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From YouTube: May 6, 2020 Common Council Meeting
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A
You
know
exactly
how
many
comments
came
for
each
she'll
be
summarizing
comments
about
anything
on
the
agenda
or,
frankly,
anything
city
related
at
all,
but
the
public
hearings
are
only
for
the
state
of
topics
which
are
using
CDBG
funding
to
help
with
that
relief.
So
that's
item
two
point,
one
and
two
point
two
I'll
give.
That
is
a
fair
warning
because
we're
about
to
allow
the
public
to
speak
on
those
two
comments,
but
anybody
who
speaks
on
other
comments.
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B
A
B
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A
B
Quickly,
just
to
let
CA
members
know
there
was
one
item
that
is
going
to
be
held
back
the
item
that
was
related
to
city
harbour.
You
might
have
been
expecting
to
see
it
on
this
agenda.
It's
held
back
because
I
think
the
attorney's
office
is
still
doing
some
work
on
that.
So
we'll
see
that
coming
to
later
date.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you.
Okay
first
is
the
public
hearing,
there's
a
motion
to
open
father,
20.1,
move
by
demo
and
off
second
by
Donna
Fleming,
all
those
in
favor
of
opening
the
public
hearing
that
carries
unanimously.
So
we
now
have
a
public
open
hearing
regarding
proposed
amendments
to
the
HUD
entitlement
citizen
participation
plan,
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
here
to
talk
about
the
HUD
entitlement,
citizen
participation,
plan,
I.
A
E
E
F
A
So
I
just
so
thank
you.
So
so
here's
the
deal
and
there's
no
good
way
to
have
a
public
comment
portion
where
folks
can't
be
physically
present
to
represent
themselves
both
for
and
against.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
create
a
public
comment
section
which
Julie
will
summarize
for
folks
who
submitted
written
comments.
So
if
you've
submitted
a
written
comment,
Julie
will
summarize
your
points
when
we
get
to
the
public
comment
section.
A
But
this
portion,
the
public
hearing,
is
required
for
the
use
of
federal
funds,
which
is
something
that
we're
planning
to
do
with
the
help
low
and
medium
income
people
in
general
and
specifically
to
help
with
folks
who
can't
make
the
rent
this
month
in
the
next
three
months.
So
we'll
ask
members
will
ask
again,
if
they're
any
members
of
the
public
in
the
waiting
room,
we're
here
to
speak
about
two
point,
one
and
two
point
two.
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G
A
G
A
H
A
E
E
A
I
A
A
Think
that's
four
there
so
I
again,
I
heard
5g,
which
we
have
I,
think
my
last
count
was
55
emails
about
5g
asking
us
to
take
it
off
the
consent
agenda,
which
has
been
done
they're
also
asking
for
a
moratorium.
So
I
think
that
that's
folks
calling
in
hoping
to
comment,
though
again
I'll,
have
to
reiterate
that
this
public
hearing
is
only
about
the
federal
funding.
I
A
J
A
No,
it's
still
on
the
agenda.
We
just,
though
there's
no
public
comment
for
it
tonight.
So
if
you'd
like
council,
to
see
your
public
comment
and
have
it
inserted
into
the
record,
you
can
email
council
at
city
of
Ithaca,
org
and
I,
get
that
my
email
is
mayor
at
city
of
Ithaca
that
org
but
I'm
included
in
council,
so
no
need
to
copy
me.
Thank.
K
A
E
A
You
so
again
the
public
comment
section.
So
the
public
comment
is
in
the
case
of
5g
taking
place
online
and
of
course
there
was
the
public
comment
section
allowed
under
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee
council.
Once
we
get
to
the
agenda
item,
it'll
be
up
to
you
whether
to
delay
the
vote
or
not.
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E
A
A
H
A
H
A
So
we
did
do
that
and
I'm
sorry
that
that
we've
got
to
cut
and
also
you
know
it's
an
issue
now
of
fairness.
We've
set
up
the
meeting
to
work
one
way
so
that
people
who
are
throwing
against
understood
to
write
it
in
and
then,
if
we
allow
some
people
to
comment,
then
it
might
skew.
You
know
the
folks
who
didn't
bother
to
call
in
to
join
the
public
hearings
about
the
CDBG
funding
might
be
sitting
at
home
right
now,
like
that's,
not
fair.
A
How
do
I
get
to
participate
so
we're
trying
to
create
a
level
playing
field
which
folks
can
all
comment
either
by
email
and
council
at
city
of
Ithaca
or
going
through
the
web
portal
to
deliver
a
public
comment.
The
same
way
you
would
by
finding
the
the
city
of
Ithaca
cos
Common
Council
agenda
so
certainly
uncomfortable
I
know.
This
is,
of
course
not
how
we
usually
do
things.
Public
comment
is
usually
all
in
one
format,
three
minutes
a
piece
in
person,
but
this
is
obviously
a
strange
strained.
E
P
E
A
A
M
Q
A
A
This
is
a
motion
to
close
the
public
airing
moved
by
Rob
second
by
Laura,
all
those
in
favor
that
carries
unanimously
so
motion
to
open
public
hearing
two
point:
two
move
by
Laura
seconded
by
Donna,
all
those
in
favor
aye
carries
unanimously
any
public
comment
on
the
rental
relief.
Anybody
in
the
waiting
room,
nobody
in
the
waiting
room,
no
one
in
the
waiting
room.
Is
there
a
motion
to
close
the
public
comments,
public
hearing
ii
by
graham
fruit,
moved
by
graham
second,
by
laura
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously?
O
C
Lisa
Margaret
Baker
from
the
city
said.
Please
don't
allow
5g
to
come
into
our
town
as
scientists.
I
have
already
stated.
The
great
harm
that
is
stronger,
EMF
can
do
Theodore
Whitley
from
Ithaca
says
that
they
use
technology
for
their
livelihood,
however,
that
he
would
like
to
say
no
to
5g.
But
yes,
when
the
testing
is
unanimous
and
the
results
are
yes
that
5g
is
safe.
C
You
me
a
Sakura
city
of
Ithaca
voiced
concerns
regarding
the
installation,
the
possible
installation
of
5g
towers
in
Ithaca
and
has
been
researching
the
adverse
effects
of
this
technology
on
health
and
the
environment.
Joe
Cummins
from
Enfield
said.
Please
refused
to
allow
5g
technology
in
Ithaca
as
he's
concerned.
It
is
not
safe
or
necessary.
C
Alexis
Esposito
believes
that
the
that
the
5g
implementation
should
be
further
studied
before
full
installation
is
approved
in
Ithaca,
as
she
doesn't
believe.
There's
enough
research
to
show
that
it's
safe,
Joe
Soto
opposes
any
installation
of
this
new
technology
called
5g
until
further
science
based
Health
House
studies
are
conducted,
William
putamen
city
of
Ithaca,
that
there
is
no
certainty
that
5g
cell
towers
won't
create
serious
health
risks
to
humans
and
other
mammals.
C
Judy
serrano
from
Ithaca
is
requesting
a
temporary
band
of
5g
installation
in
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
Tompkins
County.
Until
scientific
study
proves
it
as
a
hundred
percent
safe
Rebecca
Holland
from
the
town
of
Ithaca
is
very
concerned
about
the
possibility
of
small-cell
4G
5g
radiation
facilities
being
installed
and
turned
on
in
Ithaca.
She
has
small
children.
C
C
C
Forgive
me
just
a
second
there's.
A
lot
of
comments.
Okay,
Alison
deSario
from
the
city
of
Ithaca,
is
writing
as
a
concerned
member
of
the
community
and
opposes
the
spread
of
4G
and
the
implementation
of
5g
wireless
technology
in
the
city,
as
studies
show
that
the
radiation
frequencies
can
impact
the
immune
system
and
increase
the
risk
of
various
cancers
and
and
other
diseases.
C
Ryan
Curtis
from
Brooke
Tyndale
said
that
5g
can
wait
that
there's
no
rush
on
this.
Let
testing
begin
and
then
the
technology
can
improve,
be
improved
once
there's
further
testing
on
it.
John
Driscoll
from
the
town
of
Ithaca
asked
that
we
not
grant
access
to
Verizon
or
any
other
company
to
use
the
public
right
of
ways
to
install
4G
or
5g
cell
phone
towers.
The
radiation
emitted
from
the
towers
is
very
harmful
to
human
health,
and
should
that
be
permitted.
C
Walter
Hartman
from
Ithaca
shared
the
facts
that
he
knows
by
his
evidence
and
experience
and
talks
about
the
development
of
5g.
So
he
implores
your
critical
thinking,
skills
and
looking
at
all
the
evidence
and
asking
yourselves
if
it's
okay,
to
allow
technology
that
has
not
been
studied
or
the
results
have
not
been
disclosed
to
the
public
Orson
Leonard
from
Ithaca.
C
She
wanted
to
state
for
the
record
that
the
city
should
halt.
Turning
on
all
5g
towers,
until
independent
safety
studies
could
be
completed,
Elizabeth
salon
from
Ithaca
is
a
health
care
provider
and
has
been
for
many
years
and
she's
convinced
of
the
damage
to
life
caused
by
5g
and
strongly
opposes
exposing
ethica
and
the
surrounding
area.
C
Lucy
Fitzgibbon
feels
strongly
that
we
should
consider
improving
Internet
connectivity
in
Ithaca
and
the
surrounding
area,
and
she
talks
about
the
issues
that
she
has
with
broadband
locally
and
you
know
has
to
go
to
different
locations
when
that
when
they
need
to
use
things
like
this
tool.
Video
conferencing
tools
for
teaching
Kristin
Bartholomew
of
Lansing
New
York
is
asking
for
a
temporary
band
of
the
5
g
5g
installation
in
the
city
and
Tompkins
County.
C
Until
scientific
study
proves
that
it's
a
hundred
percent
safe
Danny
Fox
from
the
town
of
Ithaca,
saying
that
new
4G
low-band
m5g
hybrid
antennas
are
being
located
in
neighborhoods
and
talks
about
the
modulation
and
the
pulsing
that
occurs
as
a
result,
and
he
has
very
strong
sensitivities
with
RFR
and
has
had
to
minimize
his
exposure
just
to
survive.
It's
a
health
condition
that
can't
be
treated
so.
C
Nathan
waltz
from
Ithaca
is
requesting
a
moratorium
on
the
rollout
of
5g
until
potential
hazards
for
human
health
and
environment
have
been
fully
investigated
by
scientists
and
medical
doctors.
Independent
from
the
industry.
Thomas
Shriver
from
Ithaca
is
wrote
in
support
and
encouraging
members
of
council.
C
C
Teresa
alt
from
the
city
of
Ithaca
spoke
about
a
bill.
That's
been
introduced
to
Congress
HR,
six,
five,
one
five
that
would
achieve
some
of
the
goals
of
the
local
rent
freeze
that
Common
Council
adopted
last
month
and
says
that
would
appreciate
you
reaching
out
to
senators
Schumer
and
Gillibrand
two
for
their
support
on
these
bills,
regarding
not
only
a
rent
freeze,
but
there
are
additional
protections
for
people
during
this
cope
at
nineteen
period.
C
Katarina
new
menko
from
Ithaca
talked
about.
You
know
the
frequencies
that
microwave
ovens
operate
on
and
the
frequencies
that
5g
technology
also
operates
on
and
talks
about.
All
of
the
safety
concerns
about
society,
technology,
Breann,
I'm,
sorry,
Brianna,
I'm,
gonna
butcher.
Your
last
name
sky
may
said
that
they
would
like
the
city
of
Ithaca
to
take
more
time
to
investigate
and
research
the
effects
of
5g
before
approving
any
process.
C
Victor
raku
from
the
town
of
Ithaca
feels
strongly
that
the
installation
of
5g
technology
should
not
be
installed
in
Ithaca
until
the
public
has
been
fully
informed
about
the
safety
of
the
technology.
He
also
has
kids
and
cares
about
his
community.
Jacqueline
Machado
from
Ithaca
I
talked
about
the
the
rollout
of
the
5g
technology
provided
links
to
some
studies.
C
And
asked
the
Common
Council
and
also
the
Tompkins
County
Legislature,
stop
this
initiative
moving
forward
and
called
for
a
temporary
moratorium
until
scientific
studies
can
be
done,
proving
that
the
technology
is
safe.
Molly
Donovan
from
the
city
urged
Common
Council
to
listen
earnestly
to
the
voices
in
the
community
who
are
diligently
leading
us
in
conversations
around
Health
and
Human
Rights
and
urges
you
to
fairly
represent
the
voices
of
the
community
and
not
act
against
their
concerns
and
helping
and
helping
keeping
everybody
safe
and
secure.
C
Andrew
molnár
was
saying
that
he
couldn't
really
believe
that
mist
and
and
economic
and
health
crisis,
that
Council
is
considering
allowing
5g
in
our
area,
he's
horrified
by
the
dangers
of
5g
and
implored
council
to
take
a
pause
on
this
and
dead.
Mullin
half
received
a
phone
call
today
from
Yolanda
capatch
me
from
Newfield,
who
was
vehemently
opposed
to
5g,
as
it
needs
more
investigation,
because
we
just
don't
know
enough
about
it
yet.
So
that
was
the
extent
of
public
comment.
R
C
O
A
You
Julie
appreciate
you
read
those
comments.
I
appreciate
everybody
for
taking
the
time
to
comment,
I'm,
sorry
for
doing
in
a
truncated
form,
but
I.
Think
too,
we
captured
both
volume
and
the
thrust
of
the
comments,
as
well
as
picking
out
the
particular
details
that
distinguished
one
from
the
next
but
again
I'll
just
I
should
acknowledge
it's
not
ideal.
This
is
not
how
we
should
be
having
public
meetings.
We
would
you
know,
we've
all
had
to
adjust
to
non-ideal
circumstances
and
I
appreciate
the
clerk
for
doing
such
a
great
job.
A
C
M
S
A
Right
I
skipped
that
part
you're,
absolutely
right.
Let's,
let's
do
that
now
and
then
we'll
take
the
vote
so
privilege
of
the
floor
or
a
response
to
the
public.
Knowing
to
that
this.
For
for
the
5
G
item
on
the
agenda,
you
can
respond
now
or
save
it
for
it's
coming
up.
Next,
the
vote
and
discussion
any
responsible
or
privilege
of
the
floor.
Q
A
T
Q
P
C
A
C
H
K
A
You,
okay!
Now
we
can
go
to
city
administration
committee,
chair
Mullin
house
to
discuss
three
point:
one
which
is
five
G,
so
I
will
announce
like
I
did
last
week.
I
actually
have
a
perceived
conflict
of
interest,
so
I'm
going
to
be
recusing
myself.
I
think
this
is
a
first
for
me.
Ever
I
have
a
family
member
that
works
for
Verizon
this
family
member
I've
not
talked
to
about
five
G
I,
have
no
reason
to
believe
that
what
the
Common
Council
decides
to
do
would
affect
this
family
members
finances.
A
It
certainly
wouldn't
affect
my
finances
and
I.
Don't
think
it
would
affect
his
employment,
but
when
we
first
got
the
phone
call
from
Verizon
to
avoid
even
the
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest,
I
just
immediately
recused
myself
from
any
of
the
discussion.
So
all
the
discussions
inside
City
Hall
have
been
led
by
the
staff
and
shepherded
by
Deb
Mullin
off
as
who's
acting
is
acting
mayor
and
to
avoid
appearing
to
influence
the
discussion
I'm
actually
going
to
exit
the
meeting
and
I'll
come
back
when
it
comes
to
the
next
item.
A
But
I
just
want
to
repeat
that
I.
Don't
believe,
there's
an
actual
conflict
of
interest,
because
this
family
member
is
not
loaned
me
any
money
since
freshman
year,
I,
think
and
infer
some
pizza,
money
and
and
I.
Don't
think
this
will
affect
their
income
but
again
with
topic.
That's
important.
I
didn't
even
want
there
to
be
the
appearance
of
a
conflict,
so
I've
been
recusing
myself
for
several
months
and
I'll
continue
that
refusal
now
thanks
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Deb.
B
L
Q
For
you
and
resolves
at
the
acting
mayor,
subject
to
the
advice
of
the
city,
attorney
is
authorized
to
enter
into
an
agreement
substantially
similar
to
the
master
license.
Agreement
included
here
with
requiring
that
Verizon
comply
with
the
included
preliminaries,
like
I,
like
which
guidelines
would
be
updated
at
any
time
on
the
determination
of
the
director
right.
There.
B
A
second
I
see
Stephen,
thank
you
so
I
think
before
before
we
get
into
discussion
from
counsel.
What
might
make
sense
is
to
have
re,
give
some
background
on
to
exactly
the
relationship
with
the
city
and
the
FCC
in
Verizon,
and
what
exactly
this
contract
is
that
we
are
authorizing
today
and
then
we'll
move
into
questions
and
discussion.
Are
you
uncle.
D
Sure
Thank
You
dinner,
so
yeah
this
is
this-
is
a
Verizon
that
approached
the
city,
requesting
the
ability
to
install
small
cell
infrastructure
in
the
city
in
order
to
provide
higher
speed
service
in
the
city.
The
master
license
agreement
on
the
agenda
is
a
non-exclusive
agreement
that
would
permit
Verizon
to
install
5g
infrastructure
in
the
city
right-of-way
generally
on
existing
poles.
D
Each
such
installation
would
be
subject
to
a
individualized
permit
that
would
need
to
be
submitted
to
to
the
city
staff
for
review
and
compliance
with
design
guidelines.
Those
design
guidelines
are
still
in
development
by
city
staff,
in
both
the
planning
department
and
the
engineering
office
in
the
superintendent's
office,
and
those
design
guidelines
can
be
quite
robust
in
terms
of
managing
the
aesthetic
impacts.
D
D
I
believe
the
timeline
we've
heard
is
around
October
because
there's
a
fair
amount
of
engineering
and
design
work
that
needs
to
go
into
getting
ready
for
those
physical
installations
if
they
are
to
move
forward,
and
my
understanding
is
that
Verizon
is
not
I'm
going
to
invest
immediately
in
that
engineering
and
design
work
until
council
has
voted
to
approve
a
master
license
agreement
of
this
sort
before
you
on
tonight.
In
the
first
place.
H
H
T
T
T
T
D
D
Be
very
disappointed,
actual
boxes
and
I
have
heard
nothing
to
suggest
that
I'm
sure
our
streets
in
facilities,
crews
and
our
engineering
office
would
know
if
those
were
going
up
on
poles
in
our
right-of-way
I
would
believe-
and
we've
heard
nothing
to
that
effect-
I
they
do
have
the
right
to
upgrade
their
poles.
Of
course,.
T
D
Q
D
I
mean
I
think
the
main
thing
that
I
would
probably
point
to
is
there
is
an
FCC
order
that
says
that
municipalities,
enactment
of
a
moratorium
on
5g
installations,
as
if
it
would
violate,
would
violate
the
law
that
we're
not
allowed
to,
and
this
is
true
and
generally
in
telecom
law,
that
this
is
this
is
the
point
of
federal
preemption
or
a
federal
preemption
is
the
idea
that
no
state
or
locality
can
prohibit
and
approved
telecommunications
technology
for
managing
a
community?
Rather
it
can
merely
regulate
it
within
the
balance
of
standard.
D
In
our
case,
municipal
regulation,
which
involves
things
like,
is
it
going
to
have
conflicts
with
other
issues?
Our
right-of-way
doesn't
have
aesthetic
impacts
that
are
not
what
Common
Council
wants
to
permit
and
so
you'll
see
lots
of
cities
that
are
considering
5g
implementing
robust
design
design
guidelines
are
mandatory.
D
The
word
guideline
is
in
the
name,
but
in
fact,
that
it's
mandating
compliance
for
each
individual
patient
with
those
design
parameters.
But
again,
that's
separate
from
the
question
of
the
municipality
deliberating
whether
it
is
a
safe
technology
in
the
first
place,
that's
something
as
I
understand
it.
It
has
to
be
determined
at
the
federal
level
and
that
we
are
pretty
preempted
from
evaluating.
D
The
design
guidelines
are
motivated
by
my
aesthetic
concerns.
I
think
they
are
likely
to
be
defensible
and
I
I'm
not
legally
concerned
about
quite
robust
design
guidelines
that
have
very
clear
protections
for
issues
that
City
is
concerned
with.
If
the
design
guidelines
were
seen
by
if
the
city
were
sued
and
the
design
guidelines
were
seen
by
a
court
as
being
problem
for
as
being
a
cover
for
for
what,
in
fact
we're
safety
concerns
which
are
outside
the
city's
purview,
I
think.
R
I
hope
I'm
reading
this
properly.
So
on
the
agreement,
it
says
that
this
is
a
non-exclusive
license.
Does
that
mean
that
we
could
also
grant
licenses
to
licenses
to
other
telecoms
and
I
would
be
concerned
either
way?
I
would
know
if
not
I
would
want
to
know
why
I'm
Verizon
gets
a
monopoly
and
if
so,
I
would
want
to
know
how
we
prevent
it
from
being
a
cluttered
mess.
D
It
is
non-exclusive,
meaning
that
if
other
companies
were
to
approach
the
city
requesting
the
ability
for
them
to
install
5g
in
the
city
as
well
on
the
opposite,
he
could
also
enter
into
license
agreements
with
them
for
their
5g
installations
as
well.
That's
right!
So
it's
not!
This
is
not
a
horizon.
B
So,
presumably
the
design
lines
design
guidelines
could
include
no
more
than
so
many
on
a
you
know.
That
would
I
think
Donna's
point
was:
how
do
we
prevent
17
companies
from
coming
in
that
all
of
a
sudden
they're
there
that
many
do
the
design
guidelines?
Are
the
design
guidelines
going
to
be
specific
to
one
carrier
or
will
they
cover
any
carrier
that
wants
to
come
in
they'll.
B
D
Guidelines
would
be
applicable
to
all
all
5g
installations
in
the
city,
not
not
just
for
Verizon
and
I'm
sure
I
think
it
should
be
perfectly
legitimate
to
have
design
guidelines.
That
say,
you
can't
have
more
than
X
number
of
installations
on
a
given
Pole,
because,
yes,
that
ik
implications
of
that
are
not
acceptable.
Dinah'll.
K
F
K
Read
I
think
this
technology
is
reasonable
and
safe
I
mean
I,
don't
think
anything
is
a
hundred
percent
and
I'm
guaranteed,
but
certainly
from
what
I've
read.
I
think
this
is
a
certainly
a
safe
technology.
I
am
particularly
concerned
about
something
that
we
can
influence,
which
is
the
design
guidelines.
K
We've
seen
huge
improvements
in
the
environment,
in
college
town
and
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
When
utilities
have
been
buried,
I
mean
that's.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
actually
make
the
environment
a
better
environment,
and
so
my
main
concern
here
is
that
this
is
really
the
wrong
way
around.
I
would
really
like
to
see
these
design
guidelines
before
I
vote
on
a
license,
and
so
I
guess.
My
question.
K
Ari
is:
what's
the
impact
of
not
putting
a
moratorium,
but
certainly
tabeling
this
until
we
see
what
the
design
guidelines
are,
because
that's
gonna
have
a
big
influence,
I
think
on
my
overall
assessment
of
of
this
particular
agreement.
So
I
guess
my
question:
is
you
know?
What's
what
some
people
have
said?
What's
the
rush?
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
moratorium,
but
I
am
saying.
I
would
like
to
see
those
design
guidelines
before
I
see
this
master
license
agreement
in
place.
Sure.
D
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
We
we've
asked
that
question
directly
of
Verizon.
The
answer
we
got
back
was
a
little
less
direct
and
I
would
have
preferred
to
be
honest,
but
the
my
impression
is
that
it
would
indeed
slow
down
the
rollout
because
they
do
need
time
to
do
additional
engineering
and
design
work
for
the
particular
setting
in
which
the
you
know
for
the
particular
poles,
and
so
on
that
they
would
be
then
proposing
and
seeking
permits
from
the
city
on
under
this
master
license
agreement.
D
K
Just
a
follow-up,
presumably
the
rollout
is
gonna,
be
delayed
because
of
the
current
and
I'm,
not
linking
fangy
with
the
current
Corona.
But
this
outbreak,
but
presumably
everybody's
time
technicals
have
been
postponed
or
delayed
because
of
that
and
I'm
assuming
Verizon's
isn't
in
the
same
kind
of
category
yeah.
D
Think
I
think
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
I
mean
Verizon's
been
clear
to
us
that
they
are
are
still
working
hard
to
get
5g
installed
as
soon
as
permitted.
So
I
would
not
based
on
what
we've
heard
from
them.
I'm
not
sure
it's
true
that
they
would
be
unable
to
follow
through
with
their
October
installation,
which
of
course
is
an
outdoor
installation
that
I
imagine
does
not
require
a
great.
D
K
S
I
I
agree
with
Graham's
request
that
I
think
the
timing
is
more
appropriate
to
have
this
tied
in
with
the
design
guidelines.
I
I
think,
as
as
Graham
said,
we
have
areas
which
we
are
doing
our
best
to
reduce
the
clutter
of
poles.
We
don't
have
any
information
in
terms
of
what
the
dimensions
of
poles
or
locations
of
poles
that
they're
looking
at
as
George
indicated
earlier,
the
it
seems
that
the
poles
that
are
going
in
on
West
Hill
are
quite
high.
S
There
are
areas
in
the
city
that
have
no
no
poles
at
all,
except
for
streetlights,
and
so
we
definitely
wouldn't
want
to
be
adding
more
infrastructure
in
areas
where
we
have
intentionally
done
action
to
reduce
it.
I
am
concerned
also
about
the
proximity.
You
know
making
sure
that
there
would
be
guidelines
so
that
the
proximity
of
these
devices
are
not
right
outside
people's
windows
concerned
about
how
close
they
are
to
dwelling
units.
I
am.
S
Wondering
if,
if
this,
given
people's
concerns
and
anxiety
and
apprehension,
have
we
considered
the
ability
to
opt
out,
have
certain
neighborhoods
not
be
included
in
this
5g
rollout
or
provide
that
that
opportunity
for
residential
areas
to
say
we,
as
a
community
majority
of
us,
would
like
to
petition
to
not
have
this
in
our
neighborhood?
You
know,
although
I
understand
what
people
are
saying
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
misinformation,
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
confusing
information.
I
really
tried
this
past
several
days.
S
Once
the
agenda
came
out,
I
tried
to
find
information
on
the
research
on
5g
and
it
was
not
easily
available.
I'm,
not
actually
not
sure
I
did
find
much
that
it
was
not
tied
in
one
way
or
another
to
a
telecommunication
company
that
was
presenting
information
as
to
how
5g
is
safe.
I
have
not
seen
reports
from
the
FCC
that
that
clearly
supported
it.
S
So
I
do
have
concerns
one
thing
that
in
at
least
in
the
things
that
I've
been
involved
in
whether
or
not
we're
looking
at
plastics
in
the
water
water
pharmaceuticals
in
the
water
contaminants
in
the
air,
as
we
learn
over
time.
As
our
science
becomes
more
refined,
we
can
see
long-term
impacts
from
low-level
exposure
to
contaminants,
and
we
are
now
getting
a
better
idea
of
what
those
long-term
impacts
are
having
both
on
humans
and
on
the
environment
and
both
amphibians
mammals.
S
So
on
so
I
am
a
bit
apprehensive
in
terms
of
having
it
yet
another
science
that
will
be
just
distributed
throughout
our
community
and
presumably,
if
they're,
using
our
right
of
way.
It
would
be
disseminated
everywhere
in
our
community
and
there
would
be
no
options
for
people
to
find
a
safe
space.
That
would
be
away
from
that.
W
So
I
have
a
question
in
a
statement:
I
guess
so.
The
question
I
have
is
I've
gotten
some
reports,
sort
of
usually
from
constituents
about
small
cell
facilities
being
installed
around
the
city.
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
like
4G
or
you
know,
re
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
this
at
all
I
mean
sometimes
it'll
happen.
Somebody
else
and
send
me
a
photo
and
be
like
what
is
this
thing.
W
D
For
sure,
at
this
point,
I'm
Verizon,
of
course,
has
all
sorts
of
other
infrastructure
in
the
city,
and
it's
not
5g
that
they're
primarily
working
with.
So
that's
my
best
guess
as
to
what
this
would
be
I
mean.
The
other
question
mark
would
be
whether
they're
engaging
in
installations
on
private
property,
where
they
get
permission
from
the
property
owner
and
the
separate
question.
Because
again,
the
federal
preemption
of
of
municipal
regulation
of
telecom
issues
could
potentially
permit
installations
on
private
property.
What
this
master
license
agreement.
W
K
W
You
know
I
absolutely
agree
with
what
with
Graham
said
about
and
also
Cynthia
about
waiting
for
the
design
guidelines.
You
know
I
noticed
in
the
resolved,
it's
actually
written.
It
says
the
included
design
guidelines,
so
it
kind
of
seems
like
the
intention
is
to
bring
this
agreement
forward
with
the
design
guidelines,
so
I
I
would
be
in
favor
of
waiting
and
I.
Also
think
you
know
I,
as
you
know,
Cynthia
kind
of
touched
on
this.
But
you
know
when
the
agenda
came
out.
W
You
know
I,
don't
really
know
a
great
deal
about
this
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
it.
As
I
know,
we
all
have
reading
things
online
and
sending
each
other
articles
and
and
I
know
the
communities
doing
that
as
well
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
merit
and
maybe
having
a
wider
community
wide
conversation
about
this
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
that
are
very
concerned
about
this
and
I
certainly
understand.
B
V
I'd
also
want
to
highlight
what
my
colleagues
are,
citing
as
the
importance
of
the
design
guidelines,
but
I
have
a
question,
maybe
for
Ari.
If
I'm
reading
this
right,
it
it
and
I
mean,
would
we
be
able
to
say
confidently
that
we
wouldn't
be
doing
any
permitting
until
we
have
design
guidelines
in
place?
I.
Q
D
Staff,
the
staff
schedule
is
to
have
those
design
guidelines
ready
no
later
than
the
very
beginning
of
July
and
I.
Believe
the
objective
is
June
and
if
you
wanted
it
to
come
back
through
a
committee
and
full
council
that
could
be
a
June
committee
of
July,
council
and
and
the
permitting
for
individual
installations
wouldn't
begin
until
July.
So
that's
their.
V
Call
just
under
a
scenario,
let's
say,
for
example,
we
know
that
we've
just
hampered
some
of
our
departments
abilities
to
get
work
done
for
in
the
short
term.
We
hope.
So
if
those
design
guidelines
don't
hit
that
timeline,
I
assume
we
would
still
delay
any
permitting
until
we
had
design
guidelines
in
place.
Correct.
D
B
L
Wi-Fi
access
and
I
really
want
to
understand
what
are
the
benefits
potential
benefits.
We've
heard
a
great
deal
from
the
public
about
potential
downsides
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we've
heard
enough
to
justify
in
my
mind
what
would
be
the
benefits.
Why
would
we
be
moving
forward
with
something
like
this?
So
I
have
a
number
of
questions.
It
does
seem
that
to
vote
on
this
tonight
before
knowing
the
guidelines
and
having
a
bit
more
information
would
be
moving
ahead
too
quickly
on
this,
so
I
I
would
agree
with
tabling
it
whenever
it
is
moved.
R
Certainly
up
to
your
automobile,
I
thought,
I
think
that
they're,
small
and
I
think
the
science
shows
that
they're
exaggerated
in
in
the
minds
of
some
people
and
they're
greatly
outweighed
by
the
benefits.
I.
Think
we've
seen
in
the
last
six
weeks.
The
desperate
need
for
reliable,
high-speed
Internet
in
our
County
throughout
the
state
across
the
country
and
I
think
this
would
be
a
move
in
that
direction.
I
have
concerns
about
the
design
guidelines.
I,
don't
want
big
ugly
boxes
and
poles
everywhere.
R
I
also
have
concerns
about
competition,
I'm,
afraid
I,
don't
understand
how
that
would
work.
If
you,
if
there
were
multiple
companies
having
these
boxes
up
I,
don't
understand
that
either
to
Gramma's
point
earlier,
we
have
been
trying
to
move
towards
installing
utilities
underground
I
wouldn't
want
to
contradict
that
aesthetic
concern.
R
But
again,
these
are
aesthetic
concerns
and
they're
not
based
on
a
skepticism
regarding
the
technology
itself,
which
I
have
reason
to
believe
is
no
more
dangerous
than
quite
quite
ordinary
household
items
and
Cynthia's
point
a
lot
less
dangerous
than
plastics
and
high
fructose
corn
syrup,
which
we
have
never
discussed
in
council,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
moving
forward.
But
addressing
our
concerns
about
design
guidelines.
I.
B
Saw
dexon
and
then
just
to
tell
Laura
really
quickly.
I
was,
as
we
all
have
been
trying
to
become
quick
experts
in
this.
One
of
the
things
that
I
was
reading
more
extensively
was
that
the
one
of
the
issues
now
is
with
the
current
technology
that
we
have
too
many
devices
can
overload
what
is
even
a
fast
internet
and
we're
seeing
that
being
exacerbated
right
now
because
of
this
remote
working
situation.
B
So
one
of
the
benefits
to
having
a
5g
is
that
it
will
allow
for
more
connections
from
multiple
devices
and
one
of
the
things
that
people
are
not
thinking
about
is,
and
you
sort
of
have
services
like
uber
and
lyft
they're
driving
around
needing
access
to
signals.
You
have
there's
toothbrushes
that
connect
to
the
internet
and
give
data
in
the
number
of
devices
now
that
have
to
access
internet
capability
is
what's
been,
clogging
the
works
up.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
read
about
5g
was
that
it
will
have
more
capacity
for
more
devices.
B
You
know
if
you've
ever
been
in
a
large-scale
event,
hopefully
someday.
We
will
all
be
able
to
be
at
large
events
again,
but
if
you've
ever
been
at
a
large
concert
and
all
of
a
sudden,
no
one
can
use
their
phones.
My
understanding
is
that
the
5g
technology
will
allow
for
multiple
more
users
to
access
that.
Q
Q
Those
are
the
points
one
I
just
wanted
to
add.
To
that
I
mean
5g
is
not
just
for
her
cell
phone
Verizon
themselves.
This
and
the
markets
up,
they
have
5g
for
the
home
and
the
price
is
pretty
competitive
with
cable
internet,
and
so
to
me,
it's
not
about
so
much
speeding
up.
You
know,
phones,
be
that's
fine,
it's
more
about
the
home
and
giving
the
competition
per
spectrum.
Q
Yeah
lots
of
people
have
come
to
me
frustrated
that
we
don't
have
alternatives
to
spectrum
for
Internet,
which
I
think
in
this
community
maxes
out
at
100
megabits
per
second
and
Verizon
is
offering
300
to
900
I,
don't
love
it
either
of
these
corporations.
They're
big
corporations
that
are
often
crappy
to
their
customers,
but
we're
stuck
with
just
one
option
right
now
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
allow
for
competition,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
as
consumer
I'm.
Q
B
S
Thank
you,
I
agree
with
duck,
Sion's
point
that
you
know
there
are
many
benefits
to
providing
competition
with
regards
to
wireless
and
sell
technology
and
Laura's
point
that
we
have
huge
areas
throughout
the
county
that
don't
have
access
to
internet,
and
so
there
are
benefits
to
our
modern,
daily
lives
that
that
we
need
access
to
this,
and
this
is
one
way
to
support
that.
I.
Do
just
want
to
make
a
point
with
regards
to
you
know,
Donna's
observation
about
the
health
risks
that
go
along
with
microwaves
and
toasters
and
and
cars.
S
So
if
you
put
them
all
in
a
line
for
one
mile,
there'll
be
17
of
them
all
in
a
row.
That's
how
frequent
they're
going
to
be
and
my
understanding
is,
they
have
to
be
fairly
close
to
the
ground
and,
if
they're
in
the
street
right
away,
they
may
easily
be
right
outside
someone's
windows.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
think
about
these
things.
As
we
look
to
the
design
guidelines
which
hopefully
will
be
coming
soon,
I.
X
D
I'm
the
way
they
have
presented
it
to
us
is
that
they
are
not
going
to
invest
in
the
detailed
level
of
design
and
engineering
necessary
to
an
October
installation
until
until
Council
has
approved
a
master
master
license
agreement
of
the
forum
on
tonight's
agenda.
So
our
impression,
though
again
they
did
not
give
me
as
direct
and
answer
as
I
would
have
liked
to
this
question.
But
our
impression
is
that
if
we
delay
tonight
so
it
will
probably
also
delay
the
start
of
that
engineering
and
design
and
we're
doing
a
tour
installation
right.
X
D
D
Cell
of
cell
phone
technology,
but
but
I
think
what
it
boils
down
to
is
design
guidelines
are
gonna,
be
mostly
aesthetic
issues
that
the
city
has
concerns
around.
Where
we're
saying
you
have
to
comply
with
these
aesthetic
rules,
and
there
will
also
be
about
functional
conflicts
with
other
utilities,
and
so
on
that
we
have,
in
our
right-of-way
already
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
problem
with
those
we
set
those
rules.
We
set
those
out
static
rules.
We
set
those
functional
conflict
rules
with
our
utilities.
D
They
then
need
to
do
their
actual
technical
engineering
about
how
their
network
will
be
built
out
in
the
city
for
the
particular
locations,
in
particular,
geography
and
everything
else
of
the
city
and
that
work
I,
think
in
terms
of
actually
picking
particular
spots
in
the
city,
particular
Pole
filing
applications
with
the
city
for
permits
for
those
particular
poles
that
work
I
think
is
the
work
that
would
take
from
now
until
they
were
ready
to
actually
mobilize
an
installation
in
October
and
I.
Think
they're
not
going
to
invest
in
that
work.
D
D
D
D
X
X
I
think
that
the
likelihood
is
that
we're
going
to
be
experiencing
some
version
of
what
we're
going
through
right
now
for
quite
some
time
and
so
to
me
it
seems
like
the
quicker
we
can
get
this
up
the
better
and
if
we
have
enough
time
between
now
and
October,
to
establish
some
set
of
guidelines,
I
don't
see
a
reason
to
hold
off,
but
that
by
my
count
that
doesn't
necessarily
sound.
Like
the
majority
opinion
I.
B
B
T
Is
my
my
computer
keeps
freezing
up,
and
but
it
would
seem
to
me
that
they're
made
very
well
but
aspects
to
this
I'm
thinking
can,
especially
if
public
school
kids,
who
have
to
do
their
homework
on
a
computer
and
some
of
them
just
don't
can't
do
it
and
it
puts
them
in
a
disadvantage.
But
I
also
think
it's
very
important
that
we
have
get
guidelines
in
place
before
they.
T
D
D
Again,
I'll
just
note
just
make
sure
everybody's
clear
on
it
that
were
counseled
to
choose
to
move
forward
with
this
resolution
tonight.
It
could
still
be
in
place
before
any
permits
were
I'm
approved
and
could
still
come
back
to
Council
for
approval
before
any
permits
were
fruit,
so
I
think
that's
not
those
could.
Those
are
not
mutually
exclusive
options.
H
W
B
K
I
understand
my
colleagues
point,
but
I
think
Ari's
told
us
that
Verizon
can't
really
go
ahead
until
we
get
the
design
guideline
so
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
they
just
want
to
get
this
out
of
the
way
before
we've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
design
guidelines,
because
if
they
really
have
to
comply
with
those,
then
this
placing
of
the
boxes
and
this
kind
of
stuff
is
going
to
be
dependent
on
that's
I'm,
sure
and
so
I.
Don't
feel
any
necessity
to
move
this
forward.
K
B
What
Ari
said
was
that
there
are
other
things
that
Verizon
would
need
to
do
in
order
to
just
generally
prep
for
the
installation
that
could
be
done
on
their
end
to
make
it
smoother
once
the
design
guidelines
were
ready.
So
what
their
lie
think
their
goal
would
be
is
to
get
the
nod
that
the
that
we
are
indicating
that
it
is
okay
and
then
as
where
I
would
mention
the
parallel
process
of
the
design
guidelines.
B
I,
believe
that,
just
of
why
they
might
want
to
have
the
approval,
knowing
that
they
can
start
to
put
some
energy
into
gearing
up,
so
that
when
the
design
guidelines
are
ready,
it
will
be
easier
for
them
to
move
forward
and
implement.
That's
what
I
am.
That
is
why
I
understand
that
we
allowed
these
even
to
be
separated
as
a
process,
and
we
can
decide
the
the
guidelines
go
back.
They
can
either
go
back
through
CA
or
they
can
go
through.
B
W
B
W
Yeah
I
think
my
reservation
about
this
I
mean
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
just
like
the
education
of
the
public,
because
you
know,
as
we've
all
experienced
ourselves,
we
have
had
to
come
up
to
speed
on
this
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
There's
a
lot
of
different
theories
out
there
about
what
this
is
and
what
we're
proposing,
I,
actually
think
waiting
a
month
or
two
help
clear
away.
W
Some
of
the
misinformation
I
think
would
help
the
community
understand
what
we're
doing
and
so
I
think
just
based
for
the
basic
purpose
of
transparency.
I
think
it.
It
pays
to
delay
this
at
least
until
its
design
guidelines
come,
and
you
know,
I
think
I
accept
a
delay
of
a
couple
months.
If
that's
what
it
means
before
Verizon
is
ready
to
roll
this
out.
I
mean
this
is
a
big
change
for
the
community
and
I.
Think
it's
important.
W
D
I'll
say
I
did
and
I
just
do
want
to
note
that
on
the
staff
are
definitely
developing
design
guidelines
for
any
installation,
not
just
for
Verizon.
So
to
your
point,
that's
what's
happening.
Verizon
has
no
effectively
no
input
on
those
designs.
That's
something
that
the
city
is
developing
the
way
city
staff
believe
it
should
be
developed
and
if
Council
wants
to
approve
those-
and
it
would
be
approved
in
whatever
form
council
wanted
to
approve
it
and
obviously
but
a
Verizon
would
have
like
this
to
move
forward
on
quite
some
months
ago.
D
F
B
C
Correct
so
we'll
start
with
older
person:
Bronk
I
we
gotta
go
I.
T
C
C
U
U
C
D
B
X
X
The
reality
is
there's
about
as
much
science
saying
that
5g
is
an
issue
as
there
is
saying
that
vaccines
are
an
issue
and
more
time
hasn't
allowed.
That
argument
to
become
less
contentious
and
we've
been
hearing
some
of
these
arguments
with
5g,
since
they
were
announced,
and
so
I
think
that
if
this
is
about
the
design
guidelines,
we
have,
we
have
a
parallel
process
that
will
give
us
design
guidelines
in
time
for
the
implementation
here
and
I.
X
H
B
H
H
B
D
So
I
think
one
of
the
most
protective
versions,
given
the
concern
that
clearly
half
of
council
is
expressing
around
having
design
guidelines
in
place.
First,
one
of
the
most
protective
versions
of
an
amendment
that
I
think
as
along
the
lines
of
what
you're
suggesting
Stephen
is
to
instruct
that
the
in
that
last
resolve
to
instruct
that
and
the
master
license
agreement
itself
will
not
be
executed
by
the
city
until
the
design
guidelines
are
either
brought
forward
or
approved.
D
Council
are
approved
by
the
Common
Council
and
that
way
you'd
be
giving
Verizon
a
signal
right
now
that,
yes,
we,
the
Common
Council
arvo,
to
approve
a
mask
your
license
agreement
with
you,
but
it
will
still
be
contingent
on
the
approval
design
guidelines
later
and
they
actually
won't
have
a
signed
master
license
agreement
until
that
happens,
which
could
be
a
good
compromise
position.
Nan
between
the
two
sets
of
views,
I,
think
I'm
hearing
tonight
and
I
should
Debu
are
as
acting
mayor
because
the
because
the
mayor
is
recused
from
all
of
these
issues.
D
I'm
you
are
the
one
who
would
sign
that
master
license.
Agreement
is
acting
mayor,
so
you
could
simply
hold
off
and
of
course,
council
could
instruct
you
to
hold
off
if
we.
H
T
T
B
Validate
what
Verizon
is
doing
before
we
can
assume
that
what
they're
doing
is
something
related
to
this
I
think
Verizon
has
all
kinds
of
infrastructure
across
the
city,
so
maybe
we
could
have
symptom
checker
doubt.
How
do
you
want
to
send
an
email
to
Ari
and
Tim
logo
about
what
you
observed
and
they
can
investigate
it?
Does
that
make
sense,
Ari
well.
D
T
D
B
T
D
B
D
No,
earlier
than
design
guidelines
are
approved
by
the
Common
Council
comma
authorized
to
enter
into
an
agreement
substantially
similar,
they
would
keep
going
as
written
the
point
being
that
it
would.
It
would
restrict
you
Deb
from
signing
the
master
license
agreement
in
your
capacity
as
acting
mayor
until
they
design
guidelines
had
been
approved
by
the
Common
Council,
which
could
be
one
way
to
perhaps
create
more
consensus
among
the
Common
Council.
Today,
okay,.
K
B
Consensus,
so
the
entire
thing
can
move
forward
at
some
point,
so
by
not
making
any
modification
to
the
original
amendment
and
we
didn't
come
didn't
come
to
consensus
and
that
would
effectively
stop
everything
entirely.
So
the
design
guidelines
and
everything
would
end
if
we
did
not
vote
this
forward
in
any
form
re
go
ahead,
did
I,
say
they're
wrong.
No.
D
No
I
think
that's
approximately
right,
but
I
think
there's
another
potential
benefit
depending
on
council's
objectives
to
moving
forward
in
this
manner
rather
than
tabling,
and
that
is
that
Verizon
has
been
clear
with
us
that
they
are
a
signal
from
the
Common
Council.
That
council
is
willing
to
support
a
master
license
agreement
to
move
this
forward
and
then
until
they
have
that
signal.
What
they've
told
us
is
that
they're
not
willing
to
invest
in
the
engineering
and
design
work
necessary
to
be
ready
for
an
October
installation.
D
If
you
were
to
approve
the
resolution,
as
just
as
as
amended
by
my
Stevens
motion
right
now,
I
think
that
could
be
that
signal
to
Verizon,
saying
yeah.
We
are
looking
to
move
forward
with
5g
and
if
we
just
need
those
design
guidelines
in
place
before
we
actually
sign
the
agreement
with
you.
But
here
you
can
look.
You
can
see
the
Common
Council
did
vote
to
move
the
concept
forward,
subject
to
those
design,
guidelines
and
I.
D
B
A
concern
that
SEF
and
several
others
had
about
meeting
more
opportunity
for
the
public
to
come
forward.
If
we
did
it
that
way,
then
the
design
guidelines
would
have
to
go
through
committee
and
get
approved
by
council
and
then
so
then.
So
there
would
be
then
two
more
meetings
in
which
we
could
discuss
this
in
public,
because
there
would
be
the
committee
meeting
and
then
the
council
meeting
that
this
would
be
so
that
public,
the
public
would
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
this
two
more
times.
I.
Q
D
B
J
B
B
D
Think
I
would
suggest
again
that
the
difference
is
that
if
a
majority
of
the
Common
Council
is
willing
to
vote
for
a
master
license
agreement
to
be
executed
with
Verizon,
that
it
indicates
that
the
city
is
ready
to
move
forward
with
5g
installations.
The
question
just
subject
to
which
particularity
zuv
the
and
that's
what
we
in.
B
B
So
then,
when
we
voted
to
table
it
because
it
split
out
as
a
tie,
what
that
means
is
tabeling.
It
fails.
So
then,
if
we
didn't
modify
this
at
all
the
likelihood
of
this
passing
because
of
the
concerns
that
you
had
about
the
design
guidelines
was
slimmer
and
then
effectively.
It
would
stop
any
additional
conversation
at
all
about,
because
the
entire
project
would
be
stopped
so
now
we're
attempting
to
modify
it
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
what
with
what
everybody
was
trying
to
say,
which
is
I'm
not
comfortable
with
this.
B
Until
we
see
the
design
guidelines
so
we're
trying
to
modify
the
current
resolution
so
that
it
incorporates
the
concerns
of
most
of
us,
which
said
most
of
you,
which
said
the
design
guidelines
are
important
for
me
to
see
first.
So
what
we
could
do
is
make
sure
everyone
is
clear
on
what
the
resolve
says
and
vote
and
see
what
happens.
B
B
Are
voting
on
the
amendment
which
is
to
change
the
language
and
the
resolved
to
very
clearly
indicate
that
I
am
NOT
acting.
They
are
not
authorized
to
sign
any
form
of
agreement
with
Verizon
until
the
design
guidelines
are
to
go
through
committee
and
are
approved
by
Common
Council.
That's
what
the
new
resolved
language
will
say.
B
C
D
H
H
W
U
K
B
W
O
K
B
V
K
A
Y
Okay,
yes,
so
most
of
the
work
and
the
last
month
has
been
off,
everybody
can
hear
me
right.
Yep,
there's
been
all
about
kovat
19.
In
addition
to
that
work,
we
are
trying
to
finish
our
closeout
of
2019,
which
was
interrupted
by
the
virus.
Also
now
rebuild
a
2020
budget
and
also
start
our
work
on
the
2021
budget.
Y
It
will
be
difficult
for
staff
to
maintain
operations,
but
we
will
obviously
do
the
best
that
we
can
do
many.
Many
remaining
staff
members
have
been
stepping
up
in
the
time
of
need.
So
we
appreciate
that
from
all
our
staff
we're
trying
to
keep
the
city
finances
intact,
and
that
will
be
our
main
focus
for
the
foreseeable
future.
Trying
to
make
financial
estimates
in
this
environment
is
so
so
very
difficult.
Y
We
have
so
many
unknowns
that
are
facing
us.
Our
early
estimates
of
loss
and
budget
gap
are
between
4
million
dollars
and
13
million
dollars,
and
they
were
based
on
whatever
little
information
we
had
at
the
time.
The
wide
range
of
estimates
relates
to
the
many
uncertainties
that
face
us
in
the
future.
As
the
days
pass,
we
should
be
able
to
narrow
those
estimates
and
hopefully
come
up
with
more
solid
numbers.
Y
For
instance,
we
will
receive
our
first
May
sales
tax
payment
tomorrow
actually,
and
we
will
also
receive
our
second
May
payment
for
sales
tax
the
next
week.
The
problem
here
is
that
the
sales
tax
collections
they
drag,
so
these
collections
were
mostly
for
the
March
time
period
and
also
a
little
bit
of
the
April
time
period.
So
we
do
expect
that
these
collections
will
start
to
paint
the
picture
of
the
significant
drop
in
sales
tax
that
we
fully
expect
come
June
collections.
Y
We
are
estimating
at
this
point
in
time
about
a
twenty
to
twenty
five
percent
drop
in
sales
tax.
For
the
remainder
of
the
year.
Our
April
sales
tax
collections
were
down
small
amounts,
as
expected
roughly
between
two
and
three
percent,
but
we
expect
may
collections.
Will
reflect
larger,
larger
reductions
in
the
end,
our
actual
first
quarter,
sales
tax
was
up
about
four
percent,
and
that
was
mostly
due
to
strong
activity
in
January
and
February.
Y
Sadly,
this
will
probably
be
the
end
of
the
good
news
for
the
sales
tax
for
quite
a
while.
Our
original
budget
of
fifteen
million
six
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
dollars
for
sales
tax
will
be
reduced
significantly
as
we
move
forward.
As
you
know,
last
last
week
you
approved
the
5m5
million
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
budget
reduction
that
will
amend
our
budget
and
approximately
2.4
million
of
that
will
go
to
reducing
the
sales
tax.
Y
Another
concern
for
us
is
our
cash
flow.
We
will
obviously
closely
monitor
our
cash
flow.
We
expect
the
cash
flow
to
become
an
issue
later
in
the
year
general.
We
have
issues
in
December.
I
would
expect
that
our
cash
flow
issues
may
crop
up
depending
on
how
everything
falls
in
place
may
crop
up
a
little
earlier
this
year,
and
so
because
of
that,
that's
why
we
we
began
to
make
the
super
difficult
decisions
on
the
employees
furloughing
sooner
rather
than
later.
Y
Y
Now
the
April
May
time
period
is
is
kind
of
a
definitely
a
slower
time
period
for
payments,
but
that
does
ramp
up
again
in
July
and
August,
as
we
have
significant
debt
service
payments,
so
that'll
also
factor
into
our
cash
flow,
and
we
have
to
make
those
payments
for
debt
service.
We
have.
We
have
no
choice
in
that
matter.
Y
Some
positive
news,
believe
it
or
not,
is
that
City
Development
is
still
still
very
active,
and
this
is
reflected
in
our
already
collecting
about
90%
of
our
budgeted
building
permit
fees.
So
we've
already
collected
a
million
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
building
permit
fees
so
that
that
is
a
good.
Definitely
a
good
bit
of
good
news.
Y
The
difficult
process
of
forecasting
the
future
revenue
collection
is
almost
impossible
if
we
began
to
open
up
the
economy
here
after
May
15th.
What
does
that
look
like
for
the
city?
We
pretty
much
know
that
it
will
be
a
phased
approach,
but
we
don't
know
for
how
long
and
what
businesses
can
survive
a
phased
approach.
In
the
future,
once
we
open
up
again,
do
we
have
a
flare-up
in
cases
that
will
also
you
know
slow
down
that
opening?
Y
In
addition,
will
we
get
federal
aid
and
how
much
will
we
get?
When
will
we
get
that
and
will
it
be
restricted?
How
will
consumers
act
after
things
start
to
open
up
chances?
Are
they're
not
going
to
run
right
out
and
start
spending
they're,
probably
going
to
be
cautious,
they're
gonna
be
afraid,
obviously,
so
that
spending
habits
definitely
will
change.
Y
Y
We're
not
sure
will
the
economy
ever
fully
come
back
and
recover?
Probably
not
what
is
Cornell
ICU
gonna
do
in
the
fall.
If,
if
they
don't
come
back,
we
will
be
definitely
in
even
worse
financial
shape
so,
depending
on
which
way
all
these
things
fall
will
determine.
You
know
where
our
city
finances
end
up.
Y
So
this
means
probable
change
for
current
and
future
operations.
It
will
mean
more
difficult.
Decisions
for
all
of
us
ahead
has
been
an
extremely
emotional
and
draining
few
weeks
for
not
only
me,
but
everybody
involved
all
staff.
Obviously
it's
been
a
very,
very
difficult
time
period.
I'm
sure
that
heavy
stress
will
continue
for
our
immediate
future.
So
it's
it's
hard.
Y
It's
hard
to
see
the
city
employees
on
on
furlough
and
world,
we're
really
hoping
to
get
those
employees
back
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
all
we
can
do
is
take
this
one
day
at
a
time,
pray
that
everyone
stays
healthy
and
and
hope
for
the
least
amount
of
financial
stress
to
the
city.
So
that's
that's
my
report
at
this
time.
Really
things
haven't
changed.
Y
So,
let's
talk
to
you
a
week
ago,
but
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
as
we
move
forward,
we
will
hopefully
get
some
answers
to
a
lot
of
these
open-ended
questions
that
we
have
related
to
financial
activity.
I
just
I've
never
been
involved
with
something
so
drastic
to
the
city's
finances,
as
as
we
currently
have-
and
we
just
were
we're
hopeful
that
things
will
recover
better
better
for
us.
A
You
I've
got
darker
the
more
you
kept
speaking
it
we
can
physically
darker
might
be
the
Sun
setting.
No,
it's
the
reality
set
again
of
our
position.
These
numbers
are
sobering,
see
if
we
go
through
these
many
times
a
week,
but
still
hearing
them
in
this
context
is
it's
really
tough
and
I
think
important
for
it
to
sink
in
with
us
as
decision-makers,
but
the
city
staff,
as
well
as
the
public?
A
A
K
K
Y
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
really
have
I
haven't
heard
only
you
know,
basically
what
the
governor
has
said,
kind
of
on
a
statewide
basis
and
obviously
central
New
York,
and
this
other
tiers
in
a
little
better
shape
than
some
of
the
other
areas
of
the
state.
So
we
would
be
first
to
first
to
be
opened,
I
think.
But
what
that
looks
like
I'm,
not
sure
and
I
haven't
really
heard
on
a
local
level
what
that
means,
and
they
I
don't
know
if
you've
know
more
than
that.
H
Y
A
A
Y
Yeah,
so
as
far
as
the
parking,
we
basically
were
seeing
very
little
revenue,
obviously
in
over
the
last
month,
we
expect
losses
for
parking
in
the
neighborhood
of
anywhere
from,
and
it
really
depends
on
how
long
we
continue
to
have
the
free
parking
and
then
what
happens
to
the
economy
opening
back
up
and
how
long
that
takes
now
quickly
or
slowly.
That
goes,
but
we
have
a
range
of
about.
You
know
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
a
million
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
lost
parking
revenue
on
the
trash
tags.
Y
Y
Of
probably
I
mean
it's
only
been
a
short
time
period,
but
probably
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
hundred
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
again
depending
on
when
we
start
to
charge
for
that
collection
again,
and
the
thing
about
tags
is
that
it's
it's
out
of
a
separate
fund,
a
solid
waste
fund,
but
that
any
deficit
that
that
fund
generates
comes
back
to
the
the
general
fund.
The
general
fund
has
to
pick
up
that
that
deficit
and
that
fund.
Y
We
had
made
changes
to
our
trash
tag
fees
in
the
last
year
and
those
changes
really
are
reflected
a
much
better
for
2019,
a
much
better
revenue
collection,
and
so
the
fund
was
starting
to
go
in
the
right
direction.
The
funds
been
in
a
deficit
situation
for
quite
some
time,
but
it
was
making
progress.
Progress
towards
that,
but
any
deficit
that
that
fund
generates
has
to
come
and
be
made
up
by
the
general
fund.
Q
A
M
L
N
L
R
C
N
L
L
You
are
a
recommended
that
the
city
of
Ithaca
adopt
proposed
amendments
to
expedite
approval
of
funding
of
activities
responding
to
the
Cova
19
pandemic,
including
the
following
notice
for
public
hearings,
reduce
the
minimum
notice
period
for
public
hearings
to
two
days
from
10
days.
Public
comment
period
on
proposed
uses
of
funds
reduce
the
minimum
time
period
for
opportunity
for
public
comment
on
proposed
uses
of
funds
to
five
days
rather
than
30
days,
as
normally
required.
L
Virtual
public
hearings,
a
virtual
public
hearing,
rather
than
an
in-person
public
hearing,
will
meet
public
hearing
requirements
when
one
national,
local
health
authorities
recommend
social
distancing
and
limiting
public
hearings
for
public
health
reasons
and
to
ritual
hearings,
provide
reasonable
notification
and
access
for
citizens
to
comment
in
real
time
and
three,
a
record
of
comments
received
and
responses
shall
be
made
available
for
public
review
within
five
days.
Following
the
public
hearing
applicability
of
temporary
koba
19
pandemic
amendments
runs
April,
2nd
2020
through
July
31
2021.
V
N
A
K
K
A
better
sense
of
how
you
might
run
that
public
hearing,
because
I'm
certainly
thinking
we
would
want
to
try
and
improve
that
process.
We
would
another
one
I,
don't
know
whether
there
are
other
opportunities
for
you
to
kind
of
learn
from
that
think
about
a
way
to
perhaps
manage
that
a
little
bit
more
effectively
for
the
public.
N
Yes,
actually
IRA
has
done
a
number
I
mean
we've
actually
already
done
public
hearings
that
utilize
zoom
and
allowed
people
to
come
in
through
the
waiting
room.
We
did
that
for
the
presentations
of
the
20/20
action
plan
proposals
and
it
actually
works
very
smoothly.
It
was
a
little
bit
different
in
then
again.
N
Members
of
the
public
did
not
necessarily
want
to
come
in
and
comment,
but
multiple
people
came
in
through
the
waiting
room
to
make
their
presentation.
It's
not
unusual
that
the
HUD
entitlement
program
does
not
get
a
lot
of
public
comment.
We
have
received
some
written
public
comment
which
you
will
be
receiving
in
your
packets
next
month
when
you
take
action
on
this
I'm.
Sorry
on
the
next
item,
which
is
the
rental
assistance?
That's
what
the
public
comments
have
been
about,
but
we
have
done
it
previously
and
it's
in
general.
U
C
M
C
V
L
L
W
A
Okay,
yeah
and
I
think
that'll
be
fine
and
so
will
either
have
so.
What
are
you
area
would
like,
though,
is
a
bit
of
guidance
to
make
sure
that
they're
on
the
right
track,
because
they
might
begin
to
execute
it
after
the
PDC
vote,
but
before
Common
Council
vote,
if
one
can't
be
scheduled,
so
does
everybody
understand
the
program
in
general?
Maybe
I
should
start
from
there,
which
is
that
federal
government's
pushing
out
extra
CDBG
funds
to
cities
to
respond
to
kovat.
We
feel
Hopkins
County,
the
IRA
high
NHS
feels
like
one
very
good
way.
A
190
right
we
have
two
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars.
If
that
money
would
go
to
families
that
we
would
target,
specifically
families
that
make
sixty
percent
or
less
of
the
area
median
income.
The
folks
would
be
qualified
up
to
80
percent
or
less
of
the
area
median
income
and
would
cover
it.
They'd
folks
would
apply
and
folks
who
need
assistance.
We
would
cover
their
rent
for
three
months.
A
I
need
Jeff's
would
administer
the
program
is
they
have?
Some
experience
was
ventolin
s--,
and
we
think
this
would
cover
at
least
50
families,
50
households
rent
for
three
months,
so
drop
in
the
ocean.
As
we
said
it.
The
IRA,
given
that
there's
about
7,000
rental
households
in
the
city
of
Ithaca
we'd
only
be
able
to
help
50
families,
but
we'd
hope
that
this
money
would
get
to
the
people
who
who
most
need
it.
A
K
U
A
N
To
point
out
that
the
the
funding
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
roll
it
out
the
minute
that
the
funding
becomes
available.
If
that
makes
any
difference
to
you
all,
we
do
agree
that
urgency
is
needed
in
being
able
to
have
the
funds
available,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
a
pre
advertising
campaign
before
the
application
process
opens
and
IHS
is
still
working
on
that
framework.
A
L
Just
wanted
to
point
out
that
every
year
council
approves
the
HUD
entitlement
action
plan
and
that
is
I
think
going
to
be
on
the
schedule
for
PE
DC
next
week
and
will
come
then
to
the
June
3rd
council
meeting
and
aneisa.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
believe
those
funds
typically
come
to
the
city
in
early
fall.
So
for
that
program
that
annual
entitlement
grant
program,
we
run
schedule
according
to
what
has
been
done
in
previous
years.
So
what
we're
really
looking
at
now?
L
A
T
A
L
Just
wanted
to
report
that
Tcat
is
moving
ahead
with
their
site
planning.
There
will
be
an
application
for
a
twenty
five
million
dollar
grant
a
build
grant
that
application
is
due
May
18th
and
hopefully
that
money
will
be
made
available.
But
the
planning
for
the
new
tech
facility,
which
is
much
needed,
is
still
moving
forward.
Ducks
Ann
and
I
are
both
on
the
cheek
at
board,
notably.
Q
C
C
D
In
that
case,
the
city's
odds
of
success
were
unfortunately
not
great
and
we
did
lose
that
appeal,
meaning
that
the
variance
is
effectively
granted
and
the
subdivision
does
need
to
be
permitted
to
proceed
on
that
site
which
I'm
going
to
open
the
way
for
development
there,
which
I
know,
has
raised
a
lot
of
concerns
in
that
area.
So
we
fought
this
through
the
trial
court.
We
fought
this
through
the
appellate
court
and
unfortunately
that
is
not
not
worked
out
for
the
city,
so
I
want
to
share
that
information.
D
That's
pretty
much
information.
We
have
not
had
time
to
act
in
any
other
forum
on
that
decision
yet
because
we've
been
managing
all
the
other
aspects
of
the
crisis
surrounding
the
city
at
the
moment,
but
but
we
did
receive
that
decision
and
I
wanted
to
share
that
information,
so
I'm
sorry
to
share
that
result.