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C
C
D
Oh
definitely
there's
still
a
council
yeah
my
people's
best
efforts.
D
So
I
guess
obviously,
hopefully
you're
all
aware
recent
discussions
over
the
past
many
months.
We
talked
about
this
previously
in
terms
of
reimagining
public
safety
in
response
to
executive
order.
203,
there
was
a
series
of
recommendations,
several
lengthy
discussions.
Throughout
the
month
of
march,
several
meetings
and
council
finally
adopted
a
resolution
which
hopefully
you're
familiar
with
submitting
a
plan
in
accordance
with
executive
order
to
basically
outlining
reimagining
public
safety
for
ithaca.
D
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
the
particular
recommendations
there,
and
obviously
one
of
the
large
ones
was
the
recommendation
to
look
at
forming
a
department
of
public
safety
that
would
include
police
department,
armed
officers,
but
also
community
workers
and
other
unarmed
enforcement
and
community
officers.
D
So
the
actual
form
and
kind
of
make
up
of
that
department
is
still
to
be
determined
and
so
there's
a
task
force,
that's
being
formed.
D
That
would
include
ipd
staff
city
staff,
interested
city
residents
and
others
to
really
basically
work
out
more
of
the
details
of
that
and
present
a
series
of
more
detailed
recommendations
to
council
by
september
1st
of
this
year.
2021.
D
D
Given
the
constraints,
I
think
everyone
involved
did
a
really
good
job.
We
came
up,
I
think,
in
the
end,
with
a
resolution
that
does
allow
us
to
move
forward
on
this,
and
I
think,
as
I
said,
the
final
kind
of
format
of
this
department
is
still
to
be
determined,
but
I
think
there
was
a
general
recognition
that
this
is
really
just
the
first
step
in
a
a
mini
year
process
in
terms
of
reimagining,
but
also
re-implementing
public
safety
for
the
community.
D
There
were
many
different
perspectives
considered.
We
got
a
lot
of
email
messages
and
input
from
the
public,
and
I
I
won't
speak
for
my
council
colleagues,
but
I
think
the
discussions
that
I
was
involved
with,
whether
it
was
meeting
with
the
pba
or
meeting
with
individual
officers,
but
also
with
members
of
the
community,
was
really.
D
Firstly,
it
was
really
informative,
but
it
was
also
a
recognition
that
we
we
need
to
do
more
of
that
in
the
future.
I
think,
in
terms
of
you
know,
looking
at
public
safety
and
and
whatever
the
form
of
this
new
department
takes,
I
think
it
will
involve
a
lot
more
active
public
engagement
on
a
regular
basis,
so
I'm
hoping
that
task
force
will
get
finalized
in
the
near
future.
D
I
know
I
think
the
mayor
is
working
on
the
membership
of
that
to
get
started
in
the
near
future
and
obviously
we
look
forward
to
their
recommendations
and
reports
later
this
year,
so
I
think
perhaps
I'll
leave
it
there
and
if
people
have
questions
or
comments,
I'm
happy
to
try
and
address
those.
So
thank
you.
D
I
I
don't
know
the
makeup.
It
says
other
city
staff
order
persons,
ithaca
city
residents-
I
I
don't
see
why
a
member
of
the-
and
I
don't
know
whether
anybody's
been
contacted
on
the
community
police
board.
I
I
don't
know
where,
where
the
current
makeup
of
that
task
force
is
so,
but
it's
it's
appropriate
that
seeing
as
there's
recommendations
that
impact
the
community
police
board
that
there
might
be
representation
from
one
or
more
members
of
the
board.
C
D
Well,
I
would
just
send
a
message
to
the
mayor
saying
the
boards
discuss
this
and
would
like
to
be
considered
for
or
recommend
that
we
be
the
board,
be
represented
on
the
task
force.
C
E
Yeah,
I
think
my
concern
is
the
time
frame
september,
1st
being
a
particular
deadline,
so
the
sooner
the
better
and
the
fact
that
they're
in
a
recruitment
phase
at
this
point
still,
you
know
I
know
it
may
not
be
too
early.
It
may
be
too
early
to
set
the
alarms,
but
you
know
again,
this
is
just
not
something
I
would
be
too
slow
to
get
going.
B
C
B
I'd
like
to
know,
graham
how
many
members
of
common
council
have
actually
done
a
ride
along
with
the
police
department,
because
I
I
can't
imagine
they've
done
any
ride-alongs
and
appear
to
have
a
lack
of
understanding
as
to
what
they
actually
do
and
further.
I
would
recommend
that
anybody
who
is
on
this
group
that's
supposed
to
be
re-imaging
the
police
department
that
they
also
take
a
ride
along.
I
mean
you
learn
a
lot.
I
mean
you're
seven
hours
in
the
car
with
a
police
officer
taking
calls
and
you
get
your
eyes
wide
open.
D
D
Well,
I
believe
I
I
don't
have
records
of
of
the
ride-alongs,
maybe
the
department
has,
but
certainly
I
know
I
did
a
ride
along
several
years
ago,
around
college
town.
I
certainly
appreciate
the
perspective
that
you
get
from
those
ride
longs.
I
know
several
members
of
the
community
police
board
have
also
been
on
wedlongs
and
I
believe-
and
I
know
some
members
of
council
have
been
on
ride-alongs
just
from
the
comments
they've
made
in
public
meetings,
but
they
don't
know
the
exact
number
or
when
those
ride-alongs
took
place.
C
D
Why
don't
you
copy
me
rick
on
the
message
that
you
send
to
the
mayor?
Okay,.
C
D
I
think
so
that
was
took
a
lot
of
people's
time.
Certainly
I
appreciate
you
know,
as
I
said,
a
lot
of
council
members,
including
myself,
appreciate
their
input
and
meetings
with
the
pba,
both
as
a
body
but
also
with
individual
officers,
and
I
think
to
your
point.
Shirley
people
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
understanding
the
current
situation
and
recognize
the
challenges
that
policing
in
general
faces,
but
certainly
ipd
in
terms
of
the
the
constraints
were
under.
D
So
I
think,
as
I
said,
it
was
a
very
informative
process
and
I
I
think
there
is
a
much
better
appreciation
I
don't
know
about
just
on
council,
but
I
think
in
general
of
the
challenges
of
policing-
and
I
think,
as
I
said,
we
came
up
with,
I
hope,
a
helpful
way
to
move
forward
on
that
to
address
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
face.
E
Great,
graham,
I
it's
good
to
see
about
some
of
the
plans,
for
I
guess
for
future
plans
with
regards
to
like
things
that
are
more,
I
guess
in
the
future
or
immediate.
Do
you
know
what
of
or
john
you
could
probably
answer
this
too?
What
are
the
plans
for
the
search
for
the
new
chief
of
police?
E
You
know
what
what
stages
of
that
has
it
started?
Have
we
marketed?
Have
we
you
know
what
does
that
look
like,
because
right
now
you
know
john.
I
see
you
hanging
in
there
holding
on
the
mental.
I
appreciate
it,
but
you
know
just
knowing
some
sort
of
these
type
of
things
can't
be
forgotten
or
lost
within
all
of
this
that's
going
on,
and
so
my
concern
is
that
it's
not
I
don't
want
it
necessarily
to
be
forgotten,
or
not
necessarily.
E
I've
been
in
a
few
other
searches
being
able
to
fully
expand
and
with
as
much
time
as
possible
is
always
helpful.
So
yeah,
I
don't
know.
If
do
you
have
any
word
on
that?
What's
going
on.
D
Well,
I
can
answer-
perhaps
john
also
will
provide
him
put,
but
the
mayor
is
forming
a
search
committee.
I
assume
he's
going
to
reach
out
to
the
community
police
board.
Typically,
there
are
members
from
the
board
on
that
search
committee.
D
I've
been
asked
to
serve
on
that
along
with
two
members
of
common
council
as
well,
so
it
certainly
hasn't
been
forgotten
richard,
in
fact.
Obviously,
that's
a
a
priority.
We
we
need
to
post
that
position.
John
is
obviously
in
the
position
of
acting
chief
right
now,
but
yeah
and
there's
an
expectation
that,
as
the
reimagining
process
goes
on,
we
will
definitely
need
a
police
chief
to
obviously
run
the
existing
department
and
start
to
plan
for
the
future
transition.
F
Sure,
as
far
as
the
official
posting
of
the
chief's
position,
I
don't
think
that's
happened
yet,
but
I
know
that
there
have
been
discussions
that
there
will
be
a
nationwide
search,
and
I
understand
they
intend
to
still
fill
the
chief's
position.
So
beyond
that,
I
don't
have
any
additional
information
right
now.
F
I
know
that
the
city
did
not
participate
in
the
chief's
exam
that
the
state
provides
which
took
place
in
march,
and
I
think
that
was
because
at
the
time
the
city
needed
to
opt
in
chief
mayor
hadn't
provided
his
notice.
Yet
so
the
exam's
only
offered
once
a
year
so
we'll
be
offered
again
next
march.
So
I
think
that
there
are
there's
definitely
multiple
ways.
F
The
city
can
go
about
filling
it,
but
if
they
were
gonna,
you
know
establish
a
list
from
the
test
that
would
have
to
be
march
next
year
on
that,
graham,
probably
has
more
specific
information.
I
know
that
they're
working
on
it,
but
I
don't
think
it's
been
officially
announced.
F
No
okay,
so
we
kind
of
mentioned
graham
mentioned,
I'm
in
the
acting
role
that
that
took
effect
april
1st
about
some
of
you,
because
we're
working
on
trying
to
come
up
with
a
policy
for
responding
to
crowd
large
crowds
and
protests
and
so
forth.
But
for
the
group
I
took
over
as
acting
chief
april
first,
there
has
not
been
any
task
force.
F
You
know
from
the
reimagining.
That's
actually
started
yet
that
I'm
aware
of
I
spoke
with
the
mayor
this
morning
and
I
believe
that
there
may
have
been
a
facilitator
selected,
but
that
person
has
not
started
yet.
But
but
I
will
be
on
the
on
the
task
force
as
well.
As
I
would
imagine,
I
would
think
cbb
should
have
a
seat
somewhere
on
the
task
force
as
well,
but
so
that
hasn't
started.
But
in
the
meantime
proactively
we
are
trying
to
do
as
much
as
we
can.
F
To
show
that
we
are,
you
know,
going
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible
and
try
to
embrace
some
of
these
requested
changes.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
recently
done,
I
think
it
went,
live
within
the
last
couple
days.
We
posted
all
almost
all
of
our
general
orders
and
policies
on
our
website
for
the
public
melody
helped
with
that.
There
are
a
few
that
are
not
there
and
it's.
It's
clearly
listed
right
on
the
website,
which
ones
are
not
there
or
which
ones
have
been
redacted.
F
So
it's
it's
a
completely
transparent
process,
but
that
should
help
any
people
in
the
public
that
want
to
know.
You
know,
for
example,
what
is
our
use
of
force
policy?
Look
like
or
you
know
any
other
policy
instead
of
having
to
file
a
foil
request
and
wait
on
the
response,
and
then
you
know
get
it
that
way.
Now
they
can
just
go
right
to
the
website,
click,
the
hyperlink
print
it
read
it
do
whatever
they
want
to
do.
So.
F
We've
been
working
on
that
for
a
couple
months
that
just
went
online
this
past
week.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
did
another
thing
we'll
be
posting
all
of
our
department:
training,
like
a
summary
of
all
of
our
departmental
training
quarterly
on
the
website.
So
I
haven't
worked
out
with
melody
craig,
quite
where
that's
going
to
go
or
how
we're
going
to
get
that
on
there,
but
we're
going
to
start
doing
that.
F
I
also
hope
to
work
with
hr
and
establishing
sort
of
like
a
working
group
that
would
involve
you
know
at
least
a
member
from
cpb
at
least
a
member
from
council,
several
members
from
the
community
and
our
training
coordinator
and
like
myself,
that
we
could
meet
every
six
months
and
just
kind
of
discuss
the
training,
that's
planned
for
the
the
department,
and
you
know,
take
feedback
from
the
board,
discuss
what
we're
doing.
Why
we're
doing
it
and
if
there's
any
way
we
can
change
or
make
it
better.
F
You
know
just
be
a
way
to
like
bring
the
community
and
have
more
open
dialogue.
I
know
that
throughout
the
reimagining
process,
that
was
something
that
seemed
to
be
a
topic
or
a
theme
that
reoccurred
several
different
places
that
the
public
you
know
wasn't
aware
of
the
train
that
we're
doing
so.
I
think
you
know
an
effort
to
try
to
make
that
more
readily
accessible
to
people.
That's
kind
of
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
do
very
soon
here.
F
F
You
know,
tactics
that
people,
you
know,
maybe
like
television,
you
know
smashing
doors
in
and
you
know
kind
of
violence
of
action,
so
we
are
gonna.
Have
it
painted
white
and
that's
gonna
start
where
we've
just
settled
on
a
contract,
so
we'll
be
sending
it
off
either
friday
or
first
thing
next
monday
and
it'll
be
painted
white
and
the
thought
process
behind
that
is.
You
know:
we've
heard
that
people
are
offended
by
this
and
we
don't
want
to
continue
to
drive
the
vehicle
around.
F
You
know
in
the
in
the
current
status
that
it
is
and
continue
to
send
the
message
that
we
didn't
hear.
You
know
what
the
public
was
asking
for,
so
it'll
be
painted
white
and
then
we'll
establish
a
working
group,
maybe
of
some
high
school
students
or
some
people
in
the
community
that
want
to
help
us
design
the
graphics
for
it.
F
So
we'll
have
some
community
involvement
in
that
aspect
of
it
and
as
far
as
personnel
complaints,
we
had
one
external
complaint
come
in,
but
it's
it's
very
vague
at
this
point,
so
I
I
can't
even
really
tell
you
what
the
complaint
is:
there's
been
an
email
exchange
and
we
are
trying
to
work
on
narrowing
down
what
the
complaint
is
and
I've
also
sent
them,
sent
this
person
the
complaint
form
and
also
advise
it.
You
know
they're
welcome
to
send
the
complaint
to
cpb
as
well.
F
They
want
to
have
a
second
look
at
it
or
have
someone
else
get
involved
in
it.
So
I
can
provide
the
name
and
a
little
bit
more
detail
during
executive
session
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much
all
I
have
right
now.
A
Us
the
only
thing
I
have
to
share
with
the
group
is
that
I
have
a
impressive
backlog
of
minutes
that
I'm
going
to
be
starting
to
disperse,
and
my
plan
is
to
kind
of
send
them
as
I
complete
them,
so
that
I
don't
bombard
anyone
with
a
pile
of
minutes
to
approve,
and
then
we
can
vote
on
them
at
the
next
minute,
hopefully
get
all
caught
up
with
that
stuff.
So
I
apologize
for
the
delay
on
that.
A
C
Thanks
and
then
next
business
we
have
a
working
group
of
mike
and
richard
and
shari
who've
been
working
with
the
city
attorney
and
police
department
on.
C
Protocols
for
what
is
and
what
is
not
allowed
at
demonstrations
in
the
city
and
how
those
will
be
handled
in
the
future.
C
Once
again,
it
was
our
intention
that
whatever
those
protocols
are,
they
be
publicly
and
repeatedly
announced
by
elected
officials,
but
I'm
going
to
turn
that
over
to
mike
and
he
can
let
you
know
we
had
one
meeting
and
we'll
let
mike
go
with
that.
Oh.
B
G
Hi
everyone
hi,
so
yes,
we
we
met
as
a
larger
group
than
I
thought,
and
it
was
great
to
see
as
many
people
participating
last
week
as
as
we
had
richard
and
chari
were
in
attendance
and
I'll
have
them
fill
in
any
blanks
that
I
leave
for
them.
But
in
a
nutshell,
what
we
discussed
and
what
we
really
dove
into
were
the
city
attorney's
thoughts
and
draft
of
what.
G
What
they
it
looks
like
some
of
those
general
orders
that
that
are
up
on
the
website,
but
it's
basically
a
structure
so
that
that
both
law
enforcement
and
and
citizens
can
take
a
look
to
see
what
will
definitely
get
you
arrested
and
what
may
get
you
arrested
depending
on
what
what's
happening
at
the
time
and
we've
had
a
really
good.
G
We
had
a
really
good
look
at
them
for
the
past
week
that
it's
a
robust
document
that
that
really
specifies
not
not
what
ithaca
is
saying
we're
going
to
allow
police
officers
to
do,
but
basically
spelling
out
in
I'm
not
even
gonna,
say
plain
language.
It's
not
even
it's
not
plain
language.
G
It's
it's
more
legalese
what
what
these
thresholds
are,
and
it's
a
pretty
exhaustive
list
from
from
the
there
are
two
basic
thresholds,
and
one
is
the
one
that
an
immediate
arrest
can
be
made,
and
in
these
cases
it
would
be
things
like
discharging
a
firearm
or
brandishing
a
weapon
or
threatening
to
discharge
a
firearm
and-
and
those
would
be
the
the
much
more
serious,
very
clearly
criminal
acts
that
there
would
be
no,
not
necessarily
a
warning
to
given
to
protesters
and
the
other
level
would
be
the
the
grayer
areas
and
and
more
nuanced.
G
G
The
first
one
which
is
again
is
in
in
draft
form
at
this
point,
nothing's
been
decided
on,
but
but
congregating
on,
marching
on
sitting
on
occupying
blocking
or
barricading
public
streets,
driveways,
sidewalks
parks
or
walkways
in
a
manner
causing
inconvenience,
but
not
a
threat
to
public
health
or
safety,
and
not
restricting
the
movement
of
persons
or
vehicles
desiring
to
leave
the
area
so
that
that's
an
example
of
that
second
threshold
that
is
being
proposed.
G
That
would
be
after
one
or
more
warnings
to
the
the
person
or
people
doing
that
act,
and
it
would
be
subject
to
the
approval
of
the
chief
of
police,
the
deputy
or
incident
commander
and
and
again
that
threshold
is
that
gray
area
that
we're
trying
to
make
much
more
explicit
to
to
people
who
want
to
protest
in
in
ithaca
in
ithaca
public
spaces.
G
G
I
have
some
comments
on
it,
but
the
this
seems
like
a
really
good
first
step
into
what
we
had
been
discussing
in
in
previous
meetings
as
a
really
important
part
of
what
we
do
in
ithaca
to
help
the
the
law
enforcement
to
know
what
lines
there
are,
as
well
as
protesters
who
were
who
are
exercising
their
free
speech
rights.
G
So
what
I
hope
after
tomorrow
is
is
really
to
try
to
solidify
this
language
but,
more
importantly,
try
to
give
the
the
idea
for
the
next
step,
which,
in
my
mind,
is
a
plain
language.
Summary
some
something
that
could
be
put
up
on
the
website
made
into
posters
given
out
as
brochures
that
that
type
of
thing,
which
would
probably
in
my
perfect
world,
would
be
designed
by
a
graphic
designer
so
that
it
is
appealing
and
accessible
to
as
many
people
as
are
interested
in
this.
G
So
I
I
just
threw
out
an
idea
being
like
a
a
green
zone,
a
yellow
zone
and
a
red
zone
that
the
the
green
zone
and
my
preference
is
to
keep
the
green
zone
way
up
front,
saying
here's,
here's
what's
free
speech
is
and
and
here's
what
we
support
fully
the
the
yellow
zone
is
you're
getting
into
some
some
areas
that
may
involve
some
criminal
activity
that
that
could
be
charged
and
the
red
zone
is
don't
even
go
there.
G
This
is
this
is
not
not
even
a
question
about
that,
so
that
that
was
just
my
ideas
of
that
and
and
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
The
everyone
in
that
group
seemed
really
invested
in
and
an
understanding
of
the
the
goal.
So
richard
and
sherry
do
you
have
anything
else
to
add
and
john
was
there
as
well
and
so
was
rick,
so
anyone
can
jump
in.
C
Mike,
if
you
would
I'm
not,
I
guess
I
because
I
attended
as
an
observer,
I'm
not
getting
the
materials.
Could
you
copy
me
the
materials
and
end
the
zoom
link
for.
E
I
think
mike's
ideas
on
that
yeah.
This
is
this
to
me-
is
very
much
a
draft.
E
This,
I
think,
is
a
start
to
a
conversation
and
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
a
brief
conversation
and
so,
but
we're
working
towards
it
and
hopefully
getting
somewhere
in
terms
of
I
agree
with
with
with
michael
in
terms
of
getting
into
a
plain
language,
but
also
there
are
some
additional
pieces
to
add
and
things
of
that
nature
before
we
even
get
to
that
point.
So
it's
going
to
take
some
time
sure
I
don't
know
if
you
want,
if
you
have
it
more
to
add.
H
Well,
I
just
want
to
say
that
it
was.
The
document
is
very
detailed
and
I
think
making
it
plain
language
will
be
easy
and
I,
like
the
brochure
idea,
but
I
also
like
the
green
yellow
red.
So
you
know
because
when
I
protested
last
week
at
the
drone
base,
you
know
you
you
stand
here.
If
you
don't
want
to
get
arrested,
if
you
don't
mind
getting
arrested,
you
can
stand
here,
but
and
usually
protesters
understand
that
there
are
some
that
are
going
to
push
it.
H
C
And
we
did
learn
that,
should
you
be
bothered
by
a
drone
deputy
chief
monticello
pointed
out
to
us
that
you
were
not
allowed
to
swat
a
drone
with
a
broom.
So
if
you
ever
thought
about
it,
don't
do
it.
It's
illegal.
The
police
will
not
interfere
because
it's
faa
jurisdiction.
C
C
G
Unless
anyone
has
questions
or
or
would
like
me
to
share
anything
with
that
working
group.
G
I
I
don't
have,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
question
or
more
of
like
just
a
wondering,
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
like
try
to
ensure
accountability
and
like
responsibility
from
the
law
enforcement
side
like
if
we're
giving
this
list
of
do's
and
don'ts
to
protesters
like
if,
if
there's
a
slip
up
from
the
law
enforcement
side?
How
do
we
you
know
yeah,
I
guess:
how
do
we
like
secure
reliability
in
that.
E
E
I
just
think
that
that
your
your
point
that
you're
making
exactly
is
part
of
that
conversation
that
we're
talking
about
it's
just
that
that
first
meeting
you'd
be
surprised.
This
was
a
robust
document
that
the
time
for
the
first
meeting
definitely
did
not
allow
for
even
just
to
get
past
part
of
part
one.
If
you
know
what
I
mean,
and
so
this
is
very
much
in
the
preliminary
stages,
and
I
am
very
much
with
you
in
terms
of
recognizing
that
full
conversation,
that's.
G
Good-
and
I
would
I
would
just
add
that
it's
with,
I
think
that's
our
charge-
is
that
if
there
are
complaints
about
how
how
police
are
are
conducting
themselves-
and
we
have
a
formal
complaint,
we
we
will
then
have
a
document
that
we
can
go
to
and
and
look
at
as
as
part
of
our
work.
F
Department,
yeah,
that's
correct,
we'll
incorporate
into
our
training.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
once
it's
done
we'll
you
know
we'll
have
it
as
either
a
written
directive
or
a
general
order,
and
it
will
we'll
have
to
once
we
conclude
and
we're
all
in
agreement,
then
we'll
roll
out
some
departmental
training
for
both
the
officers
and
supervisors
it'll
be
made
public
and
will
be
part
of
our
annual
end.
F
C
I
Can
I
just
want
to
mention
real
quick
that
I'm
going
to
college
in
august,
so
july
will
be
my
last
month
with
you
all
which
I'm
sad
to
say,
but
I'm
also
excited
for
college.
E
A
I
I
But
yeah
there's
a
there's
a
like
a
space
that
everyone
can
see
things
if
you
want
me
to
put
up
like
just
a
question
or
a
google
form
or
a
video.
I
can
make
that
happen.
C
A
H
C
Did
you
want
to
chief
to
go
further
into
that
complaint,
or
do
you
think
we.
F
E
Yeah
we
can
go
into
executive
session,
real
quick
just
to
get
some
general
idea.
What's
going
on,
I'm
gonna
motion
to
go
to
executive
session.
Well,
second,.