences
of
that,
instead
of
potentially
creating
a
new
open
wound
in
the
form
of
the
type
encampment
that
could
seemingly
cause
an
out
of
control
situation
similar
to
what's
going
on
at
the
art
house.
E
A
And
our
last
speaker
is
sabrina
letty.
F
Hi,
sabrina
hi
everyone
first
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
sabrina
letty.
I
live
in
ithaca
and
I'm
also
here
on
behalf
of
the
free
cat
campaign,
to
ask
that
the
common
council
support
our
movement
for
fair,
free
and
expanded
tcat
services
in
the
interest
of
sustainability.
F
As
aurora
already
said,
in
a
given
year,
transportation
makes
up
30
to
40
percent
of
the
county's
emissions,
and
studies
have
repeatedly
shown
that
prioritizing
public
transit
use
over
private
vehicle
use
could
reduce
those
emissions
by
up
to
50
percent,
and
this
makes
supporting
our
campaign
a
simple
and
arguably
indispensable
act
of
climate
protection
that
is
in
line
with
the
ithaca
green
new
deal
and,
moreover,
in
the
interest
of
equity
and
dignity.
We
in
free
cap
believe
that
accessible
transportation
and
basic
mobility
are
human
rights.
F
The
current
public
transit
structure
does
not
support
those
in
the
most
underserved
communities.
We
need
to
support
elderly
persons
and
those
with
disabilities
that
prevent
them
from
driving
who
currently
have
to
pay
to
get
around.
We
need
to
support
working
class
people,
many
of
whom
can't
afford
to
live
in
the
city
and
therefore
commute
to
work
by
car
from
areas
where
buses
are
inaccessible,
creating
yet
another
financial
burden
that
disproportionately
impacts
these
communities.
F
So
this
is
it's
cyclical,
it's
dehumanizing
and
it's
demoralizing.
I
think
it
contributes
to
an
isolated
static
population
with
reduced
resources
and
reduced
quality
of
life,
and
free
cat
is
really
hoping
to
change
that,
and
rather
than
place
additional
undue
burden
on
the
people
of
ithaca
and
tompkins
county
as
a
whole.
F
So
it's
imperative
that
local
government
fights
for
the
rights
and
needs
of
their
constituents
and
by
supporting
the
free
cat
campaign's
objectives
for
a
fair,
free,
expanded
tcat.
You
join
us
in
confronting
both
the
climate
crisis,
as
is
in
line
with
the
green
new
deal,
but
also
barriers
right
now
that
are
choking
off
opportunities,
like
jane
said
in
education,
employment,
personal
development
and
civic
engagement
from
these
communities.
That
would
really
benefit
from
them
the
most.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
yield
the
rest
of
mine.
B
G
Thank
you,
laura
the
concept
of
free
tcat
is
interesting.
I
we
live
in
a
small
city
in
a
predominantly
rural
environment,
and
I
don't
think
this
could
solve
everything
for
people
who
live
out
in
the
country,
but
it
could
help.
Certainly,
the
the
point
I'd
just
like
to
make
is
that
during
the
pandemic,
cornell
didn't
even
pay
the
amount
of
money
that
they
had
agreed
to
pay
to
tcat.
G
So
if
anybody
can
figure
out
a
way
for
cornell
to
pony
up
a
decent
amount
of
money
for
this,
please
let
me
know.
B
Okay,
jorge
and
robert
I'll
turn
to
you
in
just
one
moment.
I
I
will
just
add
one
editorial
comment,
and
that
is,
I
do
serve
on
the
tcat
board,
as
does
my
colleague,
ducks
and
wynn.
So
we're
familiar
with
these
discussions.
We
also
are
familiar
with
the
fact
that
tcat
is
supported
by
three
underwriters
cornell,
the
city
and
the
county,
and
all
three
underwriters
do
contribute
to
tcat,
and
I
will
just
also
amend
george
with
all
due
respect.
B
B
Was
an
issue
there
was
an
issue
with
the
timing
of
some
payments
and
that
issue
has
been
addressed
so.
H
B
Will
just
leave
it
at
that
jorge
robert
and
phoebe.
I
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
I
really
appreciate
all
the
folks
who
came
to
speak
comment
today.
I
think
a
lot
of
good
points
were
made.
I
think
we're
talking
about
free
transit
in
our
city.
It's
not
just
a
climate
issue,
it's
not
just
a
working-class
economic
issue,
it's
not
just
a
social
justice
issue
for
servicing
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
been
disenfranchised
and
might
not
be
able
to
afford
some
of
these
transportation
cars.
I
These
are
all
intersected
and
inter
interconnected,
and
I
feel
like
there
are
a
lot
of
cities
right
now
that
are
taking
point
on
on
free
transit,
and
I
don't
think
we
should
fall
behind
on
that.
I
think
a
lot
of
points
were
really
made
that
we
that
this
city
and
the
folks
who
live
here
often
live
in
the
shadow
of
bigger
corporations
and
institutions
such
as
cornell
university,
which
do
could
be
doing
a
lot
more
to
pay
their
fair
share.
I
Folks,
throughout
the
city
provide
services,
whether
they're
doctors,
lawyers
or
garbage
collectors,
and
they
all
still
pay
their
fair
share.
And
so
I
feel
like
it's
time
that
bigger
institutions
take
up
that
part
and
really,
as
georgia
pony
of
the
costs,
because
this
is
something
that
is
addressing
the
climate
catastrophe,
but
also
years
of
systemic
oppression,
and
so
I'm
really
wholehearted
support
of
free
transit.
And
I
am-
and
I
hope
we
can
continue
to
negotiate
these
things
amongst
the
other
parties
involved
with
tcat
in
the
city.
J
Thank
you
mayor
I'll,
just
very
briefly
echo
the
sentiments
of
my
previous
colleagues
and
say
you
know,
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
effort
for
the
reasons
stated
and
would
very
much
like
to
see
how
we
might
be
able
to
implement
both
expanded
and
and
raid
free
service.
So
thank
you
for
those
who
are
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
K
Hi,
hello,
everybody.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
speakers.
I
also
want
to
say
you
know
I
I
support
what
jorge
has
said
and
and
george.
K
However,
my
concern
is
the
bus
services
the
times
of
the
day,
the
times
of
the
night
and
and
hopefully
we
can
work
on
and
figure
out
how
that
will
help.
Others,
you
know,
help
people
in
the
community
because
we're
talking
about
people
who
need
buses
late
at
night.
So
you
know
listening
and
hearing
the
the
shortage
of
bus
service
and
I
guess
bus
drivers
is
how
do
we
make?
How
do
we
work
together
to
make
to
see
this
happen?.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
phoebe,
and
you
touched
upon
a
really
important
point
in
that
is
the
shortage
of
bus
drivers.
That's
a
national
challenge
that
certainly
is
felt
here
in
ithaca,
as
well
as
the
shortage
of
bus
mechanics.
That
is
certainly
one
of
the
factors
under
consideration
right
now.
B
I
do
want
to
just
point
out
for
all
the
listening
audience
that
tcat
introduced
a
free
youth
service
just
this
summer,
so
all
youth,
17
years
old
and
younger
are
able
to
ride
tkt
with
without
charge
that
by
no
means
addresses
all
the
needs
of
everyone
throughout
the
community,
but
the
youth
free
ride
was
introduced
just
this
summer.
B
L
Thank
you,
I'm
happy
to
hear
the
discussion
around
tcat
and
expanding
services
and
making
it
most
more
accessible
to
those
who
might
otherwise
not
be
able
to
access
tcap
for
financial
reasons.
So
I
definitely
support
discussions
in
this
area.
I
did
want
to
respond
to
a
comment
that
was
raised
earlier
with
regards
to
the
cjc
contract,
which
is
on
the
agenda
today.
L
You
know
I
just
want
to
remind
the
public
that
the
investigation
has
to
do
with
the
involvement
of
third
parties
in
the
city
working
group
process,
and
that
does
not
in
any
way
impact
the
joint
city
county
efforts
which
the
cjc
is
tasked
with
managing.
So
I
don't
see
this
being
in
any
way
impacted
by
that
investigation.
I
think
definitely
what
we
are
talking
about
tonight
with
regards
to
the
contract
should
indeed
move
forward
with
regards
to
the
situation
on
the
west
end
and
the
unhoused
population.
L
As
many
of
you
know,
our
volunteer
working
group
made
a
presentation
to
the
pedc
last
week,
asking
the
city
to
consider
a
sanctioned
encampment
site
as
a
bona
fide
city
function,
asking
the
city
to
select
a
site
that
could
be
used
for
a
sanctioned
encampment
site
and
provide
in-kind
services
and
support
and
to
work
with
the
county
to
provide
assistance
to
individuals
who
are
unhoused.
L
L
Relieve
some
of
the
stresses
that
both
residents
and
businesses
are
facing
on
on
the
west
end.
I
do
think
that
that
should
move
forward
and
it
definitely
got
a
strong
support
by
members
of
the
pedc.
And
I
look
forward
to
having
this
similar
presentation
to
the
county.
At
the
health
and
human
services
committee
meeting
on
august.
B
15Th,
thank
you.
Thank
you
ducks
and
I
see
your
hand
up.
M
Yep,
thank
you
laura
as
the
other
board
member
on
council
right
now.
I
also
appreciate
all
the
words
spoken
about
tcat
and
for
all
my
years
on
the
board.
Six
now
I
think
we
have
been
very
interested
in
fair
free
transit.
There
is
obviously
a
question
of
funding
and
I
think
what's
also
interesting.
M
There
was
a
I
know
I
spent
too
much
time
on
twitter,
but
you
learn
some
things
sometimes,
and
that
includes
multiple
surveys
and
studies
about
you
know
when,
when
resources
are
finite,
as
they
are
in
our
community
writers,
generally
favor
more
service
over
fair
reductions,
so
that
you
know
comes
into
the
conversation
too
so
as
for
both
the
same
time
is
basically
asking
for
infinite
money,
which
I
would
gladly
ask
for,
but
there's
a
lot
of
factors
at
play,
but
I
appreciate
that
the
conversation
is
coming
up
at
all
outside
just
board
conversations,
and
so
like
the
more
that
this
is
a
community
conversation,
the
more
productive
it'll
be.
B
Thanks:
doug,
okay,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands,
so
why
don't
we
move
into
tonight's
agenda?
B
And
the
first
agenda
item
is
a
special
order
of
business.
This
is
a
voting
item.
It
is
a
resolution
approving
the
draft
contract
contract
for
community
justice
center
and
for
the
benefit
of
viewers.
I
will
read
through
this,
whereas,
following
the
governor's
executive
order,
203
one
of
many
steps
identified
for
potential
city
action
was
the
creation
of
the
community
justice
center
as
a
jointly
funded
city
county
collaborative
department
to
determine
implementation
priorities.
B
Develop
budget
impacts
for
the
implementation
of
plan
elements
manage
the
implementation
of
the
joint
plan.
Elements,
as
approved
by
the
city
of
ithaca
and
tompkins
county,
receive
manage
and
analyze
data,
provide
coordination
of
the
operation
of
the
policing
systems
in
our
community
and
provide
reports
to
the
city
and
county
regarding
the
progress
in
implementing
these
changes
and
whereas
the
city
and
county
held
discussions
to
determine
the
operational
description
budget
and
cost
share
for
a
community
justice
center.
B
With
those
details
outlined
in
a
joint
memo
dated,
may
18
2021
as
referenced
in
council's
funding
resolution
dated
june
2nd
2021,
and
these
documents
by
the
way
are
attached
to
the
packet
tonight.
Whereas
that
joint
memo
provided
in
pertinent
part
to
operationalize
the
cjc,
the
city
and
county,
would
agree
to
the
following
framework:
develop
a
contract
that
outlines
the
parameters
of
the
working
relationship
between
thompson's,
county
and
the
city
of
ithaca.
The
contract
would
be
revisited,
revised
and
updated,
as
requested
by
the
county
legislature
and
council,
or
their
designees.
B
B
And
is
there
a
second,
I
saw
move
and
is
there
a
second
patrick
thank
you,
and
I
will
just
add
that
I've
been
part
of
these
discussions
that
have
been
occurring
on
a
weekly
basis
with
representatives
colleagues
from
the
county.
I
will
also
add
that
I
was
enthusiastically
supportive
of
and
continue
to
be
committed
to
and
enthusiastically,
supportive
of
the
community
justice
center.
B
B
B
The
ongoing
meetings
have
been
challenging
and
there
may
be
some
differences
in
our
views
between
the
city
and
the
county,
but
I
very
much
want
to
see
this
move
forward,
so
you
see
the
agreement
that
is
in
the
packet
right
behind
the
resolution
and
now
let
me
turn
it
over
for
comments,
questions
and
discussion
and
by
the
way
I
have
invited
lisa
holmes
to
join
us
this
evening.
She
is
here:
lisa
is
the
topkins
county
administrator
lisa.
B
N
Oh
thanks
laura,
I
think
the
where
the
term
is
concerned,
and
it
certainly
says
it
right
there
in
the
resolution,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
for
everyone
to
recognize
that
the
agreement
outlined
in
the
memo-
that's
included
in
the
packet
on
the
that
the
county
and
the
city
had
reached
back
in
excess
of
a
year
ago
was
around
a
two-year
term.
B
B
B
N
I'm
very
sorry
about
that.
I
was
simply
noting
that
the
the
city
is
is
is
trying
to
simultaneous.
The
city
is
negotiating
with
negotiations
with
the
county
across
the
past.
A
few
months
says
seeking
to
simultaneously
honor
the.
B
Let
me
add,
as
we're
waiting
for
ari
to
rejoin,
I
believe
one
of.
N
The
intents
that
the
city
and
county
had,
I
think
you
should
go
on
without
me
and
I'll
change.
My
connection,
please
don't
worry
about
it.
I'm
sorry.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
ari
ari
may
have
wanted
to
point
out
to
council
to
the
public
and
and
lisa
is
certainly
aware
of
this-
that
we
have
wanted
to
honor
the
agreement,
the
resolution
that
was
passed
by
common
council
while
allowing
some
flexibility
and
there
there
has
been
flexibility
on
the
part
of
the
city
already
so
ari.
N
N
So
if
you
can
still
hear
me,
that's
right,
the
the
mutual
intent
of
the
city
and
county
as
of
in
excess
of
a
year
ago,
probably
on
the
order
of
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
as
clearly
stated
in
the
agenda,
packet
was
a
two-year
term,
and
so
the
term
now
reflected
in
the
agenda
packet
in
in
the
contract
before
council
tonight
is,
is
also
a
two-year
term.
N
But
with
an
auto
renew
that
would
add
on
an
additional
year,
which
is
the
city's
attempt
to
find
common
ground
with
the
county,
while
honoring
the
previously
unstated
intent
of
both
parties
in
the
spring
2021
memo.
So
that
was
the
point
yeah
thank.
H
J
Thank
you
quick
question,
I'm
of
course,
in
support
of
this.
I
I
did
just
want
to
know
in
terms
of
I
just
the
auto
renew
versus
like
a
alternative.
I'm
just
curious,
like
I
know
we
do
a,
I
don't
mean
to
put
anyone
on
the
spot,
but
I
know
we
do
like
a
service
sharing
agreement
with
the
town
of
ithaca
on
fire
issues,
for
example,
is,
is
that
is
this
agreement
modeled
on?
J
That
is
that
why
we're
opting
for
this
sort
of
how
do
I
say
what
appears
to
a
lay
person
to
be
like
an
unorthodox
method
of
amendment
or.
B
Yeah,
I
don't
see
this
as
similar
to
a
service
sharing
agreement.
The
auto
renew
is
to
allow
the
greatest
flexibility
for
for
the
city
and
the
county
aria.
I
don't
know
if
you're
connected
now,
if
you
want
to
respond
to
robert's
question
about,
does
this
in
any
way
reflect
your
service
sharing
agreement
model.
N
Yeah
I
wouldn't
say
that
it
reflects
the
the
fire,
the
town
city
fire
contract.
I'm
not
sure
why
you,
I
guess
I
would
ask
what
do
you
see
as
unorthodox
about
it
robert?
It's
not
particularly
uncommon,
to
have
an
auto
renew
in
various
city
agreements.
If
that's
what
you're
referring
to
and.
N
J
I'll
reiterate
that,
like
I'm,
I'm
looking
at
this
as
a
layperson
right,
so
that
if
this
is
not
unorthodox,
I
don't
I'll
I'll
state
that
I
accept
that
I'm
not
trying
to
disagree.
J
I
just
like
it
sounds
like
the
intention
is
for
us
to
do
the
additional
time,
and
so
I
was
just
confused
about
why
we
had
to
do
it
this
way,
but
because,
like
to
a
lay
person,
I
would
just
think,
oh
like
we
want
to
do
it
for
a
longer
time,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
with
whatever
I
just
didn't
understand
why
we
were
structuring
it.
This
way.
N
Yeah-
and
I
guess
what
I
would
point
out-
which
I
think
it
also
is
recited
in
one
of
the,
whereas
is
there-
is
that
the
prior
memo
this
is
in
the
third,
whereas
the
of
the
resolution
before
you
tonight
at
the
end
of
that
third,
whereas
just
before
the
fourth,
whereas
it's
talking
about
that
june,
2nd
2021
excuse
me
that
may
18
2021
memo
and
the
the
memo
provided
also
provided
that
the
cjc
requires
a
two-year
financial
investment
which
would
be
re-evaluated
after
the
two-year
period.
So
this
odd.
N
The
answer
is
that
this
auto
renew
provides
an
opportunity
to
honor
exactly
that
intent,
while
also
creating
the
default
assumption
that
it
will
extend
for
another
year
as
the
county
is
requesting
and
as
I
have
a
sense
that
some
members
of
council
may
be
interested
in.
So
this
is
truly
an
attempt
to
honor
that
intent
and
to
bridge
those
differences.
But
I
will
I
will
add.
N
It
is
definitely
true
that
the
city
has
entered
into
multiple
other
agreements
across
the
years
that
contain
auto
renew
clauses
with
an
opportunity
to
re-evaluate
at
the
time
of
the
auto
running.
So
that's
that's.
Not
a
exceptionally
uncommon
approach.
B
Thank
you,
patrick
and
then
george.
R
P
Things,
I
guess
I
had
questions
about
were
in
section
8
of
the
contract.
It
was
stating
that
the
county
is
going
to
provide
us
with
a
full
annual
work
plan
by
august
15th
every
year,
starting
this
year.
I
guess
part
of
what
I
was
hoping
to
ask
is:
is
that
almost
done?
Is
that
already
made,
because
to
me
I'd
rather
have
a
fully
fleshed
out
plan
that
might
take
a
month
longer
than
to
us
approve
this
and
then
the
county
of
bruce.
P
B
We
we've
discussed
this
in
regular
weekly
meetings
that
I've
been
involved
in
lisa
has
been
involved
in
the
city
and
the
county.
I
think
they're.
You
know
the
city
is
interested
in
moving
this
contract
forward
and
being
flexible
in
any
way
possible.
So
we
can
certainly
flex
on
and
and
lisa
feel
free
to
comment
on
this.
B
If
you
wish
that
august
15th
would
be
the
date
by
which
we
would
ask
for
the
prospective
annual
work
plan,
but
you're
absolutely
right,
patrick-
and
this
has
come
up
in
our
meetings-
that
august
15
2022
is
right
around
the
corner.
B
So
what
we
would
certainly
consider-
and
I'd
like
to
put
this
in
front
of
council
is
flexing
that
date
for
this
first
year
to
one
month
from
then,
in
other
words,
a
september
15
2022
for
this
year
and
then
keeping
the
august
15
for
the
2023
for
the
following
year
and
lisa.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
mention
that
to
you
before
the
meeting
tonight.
S
Well,
I
would
say
that
the
later
date
would
I
make
we
may
have
even
proposed
a
later
date,
because
that
would
better
coincide
with
our
budget
process
and
essentially
the
work
plan.
The
prospective
work
plan
we
put
together
for
the
coming
year
as
part
of
the
the
budget
request
for
the
coming
year,
as
as
we
did
for
the
current
year
for
2022,
which
is
essentially
was,
was
the
the
appendix
that
was
included.
The
the
plan
of
work
for
the
cjc
beyond
the
staffing
so
happy
to
speak
more
about
that.
P
N
N
I
think
the
answer
is
that
the
city
has
numerous
contracts
that
refer
to
the
mayor,
so
this
will
be
a
systemic
issue
that
the
city
addresses
as
we,
if,
if
we
make
the
transition
from
to
a
city
manager
and
and
that
I
don't
actually
foresee
any
particularly
momentous
impact
on
the
operations
of
the
cjc
or
the
city's
participation
in
it
as
a
function
of
the
city
manager
coming
into
office,
assuming
that's
what
happens
so
I
I
don't
believe
that
this
clause
needs
to
be
adjusted
in
order
to
account.
G
Thanks
laura
yeah,
I
can.
I
can
fully
understand
the
the
desire
to
lengthen
the
the
time
from
two
years
to
two
years
from
last
year
to
an
additional
year.
A
year
has
passed
since
that
june.
G
Resolution
and
and
the
cjc
still
isn't
really
up
and
running
fully,
so
they
do
need
time
to
get
their
feet
under
him.
G
G
My
question
is
in
this
first
year
at
least
the
administrative
assistant
I
don't
believe
has
been
hired
yet
and
maybe
the
data
person-
I
don't
know
if
they've
been
hired.
So
are
we
going
to
pay
the
full
annual
salary
for
these
people
or
does
that
get
reduced
according
to
how
many
months
they're
actually
working.
S
I
can
speak
to
both
of
those
things
the
the
latter
is.
It
would
only
be
for
the
the
months
that
in
which
the
the
staff
were
hired
and
working,
so
we
don't
yet
have
an
administrative
assistant
or
a
data
analyst.
S
We
do
have
the
cjc
director,
so
that's
the
only
expenses,
staffing
expenses
that
we've
incurred
so
far
or
for
the
cjc,
the
item
about
the
appendix
is
and
the
appendix
related
to
the
contract,
not
george's.
S
The
the
item
related
to
the
appendix
is
the
the
appendix
outlined
the
projected
costs,
essentially
the
the
prospective
work
plan
for
the
2020.
S
We
would
be
doing
the
same
for
2023
and
I
guess
we,
as
the
county,
like
you,
are
with
the
city,
really
look
forward
to
solidifying
and
moving
this
work
forward.
And
as
part
of
that,
we
had
hoped
that
we
could
include
the
expenses
laid
out
for
the
cjc
prod
the
joint
cjc
projects,
the
joint
city
county
projects
in
the
appendix
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
come
back
to
either
body
each
time
to
to
request
permission
or
a
separate
contract
for
each
project
that
it
would.
N
And
perhaps
now
is
an
opportunity
time
for
me
to
just
note
that
from
the
legal
angle,
I
don't
I
don't.
It's
not
my
view
that
a
separate
contract
would
be
required,
which
I
think
is
mostly
a
productive
step
in
that
direction.
N
What
the
common
council
has
been-
and
I
guess
I'm
mostly
saying
this
for
council's
benefit,
but
as
council
knows
what
the
common
council
has
been
clear
about
in
prior
conversations
about
this,
is
that
council
wanted
an
opportunity
to
review
and
approve
the
work
plan
that
would
be
undertaken
and
and,
as
a
result,
the
contract
that
we
have
before
you
tonight
in
your
agenda
packet
provides
counsel
with
that
opportunity
to
review
the
work
that
will
be
undertaken,
as
it
gets
proposed
to
the
council
on
an
annual
basis
and
whether
that's
by
september
15
this
year
or
by
august
15
next
year
and
and
and
then
to
approve.
E
N
O
N
Plan
as
appropriated,
so
that
seems
like
the
appropriate
way
to
do
it,
and
the
contract
in
fact
then
provides
for
adding
that
approved
work
plan
into
the
appendix
day
that
that
the
county
and
george
some
have
referenced
so
I'm
so
that
would
still
be
present
in
that
form.
B
Lisa,
did
you
have
another
comment
or
question?
I
see
your
hand
up,
go
ahead.
S
I
think,
and
maybe
ari-
maybe
you
just
answered
it-
that
I
was.
I
think
we
were
viewing
in
part
that
the
appendix
was
in
in
essence
the
work
plan
or
tied
to
the
work
plan
so
that,
for
example,
for
what
we
submitted
and
what
we
had
intended
to
do
in
2021,
the
the
prospective
work
plan
for
2022
was
in
essence
appendix
a
so
that's
why
we
we
wanted
it
included.
I
think
that
that's
what
you
were
saying.
N
What
I'm
saying
is
that
the
common
council
will
need
to
have
the
work
plan
presented
to
it,
but
a
proposed
work
plan
presented
to
it
by
the
cjc
or
by
the
county,
and
I
think
it
sounds
like
that
date
will
likely
be
september
15
of
this
year,
which
makes
sense
under
the
circumstances,
and
then
council
can
review
it
deliberate
upon
it
and
approve
the
work
plan,
at
which
point
it
can
be
added
into
appendix
a
to
show
what
the
upcoming
work
of
the
cjc
will
be.
S
N
That's
a
useful
point,
and
I
think
it
may
mean
that
as
the
county
does
bring
forward
a
proposed
work
plan
for
23.
It
probably
behooves.
All
of
us
for
for
that
to
also
include
a
recitation
of
what
has
been
the
focus
in
2022,
so
that
some
council
is
looking
bad
at
that.
At
the
same
time,
but
fair
enough
yeah.
B
Yeah
and
I'll
I'll
just
add
what
we
are
interested
in
looking
at
are
more.
B
More
certain
costs-
and
we've
talked
about
this
in
our
meetings
on
monday
mornings,
where
the
budget
estimates
that
were
presented-
and
this
was
a
while
back-
were
just
that-
they
were
estimates,
and
it
was
clear
that
funding
requests
in
the
future
would
be
brought
before
the
legislature
and
the
council
for
for
approval.
So
we'd
be
looking
at
more
precise
cost
information
projections
based
on
the
the
work
plan
and
therefore,
the
costs
associated
with
the
work
plan.
If
that.
H
B
S
S
We
we
will
work
within
and
any
anything
else
would
would
need
to
be
come
forward
to
their
respective
bodies
for
for
further
modification
or
approval.
I
think
that
that's
the
common
understanding
of
of
how
how
we
would
we
would
operate
and
move
forward
the
other.
S
The
other
piece
of
the
what's
in
the
paragraph,
eight
of
the
contract
that
was
of
some
concern
to
the
county,
was
that
the
wording
that
it
shall
be
the
sole
sole
basis
for
city
financial
responsibility
under
this
agreement,
and
we
were
hoping
that
that
the
soul,
the
word
soul,
would
could
be
reconsidered,
as
so
that
we
could
have
the
flexibility
in
the
event
that
that
it's
needed
for
changes
to
funding.
N
And
I
would
just
note
for
the
I
appreciate
that
recess.
Thank
you
for
noting
that
I
would
note,
for
the
common
council's
benefit,
that
what
what
we
have
staff
have
heard
from
the
common
council
is
that
you
want
to
be
able
to
approve
the
work
plans
that
the
cjc
undertakes
before
they're
undertaken
and
the
that's.
What
paragraph
8
said.
Paragraph
8
says
that
the
city
will
pay
for
the
work
that
the
common
council
has
approved.
So
if
that
remains
council's
intent,
then
that
seems
an
approach.
N
Then
paragraph
eight,
as
drafted,
remains
appropriate.
B
Thank
you,
ari
cynthia.
I
see
your
hand
up.
L
S
Saying
the
the
projected
expenditures
for
the
cjc
which
were
outlined
in
appendix
a
were
par
and
part
of
the
the
joint
plans
for
reimagining
funding
was
put
in
the
county's
budget
for
those
for
that
work.
S
S
S
In
2021,
both
bodies,
all
of
the
actions
that
took
place
in
the
legislature
and
the
information
that
was
shared
with
the
legislature,
was
shared
with
common
council
step
by
step.
All
of
those
all
of
that
information
took
place
in
a
parallel
process
between
both
the
city
and
the
county.
So
there's
no.
I
don't
believe
that
there
is
a
work
plan,
I'm
calling
it
a
work
plan.
It
is
the
it
is,
the
the
agreed
upon
projects
and
the
estimated
cost
of
each
that
this
cjc
was
planning
to
undertake
in
2022.
L
So
for
staff
was
council,
given
this
work
plan
for
2022
in
the
past.
I
don't
recall
it,
but
maybe
I've
forgotten
well
again,.
B
It's
not
a
work
plan,
it
is
a
budget
estimates
for
the
reimagining
public
safety
draft
report
and
this
was
presented
by
the
county
and
the
city.
So.
B
N
So
again,
but
this
was
this
was
outlining
potential
joint
plans
and
council.
I
believe,
council
and
I
and
I
hear
lisa,
saying
that
the
county
legislature
as
well
set
aside
funding
to
potentially
fund
those
plans,
but
that's
a
very
separate
step
from
actually
reviewing
in
detail
a
proposed
work
plan
for
one
of
those
and
determining
that
that
is
what
council
wants
to
in
fact
pursue
with
city
funds,
which
is
the
distinction
that
we're
here
discussing
right
now.
N
What
what
staff
heard
from
the
common
council
in
this
process
is
that
council
wants
to
approve
the
work
plans
before
city
money
is
spent
on
them,
and
that
is
why
the
draft
contract
is
included
in
your
agenda
packet.
The
way
that
it
happened.
Okay,.
B
So-
and
this
may
be
stating
the
obvious-
but
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
distinct
from
the
staffing
funding
that
the
city
has
agreed
to
pay
50
of
the
cjc
staffing
and
that
amount
has
been
increased
at
the
county's
request
to
cover
an
additional
staff
person.
So
we're.
L
B
About
the
staffing
and
those
funds
are
in
unrestricted
contingency
and
then
there
is,
as
others
have
pointed
out,
the
budget
estimates
and
this
was
drafted
in
2021.
So
what
we
are
saying
is
it
will
be
helpful
in
a
work
plan
to
have
more
current
and
accurate
estimates
on
costs.
We
know
that
there's
going
to
be
need
for
some
flexibility
still,
but
there
I
am
hoping
will
be
a
bit
more
exact
information
than
there
was
in
2021
in
these
budget
estimates.
L
So
if,
if
I
could
continue
or
actually
ask
my
question,
so
I
am
looking
for
when
this
appendix
a
was
shared
with
council
in
the
past,
I
hope
that
can
be
clarified
for
us.
L
So
to
my
question:
when
we
talk
about
the
lease
term
going
back
to
the
intent
of
counsel
the
way
this
is
drafted
and
looking
at
the
memo,
we
did
want
to
give
the
cjc
the
opportunity
to
have
two
full
years
of
operation.
L
I
know
that,
as
as
was
mentioned,
the
director
has
been
brought
on
board,
but
we
have
not
yet
they
have
not
yet
hired
an
administrative
assistant
or
data
analyst.
The
the
work
plan
shared
and
approved
by
city
and
count
county
has
yet
to
be
done.
I
would
like
to
provide
a
full
two
years
for
that
for
the
cjbc
to
be
in
operation
and
would,
since
it
is
already
built
in
as
an
automatic
renewal.
L
That
would
allow
the
county
time
again
to
hire
the
additional
staff
to
have
the
clear
direction
forward
in
terms
of
their
work
plan
and
then
have
the
conclusion
of
the
work
be
completed
before
we
look
to
either
modify
or
renew
the
contract.
So
I
would
like
to
make
that
suggestion.
J
O
L
Item
seven,
it
commits
to
the
city
to
sharing
and
paying
for
staff
for
the
initial
year,
which
I'm
presuming
to
be
2022
at
this
point
and
then
says
that
it
will,
in
good
faith
endeavor
to
pay
for
staff
in
following
yours.
I
feel
like
we
could
be
more
gracious
and
and
demonstrate
our
commitment
to
the
cjc
by
committing
to
pay
for
staff,
fully
pay
for
staff
for
the
term
of
the
agreement,
and
I
would
like
to
change
item
seven
to
demonstrate
that
commitment
to
staff.
L
I
do
recognize
that
item
eight
pertains
to
giving
council
the
flexibility
to
approve
the
annual
work
plan.
I
like
that.
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
that
and
whatever
budgetary
considerations
that
comes
along
with
that
work
plan
should
be
an
additional
expenditure
to
which
we
commit
to
annually,
but
the
the
operations
expense
for
staff.
I
think,
should
be
solidified
in
item
seven
and
not
be
something
that
needs
to
be
additionally
approved
every
year.
Am
I
interpreting
the
agreement
in
the
correct
way?
L
All
right
or
am
I?
Is
it
assumed
that,
in
this
contract
we
actually
are
committing
for
the
duration
of
the
term
that
we
are
committing
to
operations
budgets,
as
well
as
the
whatever
work
plan
we
approve
and
the
budget
that
we
approve
every
year?.
N
Yeah
good
question.
Thank
you.
So
I
think
the
important
point
here
is
that
the
op,
what
we're
calling
the
operations
budget
for
staffing,
that
staff
will
be
working
on
something,
and
the
question
is
what
and
what
the
common
council
has
said
loud
and
clear.
That
common
council
wants
to
have
approval
authority
over
what
that
staff
is
working
on
to
the
extent
that
it's
funded
with
city
dollars
and
and
so
that's
what
paragraph
seven
and
eight
achieves
is
it.
N
N
Work
undertaken
that
the
city
that
the
common
council
has
actually
approved
as
part
of
the
work
plan,
and-
and
so
when
you
put
the
two
together,
what
they
say
is
that
the
city
and
the
county
need
to
agree
on
what
the
work
plan
will
be,
which
is
you
know,
the
very
nature
of
a
joint
enterprise
between
the
city
and
the
county,
and
once
that
is
agreed,
the
city
will
be
paying
for
half
of
these
fast
costs
that
go
into
doing
that.
Work.
L
So,
just
to
to
clarify
the
way
it
is
written
now
it
is
possible
that,
on
an
annual
basis,
the
council
could
say
no
we're
not
going
to
pay
for
the
data
analysts
or
we're
not
going
to
pay
our
portion
for
operations
staff,
because
we
don't
agree
with
the
work
plan
or
we
don't
agree
with
the
work
that
the
cjc
has
undertaken.
No.
N
No,
I
I
wouldn't
agree
with
that
characterization.
What
I
would
say
is
that
the
weight
is
drafted
now
the
work
plans
need
to
be
agreed
to
you
just
referred
to
particular
positions
in
the
staffing
the
city.
N
Power
over
saying:
well,
we
don't
want
to
pay
for
this
part
of
the
staffing,
but
we
do
want
to
pay
for
that.
The
question
would
be:
did
we
manage
to
agree
on
work
plans
that
actually
comprise
the
full-time
staffing
of
the
cjc?
Now,
obviously,
that
is
everybody's
objective
and
that's
what
it
says
right
there
in
paragraph
7,
is
that
the
city
will
endeavor
and
get
faith
to
agree,
but
if
you're
running
a
joint
enterprise-
and
you
have
to
agree
on
what
that
joint
enterprise
is
going
to
do,
then
you.
H
N
L
I
do
again
I
want
this
is
hard
work
right.
What
the
cjc
is
undertaking
is
very
difficult
work.
It
relies
on
building
relationships,
building
trust
in
the
community,
working
with
a
broad
variety
of
individuals.
Department,
heads
you
know,
representatives
for
communities
to
try
to
make
fundamental
change
in
how
we
approach
law
enforcement
in
the
city
and
in
the
county.
I
firmly
want
to
commit
to
the
staff
that
we
have
hired
for
this
purpose.
L
I
want
to
show
demonstrate
to
them
that
we
support
them
and
while
I
do
want
to
approve
annually
the
work
plan,
I
do
think
that
we,
we
can
start
at
the
very
least
by
demonstrating
commitment
to
support
the
staff
that
have
been
hired
for
the
duration
of
the
contract
and
and
take
out
the
language
that
in
any
way
indicates
that
that
commitment
towards
staffing
might
be
in
question
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
L
I
have
shared
with
with
my
council
colleagues
some
proposed
language
that
I
think
would
allow
us
to
retain
the
flexibility
with
regards
to
the
work
plan
and
demonstrate
our
commitment
to
staff
and
and
be
happy
at
the
end
of
our
discussion
to
to
make
some
motions
with
regards
to
those
changes.
B
B
Staffing
positions,
the
work
plan,
which
we've
discussed
and
that's
included
in
item
number,
eight
we've
added
flexibility
on
when
that
would
be
presented.
I
I
take
it
to
both
the
city
and
the
county,
having
greater
flexibility
and
latitude
to
develop
that
work
plan,
but
I
believe
that
there
is
a
commitment
to
the
the
staff
and
you're
right.
The
staff
will
be
working
on
implementation
of
the
joint
plans,
not
the
city-specific
reimagining
plans,
but
the
joint
plans
that
were
in
the
memos
of
2021.
I
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
want
to
echo
a
lot
of
the
sentiments
from
all
the
person
brock.
I
am
concerned
with
the
the
the
wordage
in
the
contract.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
same
way
that
we
want
to
maintain
a
commitment
to
re
the
plans
for
reimagining
and
for
the
community
justice
center
that
come
a
changing
of
of
council
sentiments
on
how
a
specific
aspect
of
a
project
may
be
handled
or
what
results
are
yielding
that
we
aren't
leaving
staff
who
we've
brought
on
for
this
exciting
new
aspect
of
reimagining,
public
safety
out
to
dry
and
and
and
and
unemployed.
I
With
with
the
year's
difference,
it
seems
like
a
very
volatile
situation
to
to
be
to
be
placing
a
lot
of
these
folks
and
and-
and
there
is
some-
it
seems
like
some
debate
on
whether
that's
like
that's
the
case
or
not,
given
the
interpretation
of
this
contract,
but
I
like
some
language,
ensuring
that
that
we
aren't
just
sort
of
leaving
you
know
a
lot
of
staff
at
will
of
the
approval
of
some
of
these
projects
is
something
I
can
get
behind
along
with
a
longer
timeline,
so
that
the
folks
at
the
cjc
can
provide.
I
You
know
valued
results
that
we
can
assess,
and
you
know,
aren't
just
rushed
for
the
sake
of
meeting
a
deadline.
I
don't
think
anyone
wants
that
at
all.
B
No,
I
agree,
I
don't
think
anyone
wants
rushing
yeah.
Absolutely
that's
been
central
to,
I
believe,
the
intent
behind
our
discussions
that
have
been
taking
place
weekly
ari
did
you
want.
N
Oh,
thank
you
yeah
for
sure
I'll
just
add
that
the
contract
doesn't
govern
the
employment
of
the
staff
of
the
cjc
staff
that
you
just
referred
to.
That
contract
governs
the
city's
financial
relationship
with
the
county
and
the
staff
will
be
employees
of
the
county,
which
is
precisely
the
reason
that,
in
order
to
honor
common
council's
stated
objective,
that
council
have
approval
authority
over
the
work,
that's
being
done
by
the
cjc.
N
That
council
will
need
to
approve
those
work
plans,
because
these
will
not
be
city
employees
and
they
will
be
county
employees
and
that's
where
the
county
can
direct
their
work
in
a
manner
that,
frankly,
the
city
can't
without
without
that
approval
authority
over
the
money.
But
again
the
money
is
about
the
financial
relationship
between
the
city
and
the
county.
The
employment
relationship
of
the
staff
is
with
the
county
of
their
employer.
S
You
I
I
appreciate
the
discussion
and
the
the
what
I'm
hearing
around
the
support
of
the
cjc
and
the
the
staff
which
I
I
know
both
entities
totally
agree
with,
and
I'm
I'm
just
back
to
the
that.
S
The
clause
that
the
annual
work
plan
and
budgetary
estimate,
as
approved
by
the
common
council
shall
be
the
sole
basis
for
city
financial
responsibility
that
does
to-
and
I
understand
from
the
county
from
others
at
the
county
legislature
does
imply
that
if
there's
a
disagreement
about
the
work
plan,
then
work,
then
then
funding
for
the
staffing
could
be
withheld.
If
that
is
the
sole
basis
for
all
city
financial
responsibility.
S
So
I
think
if
we
could
just
strike
the
word
soul,
I
think
we
we're
in
an
agreement
that
we
are
sharing
work
plans
for
approval
and
that
we
we
certainly
want
to
partner
with
the
city
or
with
with
the
work
on
the
cjc,
and
we
would
want
both
the
common
council
and
the
legislature
to
to
vote
and
approve
of
the
work
of
of
the
staff.
That's
all.
B
Thanks
lisa
I'll
turn
back
to
ari
in
a
moment,
but
right
now
I
see
robert's
hand
and
then
george
and
then
phoebe.
J
Thanks
laura
I'll,
be
very
clear
that
what
I'm
saying
right
now
is
not
emotion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
colleagues
know
I've
got
about
seven
more
minutes
before
I
have
to
leave
sounds
like
we.
Our
discussion
may
go
beyond
that.
We
may
not
get
to
a
vote
before
I
have
to
go,
but
I
just
want
to
let
everyone
know.
B
Rob
george
and
then
phoebe.
B
G
I
just
did
that
on
purpose
to
continue
my
reputation.
We
have
to
work
together
on
this,
the
county
and
the
city
for
it
to
work.
I
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
get
rid
of
that
word
soul.
B
K
Okay,
hi
again,
I
thought
I
was
confused
when
I
was
reading
it
now,
I'm
more
confused.
K
What
I'm
trying
to
understand
here
is
we
are
so
there.
The
cjc
is
employed
by
the
county.
K
Correct
all
right
and
we,
as
the
city
share
in
in
in
in
their
pay,
you
know
like
we
are
a
part
of
no
our
monies
help
to
pay
them
all
in
agreement.
For
that.
Yes,
now
to
understand
this
part
about
the
working
plan,
do
we
share
responsibility
in
the
working
plan
of
of
this
yearly
checking
the
working
plan,
and
do
we
share
responsibility
in
that
part?.
N
K
Yeah,
but
we
aren't
you
know,
so
we
won't,
it
won't,
be
our
responsibility
to
say.
Oh,
this
working
plan
is
not
working.
Maybe
we
need
new
staff.
So,
okay,
no.
H
N
What
will
the
work
plan
be
and
and
that
the
city's
financial
commitments
to
the
seats
through
the
county
for
the
formation
of
the
cjc
is
predicated
upon
the
idea
that
it
is
a
partnership
in
which
both
parties
need
to
agree
on
what
work
will
be
done
by
the
cjc.
B
Thanks
phoebe
cynthia.
L
I
would
like
to
move
the
proposed
changes
to
item
number
one
in
the
contract,
basically
to
move
the
termination
language
back
by
one
year
to
say.
The
initial
term
of
this
agreement
shall
begin
on
september,
1,
2021
and
expire
on
december
23rd,
20,
31
2024,
at
which
time
this
agreement
will
automatically
renew
for
an
additional
period
of
one
year,
expiring
on
december
31st
2025,
unless
either
party
has
notified
the
other
by
no
later
than
november,
15
2024
in
the
writing
of
its
determination.
L
So
to
not
renew
not
to
so
renew.
That
would
be
my
first
proposed
change.
L
Good
to
that
point,
ari,
I
maybe
I'm
I'm
making
a
a
judgment,
call
I'm
assuming
that
the
county
expects
the
cjc
to
continue
you
operating
after
the
end
of
2024
for
at
least
another
year.
N
I
imagine
that
both
the
common
council
and
the
county
legislature
intends
and
hopes
that
the
cjc
will
be
a
durable
entity.
But
it's
also
quite
clear
in
the
explicitly
stated
joint
city
county
memo
of
may
2021.
That's
included
in
the
agenda
packet
that
it
said
that
the
parties
wanted
to
try
it
out
for
two
years
and.
O
L
And-
and
I
do
believe
that
we
do
have
the
flexibility
at
the
end
of
2024
by
november
15th
to
say:
well,
our
work
is
done,
we've
succeeded,
we
don't
need
this
anymore
and
we
can
stop
so
it
does
allow
us
that
opportunity
to
not
extend
the
contract
by
one
year,
but
if
we
choose
not
to
do
that,
it
would
at
least
continue
for
another
year.
So
we
do
have
that
option.
B
So,
do
you
want
to
continue
to
make
an
amendment
that
the
county
has
not
agreed
to,
and
that
is
not
in
the
city's
language
to
change
not
just
to
expire
on
2024.
L
Term
shall
continue
through
the
end
of
2024,
so
the
two-year
period
will
basically
be
2022
or
2023
when
the
the
cjc
is
fully
staffed
and
2024,
and
then
we
can
terminate
it
at
the
end
of
2024..
L
That
is
the
the
motion
that
I'm
putting
forward.
I
have
gotten
the
sentiment
and
lisa
can
can
answer
this
question
if
this
is
something
that
the
council
or
the
county
legislature
would
support
the
feedback
that
I'm
getting
is
that
this
is
something
they
would
support,
but
I
would
look
to
lisa
to
clarify.
B
B
Well,
this
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
bring
back
to
our
regular
monday
meetings.
I
at
this
stage
do
not
support
what
you
are
currently
proposing,
because
that
has
not
been
discussed
at
all
by
the
county
or
the
city
by
our
joint
working
group.
So
I
would
want
to
bring
that
back
to
our
monday
meetings
rather
than
voting
on
extending
it.
S
I
would
say
also
at
this
stage
I'm
not-
I
wouldn't
be
authorized
to
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
legislature,
but
it's
certainly
something
we
could
bring
back
for
further.
H
N
Of
course,
from
this
procedural
angle,
of
course,
cynthia
would
need
to
decide
whether
she
wants
to
follow
her
emotion
or
whether
it
is
proceeding
to
a
vote.
At
this
point.
L
L
N
B
And
I
would
support
that
as
well.
George,
did
you
have
something
to
say
around
this
issue.
G
Yes,
I
do.
I
support
the
automatic
extension
to
give
to
give
this
a
full
two
years
trial,
which
is
what
we
agreed
to
in
the
beginning
to
add
a
third
year
and
to
delay
the
vote
and
to
reopen
the
negotiations
seems
like
a
pointless
complication
to
me.
I
think
it's
a
bad
idea
and
so
we've
given
the
county,
what
they
asked
for,
which
was
more
time
that's
in
this
contract,
and
I
I'd
prefer
to
stick
with
it.
B
Actually,
I'd
like
just
let
let
me
respond
to
georgia
for
me,
so
george,
I
want
to
be
clear
that
I
am
understanding
your
and
that
is-
and
let
me
just
clarify
the
dates
so
that
I
understand
so
that
I'm
sure
I
understand
what
you're
proposing
so
the
initial
in
number
one.
The
initial
terms
of
this
agreement
shall
begin
december,
1
2021
and
by
the
way,
that's
a
start
date
that
the
city
and
the
county
agree
on
we're,
not
we're
not
debating
the
start
date
at
all.
George.
N
B
B
We
still
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
will
ask
cynthia
again
if
you
want
to
continue,
have
a
vote
on
that
motion
or
to.
H
T
Thanks
laura
and
thanks
cynthia,
so
first
of
all,
I
agree
with
a
lot
of.
I
think.
What
is
the
general
sentiment?
You
know
we
understand.
This
is
really
difficult,
work,
that's
ongoing
and
just
to
get
started.
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
to
me,
and
perhaps
others
is
if
we
could
venture
a
characterization
of
where
this
work
really
stands.
Are
we
ahead
of
schedule?
Are
we
on
schedule?
Are
we
behind
schedule
we're
behind
schedule?
T
I
would
suggest
it
speaks
to
more
oversight,
bring
this
to
a
head
sooner,
so
that
we
can
really
evaluate
what
is
holding
up
the
project
if
we
are
getting
to
a
place
rapidly
where
this
project
is
going
to
take
off
and
we
can
guarantee
or
some
added
security
work.
Security
to
the
project
would
help
influence
more
creativity
on
the
ground
and
get
people
going
and
energized
to
really
see
this
through
to
fulfillment.
T
B
B
The
as
I've
said
earlier,
the
funds
for
the
staff
for
the
community
justice
center
exist
in
the
city's
unrestricted
contingency.
We
are
ready
and
and
very
eager.
I
will
add,
to
release
those
funds.
Those
funds
cannot
be
released,
however,
until
we
have
a
signed
contract,
and
so
there
is
a
project
director,
project
manager,
mona
lita,
smiley
and
she
has
come
to
common
council
and
given
updates.
B
There
is
not
a
data
analyst
yet
hired,
nor
is
there
an
administrative
assistant,
a
part-time
position
yet
hired
the
I
understand
from
the
county's
perspective,
the
search
and
hiring
of
the
data
analyst
and
the
administrative
assistant
rests
upon
the
the
contract
and
the
county,
knowing
that
there
is
a
signed
contract
between
these
two
bodies,
so
that
is
the
hold
up
the
hold
up
is
we
have
to
get
a
signed
contract
and
I'm
not
saying
that
for
a
purpose
of
rushing.
B
Believe
me,
we've
had
many
many
many
conversations,
so
in
no
way
am
I
either
describing
or
intending
to
put
any
rush
on
on
the
process,
but
what
I
think
the
community
justice
center
has
great
potential
and
I
look
forward
to
it
being
fully
operationalized
in
order
to
do
that,
we
must
have
a
contract
so
that
city
funds
can
be
released
and
phoebe.
I'm
sorry
before
I
turn
to
you.
Let
me
just
turn
back
to
my
colleague
to
lisa
to
ask
if
you
would
add
anything
additional
here.
S
I
I
don't
have
to
laura.
I
think
you
summed
it
up
what
we
would
say
as
well
that,
prior
to
proceeding
with
further
hiring
or
work
on
the
joint
plans,
we
were
wanting
to
finalize
the
contract
with
the
city,
and
I
think
once
we
have
that
in
place.
We,
like
you,
are
very
eager
to
to
get
to
work
on
the
joint
plans.
B
Thanks
lisa
phoebe
I'll
return
to
you.
K
K
I
think
what
the
council
and
I
could
be
wrong
concern
is
making
sure
that
it
is
solidified
that
she
that
that
we
we
protect
her,
making
sure
that
her
term
is
longer
or
solid
or
in
a
place
that
we
can
trust
that
she's
going
to
be
safe.
That's
my
feeling
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
her
and
when
the
other
staff
come
on
board
that
they,
their
positions,
is
in
a
safe
place.
B
No,
no,
I
I
think
you're
right
and
I
agree
with
you,
and
that
is
reflected,
I
believe
in
the
language
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
in
the
contract
that
includes
an
auto
renew
through
the
date
that
the
county
wanted
december
31
2024..
B
L
L
I
have
no
further
changes
to
my
motion
and
you
have
reiterated
that
the
cjc
is
not
fully
staffed,
yet
it's
not
up
and
running
yet.
I
think
that
two
years
should
start
in
2023
and
2024
to
demonstrate
a
commitment
to
staffing
and
to
this
contract
for
that
two-year
period
to
allow
for
a
look
back
at
the
end
of
the
two
years
when
the
cjc
has
been
fully
staffed.
L
I
do
think
that
we,
the
the
language
I
I
I
appreciate
the
language
of
the
automatic
renewal
because
it
allows
it
to
extend
without
just
saying
nope.
We
have
a
two-year
contract
and
it's
ended
it
it's
going
to
end
at
this
time.
Q
B
L
That's
right-
and
I
do
appreciate
that
in
our
memos
and
when
we
envision
this
in
2020
and
started
initiating
in
2021,
we
had
aspirations
that
this
would
happen
very
quickly
and
perhaps
a
two-year
period
seemed
right
at
that
time.
But
the
reality
has
been:
it's
been
a
slow
process.
It's
been
a
complicated
process.
I
think
we
have
every
recourse
at
our
disposal
to
say:
yeah,
okay,
let's
start
the
two
years
when
everything's
up
and
running,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
go.
Okay,
so.
B
Your
motion
continues
expire
on
december
31
2024,
with
an
auto
renew
expiring
december.
31
2025..
Is
that
what
you
are
moving?
Yes,.
B
Well,
let's
just
vote
on
what
you've
moved
and
I
do
want
to
call
the
question
on
this
voting
on
cynthia's
motion
so
that
we
can
move
forward
on
looking
at
the
contract
as
a
whole.
B
N
All
right-
and
there
are
only
eight
of
you
left
here
at
this
point,
so
that
requires
majority
of
full
common
council,
which
is
six
votes
for
a
motion
to
carry,
which
means
that
that
motion
fails.
K
Yes,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to,
because
when
I
hear
the
piece
about
the
work
plan
hasn't
started
it
it
it.
I
don't
know,
I
could
be
wrong,
but
it
sounds
like
we
are
not
acknowledging
the
work
that
mona
lita
has
been
doing.
Am
I
wrong
because
she
has
been
doing
some
work
and-
and
I
don't
want
that-
to
go
unnoticed.
B
B
B
Okay,
yes,
now,
cynthia.
L
Yes,
so
I
would
like
to
make
modifications.
I
I
have
a
motion,
changes
on
item
seven,
eight
and
nine.
I'm
trying
to
put
it
into
the
chat,
but
it's
not
doing
it
so
I'll,
see
what
I
can
do,
but
I'll
read
it
out
loud,
modify
item
7
to
articulate
that
the
funding
for
the
staff
should
be
separate
from
approval
for
the
work
plan.
L
L
L
So
it
would
read
such
annual
work
plan
and
budgetary
estimate,
as
ultimately
approved
by
common
council
parentheses,
approved
annual
work
plan
and
budget
shall
be
the
delete.
The
word
soul
basis
for
supplemental,
add
that
word
city,
financial
responsibility
under
this
agreement
once
approved
each
year,
shall
be
incorporated
by
reference
into
an
appendix
a
to
this
agreement.
L
Just
for
clarification,
I
would
add
to
the
sentence
that
goes
the
city
and
county
will
within
the
annual
budgetary
authorization
and
contribution
that
each
makes
towards
the
cjc
share,
evenly
all
expenses
for
the
joint
city,
county
elements
included
in
the
ad
annual
operational
budget,
comma
and
and
then
approved
annual
work
plan
and
budget
and
then
have
it
continue.
So
what
these
three
changes
will
do
is
it
demonstrates
a
commitment
to
the
annual
operational
budget
under
the
contract.
L
It
says
that
the
annual
work
plan
is
a
supplemental
obligation
that
the
city
will
con
commit
to
once.
It
approves
the
annual
work
plan
and
the
budget
and
then
item
nine
says
we
will
share
evenly
all
expenses
with
the
county
for
the
operational
budget
and
the
annual
work
plan
and
budget,
and
I
move
those
changes
as
a
packet.
B
L
L
Yeah,
whether
we
called
it
the
annual
operational
budget
or
the
operation
budget,
the
title
as
long
as
we
have
a
clear,
understandable
title,
I'm
happy
to
change
the
words
on
that.
But
I
do
think
it's
important
to
remove
the
initial
year
and
and
identify
that
we
are
committing
to
paying
for
the
operating
budget
every
year
during
the
contract.
And
it's
not
subject
to
annual
approval.
N
Well,
I
think
there
are
a
couple
issues
here
worth
clarifying.
One
is
that
reference
to
the
initial
year.
I
I
believe
the
reason
for
referring
to
the
initial
year
there
is-
and
perhaps
lisa
can
clarify.
This
actually
is
that
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
the
county's
costs
are
higher
in
subsequent
years
than
they
are
in
the
first
year,
and
the
county
will
still
be
looking
for
the
city
to
support
half
of
those
staffing
costs.
N
So
the
word
initial
year
there,
I
don't
believe
it's
fair
to
say
the
word
initial
year
was
included
in
the
contract
in
order
to
suggest
that
there
would
be
less
of
a
financial
commitment
on
the
city's
part
in
the
second
year
than
in
the
first
year.
I
think
the
word
initial
is
there
to
refer
to
the
fact
that
that's
the
dollar
amount
for
the.
N
Will
be
subsequent
years
that
may
have
different,
probably
higher,
to
be
honest
dollar
amounts.
Then
again,
common
council
would
need
to
review.
E
N
That
point,
but
that's
my
impression
from
that,
and
perhaps
I
should
pause
there
in
case
it
does
a
lot
away
before
I
go
on,
though
I
do
have
another
point.
G
It's
taken
a
long
time
to
negotiate
what
we
have
here
before
us
and
the
that's
so
much
change
on
the
on
the
floor
of
language.
I
I
can't
really
follow
it
all,
so
I
just
soon
stay
with
what
we
have
and
and
get
this
contract
signed,
because
that's
how
the
money
gets
released.
B
Thank
you,
george.
At
lisa,
did
you
have
a
comment?
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
I.
I
did
not
thank.
L
Why
did
you
say
more
yeah?
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
think
it
we
do-
have
an
opportunity
to
review
any
additional
costs
in
the
work
plan
and
budget
that
might
be
added,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
specify
out
that
the
operating
budget
of
staff,
as
described
in
the
contract,
is
a
commitment
during
the
duration
of
the
contract.
L
If
there
are
additional
costs,
if
the
costs
go
up,
we
do
have
item
eight
upon
which
we
can
approve
the
additional
costs
that
weren't
anticipated
at
the
time
of
the
contract.
So
there's
enough
flexibility
in
it,
but
what
it
does
do
by
setting
and
separating
out
the
operating
budget
from
what
we
are
approving
every
single
year
is
to
say
very
clearly
that
we
are
committed
to
funding
the
staff
that
has
been
hired
to
do
this
work,
regardless
of
the
work
plan,
approval
process.
L
So
again
those
changes,
the
deletion
of
during
its
initial
year
deletion
of
that
sentence.
That
includes
intending
good
faith
to
support
future
staffing
obligations
to
delete
that
sentence.
I
think
we
definitely
get
that
at
it
by
separating
it
out
in
this
way,
ari.
N
Oh
thanks
yeah.
I
just
want
to
note
for
council's
benefit
on
two
things.
One
later
in
paragraph
seven,
it
specifically
refers
to
supporting
the
full
year's
expenditure
of
this
budget
for
each
of
the
years
included
in
the
term
of
the
contract.
N
So
there's
no
there's
no
hidden
intention
here
to
only
fund
the
first
year
of
the
contract
differently
than
the
other
years,
and
secondly,
I
want
to
note
for
council's
benefit,
that
the
changes
that
cynthia
is
proposing
would
frankly
turn
on
its
head,
the
intent
that
I
believe
a
majority
of
the
common
council
expressed
during
council's
last
discussion
of
this
conflict.
N
Last
time
we
met
council
was
clear
that
it
wanted
approval
authority
over
the
work
plans
that
the
cjc
would
undertake
on
an
annual
basis.
The
common
council
annually
wanted
to
achieve
those
work
plans
before
city
money
was
expended
on
those
work
plans.
Most
of
that
work
will
be
done.
Much
of
that
work
in
any
event
will
be
done
by
cjc
staff,
which
of
course,
is
the
intent
of
forming
the
cjc,
and
so,
if
you
amend
the
contract
in
the
manner
that
cynthia
is
suggesting,
it
will
effectively.
N
Negate
common
councils,
on
stated
intents,
to
have
approval
authority
over
the
work
that
the
cjc
is
doing
before
it
does
that
work,
because
cynthia
has
proposed
amendments,
that
would
say
the
cjc
staff
will
go
ahead
and
be
funded
to
do
whatever
work,
the
county
and
again
they
are
county
employees
sets
them
up
to
do,
and
the
common
council
will
have
approval
authority
over
supplemental
projects.
In
addition
to
that
base
work
in
addition
to
the
138
000
of
city
money
that
would
be
spent
each
year
on
staffing
that
the
common
council
could
approve.
N
What
amounts
then
cynthia's
word
was
supplemental.
Supplemental
projects
is
what
that
would
end
up,
meaning
in
addition
to
that
138
000
of
city-funded
work
and
again
it's
double
that
amount
for
the
total
staff,
because
the
county
is
paying
for
the
other
half.
So
I
just
want
council
to
understand
that
what
cynthia
has
proposed
would
definitely
not
support
the
stated
objective
that
council
provided
staff
with
at
council's
last
discussion
regarding
this
country.
L
I
I
don't
think
that
expressing
commitment
to
support
the
staffing
budget
for
the
duration-
again
we're
just
talking
for
an
additional
two
years
to
the
end
of
2024-
means
that
we
don't
have
the
the
authority
to
approve
the
work
plan
which
is
protected
under
item
eight.
If,
if
we
don't
want
to
have
the
word
supplemental,
then
we
can
remove
it,
but
I
do
agree
with
removing
the
word
soul.
L
We
are
partners
in
this
effort
of
police
reform.
I
do
have
tremendous
faith
in
our
county
partners
to
to
steer
and
direct
its
staff
in
a
way
that
is
supportive
of
city
efforts,
and
even
efforts
outside
of
the
city
definitely
support
the
city,
and
you
know,
I
think
it's
highly
cynical
to
put
into
an
agreement
a
situation
where
we
might
not
provide
funding
for
county
staff
to
support
reimagining
public
safety
on
this
city
joint
county
joint
effort.
L
I
think
it
we
are.
We
are
partners,
we
have
to
go
into
this
with
good
faith
and
and
I'm
I'm
afraid
that
the
way
it's
written
is
does
not
provide
a
good
framework
upon
to
build
relationships
that
that
we
rely
on
for
a
myriad
of
efforts.
You
know
whether
or
not
we're
talking
about
tcat,
which
we
discussed
earlier
today,
whether
or
not
we're
talking
about
the
homeless,
whether
or
not
we're
talking
all
about
a
whole
myriad
of
issues.
We
need
to
come
forward
with
good
faith
and
well.
B
I
just
wanna
I
do
want
to
keep
us
moving
forward.
I
I
think
the
discussion
is
healthy,
but
let's
stay
sort
of
on
track
and
keep
this
discussion
and
hopefully
reaching
some
decisions.
It's
it's
interesting
that
you
just
use
the
word
in
good
faith
twice
and
in
number
seven.
I
would
offer
that
we
should
keep
the
sentence
that
says
the
city
intends,
in
good
faith,
to
support
the
full
year's
expenditure
of
this
budget
for
each
of
the
years
included
in
the
term
of
this
contract.
H
B
Think
it
speaks
to
the
the
partnership
and
you're
stating
what
the
discussions
weekly
between
the
city
and
the
county
have
been,
that
that
we
are
partners
in
this
together.
B
B
You
said
you
did
not
want
them
voted
on
independently
because
you
see
them
as
integrally
related
one
to
the
other.
Would
you
accept,
as
friendly
in
number
eight
to
simply
remove
the
term
soul
that
it
shall
be
the
basis
for
city
financial
responsibilities
under
this
agreement.
L
No,
I
I
again
because
we
have
item
nine
that
says
the
city
and
county
will,
within
the
annual
budgetary
authorization
and
contribution,
evenly
share
all
expenses
for
the
annual
operational
budget,
which
is
item
seven
plus
the
approved
annual
work
plan,
which
is
item
eight.
L
It
commits
the
funding
of
staff
separate
from
the
approval
of
the
work
plan,
and
I
do
think
that
all
three
held
together
you
know,
even
with
the
deletion
of
that
sentence.
That
says
the
city
intends
in
good
faith
item
nine
says
we
will
commit
to
the
annual
operating
budget
that
we
will
fund
it,
and
I
do
believe
it's
protective
in
that
way.
B
Okay,
so
you
want
all
three
voted
on
together.
Let's
move
that
to
a
vote,
then
I
do
all
those
in
favor
of
the
three
amendments
proposed
by
cynthia.
B
That
looks
like
it's
three
in
favor
and
five
against
that
emotion.
If
I've
counted
that
motion,
I
think
I
said
emotion.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
very
tired.
Someone
please
correct
me
if
I
miscounted,
but
I've
got
a
three
to
five,
so
the
motion
fails.
B
G
Yeah
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
remove
one
word,
and
that
is
the
word
soul.
G
B
And
I'm
sorry,
I
was
looking
down.
Was
there
a
second
rob
gerhardt
seconds.
B
L
H
Or
yeah
so.
N
It's
very
standard
in
city
contracts,
where
the
city
is
paying
money
for
operations
that
are
being
provided
by
some
other
entity,
in
this
case
the
county.
It's
very
standard
that
that
other
entity
that
will
have
control
of
the
operations,
in
this
case
the
county's
control
of
county
employees
for
the
other
entity
to
indemnify
the
city
for
liabilities
that
may
arise.
O
N
Those
county
operations,
so
the
city's
proposals
throughout
these
contract
negotiations
have
included
county
insurance
requirements
and
indemnification
that
would
be
provided
to
the
city
to
protect
the
city
from
any.
N
That
arise
now.
Let
me
be
clear
that
there
are
no
particular
liabilities
that
seem
unique
to
the
cjc's
operations.
It
doesn't
seem
likely
to
give
rise
to
any
particular
liabilities.
So
I
don't
view
this
as
a
major
issue,
one
way
or
another
and
as
a
result,
the
county
and
as
a
result
of
the
draft
before
you
tonight,
does
not
reflect
the
city's
long
time
negotiating
position
on
the
matter,
which
is
that
the
county
should
indemnify
the
city
and
not
the
other
way
around.
N
Instead,
the
draft
in
your
agenda
packet
tonight
seeks
to
strike
a
compromise
in
the
nature
of
along
the
lines
that
the
county
has
been
requesting,
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
county
is
not
reviewed,
or
at
least
I
have
not
heard
feedback
from
the
county
on
this
precise
language
in
your
agenda
packet.
But
I
do
want
to
be
clear
that
the
language
in
the
agenda
packet
says
that
each
party
will
indemnify
the
other
for
any.
N
You
can
look
at
the
exact
language
there,
but
for
negligence
or
wrongdoing
of
the
indemnifying
party,
and
that
certainly
takes
a
major
step
closer
to
the
county's
request
that
for
mutual
indemnification.
So
that
is
what
is
reflected
there
tonight.
It
is
not
frankly
standard
to
city
contracts.
N
A
much
more
standard
approach
for
a
city
contract
would
be
that
where
another
party
is
has
control
over
the
operations,
in
this
case
the
employer
of
the
ckc
employees
that
that
party
would
be
indemnifying
the
city
and
not
the
other
way
around.
But
this
contains
mutual
incentives,
but.
B
We
did
discuss
this
in
our
meetings
on
monday
mornings
and
I
think
clarified
it.
Would
you
agree
with
that
assessment?
Lisa.
S
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
on
the
contract
as
it
now
is
in
front
of
us,
the
one
change
is
in
number
eight.
B
H
N
Laura,
I
believe,
the
other
issues
that
seem
to
have
brought
agreement
on
council,
but
I
don't
believe
it
actually
got.
A
vote.
Tonight
was
the
september
15th
date
in
2022,
while
preserving
the
august
15th
date
for
subsequent
years.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
We
did
raise
that
so
I
will
move
changing
the
date
changing
in
number.
Eight,
the
cjc
shell.
No
later
than
september,
15
2022.
B
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
thanks
for
that
reminder
I
would
have
would
have
overlooked
that
I
have
one
other
edit
that
I'd
like
to
offer,
and
that
is
in
number
10.
B
That's
a
minor
edit
rob:
were
you
seconding
that
all
in
favor
of
that
minor
edit
great
great?
Thank
you!
B
S
I'm
sorry,
I
know
that
you're.
This
is
the
moment
we
all
are
waiting
for.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing,
and
that
is
the
the
work
plan
for
2022
for
the
current
year.
You
would
the
city
which
would
include
the
same,
the
funding,
estimates,
etc.
S
B
So,
allowing
that
flexibility
by
moving
that
date-
okay,
yes
to
the
september.
B
Sure,
and
thank
you
sorry,
I
didn't
see
your
hand.
It's
a
busy
screen.
Sometimes
it's
easier
when
we're
all
in
the
same
room
together
and
sometimes
not
okay.
Are
we
now
ready
to
vote
all
right?
All
those
in
favor.
B
Opposed
that
is
seven
to
one
so
it
passes.
Thank
you
very
much
and
lisa.
I
really
want
to
express
thanks
to
you
for
not
only
the
conversations
that
we've
been
having
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
also
for
joining
us
tonight,
and
not
only
answering
some
questions
but
adding
perspective.
So
thanks
so
much
thanks.
B
Thanks
now,
don't
the
others
of
you
go
away
just
yet
we'll
now
move
on
to
other
member
filed
items,
the
first
of
which
is
approval
for
authorization
to
execute
memoranda
of
agreement
with
ipb.
The
pba.
I'm
sorry-
and
this
has
to
do
with
lateral,
hires
lateral
transfers
to
the
police
department
resolved
that
the
common
council
approves
the
proposed
memorandum
of
agreement
between
the
city
of
ithaca
city
and
the
ethical
police.
B
Benevolent
association
pba,
providing
a
monetary
incentive
to
persons
legally
authorized
to
serve
as
police
officers
in
the
state
of
new
york
and
deemed
appropriate
for
hire
by
the
ithaca
police
department.
The
department,
in
the
amount
of
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
officer
hired
to
transfer
laterally
to
the
department
and
commit
to
service
within
the
department
for
not
less
than
two
years
such
incentive
to
remain,
in
effect
until
december
31st
2023,
and
be
a
further
result
that
the
common
council
approves
the
proposed
moa
between
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
pba.
B
Providing
that
officers
who
have
one
or
more
years
of
service
in
another
department
who
transfer
laterally
to
the
department
shall
be
hired
at
the
step
to
salary
rate
set
forth.
In
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
pba
and
officers
who
have
two
or
more
years
of
service
in
another
department
who
transfer
laterally
shall
be
hired
at
the
step,
3
salary
rate
set
forth
in
the
cba.
B
Such
provisions
will
remain
in
effect
until
december
31
2023,
at
which
time,
unless
this
moa
is
extended,
the
parties
will
revert
to
the
current
provision
under
which
an
officer
transferring
lateral
laterally
to
the
department
must
have
five
or
more
years
of
service
with
their
prior
department
to
be
hired
at
the
step
three
salary
rate
and
be
it
for
the
result
that
the
acting
mayor
is
authorized
to
fully
execute
the
proposed
memorandum
of
agreement
on
behalf
of
the
city
in
substantially
the
form
submitted
herewith,
and
I
so
move.
Is
there
a
second.
B
Ducks-
and
I
saw
your
hand,
go
up
first
and
acting
chief
jolie
is
here
with
us
this
evening,
as
is
hr
director
shelly
michelle
nunn.
I
will
just
add
that
this
is,
in
my
view,
a
desire
to
potentially
hire
and
diversify
the
ethical
police
department
by
allowing
for
lateral
transfers
to
fill
vacancies
and
also
any
anticipated
retirements,
and
there
may
be
some
in
the
future.
B
It
will
save
the
city
funds
and
I'll
open
it
up
for
any
discussion
and
also
for
any
points
either
from
the
chief
or
from
shelley
but
rob
gerhardt.
I
see
your
hand
up
first.
U
Yeah,
thanks
laura.
I
hope
everyone
can
hear
me.
I
don't
have
a
very
great
internet
connection
here,
but
I'll
do
my
best:
okay,
good
yeah.
I
support
this
idea.
I
think
in
an
era
where
we're
having
challenges
in
finding
officers.
This
is
a
tool
that
is
common.
I'm
sure
shelley
can
give
us
more
information
about
that.
O
B
Is
clarified
in
the
moa
document
shelley,
do
you
want
me
to
respond
to
that?
Do
you
want
to
respond
to
that.
O
B
Moa
in
the
packet-
and
if
you
look
at,
I
think
it's
number
three,
the
incentive
amount
and
payment.
N
Yeah,
no,
no
you're
exactly
right
and
then,
and
that
was
intended
to
maximize
the
sort
of
incentive
capacity
of
of
the
offer
given
of
ipd's
pretty
entire
staffing
situation
at
the
moment.
If
you
then
look
down
in
exhibit
a
if
you
scroll
a
few
more
pages
down,
there's
a
document
there's
a
portion
of
a
document
labeled
exhibit
a
and
number
three
in
that
exhibit
a
sets
out
the
consequences
of
premature
termination,
which
is
to
say
that
there's
a
claw
back
employee
were
to
leave
too
early.
V
And
rob
to
answer
your
question
about
how
typical
it
is,
it's
actually
probably
more
typical
that
employers
are
paying
everything
up
front,
but
so
this
this
provides
at
least
some
assurances.
W
I
think
yeah,
shelly
and
ari
covered
most
of
it,
but
I
was
I
was
just
gonna
comment
on
the
initial
15
000
dollar
incentive
that
we
had
tried.
We
kind
of
spread
the
payment
out
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
clawbacks
and
I
think
it
just
kind
of
diluted
the
impact.
So
I
think
we're
hoping
that
this
would
be
more
attractive
way
to
try
to
to
get
some
qualified
applicants
and
we
have
two
which
we're
hoping
to
two
laterals
in
the
process
right
now
which
we
are
hoping
to
hire.
G
I
have
a
question
about
this:
the
salary
rates
I
can
see
an
officer
with
one
or
more
years
of
service,
starting
with
us
at
step,
two
salary,
the
step
the
bump
to
step
three
after
two
years
of
service
seems
like
a
lot
if
it's
currently
required
after
five
years-
and
I'm
wondering
is
that
necessary,
and
I'm
also
wondering
how
does
that
affect
the
officers
we
have
now.
If
somebody
comes
in
and
all
of
a
sudden
they're
at
step,
three
and
salary
level.
W
George,
I
can
comment
to
that,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
this
just
makes
us
more
competitive
that
we
actually
had
an
applicant
that
was
a
certified
police
officer.
New
york
state
that
was
from
topkins
county
reached
out
to
us
interested
and
the
sheriff's
department
offer,
is
able
to
bring
people
in
at
higher
step.
So
we
actually
lost
that
candidate
to
the
sheriff's
run,
because
our
starting
pay
for
the
lateral
was
not
as
competitive
as
the
sheriff's
department.
W
So
I
know
it
seems
like
we're
expediting
it,
but
it's
just
to
try
to
attract
candidates,
we're
competing
with
virtually
every
department
in
the
state
for
the
same
pool
of
laterals.
W
It
would,
I
don't
believe
it
bumps
them
above
any
other
laterals.
It
is
possible
that
they
would
start
higher
than
someone
that
was
hired
off
our
list
without
experience.
Yes,.
G
Yeah
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
modify
this
a
little
bit
and
say
we
have
three
or
more
years
of
service.
If
that
would
be
more
fair.
N
N
W
W
If
they
have
completed
three
years,
they
would
be
topped
out
already
within
ipd,
so
this
person
would
come
in
at
step
three,
as
opposed
to
basically
starting
step
four.
If
someone
had
completed
three
years
here.
W
V
B
Thank
you,
shelley
that
clarifies
and
phoebe
did.
You
have
a
question.
K
B
B
We
would
see
greater
diversity
in
racial
diversity,
gender
diversity,
backgrounds
in
the
police
department
and
to
incentivize
lateral
transfers
from
another
area
in
new
york
state
may
result
it.
It
is
no
guarantee,
first
of
all,
there's
no
guarantee
that
we
will
get
lateral
transfers
within
that
there's
no
guarantee
that
we
would
get
a
more
diverse
higher,
but
that
would
be
a
hope
that
we
would
have
greater
opportunity
to
diversify.
B
For
me,
what
it
means
is
greater
representation
that
may
reflect
our
community
better
shelly.
I
think
I
just
cut
you
off.
I'm
sorry
did
you
want
to
go
ahead.
V
No,
that
was
okay,
yeah,
I
I
would
just
say
phoebe
at
the
lateral
it
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
go
after,
I
would
say,
an
increased
pool
of
diverse
candidates.
V
This
the
the
lateral
has
already
taken
a
test.
We
struggle
a
lot
with
with
the
test,
and
you
know
for
all
the
reasons
that
we
know
about
standardized
testing.
So
you
know
we
we
we
recruit,
we
get
good
candidates
but
they're,
not
necessarily
in
the
top
three
going
after
laterals
you
they've
already
taken
the
exam
they've
they've
been
to
the
the
academy,
so
our
chances
of
being
able
to
hire
more
diversity
is
actually
greater
with
going
after
laterals.
V
Thank
you
and
biodiversity.
I
do
meet
people
of
color
people
who
reflect
people
with
different
gender
identities.
Yes,
those
who
are
marginalized,
yes,.
B
Thank
you
shelley
much
better,
more
clear
response
than
than
I
was
giving.
Thank
you
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
this
resolution.
B
Thank
you
thanks
very
much,
and
thanks
chief
for
being
here
thanks
shelley
for
adding
that
we'll
now
move
on
to
3.2.
B
This
is
to
authorize
commuter
park
and
ride
at
the
farmers
market
at
steamboat
landing,
whereas.
B
B
Moving
on,
where
is
the
ithaca
farmers
market
cooperative
inc
ifm,
seeks
approval
for
a
50
vehicle
commuter
park
and
ride
operation
as
an
accessory
use
of
the
city-owned
steamboat
landing
site
and
whereas,
as
of
2010,
the
city
leases,
the
5.8
acre
steamboat
landing
site
to
the
ithaca
urban
renewal
agency
and
the
iura
sub
leases,
the
site
to
the
farmers
market
cooperative,
to
operate
a
producer
to
consumer
market
of
locally
grown
and
crafted
goods,
and
whereas
the
leased
property
contains
a
large
market
pavilion,
a
dock
and
over
300
parking
spaces
developed
and
maintained
by
ifm,
and
whereas
the
lease
property
is
authorized
for
one
a
producer
to
consumer
market
featuring
locally
grown
craft
goods
at
least
two
days
per
week
for
at
least
six
months
of
the
year,
two
rental
of
the
pavilion
to
others
for
occasional
events
and
three
any
other
additional
use
by
ifm,
subject
to
the
consent
of
the
iura
and
mayor.
B
However,
the
least
property
shall
remain
open
at
times.
The
market
is
not
in
operation
for
use
by
the
general
public
for
passive
non-exclusive,
low-impact
and
low-intensity
recreational
uses
and
whereas
ifm
currently
operates
a
farmers
market
on
weekends
april
through
november,
and
whereas
the
leases
specify
that
neither
the
city
nor
the
iura
are
under
any
obligation
to
maintain
any
internal
roads
and
parking
areas,
including
snow
removal
and
whereas
plan
ithaca.
The
adopted
city,
comprehensive
plan
supports
strategies
to
reduce
the
number
of
single
occupant
vehicles,
including
provision
of
transit
and
park
and
ride
facilities.
B
Signage
shall
be
approved
by
the
city,
director
of
parking
and
transportation
and
commercial
general
liability
insurance
shall
be
carried
by
any
commercial
operator
of
the
park
and
ride
listing
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
r.u.r.a
as
additionally
insured
parties
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
the
mayor,
subject
to
review
by
the
city
attorney,
is
hereby
authorized
to
execute
any
and
all
documents
to
implement
this
resolution,
and
I
so
move.
Is
there
a
second
rob?
Thank
you.
B
We
were
speaking
earlier
and
there
were
some
public
comments
about
the
need
to
look
to
public
transit,
the
need
to
address
the
number
of
single
occupancy
vehicles,
especially
on
our
roads,
and
this
is
one
of
those
measures
that
in
fact,
does
that.
So
I'm
very
pleased
that
we
have
this.
This
resolution
any
questions
any
discussion,
george.
G
I'm
just
curious
what
the
lease
is
between
the
city
and
the
iura
and
the
farmers
market.
What
does
the
farmer's
market
pay
for
the
lease
of
the
city
land?
Does
anybody
know
at
this
point.
O
Yes,
I
can
give
you
an
approximate
number:
it's
not
the
exact
number.
I
believe
it's.
G
G
B
B
That
calls
for
the
apportionment
of
the
cost
such
program
to
be
born
at
the
ratio.
80
percent
federal
funds
and
20
percent
non-federal
funds,
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
desires
to
advance
the
project
by
making
a
commitment
of
100
of
the
non-federal
share
of
the
costs
of
scoping
and
preliminary
design,
detailed
design,
construction
and
construction
inspection.
B
B
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
of
ithaca
common
council
hereby
authorizes
the
city
to
pay.
In
the
first
instance,
100
of
the
federal
and
non-federal
share
of
the
cost
of
scoping
preliminary
design,
detailed
design,
construction
and
construction
inspection
thereof,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
common
council
hereby
amends
the
project
to
add
3
million
485
000
for
a
total
of
three
million
eight
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
be
it
for
the
result
that
funds
needed
for
said
project
shall
be
derived
from
the
issuance
of
serial
bonds
with
the
city.
B
Estimated
share
of
the
project
cost
not
to
exceed
20
or
770
000,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that,
in
the
event,
the
full
federal
and
non-federal
share
costs
of
the
project
exceeds
the
amount
appropriated
above
council
shall
convene
as
soon
as
possible
to
appropriate
appropriate
said.
Excess
amount.
Immediately.
B
Upon
the
note,
notification
by
the
dot,
therefore,
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
ithaca
and
of
the
county
of
tompkins
b
and
is
hereby
authorized
to
sign
all
necessary
agreements
with
dot
to
secure
federal
aid
and
marcoselli
aid
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
superintendent
of
public
works
is
authorized
to
sign
all
necessary
construction
documents,
contracts,
certifications,
reimbursement,
requests
via
further
resolve
that
the
superintendent
of
public
works
is
hereby
authorized
to
administer
the
above
project
and
be
it
for
the
result
that
a
certified
copy
of
this
resolution
be
filed
with
the
new
york
state
commissioner
of
transportation,
by
attaching
it
to
any
necessary
agreement
in
connection
with
the
project,
and
it
is
further
resolved
that
this
resolution
shall
take
effect
immediately
and
I
so
move
for
a
second
on
this
resolution.
B
Rob
g,
thank
you,
and
I
will
just
point
out
that
we
adisu
is
here
with
us,
can
answer
any
questions.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
federal
funding
that
has
been
made
available
and
I
s
I
will
see
steve
smiling
as
we
talk
about
the
availability
of
funding
support
for
such
a
much
needed
project.
B
So
george,
I
see
your
hand,
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
then
we'll
we'll
turn
it
over
to
a
d?
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
have
a
question
for
id
soon,.
R
The
bridge
is
not
in
current
or
immediate
danger
as
of
now,
but
over
the
last
few
years
we
had
to
make
emergency
repairs
because
of
the
red
flags
we
received
from
deoty's
inspection
and
the
bridge.
The
last
time
we
did,
the
city
did
a
major
repair.
Work
was
about
maybe
39
40,
maybe
45
years
ago.
R
That's
just
for
bridge
things
are
super
structure
replacement.
Usually
we
estimated
about
30
years
30,
35
years
time
for
major
rehabilitation
work.
So
this
is
almost
over
its
age
and
as
of
now,
we
do
have
a
yellow
structural
flag
because
of
the
section
loss,
the
steel
is
kind
of
corroding
and
you
know
through
time
it's
going
to
lose
its
carrying
capacity
over
time.
So
I
would
say
it's
not
in
immediate
danger,
but
if
we
wait,
you
know
that
we
would
probably
be
forced
to
close
the
bridge.
B
Thank
you,
adison
george.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
That
was
exactly
what
I
was
hoping
that
we
would
touch
upon.
I
will
just
add
that
delaying
this
major
project
like
this
could
further,
as
adisu
indicated,
you
know,
erode
the
condition
of
the
bridge,
but
it
can
also
cost
the
city
potentially
in
terms
of
emergency
repairs.
B
R
Not
really
I
mean
we,
we
spent
the
last
two
years
on
design
phase
again.
Council
already
authorized
365
000
for
for
the
for
scoping,
preliminary
and
final
design,
phase
of
the
project-
and
you
know
usually
80
percent
of
the
fund-
is
covered
by
the
federal
government.
Fifteen
percent
by
the
state
through
the
march
sell
event
and
five
percent
by
by
the
city
and
for
construction
phase.
Again
we
applied
the
city
applied
or
outlined,
and
we
secured
about
one.
R
I
think
one
point:
seven:
five
million
dollars
through
the
earmark
the
most
recent
earmark
funding,
which
is
eighty
percent
federal
and
twenty
percent
local.
This
doesn't
have
a
state's
share,
but
the
other
portion
of
the
construction
fund,
which
is
about
1.7
million
dollar.
There
is
also
a
possibility
of
getting
50
states
reimbursement
on
top
of
80
percent
federal
reimbursement.
R
I
I
know
I
put
770
000
responsibility
for
the
city,
but
again
that's
because
I
don't
know.
As
of
now,
we
don't
know
exactly
how
much
the
state
will
reimburse
us,
but
I
would
you
know.
If
you
ask
me
to
estimate,
we
would
probably
recover
about
300
000
of
300
000
out
of
the
770
000,
so
plus
or
minus
the
series
exposure
would
be
400
for
between
400
and
450
000,
and
we
have
to
remember
you
know
this
is
a
75
year
investment.
R
This
will
outlast
almost
every
one
of
us
here
in
generational
investment.
The
federal
government
was
generous
enough
to
you
know,
provide
this
funding.
So
to
me
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
you
know
to
take
advantage
of.
B
You
thank
you
adisu
cynthia.
I
see
your
hand.
L
Thank
you
adecio.
It's
always
good
to
see
you.
P
H
L
Agenda
and
I
do
believe
that
we
had
some
choices
to
make
in
terms
of
what
would
be
included
in
the
rebuild.
I
also
know,
obviously,
as
we
all
do,
six
mile
creek
is
subject
to
high
water
events.
I'm
curious
is
if
replacement
of
the
bridge
abutments
is
included
and
what
improvements
will
be
made
to
allow
the
bridge
to
be
more
resilient
to
these
high
water
events,
for
that
would
last
outlast
all
of
us.
If
you
could
describe
that
a
little
bit,
please.
R
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
a
good
question.
Actually,
if
anyone
is
interested,
the
designer
reports
is
already
posted
on
the
cd
website.
R
I
believe
not
the
final
design
reports,
the
preliminary
design
phase,
the
primary
design
reports
is
posted
on
the
cdu
website
and
we
also
have
a
pamphlet
we
prepared
for
the
public
information
meeting.
I
think
that's
already
also
posted
on
the
cd
website.
We
could
you
could
go
and
access
for
more
information
or,
if
you
directly
directly
contact
me,
I
could
also
send
the
most
recent
updated
version
of
the
report.
R
But
to
answer
your
question,
this
will
be
a
bridge
replacement
project.
We
will
replace
both
abutment
the
substructure
and
the
superstructure
and
in
terms
of
bridge
section,
we
will
again,
the
current
bridge
doesn't
satisfy
the
most
updated
new
york
state
design
guidelines
and
we
will
make
sure
this
this
again.
This
will
be
a
75
years
infrastructure
and
we
will
follow
each
guidelines
and
requirements
and
based
on
that,
we
are
planning
a
certain
13
feet,
wide
lane
or
two
certain
feet.
R
One
lane
gonna
be
a
shared
lane
and
we
were.
We
are
considering
a
wider
sidewalk.
I
think
eight
feet
wide
side
of
both
sides.
This
will
be
a
wider,
wider
sidewall,
a
wider
bridge
than
what
we
currently
have.
That
also
consider
you
know
future
demands,
and
I
think
maybe
I
will
refer
this
question
to
tim,
or
there
is
also
a
bike
boulevard
plan
using
south
albany
street
in
the
future,
so
that
we
make
sure
you
know
the
the
the
bridge
lane
weeds
also
accommodates
bike
at
bike
demand.
R
Well,
that's
why
the
reason
that
that's
the
reason
why
we
have
a
certain
wide
shared
lane
instead
of
the
standard
11
feet
wide
traffic
light.
Otherwise
we
we
also
have
a
major
intersection
improvement.
R
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
there
lately,
you
know
the
bridge
is
kind
of
you
know
higher,
and
you
know
the
intersection
is
very
low
and
that
also
require
us
to
do
a
lot
of
work
that
will
also
address
any
flooding
issue,
ponding
issues
inside
distance
issues
as
well,
and
and
maybe
to
one
of
your
questions
again.
We
are
using
and
following
the
new
york
star,
new
york
state's
standard
specification
and
any
design
guidelines,
bridge
manuals
and
everything
and
we
are
making
sure
we.
R
Finally,
record
correctly,
we
have
to
satisfy
a
hundred
a
year,
flood
level
or
or
a
50
year,
plus
two
feet:
free
board
a
50
year,
flood
plus
a
two
feet
additional
freeboard,
so
we
satisfied
boss.
Actually,
speaking
of
that,
we
had
the
back
end
force
with
the
states,
because
the
more
you
push
you
know
and
have
a
wider,
you
know
opening
you
are
pushing
the
bridge
out.
R
That
also
affects
you
know
the
intersection
and
we
have
to
you
know,
deal
with
a
number
of
other
technical
issues,
but
we
finally
appreciate-
and
we
coordinated
with
the
fire
chief
for
any
fire
truck,
turns
and
and
all
other
issues,
so
we
finally
got
the
okay
from
the
states.
Actually,
that's
why
the
reasons
they
send
us.
You
know
the
final
agreement
and
they
authorized
construction
funding.
R
R
We
have
travel
tests
for
three
weeks,
but
our
plan,
as
of
now,
is
just
to
build
the
bridge
or
start
construction
at
least
early
spring
next
year
and
be
able
to
reopen
the
bridge
by
let's
say
by
septem
and
not
september
october
november
november.
Timeline.
K
I
he
the
question
was
answered.
I
really
wanted
to
know.
When
would
it
when
would
be
this
project
start
and
when
would
it
end?
You
said
november
is
that
november
of
2020.
R
Three
to
three
three
industry:
next
year
next
year,
yeah
for
construction,
we
would
probably
need
about
six
good
construction
season,
usually
that's
between
april
and
october.
But
you
know,
since
we
are
pretty
much
done
with
the
design
phase,
you
know
we
put
together
contract
documents
advertise
a
project
that
would
require
us
in
at
least
three
weeks,
and
you
know
we
have
to
do
some
analysis
and
towards
the
projects.
So
this
by
itself.
Gonna
take
another
two
three
months,
but
definitely
by
you
know.
R
R
So
that's
that's
a
plan.
Things
could
change,
but
I'm
sure
you
know
the
supply
chain
issue
we
had.
You
know
for
the
last
two
years
is
easy,
hopefully-
and
hopefully
we'll
get
a
good
big
number
and
that
will
will
be
that
will
help
us.
You
know,
beat
the
projects
as
a
product
have
a
contractor
and
start
construction
as
soon
as
possible.
I
mean
I
enjoy
coming
back
to
you
guys,
but
I
don't
want
to
come
back
and
ask
for
more
that's
the
plan.
R
B
And
that
passes
eight
zero.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
Madison
have
a
good
night.
I
know
that
steve
thayer
is
here
with
us
and
steve.
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
have
any
updated
comments
report
to
provide
tonight.
H
I
don't
really
have
anything
additional
to
provide
tonight,
so
I
think
I'll
I'll.
Let
you
guys
go.
B
B
Rob
g
get
back
to
vacation,
okay,
thank
you
and
again
just
thank
you.
Everyone
for
your,
oh!
Let's
vote
on
it
right
right,
voting
everyone
voting
in
favor
of
adjourn.
Please
don't
anyone
say
no
again!
I
just
want
to
thank
the
flexibility
of
my
colleagues
on
council
flexibility
for
all
the
staff
who
joined
us
this
evening,
including
lisa
holmes
from
the
county.
So
thanks,
everyone
have
a
great
rest
of
your
evening.
Take
care.