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C
Getting
I
hear,
anissa
and
laura
tell
me
that
we're
getting
great
signups
for
the
guaranteed
income
program.
D
Yeah
we
have
a
meeting
later
today
with
mgi
to
find
out
what
the
most
current
numbers
are.
Yesterday
morning
we
were
still
below
300
completed
applications,
which
I
was
hoping
for
a
little
more,
but
there
were
still
above
300
incomplete
applications
in
the
pipeline.
So
for
those
that
don't
know
you
can
sign
on
and
initiate
your
application,
save
it
for
later
go
back
work
on
it
intermittently.
If
you
want
to,
we
just
really
want
to
encourage
people
to
finish
their
application
sooner
rather
than
later
in
case.
There's
any
snags.
D
B
Great
yeah-
that
was
an
item
on
my
liaison
report
too,
to
encourage
this
group
to
promote
the
ithaca
guaranteed
income
program
as
widely
as
possible,
because
the
application
window
is
so
brief.
It,
the
application,
will
close
friday
at
11
59
p.m.
At
midnight,.
B
B
For
at
least
350
400
applications
because
remember,
there's
the
110
group
of
110
residents,
who
will
be
selected
for
the
guaranteed
income
cash
award
and
then
an
equal
number,
if
not
a
larger
number
in
the
control
group.
This
is
a
pilot
project.
It
is
a
research
project
and
there
therefore
must
be
a
control
group,
so
we
really
need
a
healthy
applicant
pool
and
participants
will
be
randomly
selected.
B
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
and
we've
been
promoting
it
as
widely
as
possible,
including
putting
up
hard
copy
flyers
in
various
places.
Key
places
around
town.
C
Thanks
sorry,
I'd
jump
ahead
to
report.
It's
just
so
interesting,
very
exciting.
Any
any
agenda
changes
nope,
seeing
none
any
public
comment.
A
C
Thank
you
tracy
there,
a
second
second
by
chris,
all
those
in
favor
of
approving
the
minute,
okay
and
that
carries
unanimously.
Next
is
the
ed
committee
and
buffalo
street
cooperative.
F
Thanks,
I
was
just
trying
to
find
it
in
the
agenda
packet
online
one
second,
so
we
met
this
past
week.
I
think,
if
you
can
recall
from
an
earlier
meeting,
we
have
been
in
ongoing
discussions
with
the
leadership
of
buffalo
street
books
cooperative
about
their
interest
and
strategy
to
try
to
pivot
their
business
model
to
be
broader
than
just
the
retail
operation
that
they
have
on
buffalo
street.
In
order
to
provide
you
know,
long-term
financial
sustainability.
F
You
might
remember
that
they
came
to
us
in
last
year's
funding
round,
looking
for
some
support
out
of
that
out
of
the
plan,
and
we
all
agreed
that
perhaps
their
proposal
at
the
time
wasn't
quite
ready
for
funding
from
the
iora
using
cdbg
funds,
and
we
encourage
them
to
come
back,
though
after
doing
some
additional
work,
so
they
met
with
us
in
the
ed
committee
in
our
october
meeting
and
partly
because
of
the
accelerated
timeline
for
this
year's,
putting
together
this
year's
annual
plan,
they
felt
that
they
were
probably
not
gonna,
be
ready
for
the
funding
request
for
this
round,
so
we're
likely
to
see
a
funding
request
for
a
subsequent
round.
F
So
we
had,
though,
also
been
talking
with
them
about
some
support
for
technical
assistance
that
might
allow
them
to
get
the
kind
of
expertise
that
they
need
to
sort
of
think
through
the
variety
of
scenarios
that
they're
looking
for
for
financial
sustainability
for
the
cooperative.
So
that's
what's
here
now,
so
they
then
spent
the
last
couple
of
months
seeking
out
an
appropriate
consultant.
F
As
you
can
see
in
the
packet
they
have
found.
One
in,
I
think
it's
called
seven
routes
and
are
requesting
technical
assistance
from
the
ira
in
the
sum
of
forty
four
hundred
dollars
to
engage
that
consultant
to
review.
Essentially
four
four
business
scenarios
that
they're
looking
at
to
diversify
their
income
streams
and
and
over
the
long
haul,
provide
the
financial
sustainability
that
they're
looking
for
and
what
we
know
is
a
very
difficult
market
to
operate
a
retail,
brick
and
mortar
bookshop
in
this
day
and
age.
F
So
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
with
them
on
tuesday,
at
the
ed
committee
meeting,
nothing
that
substantively
changes
this
resolution,
we
gave
them
some
suggestions
for
just
how
to
make
sure
that
they
were
structuring
the
agreement
with
seven
routes.
To
get
maximum
amount
of
the
deliverables
that
they
are
expecting
out.
D
F
That
and
they
of
course,
have
agreed
they're
gonna,
you
know,
be
sharing
the
outcomes
of
that
consultancy
and
that
report,
not
only
with
the
ira,
but
of
course
you
know
their
broad
membership
and
so
on,
because
they
want
to
build
as
much
support
as
possible.
So
we
are
proposing.
Nels
is
proposing
to
use
funds
that
are
in
the
udag
account,
which
is
a
one
of
our
most
flexible
funding
sources.
F
So,
on
the
one
hand,
we're
conservative
with
how
we
spend
those
funds,
but
we're
only
drawing
4
400,
and
it
is
possible
that,
depending
on
what
the
outcome
of
this
is
and
where
they
need
additional
funding,
that
we
could
potentially
reimburse
the
4400
udag
account
from
the
cd
our
result
with
the
law.
Revolving
loan
account
at
some
point.
F
If
we
need
to
so,
you
should
assume
right
now
that
we're
taking
that
4400
out
of
that
account,
and
we
won't
get
it
back,
but
there
was
also
the
opportunity,
depending
on
how
they
proceed
and
how
we
structure
our
future
arrangement
with
them
that
we
might
be
able
to
kind
of
reimburse
ourselves
essentially
out
of
that,
I
think
that's
it.
F
It
was
well
supported
by
the
committee
unanimous
support
for
moving
this
proposal
forward
and
seems
like
a
very
modest
investment
to
try
to
retain
a
really
important
downtown
asset
and
job
retention.
So
now
is
anything
else.
C
F
F
I
think
I
mean
they're
they're
eager,
I
think
to
to
you
know
complete
this,
probably
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022,
because
it's
then
going
to
trigger
a
whole
bunch
of
other
strategic
planning
and
funding
requests
and
may
even
require
setting
up
a
not-for-profit
organization.
So
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
come
out
of
this,
so
I
suspect
you
know
and
4
400
frankly,
isn't
that
much
money.
So
it
can't
be
that
many
consultancy
hours.
So
I
can't
imagine
drawing
out
too
long.
But
sorry
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that.
C
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
there
was
an
email
traffic
last
night
from
nells,
and
I
so
apologies
if,
if
that
came
a
little
late
for
all
of
you,
let's,
so
let
me
just
sort
of
back
up
here
and
explain
as
best
I
can.
It's
so
finger
lakes
for
use.
F
Obviously,
a
long
time
partner
with
the
ira
was
requesting
additional
financial
assistance
for
the
purposes
of
job
retention,
essentially
to
help
bridge
them
through
a
you
know,
kind
of
what
is
a
challenging
period
that
you
know
everyone's
been
challenged,
obviously
by
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
and
they
are
trying
to
basically
respond
to
in
some
ways
a
good
thing,
which
is
this
just
massive
influx
of
materials.
I
mean
I,
I
forget
the
the
multitude
that
you
use,
but
there's
they've
had
a
significant
increase
in
the
amount
of
materials.
F
F
That
historically
was
a
mix
of
staff
and
volunteers
and
because
of
covert
protocols,
they
really
are
unable
to
use
or
or
have
seen,
a
dwindling
of
desire
by
the
on
the
part
of
volunteers.
So
they've
been
supplementing
that
with
staff,
which
is
undermining
their
financial
performance.
The
same
time
there's
been
changes
to
some
of
their
other
funding
support
and
that's
also
caused
a
strain
for
them.
F
They
have
not
spent
all
of
their
training
money
that
we
have
allocated
with
them
over
the
last
two
annual
plan
years,
because
all
the
other
obstacles
it's
been
difficult
to
actually
kind
of
focus
on
using
those
training
funds
and
doing
the
training
program.
So
part
of
their
request,
I
think,
is
to
reallocate
some
of
that
money
that
we
have
previously
allocated
for
training
to
job
retention,
but
they
would
like
additional
funds
so
they're
seeking
up
to
150
000,
which
would
retain
up
to
five
jobs.
I
think
those
are
the
basic
mechanics.
F
Yes,
that's
correct,
okay,
so
the
complexity
here
is
that
nels
and
the
staff
proposed
structuring
this
as
a
loan
to
finger
lakes
reuse
out
of
the
out
of
our
revolving
loan
fund,
so
that
we're
not
using
cdbg
funds
because
cdbg
funds
for
job
retention,
if
they
don't
meet
and
maintain
their
job
retention
goals,
puts
the
ira
at
risk
and
that's
because
they
are
a
nonprofit
organization
which
we
typically
can't
make
loans
to.
F
But
we
can,
if
we
structure
as
a
community
economic
development
project
which
we
believe
this
is
because
they
are
in
fact
a
cdbao
and
their
their
whole.
Business
is
a
community
economic
development
project,
as
nels
pointed
out
so
well.
In
his
memo
last
night,
the
committee
felt
hesitant
about
that
for
for
two
reasons
that
I
put
in
the
memo
last
night
and
a
third
that
I
realized
I
could
have
put
in
the
memo.
F
The
first
is
that
f
english
reuse
actually
doesn't
want
a
loan
right.
They
actually
want
to
grant
and
even
a
forgivable
loan
is
problematic
for
them
in
terms
of
their
balance
sheet
and
their
balance
sheet
isn't
included
in
your
materials.
So
you
can
see
it
and
we're
used
to
seeing
their
balance
sheet
right.
It's
always
a
bit
challenged.
F
The
second
is
that
you
know
our
loan
fund.
You
know
those
are
precious
resources
and
their
financial
projections
don't
show
them
really
adequately
producing
positive
cash
flow
from
operations
at
the
end
of
2022.
F
F
The
third
is
the
opportunity
cost
of
those
loan
funds
right,
so
those
loan
funds
are
precious
to
us
and-
and
I,
and
when
I
reflected
on
it
again
after
last
night,
it's
like
we
would
ideally
use
those
loan
funds
with
two
criteria
right
that
we
get
repaid
right
so
that
money
flows
back
into
loan
fund.
F
F
If
it's,
if
we
decide
to
do
it
as
a
forgivable
loan
and
for
job
retention
as
opposed
to
job
creation
or
or
the
starting
of
the
new
business,
so
I
think
that's
on
my
mind,
as
well
in
terms
of
you
know,
is
that
the
right
use
of
the
loan
funds
so,
and
and
and
and
lastly,
the
committee
was
just
also
constrained
for
time.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
complexity.
F
F
I
thought
it
was
important
to
discuss
it
here,
because,
ultimately,
this
group
is
going
to
have
to
kind
of
sign
off
on
whatever
we
do,
and
I
think
we
would
welcome
guidance
in
terms
of
the
relative
weighting
of
priorities
of
what
you'd
like
to
see
how
you'd
like
to
see
it
structured
if
you'd
like
to
see
a
structure
at
all
etc.
F
So
I
think
this
is
more
of
a
discussion
item
at
this
point
than
an
action
one
so
that
you
can
start
to
understand
the
complexity
of
what
we're
working
with
here,
but
also
that
you
know
you
can
kind
of
feed
into
to
nells.
And
I
around
what
you'd
like
us
to
kind
of
try
to
work
out
with
the
team
at
fingerling,
trees
and
again
I'll
check
with
nells.
If
he
wants
to
add
anything.
A
I
do
have
just
a
couple
of
points
here.
I
want
to
emphasize.
One
is
the
way
to
the
agency
can
do
this
because
low
economic
development
loans
to
non-for-profits
are
only
eligible
for
land
acquisition,
building
acquisition
or
construction
activities
and
finger
lakes
reuse.
This
proposal
for
use
of
funds
is
to
pay
for
salaries
to
retain
the
jobs.
So
it's
not
an
eligible
loan
activity,
but
it
is
an
eligible
cbdo
activity.
So,
just
like
we
do
the
job
training.
A
A
Secondly,
if
those
jobs
are
not
retained,
then
we
have
an
ineligible
activity
and
we
have
to
repay
the
money
back
to
hud
out
of
local
funds,
not
cdbg
funds,
some
city,
our
ira,
local
funds-
have
to
be
repaid
back.
So
the
risk
to
the
agency
really
is
that
the
jobs
will
not
be
retained,
in
which
case
we
would
have
to
repay
the
hud
entitlement
program
back
with
local
funds.
That's
why
we're
restructuring.
I
would
suggest
instruction
is
a
loan.
Ideally,
we
would
have
collateral,
but
finger
lakes.
A
Reuses
prior
loans
for
acquisition
of
the
property
prohibit
any
additional.
They
have
liens
on
everything
already
and
the
lender
will
not
allow
any
second
ordinary
liens.
So
there
really
is
zero
collateral
on
this
and
then
the
question
you
know,
then
the
issue
is:
how
confident
are
we
are
that
those
jobs
would
be
retained,
has
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
to
show
that
they're
sustainable.
A
So
I
think
that's
one,
that
those
are
the
two
points
one
is
we'd
have
to
go
through
a
reprogramming
process
to
take
monies
that
were
prior
job
training
funds
and
then,
if
we
go
for
the
full
150,
some
of
the
ed
loan
funds
and
reprogram
them
into
a
new
project
called
a
cbdo
activity
for
an
economic
development.
A
community
economic
development
project
and
bring
that
to
both
the
common
council
would
have
to
approve
that
action.
D
A
A
mechanical
issue
that
has
to
go
forward
if
you
want
to
proceed
in
terms
of
public
public
hearing
and
common
council
approval
and
then
there's
the
risk
issue
of
what
happens
if
the
jobs
are
not
retained.
A
A
A
So
we
were
that
was
one
of
the
discussion
points
of
what
would
be
the
appropriate
time
period
to
consider
the
job
fully
retained
and
sustainable
in
the
future.
I
had
suggested
six
quarters
or
a
year
and
a
half
but
finger
lakes.
Reuse
was
concerned
with
that,
because
that
keeps
the
their
balance
sheet,
showing
it
as
a
loan.
That's
you
know
due
and
payable.
If
they
don't
have
it.
You
know
at
that
point
in
time,
so
they
were
asking
for
the
shortest
possible
period.
F
And
and
maybe
one
other
point
partly
related
to
what
nelson
was
saying
and
then
partly
to
your
question
tracy
is
they
appear
to
be
currently
from
ronaldo's
kind
of
looking
overall
other
staffing
structures
and
efficiencies
of
which
this
is
part
of
it.
But
but
there
you
can't
like
pull
just
one
piece
out
right,
and
I
think
that
process
doesn't
sound
like
it's
completely
done,
and
so
it
was
also
difficult
for
us
to
ascertain
like
okay.
G
You
know,
aside
from
their
struggles
to
develop
a
business
model
like
just
putting
that
all
aside,
how
is
it
or
how
much
is
it
unusual,
or
is
it
unusual
the
way
you're?
Looking
at
this
in
relation
to
the
way
the
agency
normally
helps
people
obtain
funding
or
fill
gaps
is
the
way
you're
dealing
with
this
different
than
the
way
you
usually
deal
with.
Applicants
requests.
A
I
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
it's
it's
common
in
there's,
some
common
elements
about
it
and
there's
some
unique
elements
about
it.
I
mean:
we've
worked
with
not-for-profits
undertaking
economic
development
activities
and
finger
lakes.
Reuse
is
one
of
the
most
successful
of
you
know
supporting
their
operations
with
their
own
income,
whereas
a
lot
of
other
not-for-profits
don't
have
an
earned
income
component.
A
So
they
have
this
kind
of
hybrid
for-profit,
with
a
heavy
job
count,
and
that's
not-for-profit
mission
and
typically
a
job
retention
activity
coming
to
us
is
usually
more
structured
along
some
sort
of
overcoming
a
particular
barrier
or
obstacle
or
purchase
of
a
piece
of
equipment
for
sin
annapolis.
When
we
looked
at
job
retention,
it
was
getting
digital
camera.
You
know
digital
ability
to
produce
digital
films
and
project
those.
So
it's
purchase
of
equipment.
A
It's
not
that
common
that
it's
utilized
for
staff
salaries
because
oftentimes,
that's
not
you
know,
that's,
that's,
not
the
the
the
magic
that'll
make
it
sustainable
in
the
future,
but
in
this
case,
with
all
the
pandemic
issues
and
unique
challenges,
they're
making
the
argument
that
they
will
be
sustainable
file
following
you
know,
a
year's
worth
of
support
for
those
five
positions.
A
So
in
that
regard,
it's
it's
it's
unique,
but
it's
it's
not
it's
consistent
with
cdbg
regulations.
If
we
follow
the
pathways
we're
exploring.
C
Does
it
change,
I
I
guess
I
should
have
checked.
Did
everyone
else
get
an
email
from
diane
this
morning.
B
A
I
think
that
was
only
to
some
of
the
members
yeah
I
see
about.
C
Yeah,
it
was
about
the
warehouse
space
and
the
I
mean
to
me.
The
the
most
interesting
part
is
that
they're,
you
know
novar
and
for
dancing
are
said
to
demolish
11
buildings
in
college
now
and
novar's,
allowing
them
to
to
deconstruct
the
homes
and
to
take
all
of
that
material.
So
they
need
a
space
to
warehouse
it.
But
that
to
me
was
like,
oh
I
I
I
don't
know
that
seems
like
huge
for
them
an
enormous
influx
of
materials,
I
think
to
turn
around
and
and
resell.
C
F
And
I-
and
I
think
that
goes
to
like
lisa's
question
like-
and
this
is
what
was
so
hard
for
us
to
get
our
heads
around-
is-
they
are
essentially
somehow
a
victim
of
their
own
success
right.
So
the
combination
of
the
pandemic
and
and
the
success
they've
had
at
establishing
this
very
entrepreneurial
model
means
that
that
the
the
flow
of
stuff
coming
at
them
just
gets
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger,
and
this
collagen
project
is
just
the
latest.
F
You
know
it's
just
throwing
a
mountain
on
top
of
a
mountain
right,
but
but
it's
difficult
to
kind
of
tease
out
in
their
financials
to
nels's
point
like
what
part
of
how
can
we
look
at
just
the
operating
funds
of
the
retail
operations?
And
can
we
see
that
that's
actually
sustainable
versus
some
of
these
other
activities
that
they
also
conduct,
which
are
truly
more
like
traditional
nonprofit
activities
and
that's
very
kind
of
embedded
within,
and
so
I
think
to
nelson's
point.
F
Like
often,
an
organization
would
ideally
say
right
to
get
us
to
the
next
level
of
our
economic
development.
We
have
to
make
some
sort
of
capital
investment
right,
but
they're
not
asking
for
a
capital
investment
they're
asking
us
to
essentially
plug
a
hole
in
their
operating
costs,
which
is
the
result
of
some
level
of
inefficiency.
F
They
that's
related
to
somehow
related
to
their
growth.
But
it's
hard
to
know
that
that's
a
short-term
temporary
thing
that
can
be
solved
right
as
opposed
to
buying
digital
equipment
or
helping
to
buy
a
new
building
to
sell
more
stuff
or
whatever
like.
That
would
be
a
much
easier
thing
to
figure
out
right,
because
then
you
could
say:
oh
right,
make
that
capital
investment.
Allow
you
this
much
more
revenue
throughput
boom!
Here's
where
you'll
be
in
two
years.
E
I
wondered
they
were
talking
about.
It
was
talking
about
how
that
used
a
lot
of
volunteer
people
working
there,
and
I
wondered,
I
know
we're
still
pandemic,
but
I
wondered
whether
that
was
a
thought
about
coming
back.
Is
that
going
to
be
a
part
of
their
study
about
what
their
structure
should?
Look
like.
C
A
What
finger
lakes
reuse,
it
is,
is
examining
what
chris
alluded
to
in
terms
of
restructuring
and
trying
to
be
more
efficient
in
their
operations
was
focusing
on
that
that
volunteer
coordinator
position.
I
think
they
have
a
coordinator
position,
but
it's
one
of
them
at
risk.
I
think,
and
they
want
to,
they
want
to
kind
of
clarify
the
management
structure
and
in
terms
of
those
things
and
have
somebody
I
think
it
was
dedicated
to
the
volunteers
in
that
in
that
component
of
it.
B
Yeah
I
noticed
that
they've
also
received
their.
They
will
be
receiving
funding
from
the
county
to
complete
a
business
operations
assessment,
and
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
because
I
think
it
speaks
to
some
of
the
questions
that
others
are
are
asking.
Do
we
know
much
more
about
that?
It
says
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022,
but
any
other
details,
nells
or
chris.
That
you're
aware
of
with
that.
A
A
That's
funding
that
comes
through
the
tompkins
county
recycling
division
and
they
would
have
been
their
long
standing
partner
with
the
county,
but
due
to
the
change
in
the
recycling
market,
they
were
unable
to
continue
that
support.
They
provided
one
final
going
away
party
gift-
I
guess
of
of
here's
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
go
forward
without
the
support
of
the
recycling
division,
because
the
recycling
market
has
has
collapsed
so
much
in
the
last
two
years.
So
that's
that's
money.
A
That's
coming
forward
in
in
2020,
and
my
understanding
was
they're
trying
to
get
that
underway
in
the
first
quarter.
A
C
A
That
was
that
was
due
to
their
revenues,
generated
by
the
recycling
division
and
and
kind
of
in
recognition
of
the
diversion
of
waste
materials
away
from
landfills
that
finger
lakes,
reuse
was
doing.
My
understanding
is
a
county
has
now
provided
through
a
different
funding
source,
the
same
amount
of
funding
for
a
three
year
period,
again
beginning
in
2022.,
so
they
went
to
2021
without
that
funding,
and
now
in
2022
they
will
resume
that
that
same
level
of
funding,
support
from
the
county,
but
from
a
different
source
than
the
recycling
division.
C
G
So
I
just
want
to
comment
on
this
on.
You
know
the
email
that
they
sent
out
today
about
the
deconstruction
and
how
this
may
and
maybe
have
some
way.
We
can
weave
this
in
this
this
information
or
find
out
more
about
it.
So
you
know
this
is
the
deconstruction
on
college.
Ave
was
something
that
multiple
people
asked
for
the
community
wanted
people
you
know
and
the
and
the
owner.
You
know
it
was
too
expensive
for
a
regular
contractor
to
do
the
deconstruction.
G
It
wasn't
possible,
so
you
know
they
adjusted
their
schedule
so
that
reuse
could
come
in
and
do
this,
but
basically
it
was
the
only
option
for
deconstruction.
It
was
too
expensive
to
have
somebody
else.
Do
it
or
you
know
I
mean
you
could
dig
deeper
into
that,
but
I
don't
know
there's
that
that's
not
explicitly
stated
in
any
of
their.
You
know
that
they're
providing
a
service
that
is
not
doable
for
other
people
to
do.
I
don't
know
how
that
might
fit
into
this
discussion
or
their
strategy
for
funding
them.
E
C
That
was
they're
getting
yeah
that
they
email
and
it
was
sent
at
six
in
the
morning,
which
is
you
know
so
my
my
reading
comprehension
is
low
at
that
time
of
day,
but
they
were
actually
calling
for
help.
Apparently
they
have
green
stars
warehouse,
one
of
greenstar's,
warehouses
under
contract
and
they've
like
filled
it
up
already
with
just
the
flooring
material
that
they've
pulled
out
of
these
houses
there.
C
B
The
warehouses
are
on
the
d.o.t
site,
so
the
one
as
I
read
it
quickly
again
this
morning
at
like
6
30
50
100
square
foot,
warehouse,
one
of
the
dot
warehouses
is
already
full.
So
what
they're
looking
to
obtain
is
funding
at
36
000.
for
a
second
warehouse
which
is
4200
square
feet.
So
the
deconstruction
of
these
11
college
ave
homes
will
produce.
B
H
A
My
understanding
is
they're
not
being
paid
for
the
deconstruction
they're
working
with
a
cornell
class
and
it's
a
volunteer.
The
unions
are
pitching
in
to
do
some
volunteer
work,
don't
believe,
there's
any
cash
payment
to
to
finger
lakes
reuse
for
that
they.
What
they're
looking
for
is
harvesting
the
resellable
material
and
that's
the
value
they're,
also
working
with
historic
ithaca
and
giving
historic
ithaca
a
first
chance
to
get
the
really
nice
architectural
stuff,
apparently
a
chance
to
strip
that
out
and
bring
that
to
significant
elements.
A
That's
a
partnership
between
finger
lakes,
reuse
and
significant
elements.
That's
providing
that!
So!
There's
there's
there's
dual
benefit
there,
but
I
don't
believe:
there's
any
cash
payments
from
the
developer
to
because
there's
still
going
to
be
a
contractor
coming
in
to
demolish
any
buildings
that
are
not
totally
deconstructed.
There's.
H
A
H
B
Yeah
one
comment:
I
was
pleased
to
see
the
collaboration
with
local
labor
and
especially
the
development
of
apprenticeship,
furthering
apprenticeship
programs,
something
that
I
think
many
of
us
have
called
for
increased
apprenticeship
programs
throughout
the
city
I
was
did
have
a
question
kind
of
following
up
on
maybe
carl's
question
in
the
memo.
It
said
at
least
51
of
the
five
jobs
identified
are
held
by
low
mod
income
individuals,
and
I
I
guess
I
was
assuming
that
it
would
be
even
higher
than
51
percent
of
those
jobs
held
by
lmi
individuals.
A
Oh
okay,
glad
to
hear
it
wasn't
my
fault.
They
have
told
me
that
that
each
of
those
positions
is
held
by
a
low
moderate
income
person.
I
think
they
were
just
using
the
the
usual
language
that
they
have
encountered
with
cdbg,
which
which
requires
at
least
51
percent
of
the
jobs
in
a
in
a
job
creation
activity
to
be
held
by
low
moderate.
But
in
a
job
retention
activity
it
must
be
100.
C
E
I
I
had
a
question.
Another
question,
though,
is:
is
there
possibility
of
other
money
for
this,
like
not
our
money,
our
money
royal,
our
money,
but
through
the
county
or
any
other
donors,
or
what
paul
have
they
been
looking
at
those
two
for
this.
A
Yeah
else
they
are
looking
at
the
county's
funding
cycle
that
they've
intended
to
release
in
2022
for
american
recovery
funds.
A
Funds,
they
also
were
interested
in
applying
to
the
city,
for
if,
if
the
city
is
making
any
arpa
funds
available
for
the
community
for
community,
not
for
profits,
so
there
they
plan
to
seek
out
those
opportunities.
They
have
had
discussions
with
the
county
about.
H
A
They've
also
reached
out
to
not-for-profits,
I
mean
I
mean
philanthropies
local
philanthropies,.
H
Yeah,
I'm
leaning
also
towards
risking
it
it's
the
way
I
read
the
memo
is
that
sales
have
been
increasing
and
are
projected
to
continue
to
increase
and
that
these
five
positions
are
really
essential
to
processing
the
materials
so
that
sales
can
continue
to
increase.
We.
H
We
know
that,
from
from
previous
requests
from
from
reuse,
that
they
walk
a
fine
line.
H
But
I
think
that
the
risk
is
relatively
low
to
the
agency.
I
I
think
it's
it's
important
that
the
committee,
the
ed
committee,
decided
to
give
us
some
more
time
to
allow
reuse
to
to
think
about
this
to
more
and
allow
us
to
think
about
it.
Some
more,
but
you
know,
of
course,
we'll
defer
to
staff
and
and
what
staff
think
is,
is
the
safest
for
the
agency
and
then
we
need
to
do
that.
H
But
I
think,
as
of
now,
I
think
we
should
go
with
the
the
entire
amount
of
150
and
structure
it
as
originally
proposed.
E
F
All
right,
so
I
I
might
be
the
most
pessimistic
one
here
then
so
that's
okay,
that
will
hopefully
be
a
useful
check
and
balance
on
the
next
conversation.
You
know
I
would
just
like
to
really
understand
from
them.
F
Yes
to
carl's
point,
we
they've
always
been
walking
a
fine
line
and
we've
always
been
a
useful
partner.
I
think
in
helping
them
kind
of
get
to
the
next
level
of
growth
right,
and
I
think
therefore
there's
a.
I
think
we
have
a
very
long-term
interest
in
helping
them
kind
of
get
through
this
pinch
point
than
they're
in,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
in
any
way
discount
that.
F
But
at
a
certain
point
like
we
have
to
be
able
to
help
help
them
understand
where
they
are
actually
chasing
their
tail,
because
if
people
are
donating
materials
to
them
that
they
are
then
reselling
to
the
community
at
an
increasing
rate,
but
their
operating
costs
are
increasing
faster
than
what
they're
getting
for
revenue,
and
then
that
is
not
sustainable
right.
Eventually,
it
catches
up
to
them
right
so,
and
I
understand
they
do
a
whole
slew
of
other
activities
which
are
supported
by
us
and
by
supported
by
other
not-for-profit
funders
to
close
gaps
on
other
things.
F
In
terms
of
you
know,
some
of
the
other
pieces
that
they've
got
going
on
there
right,
but
the
core
of
receiving
materials
turning
those
materials
around
and
selling
those
to
the
public
should
fundamentally
be
a
source
of
positive
net
income
and
if
we
need
to
help
them
with
a
bridge
to
help
them
get
there,
then
that's
great.
If
all
we're
doing
is
putting
something
in
place
so
that
in
2023
we're
filling
another
that
we're
filling
the
same
gap
again,
but
it's
gotten
bigger.
F
E
Whether
it's
a
pinch
point
or
whether
it's
a
permanent
pinch
right
yeah,
I
see
what
you're
saying
about
that
too,
and
I
and
that
gets
back
to
my
question
about
the
volunteer
business
again
because
it
sounds
like
there
was
a
lot
of
work
being
performed
by
volunteers
there,
and-
and
so,
if
you
make
all
those
positions
permanent
or
a
significant
number
of
them,
you
really
changed
the
whole
income
structure
and
then
with
the
loss
of
the
county
funding
through
the
recycling.
A
Where
they
did
not
have
two
years
of
ppp
funding,
which
I
think
this
year
was
over
200
thousand
dollars.
C
Everybody
thanks
chris
appreciate
it
yeah
anything
else
from
edie.
F
Really
just
quickly
on
our
ongoing
discussions
around
the
inlet
island
redevelopment
project,
we
had
a
discussion
at
this
month's
meeting
with
the
development
team
looking
at
their
options
for
activation,
in
light
of
the
request
from
common
council
to
see
a
greater
activation
that
would
drive
both
residents
and
visitors
to
inlet
island,
ideally
annual
around
the
entire
annual
calendar,
but
certainly
at
least
in
the
warm
weather
months,
nine
months
out
of
the
year.
So
we
had
a
good
discussion.
They've
made
some
changes
and
recommendations
for
changing
traffic
flow.
F
Essentially,
that
is
not
on
the
development
site
and
ways
in
which
to
integrate
the
components
that
they're
proposing
around
activation,
that
where
the
with
the
the
sum
would
be
greater
than
the
parts,
so
they
had
kind
of
like
shown
us
all
different
parts,
and
I
think
the
feedback
from
the
committee
was
you're
missing,
something
by
not
showing
how
all
of
these
components
of,
in
mixed
indoor,
outdoor
space
and
public
gathering
space
and
the
ability
to
have
you
know
small
to
medium-sized
events
down
there.
F
The
connection
to
the
ability
to
have
additional
places
to
access
the
water
and
put
you
know,
watercraft
into
the
water
et
cetera
that
and
the
kind
of
reef
designed
flow
that
they
have
in
terms
of
how
pedestrians
and
bikes
and
cars
would
all
navigate
the
island
that
all
of
that
still
needs
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
integration
to
really
kind
of
be
a
strong
point,
but
I
think
they're
making
progress.
I
think
they
are
firmly
committed
to
what
common
council
is
looking
for
in
terms
of
activated
use
of
the
island.
F
A
Well,
I
think
that's
that
covers
well
the
discussion
we
had.
I
am
meeting
with
both
the
principals
of
the
development
team
in
a
week
to
just
hammer
out
the
final
details
on
the
exclusive
negotiating
agreement
that
has
been
reviewed
and
approved
by
ira
legal
counsel,
but
they
have
a
few
clarifications,
they're
going
to
seek
and
then
we'll
be
under
contract.
C
Thank
you.
Next
is
the
neighborhood
investment
committee.
H
And
this
was
a
contract
extension
for
the
salvation
army's
cdbg
cb
emergency
assistance.
Programs
was
part
of
the
2019
action
plan
for
the
city
we
awarded
salvation
and
army
20
000
for
a
coveted,
19
emergency
assistance
program,
and
that
was
to
provide
mortgage
assistance
for
four
low,
moderate
income
homeowners
who
suffered
from
the
results
of
the
pandemic.
H
This
was
a
new
area
of
assistance
for
the
salvation
army
and
there
were
some
delays
you
will
remember.
Last
month
we
talked
about
some
other
projects
that
have
been
funded,
that
suffered
delays
because
of
the
pandemic
stimulus
payments,
reduce
the
need
for
some
of
the
the
assistance
from
the
from
our
agencies,
and
some
of
the
same
things
happen
with
the
salvation
army
and,
as
we
mentioned
I
think,
last
month.
One
other
delay
was
that
the
salvation
army
had
to
get
approval
of
the
contract
and
the
the
plan
from
their
national
leadership.
H
So
that
has
occurred.
The
salvation
army
is
working
with
one
family
and
has
hired
an
outreach
person
to
to
market
the
plan
to
reach
out
to
local,
not
other
local.
Not-For-Profit
agencies
try
to
get
more
homeowners
involved
in
this
project,
so
they
are
hopeful
that
they'll
be
able
to
meet
their
goals.
We
met
with
the
one
of
the
leaders
of
the
local
salvation
army
at
our
meeting
last
month
and
the
committee
was
satisfied
that
they
are
taking
the
correct
steps
to
to
meet
this
the
project
goals.
H
C
G
C
B
Yeah
carl,
do
you
mind
just
reminding
me
is:
are
all
of
these
awards
to
be
five
thousand
dollars?
Is
that
the
amount
that
this
one
homeowner
will
be
receiving
five
thousand
dollars
toward
mortgage
assistance?.
H
You
know
I
don't
remember
if
there
was
a
it
was
divided
evenly.
My
memory
is,
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
I'm
wrong,
tracy
or
nails
is
that
the
systems
would
depend
on
the
needs
of
each
homeowner,
but
it
may
have
been
divided
evenly.
C
D
B
And
and
then,
if
I
may,
it's
good
to
hear
that
they're
working
with
an
outreach
worker
to
promote
the
program,
how
confident
do
you
believe
that
may
28th
deadline
is,
I
understand
that
they
will
either
expend
or
return
the
funds
if
this
extension
is
approved?
But
how
confident
does
it
s?
How
much
confidence
is
there
in
them
meeting
that
deadline?
B
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
staff
opinion
is
is
very
important.
If
you're
asking
me
laura
it's
who
knows,
I
think
that
they
are
taking
the
correct
steps.
Yes,
but
it's
not
just
on
the
salvation
army.
You
know
we're
we're
seeing
a
surge,
we
don't
know
a
cobot
surge.
Currently
we
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
impact
homeowners.
We
don't
you
know
we
there's
just
too
many
unknowns
to
know
if
a
six-month
extension
is
is
going
to
be
is
going
to
allow
them
to
complete
this
project,
but
anissa.
D
Untrue,
but
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
I
think
we've
seen
that
this
is
the
first
time
that
at
least
this
leadership,
the
local
leadership
of
salvation
army
has
applied
for
our
hud
entitlement
funds,
and
I
think,
we've
seen
it's
been
kind
of
a
heavy
lift
for
them.
You
know
getting
it
through
their
chain,
but
also
understanding
you
know
the
regulations
and
so
on.
This
is
not
uncommon
for
a
first-time
applicant.
D
However,
you
know
so
that
said,
you
know,
I
think
I
think
they've
had
some
very
definite
startup
abilities.
I
think
they
feel
you
know
somewhat
ready
going
forward.
They've
indicated
that
you
know
because
of
the
holiday
season
when
they
do
a
lot.
They
they
have
a
lot
of
community
members
in
during
the
holiday
season
for
their
various.
D
You
know,
donations
that
they
distribute
and
so
on.
They
feel
that
that
is
a
that
will
be
a
good
time
for
them
to
kind
of
do
outreach
among
folks
that
are
coming
in
to
try
to
engage
people.
I've
reminded
them
that,
as
part
of
their
contract,
they
also
need
to
look
outside
of
salvation
army
and
they
are
working
with
inhs.
D
To
do
that,
they
have
approached
you
know
some
local
lenders,
and
you
know
I
think,
we're
a
little
bit
surprised
that
the
local
lenders
did
not
we're
not
able
to
maybe
connect
them
with
somebody
in
need.
D
So
in
terms
of
confidence,
I
I
mean,
I
would
say
perhaps
a
medium
level,
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
thinking
that
you
know
the
extension
was
set
until
the
end
of
may
is
one
that
they
indicated
that
they
thought
they
could
do
it
by
then,
but
two.
If
they
are
unable
to
do
it,
these
cv
funds
could
be
reprogrammed,
we'd
still
have
time
to
reprogram
them
toward
another
activity,
and
perhaps
you
know
there,
there
are
some
other
things
happening
in
the
community.
D
You
know
about
the
arp
funds,
things
like
that,
certainly
with
omicron
there's
a
lot
of
relevance.
If
some
you
know
somebody
steps
forward
and
has
an
idea
related
to
prevention
or
something
related
to
the
you
know
kind
of
the
rise
of
omicron.
D
So
I
think,
if
if
by
may
they're
unable
to
reach
people,
I
think
that
there
will
be
some
viable
opportunities
in
the
community
to
re
reprogram
those
funds
for
good
use.
I
recognize,
however,
that
this
board
was
very,
very
interested
and
committed
to
trying
to
assist
homeowners,
and
that
has
been
difficult
until
now.
H
D
I
believe
it's
I
don't
know
why.
I
want
to
say
september,
but
september.
30Th
2024
is
my
recollection,
because
it's
such
an
odd
date.
They
usually
we
usually
have
you
know
yeah
september.
30Th
is
kind
of
weird,
but
I
think
cdbg
cb
funds
are,
you
know,
are
active
until
that
date.
Now
else,
do
you
have
a
different
recollection.
A
F
F
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're,
actually
you
know
doing
our
best
to
make
sure
that
those
monies
are
actually
solving
that
problem,
and
I
would
hate
to
be
really
pinched
for
time
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
I
guess,
if
there's
two
years
after
may
then
giving
you
know
salvation
every
six
more
months
to
really
try
to
identify
the
homeowners.
F
A
Yeah
no
yeah
yeah.
I
think
that
was
staff's.
View
too,
is
that
they
have
not
been
able
to
expend
any
funds.
You
know
to
date
on
this
project
and
that
you
know
homeowner
assistance,
one
of
those
areas
that
really
didn't
have
any
federal
funds
associated
with
it
to
assist
homeowners.
A
The
new
wrinkle
here
is
that
the
state
has
just
announced
a
homeowner
assistance
fund.
You
may
have
seen
the
press
press
information
on
it,
there's
over
500
million
dollars
for
new
york,
state
homeowners
who
are
facing
eviction
or
mortgage
problems
or
need
to
arrears
on
property
taxes
or
sewer
and
water
fees.
So
the
interesting
piece
here
I
think
going
forward
is:
does
this
somehow
do
they
overlap
and
and
are
they
redundant
these
two
programs,
one
which
is
much
larger
at
the
state
level
or
or
do
they
somehow
complement
each
other?
A
And
is
there
a
way
that
you
know?
Maybe
it
provides
some
advantages?
I
think
that
will
the
state's
program
is
gonna
act
as
a
big
marketing
tool
for
for
these
issues
coming
forward
for
people
reaching
out
for
assistance.
Now
they
see
that
there's
a
larger
program
so
that
might
work
to
the
advantage.
But
realistically
you
know
extending
this
to
the
end
of
of
may
is
kind
of
in
a
time
frame
that
we
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
work
much
quicker
anyway.
A
If
we're
looking
for
new
uses,
a
lot
of
the
ideas
for
projects
come
forward
through
the
annual
action
plan,
you
know
process
of
proposals
coming
in
and
those
if
we
found
one
that
was
a
strong
and
eligible
use.
We
could
we
could
line
that
up
in
the
event
that
the
salvation
army
project
doesn't
go
forward
and
the
staff
is
going
to
be
pretty
busy
with
that
at
22
action
plan
right
about
through
through
may.
So
that's
another
consideration.
F
Chris
chris,
but
you
raise
a
good
point
there
nils
like.
If
we
didn't
grant
this
extension,
wouldn't
you
be
able
to
include
those
twenty
three
thousand
twenty
thousand
dollars
into
the
planning
of
the
action
plan
and
be
kind
of
efficient
at
that
point
about
having
those
funds
under
our
control
and
being
able
to
allocate
them.
A
It
would
be
more
efficient
to
do
it
all
in
one
fell
swoop.
That's
true,
and
that
would
suggest
I
think
we
were
in
our
schedule,
we're
looking
for
the
ira
to
present
a
proposed
action
plan
to
the
common
council.
B
D
Recommendations
to
the
ira
by
then,
then
I
work
on
the
narrative
and
then
it
does
come
to
common
counsel
same
time
early
june,
but
I
just
can
submit
it
much
earlier
if
they
approve
it.
E
Well,
tracy
considering
they've
been
working
on
this
and
they
have
one
person
identified.
Maybe
we
don't
need
to
have
it
go
until
as
long
as
this
extension?
Maybe
it
should
just
go
until
march
and
then
either
the
money's
committed
or
it's
not,
and
we
move
forward
with
a
different
project.
E
H
H
You
know
one
one
positive
for
the
salvation
army
is
that
they
work
exclusively
with
very
low
income
people
now.
How
many
of
their
clients
are
homeowners
is
is
not
known
not
known
to
me,
I
will
say,
but
I
think
they
are
a
trusted
agency,
and
that
might
be
an
advantage
that
the
state
program
you
know
will
not
have
that.
When
you
have
a
trusted
agency
working
with
very
low
income,
people
can
say
we
have
a
program
that
can
help
you
assist.
You
excuse
me
with
retaining
your
home
to
me.
H
That's
a
positive,
but
of
course
we
do
have
to
think
about
the
funds
and
ensuring
that
they
do
get
out
the
door.
H
To
tracy's
point
we
may
know
by
march
that
you
know
if
the
funds
aren't
committed,
or
at
least
they're
not
talking
to
three
additional
homeowners
that
another
couple
of
months
won't
matter
at
all.
C
E
One
other
thing
I
was
thinking
about
was
some
of
the
state
money.
Although
it's
promised
is
very,
very
slow
to
get
used.
I
mean
weren't
that
the
problem
we
were
having
with
rental
assistance
from
there
was
money,
but
people
couldn't
get
to
it
fast
and
you
know
might
be,
might
be
easier
for
people
to
deal
with
local.
C
B
Would
the
committee
then
be
prepared
to
entertain
a
request
at
that
point
to
extend
it
to
may
or
does
it
make
more
sense
to
keep
the
may
28
2022
deadline
in
place
understanding
that
if
those
funds
then
are
not
used
for
this
purpose
and
they're
returned,
there's
a
two-year
window
to
reuse
repurpose
those
funds,
I'm
not
sure,
there's
much
of
a
risk
in
keeping
the
may
28th
deadline
if
that
deadline
is
moved
to
march,
I
I
ideally
I
hear
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
those
funds
committed
before
may
28th,
but
I
guess,
given
some
of
the
information
anisa,
provided
that
this
is
a
first-time
applicant
they're,
now
working
with
an
outreach
worker.
B
This
is
a
really
tough
time
of
year
for
homeowner
activity
it.
It
seems
reasonable
to
me
to
continue
with
the
may
28th
deadline.
A
Yes,
nels.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
carl's
point
about
the
state
program
versus
a
local
program.
The
state
program
is
is
unlike
the
rental
assistance
program
that
eventually
did
expend
all
the
funds,
so
they
did,
they
did
move
it
through
eventually,
but
they
did
have
a
slow
start
on
the
rental
assistance
program
at
the
state
level.
A
This
program
is
not
going
to
be
utilizing.
2-1-1
to
assist,
applicants
apply
for
funds,
it's
an
online
portal
that
will
open
up
on
january
third
and
when
the
funds
are
gone,
they'll
close
the
portal,
so
it's
not
the
same
kind
of
friendly
assist
you
to
fill
out
the
application
form.
It
may
not
be
quite
as
complicated
as
a
rental
program
they've.
A
I
think
the
states
have
learned
what
kind
of
questions
they
can
expect
to
be
answered
on
an
online
portal
and
what
kind
of
documentation
they
can
expect
to
receive,
but,
but
it
is,
it
is
likely
that
that
portal
will
close
well
before
march
and
that
they're,
you
know
if
they
identify
people
who
had
needs
that
didn't
get
into
the
portal
in
time
they
they
may
be
able
to
avail
themselves
of
salvation
army
assistance
is
one
one
possibility.
H
Well,
given
the
the
two
years
back
to
what
laura
just
said,
you
know,
given
that
we
do
have
two
years
if
salvation
army
is
unable
to
to
get
the
funds
out
by
the
time
about
the
deadline
of
may
28th,
it
seems
that
there's
minimal
risk
to
the
agency
in
terms
of
getting
the
funds
reprogrammed
and
then
out
the
door
to
address
the
need.
E
C
So
it
is
a
car
and
yeah
if
we're
ready
to
vote
as
as
written
sound,
good.
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
those
opposed,
carries
three
to
one.
Thank
you.
Any
other
report
from
the
ed
committee.
H
H
We
have
not
had
any
luck
yet
so
again,
just
to
ask
if,
as
you
all
go
about
your
your
business
in
the
within
the
city,
if
you
come
across
someone
you
think
might
be
good.
There's
welcome
to
attend
any
of
our
meetings.
Yeah,
I
was
about
to
say.
I
think
that
chris's
committee
probably
is
also
searching
so
just
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
go
about
our
business
and
to
to
look
for
city
residents,
who
might
be
a
good
fit
for
for
either
committee
and
that's
it
for
the
united.
F
E
C
I
know
first
I've
already
and-
and
this
is
this
is
what
happens
to
you.
If
you
leave
council
and
you
don't
run
fast
enough
away,
then
we
get
you
get
you
that's
where,
like
common
council
people
graduate
to
so
then
other
business,
the
security
deposits,
assistance
resolution,
scroll
down.
A
This
is
an
issue
that
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go
through
the
ni
committee,
but
anissa
has
been
discussing
it
with
individual
ni
committee
members
anissa.
Can
you
introduce
this.
D
I'm
sorry
I
just
I'm
never
fast
enough
with
the
mute
button.
Yes,
so
catholic
charities,
you
know
is,
has
four
active
contracts
all
related
to
security
deposits
with
us,
and
they
each
have
their
own
kind
of
little
wrinkle.
D
That
makes
you
know
administering
them
from
staff's
point
of
view,
a
little
bit
inefficient
or
a
lot
inefficient.
D
The
eviction
moratoria,
as
you
know,
have
slowed
the
expenditure
of
these
funds,
and
so
their
2019
and
cdbg
cv,
which
was
developed
in
2019
contracts.
Both
recently
came
up
for
extension
and
were
extended.
Their
2020
contract
will
expire
at
the
end
of
the
month
and
their
2021
contract
is
almost
ready
to
be
executed.
D
Of
course,
they
would
need
to
determine
any
applicants
who
qualify
for
the
cdbg
funding,
but
since
their
2021
contract
is
to
provide
full
security
deposits
and
certainly
people
who
have
come
to
them,
they're
they're,
seeing
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
struggle
in
being
able
to
gather
the
rest
of
the
resources
that
people
usually
need
to
make
a
complete
security
deposit
they
proposed.
Can
we
make
all
of
these
contracts
the
same
so
that
they
are
all
full
security
deposits
to
those
who
apply?
D
So
one
consideration
is,
of
course,
that
the
we
think
the
final
eviction
moratorium
will
expire.
We
know
it's
set
to
expire
on
january
15th,
as
we've
all
seen
during
the
pandemic.
You
know
it's
hard
to
anticipate
how
many
people
are
coming
through,
but
we
feel
because
there
are
enough
other
previously
unused
funds,
that
there
would
be
enough
to
cover
anybody
who
would
come
forward
and
get
a
full
security
deposit,
so
this.
This
is
why
we
feel
that
catholic
charities
has
a
you
know,
solid
proposal
in
creating
them
to
be
all
the
same.
D
They
also
were
interested
in.
You
know
they
had
thought
about
and
done
a
lot
of
work
in.
You
know
a
proposal
to
reprogram
the
funds
for
another
use
to
assist
people
who
are
on
the
section
8
waiting
list.
That's
still
something
that
they're
interested
in,
but
this
is
something
that
you
know.
We
feel
that
they
could
immediately
enact
and
have
a
lot
of
efficiency
in
doing
so.
C
Thank
you
is
it.
Is
it
a,
I
think,
something
of
a
pattern
which
is
that
that
is
between
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program
and
and
this
and
the
other
that.
C
Either
the
crisis
is
delayed
or
the
crisis
is
not
going
to
be
the
size
that
we
we
thought
to
probably
to
like
all
the
the
huge
influx
and
federal
spending
and
the
unemployment
benefits,
and
all
of
that
I
mean
is
that
is
that
a
trend
or
it
do?
We
should
we
be
concerned
that,
like
the
catholic
charities,
not
just
catholic
charities,
but
the
catholic
charities
of
our
community,
these
service
providers
are
not
being
reached
by
the
people
who
do
need
it.
H
This
is
this
is
an
unusual
situation
for
this
program.
You
know
we
strongly
support
it
or
this.
The
rental
assistance
for
well
since
I've
been
on
the
committee-
and
this
is
always
this
rental
assistance
program
in
my
memory-
has
always
been
a
very
strong
and
popular
program.
The
funds
have
always
run
out,
so
I
think
this
is
a
temporary
situation.
H
The
question
for
me
is:
when
does
it
get
back
to
normal?
You
know
when
we
see
that
happen,
but
in
terms
of
this
program,
the
demand
has
traditionally
been
very
strong.
C
Yeah
and
I'm
happy
to
support
this,
I
mean
there's,
certainly
this
adjustment
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
what's
going
on,
and
I.
C
E
I
just
wonder
if,
because
of
the
rent,
moratorium
and
stuff
people
just
weren't
moving,
it
wasn't
a
time
to
say
you
know
they
couldn't
be
evicted
and
they
also
maybe
didn't
want
to
say.
I
want
to
go
someplace
else
right.
This
minute.
B
C
Taken
by
chris
any
further
discussion.
C
C
Okay,
we're
at
the
part
of
the
agenda
where
the
scrolling
up
and
down
can
give
one
motion
sickness.
But
next
is
the
financials.
A
Truly
the
highlight
of
the
agenda
going
through
the
financials,
but
that
the
grand
summary
now
includes
the
all
the
cv
activities,
as
well
as
the
2021
program
activities.
So
it's
a
longer
list
than
you've
seen.
A
So
we
won't
really
need
to
be
cognizant
of
spend
down
on
cdbg
activities,
and
I
think
what
we've
just
been
discussing:
the
slowdown
of
implementation
of
programs
slow
down
and
demand
for
some
things
has
contributed
to
this,
but
that's
an
issue
we've
really
got
to
be
on
top
of,
and
we
are
planning
to
reach
out
to
our
grantees
and
make
sure
they're
aware
of
that
and
don't
delay
vouchering
us.
You
know
if
you've
got
expenses
incurred,
get
them
in
because,
as
we
approach
that
may
period,
we
want
to
be
down
to
1.5.
A
Instead
of
1.94,
we
can
ask
hud
for
forgiveness
and
explain
away
unique
circumstances,
but
I'd
rather
be
at
1.5
and
not
have
to
do
that,
and
and
some
of
the
projects
we
have
you
know
realistically
are
having
some
challenges
to
to
spend
down.
For
example,
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
gx
gym.
C
A
Know,
that's
there's.
There's
a
member,
you
know
an
earmark
in
the
federal
the
proposed
2222
federal
budget,
but
that
budget's
not
going
to
be
adapted
before
february
and
even
then
you
know
it
may
be
many
months
before
there's
actual
expenditure
on
gym
activities,
so
we
may
need
to
look
at
some
sort
of
reprogramming
of
pushing
older
money.
You
know
funding
a
project
that
we
think
is
going
to
be
implemented
quicker
and
pushing
projects
like
the
gym
into
the
2022
action
plan
and
think
you
know
procedures
like
that.
A
We
might
want
to
consider
on
the
on
the
positive
side
if
there
was
approval
for
finger
lakes,
reuse
of
some
ldd
loan
funds,
those
are
counted
towards
a
spend
down
as
well,
and
that
would
accelerate
our
timeliness
of
spend
down.
So
just
a
couple
of
factors
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
look
at
this
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
keep
track
of
the
of
the
spending
the
interesting
thing
about
this
metric.
A
Is
it
only
measures
cdbg
funds,
not
home
funds,
so
we've
got
a
good,
spend
down
ratio
on
home
funding,
but
we're
a
little
slower
on
the
cdbg
activities.
It
also
does
not
count
the
cdbg
cv
special
funding,
so
it's
a
really
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
strange
metric
right
now,
but
it's
one
that
that
hud
will
identify
a
shortcoming
of
us
if
we
don't
meet
that
1.5
standard
by
the
end
of
may.
A
A
That
won't
help
yeah.
Some
of
those
have
just
gotten
access
to
some
of
the
funding
as
well.
I
mean
somewhere
missed
the
summer
season,
but
you're
right,
though
those
are
what
we
want
to
get
those
monies
out,
because
they're
responding
to
pressing
needs
for
the
pandemic,
so
this
balance
between
which
ones
do
we
push?
First,
not
all
not
every
project
on
this
list
has
got
a
contract
in
place
because
we're
working
our
way
through
a
priority
listing
for
those,
but
for
the
most
part
they
any
any
project.
A
That's
ready
to
expend
funds
probably
has
a
funding
contract
available,
so
we'll
be
tracking
that
as
we
go
forward
and
identifying
some
possible
actions,
that's
what
that's
all
I
had
to
say
about
the
grants
summary.
Unless
somebody
has
questions
in
in
terms
of
the
lease
report,
we
see
that
there
is
good
compliance.
The
the
all
pro
project
is
now
current
in
terms
of
the
lease
payment
on
the
cubie
garage.
A
Farmer's
market
is
reporting
one
payment
in
default.
That's
a
confusion
in
some
respects
because
they
accidentally
made
a
payment
to
the
city
in
lieu
of
the
ira
in
august
and
that
money
was
applied
to
their
water
and
sewer
bill
and
which
they
now
have
a
surplus
on
in
the
water
and
sewer
bill.
But
we
have
a
deficit
in
their
lease
payment
to
the
ira,
so
we're
trying
to
work
through
that
issue.
There's
been
some
changes
in
management
there
in
that
time
period
and
we're
I
expect
everything
will
work
out.
A
We
just
need
to
clear
get
the
clarity
with
with
their
administrative
staff
to
cut
another
check,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
work
out
fine.
I
don't
have
the
loan
report
in
this
packet
because
it
just
got
completed
yesterday,
but
the
good
news
is
that
all
of
our
borrowers
are
current
and
on
loan
repayments,
with
one
minor
exception
and
that's
the
ethical
downtown
partnership,
which
is
the
owner
of
the
canopy
hotel.
A
They
have
an
interest-only
payment
due
from
september
2020,
when
they
transitioned
off
the
interest,
only
time
period
to
full
principal
and
interest
payments
and
again
it's
one
of
those
issues
where,
if
they
make
a
payment,
that's
not
correct,
exactly
correct.
It
gets
unapplied.
So
we're
waiting
to
have
m
t
provide
them
with
the
exact
amount
they
need
to
pay,
plus
penalties
and
interest
so
that
they
can
bring
that
that
account
current.
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
relatively
small
amount
compared
to
their
lo,
their
loan
payments,
and
it's
not
it's
not
a
matter
of
them.
A
A
The
final
thing
I
want
to,
let
you
know
about
relating
to
leases,
is
that
we
received
the
request
from
the
owners
of
evaporated
metal,
films
and
cherry
street,
which
is
in
a
lease
agreement
with
the
city,
and
they
have
a
leak,
at
least
with
an
option
to
purchase
whenever
they
want
to
exercise
a
purchase,
option.
A
They've
indicated
they
intend
to
do
that
and
that
that
would
be
a
purchase
at
the
assessed
value
at
the
time
that
the
ira
acquired
or
sold
the
property
to
them
for
their
building,
and
that
would
be
in
the
nature
of
twenty
four
thousand
dollars.
They're
looking
to
acquire,
sell
the
property
to
another
company
which
plans
to
continue
operations
on
the
site
in
the
same
way
and
seek
which
is
coding
of
lenses
and
they
plan
to
expand
the
work
the
workforce
is.
A
Is
their
plan
so
we'll
see
more
about
that
and
we'll
get
more
information,
but
that's
that's
what
there's
they're
seeking
to
acquire
that
property
so
right
now
the
ira
owns
two
properties
on
cherry
street:
evaporated
middle
films
and
precision
filters.
All
the
other
properties
have
been
sold.
The
businesses.
F
Just
one
question
that
I
would
have
asked
at
the
eddy
meeting
what
I
had
to
leave
early
nails
with
respect
to
the
loan
to
green
star.
Have
they
reached
out
at
all
with
any
sort
of
discussion
based
on
their
current
financial
challenges?
They.
A
Have
not
reached
out,
they
are
current
in
their
loan,
but
they
have
not
reached
out.
I
understand,
there's
been
some
communications
to
the
members
that
they
are
facing
some
financial
challenges
and
are
asking
members
to
help
help
out.
We
plan
to
reach
out
to
greenstar
and
they
just
understand
the
situation
better
and
see
if
they
plan
our
on
approaching
the
area
thanks.
C
Okay,
well
then,
any
other,
oh
yeah,
sorry
carl.
H
A
question
regarding
cherry
street:
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
former,
I
guess,
weitzman
site,
you
know
it's
been
sold
and
that
I
believe
it's
gonna
be
developed
as
another
apartment
building
or
some
type
of
housing.
So
my
question
is
that
kind
of
transition
from
that
area
from
industrial
to
to
residential?
A
The
the
zoning
in
that
area
prohibits
residential
uses
south
of
us
of
cecil
malone
on
cherry
street,
so
the
area
is
north
of
system
alone.
Allow
residential
uses,
the
southern
section
is
reserved
for
non-residential
uses,
so
that
probably
will
will
govern
we'll
we'll
stymie,
dramatic
change.
I
I
suspect,
in
that
area
the
weizmann
salvage
yard
junkyard
site
is
currently
a
subject
of
a
new
york
state
brownfields
cleanup
program,
so
they've
entered
the
program.
A
Vision
is
involved
in
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
going
under
the
name
vision
for
property
ownership,
but
vision
is
involved
with
that
project
site
and
they
have
a
fairly
robust
cleanup
plan
for
that
site,
which
they
seek
state.
This
state
monitoring
of
it
during
the
process,
as
well
as
transparency
to
the
public
through
that
state
program.
So
that's
a
that's
a
positive
in
terms
of
seeing
that
site
undergo
that
vigor.
For
for
environmental
review
and
cleanup
the
goal
is
to
redevelop
it
largely
for
residential.
A
I
think
the
the
palanjali
site
is
also
part
of
the
common
ownership
in
that
area
and
that
I
think,
that's
not
proposed
for
residential.
That's
more
of
a
non-residential
use.
They're
discussing
there
it's
too
bad
lisa
had
to
leave
early
because
they
are
coming
to
the
planning
board.
Soon,
I
understand
with
more
detailed
plans.
A
I
think
they've
laid
out
some
conceptual
plans
about
a
year
ago,
but
now
I
believe,
they're
coming
back
with
some
more
detailed
plans
for
future
development
of
the
sites
which
include
the
waterfront
sites
adjacent
to
our
house,
not
just
the
jungle,
what
we
think
of
as
a
salvage
yard
site.
It's
also
those
kind
of
underutilized
sites
on
the
flip
control
channel.
So
it
could
be
a
pretty
exciting
proposal
to
end
modification
to
that.
Neighborhood.
C
Okay,
well
any
further
director's
report.
C
Oh
yeah
yeah,
I
I
don't
believe
I
have
anything
to
report
but
I'll
think
about
it.
If
well,
if
you
have
anything
before,
I
think
about
it,.
B
Well,
just
as
we
were
discussing
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
the
it's
guaranteed
income
program
is
a
very
exciting
opportunity
for
city
residents,
who
are
care
givers
to
apply
for
the
guaranteed
income
program.
The
application
window
is
very
brief.
It
will
close
tomorrow
right
before
midnight
and
we're
hoping
for
more
completed
applications
to
come
through
by
that
deadline.
B
The
selection
of
participants
will
be
randomized
and
that
selection
process,
I
believe,
will
take
about
between
four
to
six
weeks
before
we're
able
to
notify
people
of
selection
for
the
guaranteed
income
program.
But
it's
it's
very
exciting
and,
as
the
the
mayor
has
said,
in
the
press
release
recently,
this
should
be
opportunity
for
ithaca
to
stand
out
as
a
model
for
promoting
a
national
guaranteed
income
program.
So
this
is
is
really
a
wonderful
effort.
B
D
Well,
all
I
have
to
add
well
two
things:
laura
has
also
been
working
very
hard
on.
This
laura
has
been
our
elected
official,
championing
championing
our
anti-displacement
work
very
hard
word
to
say,
and
we
really
appreciate
all
of
laura's
commitment
to
this
to
this
effort.
D
The
only
other
thing
I'd
say,
as
we
already
said
at
the
beginning,
please
do
if
you
can,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
talk
with
people,
you
know
and
encourage
them
to
apply
before
the
end
of
the
day.
Tomorrow,
I've
really
found-
and
I
think
laura
has
found
in
our
outreach
efforts
that
speaking
to
people
one-on-one
really
makes
a
huge
difference.
People
have
heard
about
the
project
have
thought
about.
The
project
might
have
some
questions
about
the
project
that
are
very
easily
answered
on
the
hsc
website.
D
D
H
At
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
when
we
were
discussing
this,
I
believe
it
was
a
nissa
said
that
approximately
half
of
the
applications
that
have
been
received
to
date
were
incomplete.
So
I'm
wondering
how
tomorrow's
deadline
impacts,
applications
that
were
submitted
but
are
not
complete.
D
Yeah
they
great
question
carl.
They
when
they're
in
incomplete
mode
people
still
have
the
opportunity
to
go
back
and
finish
them,
but
by
the
deadline.
If
they
haven't
been
finished,
they
will
not
be
submitted.
So
you
know
it's
it's
a
great
function,
I
think
of
the
application
that
it
allows
people
to
save
and
return,
because
you
know
people
get
interrupted
it.
It
does
take
a
while.
D
It's
you
know
it's
a
application,
as
well
as
a
baseline
survey
that
the
researchers
use,
so
it
takes
at
least
45
minutes
we're
finding
for
people
to
work
through
this
application.
So
you
know
people
ain't
need
a
break
they
might.
Although
a
lot
of
documentation
is
not
needed
for
this,
you
know,
for
whatever
reason,
people
may
need
to
step
away
and
come
back.
So
that's
a
great
function,
but
people
really
just
need
to
go
in
and
finish
it.
D
I
forgot
to
mention
as
well
that
the
application
itself
is
translated
into
four
languages:
korean
spanish
korean
and
simplified
chinese.
Unfortunately,
at
the
application
form
at
the
top
there's
a
drop
down
menu
which
we
asked
them
to
make
more
prominent.
So
people
could
see
that
there
is.
You
know
there
are
these
different
language
options.
D
We
already
know
from
one
karen
speaker
that
they
didn't
see
that,
but
they
did,
they
did
submit
an
application,
but
so
it
is
available
in
four
languages
and
if
people
call
hsc
needing
help
in
any
language,
hsc
will
use
the
language
line
to
to
help
them
work
through
the
questions.
B
Yeah
the
posters
physical
posters
that
we've
been
putting
up
around
town
also
allows
us
to
talk
with
people.
You
know
I
know
I
spoke
with
brett
bossert.
He
was
putting
a
poster
up
at
cinemapolis
poster
up
at
kenny's
drugstore
on
cuga
street
poster
at
gimme
on
cuga
street
and
outside
greenstar
in
dewitt
mall.
B
So
please
encourage
people
to
look
into
the
program.
Hsc
is
helpful
in
answering
questions
that
anyone
may
have
about
the
program.
B
B
I'm
struggling
even
to
say
that,
because
we
are
losing
tremendous
depth,
experience
commitment
on
the
part
of
our
four
colleagues
from
common
council
who
will
be
retiring,
so
next
year
will
be
an
interesting
year
of
four
actually
five
new
council
members,
patrick
mailer,
has
been
seated
on
council
as
of
november,
but
he
is
still
relatively
new,
he's
already
contributing
significantly,
and
so
it
will
be
a
a
new
year,
a
new
era
of
common
council
going
into
the
next
two
years,
but
kudos
and
many
many
thanks
to
the
10
and
12
years
of
experience
that
have
been
provided
by
sef,
donna,
graham
and
deb,
and
in
that
group
of
four.
B
We
also
have
our
two
standing
committee
chairs
retiring
from
council.
So
the
mayor
has
a
big
job
ahead
of
him
in
terms
of
making
our
committee
assignments
for
the
coming
year,
and
it
will
certainly
be
a
new
era
starting
in
2022.
C
Yes,
very
much
so
exciting
nerve-wracking
in
equal
measure.
Yes,.
A
Of
quick
items
to
mostly
update
items
for
you
one
is
that
states
announced
their
consolidated
funding
application
awards
this
year
and
the
big
award
in
in
the
city
of
ithaca
is
the
ithaca
farmers
market
received
a
3.2
million
dollar
award
to
pursue
their
redevelopment
of
the
the
site.
I
believe
that's
a
over
a
six
million
dollar
project,
so
I
think
there's
a
50
grant
on
that,
which
is
a
major
step
forward
for
that
project.
A
E
A
I
think
the
full
legislature
have
act
acted,
but
the
committee
certainly
did
act
to
recommend
sale
of
properties
along
sears
street
to
inhs
for
the
purposes
of
developing
affordable
for
sale,
housing
alongside
street.
So
that's
been
long
requested
by
city
officials
to
move
in
that
direction
and
I
think
rich
john
may
have
played
a
large
part
in
moving
the
county
legislature
to
support
that
along
with
martha
robertson.
A
So
that's
positive
and
then
the
other
housing
activity
that
you
might
be
interested
in
is
the
housing
authorities
north
side
project
that
82
unit
reconstruction
they've
been
facing
some
headwinds
by
community
groups
that
really
wanted
to
see
that
project
be
an
all-electric
project.
It
was
it
was
originally
costed
out
two
years
ago,
as
a
you
know,
continuing
gas-fired
furnaces,
they
came
and
were
were
asked
to
identify
the
gap
which
is
about
and
forty
thousand
dollars
to
move
from
gas
fire
to
electric.
A
A
The
community
housing
development
fund,
which
chris
sits
on
with
cornell
and
thompson's
county
representatives,
as
well
as
the
city,
did
approve
a
hundred
forty
thousand
dollar
funding
for
that
project.
So
it
appears
that
that
they'll
be
able
to
continue
closing
that
project
in
march
and
it
will
be
100
electric.
A
So
that's
a
nice
green
new
deal
plus
for
the
community,
that's
great
and
then
the
final
thing
is
the
information
in
your
packet,
the
topkins
county's
planning,
division,
planning
and
sustainability
department
produced
a
housing
snapshot
that
looks
at
housing
issues
from
a
county
perspective.
A
It's
a
lot
of
good
interesting
data,
provided
there
susan
in
their
planning
division,
did
a
nice
job.
You
know
pulling
together
data
and
taking
a
snapshot.
Look
at
comparing
where
the
community
stands
in
terms
of
housing,
supply
versus
housing
demand
and
the
goals
that
this
that
the
community
had
for
new
housing
development,
we're
doing
pretty
well
on
rental
housing,
we're
doing
very
well
on
new
student
created
housing,
but
the
biggest
challenge,
of
course,
in
the
biggest
shortfall
is
the
for
sale,
housing
at
moderate
or
affordable
ranges.
A
So
that's
a
you
know,
quick
snapshot,
there's
a
lot
of
information
there
and
I'm
told
that
if
you,
if
you
read
through
the
report-
and
you
say
where
did
that
number
come
from
their
website-
has
all
the
backup
data
available
on
the
topkins
county
planning
and
sustainability
department
website.
So
if
you
have
interest
in
following
it
up,
you
can
go
there.
So
I
thought
that
was
an
interesting
study
to
share
with
you.
That's
all.
I
have.
C
it
was.
It
was
better
than
2020.,
though
I
guess
two
weeks
left,
so
I
shouldn't
shouldn't
yeah
and,
as
we've
found
out
in
the
last
four
days,
a
lot
can
change
likely
to
change
two
weeks.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
service.
Thank
you
for,
for
bearing
with
us
is
you
know
we
continue
to
find
new
ways
to
do.
What's
really
really
important
work.
A
Mayor
today
I
get
questions
asked
about
remote
meetings
versus
in-person
meetings.
I
know
that
the
remote
protocol
is
allowable,
at
least
through
january
15th.
Our
next
meeting
is,
as
the
full
ira
is
the
27th.
So
are
you
aware
of
any
emotion?
Do
you
have
any
advice
for
how
we
should
plan
meetings?
We.
C
Should
plan
for
virtual,
I
think
it's
an
almost
it's
a
near
certainty
that
the
governor
will
extend
the
allowance
for
for
virtual
meetings.
C
C
E
Was
just
gonna
say,
do
we
think
it'll
go
through
going
through
our
cdg
and
home
selection
process
for
grants?
Is
it
going
to
go
through
there
or
not
yeah.
C
I
expect
so,
I
think
we're
encouraging
them
to
throw
it
to
cast
it
pretty
far
out
to
not
just
do
give
us
like
a
month
by
month
extension,
but
to
cast
it
out
so
that
communities
can
plan.