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A
B
B
I
think,
as
long
as
we
feel
like
it's
not
going
to
disrupt
the
presenter
in
terms
of
you
know
the
doorbell
sound,
I
told
people
they
might
be
in
the
waiting
room
for
a
while,
and
you
know
we
might
wait
for
a
pause
or
when
we're
starting
the
con.
The
question
period
to
let
them
in.
D
A
Is
everybody
ready
we're
ready
to
rock
and
roll
all
right?
Then,
let's
start
with
public
comment.
Is
there
any
public
comment.
A
We
got
to
start
splitting
this
up,
you
know
laura
and
I
we
had
two
hours
of
public
comment.
Last
night.
We
should
smooth
this
out
a
little
bit,
maybe
an
hour
a
counselor
an
hour.
D
A
Very
good
comment:
it
was,
it
was
strong
and
informative
good
meeting
agreed.
F
A
And
I
think,
actually
displayed
part
of
the
strength,
there's
a
lot
of
obvious
drawbacks
to
the
zoom
format,
but
I
think
there's
also
a
strength.
You
know,
I
don't
think
in
council
chambers
it's
impossible
to
have
a
25
person
discussion
as
productively
as
we
were
able
to
do
last
night,
so
it's
interesting
implications
for
the
future.
But
anyway,
let's
start,
then,
with
review
of
the
minutes
from
february.
G
H
H
A
And
that
carries
unanimously
so
go
now
to
item
fives
2021
hud
entitlement
grant
and
cdbg
overview.
I
B
Yes,
so
this
year
we
have
680
thousand
dollars
in
cdbg
funds
and
334
000
in
home
funds
to
distribute
among
our
projects.
We
also
have
about
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
cdbg
cv
project
funding.
Today,
we'll
be
hearing
from
the
affordable
housing
applicants
and
the
cdbg
cv
applicants
each
will
have
12
minutes
to
speak,
including
their
question
and
answer
period.
They
have
been
instructed
to
provide
time
for
reviewer
questions
and
answers.
I
A
D
A
I
A
C
Yeah
just
give
me
a
moment
I'll
get
down
to
that
page.
C
H
E
C
Me
that
our
renters
low,
moderate
income
renters
would
need
assistance
with
so
many
people
losing
their
jobs.
So
an
authorization
190
000
was
authorized
to
ithaca
neighborhood
housing
to
operate
the
emergency
rental
program.
C
Part
of
the
contract
and
the
program
was
an
asset
cap
of
five
thousand
dollars,
meaning
that
the
recipients
could
not
have
assets
above
five
thousand
dollars.
This
has
been
determined
to
be
a
barrier,
and
so
a
modification
has
been
requested
to
delete
that
asset
cap.
C
A
H
No,
I
think
part
of
the
problem
was
that
it
was
hard
to
get
the
certification
of
the
asset
cap
to
getting
all
the
paperwork
together,
and
I
think
this
matches
with
what
the
county
is
doing
too
for
their
part
of
the
program.
So
it
was
making
it
more
consistent.
C
Right,
there's
some
other
factors:
the
rent
moratorium,
for
example,
the
stimulus
payments
that
many
of
the
folks
were
eligible
for
the
cap
or
for
the
the
fun
received,
and
so
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future.
But
it
is,
we
think,
we're
removing
the
barrier
of
the
asset
cap
and
the
related
paperwork.
We'll
make
this
accessible
to
more
people.
F
Will
this
be
promoted
by
inhs
or
do
they
have
a
list
of
applicants
who
weren't
eligible
because
of
that
one
asset
cap.
C
They
do
know
the
folks
who
had
applied
and
were
rejected
and
the
reasons
that
they
were
rejected
and
we
had
discussions
not
the
most
recent
discussion
but
last
year
with
inhs
and
about
their
efforts
to
publicize
this
program
and
they're.
Talking
with
you
know,
agencies
that
can
refer
their
clients
to
inhs.
J
C
K
J
We've
done
a
bunch
of
outreach.
Sorry,
I'm
joining
by
phone.
We've
done
a
bunch
of
outreach.
We
held
off
on
having
any
messaging
about
the
asset
cap,
because
the
county
made
the
change
before
you
all.
So
I
will
reach
out
to
justina
about
this,
but
we'll
also
go
back
to
everybody
that
we
denied
we've
already
done
that
from
the
folks
on
the
county
side
and
say:
where
are
you
now?
Do
you
still
need
rent
assistance?
J
L
A
J
M
Good
morning,
I'm
laura
lee
morrow
with
inhs,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
letting
me
present
this
both
these
pro
projects
to
you
this
morning,
and
I
can't
believe
it's
been
a
full
year.
We're
still
zooming
and
anis
has
become
quite
adept
at
guiding
all
of
us
through
this
project.
M
So
this
morning
the
first
thing
I
want
to
present
is
the
125
000
to
help
six
slow
to
moderate
income
homeowners
with
major
projects
dealing
with
structural
issues,
deferred
maintenance
and
energy
work.
As
always,
our
goal
is
to
help
homeowners
that
would
otherwise
never
be
able
to
afford
these
kind
of
renovations
different
for
this
year
is
going
to
be
a
much
stronger
focus
on
weatherization
and
energy
work.
Funding
through
nyserda
is
still
available
for
low-income
homeowners,
and
then
sometimes
they
completely
cover
the
cost
of
energy.
Upgrades.
M
We've
experienced
that
quite
a
bit
with
some
of
our
county
homeowners.
M
Each
house
proposed
for
rehabilitation
will
receive
a
certified
energy
audit,
as
well
as
the
property
condition
report
that
we
conduct.
All
of
that
work
will
be
incorporated
into
the
overall
scope
of
work.
Any
energy
work
not
covered
by
nyserda
will
be
will
be
completed
by
the
overall
project
is
our
goal.
M
I
will
say
that
vetting
contractors
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
do
for
our
clients,
in
that
ithaca.
Tompkins
county
as
a
whole
is
kind
of
unique
in
that
there's
a
lot
more
work
than
there
are
contractors,
we're
continuously
working
to
add,
approved
contractors
to
our
list,
and
it's
a
constant
need
and
frustration
that
we
don't
have
access
to
the
amount
of
trades
people
that
we
would
really
like.
M
M
We
a
young
couple,
had
structural
issues
in
their
basement
as
well
as
constant
flooding,
and
we
were
able
to
help
that
help
them
out
with
that
and
in
addition
to
the
major
work
during
our
inspection,
we
often
uncover
a
lot
of
health
and
safety
issues
that
a
homeowner
may
not
even
be
aware
of
so
we
things
like
not
working
smoke,
detectors,
gfci
outlets,
near
sinks,
unsafe
deck
issues
that
can
stare
issues,
so
we
always
take
care
of
that
as
part
of
the
whole
scope
of
work,
all
the
clients
we
helped
were
below
eighty
percent
ami
two
were
below,
fifty
percent
am
ami,
and
one
was
below
thirty
percent
ami.
M
A
new
program
we're
getting
ready
to
launch
which
I'm
pretty
excited
about
is
a
drone
program.
We
were
fortunate
enough
to
get
funding
to
buy
a
drone,
and
yours
truly
is
in
the
process
of
training
to
become
a
drone
pilot,
which
is
something
I
never
thought
I
would
do.
But
it
is
very
exciting
to
the
point
that
my
husband
now
you
know
we
had
had
to
buy
our
own
drone.
M
So
on
that
I
I
know
that
most
of
you
are
pretty
familiar
with
this
project,
so
I
won't
regurgitate
the
entire
application.
But
on
a
final
note,
while
inhs
would
appreciate
any
kind
of
funding
you
would
put
towards
this
project,
we
respectfully
request
cdbg
funding
because
home
funds
severely
limit
the
low-income
homeowners
that
we're
able
to
help
because
most
of
the
people
on
our
wait
list
are
already
at
or
over
the
value
cap
imposed
by
the
home
program.
A
Time
it's
great
when
time
is
a
factor.
Why
are
we
just
popcorn
because
I'm
not
able
to
see
everybody
at
once?
So
if
you
agency
members,
if
you
have
a
question,
just
jump
right
in.
M
We're
gonna
be
able
to
look
at
I'm
sorry,
I
meant
to
say
that
we're
actually
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
much
closer
look
at
every
people's
roofs
and
then
the
exterior
on
the
second
floor
and
windows.
Right
now.
We
have
to
stand
back
and
kind
of
do
a
best
guess
or
tell
by
what's
happening
on
the
ceiling
inside.
So
we're
pretty
excited
about
this,
and
I
did
a
lot
of
research
to
make
sure
that
we
bought
one
that
would
give
us
very
accurate
pictures
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
not
a
low
resolution.
M
F
M
I'm
not
sure
that
is
I'm
sorry.
I
can
find
that
information
out
for
you
delia,
who
was
on
the
line
earlier,
would
know
for
sure.
So
I
she
was
on
there
earlier,
so
I'm
not
100
sure
how
many
people
are
on
the
wait
list.
C
M
We
got
off
to
it
kind
of
like
hose
things.
A
little
bit
and
one
of
our
clients
was
elderly,
so
was
very
nervous
about
letting
anybody
in
her
house.
So
everybody
was
conscientious
of
that
and
and
did
not
do
any
of
the
work
or
the
inspections
until
she
was
comfortable
with
it.
M
In
fact,
she
decided
not
to
be
in
the
house
while
construction
was
going
on,
but
most
everybody
else
needed
the
work
wanted
it
and
we
were
able
to
work
around
it
and
they
all
followed
our
our
people
follow
cove
protocols
as
well
as
our
staff.
We
make
sure
they're
comfortable
with
coming
in
the
house.
So
sometimes
we
had
to
wait.
Some
people
went
into
quarantine
right
in
the
middle
of
it,
so
that
stopped
the
project
and
everybody
was
very
understanding
about
it,
and
all
projects
are
underway
and
we'll
be
finished
by
the
deadline.
I
Laura
lee
this
is
nils
your
the
proposal
is
for
six
units
with
125
000
of
assistance,
with
the
escalation
and
cost
of
materials
and
other
issues
that
you
mentioned
about
a
limited
tradesperson
base.
Are
you
confident
you
can
complete
six
units.
M
Will
have
to
be
what
we'll
do
is
probably
the
first
three
will
be
probably
looking
more
generously
at
what
we
can
do
for
the
folks
and
then
because
you're
right,
the
cost
of
materials
is
through
the
roof,
even
the
minor
repair
program,
as
we're
in
shock
by
the
amount
of
money
we're
having
to
spend
on
materials.
But
that's
what
we'll
do
we
try?
We
try
to
go
some
folks
come
in
and
they
only
need
all
their
windows
replaced,
but
there
are
some
folks
that
need
all
new
windows
and
a
new
roof.
A
N
B
Also
also
laura
lee
for
minor
repair.
M
You
this
application
is
for
your
continued
support
of
the
minor
repair
specialist
in
the
minor
repair
program.
The
program
provides
free,
labor
for
elderly,
single-handed
household
and
disabled
low-to-moderate
income.
Homeowners
materials
for
elderly
homeowners
right
now
are
currently
funded
by
tompkins
county
office
of
the
aging.
M
Typical
projects
include
repairing
replacing
deteriorated
entry
steps,
installing
railings
grab
bars,
correcting
trip
hazards,
installing
smoke,
detectors
and
making
minor
carpentry
plumbing
and
electrical
repairs.
Inhs
continues
to
see
more
and
more
requests
for
accessibility,
ramps
and
walk-in
showers
last
year
was
a
struggle
for
minor
repair.
Even
beyond
cobain,
we
only
had
one
repair
specialist
on
staff
for
most
of
the
year
and
right
at
the
height
of
the
copic
crisis,
he
was
called
away
to
take
care
of
a
family
member.
M
This
highlighted
the
importance
of
of
us
getting
more
than
one
specialist
on
staff
at
a
time.
Fortunately,
the
end
of
last
year
we
were
able
to
hire
another
repair.
Specialist
and
johanna.
Our
executive
director
gave
me
permission
to
hire
an
additional
specialist.
So
right
now
we
are
operating
with
three
minor
repair
specialists.
M
M
In
fact,
one
of
our
new
specialists
actually
lives
in
the
city
of
ithaca
and
when
we
had
those
big
snow
events
over
the
winter
he
reached
out
to
me
and
said:
can
I
go
to
clients,
house
and
shovel
their
sidewalks,
and
I
said
absolutely
so.
I
gave
him.
I
was
working
the
phones
asking
if
they
needed
it
and
he
showed
up
and
shoveled
all
the
sidewalks.
M
M
At
this
point,
we've
completed
43
jobs
in
the
city
and
have
spent
eight
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
on
materials
and
because
we
hope
to
help
our
clients
be
more
proactive
in
energy
savings.
We
have
added
a
special
weatherization
section
to
our
health
and
safety
inspection
and
are
striving
to
ensure
that
as
much
as
possible,
we
can
help
folks
better
weatherize
their
homes
as
we,
especially
in
older
mobile
homes.
They
they
have
real
weatherization
issues.
I
I
You
mentioned
that
you
really
prefer
cdbg
funding
for
any
home
ownership
award,
but
is
there
a
possibility,
in
terms
of
practicality,
to
have
partial
funding
from
home
and
parcel
from
cdbg
and
those
units
that
would
would
have
troubles
meeting
the
eligibility
test
or
home
valuation
of
the
home
could
be
funded
with
cdbg
funding?
You
know
if
there
was
a
50
50,
for
example.
Is
that
a
workable
solution
really
or
is
it
really
very
strongly
recommended
that
the
funding
be
100
from
cdbg?
If
awarded
for
that
program?.
M
Currently,
the
well,
the
2019
funding
was
a
split
between
home
and
cdbg,
and
so
we,
what
we
did
was
for
for
the
clients
that
just
couldn't
meet
the
post
rehab
the
post
rehab
limits
imposed
by
home.
We
they
went
straight
cdbg
and
then
so
when
we
get
to
the
home
lending
struggles
with
the
clients
that
are
going
to
meet
those
requirements.
So
it
was
it's
much
harder
to
move
clients
forward
at
home
because
of
their
limits
on
what
the
home
can
be
worth
after
the
project's
done.
M
H
I
D
B
O
Yeah
angela
will
be
joining
me.
I
believe
she's
on.
O
Good
morning,
I'm
I'm
ready,
you
can
start
a
clock
good
morning.
Everyone.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
accepting
our
application.
Reviewing
we're
really
excited
about
this
project.
510
west
state
street
apartments.
O
First
off
I
would
like
to
introduce
myself
I'm
laura
matos,
visum
chief
operating
officer,
and
I
have
today
with
me,
angela
from
providence
housing
development
corporation.
Our
partner
in
this
deal
visum,
you
probably
all
know,
but
it's
an
italica-based
development
company.
Our
portfolio
was
prior
mostly
focus
on
student,
housing
and
market
rate
apartments,
and
we
are
really
focusing
on
expanding
this
portfolio
to
include
more
affordable
and
workforce
housing
projects.
O
We
understand
that
more
than
50
of
the
city
of
ithaca
households
are
cost
burdened,
and
especially
now
after
covid.
So
that's
why
we
believe
this
project
is
so
important.
This
is
a
100,
affordable,
housing
project.
We
would
have
57
units
with
a
mix
of
studios,
one
and
two
bedroom
apartments
and
that
will
serve
households
with
income
between
30
and
90
percent.
So
it's
a
very
inclusive
project.
O
Additionally,
we
have
900
square
feet
of
retail
space
facing
state
street,
so
keeping
that
vibrant
retail
corridor
along
state
street
is
also
a
big
part
of
this
project.
The
project
has
a
big
emphasis
on
sustainability.
O
We
will
have
we
exceed
all
the
standards
for
later
green
building
policy
code,
we'll
have
electric
heat
pumps
led
lighting,
energy
style
appliances,
insulated
heat
pump,
hot
water
tanks,
and
this
translates
not
just
for
a
better
project
for
the
environment,
but
also
for
the
community
and
for
our
residents,
as
they
will
have
a
lower
impact
in
their
financials
by
paying
low
utility
costs.
O
Another
unique
aspect
of
this
project
is
the
location.
We
are
just
three
blocks
away
from
the
commons
0.3
miles
from
three
bus
stops
that
connects
the
residents
to
everywhere.
They
want
to
go
in
tompkins,
just
a
short
ride,
a
walk
or
bike
ride
to
urban
parks,
cayuga
lake
waterfront
and
much
more
so
with
employment
and
amenities
in
such
close
proximity.
O
The
state
street
department
will
bring
much
needed
family
housing
for
a
workforce
that
is
already
experiencing
an
increased
difficulty
for
looking
good
quality
housing
in
tompkins
county
for
an
affordable
price.
With
that
introduction
to
the
project,
I
will
hand
over
to
angela,
so
she
can
talk
about
our
financials,
introduce
herself
and
touch
it.
How
our
project
hits
all
the
goal
of
the
father.
L
We
were
brought
to
the
project
team
because
of
our
experience
in
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits,
we
have
developed
owned
and
managed
over
a
thousand
units
within
the
diocese
of
rochester,
and
this
project
fits
right
in
our
wheelhouse
of
of
expertise.
L
L
Our
particular
market
study
for
this
project
showed
a
capture
rate
of
1.9
and
so
for
anyone
who's
not
familiar
with
capture
rates.
That
equates
to
about
3
000
people
in
need
of
this
type
of
housing
for
the
57
units
that
it'll
provide.
So
really
this
is
targeting
exactly
where
there
is
the
strongest
need
within
the
city
of
ithaca.
We
went
to
our
market
rate,
affordable
consultants,
and
we
said:
where
is
there
the
greatest
need?
That's
that's?
L
L
Those
awards
have
not
been
made,
yet
we
anticipate
an
announcement,
hopefully
sometime
in
april,
although
nobody
really
knows
for
sure.
Unfortunately,
at
the
time
of
the
application,
we
also
had
a
pending
submission
in
for
the
empire
state
supportive
housing
initiative
each
eye.
L
Unfortunately,
we
did
not
receive
that
grant
this
year,
we're
certainly
going
to
reapply,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
project
is
in
a
grace
to
move
forward
with
or
without
that
funding.
As
a
result
of
not
being
awarded
the
eshai
funding.
That
did
a
couple
things
to
the
underwriting,
since
we
submitted
to
iura
one.
Is
it
slightly
reduced
our
annual
cash
flow?
L
It
reduced
the
amount
of
conventional
loan.
We
were
able
to
get
because
our
income
to
expense
ratio
and
debt
coverage
ratio
have
slightly
adjusted
and
it
also
caused
our
federal
housing
trust
fund,
housing
trust
fund
mix
to
shift
a
little.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
the
project
can't
be
funded.
It's
just
that
we
have
to
to
make
some
adjustments.
L
We
have
three
ways
of
fixing
that
gap.
One
is
applying
for
more
funding
which
we
intend
to
do
with
federal
loan
bank.
Another
is
obviously
with
the
iura
application
grant.
We
can
use
that
to
fill
part
of
that
gap
and
then
the
third
lever
we
have
at
our
availability
is.
We
could
potentially
go
back
and
adjust
some
of
the
income
limits,
so
disturbing
households
at
30
percent
of
area.
L
We
could
potentially
push
a
few
of
those
units
up
to
forty
percent,
maybe
take
a
few
of
the
fifty
percent
units
and
put
them
up
to
sixty.
We
prefer
not
to
do
that.
Getting
this
grant
would
allow
us
to
keep
those
rents
as
low
as
possible,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
target
those
most
in
need,
but
that's
certainly
a
tool
we're
willing
to
visit
if
we
don't
receive
all
the
grant
funding
that
we
asked
for
so
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
to
any
questions.
H
So
can
you
yes,
could
you
please
say
what
is
the
money
that
you
didn't
get
when
I'm
looking
at
the
construction
financing
amount?
Unsecured?
Is
that
the
which,
which
number
was
that
that
you
didn't
get.
L
So
the
funding
that
we
didn't
get
actually
was
not
capital
funding.
It
was
okay
funding
for
the
rents
so
about
five
of
the
units
we
had
set
aside
that
we,
it
would
be
the
lowest
of
the
low,
but
we
had
additional
income
coming
in.
So
we
had
to
make
that
adjustment.
L
It
is
per
month,
yes,
and
unfortunately
it
does
ripple
through
the
underwriting
so
because
it
affects
our
debt
to
income
ratio
which
reduces
the
amount
of
conventional
financing.
We're
eligible
for
also
takes
a
couple
of
those
units
where
we
would
have
been
eligible
for
federal
housing,
trust
fund.
We
have
to
move
over
to
housing,
trust
fund
financing
and
since
we're
already
at
the
max
allowance
for
that
that
becomes
a
gap.
H
So
does
that
affect
the
special
needs
population
that
you
were
talking
about
housing?
Yes,
the
the
homeless,
substance
issues
and
we.
L
Would
still,
we
would
still
aim
to
target
those
populations,
we
would
give
them
a
preference.
It
means
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
subsidize
their
rent
in
the
same
way.
L
H
And
it
would
still
allow
for
on-site
services
there,
yes,
for
the
people
who
are
in
those
apartments
if
they,
but
it
doesn't
guarantee
that
they
would
be
in
them
anymore.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
correct?
Okay,
so
they
might
or
might
not
be
included.
H
L
That's
a
great
question:
we
would
hope
that
they'd
be
there,
but
we
have
no
way
to
guarantee
that
catholic
services
would,
who
would
be.
Our
servicing
agency
would
put
staff
there.
We
envision
that
there'd
probably
be
a
need.
They
always
need
additional
room
for
staffing,
but
you
know
if
they
find
that
there's
no
clients
that
they're
serving
they
they
may
choose
to
only
staff
that
location,
part-time.
H
H
Frugal
or
something
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
look
as
nice
as
I
thought
it
was
going
to
so.
I
know
this
project
is
going
through
site
plan
review
and
it's
working
with
the
planning
board.
O
Okay,
thanks
for
the
comment
we'll
take
that
in
consideration,
I
also
would
like
to
welcome
anyone
that
wants
to
go
see
the
apartment
inside
327,
west
seneca
I'll
be
happy
to
give
a
tour.
They
look
really
really
beautiful
inside.
We
hear
very
great
comments,
but
I
appreciate
your
comment
as
well.
H
I
have
another
question,
which
is
a
a
big
part
of
this
project
would
be
funded
with
the
low-income
housing
tax
credits
and
that
will
be
decided.
You
said
in
april
we're
hoping
yes,
so
what
happens?
If
it
doesn't
go
your
way,
then.
L
There's
likely
going
to
be
another
round,
we're
told
so
if
you
don't
get
funded
in
april,
we
would
turn
around
and
reapply
in
may.
Thank
you.
L
Yes,
it
does
two
things:
it
shows
local
government
support,
but
it
also
helps
us
leverage
additional
funds.
L
L
B
Great
thanks
very
much
both
of
you
we're
now
ready
for
our
next
project,
feel
free
to
you
can
stay
in
the
room
and
observe
or
leave
any
time,
and
the
next
project
on
the
docket
is
511.
South
plain
street
for
sale,
duplex
and
leslie
ackerman
is
here
from
imhs.
B
P
Am
hi
everyone
thanks
for
having
me
I'm
leslie
ackerman,
I'm
the
community
housing
trust
manager
at
inhs,
so
I'm
responsible
for
the
development
of
inhs's
for
sale
homes,
and
that
includes
the
511
project
at
hand.
I
know
you've
all
had
a
chance
to
review
the
the
project,
so
I'm
just
going
to
walk
through
a
bit
of
the
background
and
development
and
leave
time
for
questions.
P
We
have
asked
the
iura
for
80
000
towards
the
construction
costs
of
this
project
located
at
511
south
plain
just
to
orient
you
that's
about
a
block
north
of
six
mile
creek,
it's
right
around
the
corner
from
significant
elements
and,
of
course,
we're
not
showing
visuals.
Today
we
get
to
watch
the
clock,
but
if
any
of
you
has
multiple
screens-
and
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
google
maps,
the
street
view
has
a
really
good
photo
of
the
site.
P
To
give
you
to
give
you
that
picture,
we
purchased
the
property
from
the
adjacent
owner
at
513
about
two
years
ago
and
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge,
the
lot
at
511
has
been
vacant
for
decades.
The
only
structure
on
the
property
that
we're
aware
of
was
a
decrepit
old
garage
that
spanned
the
property
line
of
the
two
lots
and
we
had
that
garage
demolished
last
year.
P
The
lot,
if
you're,
looking
at
the
picture
you
can
see
the
lot
is
narrow,
but
it
is
deep,
and
so,
with
the
shortage
of
buildable
vacant
sites
in
the
city
and,
of
course,
extreme
shortage
of
affordable
for
sale
housing.
We
really
wanted
to
see
if
we
could
find
a
way
to
build
two
units
on
the
site
and
take
maximum
advantage
of
it.
P
Well,
luckily,
it
turns
out
that
the
size
and
layout
of
the
parcel
are
very
similar
to
a
site
on
2nd
street,
where
we
built
a
for
sale
duplex
in
2014.,
so
we're
able
to
use
that
design
with
a
few
modifications.
Claudia
brenner
was
the
architect
on
the
original
project
and
she's
made
the
minor
modifications
to
the
design
for
plane
street.
The
most
significant
change
that
we're
making
is
that
these
units
on
plane
will
be
built
on
crawl
space
rather
than
on
full
basements.
P
P
The
duplex
units
themselves
are
both
two
bedroom
one
and
a
half
bath.
One
is
about
a
thousand
a
little
more
than
a
thousand
square
feet
and
the
other
is
eleven.
Fifty
so
they're
not
identical.
Each
unit
has
its
own
driveway.
It
has
a
private
front,
porch
and
rear
porch,
and
there
is
yard
space
green
space.
In
the
back.
P
Now
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
has
reviewed
that
they've
granted
the
variance
in
february,
as
well
as
a
variance
for
the
second
driveway
and
the
building
department
has
completed
review
of
the
project
and
issued
our
building
permits.
So
we
are
ready
to
go,
which
is
very
exciting.
Just
a
couple
more
things
about
the
the
building.
P
As
most
of
you
probably
know,
inhs
has
been
committed
to
constructing
homes
to
a
high
green
building
standard.
For
a
long
time.
This
project
is
going
to
be
no
exception.
It's
designed
to
achieve
leed
gold,
certification,
great
insulation,
it's
going
to
be
an
all-electric
building,
air
source,
heat
pumps
for
heating
and
cooling.
P
As
the
the
previous
presenter
noted,
energy
efficiency
is
a
really
essential
part
of
affordable
home
ownership.
So
that's
critical
for
us.
The
location
also
is
going
to
be
a
great
feature.
It's
both
modeling
smart
urban
development,
as
well
as
helping
save
time
and
money
for
the
the
homeowners
10
to
15
minute,
walk
to
the
commons,
the
south
side
shopping.
There
are
parks
and
schools
and
many
services
in
the
area.
P
A
bus
stop
right
on
the
corner,
so
very
amenable
for
car
free
living,
if
that's
by
choice
or
by
necessity,
and
we
expect
to
break
ground
later.
This
spring
anticipate
knock,
knock
wood,
completing
construction
towards
the
end
of
the
year
or
early
2022,
with
the
two
units
being
for
sale
immediately
thereafter,
they
will
be
priced
to
be
affordable
to
a
first-time
home
buyer,
earning
up
to
80
percent
of
ithaca
area,
median
income
for
2020,
that's
about
48
000
for
a
single
person.
It
adds
68.50
or
thereabouts
for
each
additional
person
in
the
household.
P
So
what
that
translates
to
in
affordable
selling
price
is
the
lower
end
of
the
mid
100s
range
so
probably
about
140
ish?
If
you
follow
ithaca
real
estate,
which
probably
all
of
you
do
to
an
extent,
you
know
you
can't
find
anything
right
now
larger
than
a
tool
shed
in
that
price
range
in
the
city
when
sold
the
homes
would
become
part
of
the
community,
housing,
trust
or
cht.
That's
the
program.
I
run
that
encompasses
all
of
inhs's
for
sale
homes.
I
Leslie
this
is
nils.
I
in
the
past,
the
agency
has
been
been
interested
to
understand
the
cladding
material
that
would
be
included.
It
would
be
utilized
on
the
structure.
I
think
the
plans
show
cementatious
collaborate.
Is
that
something
that
you
can
commit
to,
or
is
that
only
if,
if
you
have
enough
funding
at
the
end
of
the
process
to
afford
a
more
expensive
non-vinyl
sighting.
P
That
will
be
an
upgrade
that
we
do
that's
a
top
priority
for
us
if
we
can
afford
to
do
so.
As
I
noted
in
the
application,
this
project
was
originally
designed
not
to
require
iura
funding
and
our
general
contractor
believed
that
they
could
do
it
at
a
budget
that
wouldn't
require
us
to
seek
this
funding.
A
I'll
just
add
great
great
location
for
it
and
as
you
as
you
stated,
a
very
big
need
for
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities.
B
Q
B
I
do
not
see
danella.
R
No,
that's,
okay,
and
I
think
ish
is
here
as
well.
It
was
here
when
I
got.
E
R
Okay,
cool
yeah,
because
I
just
can't
see
everyone,
so
that's
great
awesome!
Well,
I
I
feel
like
you're
gonna
start
the
clock
and
then
I'm
supposed
to
start
talking
is
that
true,
all
right
here,
we.
B
R
Well,
quick:
I
want
to
introduce
myself,
I'm
dani
baron,
the
executive
director
of
the
learning
web-
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
having
us
here
to
discuss
the
housing
scholarship
program.
R
It
serves
youth
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
united
states,
there
are
14.2
million
youth
experiencing
homelessness
each
year
and
in
tompkins
county
there
are
500
youth
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
each
year
and
the
purpose
of
our
application
is
really
to
secure
funding
for
our
scattered
site
apartment
program,
and
the
purpose
of
this
program
for
the
learning
web
is
to
partner
with
iura
and
other
agencies,
to
work
towards
ending
homelessness
for
youth
in
tompkins
county,
and
I
know
that
that
is
an
audacious
goal
and
it
sounds
kind
of
out
there,
but
I
think
that
it's
a
worthwhile
goal-
and
I
don't
know
when
that
might
be
possible
for
us
to
end
homelessness
in
tompkins
county
for
youth,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
worth
reaching
for
so
the
housing
scholarship
program.
R
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
it.
We've
been
running
this
program
at
the
learning
web
since
2008,
and
in
that
time
we
have
served
60,
youth
and
those
are
that's
an
updated
number
from
this
week.
So
that's
that's
hot
off
the
press,
if
you
will
and
56
of
those
participants
have
exited
safely
and
currently
there
are
four
participants
in
our
program
with
two
apartments
that
are
getting
turned
over
and
then
filled
again,
so
they're
currently
empty.
R
So
during
the
2019
and
2020
funding
year.
So
that's
the
last
time
we
applied
before
now
there
we
served
a
total
of
nine
youth
in
that
program
in
the
scattered
site,
apartment
housing,
scholarship
program,
and
then
we
didn't
apply
the
next
year
and
then
so
during
the
2020-2021
year
that
we're
currently
in
so
far
we
have
served
six
youth
in
that
scattered
site
apartment
program,
and
so
I
would
like
to
introduce
ish.
R
She
is
one
of
our
participants
in
the
program
and
I'm
just
gonna
ask
her
a
couple
questions
and-
and
let
her
tell
you
about
her
experience
so
ish.
My
first
question,
for
you
is
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
it
what
it's
like
for
you
to
be
in
the
housing
scholarship
program.
S
Hi
so
I
joined
the
program
last
year
in
the
summer
time.
It
is
like
a
crucial
and
like
really
important
part
of
me
being
able
to
maintain
like
my
jobs
and
working
toward
going
back
to
college.
It's
definitely
helped
me
relieve
a
lot
of
stress
of
worrying
about
like
where
I'm
going
to
be
laying
my
head
at
night
and
just
able
to
maintain
a
job
and
not
try
to
fit
in
to
pay
an
apartment
that
I
know
I
can't
afford
in
ithaca.
S
It's
really
important
because,
like
from
the
situation
coming
from
a
situation
to
where
I
was
like,
I
had
nowhere
to
stay
and
moving
from
shelter
to
shelter
and
then
having
like
a
stable
home
to
be
able
to
like
lay
my
head
and
you
know,
have
the
support
system
through
the
learning
web
has
been
like
really
helpful
and
then
being
able
to
do
that.
Meanwhile,
working
towards
my
goal,
going
back
to
school
and
then
law
school
to
do
human
rights
law
is
just
like.
I'm
really
appreciative
for
it
and
yeah.
R
Thank
you.
My
second
question,
ish
is
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
it's
like
to
work
with
a
case
manager
and
the
staff
at
the
learning
web.
S
It's
like
it's
very
supportive
because
there's
certain
things
that
I
don't
I
didn't
know
like
you
know
who
to
go
to
or
what
to
do
when
I
was
new
to
ithaca
anthony's.
My
case
manager
he's
very
helpful.
He,
like
you,
know,
helps
me
network
in
town
and,
like
just
I
asked
him
any
questions
that
I
don't
know
that
he
I
think
he
could
possibly
help
me
with
he's.
S
They
help
with
a
lot
of
things
too,
like
it
could
be
anything
I
can
call
him
about,
like
I
don't
know,
trying
to
reach
out
to
a
college
or
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
I'm
going
to
get
to
work
like
when
I
first
started
here
like
have
figured
out
a
bus
pass
and
stuff
like
that,
and
it's
just
like
knowing
that
you
have
someone
you
can
go
to
for
anything
like
that
is
also
has
been
really
helpful.
So
awesome.
S
I
think
it's
important
to
realize
the
percentage
of
homeless
youth
in
town
here
and
coming
here,
like
I
can't
stress
how
just
scary
it
is
as
a
young
adult
to
like
not
know
if
you're
gonna
be
able
to
afford
an
apartment
here
and
not
have
any
familial
support
like
financial
from
no
family,
like
you
know,
completely
cut
off
and
you're
only
relying
on
a
job
that
barely
covers,
like
your
basic
needs,
let
alone
an
apartment.
S
That's
like
eight
nine
hundred
dollars
and
then
just
be
able
to
pay
that
every
single
month
and
be
able
to
feed
yourself
and
do
all
that.
So
I
hope
you
see
that
it
is
really
important
and
helpful.
R
Awesome,
thank
you
ish.
If
you'll
hang
out
for
a
few
minutes
I'll
finish
up
and
see
if
there's
any
questions,
okay,
so
one
of
the
great
aspects
of
our
scholarship
program
is
the
network.
We
build-
and
I
know
ish
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
with
the
staff
support,
but
they
also
are
able
to
meet
with
other
youth
in
our
program,
and
we
do
that
on
a
monthly
basis.
R
Right
now,
during
hovid,
we
do
it
on
a
monthly
basis,
and
this
network
of
staff
and
and
peers
is
essential
to
ongoing
support,
after
after
our
participants
are
able
to
safely
exit.
R
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
funding
for
this
year
that
we
did
not
the
for
the
previous
year
that
we
have
not
applied,
for
that
was
because
we
didn't
actually
spend
all
the
money
from
the
2019
cycle
and
the
reason
we
didn't
spend
that
was
really
due
to
the
pandemic.
So
in
march
we
closed
the
learning
web
for
some
amount
of
time.
So
we
closed
our
doors.
R
We
continued
to
give
services
to
the
participants
who
were
already
in
the
program,
but
during
that
time
we
weren't
moving
anyone
in
and
we
we
did
move
some
people
out,
but
we
weren't
moving
people
in
we
weren't
doing
intakes,
and
so
some
of
those
apartments
did
stay
open
for
some
amount
of
time.
So
we
didn't
obviously
pay
rent
on
them.
R
So
so
then
we
opened
back
up
in
july,
so
we
were
closed
for
about
four
months
and
then
our
staff
really
focused
in
on
how
in
the
in
this
pandemic,
can
we
serve
the
people
that
we
have
in
our
program
already
and
then
about.
In
august
we
started
to
move
people
back
into
apartments,
and
so
it
was
slow
for
us
to
just
spend
the
iura
funding
so
now
we're
kind
of
back
to
serving
people
moving
people
in
on
a
regular
basis,
and
so
that's
great
for
us.
R
There
are
some
other
pandemic
things
we
ran
into.
I
would
say
so.
One
of
the
things
that
has
happened
is
we've:
had
people
overstay
their
time
at
the
learning
web
for
our
program
and
due
to
the
moratorium.
That's
currently
still
in
new
york
state
were
unable
to
you,
know,
evict
them
or
ask
them
to
leave,
or
anything
like
that.
We
did
try
some
creative
ways
to
try
to
get
the
participant
that
overstayed
for
this
program
out,
but
they
ended
up
leaving
on
their
own.
R
But
that
was
another
thing
that
happened
to
us,
as
we
definitely
were
trying
to.
We
didn't
fill
an
apartment
because
someone
was
still
in
it
and
so
that
definitely
affected
our
ability
to
pay
that
down
or
spend
that
funding.
So
then
you
know
the
other
thing
we
focused
on.
A
lot
is
just
educating
our
youth
about
the
pandemic
and
how
to
remain
vigilant
and
safe,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
working
on
this
year.
So
I
would
love
to
take
questions
if
anyone
has
them.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
sharing
your
experience.
It's
really
powerful
and
appreciated.
G
I
have
one
and
shorts
and
applications
so
sorry
I
missed
it
daniella.
So
what?
What
is
the
typical
timeline
you
mentioned?
You
had
one
or
two
people
overstaying
because
of
kobe
like
what
is
the
typical
timeline
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
successfully
graduate
people.
R
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
really
great
question.
So
our
typical
program,
it's
designed
to
run
12
months
with
18
months
as
like
a
a
space
that
we
can
help.
You
know
if
people
aren't
quite
ready
if
they
need
a
month
or
two
more
or
if
they
need
six
months
more,
we
will
extend
that
to
them
and
we
have
kind
of
an
internal
committee
that
that
decides,
if
that's
the
track,
that
will
work.
So
typically,
it
hasn't
been
an
issue.
We
work
with
our
participants
to
really
you
know,
save
money
learn
how
to
budget.
R
We
start
looking
for
apartments.
You
know
when
it's
time
to
look
for
apartments
so
that
they
are
able
to
graduate
from
that
program.
What
we
would
call
safely
and
safely
means
that
they're
going
to
stay
with
a
friend
or
family
permanently,
or
they
are
going
to
get
their
own
apartment,
buy
their
own
house
something
along
those
lines.
So
that's
what
we
consider
safe,
and
so
we
work
with
them
on
that
timeline,
to
make
sure
that
they
get
out
of
that
space.
Yeah.
C
I'll
ask
a
question.
Sorry,.
C
R
Yeah,
so
I
that
number
seems
to
be
stable
for
the
last
little
while
good,
give
her
give
or
take
a
few.
But
it's
been
it's
hovered
around
500
for
a
few
years
now,
and
so
there
are,
you
know
there
are
multiple
programs
that
are
trying
to
help
these
youth
get
into
stable
housing,
and
so
I
think
that
the
the
sort
of
collective
is
definitely
helping
to
keep
that
number
stable
yeah.
R
I
saw
a
question
in
the
chat
about
why
we
closed
when
people
needed
the
help
most,
and
I
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit.
I
do
full
disclosure.
I
started
in
october,
so
I
started
after
all
of
this
happened,
but
my
understanding
is
that
the
learning
you
know
the
learning
web
we
closed.
R
We
had
some
some
real
internals,
like
staff
fear
as
well,
so
they
continued
to
have
some
fear
around
the
pandemic
and
as
we
educated
our
staff
and
got
them
comfortable,
worked
to
bring
them
back
to
to
bring
in
more
youth
and
and
serve
them
in
the
capacity
we
have
in
the
past.
I
Daniella
your
application
says:
you'd
serve
eight
eight
households,
but
you're
only
running
six
units
and
the
program's
12
to
18
months.
So
are
some
of
the
some
households
include
more
than
one
person
or.
R
Yeah
so
one
they
could
include
one
or
more
people
and
then
two,
the
other,
like
some
people.
Typically,
the
way
that
it
works
is
some
people
are
in
the
program
right
now
and
will
graduate
maybe
in
the
next.
You
know,
eight
months
after
this
funding
comes
in,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
it's
both
of
those
things,
but
some
people,
some
of
our
families,
have
children,
and
so
that
also
helps.
D
B
Michaela
is
in
the
room,
I
believe
she
knows
yep.
I
just
saw
her
on
mute.
B
Oh
yes,
we
can
see
him
michaela,
I'm
here.
T
J
T
Okay,
so
hi,
I'm
michaela
cortwright,
the
deputy
director
at
catholic
charities.
I
was
recently
promoted
from
the
samaritan
center
director,
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
security
deposit
funding.
T
T
T
T
This
grant
benefits,
landlords
and
renters
due
to
the
incentive
built
into
the
program,
if
tenants
fulfill
the
requirements
of
their
lease
they're
eligible
to
use
that
deposit
towards
their
next
apartment,
we
follow
up
with
recipients
at
the
six
month
and
12
month,
mark
and
of
those
that
we
are
able
to
reach.
For
this.
Last
year
we
found
that
92
percent
of
the
applicants
had
remained
stably
housed.
T
The
request
for
security
deposits
have
has
remained
consistent
over
the
years,
but
due
to
the
covet
pandemic,
it
shifted
some
patterns,
family
members,
fam
fewer
families,
were
moving
in
2020
due
to
sheltering
in
place
and
the
moratorium
on
evictions.
T
T
T
Whichever
is
less,
we
do
anticipate
the
average
deposit
being
1200
per
household
assistance
has
been
previously
kept
at
750
and
applicants
would
have
to
cover
the
rest
in
doing
further
research
research.
During
our
follow-ups,
we
learned
that
people
had
been
depleting
what
little
resources
they
had
left
for
their
other
housing
expenses,
and
this
was
often
their
entire
month's
ssi
check
and
they
were
just
cobbling
together
different
payment
arrangements
and
we
feel
like
this,
doesn't
start
them
off
on
a
stable
enough
footing,
especially
since
they're
already
financially
vulnerable.
B
B
Hey
kayla
is
it
time
for
q,
a.
A
A
That's
I
I,
I
suspect,
as
a
result
of
familiarity,
it's
knowing
and
supporting
this
program
for
many
years,
so
thank
you,
mikayla.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
thanks
for
being
here.
B
Yes,
that's
correct.
We're
going
to
now
start
I'm
hearing
from
applicants
who
applied
for
cdbg
cv
code,
specific
funding,
so
the
first
one
we'll
be
hearing
from
is
black
hands
universal
about
their
health
and
wellness
proposal.
Q
Oh,
the
minute
is
up,
so
my
face
doesn't
show
up.
Alright
name
is
I'm
the
founder
and
ceo
of
black
hands
universal.
We
had
been
running
a
kobe,
specific
operation
since
last
summer
that
we
created
we
give
out
power
smoothies
to
people
who
are
disenfranchised
in
the
area
that
we
started
in.
It
was
area
where
people
were
sleeping
on
porches,
sleeping
on
the
stat
porch.
Also,
a
lot
of
the
homeless
people
from
over
in
the
jungle
come
by
that
way
all
the
time,
because
we
all
know
it's
nato
exchange.
Q
So
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
we
were
worried
about
getting
coveted
and
getting
sick
and
not
having
the
proper
nutrition
and
the
proper
things
that
they
needed
in
their
bodies
in
order
to
fight
off
even
the
common
cold.
So
we
came
up
with
an
idea
where
we
worked
with
the
community.
Q
We
gathered
fruits,
we
bought
some
things,
we
gathered
supplements
and
we
made
power
what
we
called
power
smoothies
throughout
the
summer
and
handed
them
out
for
free.
This
also
allowed
us
to
work
with
workforce
and
the
youth
employment,
and
we
were
able
to
hire
four
kids
for
that
stand
this
year.
We're
planning
on
happening
having
one
in
west
village
working
with
anthony
hayden
up
there
and
one
on
the
north
end
working
with
stevie
brown
who's.
Also,
director
of
black
hands
universal
with
those
three
tents.
Q
Q
This
time
we
see
a
much
larger
volume
being
that
it'll
be
three
locations,
also
the
fact
that
we'll
have
the
whole
summer
in
order
to
do
it
and
the
kids
actually
have
a
whole
summer
work
this
year,
because
last
year
we
knew
that
cove
had
prevented
all
the
children
and
everybody
else
the
young
people
from
having
any
employment.
So
we
did
our
best
through
that
in
our
movies
to
do
stipends
or
whatever
we
could
do
to
try
to
keep
them
float.
Q
Q
Are
looking
for
a
budget,
you
know
to
get
more
tents,
tables,
chairs,
blenders
material
and
whatever
can't
be
done
through
you
guys,
I
guess
we
will
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
work.
B
I
H
Last
year,
did
you
say
west
village
and
someplace
on
the
north
side?
Is
that
right.
D
H
How
many
hours
would
teens
be
working
generally.
H
Q
Q
D
C
I
have
a
question
for
harry
good
morning
harry.
Could
you.
D
E
D
Q
Our
funding
for
this
past
year
actually
came
out
of
me.
Miss
none
and
a
few
of
our
friends
pockets.
Pretty
much.
Then
we
also
had
like
pitched
in
and
helped
with
donations
and
pulled
up.
They
bought
things
and
drove
up
and
dropped
them
off
like
it
was.
It
was
all
ithaca.
C
Q
G
I
have
two
questions,
one
for
harry
and
then
one
for
staff,
so
harry
it
looks
like
most
of
what
you
need
is
supplies
equipment
so
other
than
the
stipends
right,
and
so
are
you
getting
food
donated?
Are
you
purchasing
the
food
supplies
like
the
fruits
and
things.
Q
From
other
stuff
I
mean
we
all
know
anything.
It's
like
donations
are
like
volunteer
work
yeah,
sometimes
when
people
want
to
they'll
be
there,
but
it's
also
still
volunteer
work,
so
they
can
also
choose
to
say
today
is
not
the
day
I
feel
like
doing
it.
So
we
get.
We
go
to
the
farms
and
stuff
like
that.
We
get
donations
and
things,
but
there's
a
lot
of
specific
things.
When
you're
making
smoothies,
you
can't
make
smoothies
out
of
everything.
Q
So
there's
a
lot
of
moments
where
we'll
have
to
go
and
purchase
the
fruit
or
purchase
the
almond
milk
or
purchase
the
orange
juice,
or
sometimes
I
have
to
go
purchase.
The
supplements,
which
is
what
I
was
saying
most
of
it,
came
out
of
our
pockets
and
miss
nuns,
pockets.
G
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
then
fry
the
nails
or
anissa.
How
does
this
work?
I
was
noticing
the
question
about
verifying
eligibility
there
anything
additional
that
they
would
need
to
do
beyond
what
is
put
here
just
to
make
sure
we're
guaranteeing
that
we're
meeting
a
low
mod
income.
G
B
Yes,
there's
a
couple
scenarios
we've
discussed
if
stipends
for
the
youth
are
what
is
funded,
then
verifying
the
the
youth
family
income
would
meet
the
low
income
eligibility
requirement.
B
Otherwise,
then,
yes,
there
would
need
to
be
some
sort
of
verification
of
income.
It
could
be
a
limited
clientele
in
cases
where
the
site
was
going
to
be
specific
to
homeless
people.
Otherwise,
you
know
we'd
have
to
talk
through
some
other
scenarios,
whether
it
was
census
tract
or
other
ways
to
collect
that
information.
So
those
are
a
couple
of
the
options
we've
talked
about.
It
does
seem
that
you
know
if
they
use
payment
question
they
use
employment,
could
answer
the
lmi
eligibility.
B
I'll
just
also
add
in
that
this
was
a
question
that
came
up
earlier
and
we've
reached
out
to
harry
already.
He
already.
We
already
have
this
conversation,
but
we
would
also
work
with
this
applicant
to
ensure
that
the
items
that
were
funded
were
compliant
for
cdbg
regulations.
Some
of
the
larger
items
such
as
generators
and
the
freezer
are
not
it's
not
a
compliant
use
to
purchase
them
for
a
project
unless
you're
right
purchase
them
purchases
them.
B
So
something
like
leasing
or
renting
if
those
were
to
be
funded
will
be
the
more
compliant
pathway.
B
Right
and
probably
prioritizing
what
what
the
needs
are
or
which
brings
me
to
one
of
my
questions
I
just
wanted,
and
perhaps
a
reviewer
wanted
to
ask
this
as
well,
but
harry
we're
wondering
what
the
stipend
level
you're
envisioning
would
be
for
you.
B
Q
B
Q
Through
south
side,
I
believe.
B
Okay,
so
we
might
want
to
work
with
you
to
figure
out
the
summer
budget.
You
mentioned
wanted
to
do
this
all
summer
long,
so
that
might
be
12
weeks.
It
might
be
10
weeks.
Q
That
so
you
would
you
like
me
to
email
you,
the
specifics.
G
I
Q
Oh,
I
forgot
about
that.
That's
dr
nunn's
favorite
part.
I
don't
like
it
so
much
so
I
try
to
forget
about
it
because
it
hurts
so
you
know
we
do
yoga
every
morning
with
the
with
the
groups
in
front
of
south
side.
So
we
start
off
our
morning
meeting
at
south
side.
We
do
yoga
and
south
side
and
then
we
all
get
up
and
start
our
day.
Q
G
D
B
Yes,
heather
campbell
has
joined
us
she's
in
the
room.
Let
us
know
heather
when
you
would
like
us
to
start
the
clock.
K
Okay,
I
think
I'm
ready
so
hi
everyone,
I'm
heather
campbell
executive
director
of
the
advocacy
center.
Thank
you
so
much
for
considering
our
proposal.
Our
proposal
is
actually,
I
think,
pretty
simple
and
straightforward,
but
we'll
really
have
a
big
impact
on
our
day-to-day
functioning
right
now
during
the
pandemic
and
actually,
as
we
go
into
sort
of
whatever
comes
next
in
the
over
the
next
few
months
and
into
next
winter
and
fall
just
really
quickly.
K
K
We
in
2020
we
had
over
35
more
hotline
call
volume
than
the
previous
year,
but
that
really
doesn't
tell
the
full
picture,
because
most
of
that
increase
was
during
the
second
half
of
the
year,
where
we
had
months
where
we
were
over
50
percent
higher
in
call
volume
than
our
baseline,
and
that
has
really
continued
into
this
quarter.
K
Our
hotline
is
still
running
almost
25
over
baseline
for
january
february
and
march
and
clients
who
are
coming
to
us
are
their
situations
are
more
complicated
and
more
dangerous,
so
we
are
providing
a
really
high,
sustained
level
of
service
and
we're
doing
that
still
with
a
hybrid
model.
So
we
have
been
fairly
cautious
with
our
covert
precautions
for
the
health
and
safety
of
our
clients
and
of
our
staff.
K
So
we
have
been
providing
in-person
services
in
personal
crisis
services
throughout
the
pandemic,
but
also
has
staff
working
remotely,
but
we
are
trying
to
move
more
staff
back
into
the
office.
The
way
we
work
is
very
collaborative
and
our
triage
model.
How
we
triage
cases
through
is
very
collaborative
there's,
often
a
couple
of
people
or
two
or
three
staff,
sometimes
involved
in
passing
off
a
case
or
providing
crisis
services,
and
that
is
hard
to
do
or
harder
to
do.
We
figured
out
how
to
do
it,
but
it's
harder
to
do
remotely.
K
So
we
are
really
interested
in
bringing
more
staff
back
to
the
office
and,
in
particular,
our
on-call
staff,
who
triage
the
volume
of
calls
that
are
coming
in
from
professionals
and
from
clients
during
business
hours,
and
we
have
two
on-call
staff
and
a
new
hotline
coordinator
position
that
we
created
during
the
pandemic
in
order
to
deal
with
this
really
influx.
K
In
of
cases
that
we
were
having
that
we
were
seeing
coming
in,
we
very
much
want
to
bring
both
those
staff
back
to
the
office,
but
right
now
those
staff
are
sharing
a
large,
a
larger
office
in
the
back
of
our
building,
and
we
because
of
the
configuration
we
can't
safely
have
all
three
of
them.
The
desks
aren't
distanced
enough
because
of
doorways
and
closets,
and
just
the
configuration
of
the
building.
We
can't
have
all
three
staff
in
that
space
at
one
time
and
maintain
covet
precautions.
K
We
also
can't
have
a
client
meeting
with
a
staff
person
and
have
other
staff
working
in
there.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do-
and
we
had
actually
consulted
with
claudia
brenner,
about
some
challenges
in
our
building
the
local
architect,
and
this
one
suggestion
she
had
made-
was
that
we
could
subdivide
this
because
of
the
way
that
it
is
configured
in
the
building.
K
We
could
easily
subdivide
this
office
into
two
office
spaces,
which
would
give
us
more
options
for
where
we
place
people,
and
it
would
give
us
two
separate
office
spaces
where
people
could
be
distanced,
and
then
we
could
just
put
a
doorway
into
the
hallway
and
we
would
have
two
office
spaces
instead
of
one
big
space,
both
the
spaces
have
their
own
ventilation,
we've
consulted
with
our
hvac
people,
and
some
ventilation
works
as
it
stands
right
now,
so
we
don't
have
to
touch
any
of
that
and
also
means
the
spaces
will
be
properly.
K
It
would
really
make
a
large
difference
for
us
to
bring
both
of
these
staff
people
or
all
of
these
staff
people
back
at
one
time.
Right
now-
and
you
know,
we
expect
that
we're
gonna
have
to
still
remain
cautious,
we
hope
less
cautious
over
the
coming
months.
K
This
also
gives
us
more
private
spaces
to
meet
with
clients,
which
we
really
need
right
now
as
well,
and
we
really
hope
that
the
trajectory
will
continue
towards
things
reopening
and
being
more
open,
but
if
it
doesn't
continue
in
that
forward
direction
in
this
fall
or
winter,
we
have
to
take
more
precautions.
The
space
will
become
even
more
important
for
us
again
because
it
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
have
more
staff
in
the
office
working
safely.
K
This
is
really
just
putting
a
dividing
wall
down
the
middle
of
the
space,
so
we're
building
a
wall.
We
are
insulating
it
for
sound.
We've
learned
that
lesson
in
our
building
that
we
own
that
we
need
to
have
some
sound
insulation,
or
else
it
sounds
like
you're
in
the
same
room,
so
we're
putting
some
insulation,
which
increases
the
cost
a
little
bit
and
then
we're
just
cutting
a
hole
in
the
hallway
and
putting
a
door
in.
So
it's
a
pretty
straightforward
project.
K
I
know
there
were
some
questions
that
came
back
from
the
committee
about
the
amount
of
money
for
the
proposal
we
have
had.
This
proposal
quoted
out
a
couple
of
times
during
the
pandemic,
because
we
know
the
cost
of
materials
has
continued
to
rise
and
my
understanding
from
our
contractors.
Some
of
the
costs
have
been
really
unstable,
they've
been
rising
and
falling
and
then
rising
again.
I
did
check
with
our
contractor.
K
He
said
he
still
feels
like
our
our
estimate
is
in
range
and
that
he
you
know
he's
he
wasn't
concerned
about
having
to
re-quote
it
out
right
now,
based
on
the
quote
he
gave
us,
we
have
looked
at
the
labor
cost
as
well
and
we
did
put
in
a
some
a
possible
overage
in
the
proposal
that
we
would,
of
course,
if
we
don't
need
that
money
either
for
labor
or
for
materials,
we
would
return
that,
but
we
did
put
in
a
small
overage
as
well
to
try
to
take
into
account
in
between
when
we
put
in
the
proposal
and
when
we
get
funded,
there
could
of
course
be
changes
in
materials
costs.
K
A
Thank
you,
heather.
Any
questions.
F
K
Counting
on
okay
yeah,
so
I
and
I've
checked
in
our
contractor-
has
us
penciled
in
and
his
the
goal
would
be
to
get
get
this
done
before
he
starts
his
summer
project.
So
there's
a
little
timing
issue,
and
he
also
knows
that
this
is
really
I
mean.
The
point
is
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible
so
that
we
can
start
using
the
space,
because
that's
what
we
really
want
to
do
so
yeah
we're
still
on
track
for
that.
F
Great
great
and
do
you
can
you
give
us
any
information
on
historically
the
call
volume
changing
over
the
course
of
the
year?
Do
you
see
different
times
of
year
a
higher
call
volume.
K
It
is
variable
for
us,
we
see
some
seasonality,
but
not
that,
like
that,
usually
our
usual
seasonality,
difference
sort
of
different
times
of
the
year
is
like
in,
like
the
10
range,
not
the
20
to
55
range.
So
what
we're
seeing
is
consistent
with
other
what
other
domestic
and
sexual
violence
programs
are
seeing
across
the
state
is
that
we
just
saw
a
surge
in
need
after
lockdown,
and
that
has
not
you
know
we
just
we
keep
thinking
it's.
Okay,
we'll
have
a
couple
of
days,
we'll
be
a
little
slower
and
we're
like
okay.
K
Maybe
that
wave
is
coming
back
down
and
then
it
is
going
right
back
up
so
right
now.
This
is
part
of
a
larger
trend
that
we're
a
part
of,
and
we
don't
know
how
long
that
increase
will
continue,
or
if
this
is
the
new
baseline.
We
don't
know.
Thank
you
for
that.
D
K
B
Okay,
now
that
we
have
anton
burkett
in
the
room
and
also
monica
roth.
U
Right
now,
the
ifm
board
and
management
are
engaged
in
developing
a
four-year
strategic
plan.
It
aims,
among
other
things,
to
increase
the
access
and
affordability
of
locally
produced
foods
in
our
community.
So
this
project
that
we're
presenting
this
morning
it
fits
squarely
within
those
goals
and
we're
really
excited
to
be
contin
considered
for
this
opportunity.
U
The
cova
19
pandemic
has
really
severely
impacted
our
customer
attendance
and
our
vendor
sales
at
the
farmers
market
over
the
last
year,
and
so
in
order
to
minimize
this
continued
impact
on
our
vendors
as
well
as
offer
our
community
a
safe
way
to
shop
in
2021,
we'll
be
offering
an
online
ordering
option.
That's
coupled
with
a
weekly
off-site
curbside
pickup
at
the
dmv
parking
lot
at
our
winter
farmers
market
this
year.
We
piloted
this
online
shopping
program
and
it
was
actually
a
huge
hit.
U
U
Ithaca
farmers
market
is
deeply
committed
to
the
essential
service
of
providing
food
to
those
that
are
at
the
highest
risk
in
our
community
and
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
subsidize
online
purchases
for
ithaca's
low
to
moderate
income
households.
A
curbside
pickup
program
once
successfully
launched,
should
pay
for
itself
over
time.
Outlasting
the
infusion
of
grant
funds
and
creating
a
viable
access
point
for
affordable
locally
produced
food
for
low
moderate
income
households
for
years
to
come.
V
Hey
thank
you
and
good
morning.
Everyone
I'm
glad.
I
logged
on
you're
ahead
of
schedule,
so
I'm
going
to
just
give
a
little
bit
more
details
on
how
we
plan
to
promote
the
program,
especially
to
low-income
households.
V
So
we
think
that
online
shopping
will
be
contin,
continue
to
be
a
viable
alternative
in
the
future,
as
demonstrated
by
all
the
retailers
that
are
involved
in
this
method
of
sales
as
well.
V
So
we
realized
that
you
know
to
reach
the
snap
target
population,
which
is
primarily
we're
focusing
on
the
city
neighborhoods,
where
we
have.
We
assume
there
are
a
high
proportion
of
folks
receiving
snap
benefits,
and
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we'll
only
focus
on
city
residents
that
obviously
anyone's
eligible
for
snap
could
do
the
purchasing
online
and
receive
the
subsidy.
V
So
so
one
of
the
things
that
extension-
and
I
realize
I'm
retired-
but
I'm
still
volunteering,
one
of
the
things
that
extension
will
do
and
probably
me,
along
with
baz
perry,
who
is
our
food
equity
coordinator.
At
extension,
we
will
do
some
outreach
to
the
agencies
in
our
community
that
serve
low-income
residents,
specifically
dss.
V
I
have
talked
to
the
dss
food
stamp
coordinator
and
informed
her
about
the
program
and
also
catholic
charities,
who
is
the
prime
agency
signing
people
up
for
food
stamps,
also
working
with
tc
action
and
south
side
and
geck,
and
so
by.
V
We
hope
to
host
a
zoom
meeting
where
we
get
those
people
who
run
those
programs
and
do
the
outreach
inform
them
about
this
subsidy
opportunity
so
that
they
can
do
more
to
inform
the
residents
that
they
work
with
to
you
know
that
have
that
have
access
to
food
stamps,
so
so
the
that
meeting,
plus
some
additional
social
media,
media
and
follow-up.
We
hope
to
attract
a
fair
number
of
residents
who
are
eligible
for
snap
to
use
the
online
shopping
subsidy.
V
So
we
hope
to
run
the
program.
Is
that
a
okay?
We
hope
to
run
the
program
for
the
season
from
may
to
the
end
of
october
and
start
by
setting
up
the
pickup
in
the
parking
lot
of
the
dmv,
but
then
possibly
expanding
it
in
july,
when
there's
more
product
available
to
the
south
side,
neighborhood
somewhere,
this
site
hasn't
been
identified
and
so
we're
hoping
that
we
won't
create
a
lot
of
jobs
this
season.
V
So
and
again,
as
anton
said,
we
feel
the
program
will
be
successful
in
the
long
run,
and
in
that
way
we
can
build
in
some
extra
money
into
the
program
so
that
it
will
help
cover
future
subsidies.
So
that's,
I
think,
we'll
leave
it
at
that
and
then
answer
any
questions.
G
V
But
there
are
others
incentives
for
online
for
shopping
at
the
farmers
market
with
snap,
the
state
has
a
program
where,
for
every
five
dollars
that
you
buy
tokens
at
the
farmers
market,
for
with
your
snap
dollars,
you
get
a
two
dollar
coupon,
and
so
that
actually,
in
effect,
is
a
40
benefit
for
those
people
who
shop
at
the
market
in
person,
but
that's
not
available
to
the
people
shopping
online.
G
G
H
Is
is
there
any
reason
that
the
state
wouldn't
match
it
online
as
well?
Well,.
V
We
haven't
asked
so
yeah,
it's
just
a
different
program.
It's
if
we
get
the
thing
is
with
the
state,
those
the
coupons,
the
for
they
call
them
fresh
checks.
We
get
a
limited
number,
and
so
you
know
if
the
state
gives
us
more.
That
would
be
great,
so
we
just
would
have
to
ask
to
see
if
they
could
give
us
more,
but
the
fresh
checks.
You
know
for
again
for
every
five
dollars
they
spend
in
tokens
at
the
market.
V
They
get
the
two
dollar
fresh
check
so
and
whether
we
can
use
that
at
the
online
it
gets
a
little
more
complicated
because
of
staffing
and
and
record
keeping
and
everything
in
that
situation,
because
you
have
to
you
know
the
checks
go
back
to
the
farmers
and
the
farmers
get
paid,
so
it
becomes
more
complicated.
U
We
have
talked
about
yeah,
we've
talked
about
doing,
deliveries
to
you,
know,
centralized
apartment
complexes,
and
things
like
that
that
are
in
in
ithaca.
V
Well,
the
north
side
has
several
apartment
complexes
and
then,
in
addition,
if
we
you
know,
are
able
to
get,
you
know
further
afield,
we
would
deliver
or
potentially
have
another
pickup
site
in
the
south
side
too,
where
there
again
are
lots
of
some
apartment
complexes
and
also
where
there
are
low
to
moderate
income
residents.
A
You
bring
this
sorry
scrolling
down
to
great
synergy.
B
Yes,
the
next
project
is
called
partners
in
health.
Karen
brown
is
here
and
is
anita
with
you,
karen
no.
W
W
Ahead,
as
you
just
said,
my
name
is
karen
brown
and
I'm
here
to
represent
the
bryce
energy
associates
proposal
and
before
we
get
started,
I
did
want
to
clarify
that
I
use
numbers
instead
of
percentages,
so
that
should
be
a
hundred
percent
for
both
the
ithaca
city
residents
and
the
lmi
and
the
project
information.
W
Unfortunately,
cobin
19
has
given
us
a
perfect
example
of
how
misinformation
lower
health,
literacy,
skills
and
health
equity
can
impact.
Not
only
our
individuals
and
also
our
communities,
and
you
know,
there's
a
quote
that
george
bernard
shaw
says:
the
single
biggest
problem
in
communication
is
the
illusion
that
it
has
taken
place,
and
this
is
something
that
we
see
all
the
time
when
we're
working
with
health
care
providers
and
it's
not
to
at
all
damage
their
reputation.
W
But
we
need
to
remember
that
they
learn
over
11
000
different
vocabulary,
words
and
that's
the
terms
that
they
speak
in
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
When
we
talk
to
them,
they
think
they've
been
very
clear
as
much
as
kobe.
19
has
been
a
terrible
thing.
A
silver
lining
is
exactly
the
same
thing
is
that
it's
given
us?
W
In
my
work
that
I've
done
at
the
gerontology
institute,
we've
really
found
that
it
has
to
be
a
partnership
between
empowering
the
older
individuals
as
well
as
anybody
when
they
go
in
to
be
prepared
for
their
appointments,
as
well
as
where
do
they
find
accurate,
reliable
information
on
the
internet
as
well
as
training
providers
and
community
health
or
community
based
organizations,
because
we
all
know
that
it's
our
cbo's
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
the
navigation
and
helping
people
access
services
and
things
like
that,
and
when
we
get
together.
W
We
realize
that
we're
all
talking
in
acronyms
that
we
all
have
our
own
words
for
everything.
I've
been
on
the
health
planning
council
for
tompkins
county
as
well
as
chaired
the
long-term
care
committee
before,
and
it's
just
been
very
evident
that
we
all
are
well
intentioned.
But
we
need
to
really
look
at
how
we
can
change
our
skill
sets
to
empower
those
and
we
really
look
at
trying
universal
precaution
with
individuals
or
with
our
health
care
providers,
because
a
lot
of
times
they
want
to
say.
W
Oh,
I
can
tell
by
looking
at
this
person-
or
I
know
whether
or
not
I
need
to
dumb
it
down,
and
it's
not
about
dumbing
down.
It's
about
making
sure
that
we're
confirming
understanding
and
when
we
look
into
effective
cross
cultural
communication.
W
It
all
comes
back
to
clear
communication,
respect
confirming
understanding
and
that's
where
we're
coming
at
from
this
program
and
dr
wright
and
I
have
been
colleagues
for
over
20
some
years,
we
started
back
when
we
were
both
working
in
the
hiv
and
aids
field
and
working
with
individuals
back
in
the
late
90s,
and
so
we
just
have
had.
W
I
brought
her
in
to
consult
with
me
on
how
to
make
sure
that
we
had
diversity
and
inclusion
in
all
of
our
health
literacy
materials,
and
we
have
really
come
up
with
a
good
program
around
the
respect
model
and
our
highlights
of
this
program
would
be
to
provide
16
hours
of
training
for
community-based
and
health
organization
with
a
stipend.
Our
challenges
have
been
of
getting
the
right
people
to
the
training.
W
So
that's
why
we'd
like
to
do
a
stipend
to
get
them
in,
as
well
as
doing
a
four-part
series
with
older
adults
where
we
can
really
talk
about
and
have
them
do
some
exercises
around
being
prepared
for
their
appointments,
as
well
as
how
to
find
the
information
around
covet
19.
W
This
is
really
important
because
there's
so
much
information,
as
well
as
the
digital
literacy
issue,
of
being
able
to
sign
up
for
the
appointments
and
that
type
of
thing
has
been
huge,
and
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
exactly
how
much
to
give
you.
But
I
thought
I'd
leave
the
remainder
of
the
time
for
questions
so
that
I
might
be
able
to
answer
something
that
we
weren't
very
clear
on
or
that
you'd
like
more
information.
A
X
I
have
a
question
karen
karen,
so
in
the
consulting
on
the
equity
and
inclusion
side
that
that
seems
to
inform
all
of
the
work
given
the
demographics
of
tompkins
county,
given
the
populations
that
we're
seeing
increases
from
specifically
the
latinx
population
and
asian
population
and
within
the
asian
population,
they
have
great
diversity.
We
have
a
significant
burmese
population,
tibetan
population,
apart
from
other
east
asian
and
and
the
latinx
population,
and
culturally
and
demographically.
Those
are
populations
that
tend
to
have
larger
families
and
intergenerational
in
intergenerational
presence.
X
You
know
what
I've,
what
I've
noticed
in
my
35
years
in
this
community
is
that
there
isn't
a
lot
of
thought
given
to
translation
of
materials
at
point
of
service
beyond
to
these
communities
that
are
increasing.
You
know
one
out
of
ten
residents
of
this
community
aren't
born
in
the
us
and
that
again,
these
numbers
are
only
increasing
what
part
of
that
has
factored
into
the.
How
are
you
factoring
those
changes
into
a
program?
That's
promoting
health
literacy.
W
Well,
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important
to
me
is
to
do
a
training
that
isn't
about
just
checking
the
box
because
a
lot
of
times
I
see
people
are
like.
Oh
we're,
meeting
the
health,
literacy
or
the
cultural,
linguistic,
appropriate
services
by
providing
a
translator
and
we
simplified
our
written
materials,
and
it's
way
more
than
that,
and
so
why
we
really
like
the
think
cultural
health
model
from
the
office
of
minority
health
is
the
respect.
W
The
tools
to
do
that,
but
we
also
use
the
agency
for
healthcare,
research
and
quality.
They
have
a
limited
education,
not
education.
W
Pardon
me
limited
english
proficiency
and
it's
a
beautiful
program
that
they've
put
together
with
videos
and
it's
very
powerful.
W
So
this
has
definitely
been
something
that
has
informed
our
program
and
the
reason
why
we
also
like
this
one
is
because
diversity
can
sometimes
cause
a
lot
of
anxiety
for
providers
who
want
to
get
it
right,
but
they
they're,
nervous
and
they're
like.
How
am
I
going
to
learn
everything
about
all
these
different
cultures
when
this
model
really
talks
about?
This
would
be
the
same
way
that
you
talk
to
everybody.
W
W
When
you're
meeting
with
the
different
cultures,
it
isn't
as
anxiety
written
for
maybe
the
providers
as
well
as
teaching
them
how
to
find
the
tools
that
they
need
and
making
sure
that
they
aren't
just
relying
on
just
a
really
poorly
put
together,
interpreted
piece
of
paper
and
handing
it
to
them.
I
W
Well,
for
the
seniors,
that's
why
we
put
a
little
bit
of
a
50
incentive
for
them.
We
have
had
the
folks
that
go
through
something
similar
to
this,
have
really
enjoyed
it
and
gotten
a
lot
out
of
it.
I
think
it's
also
going
to
be
a
challenge
with.
W
If
we
do
it
virtually,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
those
folks
would
be
able
to
access
it
if
a
college
does
have
students
that
will
help
older
adults
learn
how
to
use
a
device
we're
also
working
with
libraries
and
different
places
like
that
for
folks
to
be
able
to
access
it,
because
access
is
a
concern,
but
we
have
found.
We
had
did
this
up
at
longview
and
we've
done
one
at
mcgraw
house
and
it
filled.
W
So
I
do
think,
especially
in
the
coven
19.
We
have
a
little
leverage
to
get
people
who
are
interested
in.
How
do
you
find
the
right
information?
I
think
it's
we've
also
been.
What
do
we
call
it
to
get
them
there?
It
makes
a
big
difference
too,
and
food
if
we're
in
person,
but
that's
why
we're
doing
the
stipend
to
try
to
if
we
have
to
do
it
virtually.
H
I
have
a
quick
question:
this
is
tracy
it's
for
hi,
it's
for
30,
elderly
individuals
and
for
25
professionals.
So
it's
a
total
of
55
people.
30
elderly
individuals
are
the
ones
that
you're
saying
100
less
than
ami
correct.
Yes,
okay,.
W
Because
it
was
my
understanding-
and
I
might
have
misunderstood-
that
the
people
elderly
are
considered
lmi-
is
that
correct.
B
I
can
clarify,
but
we
can
hud
does
make
some
assumptions
about
elderly
population,
but
we
would
work
with
you
about
that,
determining
where
you
were
going
to
be
doing
your
outreach,
outreaching
selection.
W
No,
they
would
be
in
tompkins
county
in
that
area.
I
was
going
to
ask
you
about
that.
I
wasn't
sure
how
to
reflect
that
they
would
be
providing
services
to
the
folks
in
the
city
of
ithaca.
Thank.
A
All
right,
next
up,
saint
john,
forgive
me.
B
I
think
roy
is
in
the
room
and
roy
may
be
joined
by
press
title
bomb
for
this
presentation.
B
B
Okay,
no,
I
did
let
people
know
in
the
materials
that
if
there
were
late
arrivals,
we
would
try
to
move
forward
in
the
agenda
and
get
them
in
at
the
end.
So,
and
I
again
I
did
see
roy
did
email
me
this
morning,
saying
chris
titled
mom
would
join.
I
did
see
roy
join
the
meeting,
but
it's
possible
that
something
that's
occurring
at
their
site
or
something
in
there.
A
B
B
Of
course,
I
think
everybody
here
knows
that
businesses,
service
providers,
community
institutions
have
been
closed
or
severely
curtailed
their
hours
and,
for
these
reasons,
often
do
not
make
public
restrooms
available.
That
normally
would
be
available
in
the
community
and,
as
a
result,
we're
seeing
in
the
city
of
ithaca
and
increased
incidents
in
public
urination
and
defecation
that
dwp
department
of
public
works.
Crews
have
needed
to
address
I'm
cleaning
and
sanitizing
around
town,
mitigating
where
they
can.
B
So.
This
project
came
about
through
various
conversations
in
the
community
that
a
neighborhood
investment
committee
has
discussed
this
issue
a
couple
of
times
and
issued
some
guidance
around
if
there
were
to
be
a
public
portable
public
restroom
in
town.
What
they'd
like
to
see
so
I
spoke
to
various
stakeholders
around
town,
including
city
staff,
the
director
of
planning
service
providers,
the
continuum
of
care
and
others
to
understand
what
they
perceive
the
needs
to
be
around
town,
to
develop
a
proposal
that
could
provide
a
temporary
restroom
during
this
time
of
public
health
crisis.
B
So
the
the
importance
of
this
project
is
that
people
who
normally
have
very
limited
access
to
their
own
restroom
or
public
restrooms
are
the
most
likely
to
be
impacted
by
those
closures.
So
to
address
the
situation,
placing
a
portable
restroom
somewhere
near
downtown,
where
people
could
access
it
and
sanitize
their
hands
is
what
we
are
proposing
in
order
to
address,
covet
need
and
other
public
health
needs.
B
So,
as
we
all
know
during
cobit
hand,
sanitizing
is
of
utmost
importance
and
having
this
resource
available
could
also
promote
public
health
in
other
ways
such
as
helping
prevent
or
address
the
spread
of
hepatitis
a
which
is
spread
through
contact
with
human
fecal
matter
and
again
hand.
Sanitizing
is
very
important
to
that,
so
the
project
proposes
to
place
a
temporary
restroom,
a
portable
restroom
for
up
to
12
months
somewhere.
Close
to
downtown
there
are
various
sites
that
we've
explored,
including
creek,
walk,
baby
bank
alley.
B
Another
place
on
the
commons,
for
example,
the
the
mouth
of
bank
alley
near
dewitt
park
at
a
parking
lot,
a
city
parking
lot
at
geneva
and
mlk,
and
there
could
be
others
considered.
Those
are
all
that
that
we've
discussed.
B
We
have
researched
the
costs
which
are
outlined
in
the
application,
but
the
overall
cost
of
the
application
assumed
an
ada
compliant
unit
for
12
months
and
would
allow
for
some
flexibilities
in
the
amount
of
cleaning
and
so
on
with
the
service
provide.
The
predator
of
the
the
porta
party
does
clean
once
a
week
and
that
can
be
increased
to
any
number
of
days
for
45
dollars
a
day.
The
department
of
public
works
already
owns.
B
I
believe
it's
an
electrostatic
sanitizing
handheld
machine
that
can
sanitize
the
surfaces
of
the
of
the
restroom
not
doesn't
fully
clean
any
debris
out
just
the
surfaces,
and
the
proposal
proposes
that
we
also
attempt
to
collect
data
on
the
use
of
the
public
restroom
by
providing
a
textable
survey
that
anybody
who
is
utilizing
the
restroom
can
submit
information
on
the
benefit
of
this
is
to
see
if,
in
the
future,
the
city
would
ever
like
to
explore
a
permanent
outdoor
restroom,
which
are
much
more
expensive
to
have
some
data
available
to
where
there
was
the
highest
use
or
what
public
comments
were
regarding
the
need.
B
So
this
application
is
scalable
and
flexible
in
many
kinds
of
ways,
including
whether
or
not
you'd
like
to
move
see
the
public
restroom
move
to
different
sites,
each
quarter
or
stay
in
one
place.
The
type
of
public
rest,
restroom
and
so
on.
I
have
reached
out
to
one
thing
that
would
be
needed
is
for
there
to
be
a
public,
I'm
sorry,
a
project
sponsor,
so
I've
reached
out
to
at
least
one
the
dia
per
guidance
from
ni
they've
indicated
some
interest,
and
we
can
explore
that.
B
The
city
could
also
be
a
project
sponsor
or
we
could
explore
further
public
sponsors
and
I'm
now
available
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
it's
very
thorough
and
you
seem
to
anticipate
a
lot
of
the
questions
in
your
presentation.
I
I
will
say
that
I
both
like
it
and
I
think
the
experience
from
the
farmers
market
for
several
years,
where
city
actually
helped
them
do
these
portable
sanitation
stations.
C
I
I
do
have
a
question
anissa.
We
you
spoke
of
public
sponsors.
Could
you
talk
about
what
that
role
would
entail?
So
is
it
sharing
the
funding,
for
example,.
B
So,
in
this
case
I
mean
it
can
work
a
couple
of
different
ways,
depending
on
what
guidance
you
would
like
to
see.
The
covet
specific
funding
is
really
only
available
to
projects
that
medical
bid
need
and,
as
such,
we've
structured
our
applications
to
in
a
different
way
than
most
of
our
other
applications
we're
not
necessarily
looking
for
match
funding.
B
However,
there
has
been
some
comment
from
committee
members
and
others
that
they
would
like
to
see
another
entity
in
the
community,
perhaps
your
costs
and
or
share
oversight
or
take
on
oversight,
because
there
has
been
a
lot
of
discussion
of
this
type
of
project
and
especially
committee
members
from
neighborhood
investment
really
want
to
see
it
be
successful
by
having
daily
check-ins
to
see
you
know
if
there
are
any
problems
with
the
restroom
make
sure
it's
in
a
secure
and
safe
environment,
possibly
lock
it
during
certain
hours
and
so
on.
B
So
to
do
that,
we
would
need
a
sponsor
who
has
the
capacity
to
provide
all
of
that,
so
one
possibility
is
providing
additional
funds.
Another
possibility
is
providing
the
in-kind
resources
to
do
that.
So
that's,
but
in
any
event,
to
implement
the
program
ira
itself
does
not
have
the
capacity
to
implement
programs
such
as
these.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
identify
a
project
sponsor.
A
B
I
reached
out
to
them
and
the
and
I
have
an
email
that
I
haven't
read
this
morning
in
my
inbox.
I
think
they
got
back
to
me
yesterday
last
night,
so
it
sounds
like
there
might
be
some
interest
there
that
we
can
set
up
a
discussion.
I
outline
the
project
to
them
and
let
them
know
what
we
would
be
looking
for.
So
I
think
that
they
I
I
know
that
they're
interested
in
perhaps
seeing
this
type
of
service.
B
B
You
know
just
that.
I
think
that
you
know
it.
This
does
provide
a
unique
opportunity
for
us
to
try
something
that
our
city
currently
doesn't
have,
which
is
a
public
restroom,
that's
available
to
anyone
who's
downtown.
The
primary
target
population
would
be
people
experiencing
homelessness,
but
there
this
would
really
be
open
to
anybody
there's
no
way
to,
and
nor
will
we
want
to
stop
people
who
need
to
use
this
resource.
B
We
feel
like
this
could
help
the
city
during
a
difficult
time
by
providing
this
additional
resource
so
that
the
department
of
public
works,
crews
can
just
focus,
hopefully
their
efforts
on
one
area
if
they
need
to
do
that.
So
I
think
it
meets
a
number
of
different
needs
and
we
are
open
to
hearing
more
more
guidance
from
you
or
any
other
stakeholders
during
this
process.
A
Thank
you,
yeah,
and
it
just
strikes
me
that
frontera
mcbride
was
trans
activist
was
explaining
why
the
battle
over
bathrooms
was
so
pitched
and
she
drew
this
stark
line
back
to
the
civil
rights
battles
for
black
americans
in
the
60s,
which
is
that
the
surest
way
to
exclude
somebody
from
public
life
is
to
make
sure
they
don't
have
a
place
to
use
the
restroom
public.
That's
the
surefirest
way
to
make
sure
they
can't
come
to
protests,
concerts,
outings,
festivals
and
so
yeah.
B
Yes,
on
that
now
two
things:
you
know
this
really
does
meet
a
basic
human
need.
People
can't
avoid
the
need
to
you,
know,
relieve
themselves
and
so
having
a
decent
place
to
do
so
and
sanitize
after
is
very
important.
Also,
I
will
say,
I
have
received
prior
to
covert.
I
had
received
a
call
at
the
office
from
a
person
who
did
want
to
come
to
ithaca
for
a
festival
used
a
wheelchair
and
at
that
time
was
not
able
to
locate
a
restroom
that
was
ada
compliant.
B
I
do
know
that,
in
speaking
with
the
commons
maintenance
supervisor,
that
they
have
placed
ada
compliant
portable
restrooms
on
the
commons
during
festivals,
so
this
may
have
been
a
time
that
it
was
either
a
festival
not
on
the
commons
or
before
that
activity
happen.
But
we
have
received
comments
in
the
past
from
at
least
one
person
who
needed
a
public
restroom
to
be
ada
compliant.
B
Thank
you
and
I
see
that
roy
murdoch
did
he
enter
the
room,
so
I
believe
he's
here
now.
Yes,.
N
N
Oh
we're
starting
okay.
I
I
hope
that
chris
teitelbaum,
who
is
our
program
supervisor,
could
be
here
as
well.
In
fact,
he
may
be
attempting
to
join
us.
I
I
think
our
time
was
at
10
42
or
something
like
that,
but
I'm
right
here,
chris
right
there
I
see
him
okay,
but
yeah
I'm
ready
to
go.
So.
N
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
and
in
considering
this,
the
proposal
that
I
had
submitted
is
for
an
upgrade
to
the
heating,
ventilating
and
air
conditioning
system
at
618
west
state,
which
is
the
building
that
currently
houses
the
the
homeless,
shelter
in
tompkins
county.
It
also
is
the
place
where
we
provide
food
pantry
services.
N
We
have
a
third
floor
which
provides
a
low
rent,
low
barrier
single
room
units
for
housing.
We
also
have
a
friendship
center,
so
in
all
of
the
work
that
we
do
is
sort
of
coordinated
through
the
friendship
center.
N
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
sort
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
numbers
and
the
number
of
people
that
we
have
seen
in
the
friendship
center
and
in
the
shelter
over
the
during
the
course
of
2020,
and
then
talk
about
the
hvac
system
and
why
this
upgrade
would
be
beneficial.
N
So
last
year
in
2020,
the
shelter
provided.
N
Emergency
housing
for
552,
unique
individuals
that
includes
all
people
that
are
were
in
shelter
last
year.
It
was
a
total
of
about
25,
000
bed
nights.
N
N
However,
all
of
them
have
access
to
the
friendship,
center
and
618
west
state
street
on
a
daily
basis
in
shelter
in
the
actual
building.
We
actually
it's
a
20
bed,
shelter,
which
was
reduced
to
10
beds.
Due
to
covid,
we
have
a
food
pantry,
which
is
provides
about
1
000
meals
per
month
to
an
average
of
100
to
110
unique
individuals
per
month.
N
The
friendship
center
is
a
place
where
we
all
the
way
that
we
provide
our
services
has
changed
dramatically
due
to
bovid.
However,
we
have
figured
out
a
way
to
provide
all
of
the
services
that
we
have
always
provided.
We
just
do
it
in
a
different
way.
The
services
we
provide
through
the
friendship
center
include
showers.
If
someone
needs
to
take
a
shower.
People
from
the
unsheltered
encampment
use
the
friendship
center
regularly
for
showers.
They
use
the
bathrooms.
N
N
We
provide
lunches
anywhere
from
15
to
20
lunches
at
the
friendship
center
each
and
every
day,
in
addition
to
the
over
100
lunches
that
we
provide
and
sort
of
coordinate
with
loaves
and
fishes
for
everyone
who
is
homeless,
including
those
that
are
unsheltered
as
well.
So
the
the
the
friendship
center
gets
a
lot
of
business,
a
lot
of
traction,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
go
through
there
on
a
daily
basis
to
access
the
services
that
we
provide,
including
we.
N
We
also
provide
housing
assistance
through
our
caseworkers
as
well,
so
so
lots
of
traffic
lots
of
people
coming
in
in
and
out
of
building
on
a
regular
basis,
the
currently
the
the
system,
it's
three
floors
and
the
heating
ventilating
and
air
conditioning
system.
There
is
one
unit
on
each
floor
and
they
operate
independently
of
one
another.
N
They
also
operate
on
100
return
air,
so
that
is,
that
is
to
say
that
all
of
the
air
that
is
during
during
both
the
cooling
and
heating
system
that
is
circulated
throughout
the
friendship
center
is,
is
recirculated
error.
I
had
the
idea
a
long
time
ago
and
thought
it
would
be
a
great
idea
if
we
could
somehow
introduce
fresh
air
into
the
system,
which
is
the
the
thing
that
sort
of
prompted
this
proposal.
N
N
We
would
duct
into
the
system
fresh
air
25
make
fresh
air
which
is
meets
the
requirements
of
the
health
department
for,
for
example,
to
reopen
public
gyms,
for
example,
there's
a
checklist
that
they
have
to
go
through
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
health
department,
one
of
which
is
a
25
percent
reintroduction
or
introduction
of
fresh
air
to
the
system.
N
N
So
within
the
system
a
place
where
the
return
air
mixes
with
the
fresh
air,
all
the
air
would
go
through
ultraviolet
rays,
which
actually
kills
many
pathogens,
including
the
corona
virus,
covid19
the
common
cold
virus.
It
reduces
air
pollution,
pollutants
reduces
odors
through
from
vocs
smoke
and
mold
and
kills
bacteria
as
well.
N
So
the
idea
is
that
the
air
in
the
not
not
just
the
friendship
center
but
in
the
entire
building
would
be
there
would
be
an
introduction
of
fresh
air
that
air
would
mix
with
return
air
that
would
be
cleaned
through
ultraviolet
technology
and
provide
a
safer
environment
for
all
inhabitants
of
618
west
state
street.
N
There
were
some
questions
as
to
whether
or
not
some
changes
would
be
made
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
this
would
reduce
the
need
for
social
distancing
to
less
than
six
feet,
and
the
only
thing
I
can
say
to
that
is
that
we
would,
with
only
with
recommendations
from
the
health
department
as
to
any
reduction
in
social
distancing
requirements,
but
it
would
for
sure,
given
the
population
that
we
who
are
not
always
the
best
rule,
it's
a
constant
battle
to
have
people
keep
their
masks
on,
and
so
this
would
sort
of
make
the
environment
safer.
N
While
we
continue
our
quest
to
social
distance
and
and
make
the
environment
a
safe,
clean
place
for
our
clientele
and
I'm
willing,
I
know
I
took
a
lot
of
time
there.
I
only
have
three
minutes
left,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
anyone
has.
C
I'll
ask
one
roy:
this
is
carl,
graham
hi
carol.
All
right,
the
saint
johns
does
not
own.
The
building
is
my
understanding
that
is
correct.
N
C
Right
has
the
landlord
well,
two
things:
has
the
landlord
one
agreed
to
this,
but
have
you
approached
the
landlord
about
doing
this?
This
renovation.
N
The
the
landlord
has
agreed
to
it,
but
is,
is
not
willing
to
provide
the
funding
available
to
make
the
improvements.
C
I'm
sorry
I
actually
have
another
one
so
roy,
I
think
next
friday
or
april
1st,
if
that's
next
friday,
we'll
be
talking
with
you
again
about
your
proposal
for
another
site,
correct.
C
N
Right
so
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
there
obviously
and
the,
although,
as
most
of
you,
I'm
sure
are
aware
that
there's
a
need
for
a
larger
shelter
in
tompkins
county.
We
have
been
pursuing
that
and
when,
when
we
meet
next
week,
it
is
specifically
for
that
reason,
but
this
is
to
meet
the
immediate,
immediate
needs.
N
We
don't
foresee
that
we
would
be
moving
into
a
new
or
different
shelter
for
quite
some
time,
and
if
we
were
to
move
into
a
a
newer,
larger
shelter,
the
chances
are
pretty
good
that
we
would
continue
to
operate
this
site,
as
perhaps
still
as
the
friendship
center
and
or
as
extended
sro
housing
units.
F
N
We
could,
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
ordering
the
the
equipment
that
is
required.
I
spoke
with
a
contractor
recently,
who
would
be
willing
to
who
could
probably
begin
construction
within
weeks
once
if
the
go-ahead
is
given
that
the
project
is
approved,
we
could
probably
have
this
technology
installed
within
within
a
month.
A
Well,
thank
you.
Roy
and
yes,
we'll
see
you
next
thursday
for
our
april
1st
meeting.
A
Is
there
a
motion
to
pause
the
public
hearing?
Until
I
forgive
me,
we
posit,
we
suspend
it
well
intent
is
clear
motion
to
stop
having
this
public
hearing
and
then
start
having
another
one.
I
think.
H
A
C
Okay,
so
this
is
the
second
resolution:
you'll
find
it
on
page
14
of
our
of
our
packet.
C
This
resolution
has
to
do
with
the
acquisition
and
resale
of
324
west
buffalo
street
part
of
ithaca
neighborhood
housing's,
former
immaculate
conception
renovation
project.
I'd
like
to
move
this
for
the
purposes
of
our
discussion.
C
C
So
imhs
acquired
the
property
from
the
vast
diocese
of
of
rochester.
They
have
received
funding
for
the
development
of
the
affordable
housing
project.
C
It
would
allow
ithaca,
neighborhood
housing
to
continue
the
maintenance
on
that
building
and
it
would
bring
rental
income
into
the
agency.
So
it's
an
advantage
for
us.
C
Also
so
we're
asking
that
the
agency
approved
the
sale
or
the
purchase
rather
of
324
west
buffalo
street
and
then
sell
it
back
to
ithaca
neighborhood
housing
services
for
the
terms
listed.
D
I
Chris,
this
is
nils.
They
they
have
acquired
the
property
with
a
short-term
construction
loan,
and
now
they
need
to
repay
that
loan.
I
The
vast
majority
of
it
is
part
of
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
project
they
applied
for
funding
to
renovate
the
catholic
charities
building,
but
the
state
did
not
have
enough
funding
to
support
that,
so
it
got
pulled
out
of
the
project
and
they've
been
told
that
they
can't
be
included
in
the
project.
So
they
need
to
find
a
way
to
repay
that
acquisition
loan
and
they
don't
have
a
ready
source.
I
So
they
would
did
go
to
a
couple
lenders.
The
lenders
were
not
particularly
interested
in
in
that
small
piece
and
so
they've
come
and
discussed
it
with
the
ira.
I
G
D
C
G
Maybe
just
briefly
you
saw
in
your
packet,
I
think
that
we
have
issued
the
inlet
island
rfei
request
for
expressions
of
interest.
Those
are
due
on
april
7th
the
ed
committee
plans
to
meet
on
april
9th
to
kind
of
work
through
our
kind
of
process
and
criteria
for
considerations,
how
we're
going
to
sort
of
review
applicants,
and
I
suspect
that
process
will
happen
in
may,
we'll
look
at
who
comes
forward
last.
I
Just
at
those
two
in
terms
of
people
have
expressed
interest.
G
A
Thank
you,
then
any
report
from
any
staff
report.
It's
actually
not
on.
Oh
you're,
sorry,
I'm.
I
skipped
my
report.
I
don't
believe
I
have
any
report.
Laura
is
any
report
from
council,
I'm
kind
of
all
police
all
the
time.
F
Yeah
there's
a
lot
of
important
work
going
on
on
the
reimagining
public
safety.
I
did
want
to
mention,
though,
that
at
pedc
there
was
approval
for
the
cwg
cd2
funding
to
come
to
april
council
meeting.
That's
for
the
g,
ac
and
inhs.
I
believe.
F
Thank
you.
Community
outreach
worker
also
coming
to
the
april
council
meeting,
will
be
the
energy
code
supplement
and
just
a
quick
update
on
the
anti-displacement
work.
Anissa
and
carl
can
also
comment
on
this,
but
we
have
had
ongoing.
F
Team
meetings
core
group
meetings
on
this:
this
is
the
one
million
dollar
grant
that
has
been
awarded
and
we're
moving
forward
with
implementation
and
deployment
of
of
some
of
those
funds.
So
that's
very
exciting.
Work
there's
also
a
movement
on
another
funding
opportunity
disbursement
of
additional
funds,
so
there
will
be
more
information
coming
in
the
for
guaranteed
income,
guaranteed
basic
income
type
of
program,
and
he
said,
did
you
want
to
add
anything
on
that
adln
work.
B
Yeah,
that's
great
hsc.
The
project
sponsor
has
interviewed
and
was
extending
an
offer
for
the
first
staff
person
for
that
project.
So
they
should
know
by
the
end
of
this
week
whether
their
first
top
their
top
first
candidate
accepted.
A
Thank
you,
yeah.
We
are
getting
reports.
The
last
couple
days
that
cannabis
legalization
is
is
actually
going
to
happen.
It's
it's
been
moved.
A
It
was
likely
to
pass
in
the
governance
budget
they've
actually
now
moved
it
out
of
the
governor's
budget.
It
might
pass
it
even
speedier
than
that,
and
as
far
as
we
can
tell,
there
would
be
an
opt
out
for
municipalities
that
did
not
want
cannabis
dispensaries
in
the
community
and
likely
and
opt
in
this
part,
still
unclear
opt-in
for
municipalities
that
want
not
just
dispensaries
but
locations
where
people
can
use
cannabis
on
the
premises,
not
clear,
yet
what
the
tax
rate
will
be
set
at.
A
It
was
three
percent.
Last
year
we
were
pushing
for
higher
a
local
tax
of
four
percent
and
what
the
state
will
do
with
their
revenue.
That
has
been
the
big
hold
up
the
last
couple
years
about
whether
that
money
will
go
into
the
general
fund,
whether
it
will
go
into
social
equity
programming,
but
just
might
be
of
interest
for
the
agency
to
track.
As
I
wouldn't
doubt,
we
could
have
some
entrepreneurs
coming
forward.
Looking
for
support.
X
On
that
report,
were
you
saying
there'd
be
a
local
tax
as
well
yeah,
local
and
and
and
did
you
say
so?
We
know
that
about
the
debate
at
the
state
level,
about
where
the
revenue
how
the
revenues
might
be
direct.
I
know
that's
been
a
big
holding
a
good
source
of
contention
between
the
governor
and
the
legislature.
What
about
here?
What
what
you
may
have
said
it?
So
I
apologize
if
I
missed
this,
but
I
just
wanted.
I
was
just
curious.
X
You
know,
especially
with
evanston
illinois
being
in
the
news
and
their
decision
to
you
know
I
may
be
mistaken
about
that,
but
I,
but
I
know
that,
there's
some
ideas
of
using
this
kind
of
revenue
for
social
equity
or
racial
equity
and
in
some
cases,
in
the
form
of
reparations.
I
wondered
what
you
were
thinking
about
locally
or
the.
A
Council,
that's
an
interesting
question.
I
honestly
assumed
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
I
assumed
that
we
would
not
actually
be
able
to
break
out
the
sales
tax
from
because
they're
actually
pretty,
there's
a
word
for
it
that
steve
thayer
knows,
but
they
anonymize,
where
our
sales
tax
comes
from
in
order
to
protect
businesses,
so
that
nobody
knows
how
much
business
say.
A
Khalshan
bagels
is
doing
versus
starbucks,
so
we'll
just
get
those
payments
in
large
chunks
in
it
and
it's
never
clear
exactly
where
the
revenue
comes
from
we'll
just
get
like
a
quarter's
worth
of
payments
for
the
college
town
area
and
then
we'll
get
a
quarter
of
a
week
into
the
downtown
era.
I
had
assumed
right
up
until
this
moment
eric
until
you
asked
this
question,
that
that
would
also
be
the
case
for
any
cannabis
local
sales
tax
revenues
which
would
make
it
hard
to
do.
But
we
should
start
thinking
about
that.
A
Let
me
get
together
with
tom
knight
who,
on
our
staff,
has
been
tracking
this
legislation
to
figure
out,
because
I
agree
I
mean,
and
I
think
it
depends
to
what
the
state
does
with
their
revenue
if
they
decide
to
push
all
of
their
revenue
into
social
equity
programming.
Maybe
we
don't
have
to
do
that
with
ours,
but
maybe
we
want
to
anyway
I
mean
as
a
form
of
reparations,
for
you
know
a
wrong-headed
war
on
drugs
that
has
done
a
lot
of
damage
for
the
last
60
years.
50
years.
C
Yeah
I
had
that
that
same
question
that
eric
asked,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we,
if
we
are
unable
to
you,
know,
break
out
the
amount
of
money
that
will
come
from.
You
know
these
new
businesses.
Perhaps
we
could
support
some
effort
to
ensure
that
entrepreneurs
of
color
are
provided
the
the
business
training
or
the
opportunity
to
get
into
this
space.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
certainly
like
that,
and
that's
that
was
the
maybe
the
subtext
of
my
bringing
it
up
here
is
that
I
think
that
the
agency
might
be
the
right
place
to
to
do
that.
A
So
I
will
follow
up
with
tom
knight.
Maybe
we
could
actually
even
have
him
come
to
the
agency
next
week
to
see
if
a
report
would
be
useful.
A
Okay,
yeah
staff
report.
I
I
The
reason
why
that
issue
is
important
to
the
agency
is
that
our
hud
entitlement
status
is
premised
on
the
city
remaining
a
statistical
metropolitan
area,
so
we're
opposing
the
you
know.
The
city
has
opposed
the
change
to
redefine
how
msas
are
defined,
to
increase
the
population
of
the
urbanized
area
from
fifty
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand
there's
a
second
change
going
and
we've
received
very
strong
support
from
the
u.s
senators
representing
the
state
opposing
this
as
well.
I
So
the
campaign
has
seems
to
be
very
effective
in
terms
of
gaining
support
for
elected
officials
to
oppose
this
change
at
the
federal
level.
The
second
change-
that's
going
proposal
is
related
to
this
one,
which
is
got
a
submission
deadline
date
of
may,
and
that
would
change
the
way
that
the
census
bureau
defines
an
urban
area,
and
so,
if
we
don't
maintain
50
000
people
in
the
urbanized
area,
we
wouldn't
be
eligible
for
the
cdbg
program
under
current
rules.
I
So
that'll
be
another
definition
or
a
comment
that
I
expect
we'll
want
to
weigh
in
on
so
we're
tracking
that
issue,
because
it
has
major
impacts
on
our
funding.
The
second
item:
there
is
a
good
news
story
about
the
american
rescue
plan
in
which
there
is
funding
being
set
aside
for
the
home
program
and
they're
expanding
the
rules
for
use
of
the
home
program.
I
Normally,
the
home
program
is
only
available
for
permanent
housing
or
transitional
housing,
but
not
for
emergency
shelters,
and
this
in
this
case
they're
making
the
flooding
available
for
conversions,
of
hotels
to
emergency
shelters
with
possible
permanent
housing
uses
included
in
that
project.
So
we
don't
know
much
about
those
those
rules,
but
it
looks
like
we're
projecting
about
1.2
million
dollars
being
awarded
to
the
city.
I
just
want
to
keep
you
aware
of
those
potential
resources.
A
Great
yeah,
great
news,
all
around
I,
the
the
day
we
sent
a
letter
nell
submitted
a
letter
on
our
behalf.
The
senator's
office
called
me
asking
if
I
provided
a
supportive
quote
about
the
you
know
opposing
the
the
new
calculation-
and
I
was
like
funny,
you
should
say
so.
A
whole
bunch
of
quotes
are
headed
by.
A
Great
okay,
great
any
signing
report.
I.