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A
B
Okay,
he
I
will
let
him
in
as
soon
as
they
so
we're
now
recording
on
youtube
and
charles.
For
some
reason
I
don't
know
if
you
can
help
me
if
some
reason
I'm
not
able
to
access
the
the
waiting
room
now.
I.
A
B
C
B
Paulette
just
wondering:
did
you
see
the
the
message
I
sent
to
the
waiting
room?
Yes,.
C
A
All
right,
so
if
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
last
meeting,
if
we
could
have
a
motion
to
approve
them,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
hear
I
didn't
see
either
that
was
tracy.
D
A
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
october
meeting
minutes.
D
A
All
right
and
we
have
an
action
item.
You
missing
the
resolution.
A
Excuse
me,
you
see,
the
resolution
g-ac
is
is
has
applied
to
for
their
cbdo
designation
again.
A
A
C
A
B
I
did
this
at
my
work,
computer
in
the
office
and
so
okay,
we
may
need
to
take
a
break,
so
I
can
find
that
it's
the
same
resolution
that
we've
used
in
the
past
for
the
other
cbdos
that
we
have
approved,
which
I
will
I'm
looking
in
my
files
right
now
for
that.
B
Essentially
the
resolution
states
that
the
organization
that
applied
has
met
the
criteria
of
the
setboard
I
had
and
that
staff
has
reviewed
the
the
res
the
the
application
packet
and
recommends
this
agency
for
cbdo
status.
I
apologize
to
you
all.
I'm
really
sorry.
Also.
I
find
that
when
I
have
to
multitask
well
on
zoom,
my
abilities
are
actually
greatly
diminished.
So
I'm
looking
right
now
inside
my
files,
and
I
again
I
really
apologize
it's
very
embarrassing.
B
Okay,
okay,
I
think
I've
found
the
resolve
and
I
can
read
the
results
result
that
the
ira
determines
that
giac
meets
the
requirements
for
eligibility
as
a
cbdo
and
that
gx
hetp
training
program
qualifies
as
an
eligible
cbdo
activity,
and
it
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
ira
designates
giac
as
a
community-based
development
organization
and
hospitality
employment
training
program
job
placements
as
eligible
for
cdbg
funding.
Under
this,
the
category
of
special
activities
by
cbdos.
D
D
Well,
I
I
thought
they
were
just
in
general
about
you
know
like
if
we
did,
one
we've
done
them,
for
we
do
it,
for
historic
ethic
are
correct
and
yeah
is.
B
This
is
an
excellent
question.
What
I
will
say
tracy
is
I,
in
my
experience,
as
I
recall,
we
have
attached
it
with
in
the
case
of
jack
to
hetp
in
the
past,
but
you're
bringing
up
an
important
question
because
hetp
may
want
to
as
they
did
last
year.
As
you
recall,
they
were
during
the
action
plan
they
wanted
to.
B
They
submitted
an
application
for
their
gym
and
part
of
that
application
was
contingent
on
there
being
a
cbdo.
B
We
normally
indicate
the
activity
as
well
in
most
resolutions,
but
we
could
review
that
specific
piece
as
staff
before
bringing
if
you
recommend
this
resolution
to
the
ira
board
for
clarification,
because
giac
may
want
to
engage
in
other
cbdo
related
projects.
Besides
http,
I
think
that's
the
point
that
you're
bringing
up
yes
or
that
would
allow
them
that
flexibility
so,
but
that
I
think,
is
an
excellent
question
that
we
could
answer
as
a
staff
before
bringing
this
resolution
to
the
board.
D
B
Yes,
historic,
ithacas
is
and
finger
lakes
reuses
has
been
also
in
the
past,
but,
as
you
remember,
finger
lakes.
Reuse
also
was
in
a
position
at
one
point
where
they
wanted
to
do
more
than
their
their
economic
development
training
program.
They
wanted
to
potentially
look
into
other
development
opportunities
as
an
organization,
but
normally
the
resolution
does
reflect
the
activity
that
is
indicated
in
the
action
plan.
B
A
A
Further
discussion
on
this
item,
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
resolution
large
react
to
jx
application
for
cdbo.
D
A
All
right
so
discussion
and
then
another
resolution
around
the
first,
a
discussion
about
the
warming
centers
and
something
we
talked
about
the
last
couple
of
meetings
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
we're
into
the
winter
season.
It
feels
like
today.
B
B
So
I'm
going
to
attempt
to
summarize
in
a
brief
way
and
give
you
an
overview
of
where
things
stand
currently,
and
this
relates
to
the
resolution
that
I
sent
out
yesterday
again-
apologies
for
getting
that
out
yesterday
afternoon
regarding
the
basic
sanitation
station,
so
I'll
try
to
explain
how
that
basic
sanitation,
also
station
came
into
being
too,
because
I
anticipate
that
there's
probably
going
to
want
to
be
a
lot
of
you
know,
questions
and
discussion
about
that.
So
so
basically
bear
with
me
on
that.
B
So,
as
you
may
recall,
one
thing
that
has
been
happening
since
the
pandemic
started
is
that
the
various
organizations
that
do
street
outreach
have
been
meeting
on
a.
I
believe.
It's
a
weekly
basis,
liddy
barger
of
the
continuum
of
care,
coordinates
that
group
and
the
idea
is
really
to
you,
know
understand
you
know
everybody.
B
All
different
organizations
have
different
approaches
to
how
they
do
street
outreach,
just
as
they
have
different
approaches
to
how
they
do
their
services,
but
it
was
really
meant
to
be
able
to
improve,
not
that
I
don't
want
to
say,
improve.
B
Promote
communication
between
the
members
gain
some
shared
understanding
of
what
the
needs
were
and
be
able
to
kind
of
work
together
as
a
group
to
bring
forward
ideas
and
and
such
so
there
were
various
ideas
in
the
community,
not
just
in
the
street
outreach
group,
but
in
the
service
provision
community
about
ways
to
serve
homeless
people
during
the
winter.
B
So
one
idea,
as
you
may
recall,
was
something
like
a
warming
trail
where
maybe
different
organizations
who
provide
services
to
people
who
are
homeless,
who
are
not
open
to
the
public
and
not
possibly
not.
You
know,
they're
they're,
seeing
people
on
a
very
limited
basis,
so
they're
gathering
spaces
that
may
have
existed
in
the
past
are
unavailable,
but
the
idea
was:
would
those
groups
be
willing
to
maybe
host
a
hot
beverage
where
people
could
come
and
get
a
hot
beverage
and
then
move
on?
B
I
don't
think
that
there
was
a
lot
of
appetite
for
that
type
of
solution,
because,
basically,
in
the
winter
time,
it's
really
not
enough
to
just
keep
moving
around
people
do
need
a
place
that
they
could
come
and
warm
up.
That,
I
think,
was
the
most
widely
held
view.
B
There
are
still
some
that
felt
that
that
could
work
and
maybe
it
could
work,
but
I
think,
for
those
who
are
looking
for
a
winter
solution,
the
effort
then
became
to
explore
the
idea
of
a
warming
center,
a
facility
that
was
big
enough
for
people
to
come,
spend
some
time
warm
up
and
possibly
get
access
to
other
services.
B
So
both
loaves
and
fishes
and
the
friendship
center
were
interested
in
pursuing
that
type
of
idea
and,
as
you
may
recall,
the
friendship
center
brought
forward.
You
know
an
idea
that
would
involve
putting
a
tent
on
their
in
their
back
patio
with
heaters
and
and
allowing
people
to
circulate
in
and
out
of
the
building,
the
tent
being
important,
because
people
would
like
to
use
the
back
patio
for
smoking
and
so
on.
B
However,
those
of
you
who
may
have
been
at
the
myura
board
meeting
there-
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
you-
know
very
important
concerns
that
were
raised
about
the
safety.
If
there's
a
propane
heater
in
a
tent
flammability
and
things
like
that,
so
at
the
direction
of
the
board,
it
was
indicated
that
there
might
be
interest
in
learning
more
about
how
the
friendship
might
pretend
potentially
staff
and
annex
instead
of
an
outdoor
space.
B
So
they
could
continue
to
operate
the
friendship
center
people
could
continue
to
use
the
patio
without
without
the
tent.
It
would
be
like
an
additional
space.
So
the
friendships
and
I
reached
out
to
the
friendship
center
and
the
friendship
center
has
reached
out
to
various
locations
that
might
be
willing
to
you
know,
rent
to
them
on
a
short-term
basis.
I
will
say
that
so
they
reached
out
to
all
of
the
ones
that
were
discussed
in
this
group,
that
included
blackbird
studio
city,
health,
the
llama
center
john's
convenience
and
carl.
B
B
B
I
kept
wanting
to
call
it
libby's,
but
that's
a
dog
I
had
so,
and
these
that
space
was
not
available,
did
they
they
did
look
into
that.
So,
let's
say.
F
Geographically,
we
look
at
the
we're
looking
for
places,
particularly
in
that
area.
Town.
B
F
B
I
think
that
they
might
consider
another
place,
the
the
the
ones
that
were
mentioned.
There
were
a
couple
reasons
why
one
is
because,
if
it's
their
annex
this
would
if
it
was
close
enough
to
their
to
their
permanent
site.
This
would
allow
staff
to
be
able.
C
B
Easily
move,
and
also
there's
knowledge
that
for
people
that
they
serve,
especially
if
they
are
living
in
the
jungle
or
you
know,
or
so
on,
that
that
those
spaces
are
more
accessible.
B
Some
of
the
spaces
that
we
discussed
also
had
enough
adjacencies
that
the
friendship
center
felt
that
they
would
be
able
to
manage
other
other
aspects
of
the
the
service
needs
like
I'm
not
trying
to
say
that
smoking
is
a
need,
but
it
is
a
reality
that
people
will
be
smoking
and
so
had
a
big
enough
parking
lot
to
accommodate
that
that
the
friendship
center
could
oversee
and
things
like
that.
But
if
you
have
other
ideas,
fernando.
F
Yes,
there
may
be
places.
I'm
thinking
you
know
one
familiar
with
it
like
the
unitarian
church
has
its
addicts.
I
don't
think
they're
doing
activities
because
they're,
not
they
can't
be
gathering
so,
and
I
don't
know
if
their
other
churches
or
other
I
don't
know
if
the
vfw
is
doing
anything
I
mean
I
don't
know
the
story
with
that
building,
but
so
so
it's
possible
that
this
particular
winner
there
may
be
a
number
of
places
available,
because
activities
are
not
happening.
F
B
B
You
can
email
them
to
me
and
I
will
assist
the
friendship
center
in
getting
that
information
out.
I
know
that
some
churches
that
were
approached
at
various
times
and
you
bring
up
an
important
point-
that
things
are
kind
of
ever-changing,
but
at
other
times
I
know
that
not
the
unitarians
necessarily,
but
some
other
churches
had
concerns
about
offering
services
that
they
might
normally
do
because
of
their
parishioners
age
and
vulnerability,
and
that
if
there
are
two
populations
kind
of
moving
side
by
side
that
you
know
people
might
be
exposed.
B
But
you
know
we
have
been
in
the
pandemic
for
a
while.
Now
and
maybe
you
know,
there's
enough
expertise,
that's
been
developed
about
how
to
create
sep.
You
know
socially
distance
activities
if
churches
are
willing
to
give
up
spaces
that
they're
not
using
for
programming.
That,
I
think
that's
an
excellent
idea,
but
I
also
saw
that
theresa.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
it
doesn't
really
have
a
parking
lot,
but
step
renovated
that
house
into
an
office
building,
but
I
pretty
sure
it's
empty
now
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
because
they're
all
doing
zoom
or
if
they
just
move
somewhere
else.
You
know
the
one.
Yes
they
used
to
live,
so
is
that
I
mean
you
know
they
just
put
in
all
the
smoke,
alarms
and
handicap
bathrooms,
and
all
that
it
has
a
ramp.
I
mean
it
seems
like
if
they're
not
using
it.
E
B
B
The
friendship
center,
my
understanding,
is
generally
it's
not
as
though
they
do
testing
or
anything
like
that,
but
they
do
expect
people
to
adhere
to
a
certain
set
of
rules.
So-
and
I
don't
have
the
firm
I
I
haven't-
asked
them
specifically
how
they
handle
people
who
may
have
been
using,
who
want
to
enter
their
space
but
are
not
causing
any
problems.
Behaviorally.
B
I
think
the
friendship
center
really
is
you
know
they
are
a
dss.
They
they
receive
some
funding
from
dss,
so
they
have
to
comply
with
any
of
the
rules
and
regulations
that
otada,
which
is
dss's
regulatory
agency
at
the
state
level,
require
so
they
may.
They
may
have
some
more
requirements
than
say
staff.
Does
let's
say
that
in
fact
I'm
sure
they
do?
B
But
so
I
don't
have
a
firm
answer
for
your
question,
but
probably
the
friendship
center
will
try
to
serve
people
for
whatever
their
need
is
and
as
long
as
people
can
comply
with
them
and
are
not
disruptive
and
or
obviously
under
the
influence
will
you
know
work
with
them
to
the
best
of
their
abilities.
E
B
At
the
friendship
center
site
itself,
you
know
there's
two
different
issues
going
on
at
the
site:
that's
their
permanent
site.
They
are
required
to
operate
as
otada.
You
know,
following
their
regulations
at
an
annex
site
they
may
or
may
not
have
to,
but
the
friendship
center
is
the
site
locally.
That
is
partnered
with
dss,
so
there
may
be
some
difficulties
with
them
partnering
with,
or
they
may
see
that
I
don't
know
if
regulatory
there
is,
but
they
may,
that
may
be
a
barrier.
B
I
can
explore
it
with
them
and
stap
itself
has
not
was
not
one
of
the
organizations
that
you
know
said.
Yes,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
explore
a
warming
center.
Now,
maybe
they
would
if
they
were
approached,
and
we
can
explore
that.
But
I
think
that
there's
multiple
issues
that-
and
I
think.
E
What
I,
what
I'm
getting
from
staff,
is
that
they're
totally
out
of
money
and
they
can't
approach
anything
that
doesn't,
that
requires
and
one
dollar
from
them,
because
they're
barely
hanging
on.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
why
they
haven't
stepped
forward
or
if
there
are
other
things
going
on.
I
I'm
just
suggesting
that
it's
an
empty
as
far
as
I
know,
it's
empty
they're,
not
using
it
right
now.
E
B
Well,
one
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
it's
expensive
to
do
something
like
this:
the
staffing
for
example,
as
I
was
going
to
mention
with
the
loaves
and
fishes
warming
center.
Let's
transition
to
that,
so
loaves
and
fishes
they're
a
concept
for
a
warming
center,
something
that
christina
culver
their
executive
director
really
wanted
to
see
is
because
they're
still
in
the
space
of
doing
takeaway
meals.
B
A
large
thing
that
she
really
feels
has
been
lacking
is
their
advocacy
program,
which,
formerly
you
may
be
aware,
j.r
claire
bourne
used
to
be
their
advocate
and
he's
moved
on
to
the
veterans
administration.
But
she
has
funding
to
fill
those
positions
and
the
advocates
you
know
work
with
people
to
help
connect
them
and
or
resolve
whatever
needs
are
emerging
for
them.
So
she
really
feels
that,
in
addition
to
you
know,
people
not
having
a
space
to
gather
there's
this
real
lack
in
people
being
able
to
connect
with
those
services.
B
So
she
approached
thompson,
county
public
library
and
the
librarian
was
amenable
to
loaves
and
fishes
utilizing
the
borg
warner
space
for
three
months,
or
I
guess
it's
actually
four
months
december,
one
through
the
end
of
march
to
provide
that
type
of
space,
so
that
has
been
funded
by
park
for
three
months
and
the
concept
as
it
stands
right
now
is
that
there
will
be
two
lives
and
fishes
staff
people
every
time
that
site
is
open.
B
B
She
was
not
looking
at
offering
a
full
meal
at
that
site.
If
they
do
provide
food
or
drink,
they
would
try
to
keep
it
very
contained
and
the
idea
would
be
to
have
plexiglass
enclosures,
not
enclosures,
but
like
carols,
for
anyone
who
needed
to
take
their
mask
off
so
that
they
would
be
able
to
maintain
distance,
be
in
a
plexiglas
type
carol.
B
Sitting
you
know
facing
the
plexiglas,
probably
in
front
of
the
boardward
or
windows
if
that
were
needed,
so
those
would
need
to
be
fabricated,
but
the
idea
would
be
that
everybody
otherwise
would
be
masked
inside
the
space.
The
advocates
would
be
there
and
they
would
continue
to
invite,
as
they
did
in
their
dining
hall.
All
manner
of
other
service
providers
throughout
the
winter
to
you
know,
provide
information
and
referrals
and
things
like
that.
B
That's
christina's
vision,
as
I
understand
it,
and
I
know
that
she
posted
the
job
positions
as
soon
as
she
got
funding
from
park.
I
don't
know
where
she
is
and
in
hiring
for
those
positions,
and
I
also
know
just
from
experience
with
christina
that
it's
very
important
to
her,
that
the
staff
be
onboarded
in
a
way
that
you
know
she
feels
is
appropriate.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
if
that
place
is
to
get
up
to
speed
and
able
to
open
for
december
1st,
so
we
might
be
looking
at
something
like
it.
You
know,
starts
with
less
expansive
hours
or
something
like
that.
I'm
not
sure
I
haven't
been
able
to
speak
to
a
tree.
I'm
sorry
to
christina
directly
about
where
she
is
in
her
planning
process,
so
both
liddy
barger
and
I
have
met
with
her
at
various
times
about
this
idea
and
are
willing
to
help
provide
technical
assistance.
B
So
I
mention
all
of
this
because,
as
you
may
be
aware,
you
know
the
friendship
center
and
loaves
and
fishes
have
two
different
ways
of
operating.
Neither
I'm
not
saying
one
is
better
than
the
other.
B
It's
just
that
they're
going
to
pers
be
pursuing
whatever
they
want
to
pursue
in
line
with
how
they
operate
now,
probably
wanting
to
extend
those
operations
or
possibly
try
some
new
things,
but
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
expect
that
both
of
those
places
will
cr
will
really
be
working
based
in
their
current
type
of
service
model.
B
So
despite
lows
and
fishes
getting
funded
for
three
months
from
park,
I
still
continued
on
with
discussions
with
the
friendship
center
because
again,
if,
if
the
loaves
and
fishes
center
is
open
for
three
months,
but
in
the
hours
that
I
described,
that
doesn't
include
any
later
afternoon
hours
or
weekend
hours,
so
there
could
still
be
potentially
the
need
for
some
like
some
overlap.
Space-
and
you
know,
the
friendship
center
saw
that
as
well.
B
They
did
investigate
exclusively
using
their
own
space
and
if
they
converted
their
r1
dorm,
they
feel
that
they
could
have
11
people
in
the
friendship
center
socially
distanced
at
every
any
one
time,
which
is
not
a
lot.
It's
a
very
constricted
space,
but
they
were
willing
to
to
consider
that.
So
you
know
at
this
point.
What
I
have
to
say
is
you
know
we're
now
in
november,
and
I
don't
think
the
friendship
center
has
had
a
lot
of
you
know
they.
They
haven't
indicated
to
me
that
they
have
identified
a
space.
B
B
The
css
has
been
notified
that
code
blue
will
be
in
effect
this
year,
so
the
state
will
reimburse
for
hotel
rooms
for
people
on
nights
that
are
32
degrees
or
below
the
friendship
center
administers
that
it's
you
know
it's
a
lot
that
I
think
service
providers
are
trying
to
do.
Yes,.
A
It's
in
the
600
block
of
west
state
street,
so
you
know
where
the
cancer
resource
center
is
the
former
shelter.
Okay,.
A
D
My
question
is:
okay,
doing
11
people
at
a
time.
How
many
did
the
friendship
center
usually
have?
Did
they
usually
have
more
than
11
at
a
time?
That
seems
like
a
pretty
good
start
and
then
I
wondered
how
much
it
cost
to
fund
loaves
and
fishes
for
that
three
months
I
was
just
you
know:
what
is
the
cost
for
that.
B
Okay,
so
the
friendship
center,
what
we
were
talking
about,
11
people
at
a
time
that
would
be
during
the
day-
and
I
was
a
little
surprised-
that
the
friendship
center
said
that
they
don't
have
numbers
from
their
past
years,
so
that
was
one
that
was
okay.
So
what
I
will
say
to
that
tracy
is
that
was
a
recommendation
that
I
made
to
them
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
produce
numbers,
especially
if
they
you
know,
if
they're
trying
to
make
a
case
that
they're
serving
a
lot
of
people.
B
I
will
say
when
I
have
been
to
the
friendship
center
at
various
times,
not
including
winter,
I've
seen
more
than
11
people
in
that
building
at
one
time.
Okay,
so
basically
it's
you
know,
however
many
people
they
felt
like
they
could
you
know
that
could
be
in
there
and
meet
fire
code?
I
don't
know
what
the
fire
code
number
was
the
loaves
and
fishes
space.
B
If
you
give
me
some
time
or
I
can
I'm
sorry-
I
don't
know
the
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
even
though
I
worked
with
christina
on
that
budget,
very
bare
bones
budget,
I
will
say
it
was
extremely
affordable
for
what
they
were
doing
and
I
would
say
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
think
it
was
about
about
forty
thousand
dollars.
I
could
be
wrong.
I
will
email
you
after
or
when
we
have
a
break.
I
can
look
into
the
paperwork
that
I
have.
D
D
They
might
want
to
be
doing
more
on
their
own
if
they
see
this
as
their
mission,
rather
than
you
know,
we
keep
having
to
say
oh
check
this
check.
This
check
that
the
loaves
and
fishes
sounds
like
both
parties
are
involved
and
think
it's
okay.
B
A
So
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
Well,
one
is
in
terms
of
another
site
to
add
to
the
list
for
possibilities
so
on
fulton
street
there's
the
old
location
where
sparrows
wine
shop
was
that's
empty.
Now
now
one
problem
might
be
yeah
the
the
people
that
they
sold
it
to
moved
to
next
door
to
the
the
fingerless
beverage.
C
A
Okay,
but
one
problem
is
in
that
lot:
there
was
another
building
that
housed
the
daycare
and
I
don't
know
if
the
daycare
is
open.
Well,
I
don't
know
daycare
is
the
right
word,
but
it
was
a
a
child
care
center,
and
so,
if
the
child
care
center
is
there
it's,
I
doubt
that
they
would
want
a
homeless,
shelter
or
warming
station.
You
know
next
door
to
that.
A
It
might
not
even
be
allowed
by
law,
but
they
may
be
closed
because
of
coving,
so
that's
one
possibility
and
that
I
think
that
building
is
owned
by
the
chaskis.
A
You
know
tim
and
and
terry
trustee,
and
my
question,
though,
was
do
we
have
an
idea
yet
of
it
sounds
like
well
loaves
and
fishes
get
funding
from
park.
A
B
About
the
sport,
you
know
we
let
them
know
that
we
had
about
38.
This
was
this.
These
conversations
began
before
I
already
received
notice
of
the
third
toronto
funding
from
cdpg
cv,
but
we
let
them
know
at
that
time
that
there
was
about
38
000
available
for
this
use,
but
because
they
haven't
been
able
to
locate
a
space,
they
haven't
been
able
to
estimate
what
the
rent
would
be.
They
like
loads
of
fishes.
They
do.
B
I
mean
the
advantage
of
being
at
the
friendship
center
themselves
is
they
could
use
existing
staff
if
it
were
in
annex
they
might
need
to
hire
on
some
seasonal
staff,
or
something
like
that
so
and
to
the
question
of
like
why
isn't
step
involved?
Could
they
get
involved,
as
as
various
committee
members
have
brought
up,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
need
or
there's
a
perceived
need
for
a
lot
of
oversight
at
any
kind
of
service
that
service
providers
would
be
staffing,
and
this
is
a
time
of
extremely
constrained
funds.
B
As
you
know,
people
are
needing
to
organizations
are
laying
off
people
rather
than
hiring
so
for
a
lot
of
organizations
who
have
been
approached
to
provide
various
kinds
of
services,
and
I
don't
necessarily
mean
approach
by
me
and
ira,
and
you
know
it's
not
necessarily
that
we're
trying
to
drama
up.
B
You
know
we're
not
necessarily
you're
trying
to
lead
the
charge.
What
it
is
is
when
you
know
there's
an
identified
need
we
try
to
explore,
who
might
want
to
pursue
that
and
how
we
might
provide
technical
assistance.
But
what
I'll
say
is
staffing?
Isn't
it
is
extremely
expensive
and
the
same
concerns
that
all
of
you
normally
bring
up
in
terms
of
funding?
And
you
know
it's
like
if
somebody's
hired,
how
will
that
person
be
sustained
after
this
activity,
or
would
they
only
be
hiring
for
a
temporary
position?
B
I've
been
extremely
impressed
with
the
level
of
pivoting
that
our
community
organizations
have
been
doing
to
try
to
meet
the
various
kinds
of
needs
that
covet
has
brought
forward
while
being
under
a
tremendous
amount
of
financial
strain.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of.
B
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
a
question,
but
the
cost
could
tend
to
be
high
if
they're,
hiring
people
and
honestly
most
places
would
need
to
hire
people
to
be
able
to
staff
something
like
this
right.
Yes,.
E
Oh
sorry,
sorry
I
just
want
to
ask:
I
don't
have
a
good
sense
if,
on
the
one
hand,
all
the
places
where
people
used
to
go
are
closed,
the
library
churches
whatever
or
if,
on
the
other
hand,
there
are
a
lot
more
people
on
the
street.
I
I
have
an
idea
that
there
are
a
lot
more
people
on
the
street
than
in
previous
years,
but
do
we
know
if
the
unhoused
numbers
are
up,
or
is
it
just
that
all
the
places
where
unhoused
people
used
to
be
able
to
go
are
closed?
B
Okay,
in
terms
of
do
we
have
counts.
No,
we
don't
the
the
annual
pit
count.
The
hud
mandates
occurs
in
january
third
week
of
january
every
year,
and
it
would
be
a
I
don't
know.
Hud
has
not
issued
guidance
right
now
about
what
their
expectations
are
to
do
that
during
coven,
but
that
would
be
where
we
would
know
on
a
certain
night
in
january,
how
many
people
were
unstably
housed.
So
I
think
it's
a
number
of
issues
at
play.
B
I
think
that,
to
answer
your
question,
what
I
will
say
is
service
providers,
most
service
providers
that
provide
services
to
homeless
people
and
or
anybody
who's
in
a
vulnerable
population.
For
example,
staff
is
one
of
those
staff
doesn't
exclusively
serve
homeless
people,
they
serve
people
with
aids,
they
serve
people
who
have
other
needs
who
may
be
maybe
housed
permanently
housed,
maybe
an
unstable
housing
situation,
maybe
unhoused
and
there's
a
lot
of
agencies
in
the
community
do
exactly
that
they're,
not
they.
B
They
may
be
known
for
serving
a
mostly
homeless
population,
but
they
may
serve
actually
quite
a
broad
array
of
people's
vulnerabilities
and,
in
fact,
christina
culver
brought
that
very
thing
up.
The
large
number
of
those
that
they
serve
actually
have
housing.
It
may
not
be
optimal
housing,
they
may
be
couch
surfing.
B
B
B
Organizations
are
at
this
point,
there's
still
quite
a
lot
of
trying
to
operate
the
best
that
they
can
trying
to
provide
in-person
services
on
a
limited
basis.
It
might
be
by
appointment.
It
might
be
for
a
certain
window
of
office
hours.
It
might
be
the
social
distancing
model
where
like.
If
I
come
there
and
they're
meeting
with
somebody
already,
I
need
to
wait
until
they
can
see
me.
B
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
how
operations
are
occurring
right
now:
the
library
tompkins
county,
public
library,
the
last
I
checked-
and
actually
I
you
all
might
know
more
than
I
do
it
still
was
not
open
for
regular
browsing
hours
and
the
library
is
a
place
that
you
know,
as
we
know,
has
been
it's
pretty
well
utilized
by
people
who
are
unstably
housed
or
homeless.
B
So
so
that's
one
question:
are
these
gathering
spaces
closed
and
I
would
say
in
general,
yes
or
open,
you
know
for
very
limited
times
or
numbers
of
people.
Are
there
more
people
that
are
homeless
or
unhoused?
That's
a
question
that
a
lot
of
us
have
been
grappling
with
trying
to
find
out.
As
you
know,
the
eviction
moratoria
is
still
in
effect
from
the
cdc
until
the
end
of
december.
Yet
every
time
the
eviction
moratoria
is
amended
or
changed.
B
Usually
it's
more
specific,
ever
more
specific
about
the
moratoria
is
specific
to
people
who
have
a
covet
impact
so,
for
example,
the
docket
of
the
tompkins
county,
I'm
sorry,
not
tompkins,
county
city
of
ithaca
housing
court
shows
that
there's
two
eviction
proceedings
that
are
now
on
the
docket
for
december
now
those
would
have
been
initiated
before
covid.
B
They
would
have
been
in
arrears
before
kovid.
They
may
be
adjourned,
they
may
get
a
later
date,
but
they're
on
the
docket.
So
again
we
can't
necessarily
tell
from
that.
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
need
for
food,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
trying
to
prioritize
using
whatever
cash
that
they
have
to
pay
their
rent,
but
that
people
have
a
high
degree
of
needs,
and
so
you
know
and
something
that
we
haven't
even
touched
upon.
B
But
it
has
been
a
big
topic
of
concern
during
the
pandemic.
Is
people
who
are
living
in
situations
of
domestic
violence
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
alternatives
right
now,
so
you
know
they
may
be
not
able
to
get
relief
from
their
situation.
B
People
who
are
outside
who
are
congregating,
who
are
you
know
who
people
have
questions
about?
I
think
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
reasons
why
people
are
gathering
and
outside
what
I
will
say
is
if
you
have
for
people
who
have
a
decent
space
to
be
inside
during
cold
weather,
most
people,
I
think,
would
opt
for
that.
I
think
we
really
need
to
see
that
being
outside
even
for
activities
that
may
appear
outwardly
for
socializing
during
cold
weather
is
really
a
last
resort.
Activity
people
need
a
place
to
be
homeless.
B
People
do
not
have
places
to
be.
You
cannot
gather
on
private
property
unless
you
are
quote
unquote,
invited
by
the
law
right
so,
and
you
know,
and
generally
cities
and
municipalities
have
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
where
people
can
be
in
public
places,
so
being
homeless
is
really
a
situation
of
not
having
a
place
to
be,
and
not
wanting
people
to
be
in
a
particular
place
doesn't
solve
the
the
problem
that
that
person
has
of
needing
a
place
to
be
so.
B
A
Know
before
before
you
go
tracy,
I
just
want
to
quickly
say
we
have
three
other
items
on
the
agenda
that
I'm
sure
are
going
to
be
pretty
big
discussion
items
so
tracy,
and
then
we
should
move
on
in
our
agenda.
D
A
Okay-
and
this
is
all
of
course,
this
conversation
ties
into
the
next
resolution,
which
is
the
application
or
the
the
resolution
rather
for
staff
and
the
the
basic
sanitation
needs,
so
the
restrooms
and
hand
washing
stations.
A
So
that
resolution
was
sent
to
us,
I
think
everyone
sees
seeing
it.
That's
the
one
with
a
page
full
of
whereases.
A
We
and
the
resolution
looks
to
the
resolution,
recommends
that
the
city
authorized
through
iurra
authorized
an
allocation
of
up
to
seventy
five
hundred
dollars
from
the
coba
relief
funding
for
basic
sanitation
activity
to
be
implemented
by
the
southern
tier
aids
project
and
that
the
2019
hud
entitlement
action
plan
be
amended
to
include
this
activity
that
responds
to
and
promotes
prevention
of,
covent
19.
A
B
I
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
not
sure
if
everybody
was
on
when
I
mentioned
this
earlier,
that
this
resolution,
you
know,
as
with
all
all
resolutions
that
that
this
committee
considers
can
be
altered,
can
be
recommended
with
you
know,
different
provisions
or
conditions
or
alterations
to
what
you
see
now.
If
anybody
wants
some
background
on
how
this
resolution
came
to
be,
I
can
give
that.
I
know
that
you're
under
a
time
crunch
and
there's
also
a
tour
that
many
of
you
will
be
going
on
at
11
a.m.
C
C
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
let's
start
with
time
frame
is
this
for
covid
time
only
what
happens
when
we're
done
with
coven
say
a
year
or
two
years
from
now.
B
Okay,
so
the
estimate
for
the
cost
of
the
porta-potties
for
two
porta-potties
to
be
cleaned
at
least
once
a
week
with
hand
sanitizer
to
be
available
would
cost
for
a
year,
5
500,
I
believe
it's
like
I'm
sorry.
I
have
the
notes
for
the
monthly
breakdown,
but
so
the
the
amount
stated
is
for
a
year,
but
it
does
not
need
to
be
that
amount
it
could
be
month
by
month.
It
could
be
anything
but
to
your
question
about
covid,
it
is
specific
to
covet.
It
is
specific
to
addressing
a
need
related
to
covid.
B
The
funding
can
only
be
used
to
address,
needs
that
respond
to
or
prevent
or
otherwise,
address,
covid19,
and
that's
why
this
came
into
being
because
there
aren't
other
places
right
now
for
people
to
go
to
the
bathroom
and
preventing
disease
transmission.
C
That's
okay.
I
also
wondered
about
if
we
can
stipulate
somehow
the
location
of
where
these
would
be
on
the
property,
and
I
I
also
had
concerns
about
and
and
I'm
sorry
if
this
opens
up
anything
but
the
the,
whereas
that
says
that
that
the
stat
program
possesses
the
knowledge
and
administrative
capacity
to
administer
the
program.
C
Do
we
know
that
for
a
fact,
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
you're
talking
about
people
being
laid
off
and
people
having
a
hard
time
and
I'm
also
seeing
activity.
You
know
people
kind
of
hanging
out
there.
This
that's
my
other
question.
I
I
guess
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
why
we
need
to
provide
this.
Don't
people
just
go
there
and
exchange
or
get
a
new
needle
or
whatever,
and
leave?
Isn't
that
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing?
C
It
seems
to
me,
there's
more
more
of
a
hangout
piece
to
that
that
that
we
would
be
encouraging.
B
Okay,
so
the
reason,
so
let
me
try
to
work
backward
and
you're
and
I'll,
please
remind
me
of
anything,
I'm
not
getting
or
not
addressing
so
again,
the
group
of
service
providers
and
the
coc,
and
also
the
street
outreach
workers.
You
know
this
is
an
idea
that
you
know
not
an
idea.
This
was
something
that
they've
been
discussing
as
a
need.
People
need
a
place
to
utilize
restroom
facilities.
B
A
variety
of
service
providers
have
been
a
part
of
that
conversation
and,
honestly,
I
will
say
from
what
I
understand
is,
though,
service
providers
see
the
need,
that's
out
there,
because
people
don't
have
places
to
go.
The
restroom
and
my
understanding
from
conversation,
brief
conversation
I
have
with
joanne
cornish,
is
that
the
department
of
public
works
has
been
cleaning
up.
You
know
human
feces
throughout
the
city.
B
B
So
that
again,
this
was
a
conversation
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
that
I
had
with
joanne
or
joanne,
spoke
of
in
a
staff
meeting
that
we
had.
I
can
pursue
further
information,
but
so
the
service
providers
that
were
discussing
how
to
do
this,
a
number
of
service
providers
were
approached
with.
Would
you
be
willing
to
host
host
porta
potties
and
honestly?
B
I
think
the
service
providers
see
the
need
for
the
porta
potties,
but
see
their
own
constraints
and
being
able
to
provide
the
type
of
oversight
that
probably
that
they
would
feel
most
comfortable
with
or
and
so
on.
So
it's
not
an
easy
activity
to
gain
traction
for
in
terms
of
finding
a
host.
B
There
were
plenty
of
service
providers
that
suggested
places
that
they
think
that
they
would
be
that
the
porta
potties
would
be
needed,
but
same
service
providers
did
not
necessarily
feel
that
they
had
the
bandwidth
to
be
able
or
the
capacity
the
staff
capacity
to
provide,
whatever
oversight
might
be
needed.
Staff
happens
to
be
the
service
provider
who
expressed
willingness
to
do
so
among
a
bunch
of
service
providers
that
were
involved
in
a
discussion
so
but
you're
right
paulette.
I
think
that
their
capacity
is
very
limited.
B
C
If
it
works,
is
this
24
on
24-hour
operation?
In
other
words,
will
there
be
locks
overnight
when
no
one
is
there,
and
I
asked
this
from
a
kind
of
an
experience
when
we
had
a
24-hour
business,
the
overnight
situation
was
there
were
a
lot
of
things
going
on
then
that
don't
go
on
during
the
day
when,
when
the
place
was
more
populated,
so
everything
from
blood
from
people
shooting
up
to
a
death.
C
So
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
supervision
during
the
day
or
when
you
know
when
people
are,
there
is
one
thing.
I
wondered
how
the
the
security
for
overnight
would
be.
B
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
that
the
idea
of
the
porta
potties
is
that
they
would
just
they
would
be
available
unlocked
24
hours.
That's
my
understanding,
I
will
say
paulette
to
your
concerns.
B
B
These
were
the
same
kind
of
concerns
that
she
had
at
the
time,
and
she
said
that
those
concerns
in
the
jungle
have
not
come
to
the
fore
that
the
the
porta
potties
have
continued
to
be
used
for
what
they
need
to
be
used
for,
and
so
they
have
not
had
the
unfortunate
unintended
consequences
that
I
think
that
you
know.
People
rightly
fear,
that's
not
to
say
that
that
wouldn't
happen
in
a
different
site.
I'm
not
trying
to
say
that
that's
a
guarantee,
I'm
just
saying
that
that's
one
local
example.
B
C
Guess
I'm
saying
in
terms
of
this
particular
I
I
think
this
is
you
know
a
worthy
cause,
I'm
I
just
think
we
should
put
a
lot
of
stipulations
to
it,
so
that
it's
done
the
way
it
safely
and
the
way
we
need
it
to
happen.
F
What
kind
of
structure
are
we
talking
about
your
basic
individual,
poor
parties?
This
is
going
to
be
one
of
those
trailer
bathroom
facilities.
They
talk
about
restroom
and
hand
washing,
but
you
don't
describe
it.
B
Okay,
so
basic
porta
potties,
not
on
a
trailer
that
I
mean
when
I
called
the
brain
drain,
I
didn't
ask
for
a
trailer
and
they
gave
me
their
basic
kind
of
entry
level
quote.
There
cannot
be
water
hand
washing
during
the
winter
because
of
freezing
of
the
water.
It
has
to
be
hand
sanitizer
only
there's
I
mean
if
there's
other
options,
I
can
look
into
them,
but
this
includes
at
least
a
weekly
servicing
that
can
be
serviced
more
often.
F
F
F
A
D
Yeah,
I
I
have
had
concerns
with
the
maintenance
of
the
property
in
the
past
few
months.
Well,
probably
seven
months
are
people
being
encouraged
to
hang
out
there
now
or
or
stay
around
all
day.
They
seem
to
be
there.
There
used
to
be
signs.
That
said,
you're
not
allowed
to
be
on
the
property
when
the
the
agency
is
closed,
but
now
there
are
quite
a
number
of
people
all
the
time
and
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
trash.
A
You
know
before
you
answer
that
anissa
I
will
say
I
walked
by
their
tuesday
morning
and
there
was
someone
picking
up
trash
in
front
of
the
building
and
I
didn't
see
a
city
truck
there.
So
I
it
didn't
appear
that
it
was
a
city
employee.
So
that
made
me
wonder:
has
staff
started,
you
know
having
someone
cleaning
up
outside.
E
They've
been
working
on
it
and
they
got
a
dumpster
which
they
have
in
the
back
now,
which
I
think
made
a
big
difference
and
then,
as
soon
as
they
installed,
that
landmark
noticed
and
told
them
they
have
to
build
a
enclosure
for
it
because
it's
visible
from
the
street
because
because
the
trash
people
have
to
back
in
so
they
need
to
have
it
in
exactly
the
right
place.
So
they
can
pick
it
up
that
this
is.
E
Michelle
starts
with
an
m
mac
mac
on
the
I
don't
know
I
was
talking
to
her
yesterday
and
they
are
going
to
put
a
fence
which
will
close
the
back
parking
lot
area
at
night.
So
that's
coming
so
the
the
sharp
collector
is
going
to
move
out
front
because
that
has
to
be
available,
and
I'm
I
asked
her,
you
know
are
the
pop,
because
I
saw
this
resolution
and
she
happened
to
call
me
about
the
fence
issue
and,
I
said,
are
the
porta
potties?
E
You
know
going
to
be
right
out
front
and
she
kind
of
said
that
depends
on
whether
landmark
you
know
gives
them.
So
I
don't
know
if
that.
So
I
my
sense
was
they
wanted
it
to
be
available
24
hours,
so
they
would
put
it
in
the
front
yard,
but
if
they
have
to
put
it
in
the
backyard,
then
the
whole
backyard's
gonna
be
locked
when
the
staff
is
not
there
that
I
don't
know
how
long
it's
gonna
take
for
that
to
happen,
but
they
have
a
quote
for
the
fence
now
and.
D
E
E
Just
just
behind
the
air
conditioner,
I
think
okay,
so
she
said,
there's
going
to
be
a
vehicle
gate
and
then
a
pedestrian
gate,
so
that
people
can
so
that
during
the
day
the
pedestrian
gate
will
be
open
and
then
they'll
only
open
the
vehicle
gate.
When
because
I
think
it's
only
staff
that
parks
in
the
in
the
back-
I
don't-
I
don't
know,
but
I
told
them
I
would
pay
for
the
whole
thing
because
she
was
like
well,
we
can
get
this
fence,
but
we
have
no
money.
E
So
I
was
like
yes,
I
will
buy
a
fence
for
you.
This
is
why
I
I
know
stuff
about
the
fence,
but
the
you
know
I
I
really
want
a
portland
lou.
You
should
not
take
time
now,
but
just
go
home
and
google
or
you're
all
home
already
portland
lou.
But
you
know
I
don't
know
how
to
get
the
money
for
that.
It
would
look
so
cool
and
but
anyway,.
A
E
But
you
know
they're
not
cheap
anyway.
That's
that's
enough
of
that.
I
I
support
it
because
I
think
I
so
you
know
this
year
really
has
been
different
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
humans
defecating
on
our
little
front
lawn
there-
and
I
I
ranted
to
my
son
about
it
and
my
son,
who
is
a
poverty
lawyer
in
dc,
is
like
mom.
What
you
have
to
consider
is
all
the
bathrooms
are
closed.
There
are
no
bathrooms
for
these
people,
so
just
get
over
yourself,
so
we
need
bathrooms
for
these
people.
A
You
know
first
teresa,
it's
easy
for
your
son
to
say
that
right
he's
not
having
to
get
the
shovel
out.
I
I
support
this
too,
but
I
would
suggest
that
cleaning
more
than
once
a
week
is
going
to
be
needed.
A
F
F
You
know
they'll
have
the
money
to
extend
it,
but
this
might
be
something
to
just
think
about,
because
you,
you
don't
want
to
have
the
facility
and
if
it's
not
well
maintained,
it's
not
going
to
work
for
the
users
and
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
be
a
total
turn
off
for
everybody
in
the
community.
It's
just
not
going
to
succeed
as
a
as
an
effort,
so
it
needs
to
be
well
maintained.
I
think
go
ahead.
Denise.
B
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
the
estimate,
the
reason
that
the
resolution
says
up
to
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
twenty
dollars
is
two
reason.
One
is
eight
hundred
and
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
is
the
amount
remaining
in
our
first
tranche
of
cdbg
cv,
but
the
estimate
is
actually
for
a
year
of
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
a
funding.
B
There
is
once
a
week
cleaning
or
less
frequent,
but
it
works
out
to
be
about
fifty
five
hundred
dollars
for
two
porta
potties
for
a
year,
so
the
idea
of
including
an
amount
that
they
could
go
up
to
is
exactly
for
this
reason,
if
there
was
a
need
or
a
desire
to
see
it
clean
more
often,
I
don't
think
the
brain.
B
I
called
the
drain
brain
for
an
estimate.
I
don't
know
who
other
provider
who
liddy
barger
called
for
an
estimate,
but
so
I
did
not
ask
for
a
daily
cleaning
cost
and
I
don't
think
that
liddy
has,
but
we
can
ask
that
I
still
think
it
would
fit
within
the
8
000
mark
if
they
want
to
be
cleaned
every
day,
which
I
think
is
a
perfectly
reasonable
condition.
D
I
would
like
to
have
some
sort
of
condition
about
making
sure
that
the
whole
property
is
is
tidy
and
picked
up.
I
mean
I'm
glad
to
hear
teresa.
I
don't
walk
by
there
every
day
I
used
to,
but
it's
been
rather
daunting
by
the
crowds
of
people
in
the
trash
and
some
panhandling
and
certainly
no
masks.
D
D
E
It
because
I
think
that
people
are
people
were
were
on,
I
mean,
I
think
the
dumpster
helps
a
lot.
I
I
don't
know
it's
very
hard
to
know,
but
it's
definitely
but
the
mask.
I
mean
when
I
complained
about
the
masks.
She
said
that
they
have
50
000,
masks
and
they
hand
them
out
all
the
time,
but
a
lot
of
the
people
that
gather
are
not
their
clients
or
not
their
participants
or
whatever
their
word
is
so
I
think
it's
so.
D
E
Especially
when
they're
not
there
on
the
nights
and
the
weekends
and
the
cold
weather,
usually
it
dies
down,
but
if
people
have
no
place
to
go,
I
don't
know
so.
I
mean
we
really
just
need
places
where
people
can
be
indoors
where
we
don't
make
them
be
sober
or
it
doesn't
seem
like
rocket
science,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
get
it,
how
to
make
it
happen.
D
A
Right
and
as
as
we
just
talked
about
you
know,
it
is
an
issue
that's
being
worked
on
so
hopefully
we'll
have
a
resolution
here,
if
not
loaves
and
fishes
at
the
borg
warner
room.
Perhaps
the
friendship
center
will
be
able
to
find
some
place
but
yeah.
I
I
totally
agree
teresa
paulette.
C
I
would
like
I
would
like
to
have
had
someone
from
there
speak
to
us
and
so
that
we
could
ask
questions
of
them
directly.
C
My
guess
is
that
we're
under
a
tight
time
frame
now
because
winter's
hitting,
but
as
you
pla,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
interested,
but
as
you
plan
for
speakers
in
the
future,
this
is
one
group
that
I'd
really
like
to
hear
from
their
point
of
view,
what
they're
experiencing
and
and
how
this
is
working
out
for
them
yeah.
I
think.
C
A
B
I'm
sorry
if
that
was
an
oversight
on
my
part
on
monday
was
when
I
received
this
request,
and
I
discussed
it
with
nels
in
terms
of
being
able
to
get
it
to
the
ira
board
to
consider
before
december.
So-
and
I
also
just
want
to
underline
that
this
was
a
question
that
actually
the
request
came
from
the
coc
asking
if
we
could
support
this,
not
from
stap
itself,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
coc
and
other
service
providers
were
looking
for
hosts
for
porta
potties.
B
I
don't
think
that
this
is
you
know
I
just
I
I'll
just
repeat
what
I
said
before
staff
offered
to
host
them.
I
don't
think
it's
like
their
most
burning
desire
to
do
this.
I
think
they're
trying
to
provide
you
know
to
provide
a
to
meet
a
need
that
the
community
has
identified.
B
So
I
I
wanna
put
it
out
there.
I
think
that
stop
was
trying
to
you
know,
work
with
this
community
of
providers
and
I
think
that
you
all
have
many
important
concerns
and
questions
for
staff,
but
I
just
want
to
put
out
there.
I
don't
think
that
this
is
something
that
I
I
don't
want
there
to
be.
The
perception
that
staff
approached
me
and
didn't
give
enough
time
to
for
us
to
fully
consider
it.
It
was
actually
another
community
partner
that
approached
me
because
it's
seen
as
something
that's
they
commun.
B
B
B
B
D
As
can,
I
can
I
say
one
other
thing
I
mean
ultimately,
I
think
it
would
make
a
whole
lot
more
sense
if
a
port
of
porta
potty's
worth
the
at
the
human
services
building
parking
lot
they'd
be
right
next
door,
but
they'd
be
more
also
accessible
to
people
who
aren't
using
staff
and
then
maybe
all
those
people
who
are
just
being
there,
even
though
they're
not
clients,
but
you
know,
maybe
that's
another
topic
so.
B
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
human
services
parking
lot,
I
mean,
there's
a
large
parking
lot
there,
so
it
kind
of
makes
sense.
I
mean
both
the
city
and
the
county
could
also
host
these
could
host
porta-potties.
I
think
the
same
questions
would
come
up.
Who
would
who
would
oversee
them?
Would
they
be
available
at
night?
How
would
they
be
staffed?
How
would
they
be
overseeing?
Where
would
the
you
know
same
kinds
of
questions
would
would
also
come
up.
It
does
make
sense,
though
I
mean
tracy.
I
see
your
point.
A
So
my
question
would
be
you
know
what
kind
of
would
that
entail
a
delay
in
the
decision
because
it
would
have
to
go
through.
I
don't
know
if
the
county,
the
director
of
dss
could
say
or
commission
or
whatever
could
say
yes
or
if
we
have
to
go
through
the
county
legislature,
which
might
mean
a
delay.
B
I
have
some
information
there.
One
is
that
I
think
you
can
anticipate
that
anything
will
create
a
delay.
I
think
that
if
you
want
to
put
conditions
on
this
resolution
and
try
to
have
the
funding
available,
if
the
conditions
can
be
met,
that's
one
way
to
try
to
facilitate
both
the
situation
that
you
would
like
to
see
and
the
porta
potties
getting
funded
if
it
meets
those
conditions
without
further
delay.
That's
one
pathway.
B
Second
pathway
is
you
know
another
local
funder
could
try
to
take
this
up,
and
you
know
they
might
not
put
the
kinds
of
conditions
on
that
you
that
you
all
have
discussed,
so
it
might
be
seen
as
a
way
to
both
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
have
and
get
the
porta
potties
met.
If
you
do
that,
the
third
part
is
esg
funding,
which
is
emergency,
shelter,
grab,
funding,
cv,
covid
that
the
county
received
and
the
dss
is
administering
part
of
the
question
had
been.
B
I
think
this
this
proposal
had
originally
been
built
into
the
uses
of
funds
for
the
esg
funding.
However,
the
question
that
I
believe
was
raised
by
someone
with
knowledge
of
those
funds
was
that
it
can't
be
shown.
The
esg
funds
must
go
exclusively
to
people
who
are
homeless
and
it's
hard
to
demonstrate
that
with
a
porta
potty
that
only
people
that
are
homeless
are
using
it.
B
And
so
there
were
some
questions
about
how
they
would
comply
with
that
specification
from
hud,
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
this
port-a-putty,
the
policy
makers
with
knowledge
of
the
funds
inside
the
county
are
not
sure
that
they
can
meet
that
compliance
issue
and
they
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
were
asked.
If
we
could
do
it
with
cdbg
cv
funding
to
be
short.
A
My
sense
is
that
we're
not
asking
that
someone
else
fund
it
but
just
could
be
used.
Could
it
be
placed
on
county
property.
B
So
I'm
sorry
carl
part
of
the
reason
I
was
just
trying
to
get
back
around
to
why
that's
that
was
a
conversation
within
county
about
these
funds.
I
don't
know
why
they
haven't
volunteered
to
do
what
you
what
the
committee
members
have
asked
like.
Could
they
be
funded
by
another
entity
but
on
their
property?
I
don't
know
why
that
hasn't
been
considered.
Okay,
possibly
because
they
they
don't
want
to
ask
another
agency
to
fund
something
that's
going
to
be
on
their
own
property,
I'm
not
sure.
E
D
That
staff's
property
in
the
in
the
human
service
building
parking
lot
is
that
your
property.
E
Kind
of
goes
like
the
building
goes
in
where
the
cinder
block
connects
it
to
the
old
carriage
house
and
there's
like
a
little
door
that,
I
don't
think
is,
is
open
to
the
public,
but
they
because
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
where
they
would
relocate
the
needle
drop,
if,
if
they
put
a
fence,
so
we
were
pouring
over
the.
What
do
you
call
it?
The
survey
and
I'm
pretty
sure
their
property
extends
right
up
into
where
that
parking
lot
is.
E
So
if
and
there's
a
walkway
back
there
and
so
forth.
So
it
could
be
that
they
could
supervise
it.
It
could
be
on
their
property,
but
it
could
be
on
where
their
property
connects
to
that
dss
parking
lot,
and
that
might
solve
a
number
of
problems.
C
C
B
E
D
B
Okay,
can
I
weigh
in
on
something
there?
Yes,
I
could
be
wrong,
but,
and
I
can
definitely
ask
brian-
the
historic
preservation-
print
planner,
brian
mccracken,
just
for
consultation.
My
understanding
of
historic
districts
was
that
temporary
temporary
uses,
which
it
seems
like
the
dumpster,
would
be
a
temporary
use.
B
So
I'm
not
clear
on
that,
but
that
things
that
do
not
permanently
alter
any
facade
or
character
are
treated
differently
than
temporary
uses,
and
one
thing
that
this
group
did
talk
about
too
is:
does
it
need
to
be
for
a
whole
year?
Can
it
be
for
a
set
of
months
of
you
know?
Can
there
be
a
renewal
process,
something
like
that?
B
You
haven't
returned
to
that,
but
that's
a
thought-
and
I
can
reach
out
to
to
brian
about
that-
and
I
didn't
reach
out
to
him
initially,
because
my
understanding
was
it
was
a
temporary
use
had.
E
A
Right
so
we
you
know,
we
have
this
resolution,
but
then
we've
discussed
some
modifications,
tracy
mentioned
about
tying
it
to
the
property
in
general
being
being
kept
up.
You
know
we're
concerned
about
the
location.
A
So
that
raises
the
question
for
me:
where
does
this
put
the
resolution
you
know?
Do
we
pass
it
with
these
provisions
or
do
we
wait
and
find
out
more
information?
You
know
about
the
landmark
whether
the
party
parties
can
go
on
the
side
or
should
they
be
in
the
back?
Is
there
space
you
know?
Should
it
be
on
the
county
property?
You
know
where?
Where
does
that
leave
us
right
now.
E
D
D
I
would
like
a
trial
period,
yes,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
cleanup
that
you
say
is
getting
better
and
I
haven't
been
by
there
in
the
past.
Probably
five
days
has
been
better.
I
mean
I
have
been
alarmed
by
the
amount
of
trash
on
your
property
too
I'll
tell
you.
I've
seen
it
on
both
and
I've
seen
you
out
there
with
the
trash
bag.
D
So
I
and
I
feel,
like
the
customers,
are
spreading
the
wealth
a
little
too
generously
around
the
area
and
employees.
I
see
that
as
part
of
their
job.
If
people
throw
trash
in
front
of
my
house,
I
clean
it
up.
A
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
so.
It
sounds
like
we'd
be
satisfied
with
adding
that
this
would
be
for
a
six
month
period
of
time
and
we'll
revisit
it.
According
to
that
effect,.
D
E
I
don't
know
when
the
fence
is
going
to
happen
because
they
have
estimate
from
a
contractor.
Now
they
have
to
go
to
landmark
that
takes
a
couple
months.
Then
I
don't
know
if
they
can
put
it
in
when
the
ground
is
frozen
because
they
have
to
so.
The
fence
may
not
even
happen
until
spring,
but
I
have
a
commitment
from
them
now
that
a
fence
is
going
across
the
driveway.
D
E
I
just
have
14
people
who
can't
sleep
at
night
and
then
it's
I
mean
we
just
were
trying
to
get
a
fence
for
the
back,
the
part
where
they
have
the
patio
furniture,
but
they
say
they
have
in
the
front
of
the
driveway
because
they
can't
logistically
put
it
across
the
wider
part.
So.
E
Right
right
sort
of
where
that,
where
that
air
conditioner
is
so,
you
know
like
where
the
chimney
is,
there's
the
front
facades,
I
don't
even
know
if
landmark
is
going
to
go
for
it
because
they
told
us
we
could
fence
in
from
the
back
of
the
house
and
that
we
couldn't
have
a
fence,
so
they
may
make
them
try
to
push
it
back.
I
don't
know
I
just.
I
just
think
it.
If
you
had
a
patio
in
your
backyard,
you
wouldn't
be
hosting
screaming
parties
all
night,
because
you
live
in
the
house.
D
E
That's
what
I
mean
that'd
be
a
very
sad
conversation
because
she
said
that
they,
their
understanding
with
ipd,
is
that
ipd
has
permission
to
come
on
the
property
and
is
supposed
to
you
know,
respond
to
screaming
dangerous
fights
and
whatever
and
ipd
doesn't
like
to
go
back
there.
So
I
I
mean
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
know,
but.
A
Well,
we're
not
going
to
solve
that
issue
of
right
steps:
staffing,
anissa!
You
have
something
to
say
that
we
should
decide
on
this
resolution
and
move
on.
B
Yeah,
all
I
wanted
to
say
is
if
you
can
articulate
what
conditions
you'd
like
and
I
can
reach
out
to
staff,
and
I
can
try
to,
of
course,
you'd
be
recommending
this
to
the
ira
board.
I
can
meet
as
long
as
staff
is
willing
to
meet
with
me.
I
can
meet
with
them
before
the
ira
board
meeting
and
try
to
have
answers
to
the
specific
conditions
that
you'd
like
I
don't
know.
If
that
would
help
carl
and
tracy
as
members
of
the
ira
board.
B
C
I
have
a
quick
question
and
a
suggestion
that
in
the
first
resolved
we
put
the
six
months
there
and
I'm
wondering
the
question:
is
I'm
wondering
if
we're
doing
it
for
six
months
and
for
a
year
it
would
be
fifty
five
hundred
if,
if
we
would
cut
the
amount
to
three
thousand,
that's
a
question
to
ensure
that,
after
six
months
that
we
would
review
this
ridiculous.
B
Just
on
the
the
point
of
the
the
funding,
you
can
change
the
funding
amount,
but
you
can
also
just
I
believe
you
can
put
the
condition
in
that
future
funding.
You
know
after
x,
time
is
contingent
on
meeting
those
conditions.
B
The
only
reason
I'm
mentioning
this
is
for
a
total
back
office
issue,
which
is
a
contract
will
be
developed
for
this,
no
matter
the
amount
of
the
size
of
the
funding
and
if
it
needs
to
you
know,
if
we
keep
needing
to
modify
the
contract,
that's
additional
time
and
staff
resources,
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
small
contracts
that
sometimes
seem
to
be.
B
No,
I
take
it
back.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
small
contracts.
The
reason
we
don't
is
because
you
know
there's
there's
an
efficiency
issue
there.
So.
B
Yes,
abundant
concerns,
but
I'm
not
sure
which
are
your
priorities
that
are
the
actual
conditions.
If
you
could-
or
I
mean
I
don't
know,
if
we,
if
all
of
the
concerns
could
possibly
be
met,
so
could
gotcha.
C
D
D
D
B
F
Well,
yeah!
Oh
I
I
disagree
with
limited
to
six
months.
I
do
agree
with
you
know,
requesting
some
sort
of
evaluation
of
how
things
are
going
in
six
months
and
maybe
the
city
can
reserve
the
right
to
step
down
or,
to
you
know,
end
funding
at
that
time.
If
things
are
really
not
going
well,
so
some
sort
of
evaluation,
but
I'd
like
to
secure
the
money
for
the
year.
F
You
know
it
seems
like
you
know
this
would
be
the
time
to
do
it
and
with
the
expectations
of
things
the
program
will
take
place
and
will
take
place
in
a
way
that
will
that
would
be
acceptable
as
far
as
the
design
stuff.
You
know,
I've
heard
the
discussion.
F
I
just
don't
think
we're
we're
the
right
venue
to
do
the
site,
design
we're
talking
about
the
fans,
but
is
it
possible
that
there's
some
other
solution
I
mean
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
opportunity
to.
F
Request
that
they
do
some
sort
of
site
design,
what
what
other
than
just
dropping
a
couple
of
portal
bodies
there?
What
other
thinking
have
they
given
to
how
this
is
going
to
fit
into
the
space
and
how
it
affects
neighboring
properties,
etc.
F
The
flow
of
people
in
and
out,
and
certainly
you
guys,
are
obviously
much
more
familiar
with
the
side
than
I
am,
but
it'd
be
nice
to
have
some
sort
of
formal
just
to
see
that
some
sort
of
report,
something
that
they've
looked
at
this,
and
this
is
what
they're
proposing
it's
not
just
getting
the
science,
but
it's
how
they
fit.
F
D
F
And
that
might
be
right
there
you're
saying
what
what
is
coming
out
of
this
committee
right
now
is
what
you
just
said.
You
know
we
support
the
project,
it
should
be
accompanied
by
a
site,
design
and
a
maintenance
plan
and
before
they
agree
before
the
city
signs
the
agreement.
You
know
we're
going
to
agree
to
this
resolution,
but
you
also
say
you
know
we
can
make
it
clear
that
this
this
additional
component
should
be
taken.
F
A
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
keep
this
moving.
You
know
we
there's
so
many
conditions
and
I'm
not
even
sure
if
anissa
was
able
to
capture
them
all,
then
we
may
do
indeed
need
to
table
this
until
next
month.
A
Well,
I
would
think
that
once
we
approve
it,
then
staff
would
be
able
or
whoever
the
coc
would
be
able
to
order
the
port-a-potties
that
have
been
placed
fairly
quickly.
So
the
delay
would
be
what
a
month
and
a
week,
maybe
so
say
with.
I
would
think
they'd
get
in
place
within
a
week
of
us
approving
it,
but
maybe
not
I'll
defer
to
a
nissa
on
that.
No
okay.
A
B
F
Make
sense
to
I'm
sorry
to
add
a
requirement
for
a
maintenance
plan
and
some
sort
of
site
evaluation
or
approval
as
part
of
that
contract.
As
part
of
that
agreement,
you
know
the
first,
you
sign
the
agreement.
The
first
thing
you
need
to
do
is
you
know,
get
a
site
evaluation
development
maintenance
plan.
Then
you
move
to
the
second
part
of
the
contract,
which
is
installing
the
thanks.
I
mean,
can
you
do
it
within
the
agreement.
B
Are
you
asking
me
that
me
okay?
I
think
that
again
you
can
place
as
many
conditions
as
you
see,
necessary.
Stat
may
not
be
able
to
meet
the
conditions,
in
which
case
the
project
would
not
go
through,
but
the
funding
that
was
available
for
the
project
if
the
conditions
were
met
were
met
would
be
there.
So
if
the
conditions
aren't
met,
the
funding
won't
go
through
my
under
to
answer
previous
questions.
B
My
understanding
of
staff's
plan
was
that
the
porta
potties
would
go
in
front
on
the
street
side
of
the
gate,
the
gate
and
the
fence
that
teresa's
described
in
front
of
that
in
the
driveway,
but
it
wouldn't
be
blocking
the
driveway
right
so
that
you
know
cars
and
pedestrians
would
be
able
to
get
through.
So
the
exact
place
placement
in
their
front
yard,
I'm
not
sure
they
would
be
temporary.
It's
a
code
specific
need.
So
it's
not
that
you
would
be
funding
them
forever.
You
could
do
six
months.
B
You
could
do
a
contingent
on
when
there's
you
know
widely
available
vaccine.
All
of
those
things
again,
stat
main
you
can
place
the
conditions
and
then
you
could
perhaps
be
able
to
see
some
of
the
results
of
the
conditions
that
you'd
like
to
see
like
the
trash,
pickup
and
so
on.
You
may
also
have
the
the
situation
where
step
decides
like
okay,
you
know
we
agree
with
you.
We
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
the
porta-potties,
the
porta-potties
don't
happen.
C
E
C
I
have
to
say
something
my
my
husband's
doctor
just
called
and
he's
moved
up
the
appointment
from
11
till
to
10
minutes
from
now,
so
I
have
to
get
off
I'm
so
sorry,
I
I
hope
we
can
come
to
resolution
on
this.
I'm
glad
my
leaving
still
gives
you
a
quorum,
so
you
can
move
on
it
if
you
wish.
Okay,
thank
you
have
a
good
day.
All.
A
Yeah
boys
is
a
tough
one.
I
again
I
come
back
to
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
do
this
effectively.
I
mean,
I
think
we
all
agree
with
support
having
the
porno
parties
there,
it's
how
to
ensure
that
the
concerns
are
addressed
and
it
addressed
in
a
manner
that
step
can
can
meet,
because
I
I
don't
think
it
would
be
productive
for
us
to
put
requirements
in
that
that
we
can
reasonably
guess
that
staff
cannot
meet.
A
A
I
I
guess
it's
not
even
fair
to
say
their
population,
the
population
that
hangs
out
there
with
the
trash
and
all
the
impacts
on
the
neighbors
so
far
I-
and
so
that
would
worry
me
if
the
porta
potties
were
close
to
the
street
again,
because
that's
just
going
to
increase
the
impact
on
the
neighbors
on
the
folks
walking
by
the
population
certainly
needs
this
service,
so
I'm
not
sure
we
have
to
figure.
A
So
perhaps
we
can
pass
the
resolution
but
put
those
conditions
contingent
upon
those
conditions
that
have
been
articulated.
I
think
teresa
said
there's
no
one.
There,
no
staff
staff
working
on
the
weekend
she's
also
said
that
they
don't
have.
They
barely
have
any
money
to
stay
open.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
say
seven
days
a
week
when
we
know
that
it's
not
a
condition
they
can't
they
can
meet.
A
A
So
can
we
pass
the
resolution
list,
these
contingent
items
for
them
to
meet
and
then
revisit
this
when
we
have
more
information
next
week,
I'm
not
sure
how
you
know,
or
even
at
the
ira
board
meeting
in
what
two
weeks
or
whatever
it
is.
E
Is
there
a
way
that
they
could
make
a
presentation
at
the
ira
board
meeting
and
then
it'd
be
passed?
Then
I
mean
because
it
seems
it
feels
like
a
thing
where
there
would
be
an
application.
We
would
discuss
it,
we
would
hear
from
the
person
or
we
would
send
them
our
questions.
But
since
it's
an
emergency,
it's
happening
differently.
If
I'm
understanding
it
right.
B
Okay,
so
I
can
reach
out
to
step
I
can
discuss
with
them.
I
can
see
when
they
might
be
available
to
do
a
presentation.
I
can't
speak
to
whether
or
not
they
could
do
it
at
the
ira
board
meeting.
I
also
don't
know
what
else
nils
has
on
the
agenda
for
the
ira
board
meeting.
I
want
to
just
clarify
again
that
this
request
came
to
me
through
coc.
B
I
don't
know
if
it's
categorized
as
an
emergency
or
not.
The
idea
was
if
we
want
to
try
to
have
something
in
place
sooner
rather
than
later
for
the
winter
months.
You
know
it's
to
carl's
point.
You
know
you
can
table
it.
You
can
ask
me
to
have
staff
come
to
the
next
ni
meeting.
You
can
I
mean
whatever
whatever
your
direction
is.
I'm
I'm
here
for
you.
E
A
A
D
D
Right
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
we
are
in
favor
of
doing
something
there,
although
I
would
prefer
that
it
was
at
the
county,
as
I've
said,
and
you
know
I'd
also
like
something
on
the
comments,
but
that's
a
whole
nother.
We
don't
have
to
get
into
that
right
now,
but
yeah
in
favor
of
doing
something.
But
I
want
to
know
exactly
what
we're
doing.
F
I
would
say
this
more
specifically.
I
think
this
proposal
needs
to
be
accompanied
by
a
a
design
plan
which
doesn't
mean
you've
got
to
hire
an
architect,
so
might
just
give
us
some
thought
and
put
it
on
paper.
This
is
where
it's
going
to
be
located.
This
is
how
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
on
the
neighbors
and
and
a
maintenance
plan.
Something
else
is
how
we're
going
to
take
care
of
it.
A
A
Okay,
so
all
in
favor
of
tabling
the
motion
for
funding
for
the
porta
potties
until
our
november
meet
whoever
december
meeting
all
in
favor
all
right,
unanimous.
A
All
right:
well,
thanks,
denise.
I
know
that
that
was
a
lot
of
questions
and
concerns
thrown
at
you.
But
do
you
feel
that
you've
captured
all
the
concerns.
A
Okay,
in
terms
of
our
remaining
items
on
our
agenda,
I
think
item
c
the
discussion
on
supporting
black
businesses.
We
can
move
that
until
next
month.
A
I
think
the
program
updates
if
we
could
probably
go
over
that
quickly
because
I
think
that's
important
and
then
any
the
grant
summary
is
pretty
well
straightforward.
I
think,
even
though
it's
shock
full
of
of
information
and
then
the
staff
report,
do
we
agree
on
that.
B
A
B
Really
I
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
that,
in
speaking
with
or
funded
activities,
I've
really
been
impressed
with
the
level
of
adjustment
that
really
all
the
funded
activities
have
been
attempting
to
make
in
the
face
of
cobit,
to
be
able
to
reach
their
intended
beneficiaries
to
be
able
to
comply
with
the
contracts
that
they
have
with
us.
B
B
One
one
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight
under
the
new
and
emerging
programs,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
people
have
been
aware
is
that
you
know
there
was
a
an
effort
through
a
community-based
group
at
west
village
apartments,
in
partnership
with
dr
nian
nunn,
to
set
up
podca
classes
for
children,
school-aged
kids,
who
live
in
west
village
or
in
lower
west
hill,
to
be
able
to
have
a
you
know,
augmented
educational
support
during
this
time
of
coed,
and
they
spoke
to
jerry
deeds
of
the
just,
because
center
were
able
to
secure
space
there
to
meet
in
rotation
at
least
twice
a
week,
different
age
groups
and
so
on,
specifically
to
do
things
like
physical
education
and
arts
education,
which,
though
people
might
think
I
mean
this,
is
my
own.
B
Sorry
I'm
adding
this
in.
But
I
think
those
are
two
very
appropriate
things
to
do
in
a
pod
situation,
because,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
challenges
that
come
from
trying
to
learn
by
zoom
is
the
completely
one
way
of
learning
and
kids
do
need.
You
know
other
outlets
to
be
able
to
increase
their
learning.
There's
a
lot
of
studies
that
haven't
done
that,
so
I
was
very
impressed
with
this
effort.
They
have
not
come
forward
to
ira
or
anybody
in
the
community
that
I'm
aware
of
for
funding.
B
For
that,
and
though
I
was
in
touch
with
the
coordinators
before
it
started,
I
haven't
checked
in.
I
just
want
to
get
that
on
your
radar.
It's
something
that
I
think
is
really
cool
that
really
meets
a
need
for
school-aged
children
who
might
not,
who
would
not
have
access
to
the
private
pods
that
other
other
families
are
setting
up.
Can.
B
D
B
I
also
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
hsc
is
moving
forward
with
something
that's
been
discussed
in
the
community
for
a
number
of
years,
a
program
to
assist
people
with
section
8
vouchers
in
locating
landlords
that
will
be
willing
to
to
rent
to
them
by
doing
specific
outreach
to
landlords
and
specific
understanding
of
what
the
landlord's
needs
are
to
understand
that
program
that
has
part-time
funding
right
now
through
hse,
and
I've
been
meeting
with
that
that
staff,
member
and
other
stakeholders
to
try
to
move
that
forward.
B
So
again,
you
may
be
hearing
more
information
about
that
in
the
future,
so
other
than
that.
The
main
takeaways
that
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
on.
Your
radar
are
at
the
bottom
there
for
community
discussion.
This
can
be
for
a
future
committee
meeting,
but
that,
as
you'll
notice
on
the
grant
summary,
some
of
the
2019
programs
have
not
been
fully
drawn
down
for
their
funding
and
probably
cannot
be
so
the
not
that
they're
they're
continuing
to
work
but
they're,
just
not
going
to
meet
the
december
31st
expiration
date
now.
B
Normally
the
process
is
for
those
for
those
projects
to
submit
a
letter
for
approval
to
nells.
The
director
of
community
development
is
authorized
by
ira
to
give
the
first
extension
of
120
days
to
any
program
that
he
sees
fit
who's
requested
it.
B
So
one
idea
I
had
to
after
I
gather
more
information
to
bring
to
the
committee.
Maybe
a
resolution
asking
you
know
to
be
able
to
make
that
extension
automatic
or
discuss
with
nell
some
way
to
do
that,
to
reduce
the
burden
on
the
on
the
organization
to
provide
the
documentation,
the
paperwork
to
submit
that
an
idea
just
putting
it
on
your
radar
may
or
may
not
happen
same.
A
Thing
a
quick
question:
has
hud
given
us
more
leeway
to
take
certain
actions
to
extend
deadlines
because
of
coven.
B
Well,
we
we
already
have
tools
that
I
mean
that
don't
require
covet
specific
waivers,
but
there
are
also
code
specific
waivers.
Okay,.
B
Evidence
that
these
organizations
have
really
been
working
and
trying
throughout
the
period
of
time
of
covid,
but
these
are
this-
is
funding
that
is
not
covet-specific
funding.
That's
our
regular
action
plan
funding.
D
B
The
ones
I've
talked
to
are
at
the
on
the
front.
I
enumerated
them
on
the
front.
I
don't
think
any
of
them
are
in
trouble.
What
I
mean
is
these
would
normally
be
coming
forward
for
action.
Probably
anyway,
we
usually
have
a
number
of
groups
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
need
more
time
to
complete
their
activities.
I'm
merely
thinking
that
we
might
be
able
to
ease
their
burden
in
some
way
by
trying
to
make
it
automatic
that
they
don't
have
to
come
through,
but
they
still
would
have
to
comply
and
everything.
B
That's
I'm
merely
floating
that
idea
or
putting
it
on
your
radar.
It
may
not
be
necessary
same
thing
with
achieving
their
beneficiary
numbers.
As
an
example,
specific
example
http,
I
think,
has
done
you
know
a
lot
to
modify
their
program
so
that
they
can
continue
to
meet
their.
You
know
their
contracted
agreements,
they're
doing
a
hybrid
class.
Some
people
are
on
zoom.
B
Some
people
are
in
person,
they're-
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
reach
the
the
numbers
that
they
projected
back
in
2018
when
they
applied
for
this
2019
funding
it
may
be
they
need
an
adjustment
of
you
know.
A
few
people,
as
I
anticipate
many
projects,
would
need
that.
So
I'm
investigating,
with
charles
and
nells
a
recommendation
that
we
may
bring
forward.
B
We
do
have
to
document
each
and
every
beneficiary,
as
you
well
know,
to
hud,
so
we'll
need
to
provide
documentation
ahead
to
why
not
every
you
know
if
they
couldn't
reach
their
contracted
amount.
Why
not?
And
the
reason
why
not
is
coded
so
you
may
be
seeing
some
future
discussion
about.
A
A
All
right
any
questions
about
that.
I
think
it's
we're
not
surprised
that,
given
the
current
circumstances,
that
some
of
our
programs
aren't
meeting.
B
B
Okay,
so
what
it
means
is
that's
like
an
internal
note.
That
means
that
they're
not
on
track
for
having
spent
it
down
quickly
enough
and
that's.
B
B
A
No,
no,
you
understood,
I
was
asking
just
about
our
more
not
so
much
for
our
obligations,
but
the
obligations
of
our
fund,
fundees
for
us
to
be
able
to
to
to
you
know,
have
greater
flexibility
in
giving
them
leeway,
but
thanks
yeah
and
both.
But
both
questions
are
important.
B
Yes,
so
a
couple
things
quickly,
as
I
indicated,
I
spoke
to
sue
dale
hall
of
the
child
development
council
and
I
will
say
that,
as
I
know,
this
group
has
been
concerned
from
the
beginning
about
the
child
care
infrastructure
in
our
community
and
sue
also
has
those
concerns.
B
You
know,
as
this
committee
is
well
aware,
child
care
programs
of
any
size
are
really
driven
by
parent
fees,
the
parents
paying
the
fees
to
make
the
program
go
and
the
child
care
providers
are
regulated
as
to
how
many
staff
that
they
have
to
have
in
place
for
like
from
the
lowest
number
of
students
that
they
have
to
the
highest
number.
So,
even
if
they
have
a
minimum
threshold
of
five
students,
they
have
to
have
the
same
staffing
numbers
as
if
they
had
10
students.
Does
that
part
make
sense?
B
Okay.
So
if
they're
at
the
very
lowest
amount
of
their
number
of
students,
they
may
not
be
meeting
their
fixed
costs,
and
so
this
is,
you
know
this
is,
I
think,
an
issue
that
you
know
nationwide
because
of
our
how
our
child
care
system
works.
Is
that
a
lot
of
the
area?
Daycare
providers
are
barely
keeping
afloat
during
this
time
so
sue,
and
I
had
a
you
know,
discussion
about
that.
She
has
some
materials
that
she
can
share
with
this
group.
B
I
don't
know
if
the
group
is
interested
in
understanding
where
she
might
see
resources
being
well
utilized
if
ira
identifies
it
as
a
need.
I
will
say
also
as
another
aspect
of
the
staff
report,
that
the
city's
controller
and
the
mayor,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
ira,
are
looking
at
ways
to
deploy
cdbgcv
funding,
to
be
able
to.
B
B
You
know,
leslie
really
sees
the
need
for
them
to
restart
the
programming
that
they
have
available
for
school
age,
kids
and
the
cdbg
cb
funding
could
be
utilized
to
fund
that
again,
giac
is
a
place
that
I
was
very
impressed
with
a
number
of
ways
that
they've
been
able
to
pivot
to
continue
to
provide
services,
especially
we
spoke
in
depth
about
their
senior
program,
really
impressive.
B
What
they've
done
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
this,
the
seniors
have
the
ability
to
connect
via
zoom
and
still
meet
as
a
group
via
zoom
and
deliver
meals,
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
I,
to
my
mind,
really
impressive
and
above
and
beyond.
As
far
as
trying
to
get
this
some
of
the
seniors,
the
computer
equipment,
they
would
need
to
do
zoom
and
then
orienting
the
seniors
who
may
have
never
used
a
computer
presumed
to
how
to
do
that
so
that
they
could
stay
connected.
B
That's
just
one
small
example
of
you
know
something
that
I
think
is
a
real
bright
spot
in
the
community
so
to
to
review.
We
could
have
sue
dale
hall
come
in
and
speak
in
the
future.
You
will
probably
be
seeing
more
information
coming
forward
about
the
city's
desire
to
deploy
cdbg
cb
funding
for
uses
within
city
departments
that
are
com.
They
would
have
to
be
compliant
in
every
way
of
course.
B
Thirdly,
the
inhs
emergency
rental
assistance
program,
as
you
may
be
aware,
that's
been
being
drawn
down
very
slowly,
they're
still,
half
half
of
the
available
assistance
needed.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
com
questions
community-wide
from
the
ira
board
from
inhs
itself
from
other
service
providers.
It's
like.
Why
is
it
not
being
drawn
down
more
quickly?
B
B
So
to
that
note,
leslie
mcbean
has
suggested,
and
I
will
be
meeting
with
her
and
probably
the
county,
planner
david
west
and
inhs
next
thursday
to
discuss
an
event
at
g
x,
social
existence
event,
probably
in
the
jack,
the
jack
gym
with
staff
members
from
giac
on
at
like
a
teleconference
with
inhs
staff
members
to
try
to
help
people
through
the
process
of
applying
for
e-wrap
funding.
Leslie
herself
talked
to
five
community
members
that
she
helped
navigate
through.
B
Not
all
five
could
qualify,
but
this
really
brought
up
to
her
the
need
for
a
navigator,
so
we're
gonna.
Try
to
see
that
happen.
I
think
that's
extremely
promising
so
nells
had
asked
me
to
bring
to
you
a
simple
verbal
resolution
to
see
if
you're
willing
to
consider
the
the
g
contract.
I'm
sorry,
the
a
the
inhs
contract
for
emergency
rental
assistance
currently
expires
december
31st
of
2020..
B
Extending
that
through
june
31st
of
2021
would
allow
for
further
outreach.
It's
on
the
same
track
as
the
other
funding
that
they
have
that
is
set
to
expire
on
that
date
and
now's
would
have
the
ability
to
still
extend
it
120
days
beyond
that,
if
needed,
without
coming
to
the
ira
board.
Further.
F
B
Okay,
so
would
so
I
heard
from
the
group
in
the
last
the
last
section
that
you
would
like
to
hear
from
stapp
next
month
we
noticed-
or
I
noticed
that,
the
last
time
we
had
two
presenters
we
might
not
have
had
enough
time.
Would
you
like
to
hear
from
sue
dale
hall?
D
A
B
Okay,
finally,
I'm
beginning
consultations
for
the
action
plan
for
2021.
I
anticipate
that
it
will
be
entirely
online,
just
as
actually
we
did
last
year.
B
So
that
work
has
already
begun
and
I
will
have
some
community
wide
events
available
on
zoom,
as
I've
done
in
the
past,
to
for
to
be
able
to
orient
people
to
how
headphones
can
be
utilized.
A
B
I
will
be
going
at
a
different
time.
Please
remember,
I
think
you
probably
saw
the
email
that
leslie
will
be
giving.
The
tour
is
coming
directly
from
another
meeting,
so
she
won't
be
able
probably
to
be
there
in
advance
if
you
just
want
to
arrive
right
on
time.
B
A
B
I
believe
on
the
kyuge
street
side,
but
after
this
meeting
I
will
text
nells
who's
also
coming
too
and
obviously
nels
knows
all
of
you
and
we'll
be
able
to
round
you
up
and
I'm
eric
rosario
wanted
to
attend,
but
is
unable
to
and
I'm
going
to
be
unable
to
attend
today.
So
I've
reached
out
to
leslie
to
see
if
I
can
set
up
another
alternate
date
to
view
it.
A
A
A
All
right,
we
will
call
our
meeting
we'll
adjourn
and
I'll
see
some
of
you
at
least
tracy,
and
fernando
and
well
shortly.
Actually,
it's
10
37
all
right
thanks.
Everyone
have
a
great
weekend.
B
A
B
A
B
Meeting
maybe
nells
needed
to
use
our
zoom,
so
I'm
gonna
leave
and
I
know
that
carl
carl's
gonna
leave.
But
until
you
leave.