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A
A
Luis
aguero
torres
was
instrumental
in
identifying
this
as
a
focus,
and
several
municipalities
are
excited
to
it's,
not
an
easy
subject
to
work
on,
but
see
how
we
can
collectively
apply
pressures
when
needed,
just
what
we
might
do
so
once
in
a
while.
I'm
assuming
you'll
hear
reports
about
the
tcog
energy
committee.
A
By
the
way.
I
cannot
stay
on
on
this
meeting,
so
my
apologies,
but
I'm
delighted
about
a
resolution
that
will
be
coming
up
later.
The
town
board
fully
supports
the
action
that
you
will
be
taking
community
choice
aggregation.
I
know
that
I
believe
that
you've
all
been
hearing
about
that
as
we
focus
on
it.
The
city
and
the
town
are
working
with
consultant
paul
fenn
to
see
how
we
can
jointly
move
forward
with
the
idea
that
other
municipalities
would
join
the
cca
either
later
this
year
or
sometime
next
year.
A
It's
it's
an
exciting
topic
that
has
some
complexities
associated
with
it
so,
but
we're
we're
very
excited
to
be
working
with
the
city
on
community
choice.
Segregation,
short-term
rentals,
your
turn,
so
I
think
everyone
knows
that
we
passed
a
law.
The
very
end
of
december.
A
committee
had
been
working
on
it
for
four
years.
A
A
We
now,
in
our
street
lights,
they'll,
be
converted
sometime
this
summer
to
led
we're
hoping
to
work
with
the
city
on
your
major
electrification
initiative,
and
there
will
probably
be
an
mou
again
between
the
town
and
the
city
as
we
see
how
we
work
together
on
that.
A
Usually
I
don't
really
worry
if
something's
in
the
city
or
the
town,
when
I'm
talking
to
the
general
public,
but
this
one,
I'm
always
going
to
say
it's
in
the
town
of
ithaca,
so
the
dalai,
la
lama,
library
and
learning
center,
the
groundbreaking
event
happens
later
this
month.
I
tell
my
friends
across
the
u.s:
it's
amazing
that
the
dalai
lama's
permanent
library
will
be
in-
and
I
do
say
the
town
of
ithaca
so
but
obviously
we
all
enjoy
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
in
our
community
in
that
valley.
A
So
that's
the
area
between
robert
truman
park
and
buttermilk
park.
We
are
in
the
process
of
developing
some
new
zoning
overlays.
We
certainly
want
economic
development
activity
to
happen
there,
but
we
want
to
be
pretty
careful
about
the
kind
of
activity
that
we
promote
between
the
two
parts
so
stay
tuned
on
that
we're
well
along
in
developing
some
overlays.
A
I
think
everyone
has
heard
about
our
southfield
new
neighborhood
code,
slash
traditional
new
developments
and
that
we're
working
toward
a
regulating
plan
for
southfield
that
will
include
mixed
development.
We
had
a
charette
last
fall
and
I'm
hoping
the
regulating
plan
will
come
forward
in
the
next
few
months.
A
Opengov.
I
believe
that
the
city
is
looking
at
opengov.
This
is
a
platform
for
permits
and
applications.
We're
hoping
to
go
live
with
it
next
wednesday.
It's
a
pretty
robust
platform,
we're
pretty
excited
about
it.
Several
departments,
not
just
codes,
we'll
be
using
it,
and
it
really,
I
think,
will
make
a
huge
benefit
to
our
residents
as
they
engage
with
the
town.
A
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
if
indeed
you
are
looking
at
open,
gov
people
have
probably
already
been
in
touch
with
marty
mosley,
but
we're
happy
to
continue
sharing
information
about
open
gov,
we'll
have
a
new
website,
hopefully
in
about
a
month.
Our
website
right
now
is
I'll,
just
say
terrible,
so
we're
it's
pretty
nice,
I'm
excited
about
unveiling
our
new
website.
We
also
have
a
new
mission
and
vision
statements,
so
those
will
be
they're
on
our
website
now,
but
they'll
be
more
prominent
on
the
new
website.
A
So
it
was
an
interesting
experience
to
go
through
a
mission
statement
and
a
vision
statement
for
the
town
of
ithaca
and
then
of
course,
always
always:
there's
water
and
sewer
infrastructure
and
inter-municipal
agreements
and
discussions
that
are
ongoing
I'll
I'll.
Stop
there
see
if
there's
any
questions.
C
B
B
We'll
now
turn
to
a
presentation
from
gene
grace
our
city
forester,
who
will
be
describing
some
updates
on
the
city,
cemetery
and
the
arboretum,
designation
and
gene.
I
see
you
there,
so
please
welcome
and
we're
glad
to
hear
from
you
hi.
D
Ellen
is
here
too
she's,
gonna
be
the
one
sharing
screen
and
I
don't
know
julie.
Can
you
see
if
chris
is
christine
waiting
in
the
waiting
room
to
be
let
in
christine
o'malley.
D
Her
screen
ellen
will
be
the
primary
speaker
for
this
presentation.
D
She
is
a
founding
member
of
the
friends
of
the
city
cemetery,
which
has
been
an
incredibly
beneficial
group
for
the
city
to
work
with,
so
she
will
be
leading
us
through
the
presentation
and
then
I
will
throw
in
comments
as
needed
and
then,
of
course,
any
questions
you
all
have.
I
will
be
happy
to
answer.
G
All
right,
I'm
gonna
stop
my
video
because
it
seems
to
be
a
bit
glitchy.
But
can
everybody
hear
me
okay?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
great
and
everybody
can
see
the
screen.
C
G
All
right
great,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
welcome
all
the
new
members
who
are
who
are
just
joining.
I
think
this
is
your
fourth
meeting
so
far
so
welcome
and,
of
course,
if
any
of
you
are
interested
in
doing
a
tour
with
one
of
us
of
the
cemetery,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
we're
happy
to
accommodate
that
whatever
your
schedule
may
be.
G
G
So
I
have
a
lot
of
connections
with
the
city
and
working
with
gene
grace
and
the
four
parks
and
forestry
folks
all
right.
So,
let's
see.
G
Okay,
there
we
go
have
a
little
bit
of
lag,
so
cemeteries
obviously
are
amongst
some
of
the
most
valuable
of
historic
and
cultural
resources
we
have.
G
But
one
thing
that
we
need
to
take
into
consideration
is
that
they
are
also
valuable
green
spaces,
plant
preserves
and
wildlife
habitats.
There's
a
huge
body
of
research
showing
that
there
are
at
least
a
hundred
different
species
that
are
being
protected
in
a
general
survey
of
cemeteries
throughout
the
u.s
and
especially
with
the
increased
population
density
of
downtown
ithaca.
This
is
the
green
space
for
many
people.
It
is
within
walking
distance.
G
It
is
not
across
a
major
highway
as
getting
to
stewart
park
often
entails,
and
it
is
essentially
located
between
the
cornell
campus
and
downtown
and
is
often
a
through
through
a
fair
for
folks,
going
from
cornell
downtown.
G
So
the
friends
of
ithaca
city
cemetery
is
a
completely
voluntary
organization
and
we
are
under
a
historic
ithaca
and
since
2017
we've
cleaned
and
repaired
over
a
thousand
stones.
That
also
indicates
uprighting
them.
G
G
We've
worked
toward
fundraising
and
installing
three
interpretive
signs,
mason
r.e
kelly,
recently
repaired
three
of
the
vaults
vaults,
are
the
structures
that
are
in
into
the
hillside
there,
and
we
did
two
last
summer
or
one
last
summer
and
two
the
summer
before
we've
opted
and
improved.
The
work
shed
installed
historically
accurate
bollards,
which
just
started
today.
G
G
You
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
digging
involved,
so
if
any
of
you
need
to
go
out
and
do
some
exercise,
we
are
always
glad
to
have
you
be
a
part
of
it
here
we
are
using
a
tripod
that
an
eagle
scout
troop
made
for
us
which
helps
us
lift
the
heavier
stones
back
into
place,
and
these
are
some
of
the
replacement
markers.
I
was
just
mentioning
of
the
revolutionary
war
soldiers.
This
is
the
in
the
below
pictures,
the
sons
of
the
revolutionary
war
from
binghamton.
G
G
So
the
tree
tour,
not
only
are
we
doing
a
number
of
tours,
but
jean
grace
and
kevin
borstadt
have
done
a
whole
tree
inventory
and
have
labeled
the
trees
and,
like
I
said,
we
have
been
accredited
as
an
arboretum
which
allows
us
to
go
for
more
funding
which
we'll
get
to
later.
G
In
july
of
last
year,
the
shed
was
broken
into
a
large
concrete
block
was
thrown
through
one
of
the
windows
and
nothing
was
taken,
but
the
inside
was
just
kind
of
ransacked
and
we
want
to
thank
and
call
out
corey,
jordan
and
brian
parker
in
particular,
because
they
did
a
fantastic
job
of
completely
renovating
the
shed
make
adding
insulation
repainting
with
all
the
graffiti.
That
was
on
it.
Adding
the
security
to
the
windows,
replacing
the
window
that
was
broken
and
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
there.
G
Department,
yes,
we've,
like
I
said,
we've
done
a
number
of
fundraising
and
awareness
campaigns
on
the
left
is
a
shot
from
our
city
cemetery,
sprint,
the
one
mile
race
we
do
through
the
cemetery
around
halloween
and
then
cinema
in
the
cemetery
which
we
are
doing
again
this
year
and
the
movie
will
be
beetlejuice.
G
So
more
information
on
that
will
be
coming
up
a
number
of
years
ago.
We
did
kind
of
a
triage,
an
assessment
of
the
vaults
and
what
needed
to
be
done
in
each
vault.
Obviously,
you
can
see
the
sd
vault
right
here
is
in
dire
need
of
repair,
and
so
they
gave
us
a
road
map
of
how
we
should
go
about
and
start
working
on
each
of
these
vaults,
and
that
was
generously
paid
for
by
the
city.
G
And
here
is
the
vault
that
was
completed
last
summer:
it's
a
christian's
fault
and
again
the
original
doors
for
all
the
vaults
are
actually
inside
each
vault.
So
we
have
started
a
plan
to
bring
them
out,
refinish
them
and
put
them
back
on
this
whole
vault
was
rebuilt.
The
only
structure
that
was
is
still
original
is
within
the
side
of
the
hill.
G
G
And
then
these
are
the
bollards.
The
bridge
is
no
longer
able
to
support
vehicles
and
currently
that
well
not
currently
because
they
were
moved,
but
there
were
huge,
concrete
blocks
that
were
not
very
aesthetically
pleasing,
nor
in
keeping
with
the
historic
nature
of
the
cemetery.
So
we
just
ordered
these
bollards
and
they
are
being
put
in
today
and
tomorrow.
So
that's
very
exciting.
G
In
2017,
the
cemetery
won
a
pride
of
ownership
award
from
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
rotary
international
club
here
an
award.
We
are
very
proud
of
so
going
forward,
we're
going
to
need
some
help
from
the
city
for
a
couple
of
projects,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
asking
for
your
interest
and
support
in
a
number
of
ways.
G
The
first
is
that
we
want
to
have
the
cemetery
designated
as
as
a
park,
and
that
would
open
up
more
funding
avenues.
We
need
to
figure
out.
You
know
capital
monies
to
repair
more.
The
vaults
gene
in
fact
had
a
meeting
with
a
number
of
masons
today
to
get
estimates
on
that.
Not
only
is
this
a
need
to
quickly
shore
up
and
and
preserve
history,
but
it's
also
a
safety
issue.
G
We
would
like
to
get
the
road
resurface.
Roads
resurfaced,
they're,
just
full
of
potholes.
At
the
moment
the
main
thoroughfare
is
actually
a
road
so
that
we're
fine
with
having
remain
paved,
but
the
rest.
We
would
like
just
to
be
simple.
You
know
graded
and
pressed
stone
or
something
that
would
not
be
worn
away
in
the
same
way.
That
asphalt
is,
and
that
would
also
require-
or
no
we'd,
also
ask
that
the
asphalt
be
taken
out
of
the
original
water
drainage
system,
because
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
getting
major
potholes.
G
We
are
looking
to
do
road
signage
within
the
cemetery.
All
of
those
roads
actually
have
names,
and
so
that
would
be
great
if
we
could
therefore
direct
people
more
readily
to
where
their
friends
or
relatives
are
the
university
avenue
wall
is
in
deep
native
repair.
G
So
why
do
we
want
to
be
designated
a
park?
We
are
a
public
cemetery,
municipal
cemetery,
and
the
assumption
is
that,
because
of
that,
we
can't
do
fundraising
or
get
grants
as
you
could
for
other
entities.
G
These
are
just
some
questions.
You
know
cemetery
law,
it's
very
exciting.
G
So
if
we
were
able
to
get
designated
a
park,
we
could
then
apply
for
other
monies.
These
are
just
some
examples
of
the
road
surfaces
you
can
see.
All
the
water
is
running
down
into
this
one
area
and
is
decimating
the
asphalt,
and
this
is
an
example
of
the
signage
we're
looking
at
just
something
again
to
help
direct
and
increase
the
curb
appeal
of
the
cemetery.
G
G
That
wall
was
built
in
the
1860s
and
we
would
like
to
save
it,
and
so
again
this
is
just
something
that
is
an
aesthetic
issue,
but
also
a
safety
issue,
and
then,
as
I
said,
we
want
to
apply
for
additional
designations
which
we'll
need
the
support
of
the
city
for.
G
D
And
I
just
also
want
to
promote
arbor
day
so
we'll
be
doing
celebrating
arbor
day,
which
is
april
29th,
which
I'm
sure
you
all
know
what
days
are
every
day
anyways
but
I'll.
Just
tell
you
it's
april
29th
and
we'll
be
doing
that
in
the
city.
Cemetery
we'll
be
planting
a
tree,
so
at
10
o'clock
in
the
morning.
So
everyone's
welcome
to
come
and
then
the
following
day
we
are
going
to
have
a
member
of
keuka
bird
club.
Do
a
birding
tour
in
the
cemetery
on
saturday
morning
april,
30th.
G
H
Him,
oh
okay,
doesn't
matter
well,
as
I'm
proud
to
say,
ellen
is
my
neighbor
across
the
street
on
hector
street,
and
I
think
this
is.
I
think
this
work
is
really.
I
think
it's
cool.
H
I
have
a
couple
questions.
Gene
is
there
a
particular
tree
or
one
or
two
trees
that
are
the
oldest
and
biggest
in
the
cemetery?
H
Could
there,
by
any
chance,
be
an
elm
tree
left
in
the
cemetery
and
where
do
they
bury
all
the
common
council
members.
D
We
compost
the
council,
members,
george,
but
probably
it's
hard
to
say
it's.
It's
not
always
easy
to
guess
the
age
of
trees,
because
so
much
of
it
is
dependent
on
the
site
and
how
quickly
they're
growing.
But
probably
what
I
would
say
is
there's
one
white
oak
tree,
that's
in
kind
of
in
the
center
of
the
cemetery,
and
it
is
enormous
it
is.
I
would
consider
it
as
like
an
old
growth
tree.
It's
several
hundred
years
old.
D
We
do
have
a
picture
from
one
of
the
intersections
of
the
cemetery
and
it's
labeled
as
such,
like
what
intersection
it
was
at,
and
I
believe
that
tree
is
in
the
picture
and
this
this
photograph
was
from
the
early
days
of
photographing.
It
was
probably
like
the
1870s
was
when
the
picture
was
taken
and
the
tree
is
there
like
it's
younger,
much
younger,
much
smaller,
but
I
think
it's
there.
D
B
I
would
encourage
council
colleagues
to
volunteer
if
you
can
on
some
of
the
cleanup
dates
and
to
go
on
any
of
the
tours.
Gene
has
conducted
some
really
fascinating
and
very
informative
tours
of
the
trees
to
george's
point
through
the
cemetery.
So.
I
You
I
I
will
say
in
my
time
first
as
liaison
to
the
parks
commission
for
the
bpw
and
then
liaison
under
common
council.
I
I
have
just
been
incredibly
impressed
by
ellen's
commitment
and
dedication
to
the
city
cemetery,
which
has
been
steadfast
in
at
least
13
years,
so
just
the
amount
of
resources
and
that
she
has
been
able
to
bring
to
the
city
in
repairing
these,
these
beautiful
old
stones
and
bringing
love
and
care
to
the
park
and
the
cemetery
is,
is
just
incredibly
valuable.
So
thank
you
ellen
and
gene
and
kristen
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
The
the
first
question
I
have,
as
always,
is
going
to
be
about
process.
Has
this
been
brought
to
the
board
of
public
works?
Typically,
as
you
highlighted
in
your
presentation,
the
cemetery
comes
under
the
purview
of
the
board
of
public
works.
They
would
be
able
to
evaluate
and
advise
with
regards
to
the
benefits
or
considerations
of
turning
this
cemetery
into
a
park
from
a
public
works
standpoint.
I
I
would
recommend
it
go
through
the
bpw
and
then
presumably
through
pedc,
but
they
would
be
the
first
advisory
group.
That
would
take
a
look
at
this.
So
I
guess
I'm
looking
to
to
either
jean
and
and
laura
with
regards
to
process
and
the
board
of
public
works.
B
D
Yeah,
I
wonder
also
if
getting
someone
from
the
planning
department
like
lisa
or
someone
involved
in
that
conversation
as
well,
would
probably
be
helpful.
I
I
guess
fixing
the
administrative
category
of
the
cemetery
so
that
it
can
allow
us,
as
a
city
to
as
you
mentioned,
apply
for
grants
work
with
non-profits
to
fundraise,
for
it
bring
it
the
necessary
infrastructure
repairs
that
it
needs.
So
I
definitely
would
would
support
seeing
this
move
forward
in
that
way.
But
thank.
J
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
this
presentation.
I
don't
really
have
a
comment
just
wanted
to
express
other
thoughts
of.
I
really
learned
a
whole
lot.
If
you
saw
my
eye
wandering,
it
was
to
make
sure
to
grab
my
friends
to
come
out
out
to
this
next
cleanup.
It
seems
like
good
work
and
I
learned
a
whole
lot
in
this
presentation
alone.
I'm
looking
forward
to
stopping
by
and
hopefully
learning
more
while
providing
a
little
bit
of
a
helping
hand.
B
H
No,
I
have
another
question:
go
right
ahead.
One
problem
recently
with
going
through
the
board
of
public
works
is
we
haven't
had
a
quorum
in
several
months.
I'm
wondering
if,
if
cornell
might
be
interested
in
helping
us
with
the
cemetery,
maybe
particularly
the
wall
up
at
the
top.
I.
G
You
know
I
I
was
remiss.
I
was
trying
to
get
everything
in
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
because
I
also
do
these
kind
of
meetings
and
no,
I
don't
want
to
keep
you
guys
too
long,
but
cornell
did
match
the
city's
funds
for
repairing
the
vaults
as
far
as
the
wall
up
top.
G
Possibly
I
don't
know
we
haven't
talked
to
them
since
we
did
the
vaults,
so
we'd
have
to
to
go
back
and
and
talk
to
them,
but
certainly
though
the
wall
up
top
does
need
a
lot
of
work
done
on
it.
Just
a
thought.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
that's
a
good
thought.
George.
I
will
say
that
when
I've
shown
up
for
the
volunteer
days,
there
have
been
in
the
past
other
cornell
students,
volunteering.
K
B
30
to
noon
and
we
usually
meet
at
the
at
the
shed,
which
it's
nice
to
see
that
renovated.
G
It
they
did
a
tremendous
job
on
that
and
you
know
it
was
odd
to
have
the
shed
broken
into,
but
people
do
stupid
things
in
the
cemetery
and
but
it
did
it
gave
us
the
ability
to
you
know.
Cody
is
very
excited
about
doing
work
with
us
in
the
cemetery
as
well
so
or
corey,
not
cody.
Sorry,
but
yes,
laura's
been
to
many
of
our
clean
up
days
and
you
know
it's
just
the
start
of
the
season.
We
try
to
have
one
like
once
a
month.
G
B
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
the
very
informative
presentation
hope
we
have
generated
some
volunteers
for
you
for
additional
volunteers
for
you
for
may
30th.
I
expect
to
see
you
that
day
and
appreciate
your
presentation
tonight.
Okay,.
G
Well-
and
I
saw
robert
say
it's
in
the
best:
yes,
so
we'll.
C
G
Julie,
johnson,
of
course,
who's,
the
other
co-founder
of
the
group.
You
know
she's
just
as
dedicated
and
you
know,
puts
a
lot
of
blood,
sweat
and
tears
into
it
literally
and
figuratively.
So
yeah.
G
Just
answer
george
on
another
tree
thing
is:
we've
talked
with
nice
egg
about
maybe
doing
some
nut
trees
in
the
cemetery
that
we
can't
do
elsewhere,
kind
of
heirloom
trees
that
people
would
complain
about
all
the
nuts
or
different.
You
know
things,
but
in
the
cemetery
we
can
introduce
things
like
that,
so
we're
looking
at
how
we
can
use
that
space.
B
B
Is
available
to
recognize
arbor
day
on
april
29th
at
10
a.m?
There
will
be
a
tree
planting
so
once
again,
thanks
so
much
for
the
very
informative
presentation
responding
to
questions
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
on
volunteer
dates.
B
B
Let's
now
turn
to
public
comment,
I
understand
julie,
as
always
has
that
in
good
order,
so
julie,
who
is
our
first
speaker.
E
E
C
E
L
Do
I
join
as
a
panelist?
Is
that
what
I
push.
L
Hi
lee
hi
laura,
I
may
have
to
go
off
because
I
I
was
afraid
of
the
three
minutes
and
I
wrote
everything
out
which
I
don't
normally
do,
and
I
have
to
look
down
to
the
word
document.
So
please
excuse
me,
I
don't
mean
to
be
rude
that
way,
but
I'll
look
down
to
the
word
document
now
good
afternoon,
everybody.
L
My
name
is
lee
adler
and
I'm
a
faculty
member
at
the
ilr
school,
a
practicing
lawyer
who
represents
the
I
think
of
firefighters,
the
last
20
years
and
five
other
municipalities
up
and
down
state.
L
I
teach
the
study
of
public
sector
labor
law
that
critically
deconstructs
the
power
relationships
that
exist
between
governing
bodies
like
the
city
and
its
uniform
officers
earlier
around
in
2020,
I
unsuccessfully
sought
committee
membership
because
I
was
feeling
deeply
from
the
outset
of
the
events
that
took
place
in
our
country
that
the
rhetoric
and
national
projections
coming
from
responsible
and
irresponsible
members
of
our
community
were
worried
were
things
that
worried
me
and
those
worries
increased
when
it
became
clear
that
the
earlier
incarnation
of
the
task
force
would
rely
upon
so-called
data
experts
and
national
think
tank
types
that
would
advance
public
safety
in
one-dimensional
and
national
ways
and
not
necessarily
relevant
to
our
community.
L
I
also
agree
that
our
police
unions,
too
often
uncritically,
represent
or
take
positions
uncritically
represent
a
member
who
the
community
believes
is
in
the
wrong
or
takes
positions
that
the
community
strongly
disagrees
with.
L
But
the
report
from
this
task
force
at
this
juncture
with
the
work
of
the
police,
is
where
I
believe
it
comes
up
short
of
the
most
danger-inducing
police
concepts
and
activities
they
ignore
is
that
the
law
in
new
york
state
describes
police
units
as
paramilitary
in
nature
and
people,
meaning
police
are
trained
as
if
they're
going
to
war,
that
is,
does
a
design
of
new
york
state
and
it's
in
it's
encrusted
in
public
sector.
L
Public
collective
bargaining
law
police
are
trained
that
if,
when
attacked,
if
you
don't
do
something
first,
then
the
others
will
and
unless
and
until
we
deal
with
the
community
harmful
structural
problems
like
this,
whether
you
hire
a
commissioner
or
add
17
mental
health
workers
to
take
care
of
our
more
vulnerable
communities.
E
Thank
you
lee.
That's
your
three
minutes.
You
can
feel
free
to
submit
the
rest
of
your
comments
to
common
councils
through
the
public
comment
cards
if
you'd
like
to
and
then
we
can
append
it
to
the
minutes
of
this
meeting.
B
You
lee
thank
you,
but
please
do
submit
your
full
comments
to
us,
your
written
comments,
and
how
do
I
do
that
lawyer?
You
can
just
send
it
to
common
council.
L
B
M
M
I
have
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
lot
of
my
employees
right
now,
because
I
have
about
35
employees
and
I
should
have
about
10
to
15
more
but
we're
having
a
problem
hiring
people,
because
a
lot
of
people
keep
saying
I'm
afraid
to
go
down
to
town,
I'm
afraid
to
walk
to
my
car
at
night.
I'm
afraid
to
leave
here
and
what's
going
to
happen
to
me
when
I'm
going
to
the
garage,
there
is
no
police
presence
on
the
commons
anymore
and
it's
really
is
becoming
a
problem.
M
Has
been
tremendously
shrink
has
I'm
sorry,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
growth
in
ithaca
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
towards
downtown's
revitalization.
M
Since
about
2020
in
2020
we
started
to
see
less
police
presence
and
more
rhetoric
from
the
mayor's
office
about
how
to
get
rid
of
the
police
and
not
help
them
out.
The
mayor
has
done
everything
in
his
power.
M
The
previous
mayor
has
done
everything
to
promote
his
own
agenda
in
the
future
and
not
worrying
about
us
here
in
ithaca
he's
gone
now,
it's
really
time
for
us
to
start
making
a
dent
in
hiring
more
police
force,
getting
a
chief
of
police
and
getting
this
city
back
to
the
safety
that
the
people
in
it
really
want.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
time.
N
Hi,
I'm
theresa
alt,
206,
eddy
street
college
town,
I'm
concerned
that
you
are
setting
up
the
division
of
community
solutions
for
failure.
They
would
be
useful
in
maybe
half
of
the
incidents
that
the
police
now
attend
to.
That's
a
guess
that
half
is
a
guesstimate
from
looking
at
the
report
in
appendix
c
now
there
are
63
police
officers
and
two
dogs,
yet
the
police
say
they
don't
have
enough,
and
you
want
to
employ
only
five
community
responders.
N
How
will
they
handle
half
of
that
caseload?
Moreover,
at
the
suggested
community
responder
yearly
salary
of
about
57
000
each
could
afford
up
to
1425
in
monthly
rent
thirty
percent.
They
may
not
be
able
to
have
more
than
a
studio
or
one
bedroom
apartment
in
the
city.
What
if
a
responder,
has
a
family
and
needs
a
larger
apartment?
N
I
happen
to
have
heard
of
an
analogous
fiasco
here
in
ithaca.
We
hear
how
we
are
starting
to
provide
supportive
housing
for
people
with
various
difficulties.
Yet
I
hear
of
an
agency
that
is
supposed
to
have
seven
staffers
supporting
the
support
supportive
housing
up
from
six,
but
at
this
point
three
have
left.
So
there
are
only
three
on
staff,
so
the
workload
for
those
three
balloons
out
of
control
and
more
and
more
of
the
staffers
quit
leaving
the
situation
in
a
death
spiral
now
back
to
the
community
responders.
N
N
E
Our
next
speaker
is
celie
gladstein
following
celie
is
tim
howlett,
holland.
O
Hi,
so
I
am
here
regarding
an
issue
that
was
brought
up
last
at
last
month's
meeting
about
south
side's
concerns
and
needs
for
a
janitor.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
issue
is
getting
the
attention
that
it
deserves.
O
I
spoke
with
the
executive
director
at
south
side
to
find
out.
You
know
what
their
needs
were
and
how
things
were
going
and
it
looks
like
you
know
they
have
a
maintenance
person
a
couple
times
a
week,
but
no
janitor.
So
my
understanding
is
not.
I
don't
fully
understand
it's
a
city-owned
building,
so
I
guess
that
that
means
they
need
to
have
city
employees
doing
this
work,
but
there's
not
a
janitor
available
to
them
at
this
time.
O
It
is
somewhat
concerning,
because
there's
so
many
kids
and
youth
there,
this
space
is
a
safe
space
for
them
and
it
needs
to
be
cleaned
regularly.
I'm
wondering
what
is
going
is
happening
in
regards
to
this.
What
the
common
council
is
going
to
do
to
help
them
get
what
they
need.
Maybe
someone
can
explain
to
me
how
this
works
in
terms
of
the
city
requirements
around
this.
B
O
Okay,
actually,
while
I'm
on-
and
it's
also
about
south
side,
I
I
was
told
that
this
meeting
was
going
to
be
addressing
some
issues
of
funds
being
withheld
from
southside,
and
so
I'd
also
like
to
add
that
to
my
concern
because
they
don't
know
what
funds
are
being
held.
O
E
Yeah,
our
next
speaker
is
tim
holland.
Following
tim,
I
see
that
marcella
is
back
in
so
we'll
try
that
again.
P
P
I
would
like
to
put
that
into
a
little
bit
of
context
for
you
all
in
the
form
of
a
dollar
amount,
so
I'm
53
and
for
the
rest
of
my
life.
I
could
spend
all
day
every
day
laying
on
the
couch
and
I
will
make
3
500
a
month
in
retirement.
P
P
P
P
P
My
second
question
is
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
human
resources,
so
it
appears
reimagining
is
about
to
reach
implementation
stage,
so
naturally,
there's
going
to
come
a
time
in
the
future
where
people
are
going
to
need
to
be
hired.
So
on
the
armed
personnel
side
when
it
comes
to
advertising
for
those
jobs
or
recruiting
for
those
jobs.
P
How
I
mean
are:
are
they
still
going
to
be
called
police
officers,
or
are
they
going
to
be
called
public
safety
officers?
That's
my
question.
I
could
be
wrong
on
this
date,
but
it
was
roughly
early
or
late.
P
B
B
F
F
You
know
just
not
to
be
redundant
in
our
in
our
comments
to
this
meeting,
so
I
hope
march
can
get
on
unmuted
at
some
point.
So
you
know
obviously
we're
concerned
with
this
imagining
campaign.
F
I'm
sorry!
I
just
got
some
notes
over
here,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
important
to
to
really
think
about
so
quickly.
You
know
I've
been
doing.
I've
been
in
business
for
25
years.
I've
different
parts
of
ithaca
I've
been
down
on
the
west
end,
I've
been
in
college
town
now,
I'm
you
know
still
down
on
aurora
street
technically
state
street,
since
we
moved,
but
the
important
thing
I
think
to
consider
when
you're
considering
this
this.
This
change,
which
I'll
be
frank,
I
don't
support.
F
F
Having
knowing
that,
I
have
ipd
that
you
know
anytime,
and
it's
really
you
know-
and
I
think
all
of
you
have
looked
at
the
statistics
and
see
how
it's
dropped
off.
You
know
I
never
understood
not
supporting
them
with
a
contract.
I
thought
that
was
ridiculous,
but
you
know
the
thing
is
it's
about
safety?
It's
about
responsibility.
F
You
know
us
as
business
owners.
Of
course
we
have
our
responsibilities.
We
have
responsibilities
to
pay
taxes.
We
have
responsibility
to
our
employees,
who
are
also
extended
the
families
in
this
community.
They
go
their
kids
go
to
school.
You
know
I
personally
have
57
employees
anyone
it
can
really
scare
you
you
can
wake
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night
wondering
you
know
it's.
F
A
big
responsibility
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
of
knowing
that
you
are
the
one
that
are
taking
care
of
these
families,
and
it
was
a
very
comfort
feeling
to
know
that
I
always
had
support
in
this
community,
especially
from
the
police,
to
back
me
up.
If
there
was
ever
a
problem
and-
and
it's
very
apparent
you
know-
and
you
you
see,
you
know,
everybody
loves
to
read
the
articles
about
ithaca
being
the
emergent
city
and
the
best
place
to
retire.
You
know
all
these
things.
F
You
know
and
that's
strongly,
based
on
the
past,
20
plus
years
of
a
very
low
crime
rate,
a
very
well
trained
and
134
years
of
this
police
department
and
very
very
well
trained,
and
they
stick
together
like
a
brother
and
they
work
together
and
they
work
with
the
community.
F
I
enjoy
seeing
the
police
walk
down
the
street,
you
know-
and
you
know-
and
you
know
lee
adler
made
some
some
militant
comments
and
that's
fine.
If
that's
what
he
believes,
I
don't
believe
we
see
that
in
ithaca.
I
think
they
have
always
been
a
huge
help
in
the
community.
I've
seen
them
talk
to
tourists,
which
is
obviously
a
huge
revenue
system
in
this
in
this
city,
especially
in
the
summer
time.
You
know
when
the
students
are
gone.
F
E
Thanks
that
would
be
great
next
up
is
nick
domster
and,
following
nick
will
be
heather
campbell.
Q
Sorry,
I'm
also
working
with
a
couple
other
things,
so
I'll
try
and
be
quick.
First,
I
want
to
say
officer,
holland.
It
was
great
to
see
you
again.
It
was
also
awesome
to
work
alongside
you.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
thank
you
for
protecting
me.
I
am,
I
am
excuse
me.
I
am
nick
domster.
I
proudly
represent
bank
daniel
at
the
next
new
york.
I've
served
your
community,
and
now
I
call
my
community
for
coming
up
to
17
years
now,
I'm
a
buffalo
native.
Q
Q
Now
as
a
supervisor
for
bang
zamul,
I
will
first
start
by
saying
I
will
wholeheartedly
support
ipd
and
behind
them
every
step
of
the
way
as
they
stand
in
front
of
me,
every
single
time
I
have
called
for
their
assistance,
and
with
that
I
will
speak
with
the
work
that
I
am
involved
in
in
this
community.
The
vital
part
that
ipd
is
involved
with
that
as
well,
allowing
me
to
perform
that
work
safely.
Q
Sorry,
I'm
not
much
of
a
public
speaker,
so
I'm
trying
to
read
off
what
I
made
notes
of
ipd,
just
like
any
other
service
police
service,
has
protects
other
essential
services
in
the
ithaca
area
without
their
ability
to
do
so
to
do
to
de-escalate
a
potentially
dangerous
situation.
Q
People
like
or
services
like
ems
and
fire
will
not
be
able
to
safely
reach
someone
in
need,
and
now,
with
the
ever
escalating
shootings
and
stabbings
that
we
seem
to
be
having
almost
every
weekend,
though
ip's
services
needed
mouth
now
more
than
ever
that
escalating
crime
needs
to
be
with
me
met
with
an
increased
presence
of
authority.
Q
Secondly,
I'll
advocate
for
their
excuse
me
they
advocate
for
our
community
members.
I
cannot
tell
you
how
many
times
I've
seen
ip's
sincere
compassion
reach
most
of
our
most
desperate
and
vulnerable
neighbors
many
times
it
seems
that
seems
that
passion
has
gone
further
and
deeper
with
that
person
than
the
care
that
they
get
later.
Q
On
that
day,
I've
seen
that
with
mental
health
patients,
as
well
as
even
the
most
desperately
severely
addicted
people,
I've
seen
those
bonds
created
and
those
friendships
started
with
those
interactions
and
with
those
I
couldn't
imagine
where
some
of
those
people
would
be
today
if
they
didn't
have
that
officer
advocating
for
them
it's
a
slippery
slope
to
consider
removing
or
shrinking
of
the
police
force.
Oh
excuse
me,
and
my
only
comparison
to
that
is,
that
would
be
like
removing
the
locks
and
doors
from
your
own
house.
Q
Q
Really,
that
is
all
I
have
to
say
right
now,
but
they
are
ipd
is
a
vital
role
in
my
safety.
Removing
them
or
limiting
them
takes
away
from
my
safety
as
well,
and
as
I
I
serve
the
community,
so
that
would
stretch
across
the
board
it's
not
affecting
just
a
police
department,
but
it's
affecting
the
community,
the
community's
safety
and
the
business
and
businesses
and
thriving
businesses
in
the
area.
So
that's
all,
I
have
to
say.
B
R
Thank
you,
my
name's
heather
campbell.
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
advocacy
center,
the
agency
providing
services
for
victims
of
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault
and
child
sexual
abuse,
and
we've
been
following
the
work
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
very
closely.
We
work
closely
with
survivors
who
are
engaged
with
the
criminal
justice
system
with
survivors
who
choose
not
to
engage
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
with
survivors
who
have
been
harmed
by
their
contact
with
the
system.
R
We
work
with
local
law
enforcement
to
support
safety
for
victims
of
abuse.
We
also
support
the
work
in
our
community
to
build
new
options
outside
of
the
criminal
justice
system
and
building
new
tools
for
survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
tools
that
will
help
build
accountability
for
those
who
harm
and
safety
for
those
who
are
harmed
and
tools
that
go
beyond
our
current,
really
single
tool
for
accountability
and
safety,
which
is
the
criminal
justice
system.
R
Right
now
I
often
say
it's
like:
we
have
a
toolbox
with
only
hammers
in
it
and
we
need
a
more
diverse
toolbox
of
support
for
survivors
and
accountability
methods
for
survivors
in
our
community.
R
We
have
concerns
about
some
of
the
broad
language
being
used
to
talk
about
domestic
violence
and
child
abuse.
For
example,
we're
hearing
domestic
violence
frequently
described
as
domestic
disputes.
It's
actually
been
20
years
or
more,
since
I've
heard
this
term
used
as
often
a
dispute
is
a
disagreement
or
an
argument.
Domestic
violence
is
a
pattern
of
coercive
behavior
that
is
used
to
gain
or
maintain
power
and
control
over
an
intimate
partner.
R
In
the
discussions
about
alternative
responses
to
domestic
violence,
I'm
also
often
hearing
domestic
violence
linked
to
mental
health
calls.
This
is
a
dangerous
misunderstanding
about
the
dynamics
of
domestic
violence.
It
also
unintentionally
reinforces,
I
think,
some
of
the
myths
that
people
with
mental
health
are
more
likely
to
be
dangerous,
where
in
fact,
they're
more
likely
to
be
victims
of
crime.
But
a
mental
health
response
is
not
an
appropriate
or
safe
response
for
domestic
violence.
R
We
believe
it's
critically
important
for
our
community
to
be
talking
about
alternative
responses
to
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence,
particularly
in
cases
where
the
survivor
does
not
want
law
enforcement
involvement.
However,
an
unarmed
response
alone,
without
building
other
tools
and
resources
in
our
community
to
support
accountability
and
safety,
is
not
a
safe
response.
R
We
hope
that
these
conversations
continue
and
that
we
can
start
to
support
a
more
nuanced
conversation
about
interventions
for
both
domestic
violence
and
child
abuse
and
start
looking
at
what
these
other
alternative
responses
could
look
like
in
our
community
to
increase
safety
for
everyone.
R
We
think
it's
critically
important
that,
when
we're
talking
about
survivors
that
we
need
to
be
actually
centering
the
voices
of
survivors
in
these
conversations,
and
particularly
the
voices
of
bipac
and
queer
survivors,
who
have
been
most
impacted
by
the
criminalization
of
the
response
to
gender-based
violence
in
this
reimagining
process,
our
agency
has
not
yet
been
consulted
or
brought
into
these
conversations
about
responses
to
abuse,
and
we
sincerely
hope
that
our
expertise
will
be
utilized.
As
these
conversations
move
forward,
we
are
really
eager
to
be
a
part
of
building
a
more
safe
and
just
community.
S
Hello,
my
name
is
rocco
lucenti,
I'm
a
fourth
generation
ithaca
native
and
the
host
of
the
youtube
show
ithaca
uncensored.
There
are
many
people
here
tonight
to
speak
out
against
the
police,
reimagining
proposal
and,
as
I'm
sure
you
can
correctly
guess,
I
also
am
opposed
to
it.
That
being
said,
my
message
tonight
is
a
different
one
from
theirs.
I
come
to
bring
somber
news
to
those
individuals.
S
The
effort
to
neuter
ipd
has
succeeded.
We
have
already
lost
these
activists
who
do
not
have
your
good
or
the
communities
good
in
mind
when
they
seek
to
abolish
ipd
have
already
won,
we've
seen
the
numbers
in
the
field
of
officers
nearly
halved,
we
have
seen
some
of
the
best
and
most
senior
officers
retire
explicitly
because
of
this
process.
S
The
only
question
at
this
point
is:
how
long
will
that
victory
last
before
the
community
finally
wakes
up
and
sees
what
is
clearly
in
front
of
our
faces?
This
process
is
being
led
by
some
sick
people
who
seek
to
subjugate
the
community
not
to
improve
it.
There's
a
very
simple,
utterly
destructive
goal
at
play
for
the
activists
in
charge
here
get
the
police
out
of
the
way
so
that
business
owners
and
community
members
have
nobody
to
turn
to
in
the
face
of
the
communist
mob.
S
The
mob
can
then
resort
to
illegal
means
to
defend
criminals
against
being
evicted
against
being
arrested
for
shoplifting
and
will
enable
them
to
participate
in
other
forms
of
lawlessness.
We
will
live
under
a
dystopian
society,
the
likes
of
which
we
have
seen
time
and
time
again
throughout
history.
S
Instead
of
peace
officer
arresting
the
criminal
on
the
basis
of
specific
charges,
the
mob
will
intimidate
you
into
letting
the
criminal
go,
using
bullying,
tactics
and
threats.
The
helplessness
you
will
feel
in
the
face
of
this
crime
is
the
goal.
Mob
roll
rule
is
the
ultimate
form
of
totalitarian
control.
The
police
are
the
only
hope.
City
residents
have
for
maintaining
their
freedom
in
the
absence
of
a
strong
ethical
police
department,
freedom
will
only
be
a
riot
away
from
extinction.
S
We
will
not
be
intimidated
by
mobs
like
the
ithaca
dsa,
no
matter
how
many
common
council
members
they
elect,
no
matter
how
many
times
city
government
prevents
ipd
from
responding
to
our
cries
for
help
as
we
are
being
attacked
by
the
communist
mob,
as
has
happened
multiple
times
in
the
past,
we
will
not
be
intimidated
into
silencing
our
voices,
and
we
are
here
to
let
the
city
government
know
that
we
are
not
asking
you
to
respect
our
equal
rights.
We
are
demanding
it.
S
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
rocco.
I
I
don't
see
anna
in
our
list
here,
so
our
next
speaker
will
be
sarah
hess
and,
following
sarah
will
be
david
bowers.
T
Hello,
my
name
is
sarah
hess.
I
live
on
the
west
hill
of
ithaca
and
I'm
here
to
urge
approval
for
the
new
public
safety
plans.
I
do
not
want
to
eliminate
police.
I
want
the
ipd
to
be
better
and
more
effective.
I've
lived
in
ithaca
for
47
years
raised.
My
kids
here
worked
in
education
and
youth
services
and
I've
seen
some
of
the
attempts
at
improving
police
services.
During
that
time,
one
of
those
was
creating
community
police
officers.
Back
in
the
90s,
a
couple
of
officers
were
assigned
to
learn
more
about
community
services.
T
T
T
The
same
concept
of
changing
the
culture
of
public
safety
is
attempted
in
this
plan
and
fortunately,
with
a
lot
more
time,
research,
money
and
some
examples
from
other
cities
that
we
can
help
see
will
help
us
in
implementing
our
plans.
Will
it
work
better?
I
certainly
hope
so
I
do
believe
in
prevention
and
there's
not
nearly
enough
of
it
happening
locally.
I
also
think
there's
a
long-standing
problem
in
who
gets
promoted
and
who
doesn't
at
ipd
and
that's
another
part
of
the
culture
that
needs
to
change.
T
T
E
Thank
you,
so
I
don't
see
david
in
the
waiting
room
either.
So
our
next
speaker
will
be
lenny
and
following
lenny
will
be
alejandro
santana.
U
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
talk
briefly
about
the
crisis,
people
that
ipd
relies
on
when
they
have
situations
that
they
need
an
extra
person
or
extra
extra
expertise.
U
U
You
know
this
is
just
one
of
many
many
incidences
that
ipd
has
had
to
de-escalate
themselves
because
of
the
negotiators
refusing
to
come
to
the
scene.
Another
one
that
comes
to
mind
was
the
jumper
that
they
had
at
the
parking
garage
downtown
and
again,
ipd
had
to
rely
on
their
own
expertise
to
be
able
to
talk
that
person
off
the
ledge.
U
Why
do
we
even
have
them
and
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
you
know
if
I
was
at
a
job-
and
I
told
my
boss
that
I
refused
to
do
something-
I
would
almost
immediately
be
written
up
or
fired
on
the
spot
for
insubordination,
so
I
mean
where's
the
accountability
for
this.
You
know
this
group
of
people
that
are
supposed
to
be
mental
health
professionals
and
and
whatnot
yeah.
U
I
just
wanted
to
bring
some
attention
to
that
because
it's
been
happening
a
lot
more
lately,
you
know
and
again
to
reiterate
you
know,
the
incline
of
shots
fired
calls
murder
that
happened
just
two
weeks
ago,
or
so
you
know
we
need
to
rely
on
ipd
more
now
than
ever,
and
you
guys
need
to
step
up
your
game
and
and
figure
out
where
the
deficiencies
are
and
fix
what
the
problem
is
before
it
gets
any
worse.
B
Thank
you
next
speaker
is
at
alejandro.
E
Alejandro
and
alejandro
will
be
followed
by
deeps.
V
Grieving
in
everyone,
my
name
is
alejandro
santana
and
I've
been
an
ethical
resident
for
22
years
now
and
I'm
my
point
is
about
the
re-imagining,
the
public
safety,
and
I
think
he
has
some
great
ideas,
but
it
is
to
focus
on
capturing
the
national
attention
and
isn't
sufficiently
based
on
the
local
realities
of
the
community.
In
ithaca,
we
have
a
unique
economy
and
population
here
in
ithaca,
and
just
because
something
might
work
elsewhere
doesn't
necessarily
mean
is
the
best
idea
for
our
community.
V
V
V
This
will
re
this
reorganization
of
the
way
the
police
operate.
The
police
department
should
be
divided
into
more
units
with
different
roles
in
the
community
and
should
look
for
more
ways
to
incorporate
civilians.
Community
members
into
a
variety
of
flexible
roles
for
a
community
to
prosper,
grow
and
be
happy.
The
most
important
thing
is
to
feel
safe
in
a
place
where
you
strive
to
you.
V
Safety
needs,
more
resources,
more
police
presence,
more
police
awareness
and,
more
importantly,
community
engagement.
In
order
to
make
our
communities
safer
and
finally,
reimagine
public
safety
can
only
be
achieved
if
its
goals
remain
grounded
in
what
what
the
actual
people
in
the
community
want,
as
opposed
to
what
the
most
nationally
popular
ideas
might
be.
V
W
X
Hey
everyone,
my
name
is
deeps.
I
am
a
resident
of
ward
5..
I've
spoken
to
most
of
you
already
in
multiple
capacities
at
this
point,
but
today
I
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
bump
what
teresa
and
lee
adler
were
saying
earlier
and
urged
the
common
council
to
treat
the
reimagining
public
safety
working
groups
recommendations
as
a
mere
baseline,
the
bare
minimum.
If
you
will,
I
think
that
personally,
the
working
group's
recommendation
doesn't
really
go
far
enough
to
address
the
issues.
X
The
underlying
issues
here
and
I
think
we've
heard
a
lot
from
a
bunch
of
like
white,
small
business
owners
today
about
like
supporting
the
ipd.
I
think
that
that
is
nothing
more
than
a
very
vocal
minority.
We
haven't
really
heard
anything
from
ithaca's
communities
of
like
black
or
indigenous
or
other
people
of
color
do
exist
and
have
been
and
continue
to
be
on
the
end
of
most
negative
experiences
with
the
ipd.
X
I
think,
in
that
regard,
if
the
point
of
public
safety
is
to
ostensibly
to
make
the
public
feel
safer,
then
ipd
has
consistently
failed
in
that
regard,
especially
when
it
comes
to
people
who
look
like
me,
and
I'm
from
I
grew
up
in
in
the
willamette
valley
in
oregon.
I
have
been
there.
I've
seen
the
cahoots
program,
which
is
eugene,
oregon's,
reimagining,
public
safety,
equivalent
they've
been
operating
since
1989,
and
they
are
extremely
successful
at
what
they
do.
X
They
handle
a
significant
portion
of
all
911
calls
made
to
the
city
of
eugene
for
a
fraction
of
the
cost,
and
I
think,
like
those
are
the
benefits
that
the
city
accrues
from
reimagining
public
safety,
apart
from
just
having
more
trust
in
the
government
from
the
people
that
it
claims
to
represent
in
general.
So
in
on
that,
in
that
regard,
I
think
that
creating
sort
of
an
unarmed
task
force
with
only
five
responders
is
too
lit.
X
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
too
little
and
I
think
that's
detrimental
to
the
viability
of
the
project
in
general,
like
teresa
was
saying
it
seems,
like
you,
guys,
are
setting
up
this
division
of
community
solutions
to
fail
right
from
the
get-go
right,
because
five
people
is
not
going
to
be
enough
to
respond
to
all
of
the
all
of
the
calls
that
they
can
handle
without,
like
also
calling
for
armed
backup.
X
We
spoke
to
the
working
group
and
they
insinuated
that
if
the
five
people
weren't
gonna
weren't
enough
to
handle
calls,
those
calls
would
then
be
forwarded
to
just
regular
armed
ibd
officers,
which
defeats
the
purpose
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
working
group
in
general.
So
I
think
that
if
you
do
want
this
project
to
succeed,
I
do
applaud
that
effort.
X
I
applaud
the
the
move
towards
progressivism
that
the
city
council
is
trying
to
is
trying
to
go
through,
but
I
think
that
if
you
want
this
project
to
succeed,
you
should
be
treating
this
recommendation
as
a
mere
baseline.
We
have
to
be
doing
more
to
fund
the
division
of
community
solutions.
Thank
you.
I
think
that's
my
time.
Y
I
feel
like
you
got
to
start
with
that,
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
be
reading.
Apologies
for
not
looking
at
everyone!
So,
like
I
said
my
name
is
felice
gonzalez.
I
am
a
professor
at
ithaca
college.
I
am
also
a
15-year
resident
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
raising
my
family
here
and
and
I'm
here
as
a
community
member
as
well
and
as
someone
who
worked
alongside
betty,
dedicated
overworked
and
under-appreciated
people
to
gather
and
analyze
data
for
the
reimagining
public
safety
report.
Y
I
thought
that
this
process
would
be
like
so
many
before,
where
we
asked
the
most
marginalized
amongst
us
to
tell
their
stories
to
relive
their
traumas
in
the
name
of
data
collection
and
then
ultimately
dismiss
what
they
were
brave
enough
to
tell
us,
and
I
fear
that
that's
what's
happening,
that
we
would
ask
folks
who
who
work
for
the
city
and
the
county
to
add
yet
another
thing
to
their
plates
in
order
to
add
legitimacy
to
the
process,
that
it
would
all
be
a
setup.
Y
I'm
here
to
tell
you
that
it
is
not
either
or
but
both
and
and
we
have
a
job.
You
have
a
job
as
council
members
and
that
is
to
listen
and
lift
up
the
most
marginalized
amongst
us,
and
so
you
should
ask
yourself
at
every
stage
of
this
process.
What
have
you
done
to
lift
up
to
listen
to
to
sit
with
the
realities
of
those
folks
who
gave
us
the
gift,
and
it
was
a
gift
of
sharing
their
stories,
their
experiences
with
us?
B
K
My
name
is
patricia
fernandez
de
castro.
I've
been
living
in
this
in
tompkins
county
for
the
past
22
years,
and
I
am
the
president
of
the
latino
civic
association
of
tompkins
county
dear
members
of
the
common
council.
I
am
pleased
to
convey
the
support
of
the
latino
civic
association
of
tompkins
county
for
the
reimagining
public
safety
report
recently
delivered
to
the
common
council.
The
lca
is
an
all
volunteer,
501
c
3k
c3
and
the
oldest
latino
organization
in
the
county.
K
K
As
a
member
of
the
latinx
community
of
tompkins
county
and
on
behalf
of
the
latino
civic
association
of
tompkins
county,
I
respectfully
ask
you,
the
members
of
the
common
council
to
approve
the
reimagining
public
safety
report.
We
understand
that
this
change
is
needed
by
for
creating
the
momentum
that
will
move
us
a
step
closer
to
a
place
of
equity,
justice
and
trust.
AB
Charge
yeah,
I
think
you're
right
since
julie
and
and
laura
dropped
off.
AB
Anna
ortiz,
if
you're
there
it's
your
turn
to
speak.
AB
AC
Hey,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
so
my
name
is
anne
ortiz
I
oh,
my
name
is
anne
ortiz.
I
represent
the
nomas
lagima,
no
more
tears.
West
village,
community
and
people
in
the
community,
plus
my
nomas
lagima,
says
starting
doing
a
latino
center.
That
is
not
just
not
provide
only
latino,
just
people
in
the
community,
so
I'm
here
and
represent
west
village
and
any
people
they're
going
in
the
community,
and
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
I'm
against
the
those
stuff.
AC
I
want
the
police
back
in
business
because
people
in
the
community.
AC
So
what
to
say
it's
like
right
now,
I'm
by
myself,
I'm
at
the
center,
but
people
in
the
community
they
stop
by,
and
I
can
tell
you
probably
I'm
by
myself
right
now,
but
I
can
say
behind
me:
it
can
be
10
people,
it
can
be
100
people,
it
can
be
a
thousand
people
because,
as
a
single
mom
they're
having
this
issue
going
on
in
the
community
like,
for
example,
some
shooting
happening
at
the
west
village,
some
shooting
happening
at
the
plane
street
some
chasing.
AC
E
AC
Well,
yeah,
I'm
gonna
stop
by
juliet.
Probably
you
have
to
get
me
some
coffee
or
hot
chocolate,
because
I'm
cool
over
here
anyway
for
my
intended
problem.
Oh
my
gosh!
No,
the
concern
and
the
community
happening
is
right.
Now
it's
like
we
not
feel
safe
right
now
and
and
in
our
local
ethical
community
right
now,
because
one
of
the
concerns
the
family
have
is
like
not
too
long
ago,
it
was
some
chasing
going
to
kajuga,
high
elementary
school
and
the
half
or
the
rest.
The
kids
from
west
virginia.
AD
AC
Right
now,
like
one
of
the
people
in
the
community
very
concerned
about
children,
they
cannot
be
outside
not
even
pray
when
their
own
children,
the
kids
or
the
neighbors
around
in
the
community,
because
they
not
feel
safe,
and
we
need
to
need
to
get
back
to
police
and
get
the
stuff
together
and
then
please
come
and
counsel.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
don't
have
no
issue
with
you
personally
or
not
of
people
in
the
community,
but
please
simply
name
it
started.
AC
AC
So
I
just
want
to
see
like
for
me.
It's
like.
I
do
not
need
to
have
to
be
having
no
signature,
I
think
the
work
day
numbers
lagging
us
and
though
my
the
point
is
that
I'm
by
my
side
than
working
for
long
time
like
they
know
what
we're
doing
and
then
we
are
very
concerned.
It's
like
I
need
to
go
to
sleep.
AC
AB
And
all.
AC
AC
AC
AC
AC
Yeah
yeah,
if
anything
you
know
I'm
here,
then
I'm
trying
to
there's
a
lot
of
concern
going
on
and
you
know
what
I
mean
and
I'm
trying
to
be
back
in
the
business
and
then
you
know
there
we
go
so
I
will
appreciate
you
know
our
safety
for
our
community
and
then
I
will
impersonating.
AC
AB
Thank
you.
Thank
you
thanks
very
much,
I'm
gonna
keep
stalling
for
time,
while
city
hall
continues
to
get
out
of
their
internet
issues,
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
move
on
to
privilege
of
the
floor.
AB
AB
I
I
knew
that
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
many
of
the
proposals
that
are
in
front
of
us
later
on
in
the
agenda.
So
I
will
save
my
comments
with
regards
to
that.
I
I
did
want
to
answer
the
question
by
tom
holland,
who
is
the
retired
police
officer,
and
he
asked
specifically
and
referred
to
an
email
that
I
sent,
which
I
did
sorry
tim
holland,
which
assures
police
officers
that
they
would
retain
their
civil
service
status,
and
I
will
refer
the
listeners
as
well
as
common
council
to
refer
back
to
the
resolution,
which
was
adopted
by
council
on
march
31st
of
2021,
where
we
said
in
a
resolved
that
any
implementation
of
restructuring
that
would
be
done
as
part
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
plan
would
preserve
current
officers
within
the
department
that
they
would
retain
their
position
and
rank
that
they
would
not
be
required
to
re-apply
for
the
positions
and
that
their
civil
service
status
would
be
protected
through
this
process.
AB
I
appreciate
that
I
was
actually
a
little
confused
by
because
I
didn't
remember
that
from
last
year
and
I
found
your
email
and
actually
just
floored
it
right
before
you
were
about
to
speak.
I
forwarded
that
email
to
everybody
in
case
others,
like
me
on
council,
were
confused
by
the
origins
of
those
comments.
I
just
forgotten.
H
E
AC
H
Okay,
very
good,
so
give
me
a
call.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
spoke
tonight.
There
was
really
some
valuable
points
made
by
the
by
the
people
who
called
in
heather.
I
I
really
value
what
you
said
and
you're
right.
We
need
more
tools
in
our
toolbox
and
I
think
you
should
be
part
of
this
reimagining
process.
As
one
of
the
experts
we
consult
alejandro,
I
really
enjoyed
what
you
said
about
community
involvement.
That's
that's
our
goal,
that's
one
of
our
main
goals
and
sarah.
H
I
also
like
very
much
what
you
said,
and
you
said
you're
not
sure
about
a
commissioner,
and
neither
am
I
and
like
you.
I
believe
prevention
is
is
one
of
our
goals,
prevention
of
crime
and
prevention
of
violence.
Before
it
happens,.
H
And
I
want
to
say
to
everyone
who
spoke
tonight
that
this
first
suggestion
by
the
task
force
of
which
I
was
a
member,
is
a
basically
about
restructuring
ipd
and
whether
or
not
this
restructuring
is
approved
or
whether
or
not
it
is
modified
by
council.
H
That's
not
history,
imagining
it's
just
the
beginning,
and
we
have
many
many
many
more
things
to
work
out
and
to
improve.
AA
I'll
just
thank
everyone
who
spoke
tonight
for
their
input.
I
took
a
lot
of
notes
and
I
plan
on
incorporating
them
into
our
discussion
after
this,
but
that's
all
I'll
say
for
now.
Thank
you.
AB
Yeah,
I
also
appreciate
the
breadth
of
comments
that
we
received
tonight
and
we're
gonna
discuss
this
at
length
in
the
days
weeks
months
to
come
so
greatly
appreciate
it.
AB
AF
Just
one
thing
to
throw
out
they're
excited,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
said
before,
but
for
everybody
who,
because
I
saw
that
emails
about
this
earlier,
anybody
who
sent
written
comment
we
on
council
all
got
it
even
if
you
weren't
able
to
speak.
So
I
appreciate
the
triple
digits
that
we
were
reading
through
of
emails
earlier
today
throughout
the
day,
but
it's
gotten
received.
So
if
you
weren't
able
to
speak,
your
comment
is
still
going
to
be
included.
AB
And
if
you
weren't
able
to
speak
because
of
our
technical
difficulties-
and
I
didn't
have
the
the
list
of
speakers
following
anna-
please
do
write
us
and
we
will
reread
everything.
AB
I'm
guessing
not
so
we
are
supposed
to
be
entering
the
the
discussion.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
duckson,
my
sincerest
apologies.
It's
never
a
good
thing
when
technology
doesn't
work,
but
it's
especially
not
a
good
thing
on
a
night
like
tonight.
Let
me
also
express
appreciation
to
everyone
who
did
make
comments
this
evening,
and
let
me
start
assuming
that
our
internet
connection
will
be
stable
for
the
next
few
minutes,
and
let
me
start
by
saying
that
we
have
a
discussion
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
working
group
report
tonight.
B
It
is,
admittedly
an
abbreviated
time
this
evening,
but
I
would
like
to
make
sure
to
focus
our
comments
tonight
on
council's
initial
comments
and
identifying
any
questions.
B
As
my
council
colleagues
know,
we
will
be
holding
a
working
committee
of
the
whole
working
group
a
week
from
tonight
on
april
13th
at
6
pm.
There
will
not
be
that
will
not
be
a
time
for
public
comment.
However,
it
will
be
a
further
opportunity
for
common
council
to
discuss
and
to
make
comment
and
and
to
question
parts
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
report.
Let
me
just
open
the
comment.
Our
comment
time
this
evening
by
reiterating
one
of
the
commenters
this
evening,
balisa
gonzalez,
who
worked
on
the
data
analysis.
B
She
was
extremely
helpful
in
phase
one
of
this
work
and
she
too
called
us
reminded
us
of
the
work
we're
doing
really
being
prompted
by
the
then
governor's
executive
order,
executive
order,
203,
which-
and
I
am
reading
now
from
the
printed
public
safety
working
group
document.
This
is
available
in
multiple
locations
as
hard
copy.
It
is
also
available
on
the
city's
website.
If
anyone
would
like
to
dig
into
it
in
detail,
I
take
it
that
some,
not
all,
but
some
of
our
commenters
tonight
have
had
opportunity
to
do
that.
B
But
let
me
just
reiterate
that
all
municipalities
were
called
upon
to
develop
a
plan
to
improve
public
safety
policies
and
practices
to
better
better
serve
the
community,
including
addressing
any
racial
bias
and
disproportionate
policing
of
communities
of
color.
Local
legislative
bodies
were
directed
to
vote
on
their
plan
and
report
to
the
governor's
office
by
april
1
2021..
B
We
common
council
at
the
time
last
year
did
have
robust
discussions
on
the
resolution
that
was
ultimately
passed
tonight.
I
I
would
like
to
remind
my
colleagues
and
our
audience
that
the
working
group
that
produced
this
report
was
co-led
by
two
highly
regarded
community
members,
well-known
in
our
community
eric
rosario
and
karen
yearwood.
B
The
working
group
composition
included
members
of
common
council,
four
total
myself
ducks
and
nguyen
george
mcgonagall
and
rob
gerhart
also
joined
one
of
the
subcommittees.
B
The
working
group
also
included
travis
from
the
county
legislature,
so
it
also
included
police
officers.
So
for
anyone
who
may
think
the
working
group
was
not
representative
of
the
police
department,
I
can
assure
you
it
was
that
it
was
not
representative
of
elected
officials.
I
can
assure
you
it
was,
and
was
not
reflective
of
community
members.
That
too,
I
can
assure
you
the
working
group
was,
and
you
can
see
the
full
list
of
members
of
the
working
group
at
the
back
of
the
printed
report.
B
So
tonight
I
would
like
my
colleagues
and
I
to
stick
to
factual
information,
especially
factual
information
on
ipd
staffing
levels.
There
have
been
some
changes
at
ipd
as
there
have
been
at
many
organizations
for
that
matter,
including
city
staff
during
the
past
two
years,
and
there
are
multiple
reasons
for
that,
but
it
is
not
the
case
in
my
view
that
the
reimagining
public
safety
work
contributed
disproportionately
to
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
seen.
I
think
we
can
also
all
agree
on
the
value
the
need
for
public
safety
in
our
community.
B
B
There
were
members
of
the
community
who
had
not
felt
comfortable
stepping
forward
with
their
their
comments,
so
it
is
important
to
hear
from
all
members
of
our
community
and
I
would
once
again
encourage
members
of
the
community
to
send
their
written
comments
to
common
council
tonight.
We
will
be
discussing
the
report.
B
B
We
will
have
three
new
police
officers
coming
out
of
the
academy
soon
and
to
entering
the
academy
soon,
so
the
sense
that
the
department
that
there
is
a
desire
to
dismantle
or
to
abolish
the
police
department,
I
want
to
firmly
disavow
that
that
is
not
on
the
on
consideration,
but
we
do
have
a
great
deal
to
discuss.
So
let
me
just
stop
there
and
assuming
wi-fi
continues
to
be
working
in
city
hall,
not
something
that's
always
guaranteed,
as
we've
learned
tonight
and
ducks,
and
thank
you
for
your
assistance.
B
Let
me
now
turn
it
over
to
my
council
colleagues
for
comments
and
again
specifically
comments
on
the
the
report.
We
will,
as
I've
said,
have
a
full
working
session
next
wednesday
to
dive
deeper,
but
tonight
we
should
be
considering
comments
and
identifying
questions
you'd
like
to
have
answers
to
before
next
week's
meeting.
B
J
AB
It
doesn't
matter
mine
will
be
quick
yeah.
You
addressed
this
a
little
bit
laura,
but
a
number
of
comments
and
emails
that
we
received
recently
to
be
frank
made
me
feel
like
I
was
living
in
some
ultimate
universe,
because
the
implication
that
we're
you
know
dramatically
reducing
ipd's
numbers.
I
mean
that
the
criticism
I've
been
getting
is
that
they
have
remained
largely
untouched
in
this
reorganization.
AB
Titles
remain
the
same
numbers
and
staffing
retain
the
same
uniforms
which
we
talked
about
potentially
changing
and
are
not
so
they're.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
there
are
some
very
thoughtful
comments
about
called
delineation,
which
I
feel
is
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
this
and
that's
an
area
where
we
still
have
education
to
do
to
learn.
AB
What's
legal,
what's
practical,
what
is
just
and
up
to
date,
as
I
have
a
campbell
mention,
but
the
criticism
that
ipd
is
negatively
affected
by
it
by
this
is
bizarre
and
out
of
touch
with
the
reality
of
the
report
and
then
that's
something
I
want
to
advise
thanks.
B
Maybe
I'll
just
go
across
what?
What
I
see
is
the
squares
right
now,
so
I
do
see
cynthia
cynthia's
hand
up
cynthia
go
ahead.
Please
thank.
I
You
thank
you
for
for
highlighting
that
the
working
group
had
members
of
common
council
and
members
from
ipd.
I
have
heard
several
comments.
You
know
that
that
ipd
had
not
been
involved,
and
I
just
did
want
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
throughout
this
process.
I
I
have
been
informed
that
members
of
the
working
group
were
prohibited
from
providing
input
or
or
information
to
those
outside
of
the
working
group.
Unlike
other
committees,
no
liaison
updates
were
provided,
no
updates
were
given
to
council,
so
there
really
wasn't
an
opportunity
for
those
members
who
were
either
council
members
or
ipd
members
to
talk
with
their
colleagues
get
their
impressions,
get
their
feedback
and
bring
those
concerns
to
the
working
group.
So
you
know
considering
we
have
10
members
of
council.
I
I
don't
think
that
the
four
members
who
were
involved
are
reflective
of
the
interests
of
council.
They
definitely
don't
speak
for
council
and
you
can't
really
say
that
council
was
involved
in
the
working
group
and
likewise
with
three
members
of
the
police
department
who
were
not
allowed
to
speak
about
the
work
with
their
colleagues.
I
think
it
is
fair
to
say
that
ipd
was
not
involved
in
the
working
group
because
they
didn't
have
a
chance
to
provide
input
or
feedback.
B
Cynthia
cynthia
I'm
sorry
to
to
interrupt,
but
I
must
correct
your
statement
just
now.
First
of
all,
there
were
monthly
updates
at
common
council
on
the
reimagining
public
safety.
There
were
monthly
updates,
so
I.
I
B
I
will
tell
you,
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
first
decisions
we
made
on
the
working
group
was
we
discussed
and,
I
believe,
voted.
Perhaps
this
was
consensus.
Nevertheless,
it
was
widely
held
that
we
did
not
want
to
be
signing
non-disclosure
agreements,
but
we
did
all
working
group
members
agree
to
respect
confidentiality.
B
There
were
members
of
the
community
and
I
will
say
members
of
ipd
who
were
making
suggestions
that
they
wanted
to
be
able
to
feel
free
to
to
make,
and
so
for
that
reason
we
were
not
trying
to
prevent
information.
B
We
were
trying
to
allow
the
working
group
to
do
its
work
in
without
with
confidentiality
at
heart.
I'm
sure
people
on
this
zoom
have
been
members
of
committees
and
organizations
and
groups
where
you
want
the
free
exchange
of
ideas,
and
you
don't
want
to
stifle
people's
participation,
so
they
must
feel
a
sense
of
confidentiality
in
in
making
their
remarks.
So
I
would
just
caution
us
to
stick
to
facts.
B
You
have
said
that
you
have
heard
certain
things
and
again
I
would
just
ask
that
we
stick
to
factual
comments
right
now
on
the
report.
So.
I
You
have
confirmed
that
there
was
confidentiality
and
the
working
group
progress
was
not
discussed
and
therefore
it
is
fair
to
say
that
council
was
not
involved
and
nor
was
ipd
involved
and
only
those
members
involved
were
involved.
So
when
people
say
it
is
untrue
that
council
and
ipd
were
not
involved.
It
is
in
fact
true
that
they
were
not
well.
I
That
I
would
like
to
pass
to
eric
and
karen,
as
as
the
co-leads
of
the
working
group,
so
hi.
I
Does
it
speaks
to
the
makeup
and
the
input
that
went
into
the
report
and-
and
I
think
it
is
valid
to
ask
these
questions
so
hi
eric
hi
karen.
I
So
my
first
question
to
you
is,
you
know:
I
recognize
that
as
co-chairs
and
as
all
members
of
the
working
group
were
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
as
appointment
by
the
mayor
to
this
group
in
order
to
provide
a
service
to
council
to
recognize
as
as
eric,
I
know
you,
you
do
because
you're
a
former
council
member
that
technically
you
are
city
officials,
working
on
official
business
of
the
city
and
are
fall
under
the
review
of
our
city.
I
Ethics
policy
and
part
of
that
is
to
establish
standards
so
that
we
can
demonstrate
that
there
is
no
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest
or
undue
influence.
So
my
question
then,
for
eric
is.
I
Building
off
of
a
comment
that
I
heard
karen
say
that
a
system
is
designed
to
get
the
results
that
it
gets
so
eric
when
you
became
aware
of
cpe
having
an
intention
of
dismantling
the
police
department
when
that
became
evident
in
august,
and
you
were
aware
that
cpe
was
providing
their
consultant
matrix.
Consulting
to
do
the
data
analysis
for
call
delineation.
AG
Hi
everyone
good
to
see
everyone
and
to
cynthia's
question,
and
I
appreciate
cynthia
your
your
your
you
know
the
concern
that
you're
expressing
and
your
utmost
commitment
to
the
highest
ethical
standards
and
that
we
apply
those.
So
I
take
your
question
in
that
spirit.
AG
Our
charge
was
outlined
by
common
council
in
that
march
31st
resolution.
AG
It
was
pretty
clear
and
that's
what
we
were
working
towards
that
charge,
some
of
which
was
mentioned
today,
alluded
to
specifically
the
portion
of
the
resolution
regarding
the
keeping
the
you
know,
police
titles
and
their
roles
intact,
as
defined
by
the
civil
service.
That
was
all
pretty
clearly
spelled
out.
AG
So
that's
what
we
were
working
towards.
I
didn't
see
in
that
resolution
anything
about
dismantling.
I
didn't
see
anything
in
that
resolution
about
anything
approximating
that
that
resolution.
The
reason
I
signed
up
was
because
I
believed
in
what
you
all
voted
on
unanimously
on
march
31st
and
in
that
resolution,
and
in
that
model,
which
is
what
we
worked
around,
you
asked
us
to
come
up
with
designs
around
that
model.
AG
You
asked
us
to
come
up
with
naming
conventions
around
that
model,
and-
and
so
my
I
also
welcomed
at
the
beginning
of
this
process,
when
the
mayor
asked
me
if
I
would
consider
leading
this
and
as
most
of
you
might
imagine,
when
I
talk
to
people
about
whether
or
not
I
should
do
this,
95
percent
of
people
said
I
should
run
for
the
hills,
and
you
know
I
one
of
the
things
I
said
to
the
mayor
was
that
I
could
not
do
this
by
myself
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
work
that
cpe
did
in
the
first
phase
of
this
really
impressed
with
the
approach
with
the
focus
groups.
AG
With
what
I
read
in
that
report
I
spoke
out.
I
think
I
don't
remember.
AG
I
think
it
was
that
that
march
31st
meeting
in
favor
of
of
the
of
what
council
was
considering,
because
on
the
strength
of
that
report,
so
I
I
asked
for
the
cpe
support
in
this,
because
I
could
not
do
that
all
by
myself
and
if
you're,
referring
to
you,
know
the
interview
that
was
given
in
august
that
I
learned
about,
probably
as
everyone
did
by
the
co-founder.
AG
No,
I
I
looked
at
all
the
work
that
had
been
done
in
that
first
phase.
I
looked
at
the
resolution
that
common
council
voted
on
and
that's
what
cpe
was
supporting
us
towards
realizing
all
the
things
that
you
asked
us
to
do,
and
I
saw
nothing
and
nothing
that
would
have
me
think
anyway.
Otherwise,
and
that's
what
we've
done,
I
think
we've
met
that
charge,
and
so,
if
you
talk
about
dismantling,
I
don't
see
that
anywhere
in
the
report.
AG
B
Excuse
me,
could
we
have?
Could
we
just
have
karen?
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
add
any
comment
before
cynthia
goes
on,
and
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
from
all
members
of
council
tonight
who
wish
to
speak
and
we
will
have
opportunity
next
wednesday.
If
you
want
to
continue
a
certain
line
of
thought.
But
karen
did
you
want
to
add
anything
to
eric's,
laura.
AG
There
was
one
other
thing
I
forgot
to
add
and
then
karen
and
that's
that
when
that
interview
came
out
we
did
have
the
working
group
did
meet
with
that
co-founder,
philip
ativa
golf
and
he
offered
you
know
his
explanation
and
an
apology
and
many
members
of
the
working
group
spoke.
You
know
who
were
upset
about
that
said
they
accepted
his
apology
and
so
we
moved
on.
AG
So
it's
not
as
if
we
ignored
it
as
well.
Just
wanted
to
add
that
as
well.
AH
Here
in
the
city
of
ithaca,
we
have
30
000
regular
residents
and
doubles
that
with
college
students,
there
was
representation
on
the
working
group
from
each
group
and
with
three
police
officers
and
common
council
members
and
community
members
at
large
and
monthly
meetings
were
given
to
common
council
starting
from
august
every
month
there
was
either
representation
from
common
council
member
the
how
eric
did
so
as
well
as
shelly
michelle
nunn.
So
there
was
ample
representation
throughout
for
this
working
group.
B
Thank
you,
and
I'm
just
reminded,
as
karen
is
speaking-
that
duckson
also
gave
a
report
I
believe
early
early
on.
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
in
our
limited
time
tonight
from
other
council
members,
so
cynthia
happy
to
come
back
to
your
comments
once
others
have
had
opportunity
to
speak.
We
do
have
a
full
agenda
tonight,
so
this
whole
council
meeting
tonight
will
not
be
devoted
to
this,
albeit
extremely
important
issue,
and
that's
why
we've
called
for
a
committee
of
the
whole
one
week
from
tonight,
but
jorge
I.
J
Know
it's
right.
No,
no
good
deed,
no
worries,
but
I
appreciate
it
yeah.
No,
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
again.
I
I've
spoken
to
numerous
members
of
council
to
the
working
group
folks
here
karen
and
eric
thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done,
I'm
very
supportive
of
of
the
work
that
has
gone
into
the
working
group
and
any
hesitancy
or
or
concerns.
J
I
have
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
work
that
you
all
have
done,
but
as
if
I'm
being
frank
here,
as
has
to
do
with
the
with
the
limitations
and
that
that
were
put
on
you
by
in
my
estimate,
council
in
terms
of
the
the
department
of
community,
the
division
of
community
solutions,
I
I
love
everything
that's
gone
into
that,
like
I
love
a
great
deal
that
has
gone
into
this.
J
This
report,
I'm
just
concerned
that
it's
with
a
forward
front
front
foot,
and
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
this-
a
lot
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
first
year.
This
is
the
first
plank
of
the
report,
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
first
sort
of
phase
of
it
and
it
will
develop
over
time.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
just
not
setting
it
up
to
fail
like
like
commenters
expressed
today
during
public
comment.
J
I
just
feel
like
in
my
estimate
that
five
responders
on
our
responders
just
is,
is
not
enough,
and
and
if
we
we
talk
about
the
division
of
police,
that
we've
maintained
as
is,
and
we
have
the
division
of
community
solutions,
the
disparity
there
is
is
is
real,
and
I've
heard
from
you
all
that
you
know,
even
though
the
division
of
community
solutions
is
going
to
be
handling
a
third
of
this,
the
five
responders
at
the
get-go
will
not
be
tasked
with
doing
with
with
handling
that
one-third.
J
Well,
then,
we're
not
setting
them
up
to
to
to
handle
what
we
tasked
them
to
and
I'm
just
afraid
that
with
long
term
as
the
project
goes
underway
that
at
the
end
of
it,
it
won't
be
able
to
live
up
to
its
fullest
potential
because
we
hamstrung
it
and
and
it's
going
to
be
open
to
detractors
and
and
and
then
the
members
of
even
members
of
this
council
might
be
willing
to
sort
of
want
to
scrap
it
or
move
into
a
different
direction,
which
would
defeat
the
whole
process.
J
And
so
I
I
really
want
the
things
in
this
report
that
are
good
to
be
strengthened
and
great.
I
like,
what's
here,
I
like,
what's
been
done,
I
I
wanted
to
see
it
stronger
and
and
more
resolved,
and
I
know
I
think
robert
you'll
probably
touch
on
this
a
little
bit.
I
have
some
concerns
about
what
the
long-term
funding
of
of
this
division
and
this
overall
project
is
going
to
look
like.
I
I'm
just
concerned
that
you
know
we
don't.
J
I
we're
asking
a
lot
of
folks
here
with
these,
with
these
new
divisions
and
these
new,
these
new
roles
to
essentially
build
the
house
and
then
we're
not
asking
we're
not
giving
them
the
nails
to
do
so,
and-
and
I
don't
want
us-
you
know
to
be
in
the
situation
where
a
lot
of
the
work
that
members
of
this
community
have
done
will
be
for
naught
when,
in
a
couple
of
years
terms,
when
they're
asked
to
explain
what
they've
done,
they
didn't
have
enough
nails
to
build
the
house,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
asking
them
to
either
perform
another
miracle
or
scrap
the
project
entirely.
J
And
so,
if
this
is
the
first
foot
that
we're
taking
the
first
step
towards
it,
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
a
really
strong
one,
and
I
think
we
should
be
pushing
for
more
than
currently
resides
here.
And
you
know
that's
my
piece
on
the
matter.
B
Thank
you,
jorge
and,
and
if
my
colleagues
will
allow
me,
as
both
the
person
facilitating
this
meeting
and
and
also
perhaps
more
importantly,
as
a
working
group
member
you're,
reminding
me
of
a
couple
of
comments
that
I
was
remiss
in
not
mentioning,
and
one
is
that
there
are
members
of
the
community
who
have
responded
to
the
working
group
report
to
say
it
does
not
go
far
enough.
B
We've
heard
from
other
members
of
the
community
saying
it
goes
too
far
and
we've
heard
from
members
of
the
community
who
have
made
the
point
you
have
about
the
number
number
five
unarmed
community
solutions.
Community
responders
is
what
we
initially
landed
on,
because
in
some
ways
this
is
a
new
model.
It's
an
experiment
and
the
the
budget
will
span
multiple
budget
years.
AA
Thank
you
very
much.
I
will
limit
my
comments
to
things
that
colleagues
have
not
already
said.
First
for
the
public's
benefit,
what
is
the
report
proposing?
AA
AA
AA
Called
delineation,
which
ducks
and
touched
on,
and
what
I
understand
to
be
an
operational
decision.
That
is
also
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
ari
and
others
is
currently
undergoing
a
legal
review.
AA
AA
AA
I'll
conclude
with
just
saying
a
couple
of
things
about
what
I
think
the
report
needs
and
I'll
acknowledge
again,
karen
and
eric.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
It
was
not
the
mandate
of
the
working
group
to
project
operations
out
beyond
initial
recommendations.
I
want
to
acknowledge
again
what
what
jorge
said
about
sustainability.
AA
AA
Another
thing
I've
said
several
times
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with,
and
some
individuals
this
week
about
independent
evaluation.
AA
AA
I
think
it
also
would
be
worth
addressing
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
received
from
district
attorney
van
houghton
tonight
with
respect
to
expanding
the
type
of
training
that
an
unarmed
force
would
have.
I
don't
think
anybody
on
this
call
would
want
a
training
deficiency
for
some
of
our
unarmed
workers
to
compromise
a
situation
that
that
maybe
escalates
into
a
into
a
into
a
crime
scene
or
a
criminal
altercation.
AA
Again,
a
lot
of
other
things
have
been
touched
on
by
my
colleagues,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
I
will,
I
will
yield
back.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
rob
george,
saw
your
hand
up.
H
I
I
have
some
specific
questions
about
the
budget
that's
being
proposed
and
I
I
will
say
that
I
I
have
some
concerns
about
hiring
a
commissioner
on
top
of
a
chief
of
police
and
director
of
the
unarmed
unit
and
underneath
presumably
the
mayor
or
city
manager.
B
Thanks,
george,
and
and
here
too
I'll
I'll,
just
add
the
comment
that
we
we
don't
know
in
response
to
my
response
to
your
question
about
office
staff,
we
don't
know
where
there
could
potentially
be
the
potential
for
shared
services,
shared
administrative
services,
for
example.
So
that's
something
still
to
be
considered
to
be
determined.
B
Well,
shared
staff,
for
example,
whether
it
is
administrative
support
that,
whether
that
means
payroll,
we
don't
have
all
position
descriptions
fully,
flushed
out.
B
Okay,
patrick.
AF
I
don't
have
another
meeting
next
week,
but
so
I
just
want
to
ask
questions.
I
guess
the
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
for
ari
or
who
it's
for,
but
in
terms
of
how
collective
bargaining
goes
in
the
sense
of
how
we,
as
the
city
negotiate
with
the
pba.
AF
How
do
these
five
new
people
fall
into
that
system?
Is
there
be
treating
it
like?
It's
two
separate
bargaining
unions,
even
even
if
like
say
that,
now
community
safety,
one
isn't
organized,
is
it
two
separate
units
we
negotiate
with,
or
I
guess
what
does
that
look
like.
W
Yeah,
so
thank
you,
patrick.
That's
indeterminate
in
the
sense
that
it's
not
in
the
end
up
to
the
city.
What
are
how
the
marketing
units
perform?
I'm
happy
to
discuss
that
further
separately
as
well,
but
I
think
it
it
does.
It
doesn't
have
an
answer
at
this
time.
AI
Yeah
thanks
laura,
and
I
won't
necessarily
add
things
that
my
colleagues
have
already
very
carefully
shared
and
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
add
one
other
question
and
it
sort
of
picks
up
a
little
bit
on
what
patrick
was
just
asking
and
also
some
of
what
we
heard
tonight
from
commenters.
AI
AI
AI
And
so
I
want
to
focus
on
that
and
maybe
ask
some
questions
and
thinking
ahead
a
little
bit.
So
if
we
were
to
begin
to
feel
some
pressures
around
the
budget,
what
can
we
do
to
help
us
feel
more
confident
that
we
could
see
the
kind
of
culture
shift
that
we
really
need
to
happen
inside
one
organization
rather
than
creating
a
separate
organization
and
a
new
umbrella
structure
over
that?
And
so
so
ari?
I
I
don't
know
if
those
are
questions
that
become
you
know,
what
are
the
impacts
of
a
structure
like
that?
AI
What
does
it
mean
to
have
a
chief
who
may
also
be
a
civilian
like
the
commissioner
would
be
you
know,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
questions
for
me
wrapped
up
in
if
we
feel
that
pressure
between
the
budgetary
constraints
and
the
ultimate
goals
of
what
we
had
started
out
to
accomplish,
how
do
we
reconcile
those
so
just
being
prepared
for
those
kinds
of
issues?
I
think
in
our
conversations
is
what
I'm
asking
for,
not
necessarily
for
a
response
right
now.
B
I
think
that's
a
very
good
question
and
one
exactly
the
kind
of
question
that
we
can
be
thinking
about
getting
additional
information
and
spending
a
greater
amount
of
time
discussing
next
wednesday.
So
thank
you
rob
no
answer
tonight,
but
thank
you
for
the
question.
B
George.
Did
you
have
your
hand
up
again.
H
I
would
submit
that
the
culture
at
ipd
now
is
very
different
than
it
was
in
the
1990s
I'll
I'll
just
remind
us
that
shelley
has
been
active
in
hiring
the
officers
we
have
now.
Former
mayor,
cevante
myrick
was
as
well.
H
We
have
a
good,
we
have
good
officers
at
ipd
and
when
you
talk
about
culture
change,
I
actually
think
that
that
is
it's
more
important
at
the
sergeant
level,
if
you
will
than
bringing
in
a
new
commissioner,
I
we
have
a
strong
group
of
sergeants
and
they
are
emphasizing
community
involvement
and
helping
people,
and
you
don't
have
to
take
my
word
for
it.
I
I
just
encourage
you
to
find
out
for
yourself.
B
Thanks
george
cynthia.
I
I
Center
policing,
on
the
experience
of
people
of
color,
which
is
absolutely
important-
and
you
look
at
me
and
don't
realize,
of
course,
that
I
have
a
22
year
old
black
son
who
lives
in
this
community
works
in
the
community
works.
Downtown
is
engaged
every
day
and,
of
course,
this
means
a
lot
to
me
and
to
the
people.
I
love
because
it's
very
intimate
to
my
family,
so
it
is
important
to
me.
I
It
is
also
important
that
I
I
definitely
recognize
to
address
culture
change
within
the
department
address
culture
change
anywhere.
You
need
trust,
you
need
buy-in
and
you
need
support,
and
it
is
so
frustrating
to
me
that
this
process
has
been
so
tainted
and
opportunities
to
put
together
a
system
and
bring
in
consultants
and
advisors
who
are
who
did
not
bring
with
them.
I
A
the
impression
of
a
conflict
of
interest
was
just
wasteful
to
all
the
good
effort
that
everybody
has
brought
to
this
process,
and
it
is
just
disappointing
because
I
think
the
potential
here
was
great
if
we
could
have
brought
everybody
to
the
table
and
allowed
them
to
feel
heard
and
and
that,
if
I
sound
frustrated,
that's
where
it
comes
from,
and-
and
I
say
this-
with
the
deepest
respect
to
eric
and
karen-
who
are
personal
friends
of
mine-
although
maybe
eric
won't
speak
to
me
after
this,
but
you
know
I
I
respect
them
both
deeply
and
for
years,
personal,
personal
friends.
I
So
this
is
just
frustrating
to
me.
So,
okay,
all
right,
I've
said
it
it's
out
there
I'm
going
to
have
some
questions.
My
question
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
I
find
confusing
and
I
think
members
of
the
public
find
confusing
has
to
do
with
the
unarmed
first
responders.
I
I
hear
people
talking
about
the
cahoots
model.
The
cahoots
model
is
a
volunteer
group
of
individuals
who
don't
respond
to
emergency
situations.
They
don't
respond
to
9-1-1
calls
they
respond
to
non-emergency
calls
and
they
bring
in
volunteers
who
bring
with
them
a
whole
variety
of
skill
sets.
I
So
when
we
talk
about
first
responders,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
ask
a
question.
My
understanding
is
these
first
responders
are
not
handling
mental
health.
Calls
that
those
calls
would
actually
go
to
people
with
expertise
in
mental
health.
They're
not
handling
addiction
service.
Calls
that
those
calls
under
this
new
system
would
go
to
you
know
again:
mental
health
and
addiction
services.
These
are
county
services.
These
are
county
responses,
not
city
responses,
so
that
these
would
still
these
unarmed
responders
are
still
responding
to
emergency
law
enforcement.
I
Calls
right
that
could
not
be
diverted
to
a
mental
health
call
or
an
addiction
recovery
call.
So
I
I
do
want
to
clarify
if
somebody
could
explain
that,
so
that
we
could
understand
it,
because
I
will
say
that
we
are
the
city,
we
don't
do
mental
health,
that's
going
to
be
someone
else,
we're
not
expecting
these
unarmed
first
responders
to
be
mental
health
responders.
I
Are
they
still
police
officers
or
are
they
not
police
officers,
but
we
expect
them
to
do
law
enforcement
things
and
then
my
question
then
becomes.
Is
that
even
legal
going
back
to
the
district
attorney's
comment
like
if
someone
is
gathering
evidence
and
for
that
evidence
be
used
in
a
court
of
law
if
half,
if
it
has
to
don't,
they
actually
have
to
be
a
police
officer?
I
So
could
somebody
explain
to
me
what
these
just
clarify?
Are
these
unarmed
responses,
police
officers,
law
enforcement
officers
or
are
they
not?
Can
you
clarify
and
confirm
these
are
not
mental
health
respondents?
These
are
not
addiction,
recovery
respondents.
These
are
not
social
services
respondents.
These
are.
These
are
respondents
that
are
responding
for
emergency
calls
going
to
9-1-1
and
technically
a
legal
response.
Could
you
clarify
that
please.
B
Well,
I'll
I'll,
just
jump
in
and
say
that
the
community
responders
are
not
police
officers.
B
B
There
will
be
calls
where
both
armed
and
unarmed
response
will
be
there
and
then,
after
assessing
a
call,
a
situation,
it
can
be
deemed
a
safe
situation
that
could
be
handled
by
an
unarmed
officer
but
I'll,
let
others
jump
in
with
any
any
responses
to
that.
I've
got
another
response
to
one
of
the
things
you
raised,
but
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
comment
on
that.
B
AH
Yes,
thank
you,
laura
mayor
lewis,
sorry
and
under
the
unarmed
responders,
with
the
division
of
community
solutions.
We
stated
one
of
the
call
types
was
property
check,
so
the
unarmed
responders
would
respond
to
quality
of
life,
calls
that
go
through
9-1-1,
so
property
check
and
and
other
calls
like
that-
and
someone
had
stated
before
about
we're
building
a
house
we're
not
building
a
house
from
scratch.
We're
expanding
a
house
is
what
we're
doing,
and
in
that
expansion
we
looked
at
the
cahoots
model.
AH
We
looked
at
other
models,
but
we
heard
the
needs
of
this
community
of
the
black
brown
community,
the
unhoused
community
members,
the
individuals
that
have
been
disproportionately
served
by
police,
so
we
listened
and
heard
from
them
from
the
first
phase
back
in
2020,
as
well
as
throughout
this
whole
process,
when
our
working
group
have
been
active
and
where
what
what's
different,
I
won't
go
into
the
different
op-eds
that's
been
coming
through.
AH
AH
B
Go
ahead,
so
I'm
sorry
eric
did
you
did
you
want
to
respond
to
that
point?
Eric.
AG
Yeah
I'll
add
a
little
bit
more
to
what
karen
said.
If
that's
okay,
cynthia
and
you
know
we'll
still
be
friends,
you
know
this
is
this-
is
a
community
right,
that's
really
engaged
and
we
debate
and
we
go
through
this
and
I
would
hope
we
would
all
still
be
friends.
Even
if
we
hold
very
you
know
wide-ranging
views
on
things
or
wide-ranging
views
on
processes
or
whatever
it
might
be.
You
know
I,
I
think,
that's,
that's!
AG
That's
the
beauty
of
our
community,
so
I
would
hope
that
you
know
we're
all
still
gonna
get
together
and
still
talk
and
enjoy
our
new
department
of
community
safety.
Sorry
thank.
AG
AG
So,
just
just
one
thing:
one
point
you
mentioned
cahoots
so
kahoot's
actually
and
you're
right.
They
are
a
they're,
not
part
of
the
municipal
they're,
not
part
of
eugene
oregon
as
part
of
the
municipal
government
they're
handled
by
the
white
bird
clinic.
But
just
just
a
point
of
I
think
you
may
have
said
they
don't
get
911
calls,
and
you
may
have
meant
that
in
another
sense,
but
I
just
want
to
just
want
to
confirm
actually
that
911
calls
are
rerouted
to
cahoots.
AG
They
get
911
calls
the
911
calls
that
they
get
are
related
to
addiction,
disorientation,
mental
health
crisis
and
homelessness.
So
they
are
part
of
the
of
the
dispatch
menu
of
options
along
with
police
and
ems.
So
they
are
part
of
that.
AG
So
they
do
get
911
calls
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
those
areas,
mental
health
are
a
county
responsibility,
and
we
we
write
about
that
here,
that
we
recognize
that
that
that-
and
we
also
know
that
we're
just
one
plank
in
this
whole
reimagining
process
and
there's
another
one
which
is
evaluating
existing
models
and
implementing
an
alternative
to
law
enforcement
response
system
for
crises,
intervention
and
wrap
around
health
and
human
service
delivery.
So
what
we're
recognizing
is
you
know?
AG
Maybe
there
could
be
a
role
for
the
city
in
partnership
with
the
county
in
that
area,
and
basically
this
is
a
blueprint
and
we
say
we
we
we
say
explicitly
these.
There
are
certain
types
of
calls
that
need
to
be
further.
We
need
to
have
further
refinement
of
them
with
the
help
of
the
commissioner
and
the
director
and
working
with
all
the
stakeholders.
So
you
know
commenter
said
this
is
kind
of
a
baseline.
AG
I
would
say
this
is
the
beginning
of
with
certain
calls
to
and
working
through
the
other
planks
for
a
great
opportunity
to
really
build
on
this
blueprint
that
we're
giving
this
is
not
the
end-all
be-all
and
which
is
relates
to
also
the
da's
op-ed
like
he
mentioned
one
specific
example:
sexual
offense.
You
know
in
the
collecting
of
evidence
we
actually
put
that
in
the
category
of
it
depends,
we
didn't
say,
and
it
depends
we
we
say
clearly.
AG
There
are
a
couple
of
ways
that
this
might
be
handled
and
it
depends
could
be
corresponds,
could
be
that
an
undergrowth
comes
first
or
maybe
the
arm
comes
first
or
maybe
they
arrive
simultaneously
or
maybe
there's
what's
known
as
staging,
where
the
goes
in
first
and
then
unarmed
follows
up.
We've
never
said
that,
with
with
any
of
those
calls,
an
unarmed
responder
will
come
first
to
collect
evidence.
AG
We
had
law
enforcement,
a
very
robust
law
enforcement
presence
in
the
on
the
on
the
task
force,
and
we
talked
about
on
the
working
group,
and
we
talked
about
that
explicitly,
actually
that
that
one
category
that
you're
going
to
need
currently
in
our
current
model
would
be
a
police
officer,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
over
time
as
we
continue
to
refine
this
model,
you
do
have
some
places
where
an
underresponder
would
collect
evidence
who
are
members
of
a
lab
that
isn't
that
in
some
jurisdictions
you
can
have.
AG
That
will
would
with
this
with
the
architecture
that
we're
providing.
You
know,
allow
give
us
the
flexibility
to
over
time.
Think
about
maybe
having
that.
Why
not,
but
it
does
and
that's
what
that's
the
beauty
of
what
we're
proposing.
AG
AG
So
that's
all.
I
wanted
to
add
on
that
piece
that
this
is
not
meant
to
say
this
is
the
end-all
be-all
that
we've
written
here,
but
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
refinement
and
that
kind
of
flexibility
to
refine
this
further,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
were
starting
with
five
as
well
as
we
as
we
get
into
this,
but
I'll
stop
there.
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
to
what
karen
said.
B
Thanks
eric
and
and
karen
george
is
your
hand
up
and,
and
I.
D
B
H
Fair
enough,
I
want
to
speak
to
jorge's
concerns,
and
I
also
want
to
make
a
comment
on
what
karen
said
jorge.
I
think
the
five
number
is
is
very
small,
and
but
we
don't
really
know
how
how
they're
going
to
work
yet
and
where
they'll
be
most
effective.
This
is
this
is
new
and
the
two,
the
two
units,
the
police
and
the
community
resolutions
officers,
are
going
to
have
to
work
together
to
figure
out
how
these
calls
can
best
be
handled
the
and
the
police.
H
Now
when,
when
there's
a
new
officer,
they
they
spend
almost
a
year
with
another
officer
learning
the
ropes,
so
I
think
the
the
unarmed
people
will
be
primarily
working
with
with
police
officers
at
least
initially,
and
I
think
the
police
are
looking
forward
to
having
help
from
an
unarmed
force
and
cooperating
together
to
karen's
point
about.
H
H
H
H
That's
key,
but
we
we
need
to
protect
our
underserved
population
as
well.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks
george
jeffrey
last
comment
question
before
we
move
on.
AJ
I
sure
yeah,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
speak
to
two
different
things.
One
is
what
I
did
not
hear
in
eric
and
karen's
answer
to
cynthia's
inquiry,
which
I
think
at
the
heart
of
that
was
just
what
is
the
actual
legal
definition
of
these
two
different
roles
and
between
the
unarmed
and
the
armed
officers.
AJ
What
are
the
parameters
of
their
function
and
I
think,
what's
important
in
understanding
that
clearly
is
we
need
to
know
the
liabilities
of
having
these
two
different
kinds
of
officers
working
in
conjunction
with
each
other
working
separately
from
each
other.
That's
been
a
concern
of
mine
from
the
beginning
of
this
whole
process,
understanding
the
legal
liability
that
the
city
has
when
an
officer
who
was
instructed
to
work
this
way,
it
just
doesn't
go
the
way
they
expected
and
really
we
should
have
had
different
officer.
A
different
kind
of
officer
address
the
issue.
AJ
AJ
I
guess
in
in
policing
daily
day-to-day
and
the
other
thing
is
to-
and
maybe
it's
nice
to
bring
a
little
closure
to
this
initial
conversation
here
is
to
refer
back
to
ducks
point
to
suggest
that
nothing
significant
is
really
changing
here
for
the
ipd
that
really
runs
contrary
and
even
diminishes.
AJ
I
think
our
perception
of
the
public's
perception
of
of
how
serious
this
work
is
and
how
serious,
significant
and
substantial
it
is
that
we
are
discussing
this
to
bring
an
issue
that
has
the
potential
of
requiring
a
referendum
to
the
the
forefront
of
our
conversation
and
to
spend
over
a
year
talking
about
it.
That
is
significant
and
substantial,
and
it
has
had
repercussions.
I
think
I
heard
very
clearly
and
wrote
about
it
this
week.
It
has
had
repercussions
on
on
folks
who
decided
they
could
not
stay
at
the
the
the
police
department.
AJ
Under
these
circumstances,
the
turmoil
that
we
have
created
through
this
conversation
and
that
in
the
ranks
of
the
ipd
that
is
real
and
undeniable,
it
is
significant
and
substantial.
So
I
I
think
we
should
be
careful
there.
B
Thank
you,
jeffrey
yeah,
and
I
I
think
you
know
I
I
would
agree
with
you
that
we
should
be
careful
in
drawing
conclusions.
You
know,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
there
are
staff
members
who
have
retired
in
multiple
departments
in
the
city
and
in
other
organizations
as
well.
Recruiting
is
a
challenge
in
all
organizations,
so
I
would
first
let
me
apologize
for
being
flustered
at
the
outset
of
this
discussion.
B
The
challenge
of
the
city's
wi-fi
going
on
and
off
flummoxed
me
and
did
not
maybe
have
me
begin
this
discussion
in
as
common
manner
as
I
might
have
preferred,
but
I
do
appreciate
everyone's
comments
and
questions.
B
I
also
appreciate
ducks
and
coming
and
saving
the
day
earlier,
when
I
couldn't
get
back
on
quickly
enough,
but
it
seems
that
we
have
plenty
of
areas
to
discuss
next
week
at
the
committee
of
the
whole
on
the
13th
budget,
questions,
unarmed
responders
role,
training
and
some
questions
about
the
what
is
permitted
of
those
those
officers
and
a
few
of
you
have
commented,
and-
and
we
heard
this
earlier
too-
of
the
importance
of
the
two
units
working
closely
together.
B
Forgive
me,
but
the
image
I
keep
thinking
of
is
that
if
our
dpw
streets
and
facilities
does
not
work
closely
with
water
and
sewer,
our
city
is
not
well
served.
Taxpayers
are
not
well
served
and
we
want
to
do
everything
possible
to
ensure
public
safety
for
all
members
of
the
community.
We
want
to
be
cognizant
of
costs
and
I
think,
as
someone
else
has
sort
of
alluded,
you
know
our
budgets
follow
our
values
and
there
are
times
when
we
will
make
those
difficult
decisions,
because
our
budgets
will
follow
our
values.
B
One
one
great
example
in
the
past
couple
of
years
in
our
budget
discussions
is
the
budgetary
commitment
the
city
has
made
to
the
green
new
deal,
for
example,
so,
there's
more
to
discuss.
B
We
will
have
opportunity
for
further
discussion
next
wednesday
and
I
do
appreciate
everyone's
comments
and
questions,
and
hopefully
wi-fi
hopefully
city
wi-fi
will
work
for
for
the
remainder
of
of
our
meeting.
So
I
would
also
like
to
thank
eric
and
karen
for
joining
us
tonight.
Responding
to
questions.
B
The
last
thing
I
will
mention
is
there
have
been
a
number
of
town
halls.
This
is
in
response
to
one
of
cynthia's
questions
or
comments
about
who
has
has
been
informed,
and
there
were
you
know
in
phase
one.
There
were
interviews
now
with
this
report.
There
are
multiple
town
halls
I
think.
At
the
there
was
a
black
town
hall.
There
was
a
latino
civic
association
town
hall.
There
was
a
wide
open
town
hall
that
had
50
some
people
in
attendance.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
around
this
discussion.
We
live
in
a
small
community
and
I
know
that
I
bump
into
people
on
the
street
who
want
to
talk
about
this.
So
I
think
it's
very
good
that
we
are
having
these
discussions
and
these
discussions
will
continue
as
me
as
we
move
forward.
There
also
has
been
input
from
community
leaders
of
color.
There
was
a
meeting
just
the
other
morning
and
they
were
able
to
make
comments
and
and
voice
support
for
for
this
plan.
B
So
at
this
point,
let's
all
take
a
deep
sigh
and
move
through
our
our
agenda
tonight.
Okay,
thanks.
Everyone!
Next
on
our
agenda
is
the
consent
agenda.
B
It
was
cynthia
requested
that
3.2
approval
of
recreational
partnership
agreement
be
removed
from
consent,
as
well
as
removal
of
the
release
of
southside
community
center
funding
in
2022
budget.
So
when
we
move
past
the
consent
agenda
and
I'll
turn
the
floor
over
to
my
colleague
and
chair
of
city
administration,
robert
cantomo,
he
will
tell
us
where
he
wants
to
add
those
items,
but
is:
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
amended
robert
and
second
rob?
B
That
looks
unanimous,
okay,
thank
you.
So
much
and
robert
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
now.
AA
Thank
you
very
much,
all
right
and
so
I'll
start
with
existing
4.1
dpw
request
to
increase
authorization
of
capital
project,
869
college
avenue,
reconstruction
and
award
contract
for
construction,
and
just
this
is
again
a
project
where
essentially,
it's
designing
and
building
an
underground
telecom
system,
accommodating
city
and
nice
egg,
underground
infrastructure
and
then
reconstructing
the
street
and
sidewalks
at
mitchell.
Street
dryden
road.
AA
Resolved
that
the
common
council
hereby
approves
the
above
subject
project
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
sum
of
1
million
850
000
is
hereby
appropriated
from
the
issuance
of
serial
bonds
and
made
available
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
project
and
be
it
further
resolved.
The
common
council
here
by
a
men's
capital
project,
869
college
avenue
reconstruction
to
include
the
additional
project
cost
of
1.85
million
dollars,
bringing
the
total
authorization
to
2.85
million
and
be
it
further
resolved.
AA
The
common
council
directs
the
engineering
division
to
submit
all
eligible
costs
in
excess
of
the
original
1
million
authorized
for
this
project
to
the
new
york
state
department
of
transportation
for
reimbursement
and
be
further
resolved.
The
superintendent
of
public
works
is
hereby
authorized
to
award
the
construction
contract
to
seneca
stone.
Corporation
2747
canoga
road
seneca
falls
new
york
for
their
low
bid
of
2.26
million
and
proceed
with
the
project
and
I'll
move.
The
resolution
as
written.
AA
Oh
sure,
is
there
a
second,
I
see
patrick.
AA
Again
this
is,
I
mean,
as
you'll,
see
in
the
attached
packet
right
there's
a
this
is
an
existing
project,
fairly
straightforward,
but
we
do
have.
I
think
I
saw
tim
yeah
here
he
is
tim
is
here.
If,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
see
cynthia.
I
Hi
tim,
thank
you,
so
I
I
recognize
that
costs
have
gone
up
a
significantly
and
are
is
any
of
this
reimbursable.
I
I
see
in
the
memo
that
it
it
might
be
eligible
for
reimbursement
under
the
state
touring
route
program,
so
currently
without
currently
how
much
of
this
is
reimbursable
and
how
much
do
we
hope
will
be
reimbursed
if
that
grant
is
successful?.
Z
It's
not
a
grant.
Those
funds
are
actually
an
allocation
to
the
city.
This
touring
route
money
is
very
much
like
our
annual
chips.
Allotment
there's
a
minor
difference
in
what's
eligible,
but
it
can
basically
pay
for
any
road
construction
related
costs
so
that
1.85
million
dollars
was
fully
reimbursable
through
the
touring
routes
program.
AA
Again
I'll
read
the
results
resolve
the
common
council
here
by
a
men's
capital
project
733
by
400
000
for
the
project,
bringing
the
total
authorization
to
three
million
seven
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
seven
hundred
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
funds
needed
for
said,
amendment
shall
be
derived
from
issuance
of
serial
bonds
and
be
further
resolved.
Common
council
hereby
authorizes
the
superintendent
of
public
works
to
award
next
contracts
with
the
lowest
with
with
the
low
bidders
for
the
cast
park,
rink
enclosure
project.
AA
B
B
H
Yeah,
this
is
the
home
stretch
on
this
project
and
it
came
in
a
little
well,
not
a
little.
It
came
in
over
what
we
budgeted,
because
construction
costs
have
gone
up
the
electrical
aspect
of
the
dehumidifying
we
wanted
to
have
as
part
of
the
green
new
deal
type
of
thing,
and
this
is
a
great
project.
H
B
AA
Thank
you.
4.3
is
supportive
state
legislation
to
allow
the
reduction
of
the
city-wide
default.
Speed
limit
from
30
miles
per
hour
to
20
miles
per
hour,
therefore
be
resolved
by
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
ithaca
new
york.
That
section
one.
AA
The
city
of
ithaca,
hereby
expresses
its
support
for
assembly
bill
1007
and
senate
bill
2021
and
requests
that
its
state
representatives,
assembly,
member
anna
kellis
and
senator
tom
amara
support
this
legislation
and
ask
the
prime
sponsors
to
amend
the
bill
to
allow
reductions
to
20
miles
per
hour
and
that
our
representatives
do
all
their
power
to
advance
this
bill.
With
the
20
mile
per
hour,
amendment
in
the
new
york
state
legislature,
and
I
will
move
as
written.
AA
AA
I'll
just
note
again,
this
is
another
long-standing
sort
of
discussion
in
the
community.
I
think
two
things
I'd
like
to
flag
for,
for
colleagues
and
for
the
public.
We
are
expressing
support
of
this
bill
in
albany,
while
also
requesting
that
the
bill
lower
that
threshold
from
25
to
20..
AA
The
legislation
cited
in
this
resolution
currently
states
25,
and
the
intention
here
would
be
that
the
city
would
be
happy
to
adopt
25,
I
think
through
large
parts,
but
would
like
that
flexibility
for,
where
needed,
for
safety
reasons
to
lower
220
and
I'd,
also
just
remind
folks
that
this
at
present
this
is
this-
is
a
non-binding
right
support
resolution.
I
had
some
concern
from
the
community
about
us
changing
this
without
the
state.
We
are,
in
fact
expressing
support
of
that
state
legislation.
B
Thanks
rob
all
in
favor.
B
Okay,
great,
that
too
looks
unanimous,
and
this
is
another
one
of
those
topics
that
we
have
been
discussed
discussing
and
that
eric
hathaway
has
been
extremely
helpful
on
over
a
number
of
years
in
the
packet
you'll
see
eric
hathaway's
letter,
the
vision,
zero
initiative
from
january
2019,
so
this
this
is
really
great
to
to
pass
this
resolution
tonight.
Thank
you.
AA
I
will
now
move
4.4
and
hope.
Colleagues
will
indulge
me.
This
has
been
a
a
topic
of
somewhat
important
conversation,
so
I
will
read
the
entire
resolution
for
for
public's
benefit
here.
This
is
dpw.
Authorization
of
hazard
mitigation
grant
program
application,
whereas
the
new
york
state
division
of
homeland
security
and
emergency
services
has
announced
the
availability
of
federal
emergency
management
agency.
AA
And
whereas
the
proposed
mitigation
measures
will
increase
flow
capacity
for
fall.
Cascadilla
and
six
mile
creeks
prevent
backflow
related
flooding
through
the
storm
system,
reduce
flood
risk
for
large
portions
of
the
city
and
reduce
the
flood
zones
shown
on
the
proposed
fema
maps.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
ithaca
is
hereby
authorized
and
directed
to
submit
an
application
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
hazard
mitigation
grant
program.
AA
Serial
bond
financing
to
be
administered
by
the
superintendent
of
public
works
and
be
further
resolved
that
the
event
that,
in
the
event,
the
full
federal
and
non-federal
share
costs
of
the
project
exceed
the
amount
appropriated
above
the
city
of
ithaca
common
council
shall
convene
as
soon
as
possible
to
appropriate
said.
Excess
amount
immediately
upon
the
notification
by
the
n
y
s
d.
AA
H
s
e
s
thereof
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
ithaca
be
and
is
hereby
authorized
to
execute
all
necessary
agreements,
and
the
superintendent
of
public
works
is
hereby
authorized
to
execute
all
certifications
or
reimbursement
requests
for
funding.
On
behalf
of
the
city
of
ithaca
in
connection
with
the
advancement
or
approval
of
the
project
and
providing
for
the
administration
of
the
project
and
the
municipality's
first
instance.
AA
B
See
that
mike
is
here
at
a
discussion.
B
B
H
Thanks
laura
mike,
I
was
at
the
county
ledge
last
night
and
they
wanted
more
specific
information
about
what
types
of
projects
this
would
include
on
the
creeks.
AE
Sure
so,
when
we
did
the
local
flood
hazard
analysis,
we
had
the
usgs
prepare
flood
models
for
us
and
then
bartman
legitis
came
up
with
various
mitigation
options
and
those
auctions
still
need
to
be
developed
a
little
bit
and
that
will
be
part
of
this
grant.
AE
When
fema
came
out
with
their
maps,
their
maps
were
very
close
and
they
used
the
same
technique
that
the
usgs
used,
and
so
we
believe
that
the
mitigation
measures
that
barton
and
legitis
proposed
will
still
hold
true
with
fema
maps
when
we
do
the
grants
or
when
we
get
into
design
work
and
final
analysis.
AE
Fema
said
that
we
that
they
will
share
their
flood
model
with
us
so
that
we
can
base
our
design
on
on
their
actual
flood
model
that
they're
using,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
one
that
we
did.
But
what
this?
What
barton
legitus
came
up
with
was
that
we
need
to
increase
capacity
along
six
mile,
creek
and
well
actually
six
mile
cascadilla
and
fall
creeks,
and
to
do
that.
AE
We
do
plan
to
work
with
a
landscape
architect
so
that
we
don't
put
ugly
walls
up
next
to
our
beautiful
creeks.
So
we
can
do
something
that
has
some
sort
of
aesthetic
design
with
it
as
well,
but
also
be
functional
on
fall.
Creek,
the
the
levees
that
are
there
next
to
the
high
school
and
in
the
fall
creek
area,
they're,
probably
the
right
height,
but
they
are
showing
signs
of
erosion.
And
so
we
do
want
to
include
armoring
those
levees
and
make
sure
that
they
can
handle
larger
flows
in
the
future.
AE
AE
To
eliminate
most
of
the
flood
risk
the
grant
that
we're
shooting
for
right
now
with
the
flood
walls
and
backflow
presenters
that
will
take
care
of
most
of
the
city.
It
will
alleviate
most
of
the
flooding
in
the
city,
but
not
all
of
it,
and
so
the
second
piece
is
the
dredging
project
that
the
dec
is
still
working
on
and
right
now
the
dec
is
they're,
projecting
2023,
dredging
I'll,
believe
it.
AE
When
I
see
it,
but
I
think
that
the
project
that
we're
proposing
and
the
dec
dredging
project
will
probably
happen
at
approximately
the
same
time.
And
so
what
we're
hoping
is
that,
with
both
projects
in
place,
we
can
quickly
get
fema
to
revise
their
club
maps.
AE
B
Mike,
if
I
could
ask
a
question
the
what
I'm
hearing
from
a
number
of
residents
has
to
do
with
the
anticipated
significant
increase
in
flood
insurance,
if
these
maps
proposed
maps
are
finalized
and
include
a
far
greater
area,
all
of
of
the
flats,
for
example,
can
you
say
something
about
the
impact
these
mitigation
efforts
may
have
on
flood
insurance.
AE
Well,
it's
a
it's
a
good
question
and
so
we've
been
talking
with
fema
about
their
timeline.
Excuse
me
and
fema
plans
on
turning
those
draft
flood
maps
into
the
regulatory
maps
in
january
of
2024.
AE
We
hope
to
be
in
final
design
for
these
flood
mitigation
measures
and
hopefully
we'll
also
have
dredge
underway
in
2024.,
we've
been
asking
fema
if
they'll
hold
off
on
issuing
the
flood
maps
so
that
they
don't
become
effective
until
after
we
do
our
mitigation
measures,
and
we
would
immediately
turn
in
what's
called
a
letter
of
map
revision
which
would
reduce
the
flood
maps
in
a
sense
essentially
show
that
the
flood
risk
has
been
mitigated
in
ithaca,
and
this
is
this
is
flood
risk
from
the
creeks.
AE
We
have
some
nuisance
flooding
throughout
the
city.
This
does
not
address
that,
but
this
just
this
just
addresses
the
major
flooding
from
the
creeks
that
flow
through.
So
fema
is
chewing
on
that
idea.
A
little
bit,
I
think.
If
we
were
able
to
win
a
grant,
we
might
have
a
stronger
case
to
push
fema
to
hold
off
on
those
on
issuing
those
maps.
That's
what
we're
hoping
but
no
promises.
AE
So
in
the
meantime,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
do
the
right
thing,
mitigate
the
flood
risk
in
the
city
and
then
the
rest
is,
is
gonna,
be
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
for
fema.
I'm
sure.
B
Thanks
mike
duckson,
did
you
have
a
question.
AB
Excuse
me
yeah
mike
so.
AB
People
seem
to
really
want
dredging,
but
when
I
remember
from
the
the
2019
public
meeting
on
the
the
flood
hazard
study,
someone
brought
up,
it
might
mean
you,
or
maybe
the
consultant-
that
in
terms
of
cost
effectiveness
is
actually
these
other
measures
like
raising
burma
heights
sediment
traps,
etcetera
that
you
know
are
more
cost
effective
and
you
have
thoughts
on
that.
Do
you
still,
nonetheless
see
a
role
for
dredging
six
mile
and
cascadilla?
AB
AE
Yeah,
I
do
so
we
when
we
were
doing
the
flood
hazard
analysis
and
we
were
looking
at
increasing
the
capacity
in
the
creeks
we
did.
We
did
discuss
this
with
the
usgs
and
also
with
barton
judas.
AE
We
also
had
one
of
the
hydraulics
professors
from
cornell
university
in
on
that
he
was
in
our
group.
AE
We
could
dredge
six
mile
creek,
because
I
know
the
areas
that
you're
talking
about
ducks
and
the
problem
is,
is
that
the
creeks
will
tend
to
stabilize.
They
want
to
be
at
a
certain
elevation
and
so
we'll
constantly
be
dredging.
Those.
AE
What
happens
is
the
creeks
will
will
generally
sort
of
get
to
that
level
that
they
naturally
want
to
be
at,
and
so,
if
we
dredge
they'll
fill
back
up
again
it,
but
they
won't,
they
shouldn't
fill
up
more
than
they
are
right
now,
in
fact,
what
the
usgs
said
that
we
should
do
in
the
creek.
There
is
just
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
brush
down,
because
that
that,
in
effect,
is
more
effective
than
doing
the
dredging
work,
and
certainly
a
lot
simpler
to
do
that.
B
I
Thank
you.
So
I
I'm
looking
back
at
the
report
that
is
dated
to
december
2018..
It's
hard
to
believe.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
four
years,
and
I
know
at
that
time
it
was
recommended
to
do
these
berms
and
then
backflow
preventers.
That
was
estimated.
The
berms
would
be
between
two
and
six
feet
in
height
depending
on
the
area.
Obviously,
and
so
I
visually
am
imagining
fall
creek,
I'm
imagining
cascadilla
raising
the
berms
in
cascadilla
creek,
I'm
imagining
six
mile
creek
raising
the
berms.
I
If
I
imagine
six
feet,
it
basically
means
you
won't
see
across
the
creek
into
the
creek
or
or
into
the
neighborhoods
behind.
I
Should
I
also
be
imagining
berms
along
the
flood
control
channel
because
obviously
we're
considering
not
only
water,
that's
coming
through
the
creeks,
but
water.
That's
coming
back
from
the
lake.
I
AE
So,
first
of
all,
let
me
I
forgot
to
answer
one
question
that
duckson
had
on
the
dredging.
The
cost
benefit
analysis.
I
just
want
to
address
that
really
quickly.
The
the
improvements
that
we're
looking
for
on
this
grant
have
a
have:
a
high
benefit
cost
ratio.
AE
Fema
generally
looks
for
something
that's
greater
than
one
barton
and
legitus
is
working
on
a
revised
one.
We
think
it's
going
to
be
over
two,
which
puts
us
in
a
good
which
puts
us
in
good
shape,
to
win
a
grant.
The
dredging
in
the
flood
control
channel,
which
is
a
dec
project,
has
a
benefit
cost
ratio
less
than
one
just
for
perspective,
but
the
state
is
funding
that
and
they're
they're
in
charge
of
that.
So
sorry,
I
didn't
answer
that.
AE
Cynthia,
the
the
final
local
flood
hazard
analysis
report
was
the
final
date
on
it
was
february
2020
and
it's
on
the
website,
and
it
goes
through.
It
goes
through
all
the
recommendations.
What
the
flood
risk
is.
AE
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
in
the
appendix
we
also
had
the
powerpoint
presentation
that
we
gave
to
the
public
and
there's
a
lot
of
good
graphics
in
that,
and
one
of
the
graphics
is
that
it
shows
along
the
creeks
approximately
how
high
and
in
what
locations
we
would
have
to
raise
the
berm
height
or
the
creek
walls,
and
so
off
the
top
of
my
head.
We
fall
creek
probably
could
get
by
without
raising
anything.
AE
We
certainly
want
to
make
those
levees
more
robust,
take
care
of
those
erosion
issues,
but
on
fall,
creek,
probably
not
a
big
change
there.
We
do
get
quite
a
bit
of
back
flow
on
fall,
creek,
so
we'll
do
the
work
with
the
back
float.
AE
AE
That's
aesthetically,
pleasing
to
the
neighborhood
six
mile
creek,
the
areas
that
are
of
highest
concern
are
just
west
or
just
downstream
of
the
street
bridge,
and
I
think
some
of
the
wall
heights
in
those
locations
are
in
the
four
they
might
even
get
up
to
six
feet
in
some
locations.
AE
Lot
of
the
high
walls
on
six
mile
creek
would
be
down
kind
of
behind
caillou
lumber
places
there.
AE
You
know
the
public
doesn't
really
see
that
much
so
anyway,
yeah
we
certainly
have
some
design
work
to
do,
and
you
know
we'll
get
input
from
the
community
and
from
planning
departments,
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
put
something
ugly
there
same
time.
C
B
Mike,
maybe
mike
maybe
you
mentioned
this,
but
I
I
sorry
if
I
overlooked,
but
given
the
interest
of
the
public
and
the
concerns
of
the
public,
particularly
around
and
developers,
I
have
to
say
too
about
cost.
It
would
be
good
at
some
think
about
at
what
point
it
would
make
sense
to
hold
another
public
meeting
and
have
the
barton
and
legitus
group
come
back.
Maybe
once
you
know,
decisions
on
some
of
these
grant
programs
would
be
a
good
time
to
do
that.
AE
Yeah
and
I
think
once
we
start
getting
into
design,
we
certainly
want
to
have
public
input
and
again
we
want.
We
want
something
that
looks
good
as
well
as
provide
the
functions
that
we
need
it
to
cynthia.
You
asked
about
the
flood
control
channel.
The
flood
control
channel
is
fine.
How
it
is.
It
does
need
to
be
dredged
both
the
usgs
and
fema
modeled,
the
flood
maps
based
on
the
100
year
high
lake
elevation,
which
we
think
is
a
little
bit
overly
conservative.
AE
AE
Rises
a
little
bit
as
you
get
into
the
neighborhoods.
The
lake
level
doesn't
have
that
much
effect.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
the
very
helpful
discussion
around
this,
are
we
ready
to
vote
now
on
this
resolution?
AA
Turning
now,
4.5
hangar,
theater
company
request
for
study
and
insurance
be
resolved
that
the
city
of
ithaca
fully
fund
an
engineering
study
to
assess
flood
mitigation
opportunities
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars,
with
the
funds
being
derived
from
capital
project.
AA
Eight,
seven,
five
assessment
of
cass
park
fields
and
buildings
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
hangar
theater
company
will
assist
in
raising
funds
for
flood
mitigation
efforts
revelated
by
their
engineering
study
and
will
make
decisions
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
ithaca
and
be
a
further
resolve
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
shall
add
the
cost
of
flood
insurance
currently
estimated
at
five
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
annually
to
the
hangar
theater
building
under
until
the
completion
of
the
study
to
determine
what
can
be
done
to
prevent
the
further
flooding
of
the
property
and
the
building
and
be
it
for
the
resolve.
AA
The
hangar
theater
company
respectfully
requests
the
following
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
one
fully
funds:
an
engineering
study
to
assess
flood
mitigation
opportunities,
two
carry
flood
insurance
on
the
hangar
building,
including
premium
and
deductible
three
support,
hangar,
theater
and
finding
a
new
location.
Should
the
results
of
the
engineering
study
indicate
that
continuing
to
use
the
building
as
a
theater
over
the
long
term
prove
unfeasible
infeasible.
AA
The
hangar
theater
will
one
work
with
the
city
to
raise
funds
for
a
feasible
flood
mitigation
efforts
revealed
by
the
engineering
study
and
make
decisions
in
partnership
with
the
city.
Two
continue
to
make
investments
in
the
building
to
minimize
damage
from
floods
and
take
the
lead
on
cleanup
and
reporting
to
insurance.
B
C
Laura
or
julie
rj
is
in
the
holdings
place.
I
think
she's
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
we
have.
B
I
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
this
come
to
council.
I
I
think
this
is
a
worthy
investment
to
investigate
flood
considerations
at
the
hangar.
B
Thank
you.
So
are
we
ready
to
vote
all
right
all
those
in
favor
of
4.5
resolution.
AA
Thanks
laura,
I
will
now
I
guess
it'll
be
4.6.
AA
Will
now
be.
I'm
gonna
insert
here
the
approval
of
recreation
partnership
agreement.
Remember
this
is
the
item
we
all
removed
from
consent
agenda.
AA
Whereas
the
undersigned
municipalities
enter
into
this
inter-municipal
shared
services,
agreement
for
a
five-year,
renewable
recreation
partnership
and
whereas
the
membership
of
the
recreation
partnership
includes
towns
of
caroline
danby,
dryden,
enfield,
groton,
ithaca,
newfield
and
ulysses,
including
truman,
berg,
school
district,
the
village
of
lansing
city
of
ithaca
and
tompkins
county,
whereas
this
agreement
shall
be
effective
upon
execution
by
each
and
every
part,
participating
municipality
and
shall
be
enforced
for
the
period
beginning
january,
1
23
through
december
31
27
and
may
be
renewed
for
an
additional
five
years
by
appropriate
resolutions
by
each
of
the
municipal
partners
on
or
before
december.
AA
The
city
of
ithaca
will
continue
its
membership
in
the
recreation
partnership
agreement
from
january
21,
I'm
sorry
january
1st,
23
to
december
31st
27
and
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
city
of
ithaca
will
continue
to
contribute
one
quarter
of
the
total
cost
of
the
recreation
partnership,
an
amount
that
is
determined
and
recommended
by
the
recreational
partnership
board
annually
to
participate
in
municipalities
and
be
it
further
resolved.
The
common
council
votes
to
approve
this
recreation
partnership
agreement
for
2023
to
2027
and
authorizes
acting
mayor
lewis
to
enter
into
the
contract.
Iso
move.
I
You
I
see
that
this
was
not
really
discussed
at
ca.
It
was
in
consent
nca.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
out.
I
I
definitely
in
my
time
as
chair
of
the
gyac
board
and
many
years
in
involvement
in
the
giac
board
have
come
to
recognize
that
an
increasing
number
of
the
participants
in
our
activities
at
giac,
including
recreational
after-school
activities,
are
of
non-city
residents
and
I
think
when
the
recreational
partnership
was
first
initiated,
it
had
mainly
looked
at
the
youth
bureau,
because
most
of
the
participants
at
giac
were
city
residents,
and
I
would
very
much
like
to
encourage
those
who
are
renegotiating
these
agreements,
as
they
are
reviewed
every
few
years
to
assess
and
include
giac
and
consider,
including
giac
in
this
partnership.
I
The
reason
that
the
partnership
was
created
in
the
first
place
is
because
so
many
participants
in
the
youth
bureau
are
non-city
residents
and,
of
course,
we
fund
the
youth
bureau
and
their
staffing,
and
we
subsidize
their
services
and
try
very
hard
to
keep
charges
low,
but
we
also
recognize
that
we're
providing
this
service
to
non-city
residents.
I
think
it's
time
to
include
giac
in
in
this
analysis
and
perhaps
reassess
the
recreation
partnership
to
to
support
the
services
that
we
fund
at
giac
for
non-city
residents.
I
So
could
you
who
is
on
the
negotiating
team?
Was
this
negotiated
or
is
it
just
an
automatic
renewal.
H
It's
not
automatic,
I
I
wrote
the
resolution
with
help
from
from
liz
at
the
youth
bureau.
The
recreation
partnership
is
is
an
excellent
partnership,
I'm
on
the
board
of
geck.
Now
I
I
could
be
mistaken,
but
I
haven't
heard
of
any
a
large
influx
of
non-city
residents
taking
advantage
of
gx
programs.
H
I
I
will
ask
leslie
about
that,
but
this
is
a
good
program.
I
There
was
a
an
exercise
that
was
done
and
they
actually
did
a
a
dot
map
where
they
showed
where
all
of
their
participants
lived,
and
I
was
quite
surprised
to
say
I
mean
I
maybe
it's
fair
to
say,
50
and
of
course
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
as
a
city
becomes
more
costly
to
live
in
many
families
with
young
children
are
moving
outside
of
the
city,
even
though
their
lives,
their
work,
their
school
might
be
in
the
city,
and
so
they
want
to
take
advantage
of
a
city
programs,
because
that's
where
the
kids
are
coming
out
of
school.
I
So
you
know
keeping
in
mind
that
change
in
demographic.
I
think
it
would
be
very
useful
to
reassess
and
actually
ask
these
questions
and
should
giac
be
included
in
the
recreation
partnership.
B
Thank
you
rob
g.
I
see
your
hand
up.
AI
Yeah,
I
I
am
no
longer
on
the
liaison
to
the
recreation
partnership,
but
I
was
for
the
last
two
years
and
I
I
saw
liz
was
here,
but
maybe
she's
not
with
us
at
the
moment.
AI
AI
But
I
think
this
is
more
of
a
coordination
that
should
be
happening
between
the
youth
bureau
and
giac,
rather
than
putting
some
pressure
on
the
recreation
partnership
but
cynthia.
It's
a
good
point,
and
I
think
we
have
asked
this
question
in
the
past
of
of
giac.
So
it
would
be
good-
maybe
to
get
some
numbers
about
that.
But
I
wouldn't
want
that
to
hold
up
the
this
excellent
partnership
that,
as
george
noted,
has
been
going
on
for
a
while.
I
I
B
This
was
something
before
the
city
administration
committee.
We
should.
If
we
want
to
have
a
discussion
on
this,
we
should
certainly
have
giac
president,
but
is
anyone
proposing
rob
gerhart.
AI
If,
in
the
future,
even
during
the
next
four
years
of
this
agreement
that
somehow
gx
programming
got
infused
into
the
offerings
of
the
city,
it
might
have
an
impact
on
the
contribution
from
the
different
municipalities.
In
other
words,
I
think
the
execution
of
this
agreement
may
not
get
in
the
way
of
that,
but
perhaps
somebody
like
ari
or
somebody
else
has
been
on
the
rec
partnership
might
know
that.
H
B
B
Thank
you.
Did
you
want
to
move
on
to
well?
Which
resolution
did
you
want
to
move
on
to
next
robert.
AA
I
am
in
fact
going
to
move
on
to
the
other
item
moved
out
of
consent
agenda,
which
will,
I
guess
now
be
4.7.
AA
And
that
is
the
release
of
south
side
community
center
fund
2022
budget,
whereas
the
common
council
included
within
the
2022
budget
funding
in
restricted
contingency
200
000
for
southside
community
center,
which
has
previously
been
funded
by
the
city.
Now,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
That
said,
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
south
side
community
funding
be
released
from
the
restricted
contingency
account
after
execution
of
an
mou
substantially
similar
to
the
previous
city,
south
side
mou,
I
will
move
as
written.
AA
And
I'll
just
know,
as
we
begin
discussion
here,
cynthia,
I'm
sure
you
have
a
question
since
it
was
your
request
to
move
this,
but
that
I
we
did
discuss
this
process
and
ca
this
month
and
there
was
unanimity
that
there
was
no
further
information
needed
us,
provided
that
the
requisite
materials
that
are
regularly
provided
were
given
to
steve's
office.
So
I
would
turn
I
guess
to
him.
First,
with
an
update
on
that.
AD
Yeah
robert,
that's
correct,
that's
what
went
through
the
committee
process.
I
know.
Council
did
in
fact
put
this
into
a
restricted
contingency
back
back
in
october
when
we
spoke
about
this,
because
there
were
some
concerns
at
that
time
on.
You
know
where
the
funding
was
going
to.
AD
I
can
tell
you
that
I
just
received
today
the
annual
report
from
last
year,
so
that
I'll
be
looking
at
that
and
reviewing
that
to
make
sure
that,
because
we
still
owe
the
fourth
quarter
payment
to
southside
for
2021
and
that's
based
on
last
year's
activity-
that
in
fact,
then
we
would,
if,
if
this
money
is
released,
I
would
be
asking
for
the
2022
activity
on
a
quarterly
basis.
As
we
have
been
over
the
past
several
years
in
which
southside
then
sends
the
information
to
me.
AD
We
review
the
information,
the
financial
activity
for
sell
side
and
then
determine
if
payment
is
necessary
and
applicable,
and
in
just
about
every
case
we
have
made
that
payment.
So
certainly
if
council
wants
to
go
a
different
direction,
that's
fine!
We
did
try
to
include
this
in
the
other,
the
other
review
from
the
human
services
coalition,
but
that
for
this
year,
kind
of
fell
through,
but
we
will
be
looking
for
different
different
review
processes
for
2023.
I
L
AA
We
will
resume
our
regularly
scheduled
ca
programming
with
what
is
now
4.8
mouse
for
outside
organizations
funded
in
2022
budget,
whereas
common
council
included
within
the
2022
budget
funding
and
restricted
contingency
for
two
new
non-profits
to
which
the
city
had
not
previously
directed
funding,
and
whereas
common
council
asked
for
all
new
nonprofits
to
fill
out
a
form
to
be
turned
into
the
controller
no
later
than
april.
AA
15
2022
now,
therefore
be
resolved
that
such
funding
as
council
budgeted
and
restricted
contingency
for
potential
expenditure
on
services
to
be
rendered
by
black
hands
universal
bhu
and
unbroken
promises
initiative.
Upi
shall
be
processed
by
the
common
council
through
satisfactory
review
and
approval
of
the
mo.
AA
I
am
going
to
clarify
this
is
actually
an
error
in
the
agent,
so
the
the
final
resolved
I'm
going
to
keep
watching
ari's
head
nodding
because
it
says
it
says,
resolve
that
upon
council
approval.
That
is
not
what
we
passed
out
of
committee.
We
passed.
W
So
I
think
I
think
what
we
passed
is
in
that
second
line
of
that
resolve
the
attorney's
office
shall
prepare
for
mayor,
and
that
was
supposed
to.
I
believe
that
was
changed
by
the
committee
to
mayor's
approval.
AA
AA
Want
to
come
out
again
to
reiterate
that
last
resolved
is
resolved,
that
upon
council
approval
of
the
program
reviews,
the
attorney's
office
shall
prepare
for
the
mayor's
approval,
separate
mousse
for
bhu
and
upi,
and
then
the
rest
is
written.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
repeating.
Is
there
a
second
on
the
revised
jorge?
Thank
you,
discussion.
AA
And
I
would
just
note
that
for
colleagues
who
are
not
on
ca,
what
the
intention
here
was
to
avoid
these
organizations
needing
to
wait
for
three
separate
common
council
meetings
for
this
funding
to
be
released.
AA
The
way
we
structured.
This
was
again
we'll
we'll
be
voting
on
this
tonight.
Presuming
it
moves
forward
faith
and
I
and
steve
have
been
working
on
the
draft
questions
which
will
be
circulated.
Faith
soon,.
AA
But
we
just
we,
you
know
we,
the
committee,
speaking
with
faith
and
ari
kind
of
concluded,
that
this
way
we
still
have
the
sort
of
oversight
process
for
new
organizations
that
previous
council
had
apparently
wanted
in
the
budget
process,
while
also
again
avoiding
this
dragging
out
into
a
third
month.
Just
by
virtue
of
the
final
approvals,
and
I'm
sure
ari
can
more
eloquently
speak
to
what
I
attempted
to
just
put
into
layperson's
terms.
I
don't.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
that
looks
like
a
unanimous
vote.
We
are
approaching
that
witching
hour
when
we
will
have
to
make
a
motion
to
extend
and
I'm
wondering
do
we
want
to
do
that
before
steve's
report.
B
Okay,
rob
robert.
AA
I
will
move
that
we
we
extend
for
one
hour.
AA
AA
Other
items
in
executive
george
that
we're
gonna
have
to
get.
B
And
okay,
so
cynthia,
you
seconded
all
those
in
favor
of
extending
for
one
hour.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
What
are
people's
preferences?
Would
you
like
to
take?
Would
you
like
to
hear
from
steve
now
and
then
take
a
10
minute
break,
or
would
you
like
to
take
a
10
minute
break
now.
AD
Okay,
I'll
be
quick
in
case
people
need
to
get
to
their
break,
so
we
are
waiting
for
final
new
york
state
budget,
which
you
probably
all
know
is
a
little
overdue.
So
hopefully
we
get
that
information
soon.
Once
we
get
details
I'll,
let
you
know,
but
for
the
most
part
you
know
our
our
funding
seems
to
be
maintained
that
we
currently
receive,
and
hopefully
additional
funding
will
be
available.
I
know
there
was
some
push
to
add
a
cola
adjustment
to
the
general
state
aid.
AD
Hopefully
that
occurs,
but
I'm
not
going
to
hold
my
breath
there
on
2022
item
sales
tax
I'll
just
say
that
we
are
up
11.6
percent
for
if
you're
comparing
same
time
periods
to
2021.
So
that's
great
news
parking
revenues
continue
to
be
slow
in
collections.
We
have
collected
365
dollars
to
date.
I
will
say
that
in
the
next
couple
of
months
the
green
garage
project
will
come
online,
so
that
will
start
to
feed
into
our
collections
for
parking
revenue,
so
that
will
be
good
building
permanent
revenues.
AD
Of
course
we
didn't
inc.
The
budget
actually
reflects
a
higher
anticipated
construction
activity
inside
the
city
we
budgeted
at
two
million
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
twenty
two
we
have
collected
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
this
revenue
account
to
date,
but
it's
early
in
the
process,
so
we'll
we'll
hope
that
once
construction
season
ramps
up.
E
AD
You
know
some
items,
such
as
reduced
project
costs
or
project
delays
that
we
saw
in
our
lack
of
collections
in
21
will
not
find
their
way
to
our
collections
this
year.
So
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
happens
with
those
projects,
I
should
say:
site
development
fees.
We
budgeted
at
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
22..
We
have
collected
137
000,
so
we're
off
to
a
good
start
with
those
fees
and
just
to
note,
you
all
know
that
we've
seen
quite
a
spike
in
inflation.
AD
The
cpi
is
running
after
a
couple
months
at
7.7
percent,
very,
very
high,
and
we
haven't
seen
this
high
of
cpi
since
2008
one
hand
is
good
for
the
cornell
mou
payments,
which
is
driven
by
the
cpi.
So
that
means
that
would
be
a
higher
a
higher
contribution
from
cornell
university
as
a
result,
but
really
what
it
means
for
the
city
is
higher
operating
costs
for
our
operations,
we're
seeing
that
you
know
higher
costs
to
consumers
and
higher
costs
in
our
operations.
AD
We
look
across
the
board
and
our
operations.
We
are
seeing
higher
costs
everywhere
so
from
from
bidding
to
fuel
to
to
material
costs.
Pretty
much
everything
we're
doing
these
days
is
is
much
more
expensive,
so
impacts
from
covid
certainly
will
continue
for
the
next
year.
So
with
that,
I
think
I'll
end
the
report
and
let
people
get
to
their
break
if
they
need
to.
H
Sorry
steve:
can
you
shed
any
light
on
this
southside
janitor
business.
AD
I
don't
know
that
that
I
can
probably
mike
and
dpw
staff
is
is
would
have
more
details.
I
can.
C
AD
You
that
I
know
that,
because
of
short
staff
over
dpw
crews,
that
they've
had
to
pull
pull
pull
that
person
off
to
cover
other
areas
of
the
city
facilities,
so
that
might
have
something
to
do
with
the
problem
they're
seeing
there,
but
otherwise
I
can't
really
tell
you
too
much
in
detail
with
that
I'll
ask
mike
yeah.
I
think
mike
probably
could
give
you
more
details
than
I
could
all
right.
Thanks.
B
Thanks
for
raising
that
question,
george
good
follow-up
from
an
earlier
comment-
and
I
know
that
phoebe
raised
it
at
our
last
meeting,
so
thank
you
for
following
up
okay,
it
is
10
57.
Can
we
agree
to
a
10
minute
break
and
then
reconvene
great?
Thank
you.
Q
AK
AF
For
for
robert
and
for
matt
butler,
I'm
sorry
you're
still
watching.
I
am
not
married,
but
I
have
a
lovely
girlfriend
who
means
the
world
to
me,
but
this
is
actually
a
ring
of
all
of
the
different
musical
keys.
So
I
played
jazz
growing
up
and
I
was
very
bad
at
memorizing
how
to
track
whose
instruments
were
tuned,
which
ways-
and
I
played
trumpet
so,
like
you
know-
have
a
e-flat,
sax
or
b-flat
trumpet.
AF
B
B
B
The
first
part
of
this
resolution
is
declaring
lead
agency
resolved
that
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
ithaca
does
hereby
declare
itself
lead
agency
for
the
environmental
review
of
the
proposal
to
amend
chapter
258
of
the
city
of
ithaca
municipal
code
entitled
rental
housing
regarding
notification
of
tenants,
and
I
so
move.
Is
there
a
second
cynthia?
B
Thank
you
and
any
is
let's
vote
on
this.
The
discussion
will
come
when
we're
actually
looking
at
the
the
ordinance,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
declaration
of
lead
agency.
B
Thank
you,
and
then
the
next
is
a
declaration
of
environmental
significance
resolved
that
common
council
declares
itself
lead
agency
in
this
matter,
hereby
determines
that
the
proposed
action
at
issue
will
not
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment
and
that
further
environmental
reviews
is
unnecessary.
B
Be
it
for
the
resolve
that
this
resolution
constitutes
notice
of
this
neg
deck
and
that
the
city
clerk
is
hereby
directed
to
file
a
copy
of
the
same
together
with
any
attachments
in
the
city
clerk's
office
and
forward
the
same
to
any
other
parties,
as
required
by
law,
and
I
so
move.
Is
there
a
second.
B
B
B
This
is
the
actual
ordinance
a
couple
of
I
think
just
typo
corrections
in
this.
So
I
will
read
it,
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
has
a
substantial
renter
population
with
74
of
ithaca's
32
108
residents,
renting
and
whereas,
by
providing
a
120
day
waiting
period
before
receiving
an
opportunity
to
renew
a
lease,
a
tenant
will
have
had
ample
an
appropriate
time
to
decide
on
whether
to
negotiate
to
renew,
as
well
as
landlords
will
have
more
opportunity
to
rent
to
tenants
attending
cornell
university.
B
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
section
258
of
the
city's
municipal
code
is
hereby
amended
as
follows.
B
The
renewal
of
rental
agreements
notification
to
tenants
the
landlord
shall
provide
a
minimum
of
120
days,
written
notice
to
current
tenants
before
any
of
the
following.
Renewing
the
current
rental
agreement
or
showing
the
residential
unit
to
prospective
new
tenants
or
otherwise
suggesting
prospective
tenants
that
the
unit
is
currently
available
for
rent
three
entering
into
a
rental
agreement
with
new
tenants
such
written
notice-
and
it
goes
on
the
current
rental
agreement
period-
is
less
than
nine
months.
B
A
summons
and
complaint
to
recover
possession
of
the
premises
has
been
filed
and
served
on
the
current
tenant
in
accordance
with
all
applicable
applicable
laws
and
rules
and
three,
the
landlord
and
tenant
mutually
agree
in
writing
to
waive
the
notice
period
by
specifically,
including
the
following
language,
bolded
and
explicitly
visible
on
the
first
page
of
the
contract,
and
that
bolding
will
include
as
per
chapter
258-10a
of
the
city
of
ithaca
municipal
code.
B
Landlords
shall
provide
a
minimum
120
days,
written
notice
to
current
tenants
of
a
residential
unit
before
doing
any
of
the
following
one:
renewing
the
current
rental
agreement,
two
showing
the
residential
unit
to
prospective
new
tenants
or
otherwise
suggesting
to
prospective
new
tenants
or
otherwise
suggesting
when
there's
a
duplicate
there,
suggesting
to
prospective
tenants
that
the
unit
avail
available
for
rent.
B
We
will
clean
up
that
language
for
any
redundancy
and
three
entering
into
a
rental
agreement
with
new
tenants
by
initialing.
Here,
and
this
is
the
significant
change.
So
it
really
confirms
that
someone
has
read
and
understood
at
least
read
by
initially
here.
I
fully
understand
and
willingly
waive
my
rights
to
120
days,
written
notice
in
advance
of
the
above,
and
this
ordinance
shall
take
effect
on
may
31
2022
after
publication
of
the
ordinance
pursuant
to
the
city
charter,
and
I
so
move
with
the
stated
corrections
of
language
and
and
typos
is.
AJ
Yes,
just
a
motion
to
amend
some
language
here
if
it's
amenable
to
folks,
I'm
concerned
about
the,
whereas
at
the
the
very
first,
whereas,
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
has
a
substantial
renter
population,
74
percent
of
I
think,
is
32
108
residents
renting
and
basically
my
issue
with
that
and
I've
discussed
it
with
some
members
here
is
that
that
is
a
static
figure
that
will
bear
fluctuations
and
changes
going
forward,
and
I
also
have
a
problem
with
having
that
stated
as
such.
AJ
I
I
think
that
there's
been
some
misuse
of
that
those
numbers,
because
they
haven't
been
parsed
in
meaningful
ways
that
you
know
distinguish
what
that
says
about
ithaca
and
our
renter
community.
I
would
favor
language
and
I
have
a
proposal
for
that.
Let
me
just
bring
it
up
here,
something
on
the
order
of,
and
I
can
put
it
in
the
chat.
I'll
put
it
here.
AJ
I
go
through,
whereas
the
city
has
a
seasonal
housing
market
with
which
serves
a
sizable
student
and
transient
rental
population,
something
on
the
order
of
that
that
that
really
speaks
to
why
we
have
74
renting
in
the
city,
and
I
think
that
there
are
really
unique
features
of
the
city
that
contribute
to
that
to,
but
to
have
it
be
a
number
you
you
first
of
all,
that
number
doesn't
bear
the
test
of
time
and
and
will
need
constant
re-assessing,
and,
secondly,
it
I
I
think
it
lends
itself
to
misuse
and
rhetoric
and
then
just.
AJ
Lastly,
I
just
want
to
you
know,
applaud
the
process
here.
I've
been
watching
it
closely.
I
think
really
thoughtful
discussions
have
come
forth.
Patrick
has
labored
diligently
to
to
bring
this
to
the
the
moment
that
we're
at
right
now
so
certainly
want
to
lend
my
support
to
it.
AJ
But
that
is
a
problematic
feature
that
remains
and-
and
the
last
fact
to
consider
here
is
you
know
we
did
hit
a
constitutional
limit
in
this
discussion
that
was
significant
to
know
and
and
I'm
happy
to
see
that
the
waiver
has
been
restored.
AJ
Join
me
in
pursuing
this
change
here.
B
So
is
there
a
a
second
on
jeffrey's
motion.
AA
So
point
of
order.
B
B
Yeah
yeah
is
so
is
this
a
friendly
amendment
to
I
will
say
to
patrick
who
drafted
the
language
and
seconded
the
the
resolution.
AF
Yeah,
I
I'm
not
opposed
to
changing
that,
whereas
you
know
I
think
the
the
resolved
and
the
parts
that
are
changing,
I
think,
is
what
matters
so
I
I
have
no
issue
switching
to.
Let
me
get
that
except
for
that
jeff
put
in
the
chat
yeah,
whereas
the
city
is
a
seasonal
housing
market
and
serves
a
sizeable
student
transit
rental
population.
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
AA
I
I
I
don't
mean
to
jump.
I
just
I
I
would
say
I'd
like
to
strike.
Maybe
the
transient
piece,
I
I
you
know
you
can
have
rental
populations
where
someone
lives
in
the
community,
their
whole
life
in
rents
and-
and
I
I
sort
of
I
don't
like
the
for
the
same
reason-
jeff-
that
you
have
an
issue
with
the
static.
AA
I
I
have
an
issue
with
the
idea
that
suggesting
you
know
renters
are
any
less
part
of
our
community
than
than
homeowners,
but,
like
I
get
the
I
get
the
issue
about
like
this,
the
rental
piece
I
just
the
transient
piece
that
particular
word
I
I
would
push
back
on
a
little
bit.
B
Would
it
be
advisable,
and
perhaps
more
inclusive
and
yet
general
to
change
that,
whereas
by
removing
the
numbers
and
leaving
it
at
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
has
a
substantial
renter
population.
AJ
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
both
rob's
point
and
laura's
point
I
mean
I,
I
think
my
main
issue
is
having
the
numbers
in
there.
I
think
it's
interesting
to
cat.
You
know
to
to
describe
the
market
a
bit
more,
that
necessitated
this
change
and
and
really
makes
it
meaningful
to
the
community.
I
think
that
word
transient
is
interesting,
because
it
that's
part
of
why
it
probably
is
a
higher
percentage
of
rental
population.
You
know
if
you've
got
people
moving
in
moving
out
not
committing
to
place
on
a
large
scale.
AJ
That
is
a
factor
of
being
in
university
town.
I
think
that
that
has
implications,
but
I'm
not
wedded
to
that
language.
Absolutely
well.
B
I
will
say
in
my
neighborhood:
there
are
renters
who
are
long-term
renters,
who
have
been
in
their
homes
for
for
many
years,
so
I
I
too
would
take
issue
with
that
term
transient
and
I
I
guess,
would
just
prefer
that
we
I
I
take
your
point
about
that,
being
a
static
figure,
so
just
remove
the
figure
and
state
which
I
believe
is
a
current
fact
and
will
continue
to
be
a
fact
that
ithaca
has
a
substantial
renter
population.
H
I,
like
I,
like
laura's
version
personally,
that's.
J
You're
more
than
fine,
it
wasn't
related
to
this
specific
point
but
yeah
like
I,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
bill.
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea
for
all
involved
parties.
I
just
had
a
question.
J
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question
for
for
any
patrick,
have
you
I
know
you've
been
drafting
this
or
ahri
another
question
of
sort
of
enforceability
about
what
this
looks
like
if,
in
a
situation
where
you
know
a
landlord
just
you
know,
I
know
we're
dealing
right
now
with
a
situation
where
there's
a
small
business.
J
We
talked
about
an
nca
of
just
not
following
the
law
in
terms
of
what
the
regulation
should
be
for
for
taxi
fares,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
like
what
the
what
the
free
course
is
in
terms
of
enforcement,
if
a
landlord
isn't
you
know,
following
through
on
on
adhering
to
like
the
the
least
renewal
noticed.
W
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
that
yeah.
The
the
reality
of
housing
law
enforcement,
which
speaks
directly
to
our
right
to
counsel
program.
W
Might
I
add
in
all
in
all
sorts
of
municipal
settings,
is
that
it
does
end
up
being
a
matter
for
landlord
tenant
relations
and
and
then
legal
proceedings,
so
to
the
extent
that
there
were
enforcement
proceedings,
the
enforcement
would
be
the
tenant
or
landlord
depending
who
was
acting,
bringing
in
action
in
city
forward
and
housing
court
to
to
work
through
those
issues
and,
while
I'm
speaking
I'll
just
very
briefly,
say
laura.
I
know
you
moved
this
as
read
not
written.
W
AF
I'll
just
quickly
add,
I
think
horates
to
your
question
is,
I
think
everybody
in
bbc
has
has
met
our
sample
tenants,
one
two
and
three,
and
what
does
that
proceeding?
Look
like
depending
on
who
does
what,
but
this
is
not
intended
to
be
an
outright
punishing
thing
on
like
june
first
of
this
year,
we're
gonna
be
like
right.
Who
has
it?
Doesn't
it's
something
we
intend
to
collaborate
with
all
the
major
medium
and
small
landlords
throughout
the
city
to
just
say:
hey.
AF
This
is
what's
here
now,
it's
surprisingly
easy
to
see
sample
contracts
across
everybody's
websites,
so
our
hope
is
to
not
be
judgmental
or
attacking
in
any
way,
but
to
say
hey,
this
is
updated
stuff,
please
include
it
and
if
not,
then
attendance,
one
two
and
three
will
become
a
reality.
J
Yeah,
that's
I
mean
I'm
glad
to
hear
about
that,
but
just
sort
of
this
follow-up,
so
will
it
be
like
well,
there
will
be
doing,
like
some
type
of
you
know:
polyet
political
education
like
outreach
to
the
tenant,
broader
tenant
community,
because
I
know
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
amongst
tenants
and
landlords
about
like
what
the
existing
housing
law
is.
And
so,
if
are
we
going
to
be
like
doing
conversations
about?
So
this
is
what
it
looks
like
now.
J
You
know
because
council
obviously
can't
watch
everything
and
if
the
onus
is
going
to
fall
on
the
tennis
and
landlords
themselves,
I'm
just
wondering
if
council
is
taking
any
external
steps
towards
making
sure
that
we're.
You
know
folks
are
aware
about
this
new
addition
to
the
law,
especially
so
close
to
like
the
summer
season
and
whatnot.
AF
I
know
I
will
be
if
anybody
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
walk
with
me
from
college
up
to
eddie
and
back
and
start
going
street
by
street
trying
to
get
folks,
but
I'm
more
than
happy
to
work
with
anybody.
Everybody
about
you
know
like
you're,
saying
it's
intended
to
be
educational.
It's
not
intended
to
be
hammered
down
these.
The
new
change
is
supposed
to
be
here's.
What
we're
here's
what's
not
changed
and
we
like
to
have
folks
follow
that.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
thank
you
and
I
am
remiss
in
not
asking
if
and
pardon
me
for
not
following
procedure,
but
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
revise
that.
First,
whereas.
AF
C
AJ
I
was
hoping
that
just
so
that
I
I
understand
it
correctly.
I
was
curious
if
you
could
just
lend
a
little
light
onto
what
was
the
constitutional
dilemma
that
we
ran
into
with
the
waiver
and
and
how
was
that
resolved
in
this
bill?.
W
So
if
I
recall
correctly,
that
was
disgusting
executive
session
and
and
I
think
I
could
compromise
the
city's
intentions
and
abilities
to
discuss
that
in
the
setting.
B
Okay,
patrick,
did
you
have
another
comment
on
this.
AF
Yeah,
just
the
one
thing
I
I
didn't
want
to
add
and
sort
of
how
it's
like
you
know
I
apologize,
everybody
did
not
ask,
go
back
and
watch
six
months
with
the
pdc
meetings,
but
the
sort
of
short
of
this
evolution
with
the
constitutionality
question
was
we
agreed,
we
decided
to
keep
the
waiver
in,
but
this
new
language
we're
asking
to
be
put
into
the
contracts
is
meant
to
start
conversation
and
it
is
meant
for
people
to
you
know.
AF
I
look
at
my
own
contract
and
you
know
it's
line
20
on
the
fifth
page
or
whatever
that
just
says
like
I
wave
this
and
you
don't
think
twice
about
it.
The
intent
of
this
specific
ordinance
is
to
have
that
language
centered
and
to
at
least
have
people
start
talking
more
about
it
and
have
an
understanding
of
what
does
258-10
mean
to
everybody.
But
the
12
people
on
the
zoom
call.
B
I
Yes,
I
know
that
julie
is
going
to
clean
up
the
language
to
make
sure
that
the
items
one
through
one
two
three
are
basically
replicating
items,
one
two
three,
and
in
section
a
I
just
also
wanted
to
collect
the
typo
that
says
120
days,
written
notice
to
current
tenants
of
a
residential
unit
before
doing
any
of
the
following
and
make
sure
we
just
correct
that
too,
and
also
I'm
very
happy
to
see
this
amendment
and
these
changes.
I
It
was
long
overdue
and
it
took
a
lot
of
work
to
get
us
here
and
and
thank
patrick
for
for
steering
us
through
this
process.
I
think
we
have
a
really
good
final
product,
so
thank
you,
patrick
yeah,.
B
AI
Yeah
I'll
just
add
my
thanks
in
there
too,
but
I
also
wanted
to
note
this
is
for
jorge
and
and
patrick
and
also
for
the
city.
Well,
I
don't
want
to
absolve
the
city
of
the
responsibility
of
making
sure
our
citizens
know
about
this.
I
do
think
that
the
the
majority
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
it
are
college
students
both
at
cornell
and
perhaps
at
ithaca
college,
and
we
should
ensure
that
we
leverage
our
partnerships
there
and
make
sure
they
do
their
part
in
informing
their
communities
about
this.
B
Thank
you,
robert
did.
You
have
a
comment.
B
I
B
Thank
you
we're
now
up
to
individual
member
filed
resolutions,
and
I
will
read
the
first
rod.
Howe
commented
on
this
at
the
hours
ago,
at
the
outset
of
our
meeting
naming
of
bridge
for
kirby
edmunds.
B
And
whereas
this
bridge
is
geographically
located
on
the
border
of
the
city
of
ithaca
and
the
town
of
ithaca
and
is
an
integral
connector
to
the
gateway
trail
and
the
soon
to
be
extended?
Black
diamond
trail
and
whereas
kirby
edmunds
dedicated
himself
to
community
service
and
building
a
better
world
through
conflict
resolution
and
mediation,
dismantling
exclusive
practices
addressing
racism
and
bridging
differences?
B
His
assistance
in
distributing
news
and
information
regarding
local
relief
efforts
during
the
pandemic,
despite
his
own
declining
health,
was
yet
another
contribution
to
our
community.
Among,
among
many
other
initiatives,
he
aided
and
whereas
common
council
believes
that
the
naming
of
this
bridge
would
be
a
fitting
recognition
of
the
lifelong
work
and
dedication
kirby
offered
to
the
greater
ithaca
community.
B
B
AA
All
right,
this
is
a
commitment
to
the
stretch
to
zero
pilot
program,
whereas
the
city
of
ithaca
has
demonstrated
its
desire
and
commitment
to
be
a
leader
in
sustainability
and
social
equity,
as
exemplified
by
the
adoption
of
the
ithaca
green
new
deal
and
whereas,
in
2019,
the
state
of
new
york
signed
the
climate
leadership
and
community
protection
act
which
committed
new
york
state
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
40
by
2030
and
at
least
85
percent
by
2050.
AA
And
whereas
the
city
has
further
demonstrated
its
commitment
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
To
the
adoption
of
the
ithaca
energy
code.
Supplement
in
may,
2021,
eventually
requiring
new
constructions
and
major
renovations
to
stop
relying
on
fossil
fuels
to
meet
their
energy
needs.
And
whereas
the
city
continues
to
strengthen
its
energy
codes
and
further
develop
an
energy
performance
standard
applying
to
existing
commercial
and
residential
buildings.
And
whereas
the
city
has
further
demonstrated
its
commitment
to
reducing
greenhouse
gases
from
energy
use
inside
buildings.
By
approving
the
energy
efficiency
retrofit
and
thermal
load
electrification
program
in
november
2021.
AA
And
whereas
in
support
of
the
climate
act.
The
new
york
state,
energy,
research
and
development
authority
is
soliciting
funding
proposals
for
the
stretch
to
zero
pilot
program
for
cities
that
will
create
and
attest
workable
approaches
for
the
local
and
statewide
implementation
of
a
decarbonized
zero-on-site
greenhouse
gas
emission
code
and
whereas
the
stretch
to
zero
award
would
provide
half
a
million
dollars
to
the
city
in
exchange
for
formal
information
sharing
on
the
initiatives
and
associated
processes
related
to
electrification
and
the
ethic
agreement
deal
and
whereas
the
stretch
to
zero
award
would
require
no
matching
funds.
AA
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
authorizes
staff
to
apply
to
be
part
of
the
stretch
to
zero
program
managed
by
nyserda
to
develop
the
required
agreements
between
the
funder
and
the
city
and
to
share
information
about
decarbonization
and
electrification
processes
and
initiatives
with
nyserda,
including
financing
models
for
electrification
initiatives
and
programs
that
support
bypoc
and
low
to
moderate
income
residents
in
the
transition
to
a
decarbonized
economy.
Data
collection
management
and
workflow
expectations
for
electrification
of
commercial
and
residential
buildings.
AA
Workforce
development
models,
including
recruitment,
certifications,
micro,
credentialing,
training,
job
placement
and
wrap
around
infrastructure
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
planning
and
development
department
will
be
responsible
of
communicating
and
reporting
to
nyserda's
stretch
to
zero
pilot
program.
Iso
move.
B
AA
I'll
just
note
for
colleagues
that
the
reason
this
is
a
member
filed
resolution
is
in
part
because
of
grant
deadlines,
which
I
certainly
sympathize
with.
I
Well,
thank
you
to
louise
and
rebecca
for
and
also
to
robert
for
bringing
this
forward.
It
sounds
like
basically
it's
just.
We
get
some
money
for
sharing
information
on
the
things
that
we're
doing
anyway.
I
Is
that
correct,
or
is
there
there's
nothing
new?
That's
going
to
be
added
onto
our
workload,
except
for
reporting
out
of
information
that
we're
gathering
is
that
correct.
AK
Yeah,
that's
correct.
You
know
it
pays
to
be
first
in
this
case
anyway,.
AK
The
the
money
is
supposed
to
go
towards
achieving
the
the
goal
of
reducing
emissions
100
inside
buildings,
so
there
are
a
number
of
actions
that
would
qualify
for
that,
but
one
of
them,
the
most
important
one,
is
to
develop
a
building
performance
standard,
which
is
an
energy
supplement.
Energy
code
supplement
for
existing
buildings.
AK
So
we
would
start
working
on
that
and
that
would
allow
us
to
probably
hire
some
consultants,
some
experts
at
the
national
level
that
will
help
us
develop
the
the
code
in
a
way
that
you
know
it's
fair
on
one
hand,
but
on
the
other
you
know
also
achievable.
So
that's
just
an
example.
AK
No,
that
was
an
example.
There
are
many
activities
that
qualify
at
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
what
nyserda
is
recognizing
with
this
pilot
program
is
that
new
buildings
is
the
easy
part.
Existing
buildings
is
a
really
hard
one,
especially
in
upstate
new
york,
when
you
have
buildings
that
are
150
years
old.
So
in
recognition
of
that
they
want
to
have
a
pilot
program,
and
this
pilot
has
some
parameters,
but
it's
open
enough,
because
nobody
knows
nobody
has
made
it
that
far.
AK
You
know
we
are
striving
to
be
the
first
city
in
the
country
to
do
that,
and
there
are
you
know,
a
couple
of
other
places
that
make
qualified
so
right
now
the
money
will
go
to
helping
us
out
to
make
it
happen.
An
example
would
be
developing
a
building
performance
standard,
but
it
could
be
to
hire
consultants,
it
could
be
to
you
know,
acquire
technology
or
or
software
to
help
us
monitor
that
the
emissions
are
being
reduced,
etc.
AL
No
that's
my
understanding
also
is
that,
as
long
as
it's
used
to
mitigate
greenhouse
gas
emissions
within
the
city's
building
stock,
that
it's
it's
basically
a
freebie,
so
yeah.
AA
And
maybe
luis,
we
could
just
circulate
the
like
the
rfp
for
colleagues,
and
I
can
help
interpret
that
just
in
terms
of
like
the
full
allowables.
AK
Yeah
yeah
sure,
yeah
and
and
once
again
what
what
robert
was
saying
is
that,
in
order
to
participate
in
the
program,
nyserd
is
asking
that
it's
not
just
you
know
the
crazy
dudes
in
sustainability
pushing
this,
but
you
know
there
is,
you
know,
support
from
the
city
that
this
is
a
you
know
something
the
city
is
trying
to
do
so.
The
reason
for
the
resolution
is
that
way.
Common
council
will
show
support
for
the
sustainability
team
and
then
we'll
apply
tonight
serda
with
your
support,
and
then
you
know
things
get
going.
AL
AK
B
Yeah
I
do
want
to.
I
do
want
to
keep
us
moving.
I
don't
mean
to
cut
this
short,
but
if
no
one
has
any
other
crucial
questions
at
this
point,
are
we
ready
to
vote?
B
B
The
first
is
appointment
to
the
local,
the
city
of
ithaca,
local
board,
of
assessment
review,
and
I
have
another
name
to
add
here:
resolved
that
marjorie
olds,
marshall,
mccormick
and
cyril
sandstrom,
as
alternate
be
appointed
to
the
city
of
ithaca,
local
advisory
board
of
assessment
review
for
2022
and
iso
move
for
a
second
patrick
all,
those
in
favor.
B
Thank
you
and
then
a
final
appointment
appointment
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
resolved
that
andre
gardner
be
appointed
to
the
bza
with
the
term
to
expire
december.
31
2024
and
I
so
move
sir
a
second
patrick
thank
you
and
all
those
in
favor
and
we'll
say
that
andre
has
been
attending
bza
meetings.
So
this
is
helpful.
Okay,
thank
you.
AA
Before
I,
I
think
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
we
have
about
17
minutes
left
or
so,
and
I
think
we
have
to.
We
have
to
make
that
motion
to
extend
before
we
enter
executive
session,
correct,
dory.
W
I
suppose
that's
true,
yes,
yeah,
that
that's
that's
at
least
a
wise
practice.
In
any
event,
I
will.
AA
Reluctantly,
move
to
add
25
minutes
to
our
meeting
time
will
to
add
an
hour
to
our
meeting
time.
B
AA
So
I
will
to
clarify,
I
will
move
for
us
ending
at
11
30.
B
B
Is
there
a
second
patrick
thank
you
and
all
those
in
favor
again
reluctantly?
But
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
let
me
now
add
the
motion
to
enter
into
a
second
executive
session
to
discuss
the
purchase
or
sale
of
real
estate
and
iso
move
and
patrick
seconds.
B
W
B
Yes,
thank
you
ari,
so
anyone
who's
staying
up
with
us
this
late.
Yes,
there
are
no
votes
expected.
Okay,
we
do
have
an
executive
session.
Zoom
link
and
those
staff
who
will
be
joining
us
for
each
of
the
two
executive
sessions
will
be
then
let
in
by
by
julie.
Patrick,
did
you
have
a
comment.
W
B
So
do
we
need
to
go
to
the
separate
zoom
link.