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B
C
Okay,
we're
good!
Thank
you.
Welcome
to
the
march
3rd
meeting
of
the
common
council,
we'll
call
to
order
any
additions
to
or
deletions
from
the
agenda.
C
I
am
not
seeing
any
no
proclamations
are
any
municipal
officials
here
for
anybody
from
the
county
of
the
town.
A
Mayor,
we
do
have
rich
john
in
the
waiting
room,
but
I
believe
that
he
he
signed
up
to
speak
as
a
speaker,
but
I
can
bring
him
in
if
you
want
would
rather.
C
Happen,
let's
do
that
and
if
and
if
he's
here
to
speak,
then
that's
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
and
he
can
just
kick
off
our
public
comment
portion.
So
one
just
brief
note.
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
are
here
for
public
comment
to
speak
about
the
reimagining
public
safety
draft
and
we
welcome
all
that
feedback
and
appreciate
you
being
here.
They
just
want
to
note
that
the
draft
is
not
being
voted
on
or
even
discussed.
Tonight
is
not
on
our
agenda.
There
are
three
coming
in
which
council
will
be
discussing
that
draft.
C
There
was
one
meeting
last
week
last
wednesday,
there's
another
next
wednesday
march,
10th
another
two
weeks
from
then
march,
24th,
then
a
final
meeting
on
march
31st,
so
that's
march,
10th
march
24th
and
march
31st,
where
council
will
be
discussing
the
draft,
but
this
is
an
open
public
comment,
and
this
is
a
good.
This
is
the
right
place
to
come
to
to
voice
your
feedback
on
the
draft
report.
C
C
Okay,
I
see
rich,
hey,
welcome,
so
we're
here
for
a
municipal
report
or
to
speak
as
part
of
public
comment.
D
C
Then,
let's
do
the
the
typical
notice
up
front,
julie
and
dan
will
be
running.
The
timer
we'll
allow
people
in
to
speak
as
part
of
public
comment.
Everybody
will
get
three
minutes
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
person
allows
them
to
follow
the
typical
rules
of
of
addressing
the
common
council,
which
is
to
mean
decorum
and
respect
and
stick
to
the
three-man
limit.
C
Yes,
that's
right!
So
if
it
includes
the
county
report,
there's
no
need
to
stick
to
the
three-minute
limit,
but
it's
it's
not
frowned
upon
either.
D
I'll
try
to
stay
under
three
minutes.
I
mainly
just
wanted
to
to
to
stop
in
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
city
staff
and
common
council
members
that
have
participated
in
the
reimagining
public
safety
effort.
This
has
been
a
long
process
and
it's
been
a
very
intense,
quick
process
because
of
the
governor's
timeline
and
I
think
we're
we
really
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
meaningful
and,
as
I
said
at
our
legislature,
county
legislature,
meeting
last
night,
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
do
it
as
a
joint
plan.
D
I
think
there's
real
power
in
that
it
reflects
the
way
we
worked
on
it
and,
frankly,
I
think
we
send
a
much
better
message
in
our
long-term
success
is
far
more
likely
if
we
can
get
there
as
a
joint
plan
and
that
that's
the
message
I
gave
to
my
colleagues
on
the
county
legislature
and
I'd
share
with
you
as
well.
I
I
hope
we
can
get
there
if
we
need
to
do
different
reports
and
separate
reports
with
our
own
recommendations.
D
You
know
we
can
do
that,
but,
given
that
we're
talking
about
the
two
largest
police
agencies
in
the
county,
that
really
will
pull.
I
think
the
other
police
agencies
with
them.
If
we
can
get
a
joint
plan
there's
value
here,
and
so
I
hope
we
keep
that
in
mind
and
I'll
stop
there,
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions.
If
anybody
has
any
other
ways,
I
can
go
away.
C
D
A
So
I
have
just
let
in
our
our
first
speaker,
who
is
michael
from
dc
and
following
michael
will
be
dean.
F
Great
hi
good
good
evening,
council
and
mr
mayor.
First
of
all,
I
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect
for
all
of
you
and
I
don't
envy
your
position.
So
please
do
not
mistake
my
passion
for
disrespect.
That
is
not
it
at
all.
F
I'm
the
son
of
a
police
officer,
a
nephew
of
a
retired
new
york
city,
detective
cousin
of
a
congressman,
and
I
am
a
proud
democrat
and
I
hate
that
I
have
to
even
announce
that
I'm
a
democrat,
but
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
democrats
that
are
afraid
to
stand
up
and
and
back
the
police
here,
because
we
feel
like
the
black
lives
matter,
movement,
and
maybe
some
of
the
city
will
feel
like
we're
turning
our
backs
on
them
and
that
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth.
F
I
am
very
pro-black
lives
matter,
but
I
am
also
very
pro-police
and
I
understand
you
guys
are
in
a
tough
position
with
a
mandate
to
reform
the
police
department.
But
I
think
this
is
really
dangerous
and
you
have
missed
the
mark
completely.
F
I
think
that
if
you
read
the
public
or
the
report,
both
focus
groups
end
with
the
same
thing
and
the
overall
theme
is
they
both
feel
disrespected
disenfranchised
or
disconnected
to
the
other,
and
now
we're
gonna
drive
a
wedge
even
farther.
I
think
the
training
and
all
of
that
there
definitely
needs
to
be
a
reform,
but
this
is
not
the
way
to
go
about
it.
We
need
to
bring
everybody
together.
F
The
officers
that
were
asked
these
questions
didn't
know
that
abolishing
the
police
department
was
in
mind
and
also
it
has
a
tone
that,
like
anybody,
could
do
we're
just
gonna
hire
security.
What
is
it
gonna
be
like
fairground
security?
We're
gonna
hire
people
from
the
city?
Do
they
know
how
to
do
traffic
stops?
Do
they
know
how
to
direct
traffic?
F
What's
I
mean
I,
I
really
suggest
that
everybody
on
the
council
do
a
ride
along
with
each
police
officer,
and
I
I
really
think
every
shift
every
officer
and
give
these
officers
the
resources
they
need
and
they'll
be
able
to
do
their
job
better.
Yes,
there
is
an
issue
in
this
country
and
and
black
lives
do
matter,
and
we
need
that
movement
to
keep
going,
but
they
need
to
work
together,
not
apart
and
I'm.
I
am
scared
for
my
children.
F
I'm
scared
for
myself
and
the
police
station
will
abolish
itself
because
nobody
will
want
to
work
here.
Nor
will
they
want
to
live
here
if
we
are
having
glorified
security
guards
as
as
police
and
mr
mayor,
the
other
night,
you
spoke
of
how
you
were
you.
You
didn't
like
that
people
were
protesting
on
your
lawn.
F
Who
would
you
have
been
able
to
call
if,
god
forbid,
you
were
in
danger,
and
I
would
never
wish
that
on
you
and
I
respect
everything
that
you
are
doing,
but
I
just
I
really
feel
as
if
they've
I
people
are
saying
you
just
want
to
get
out
of
the
contract
situation,
I'm
going
to
give
you
more
credit
than
that,
and
I
don't
believe
that.
F
But
how
are
these
officers
supposed
to
go
out
and
do
their
job
and
put
that
uniform
on
when
they
feel
like
their
backs
already
that
you
have
already
turned
their
back
on
them?
Because
of
the
contract
situation,
it's
like
trying
to
play
for
a
football
team,
you
know
do
how
do
you
go
out
there
and
play
your
best
when
you
feel
like
your
team
doesn't
or
your
coach
doesn't
care
about
you
I'll,
just
close
with
this.
I
know
my
time
is
up.
F
I
think
we
need
a
public
referendum
on
this
I
mean
I
I
dare
you
to
go
to
east
hill
at
2
a.m:
unarmed,
and
see
how
you
feel
alone.
This
is
this
is
dangerous.
I
I
applaud
what
you
guys
are
doing.
I
think,
there's
an
answer,
but
I
think
we
need
to
come
together
and
we've
got
to
stop
this
divide
between
the
civilians
and
the
police
and
and
we
need
we
need
to
to
allow
the
police
to
have
what
they
need
to
succeed.
F
And
I-
and
I
I
appreciate
your
time
and
and
thank
you
so
much-
we
don't
want
any
blood
on
anybody's
hands.
We
need
to
empathize
and
symbolize
sympathize
with
civilians,
but
we
can't
act
like
civilians.
You
guys
are
leaders.
I
want
you
to
lead
and
I
wish
you
the
best
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
michael
next,
up
is
dean
zurbo
after
dean
is
loretta
e.
G
My
name
is
dean
zarbos,
I
own
simeons,
on
the
commons.
I
have
lived
in
this
great
community
since
2007
and
I
really
enjoy
living
here
and
owning
a
business
right
on
the
commons.
Thank
you
very
much
council
for
all
that.
You're
doing
right
now
really
appreciate
it,
but
I
think
we
really
have
to
applaud
the
police
department
because
they
really
have
done
a
fantastic
job
in
this
city,
keeping
it
together.
There
has
been
some
times
when
we
have
problems.
G
Everybody
has
problems
but
to
do
away
with
the
police
department
and
this
great
community
with
these
two
large
com,
colleges
in
our
town
and
all
the
visitors
that
we
have
coming
to
this
community
every
summer,
without
a
police
force,
the
criminal
element
will
always
find
a
way
to
do
what
they
have
to
do.
If
the
police
aren't
dead,
they
will
make
their
presence
known
very,
very
largely,
and
it
will
hurt
this
community
in
ways
that
you
could
not
imagine.
G
I've
seen
it
happen
before,
but
it's
very
important
that
we
stay
with
the
police
and
support
the
police.
We
need
to
have
their
presence.
We
didn't
have
their
presence
a
little
bit.
This
summer,
because
they
were
their
hands,
were
tied
this
summer,
and
this
is
what
happened
on
the
commons
guy
was
smoking
crack
in
the
center
of
aurora
street,
and
I
was
appalled,
didn't
know
what
to
do.
G
G
G
A
H
Brett
is
fine.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
good
evening,
mr
mayor
common
council
and
community
members,
for
those
of
you
don't
know
me,
I
am
loretta,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
city
of
ithaca,
I'm
a
mom,
I'm
a
wife,
I'm
an
ithaca
housing
authority
board
member,
I'm
an
ithaca
police
sergeant
and
I
am
a
veteran
of
the
united
states.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Now
some
of
you
may
say
that
is
what
I
signed
up
for,
and
you
are
correct
in
the
fact
that
I
signed
up
these
simple
examples
are
just
some
sacrifices,
none
of
which
are
easy
to
make.
My
children
have
been
ridiculed
by
some
people
in
this
community.
Just
simply
for
the
career
I
have
chosen.
This
is
too.
This
is
also
very
difficult.
H
None
of
these
difficulties
compared
to
how
I
feel
today,
I
feel
that
I
am
seen
as
not
human
by
both
the
city
administration
and
the
city
as
an
employee
of
this
city.
It's
like
I
don't
matter.
I
give
everything
every
day
day
in
and
day
out
to
the
people
of
this
community,
but
yet
I
feel
that
I
am
just
a
number,
not
even
someone,
but
something
that
is
not
needed.
H
When
I
read
when
I
read
the
proposal
for
the
first
time
and
after
I
had
read
point
number
one
I
felt
like
I
had
been
kicked
in
the
stomach
and
debilitated
by
what
I
had
read.
I
physically
felt
sick,
while
serving
this
community
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
and
to
get
to
know
community
members
from
all
parts
I'm
going
to
have
to
skip
a
lot.
H
I've
been
asked
by
parents
to
assist
them
with
issues
with
their
children,
targeted
drug,
addicted
issues,
scholarships
for
students,
parents
worried
about
teen
suicide,
I've
gone
to
other
kids,
talent
shows
and
plays
and
request
that
they've
requested
me
to
go
to.
On
my
own
time.
I've
been
I've
become
a
part
of
this
community.
The
ithaca
police
farm
is
the
most
progressive
police
department
that
I
know
we
are
open
to
change
and
opening
discussion
on
all
points
outside
of
point
number
one.
H
It
is
believed
by
many
that
proposal
number
one
is
a
way
to
circumvent
labor
the
labor
agreement
and
it
is
a
form
of
union
busing.
We
feel
that
points
two
through
19
are
being
overshadowed
by
point
number
one.
We
as
a
department
already
meet
several
points
outlined
and
proposed
in
the
proposal
and
executive
order.
Two
zero.
Three,
please
don't
forget.
H
Police
officer
are
people,
and
I
will
submit
the
rest
of
this
that
I
was
unable
to
speak
about
because
of
the
lack
of
time
so
that
you
can
read
it
fully
and
understand
what
I
give
to
the
community
and
I'm
sure
other
officers
do
as
well.
I'm
proud
to
be
an
it's
a
police
officer,
but
today
I
feel
very
ill.
A
B
B
Everyone
can
hear
me:
okay,
my
name
is
matthew
schweiger,
I'm
a
patrol
officer
with
ipd.
I
like
to
thank
you
for
hearing
me
speak
today.
I
am
one
of
the
members
of
the
pba
board
and
I'm
here
to
speak
on
the
labor
aspect
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
proposal.
B
This
proposal,
specifically
adam
one
calls
for
the
dismantling
of
the
ithaca
police
department
and
replacing
it
with
an
entirely
new
department.
This
means
that
all
the
hard-working
men
and
women
of
ipd
the
same
people
who
applied
a
tourniquet
to
a
wounded
man,
who'd,
been
shot
less
than
a
day
ago,
be
forced
to
reapply
to
jobs
they
already
have.
B
His
unwillingness
to
give
a
straight
answer
on
this
tells
us
all.
We
need
to
know
the
mayor
has
failed
to
negotiate
a
fair
labor
contract
with
the
pba
for
nearly
a
decade.
Now
this,
among
with
many
other
factors,
have
led
to
ipd
having
lower
and
lower
recruiting
numbers
every
year,
making
the
members
of
ipd
reapply
to
a
new
department
for
a
new
job
in
a
new
title
that
isn't
titled
as
a
police
officer
tells
us.
The
mayor
is
trying
to
get
out
from
under
the
current
labor
agreement
and
undercut
the
union
effectively
dissolving
it.
B
B
Unions
were
created
in
this
country
to
protect
the
rights
of
workers
and
to
ensure
safe
and
fair
working
conditions
and
have
been
an
important
mechanism
for
pivotal
and
progressive
societal
change.
Movers
and
shakers
of
this
nation's
history,
including
civil
rights
leaders,
I've
been
union
union
leaders,
understanding
the
importance
of
protecting
workers
rights.
This
proposal
as
it
stands
sets
a
dangerous
president.
If
it
is
passed,
it
would
allow
the
city,
administration
and
the
mayor
to
effectively
dissolve
any
labor
union.
They
want,
under
the
guise
of
reimagining,
to
get
out
of
any
labor
agreements
they
deem
unfavorable.
B
B
Changing
the
title
of
ipd
members
from
police
officers
to
this
new
undefined
term
would
effectively
remove
us
from
the
police
retirement
system
unless
we
transfer
to
another
police
department.
How
can
you
possibly
bank
on
any
of
the
current
officers
of
ipd
to
fall
online
and
stay
here,
while
their
livelihoods
and
retirements
are
stripped
away?
Two?
Why
does
the
mayor
administration
seek
to
specifically
dismantle
ipd,
ending
our
union
and
driving
away
good
officers
when
our
department
is
already
meeting
the
eight
can't
wait
guidelines
set
set
forth
by
governor
cuomo?
B
A
Thank
you,
matthew.
Next
up
is
scott
garan
and,
following
scott
will
be
ted
schwartz.
J
Good
evening,
I
don't
feel
like
I
have
the
time
to
introduce
myself
as
I'd
like
to
I'll
just
offer.
I've
lived
in
ithaca
for
23
years,
and
my
priority
in
life
now
is
the
three
children
I'm
raising
that
attend
the
city
school
district
right
here
in
the
city
and
my
21st
year
with
the
ithaca
police
department
serves
as
lieutenant.
Now
I
want
to
make
it
clear.
I
don't
speak
for
the
ithaca
pba.
I
speak
for
myself,
my
own
experiences
and
I'll
start
by
saying.
J
I
believe
that
police
reforms
are
necessary
and
should
go
hand
in
hand
with
legislative
and
judicial
reform,
so
the
outcomes
of
our
criminal
justice
systems
reflect
the
principles
that
we
want
to
embrace
in
our
culture.
Poor,
policing
or
criminal
conduct
by
officers
needs
to
be
less
likely
less
frequent
and
more
intolerable,
especially
with
people
of
color.
I
can
tell
you
that
I've
heard
very
prevalently
throughout
our
department
officers
make
suggestions
that
are
in
line
with
many
parts
of
this
reimagining
proposal,
embrace
the
ideas
of
recalibrating.
J
How
and
what
we
are
called
to
respond
to
welcome
the
idea
of
social
and
mental
health
services
to
address
problems
on
a
24
7
basis
and
welcome
training
that
would
make
us
best
suited
to
serve
the
ithaca
community
to
name
a
few.
I've
also
heard
some
fundamental
misunderstandings
of
what
it
is
that
we
do
and
how
we
at
ipd
approach
issues
that
we
are
called
to
address
in
many
of
the
explanations
provided
for
this
reimagining
proposal.
J
The
way
that
this
proposal
seems
to
be
framed
by
some
is
that
you're
either
sensitive
to
race
relations,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
police
in
the
history
of
police,
with
people
of
color
or
you're
sympathetic
to
the
police,
union
or
labor
unions
at
all,
which
seems
to
be
a
crafty
way
to
polarize
this
very
important
dialogue.
These.
F
J
J
I
heard
the
mayor
offer
an
analogy
of
the
context
of
the
police
department
being
like
a
hammer
and
what
we
and
therefore
what
we
see
when
we
respond
to
calls
of
service.
All
look
like
nails.
I
do
not
believe
that
to
be
true,
as
it
relates
to
how
we
respond
to
call
to
service,
in
the
sense
that
we
go
into
issues
looking
to
make
arrests
all
the
issues
that
we're
called
to.
I
actually
think
that
this
proposal
may
encourage
a
more
narrow
mindset
in
our
approach
to
cause
the
service
of
armed
personnel.
J
And
it
is
also
a
very
difficult
endeavor.
It
has
been
to
find
quality
employees
with
the
contract
being
inspired
for
10
years
and
other
complications
undermining
the
relationship
that
has
had
been
established
with
your
employees
will
potentially
forever
erode
the
trust
in
the
city
of
ithaca
as
an
employer
and
significantly
affect
our
ability
to
track
or
retain
people
that
are
the
right
ones
to
carry
out
this
very
important
mission
and
that
many
of
our
members
are
are
looking
to
embrace.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
A
Thank
you.
Scott
next
is
ted
schwartz
and
following
ted
is
justin
all
the.
K
Sucks
evening,
members
of
council,
mr
mayor
and
the
public
just
want
to
introduce
myself
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
me
ted
schwartz.
I
grew
up
here.
I
went
to
ithaca
city,
school
district,
south
hill
boynton,
ihs
tc3.
Before
I
finished
out
my
bachelor's
degree,
I
have
been
a
part
of
the
ith
community,
my
entire
life.
K
Since
I
was
a
teenager.
I've
worked
here.
I've
attended
sports
in
the
city,
my
kids
attend
sports
in
the
city.
They
go
to
daycare
in
the
after
community.
I
I
work
downtown.
Obviously
at
the
police
department
I
shop
downtown.
My
gym
is
downtown
everything
I
do
in
my
life
centers
around
the
city
of
because
so
I
have
obviously
an
interest
with
my
career,
but
also
my
family.
K
K
Point
out
that
many
of
the
trainings
that
we
have
done
at
ipd
have
been
driven
from
within
the
union
below
the
rank
of
chief,
and
we
view
ourselves
as
very
progressive.
We,
we
are
really
driven
to
meet
the
needs
and
the
demands
of
the
community.
J
K
Child
abuse
and
exploitation
crisis,
negotiation,
intervention,
sexual
assault
investigations,
critical
decision
making
during
crisis,
disability
awareness,
emotionally
disturbed
personal
response,
peer
support,
de-escalation,
responding
to
high-risk
victims,
implicit
and
unconscious
bias,
victim-centered
and
trauma-informed
training,
professional
development,
procedural
justice,
proper,
effective
internal
investigations,
harm
reductions,
women
in
command,
alzheimer's
and
dementia.
First
response,
domestic
violence,
investigations
and
many
others,
and
that's
just
over
the
last
four
years.
K
We
are
continually
striving
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
these
are
all
driven
from
within.
We
are
progressive,
as
my
colleagues
have
said,
we
are
more
than
willing
to
sit
down
and
speak
with
members
of
council
in
the
community.
Cove
does
put
a
hamper
that,
but
we
would
like
to
meet
in
the
middle
and
try
to
further
serve
the
community.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we've
also
done
is
develop
an
rbt
program
that
the
state
is
modeled
after
and
I
know
I'm
running
out
of
time,
but
real
quick.
What
rbt
is
reality-based
training,
that
is
where
we
teach
and
test
officers
under
stress
research
has
shown
that
we
need
to
teach
in
a
contextual
environment
to
apply
that
those
skills
whatever
they
may
be.
De-Escalation,
communication
emergency
medical
care-
and
I
will
just
close
with
the
city's
mantra
or
one
of
them-
is
people
our
greatest
assets.
K
A
Remainder,
thank
you.
Ted
up
next
is
justin
after
justin
is
israel
cosgrove.
A
L
All
right,
hello,
my
name
is
justin
baldessari
and
I
have
lived
in
the
ethical
area
for
approximately
20
years
I
went
to
boynton
middle
school
ithaca,
high
school
and
jessica
college.
I'm
currently
employed
with
the
city
of
ithaca
police
department,
where
I've
worked
for
the
last
six
and
a
half
years.
L
I
am
speaking
at
this
meeting
in
order
to
voice
my
concerns
about
the
proposal
you're
being
asked
to
review.
I
do
not
claim
to
have
all
the
answers,
but
I
am
concerned
about
this
proposal.
The
main
issue
that
I
find
with
this
proposal
is
that
you
talk
about
eliminating
our
positions
as
we
know
them
and
rebranding
them
as
positions
that
we
will
have
to
reapply
for
the
notion
to
reapply
for
a
job
that
we
already
earned
via
civil
service.
Physical
fitness.
Ongoing
commitment
to
the
community
and
rigorous
training
is,
quite
frankly
insulting.
L
On
top
of
that,
you
ask
us
to
follow
you
into
this
plan
when
we
have
no
idea
what
these
positions
offer
as
far
as
pay
benefits
and
standing
in
our
current
retirement
system.
The
most
apt
metaphor,
I've
heard,
is
agreeing
to
buy
a
house
without
knowing
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
the
consequence
of
making
a
job
undesirable
to
current
officers
is
also
a
counterintuitive
notion.
L
You
want
these
perfect
beings
as
police
officers,
but
if
you
make
the
job
so
undesirable,
then
no
self-respecting
professional
will
take
it
and
you
will
find
yourself
having
to
hire
people
who
would
otherwise
have
never
been
hired
in
the
first
place.
There
will
always
be
a
need
for
some
form
of
law
enforcement,
and
the
old
adage
does
hold
true.
You
do
get
what
you
pay
for.
L
The
other
major
concern
that
I
have
is
the
idea
of
a
civilian
executive
holding
the
position
of
chief
of
police.
Why
would
it
be
appropriate
for
someone
who
has
never
worked
in
law
enforcement
to
dictate
the
actions
of
professionals
who
put
their
lives
on
the
line
and
who
actually
do
this
work
on
a
daily
basis?
How
can
someone
who
has
never
experienced
the
stresses
and
lifestyles
this
job
demands
possibly
have
their
employees
best
interests
in
heart,
though
I'm
sure
their
heart
would
be
in
the
right
place?
L
It
would
be
like
appointing
me
as
the
chief
of
medicine
at
a
hospital.
Despite
me
having
no
knowledge
of
the
medical
field
whatsoever,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
we
of
the
ithaca
police
department
are
not
afraid
of
change.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
welcome
it.
Nothing
in
this
world
works
perfectly,
and
if
there
are
ways
to
make
it
better,
then
we
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
that.
However,
we
are
the
leading
experts
in
this
field
that
is
being
discussed,
and
we
have
barely
been
consulted
on
the
topic.
To
quote
schultz.
L
L
I
would
like
to
round
out
my
conversation
pieces
with
a
couple
of
questions,
one
being
what
are
the
pay
and
benefits
of
these
new
positions
that
would
be
offered
to
police
officers
after
we
have
to
essentially
be
fired
from
our
current
position
and
reapply
and
second,
what
is
the
advantage
of
having
a
civilian
executive,
filling
the
role
of
chief
of
police?
That's
all.
I
have
we're
getting
pretty
close
to
the
three-minute
mark.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
M
M
M
M
M
For
example,
a
noise
complaint
that
we're
sent
to
might
actually
turn
out
to
be
a
domestic
involving
people
yelling
at
each
other.
This
past
month,
in
warren
county,
ohio
deputies
responded
to
check
the
welfare
of
a
man
who,
during
initial
contact,
just
opened
fire
on
on
the
police
without
warning.
M
Human
behavior
can
be
really
hard
to
predict
and
can
escalate
in
a
moment,
and
I
speak
to
that
from
experience.
This
is
why
I'm
not
a
proponent
of
sending
an
unarmed
civilian
to
do
this
job
either.
I'm
not
going
to
advocate
for
placing
a
social
worker
in
a
dangerous
position
like
that
with
no
means
to
defend
themselves
or
someone
else.
M
M
We're
not
opposed
to
receiving
training
and
or
resources
to
assist
us
in
doing
our
jobs
even
better,
but
to
promote
a
reduction
in
our
tools
and
a
reinvention
of
how
we
do
things
is
extremely
risky
and
then
people's
lives
are
at
stake
in
the
situations
we
are
faced
with
in
closing
and
and
just
on
a
personal
level.
M
I'll
say
that
I
love
my
job,
but
I'm
not
willing
to
risk
my
children
growing
up
without
their
father
by
working
for
a
department
that
I
don't
have
confidence
in
please
edit
this
reform
proposal.
That's
all!
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
N
N
You
decided
to
unveil
this
proposal
to
a
magazine
before
your
constituents
and
our
police
department.
I
I
don't
understand
this.
No
one
knocked
on
my
door
and
asked
my
opinion
on
it.
I
am
a
resident
here,
I'm
not
sure
where
you
got
all
these
ideas
from
you've
been
defunding
our
police
department.
Since
you
became
mayor
as
our
city
grows,
so
should
our
police
department
and
all
departments
and
become
more
efficient,
we've
been
trying
to
do
that.
N
N
N
N
Please
forgive
my
tone
if
it
was
a
little
harsh,
I'm
a
little
passionate
about
this.
I
respect
all
of
you
and
for
all
you
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
Your
neighbor,
william,
if
the
miatas.
A
Thank
you
william
next
up
is
ricky
russo,
but
I
don't
see
him
in
the
waiting
room.
So
I'm
going
to
take
the
next
speaker,
which
is
zachary
nguyen
ricky.
Please
message
me
in
the
chat:
if
you're
there
and
we'll
pick
you
up
after
zachary,
if
ricky
is
not
here,
michael
dundon
will
be
our
last
speaker.
O
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
applaud
the
mayor's
plan.
He
has
managed
to
please
absolutely
no
one
while
exacerbating
existing
issues
and
tensions,
and
I
would
like
to
give
a
shout
out
to
ithaca
panthers
who
should
be
elated.
The
police
are
going
to
be
doing
exactly
what
they
have
been
asking
this
entire
time,
which
is
quitting
their
jobs
by
finding
employment
with
other
departments.
O
Ithaca
police
is
experiencing
a
manpower
shortage
during
a
crime
wave.
This
reform
plan
was
initiated
by
an
executive
order
from
the
governor
a
governor
now
beset
with
numerous
credible
allegations
of
impropriety
an
issue
itself.
That
is
dwarfed
by
the
cover-up
of
the
deaths
of
thousands
of
elderly
people
in
nursing
homes.
O
I
would
like
to
ask
mayor
svante
merrick,
to
call
on
the
governor
cuomo
to
step
down
and,
following
that
himself,
to
offer
his
resignation
and
set
a
a
positive
example.
O
Dissatisfaction
with
your
performance
is
the
one
thing
that
all
parties,
the
police,
black
lives
matter,
panthers
and
everyday
citizens
seem
to
agree
on,
and
this
police
reform
plan
needs
to
be
scrapped
immediately.
Along
with
our
governor
and
mayor,
the
breakdown
in
law.
Order
in
ithaca
is
reminiscent
of
the
road
warrior.
Violence
has
become
commonplace,
as
being
a
police
officer
becomes
less
desirable.
The
only
people
seeking
out
the
job
will
be
criminals
themselves.
O
I
think
it
would
be
more
efficient
to
simply
give
the
police
uniforms
to
the
activists
like
in
a
clockwork
orange
gang
members
parading
around
as
the
police
as
society
crumbles.
Apart
from
that,
I
hope
you
all
have
a
wonderful
evening
and
I
yield
the
remainder
of
my
time.
P
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
it's
the
common
council
members,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
this
week.
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself.
My
name
is
michael
dundee
and
I'm
the
president
of
rome
tiger
central
vapor
council,
as
well
as
the
president
and
field
representative
for
labor's
local
785,
which
is
located
in
the
city
of
italy.
P
I'm
speaking
tonight
in
support
of
the
police
department.
The
governor
signed
executive
order
number
203
in
june
of
2020.
The
executive
order
was
put
in
place
for
municipalities
to
perform
a
comprehensive
review
of
police
policies.
Procedures,
strategies
and
practices
then
develop
a
plan
to
approve
any
areas
that
need
improvement
all
while
addressing
the
needs
of
the
community.
Think
about
that
for
a
second.
How
do
you
get
rid
of
the
ithaca
police
department
as
part
of
a
plan
to
improve
public
safety
or
to
improve
the
relationship
with
the
community?
P
Now
speaking
of
the
ithaca
police
department,
here's
a
workforce
of
men
and
women
that
have
worked
without
a
raise
for
10
years.
They
continue
to
show
up
to
work
every
day
to
protect
and
serve
their
community,
yet
no
room
for
growth.
To
reason,
no
one
in
any
industry
would
continue
to
work
as
hard
as
these
men
and
women
have
under
those
circumstances.
P
P
Hopefully,
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
you
realize
that
these
hard-working
men
and
women
serve
to
be
heard
and
should
be
treated
with
respect
and
as
a
member
of
the
brotherhood
and
sisterhood
of
essential
workers,
I'm
asking
you
to
do
what
is
right
and
turn
down
this
parole.
Hopefully
everybody
has
a
wonderful
evening.
A
Thank
you,
michael,
and
that
will
conclude
our
public
comment
period.
C
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
julie,
thanks
dan
for
managing
that,
and
thank
you
to
everybody
who
spoke.
We
really
appreciate
it.
We're
going
on
a
privilege
of
the
floor,
I'll
say
a
few
things.
I
know.
I
said
that
we
weren't
discussing
the
proposal
tonight,
but
I
do
feel
like
it's
important,
especially
when
we
heard
such
personal
and
and
impressive
pleas
to
be
heard
from
the
members
of
our
police
department.
C
You
know
I.
I
will
say
that
there
are
a
great
many
benefits
of
a
new
department
that
would
not
replace
us.
I
think
somebody's
was
it
circus.
I
forget
the
the
the
term
that
was
used
by
mike
at
the
very
beginning,
but
these
would
be
real
law
enforcement
officers.
Our
public
safety
workers
are
imagined
not
to
be
was
it
mall
cops
think
something
like
that,
but
real
officers
of
the
law
right
with
all
of
the
same
rights
and
responsibilities
and
equipment-
and
I
think
that's
what's
important.
C
I'd
like
to
hear
more
specifically
about
which
of
the
reforms
they
support,
because
for
too
long
this
has
been
an
adversarial
relationship
where
each
and
every
reform
has
been
opposed,
and
I
appreciated
hearing
about
all
the
personal
ties
and
connections
to
the
community,
because
one
of
the
recommendations
is
a
residency
requirement
for
new
officers,
because
we
too
believe
that
personal
ties
to
the
community
are
part
of
what
keeps
the
officers
safe
in
the
community
safe
and
having
something
like.
I
think
it's
about.
C
You
know
billy
mentioned
that
the
the
magazine
found
out
about
these
report
reforms
before
the
department
itself.
Well,
that's
just
simply
not
true.
You
know.
Not
only
have
the
leadership
in
this
department
been
a
part
of
the
process
for
the
entire
time
and
were
given
previews
of
this
report
in
days
and
days
before
the
report
came
out,
but
the
report
was
released
to
everybody
in
the
community
at
exactly
the
same
time,
4
pm
on
monday,
the
media
did
receive
it
in
advance,
with
an
embargo
until
4
pm.
C
My
first
call
at
exactly
4
pm
on
the
dot
was
to
tom
godzilla,
the
head
of
the
pba
president.
That's
a
call
that
was
not
answered,
and
still
to
this
point
not
returned
tuesday.
All
the
frontline
supervisors
were
invited
to
a
meeting
to
review.
The
report
receive
a
presentation
to
discuss
it
and
to
discuss
implementation
of
it,
including
how
we
could
address
their
concerns
and
ease
some
of
their
worries
and
work
with
them
to
design
the
new
department.
Every
member
boycotted
that
meeting
and
did
not
show
up.
C
I
even
had
a
lunch
meeting
on
the
schedule
with
tom
gonzalez,
the
president
of
the
pba
union,
sustaining
appointment
that
we
made
a
month
ago
on
monday
that
that
was
was
never
held.
The
point
is,
if
you
want
to
work
collaboratively,
I
too
want
to
work
collaboratively.
I
think
there
is
room
for
us
to
figure
out,
particularly
this.
This
claim
about
union
busting
is
just
false.
It.
Q
C
C
I
think
now
it's
nine
contracts,
maybe
10
contracts
with
six
other
unions
in
the
time
that
the
pba
has
been
out
of
contract
it
does.
It
is
because
we're
far
apart
and
it
takes
two
to
tango-
we've
made
many
reasonable
offers,
but
I
believe
to
be
reasonable
offers
that
would
increase
the
salaries
of
the
members
of
a
police
union,
but
I
believe
that
they've
been
poorly
served
by
their
council,
received
bad
advice
about
what's
possible
and
received
advice.
C
So
let
me
be
very,
very
clear.
Folks
are
saying
this:
is
a
union
busting
attempt?
Let
me
be
very,
very
clear:
I
do
not
believe
that
we
even
have
the
legal
ability
to
bust
the
union
and
that
in
a
new
department,
the
contract,
if
the
officers
chose
it
to
you,
chose
it
to
and
the
pba
would
carry
over
into
that
new
department
right
now.
C
I
hope
that
we
could
come
up
with
a
new
agreement,
one
that
brings
their
not
just
the
pay
into
the
21st
century,
but
also
the
training,
the
recruitment,
the
retention
efforts
into
the
21st
century,
and
I
believe
that
we
can
do
that
over
the
next
few
years
as
we
design
this
department
to
better
serve
because
look
it's
not
working.
I
know
that
it's
not
work.
The
current
relationship
is
not
working
for
the
members
of
the
department.
C
You're,
not
satisfied
with
the
way
you
feel
at
work,
and
you
would
appreciate
and
need
better
community
cooperation
engagement
and
the
community
itself
too,
wants
to
hear.
It
is
true.
The
community
does
not
want
to
see
the
all
policing
abolished
it
just
doesn't,
in
fact,
what
we
heard
is
they
want
to
see
more
people
who
work
in
our
public
safety
department
who
understand
the
community
who
have
the
time
to
speak
with
them,
who
will
get
out
of
their
cars?
C
Do
foot
patrols
speak
with
them,
learn
about
their
troubles,
all
of
the
things
that
we
heard
so
eloquently
and
persuasively
from
from
israel
from
loretta
from
ted
from
so
many
of
the
officers
today.
That,
too
is
what
the
community
wants,
but
we're
not
going
to
get
there
if
one,
we
don't
talk
to
each
other.
C
We
just
communicate
through
press
releases
and
press
conferences
right
two
if
we
don't
show
up
to
meetings
with
each
other,
to
talk
this
out
and
figure
out
how
we
can
move
forward
together
and
three
if
we're
not
willing
to
change
if
we
say
yeah
we're
willing
to
adopt
some
reforms.
But
you
know
what
we
actually
are
good
as
we
are,
so
we
don't
want
real
change,
we're
willing
to
accept
some
changes,
but
those
changes
remain
unspecified
and
to
the
members
of
the
public
who
are
who
are
concerned.
C
C
The
public
safety
demands
on
our
police
have
also
shifted
for
a
whole
host
of
reasons
that
we
could.
I
mean
changes
in
our
mental
health
landscape
changes
in
in
our
health
care,
landscape
changes
in
our
economy
and
for
those
reasons,
it
really
is
important
that
we
sit
down
together
and
figure
out
a
new
public
safety
delivery
system.
C
I'm
committed
to
that
I've
heard
from
my
members
of
council
over
the
last
week
that
they
have
been
both
open
to
and
engaged
in
conversations
with
members
of
the
union
as
well
as
members
of
the
community,
and
I
think
that
if
we
work
together,
we
can
design
a
new
department
that
that
truly
does
work
for
everybody,
including
the
officers
that
currently
work
for
the
equipment.
Booster.
C
We're
going
to
any
other
response
to
the
public
or
privilege
of
the
floor.
Yes,
george.
E
Hear
me
yeah
thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
want
a
second
what
the
mayor
just
said
about.
We
need
to
work
collaboratively
through
this.
I
still
don't
understand
why
we
don't
want
to
call
the
police
police
moving
forward,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
everybody
that
spoke
tonight.
E
There
were
some
definite
proposals
for
change
that
I
heard
from
a
number
of
officers
and
I'll
just
end.
By
saying
I
wish
I
was
a
good
speaker
and
as
clear
clear
my
thoughts
as
a
number
of
the
speakers
were
tonight.
C
Thank
you
other
privilege
of
the
floor
and
I
hate
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
put
counsel
on
the
spot,
I
really
didn't
intend
to.
I
know
that
many
of
you
are
marshaling
your
thoughts
and
gathering
your
questions
and
suggestions
for
the
march
10th
and
I'll,
just
repeat
the
schedule
march
10th
march
24th
and
march
31st
meetings.
So
if
you
don't
speak
tonight,
I
don't
want
people
to
think
that
I
you
don't
have
an
opinion
on
the
topic.
I
know
you
do
you
don't
have
ideas
on
how
to
improve
the
recommendation
or
to
change
it.
C
I
know
you
have
that
too.
So
I
don't
want
any
speakers
to
get
the
idea.
Oh
so-and-so
didn't
say
anything
they
must
whatever,
yes,
donna
and
then
cynthia.
R
I've
been
taking
this
very
seriously
and
have
a
lot
to
have
had
lots
of
conversations
with
many
people
making
notes
to
myself
sharing
them.
Occasionally.
R
This
is
it
even
if
there
are
merits
to
recommendation
number
one.
It's
an
awfully
serious
change.
We
spent
months
dismantling
the
shade
tree
advisory
commission.
I
cannot
imagine
that
we
would
consider
dismantling
the
ithaca
police
department
in
four
weeks,
even
if
some
of
us
had
instincts
in
that
direction.
R
C
Yeah,
I
think
that's
fair
all
right,
so
I
I
don't
know
if
you
yeah,
I
I
think
that's
fair
and
I
think
that's
why
the
the
proposal
says
that
we
should
take
years
to
continue
studying
and
working
collaboratively
to
figure
out
what
it
would
look
like
and
I'll.
Just
say
that,
there's
not
you
know
there
are
not
national
uprisings
and
local
uprisings
of
thousands
of
people
concerned
about
the
shade
tree
advisory
commission
that
this
is
a
more
urgent
need
in
in
a
far
and
I'd
love
to
share
treat
advisory
commission.
C
This
was
serious
work
and
you're
right
that
council,
having
only
five
weeks
to
consider
whether
or
not
to
move
forward,
is
not
enough
time.
I
do
wish
it
was
enough
time,
even
the
nine
months
to
get
to
this
point
was
not
enough
time.
I
do
wish
it
was
enough
time,
but
I
think
we
can
give
ourselves
more
time
to
consider
to
continue
considering.
C
It
I'm
sorry
cynthia.
S
Well,
thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
so
far
and-
and
I
appreciate
mayor
your
description
that
that
this
is
this
is
a
process
right
that
that
is
going
to
take
time.
It
deserves
careful
thought
and
deliberation
deserves
collaboration
with
the
partners
involved
and
the
willingness
to
involve
the
police
department
and
members
of
the
police
department
and
and
have
that
conversation.
S
I
definitely
heard
from
the
speakers
today
and
in
my
conversations
with
police
officers
that
they
are
absolutely
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
and
work
to
enact
all
of
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed
in
partnership
with
with
council
and
the
county
to
make
that
happen,
and
so
so
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
think
perhaps
then,
what
I'm
hearing
that
is,
that
our
job
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks
is
to
actually
and
accurately
describe
that
path
in
whatever
that
final
resolution
is
that
we
adopt
in
conjunction
with
the
county.
S
It
needs
to
be
more
clear,
more
deliberate,
more
explanatory,
so
that
we
have
a
framework
that
not
only
leads
us
forward
but
gives
us
something
that
that
we
can
make
an
educated
decision
on,
because
right
now
with
what
we
have,
it's
not
enough,
it's
it's
clearly
alarming.
It's
clearly
destabilizing
I
I
recognize
the
the
baggage
that
we
as
a
community
have
with
regards
to
our
community
policing
relationship.
S
I
carry
you
know
some
of
that
anxiety,
myself
absolutely,
but
I
also
recognize
that
that
you
know
we
are
a
strong
community,
because
we
believe
that
we
are
a
strong
community
that
we
believe
in
in
the
networks
and
and
the
relationships
that
we
have
and
our
biggest
asset.
As
I've
always
said
in
the
city,
our
biggest
asset
are
not
the
trucks,
it's
not
the
pipes
underground,
it's
not
the
electrical
wires.
Our
biggest
assets
are
the
ones
that
go
home
every
day
and
willingly
come
back
the
next
day.
S
It's
those
assets
that
we
invest
our
time
and
our
resources
that
we
nurture
and
support
us
and
it's
what
carries
us
through
when
we
are
in
times
of
stress
and
I'm
so
deeply
grateful
to
all
of
our
officers
who
dedicate
their
lives
and
their
families
lives
to
serving
our
community.
S
Q
In
addition
to
seconding
what
savant
they
said,
I'd
like
to
just
reiterate
something
that
doctors,
bradwell
and
gonzales
did
over
and
over
and
explaining
their
charge,
which
was
to
oversample
the
most
vulnerable.
And
so
while
it
may
seem
on
the
surface
bewildering
that
we
would
consider
such
dramatic
change.
Q
When
the
numbers
report,
such
you,
know,
high
satisfaction
and
low
numbers
of
complaints.
Q
And
so
there
is
some
level
of
trust
that
we
have
to
have
that.
The
people
who
ran
these
conversations
knew
what
they
were
doing
and
are
reporting
the
facts
as
as
they
heard
them.
Q
But
I
do
and-
and
I
feel
like-
even
if
this
is
not
the
exact
right
answer-
and
it
may
need
alterations
here
and
there,
we
should
all
remember
that
it
does
come
out
of
a
process
that
was
designed
to
emphasize
the
voices
of
the
people
who
are
most
vulnerable.
C
Thank
you.
Yes,.
U
You
know
week
or
so
just
talking
to
constituents
and
community
members
and
officers
who
have
called
us,
and
I
can
say
for
myself,
you
know
I,
despite
the
sort
of
tension
and
division
that
we've
seen
in
the
media.
I
I
do
sense
that
there's
a
consensus
around
one
big
idea,
which
is
that
the
department
would
be
composed
of
two
types
of
response
right
and
an
armed
law
enforcement
response,
and
no
one
is
suggesting
that
we
would
get
rid
of
that,
but
that
there
would
also
be
an
unarmed
response.
U
You
know
perhaps
along
the
lines
of
like
our
community
outreach
worker
program
or
the
case
workers
we've
talked
about
with
lead.
It
would
be
responding
to
mental
health
problems
in
the
community
and
that
those
two
groups
of
individuals
would
work
together.
I
think
everybody
supports
that
concept
and
is
a
good
concept,
and
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
all
the
reasons
that
the
mayor
has
talked
about
the
changes
that
need
to
happen.
U
I
think
where
we're
caught
up
is-
and
I
think
we
heard
it
tonight
from
the
officers-
is
a
lot
of
officers
feeling
like
the
notion
that
you
know
they
would
be
fired
and
then
have
to
reapply
is
a
real
slap
in
the
face.
I
mean
we
do
have
officers
in
the
department
who
have
been
working
very
hard
for
years,
and
you
know
their
public
servants
and
they've
been.
They
see
their
own
work
as
important
and
valuable
to
the
community,
and
I
think
you
know
you
know
I
want
to.
U
I
want
to
be
able
to
value
that
work,
and
I
don't
it
makes
me
very
uncomfortable
to
feel
that
we
have.
You
know
good
city
employees
who
have
been
doing
good
work
in
the
community
who
feel
like
they're
not
being
seen
and
they're.
Not
they
don't
matter,
and
I
think
that's
what
we
really
have
to
get
past
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
the
underlying
concept
is
one
that
we
can
all
sort
of
support
and
work
towards.
U
It's
just
a
case
of
finding
a
resolution
to
the
first
recommendation
in
the
plan,
but
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
get
there.
I
really
I
really
am
you
know.
I
think
that
we'll
continue
to
talk
about
this
at
our
committee
of
the
whole
meetings
and
other
public
meetings,
and
I
I
continue
to
be
hopeful
that
we
can
get
to
a
resolution
that
the
community
can
support.
C
Well,
I
will
just
say
then,
one
last
time
that
the
march
10th
meeting
march,
24th
and
march
31st
council
will
be
considering
the
draft
recommendations
and
hopefully
voting
on
the
31st
for
for
whatever
amendments
council
makes
along
the
way.
The
best
way
to
both
stay
engaged
and
to
put
your
input
into
the
process
is
to
go
to
the
city
of
ithaca's
website
click
on
reimagine
public
safety.
C
There's
there
you'll
see
a
list
of
meetings
that
you
can
attend,
as
well
as
a
forum,
a
survey
that
you
can
fill
out
online.
That
has
a
place
to
give
your
feedback
great.
So
we'll
go
now
to
george.
E
I'd
like
to
say
something
about
two
women,
a
juan
has
just
joined
us
and
one
has
just
left
us.
A
woman
named
ingrid
left
her
home
in
el
salvador
almost
three
years
ago.
E
E
A
small
group
of
people
at
cornell,
a
professor
and
a
handful
of
her
students,
got
contact
with
ingrid
through
justice
for
migrant
families
program
and
they
found
out
that
ingrid
was
going
to
be
released.
Last
week
she
was
released.
She
was
left
at
a
gas
station
in
buffalo
with
nothing
and
this
professor
drove
to
buffalo
and
got
ingrid
and
brought
her
home
to
ithaca
where
she
is
now
recovering
safe.
E
She
doesn't
speak
english,
I'm
sure
she
doesn't
even
know
where
she
is
really,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
those
people
and
and
welcome
ingrid
to
our
community,
and
if
there
are
people
listening
who
know
more
ways
to
help
ingrid
than
I
do.
Please
contact
me
through
the
city
website
welcome
igrid.
E
And
she
passed
away
a
couple
days
ago
and
she
was
a
really
important
member
of
this
community
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
to
her
family.
She
will
be
missed.
Thank
you.
C
I
didn't
know
about
that.
I,
that
is
such
a
loss
for
the
community
you're
right
jane,
was
when
I
I
was
a
rabble-rousing
young
activist
who
decided
to
run
for
common
council
and
she
and
her
husband,
john,
were
the
first
people
that
interviewed
me.
They
were
part
of
the
award
committee
and
they
didn't
vote
for
me
then,
and
I
don't
think
they
ever.
C
Jane
is
jane,
is
just
a
titan
of
of
the
community.
That's
a
tremendously
sad
loss.
George
thank
you
for
sharing
and
for
for
memorializing
her.
How
do
you
know
that.
C
All
right,
any
other
privilege
of
the
floor.
C
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
Would
anyone
like
to
move
the
consent
agenda
moved
by
dad
the
second
second
by
steve,
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously?
Next?
Is
the
city
administration
committee
deb
any
report.
V
Yeah,
no,
we
had
all
of
our
items
were
small
and
on
consent
for
there's
been
a
lot
of
new
chatter
around
the
issue
on
5g.
So
I
just
wanted
to
publicly
report.
It
looks
like
april
will
be
the
month
in
which
we
get
a
look
at
the
design
guidelines.
V
Seth,
who
chairs
our
other
standing
committee,
and
I
are
going
to
look
at
what
is
on
our
agendas
for
april
and
figure
out
which
committee
it
makes
the
most
sense
to
run
that
through
so
we'll
be
able
to
let
you
know
in
march
what
what
we
think
that
will
look
like,
and
it's
a
budget
meeting
planning
time
again
so
dan
and
I
are
gonna
work
on
getting
some
dates
together
and
getting
them
to
everyone,
not
sure
if
we'll
be
in
person
yet
by
october.
V
W
Okay,
good
evening,
just
a
couple
items
here:
we
continue
to
work
on
closing
2020
activity,
we're
busy
posting
all
the
year-end
activity.
I
don't
really
have
a
real
update
on
the
2020
bottom
line
at
this
point,
but
I
can
give
you
a
couple
items
related.
Our
final
2020
sales
tax
numbers
are
in.
We
ended
up
at
collections
of
13
million
250
000
for
2020.
This
number
is
2
million,
364
000
off
our
original
budget
for
2020..
W
So
for
comparison
sakes
we
collected
15
million
four
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
dollars
in
2019.
So
we
were
a
little
over
fifteen
percent
off
our
budget
amount
and,
of
course,
just
about
all
of
that
has
to
do
with
covet
impacts
for
2021
collections
of
sales,
tax,
we've
collected
894
000
to
date.
Obviously
we're
early
in
collections,
and
if
you
look
at
those
numbers,
they
are
about
10
off
of
our
2020
numbers,
comparing
at
the
same
time
period
for
the
first
two
months
of
activity.
W
So
in
2020
we
were
very
strong
in
the
first
two
months
and
then
went
downhill
with
covid.
So
we'll
see
how
things
shake
out
for
the
rest
of
2021..
W
We
did
budget
for
2021
13
843
000,
which
is
11.4
percent
decrease
from
our
2020
budget,
so
we
did
factor
in
the
covet
impacts
the
best
we
could
with
the
information
that
we
had.
So
it's
early
we're
hopeful
now
that
the
students
are
back,
the
covet
cases
are
lower
and
the
vaccine
is
is
out
and
about
and
hopefully,
and
eventually
that
will
help
our
collections
for
2021.
W
also
we're
working
with
fema
on
reimbursement
of
covet
expenses
that
we've
incurred
to
date.
We
are
now
eligible
for
100
reimbursement
of
some
of
those
costs.
This
process
takes
a
long
time.
You
have
to
work
through
fema
for
this
and
also
new
york
state,
so
we're
doing
that
process
now,
it'll
take
a
a
few
months
to
complete
that
process.
W
In
addition,
we
are
still
awaiting
word
or
actually,
funds
from
new
york
state
on
our
aim
payments
related
to
2020..
If
you
recall,
we
saw
a
reduction
in
our
aim:
payment
for
2020
of
20
percent.
We
have
been
notified
by
new
york
state.
W
Oh,
oh
sorry,
I
was
talking
about
the
new
york
state
aim
payment,
so
we
had
about
a
20
percent
reduction
in
2020.
We
were
expected
to
receive
another
15
percent
reimbursement
for
2020
and
we're
still
waiting
for
that
from
new
york
state.
We're
been
told
that
we'll
receive
that
by
the
end
of
march
and
hopefully
we
will,
and
lastly,
we've
just
been
busy
with
several
upgrades.
I'm.
S
W
Yeah
so
right
exactly,
it
would
be
a
net
five
percent
reduction.
As
long
as
everything
comes
forth,
the
way
the
new
york
state
has
said
so
got
it.
Thank
you.
In
addition,
the
2021
budget.
We
are
still
expecting
a
20
reduction
in
our
name
payment,
that's
what
the
governor
had
proposed
and
that
continues
obviously
with
budget
discussions
through
the
end
of
this
month
and
we'll
see
where
that
ends
up.
W
Lastly,
we
have
been
also
busy
with
several
upgrades
to
our
financial
software
and
so
we'll
continue
that
work
throughout
2021
and
into
2022
and
hopefully,
by
the
end,
we'll
have
a
much
more
efficient
operation
of
our
financial
activity
for
the
city.
So
I
will
end
the
report
there.
Thank
you.
C
T
C
It's
not
itself
a
controller
sticker
slogan,
it's
not
as
bad
as
we
feared.
Okay
thanks
and
have
anything
else
from
ca.
Okay,
the
planning
committee
and
chairman.
U
X
Yeah,
the
the
plan
was
just
to
summarize
the
memo
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
A
very
brief
summary.
Typically,
what
I
do
is
just
submit
the
report
to
counsel
and
the
mayor
and
then
with
conversations
with
director
cornish,
it
became
clear
that
that
doesn't
give
counsel
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
question
what's
in
the
report,
so
I
thought
tonight.
I
would
just
give
a
brief
overview
if
people
would
like
to
listen
and
then
open
it
up
for
questions.
X
All
right,
let
me
reduce
that
okay,
so
again,
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
ithaca
landmarks
preservation,
commission
and
the
staff
did
last
year.
X
One
of
the
primary
responsibilities
of
the
landmarks
commission
is
to
conduct
design
reviews
for
locally
designated
properties.
So
last
year
the
commission
reviewed
18
cases
or
applications
for
certificates
of
appropriateness
and
approved
16
of
the
18
they
reviewed
for
approval
rate
of
89,
which
is
pretty
good
and
on
par
with
kind
of
the
statewide
average.
X
E
X
A
90
96
approval
rate,
which
is
pretty
high
in
addition
to
the
required
design
reviews
the
commission
or
its
staff
also
looked
at
several
other
projects.
The
first
was
the
herald
square
project
in
the
sage
block
building
that
was
part
of
that.
As
part
of
their
site
plan
review
process.
There
was
a
condition
added
to
their
approval
that
required
them
to
go
to
the
landmarks
commission
for
the
restoration
of
the
sageblock
building.
X
So
the
commission
reviewed
the
alterations
to
the
windows,
the
repair
of
the
masonry,
the
new
storefront
and
then
staff
remained
involved
throughout
the
the
construction
phases
of
the
project
to
make
sure
that
everything
was
on
track.
They
also
commented
on
the
redevelopment
of
430
west
state
street,
which
is
the
mama
goose
building
for
you.
X
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
a
portion
of
the
mid
19th
century
commercial
building
where
mama
goose
is
currently
housed
will
be
retained
as
part
of
the
redevelopment
project
and
the
ilpc
was
very
supportive
of
that
proposal,
then
600,
thurston,
nav
or
bulge
hall.
This
was
another
recommended
review
by
the
planning
board.
X
Finally,
the
cascadilla
boathouse,
which
is
listed
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places
and
does
have
a
preservation
covenant
on
it.
So
any
work
that
is
proposed
for
the
building
has
to
be
reviewed
by
the
state
historic
preservation
office
in
2020.
The
city
was
awarded
an
environmental
protection
fund
grant
to
rehab
the
exterior
of
the
building,
and
so
staff
worked
with
historic
ithaca
to
select
an
architect
for
the
for
the
project,
barrow
architecture
out
of
rochester
and
then
later
in
the
year.
X
I
reviewed
design
drawings
for
that
project
which
went
out
to
bid
today.
Hopefully,
a
contractor
will
be
selected
soon,
and
the
hope
is
that
the
project
will
be
completed
by
the
end
of
the
year,
the
real
property
tax
exemption
for
historic
properties.
X
So,
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know,
this
is
a
program
that
was
established
in
1997..
Ithaca
was
actually
the
the
originator
of
this
program
and
shepard
through
the
enabling
legislation
that
now
allows
all
other
communities
in
the
in
the
state
that
wish
to
participate
in
it.
To
use
this
program,
it
provides
a
local
property
tax
exemption
for
major
improvements
to
historic
properties.
X
So
last
year
there
were
there
were
10
properties
enrolled
in
the
program
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
numbers,
they're
all
included
in
the
report,
and
so
the
10
properties
are
there.
The
the
savings
for
the
property
owners
is
included,
as
well
as
the
running
total
of
the
amount.
These
property
owners
have
saved
over
the
course
of
their
their
life
in
the
program,
and
you
know
the
total
investment
of
of
public
funds
through
the
property
tax
exemption
in
historic
preservation.
X
I
should
note,
too,
that
there
were
three
pro
three
properties:
that
retired
from
the
program.
Last
year,
so
they
reached
their
full
taxable
value
and
are
now
you
know
fully
fully
paying
their
full
tax
bill.
Another
part
of
what
I
see
my
job
as
as
being
important
in
my
job
is
doing
public
outreach
and
engagement,
so
there
were
two
things
that
I
did
last
year
to
engage
the
public.
X
The
first
was
unseen
ithaca,
a
tour
of
two
fountain
place,
which
is
the
former
ithaca
president's
home
on
east
hill,
right
next
door
to
jane
marcham's
house,
and
then
the
second
was
in
december.
I
co-presented
at
the
statewide
historic
preservation
conference
on
the
challenges
and
benefits
of
working
in
historic
preservation
in
ithaca.
It
was
a
great
program
with
that
that
I
worked
with
saratoga
springs
preservation,
their
their
director
there.
It's
it's
very
interesting.
X
The
similarities
between
our
two
communities,
we
as
a
commission
and
in
this
role,
we're
also
responsible
for
identifying
properties
with
potential
historic
value
or
properties
that
should
they're
valid
historic
history
should
be
included
in
our
planning
efforts.
So
I
worked
with
a
class
of
cornell
last
year
to
survey
24
properties
on
south
hill.
X
This
is
the
first
phase
of
likely
a
multi-year
project
that
will
look
at
potentially
historic
resources
on
south
hill
and
it's
something
that
we
as
a
department
thought
was
a
good
idea,
because
it
will
help
inform
other
planning
efforts
on
south
hill
and
potentially
an
upcoming
neighborhood
plan
and
then
finally,
which
we've
talked
about
the
last
couple.
Council
meetings,
the
the
partnership
with
the
town
to
consider
a
a
joint
historic
preservation
program.
T
X
Yes,
it's
a
10-year
life
cycle
and
there's
no
limit
to
the
number
of
properties
that
have
to
be
or
that
can
be
enrolled
in
the
program.
The
qualification
to
be
enrolled
is
a
substantial
investment
in
your
property,
either
rehabilitating
the
exterior
and
the
interior.
Doing
major
structural
work
on
any
activity
that
would
raise
the
assessed
value
of
the
property.
T
C
Thanks
so
I
have
george
and
then
donna.
R
I
just
want
to
say
that
I've
really
enjoyed
serving
this
liaison
to
the
ilpc
and
getting
to
know
brian
and
the
other
members,
and
I've
learned
a
whole
lot
about
windows
these
last
few
years.
So
it's
it's
actually
been
a
great
experience
to
to
be
with
them.
I
appreciate
that.
E
All
you
church
yeah,
thank
you,
donna
and
thank
you
brian,
for
your
good
work.
I
have
a
question
about
the
cascadilla
boathouse.
E
When
we
make
that
big
room
upstairs
into
the
common
council
lounge,
should
we
get
a
pool
table
that
kind
of
looks
like
mark
twain's
old
pool
table
like
something
that
fits
with
the
historic
character.
Y
Yeah,
thank
you
ryan
for
this.
Just
a
quick
question
about
the
tax-exempt
properties
that
have
been
participating.
I
I
recognize
some
of
these
are
probably
within
historic
districts.
Are
they
all
within
historic
districts?
Are
there
some
buildings
that
are
sort
of
stand
alone.
X
X
One
one
note
about
the
list:
two:
I
noticed
a
typo
this
this
evening
when
I
was
reviewing
the
document.
It
should
be
310
west
state
street,
not
310
east
state
street.
S
Thank
you
thanks
brian
for
for
all
of
this.
Could
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
came
out
of
the
result
of
your
south
hill
investigation?
Is
I'm
going
to
presume
that
maybe
a
group
of
properties
were
identified?
What
what
are
the
next
steps
with
the
result
of
that
work.
X
So
it
was,
it
was
largely
fact-finding
work
to
see
what
resources
might
be
there.
The
the
students
looked
at
properties
that
have
historic,
merit
and
and
properties
that
that
likely
don't
would
not
rise
to
the
level
of
of
designation.
X
They
were
scattered
throughout
the
neighborhood
they're,
largely
on
hudson
and
pleasant
street.
I
believe,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
of
additional
work
that
will
need
to
be
done
to
to
kind
of
have
a
collect,
a
large
collection
of
buildings.
So
we
can
really
understand
what
you
know:
the
historic
resources
are
and
and
what,
if
any,
any
designations
or
proposed
nominations
come
out
of
that.
S
Okay,
so
it
would
be
time
then,
I'm
going
to
presume
before
any
kind
of
recommendation
comes,
and
that
would
be
in
advance
of
a
south
hill
neighborhood
plan
or
in
conjunction
with.
X
It
would
be
in
conjunction
with,
as
we've
worked
through
the
the
neighborhood
planning
documents,
we've
been
trying
to
include
historic
resource
surveys
and
recommendations
for
designations
within
those
documents.
That
way
the
the
designation
of
historic
resources
is
a
part
of
the
overall
planning
process
for
a
neighborhood.
That
way,
you
know
everything
is
really
evaluated.
At
the
same
time,.
C
U
5.2
is
approval
of
the
ira
2021
mini
action
plan,
whereas
the
city
has
contracted
with
the
urban
renewal
agency
to
administer,
implement
and
monitor
the
city's
hud
entitlement
program.
U
Whereas
at
its
january
meeting
the
iura
authorized
ithaca,
neighborhood
housing
services
to
incur
home
investment
partnerships
program,
pre-award
costs
and
an
amount
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
undertake
the
110
auburn
street,
affordable
homeownership
project,
subject
to
common
council
approval,
whereas
the
us
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
requires
that
at
least
15
percent
of
home
funds
be
set
aside
for
specific
activities
to
be
undertaken
by
a
special
type
of
nonprofit
called
a
community
housing
development
organization.
U
There's
a
list
of
requirements
here
the
amount
of
pre-award
may
not
exceed
25
of
the
current
home
allocation,
two
preparation
of
a
proposed
mini
action
plan
for
the
pre-award
project.
U
Now,
therefore,
be
a
result
that
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
ithaca
hereby
approves
the
proposed
action
plan
to
authorize
inhs
to
incur
home
pre-award
costs
an
amount
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
undertake
the
110
auburn
street.
Affordable
homeownership
project
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
2021
hud
action
plan
shall
include
the
approved
pre-award
activity.
Is
the
chdo
set
aside
project
funded
from
the
home
allocation
and
iso
move.
I
Thank
you.
I
will
just
say
that
I'm
very
happy
to
support
this
resolution.
It
meets
a
number
of
goals.
It
will
allow
home
ownership
in
the
city
of
ithaca
for
a
low,
moderate
income
family
and
will
ensure,
by
being
part
of
inhs's
community
housing
trust
program
that
that
home
will
remain
in
the
affordable
market
in
perpetuity.
I
So
this
seems
to
meet
a
number
of
goals
and
I'm
very
happy
to
support
this.
U
Yeah
I'll
second,
this
and
you
know
we
had
a
lengthy
discussion
about
this
at
the
planning
committee,
and
I
said
I
said
this
there,
but
I'll
say
it
again.
Just
you
know,
there's
been
this
trend.
I've
definitely
seen
in
my
neighborhood,
where
you
know
cheaper
homes
that
maybe
need
some
work
tend
to
be
scooped
up
by
developers.
Who
then
will
flip
them
and
rent
them
out
by
the
bedroom?
And
I
think
it's
great
that
nhs
is
proposing
to
buy
this
and-
and
you
know,
sell
it
to
a
homeowner.
U
We
will
live
in
fall,
creek
a
place
where
you
know,
as
we've
seen
there's
the
housing
market
is
really
competitive.
It's
really
difficult
for
lower
income
people
to
find
a
foothold
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
advantages
to
living
downtown.
As
we
all
know,
you
know
school
districts
and
being
close
to
work,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
great
opportunity
for
for
the
city.
C
C
Those
opposed,
and
that
carries
nine
to
one.
Thank
you,
seth
any
other
report
from
planning.
U
I
guess
the
only
thing
is
you
know
we'll
continue
to
do
our
review
of
the
green
green
building
code.
That's
gonna
be
up
on
the
next
agenda,
so
anyone
who's
interested
in
that
topic.
In
fact,
I
think
we're
actually
inviting
we're
going
to
invite
the
full
council
to
the
meeting.
You
know
it's.
Obviously
it's
a
really
big,
complicated
change
for
the
city.
We
had
a
lengthy
discussion
in
the
last
month's
meeting
and
we'll
continue
it
and
hopefully
voted
on
the
council
at
the
next
meeting.
C
Great
so
next
is
appointments
is
a
slate
of
reappointments
to
the
community
police
board.
Anyone
like
to
move
those
moved
by
graham.
Is
there
something?
Well,
it's
our
liaison.
Thank
you,
graham,
for
acting
as
liaison.
Is
there
a
second
second
bestseller,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously
next
reports?
Any
reports
have
council
liaisons.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
It's
not
so
much
a
liaison
report
as
a
report
as
a
member
of
the
tcat
board
and
ducks
and
can
chime
in
on
this
as
well,
but
the
tcat
board
has
decided
that
there
will
not
be
a
reapplication
of
a
build
grant
from
tcat,
and
what
that
means
is
that
tcat,
the
facility
will
remain
on
willow
avenue
for
the
foreseeable
future.
I
C
Okay,
reporter
state
attorney
none
other
than
the
upcoming
executive
session
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
So
there's
a
motion
to
enter
executive
session
to
discuss
labor
contract
negotiations,
move
by
steve
seconded
by
donna
all
those
in
favor
and
that
carries
unanimously.
There's
not
a
vote
expected
right.
Ari.
T
C
A
Yeah,
I
am.