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A
B
I
have
circulated
it
among
with
Council
it's
a
resolution
on
behalf
of
the
municipal
owners
of
the
Ithaca
wastewater
treatment
plant
to
approve
the
use
of
block
power
for
installation
of
air
source
heat
pump
systems.
A
Thank
you.
Rob.
A
Yes,
alderperson
gerhardt
is
joining
us
this
evening.
Virtually
he
will.
He
does
meet
the
criteria
to
be
able
to
participate
and
to
vote
virtually.
So
we
are
at
full
strength
tonight
with
all
10
council
members
participating.
So
once
again,
Cynthia
has
asked
if
there
is
unanimous
approval
to
add
a
member
filed
item
and
Cynthia.
Do
you
mind
describing
that
item
again.
B
B
A
It
was,
it
was
circulated
late
this
afternoon,
so
there
are
a
few
copies
available.
E
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Seeing
none
report
of
Municipal
officials
and
I
see
that
legislator
pillar
is
with
us
again
this
evening.
So
please
join
us.
F
Hello
is
this
on
oh
fantastic.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
having
me
I've
got
a
few
County
updates,
mainly
mainly
from
last
night's
meeting
a
couple
Staffing
updates.
We
finally
have
a
chief
equity
and
diversity
officer
again
Charlene
Holmes
started
yesterday.
We
haven't
scared
her
off
yet
so
that's
wonderful
and
I'd
just
like
to
congratulate
Leo
Riley,
also
on
becoming
the
new
director
of
the
recycles
and
materials
management
department.
F
Leo
Riley
he's
been
the
deputy
director
for
a
while
and
I
think
a
long
career
in
Waste
Management
before
that
he
is
replacing
Barb
Barb
extra.
Of
course,
who
was
the
first
director
of
the
department
so
38
or
so
years
in
he
is
the
second
we
approved
the
TC3
budget
last
night,
which
is
great.
We
got
new
cameras
in
Chambers,
so
if
you
want
to
see,
if
they
look
any
different,
you
have
to
watch
a
meeting
they're
riveting.
F
We
made
some
progress
a
little
bit
of
progress
on
our
city
of
government,
downtown
facilities
plans.
We
officially
decided
to
sell
408,
North
Tioga,
the
red
house.
It's
not
details
are
being
worked
out
yet
like
where
exactly
is
the
land,
and
so
it's
not
like
out
for
sale
yet,
but
we
have
committed
that
that
is
going
to
happen.
F
So
if
you
know
any
buyers
spread
the
word,
and
we
also
passed
a
resolution
determining
to
go
forward
with
finding
someone
to
make
plans
for
a
center
of
government
building
on
the
300
North
Tioga
block.
So
again,
this
is
like
a
bunch
of
stages
from
a
real
plan,
but
it's
it
is
a
step
forward.
F
Instead
of
considering
a
bunch
of
options
where
like
moving
ahead
with
being
serious
about
one
of
them,
which
is
building
a
center
of
government
County
government
on
300,
300
block
of
Northstar
yoga
as
George
knows
all
too
well
now.
The
we
are
the
legislature
as
a
whole
is
fairly
impatient
to
hear
what
you
all
are
deciding
about.
The
land
use
policy
around
the
encampments,
which
I
know
you've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on,
which
is
great
and
I
just
want
to
share
that.
F
If
you
have
any
updates
at
any
time
that
you'd
want
to
send
through
any
channel
to
us,
we
would
appreciate
it.
I
know
we
can
watch
your
meetings,
but
not
everyone
is
going
to
watch
the
whole
thing.
So
any
summaries
I
think
people
are
antsy
for
that.
F
I
would
love
if
I
and
my
colleagues
would
come
to
your
next
pedc
meeting,
but
unfortunately
we
have
a
budget
hearing
on
that
day.
So
that's
not
going
to
happen,
but
just
updates
are
welcome.
Even
if
decisions
aren't
made
and
coming
up
a
few
special
things
on
September
12th
we're
having
a
joint
committee
meeting
between
Public
Safety
and
facilities
and
infrastructure
to
discuss
possible
Renovations
of
the
public
safety
building
by
either
jail
and
Sheriff's
offices.
F
That's
going
to
be
this
coming
Tuesday
at
1
pm
off
the
usual
schedule
on
September
16th,
so
Saturday
a
week
and
a
half
from
now
our
Department
of
Emergency
Response
is
holding
an
emergency
preparedness
Fair
up
at
the
shops
of
Ithaca
Mall.
It
includes
a
blood
drive
and
I.
Think
some
emergency
preparedness,
training,
I
forget
the
details,
but
it's
going
to
be
great.
I
will
be
there
hope
to
see
you
and
then
same
day,
11
to
3
P.M
down
on
the
common
Suicide,
Prevention
and
crisis.
F
Services
is
this
is
not
a
county
thing
specifically,
but
it
came
up
is
kicking
off
a
suicide
prevention
suicide
awareness
week
with
a
chalk,
the
walk
event,
I
think
the
GF
jumpers
are
going
to
be.
There
I
think
there
will
be
food
from
11
to
3
on
the
commons,
so
I
hope
to
see
you
all
there
too
and
like
over
in
another
couple
meetings
this
month,
the
opiate
task
Force's
recommendations
on
what
to
do
with
opiate
settlement
money
will
be
getting
approved
and
that's
all
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
mentioning
Suicide,
Prevention
awareness.
This
is
suicide
prevention
awareness
month
and
everything
and
anything
we
can
do
to
bring
awareness
is
a
benefit
to
the
community.
Any
questions
for
Veronica.
A
G
Thanks
for
coming
not
a
question
more
of
a
comment:
if
the
baker,
the
old
Baker
Dental
Building,
is
not
going
to
be
used
for
any
active
County
usage,
my
extreme
preference
would
be
for
it
to
not
be
a
parking
lot,
certainly
not
a
surface
parking
lot
instead,
also
maybe
sold
off
for
housing
or
some
other
purpose.
F
H
Hello,
thank
you
for
a
really
thorough
report.
I
had
asked
last
time
about
the
detox
center
and
an
update
and
I
wanted
to
know.
How
is
there
more
update
of
the
opening
what's
happening.
F
There's
not
really
an
update
there.
F
The
idea
has
been
tossed
around
about
whether
it
could
be
used
for
like
short-term
shelter.
For
enough
like
one
of
a
handful
of
purposes
and
I,
don't
it
doesn't
sound
like
that's
moving
forward,
but
I
yeah
I,
don't
know
details,
I,
apologize,
I,
guess
one
of
the
one
of
the
barriers.
F
One
of
the
issues
that's
come
up
is
that,
like
the
sh,
the
search
for
short-term
shelter
that
it
could
potentially
be
used
for
all
of
those
uses
would
involve
some
kind
of
Staffing,
not
like
the
same
nurses
that
they
would
need
to
open,
but
Staffing
that
we
there's
not
extra
of
at
the
moment.
So
that
challenge
goes
along
with
everything.
A
E
I
know
this
is
gonna
sound
kind
of
immature,
but
I
think
it's
really
unfair
that
the
county
gets
a
nice
new,
Big,
Shiny,
spacious
building
and
where
we've
been
working
in
these
dingy
cramped,
drearies,
probably
asbestos
field
building
for
what
50
60
years.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
that's
on
us
for
not
managing
facilities.
Better
I,
don't
know,
but
it's
a
question
that
needs
to
be
looked
into:
I
mean
and
the
they
are.
The
county
legislator
already
has
a
nice
new
meeting
room
so
again,
I
know
this
is
an
emotional,
not
very
mature
statement.
E
But
just
annoys
me:
that's
all.
A
This
room
we
sit
in
is
one
of
the
Prime
examples
of
that,
but
a
number
of
the
city
facilities-
and
we
have
tremendous
needs.
Yes
noted.
F
This
may
not
help,
but
yeah
I
know
I
wanna,
but
here
I
want
to
assure
you
that
our
nice
new
shiny,
like
legislative
Chambers,
if
you're
very
lucky,
to
have
we're
not
replacing
or
anything
that's
going
to
stay
the
way
it
is
and
I
one
of
the
things
not
to
say
that
you
don't
have
this
too
that's
driving
our
needs
among
many
is
that
a
couple
of
our
departments
are
located
in
the
courthouse,
but
the
court
system
has
been
expanding
and
is
going
to
kick
us
out.
So
we
need
to
do
something.
I
A
Yeah
stop
us
while
we're
ahead
or
behind,
or
thank
you
very
much.
As
always,
your
updates
are
timely,
informative
and
we
greatly
appreciate
it.
Okay,
moving
ahead
proclamations
and
awards
I'm
very
pleased
this
evening,
I
don't
see
any
ipd
officers
here,
however,
I
do
have
Cynthia.
B
A
A
Just
after
midnight
officer,
schaser
responded
to
a
reported
stabbing
that
occurred
on
Spencer
Road
officer
schaser,
located
a
stabbing
victim
who
had
been
stabbed
in
the
right
forearm
by
a
suspect
that
had
fled
the
victim,
was
bleeding
profusely
and
had
already
lost
a
significant
amount
of
blood.
Recognizing
the
severity
of
the
injury
officer.
Schaser
made
the
decision
to
apply
a
tourniquet
to
the
victim's
right
arm
and
did
so
quickly
and
effect
effectively
mitigating
further
blood
loss.
It
is
likely
that
officer
schaser
did
not
act.
A
If
officer,
schaser
did
not
act
decisively
that
night
and
stop
the
bleeding
with
a
tourniquet.
The
outcome
for
the
victim
may
have
been
tragically
different,
so
there
is
one
certificate
of
appreciation
for
officer,
Shazer
and
I
know
he's
not
with
us
this
evening,
but
I
do
want
to
hold
up
and
recognize
officer
schaser
for
his
his
service.
A
A
We
have
two
other
officers
who
are
being
recognized
tonight,
officer,
vinti
and
officer
Morse
for
the
exemplary
job
they
did
on
scene.
The
evening
of
6
19.
officer,
vinti
was
the
first
one
on
the
scene
of
the
step
of
a
stabbing
and
with
his
application
of
the
tourniquet,
did
potentially
save
an
individual's
life,
as
there
was
sizable
amount
of
time
before
the
ambulance
arrived.
We
don't
have
full
report
from
the
hospital,
but
doctors
at
CMC
believed
that
the
victim's
ephemeral
artery
was
nicked
officer.
A
Morse
used
the
information
given
to
stop
and
detain
two
substance
suspects
in
this
stabbing
and
identify
a
third
one,
possibly
a
third
perpetrator
as
well
after
the
suspects
were
released
officer.
Morse
proactively
awaited
the
suspects
returned
to
the
scene
in
effort
to
catch
them
collecting
evidence.
A
So
this
is
in
recognition
of
Officer
Morse
and
vinti.
I
have
a
nomination
form
from
Sergeant
Mike
meskel,
and
this
reads
in
the
early
mornings
morning,
hours
of
6
1923
Ithaca,
Police
Officer
Zachary
vinti
was
dispatched
to
the
jungle
for
a
report
of
a
person
who
had
been
stabbed
following
an
altercation
officer,
vinti
located
the
victim
who
was
in
obvious
pain
from
the
injury.
A
The
victim
lost
a
lot
of
blood
and
was
going
in
and
out
of
Consciousness,
due
to
the
stab
wound
to
his
upper
leg
officer
vinti
applied
to
tourniquet
to
the
victim's
leg,
effectively
stopping
the
bleeding
before
the
victim
could
be
transported
to
a
regional,
Trauma,
Center
police
officer.
Vinti
was
praised
by
EMS
and
hospital
staff
for
the
quick
and
proper
application
of
the
tourniquet
which
saved
the
individuals.
A
The
victim's
life
and
Sergeant
meskel
indicates
please
consider
police
officer
vinti
for
the
quarterly
recognition
award
and
we
are
recognizing
tonight
officer
vinti
as
well
as
officer
Morse,
for
the
work
they
did
in
the
line
of
duty,
a
very
tragic
situation,
but
it
is
clear
that
they
saved
the
lives
of
individuals.
So
I
want
to
thank
them
and
recognize
their
service
as
well.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We
will
now
move
to
public
comment
and
I
have
all
the
cards
that
have
been
submitted.
We
have
one
comment,
one
speaker
virtually.
J
A
K
Hi
James
Smith
I've
been
a
paramedic
in
Ithaca
for
five
years.
My
topic
tonight
is
reimagining
Public
Safety
downward
the
jungle.
Apparently
you
want
to
reimagine
Camping
a
captain,
Boy
Scouts.
We
did
not
have
merit
badges
for
methamphetamine,
manufacturing
or
assault
with
a
deadly
weapon.
It's
been
quite
a
month.
In
the
jungle,
there
was
a
serious
stabbing.
Almost
a
melee
is
the
way
it
was
described.
K
A
man
attacked
by
three
vicious
dogs,
the
recovery
of
a
man
who
was
kidnapped
from
the
jungle
and
his
body
kidnapped
from
the
jungle
and
murdered,
and
my
personal
experience,
I
went
on
an
overdose
call
during
the
day.
Dodged
a
rake
and
chicken
wire
set
up
as
razor
wire
to
get
to
a
patient,
took
care
of
our
problem
about
45
minutes
later
the
police
were
chasing
a
man
with
a
machete
into
the
same
area,
from
attempting
to
Rob
Walmart.
K
The
people
living
in
the
jungle
have
brutally
hard
lives.
I
will
see
them
frequently
I
try
to
treat
them
with
respect
and
compassion
that
they
deserve,
but
they
are
among
our
most
difficult
patients
to
deal
with.
They
can
be
very
violent.
Sometimes
most
of
them
have
mental
health
and
or
substance
abuse
problems
they're
not
living
in
campsites.
It's
much
worse
than
that.
I've
carried
a
body
out
of
the
Jungle.
K
There
have
been
murderers,
stabbings
assaults,
serious
burns
from
methamphetamine
manufacturing,
drownings
rapes,
sexual
assaults
and
when
I
hear
city
council
people
talking
about,
we
don't
want
to
criminalize
homelessness,
or
we
want
to
have
carrots
and
sticks
to
bring
more
people
in
I'm
incredulous,
we're
not
having
the
same
discussion.
K
The
new
policy
they're
talking
about
seems
to
be
have
a
green
zone
to
go
deeper
into
the
woods
where
it's
harder
to
EMS
to
get
to
you
overdose
and
die.
Just
don't
OD
in
the
red
zones
where
people
might
see
you
and
call
9-1-1
and
save
your
lives
winter
depopulates,
the
Jungle.
The
city
needs
to
do
it
during
the
rest
of
the
year.
K
The
jungle
is
not
safe
for
its
occupants,
they're
dying
there.
It's
not
safe
for
First
Responders.
Think
of
somebody
jumping
out
with
a
machete
in
the
woods
at
night.
How
do
I
protect
my
20
year
old
EMT?
K
You
are
complicit
in
what
is
happening.
It's
illegal
to
camp
there,
but
you're
allowing
it
I
want
all
all
I'm
urging
all
citizens
to
come
to
the
next
meeting
and
vote
Voice
their
concerns.
You
need
to
be
stopped
before
you
reimagine
again.
It
is
not
safe,
I'm,
a
first
responder
you
make
my
job
harder.
You
make
the
lives
more
dangerous
for
the
people
living
in
the
jungle.
Thank
you.
L
L
One
resolved
there
should
be
a
resolved,
something
the
city
can
do
to
end
ctap,
that
is
to
say,
to
specify
that
the
city
does
not
want
tax
abatements
granted
to
any
old
housing
just
because
of
the
size
of
the
building
and
where
it's
built.
If
tax
abatements
are
to
be
granted,
it
should
be
only
for
100
percent,
affordable
buildings,
I
leave
it
to
you
to
Define,
affordable,
which
I
believe
there's
a
considerable
range
of
needs.
L
L
L
N
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
the
public
through
during
the
public
comments
period
throughout
the
year.
The
common
Council
has
had
important
discussions
and
negotiations
about
compensation
for
ithaca's
public
employees,
both
in
the
form
of
direct
pay
as
well
as
benefits.
Money
is
essential.
Benefits
are
essential,
but,
as
a
proverb
says,
man
shall
not
live
by
bread
alone
or
in
more
contemporary
terms.
N
You
partner
with
the
community
with
the
neighborhoods,
with
non-profits,
with
the
private
sector,
with
downtown
Ithaca
as
part
of
the
fall
activities.
Festivities
and
events
consider
also
including
the
music
and
art
community,
the
theater
Community,
to
name
but
a
few
potential
supporters
to
make
the
week
truly
memorable.
N
The
good
thoughts
that
remain
in
our
heads
about
public
employees
may
make
may
make
us
feel
good,
but
such
thoughts
don't
nurture
an
employee's
Spirit.
What
does
nurture
an
employee's
spirit
is
acknowledging
and
sharing
your
gratitude
verbally
and
in
writing
in
intentional
declarations
and
celebration
that
engages
the
community
at
Large,
our
police
officers,
our
firefighters,
our
garbage
collectors,
our
office
workers,
to
name
but
a
few
of
our
many
service
providers
want
and
need
public
recognition
and
appreciation
Beyond,
this
particular
building's
walls
which
of
us
hasn't
lit
up
inside
when
appreciated
for
our
work.
N
A
simple
thank
you
is
always
appreciated.
A
resolution
such
as
this,
followed
by
Community
Action,
is
priceless.
I've
written
up
my
comments
and
distributed
to
you
and
included
for
your
consideration,
a
sample
resolution,
I'm,
hoping
that
one
or
two
of
you
are
touched
and
inspired
to
act
and
move
such
a
resolution
forward.
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
you.
Thank
you.
O
Hello,
I'm
Margarita
Fabrizio
City
resident
with
the
fair
share
campaign.
Let's
talk
about
the
Corno
pilot
they
made
in
lieu
of
taxes.
I
was
here
several
months
ago
asking
for
this
and
will
tonight
as
well.
Please
suspend
closed-door
meetings
on
a
Cornell
contribution
and
instead
welcome
a
public
discussion.
O
There
are
many
possible
calculations
and
approaches
to
explore
what,
if
we
look
at
Cornell's
total
assessed
property
and
what
their
bill
would
be,
if
not
tax
exempt.
It
equals
33
million
dollars
this
year.
If
you
add
in
what
they
would
owe
to
the
school
district
in
County,
it's
a
hundred
million.
This
is
the
gap.
Taxpayers
are
trying
to
make
up
what.
If
we
look
at
student
housing,
some
institutions
voluntarily
pay
taxes
on
dormitories
recognizing
they
do
not
fall
into
a
strictly
educational
category.
O
O
What
if
we
look
at
buildings
and
businesses
that
are
not
strictly
educational
but
income
producing,
for
example,
The,
Statler,
all
dining
halls
and
cafes,
the
stores?
What
should
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
for
these
Enterprise
operations?
Look
like.
Let's
ask
Cornell
for
the
square
footage
of
these
and
work
with
the
assessor
to
convert
those
numbers
into
property
values
and
apply
our
tax
rate
to
that
we
could
explore
some
equivalent
percentage
of
the
gross
sales
from
those
operations,
let's
also
think
long
term,
and
look
at
legislative
remedies
with
state
and
federal
Representatives.
O
O
Let's
explore
the
existing
Federal
endowment
tax
and
see
how
it
could
ultimately
benefit
local
communities.
This
is
not
the
time
for
deal
making.
This
is
the
time
for
research
and
fact
collecting
and
inviting
citizens
who
have
been
researching
this
issue
for
months
to
give
input
we're
free
labor.
You
should
take
advantage
of
us,
let's
shift
into
participatory
government
and
leave
our
current
closed
door.
Silent
approach
behind
forging
a
new
partnership
is
essential
for
all
of
us,
and
that
includes
for
all
of
Cornell.
O
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Zach
Nguyen.
My
first
question
is
to
miss
Kumar.
At
the
previous
meeting
of
the
common
Council,
you
said
that
it
was
anti-semitic
to
compare
the
green
zone
proposal
to
a
concentration
camp
and
I'm,
just
curious
to
whom
exactly
you
were
referring.
I
elaborated
that
on
that
question
in
an
email.
Another
question
is
to
George
McGonagall
at
the
legislature.
Meeting
yesterday,
you
said
the
issue
of
enforcement
of
the
city's
proposed
plan
was
settled.
P
You
know
at
the
previous
meeting
of
the
community
police
board,
you
communicated
that
road
zones
and
police
enforcement
had
been
removed
from
The
Proposal.
The
thing
that
things
were
also
back
to
square
one
and
I
don't
want
to
accuse
you
of
misleading
the
legislature,
but
I'm
curious.
If
you
could
clarify
what
appears
to
be
an
inconsistency
in
this
set
of
statements,
I
believe
the
issue
is
worthy
of
special
priority
and
especially
light
in
light
of
the
kidnapping
and
murder
of
Thomas
wrath.
P
The
Plath
the
plan
in
my
in
any
form
will
not
be
in
place
until
spring.
Urgent
action
is
needed
immediately
to
arrest
the
cycle
of
violence,
overdoses
and
deaths
and
with
the
issue
of
the
proposed
trans
Safe
Haven
law
before
the
council
this
evening.
I
am
curious
if
there
is
a
potential
for
transgender
miners
to
flee
to
the
community
and
for
the
city
to
find
itself
in
the
middle
of
what
amounts
to
a
custody
battle.
P
P
Making
a
in
the
in
also
in
the
workplace,
making
people
wear
masks.
Excuse
me
making
people
like
cashiers
and
bus
drivers
into
the
mask
police
turns
typically
neutral
relationships
into
adversarial
ones.
Please
do
not
allow
or
to
return
to
authoritarianism
under
the
guise
of
Health.
P
There
is
a
festering
crisis
in
ithaca's,
drug
encampments
and
I
wish.
There
was
a
fraction
of
a
concern
for
the
people
in
the
jungle
that
there
is
for
covid
in
the
ethical
car
share
or
the
ethical
Green
New
Deal
I
also
call
your
attention
to
a
recent
article
on
block
power.
I
have
forwarded
via
email.
It
is
apparent
that
there
are
many
issues
with
block
power's
business
model
and
claims
customers
exist
to
serve
as
Commodities
on
blackrock's
ESG
exchange
and
I
request.
The
council
scrutinize
for
the
future
projects
and
excuse
me
future
projects.
P
With
block
power
and
other
outside
organizations
with
their
own
interest,
Ithaca
should
not
no
longer
be
used
as
a
guinea
pig
for
experimental
policies
that
do
not
benefit
the
citizenry
and
I
closed
by
appealing
to
Mayor
Lewis,
to
use
your
final
months
in
office
to
do
as
much
as
you
can
to
ease
the
dangerous
conditions
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
Q
Hello
good
evening,
Council
I'm
just
here
as
a
reminder,
I've
seen
that
the
resolution
that
that
was
put
on
hold
you
know
two
months
ago
to
resolve
the
resolution
to
release
funding
to
UPR
for
2023,
didn't
make
the
agenda
so
I'm
just
here
as
a
reminder
that
UPI
has
now
been
looking
to
get
our
submitted,
sow
and
mou
to
the
mayor's
office
finalize
and
approve
with
the
city
of
Ithaca.
Q
For
roughly
three
years
now
we
have
provided
various
services
to
the
city
as
appointed
to
do
so
by
former
mayor
savante.
Myrick
UPI
has
worked
with
various
Departments
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
planning
and
economic
development
stakeholders
on
his
comprehensive
economic
Recovery
Solutions
faces
like
Gary
Ferguson
Tom
Knight
Lisa,
Nichols,
Joanna,
Cornish
Nels
bonus
Etc.
We
spearheaded,
along
with
the
DIA
the
city's
Pursuit
efforts
in
the
downtown
revitalization
initiative.
Q
Upr
created
a
vision,
a
theme
and
a
compelling
story
around
the
need
for
significant
investment
in
our
West
End
Corridor,
even
presented
Vision
to
the
state
Economic
Development
stakeholders,
Gary
has
now
retired
to
Volante
is
no
longer
mayor.
Various
folks
have
transitioned,
while
we
are
still
here
still
here
patiently
awaiting
for
mou
discussions
with
the
city
and
release
of
funds
to
continue
programming.
Q
Recently,
UPI
has
taken
the
initiative
to
ensure
we
bring
Clarity
to
any
misunderstandings
around
the
work
of
UPI
in
our
progress,
George
McGonagall,
who
has
raised
many
questions
about
upi's
projects
and
programming,
has
been
able
to
see
firsthand
the
work
of
UPI
and
the
way
we
operate.
I
asked
UPI
in
the
city
to
find
the
time
to
come
together
to
address
the
resolution
to
finalize
mou
and
release
her
2023
funds
to
UPI.
Q
We
understand
the
importance
of
building
healthy
relationship
with
our
local
government
as
we
pursue
state
and
federal
resources,
which
oftentimes
require
collaboration
and
support
from
your
local
municipality.
Last
but
not
least,
it
has
been
an
honor
serving
my
community,
from
which
I
am
born.
I
also
appreciate
the
work
which
has
been
done
collaboratively
collaboratively
as
a
community.
Thank
you
and
I
yield.
The
remainder
of
my
time.
R
R
R
I
don't
know:
we've
been
sitting
on
some
really
good
ideas
for
quite
a
while.
Somehow
Tides
never
happened,
we're
back
at
the
drawing
board
and
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
our
community
continue
to
be
put
In
Harm's
Way
on
a
daily
is
evidenced
by
what
happened
with
Thomas
Wrath
to
11
people.
R
R
Where
are
we
without
our
First
Responders
I
mean
I'm
a
pretty
equipped
person,
but
I,
don't
know
how
to
respond
to
some
things.
I've
called
the
police
when
domestic
violence
in
my
own
home
put
me
in
imminent
harm
because
I
needed
somebody
to
de-escalate
it.
Somebody
with
a
gun
on
their
hip
I
called
the
police
multiple
times
to
get
out
of
an
abusive
marriage.
R
I,
don't
know
who
who
responds
when
you
need
help?
Yes,
we
have
neighbors.
Yes,
you
know
we
have
people
who
can
support
us
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
and
yeah.
We
can
always
do
better,
but
I
really
question
like
who
do
you
serve
as
you
vote
yourself?
A
massive
raise
and
our
First
Responders
are
spending
all
of
the
time
that
they
have
investigating
the
murder
of
someone
that
we're
allowing
to
live
in
the
jungle.
A
S
Thank
you,
Council
I
want
to
speak
on
some
things.
I
know
what's
on
the
agenda
tonight,
which
is
the
proposed
Charter
changes
to
address
the
sort
of
role
of
the
city,
manager
and
I
speak
to
this
as
a
citizen
and
a
couple
of
concerns,
I
have
and
things
that
I
hope
you
all
are
thinking
about.
As
you
look
at
this
first
is
the
appointment
of
a
city
manager.
S
I
know
there
were
considerations
of
what
that
threshold
should
be,
whether
or
not
it's
a
simple
majority,
a
majority
plus
one
or
two-thirds,
and
there
are
folks
who
are
far
more
qualified
than
I-
am
to
speak
about
these
sort
of
legal
implications
of
that
I
know
of
which
have
been
litigated
fairly
significantly
in
different
municipalities
across
the
state
earlier
this
year.
S
But
I
want
to
point
to
is
from
a
citizen's
perspective
and
the
ability
for
citizens
to
engage
in
a
democratic
process
that
there's
the
possibility,
and
this
is
what
sort
of
Courts
have
addressed,
that
if
they
choose
to
change
their
representative
at
regular
elections,
that
those
CH
that
those
Representatives
their
voices
won't
be
diluted
and
their
votes
won't
be
diluted
when
it
comes
to
choosing
the
most
important
officer
in
this
city-
and
this
is
particularly
true
for
termination,
while
is
absolutely
essential-
that
there
be
a
stable
administrator
here
and
and
that,
hopefully,
that
puts
our
path.
S
Our
city
on
the
path
to
sort
of
more
effective
governance.
I
am
concerned
that
any
that
the
imposition
of
a
higher
requirement
would
would
dilute
the
power
of
Voters
I
mean
we
can
can
say,
sort
of
council
members
or
sort
of
elected
officials.
What
should
their
powers
be,
but
it
really
comes
to
voters
and
in
certain
cities
across
the
state
we've
seen
where
this
has
gone.
Bad
I
think,
particularly
in
the
city
of
New
Rochelle.
S
Where
I
know
these
sort
of
non-interference
clause,
which
has
now
thankfully
been
struck,
where
that
was
copied
from
where
they
had
a
city
manager
for
30
years,
who
became
unaccountable
because
there
wasn't
a
two-thirds
majority
on
Council
to
be
able
to
exert
effective
oversight
and
potentially
use
that
power
of
termination.
S
So
so
I
hope
you
consider
this
as
you
look
as
you
consider
this
issue
tonight
and
then
finally-
and
this
is
an
issue
that
I
feel
hasn't
gotten
due
attention,
but
in
I
think
it's
section,
two
subsection
e
of
the
current
draft
there's
a
clause
that
gives
the
city
manager
the
powers
to
fix
the
compensation
of
all
city
employees,
not
otherwise
specified
section
37
of
the
charter
gives
the
power
that
power
to
council
and,
of
course,
they're
sort
of
you
can
consult
with
your
Council.
S
But
from
my
perspective,
the
city
that
has
seen
such
significant
issues
with
public
workers
and
their
treatment
and
their
Fair
compensation.
I
would
want
to
be
sure
that
that
power
to
fix
compensation
is
ultimately
vested
with
elected
officials
and
not
handed
off
as
sort
of
a
mere
administrative
and
bureaucratic
obligation,
because
it's
not
because
it
is
really
essential
to
the
function
of
the
city,
it's
essential
to
maintaining
a
strong
Workforce
and
it's
essential
that
that
power
ultimately
remains
with
the
voters
of
the
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
T
Hi
I'm
Dave,
Shapiro
and
I
wear
a
few
different
hats
in
this
community,
but
I'm
here
today,
as
the
Democratic
nominee
of
Ward
three
and
as
someone
who's
been
attending
the
last
several
meetings
and
and
listening
to
a
lot
of
what
the
Public's
had
to
say
and
I
thought
I
would
take
an
opportunity
to
provide
what
I
thought
would
be.
My
response
to
the
community
we've
had
a
little
discussion
today
about
the
negotiations
with
Cornell,
but
that
was
the
main
topic
of
discussion.
T
A
few
meetings
back
when
the
public
organized
and
of
offered
public
comment
about
the
mou
negotiations
with
Cornell,
obviously
wanting
to
hire
to
advocate
for
higher
Financial
contribution.
However,
most
people
in
the
room
were
simply
asking
to
know
who,
on
the
council
or
employed
by
the
city
has
been
tested
but
representing
their
interests.
T
They
weren't
asking
to
be
in
the
negotiation
room,
participating
that
level
of
detail
or
policy
or
privacy
excuse
me,
but
to
know
with
full
transparency
who
is
sitting
in
that
room,
representing
our
interests
with
limited
resources
to
spend
and
competing
interested
interest
for
funding.
It
seems
to
me
that
engaging
the
public
with
as
much
transparency
as
possible
would
keep
stakeholders
informed
and
able
to
Advocate
effectively
and
I
want
to
ask
that
this
body
reconsider.
T
Why
is
it
why
it's
chosen
to
keep
the
names
of
the
negotiation
team
confidential
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
homeless,
homelessness
and
the
campus
policy,
probably
not
going
to
have
enough
time
for
what
I've
written
and
there's.
Certainly
a
lot
I
can
say:
I
think.
Certainly
we
need
more
housing
in
Ithaca
and
our
Democratic
mayoral
candidate
has
shared
his
views
for
housing.
T
T
We're
not
discussing
this
policy
within
the
contents
of
reimagining,
Public,
Safety
and
I'd
argue
that
it
should
be
part
of
that
conversation,
although
we're
actually
not
talking
about
reimagining
Public
Safety
right
now,
I
make
that
suggestion
about
homelessness
and
reimagining
Public
Safety,
knowing
full
well
that
when
it
comes
to
reimagining
Public
Safety,
this
concept
has
a
roots
in
the
unfair
and
often
violent
treatment
that
black
and
brown
people
have
historically
faced
in
America,
due
to
an
unjust
and
often
racist
police
system.
T
But
I
offer
the
notion
about
responding
to
our
homeless
crisis
within
reimagining
Public
Safety,
because
the
right
crisis
relates
to
people
experiencing
a
lack
of
safety.
I
hope
I
can
have
a
few
more
seconds.
I
grew
up
in
New,
York
City
and
I
often
have
a
different
perception
of
ithaca's
safety.
But
this
isn't
about
my
experience.
A
T
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
can
certainly
any
member
of
the
public
can
certainly
share
their
comments
in
an
email
with
with
Council
I
believe
we
have
one
speaker
signed
up
virtually
and
that
is
Gary
criminals.
U
Yes,
actually
you
pronounced
it
correctly.
That
is
normally
people
don't
get
that
correct.
You
can
call
me
whatever
you
want.
Okay,.
U
You,
my
name,
is
Gary
cremeans,
as
I
stated
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
tonight,
I,
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
go
Ithaca
and
the
new,
how
it's
kind
of
been
redeveloped
for
sustainable
Transportation,
a
sustainable
transportation
for
a
number
of
years
at
Cornell,
Union,
University
I
was
there
for
just
under
20
years,
I
now
work
for
the
non-profit
go
Ithaca
that
was
under
the
umbrella
for
Dia.
U
We
are
now
our
own
transportation
management
organization
also
could
be
known
as
the
TMA
transportation
management
agency.
U
So
we
covered
not
just
the
city
now
or
the
DIA
area,
all
of
Tompkins
County,
promoting
sustainable
Transportation,
also
with
a
focus
specifically
on
certain
aspects
with
our
federal
and
state
funding
for
lower
income
Parts
within
the
county
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
was
aware
of
that,
as
I
will
probably
bring
updates
throughout
my
tenure
at
go
Ithaca
to
make
sure
everyone
is
aware
of
our
different
projects
that
we
are
working
on,
so
everyone
is
kind
of
on
the
same
page
and
I
I
will
want
to
say
one
thing
before
I
do
forget
I
appreciate
what
duck
said.
U
I'm
sorry,
I
always
say
is
a
abbreviated
name
about
not
building
more
parking,
so
every
once
in
a
while,
I
might
say
something
like
that,
but
go
go
ethica
as
I
stated
right
now.
If
you
go
to
go
I'm
not
trying
to
do
a
commercial
where
non-profit,
we
offer
a
lot
of
benefits
to
people
across
the
county
to
sign
up
for
whether
it
be
Transit
and
now
with
the
Ithaca
car
share
not
being
with
being
dissolved.
U
We
are
reimagining
what
was
called
the
guaranteed
right
home
program
and
be
doing
it
for
emergency
right
home
program
and
piloting
a
program
for
electric
bikes,
along
with
a
number
of
other
projects
that
I
won't
get
into.
For
this
short
amount
of
time,
and
that's
all
I
have
I'll
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
tonight.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
Gary,
and
there
is
someone
who
had
not
who
believed
she
had
signed
up
to
speak
Lee
Rogers.
Had
you
submitted
a
card
earlier,
okay,.
A
Okay,
well,
please
join
us
for
three
minutes.
V
Silence
is
uncomfortable,
isn't
it
like
the
silence,
we're
hearing
that
when
we're
not
hearing
about
the
pilot
program,
complete
silence,
I
was
at
the
August
meeting
and
oh
I
want
to
say
that
silence
can
breed
suspicion.
V
V
The
Cornell
host
city
of
Ithaca
is
a
city
that
carries
the
burden
of
a
population
that
doubles
during
the
school
year
which,
after
all,
is
the
majority
of
the
year.
But
we
live
here
full
time
and
we
want
to
continue
to
do
so.
V
Even
though
I
was
in
attendance
at
the
August
meeting
and
heard
some
really
clear,
rational,
heartfelt
public
comments,
I
wanted
to
revisit
that.
So
I
pulled
up
YouTube
the
other
night
and
I
had
forgotten
that
the
council,
four
members
of
the
10
member
Council,
had
responded
after
the
public
comments
and
although
that
was
not
a
quorum,
you
know
I,
really
appreciated.
Hearing
from
the
the
members
of
the
council
that
actually
had
comments.
V
The
three-minute
statements
from
the
public
at
the
August
meeting
pleaded
the
case
for
transparency
on
negotiations
for
the
pilot
contract
between
Cornell
and
Ithaca.
Like
I
said
they
were
clear.
They
were
rational.
They
were
heartfelt
and
concerning
the
present
stress
on
City
resources
and
the
individuals
who
live
here,
I,
don't
need
to
repeat
what
was
off
repeated
in
August
and
now
September
meetings
and
and
in
the
excellent
coverage
from
the
Independent
newspapers
here
in
in
Ithaca.
V
There
are
three
things
that
we
know
and
only
three
things.
First,
three
Cornell
Board
of
trustee
meetings
will
be
held
in
Ithaca
in
October
and
in
March
and
in
May
the
rest
will
be
in
New
York
City.
Second,
the
20-year
contract
with
Cornell
expires
in
June
of
next
year
and
third,
that
the
health
and
safety
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
is
in
jeopardy.
V
V
A
Thank
you
response
from
Council
colleagues.
A
W
So
thanks
everybody
who
spoke
today
just
a
few
quick
points
to
respond
to
the
comments
we
received
this
evening
to
Teresa's
point
I.
Think
you
raised
some
important
elements
of
what's
needed
in
a
holistic
conversation
around
housing.
I.
Think
many
of
us
have
probably
read
the
reports
that
state
that
Ithaca
is
the
second
most
expensive
city
to
live
in
in
the
state
after
New
York
City,
which
is
mind-boggling,
I,
do
think
a
comprehensive
housing
strategy
is
absolutely
essential
for
us
to
build
a
city.
That's
inclusive,
affordable,
sustainable
and
dynamic.
W
W
The
language
in
the
resolution
is
built
on
the
requirements
of
Governor
hokel's
newly
announced
through
executive
order,
pro-housing
communities
plan
and
through
opting
into
this
program,
the
city
will
improve
its
competitiveness
scoring
and
prioritization
for
state
grants
that
can
assist
with
our
housing,
transportation
and
economic
development
priorities,
but
I
definitely
welcome
further
Community
conversation
around
how
we
can
address
other
elements
of
our
housing
priorities.
I
want
to
say
to
Fred's
point
I
appreciate
your
suggestion
about
further
elevating
our
appreciation
for
the
work
of
our
city,
employees
and
their
dedication
to
the
community.
W
W
I
think
it's
important
to
have
an
understanding
of
all
the
elements
involved,
not
necessarily
particulars
as
I
think
as
many
of
you
said,
but
but
at
least
you
know,
what's
on
the
what's
on
the
negotiating
team
and
then
two
I
guess
I'll
just
raise
the
question
of.
Thank
you
again
to
Jordan
for
your
for
your
comments.
W
This
evening,
I
guess
I
would
just
raise
the
question
of
what
is
the
current
status
of
the
mou
progress,
a
contract
with
UPI,
which
I
believe,
which
my
understanding
is
that
we
need
to
have
finalized
before
we
can
release
funding
but
again
Jordan.
Thank
you
for
being
here
this
evening
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
colleagues.
Thank
you.
X
Sorry
I
will
I
don't
have
any
direct
responses
to
to
public
comments.
Should
I
save
that
for
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Sorry,
my
brain's
a
little
rattled
here,
yeah
I'll,
save
it
for
the
end
of
the
meeting
they
weren't.
They
were
just
privilege
of
the
floor
comments
as
opposed
to
a
public
response.
Public
comments,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
folks
have
time
to
do
that.
You
know
the
longer
meeting.
Okay.
A
H
H
I
was
little
heartened
by
a
lot
of
stuff
that
I
heard
I
want
to
thank
you
again,
Jordan
for
always
and
continuing
to
push
us
forward
to
do
this
work.
You
know
and
I
I
with
Rob
would
love
to
know
where
we
stand
now
with
the
2023
mou,
all
right,
I'm,
really
thankful
and
grateful
to
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
came.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
show
our
workers
city
workers.
You
know
that
they
are
loved
and
needed
and
and
supported
right.
It
made
me
think
of
I.
Just
was
down
in
Harlem
for
a
harlem
week.
I
don't
know
if
we
could
do
the
50th
hip-hop
anniversary
and
all
that,
but
but
it
was
just
amazing
when
Community
comes
out
and
comes
together
and
support
each
other
right.
That's
where
I
got
this
dress,
but
anyway,
I
I'm
really
thankful
to
have
you
and
always
thank
you
Teresa.
H
You
always
teach
me
and
very
saddened
about,
and
relieved
about.
You
know
we're
still
working
around
tides
and
it
makes
me
think
of
reimagining
Public
Safety,
how
long
we
had
to
wait
for
that
and
we
still
waiting
and
also
looking
at
what
happened
and
grateful
that
they
were
able
to
find
the
individuals
that
alleged
or
responsible
for
this
gentleman
who
was
harmed
right.
But
it
brings
me
to
a
point
of
like
I
need
that
energy
in
finding
and
resolving
the
murders
of
the
black
men
and
women
killed
in
this
community.
H
That
is
still
unsolved.
The
Jour
Gandhi
Tehran
Forest
Lawton
Angel,
like
we
need
that
energy
in
our
communities
too.
We
understand
what
it's
like
to
feel
unsafe,
I'm,
protected
and
alone
right.
So
I
was
just
so
enamored
and
happy
to
see
the
energy
put
in
to
find
these
alleged
number
of
people
who
did
this
harm
to
this,
this
man
in
the
jungle,
but
we
also
need
them
in
our
communities.
Also
right.
H
I
just
want
people
to
remember
that
we
have
some
black
individuals
in
this
community
who
have
been
murdered
and
we
have
not
yet
solved
their
murders
right.
I.
Do
understand
right,
no
I,
don't
understand.
I
just
want
to
feel
that
when
you
look
at
other
communities,
you
look
at
us
the
same.
That's
what
reimaginate
Public
Safety
was
all
about
right
and
thank
you
for
connecting
how
reimagining,
Public
Safety
can
be
really
integral
and
the
stuff
and
the
work
that
we
can
do
in
the
jungle
like
think
about
it.
H
If
we
get
those
under
armed
responders
on
pay
right,
that's
some
work.
They
could
be
doing
right.
So
what
I
say
all
this
to
say
that
we
all
want
to
have
a
safe
environment
right.
You
know
not
like
when
I
was
on
the
commons
and
I
watched
people
burn
flags
of
BLM
and
Asian
flags.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
we
are
human
too,
and
we
feel
pain,
also,
if
that's
not
clear
to
others
right
right
and
30
percent
more
for
for
the
work
that
we
do
in
this
community.
H
Yes,
yes,
I,
wanna,
I
I
was
just
reading
something
today
about
the
billions
of
dollars.
That's
given
to
police
force
around
the
world.
I
was
also
reading
about
yes,
when
you're
white
and
in
this
community
in
other
communities.
Your
interaction
with
police
officers
are
very
different,
like
80
percent
different,
we
have
seen
another
side
right.
H
H
I
I
I'd
like
to
respond
to
a
few
of
the
things
that
were
said
this
evening.
Mr
Smith
I
really
appreciate
your
words.
You
gave
us
a
very
clear
idea
of
what's
going
on
in
the
jungle,
and
it's
something
we
have
to
deal
with.
I
I
will
say
that
the
plans
for
the
green
zone
actually
increase
the
ability
for
First
Responders
to
reach
those
encampments.
There's
a
new
road
that
circles
that
acreage
that
would
allow
fire
trucks,
small
fire
trucks
and
ambulances
and
police
cars
to
circulate
around
there.
So
actually
it's
not
Woods.
It's
it's
creating
a
space.
The
idea
is
to
create
a
space
that
is
as
easier
access
to
services
and
to
Public
Safety
Zach,
the
issue
of
enforcement
that
that
was
my
bad
I.
I
When
I
talked
to
the
legislature
last
night,
I
thought
they
meant
the
word
enforcement
and
we
went
around
and
around
and
around
about
that
word,
and
so
I
said
that
that
was
kind
of
behind
us
because
it
is
but
the
issue
of
whether
we
would
enforce
people
to
move
from
certain
areas
of
the
Jungle.
That's
not
resolved,
so
that
that
was
just
McGonagall
model.
I
As
you
know,
we
had
a
working
group,
a
Tides
working
group
that
met
for
over
a
year
and
the
idea
was
to
create
a
much
more
sophisticated
service,
oriented
encampment
with
real
buildings
in
the
Southwest,
and
it
was
when
you
took
over
at
second
wind
and
decided
to
pull
out
of
those
meetings
that
that
whole
concept
really
took
a
bit
a
bad
hit,
and
you
decided
to
make
a
similar
place
in
Newfield
and
you're
awarded
like
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
county.
I
I
I'll
stand
by
that
and
you
can
correct
me
later
if
you
want
but
Second
Wind
pulled
out
of
those
that
working
group.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
to
everyone
who
came
out
to
speak
I'm,
sorry
I
can't
be
with
you
all
this
evening,
yeah
just
a
quick
update.
We
will
be
addressing
a
revision
to
the
draft
policy
that
came
before
pedc
at
the
next
petc
meeting.
I
hope
my
colleagues
from
Council
can
either
join
us,
or
at
least
pay
attention
to
that,
as
we
hope
that
we're
going
to
move
that
through
and
have
it
come
to
the
next
council
meeting.
C
So
I
just
will
reiterate
what,
with
my
what
my
colleague
George
just
noted,
that
to
Mr
Smith
the
green
zone
that
we're
proposing
that
will
be
one
step
towards
a
larger
strategy
of
helping
to
get
people
housed
is
going
to
make
it
more
accessible
and
hopefully
safer,
and
then
we
all
will
be
addressing
both
that
policy,
as
well
as
the
safety
related
enforcement
issues
when
that
comes
back
to
the
committee.
So
more
update,
I
hope
that
we'll
see
this
moving
along
quickly.
A
Thank
you,
Cynthia
van
Jorge.
B
Thank
you,
I
I,
just
do
want
to
respond
to
my
colleague
statements
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
clarification.
Second
Wind
board
decline,
involvement,
not
David
Shapiro.
It
was
a
decision
of
the
board
and
I
will
also
say
that
the
city
did
not
submit
to
the
county
to
apply
for
tides.
So
if
the
city
didn't
apply,
if
the
city
had
applied,
we
would
be
in
a
better
position,
but
the
city
did
not
apply
so
I
I.
Don't
believe
that
the
responsibility
should
be
placed
on
the
individual.
B
The
circumstances
are
unfortunate.
I
agree
with
my
colleague.
This
has
taken
too
long.
I
also
want
to
State
clearly
that,
indeed,
no
camping
is
allowed
in
the
city
right
now.
Creating
a
green
zone
would
allow
a
place
where
camping
would
be
allowed
where
Services
could
be
provided.
Hopefully,
the
city
will
contract
with
service
providers,
who
have
the
expertise
and
experience
and
support
to
be
able
to
provide
that
supportive
environment
and
safe
environment
with
all
the
amenities
that
people
need.
B
I
do
believe
that
by
administering
and
and
enforcing
and
I
will
use
reference
to
law
enforcement.
I
do
believe
that
they
provide
a
needed
service
in
using
enforcement
and
administration
of
no
camping
and
having
people
be
directed
to
Services,
whether
or
not
it's
Emergency
Shelters
or
the
camping
area.
We
hopefully
wrap
around
Services,
provided
there
I
do
believe
the
Bad
actors
will
self-select
out
right
now
we
have
no
Administration,
no
enforcement.
The
Bad
actors
have
taken
control.
B
X
My
brain
woke
up
so
I
I
can
give
some
comments.
First,
I
appreciate
the
comments
that
that
Miss
Miss
Phoebe
mentioned
I
also
appreciate
Teresa's
comments
regarding
the
housing
Grant
as
well.
X
X
You
know,
and
and
in
response
to
concerns
regarding
salary,
raises
an
increase
of
common
Council.
It's
been
with
the
exception
of
last
year.
X
It's
been
a
considerable
time
since
we've
Revisited
that
and
if
we
want
a
government,
that's
going
to
work
for
people,
we
have
to
make
that
government
accessible
to
anybody
and
everybody
and
frankly,
as
one
of
those
people
who
this
government
is
not
very
accessible
to
as
it
stands
right
now,
barring
having
multiple
positions
of
employment,
I
think
this
is
an
important
and
necessary
step
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
today
to
making
our
local
government
more
accessible,
two
folks
and
then.
X
Lastly,
this
isn't
a
response
to
a
public
comment,
but
I
know
that
we're
going
to
lose
some
folks
in
the
crowd
after
at
the
end
approach
with
the
floor,
so
I
do
just
want
to
make
mention
of
the
beginning
of
Hispanic
Heritage
Month
on
the
15th
of
September,
through
October,
as
the
only
Latino
on
common
Council
I'm,
looking
forward
to
celebrating
it
with
all
my
Hispanic,
siblings
and
latinx
siblings
throughout
the
community,
and
also
on
September
11th
marks
the
anniversary
of
the
terrible
tragedy
that
our
country
faced
and
so
I'll
be
taking
some
time
to
mourn
that
day.
X
It's
also
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
the
coup,
the
the
illegal
coup
in
Chile
that
we
know
through
Declassified
documents,
the
United
States
was
heavily
involved
then,
and
so,
as
we
mourn
the
tragic
losses
that
we
as
a
country
faced
on
September
11
2001.
We
must
also
mourn
and,
as
a
country,
take
accountability
for
the
tragic
loss
of
life
and
democracy
that
we
were
responsible
for
in
Chile
in
1973
and
moved
to
become
better
neighbors,
not
just
throughout
our
country
but
throughout
our
region.
X
So
I
just
want
to
share
that
before
the
crowd
cleared
out
after
privilege
of
the
floor.
Thank
you
all.
H
I
just
have
to
say
this
because
it's
on
my
heart,
like
you,
know,
I'm,
so
really
saddened
by
the
jungle
of
come
here
31
years
ago,
and
the
jungle
was
in
existence
right.
However,
I'm
also
like
you
know,
West
Village
Chestnut
we've
had
some
serious
situations
happening
up
there.
Where
was
the
outpour
right?
A
Thank
you,
Phoebe
all
right
I
have
to
acknowledge
that
I
skipped
over
1.4,
which
is
review
and
approval
of
minutes.
So
I'll
now
ask
if
there's
a
motion
to
approve
the
August
2nd
and
the
August
9th
Council
minutes
Jorge.
Thank
you
Robert.
A
I
would
now
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
enter
into
executive
session
to
discuss
labor
contract
negotiations.
Donna.
Is
there
a
second
Robert
all
those
in
favor
of
moving
into
executive
session
and
that
and
that
passes
10-0?
So
we
will
move
to
the
second
floor
conference
room
for
executive
session
I
do
anticipate.
There
will
be
a
vote
following
this
executive
session.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
As
we
went
into
executive
session
to
discuss
labor
contract
negotiations,
as
I
indicated,
we
are
coming
out
of
that
executive
session
with
two
resolutions.
So
I
will
now
ask
if
a
member
of
council
wishes
to
move
one
of
the
two
resolutions.
George
go
ahead.
Please.
I
This
is
a
resolution
for
the
Ithaca
professional
firefighters,
Association
contract
resolved
that
common
Council
approves
the
agreement
between
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
the
Ithaca
professional
firefighters,
Association
for
a
six-year
term,
commencing
January
1st
2021,
an
expiring
December,
31st
2026
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
mayor
is
authorized
to
fully
execute
the
agreement
on
behalf
of
the
city.
I
still
move.
A
I
The
second
resolution
is
approval
and
authorization
to
execute
the
chief
officer's
unit
contract
in
the
fire
department
resolved
that
common
Council
approves
the
agreement
between
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
the
Ithaca
Chief
officers
unit
for
a
six-year
term,
commencing
January,
1st
2021
and
expiring
December
31st
2026,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
mayor
is
authorized
to
fully
execute
the
agreement
on
behalf
of
the
city
I.
So
move.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
just
want
to
offer
a
few
comments
myself
as
we've
just
celebrated
Labor
Day.
This
is
really
something
that
I'm
very
pleased
that
we
have
been
able
to
reach
agreement
on
to
reach
terms
that
are
beneficial
to
the
Ithaca
firefighters,
Union
and
the
chief
officers.
Union
I
want
to
thank
our
city
negotiating
team,
our
lead
negotiator,
Jim
Romer
and
our
negotiating
team
that
has
included
controller
Steve,
Thayer
HR,
Director,
Shelley,
Michelle,
Nunn,
Chief
of
Staff
Deb
molenhoff,
and,
as
I
indicated,
the
negotiating
team
has
met
regularly.
A
They
have
met
with
the
lead
negotiators
of
the
union
and
has
they
have
kept
the
council
liaison
abreast
of
updates
along
the
way,
and
they
have
certainly
kept
me
updated
on
progress,
as
this
has
moved
through
so
I'm
very
pleased
with
this
vote
tonight
and
looking
forward
to
moving
moving
ahead
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
once
again
all
right.
Our
next
agenda
item
is
consent
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
to
pass
Robert?
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
on
the
consent
agenda?
A
Thank
you.
I'll
now
turn
turn
to
City
Administration
committee
and
chair
cantomo.
W
Thank
you,
mayor
colleagues,
I'll
just
again
for
5.1
draw
your
attention
to
the
corrected
resolution
that
was
passed
out
of
CA
apology
to
the
public.
The
correct
room
is
not
included
in
the
agenda
back
it
resolution
5.1
declaring
the
city
of
Ithaca
a
safe
haven
for
gender,
affirming
Health
Care
by
supporting
New
York
State
bill
s2475
a6046,
whereas
in
June
2023
Governor
hokel
signed
legislation
protecting
persons
seeking
gender,
affirming
medical
and
psychological
care
in
New
York
state.
Our
state
is
now
one
of
12
states.
W
Without
protections,
the
legislation
will
prohibit
consideration
of
other
states
laws,
permitting
removal
of
children
from
their
homes
when
their
Guardians
consent
to
gender,
affirming
care,
prohibit
law
enforcement
agencies
from
cooperating
with
or
providing
information
to
any
person
or
agency
outside
of
New
York
State
regarding
lawful
gender,
affirming
care
performed
in
New
York
state
prohibit
the
issuance
of
subpoenas
related
to
proceedings
in
other
states
against
people
who
come
to
New
York
for
gender.
Affirming
care
prohibit
the
arrest
of
anyone
for
performing
or
aiding
in
the
lawful
performance
of
gender
reforming
care.
W
Care
practitioners
provide
research-based
gender
affirming
services
in
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
Facilities
elsewhere
in
Tompkins,
County
and
whereas
the
city
of
Ithaca
recognizes
the
vital
importance
of
research-based
Compassionate
Care
to
people
who
seek
gender
affirming
services
and
whereas
it
is
necessary
and
appropriate
to
exercise
the
authority
vested
in
the
city
Charter,
including
the
coordinated
and
integrated
Direction
supervision
and
control
of
all
city
of
Ithaca
departments,
boards
commissions
and
other
agencies
to
protect
Health,
Care,
Professionals
and
persons
lawfully,
seeking
receiving
or
assisting
others.
Who
are
seeking
or
receiving
gender
affirming
care?
W
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
of
Ithaca
endorses
and
supports
the
the
New
York
state
law
protecting
access
to
gender,
affirming
care
to
minors
and
adults.
We
are
grateful
to
say,
state
senator
Leah,
Webb
and
State
Assembly
woman,
Anna
Kellis
for
co-sponsoring
this
bill
in
the
New
York
assembly.
A
X
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Robert
for
reading
that
thank
you,
members
of
council,
for
your
consideration
of
this
resolution
today.
Thank
you
in
particular
to
all
the
person
Donna
Fleming,
for
your
work
in
helping
with
rewording
and
re-drafting
this
resolution
to
to
better
address
the
situation
at
hand
and
and
and
meet
the
times
that
we
are
living
in
right
now
with
addressing
this
issue.
X
This
is
an
important
issue
to
me,
as
somebody
who
has
spoken
to
a
lot
of
folks
within
the
queer
Community
throughout
the
city
of
Ithaca,
somebody
who
has
queer
relatives
and
family
and
coming
off
the
heels
of
the
the
ending
of
Roe
v
Wade,
as
as
federal
law.
I,
think
it's
important
for
us
to
all
understand
that
we
should
not
take
the
civil
liberties
and
protections
that
people
have
fought,
organized
and
died
for
for
granted
and
that
simply
because
something
is
state
or
even
federal
law.
X
That
doesn't
mean
that
that
could
be
changed
and
so
that
we
must
always
remain
Vigilant
and
that
those
of
us
at
the
local
level
who
have
great
power
within
their
local
municipality,
to
make
things
a
safe
place
for
everyone.
We
have
a
great
responsibility
to
use
that
power
for
the
betterment
of
the
people
in
our
community.
X
I
think
we
need
to
take
an
important
look
at
what's
happening
in
this
country
right
now,
nationally
with
people
talking
about
decriminalizing,
the
mere
existence
of
lgbtq
plus
people,
how
this
will
predominantly
affect
black
lgbtq
plus
people
and
and
how
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
Ithaca
a
safe
haven
for
anyone
currently
living
here
or
who
would
come
here
to
see
care
and
protection.
X
We
have
demonstrated
this
responsibility,
and
this
grace
in
the
past,
when
we
made
this
place
a
safe,
a
sanctuary
for
undocumented
residents,
when
we
made
this
place
a
sanctuary
for
for
those
trying
to
seek
and
provide
reproductive
health
care
and
now
I
hope
we
can
do
that
for
those
trying
to
seek
and
provide
gender
affirming
health
care.
So
I
appreciate
all
of
you,
considering
this
legislation
and
I
look
forward
to
making
Ithaca
safe
haven
for
our
lgbtq
plus
neighbors
and
those
who
look
out
for
them.
B
Thank
you
for
circulating
the
the
resolution
that
was
adopted
at
CA
I
have
a
procedural
question,
so
I'm
looking
to
the
two
writers
of
the
resolution,
it's
not
a
standard
to
have
a
heading
that
says,
and
finally,
that
I
think
the
statement
is
resolved,
which
is
a
declaration
of
commitment
and
I.
Do
think
that
that
last
paragraph
is
important.
B
B
A
W
Moving
now
to
5.2
approval
of
sidewalk
improvement,
district
assessments,
whereas
section
c73
of
the
city
Charter,
creates
five
sidewalk
Improvement
districts
for
the
construction
and
repair
of
sidewalk
and
provides
for
an
assessment
against
each
property
located
in
each
Sid
for
the
benefits
received
by
the
property
from
such
construction
and
repair
and
whereas
typically,
the
Board
of
Public
Works
would
recommend
Sid
assessment
work
plan
and
budget
to
Common
Council.
However,
the
BPW
is
not
able
to
make
Quorum
at
this
time
and
in
accordance
with
the
city.
W
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
common
Council
recommends,
subject
to
Amendment
and
approval
by
the
common
Council.
The
proposed
2023
Sid
budget
assessment
and
schedule
of
work
attached
here
too,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
common
Council
recommends,
including
in
the
mayor's
proposed
2024
budget,
and
to
adopt
this
2024
sidewalk
Improvement
District
budget
assessment
and
work
plan
by
local
law.
In
concert
with
the
approval
of
the
city's
2024
budget.
Iso
move.
A
W
As
we
as
we
promote
her
to
panelists
I'll,
just
I'll
just
know,
we
got
an
excellent
Public
Presentation
on
the
sidewalk
plan,
which
was
also
then
reiterated
at
City
Administration,
but
I
I
know
Peggy
is
here.
If
there
are
questions
from
colleagues
as
to
where
we
currently
stand
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Peggy.
If
there's
any
comments
or
questions
for
her
hello.
Y
Y
Did
not
come
prepared
to
make
a
presentation
or
anything
but
I
can
answer
any
questions.
Hopefully
any
any
outstanding
issues.
B
Question
with
regards
to
the
resolution,
the
statement
says
the
BPW
was
not
able
to
make
Quorum.
My
understanding
is,
the
BPW
has
not
meant.
No
agendas
have
been
put
out.
No
meetings
have
been
announced,
so
it's
not
actually
correct
that
they're
not
able
to
make
Quorum
unless
there
are
vacancies,
because
there
no
nobody
has
been
appointed
to
the
BPW.
J
B
Just
the
statement
is
incorrect.
The
BPW
has
not
met
since
2020,
so
it
is
not
true
that
they
were
not
able
to
make
Quorum
I,
don't
believe
that
the
positions
have
been
filled.
That
is
also
another
reason
not
to
make
Quorum.
But
if
you
announce
a
meeting
and
people
are
not
able
to
make
it,
then
that
would
be
a
true
statement,
but
I
will
reiterate.
The
BPW
has
not
met
since
since
2020.
B
Could
we
strike
that,
whereas
because
or
we
should
more
appropriately
say
typically,
the
Board
of
Public
Works
would
recommend
the
Sid
assessment
work
plan
and
budget
to
come
in
Council
has,
however,
the
BPW
has
not
met
since
2020.
Z
So
I'll
just
note:
if
I
may,
I
I
do
recommend
making
some
mention
of
the
fact
that
BPW
won't
be
able
to
meet
at
this
time
in
order
to
vote
on
this,
because
the
process
and
I
actually
chaired
the
sidewalk
improvement
district
task
force,
they
created
this
law
and
I
also
wrote
the
legislation.
Z
Z
It's
not
essential
that
that
occurs
at
BPW
as
opposed
to
a
council,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
recognize
the
inability
of
BPW
to
meet
at
this
time.
However,
we
want
to
attribute
that
inability,
I,
think
it's
important
to
say
something
about
it
and
I
would
also
suggest,
on
a
more
nuanced
note,
that
the
question
isn't
whether
BPW
has
previously
been
able
to
meet.
Z
The
question
is
whether
they
can
meet
right
now,
and
the
answer
is
no
so
I
I
might
say
if
you're
looking
to
amend
I
might
say
something
about
the
bpw's
inability
to
to
meet
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
will
just
point
to
another
touch
point
for
the
public,
and
that
is
the
public
hearing
and
there
was
a
public
hearing.
No
indeed,.
Z
And
actually
I
should
have
said
right
in
terms
of
those
touch
points.
Just
so
folks
are
aware
of
them
right.
There
was
what
would
normally
have
been
a
BPW
late
summer
touch
point
now,
which
instead
is
a
council
touch
point
so
here
it
is,
and
then
there's
the
budget
process
and
then
there's
a
local
law
following
the
budget
process.
A
Yes
and
and
the
CA
meeting
as
well
Jorge.
X
A
Tim,
if
you
have
a
comment
to
add,
please
go
ahead.
AA
I'm
here,
but
I
lost
about
five
or
ten
seconds
as
I
went
from
whatever
I
was
to
panelists,
so
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
hear
your
question.
Jorge.
X
J
A
AA
No
I
mean
I
think
as
far
as
the
board
goes,
the
language
is
kind
of
immaterial
to
us.
I.
Think
our
point
is
the
board's
not
meeting
we
needed
to
get
through
the
process,
since
Council
has
basically
Powers
delegated
to
the
board.
If
the
board's
not
meeting
Council
can
do
those
things.
AA
However,
you
want
to
word.
It
is
fine
with
us.
We
just
want
to
end.
You
know
by
all
means
Ari
if
you
think
it's
good
to
just
be
clear,
but
we're
totally
comfortable
with
that
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
through
the
process.
It's
a
little
bit
complicated
and
you
know
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
But,
yes,
it
did
it's
a
little
awkward
too
right.
AA
We
come
to
council
to
have
Council,
recommend
this
program
to
the
mayor
to
have
her
include
in
her
budget
only
for
it
to
come
back
to
comma
Council.
When
you
vote
on
the
budget
itself,
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
funny.
You
know
little
step
we're
doing
here,
but
we'll
get
the
dance
done.
It's
going
to
be
okay
and
yeah.
However,
you
want
to
word
that
language
is
fine
with
us.
G
Just
a
quick
question:
Peggy
did
anything:
did
you
get
feedback
that
changed
the
work
plan
from
when
you
first
presented
it
or
is
it
the
same?
It.
Y
Is
the
same,
George
did
have
a
an
interesting
point
at
the
the
city
Administration
meeting
something
I
looked
into,
and
so
it
doesn't
change
the
overall
work
plan,
but
it
will
change
the
future
with
things
that
we're
considering
for
the
next
in
2025..
Those
are
the
that
was
the
only
thing
that
was
changed.
So
does
it
change
the
work
plan
itself.
Y
We
held
a
zoom
meeting
this
year
for
various
reasons
that
was
the
most
healthy,
productive
way
to
hold
the
meeting
this
year.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
again
my
my
recommendation
would
be
to
replace
the
words
the
BPW
is
not
able
to
make
Quorum
at
this
time
and
to
replace
it
with
the
BPW
has
not
met
since
2020
and
then
to
continue
and
in
accordance
with
the
city
Charter.
The
common
Council
has
oversight
Powers
over
BPW.
B
W
Sort
of
interesting
that
we've
voted
on
many
many
many
many
many
things
with
this
exact
same
language
over
the
last
two
years,
but
it's
immaterial
so
it's
friendly.
A
Okay,
I
think
the
Mover
acknowledged
that
it
is.
It
is
friendly,
I'm
interested
in
moving
us
along
Phoebe.
Did
you
have
a
comment,
a
question.
A
A
I'm
interested
in
moving
our
agenda
along
at
this
point.
It
has
passed
and
we
will
be
able
to
implement
the
sidewalk
improvement
district
program.
Thank.
Y
J
J
W
Motion
well,
maybe
not
5.3
2024,
Water
and
Sewer
Service
connection
and
design
review
rates
resolution,
whereas
the
chapter
relevant
chapter
of
the
Ithaca
City
code
authorizes
rate
adjustments,
Water
Service
connections,
sewer
rental
fees
and
special
fees,
and
whereas
staff
have
provided
recommended
rate
adjustments
for
Water
and
Sewer
Service
connection
applications
and
project
design.
Review
for
2024..
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
adopts
the
following
rate:
changes
as
of
January
1
2024,
and
the
rates
are
effective
until
changed
basic
application
for
Water
and
Sewer
Service
connection.
W
A
I
won't
just
offer
one
comment
that
these
rates
have
not
been
increased
in
approximately
four
decades.
This
is
from
the
memo
that
superintendent
Mike
Thorne
has
has
prepared.
This
is
the
problem
with
not
having
incremental
increases.
We
reach
a
point
where
the
increase
is
needed,
but
it
has
not
been
increased
for
so
long
that
there
has
to
be
a
significant
increase
as
we're
seeing
here.
Other
comments
or
questions.
A
W
5.4,
an
ordinance
amending
Ithaca,
City
code,
chapter
262
41
rates
in
terms
of
payment,
whereas
chapters
262-41
authorizes
the
determination
and
imposition
rates
and
fees
for
water,
service
connections
and
consumption,
sewer,
rental
fees,
special
fees
and
charges
for
hydrogen
service,
whereas
the
common
Council,
the
city
of
Ithaca
desires,
to
amend
that
chapter
to
include
a
fee
for
project
design
review
along
with
minor
language
changes,
be
it
ordained
and
enacted
by
the
common
Council
of
the
city
of
Ithaca.
As
follows:
section
one
details,
legislative
findings:
I
will
not
read
these
in
their
entirety.
W
Section
2
amendments
to
chapter
262
of
the
Ithaca
City
code.
The
following
portions
of
the
code
are
hereby
amended
as
follows:
the
board
shall,
from
time
to
time,
determine
and
fix
the
rates
for
Water
and
Sewer
Service
connection
and
consumption,
sewer,
rental
fees,
special
fees,
including
design,
review
and
charges
for
hydrogen
service
and
shall
establish
such
zones
and
periods
of
payment,
as
may
be
desirable.
Section
3
is
the
severability
Clause
I
will
not
read
that
section.
Four
is
the
effective
date.
I
will
not
read
that
I
move
this
resolution
as
written
I'm.
W
Colleagues,
I
will
direct
you
to
5.5
hard
copy
that
was
distributed
by
Deputy
clerk
before
our
meeting
5.5,
an
ordinance
amending
Ithaca,
City
code,
chapter
146,
5k1,
146,
30c1
and
146
38c
relating
to
certain
fees,
whereas
Ithaca
City
code
chapters
set
forth
certain
fees
for
building
plumbing
and
electrical
permits
and
inspections,
and
whereas
the
common
Council
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
desires
to
amend
those
chapters,
to
streamline
the
application
process
to
rationalize
fee
calculations,
to
authorize
Alternative
forms
of
payment
and
to
defray
the
significant
administrative
and
staff
time
costs
associated
with
conducting
inspections
and
issuing
permits.
W
Now,
therefore,
be
it
ordained
and
enacted
by
the
common
Council
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
as
follows:
Section
1,
the
legislative
findings
I,
will
not
be
reading
these
in
their
entirety.
City
staff
spends
a
lot
of
time
reviewing
these
and
the
current
structure
does
not
adequately
defray
costs.
Section
2
amendments
to
chapter
146
of
the
Ithaca
City
code,
the
following
portions
of
the
code,
or
hereby
amended
as
follows.
W
The
text
of
146
5K
1A
is
stricken
in
its
entirety
and
replaced
with
the
following.
Permit
fees
shall
be
paid
by
check
money
order
or
by
such
other
means,
as
shall
be
approved
by
the
director
of
Planning
and
Development,
or
their
designee.
A
separate
processing
fee
may
be
assessed
for
such
non-check
non-money
order,
forms
of
payment
fees
shall
be
paid
according
to
the
following
schedule.
Prior
to
the
commencement
of
permit
review,
you
see
the
sketch
fee
schedule
on
the
table
included
in
the
packet.
W
The
text
of
146
5k1b3
is
stricken
in
its
entirety
and
replaced
with
the
following
other
inspections
and
fees
related
to
building
construction
shall
be
paid
by
check
money
order
or
by
such
other
means,
as
shall
be
approved
by
the
director
of
Planning
and
Development,
or
their
designee.
A
separate
processing
fee
may
be
assessed
for
any
non-check
non-money
order,
form
of
payment
fees
shall
be
paid
according
to
the
following
schedule,
and
you
may
see
the
permit
fees
and
amendments
and
closing
fees
attached
in
the
tables.
W
W
The
text
of
146
30
c1b
is
stricken
its
entirety
and
replaced
with
the
following,
and
here
you
see
the
fees
for
renovations
and
additions.
The
text
of
146
38
C
is
amended
as
follows:
permit
fees
shall
be
paid
before
a
work
permit
is
authorized.
Permit
fees
shall
be
accepted
by
the
building
division
by
check
money
order
or
by
such
other
means,
as
shall
be
approved
by
the
director
of
Planning
and
Development,
or
their
designee.
A
separate
processing
fee
may
be
assessed
for
such
non-check
non-money
order
form
of
payment.
W
The
electrical
permit
fee
shall
be
posted
in
the
office
of
the
building
division.
You
can
see
here,
subsection
one
has
no
changes.
I
will
not
read
that
subsection
two
work
permit
fee
shall
be
set
according
to
the
schedule
filed
in
the
office
of
the
director
of
Planning
and
Development,
which
shall
be
subject
to
modification
from
time
to
time,
as
determined
by
the
director
of
planning
and
development
and
shall
be
available
for
public
inspection.
Section
3
is
severability,
Clause
I
will
not
read
section.
Four
is
the
effective
date.
W
C
W
Is
a
legislative:
this
is
a
legislative
equivalence
issue
Rob,
so
that
the
the
language
is
the
same,
but
we
are
required
and
Ari
can
jump
in
if
I
misrepresent
this,
but
we
are
required
to
show
the
sort
of
line
edits
and
Strikes
and
they
don't
always
show
up
in
in
PDF
form.
So
this
is
just
to
correct
that.
Okay,.
J
Z
Yeah,
it's
it's
necessary
to
show
the
strikethroughs.
It's
not
it's
not
a
matter
of
what
the
sort
of
equivalence
that's
about:
different
forms
of
legislation,
ordinance
versus
local
law
Etc,
but
but
that's
right,
got.
J
A
So
many
robs
Rob
feldwell.
Did
you
have
any
comments
you
wanted
to
make.
A
I
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
I
voted
against
this
in
at
the
CA
meeting,
because
the
rates
are
going
up
for
all
the
projects
except
the
most
expensive
ones.
The
biggest
projects
which
are
staying
the
same
and
Bob
gave
a
reasonable
answer
for
why
that's
happening,
but
that's
why
I
voted
against
it
and
that's
why
I'll
vote
against
it
right
now,.
C
Hold
on
where
I
had
a
question,
because.
C
Raises
the
point
that
Rob,
the
other
Rob,
made
a
good
our
point
about
why
those
rates
haven't
changed,
but
those
of
us
not
in
that
committee
meeting,
didn't
hear
them
so
I'm
curious
about
that
and
I
think
Rob
had
his
hand
up
to
do
the
same.
AB
Okay,
so
New
York,
State,
executive
law,
section
381,
Administration,
and
enforcement
of
the
New
York
State,
uniform
fire
prevention
and
building
code
and
the
New
York
State
energy
conservation
construction
code
regulates
what
the
local
municipalities
can
do
for
administration
and
enforcement
of
the
code.
AB
AB
They
certainly
do
for
the
larger
projects
of
the
larger
projects
already
bring
in
a
fee
amount
that
basically
subsidizes
our
expenses
on
those
smaller
projects.
AB
So
it
just
seems
prudent
to
incrementally
increase
our
fees
at
the
lower
level
more
in
tune
with
the
actual
expenses
incurred
and
not
to
there's
no
need
to
continue
increasing
costs
on
the
higher
larger
projects.
A
B
Can
you
reiterate
what
the
current
fee
is
for
the
smaller
projects?
I
see
that
the
proposal
is
one
percent
here.
AB
B
AB
AB
B
I
I
agree
with
my
colleague
to
well.
Basically,
when
you
have
small
building
owners
looking
to
do
small
scale
work,
it
is
going
to
be
under
the
fifty
thousand
or
a
hundred
thousand
value
to
raise
that
fee
from
point
seven
percent
to
one
percent.
You
know,
obviously
that
creates
a
disproportionate
burden
on
the
smaller
developer
who's,
just
probably
trying
to
make
an
adjustment
or
an
addition
to
their
home,
whereas,
as
you
indicated,
the
large
projects
do
subsidize
adequately.
B
The
operations
of
the
department
I
think
it's
entirely
reasonable
to
have
the
large-scale
projects
continue
to
subsidize
the
operations
of
the
department
and
give
a
break
to
the
property
owner
who's
just
looking
to
make
a
small
demolition
or
addition
was
this
discussed
at
length
at
CA
and
still
agreed
to
raise
it
from
0.7
percent
to
one
percent
on
the
small
property
owner.
AB
That
that
was
not
discussed
at
length
that
CA
as
a
as
a
point
of
reference.
If
a
project
cost
was
ten
thousand
dollars,
the
current
fee
that
a
person
would
pay
for
that
an
applicant
would
pay
would
be
seventy
dollars
with
a
proposed
change
that
ten
thousand
dollars
would
go
up
to
I.
Believe
is
point
point
nine
percent,
so
we're
looking
at
ninety
dollars
we're
going
from
seventy
dollars
to
ninety
dollars
for
the
fee.
AB
AB
It's
one
percent:
okay,
I
I
apologize,
so
it
would
go
from
seventy
dollars
to
one
hundred
dollars.
Looking
at
the
fees
that
are
assessed
by
several
municipalities,
I
I've,
compared
with
several
municipalities
around
the
region
and
our
fees
are
a
much
simpler
and
much
lower
than
many
other
municipalities.
AB
So
I
I
would
say
that
homeowners
and
people
doing
a
small
scale.
Projects
in
other
municipalities
are
already
paying
higher
fees.
Even
then,
what
is
proposed
with
this
new
scale.
B
Well,
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
have
for
the
scale
of
five
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
bring
that
to
point
seven
percent,
which
is
consistent
to
where
it
is
now
I
mean
we
are
really
trying
to
promote
the
single
family
or
homeowner
or
small
property
owner.
Try
to
support
them.
Allow
them
to
stay
in
their
home,
keep
their
costs
reasonable,
allow
them
to
make
improvements
and
amendments
to
their
buildings,
and
if
we
can
cut
them
a
little
break.
B
I
understand
that
it
doesn't
cover
the
cost,
but
it
is
definitely
equal
to
what
we
are
charging
for
a
project
of
five
million
dollars
or
greater
and
we're
giving
breaks
to
the
large
developers.
I
think
we
can
give
a
break
to
the
small
property
owner.
G
B
A
Okay
and
I
asked
for
a
vote
on
that
motion
that
was
moved
by
Cynthia
seconded
by
George.
There
were
three
in
favor
of
that
emotion,
so
the
motion
fails.
A
AB
W
A
Yeah
I
agree
that
the
controllers
report
should
come
next
and
Steve
Thayer
is
here
to
present
the
controllers
report.
AC
Good
evening,
just
a
few
items
tonight:
sales
tax,
the
2023
sales
tax
we
have
a
budget
for
2023-
is
17
million,
one
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars.
To
date
we
have
collected
nine
million
two
hundred
and
ninety
seven
thousand
dollars,
so
we're
one
point:
four
percent
ahead
of
the
same
period
of
time
of
2022.
AC
So
still
ahead,
we
were
conservative
in
our
budget
estimates
for
sales
tax,
which
is,
is
good,
so
we
are
still
within
budget.
At
this
point
in
time
we
had
a
very
strong
start
to
our
collections
of
sales
tax
early
in
the
year.
They
have
come
down
quite
a
bit
since
that
time,
so
we're
hopeful
that
they
will
again
increase
over
the
next
few
months.
AC
That
gives
us
a
CPI
to
date
for
2023
at
4.6
percent,
and
so
that
continues
its
slow
downward
drop
from
the
9.1
percent.
June
of
2022
high
point
that
that
we've
seen
so
that
continues
to
come
down.
But
of
course,
it's
driving
a
lot
of
our
city
operations
costs
much
higher.
AC
As
as
we
take
a
look
at
the
2024
budget
process,
which
is
now
in
full
swing,
just
a
few
numbers
that
we're
looking
at
it's
been
very
slow
to
get
items
in
here
that
I
need
for
the
data
to
develop
the
2024
budget,
but
they
are
slowly
coming
in
today
we
did
receive
our
New
York
State
Pension
contribution
rates
for
the
city
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
depending
on
the
tier
of
employee,
the
regular
employees,
their
contribution
rates,
the
city's
contribution
rates
for
regular
employees
will
be
anywhere
increasing
anywhere
from
19
and
a
half
percent
well
actually
18.95
to
18
and
a
half
for
19
and
a
half
percent.
AC
Excuse
me,
police
and
fire
contribution
rates
for
2024,
for
the
city
will
see
also
based
on
tier
increases
of
anywhere
from
14
and
a
half
percent
to
15.17,
so
going
much
higher
and
pension
costs
much
higher
than
the
CPI.
At
this
point
in
time
and
we're
seeing
this
across
the
board
of
higher
costs
with
all
City
operations,
I
will
say
that
when
we
start
looking
at
our
pension
costs,
we
are
starting
to
see
a
shift
from
the
tiers
where
the
longer
term
employees
are
now
retiring.
AC
So
there's
a
shift
from
that.
Those
tiers,
the
tier
fours
tier
threes
and
tiers
fours.
Those
contribution
rates
were
much
higher
and
we're
seeing
a
shift
to
the
new
as
new
employees
come
on
to
the
tier
VI
employees,
contribution
rates
which
are
are
lower.
So
that's
a
good
good
thing
for
the
city
as
we
move
and
transition
out
of
those
tiers
for
the
long-term
employees.
AC
As
far
as
health
insurance
costs,
we
continue
to
look
at
increases
in
our
premium
rates
of
anywhere
between
eight
and
eight
and
a
half
percent
for
2024
that
will
be
finalized
at
the
end
of
this
month,
I
think
I
mentioned
last
month.
Assessments
will
be
increasing
about
five
percent
for
2024.
AC
and
if
we
did
use
that
full
increase
of
five
percent,
which
remains
to
be
seen
at
this
point
in
time,
that
would
bring
in
about
a
an
additional
million
four
hundred
and
sixty
three
thousand
dollars
in
Revenue
to
the
city
coffers
and,
let's
see
I,
think
then.
Lastly,
just
a
note
was
one
of
the
speakers
earlier
was
talking
about
at
the
mou
and
I
think
a
couple
of
council
people
wanted
to
know
so
the
UPI
mou
I
will
check
on
it.
AC
I
know:
we've
had
a
number
of
contracts
slowed
by
staff
shortages
and
new
staff
as
we're
working
through
that
transition
of
new
staff
from
the
older
staff.
I
know
things
have
been
slowed
down
quite
a
bit
with
contracts,
so
we'll
be
sure
to
check
in
with
Jordan's
mou
and
hopefully
move
that
to
the
top
of
the
pile,
and
we
have
a
number
of
other
contracts
that
are
in
the
same
boat,
so
we'll
try
to
continue
to
move
those
along
as
we.
This
is
a
big
transition
for
the
city
staff
in
general.
AC
As
you
know,
we've
lost
and
will
continue
to
lose.
Some
of
the
you
know
from
retirement
some
of
the
staff-
that's
been
here
a
long
time
and
has
a
lot
of
knowledge,
and
so
it's
so
we
we
ask
that
everybody
be
patient
with
us
as
we
move
through
this
transition
period
and
I.
Think
that's
it
we'll
be
talking
in
great
detail
on
the
2024
budget
next
month.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Steve
yeah,
and
actually
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
remind
Council
that
we
will
have
a
meeting
a
special
meeting
of
council
next
Wednesday
evening,
and
that
is
when
we
will
be
talking
about
the
capital
projects
budget.
A
A
Thank
you,
Steve
yep,
all
right.
Moving
on
now
to
planning
and
economic
development
I'll
turn
it
over
to
share
Gerhart.
C
Thank
you
mayor
item.
6.1
is
a
resolution
to
request
funding
for
a
structural
evaluation
of
the
Ithaca
Gun
smokestack
I'm,
just
gonna
for
the
second
time
jump
down
to
the
I.
C
Think
it's
the
sixth,
whereas
to
remind
us
that
this
issue
has
come
before
us
previously
and
at
the
June
1
2023
meeting
Council
agreed
to
partner
with
vision,
Development
Group
to
commission
an
existing
conditions,
assessment
of
the
Ithaca
Gun
Company
smokestack
an
authorized
staff
to
work
on
a
with
a
developer,
to
provide
a
qualified
consultant
to
complete
the
work
and
whereas
vertical
access
was
identified
as
the
preferred
consultant
on
this
on
their
professional
qualifications,
as
required
required
by
the
agreement
and
the
proposed
scope
of
their
existing
conditions.
C
Assessment,
which
includes
a
thorough
documentation
of
the
smokestack
existing
condition
conditions,
identification
of
deficiencies
impacting
it's
long-term
stability
and
cost
estimates
of
any
required
repairs.
And
where
is
the
existing
conditions?
Assessment
will
cost
33,
137
or
thirty
five
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
as
outlined
in
the
test
proposal.
And
whereas
the
city
May
pay
one
half
of
the
cost
of
the
existing
conditions
assessment.
Pursuant
to
the
terms
of
the
agreement.
C
With
the
developer
and
now
therefore
it
be
it
resolve
that
City
commits
to
paying
one
half
of
the
cost
of
the
existing
conditions.
Assessment
of
the
Ithaca
Gun
Company
smokestack
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
City
allocates
an
amount
not
to
exceed
eighteen
thousand
dollars
from
existing
funds
in
the
planning
and
the
building
departments.
2023
authorized
budget
for
this
use
and
ISO
move.
C
And
I
would
note
that
Brian
McCracken
is
here.
He
also
of
course,
attached
a
memo
helping
to
explain
this
and
I'm
sure
he'd
be
willing
to
answer
any
questions.
M
Just
one
brief
comment:
in
the
time
since
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee
meeting
uhm
was
able
to
get
a
revised
quote
from
vertical
access
and
the
amount
of
the
work
is
going
to
be
slightly
less
than
what's
written
in
the
memo
and
in
their
The
Proposal.
You
had
before
you,
but
I
recommend
keeping
it
at
the
eighteen
thousand
dollars
just
for
fees.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and,
as
noted
and
as
typical,
the
resolved
reads
that
it
allocates
an
amount
not
to
exceed
eighteen
thousand,
so
it
doesn't,
it
could
certainly
be
a
lower
and
we
would
welcome
it
being
a
lower
amount.
A
M
If
vertical
access
is
able
to
complete
the
work
before
the
start
of
the
inclement
weather
and
Ithaca
they're,
they're
planning
on
it
being
around
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
the
city.
J
A
C
Okay,
moving
along
this
is
6.2
resolution
to
adopt
the
city
of
Ithaca,
distributor
and
energy
resource
plan
for
Community,
Choice,
aggregation
and
again
I'm,
just
going
to
jump
to
the
resolves
and
I
think
that'll
be
evident
in
a
second,
therefore,
be
it
resolved.
The
city
of
Ithaca
adopts
the
city
of
Ithaca
distributor
and
energy
resource
plan
for
Community
Choice
aggregation
to
complement
the
forthcoming
Tompkins
green
energy
Network
program
and
ISO
move.
C
And
I'll
just
note
that
Rebecca
is
here
and
also
we
have
a
guest
Paul
Finn.
They
have
a
short
I,
think
you're
planning
to
do
the
short
presentation,
correct
or
just
answer
questions
I.
A
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
Rebecca
for
the
memo
and
for
the
attachments,
the
slides
that
have
been
used
in
the
past
I.
Think
given
the
hour
at
the
moment,
we
will
wait
until
a
future
meeting
for
another
presentation.
Presentations
have
been
given,
of
course,
at
planning
and
economic
development
committee,
and
some
of
us
not
on
pedc,
have
also
heard
the
presentation,
which
is
very
informative,
very
thorough,
all
right,
Cynthia.
AD
At
this
point,
it's
too
early
to
tell
without
having
the
plan
in
place.
It
seems
a
little
bit
like
a
cart
before
the
horse
to
determine
an
Advisory
Group
before
having
a
program
to
advise
but
I
think
that
is
open
to
discussion.
As
far
as
who
is
appropriate
to
include
in
that
Advisory
Group
and
how
appointments
could
or
should
be
made.
B
A
Be
working
with
with
staff
on
this.
AD
I'm
sorry
I
had
this
problem
this
morning
too.
It
may
be
helpful
just
to
put
a
timeline
on
this
as
well.
Just
to
give
you
a
better
idea
that
you
have
some
breathing
room
here.
We
don't
anticipate
actually
launching
the
Der
portion
of
the
CCA
program
until
well.
After
we
have
enrolled
customers
in
the
CCA
basic,
the
sort
of
strictly
energy
procurement
part
of
the
plan.
So
we
have
some
time
to
sort
of
work
out
the
The
Kinks
and
the
details
of
including
the
CCA
Advisory
Board.
B
Okay,
so
once
the
plan
is
adopted,
will
there
be
an
RFP
for
a
selection
of
the
CCA
administrator.
AD
It
will
not
be
an
RFP,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
state
has
actually
done
a
lot
of
the
legwork
for
us
under
the
new
Public
Service
Commission
regulations.
The
PSC
basically
has
a
template
that
all
prospective
CCA
administrators
must
submit
for
approval,
and
the
PSC
is
then
responsible
for
approving
any
of
those
plans,
so
it
would
really
just
be
up
to
us
to
determine
who
is
the
administrator
that
can
best
fulfill.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
that's
good
to
know,
and
then
the
last
question
I
have
is
just
I
think
someone
something
that
was
highlighted,
but
it
it
seems
a
bit
confusing
the
in
the
presentation
and
the
preliminary
memo.
B
The
Der
does
not
include
ownership
or
maintenance
of
the
grid
right.
The
energy
distribution
will
be
covered
by
NYSEG
and
the
Der
does
not
include
the
grid,
but
the
memo
seems
to
imply
that
there
might
be
some
control
with
the
Der
in
terms
of
costs
associated
with
with
grid
upgrades
and
and
maintenance,
and
that
those
costs
were
kept
low
because
of
the
Der.
But
I.
Don't
believe
that
that's
the
case.
AD
So
there's
the
potential,
depending
on
the
respective
technology,
that
der
could
interact
with
the
grid
so
think,
like
solar
arrays,
would
definitely
interact
with
the
grid.
Because,
if
a
if
a
series
of
homes
is
connected
to
a
solar
array
but
not
connected
to
the
NYSEG
owned
and
operated
grid,
then
there's
the
potential
for
someone
to
not
have
power
when
the
sun
isn't
shining
or
at
night,
especially
if
they
don't
have
battery
storage.
AD
Certainly
with
like
electric
vehicles
and
waste
and
that
sort
of
thing,
then
there
the
grid
is
sort
of
is
sort
of
moot
the.
What
we're
talking
about
when
we're
referring
to
potentially
decreased
costs,
or
at
least
the
deferment
of
passing
on
costs
to
rate
payers
for
upgrades
to
the
grid
that
comes
from
ultimately
decreasing
the
load
that
we
are
relying
on
the
grid.
AD
For
so
if,
as
we
deploy,
say,
solar
arrays
and
we
are
decreasing
the
amount
of
electricity
that
the
entire
city
as
a
whole
is
ultimately
consuming,
which
means
that
there
is
less
strain
on
the
grid
in
terms
of
total
electricity
demand.
So
there's
less
need
to
upgrade
those
substations
or
those
Transformers.
As
a
result
of
increased
electricity
consumption,
that
answer
your
question.
B
H
Can
you
please
speak
up
because
it's
not
easy
to
hear
you,
my
my
concern
is
and
I
think
we've
gone
through
this
somewhat,
but
I
just
want
to
hear.
How
is
this
beneficial
for
low-income
people?
How
does
this
benefit
them
when
NYSEG
will
still
be
in
charge
of
the
grid
right,
I'm
I'm,
you
know
how
does
this
benefit
poor
people
and
people
who
don't
have
solar
systems
right
now
in
their
communities.
AD
Sure
so
you
know,
one
of
the
the
beauties
of
this
plan
is
that
anybody
can
potentially
invest
and
if
they're
unable
to
invest
they're
still
able
to
benefit
from
these
various
Technologies
in
the
deployment
of
these
systems.
So
it
could
be
that
a
group
of
neighbors
are
connected
to
say
a
geothermal
Loop
or
a
solar
array
that
ultimately
can
connect
other
households
that
are
not
direct
payers
into
that
investment.
AD
So
when
we
start
talking
about
micro
grids,
that's
when
we're
starting
to
build
out,
essentially
very
very
small
versions
of
the
larger
national
electric
grid
that
provide
a
certain
level
of
resiliency
to
any
customer,
regardless
of
income.
If
the
larger
grid
were
to
go
down.
So
let's
assume,
there's
a
there's
a
storm
in
Ithaca
and
the
power
goes
out
for
three
hours
and
we
have
these
series
of
micro
grids
that
are
in
operation.
Those
microgrids
can
flip
on
and
they
can
act
independently
of
the
grid
so
that
people
can
still
retain
power
in
their
homes.
AD
Even
though
NYSEG
is
down,
so
it
provides
a
certain
level
of
resiliency
for
both
investors
and
non-investors.
So
there
can
be.
There
are
two
different
I
guess:
criteria
of
participants
in
this
program.
One
is
a
user
which
does
not
pay
for
investment
in
a
technology
but
still
benefits
from
the
actual
deployment
of
a
project,
and
then
there
are
investors
which
are
paying
that
additional
fee
to
to
receive
a
monthly
dividend
as
a
result
of
the
benefits
of
that
project.
X
All
right,
thank
you
again
for
all
of
your
work
and
and
comments
on
this
Rebecca.
A
question
I
have
as
a
follow-up
sort
of
indirectly
connected
to
me.
Miss
alter
person.
Brown's
question
is:
do
you
see
a
potential
role
for
existing
not-for-profits
or
local
community
organizations
to
help
with
trying
to
connect
different
communities
to
a
this
information
and
be
potentially
to
help
with
like
investments
into
this,
so
that
they
can?
X
AD
The
way
that
this
plan
was
very
intentionally
structured
is
that
it's
Grassroots
and
Community
Driven
in
nature,
so
we
don't
actually
have
to
rely
on,
say
traditional
marketing
campaigns
that
we
can
instead
rely
on
community
organizations
that
already
have
connections
to
Residents
and
can
relay
information
in
a
way
that
really
resonates
with
those
residents,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
craft
a
marketing
strategy
that
speaks
to
everybody.
We
can
have
multiple
different
strategies
that
are
really
intentionally
cultivated
for
the
residents
that
they
will
be
reaching.
AD
So
the
short
answer
is
yes,
absolutely
My,
Hope
Is
that
we
would
have
a
really
comprehensive
group
of
community
organizations
non-profits
and
and
trusted
allies
in
the
community.
That
would
help
one
get
the
word
out,
but
also
help
sort
of
do
some
of
the
I
use
the
term
hand-holding
a
lot,
but
I
think
it
I
think
it
is
accurate
here,
a
lot
of
the
hand-holding.
That
is
that's
that's
really
needed
to
help.
People
understand
what
this
program
is
and
what
the
benefits
are
to
individuals
and
to
the
community
at
Large.
X
That's
that's
reassuring
to
hear.
Thank
you
just
a
quick
follow-up.
Are
we
too
early
in
the
process
right
now
to
have
a
short
list
of
potential
prospective
organizations
to
sort
of
fit
this
role,
or
do
we
have
plans
to
sort
of
create
that
once
you
know
assuming
this
resolution
passes?
AD
AD
I
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
start
thinking
about
that
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
certainly
would
welcome
any
guidance
from
Council
as
to
who
should
be
included
on
any
Outreach.
As
we
start
to
really
think
about
rolling
out
this
program.
But
yeah
I
think
that'll
be
I'm
an
envisioning
sort
of
a
list
that
is
continuously
growing.
J
AD
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
roles
of
the
future
CCA
administrator
will
be
to
identify
lenders
that
can
provide
joint
loans
to
groups
of
investors,
so
groups
of
neighbors
that
choose
to
invest
in
a
given
technology
and
the
vision
there
is
that
these
would
be
available
without
the
need
for
a
credit
check
which
I
think
satisfies
your
point
a
little
bit,
but
I
would
certainly
be
open
to
to
further
discussion
if
there
are
other
ideas
of
how
to
make
this
program
more
accessible
to
all.
Residents
of
our
community.
Z
Thank
you
yeah,
just
very
briefly,
Rebecca
mentioned
earlier
that
there's
a
sizable
timeline
between
now
and
when
this
element
would
actually
roll
out
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
within
and
she
actually
said
that
would
be
time
to
iron
out
the
Kingston
system.
Z
So
I
just
want
to
note
that
some
of
those
kinks
in
the
system
will
include
identifying
the
legal
Vehicles
by
which
these
so-called
cooperatives
would
actually
function
for
for
creating
some
of
the
Der
resources
and
and
that
that
potentially
could
prompt
some
minor
adjustments
later
in
the
process.
Nothing
I
think
too
major,
but
it
might
not
even
need
any
so
just
want
to
put
that
out.
There.
AD
A
We'll
now
move
on
to
7.1,
this
is
new
business
or
member
filed.
7.1
is
actually
a
continuation
of
a
vote
that
was
taken
by
council
at
the
August
9th
meeting.
This
is
regarding
Council
and
mayoral
salaries,
Robert
for.
W
This
item
I
will
be
recusing
myself
for
conflict
of
interest
or
perceived
conflict
of
interest.
Thank.
L
A
Let
me
identify
the
key
points
in
this,
seeing
as
council
did
have
a
lengthy
discussion
on
August,
9th
and
voted
on
the
amounts
that
you
see
in
this
local
law.
So
just
to
remind
Council
annual
salaries
of
council
and
the
mayor
were
adjusted
in
January
2016..
A
A
The
city
is
undertaking
a
transition,
as
we
all
know,
to
city
manager,
form
of
government,
Council
manager,
form
of
government
Council
desires
to
budget
for
an
established
salary
changes,
adjustments
in
2024
at
the
levels
of
seventeen
thousand
and
ninety
one
dollars
per
council,
member
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
mayoral
compensation,
and
this
will
mean
a
change
in
amendment
to
chapter
107
of
the
city
code
in
order
to
effectuate
these
amended
salaries,
and
once
again,
these
salaries
were
discussed
and
approved
at
a
special
meeting
of
counsel
on
August
9th.
A
Z
G
E
C
B
A
To
talk
about
sure,
if
you
wanted
to
text
him,
that
would
be
great
we're
now
moving
on
to
7.2.
This
also
is
an
item
that
Council
began.
A
discussion
of
on
August,
9th
and
I
will
just
point
out
that
7.2,
a
and
I'll
turn
this
over
to
City
attorney
Levine
momentarily.
This
will
be
a
procedural
vote,
because
this
local
law
will
need
to
be
laid
on
the
table
and
that
final
vote,
then
on
7.2,
a
the
final
vote
will
occur
at
the
October
4th
meeting
of
council.
Z
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
that's
right!
So
what
that
means
is
that
I
would
encourage
Council
to
view
tonight
as
your
final
opportunity
to
make
any
amendments
or
changes
to
this
local
law,
because
once
it
gets
laid
on
the
table,
any
further
amendments
would
prevent
it
from
actually
receiving
its
final
vote
at
the
October
council
meeting
and
would
delay
that
final
vote
to
a
subsequent
date.
Z
W
I
missed
the
very
beginning
of
this,
but
presuming
we're
thank
you.
Ari
presuming
we're
offering
prospective
edits
I
will
again
offer
an
amendment
proposed
motion
to
change
sub
section
c
sub
section
one.
The
council
shall
adopt
by
affirmative
vote
of
a
majority
of
its
members.
W
I
have
stated
my
reasons
at
a
couple
meetings
now
so
I'll.
Just
in
the
interest
of
time,
say.
I
I
make
that
motion
and.
W
A
W
W
Yes,
it's
so:
oh
yes,
okay,
yeah,
yeah,
bottom
of
page
four,
section
c,
C1
start
section
starts
at
the
bottom
of
page
four,
but
actually
the
relevant
sections
on
page
five,
and
it's
that
after
the
one
it
says
the
council
shall
by
affirmative
vote.
Okay.
J
A
All
right
George
did
you
want
to
make
a
motion
at
this
point.
B
J
A
Edits
people
wish
to
make
it
is
getting
late.
I
do
want
us
to
move
through
this,
and,
as
Ari
mentioned,
it
will
be
very
helpful
for
a
final
vote
recognizing
this
as
a
procedural
vote.
But
a
final
vote
tonight,
Donna.
E
Email
about
this
today
and
now
I
have
to
find
it.
Okay,
it's
to
see
a
page
three.
The
city
manager
shall
have
the
following
duties
and
authority
to
appoint
the
officer's
department,
has
deputies
specified
in
the
charter,
blah
blah
blah,
including
without
limitation,
a
deputy
City
Manager
for
public
safety.
Mike
I
have
two
questions
about
that.
Why
is
the
Deputy
city
manager?
E
Why
is
this
position
specifically
called
out
in
this
Clause,
when
no
other
positions
are
specifically
called
out
in
this
Clause?
That's
one
question:
the
other
question
is
does
including
this
mean
that
the
city
manager
must
hire
a
deputy
City
Manager
for
Public
Safety,
because
my
hope
is
certainly
that
in
next
year's
common
council's
wisdom
they
won't.
Z
Yeah
I
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
taking
your
second
question.
First
I,
it's
clear
that
this
Clause
would
not
bind
the
city
manager's
hands
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
filling
a
vacancy.
But,
to
your
point
the
idea,
if
common
Council
were
to
seek
to
not
fill
this
position,
which
is
the
question
that
I
believe
you
just
asked,
it
would
be
more
complicated
to
have
it
explicitly.
J
Z
B
So
Council
created
a
committee
of
council
for
the
implementation
of
reimagining,
the
Public
Public
Safety.
One
of
the
recommendations
that
Council
had
approved
in
2001
was
civilian
oversight
over
the
police
department.
Recognizing
that
right
now
the
civilian
oversight
over
the
police
department
is
the
mayor.
B
The
council
chose
not
to
restructure
the
police
department,
With
a
Civilian
commissioner
over
the
police
department,
or
that
would
oversee
the
chief
of
police,
so
the
city
manager
has
the
authority
Council
through
the
Committee
of
council
and
Council,
recognized
that
that
oversight
should
be
held
by
the
deputy
city
manager.
Acting
on
behalf
of
the
city
manager
that
Deputy
city
manager
would
be
the
person,
the
civilian
that
would
oversee
the
police
department.
B
Our
department
of
superintendent
of
Public
Works,
our
HR
Director,
all
of
our
department
heads
are
mentioned
specifically
as
appointed
I
believe
previously
by
the
mayor,
but
now
by
the
city
manager.
So
this
individual
is
not
mentioned
elsewhere,
but
is
mentioned,
would
be
mentioned
in
the
charter,
similar
to
other
individuals
who
have
oversights
over
departments.
Z
So,
and
to
answer
Donna's
question
on
that
count:
a
little
bit
further,
which
I
realized
I
didn't
do
a
moment
ago.
Sorry
I
guess
two
points.
One
is
department,
heads
and
and
similar
are
called
out
as
a
Pointe
fees
in
section
C5
C4
of
the
city
Charter,
which
does
mention
that
those
are
city
manager
appointments.
So
it's
not
that
they
don't
exist
in
the
charter,
as
Ed
mentions
already.
I
do
believe
that
this
particular
Clause.
Z
Z
That
could
be
an
alternative
approach
to
the
matter,
but
if
a
majority
of
council
and
I
have
no
idea
that
a
majority
shares
shows
your
viewer
not
Donna,
but
if
a
majority
of
Council
in
fact
wanted
to
maximize
flexibility
to
not
fill
that
position,
which
is
what
I
hear
you
asking
to
leave
with
flexibility,
then
I
agree.
I
would
I
agree
with
your
I'm
suggestion
that
it
not
be
included
if
that's
council's
objective.
A
H
I
I
think
I'm
I'm
agreeing
with
Donna
and
because
I'm
trying
to
really
understand
why
this
position
has
to
be
singled
out
kind
of
that's
what
it's
feeling
like
me
and
I,
don't
know,
maybe
I'm
wrong.
Maybe
you
can
clear
it
up
for
me.
No
I'm
just
teasing,
but
yes,
I
need
any
more
clarity.
Yeah.
A
Did
you
have
your
hand
up?
No,
no
George.
I
I,
like
the
idea
of
having
flexibility
from
the
get-go,
one
of
the
criticisms
of
this
Deputy
city
manager
position
was
that
it
it
made
the
public
safety
top
heavy
in
terms
of
salaries,
and
the
city
manager
in
fact
will
be
in
charge
of
all
departments,
including
the
police
department
and
all
the
other
Public
Safety
departments.
I
The
reason
for
including
a
deputy
city
manager
was
considered
to
be
part
of
their
role,
would
be
community
outreach,
particularly
in
the
black
and
brown
community,
and
that
may
prove
to
be
valuable.
I
It
may
prove
that
the
city
manager
can
do
that
work
themselves.
I
So
I'm
not
saying,
let's
eliminate
the
deputy
city
manager
position,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
if,
if
things
get
better
and
more
streamlined-
and
we
don't
need
the
position
anymore,
we
should
have
the
flexibility
to
not
not
fund
it.
H
Because
that's
what
it
starts
like
it
sounds
like
let's
be
flexible
right
and
that
again
is
putting
reimagining
Public
Safety
at
a
risk.
I
thought
we
agree
that
the
deputy
managing
Deputy
city
manager
would
be
over
reimagining,
Public
Safety,
true
true,
and
that
means
that
person
will
be
working
also
with
with
CJC
the
unarmed
right
so
like
I'm,
so
I'm
I'm
a
little
confused
here
like
what
do
we
mean
by
if
they
may
not
be
needed
in
the
future,
like
where's,
that
coming
from
that
things
will
get
better.
A
J
E
Just
it,
oh,
yes,
thank
you
George,
yes,
I
did
not
want
to
get
us
into
a
substantive
discussion
of
this
particular
of
the
Deputy
City
Manager
for
Public
Safety.
What
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
I
don't
know
why
I
don't
think
that
one
particular
position
should
be
specified
in
this
Clause
that
says
that
the
manager
is
going
to
appoint
officers,
Department
deputies,
blah
blah
blah
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
specifically
name
this
position
in
this
Clause.
It
can
be
described
elsewhere
in
the
charter.
I.
Think,
if
that's
the
end,
thank
you.
C
C
So
we
don't
need
to
make
it
easier
in
this
regard,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
more
elegant
solution
to
remove
it
from
this
particular
clause
and
I
and
suggest
what
I
think
Ari
said
earlier,
which
is
to
put
it
into
the
part
of
the
charter
that
talks
about
all
the
other
positions
that
are
at
this
level,
so
so
I
think
the
intent
is
to
preserve
it,
as
is
so
with
that
change.
So
my
two
cents.
G
I
was
gonna,
make
that
exact
same
point.
I.
Think
that's
fine
Don
suggestion
is
fine,
but
I'm
only
okay
with
it,
because
he
made
a
commitment
to
the
community
that
we
would
create
this
position
so
I'm.
Only
okay
with
does
change.
If
I'm
gonna
move
to
amend
the
amendment.
To
also
add
an
amendment
to
C4
a
to
add
Deputy
city
manager
of
Public
Safety
to
the
existing
list
of
department
heads,
you
mean
C5,
C4,.
A
G
Z
Yes,
and
and
I
would
suggest
that,
to
the
extent
the
council
wants
to
go
in
that
direction,
you
may
want
to
consider
doing
it
in
C5
c4b,
because
for
a
is
officers
who
serve
as
the
heads
of
their
respective
departments,
this
person
is
actually
a
member
of
the
city
manager's
office
and
therefore
not
the
head
of
a
separate
department,
but
if
you
put
them
into
b
b
as
officer
officers
who
are
appointed
by
the
city
manager,
with
approval
of
common
counsel
to
a
specific
Department
in
this
case,
that
department
is
the
office
of
the
city
manager.
Z
A
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
before
Cynthia
I'll
turn
to
you
in
a
moment.
So
Donna
has
made
an
amendment.
George
has
seconded
ducks
in
you
have
suggested
amending
Donna's,
Amendment
and
I
just
want
to
first
turn
to
Donna
to
ask
if
that
is
friendly.
E
E
E
A
Okay,
now
Cynthia.
J
Z
B
J
E
J
Z
W
Officers
who
are
appointed
by
the
city
manager,
with
the
approval
of
common
Council
to
a
specific
Department
City
Chamberlain,
is
appointed
to
the
office
of
the
city
controller
Building
Commissioner
has
appointed
to
the
Department
of
planning,
building
and
development.
Deputy
City
Manager
for
Public
Safety
has
appointed
to
the
office
of
the
city
manager.
Z
Agree
and
I
and
I
then
just
want
to
note
I
think
that
all
makes
sense
if
you're
going
in
that
direction.
The
next
step
is
to
note
that
section,
two
of
the
local
law-
that's
in
front
of
you
tonight,
is
specifically
targeted
at
section
C12
of
the
city
Charter
right.
Z
This
is
confusing
because
there's
sections
of
the
local
law,
which
in
turn
are
amending
section
numbers
which
are
totally
different
of
the
city
Charter
itself,
so
I
would
suggest
that
the
way
to
achieve
dachshund's
objective,
if
that
is
where
council's
going
is
to
create
a
new
section,
three
of
the
local
law
that
says
that's
local
law,
also
here
by
a
men's
section,
C5
c4b
of
the
city
Charter,
to
read
as
follows,
and
you
know,
as
that
class
is
that
fit
with
the
objective.
Z
Of
the
local
law
yeah
again,
you
know
if
I
know,
if
there's
a
majority
of
council
that
wants
to
do
that,
I
can
then
you
know
as
I
prepare
something
to
lay
on
the
table,
go
ahead
and
achieve
achieve
that
using
the
language
that
you
just
stated.
A
And
that
passes
that
change
passes
10-0.
A
B
Cynthia
I
knew
that
Ari
responded
to
the
question
with
regards
to
the
city
manager
of
fixing
salaries.
A
question
was
raised
in
public
comment.
Could
you
describe.
Z
Sure
so
I
think
the
response
I
I,
don't
think
my
response
has
changed
since
the
last
public
meeting,
where
we
discussed
this
but
happy
to
reiterate
what
I
said
and
I
believe
what
I
had
said
was
that
the
City
Charter
already
currently
vests
The
Identical
power.
Z
E
A
Have
in
terms
of
the
local
law?
Yes
got
it
all
right,
double
check
that
we
do
have
still
7.2
B
and
that's
the
template
employment
agreement,
and
that
may
be
where
some
of
the
additional
items
that
have
been
discussed
in
the
past
will
come
up
again.
A
All
right
do
we
need
a
roll
call
vote
on
this.
Z
Z
A
Z
Sure
so
the
template
employment
agreement,
as
you
can
see
and,
as
you
know,
is
a
res-
is
you
know
legislatively
speaking
as
a
resolution,
not
a
local
law.
Therefore
it
can
receive
a
final
vote
tonight
if
that's,
where
Council
wants
to
go
with
it
and
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
say
that
the
folks
working
on
recruiting
a
city
manager
and
particularly
including
Ian,
Coyle
I,
would
recommend
getting
each
of
these
pieces
settled
earlier
rather
than
later,
so
that
we
can
finish
out
the
recruitment
process.
Z
J
W
And
and
I'm
I'm
aware
of,
but
just
for,
like
you
know,
for
the
public
benefit
as
well
as
Cynthia
has
said
before
you,
as
you
just
said,
we
can
vote
on
this
tonight,
which
also
means
that
this
doesn't
need
to
be
laid
on
the
table,
because
it's
just
a.
Z
So
this
means
that
it
will-
and
it
actually
says
right
at
the
end
of
the
resolved
there,
for
it,
which
I'm
now
having
trouble
pulling
up
quick
enough
here,
but
it
says
at
the
end
I
remember
writing
it
there
that
it
says
that
once
a
candidate
has
been
recruited
to
be
city
manager,
council's
objective
would
be
that
an
employment
contract
that
closely
resembles
is
essentially
the
wording
there.
I
forget
the
precise
words
that
we
put
there
that
closely
resembles
this
template.
Z
Agreement
would
be
entered
into
with
that
person.
So
there
may
there
would
be
a
subsequent
vote
of
the
common
council
at
that
time
for
a
particular
employment
agreement
with
that
particular
candidate.
Once
they're
selected.
A
W
W
So
forgive
me
for
making
you
repeat
yourself,
page
seven
performance,
evaluation,
section,
seven,
subsection
d,
I
believe
we
had
talked
about
saying
that
the
council
and
its
members,
including
the
mayor,
shall
not
publicly
or
shall
not
comment
negatively
we're
going
to
put
the
word
publicly
in
there,
because
we
were
we've
sort
of
reflected
on
the
fact
that
there
is
like
a
need
to
be
able
to
privately
have
those
conversations
as
per
our
oversight
responsibilities
as
a
body
am
I,
remembering
that
incorrectly.
Z
W
Yes,
correct
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
say
we
had
reached
a
definitive
conclusion
I'm.
What
I
meant
to
say
was
right
that
and
and
I
thought,
because
I
had
asked
you.
You
said:
if
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
that,
we
would
have
to
change
it
here.
Right,
yeah,.
G
X
Resolve
that
the
attached
template
employment
agreement
is
approved
for
purposes
of
facilitating
the
hiring
process
for
a
city
manager
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
upon
successful
recruitment
of
a
candidate
for
city
manager,
the
mayor
will
bring
forward
a
resolution
to
approve
the
candidate
and
their
employment
agreement.
In
closing,
in
close
keeping
with
the
attached
template
and
I
move
as
written.
A
A
A
W
A
quick
comment:
I
Heard
George's
comment
about
five
years
being
a
long
time.
I
agree.
W
But,
as
the
mayor
pointed
out
at
our
last
meeting,
it
is
stipulated
as
such
that
it
is
not
to
exceed
five
years
and
Council
May
set
a
shorter
period,
so
I
I
still
think
you
know
having
the
the
my
concerns
around
that
are
I,
think
assuaged
by
both
the
periodic
performance
reviews
and
then
the
what
I
believe
is
appropriate
threshold
for
termination
of
a
simple
majority.
A
Okay,
duxton.
G
W
That
we
insert
the
word-
you
know
it
word
publicly.
So
many
pages,
thank
you
George!
Thank
you
Chris!
So
yes,
on
page
seven,
subsection
d,
the
council
and
its
members
shall
not
publicly
comment
negatively
on
the
city,
manager's
work
performance
or
make
allegations
of
corruption
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
Z
Z
J
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
you
know,
as
I
want
to
thank
Ari
for
all
of
his
help
on
this,
as
well
as
the
the
local
law
and
to
reiterate
what
he
mentioned,
and
that
is,
we
want
to
be
actively
moving
forward
with
the
recruitment
of
the
first
city
manager
and
I
will
just
report
that
there
is
some
promising
feedback
from
Ian
Coyle
our
consultant.
He
is
engaging
in
conversations
with
potential
candidates
so
that
that
is
encouraging,
and
this
will,
of
course
be
helpful
in
that
process.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
7.3.
W
You
mayor
this
is
a
member
filed
resolution
to
adopt
the
pro-hazing
communities
designation,
whereas
the
city
of
Ithaca
believes
the
lack
of
housing
for
New,
York,
State
residents
of
all
ages
and
income
levels
negatively
impacts,
the
future
of
New
York
State's,
economic
growth
and
Community
well-being,
and
whereas
the
housing
crisis
has
negative
effects
at
regional
and
local
levels.
We
believe
that
every
Community
must
do
their
part
to
contribute
to
housing
growth
and
benefit
from
the
positive
impacts.
W
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
of
Ithaca,
in
order
to
take
positive
steps
to
alleviate
the
housing
crisis,
adopts
the
pro-housing
communities
pledge
which
will
endeavor,
which
will
have
us
Endeavor
to
take
the
following
important
steps:
streamlining
permitting
of
multi-family
housing,
affordable
housing,
accessible
housing,
accessory
dwelling
units
and
Supportive
Housing.
Two
adopting
policies
that
affirmatively
further
fair
housing.
W
W
The
one
of
the
benefits
of
opting
into
this
allows
municipalities
to
receive
preferable
scoring
on
some
of
their
New
York
State
Grant
applications
and
several
of
those,
including
the
dri,
are
up
before
the
end
of
this
month,
and
so
I
thought
it
was
timely
for
us
to
do
this
and
as
a
community
that
is
already,
as
the
mayor
pointed
out,
via
email
I,
think
it's
very,
very
worthwhile
emphasizing
or
the
city
staff.
W
Rather
excuse
me,
you
know
we
we've
I,
think
exceeded
a
lot
of
the
the
aspirational
targets
that
the
governor
has
set
for
Upstate
communities,
but
I
think
this
also
sends
a
really
strong
message
that
we
are
continued.
Have
continued
commitment
here,
I
think
it
provides
clear
guidance
to
the
you
know
the
the
next
Administration
with
the
city
manager
that
this
is
a
priority
for
us
and
I
would
note
that
there
are
some
other
municipalities
that
also
qualify
for
this
designation
that
are
adopting
resolutions
as
an
additional
sort
of
emphasis.
D
I
just
know
that
there
was
at
least
one
city
department
head
who
said
that
she
needed
time
to
see
if
this
would
have
any
implications
for
their
Department.
Have
you
heard
any
other
feedback
is
I
mean?
Is
this
going
to?
If
we
does,
this
have
implications
for
City
staff.
That
I
may
not
be
aware
of.
W
As
we
move
down
the
line
towards
the
implementation
of
policies,
certainly
we'd
want
to
move
sort
of
hand
in
hand
with
City
staff.
At
this
stage,
the
resolution
is
really
a
a
a
pledge
to
pursue
those
policies
and,
while
will,
while
likely
to
be
integrated
in
future,
Grant
applications
presently
are
not
bound
to
Any
Given
timeline
and
so
certainly
to
your
to
I.
W
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
7.3.
H
I
think
I
mentioned
this
when
earlier,
how
is
this
going
to
again
help
individuals
who
have
been
pushed
out
of
this
community?
How
is
that
going
to
help
to
bring
them
back
to
the
community.
W
Great
question:
Phoebe
I
know
we
had
a
brief
email
exchange
about
this.
This
again,
as
a
pledge
for
our
efforts,
I
think
the
way
we
will
I
think
kind
of
the
Christmas
point.
The
way
we
will
realize
some
of
those
goals
is
in
the
design
of
substantive
policy,
and
so
we
we
need
to
incorporate
that
and
the
points
that
other
members
of
the
public
raised
today.
Public
comment
into
I
think
a
robust
housing
strategy
going
forward
and
nothing
in
this
contradicts
that
goal.
H
My
next
question
is:
does
this
include?
Maybe
we
talk
a
lot
about
homelessness
houselessness,
but
we
don't
talk
about.
We
have
one
shelter
in
this
community.
I
have
a
some
people
in
my
community
right
now
who
is
over
there?
They
can't
stay
in
the
shelter
because
they
had
180
day
sanction
180
days
will
bring
them
out
in
the
streets
till
November.
W
Thank
you,
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
specifics
of
that
example
that
you
use
to
illuminate
your
point,
but
I
would
know
again
among
the
things
that
are
identified
here
is
a
commitment
to
that
Supportive
Housing,
which
I
think
is
crucial
to
both
at-risk
populations
and
those
transitioning
out
of
being
unhoused.
H
My
my
concern
is
more
about
having
another
building
for
people
that
do
not
have
to
worry
that
that
can
come
out
of
the
Jungle
in
different
places.
Is
that
included
in
monies
with
this
like
like
build
another
shelter
kind
of
like?
Is
that
involved.
W
I
would
oh
yeah
I
would
just
quickly
say
that,
like
certainly
if
you're,
if
you're
gesturing
towards
like
we
could
absolutely
incorporate
something
like
that
into
a
grant
proposal.
E
A
B
Bit
yes,
so
this
resolution,
whereas
three
Municipal
owners
of
the
Ithaca
area
wastewater
treatment
facility,
the
city
of
Ithaca,
town
of
Ithaca
and
town
of
Dryden,
collectively
referred
to
as
the
municipal
owners,
are
considering
approval
of
the
installation
of
two
new
variable
refrigerant
air
flow.
B
Source
heat
pump
systems
in
the
administration
building
at
the
Ithaca
area,
wastewater
treatment
facility,
I'll
just
call
it
the
facility,
whereas
the
city
of
Ithaca,
on
behalf
of
the
municipal
owners
plans
to
apply
for
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
Economic
Development
incentive
for
the
heat
pump
project
from
an
NYSEG
RG
and
economic
development
incentive
program.
And
whereas
City
staff
recommends
that
the
municipal
owners
use
block
power
LLC
to
assist
the
city
and
its
application
now,
therefore
be
resolved.
B
That
common
Council
approves
the
use
of
block
power
LLC
to
assist
the
city
of
Ithaca
in
its
application.
On
behalf
of
the
municipal
owners
and
authorizes
the
mayor
to
sign
a
letter
of
agreement
with
block
power
for
its
services,
subject
to
the
approval
of
the
City
attorney
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
net
Economic
Development
incentive
received
by
the
city
be
deposited
into
the
city
of
Ithaca
joint
activity
fund
for
the
Ithaca
area,
wastewater
treatment,
facility,
expenditures
and
ISO
move.
B
Provide
a
little
bit
of
background
in
August
Council
approved
a
series
of
Maintenance
and
repairs
and
improvements
for
the
wastewater
treatment
facility.
This
pertains
to
one
of
those.
Basically,
there
are
economic
incentives
that
the
deadline
is
September
13th.
It
expires
on
the
14th
we
want
to
get
that
in,
but
we
need
to
identify
the
city
to
be
able
to
enter
into
that
agreement
with
block
power
so
that
they
can
apply
for
the
incentives
that
would
reduce
our
cost
by
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
W
A
W
Mayor,
thank
you
for
that
overview.
Cynthia
I
think
that
broadly
sounds
good
love,
saving
money
I,
just
my
only
question
is
I
guess,
potentially
Ferrari
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
competitive
procurement
process.
That
needs
to
be
done
for
something
like
this.
Z
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
good
question
and
I
would
imagine
that
our
either
our
water
and
sewer
folks
or
Cynthia
on
behalf
of
SJC
may
have
some
more
background
on
how
this
point
was
reached.
I
wasn't
part
of
the
process
for
getting
to
this
point.
Z
No
applying
for
the
incentive
is
fine,
but
I
might
perhaps
I'm
misunderstanding
is
this
about
actually
installing
the
heat
pumps
or
is
it
no?
This.
Z
Into
the
details
yeah,
so
that's
fine,
there's
no
competitive
issue,
then
because
that's
Professional
Services
and
it
doesn't
require
any
competitive
bidding
right.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
E
So
is
block
power
getting
a
fee
for
doing
this
work.
B
Believe
that
they
will
still
receive
the
fee
for
their
Professional
Services
of
applying
for
the
incentive.
Z
And
I
should
actually
be
particularly
precise
in
the
answer
that
I
just
gave
a
moment
ago,
in
order
to
be
a
little
bit
more
precise
they're.
If
there
were
not
a
particular
time.
Exigency
like
this,
which
there
clearly
is
because
there's
seven
days
left,
City
policies
would
require
in
the
ordinary
course
that
we
put
out
an
RFB
first
request
for
proposals
and
before
selecting
the
vendor,
who
would
provide
the
Professional
Services.
Z
But
under
this
circumstance
it
will
not
violate
City
policy
to
do
it
in
a
short
turnaround
time
as
necessary
without
the
RFP.
A
G
So,
if
we're
reading
the
contract
rate,
it's
five
percent,
if
we
win,
says
10
grand
and
it's
1500,
if
we
don't
get
it,
which
seems
fine
as
a
consultant,
if
they're
helping
us
but
I
just
want
to
make
clear
what
it
is
that
block
power
is
bringing
why
we
need
them
well,
we
need
to
partner
or
should
partner
with
them
to
apply
for
this
grant,
as
opposed
to
just
doing
it
ourselves
or
the
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
doing
it
themselves.
I
should
say.
B
A
So
there
are
no
hesitations
that
I'm
hearing
from
any
legal
perspective,
Jorge
and
then
Donna
I.
X
A
Rebecca,
did
you
have
additional
information
that
you
would
like
to
supply
for
this
member
filed
resolution
and
I
know
it
wasn't
intentional
for
it
to
come
very
late,
but
I
know
that
I
received
it
at
six
o'clock
tonight.
So
yeah.
AD
Sorry,
I
haven't
actually
seen
the
resolution
itself,
so
I,
don't
know
the
details,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
about
block
power
about
the
services
that
they
provide,
the
incentives
that
are
available
and
any
Clarity
on
our
relationship
with
block
power.
If
it's
helpful.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Donna
did
you
have
a
question.
E
Yeah
I'm
just
really
uncomfortable
voting
on
a
contract
with
a
firm
I
mean
they're
familiar
to
us
at
the
last
minute.
Like
this
I
guess,
I
I
do
have
faith
so
Scott
Gibson
recommended
this
and
Susan
Brock.
B
Scott
Gibson,
when
we
were
talking
about
the
projects
Gibson
brought
in
block
power,
to
talk
about
their
support
that
they
provide
in
order
to
apply
for
the
incentive,
okay
and
work
with
Danforth.
B
Okay.
With
regards
to
the
design
of
the
project
Rebecca,
can
you
clarify
the
relationship
that
the
city
has
with
block
power?
Sure.
AD
So
we
have
now
I,
guess
formal
Allegiance
in
the
sense
that
we
are
not
required
to
use
block
power.
However,
they
do
help
with
the
management
of
projects
that
otherwise
would
take
pretty
significant
staff
time.
AD
They
also
are
responsible
for
filing
any
paperwork,
and
this
is
this
is
true
of
of
any
customer,
not
necessarily
just
the
city,
so
they
can
handle
all
of
the
back
and
forth
between,
in
this
case,
the
utility
who
is
providing
the
specific
incentive
that
that
Cynthia
mentioned
and
excuse
me,
the
other
thing
I
think
worth
mentioning
here
is:
oh
gosh.
AD
Can
you
guys
hear
me
still,
hopefully,
okay
good?
The
other
thing
worth
mentioning
here
is
given
the
fact
that
there
are
three
municipalities
that
are
are
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
work.
I
think
the
program
manager
or
in
a
more
simplified
term,
I
guess
a
general
contractor
here
to
manage
those
relationships,
and
they
also
bid
out
any
contract
that
they
have.
So
it's
not
actually
block
power,
contractors
that
are
going
in
and
removing
HVAC
equipment
and
installing
heat
pumps.
A
B
I
believe
those
fees
would
come
out
of
the
the
fund
that
is
financed
by
the
three
municipalities.
E
H
I,
it
just
sounds
familiar
so
I'm
trying
to
I'm
asking
Rebecca.
Was
this
something
that
you've
done
with
Southside,
Community,
Center
or
somewhere
around
here.
AD
So
there
are
some
buildings
that
have
gone
through
this
process
right
now,
the
the
the
urgency
with
which
I
think
this
request
is
being
made
is
because
there
is
a
specific
incentive,
that's
available
to
particular
building
types
which
are
more
or
less
zoned
as
commercial
and
there's
an
an
intentional
gas
kicker
incentive.
So
any
commercial
type
building
that
is
interested
in
removing
traditional
natural
gas
equipment
and
installing
an
electric
counterpart
is
eligible
for
pretty
significant
cost
savings.
AD
So
there
have
not
been
other
municipal
buildings
that
have
gone
through
this
block
power
process,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
is
merely
that
we
haven't
created
an
energy
roadmap
which
is
part
of
another
Capital
project
that
was
funded
last
year,
so
we're
looking
at
all
of
our
buildings
really
holistically
to
see.
You
know
how
we
should
be
prioritizing
various
systems
over
others.
So
Southside
has
not
yet
gone
through
this
program,
but
there
are
other
non-profits
and
privately
owned
businesses
that
have
and
have
received
this
incentive.
Z
All
right
can
I
ask
one
more
question.
Sorry,
Rebecca,
just
to
clarify
a
couple
of
minutes
ago.
You
mentioned
the
fact
that
block
power
then
competitively
bids
out
the
work
for
the
actual
installation
and
I
just
want
to
clarify.
That's
not
part
of
the
scope
of
tonight's
vote
right.
What
now
that
I
have
had
a
chance
to
have
this
discussion
and
look
a
little
more
at
the
documents
that
would
be
a
future
separate
step
right,
not
not
contemplated
as
part
of
this
resolution.
AD
I
can't
necessarily
speak
to
what
this
particular
resolution
includes,
just
because
I
I
haven't
actually
seen
it
yet,
but
I
I
can
characterize
the
block
power
process
for
any
given
customer
that
they
would
go
through
a
negotiation
process
with
block
powers
to
the
scope
of
work,
a
potential
fee
for
that
work,
and
then
they
would
bid
out-
and
there
are
a
number
of
different
elements
that
are
taken
to
account,
including
availability
and
timeline
for
the
project
is
expected
to
be
completed
and
block
power
would
then
select
one
of
their
contractors
to
actually
do
that
work.
AD
Z
Yeah,
so
I
I
think
it
seems
clear
that
tonight's
scope
is
not
about
the
actual
bidding
out
of
the
work
of
the
physical
work.
To
be
done
of
the
construction
looks
like
Cynthia
may
have
a
response
to
that
as
well.
B
So
this
project
is
being
done
by
John
W
Danforth
company.
It
is
being
conducted
under
a
state
contract.
I
believe
I'm
pulling
this
off
from
my
memory,
I
believe
it's
there's
a
city
of
Greece
State
contract,
which
we
are
piggybacking
off
of.
Oh.
J
B
Right
and
then
the
construction
work
will
be
fall
under
the
the
state
contract
Arrangement
that
we
have,
and
the
name
is
escaping
me
at
the
moment.
But.
B
Well,
then,
that's
right
and
I
know
that
that
was
vetted
through
Susan
Brock.
Who
is
the
attorney
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
but
I
did
not
realize
that
for
Professional
Services
and
just
to
seeking
the
seek
the
incentive
that
that
would
require
an
RFP,
because
I
thought
an
RFP
was
triggered
at
twenty
thousand.
J
Z
Thanks
one
last
procedural
question,
because
again
we
got
this
less
than
an
hour
before
tonight's
meeting
started
the
resolved
and
the
resolution.
The
first
resolved
says
that
Council
approves
the
use
of
block
power
and
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
letter
agreement
with
block
power,
is
it
in
which
makes
it
appear,
but
just
to
verify.
This
is
proposing
indeed,
that
the
city
enter
into
this
agreement,
not
that
the
SJC
enter
into
the
agreement.
B
A
Okay,
any
last
questions
on
this
all
right.
Thank
you
for
reading
this
over
quickly.
As
you
mentioned,
we
received
this
just
this
evening,
all
right
all
those
in
favor
of
7.4.
B
A
The
last
hour
I
would
like
to
ask
for
approval
of
the
appointment
to
the
sustainability
and
climate
Justice
Commission
Nick
Goldsmith,
asking
that
he
be
appointed
to
that
commission
ducks
and
moves
Jorge
seconds
all
those
in
favor.
A
Go
sorry
well,
not
not
totally.
Are
there
any.
A
A
A
Is
there
a
second
George?
Thank
you
all
in
favor
of
extending
until
10
30.
I'm,
sorry
to
have
to
ask
this,
but
did
everyone
vote
in
favor
of
extending
till
10
30.?
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
skipped
over
reports.
I
I
went
to
the
county
ledge
meeting
last
night
and
they
brought
up
the
topic
of
our
land
use
policy
and
homeless.
Encampments
and
ice
spoke
to
them.
I
What
I
know
about
what
our
plans
are
and,
as
in
the
past,
I
sensed
some
members
who
wanted
very
much
to
cooperate
with
us
and
some
who
were
hesitant
and
I
made
it
clear
that
for
the
green
zone
to
work
the
way
we
want
it
to
work,
we're
going
to
need
help
from
them
financially
and
perhaps
staff
as
well.
Some
of
them
offered
that
help
and
some
were
reluctant
and
what
became
clear.
I
What
what
I
was
asked
to
bring
back
to
this
body
was
that
they
want
a
clear
plan
about
what
we
want
to
do
by
the
by
their
next
meeting
or
earlier,
if
possible,
and
what
they
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
addressing
was
where
people
could
camp
and
where
they
could
not
and
as
with
many
people
in
the
community,
their
concerns
were
with
violence,
crime,
drug
issues,
I
pointed
out
to
them
that
we
don't
have
a
mental
health
department.
I
They
acknowledge
that
so
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
give
them
a
Clear
Vision
of
of
what
we
want
to
do
as
soon
as
possible
and
I
think
some
of
that
will
come
from
our
Committee
of
the
whole
meeting.
Maybe
all
of
it.
C
So
that's
been:
that's
been
the
conversation.
I
I
haven't
seen
any
action
to
make
that
Committee
of
the
whole
meeting
happen.
Of
course,
everyone
is
always
invited
to
the
pedc
meeting
and
the
intent
is
pedc
is
going
to
have
a
revised
draft
to
review
and
approve,
hopefully
at
that
meeting,
which
means
that
you
know,
regardless
of
whether
it's
the
committee
of
the
whole
or
pedc,
it
still
needs
to
come
to
council.
I
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
a
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
on
this
topic,
because
that
means
it's
between
us
and
we
can
do
that
without
public
comment
and
that
whole
fall
of
wax
there.
C
And
I'll
just
I'll
just
note
that
it
it
will
be
on
that
same
night,
so
block
your
calendars
and
it
doesn't
stop
public
comment
from
happening
at
pedc
right.
I
A
I
C
A
A
A
So
George
I
understand
that
there
is
a
desire
to
move
forward.
That
desire
has
been
in
place
for
months.
C
George
I
would
like
to
suggest
to
our
colleagues
at
the
county
that
I
do
hope
that
they'll
have
some
real
they'll
they'll
have
some
answer
to
their
desires
after
the
pedc
meeting.
That's
in
two
weeks
and
whether
that's
the
final
version
of
what
council
will
approve,
I
can't
predict,
but.
I
I'm
not
going
to
say
anything,
that's
I
haven't
already
said:
that's
going
to
cause
problems.
I
A
It
understood
thank
you,
George.
We
will
now
move
to
advice
of
council
and.
Z
Laura
as
we
move
on
I
just
want
to
clarify,
there's
nothing
else,
there's
no
other
public
discussion
of
any
sort
or
reports
that
council's
intending
tonight
right
because
I
believe
that
I
believe,
frankly,
you
know
up
to
you
mayor,
but
I
would
imagine
that
you
know,
for
example,
the
deputy
clerk
could
go
home
at
this
point,
et
cetera
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
further
public
intended
afterwards.
A
Yeah
there
will
be
no
votes,
nothing
coming
out
of
the
advice
of
council
session.
Z
It's
actually
permissible
either
way
we
can
adjune
from
advice
and
counsel.
We
can
also
adjourn
now
and
then
go
to
advice
of
counsel
either.
One
is
actually
perfectly
legal
because
it's
advisive
counsel.