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B
B
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
for
those
second
by
Steven,
Smith
I,
don't
think
we've
ever
had
more
members
of
council
second
and
everybody
just
a
coincidence.
Yes,
it's
good
news
to
get
those
two
restaurants
open
again
and
and
serving
folks
as
we
enter
interface
for
that
we're
opening
any
discussion.
A
E
A
B
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
that
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
So
the
next
on
the
big
item
of
business
for
this
council
meeting
is
the
discussion
of
the
2021
budget.
This
is
the
meeting
to
pick
off
the
budget
process
so
I'll
hand
it
over
to
the
chair
of
the
Budget
Committee,
which
of
course,
is
everyone
counsels
in
the
budget
committee.
But
the
chair
is
all
the
person
Damona
great.
A
A
A
F
A
Yes,
okay,
great,
so
we'll
just
walk
through
really
quickly.
I'm,
not
gonna
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
these,
we'll
just
review
it
and
we'll
see.
If
there
are
any
questions
just
from
this
and
then
we'll
get
into
sort
of
the
heart
of
our
conversation.
I
know
Steve's
prepared
some
information
for
us
this
evening
as
well
and
I
do
have
preliminary
survey
results
which
we
will
talk
about
in
mid
meeting.
So
this
was
what
we
had
put
together.
A
A
G
A
H
F
A
Anything
on
the
expense:
this
is
it
again.
This
is
information
we've
kind
of
seen
before
when
we
had
our
early
conversation
about
making
some
budget
adjustments
and
furloughing
and
whatnot
that
we
are
expecting
a
pretty
significant
loss
that
is
directly
related
to
the
impacts
of
the
pandemic.
Right
now
we're
looking
at
about
thirteen
million
dollar
gap.
These
are
just
projections.
Steve
is
going
to
have
a
lot
more
information
about
this
a
little
bit
later
on
in
the
meeting.
What
you
want
to
look
at
is
that
our
sales
tax
is
significantly
lower
than
what
was
budgeted.
A
A
We
also
wanted
to
show
you
where
we
spend
our
money.
The
majority
of
it
goes
through
to
Public
Works
and
then
emergency
services,
police
and
fire,
and
then
next
youth
period,
and
you
can
see
when
we
built
the
budget
for
2020.
Our
main
priorities
were
streets
and
sidewalks,
Public,
Safety
and
youth
programming.
A
We
have
had
obviously
some
very
engaging
and
thoughtful
conversations
with
the
community
about
our
Police
Department,
so
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
put
some
information
out
there
about
how
the
break
down
of
we
are
current
funding
to
this
department
is,
you
can
see
the
total
spent?
You
can
see
the
breakdown
and
again
as
the
city
overall
police
department
as
well.
The
biggest
chunk
of
that
money
is
spent
on
staff
and
benefits.
F
F
I
J
J
A
I
J
Is
they
they
actually
police,
police
and
fire
our
highest
benefit
expenses
for
department?
They
workers
comp,
are
much
higher.
Pension
costs
are
much
higher.
So
those
are
you
know:
they're
average
per
employees
more
like
65
to
70
percent
compared
to
a
regular
employee,
which
would
be
around
52%,
so
they're,
much
higher.
Okay,.
F
Deb
can
I
make
a
point
on
the
next
slide,
just
just
where
you,
where
you
have
the
69
funded
positions,
I
just
I,
think
it
just
should
be
made
clear
that
that
the
eight
that
are
on
leave
and
the
six
vacant
are
are
taken
away
from
that
69.
So
that
leaves
like
basically
55.
You
know
kind
of
active,
active
police
officers
out
of
the
out
of
the
$60.
A
To
break
down
a
little
bit
youth
in
Community
Programs,
this
is
a
little
bit
harder
because
a
lot
of
these
exist
in
different
lines
and
different
sections
of
the
budget.
So
I
just
tried
to
give
a
snapshot
to
our
investment
in
these
programs.
You'll
see
parks.
The
golf
course
we
isolated
out
because
there
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
around
the
golf
course,
especially
in
terms
of
subsidies
in
that
piece,
youth,
programming,
G
AK,
and
then
we
added
in
just
some
additional
information
about
Southside
and
the
community
outreach
worker.
A
A
We
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
of
the
community
programs
we
have
already
invested
in.
This
is
a
lot
of
the
conversation
that
we're
hearing
is
about.
What
are
we
asking
our
officers
to
do?
What
are
some
of
these
programs
that
we
could
be
looking
at?
That
might
support
or
supplement
or
replace?
Some
of
the
work,
so
this
is
just
a
summary
of
some
related
programs.
You
know
this
slide
is
kind
of
busy,
but
all
in
all,
our
kind
of
three-year
total
for
investment
and
community
programs
was
six
hundred
and
thirty,
eight
thousand
rounded.
A
A
Know
no
that
was
not
included
in
the
previous
well,
the
community
outreach
see.
This
is
what
it's
hard
yeah
yeah
worker
was,
but,
like
my
brother's
keeper
initiative,
isn't
particularly
separated
out
so
I
folded
into
Jack,
and
then
these
others
reach
and
lead
in
mental
health
court.
We
don't
have
human
service
agency.
So
a
lot
of
these
things
are
things
that
the
city
has
chosen
to
contribute
to
so.
K
A
A
And
we
just
wanted
to
look
a
little
bit
at
year-over-year
comparisons
to
show
the
average
annualized
increase.
We
went
back
to
2012
and
in
that
timeframe
we
have
had
a
1.4
percent
increase
in
funding
to
police
and
then
a
an
average
of
3.2
to
youth
services
kind
of
collectively
so
youth
Bureau
G
Act.
So
those
are
just
the
data
slides
that
we
put
together.
A
You
will
see
that
we
need
to
do
a
part
two
just
based
on
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
on
the
survey
so
at
the
end
of
the
next
slide
show
where
we
talk
about
survey.
Results
I
have
a
proposed
list
of
what
we
need
to
include
in
budget
basics,
part
2.
So
if
there's
more
information
that
you
think
should
be
presented
in
this
format,
we
will
get
to
that
in
this
meeting.
A
J
Right
so
I'll
give
you
the
the
newest
and
latest
and
greatest
news
that
we
have.
The
one
thing
about
this
whole
pandemic
is
the
fact
that
we
have
so
many
unknowns,
and
they
just
it
seems
like,
even
though
you
know
work
we're
crawling
through
time.
It's
the
unknowns,
grow
and
grow
and
grow.
It's
it's
unbelievable,
obviously,
never
been
through
this
trying
to
project
into
the
future
is
so
difficult
and
has
been
very
difficult
to
date.
But
I
will
let
you
know
what
I
know
at
this
point
in
time
on.
J
If
everything
went
wrong,
that's
where
we
would
end
up
certainly
based
on
activity
so
far,
and
you
know
what
we
estimate
for
the
rest
of
2020
I
think
the
trending
is
towards
the
lower
end
of
that
scale,
but
I
think
neighborhood
of
5
6
million
still
is
realistic,
and
you
know
that
we
did
at
the
end
of
April.
We
did
a
budget
adjustment,
5.4
million,
so
that's
right
in
the
ballpark
of
where
things
are
starting
to
fall
in
line
based
on
activity
to
date
and
our
projections
for
the
rest
of
2020.
J
J
The
rest
of
the
money
comes
about
mid-december,
to
make
up
that
two
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
I'm
not
sure
how
they
would
go
about
doing
the
aid
cut
to
us
chances
are,
they
would
hold
withhold
the
September
payment
and
then
finish
the
cut
off
the
rest
of
the
reduction
in
aid
in
December.
So
we
use
that
money
from
the
state
in
our
lowest
month
of
cash
flow,
which
is
December
because
we
are
running.
You
know
right
at
the
end
of
our
tax
situation.
J
Obviously
January
tax
collections
start
up
again
and
in
addition,
we
also
have
a
large
pension
bill
that
we
generally
try
to
pay
in
December.
So
we
we
offset
that
aid
with
our
payment
to
pension,
even
though
the
pension
payment
is
higher,
so
we
could
see
ourselves
in
a
little
bit
of
a
cash
flow
issue
in
December
if
things
fall
into
place.
J
The
other
situation
that
is
unknown
is
the
federal
aid.
Will
we
get
any
federal
aid?
When
might
that
come?
How
much
will
it
be?
Will
it
be
restrictive
in
nature?
So
we
really
don't
know
at
this
point.
When
that
might
happen,
we
were
told
that
maybe
sometime
in
July,
we
would
find
out
about
federal
aid.
Obviously
that's
important
piece
for
us
to
help
us
through
these
revenue
losses.
J
Another
unknown
is
what
happens
with
Cornell.
Do
they
come
back
in
the
fall,
seems
like
it's
it's
trending
towards
they
will
come
back,
but
when
will
they
come
back?
How
long
will
he
be
here?
Those
questions
are
still
certainly
unknown
at
this
point.
In
addition,
obviously
we're
in
phase
3
soon
to
be
in
phase
4,
and
what
does
that
all
mean
to
the
economy?
Even
in
phase
4,
you
know
we'll
see
a
slow
phase
in
of
the
businesses
that
can
come
on
and
phase
4.
So
that's
going
to
take
time.
J
J
J
We
just
don't
know
these
questions
and
and
what
the
spending
habits
of
the
consumer
will
be
during
this
recovery
phase.
In
addition,
will
there
be
a
second
wave
of
the
virus?
Obviously
in
our
county
and
our
community,
the
virus
hasn't
been
too
terrible.
But
if
you
look
where,
where
things
have
opened
up
fully,
obviously
there's
resurgence
and
and
that
virus,
and
that
is
gonna-
have
an
impact
on
our
economy.
J
So
we
would
expect
that
when
things
fully
get
open
up
here
that
possibly
we
would
see
a
resurgence
of
that
virus
and
so
what
impacts
will
that
have
on
our
economy?
So
those
are
the
questions
that
remain
unknown
for
2020
numbers,
what
we
know
to
date:
I'm
the
sales
tax
revenue
we
budgeted,
fifteen
million
six
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
dollars
for
2020.
J
We
started
out
very
good
in
2020
and
obviously,
since
mid-march
we've
been
going
downhill
steadily,
we
have
collected
almost
five
million
dollars
to
date
and
overall,
we
are
ten
percent
lower
than
if
you
compare
this
same
time
period
to
2019,
so
we're
10
percent
lower,
which
is
about
just
under
$500,000
to
date
and
that's
including
the
first
quarter.
Our
most
current
payment,
which
was
last
week,
came
in
at
46%
lower.
We
have
two
more
payments
in
June
and
they
will
come
in
next
week.
J
We
will
expect
those
to
be
down
because
they
are
still
from
collections
in
March.
So
since
mid-march,
our
sales
tax
is
down
about
six
hundred
and
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars,
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
to
be
lower,
we
will
have
1
July
payment
and
that
will
be
related
mostly
to
May
and
then
we'll
have
to
August
payments,
and
that
will
be
mostly
related
to
June
activity.
J
So
we
will
see
probably
the
lowest
point
of
our
sales
tax
coming
up
in
the
next
week
to
two
weeks
and
in
those
two
to
three
payments
should
be
the
the
lowest
level
and
then
because
things
started
to
open
up
recently,
we
should
start
to
see
some
increase
in
our
sales
tax,
although
still
much
lower
than
we
anticipated
early
on
and,
of
course,
a
lot
of
these.
A
lot
of
these
collections
of
sales
tax
really
depend
on
the
type
of
filer.
J
We
have
different
types
of
filers
some
people
file
on
a
monthly
basis,
some
on
a
quarterly
basis.
Some
do
it
through
EFT
type
payments.
Others
don't
do
it
that
way,
and
we
also
know
that
some
of
the
timing
will
be
off
because
some
businesses
weren't
open
or
they
were
pushing
off
their
activity
and,
of
course
it
was
all
much
lower
than
we
anticipated.
So
the
sales
tax
number
is
going
to
be
a
challenging
one.
J
J
Today
we
have
collected
849
thousand,
and
so,
if
you
project
that
and
look
to,
you
know
based
on
our
activity
to
date
where
we
are
off
budget
by
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we
are
losing
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
month
since
mid-march.
So
obviously
an
important
revenue
source
for
us
expenses
obviously
are
still
still
there,
but
because
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
the
capital
activity
for
the
garage
is
very
expensive
to
to
maintain
those
garages
and
build
those
garages.
J
The
one
note
I
can
mention
is
that
the
parking
rates
will
be
adjusted
and
will
be
starting
up.
I
believe
this
Friday
and
I
think
they'll
start
out
at
a
fifty
cents
compared
to
the
dollar,
fifty
that
we
normally
charge.
So
so
that's
you
know
some
good
news
and
we'll
obviously
monitor
those
collections
and
have
the
ability
to
to
make
changes
to
those
rates
as
we
move
forward
and
see
how
the
supply
and
demand
to
parking
falls
in
place
over
the
next
few
months
and
related
to
parking
fines.
J
Fines
are
down
about
eighty
nine
thousand
dollars
to
date
and
also
we
all
know
about
you
services.
The
revenues
are
obviously
not
occurring
or
in
very
limited
capacity,
but
on
the
flip
side,
the
expenses
for
programming
is
also
at
a
very
limited
capacity,
so
that's
being
offset
there,
the
one
bright
spot
that
I've
talked
about
before
the
building
building
department
revenue.
Although
the
fees
other
than
building
building
permits
are
down
about
a
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
dollars.
J
We
expect
that
now
that
we
have
pretty
much
full
staff
for
housing
inspections
that
that
number
will
will
be
made
up
here
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
building
the
department,
the
permit
revenue
is
91%
collected
of
budget.
So
so
that's
you
know.
We've
collected
a
million
two
hundred,
almost
a
million
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
our
our
budget
for
2020.
So
that's
a
an
important
piece:
that's
helping,
certainly
cash
flow,
but
helping
our
future
assessments
and
also
helping
our
revenue
collections
for
2020.
J
So
that's
kind
of
a
look
at
the
revenue
side
of
of
the
2020
activity.
Currently
on
the
furlough
side,
of
course,
you
know
we.
We
started
out
furloughing,
roughly
87
employees.
We
have
returned
about
fourteen
employees,
I
believe
to
date,
so
we
still
have
a
significant
number,
roughly
71
employees
on
furlough,
currently
our
net
savings
and
furlough.
On
a
since
we
put
this
in
place,
which
was
May.
I
J
So
it
was,
it
will
just
be
based
on
actual
employments
employees
out
on
unemployment.
So,
if,
if
we
happen
to
be
able
to
bring
everybody
back
by
the
end
of
by
the
end
of
2020,
our
2020
2021
budget
would
we
would
expect
to
be
roughly
the
same
as
it
normally
is
in
a
normal
basis,
we're
spending
anywhere
from
thirty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
unemployment
insurance,
so
that
is
it
isn't
based
on
you
know
what
claims
we
file
it's
based
on
actual
claims.
J
But
so
in
some
cases
what
happens
is
we
have?
You
would
have
unemployment
insurance
that
you
would
have
to
pay
based
on
a
claim
period,
you
know,
and
so
they
would.
They
would
take
that
and
say:
oh
you're,
your
actual
claims
we're
hire
for
this
period
of
time
and
then
you
would
be
seen
increased
expenses
even
if
your
unemployment
actual
claims
weren't
there.
So.
J
J
I
J
D
J
So
what
happens?
Is
we
have
collections
in
January
and
June,
so
we
collect
throughout
January
and
then
we
collect
throughout
June.
So
our
second
collection
is
is
starting
to
wrap
up
now
as
we're
getting
closer
to
the
end
of
June.
So
that
will
be
then
we'll
have
our
full
collection
of
tax
payments
by
you
know
early
July,
so.
J
So
so
far
we
haven't
seen
any
negative
collections.
I'll
get
that
report
sometime,
probably
mid,
July
and
then
we'll
see.
Hopefully
you
know
we
run
generally
about
a
one-percent
payments
that
aren't
made
to
us
during
a
regular
collection.
So
hopefully
it
will
stay
in
that
neighborhood
and
we'll
have
to
see
you
know.
Certainly
next
January
it
could
be
a
different
story,
as
people
have
had
a
full
year,
or
you
know
several
months
with
with
kovat
activity
and
and
lack
of
jobs,
and
that
type
of
thing
so
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
impacts.
J
J
Right
so
I
didn't
talk
about
water
and
sewer
2020
activity.
I
can
tell
you
so
far
to
date
on
water
and
sewer.
We
haven't
really
seen
much
change
in
revenue,
but
I
do
know
that
the
next
quarter
quarterly
bills.
Our
consumption
is
down
and
the
bills
themselves
will
be
down,
especially
from
Cornell,
obviously,
because
of
the
lack
of
activity
up
there.
D
K
K
J
And
so
we
had
a
budget
of
fifteen
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
you
know
that
will
so
we'll
more
look
more
like
a
13
million
or
a
little
less
than
that,
depending
on
obviously
how
things
really
come
into
play
in
the
end
of
the
year,
but
yeah
we're
projecting
a
pretty
significant
hit
in
sales
tax.
Okay,.
K
J
And
so
right,
and
so
when
we
tried
to
make
these
projections
back
in,
you
know
March
when
we
made
that
range
of
4
million
to
13
million.
We
also
had
some
projections
that
showed
much
worse,
and
so
what
we're
finding
is
that,
of
course,
you
know
we're.
Not
we're
not
done
here.
There's
is
that,
like
everything's
over
we're
still
going
to
see
lower
collections,
but
the
trend
we're
currently
with
data
that
we
have
in
hand
is
that
we'll
be
on
the
lower
end
of
that
range.
B
That
not
all
the
students
left
out
of
them
stayed
in
town.
They
kept
ordering
out
a
lot
of
the
restaurants,
continued
to
deliver,
kept,
buying
gas,
kept
going
to
the
grocery
store,
etc,
and
that
internet
sales
increased.
We
now
get
sales
tax
revenue
from
those
internet
sales,
you
think,
is
a
combination
of
those
factors
led
to
the
very
bad
scenario
instead
of
the
apocalyptic
scenario.
Yes,.
J
J
E
I
had
Laura
next
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I'm,
seeing
in
my
neighborhood
more
students
returning
I,
think
some
had
leases,
beginning
June
15th
so
have
decided
in
some
cases.
Perhaps
they've
had
enough
at
home
time
with
family
and
they're
ready
to
be
back
here,
as
they
await
the
announcement
on
final
plans
from
Cornell.
So
we
are
starting
to
see
people
moving
back
into
town.
I,
see
that
in
Fall
Creek
in
my
neighborhood
I
also
had
a
question
because
I
thought
you
Parsons
is
here.
L
Yeah,
the
three
recruits
have
been
back
since
the
first
I
think
it's
June
1st.
They
came
back
right.
The
Academy
didn't
fully
open.
They
did
distance-learning
and
they've
been
doing
distance
learning
up
to
up
until
tomorrow,
and
then
they
go
back
to
Montour
Falls
on
Monday
there
because
of
the
delay
and
opening
up
the
Academy
physically
opening
it
has
pushed
their
completion
date
a
little
farther
back
than
we
expected.
They
should
be
done
on
July
16th
as
their
last
day
at
the
academy.
L
G
Thanks
dad
so
Steve
thanks
for
that
update,
I
had
a
question
about
the
state
aid,
so
you
said
you're
expecting
it
to
be
20%.
Less.
You
remind
me
what
that
figure
was,
and
presumably
you're,
going
to
build
that
into
your
projections,
because
well
the
sales
tax
news
is
good,
that
stay
age
reduction.
I,
don't
think
we
had
figured
that
into.
That
figure.
Is
that
right?
No.
J
J
A
twenty
percent
hit
would
be
about
what
five
hundred
and
twenty
twenty
two
thousand
dish
and
I
should
remind
everyone
that
the
state
has
made
it
known
that
they
will
evaluate
their
budget
in
financial
activity
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
they
can
take
additional
amount.
So
the
20
percent
that
I
mentioned
earlier
is
only
based
on
what
we're
currently
seen
that
they
did.
Two
cities
that
have
year
end
date
of
six
thirty,
twenty
twenty,
but
very
there
is
a
you
know,
a
pretty
good
bet
that
it
could
be
higher
than
that
20
percent.
A
G
M
M
J
Yeah
so
so
I
I
can
get
they
used
to
send
us
all
the
activity
on
a
regular
basis,
and
then
they
said
no
we'll
just
send
it
to
you
once
in
a
while,
but
like
I
can
get
the
data.
It's
the
one
of
the
problems
is
it's
about
six
months
old
when
I
get
it.
In
addition,
I
can't
release
data
that
kind
of
gives
away.
It's
pretty
much
confidential
information
I
can
get
it.
J
I
can
give
a
general
sense,
so
I'll
be
asking
for
that
data
and
eventually
I'll,
be
able
to
kind
of
see
what
online
sales
are
doing.
But
I
think
you
know
that's.
We
did
start
to
see
because
I
think
it
was
2019
mid
year
so
that
they
put
into
place
this
additional
revenue
source
that
they
could
use
to
help
governments,
and
so
we
did
see
obviously
increasing
revenue
as
a
result
of
that
last
year
and
early
this
year,
but
I
think
that's
certainly
helping
our
situation
right
now,
but
yeah
I.
Hopefully
at
some
point.
F
A
J
Yeah
I
mean
it.
Doesn't
it's
it's
one
of
the
hardest
things
to
try
to
figure
out,
because
you
know
it
really
depends
on
I
think
really
depends
on
the
state
and
federal
aid
pieces
and
then
the
ultimate
sales
tax
revenue
source,
but
I
think
we
can
just
say
that
there
is
the
potential
that
we
might
have
to
cut
more
if
things
if
the
recovery
doesn't
go
as
well
as
it
could,
or
you
know
a
second
wave
comes
through
and
we
have
to
do
further.
J
J
A
Okay,
so
do
you
want
to
move
on
to
any
sort
of
forecasting
2021
and
then
we
were
trying
to
keep
this
meeting
to
about
an
hour
and
a
half
if
that's
possible
and
I
do
have
some
initial
survey
results
that
I
want
to
share
as
well?
So
why
don't
you
give
us
a
preview
of
2021
and
then
we'll
go
from
there?
Okay,.
J
Yeah,
so
so
as
far
as
2021
budget
I'm
in
the
process
of
trying
to
put
together
the
the
budget
guidelines,
as
you
know,
we
generally
in
June,
put
out
guidelines
to
the
departments
to
help
them
kind
of
streamline
their
process
and
figure
out.
You
know
what
they
need
to
submit
in
August,
we
determined
that
we
wanted
to
wait
as
long
as
possible
to
try
to
get
as
much
data
in
here
before
we
made
made
those
decisions
and
put
out
that
budget
guideline,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
that.
J
We
hope
to
have
that
or
I
hope
to
have
a
recommendation
at
some
point
next
week.
If
all
goes
well,
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
it's
not
good.
It's
going
to
be
a
zero
or
lower.
Certainly
at
this
point
in
time,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
much
I
can
also
tell
you
that
we,
you
know,
obviously
have
the
same
pressures
that
we
normally
have
increasing,
increasing
labor
costs,
increasing
retirement
costs,
increasing
health
insurance
costs
and
increasing
debt
load.
J
So
all
those
things
are
a
normal
course
for
us
as
we
look
on
a
normal
basis
of
budgeting.
But
now
you
throw
in
the
fact
that
you're,
probably
looking
at
significant
reduction
in
sales,
tax
reduction
and
possibly
significant
reduction
in
state
aid
and
other
reductions
and
various
other
revenue
sources.
This
makes
it
a
course
for
difficult
times
challenging
times
just
facing
those
lower
revenues
and
higher
expenses
is
going
to
make
it
very
difficult
and
then
throw
on
top
of
that,
whatever
happens
with
the
virus,
you
know
until
a
vaccine.
J
If
and
when
that
ever
occurs,
that
will
probably
be
the
you
know
end,
but
the
impacts
on
the
economy
will
be
lingering
well
beyond
any
vaccine.
So
we
can,
you
know,
fully
expect
2021
and
even
beyond
that
to
be
difficult
times
for
the
city.
I
can
tell
you.
We
asked
for
an
early
look
at
the
assessments
if,
as
as
you
all
know,
because
you're
City
residents,
you
know
that
the
assessments
in
the
city
were
reassessed
for
assessment
period.
This
year,
which
we
lates
to
your
payment
of
property
taxes
in
2021.
J
We
we
have
a
current
taxable
assessment
that
looks
like
it's
going
up
about
eight
point:
two
six
percent.
However
I
can
tell
you
and
talking
with
the
county
that
there's
many
grievances
and
then
there
Co
vyd
thrown
into
that.
So
we
would
expect
that
number
would
be
reduced
by
say
10
to
20
million
dollars,
so
we're
we're
looking
at
still
significant
increase
in
our
assessment,
probably
around
the
7%
mark,
which
would
increase.
Obviously
we
we
don't
expect
to
use
that
full
amount.
J
But
if
you
look
at
the
the
same
tax
rate
with
a
7%
increase
in
assessments,
you
would
be
looking
at
about
a
million
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
new
new
revenue
there.
That
could
be
generated.
Of
course,
that's
only
if
you
use
to
seven
percent.
We
obviously
know
we
have
a
tax
cap
in
place
at
probably
two
percent
or
it's
it's
two
percent
of
the
lower
of
the
CPI
which
the
CPI
is
running
lower
than
that
at
this
point.
So
it's
good
probably
going
to
be
less
than
two
percent
cap
for
2021.
J
So
we
do
know
that
the
assessments
have
come
up.
That's
about
the
only
number
that,
and
even
that
number
isn't
solid
at
this
point
we
will
we
will
get
a
more
solid
number
neck.
July
first
is
when
we
see
that
that
number
from
the
county
assessments
office,
so
we
would
expect
to
see
that
sometime
next
week,
but
that
is
that
is
the
only
number
we
kind
of
have
an
idea
about.
I
will
also
tell
you
that
the
trends
for
health
insurance
are
generally
in
the
six
to
seven
percent
increase
range.
J
So
that's
significant.
However,
the
consortium
the
Health
consortium
has
done
very
well
over
the
past
many
years
that
it's
been
in
place.
It
has
stabilized
our
rates
and
we
are
looking
at
hopefully
using
some
of
those
funds
to
help
stabilize
our
rate
a
little
more
than
2021.
So
hopefully
that'll
be
a
little
a
little
pressure,
less
pressure
off
of
that
trend
of
7%.
J
So
we
might
see
you
know
a
les
increases
their
but
still
increases
nonetheless,
and
health
insurance
cost
and
then
pension
costs
I
would
expect
would
be
what
go
would
go
higher,
mainly
because
investment
rates
are
down.
So
the
state's
investing
of
those
funds
to
fully
the
fully
fund
the
retirement
system
are
are
down,
so
we
would
expect
those
pension
costs
that
go
up
as
well,
so
many
pressures
and
those
normal
pressures
on
us
for
2021.
D
D
J
Yeah,
so
you
know
in
the
past,
we've
done
significant
refinancing
of
a
lot
of
our
debts
and
it
saved
us
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
over
time
and
into
the
future,
and
so
right
now
we
have
pretty
much
exhausted
our
ability
to
to
refinance.
In
addition,
they
are
not
allowing
they
made
a
change
last
year
as
part
of
the
whole
tax
changes
that
we
we
are
no
longer
able
to
to
refinance
at
this
point
in
time,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
one
thing
that
they
have
allowed
us
to
do
is
is
go
short-term
longer.
J
So
generally,
you
can
go
short-term
notes,
that's
one-year
notes
for
five
years.
They
now
allow
that
to
go
for
seven
years.
That's
so
that
will
help
us
in
the
future,
because,
with
short-term
notes
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this.
Last
time
we
discussed
it
short-term
notes.
Your
interest
rate
is
lower
than
when
you
go
long-term
with
your
notes
or
permanent
financing,
so
that
will
be
interest,
cost
savings
for
our
debt
service
in
the
future.
J
I
know
there
are
some
other
requests
to
make
changes
in
legislation
to
try
to
help
some
of
the
other
facets
of
bonding
those.
But
those
are
just
two
proposals
at
this
time
and
nothing
else
other
than
the
extension
of
the
short-term
notes.
Nothing
else
has
come
come
to
the
surface
for
approval
at
this
point
in
time.
So.
D
J
It's
it's
a
mostly
federal
and
state
legislative
action
restriction
that
isn't
allowing
us
to
do
too
much
with
our
our
debt.
So,
like
I
said,
the
only
change
was
that
change
to
extend
the
length
the
time
that
you
can
go
short
term,
which
it,
which
is,
which
is
helpful,
certainly
allows
anything
that
would
be
coming
up
against
that
five
year
window
to
go
another
few
years
and
that
interest
cost
would
be
much
better
than
that
would
otherwise
have
been
for
us.
So.
A
A
So
this
was
as
of
noon
today.
328
responses,
it
just
continually
creeps
up
right
before
the
meeting
I
checked
we're
at
343,
so
I
think
it's
gotten
some
pretty
good
distribution
in
the
community.
Thank
you
to
everybody
that
shared
the
information,
which
is
very
quickly
very
pleased
to
see
that
about
76%
of
the
people
that
answered
have
identified,
that
they
live
in
the
city
of
Ithaca
and
then
another
work
in
the
city
of
Ithaca
at
almost
55%,
so
we're
getting
good
representation
of
people
who
have
AG
ongoing
active
being
in
the
city.
A
Wanted
to
show
you
this
was
the
question
where
we
asked
everybody
to
pretend
they
were
balancing
the
city
budget
and
give
them
the
opportunity
to
allocate
percentages
to
where
they
would.
We
did
have
a
few
questions
come
in
about
why
didn't
ours
add
up
to
100
percent
it
added
up
to
only
98
percent.
So
so
those
of
you
that
asked
that
question.
Thank
you
for
being
so
diligent
and
looking
through
the
survey,
but
there's
kind
of
two
reasons
for
that
one
is.
A
There
is
a
little
bit
of
our
budget
as
you
can
see
that
that
large
slice,
that's
unallocated
and
what
we
were
really
trying
to
do
is
give
a
reference
to
people
to
how
much
we
currently
allocate
to
that
particular
area.
And
then
we
thought
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
if
people
like
it
would
have
been
really
easy
to
just
go
through
and
put
exactly
the
same
numbers
that
we
already
designate
to
those
departments,
but
doing
it.
This
way
really
force
people.
They
had
that
extra
2%
that
they
could
figure
out
where
to
put
it.
A
So
that's
what
helped
us
kind
of
see
where
some
of
them
got.
The
the
desires
were
the
people
that
provided
input,
so
I
just
very
quickly
gave
a
little
visual
cues
to
some
of
the
ones.
So
you'll
see
public
works
a
little
bit
up.
They
give
a
little
bit
more
to
public
works.
I
think
you've
heard
the
sentiment
in
our
community
for
reducing
funding
to
police.
So
it's
not
a
surprise
that
that
went
down
significantly.
A
The
fire
departments
stayed
static.
Youth
and
Community
Services
also
not
a
surprise
that
there
is
a
desire
to
see
that
allocation
go
up
to
a
higher
percentage
and
everything
else
pretty
much
stayed
the
same.
It
looks
like
a
lot
of
people
when
they
had
that
extra
percentage
to
play
with
some
people
also
clearly
use
some
of
it
for
planning
and
building,
because
that
went
up
just
a
little
bit
so
and
I
think
it's
just
easiest
to
represent
this.
In
this
way
this
this
over
here
you'll
see
the
average
number.
A
This
asked
how
much
in
taxes
were
you
willing
to
pay
again,
not
surprising
that
most
people
would
prefer
to
not
have
to
pay
any
more
in
taxes?
I
think
we
know
that
that's
not
a
reality,
but
we
had
about
twenty
six
percent
say
zero,
but
it
is
interesting
to
see
the
number.
You
know
that
hover
around
one
and
two
percent
and
the
I
think
of
you
know,
fifteen
percent
is
actually
you
know
willing
to
pay
five
percent
or
more.
A
The
next
we
just
gave
several
options
that
would
allow
us
to
balance
the
budget
for
2021.
So
what
you'll
see
here
is
increase
property
taxes
was
the
sort
of
of
all
of
the
choices.
What
seemed
like,
the
one
people
were
most
okay
with,
but
still
they're
all
kind
of
close
reduce
city
services
such
as
hour
hours
or
frequency
of
service
and
increase
user
fees
for
city
services
and
so
you'll,
see
in
this
other
I
compiled
what
I
did
is
I
did
I'm
happy
to
send
all
the
raw
data
to
anyone
that
wants
it.
A
It's
pretty
voluminous
but
I'm
happy
to
share
that
with
all
of
you,
but
these
are
the
themes
that
I
use
teased
out
of
what
some
of
the
answers
in
that
other
were.
So
these
are
just
common
responses
that
were
mentioned
in
a
number
of
different
ways:
don't
increase
fines
that
would
impact
low-income
residents
or
families.
Cornell
should
increase
contribution
to
the
city,
implement
sliding
skills
for
fees
wherever
possible,
crowdsource
funding
or
solicit
donors
for
support
of
valued
city
programs.
A
This
would
be
an
excellent
time
for
me
to
pause
and
say
a
big
thank
you
to
purity,
ice
cream
and
the
Legacy
Foundation
or
allowing
us
to
now
be
able
to
open
the
Alex
Haley
pool
for
the
summer.
So
those
of
you
that
had
that
suggestion
we're
already
working
on
that,
so
we
are
so
thankful
to
those
great
local
organizations.
So
everyone
should
go
walk
over
to
purity
after
this
meeting
and
go
get
some
ice
cream
right.
A
Allow
for
people
to
prepay
or
over
pay
property
taxes
really
interesting.
The
number
of
people
that
had
a
variation
of
this
suggestion
was
you
know
that
they,
if
they
have
more
means
they
would
be
willing
to
overpay
or
or
prepay
use.
Volunteers
for
city
programs
was
fairly
popular
and
then
reduced
funding
to
police
I
think
we
knew
was
going
to
come
forward.
A
Then
we
had
several
open-ended
question.
A
couple
open-ended
questions.
We
asked
about
efficiencies
reduction
in
services
cost
savings
in
those
pieces.
These
are
the
themes
that
emerged
out
of
that
one:
a
moratorium
on
salary
increases
for
all
staff
and
a
renegotiation
of
union
contracts.
Those
were
sort
of
usually
mentioned
together.
A
Cutback
permanently
on
mowing
as
a
cost
savings
and
a
sustainability
measure,
increase
parking
fees
and
fines.
Lots
of
suggestions
about
the
golf
course
some
suggestions
to
eliminate
it
entirely,
some
to
not
subsidize
it
to
figure
out
how
to
have
it,
pay
for
itself
or
others
just
outright
suggested,
selling
it
to
a
private
entity,
shared
government
services.
A
lot
was
mentioned
about
duplicated
facilities
and
then
the
next
bullet
down
you'll
see
actual
services
with
the
county
or
other
municipalities
like
exploring
things
like
admin,
IT,
payroll,
etc.
Are
there
any
opportunities
for
sharing
services?
A
There
lots
of
conversation
around
tax
abatements.
So
that's
something
that
we
definitely
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
explaining
how
those
work,
what
that
means
and
what
the
offsets
are
for
the
sort
of
the
investment
that
we
make
with
the
abatement.
So
that's
definitely
on
my
list
to
provide
some
additional
information
for
the
public
about
that
and
then
outsource
trash
and
yard
waste.
A
Pickup
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
talked
about
the
many
many
suggestions
that
were
related,
but
I
allowed
of
the
suggestions
were
hard
to
separate
out
from
policies
and
training
and
procedures
and
other
pieces
and
to
pull
the
finance
piece
out
of
that.
So
well
you
don't
see
police
and
the
common
themes
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
publicly
stated
that
we
are
taking
the
data
from
this
survey.
A
Then
we
had
do
you
have
any
suggestions
for
generating
revenue
lots
of
ideas
here,
fines
are
fees
for
gorge
rescue
came
up
a
few
times.
A
lot
of
people
would
be
ok
with
parking
fees
increasing,
but
then
there
was
also
a
lot
of
people.
That
said,
eliminate
parking
fees
entirely
so
that
was
kind
of
a
wash.
A
A
You
know,
wouldn't
we
all
I,
don't
know
if
in
this
current
situation,
that's
feasible,
but
for
future
revenue,
perhaps
there's
a
lot
of
suggestions
on
billing
or
promoting
this
area
as
a
safer
area
for
tourism,
with
all
of
the
outdoor
options
that
you
have
for
recreation
that
are
deemed
to
be
potentially
a
little
bit
safer
sporting
events,
things
that
will
increase
sales
tax
revenue
and
help
local
businesses.
This
was
also
mentioned
a
few
times
installed:
traffic
cameras
that
track
and
issues
tickets
like
so.
A
If
you
people
blow
through
red
lights
or
stop
signs
that
it
takes
a
picture
and
Auto
generates
a
ticket
to
people,
I
think
there
is
a
presumption
that
they
that
would
replace
people
that
are
actually
writing
tickets
charge,
higher
fees
or
penalties
for
vacant
homes
and
businesses.
More
public-private
partnerships
for
city
facilities
and
services
charge.
All
some
people
are
okay
with
charging
everyone.
A
Some
people
suggested
only
out
of
County
visitors
to
enter
city
parks,
a
lot
of
people
suggested,
adding
in
food
trucks,
concessions,
vendors,
etc
in
various
areas
of
the
city
and
city
parks
and
getting
revenue
from
permits
attract
more
brand
name
stores
to
the
Commons
allow
for
businesses
and
people.
This
one
was
interesting
to
provide
funding
to
specific
programs
like
reach,
community
outreach,
worker,
etc
and
then
automate
city
services
as
much
as
possible.
A
This
was
a
suggestion
that
was
reducing
staffing
but
then
allowing
for
safer
interactions
during
the
pandemics,
so
this
was
as
best
as
I
could
pull
this
data
together,
given
that
I
just
pulled
what
we
had
in
as
of
noon
today
and
wanted
to
get
it
ready
for
this
evening,
I've
emailed
this
to
everyone.
The
last
slide
I
just
want
to
go
over
is
I
have
identified
what
I
would
like
to
include
in
this
budget?
A
Basics,
part
2,
so
those
slides
that
were
the
precursor
to
people
taking
this
survey
I
want
to
make
a
second
version
of
that.
Based
on
some
of
the
information
that
we
received
in
the
survey,
it's
clear
to
me
that
we
need
to
put
more
information
out.
This
was
my
initial
list
was
tax
abatements.
We
need
to
again,
as
I
mentioned,
explain
that
in
more
detail
for
everyone
breakdown
of
revenues
through
fees,
so
people
have
an
understanding
of
what
fees.
A
We
currently
have
a
better
breakdown
of
DPW
funding,
to
explain
the
mou
that
we
have
of
Cornell
and
how
that's
calculated
to
review
our
capital
projects
a
bit
to
talk
about
debt
service
and
interest
race
and
glad
Steve
touched
on
that
a
little
bit
this
evening.
It
gives
us
more
of
a
sense
of
what
we're
allowed
and
not
allowed
to
borrow
and
then
to
discuss
our
fund
balance
and
I
just
put
an
asterisk
next
to
SWAT.
Similarly,
to
that
other
slide,
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
about.
A
I
would
say
more
training
and
tactics
that
emerged
out
of
the
survey,
not
necessarily
finance
related,
so
I'm
gonna
hand.
The
information
over
to
the
task
force.
That's
going
to
be
looking
at
reforming
the
police,
so
I'll
stop
there.
We
have,
you,
know
15
20,
ish
minutes
we
can
be
flexible.
So
do
you
want
to
see
slides
again
or
do
you
want
me
to
stop
screen
sharing.
I
I'm
curious
that
I
don't
want
to
take
too
long
with
this,
but
I'm
curious.
Do
we
know
a
general
age
group
of
the
people
who
did
the
survey
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
pitch
for
the
golf
course,
because
it's
actually
a.
A
I
Try
again
a
little
bit
like
the
G
egg
pool,
there's
a
large
number
of
people
who
really
want
to
use
the
golf
course
this
year
and
we
have
to
maintain
the
golf
course
when
it's
not
being
used.
I
A
G
Solicit
donations,
I
think
we
know
we're
not
allowed
to
legally
do
that,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
some
kind
of
discussion
about
how
we
might
kind
of
encourage
that
with
him,
I'm
kind
of
breaking
the
law,
but
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
having
donations
go
to
specific
causes,
because
you
know
we've
run
into
those
kind
of
discussions
in
the
past.
So
you
know
if
some
rich
person
wants
to
support
the
police
department,
it's
kind
of
like
somebody
else's
agenda
and
it
can
get
a
little
bit
tricky.
G
G
A
I
A
Right
so
hey
I
want
to
explain
this
is
not
a
non-scientific
survey
right,
so
I
think
we
were
trying
to
do
whatever
we
could
in
order
to
see
if
there
was
a
way
to
just
get
any
input
at
all.
So
we
know
that
we
probably
didn't
do
this
in
a
way
that
would
pass
muster
of
any
social
scientist
out
there.
So
we
know
that
what
we
wanted
to
do
as
broadly
as
possible
get
feedback
as
we
entered
into
2021,
especially
given
some
of
the
desire
for
people
to
see
allocations
go
to
different
places.
A
So
we'll
just
put
that
caveat
over
here.
The
purpose
of
today
is
to
pull
out
what
we
want
to
have
more
conversations
about,
as
we
look
at
2021,
so
I'm
hearing
very
clearly
Golf
Course
and
that's
interesting,
because
this
very
budget
meeting
was
that
this
date
was
the
date
we
had
identified
as
the
day.
A
We
were
supposed
to
tour
the
golf
course
and
get
a
lovely
walk
through
and
hear
about
the
operation
and
how
it
works,
and
what
not,
because
we
identified
this
as
well
and
last
year's
budget
process,
so
it
would
have
been
lovely
for
us
to
be
doing
that
right
now.
Instead
of
this,
what
we're
doing
so
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear
that
we
need
to
really
work
on
the
Golf
Course
and
get
a
much
you
know
better
handle
on
recreation
and
he
was
using
it.
A
So
I
will
add
that
as
a
topic,
given
that
we
were
going
to
have
that
on
on
our
2021
topic
list
anyway,
we'll
put
that
as
a
priority
discussion
item.
Okay,
Graham,
you
had
a
question
about
how
we
solicit
or
take
advantage
of
people
that
have
means
that
are
willing,
so
I
think
tonight.
It
might
be
helpful
to
just
hear
what
people
are
thinking
about.
We
don't
have
to
go
into
the
detail
discussion
about
it
this
evening.
I
will
keep
a
running
list
of
all
the
things
that
we
want
to
explore.
A
K
I
think
the
answer
to
Graham's
question
is
we
can't
ask
for
money,
but
we
can
certainly
inform
people
that
anytime
they
want.
They
can
send
a
check
to
the
controller
and
say
it's
for
the
general
fund
and
it's
tax-deductible
so
we're
not
asking
we're
informing.
Then
Ari
looks
like
he
wants
to
restream.
H
That's
certainly
right
Donna
yeah.
Well,
we
of
course
people
can
always
choose
to
donate
to
the
city
and
obviously,
that's
very
welcome
under
current
financial
circumstances.
The
other
thing
we
can
do
is
to
identify
specific
needs
that
the
city
has
and
make
it
known
that
those
are
needs.
We
can't
approach
specific
people
and
say:
would
you
be
willing
to
donate
to
this?
H
But
if
specific
people
approach
us
and
say
what
you
need
help
with
that's
something
we
can
tell
them
and
even
if
specific
people
haven't
approached
us,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
saying
we're
short
on
funding
for
these
four
crucial
areas
that
we
think
could
be
helpful.
I
I
wouldn't
go
beyond
that
in
terms
of
explicitly
making
a
pitch
to
people,
but
but
yes,
that's
if.
G
G
K
F
B
H
What
you
said
is
correct
in
the
first
part
that
we
don't
have.
Unfortunately,
under
state
law,
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
charge
a
property
based
on
being
vacant
if
it's
violating
the
building
code.
In
other
ways,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
prosecute
the
owner
for
that
and
potentially
create
substantial
financial
penalties
as
a
result
of
that.
But
if
the
building
is
in
compliance,
even
though
it's
sitting
there
empty
for
a
long
time,
we
have
we
looked
at
that
quite
carefully
and
unfortunately,
we
have
no
authority
to
to.
B
Yes,
in
fact,
yes,
we
we
teamed
up
with
New
York
City,
which
is
the
only
other
municipality
in
DICOM
that
is
interested
in
this,
and
we
sent
several
letters,
but
it
hasn't,
it
hasn't
risen
to
the
top
of
the
Assembly's
legislative
to-do
list.
Yet,
but
I
think
this
would
be
a
good.
This
would
be
a
good
time
to
raise
it
again
for
sure.
M
A
Don't
think
that
was
what
we
were
talking
about.
I
think
we
were
talking
more
about
a
private
entity,
operating
a
city
facility
or
service,
so
take
the
golf
course,
for
example,
if
we
just
wanted
to
say
hey,
we
have
this
great
golf
course.
We
can't
do
anything
about
it,
but
if
somebody
wanted
to
come
in
and
and
run
the
golf
course
for
us
and
we
split
profit
or
something
like
that-
that's
like
a
public/private.
A
We
have
things
little
mini
versions
of
those
when
we
allow
like
puddle
Dockers,
to
operate
out
of
Stuart
Park
and
some
of
those
pieces.
I
think
this
would
be
more
on
a
grand
scale
and
essentially
say
you
can
operate
this
city
facility
on
our
behalf.
Something
like
that.
So
a
little
bit
more
than
just
the
friends
groups
are
essentially
just
organizing
fundraising
for
City
departments
or
specific
city
programs.
That's
a
little
different.
A
We
did
happen.
Everyone
else.
That's
in
that
unfurl
Oh
group
can
chime
in
if
I
got
this
wrong,
but
we
have
talked
about
doing
whatever
we
can
to
bring
enough
staff
on
so
that
we
can,
within
whatever
New
York
state,
is
allowing
recreational
activities
we
want
to
have
staff
on
so
that
we
can
not
lose
all
that
revenue,
so
we're
trying
to
do
our
best,
and
we
said
you
know
very
low
and
I
see
liz
is
here
too,
is
she
can
even
chime
in?
A
We
said
that
we
are
definitely
interested
in
having
the
rink
the
ice
rink
open,
because
that
would
be
a
huge
loss
in
revenue.
If
we
somehow
had
to
lose
all
you
know
there
that
that
is
packed.
You
know
6:00
a.m.
to
11:00
p.m.
with
various
groups
that
come
in
and
use
the
eyes.
So
we
do
not
want
to
lose
that
revenue
if
we
don't
have
to
so
we
are
looking
at
bringing
people
back
as
much
as
we
can
in
order
to
keep
as
much
of
that
revenue
and
comply
with
the
coronavirus
restrictions.
A
Yeah
we'll
have
to
what
we're
gonna
do
is
talk
about
the
Golf
Course.
That
I
think
we
need
a
meeting,
or
at
least
half
a
meeting
or
a
good
chunk
of
one
meeting
to
walk
through
all
the
pieces,
and
we
should
probably
have
the
person
who
manages
the
golf
course
participating
in
that
conversation
with
us
as
well.
H
K
M
I
think,
along
those
same
lines
that
you
know
I,
think
in
the
past
we've
looked
or
had
an
interest
in
looking
universally
at
all
the
different
fees
that
we
charge
them
make
sure
they're
in
line
with
what
we
think
people
would
be
willing
to
pay
or
able
to
pay
and,
of
course,
there's
always
a
tension
there
too.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
overcharging
for
things
that
might
really
burden
people
but
III,
know.
We've.
M
A
What
slides
I
wanted
to
make
for
part
two
was
an
actual
summary
of
all
of
the
different
fees
that
we
have,
and
there
was.
It
was
a
pretty
popular
suggestion
to
look
at
sliding
fees
if
we
could
in
in
more
than
some
circumstances.
You
know
that
if
there
was
a
way
like
several
of
you
mentioned
earlier,
if
there
are
people
that.
A
Contribute
a
little
bit
more,
you
know,
but
again
what
would
the
admin
back-of-house
look
like
to
have
to
manage
a
sliding
fee
structure
for
multiple
City
fees?
We
don't
want
to
overburden
staff
on
that
as
well.
So
that's,
that's
really
gonna
be
a
balance,
but
at
a
minimum
taking
a
look
at
what
our
fees
are
and
maybe
picking
a
few
of
them
to
do.
Some
benchmarking
might
make
sense.
So
I'll
add
that
to
our
list.
A
What
else
I
did
have
a
general
question,
I'm
just
sort
of
your
feedback
on
the
slides
and
the
survey,
especially
if
I'm
going
to
do
a
part.
Two
of
this
any
constructive
advice
that
you
would
have
about
how
to
put
it
together
and
then
how
long
do
we
want
to
leave
this
survey
open
and
I?
Think
since
we're
already
at
730,
I'm
gonna,
add
as
a
topic
for
our
July
special
meeting,
we
should
have
a
brief
discussion
about.
How
do
we
want
what
other
methods
of
public
input
are?
A
Are
we
going
to
use
for
the
budget
because
we
can't
have
the
normal
budget
meetings
with
public
hearings
and
and
whatnot
so
put
your
thinking
caps
on
for
next
meeting
about
how
we
can
engage
the
public
in
different
ways,
given
that
we're
gonna
be
in
this
in
this
format,
so
I
guess
any
feedback
that
you
have
on
the
survey?
Should
we
keep
it
open
and
then
part
two
of
the
budget,
slides
George.
A
I
A
I
A
We
have
to
figure
out
how
we
we
are
going
to
do
public
hearing.
We
struggled
with
the
first
public
hearing.
We
tried
to
do
on
this
format
right,
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
figure
out
exactly
what
that
will
look
like
if
it
has
to
be
in
this
format.
Do
we
want
to
I
just
think
we
need
to
have
a
quick
discussion
on
what
ways
do
we
want
to
collect
input,
because,
right
now,
I
know
people
have
been
frustrated
that
the
way
we've
been
collecting
input
currently
is
we
have
the
forum?
A
It's
the
the
link
is
associated
with
the
agenda.
You
fill
out
the
form
and
then
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
interest
of
time
and
efficiency
is
just
kind
of
reading
an
overview
summary
of
everyone
that
commented
right.
So
what
figure
out
how
to
do
that
in
the
way
that
allows
people
to
have
input,
but
is
more
efficient,
yeah.
G
I
mean
I
put
a
plug
in
for
that
some
way
of
maybe
there's
a
lottery
of
you
know
so
public
you
know
set
some
time,
and
maybe
it
would
be
three
minutes,
maybe
every
two
minutes
or
something.
But
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
have
that
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
especially
now
I
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
exploring
that
I.
A
E
You
first
of
all,
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
tool.
These
slides
are
so
informative
to
the
public,
but
also
to
me.
I've
really
appreciated
these
slides
and
then
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
76
percent
of
respondents
live
in
the
city
and
I
think
he
said.
55
percent
respondents
work
in
the
city
and
this
is
to
George
and
others
who
have
active
listservs.
We
have
been
sharing
it
with
in
our
listservs
in
the
city.
E
A
I
do
know
that
we
wanted.
We
wanted
it
to
have
good
a
good
level
of
engagement,
so
it
has
gone
the
chamber
put
it
in
their
chamber
ground.
So
that
goes
to
anyone
that
subscribes
to
the
chamber.
It
was
on
the
Human
Services
Coalition
list,
so
probably
why
we're
seeing
a
pretty
decent
yield?
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
that
most
people
are
being
truthful
about
answering
this
and
I.
A
A
It
is
the
best
we
could
do,
given
the
constraints
that
we're
under
and
you
know,
I
feel
that
we
need
to
provide
an
Avenue
in
a
way
that
makes
it
easy
for
us
to
hear
very
clearly
from
the
public,
some
specific
demands
that
are
being
made
about
funding,
and
this
was
probably
the
fastest
way
to
figure
out
how
to
get
some
of
that
and
to
look
at
that
an
aggregate
and
see
you
know
what
the
what
sort
of
a
general
feeling
from
from
the
public
one.
So
you.
E
You
ask
the
question
you
know
about
how
long
we
should
keep
the
survey
open
and
I
think
it
is
important
to
put
some
parameters
a
time
frame
around
this
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
ideas,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
sort
of
you
know
end
point
in
mind
and
we
can
then
communicate
that
to
people
which
gives
us
another
opportunity
to
just
advertise
this
right.
A
Thinking
about
maybe
leaving
it
open
until
next
Monday,
but
if
we
feel
that's
too
short,
I
can
do
it
next,
Wednesday
or
if
people
are
watching
it
this
evening
we
could
just
make
it
a
clean
week.
You
know
the
hum
if
they
saw
it
tonight,
and
this
is
the
first
they're
hearing
about
it.
There'll
be
one
more
week
to
complete
it
after
tonight,
I'm
fine
with
that
I
do
think
at
some
point.
It'll
just
become
what
was
interesting.
E
Argument,
even
as
you
were
suggesting
next
Wednesday,
which
is
you
know
the
end
of
the
month,
beginning
of
July,
that
does
seem
that
does
seem
reasonable
and
I.
You
know
I
think
it's
terrific
to
have
three
hundred
thirty,
nine
and
growing
number
of
respondents
it
gives
us
can
give
us
a
good
picture,
a
broad
picture
of
the
themes
that
are
coming
up.
So
you
know
I'd
be
fine
with
having
till
the
end
of
the
month,
leaving
the
survey
open,
I,
don't
know
what
others
think
so.
M
A
What
I
was
doing
is
using
the
survey
to
get
a
sense
of
what
people
don't
have
as
clear
understanding
with
about
our
budget
process,
so
this
conveniently
allowed
us
to
embed
a
survey
into
it,
but
I've
always
wanted
like
a
budget
basics
document
like
this.
So
this
is
helping
us
with
the
building
blocks
for
that
together.
So
I.
K
M
M
B
Yes
and
I
think
that
the
task
force
we
will
be
asking
about
short
and
long
term
proposals
so
short
term.
What
should
be
done
in
the
2021
budget,
recognizing
that
we've
just
unfunded
six
positions
in
the
police
department,
putting
them
at
about
60
folks
who
are
actively
on
duty
right
now,
which
is
down
from
there
stork
hive?
Well,
it's
like
90
some
odd
and
also
taking
a
longer-range
look
projecting
out
three
and
five
years
for
police
department,
budget
and
spending
and
the
spending
for
honor
their
Human
Services
as
well.
B
And
that's
alternative
to
based
on
discussions
with
other
municipalities.
We
are
going
to
be
talking
with
other
municipalities,
I
think.
Actually,
every
municipality
is
now
in
for
a
discussion,
that's
being
convened
by
Jason
Molina,
the
county
administrator,
and
if
we
work
together
on
a
reform
plan
that
might
stretch
or
shrink
our
time
horizons,
I
just.
L
A
M
E
A
I
can
tell
you
I
mean
by
it
is
at
least
informing
the
public
that
Cornell
does
make
a
payment,
and
what
does
it
look
like
and
what
is
it
based
on
and
how
is
it
calculated
and
some
of
those
pieces?
So
that's
one
so
for
me,
I
was
trying
to
tease
out
based
on
people's
responses.
There
are
some
assumptions
that
Cornell
doesn't
pay
us
any
money
at
all,
and
we
want
to
correct
that
right.
So
that
was
one
of
the
pieces
of
that.
E
M
M
B
Know
you
know
and
I
thought
the
university
as
much
that
it's
no
secret
how
I
feel
about
the
MOU
that
I
feel
like
they?
They
could
and
should
be
contributing
much
more
to
the
to
the
local
government
in
the
social
fabric
here
and
that
it
would
benefit
not
just
the
people
who
lived
here,
but
it
would
benefit
the
university
too
if
they
did
that,
but
I
do
want
to
give
them
credit
because,
unlike
other
large
multi-billion
dollar
corporations,
they
have
not
laid
folks
off.
B
You
know
they've
held
onto
them
their
entire
workforce
so
far,
there's
pandemic
and
that's
been.
That
has
been
a
boon.
That's
been
a
real
benefit
to
our
community,
so
I
want
to
I.
Do
want
to
give
him
credit
on
that
front.
So
I'm
like
like
warning.
For
example,
this
next
town
over
with
a
multi-billion
dollar
corporation,
has
introduced
some
pretty
severe.