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B
C
B
Hey
I
didn't
hear,
let
me
check
my
email,
real,
quick.
I
didn't
hear
from
fernando
or
tracy
that
they
wouldn't
be
here.
B
A
D
C
Had
a
bear
quorum
and
they
didn't
approve
the
400
e
state
street
thing.
C
B
Yeah
there
was
a
lot
of
trouble
getting
quorums,
as
you
just
noted,
for
a
lot
of
the
meetings.
People
were
not
feeling
comfortable
being
in
person.
A
So
let's
wait
a
couple
more
minutes.
Well,
once
tracy
comes
in
we'll,
go
ahead
and
start.
B
D
A
Okay,
so
we
have
our
minutes.
Excuse
me
from
our
meeting
last
month,
I'll
move
those
if
someone
would
like
to
second.
B
I
did,
I
don't
know
if
you
noticed,
but
I
for
the
resolution
that
was
in
there.
I
I
didn't
have
in
my
notes,
who
moved
and
seconded
it.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
does
or
if
people
could
check
their
notes
and
get
back
to
me.
Otherwise,
we'll
go
without.
A
Okay,
again,
not
not
being,
I
was
gonna,
say
expert,
not
even
not
knowledgeable,
about
robert's
rules.
We
can
go
ahead
and
move
and
pass
the
minutes
right
with
acknowledging
that
that
one
piece
is
missing.
A
A
B
A
Know
I
don't.
I
don't
have
my
notes
with
me
they're
in
a
different
room.
So
all
right,
so
we
have
a
resolution
move
to
the
second
bid
to
accept
minutes
from
our
august
meeting
acknowledging
that
we'll
have
to
modify
them.
A
B
I
don't
believe
you
need
to.
I
can
check
on
that
when
I've
reviewed
previous
years
worth
of
minutes.
Sometimes
there
is
something
like
that
missing,
but
I
will
I
will
check
on
that
carl.
A
A
I
see
monica's
joined
us,
we're
waiting
for
deb
dietrich
yeah
good
morning.
Do
we
okay.
F
Morning,
yes,
I'm
at
a
lodge
in
the
adirondacks,
I
should
sit
so
you
can
see
the
bear
in
back
of
me.
F
Yeah-
and
I
realize
I
didn't
give
you
kelly's
number
to
let
her
in
it's
kelly,
s-u-a-b-e.
C
B
A
Okay,
while
we're
waiting
for
for
deb
to
log
in,
we
should
be
in
about
another
three
minutes.
Why
don't
we
do
item
c
on
our
agenda?
The
the
resolution
regarding
the
home
income
policy.
B
E
A
The
home
identification
of
definition
of
income
policies
on
page
16
of
the
agenda.
A
B
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
I
realized
as
soon
as
another
member
mentioned,
something
that
I
should
have
included
the
original.
The
original
really
only
included
the
top
two
pieces
of
you
know.
B
There's
I
think
four
bullet
points
now
and
there
were
only
two,
the
top
two
before
just
how
rent
was
calculated
for
tibra
and
then
income
limits
for
everything
else,
and
the
reason
that
this
came
up
is
because
kelly
charity
security
deposits
program
reached
out
to
me
saying
that
someone
had
applied
to
live
at
I'm
not
mistaken,
although
it
well,
I
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me.
B
I
think
I
know
which
housing
development
is,
but
I
won't
say
since
we're
recording
and
the
applicant
was
told
that
they
were
over
income,
even
though
their
current
income
clearly
was
below
the
threshold,
and
when
asked
about
it,
the
property
manager
said
that
their
potential
income
would
put
them
over.
So
the
question
was
well
what
how?
Why
is
potential
income
being?
B
Why
is
yes?
Why
is
potential
income
being
considered,
and
I
think
the
landlord
had
confusion
about?
First
of
all,
potential
income
is
not
considered.
B
It's
like
the
only
way
that
anticipated
income
is
included
is
exactly
how
it's
now
specified
in
the
income
definition,
which
is
like
you
know,
there's
a
cost
of
living
increase
that
you're
scheduled
at
your
work,
or
you
know
for
sure
that
you'll
be
getting
an
increase
or
you
know
for
sure
that
your
income
will
be
decreasing
through
some
documented
scheduled
way.
B
So
just
having
worked
previously
at
a
certain
institution
or
employer,
and
I
think
the
situation
was,
this
person
had
been
furloughed
during
the
pandemic
and
I
think
what
the
property
manager
was
kind
of.
Assuming
is
that
that
person
would
go
back
to
work
there,
but
that
person
had
no
offer.
B
There
was
no
anything
related
to
indicate
that
that
person
would
be
returning,
and
so
that's
why
we
decided
to
make
it
clearer,
and
there
is
the
citation
of
the
regulation
there's
quite
a
lot
of
detail
in
the
regulation,
also
that
we
can
refer
to
that.
We
decided
not,
to
put
you
know
the
pages
and
pages
in
in
this
definition.
We
really
just
wanted
to
specify
the
things
that
people
had
had
questions
about
in
the
past.
B
So
there's
that
also,
I
will
say
that
we
reached
out
to
some
of
our
affordable
housing
partners
to
see
how
they
calculate
rent,
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
that
this
definition
is
consistent
with
how
they
do
that
and
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
from
one
inhs
about
their
rent
calculation.
We've
reached
out
a
couple
different
times
now,
but
I
think
perhaps
that
the
you
know
perhaps
a
person
that
is
in
charge
of
the
department
that
calculates
rent
it
might
be
away
on
vacation.
B
She
hasn't
responded,
but
we've
heard
from
their
loan
department
and
they
confirmed
that.
That
is
how
they
calculate
home
ownership
as
specified
the
definition.
Yes,
I'm.
C
C
A
B
Well,
I
can,
I
can
look
more
into
it.
I
do
want
to.
I
do
want
to
make
clear
that
the
furloughing
situation
that
I'm
talking
about
it
was
very
clear
that
there
was
probably
very
little
chance
that
that
person
would
be
going
back
to
work
this,
but
I
can,
if
you
want,
we
can
inter
discuss
it
internally
as
a
staff,
since
we
are
in
this
very
unusual
time
where.
C
A
So
kind
of
related
to
what
teresa
is
asking
are
the
the
are
the
tenants
incomes
reviewed
at
the
at
an
annual
basis,
or
is
it
tied
to
when
the
lease
is
renewed?
How
does
that
work.
B
My
understanding
is,
I
mean,
certainly
section
8
reviews
every
year
and
people
have
to
re-certify
every
year,
but
in
other
affordable
housing
situations.
I'm
assuming
it's
tied
to
the
lease
and
leases
are
generally
one
year,
but
that's
an
assumption
and
I
can.
I
would
be
happy
to
research.
A
Well,
you
know
I
I
also
agree
with
teresa
when
she
said
that
you
know
I
think,
speaking
for
myself,
this
is
well
written.
I
think
it's
clear.
I
it's
certainly
possible
that
a
specific
scenario
will
come
up
again
where
there's
questions,
but
just
in
terms
of
the
way
this
this
definition,
you
know,
we've
clarified
it.
I
think
it's
fine.
If
someone
would
like
to
move
this
resolution.
A
All
right,
so
I
see
that
deb
dietrich
is
here,
so
we
will
go
back
and
welcome
deb
good
morning.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
G
Good
morning,
I'm
sorry
I
was
a
little
late.
I
was
having
technical
difficulties
anyway,
thanks
for
inviting
me-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all-
for
the
investment
you
made
into
oars
laundry
and
internet
programs
through
the
covid
pandemic,
the
beginning
of
it
at
least.
G
It
really
made
a
huge
difference
to
our
clients
and
we
initiated
the
laundry
both
projects,
but
particularly
the
laundry
project
in
the
interests
of
public
health
trying
to
minimize
covid
within
the
homeless
encampments,
and
we
managed
to
do
that.
There
was
only
one
to
date,
there's
only
been
one
positive,
covid
out
of
the
encampments
and
that
person
would
quickly
isolated
in
a
hotel,
a
motel.
So
it
looks
like
the
public
health
initiatives
that
oer
in
partnership
with
a
lot
of
other
not-for-profits.
G
I
really
want
to
stress
that
this
was
a
wonderful
project
in
the
sense
that
there
were
so
many
not-for-profits
that
came
together
organically,
to
figure
out
what
the
needs
were
and
to
coordinate
our
work
in
the
encampments
and
some
of
the
housing
projects
through
the
pandemic.
They
include
st
john's.
G
Second,
wind
reach
medical
staff:
I'm
gonna
forget
someone.
Whenever
you
start
to
list
people,
you
forget
someone,
but
it
was
a
wonderful
community
effort
and
we
discovered
at
the
same
time
there
was
a
hepatitis,
a
outbreak
in
the
encampments,
and
we
helped
to
eliminate
the
hepatitis
a
as
well
through
vaccinations
and
treatment.
G
That
was
reach
really.
So
thanks
again,
I
think
our
laundry
needs
going
forward,
we're
continuing
it.
We
have
enough
money
from
a
couple
different
sources
to
go
for
another
month
or
two
we'll
reevaluate
at
that
point
about
where
we
are
with
the
delta
variant
and
figure
out.
If
we
need
to
continue
it,
but
it
is
an
unmet
need
it's
kind
of
tangential
to
oar
central
mission,
but
it
was.
G
It
was
we're
just
we
were
only
closed
for
about
a
month
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
were
an
access
point
for
the
homeless
throughout
the
pandemic,
and
we
kind
of
filled
that
role,
because
it
was
a
community
need,
but
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
begin
to
step
back
from
the
laundry
project
over
the
next
couple
months
and
but
I'll
keep
you
posted.
G
It
is
an
unmet
need
in
our
community,
though
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
is
whether
we
shouldn't
try
to
create
a
homeless,
a
homeless
shelter,
a
kind
of
a
gathering
place
over
in
one
of
the
malls,
that's
closer
to
the
homeless,
encampments,
where
there
can
be
lot
laundry
machines,
hot
food,
a
shower
that
kind
of
access,
but
we
haven't
developed
it
any
further.
A
I
do
have
one
regarding
the
cost
for
medical
treatment,
our
folks
in
the
or
are
many
of
the
folks
or
maybe
all
of
them
covered
by
medicaid.
Or
does
this
reach
pick
up
any
cost
for
like
the
hepatitis,
a
treatment,
for
example,.
G
G
Appointments
required
at
dss
to
qualify
for
medicaid
and
getting
the
homeless
engaged
to
to
come
out
to
meetings
is
very
difficult,
so
what's
happened
is
reach,
has
a
couple
different
grants,
including
I
think
they
got
a
sizable
covered,
related
grant
and
so
they've
been
able
to
subsidize
an
awful
lot
of
the
care.
Reach
has
been
an
invaluable
resource
for
this
population
and
they're
really
expanding
other
forms
of
medical
treatment.
The
other
kind
of
frequent
illness
there
is
foot
rot
because
of
the
wet
the
damp
laundry
has
helped
with
that,
too.
G
Of
course,
by
providing
warm
dry
socks
and
it
was
a
wet
summer,
as
we
all
know,
but
reach
was
able
to
prescribe
different
medications
and-
and
they
also
went
with
our
outreach
guy
to
get
clean
and
warm
socks
out
to
people
so
that
there
could
be
some
cleanliness
which
is
critical
to
treating
foot
rot
so
reach,
I
think,
has
done
a
lot
of
subsidizing
of
this
care
through
various
grants.
They've
raised
but
but
they're
a
great
resource
for
us.
C
I
have
agreed
anissa
and
I
have
talked
about
the
desire
need
for
showers
and
laundry
specifically
for
homeless
people,
and
so
we
have
ideas,
but
we
aren't
the
people
who
apply
for
the
funding.
So
how?
C
How
do
you
think
we
would
go
about
developing
like
you're
talking
about
something
in
the
mall
which
to
me
sounds
fabulous?
How
how
what's
out
there
in
your
non-profit
world?
Who
should
we
try
to
cultivate
this
with.
G
C
G
The
mall
I'm
talking
about
by
the
way
is
like
the
home
depot,
where
wings
wings
to
go,
or
whatever
that
was,
was
located
in
that
that
particular
mall.
I
think
that
the
outreach
team,
which
is
has
been
convened
by
liddy
barger
of
the
human
service
coalition
she's,
really
the
point
person
we
now
have.
I
think
chris
teitelbaum
from
st
john's
is-
is
the
chair
right
now,
but
liddy
is
really
the
glue
that
holds
that
team
together
and
we'd.
G
Really,
I
think,
be
delighted
to
hear
ideas
about
this,
because
shower
is
showering,
is
an
ongoing
issue
as
well.
C
G
C
B
Well,
certainly,
this
is
a
situation
where
usually
iuri
itself
doesn't
do
something.
We
did
bring
forward
that
proposal,
that
that
did
not
obtain
a
community
sponsor.
B
So
if
there
is
a
sponsor
in
the
community
that
wants
to
bring
forward
a
proposal
that
usually
works
best-
and
in
this
case
you
know,
as
deboss
said
there,
there
is
the
street
outreach
team
is
meeting
regularly.
B
It
could
be
a
consortium
of
agencies
that
develop
an
idea
and
somebody
within
that
consortium
steps
forward
to
be
the
project
sponsor,
and
I
think
if
there
is
an
idea
of
where
it
could
be
located,
then
that
would
really
help
a
proposal
go
farther,
but
I
think
what
the
difficulty
can
be
is
that
a
lot
of
agencies
see
the
need,
but
perhaps
don't
have
the
capacity
right
to
do
the
staffing.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
deb
yeah.
G
That's
really,
it
is
an
issue
we've
kind
of
pieced
together
staffing
throughout
this
pandemic,
but
if
it's
an
ongoing
project
with
a
permanent
location,
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
another
way
of
doing
that,
we
did
bring
portable
showers
into
the
encampments
early
on
in
the
pandemic
as
well,
their
gravity
feed
showers.
They
were
really
welcomed,
but
it
was
also
they
were
most
used,
obviously
in
the
warm
weather-
and
it's
not
fun-
to
have
a
gravity
shower
in
this
environment
in
january.
So
we
really
have
to
make
plans
going
forward.
A
Dave
related
to
the
I
think,
yeah.
It
was
last
month
where
that
there
was
a
request
to
to
change
some
of
the
funding
from
the
college
initiative,
upstate
program
to
the
laundry
needs
program.
So
could
you
give
us
an
update
on
the
college
initiatives
upstate?
How
that's
going.
G
Yes,
there's
been
some
turnover
there.
Benea
is
still
at
the
helm,
but
suzanne
burnham,
who
did
a
lot
of
the
nuts
and
bolts,
has
moved
on
to
ithaca
college.
Maria
vargas
has
just
started
a
couple
months
ago,
so
there's
there
was
that,
but
also
the
pandemic
has
made.
It
has
reduced
the
enrollment
in
the
college.
Prep
part
of
the
program,
and
so
binay
is
exploring
new
ways
to
do
outreach
and
new
ways
of
getting
people
reconnected.
G
The
digital
divide
throughout
this
pandemic
was
probably
one
of
the
most
marked
disparities
that
I've
seen
is
that
those
who
have
the
ability
to
remotely
communicate
and
those
that
don't
so
that
the
internet
was
incredibly
helpful
to
a
group
of
our
folks,
especially
at
the
beginning,
when
they
were
already
engaged
in
college
courses
and
they
moved
to
remote.
G
G
They
don't
live
within
the
city.
They
they
live
in
the
outlying
communities.
We
had
some
women's
federation
money
that
we
used
to
provide
services
for
those
folks
too,
but
that
ran
out.
So
I
think
that
part
of
the
reason
for
deferring
was
just
that
the
demand
was
still
very
great
for
the
laundry
and
that
we
were
in
a
lull
with
recruiting
for
college
initiative.
Upstate
though
there
are
still,
I
think
there
are
47
students
engaged
in
college
this
upcoming
semester.
G
So
you
know
it's
just
with
it
with
the
change
in
staffing
and
vinay
is
looking
towards
retirement
in
the
next.
Well,
I
think
decade
and
vinay's
older
than
I
am,
but
she's
got
energy
to
burn
so
that
we're
really
kind
of
reconfiguring
and
refiguring
some
of
how
the
program's
delivered
and
how
we
recruit.
A
Is
the
issue
with
the
digital
divide
related
to
lack
of
equipment,
or
is
it
a
lack
of
internet
access.
G
I
think
it's
two
things
one
is
with
the
library
closed.
There
was
really
a
lack
of
individually
owned
equipment.
College
initiative,
upstate
provides
for
their
students
chromebooks.
So
there
is
that's
one
of
the
things
to
grant
money
that
we
provide
for
students
who
are
going
to
school
after
completion
of
the
college.
Prep
class
people
are
gifted
with
the
chromebook,
but
they're
loaned
to
the
chromebook
during
during
the
class
access
becomes
an
issue,
and
I'm
really
delighted
the
county
is
looking
at
expanding
broadband
because
of
some
of
the
locations
where
our
students
live.
G
A
Does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
for
deb
thanks
all
right
and
anissa?
Let
us
know
that
at
our
meeting
last
month
that
you're
exploring
retirement,
so
I
was
wondering-
has
to
search
for
your
replacement
started.
G
Yes,
but
it's
excruciatingly
slow.
The
pandemic
has
made
that
a
little
different
too.
I've
been
talking
about
retirement
to
my
board
of
directors
for
two
years,
and
so
we
did
though,
post
for
the
position
in
in
june,
we've
got.
We
got
a
number
of
applications,
I'd
say
four
or
five
of
which,
in
my
opinion,
look
really
valuable,
very
good.
I
I'm
staying
out
of
that
process.
However,
the
board-
I've
really
told
you
know
they
have
to
take
the
lead.
This
is
someone
they're
going
to
have
to
work
with.
G
I
don't
want
to
have
my
presence
change,
what
what
the
skills
or
gifts
that
someone
knew
might
bring
to
oar,
and
so
I'm
really
trying
to
stay
hands
off.
But
my
board
is
a
group
of
volunteer
attorneys
by
and
large
a
few
community
members
and
they're
very
busy,
so
I've
been
fighting
since
I
got
back
from
a
two-week
vacation.
I've
been
sending
kind
of
daily
emails
saying
you
really
have
to
schedule
interviews
where
we're
gonna
lose
these
these
promising
people.
So
it's
kind
of
a
funny
situation.
G
The
board,
though
I
think,
knows
now.
I
think
they
really
believe
I'm
ready,
I'm
ready
to
retire.
G
I
had
a
stroke
in
march
and
it
was
minor,
but
it
was
kind
of
a
wake-up
call
to
me
that
I've
got
other
things
I
want
to
do
still
in
my
life
and
time
is
running
out
and
so
and
I
love
oar.
I
love
my
work,
but
I
also
think
that
my
energy's
lower
and
that
we
need
to
have
someone
more
youthful,
more
energetic,
lead
the
agency
into
the
next
steps.
G
Having
said
that,
we've
got
a
number
of
projects
that
I'll
be
leaving
someone
with
a
couple
of
new
ones,
one
of
which
is
particularly
exciting,
which
we're
working
on
right.
Now,
it's
a
collaboration
between
inhs
uro,
the
ultimate
re-entry
opportunity
and
oar,
and
it
is
still
in
the
kind
of
planning
stage,
but
it
looks
like
what
we'll
be
doing
is
called
sunflower
houses
and
inhs
has
two
duplexes
side
by
side
that
they've
renovated
on
titus
avenue,
and
that
is
12
bedrooms,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
we're
hoping
to
lease
those
apartments.
G
Those
bedrooms
from
inhs
and
oir
would
manage
the
project.
Uro
would
bring
additional
programming
into
the
homes
through
the
kind
of
healthy
food
for
all
the
transitional
work.
They're
starting
to
do
healthy
transitions,
work
and
inhs
would
own
the
property
so
we're
we
need
subsidies,
we're
going
to
the
county
for
funding.
G
So
I
don't
know
whether
this
will
come
to
fruition
this
budget
year
or
not,
but
I'm
really
hopeful
that
it
will.
It
would
really
save
the
county
money
in
the
long
run,
we're
looking
for
an
investment
of
about
150
000
for
each
of
three
years.
That's
a
pilot
project
to
see
how
it
works
and
it
would
save
money
in
in
two
fundamental
ways.
I
think
that
it
would
reduce
the
recidivism
of
parolees
who
are
returning
to
the
jail
in
large
numbers.
G
Our
population
at
the
jail
is
almost
50
violated,
parolees
and
they're
violated
on
technical
violations,
the
vast
majority
not
a
new
charge,
which
means
that
they
miss
curfew
or
they
were
associating
with
another
parolee.
It
can
be
a
whole
range
of
issues,
but
it's
not
a
new
charge.
G
So
we're
hoping
with
a
program
with
a
fair
amount
of
programming
and
support
that
we
can
reduce
the
number
of
parolees
who
end
up
back
in
the
jail,
the
other
way
it
would
save
the
county
dollars
and
and
human
costs.
Quite
honestly,
is
we
would
have
a
place
to
house
parolees
when
they
come
out
of
the
system
that
isn't
the
shelter
which
can
be
very
the
shelter
can
be
problematic
for
a
pro
for
a
parolee
returning
home.
G
They
have
to
reside
there
for
90
days
before
they're
considered
homeless,
which
is
quite
a
huge
cost
at
106
a
day,
and
it's
not
it's
a
great
resource
in
our
community,
but
it
isn't
necessarily
a
safe
space
for
parolees
who
are
being
held
to
a
pretty
high
standard
of
behavior
that
there
are
drugs.
You
know
people
are
using
and
other
things
at
the
shelter
and
so
we're
hoping
that
having
a
place
for
people
to
come
directly
to
will
help
them
get
started
on
the
right
foot
with
their
transition
home.
G
G
The
very
positive
news
is
that
the
jail
population
is
much
lower,
as
many
of
you
know
than
it
has
been
in
in
since
I've
been
with
oar
and
actually
since
the
80s,
when
I
helped
build
the
new
jail
as
a
member
of
the
legislature.
So
finally,
these
alternatives
to
incarceration
investments,
I
think,
are
really
paying
off
with
with
real
savings
to
the
county,
but,
as
importantly
for
oars,
it's
savings
and
human
cost
so
and
we're
not
alarmed.
I
know
that
the
media
is
talking
about
a
spike
in
crime.
G
If
you
look
at
the
statistics,
in
fact,
it
really
isn't
a
notable
spike
in
in
crime.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
a
spike
in
property
crime,
and
that
happens
during
every
recession,
and
so
it's
not
something
that
I
think
can
be
attributed
to
the
alternatives
to
incarceration,
but
rather
that
we're
going
through
a
hard
economic
time.
G
That's
so
if
you
know
I,
you
know
members
of
my
board
lance
salisbury's,
the
president
of
my
board.
If
you
know
lance,
you
know
urge
him
to
get
to
get
a
new
director,
I'm
I'm
ready
to
move
on
to
some
other
things.
A
G
A
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
monica-
and
I
see
kelly-
has
joined
us.
F
Yeah
good
morning,
kelly
is
the
market
manager
and
I'm
just
helping
the
market
with
the
grant
also
involved
with
the
new
organization
that
we're
starting
called
friends
of
the
farmer's
market,
which
is
a
non-profit
which
is
a
new
venture
for
the
market.
So
that's
exciting
and
we
hope
to
be
doing
more
of
these
kind
of
projects
where
we
start
to
kind
of
use.
F
The
resources
of
the
market
in
a
more
community
supportive
way,
building
capacity,
helping
with
food
security,
helping
people
start
businesses,
so
that's
kind
of
a
transition
that
we're
in
as
we
build
this
organization.
So
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay,
I'm
here?
Okay,
all
right
all
right!
Well,
so
we're
here!
Anissa!
Are
you
gonna
do
any
intro!
You
just
want
me
to
just
launch
right
in.
B
I
can
introduce
so
the
committee
members
are
aware
and
know,
obviously,
that
the
farmers
market
was
funded
with
our
final
round
of
cdbg
cv,
funds
for
market
subsidies,
for
people
who
use
snap
that
was
intended
to
launch
over
the
summer,
but,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
iura
meeting
recently
and
and
you
all
know,
that
the
volume
of
projects
that
we
have
to
in
the
you
know,
both
development
stages
and
monitoring
stages
means
that
you
know
it's
difficult
to
get
all
the
the
contracts
through.
B
So
this
contract
has
not
been
signed
yet
so
the
summer
season
has
been
missed
and
in
during
that
time
the
market
has
been
thinking
about.
B
Like
okay,
you
know
we
let
them
know,
of
course,
that
cdbg
funds
are
still
going
to
be
available
for
them
to
use,
but
they
were
evaluating
if
they
wanted
to
if
there
was
a
better
way
to
deploy
them
since
now
we're
going
into
fall
and
winter,
although,
as
far
as
the
timeline
there's,
the
market
has
through
december
of
2022,
to
use
the
funds
and
then,
of
course
they
could
apply
for
an
extension
if
needed.
E
B
B
E
F
I
think
I
might
jump
into
a
different
space
real
quickly,
there's
some
more
noise
to.
Let
me
jump
outside
here.
I
think
I
could
still
have
react
connection
yep.
B
F
F
Today,
actually
it's
not
quite
quite
as
nice
today,
it's
a
little
more
cloudy,
so
this
is
an
okay
thing
to
do.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
now
still?
Yes,
a
bunch.
E
A
F
Came
into
the
great
room
where
I
was
sitting,
and
so
I'm
up
at
a
camp
in
the
adirondacks
yeah,
so
yeah
we've
been
trying
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
reach
more
people?
Because
snap
is
a
limited
population,
and
so
we
did
have
a
few
ideas,
but
that
seemed
a
little.
I
don't
know.
Anissa
seemed
to
suggest
that
these
are
maybe
not
going
to
fly
with
hud
some
of
the
ideas.
F
One
was
market
bucks,
which
is
something
that
is
very
common
at
a
lot
of
markets
where
it's
kind
of
an
incentive
program
where
you
give
a
dollar
coupon-
and
you
know
that's
to
just
get
people
to
start
the
habit
of
shopping
at
a
farmer's
market.
And
then
the
discount,
obviously,
is
the
the
other
incentive,
and
so
we
kind
of
tossed
that
around
but
felt
like
it
may
not
fly
with
hud.
F
So
we're
back
to
continuing
the
discount
for
snap
visitors
to
the
market,
people
who
use
their
snap
cards
to
shop
and
we
bumped
that
up
to
having
it
be
a
60
discount,
which
is
quite
substantial
as
an
incentive
instead
of
40..
In
some
ways.
F
We
just
didn't
know
that
we
could
spend
the
total
that
we
had
asked
for,
which
was
fourteen
thousand
for
the
snap
discounts,
so
this
will
bump
it
up
and
it
might
spend
the
money
and
we'd
still
hope
reaching
the
same
number
of
people
were
sort
of
targeting
450
people
again,
if
it's
a
snap
population,
if
it's
just
in
the
city,
that's
you
know,
sort
of
a
narrower
participation,
because
we
know
there's
lots
of
load
to
moderate
income.
F
Folks
in
the
city,
who
also
have
food,
our
food
insecure
and
would
love
to
have
some
fresh
market
produce,
but
snap
kind
of
causes
a
you
know.
Some
people
just
choose
not
to
sign
up
for
snap
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
so
so
at
any
rate,
we're
we've
kind
of
jiggered
a
little
bit,
not
a
huge
amount
from
the
original
proposal.
The
goals
are
still.
F
The
same
is
to
offer
fresh
food
and
a
discount
in
order
to
help
people
access
that
food
using
snap
and
then
to
the
the
logistical
issues
with
it
is
now
the
timing
of
course,
which
in
some
ways
works
in
our
favor,
because
we
did
have
pretty
good
success
with
the
winter
market
online
market
that
kelly
organized
last
winter,
and
so
the
starting
this
project
now
in
the
winter
will
give
us
that
boost
you
know
more
and
and
also
because
the
covid
has
not
gone
away.
F
The
delta
variant
is
kind
of
causing
people
to
think
about
online
opportunities
for
shopping
again,
so
we're
going
to
start
the
project
essentially
january
through
march
then
offer
the
online
shopping
option,
along
with
the
discount
continue
april
may,
which
is
outside
at
the
market.
But
what
happened
this
summer
is
that
as
soon
as
farmers
had
customers
at
the
farmers
market,
they
kind
of
were
able
to
sell
most
of
their
products
directly
to
customers
instead
of
using
the
online
options.
F
So
what
we
had
available
via
online
dropped
dramatically
and
more
people
started
shopping
at
markets.
So
we
hope
to
transition
april
may
we'll
still
keep
the
online
going
transition
to
offering
a
continued
discount
at
the
in-person
market,
depending
on
how
much
money
there's
left
after
the
winter
program.
F
So
you
know
we'll
just
have
to
kind
of
adjust
at
that
point,
see
how
the
online
discount
program's
going
and
see
what
we
do
in
the
summer
to
continue
it
in
person.
They
do
already
get
a
40
discount
through
fresh
checks,
which
is
a
state
program,
so
we're
thinking
of
just
adding
another
20
to
that
discount
to
make
up
to
the
60
so
and
the
big
piece
that
we
actually
didn't
emphasize
enough
in
the
original
grant
is
to
make
this
work
is.
F
We
need
to
do
a
lot
of
outreach
and
with
partner
agencies,
and
so
obviously
that
is
a
staff
piece
that
we
need
to
be
doing
throughout
the
winter
and
connecting
and
promoting
the
availability
of
the
program.
F
And
so
you
know
we're
in
anticipating
partnering,
with
the
nomas
laghimas
folks,
with
the
gx
outside
with
catholic
charities,
social
services
and
and
just
being
able
to
get
our
flyers
out
there
getting
out
there
in
person
to
food
pantries
to
talk
about
the
program
and
making
sure
our
partners
know
that
they
can
tell
their
clients
to
use
their
snap
benefits
at
markets.
So
that's
a
big
effort.
F
It's
not
a
huge
piece
of
the
grant
where
I
shifted
it,
a
tiny,
the
money,
a
tiny
bit
from
the
supply
line
and
shifted
a
little
more
into
staff.
It
was
3
800.
We
shifted
it
up
to
5,
000
and
reduced
the
supplies,
because
we
realized
we
really
in
the
winter.
We're
not
going
to
need
tents
and
tables
because
we're
going
to
be
inside
we're
not
going
to
be
setting
up
the
tent
and
table
outside
to
distribute
the
food.
F
So
that's
the
major
changes,
so
we
had
a
little.
We
shifted
a
little
money
into
promotion,
a
little
more
money
into
staff
and
the
snap
discount
is
basically
the
same.
We
I
reduced
it
by
500,
but
that
was
simply
only
to
make
the
math
work,
because
the
number
of
transactions
we're
figuring
450
transactions
and
times
well,
anyhow,
there's
a
complicated
formula
formula
I
used
but
happy
to
share
that
if
people
want
it
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
again.
F
Yes,
if
we
were,
you
know,
we
feel
like
there
are
other
models
around
the
country
at
farmers,
markets
for
assisting.
F
You
know,
people
with
lower
income,
the
market
bucks
being
the
chief
one,
that's
being
used
in
a
lot
of
places,
but
you
know
that
the
idea
that
we
had
was
possibly
to
have
a
twenty
dollar
market
buck
that
we
give
out
when
we
meet
with
our
partner
agencies
and
do
the
outreach
and
then
that
would
be
sort
of
the
first
transition
or
first
invitation
for
people
to
come
to
market
and
then
the
second
would
obviously
be
that
they
come
and
use
their
snap
cards
to
shop
and
get
the
additional
discount
anyhow.
F
F
B
I'll
say
that
the
reason
that
staff
didn't
think
that
market
bucks
would
work
in
this
contact
with
cdbg
cv
funding
is
there's
a
very
large
emphasis,
with
cdbg
cb
funding
to
ensure
that
there's
no
duplication
of
benefits
for
one
thing,
but
also
monica
outlined
a
very
sensible
way
that
market
box
would
be
distributed,
which
is
you
know
at
different
places?
There
would
be
a
tracking
kind
of
number
that,
like
you,
I
think
you
gave
the
example
monica
like
say,
say:
there's
a
event
at
south
side.
B
You
know
there
would
be
south
side
community
center
and,
like
you
know,
number
one
or
something
like
that.
However,
there's
no
and
they
would
be
given
to
somebody
who
meets
the
income
requirements.
However,
there's
nothing
to
to
prevent
transferability
with
something
like
market
bucks
is
that
they
can
easily
give
it
to
somebody
who's,
not
under
income.
B
So
that's
one
of
the
issues
and
hud
is
very
you
know
they
want
to
there's
a
lot
of
emphasis
with
cdbgb
funding
to
ensure
that
it's
utilized
for
the
target
population
and
it's
used.
You
know
for
a
cdbg
cb
specific,
a
code
specific
name,
so
we
felt
that
hud
would
want
more
documentation.
B
You
know
like
the
person's
name
etc
and
proof
that
they
used
it,
which
I
think
you
know,
and
if
you
you
know,
I
I
think
monica
agreed
that
that
might
be
a
little.
You
know
that
that
administratively
would
be
difficult
and
also
counter
to
what
the
market
is
trying
to
do,
which
is
promote
people
using
it
with
ease.
This
would
be
like
there.
It
wouldn't
be
like
an
easy
way
to
use
it,
so
other
markets
have
used
this.
F
F
Right
right,
yeah-
and
I
I
mean
I
think
extension-
had
a
similar
program
that
we
ran
for
the
market
quite
a
few
a
few
years
ago,
where
we
did
the
same
thing
where
we
we,
we
did
track
the
transactions
and
each
each
coupon
had
a
number.
So
when
that
was
turned
in,
we
knew
exactly
where
it
was
handed
out
from
this
was
money
we
got
at
some
point.
There
was
a
state
program
that
enabled
us
to
do
that.
F
So
we
do
have
some
doing
that
sort
of
thing
and
can
set
it
up
with
the
market.
It's
we
didn't
feel
there
was
any
abuse
in
terms
of
our
past
experience
running
a
similar
program,
but
anyhow
it's
again
because
these
are
handed
directly
to
a
person
and
it
was
always
kind
of
a
delight
to
see
people
come
and
use
them.
They
were
sort
of
excited
to
be
able
to
do
that
because
they
just
never
had
that.
F
You
know
given
to
them
before
so
it's
kind
of
exciting,
whereas
you
know
now
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
go
to
say
a
food
pantry
but
we'll
hand
them
a
card
that
says
here's.
How
here
are
the
instructions
on
how
to
do
the
online
shopping,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
effort,
so.
F
Monica,
I
think
the
market
bucks
just
gives
an
extra
little
incentive.
Here's
20
bucks
plus
then,
after
that
you
can
use
this.
You
know
discount
to
when
you
use
your
snap
card.
F
B
Say
that
hud
does
strip
the
delight
out
of
a
lot
of
things
that
people
do,
but
what
I
was
gonna
say
monica
is
or
ask
is
when
you
go
to
the
food
pantries,
I
I'm
wondering
if
something
that
you're
planning
on
doing
is,
in
addition
to
the
cart
that
gives
the
information
bringing,
for
example,
laptop
and
showing
people
like
you
know
how
to
navigate
to
the
site
and
how
easy
it
is
to
do
that.
Just
wondering
if.
F
Yeah,
that's
a
great
idea.
I
think
that
you
know
the
outreach
that
again
it
shows
you
what
the
effort,
because
I
you
know,
I
started
getting
concerned-
that
the
outreach
effort
is
like
a
lot
bigger
than
just
trying
to
get
the
money
out
there.
So,
but
again,
given
that
we're
starting
this
friends
organization,
I
think
the
point
is
that
we
do
want
to
be
partnering
with
community
organizations
more,
so
it
doesn't
hurt
us
to
get
out
there.
So.
H
Oh,
no,
I'm
sorry,
I
was
just
gonna
say
we
that's
a
really
great
point
and
I've
actually
had
some
initial
conversations
with
like
folks
over
at
village,
at
ithaca
and
kind
of
sort
of
creating
like
a
train,
the
trainer
type
model,
where
their
staff
also
becomes
really
adept
at
navigating
our
website.
So
they
can
directly
help
their
clients,
which
I
think
is
something
we
can
do
with
folks
at
wic
and
folks
at
village
at
ithaca-
and
you
know,
while
you
were
talking
monica
about
just
the
coupons,
I'm
wondering
you
know.
H
One
thing
that
we
could
do
is
if
you
make
a
purchase
in
the
winter
on
the
online
system,
you
have
to
use
your
snap
card
and
maybe
then
in
the
in
the
you
have
to
come
and
actually
get
that
coupon
in
person
at
market,
and
I
could
verify
that
you
actually
made
a
purchase
in
the
winter
and
you
know
there
might
not
be
that
transferability
happening.
That
is,
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
something
we
can
revisit
that
in
the
spring.
B
I
mean
no
doubt
lots
of
people,
so
the
program
that
you're
talking
about
are
they
using
headphones
to
give
out
coupons.
I'm
not.
H
Sure
monica
might
know
better
where
that
food,
who
does,
I
can't
even
think
of
the
name
of
it
food
medicine,
food
presented.
B
I
have
heard
about
food
foodrx
as
an
interesting
program.
I
mean
I
know,
that's
like
an
extension
of
a
program
that
started
not
an
extension
is
based
on
a
interesting
model.
So
kelly
do
you?
Can
you
clarify
for
me
you're
saying
that
if
somebody
comes
to
the
market
and
uses
their
snap
benefit,
then
what
you're
saying
is
a
coupon
would
be
given
on
site
and
the
discount
applied
at
that
moment
to
the
person
who's
using
their
snap
benefits?
Is
that
how
you're
envisioning
it.
H
H
I
guess
what
I
was
saying
was
that
if
they
came
and
we
knew
they'd
already
used
their
snap
benefit
in
the
winter
on
the
online
system,
I
can
see
that
through
our
our
infrastructure
and
then
they
could
get
the
coupon
in
the
spring,
and
so
it's
not
like
we're
just
going
and
like
giving
it
out
on
the
spot,
we're
only
giving
it
out
if
you
physically
come
to
market
and
you've
made
a
purchase
in
the
winter,
and
I
know
that
you
have
the
snap
benefit,
because
if
people,
you
know
to
be
honest
like
if
you
come
all
the
way
to
market
you're,
gonna
spend
that
money.
H
When
you
come
like
we
see.
Most
of
most
books
are
obviously
coming
in
the
beginning
of
the
month,
they're
getting
like
three
or
four
hundred
dollars
off
their
snap
card
and
they're
spending
it
all
that
day.
So
I
don't
think
they
would
come,
get
the
coupon
and
transfer
it
to
somebody
else.
We
have
some
pretty
loyal
snap
customers.
So
I
mean
we're:
I'm
we're
happy
to
do
what
needs
to
be
done
to
you
know,
comply
with
all
the
regulations.
H
I
know
we
have
so
many
customers
that
this
is
gonna
benefit,
so
we're
just
excited
to
see
it
move
forward.
B
Proving
to
hud
that
it
hasn't
happened
is
the
issue
like
yes,
I
mean
we
have
a
you
know,
wonderful
farmers,
market
and
a
lot
of
loyal
following
and
ithacans
are
awesome
and
very
unique.
Hud
doesn't
care
the
head's
like
monolith.
Tell
us
how
you
did
this,
so
what
I
will
say
is,
like
you
know,
if
what
I
think
part
of
what
we're
here
today
to
do
is
to
understand
exactly
the
changes
that
you'd
like
to
make
and
are
proposing.
B
Then,
if
you
here's
another
wonderful
thing
about
working
with
advises,
if
you
want
to
change
it
in
the
future,
if
it's
a
very
small
change,
that's
possible.
If
it's
a
bigger
change,
that
means
you
have
to
come
to
us
again.
B
I
will
also
say
that
you
know
something:
that's
special
about
the
the
particular
headphones
that
you've
received
is
the
the
covet
specificity,
the
understanding,
how
they
meet
a
coveted
need,
and
to
me
I
will
say
that
again
we
understand
it's
an
open-air
market,
so
people
are
outside
and
that's
we
know
that
that's
safer,
but
we
also
know
that
ifm
tends
to
get
like
super
crowded
during
certain
times.
So
we
also
have
to
think
about
how
are
you
meeting
a
coveted
need?
I
think
the
online
market
seems
pretty
straightforward.
B
How
that
you
know
people
are
ordering
at
home
and
maybe
going
to
pick
up
whereas
going
to
the
market.
We
might
need
some
further
explanation
about
how
that's
not
dangerous
under
delta,
etc.
So
what
I
would
encourage-
and
I
think
what
you're
planning
on
doing
is
whatever
like
a
very
simple,
straightforward
program
for
you,
that
includes
the
lowest
administrative
having
to
double,
check
and
xyz
and
also
meets
this
need
from
hud
to
understand
how
people
are
benefiting
in
this
time
of
code,
which
I
think
is
really
straightforward.
B
H
Yeah
yeah,
so
this
will
help
them
stretch
their
dollars.
You
know
throughout
the
month
and-
and
I
think
part
of
it
I
think
increasing
the
staff
funding
is-
was
really
great
on
monica's
end,
because
if
we
can
offer
some
additional
delivery
options,
even
just
to
like
one
more
central
location,
downtown
versus
trip
hammer
on
saturdays,
that's
to
serve
a
lot
of
the
the
folks
that
we
that
I
know
are
using
their
snap
benefits
and
using
online
and
we'll
serve
them
really.
Well,
so
I'm
excited
to
get
it.
H
You
know,
once
everything
is
approved,
start
telling
our
folks
that
are
using
snap
now
to
let
them
know.
This
is
coming
down
the
pike
and
I
think
they'll
be
they'll,
be
pretty
pretty
pumped
about
this.
A
Tracy,
I
know
that
you
have
to
leave
shortly.
I
want
to
ask
if
you
have
any
questions
before
you
have
to
go.
D
F
Thanks
tracy,
yeah,
yeah
and-
and
I
feel
like
you
know
we're
this
is
an
incremental
effort
to
some
extent,
because
I
think
you
know
obviously
we're
going
into
winter.
We
can
rev
up
the
online
market.
Kelly
already
has
the
infrastructure,
the
website,
you
know,
set
up
from
last
year
and
it
did
work
last
year.
F
So
we're
assuming
you
know,
there'll
be
interest
again,
and
so
you
know
we'll
start
through
the
winter
move
into
spring
and
see
how
things
are
going
with
the
60
discount
and
then,
if
we
feel
that
we're
just
not
getting
the
food
to
people
the
way
we'd
like
to,
I
think
we
would
see
you
know
what
adjustments
we
will
have
learned
something
over
the
winter
and
see
what
adjustments
need
to
be
made
we'll
also,
hopefully
at
the
drop
up
or
the
drop
off
or
pick
up
sites.
F
You
know
be
in
our
interacting
with
people
and
they
can
give
us
feedback,
so
I
think
we'll
learn
over
the
winter
and
then
as
we
get
into
spring
and
we
get
into
the
open
air
market
and
we
can
identify
what
strategies
we
might
want
to
use
it.
It
might
be.
You
know
that
we
still
want
to
offer
like
a
neighborhood
pop-up
market
or
something
could
be
something
completely
different,
but
as
a
way
to
get
product
to
people.
So
let
me.
B
Have
a
quick
question
so
with
the
60
subsidy,
which
I
think
to
me
sounds
incredibly
attractive.
When
is
it
each
time
they
order
it's
60
off?
So
you
know
somebody
who's
really
engaged
could
really
understand.
Like
you
know,
I
can
order
every
week.
Is
that
what
you're
thinking
or
what
is.
F
H
D
F
C
I
I
have
a
question,
might
be
more
for
a
nissa
or
a
combination.
So
there's
a
new
york
program,
the
fresh
checks
or
whatever
monica
described,
does
hud
care.
If
we
piggyback
on
to
that,
like
we
don't
need
to
know
about
that
in
the
in
the
hud
reporting
or
I'm
I
like
this
program,
I'm
not
trying
to
criticize
it,
but
I'm
just
wondering
how
it
works
with
hud
when
you,
because
they're
able
to
do
60,
which
seems
like
a
huge
discount
and
maybe
that
wasn't
originally
known
or.
B
I
think
we
think
that
the
60
discount
is
still
fine
and
if
they
use
another
state
program
or
some
other,
some
other
benefit
that
farmers
market
is
like
putting
together
for
them.
As
long
as
it's
not,
I
don't
think
that's
a
problem.
Well,
you
do
have
to
this
fresh
checks.
If
they
come
from
the
state.
I
don't
know
if
there's
hud
funding
like
pass-through
funding
in
there
or
whatever,
but
it
is
a
separate
program.
B
Is
that
is
the
transferability
piece
right
right?
So
that's
that's
why?
I
think
you
know
the
great
thing
about
the
snap
you
know
giving
snap
discounts,
although
monica's
right
there
are
people
that
aren't
signed
up
for
snap
who
qualify
for
snap
is
that
they
have
already
been
income
qualified,
that's
already
documented,
so
it
doesn't
require
the
farmers
market
like
going
through
all
these
machinations.
It's
like
they're
presenting
their
snap
qualifications
at
that.
You
know
at
purchase.
C
F
Good
to
know
the
way
fresh
checks
are
used
is
that
a
person
comes
to
market
swipes
their
card
and
then
gets
for
every
five
dollars.
They
get
a
two
dollar
fresh
check.
So
that's
you
need
to
be
in
person,
so
it
really
doesn't
work
with
the
online
system
because
you're
ordering
online
and
they
aren't
there
in
person.
So
so
that's
why
we're
doing
the
discount
with
the
online
and
then
possibly
again,
depending
on
what
funding
is
left
as
we
transition
into
summer,
we'll
have
to
look
and
see
how
best
to
utilize,
both
programs
potentially.
B
B
I
think
that
there
there
seems
to
be
more
like
say
you
know,
people
who
have
health
vulnerabilities
or
whatever.
Maybe
they
just
don't,
want
to
leave
the
house
as
much,
and
so
it
sounds
like
they're
still
going
to
have
to
go
to
a
pickup
site,
but
I
think
it
you
know
there
is
also
the
the
benefit
in
that
people
are
reducing
their
risk
of
exposure
by
using
an
online
model,
and
you
know
it
seems
like
the
online
model
is
something
that
ifm
has
kind
of
wanted
to.
F
Yeah,
it
really
helped
the
farmers
last
winter.
You
know
that
it
saved
a
lot
of
the
farmers
to
have
that
extra
marketing
outlet.
So
so
you
know
this
program
benefits
both
the
consumers
and
the
farmers,
because
in
winter,
especially
is
when
their
sales
are
low
and
having
a
little
extra
boost
in
sales
is
really
important
and
most
of
our
farmers,
I
would
say,
fall
in
that
low
to
moderate
income
category
anyhow,
so
it
certainly
helps
them
as
well
to
have
more
customers
in
winter.
A
Monica
or
perhaps
kelly
the
it
it
well,
I
think
it's
I
was
gonna
say
it
appears,
but
I
think
it's
fact
that
there
are
fewer
vendors
at
the
dewitt
park
market
this
year
than
I've
seen
in
previous
years,
and
it
seems
that
that
having
that
access,
especially
for
city
residents,
could
play
a
a
real
role
in
increasing
the
number
of
people
who
come
during
the
the
open
air
season.
Do
you
think
that's
just
a
temporary
thing
because
of
the
this,
this
coveted
surge
that
we're
seeing
this
summer.
H
I
think
there's
there's
a
lot
of
factors
that
are
playing
into
the
lack
of
attendance
on
tuesdays.
Of
course,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
food
vendors
that
used
to
come
on
tuesdays
and
they
are
doing
really
well
on
the
weekends
and
they've.
Also,
a
lot
of
them
have
pivoted
models.
They
have
food
trucks,
they
have
other
things
that
are
going
on
in
terms
of
revenue
streams
because
they
had
to
during
covid
for
our
farmers.
H
Our
wednesday
market
really
picked
up
last
year,
and
so
a
lot
of
them
have
been
focusing
on
that,
because
tuesday
market
is
just
a
really
long
market
for
them
to
do
five
hours
during
the
middle
of
the
week
is
really
difficult.
So
I
think
you
know,
as
an
organization
we've
been
looking
at
what
that
market
might
look
like
moving
forward,
do
we
need
to
shorten
it?
Will
people
be
back
in
the
more
people
will
be
back
in
the
office
and
that
will
attract
some
of
the
food
vendors?
H
So
I
I'd
like
to
say
it's
temporary,
but
I
really,
I
really
don't
know.
We
had
hoped
that
that
market
was
going
to
pick
up
and
we
had
some
initial
interest
in
folks
starting
in
july,
and
then,
of
course,
the
weather
really
didn't
help
because
and
a
lot
of
our
farmers,
particularly
with
their
stone
fruits.
They
just
didn't,
have
enough
to
sell
at
tuesday
market.
H
So
I
know
nook
and
cranny
has
still
been
doing
their
csa
pickups
there,
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
incentivize
more
farmers
to
participate
in
that
in
that
market.
So
it
is
something
we're
thinking
about
at
the
organizational
level
for
sure.
A
Thank
you
any
more
questions
from
mike
or
kelly
from
the
committee.
A
Well,
I
sorry.
B
Sorry,
just
before
we
leave
so
monica,
so
the
modifications
that
you're
asking
for
are
to
go
from
40
subsidy
of
snap
recipients
to
60
percent,
to
shift
some
funds,
but
still
within
the
designated
supply
and
staffing
area,
but
shift
some
funds.
F
F
The
timing,
you
know
basically
the
timing
because
we
were
the
original
grant
was
written
to
start
in
summer
assuming.
But
I
guess
we
were
a
little
bit
naive
about
the
the
contractual
process
and
everything
so
were
in
and
again
now
that
and
it
still
seems
relevant
given
that
covet
has
increased.
So
we
don't
feel
that
there
isn't
a
need
for
the
program.
We
do
feel
there's
a
need
and
I
think
the
timing
actually
works
better
with
covid
the
way
it
is
not
that
we
want
covet
to
stay
around
forever,
but
anyhow,
but.
B
But
let
me
just
be
clear,
so
it's
so
it's
january
through
march
online,
then
april
and
may,
depending
on
the
funds
available
in
person,
is
that
correct
now.
F
With
continuing
online,
but
you
know
that
we'd
like
to
try
to
continue
april
may
online,
because
at
that
time
it's
still
kind
of
a
slim
market.
D
F
You
know
there
may
be
some,
I
mean
it's
not
main
season
yet,
so
I
think
it's
it's
still
some
incentive,
perhaps
to
do
some
online
shopping.
Then,
although
we
found
this
year,
kelly
can
attest
to
that.
It
started
dropping
off
as
soon
as
farmers
were
busy
with
outside
sales.
You
know,
but
april
may
is
still
pretty
it
can
still
be
winter
in
april,
and
may
it's
just
that
we're
outside.
B
F
Well,
yeah
we
for
the
summer
we
thought,
depending
on
how
much
money
was
left
and
it
kind
of
goes
to
carl's
point
about
what
about
tuesday
market.
If
there
wasn't
that,
you
know,
if
there
isn't
that
much
money
left,
maybe
we
would
target
the
tuesday
market.
I
mean
we
can't
really
do
wednesday,
that's
in
the
town
of
ithaca
just
over
the
border,
but
and
it's
not
in
the
the
target
population
area
so
but
tuesday.
F
B
E
B
The
clearer
that
we
can
be
about
we'll
what
the
requests
are
will
prevent
you
from
having
to
come
back
to
us
if
there's
over
two
thousand
left
so
well.
That's
all.
F
I
mean
certainly
we
it
would
be
nice
to
emphasize
tuesday,
but
you
know
we
would
also
continue
with
the
outdoor
market
to
the
extent
that
we
can
with
the
discount-
and
it
may
be
the
40
discount
that
we
get
through
the
state
through
fresh
checks
plus
20,
to
make
it
equal
60
how
we,
how
we
implement.
That
is
still
a
question,
but
you
know
it
is:
it
gets
to
be
a
complicated
program
to
to
administer
regardless,
but
we
can
do
it
through
the
snap
transactions
online.
We
hope.
B
A
B
Yeah,
okay,
identify
what
the
modifications
are.
That
would
be
the
result
statement
that
the
committee
approves
and
then
when
it
goes
to
ira
it'll,
be
a
full
resolution.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
kind
of
like
for
you
to
articulate
what
the
modifications
are,
and
it
sounds
like
what
it
is:
is
a
60
discount
for
snap
beneficiaries
who
live
in
the
city
of
ithaca
to
utilize
a
online
market
from
january
through
may,
then
any
remaining
funds
could
be
utilized
at
the
outdoor
market
going
forward
potentially
targeting
a
particular
day
of
the
week.
F
A
Yeah,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
very
much
monica.
Thank
you
kelly.
I
I
thought
I
thought
your
proposal
was
well
written
well
thought
out,
and
I
agree
with
you
that
the
the
outreach
and
the
marketing
are
really
going
to
be
key
to
your
success
here.
F
F
A
A
B
Yeah,
you
can
vote
well
how
you've
done
it
in
the
past
and
what
I
asked
nells
about
not
in
the
past,
for
this
project,
but
you
have
at
times
created
the
resolve
statement
and
then
the
rest
of
the
resolution.
Like
I
put
that
together,
I
can
send
that
out
to
you,
but
you
you
can
vote
on
the
resolve
statement
that
that's
what
you
want
and
then
I
don't
believe
you
have
to
revisit
it
before
it
goes
to
ira
board.
Unless,
after
you
review
the
the
resolution,
you
you
all
somebody
indicates
like
nope.
B
I
want
to
revisit
this
so
and
the
reason
I
didn't
create
a
resolution
is
because
I
don't
know
if
you
got
this
sense
too,
but
it
seems
like
there's
some
moving
parts
that
they've
been
considering
as
we
go
along
and
try
to
identify
how
they
want
to
how
they
want
to
create
their
how
they
want
to
modify
their
pro
their
process.
So
I
didn't
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
do
a
whole
resolution
that
then
we
need
to
change.
So
does
that
make
sense
you
can
vote
on
the
resolve,
then
I'll
create
the
resolution.
B
B
E
That
works
for
me
mainly
because
the
whereases
that
you're
going
to
create
are
all
basically
justifications
or
introductory
marks
to
the
resolution,
and
the
resolved
is
the
part
that
is
the
meaty
part.
So
I'm
I'm
happy
to
move
it.
Okay,.
B
Yeah
I
put
the
bullet
list
so
that
that's
why
I
was
trying
to
get
monica
to
articulate
she
wants
the
60.
So
what
I
would
put
in
the
bullet
list,
which
is,
I
think,
what
you're
all
interested
in
is
right:
the
60
discount
for
snap
beneficiaries
who
live
in
the
city
of
ithaca
from
january
through
may
on
the
online
market.
B
B
After
may,
discounts
will
be
applied
at
the
in-person
farmers
market,
possibly
targeted
to
a
particular
day.
That's
what
I
heard
for
saying,
but
I
also
heard
her
saying
that
they
wanted
to
see
what
happened
and
reevaluate
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
Any
further
discussion
yeah,
I
think
I
think,
anissa
articulated
everything
that
I
heard
all
right.
All
in
favor
of
our
resolution,
unanimous,
okay,
great.
A
A
B
B
We
have
a
very
attentive
hud
rep,
who
is
great.
She
used
to
work
within
the
city
of
ithaca
or
no
in
the
city
of
buffalo's
community
development
department.
So
she
comes
from
the
side
of
things
that
that
you
all
are
sitting
on
and
that
that
I
sit
on
in
in
terms
of
she
used
to
be
head
up
a
department
that
was
a
grantee
of
huts,
so
she's
very
familiar
with
working
under
hud
regs.
The
city
of
buffalo
has
a
very
large.
B
B
She
really
pays
a
lot
of
attention
to
what
we
do
so
we've
in
the
past,
like
submitted
our
action
plans
and
then
been
like
hello
after
45
days,
because,
supposedly
by
statute
after
45
days
this,
if
it
hasn't,
come
back
to
you
to
say
like
we
want
you
to
change
something,
then
your
your
plan
is
approved
but
and
they
you
know
they
still
have
to.
Like
trigger
it
on
their
own,
they
still
have
to
be
like
it's
approved
so
that
the
funds
can
be
released
or
whatever.
B
So
I
have
to
say
in
my
first
years
being
here,
it
wasn't
uncommon
for
us
to
have
to
reach
out
to
him
and
be
like
hi.
Did
you
review
our
action
plan?
Are
we
okay
to
go
forward
or
whatever?
And
in
those
days
I
feel
like
those
are
so
long
ago?
But
rashika
came
to
us
kind
of
right
before
the
pandemic
started.
In
fact,
she
had
a
site
visit
planned
to
ithaca.
B
We
were
gonna,
go
to
reuse
and
some
other
things
like
literally
two
days
after
you
know,
everything
got
shut
down
so
so
she's
been
with
us
through
the
entire
pandemic
and
helping
us
navigate
the
cdbgb
environment,
and
all
of
that
so
yeah
I
mean
it
used
to
be
like
hud
ref
would
come
back
like
one
or
two
things
I
mean
honestly.
We
had
a
hug
rep
who
was
like.
We
want
the
mayor
to
sign
his
forms
in
blue
instead
of
black,
because
it
looks
like
you're
forging
it.
B
B
Please
republish,
although
she
had
us,
do
that
recently
too
so
anyway,
last
year,
during
the
pandemic,
when
I
submitted
the
action
plan,
she's
like
okay,
let's
set
up
a
time
for
us
to
like
go
over
your
action
plan
and,
like
you
know,
we'll
discuss
what
changes
are
needed
and
we
were
like.
Oh
really,
okay
like
and
there
were
like
extensive
changes,
and
I
don't
mean
like
anything
that
was
like
terrible,
but
you
know
she
you
know
previously.
When
I
first
got
here.
B
You
know
the
mel
said,
like
our
action
plans
have
always
been
approved.
So
what
I
suggest
you
do
when
you
submit
an
action
plan,
is
to
use
the
previous
action
plan
as
your
basis
and
as
your
model,
and
you
know
honestly,
don't
broke
it,
don't
fix
what
hasn't
been
broken.
So
go
forward
using
that,
so
there
are,
you
know
if
you've
ever
seen
the
action
plan
in
its
entirety.
There
are
tons
of
spaces
where
you
can
elaborate,
where
you
can
add
more
information,
it's
not
required,
so
we
basically
you
know,
submitted.
B
You
know,
answers
to
all
the
required
questions
and
usually
without
a
lot
of
other
details.
So
rashika,
though,
really
encouraged
us
to
fill
out
more.
You
have
more
detail.
I
want
to
hear
more
about
this.
I
want
to
hear
more
about,
like
I
mean
she's
interested
and
she
wants
to
know
a
lot
about
the
programs
that
we
do.
She
wants
to
know
about
the
assessment
of
fair
housing.
B
She
wants
us
to
talk
about
those
kinds
of
things
that
we're
doing
that
that
we
do
in
our
work,
but
we
don't
necessarily
always
put
into
the
action
plan.
So
if
you
compare
an
action
plan
from
two
years
ago
to
last
year's
to
this
year's,
you
will
see
a
much
more
narrative,
rich
action
plan
and,
like
I
said,
she's
very
detail-oriented
social
notice
like
well.
You
said
here
that
you
were
going
to
spend
like
five
thousand
here,
but
hero
says
you
know,
4
500
what
happened
so
anyway.
B
I
digress
a
little
bit,
but
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
came
forward
this
time.
She
didn't
point
this
out
last
time,
but
the
process
that
we
take
with
our
action
plan
is
that
basically
common
council
approves
it
at
the
beginning
of
june
and
what
we
normally
do
is
we
have
the
matrix
available
and
like
a
very
rough
draft
available
to
the
public
at
that
time,
but
after
june
is
when
then
I
take
the
approval
as
well.
B
B
What
rashika
brought
up
that
is
no
other
head.
Rep
has
ever
brought
this
up,
but
what
she
said
is
that's.
She
had
concerns
about
that.
That's
not
adequate!
She
really
wants
during
the
time
that
the
public
is
has
the
ability
to
review
the
action
plan.
She
wants
the
entire
narrative
in
final
draft
form
for
them
to
be
able
to
review,
and
so
that
when
common
council
approves
it,
it's
a
final
draft,
so
we
you
know
previously
taken
the
approach
that
we
show
all
the
allocations.
B
Thinking
that
the
majority
of
people's
questions
are
going
to
be
about.
Like
hey,
you
said
that
you're
going
to
fund
catholic
charities
security
deposits
like
we
have
a
you,
know,
public
member
of
the
public's,
like
I
want
you
to
fund
that
more.
You
know
more
fully.
B
We
think
that
that's
not
a
good
program,
so
what
rashika
is
saying
is
that
the
public
has
a
right
and
we
have
a
duty
to
provide
the
entire
full
narrative
without
any
subsidy.
You
know
that
there
are
no
no
changes
really
after
that
draft
is
posted
so
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
that.
B
The
reason
that
we
don't
do
that
is
because,
honestly,
up
until
the
last
moment,
it's
always
possible
that
the
the
common
council
could
make
a
change
that
requires
us
to
go
back
into
the
action
plan
and
like
revamp
things,
they
don't
usually
but
it's
possible,
and
I
will
say
that
if
you've
ever
spent
time
in
hud's
information
and
disbursement
system,
I
always
laughingly
say
that
it
was
created
by
an
eighth
grader
in
their
parents
basement
like
and
at
the
dawn
of
the
internet.
It's
not
the
most.
It's
not
it's
not
like.
B
You
can
change
something
in
one
place
and
that
change
triggers,
like
all
the
other
changes
somewhere
else.
You
can't
do
like
find
and
replace
like
you
can
in
a
word
document,
though,
is,
if
you
create
a
word
document
draft
you
can't
so
it's
just
a
cumbersome
system
to
use.
So
that's
why
we
usually
wait
until
everything
is
sure
before
we
put
in
all
the
final
details.
B
B
Do
our
initial
meetings
then,
and
I
I'll
I'll,
slow
down
the
scroll
and
come
back
to
it
in
a
minute,
but
what
it
really
changes
is
that
when
the
ira
adopts
the
plan
instead
of
being
at
the
end
of
april,
it
will
be
at
the
end
of
march.
B
Then
at
that
moment,
then
I
start
writing
the
entire
draft.
It
takes
by
the
way
that
you
know
hud
estimates
it's
a
56
hour
process.
I
don't
know
if
that
includes
what,
if
they're,
including
like
outreach
and
stuff,
I
will
say
it's
like
always:
it's
like
every
year,
I'm
like
okay,
I
got
this
down,
it's
gonna
be
fast
and
it's
like
all
day
long
for
many
days,
I'm
trying
to
get
it
in
there.
So
so
then
I
start
doing
the
the
entire
narrative
make
the
entire
narrative
available
in
final
draft
form.
B
On
april
29th,
let's
say
through
the
public
hearing
at
the
maypedc
meeting
as
usual:
have
it
to
common
council
beginning
of
june,
so
that
approval
process
is
still
the
same
date.
What
it
is
is
I'm,
building
in
a
month
the
month
of
april,
to
write
the
narrative,
then
it
kind
of
picks
up
in
the
previous
timeline,
which
is
like
then
at
the
in
may.
B
We
do
the
pedc
hearing
and
so
on
and
then
in
june
common
council
approves
it,
but
like
then,
I
could
like
hit
the
button
right
then
and
submit
it
instead
of
taking
two
weeks
to
do
it.
Does
that
make
sense?
So
what
it
would
look
like
on
your
end
is,
we
would
have
our
first
organizational
meeting
in
november.
We
would
release
the
rfp
in
december.
B
Ira
would
probably
also
do
an
organizational
meeting
there.
The
first
public
input
meetings-
usually
I
do
in
january
they'd,
be
at
the
beginning
of
december.
Then
the
funding
application
will
be
due
the
last
working
day
of
just
january.
Instead
of
february
they
will
have
had
december
and
january
to
work
on
it.
Then
you
start
reviewing
in
early
february.
B
You
have
two
meetings
of
the
ira
in
february
and
beginning
of
march
instead
of
march
and
beginning
of
april.
Then
you
do.
The
ni
committee
does
its
review
in
march.
You
have
two
meetings
there
that
should
be
in
18
two
meetings
there
instead
of
in
april,
then
irae
approves
the
end
of
march.
So
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
normally
like
travel
in
march
or
something
like
that,
it
would
really
just
be
shifting
what
we
do
forward
one
month
in
time.
Does
that
make
sense.
B
And
it's
possible
after
doing
it
this
year
I
mean
we're.
I
will
say
that
staff
really
thought
about
this
before
proposing
this,
because
you
know
for
years,
like
people
have
been
used
to
it
being
in
you
know
the
deadline
being
in
february,
so
obviously
I
will
need
to
do
a
lot
of
outreach
to
people
telling
them
like
hey.
It's
changed.
I
I
always
come
to
you
and
say
like
it's
always
due
the
last
day
of
february,
less
working
day
in
february.
Well,
no
longer
it's
also
possible.
After
we
go
through
this
process.
B
Maybe
I
would
see
like
okay,
we
we
can
revert
to
our
old
schedule,
because
now
I'm
faster
putting
in
the
action
plan
or
something
like
that.
B
I
will
say
I
just
it's
a
to
use
a
phrase
that
we
are
hearing
now
all
the
time
in
the
pandemic,
it's
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
that
I'm
doing
this,
because
you
know
this
was
a
very
last
moment
at
the
very
last
moment
before
we
I
mean
after
we
submitted
the
action
plan
and
after
it
already
made
the
other
changes
that
had
requested,
then
she
kind
of
revisited
this
idea
and
was
like
well
wait
a
minute.
B
I
think
that
your
draft
changed
over
time,
and
so
I
want
you
to
repost.
You
know
11
more
days
of
review.
You
know
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
review
your
final
draft,
so
this
came
up
right
until
the
actual
deadline
in
august
of
august
15th.
You
know
the
last
moment
we
could
make
changes.
So
that
was
a
very
you
know,
nail-biting
time,
and
so
I
just
felt
that
in
order
to
avoid
that
in
the
future,
we
should
take
this,
take
this
approach
and
see
how
it
goes.
A
Mister,
could
you
move?
Could
you
move
back
up
to
the
start
of
the
process?
Yes,
what
I
wanted
to
look
at
was,
I
think,
most
people.
Well,
I
don't
think
the
february
march,
in
terms
of
you
know,
availability
of
committee,
members
or
board
members
is
an
issue,
but
you
know
the
thanksgiving.
The
christmas
is
when
people
tend
to
to.
You
know,
take
vacations.
A
Covered
of
course,
may
modify
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
look
at
how
you
know
those
how
those
holidays
might
impact
the
schedule.
B
Yeah
I
thought
yeah.
I
was
wondering
the
same
thing
and
that's
why
I
put
the
organizational
meeting
in
november.
That's
well
ahead
of
like
when
we
when
I
actually
started
doing
outreach,
which
would
be
december
1st,
so
there's
nothing
that
you
all
would
need
to
do
in
december.
I
would
be
doing
outreach
meetings
december,
7th
and
9th
or
other
days.
So
the
organizational
meeting,
as
you
know,
is
always
just
that
kind
of
pro
forma.
B
Here's
what
happens
with
hud
funds-
and
here
are
the
dates
that
we're
looking
at
et
cetera,
then
in
february,
is
when
you
would
get
those
applications
to
review
so
like
we
kind
of
skip
over
the
whole
thanksgiving
and
christmas
holidays.
B
That
way,
I
see
passover
and
easter
next
year
are
in
the
middle
of
april
and
there's
really
nothing
happening
then
either
for
you
all.
For
me
there
is,
but
I
will
say
also
that
you
know
in
our
experience
ithaca
gets
shuffled
around
a
lot
to
different
hud
reps,
usually
because
we
don't-
I
mean
we
assume,
I
don't
know,
I'm
making
this
assumption.
We
we're
not
like
buffalo,
rochester
or
syracuse,
who
get
a
lot
of
money.
B
So
we've
tended
to
be,
I
think,
for
that
reason
less
on
the
radar
and
it's
possible
that
we
could
get
a
new
hud
rep
really
anytime,
who
doesn't
have
this
concern?
This
has
never
been
raised
as
a
concern
during
the
20
years
that
we've
been
an
entitlement
community.
So
you
know
that's
a
factor
too.
We
could
be
making
changes
that
ultimately
another
head
rep,
you
know,
isn't
concerned
about,
but
it
just
seems
safest
in
this
this
time
to
to
try
it
for
next
year.
C
B
A
B
I
mean
honestly
what
I
expect,
although
I
didn't
put
it
on
there,
is
that
I
would
probably
do
several
more
like
meeting
opportunities.
I
might
do
one
at
the
you
know,
beginning
of
january,
which
is
also
a
terrible
time,
but,
like
you
know,
if,
if
it
looks
like
people
aren't
coming,
we
generally
honestly
have
one
meeting
that
has
about
10
people
that
come
and
one
meeting
that
has
about
five
people
to
come.
B
So
it's
not
that
they're
super
well
attended
anyway,
and
people
I
always
emphasize
can
meet
with
me
individually.
A
lot
of
people
take
me
up
on
that,
but
I
do
totally
agree
that,
because
of
this
change,
I
need
to
make
that
very
clear
in
a
lot
of
different
public
areas,
which
is
why
kind
of
the
sooner
not
the
sooner,
that
you
have
to
prove
it
but
like
this
is
why
we've
decided
to
like
think
about
it
right
now,
so
I
can
plan
to
do
that.
C
Question
regarding
mental
health
of
vanessa,
if,
if
we're
doing
all
this
optional
stuff-
and
it's
obviously
a
huge
time
drain
at
what
point,
are
you
allowed
to
push
back
a
little
bit
and
say
we
don't?
Have
the
staff
give
us
the
money
that
buffalo
has
and
then
we'll
do
your.
B
Actually,
yes,
that's
an
option.
I
mean
she
did
say
that
I
mean
honestly.
I
on
my
little
nose
had
suggested
last
year
when
she
questioned
whether
or
not
we
did
enough
public
outreach.
He's
like
just
create
a
chart
with
everything
that
you
do,
which
is
honestly
it's
a
lot
and
it
ends
up.
Like
looking
I
mean
honestly,
it
ends
up
looking
like
you're
doing
too
much,
but
I
just
put
on
every
single
thing
that
we
do
whether
or
not
it's
like
requires
a
lot
of
time
for
me
to
do
it
or
not.
B
B
Yeah,
although
I
mean
honestly
she'll
is
something
that
no
other
like,
for
example,
she's,
like
I
see
that
you
haven't
been
consulting
with
people
about
resiliency
like
what
is
you
know,
the
community's
capacity
to
become
a
more
resilient
community,
which
was
a
hud
thing
that
came
down
the
line
of
years
ago,
and
I
was
like
oh
yeah.
We
do
that
like
yeah,
honestly,
we
do
do
that
and
she's
like
okay.
B
A
Yeah,
I
agree.
This
looks
fine,
anissa
and
yeah,
and
I
think
it's
certainly
you're
doing
your
best
to
to
meet
the
the
I
was
going
to
say
needs,
but
I
think
it's
requirements
is
more
accurate
of
our.
D
A
E
A
B
Yes,
now
you
know
what
I
can
do
actually
too.
If
you'd
like
is,
I
mean
I
was
gonna
put
these
on
my
calendar
or
I
can
send
you
an
invitation
for
all
these
proposed
dates
a
lot
of
this.
Well,
maybe
it's
too
premature
to
do
that,
because
a
lot
of
this
usually
depends
on
when
the
mayor's
available
to
have
the
ira
meetings.
A
Sir
anissa
on
so
the
final
thing
on
our
agenda
was
the
grant
summary.
Is
there
anything
we
need
to
review
on
that.
B
B
The
child
development
council's
cdbg
cb
project
has
ended
up
being
just
a
monitoring
morass
because
they're,
you
know
again,
there's
just
so
much
there's
so
much
compliance
needed
around
like
making
sure
that
the
things
that
the
child
care
providers
buy
is
hud
compliant
and
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
especially
they
were
like
they
had
to
go
like
one
million
different
online
stores
and
stuff
to
get
things
like
toilet
paper.
So
they
have
all
these
receipts
for
tiny
amounts
of
money
and
cam
and
charles
are
like
going
through
it
like
with
their
fine-tooth
combs.
B
This
was
actually
interesting
that
our
hub
rep
asked
about
this
like.
How
are
you
making
sure
that,
with
this
child
development
also
grant
there's
not
double
dipping?
I'm
like
well,
let
me
tell
you
and
by
the
end
of
our
explanation,
she
was
very
satisfied
because
charles
and
kim
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
it
and
like
they'll.
Let
me
know
I'll
reach
out
and
ask
like:
why
did
you
buy
this
mailbox
like?
B
Why
is
it
my
mailbox,
a
cdbg
cv
purchase,
and
the
reason
was
because
this
child
care
provider
was
like
that
was
during
the
era
when
we
were
thinking
that
we
had
to
leave
things
for
three
days.
You
know
that
might
have
germs
on
them,
so
they
put
materials
in
there
and
just
waited
for
you
know
three
days
so
anyway.
So
that's
been
a
live
and
learn
one.
B
That's
why
that
one
hasn't
is
still
kind
of
ongoing,
but
I
will
be
checking
again
this
month
with
everybody
who
received
a
three-month
extension
to
see
if
they
need
more
time
and
that's
another
area
where
we
might
not
have
been
as
vigilant
as
we
should
have
as
putting
a
farther
horizon
out
for
the
expenditure
of
the
funds,
because
you
know
they
all
had
different
end
dates,
which
is
not
usually
how
we
do
things,
but
we,
I
think
we
were
just
like
okay,
this
you
know.
We
think
this
one's
going
to
end.
You
know
in
march.
B
We
think
this
one's
going
to
end
in
june.
I'm
not
exactly
sure
why
we
did
that,
but,
as
a
result,
there's
always
like
rolling
deadlines
and,
honestly
it's
like
things
weren't,
like
I
said
they
just
they
didn't.
They
didn't
use
their
funds
like
in
three
months,
just
like
dad,
you
know,
talked
about
with
the
laundry
they
came
to
us
for
a
modification
and
they're
still
spending
it
down.
So
we've
learned
a
lot
through
this
process
and
I
think
hud
has
two
and
that's
why
the
arp
funds
haven't
come
yet
that's.
B
B
When
I
say
what's:
compliantly
she's
like
we'll
tell
you
later
so
like
so,
basically
just
be
careful,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
community,
not
us,
I
will
say,
because
you
know
nells
extremely
careful
in
everything
he
does
so
we
we
basically
followed
a
lot
of
our
procedures
that
we
already
have.
We
didn't
assume
that
they
were
going
to
be
like
giving
us
a
lot
of
leeway,
but
I
think
hud
has
now
been
in
the
position
of
in
a
lot
of
communities
having
to
go
back
and
be
like
wait,
a
minute.
B
Why
did
you
do
this?
So
with
arp
funds,
they
told
us
be
ready
in
the
early
fall
to
like
start
that
process,
we'll
give
you
the
regulations,
then,
and
then
they
shut
down
all
the
informational
webinars
that
they
had
scheduled
like
we
went
to
two
webinars
and
then
they're
like
okay,
there's,
two
more
coming
up
and
then
they're
like
nope
they're
on
hold.
So
now
we're
like
hey
one
of
these
funds.
B
So,
instead
of
a
lot
of
little
grants,
probably
what
hud
would
like
to
see
is
like
making
some
major
investment.
So
it
won't
be
like
charles
is
overwhelmed
with
a
tsunami
of
contracts
that
he
has
to
like
get
through
the
pipeline,
and
things
like
that
also,
let
me
just
say
again,
like
charles,
like
amazing,
guy
he's
amazing
and
he's
put
in
just
countless
hours
of
comp
time
to
help
us
be.
B
You
know,
positioned
really
well,
so
the
fact
that
you
know
the
farmer's
market
contract
was
late
that
might
make
you
know
somebody
think
like.
Oh,
my
god,
why
aren't
they?
I
mean
honestly,
I'm
amazed
that
we're
at
the
place
that
we
are,
and
it's
really
because
of
charles's
hard
work.
In
my
opinion,.
A
All
right:
well,
we
certainly
appreciate
charles.
We
also
appreciate
the
hard
work
you
do
and
and
nails
too
I
mean
the
whole
department
is
really
we're
fortunate
to
have
such
a
dedicated
experienced
staff,
and
I
think
that's
no
hyperbole.
B
A
Right
all
right,
so
so
we
will,
unless
there's
any
further
business.
I
think
we'll
adjourn.
B
A
B
No,
I
did
reach
out
to
h-e-t-p
to
find
out
how
many
graduates
and
how
many
they
enrolled
in
their
summer
program.
I
reached
out
a
little
belatedly,
so
I
haven't
heard
back
from
them,
but
I
will
say
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
that
the
http
staff
members
have
changed
positions,
basically
alicia
who
had
been
the
coordinator
is
now
the
assistant
and
the
assistant
is
now
the
coordinator
and
leslie
sent
us
a
email
saying
that
that
was
their
idea.
They
wanted
to
do
that.
B
Alicia
has
had
some
health
problems,
but
it
sounds
like
she's
back
and
that'll
be
solid.
I
I
think
you
know
you
had
talked
about
interested
in
hearing
from
re
or
tracy
says
that
she
was
interested
in
hearing
from
reuse.
B
I
know
that
rius
has
come
to
the
mayor,
as
have
many
organizations
asking
for
some
arp
funds
from
the
cities.
The
city
is
getting
a
big
pool,
we're
getting
a
small
pool
ira.
So
you
know
I
don't
know
how
that
will
affect
whether
or
not
they
should
come
to
us,
but
we
might
have
an
update
from
them.
You
had
asked
about
a
few
other
things.
I
will
say
that
I'm
going
to
connect
monica
to
ithaca
welcomes
refugees.
B
I
just
met
with
them
for
the
first
time
yesterday
they
don't
know
if
we
will
be
getting
any
afghan
refugees
to
ithaca,
but
they
were
started
in
2015
to
really
like
focus
on
the
refugee
population.
So
we
were
talking
about
different
ideas,
and
I
think
that
was
a
relatively
small
group
of
people
that
they
work
with.
You
know
obviously
they're
people
who
are
getting
resettled
and
usually
have
families,
so
I
think
ifm's
discount.
Eighty
percent
of
the
refugees
they
work
with
were
live
in
the
city
of
ithaca
will
be
well
would
benefit.
B
I
also
connected
them
to
a
number
of
other
organizations,
because
affordable
housing
is
one
of
their
main
needs.
So
yeah.
I
think
that's
all
I
I
really
have
for
right
now.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of.
B
Designated
specifically
for
refugees,
I
did
talk
to
them
about
the
fact
that,
like
I
used
the
tiber
model
that
you
know,
bjm's
housing
for
school
success
and
the
learning
web
used-
and
I
said
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
apply
for
something
like
that
for
some
of
your
families,
we
could
talk
about
that.
B
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
staff,
so
I
think
you
know
something,
that's
they
and
they
work
closely
with
catholic
charities.
So
I
think
a
better
strategy
for
them
might
be
something
like
partnering
with
another
organization,
or
I
also
let
them
know
about
the
displacement.
The
anti-displacement
project
we've
been
working
with,
because
there,
the
I
think
many
of
their
families
would
be
income
qualified
to
apply
for
that
and
that's
direct
cash
assistance.
B
E
B
Yeah,
I
will
say
they:
I
don't
think
that
they
have
they.
I
mean
the
the
families
that
they
were
they're
working
with
have
been
here
for
a
while,
so
they
haven't,
they
didn't
say
that
they've
welcomed
anybody
new
yet
but
like
they
said
they're
preparing
us
if
they
need
to,
but
also
this
reminds
me
that
you
are
also
indicated
a
lot
of
interest
in
policies
related
to
you.
B
We
spoke
about
the
term
rental
market
last
time
you
wanted
to
know
where
that
was
policy-wise,
so
I
reached
out
to
tom
and
he
did
provide
me
some
older
materials
but
I'll
send
those
to
you.
He
said
exactly
what
I
reported
that
they
were
working
on
that
before
the
pandemic
and
then
haven't
been
working
on
it
since
the
pandemic,
but
he
was
interested
to
know
that
you
all
as
a
body
were
concerned
and
interested
in
the
happenings.
B
So
it
sounds
like
it's
kind
of
been
on
the
back
burner,
but
again
so
maybe
they'll
be
moving
that
forward.
You
also
had
a
question
about.
There
was
another
policy-
oh
edus,
I
asked
joanne,
but
I
don't
think
that
there's
anybody
that
is
assigned
to
that
right
now,
yeah.
So
that's
following
up
on
some
of
the
things
we
talked
about
last
time.
Thank.
E
You
anissa
is
that
a
new
porta
potty
on
the
end
of
on
seneca
street,
where
right
behind
the
bernie
milton
pavilion.
B
That's
a
dia
like
I
can
ask
jan
jan,
is
the
planner
that
handles
the
commons.
I
wonder
if
I
mean
I
don't
think
it
would
be
construction
related
to
the
green
street
garage
at
all
because
they
have
them
on
site,
but
I'm
like
I'll
ask
about
the
porta
potty.
I
I
that's
a
good
question.
Just
out
of
interest
yeah.
E
A
And
as
a
reminder
at
our
august
meeting
we
talked
about
if
there
are
other
agencies
you'd
like
to
hear
from
regarding
some
of
the
issues
from
our
funders.
You
know
if
you
have
ideas,
you
know
you
can
email
me
and
we
can
get
that
on
the
agenda,
though,
of
course
keeping
in
mind
that,
starting
in
december,
we're
going
to
be
quite
busy
with
the
action
plan.