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B
C
C
C
Sorry
comments
from
the
public.
D
My
name
is
Zach
Nguyen
I
live
here
in
the
city,
just
a
couple
blocks
away,
and
last
month
I
spoke
to
the
board
about
two
fifty
thousand
dollars
on
the
requests
for
black
hands
Universal
and
unbroken
promise
initiative.
It's
under
consideration
by
the
common
Council
I
asked
George
McGonagall
to
forward
you
an
article
I
wrote
containing
evidence
that
black
hands
Universal
was
operating
an
unlicensed
marijuana
pop-up
shop
well
unbroken
promise
initiative.
President
Jordan
Clements.
E
E
D
D
D
C
C
Our
responsibilities
as
a
community
police
board
going
through
the
charter,
I,
don't
see
where
the
community
police
board
has
any
say
so
in
common
Council
funding
organizations
that
are
doing
some
sort
of
service
for
the
city,
it's
not
directly
related
to
police
responsibilities
and
it's
not
affecting
the
police
department
directly.
C
A
G
Yes,
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
I
understand
the
concern
that
you're
expressing
but
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that
habit
of
having
to
make
people
feel
like
you
have
to
be
a
fan
of
ipd
to
be
to
receive
or
be
in
consideration
for
receiving
of
funds.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
two
matters
are
separated.
C
Thank
you
Richard,
as
long
as
we're
I'm
going
to
jump
through
some
hoops
here
and
get
to
the
the
new
item
that
I
put
on,
and
it's
a
discussion
with
regard
to
and
adding
to
our
agendas
on
the
regular
basis.
What
is
called
privilege
of
the
floor
and
privilege
of
the
floor
would
be
that
if,
if
we
have
it
on
our
agenda,
it
allows
us,
as
board
members
to
respond
to
a
citizen
who
is
making
some
sort
of
a
statement
and
or
complaint.
C
We
have
not
done
this
in
the
past.
I
just
did
it
today,
so
we
have
to
think
about
that
and
decide
if
we
want
to
engage
directly
and
respond
directly
or
do
what
we
have
been
doing,
which
is
not
to
get
engaged
in
those
conversations
that
people
are
bringing
to
us
as
a
citizen.
Just
not
it's
not
a
complaint,
usually
the
recommendations
or
things
that
they
want
us
to
pay
attention
to
or
something
like
that,
whether
or
not
respond
to
those.
Certainly,
our
complaints
are
handled
and
know
how
to
handle
those.
C
But
like
the
the
comments
and
the
situation
that
Zach
has
brought
to
our
attention,
if
somebody
else
does
something
similar,
we
should
decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
have
privilege
of
the
floor
on
our
agendas
on
an
ongoing
basis,
so
that
we
would
respond
or
could
respond
we
don't
have
to.
But
we
could.
H
C
Okay,
all
right
so
I'll
touch
Richard.
Any
comment.
G
As
far
as
the
floor
I
agree,
I
agree
with
you
and
I
think
we
could
talk
more
a.
C
H
Just
like
to
see
track
language
like
what
that
might
look
like,
because
I
couldn't
wrap,
my
I
didn't
I,
wasn't
familiar
enough
with
that
term
to
really
have
an
idea
of
what
that
is.
So
if
we
can
get
draft
language
so
that
we
can
add
it
to
our
operation
manual,
whatever
okay.
E
H
C
I
understand
it
came
to
my
head
because
I
told
Seth
that
I
would
get
respect
to
him
and
then
it
allows
George
to
also
respond.
If
he
chooses
you
know
it's
not
in
our
you
know.
We
don't
have
that
laid
out
in
this
board,
but
if
we
have
it
available,
then
you're
free
to
respond
fire
and
we've
always
let
you
but
I,
don't
know
stop
yeah,
but
it
would.
It
would
make
it
more
formal
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
G
F
C
He
thanks
Zach
report
from
common
Council,
hi
George,
hello,.
I
C
I
Danny
Baker
a
number
of
people
who
are
fully
concerned
about
what's
going
on
in
the
jungle
and
who
have
knowledge
about
the
jungle
like
karmagini,
and
that
will
keep
both
kid
with
Second
Wind
cottages
and
it
worked
with
people
jungle
for
many
years
we
all
went
and
met
with
I
guess
the
regional
director,
you
would
say,
of
of
the
railroad
company
that
one
actually
releases
the
rail
line.
I
Currently,
that
goes
to
the
cargo
salt,
and
they
all
saw
spoke
with
them
and
learned
I
felt
nursing,
good
things
from
them
and
and
established
an
opportunity
to
collaborate
with
them
in
terms
of
emergency
access
and
understanding
what
their
concerns
are
right.
They
actually
have
Rail
lines
all
over
the
country
and
dealing
with
homeless.
Encampments
is
a
big
part
of
what
they
do
and
concerned
with
people
getting
run
over
by
trains
which
does
happen,
realities
and.
I
That
we
did
a
tour
of
the
close
end
jungle.
Jungle
number
one.
They
call
it
just
basically
between
Agway
and
so
Carpet
Outlet.
I
That's
also
where
some
of
the
more
recent
violence
is
is
locked
down
south
down
along
the
tracks
to
where
there's
encampments
behind
Walmart.
I
That
was
a
good
day
in
terms
of
learning
about.
What's
going
on,
oh
and
I
also
say
that
council
members,
Stephen
deeney
and
Kumar
from
Fort,
Worth
and
Don
Fleming
from
the
third
war
were
also
there,
which
is
encouraging
to
me
and
Cynthia,
because
I
think
it's
important
that
other
council
members
really
get
an
understanding
of.
I
I've
I'll
just
posted
credit
to
Cynthia.
It
was
kind
of
of.
I
Serendipitous
is
that
I
don't
even
know
that
we're
being
Joy,
but
the
the
person
from
the
railroad
was
on
their
way
to
Vacation
Canada
and
was
coming
through
and
I.
Don't
know
how
we
found
that
out,
but
we
did
suggested.
I
Staff,
City
staff
is
also
invited,
but
chief
of
staff
was
out
of
town,
and
so
it
was
just
us
council
members
that
were
there
basically
instigated
by
the
fact
that
this
high-level
railroad
person
was
in
in
town
Pittsburgh.
A
couple
days
and
railroad
property
is
adjacent
to
the
city
property
in
that
jungle
number
one.
H
I
The
yard
manager
was
also
there.
The
guy
was
need
to
Target
things
locally
pointed
out
that
anything
that
has
any
scratch
value,
Lively
Stone.
I
Like
gold
railroad
ties
that
type
of
thing,
so
that's
a
problem
for
them,
but
I
didn't
hear
any
of
them
say
we
want
to
talk
about
property.
Did
you
hear
anything
like
that?
Jesus.
B
They
would
definitely
prefer
not
to
have
people
on
the
property
because
of
their
concerns.
I
think
they
they
kind
of
realized
the
reality
of
the
situation,
but
my
perception
was
they
referred
to
have
not
had
people
Rarity
because
of
you
know
that
accents
they're,
worried
about
and
the
facts,
not
only
in
the
staff.
The.
F
A
B
They
get
stolen
or
damaged
when
they're
trying
to
steal
them,
so
they
prefer
to
not
be
there,
but
they
didn't.
They
realized
they're
willing
to
work
with
the
city.
H
H
From
the
city
planning,
because
that
was
it
talks
about
working
group
on
sanctioned
enchantments
yeah
and
it
talks
about
red,
yellow
and
green
zones
and
one
of
their
red
zones
is
city-owned
property
at
jungle.
One
correct,
but
as
I
was
reading,
it
I
started
to
realize
that
you
really
can't
clean
out
a
half
of
gun
one
and
expect
that
to
work
either.
H
C
H
I
I
So
there's
a
an
arm
of
water
that
goes
from
Six
Mile
Creek,
South
to
Cecil,
B,
Malone,
Drive,
yeah
and
the.
I
So
it's
kind
of
the
middle
of
sandwich
so
and
since
the
east
side
or
excuse
me
the
west
side
of
that
city,
land
has
been
cleared,
there's
probably
more
people
on
the
east
side
than
there
used
to
be
both
on
the
city
parcel
and
the
railroad
parts.
So
you
practically
speaking,
you
can't
clear
that
sliver
of
city
land
without
also
clearing
the
railroad
land
there.
A
I
How
we're
going
to
do
that?
We
may
not
do
that.
C
C
A
I
Happen
quite
accurate.
How
so
because
City
staff
was
not
there
other
than
I
could
be
in.
A
I
I
Five
members
of
common
Council
were
there,
but
this
this
thing
that
you're,
referring
to
this
draft
of
use
of
City
properties
of
red
Amber
and
green
zones,
has
to
be
approved
by
County
Council
and
currently,
it
is
being
discussed
in
language,
is
being.
C
Yeah
I'd
just
make
it
red,
I
mean
I
was
over
there,
it's
a
mess
and
they're
hurting
each
other.
You
know,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
city
would
feel
more
responsible
about
protecting
the
homeless
people
that
are
in
those
spaces
from
the
other
people
who
are
just
criminals,
so
the
police
and
the
caseworkers
I
think
should
go
in
there
together,
so
that
the
like
they
get
on
an
ATV
or
something
and
there'd
be
okay,
like
Tammy
Baker
and
one
of
your
officers.
C
They
make
relationships
with
these
people,
the
ones
that
are
getting
harmed
by
the
ones
that
are
causing
crime.
They
have
a
resource,
they
can
get
help,
they
can
get
help
from
a
caseworker
or
they
can
get
help
from
a
police
officer.
This
is
what
you
know.
The
reimagining
wants
I,
don't
understand
why
it's
not
being
discussed
with
this
menagerie.
I
Of
zones
that
we've
got
going
on
I
think
what
you
just
described
is
going
on.
I
think
people
are
being
helped
by
the
Outreach
workers
and
by
ipd
there's
several
ipd
officers,
who
know
people
living
in
The
Jungle
by
name
and
and
do
help
them.
One
of
the
problems
I
was
unaware
of
is
when.
I
I,
don't
know
how
much
detail
I
want
to
get
into,
but
sometimes
when
a
person
in
the
jungle
tries
to
help
the
police
solve
a
situation,
they
get
well.
One
woman
got
her.
You
can
and
burned,
because
she
had
spoken
to
the
cops
not
to
turn
anybody
in
but
to
try
to
help
find
another
person.
I
C
But
what
happened
after
that?
So
you
had
a
person,
that's
cooperating,
because
there
was
something
wrong
going
on.
They
were
retaliated
against
by
their
community.
Their
items
were
destroyed.
Then
what
happened?
Did
the
police
do
an
investigation
to
try
to
help
her
at
that
point
or
did
nothing
happen?.
I
C
Well,
engaging
the
officers
with
the
crimes
that
are
being
committed
is
very,
very
important
and
I
don't
get
any
sense
at
all.
From
all
of
the
discussion,
I
mean
I'm,
watching
the
public
safety
meetings
and
watching
all
of
these
meetings,
as
I
told
you,
I
went
over
to
Cuba
Lumber
and
I
was
talking
to
the
dudes
a
few
of
the
lumber.
You
know
this
is
a
big
problem.
D
I
C
Sorry
I
got
on
my
soapbox
I'm,
so
frustrated
that
this
that
I
see
you
know,
like
maybe
I'm
a
simpleton
but
I
see
this
as
a
solvable
issue.
But
you
have
to
have
the
courage
to
do
it.
You
have
to
have
the
courage
to
say,
there's
a
distinction
between
people
who
are
homeless
and
people
who
are
just
criminals,
and
you
have
to
deal
with
those
two
population
differently.
I
Today,
you're
also
dealing
with
people
with
serious
mental
health
problems,
in
which
helping
themselves
logically,
is
may
not
be
an
option.
You're
also
dealing
with
people
who
are
so
addicted
to
drugs.
That
focus
is
is
getting
more
drugs
and
that
may
very
likely
lead
to
criminal
Behavior
and
also
taking
advantage
of
other
people.
I
There's
there's
people
getting
taken
advantage
of
in
a
very
horrible
way
living
in
the
jungle
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
all
the
businesses
on
the
West
End
are
being
affected.
Every
single
one.
I
This
is
a
simple
minor
thing,
but
the
one
thing
gives
me:
when
you're
going
through
there
was
in
this
huge
pile
of
bicycles,
there's
like
little
kids
spices
nobody's
going
to
be
able
to
ride
a
little
kid's
bicycle
and
that
little
kid
who
picked
out
their
bike
for
their
birthday
is
heartbroken,
because
somebody
stole
their
bikes
and
for
what
purpose?
I
G
Billy
Shirley's
on
a
roll
but
I
had
a
question
George
about
from
the
the
what
was
it
called
the
framework
policy
report
I
couldn't,
and
maybe
you
can
just
better
explain
it
to
me.
I
couldn't
figure
out
from
the
report
how
exactly
the
like
the
red
area,
the
blue,
I'm,
sorry
green
and
the
Amber
like
how
did
they
determine
the
Landscaping
of
or
like
I
couldn't
understand
like?
Why
is
a
I'm,
sorry?
Why
is?
Why
is
the
green
zone?
G
This
particular
this
this
much
or
why
is
the
the
Amber
this
and
why
is
the
like?
I
couldn't
understand
the
reasoning
behind
it
or,
and
so
for
me,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
explain
like
the
green
zone
is
where
there
is
the
heavy
population
of
folks
or
the
blue
I
couldn't?
Would
you
be
able
to
kind
of
explain
the.
I
Is
basically
the
close-in
area
between
Brinley
Street
and
excuse
me
Malone,
and
that
is
the
closest
proximity
to
the
West
End
businesses
and
these
floral
Estates,
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
problems
were
last
summer
and
continue
to
be
actually.
But
that's
why
that
was
a
red
zone.
Is
that
is
that
into
that
part
yeah?
I
G
I
Already
encampments
there,
but
it's
accessible
and
that's
where
the
group
that
was
considering
the
tides
proposal
thought
it
would
be
good
to
have
kind
of
a
community
room
and
and
the
bathrooms,
and
actually
cabins
on
city
property,
there's
room
for
it.
There
that's
been
whittled
down
to
the
idea
of
having
trailers
with
showers
and
toilets
as
a
start,
and
people
would
have
their
own
encampments
in
that
area,
but
they
would
be
free
to
Camp
there.
D
I
I
That
for
dumping
spoils
from
dirt
and
this
and
that,
but
both
both
could
happen
next
to
each
other
and
the.
I
That
not
just
fire
and
police
would
have
easier
access
to
that
area,
but
also
the
Outreach
workers
and
the
service
providers.
If,
if
the
majority
of
the
encampments
were
there,
the
services
could
be
provided
in
a
much
more
practical
way.
I
The
Amber
zones
are
basically
City
properties
that
are
in
between
that
would
be
behind.
Lowe's
may
or
may
not
include
the
south
end
of
Cherry
Street.
I
The
idea
at
least
right
now
of
the
Amber
zones
is
people
who
are
camping.
There
would
not
be
asked
to
leave
unless
there
was
some
kind
of
bad
occurrence
like
of
violence
manufacturing
drugs
like
methamphetamine,
you.
I
To
stay
in
the
Amazon,
that's
the
differentiation
between
it's
really
and
there
are
currently
plenty
of
people
in
the
what
would
be
an
Amber
Zone,
which
is
particularly
behind
wolves.
A
G
Can
you
hear
me
now
a
little
better?
Okay?
Sorry
if
you
can't,
but
my
next
question
is
about
what,
if,
if
it's
easier
to
have
accessibility
to
the
green
zone,
is
there
an
already
established
or
are
there
talks
or
plans
for
establishing
some
sort
of
tracking
mechanism
for
the
folks
that
are
in
the
green
zone?
I.
G
Is
a
a
camping
if
this
is
going
to
be
like
a
Campground
site
in
some
interesting
way?
Is
there
I
guess?
Are
we
keeping
track
of
the
guests
I'm,
not
sure
what
to
how
to
best
phrase
it
that
way,
but
the
folks
that
are
there
keeping
track
of
what
keeping
track
of
the
folks
that
are
there
in
the
green
guests
was.
I
This
is
early
days
and
we're
we're
finding
something
that
makes
things
better,
not
just
for
the
West
end,
but
for
the
people
who
are
living
homeless
and
and
the
idea
of
this
green
zone
basically
make
some
some
more
Comfort
personally
in
the
form
of
hot
showers
and
toilets,
but
also
more
safety.
Because,
if
we're
not
going
to
say
you
can't
do
drugs
or
anything
like
that.
C
I
I
I'll
I'll
say
this:
the
boss
will
be
certainly
felony.
Laws
will
be
enforced,
whether
they
happen
in
Cornell,
Heights
or
in
the
jungle.
C
A
I
Initial
urgers
will
be
the
Outreach
workers
and
if,
if
that.
I
Then
the
police
will
be
included
in
that
urging
people
believe
and
in
the
past
that
has
actually
worked.
People
were
asked
to
leave
where
it
could
be
watering.
The
facility
is
behind
Lowe's
and
Walmarts.
There
used
to
be
a
lot
of
encampments
there
and
when
City
level
that
area
and
deforested
it
so
that
we
could
put
spoils
from
the
dredging
that
theoretically
will
happen
one
day
well,
equal.
What
and
Carmen
do
you
need
help
with
that?
Other
Outreach
workers
help
with
that
police
officer
yourself
is
that
nobody
got
arrested.
I
Nobody
got
forcibly
moves
and-
and
that's.
A
E
H
A
motion
is
the
rest
of
the
number
one
that
that
be
at
some
point,
empties,
that
people
be
encouraged
to
go
other
places,
do
a
reasonable
to
it.
I
I
Be
a
way,
hopefully
for
people
to
say:
well,
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
comfortable
Southwest
in
the
Stream
Zone,
where
it
is
safer
and
and
we've
got
these
facilities
now
they
one
of
the
dangers
is
if
that
gets
too
too
many
people,
and
some
of
whom
don't
like
each
other.
I
I
We
have
not
hired
that
person
yet,
and
the
only
money
we've
spent
so
far
is
to
suck
in
terminal
one.
So,
but
we
have
the
money
to
either
lease
or
buy
these
trailers
showers
Etc
we're
having
trouble
finding
an
outfit
to
lease
them
from,
and
you
have
to
be
determined
whether
a
person
who
would
be
hired
to
watch
these
facilities
so
that
they
don't
get
trashed
it's
going
to
be
a
city,
employee
or
or
an
independent
contractor.
We
don't
know
that
yet
that's
one.
G
G
Residential
community
in
a
way
but
I
got
a
question
about
when
they
build
the
toilet.
I
G
H
I
I
C
I
I
And
you
know,
part
of
this
is
part
of
this.
Is
they
closed
down
all
the
Mental
Hospitals.
C
Understand
but
then
you
know
this
this
issue
well,
the
city
is
struggling
with
the
fact
that
these
people
are
residing
or
hanging
out
on
city
property.
You
and
I
both
know
that
the
issue
of
homelessness
belongs
with
the
county.
The
county
has
the
responsibility
to
House
people
that
are
homeless
and
I,
believe
that
they've
fallen
down
on
the
job
and
something
needs
to
be
worked
out
where
everybody
gets
in
the
room.
A
I
C
I
You
know
I,
think
I,
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
there
are
people
on
County
Legislature
who
are
serious
about
trying
to
resolve
these
problems,
and
there
are
others
who
sitting
problem
because
the
jungle's
in
the.
C
I
C
So,
even
if
they
resolve
what's
going
on
with
jungle,
one
two,
three
and
four
red
white,
green
and
blue
they're
still
going
to
have
homeless
people
wandering
around.
So
it
needs
to
be
a
comprehensive
plan
where
everybody
sits
down
and
agrees
to
how
we
can
do
this
temporarily
and
long
term.
I
C
G
B
Yeah
good
point,
I
think
that
hasn't
been
discussed.
This
is
a
issue
bigger
than
the
city,
the
economy.
This
is
all
over
our
country.
B
B
A
B
Trespassing,
which
is
in
the
penal
Law
Group,
but
the
end,
the
result
is
like
we
go
down
there
and
arrest
someone,
but
that
looks
like
giving
them
a
ticket,
maybe
bringing
back
to
IPS,
take
their
picture
and
then
they
get
let
go
right,
so
it
doesn't
solve
anything.
It
creates
a
lot
of
work
for
the
court.
The
district
attorney
may
I
mean
any
prostitute.
The
cases
I
think
that's.
You
know
we're
going
to
be
part
of
the
solution
and
we
want
to
help.
B
The
railroad
has
given
us
written
permission
to
ask
people
to
leave
the
property
if
we
are
on
it.
Basically
on
their
behalf,
they
don't
want
them
there.
B
The
homelessness
is
a
serious
issue.
It
there's
all
these
other
things
that
are
implying
that
have
been
talked
about
here:
addiction,
Mental,
Health,
serious
crime,
being
infatuated,
the
environment,
the
pollution,
the
thefts
and
all
the
bicycles
and
Commercial.
You
know
release
the
commercial
construction
properties
are
getting
their
tools
stolen
and
the
thousands
of
dollars
all
the
time.
A
lot
of
those
are
ending
up
down
there.
B
We
can
try
to
do
stuff,
but
until
Society
kind
of
addressed
some
of
these
larger
pictures
we're
not
it's
not
going
to
be
effective.
We
you
know
us
going
down
there
right
now,
I'm,
just
writing.
People
to
take
a
trespassing
doesn't
solve
anything.
It
doesn't
look
any
different
tomorrow,
except
for
we
have
more
paperwork.
The
court
has
more
paperwork
and
the
D.A
more
paperwork,
but
it
doesn't
doesn't
mean
that
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
make.
People
move,
especially
people
that
have
mental
illness,
they're
gonna
at
best
move
somewhere
else.
B
So
I
think
that
addressing
like
some
of
these
larger
pictures,
probably
just
need
to
be
kind
of
addressed
in
conjunction
and
I,
think
that's
fundamentally,
our
society
has
failed
across
the
country
of
doing
that.
Right.
That's
why
you
see
it
in
Seattle
and
Portland
and
Tulsa
over
the
railroad
has
a
huge
problem,
but
I
mean
everywhere.
B
It
has
gotten
a
lot
worse
than
10.
You.
B
Ago,
people
that
were
down
there
just
didn't
want
Services.
They
had
a
lot
of
them,
had
places
to
go
and
learn
time.
The
population
really
dwindle
a
month
before
Grassroots
the
population
build,
and
then
the
people
that
like
were
here
like
the
hangovers
from
Grassroots
like
would
start
to
dissipate
as
the
weather
cooled
off.
That's
not
that's
not
at
all
representative
what
it
is
down
there.
That's
I
think
everyone
here
is
where
I
saw.
B
We
realized
the
significance
of
the
problem.
There
are
serious
crimes
down
there.
We
do.
We
do
attempt
to
address
those
when
we
can.
The
other
misconception
is
like
what
are
the
police
doing
about
it
like
the
criminal
justice
is
only
set
up
to
be
able
to
function
when
citizens
cooperate.
So
if
someone's
a
victim
of
a
crime
oftentimes,
the
police
can't
make
the
arrest
or
move
forward
in
prosecution
in
the
VA.
B
If
there's
not
a
witness
coming
for
court
to
like
tell
the
story,
so
we
try
and
work
with
people
we
try
and
make
sure
that
they
feel
safe.
We
try
and
refer
to
other
services.
You
know
especially
victims
or
people
that
we
think
that
you
know
we
work
with
Abby
closely.
We
refer
people
DSS,
all
these
other
places
to
get
services,
but
you
can't
and
are
not
in
a
position
to
really
address
this
independently.
G
I
There's
County
social
services
who
serve
the
jungle,
there's
a
reach
Medical,
which
is
a
non-profit
organization.
That's
gotten
much
bigger
in
recent
years,
and
they
they
help
people
in
the
jungle
with
medical
problems
there.
It
is
Family
and
Children's.
Services
have
a
couple
Outreach
workers
that
the
county
and
the
city
both
help,
pay
their
salaries
and
there's
probably
others
that
I'm
quite
a
few
Outreach
workers
and
Continuum
of
Care
of
what.
I
Being
thought
might
be
a
good
idea
right
now
is
to
have
somebody
who
would
coordinate
all
the
Outreach
workers
and
all
those
activities
so
that
it
was
more
focused
and
less
duplication
and
Dodge
it
up,
which
I
think
is
a
good
idea.
I
think
Tammy
Baker
is
going
to
help
with
that
work,
County
and
hopefully
the
city
hires.
Somebody
we'll
be
able
to
pitch
in
with
that
too.
But
I
agree
with
Shirley
that
social
services
is
a
county
responsibility,
one
more
thing
Richard,
you
know
you
asked
my
thought,
I
think
the
plan.
B
Is
a
good
start,
but
it's
certainly
not
done
and
I
think
that
whatever
is
figured
out
needs
to
be
looked
at
from
a
longevity
standpoint.
I,
don't
know
if
people
don't
hear
members,
but
10
years
ago
the
area
behind
Agway
was
was
cleared
out.
There
I
mean
there's
been
problems
back.
We've
responded
and
investigated
numerous
tasks
back
there
in
Syria
called
the
wall
with
strategies
to
a
water,
and
there.
B
There,
for
a
significant
time
set
more
than
several
months,
and
now
you
look
at
it,
and
you
would
never
know
that
today,
and
so
we
kind
of
we
went
in.
We
did
this
and,
like
you
know,
tied
me
back
in
so
to
speak
right
and
whatever
we
did
10
years
ago,
it
didn't
work
or
wasn't
sustained
and
now
so
whatever
we
do
now,
it
needs
to
have
that
kind
of
thought
like.
B
How
can
we
do
this
and
sustain
it,
and
if
that,
in
my
opinion,
if
that
means
we
can
only
keep
you
know,
we
can't
we
can't
find
a
place
for
everybody.
So
we
just
shrink
the
area.
Let's
start
there
and
put
the
area
we
shrink
and
leave
it
there
right
and
kind
of
chip
away
at
that,
because
another
problem
is
I.
Think
I
know
that
there
are
some
people
that
are
basically
passing
through
the
area
and
end
up
and
they're
like.
B
C
B
Let's
take
care
of
the
people
we
have
here
and
we
can't
keep
having
people
from
outside
the
air
there
coming
in
back
feeling.
We
don't
have
endless
resources
right,
so
we
got
to
combat
the
reputation
of
hey.
Go
there,
it's
a
good
place.
We
got
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
shrink
the
area
more
aren't
just
constantly
coming
back
and
backfilling,
so
that
that
to
me
is
the
biggest
thing
that
this
plan
should
address
in
some
way
or
be
prepared
to
address
and.
C
You
know
Tammy
spoke
to
us
about.
You
know
the
fact
that
the
people
that,
when
she
was
over
at
Art
House
about
the
fact
that
the
caseworkers
that
are
going
or
Outreach
workers,
whatever
their
titles,
are
they're
not
consistent.
They
don't
all
you
know,
ask
the
same
thing.
F
B
We
don't
give
them
direction,
we
give
them
advice,
we
can
ask
them,
but
they're
not
sitting
boys.
Some
of
them
are
counting
toys
and
you
could
argue
that
a
couple
of
them
are
joint
City,
County
Employees,
although
it's
not
necessarily
structured
that
way,
but
we
really
can't
give
them
direction
or
hold
them
accountable,
or
you
understand
what.
A
G
Yeah,
where
are
we
when
it
comes
to
establishing
this
coordinator
person,
George.
G
G
C
I'm
sorry
Chief
did
you
want
to
add
something
else?
Okay,
does
anybody
have
anything
further
with
regard
to
this
pilot
plan.
I
I
When
you
want
the
watering
facility
create
a
situation
where
people
had
to
move
Carmen
helped
him
move.
You
know
these
people
have
a
lot
of
stuff
and
to
ask
them
to
just
move
it
all
and
do
the
song
over
here.
While
you
go
get
more
stuff
and
make
it
start,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
to
assist
in
this
process.
B
Know
anything
else,
but
I
do
so
ipd
very
timely,
but
unintentionally
we
have
a
training.
This
past
spring
on
you
know
the
homeless
population
and
like
it
really
laid
out
like
the
best
course
of
action.
How,
if
and
when
you
have
to
remove
you,
know
people
it's
going
to
be
in
a
certain
area
and
it
really
like
laid
out
all
this
stuff
right.
How
did
you
have
personal
Outreach,
extended
services,
try
and
find
resources,
housing,
medical
stuff
and
part
of
the
process,
as
George
has
pointed
out,
is
like
building
all
like.
B
You
know,
if
you
can't
take
your
stuff
with
you
like,
we'll
store
it
for
a
short
period
of
time
as
long
as
it's
not
contaminated
or
not
hazardous,
or
something
like
that.
So
there's
all
these
little
layers
that
are
resource
defensive
but,
like
that's,
you
don't,
like
I,
think
people
just
think,
like
all
the
social
work
over
there
and
found
the
move
on
Monday
and
Wednesday,
if
you
still
in
the
ticket,
that's
not
really
helping
about
like
there's.
B
C
It's
this
one
happened
in
Saratoga,
Springs
and
the
reason
I
pay
attention
to
that
is
because
that's
where
I
grew
up
or
matured,
maybe
but
anyway,
they
did
this,
but
they
did
it
in
combination
with
the
blue
law.
So
they
went
in
prior
to
the
Blue
Law
and
said
that
you're
gonna
have
to
move
and
we'll
help
you
move
and
lease
for
services
and
blah
blah
blah.
C
They
strategically
went
in
with
all
the
resources
that
they
had,
they
marshaled
them
all
up
and
it
was
I
think
the
net
result
was.
They
only
had
to
actually
physically
move
four
people
yeah,
they
found
other
places.
They
understood
that
there
were
other
places
that
they
could
go,
that
weren't,
arduous
or
you
know
painful,
for
them
is
what
they
were
led
to
believe.
H
C
For
it,
oh
my
God,
okay,
thanks
on
that,
do
you
have
a
report,
sir.
B
B
B
It's
lost
to
more.
There
is
somebody
else's
now
eligible
retire.
That
I
think
is
probably
on
the
horizon,
but
nothing
imminent.
Somebody
else
eligible
think
in
September,
that's
correct!
It's
only
an
officer
retirement.
B
B
A
lot
so
yeah
we
are
very
actively
and
that's
what
you're
recruiting.
B
G
The
had
a
question
about
well
one,
the
current
number
of
staff
that
you
have
now
I
understand,
I
think
you
lost
three
but
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
official
number
is
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
was
over
the
next
five
months.
B
I,
don't
have
a
specific
number,
I
haven't
done
the
math
and
I.
Don't
know
that
I
can
do
that
from
memory.
I
think
low
low
50s
with
in
the
40s
that
are
actually
able
to
work.
You
know
we
have
a
couple
people
out
on
long-term
injury,
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
it's
pretty
to
say
it's
Bare
Bones
understatement.
B
Are
talking
about
doing
an
event
in
August
there's
not
historically,
the
National
Night
Out
was
coordinated
through
the
Housing
Authority
I
think
they're
taking
this
year
off,
but
they
have
a
lot
of
projects
going
on
and
stuff.
So
we're
trying
to
talk
through
something
we
just
did
something
we
were
asked.
We
did
something
at
Titus
Powers
recently
at
their
request.
B
B
I
think
the
August
8th
still
tended
for
us
doing
a
new
Outreach
still
trying
to
our
hard
part,
is
to
get
people
to
staff
those
because
we
can't
pull
anyone
from
their
job,
so
we
gotta
get
people
to
commit
to
come
in
a
day
off
or
staying
later
coming
in
our
early
and
you're,
not
over
time
we're
working
right.
Now,
it's
a
tough
sell.
It's
not
it's
not
critical
to
our
daily
function,
even
though
it's
very
important.
Obviously,
the
community
relations
so.
G
No,
the
clarification
helps
at
least
give
an
understanding
of
what
the
concern
is.
If
I'm
understanding
it
right,
it's
hard
to
get
to
the
I
mean
I
if
I'm
understanding
right
it's
hard
to
get
to
the
communication.
The
relations
part,
obviously
because
you
got
to
tell
people
to
come
in
when
they're,
not
working
and
my
I
guess
my
thing
is
more
along
the
lines
of
definitely
a
reasonable
concern.
G
G
Obviously
we
can
talk
more
offline
or
I
can
talk
to
Marie
offline,
but
I
think
there
are
other
ways
that
might
not
be
as
as
taxing
but
still
being
able
to
get
stuff
done,
because
I
really
don't
want
Staffing
to
be
the
reason
why
we're
not
doing
a
better
job
in
community
relations
or
consistent,
we're
you
know
all
right,
but
we're
you
know
being
consistent.
B
Yeah
happy
to
have
those
conversations
with
you
so
yeah,
please
good
job.
A
C
Okay,
thank
you
report
from
staff
looking
to
report
to
the
group.
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
to
Old
business
I'm
going
to
say
that
nobody
wants
to
talk
about
our
reading
project,
my
grandmother's
hands,
because
I've
already
heard
from
a
couple
of
you,
so
we're
gonna
put
it
on
next
one
unless
somebody
has
something
that
they
really
want
to
share
this
month,.
H
Sure
in
the
beginning,
there's
a
section
describing
trauma
and
what
trauma
does
to
an
individual
and
as
I
was
reading
these
just
two
pages
I've
seen
my
grandson
over
and
over
and
over
again
he
had
some
severe
trauma
early
in
his
life,
behaviors
that
this
guy
is
describing
so
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
reading
the
book
and
I
went.
You
know
he
does
know
what
he's
talking
just
wanted
to
say
that
his
description
was
was
true.
H
A
C
Okay,
we'll
put
it
on
for
next
month
and
maybe
we'll
have
a
little
bit
more
discussion
on
it.
The
policy
manual
stuff
I
failed
on
that.
When
I
was
supposed
to
contact,
you
I
didn't
do
it
I'm
bad
I
got
some
thoughts,
I'm
going
to
draft
up
something
and
try
to
get
it
circulated
to
you
in
the
next
week,
or
so
don't
hold
me
to
that
date.
C
Okay
and
the
electronic
filing
thing
Merrell
is
not
here
so
that
will
go
on
next
month
and
privilege
of
the
floor
will
go
on
for
next
month
and
we
have
the
policy
encampment.
C
E
Well,
everybody
seems
to
know
what
they're
going
to
say:
I
I,
don't
think
we
can
make
any
kind
of
a
formal
response
to
this,
because
this
isn't
formal
itself,
yeah
sure
and
the
discussion
we
had
here.
45
minutes
of
it
or
more
I,
think
we've
covered
a
lot
of
territory
and
sort
of
reinforced
everybody's
Mutual
concerns
to
the
same
areas
that
George
brought.
C
E
H
I
have
one
more
thing
to
say
about
that:
Amber
Amber
is
that's
nothing.
There
should
be
areas
where
camping
is
allowed
in
areas
where
camping
is
not
a
lot.
There's
no
in
between
that's
a
good
point.
I
know
it's
a
Continuum
I
know
that
you
want
to
pick
a
slap
and
say
this
is
going
to
be
red.
It's
going
to
be
fenced
once
we
get
it
cleared,
it's
that
does
make
it
more
simple
and
that
that's
an
excellent
idea.
It's
just
and
it
makes
the
whole
report
Kind
Of
Man
became
it
just.
H
B
Respectfully,
I
think
that
you
all
have
had
some
thought
conversation
and
that
someone
who
is
on
meetings
you
know
I,
think
that
if
you
I
think
everyone
here
has
some
failed
input
and
there's
a
lot
of
Georgia
right
over
this,
but
competing
and
Consulting
interests.
They're
going
to
this
policy
and
I
think
that
if
you
want
your
opinions
really
heard,
you
might
better
send
some
bullet
points,
because
if
you
say
you
can
watch
our
thing,
the
reality
is
I,
don't
know
how
maybe
ought
to
watch
it,
but
I.
B
Don't
think
that
you
know
you're
I,
think
that
you
have
a
great
point.
You
just
made
and
I
I
happen
to
agree
with
you.
You
know
so
there's,
even
if
you
just
send
them
five
or
six
bullet
points.
I
think
it'll
happen
follow
our
45-minute
discussion,
because
the
reality
is
like
there's
so
many
committees
in
the
city
and
a
lot
of
people
have
sit
on
multiple.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
us
45
minutes.
People
are
going
to
watch
because.
J
B
J
C
J
H
H
I
mean
you're
right.
It's
it's!
Not
it's
going
to
take
time.
I
also,
really
think
that
the
further
away
the
police
department
can
say
from
it
the
better
off.
They
are
because
I
don't
think
that
the
citizens
of
this
town,
through
their
elected
representatives,
don't
want
the
police
running
these
people
off.
H
H
D
C
H
C
They're,
just
like
anybody
else,
you
know
I
have
a
right
to
be
protected.
You
know
at
my
house
they
have
a
right
to
be
protected
there.
So
you
know
categorically
saying
if
the
police,
all
they
do
is
enforcement
is
not
what
I
am
even
suggesting.
What
I'm
suggesting
is
the
community
kind
of
policing
with
those
folks
as
well?
That's
really
you've
got
to
have
relationships,
I
mean
that's
what
everybody
has
been
talking
about
when
it's
reimagining
and
it
has
to
happen
with
that
population
as
well.