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A
Sure
yeah,
so
this
is
our
you
know.
Our
quarterly
schedule
is
set
up
to
do
independent
contractors
in
january
review,
the
financials
and
audit
in
april.
The
fall
is
the
budget.
It's
escaping
me
exactly
what
the
summer
one
was
now.
Maybe
it
was
strategic
planning.
I
can't
remember
at
the
moment,
but
I
have
those
other
ones
linkedin,
and
so
this
is
an
important,
timely
meeting,
because
our
independent
contractor
agreements
expire
at
the
end
of
february.
A
So
we
tried
to
bring
those
forward
to
the
to
the
ira
in
late
january
and
we
have
built
all
these
independent
contractor
services
into
our
budget
approval
for
legal
and
community
development
services,
so
these
are
consistent
with
the
budget
as
approved,
although
you
certainly
have
the
flexibility
to
make
modifications,
so
the
first
one
up
is
is
for
we
have
three
categories:
three
proposed
extensions
of
contracts
for
legal
services.
We
did
a
rfp
in
2019,
so
we,
this
is
our
final,
our
final
and
third
year
of
those
continuations.
A
If
we
want
to
continue
those,
otherwise
we
can
go
seek
out
new
services
at
any
time.
So
we
have
currently
under
contract
maria
gelden
heist,
sharon,
salumiwitz
and
dick
reswick
under
the
law
forum
of
levine.
A
Yeah
and
thompson,
so
the
these
are
all
three
resolutions
recommending
continuation
of
services
through
those
through
those
contractors
for
legal
services,
the
first
one
up
is
murray
at
gildan
heist
and
I've
built
into
the
resolution
specified
the
proposed
2021
rate.
There's
a
five
dollar
per
per
hour
increase
up
to
230
dollars
and
the
maximum
budget
amount
is
proposed
to
be
twelve
thousand
dollars.
A
Marriott's
being
asked
to
play
a
pretty
significant
role
in
the
property
conveyances
for
the
green
street
garage
project,
so
expect
that
we
will
draw
on
a
good
amount
of
those
funds.
Those
costs
are
reimbursable
from
the
city.
If
they're
incurred
on
the
green
street
garage
project
and
we've
been
pleased
with
marriott's
continued
services.
C
All
right
we
can
have
discussion
is,
is,
is
there
of
course,
but
would
someone
like
to
move
this
resolution
for
discussion
purposes.
E
Oh
just
simply
state
that
I
will
be
voting
against
this
because
of
concerns
with
property
transfer
actions,
transactions
by
this
office
and
different
project
on
a
diff
on
in
different
projects
for
different
clients
that
were
unsatisfactory,
and
I
will
vote
against
it.
E
Oh-
and
I
also
I
guess,
I
would
also
raise
the
question
of
in
the
future
as
people
age
out
or
choose
to
retire.
You
can
address
this
now's
now
or
at
a
later.
D
E
What
is
the
process
that
we
should
be
doing
to
have
ourselves
a
field
of
new
people
to
pick
from,
as
opposed
to
just
having
the
attorney
who's
retiring
hand?
You,
someone
and
say
here,
take
this
person.
E
Perhaps
we
would
like
to
be
involved
in
reviewing
vetting,
selecting
and
opening
our
our
services
service,
app
opportunities
to
attorneys
in
the
local
market.
A
Right,
the
the
the
every
three
year
minimum
a
three-year
rfp
process,
provides
an
opportunity
to
seek
out
other
other
providers,
and
we
also
can
do
that
any
at
any
time.
If
we
want
to
you
know
to
the
extent
the
budget
allows
it,
you
know,
seek
out
other
professional
service
contractors.
A
So
I
think
we
have
an
you
know.
We
have
both
those
options
available,
we're
planning
to
go
out
with
an
rfp
next
year,
and
I
and
I
I
will
address
the
specific
question
you
raised
about
the
you
know
right
impending
retirement
of
dick
russwick.
When
we
get
to
that
resolution.
C
Great
yeah,
so,
basically,
every
three
years
when
we
do
the
rfp,
we
are
opening
up
ourselves
to
new
candidates
in
a
competitive
way
and
we'll
be
going
through
that.
I
think
this
is
the
last
year
right
that
we
can
do
one
year,
extensions
of
each
of
these
contracts.
That's
correct!
Yes,
okay,
then
thank
you
sue
any
comments
from
kathy
or
dave
david.
C
Great,
let
me
just
make
sure
that
I'm
seeing
everyone,
because,
okay,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
this
resolution,
hi
all
those
against.
E
C
And
and
so
that
carries
three
to
one.
E
A
Leading
with
eric
go
ahead
now,
yes,
so
we
have
sixteen
thousand
dollars
in
our
budget
for
additional
legal
services.
Last
year
we
divided
it
six
thousand
for
sharon
slimowitz
and
ten
thousand
for
dick
crestwick,
and
you
know
we
thought
about
a
little.
I
think
susan
is
exactly
right.
We
want
to
have
a
stable
of
people
that
we
can
call
on,
because
there
are
conflicts
of
interest.
There
are
workload
issues
and
we,
you
know
we.
A
We
have
an
aging
out
of
our
professionals
as
well,
eventually
at
some
point,
so
we
want
to
keep
that
as
a
robust
group
that
has
you
know,
you
know
kind
of
skill
sets
that
that
serve
the
ira's
needs.
So
dick
was
a
so
we're
kind
of.
A
So
they
are
working
to
close
that
agreement
by
april
of
this
year
now
that
they
have
received
the
funding
dick
also
brought
in
a
skill
set
of
working
of
of
deep,
deep
experience
with
bankruptcy
issues
at
a
commercial
and
personal
level,
which
was
which
we
called
on
occasionally
for
those
services.
So
that
was
another
skill
set
dick
had
you
know
they
also
conducted
contract
reviews.
All
of
our
legal.
You
know,
contractors
do
contract
review
for
us,
sharon
has
been
taking
up
some
of
those
contract
reviews
and
increasing
number
and
doing
more.
A
Some
of
that
work
and
dick
has
been
kind
of
focused
on
the
home
program.
That's
the
way,
we've
kind
of
split
it
up
internally.
We
we
switch
around.
Of
course,
when
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
or
a
timeline
issue,
I
did
ask
inhs,
I
said
we
we
basically
we
make
the
inhs
responsible
for
the
legal
fees
in
a
tax
credit
project,
because
it's
frequently
as
a
complex,
syndicated
real
estate
deal,
have
a
lot
of
documents
and
run
between
six
and
ten
thousand
dollars
of
legal
expenses.
A
So
I
did
reach
out
to
nhsn
and
said:
hey.
Did
you
know
that
dick
russwick's
retiring
he's
been
doing
it
usually
with
you?
A
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
of
a
attorney
and
that
we
are
working
with
now
that
you
would
have
a
preference
to
work
with
because
essentially
they're
paying
the
bill,
and
they
came
back
and
said
that,
given
that
dick
is
retiring,
they
would
like
to
work
with
somebody
locally
who
will
build
a
skill
set
for
doing
tax
credit
projects
and
they
were
open
to
suggestions
but
preferred
working
with
sharon's
limoulits
if
they
had
their
choice?
A
So
if
we
were
to
follow
that
model,
I
would
recommend
that
we
increase
her
contract
amount
from
six
thousand
to
ten
thousand
dollars
to
anticipate
the
increased
workload
associated
with
that
and
given
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
heather
cornell.
Yet
at
levine
we
don't
really,
you
know,
don't
have
a
deep
working
relationship
or
knowledge
of
her
skill
set,
although
she
would
have
dick
reswick
mentoring
her
for
several
months
to
figure
out
how
to
you
know
to
transfer
that
that
knowledge
he
has.
So
that's
the
alternative
approach.
A
A
So,
given
that
I'm
I'm
recommending
that
we
renew
sharon's
contract
and
increase
it
from
six
thousand
to
ten
thousand,
so
that
there's
enough
funding
available
to
complete
a
closing
on
a
tax
credit
project
for
this
being
the
immaculate
conception
project.
C
And
now
it's
just
just
a
quick
question
before
asking
committee
members:
you
anticipate
that
the
inc
the
amount
that
we're
increasing
by
to
be
refunded
to
the
agency.
A
Well,
I
might
I
actually
suggest
that
we
reduce
the
the
levine
number
by
down
from
ten
thousand
six
thousand,
so
it'd
be
an
overall
equal
amount.
I'm
sorry!
I
should
have
made
that
clear.
A
The
resolution
is
written,
it
says
6
000,
but
since
that
time
I've
heard
from
my
nhs
that
they
prefer
sharon
as
their
attorney
ira
attorney
to
work
with
on
their
deal.
C
Thanks
for
that,
for
for
that
overview
and
the
relationship
between
the
two
resolutions,
why
don't
we
start
with
just
moving
this?
The
sharon's
resolution
for
discussion?
Would
anyone
move
this.
E
The
this
is
sharon's
is
being
amended
to
read.
Six
thousand
is
that
I
was
three
ten
thousand.
Is
that
correct.
A
A
B
E
E
It
would
be
an
awfully
good
training
ground
for
additional
attorneys
to
be
working
in
the
same
practice
with
someone
who's
been
working
for
us.
So.
C
C
Thanks
kathy
and-
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
amend
this-
amend
the
first
resolve
to
read
ten
thousand
rather
than
six
thousand.
Is
that
right,
nels,
correct.
C
Thank
you
david
and
is
there
a
second
sure
thanks
kathy
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
if
we're
all
ready
to
vote
all
those
in
favor,
aye.
D
E
F
E
In
this
case,
when
I
want
to
look,
there
must
be
another
way
I'll
call.
My
major
media
consultant
here
right
now,
but
there
must
be
another
way
to
put
my
packet
up
on
the
screen,
which
I
guess
I'll
figure
out
how
to
do,
because
when
I
have
questions
about
a
person
or
a
thing,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
say
flip
to
the
resume
for
the
new
person.
So
it
feels
like
an
authoritarian
screen
mechanism,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
it's
just
because
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
use
it.
E
So
allow
me
to
consult
with
the
as
I'd
stand
by
consultant.
F
E
A
C
Which
you
know
I'm
I'm
trying
to
do.
I
have
I
have
the
packet
open
separately
and
I've
minimized
the
zoom
meeting,
but
then,
when
I
made
that
comment
earlier,
that
I
want
to
be
sure
that
I'm
seeing
all
of
you.
That
was
because
I
had
the
packet
open
and
I
needed
it
big
enough
for
someone
to
read
it.
But
I
was
not
seeing
all
of
your
faces
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
knew
that
you're
all
voting-
and
I
know
there
are
some
suave
ways
of
dealing
with
all
of
that.
But.
A
B
C
Yeah,
okay,.
C
So
then,
moving
on
to
the
second
resolution,
I'm
sorry,
the
third
on
this
topic
right
nils.
A
A
Yeah,
so
this
app,
this
resolution
is
written
to
continue
services
from
levine
golden
and
thompson
for
dick
reswick's
work
at
ten
thousand
dollars.
This
this
same
amount
that
was
earmarked
last
year
for
services,
which
we
didn't
get
close
to
utilizing
and
again.
This
was
with
the
thought
that
dick
would
work
on
closing
the
immaculate
conception,
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
project,
as
we
just
discussed.
A
You
know
we're
looking
at
sharing
to
do
that
work,
and
so
accordingly,
I
would
recommend
that
this
resolution,
if
approved,
be
amended
to
reduce
the
funding
amount
contract
amount
from
ten
thousand
down
to
six
thousand.
I
think
it
would
be
an
interesting
opportunity
to
try
out
heather
cornell
and
see
what
kind
of
you
know
legal
services
she
can
provide
for
us
and
and
try
her
out
for
a
year
as
an
example
to
see
what
kind
of
work
there
is.
A
We
do
run
into
situations
where
we
have
conflicts
of
interest
in
a
small
community
and
the
fact
that
she's
based
in
vestal
could
have
some
advantages.
It
could
have
some
disadvantages
she's,
the
head
of
their
real
estate
division.
So
she's
got
some
deep,
real
estate
experience,
which
we
do
quite
a
bit
of,
so
there
are
some
advantages
to
checking
it
out,
but
he's
unknown
and
on
tribe.
Frankly,
in
terms
of
my
yeah,
I
don't
have
any
knowledge
working
there.
C
Right,
oh
he's
retiring
in
may,
but
he's
available
only
for
two
months.
A
Well,
the
contra,
the
for
the
new
contract
that
begins
on
march,
one
right,
yeah
of
course,
march
in.
A
None
that
I'm
aware
of,
I
did
reach
out
to
dick
and
asked
if
there
was
more
additional
information
that
he
or
heather
could
provide
yesterday,
they
said
they
were
trying
to
pull
together
some
more
information
that
had
been
several
years
since
she
had
updated
her
resume,
apparently
because
she
has
not
had
the
need
to
do
that,
so
she
was
trying
to
pull
that
together.
I
think
we'll
have
more
information
for
the
ira
meeting,
but
I
don't
have
it
this
morning.
E
I'm
really
fond
of
people
knowing
the
area
that
they're
working
in
particular
when
you're
talking
about
properties,
locations,
boundaries,
effects
real
estate
and
when
you
want
to
say
well,
it's
js
and
such
and
such
just
because
someone
has
an
excellent
and
impeccable
record
and
great
academic
credentials
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they're
bringing
you
the
local
familiarity,
that
is
of
additional
assistance,
and
so
I'm
quite
concerned
about
this
out
of
ariel.
E
My
experience
is
dealing
with
local
law
firms
or
local
lawyers.
Who've
been
brought
up
by
other
firms
is
that
you
know
if
you're
buying
up
a
local
lawyer,
they
come
with
all
their
local
familiarity.
But
if
it's
a
lawyer,
who's
come
in
from
outside.
I
think
it's
a
very
different
expertise,
and
so
I'm
hesitant
about
this.
I
understand
that
you
want
to
try
her
and
my
question
would
be
yes,
how
you're
going
to
look
work
with
that
contractually.
E
If
are
you
still
doing
a
contract
with
russwick
or
then
transitioning?
To
I
mean
it
seems
like
you
should
be
doing
an
independent,
separate
resolution
contract
for
her
to
try
her
out
so
you're,
not
we're
not
bound
in
some
way,
but
I
I
speak
strongly
to
the
importance
of
of
local
local
familiarity
with
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
what
you're
trying
to
do.
It's
not
just
yeah
like
I
can
look
at
a
map
and
figure
it
out,
there's
a
whole
lot
more
to
understanding,
what's
going
on
when
you
put
together
property
and
real
estate
transactions.
E
So
I'm
pretty
concerned
about
this,
and
just
because
someone
has
the
great
ivy
league
credentials
or
whatever
wasn't
she
harvard
law
or
something
it
doesn't
work
that
well
for
ted
cruz.
E
So
I'm
I
you
know
just
looking
at
where
you
went
to
school
doesn't
tell
me
whether
you're
a
good
fit
for
the
goals
and
interests
of
the
urban
renewal
agency
and
particularly
the
urban
renewal
agency
in
ithaca.
So
if
you
want
to
try
her,
I
mean
just
because
her
name
is
cornell
doesn't
necessarily
give
her
a
leg
up.
I
I
would
like
to
have
it
be
very
dependent
on
the
individual
tasks
rather
than
a
broader
blanket
contract,
so
yeah.
C
C
I'll
just
respond
to
that,
I
I
mean
I
would
prefer
someone
who
is
local
also,
but
I
wouldn't
exclude
someone
who
wasn't
I
think
of,
and
this
is
a
one-year
extension
nils
correct.
You
know
I
I
think,
with
a
one-year
extension.
C
I
trust
dick
russerick's
judgment
and
if
he
thinks
she's
up
to
it,
he
has
a
great
understanding
of
our
local.
You
know
landscape
for
one
year,
I'd
be
willing
to
to
try
her
out.
I
think
we've
had
great
experiences
with
people
who
don't
live
in
the
area
like
harry
sickerman
and
others.
I
know
they're
not
dealing
with
real
estate,
but
who
understand
a
lot
of
the
issues
and
come
to
understand
them.
E
C
E
I
understand
there's
still,
an
independent
slaughtering
company
are
still
independent
and
not
bought
out,
so
the
difference
between
purely
local,
firm
versus
larger,
firm
and
then
bringing
in
the
outside
people
to
work.
I
I
wonder
from
the
inside
perspective
of
someone
who
lives
with
a
lawyer,
has
any
discern
what
the
feelings
are
in
the
legal
community
about
this.
B
I
who
I
live
with
aside
my
own
opinion
is
I
I
I
agree
with
susan
and
the
fact
that
if
dicks
retire
and
he's
gonna
give
you
the
name
of
somebody
in
his
firm,
that's
that's
how
that
is
played.
I
personally
would
like
to
see
since
it's
irrefunding
for
city
rift.
I
would
like
to
see
the
service
stay
to
a
lawyer
who
is
local
and-
and
I
say
that
in
the
fact
that,
though
you
want
somebody
who's
who's
good
and
knows
how
to
author
not
to
be
offensive.
B
This
is
a
brain
surgery.
There
are
lawyers
in
ithaca
who
can
do
this
and
you
know
I
don't
care
if
you
just
want
to
do
a
one-year
extension,
but
I
think
it
yeah.
I
would
prefer
that
the
money
stayed
local,
but
levine
golden
thompson
is
you
know
they
have
an
office
here?
B
I
don't
know
if
I
know
I'm
going
back
and
forth.
I
don't
know
that
if
you're
saying
well,
you
know
their
local
office,
so
we
should
go
with
them
that
the
fact
that
she
doesn't
physically
live
for
herself
you
know,
is
that
important.
But
I
I
know
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
I
don't
know
anything
about
her,
but
I
know
there
are
probably
a
number
of
lawyers
in
ithaca
who
are
struggling
and
would
like
to
have
a
contract.
So
did
that
help
at
all?
F
B
F
C
And
I
I
I
would
I'd
just
say
that
I
would
I
would
prefer
someone
who
lived
here
and
I
agree
who
lived
in
at
least
in
the
county.
In
effect,
this
is
10
months
really
not
one
year
with
heather,
because
dick
will
be
here
for
two
of
the
of
the
12
months
right
on
this
contract.
C
Still,
if
we
did
want
to
to
have
someone
who
was
local
for
this
for
the
10
months
rather
than
heather,
what
would
that
process
look
like
now
is
in
order
for
us
to
do
that?
We
do.
We
need
to
figure
that
all
out
before
the
end
of
february,
well,.
A
A
Through
the
end
of
february,
we
assign
individual
work
assignments
for
for
legal
services,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
discretion
on
how
much
work
to
send
to
each
one
and
what
type
of
projects,
so
I
would
not
expect
there
would
be
a
heavy
workload
for
levine
golden
and
thompson
through
this
contract.
If
they're
not
working
on
the
home
tax
credit
closing
project
it'll
probably
be,
I
would
estimate,
probably
between
one
and
two
thousand
dollars
of
legal
services
reviewing
contracts,
and
you
know
that
in
that
respect.
A
So,
but
you
know
there
are
times
when
there
are
conflicts
and
workload
issues
and
it's
nice
to
have
a
third
person.
You
know
a
third
attorney
in
our
stable.
It
frankly
is
it's
kind
of
I'm
not
sure
it's
worth
the
trouble
of
doing
an
rfp
process
for
one
attorney
for
six
thousand
dollars
up
to
six
thousand
dollars
of
work.
It
makes
more
sense
to
make
the
push
next
year,
but
you
know
we
can
do
that
if
you
prefer.
D
I'll
just
say
that
david,
you
know.
Well,
I
don't
disagree
with
what's
been
said
so
far,
sometimes
an
outside
perspective
and
trying
something
new
over
a
short
period
of
time
is
a
nice
way
to
pilot
what
might
be
a
different
perspective.
I
mean
I
hear
what
you
all
are
saying
about
local
lawyers
and
I
don't
have
any
reason
to
oppose
it.
I
just
think
you
know
this
seems
like
a
natural
opportunity,
easy
win,
just
to
kind
of
see
how
it
goes
and
to
what
extent
it
brings
a
fresh
perspective.
E
D
E
Or
in
ithaca,
and
when
you
then
bring
in
this
other
person
even
for
a
couple
of
tasks,
I
would
you're
you
are
giving
them
a
leg
up
in
the
future
search.
I
do
think
it's
worth
doing
a
search,
a
look
around
for
for
new
talent
and
and
a
commitment
to
a
local
economy
and
our
local
workers
and
our
local
attorneys,
not
all
of
whom
are
swimming
in
wealth,
and
these
are
tough
times
and
we've
actually
known
that
dick
russwick
was
phasing
out
for
a
while.
E
That's
why
I
brought
this
up
with
regard
to
mariette?
How
long
will
she
be
in
practice?
What
what
is
the
process?
We
should
be
using
going
forward
to
cultivate
the
new
talent
and
instead
of
doing
putting
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
we
have
to
do
an
rfp,
don't
we
have
the
discretion
to
spend
up
to
a
certain
dollar
amount
for
services
without
having
to
do
an
rfp?
E
In
other
words,
if
you
wanted,
if
you
had
a
list
of
four
or
five
different
attorneys,
you
wanted
to
try
out.
I
understand
that's
more
work
for
staff,
but
it
is
what
we
do.
So.
The
question
is,
can
can
we
try
new
people
and,
as
david
says,
fresh
perspectives,
be
they
tompkins,
county
or
outside
there
may
be
people
living
outside,
but
with
definite
ithaca
familiarity?
A
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
wishy-washy,
yes
to
no
answer
here,
because
it's
the
when
we
utilize
hud
funding
to
pay
for
the
attorneys,
cdbg
or
home
funding.
Then
we
are
bound
by
the
competitive
selection
process
that
they
establish,
which
is
that
you
know
that
rfp
approach,
if
we're.
A
As
far
as
I
know,
I
don't
remember,
there
was
a
threshold
number
on
that
it
was
just
you
know:
professional
services,
there
probably
is
a
practical
threshold
at
some
level,
but
I
don't
think
I
know
what
that
is.
I
I'm
trying
to
remember.
We
also
have
our
own
adopted
procurement
policy,
which
does
give
a
lot
of
flexibility
for
selection
of
professional
services.
A
So
I
think
when
we
get
beyond
the
hud
that
you
know
using
as
a
source
of
payment
head
funds,
then
we
do
have
much
greater
discretion
and
we
as
a
for
professional
services.
So
we
could,
you
know
if
we
earmarked
earmarked
the
work
they
did
was
not
utilize.
It
was
not
on
the
cdb
or
home
activities.
We
have
a
lot
of
discretion
other,
but
I
think
we
want
to.
We
don't
want
to.
A
C
Process,
I'm
not
willing
to
risk
that
for
six
thousand
dollars
or
one
thousand
or
two
thousand.
So
if
we
had
to
go
through
the-
and
I
don't
know
how
other
committee
members
feel,
but
I
don't
think
it's
worth
it,
can
we
ask
dick
to
present
another
that
we
will
contract
with
this
firm,
but
we
want
someone
who
lives
here.
A
F
C
D
E
Looking
at
the
resolution
isn't
the
resolution
of
authorizing
as
it's
currently
written.
It's
authorizing
ten
thousand
dollars
for
legal
services.
E
So
some
portion
of
this
is
for
russwick
and
then
should
you
be
then
contract
because
you're
doing
a
contract
with
the
firm.
C
E
E
A
For
the
last
several
years,
we've
been
contracting
with
levine
golden
and
thompson
officially,
but
you're
marking
the
work
for
dick
russwick.
So
we
don't
have
we
used
to
have
a
contract
with
dick,
just
dick
as
a
sole
sole
practitioner,
but
for
the
last
several
years
it's
been
with
the
firm
and
then
we
have
assigned
work
to
deck,
so
we
can
still
control
who
we
assign
the
work
to
under
that
contract.
I
think
we
still
have
authority
to
do
that.
A
So
we
could
you
know
if
you
wanted
to
set
some
sort
of
a
framework,
maybe
even
in
a
whereas
you
know
we
could
use
that
as
guidance
to
say.
You
know
that
you
were,
you
know
most
comfortable
with
with
work
by
somebody
other
than
dick
ruskwick
not
to
exceed
two
thousand
dollars
or
something
like
that.
E
Yeah,
well,
I
you
know
if
I
were
the
agency
member
voting
on
sending
this
forward
this
legal
contract,
I
would
want
something
whereas
or
resolved
somewhere
in
the
resolution,
which
reflects
the
substance
of
our
of
our
conversation,
which
says
yeah.
This
is
russ
week
and
we
then
upon
his
recommendation
using
in
his
retirement
using
the
services
of
not
to
exceed,
or
you
know,
on
a
on
a
trial
basis
is
probably
not
the
right
term,
but
I
I
think
there
needs
to
be
either
aware.
E
As
a
result,
I
don't
care
which
I
don't
not
interested
in
trying
to
have
us
craft
it
today,
and
maybe
nobody
else
thinks
it
should
be
there.
But
if,
as
an
agency
member,
I
would
want
to
know
what
we're
talking
about
now,
which
is
important
how
to
how
do
you
do
new
new
staff,
recruitment
staff
consultant
recruitment?
So,
okay,.
F
E
C
E
You
know
get
your
straightforward
stuff
done
and
see
if
anybody
else
thinks
it
should
have
additional
language
in
the
contract.
C
I
mean
my
my
my
feeling
is
that
well,
let's
move
this
as
it
is
or
can
can
I
can
we
move
this
amending
it
before
we've
actually
moved
it
as
it
is
now,
as
we
can.
A
C
C
I
will
I'll
second,
so
then,
the
question
is
whether
or
not
that
you
know
so
you
you're
suggesting
additional
language
that
captures
the
point
that
you
and
to
some
extent
cathy,
was
also
making
about
a
preference
for
someone
who
is
local.
I
mean,
basically,
you
were
trying
you
were.
You
were
suggesting
that
we
cap
what
heather
what
cornell
would
receive
in
this,
because
that
capping
of
what
she
would
receive
reflects
uneasiness
with
someone
who
is
not
local.
E
Well,
you're
saying
assume
his
assignments
as
as
requested
by
the
urban
renewal
agency,
as
you
know,
in
other
words,
as
opposed
to
dicks.
I
didn't
quite
finish
this
here.
You
take
this
I'm
trying
to
give
nells
of
the
age,
the
agency,
the
authority
to
determine
what
she's
doing
you
don't
even
need
to
put
dollar
amount,
but
you
know,
as
as
requested
by
the
urban
renewal
agency,
something
so
what.
C
C
You
know
engineer
that
or
bake
that
into
these
proposals
on
the
back
end,
because
we
we
didn't
make
that
clear
in
the
rfp.
We
never
we've
never
done
that
in
the
rfp.
So
I
feel
like
we're
working
under
a
construct
that
the
rfp
opened
and
now
saying.
Well,
actually
we
want
to
restrict
that
further.
C
So
you
know
to
me
the
time
to
address
this
would
be
with
the
next
rfp,
which
is
in
a
year,
and
let's
have
that
conversation
and
have
it
at
the
agency
and
and
and
tackle
it
from
there
to
me
10-month
period
for
some
amount,
that's
going
to
be
even
less
less
than
six
thousand
dollars
under
a
construct
that
we
blessed
when
we,
when
we
agreed
to
the
rfp
that
we
passed
doesn't
seem
unreasonable.
C
B
C
So
so
that
you
know
we
could
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
agency
meeting
now
formally
put
it
down,
and
any
member
of
this
committee
is
welcome
to
be
at
that
agency
meeting
too
to
to
you
know,
discussion
about
the
next
rfp
and
and
and
and
what
that
language
should
read
based
lives.
But
I
think
you
know
the
earlier.
C
But
at
the
next
agency
meeting
I
can
convey
this
conversation
and
say
that
we're
going
to
propose
something
for
the
next
rfp
and
just
get
input
from
the
agency
to
bring
back
to
this
committee.
C
Does
that
make
sense,
I
that's
fine,
I
would
I
would
my
suggestion
would
be
voting
on
on
this
as
currently
amended
and
having
really
addressing
this
at
the
rfp
level
for
the
next
time
around
the
conversation
we're
having.
C
So
ready
to
vote
okay,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
the
resolution
that
is
currently
amended.
C
E
C
Okay,
one
abstention,
so
that
passes
three
with
three
in
favor
of
one
abstention,
and
we
will
have
that
agenda
topic
and
make
we'll
make
sure
now
is
that
all
the
committee
members
get
the
timing
and
date
of
that
next
r
ura
meeting,
which
I
know
is
already
scheduled
so
that
you
can
be
there
for
that
conversation
if
you'd
like
to.
But
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point.
C
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up
sue
and
but
I
do
think
it's
at
the
rfp
level
that
we
want
to
get
that
baked
in.
A
C
Okay.
The
next
me
do
my
gymnastics
here
on
my
one
laptop
screen
great
then
moving
forward.
We
have
after
those
resolutions.
I
think
it
was
strategic.
Well,
let's
see.
C
F
C
Another
discussion
first
nails
is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
point
out
about
this.
A
We
create
about
six
thousand
dollars
of
services
last
year,
primarily
for
almost
exclusively
for
underwriting
loaning
out
conducting
loan
analysis
for
green
star
and
others.
We've
been
very
happy
with
the
services
provided
in
that
in
that
realm,
and
it's
it's
a
specialty,
that's
hard
to
find
somebody
who
can
can
do
an
underwriting
from
a
community
development
perspective.
So
I
think
they've
really
been
a
good
fit
for
our
program.
C
E
A
She's
talked
about
coming
to
town.
I've
invited
her
next
time,
she's
traveling
in
the
central
part
of
the
state
to
stop
in
so
we'll
try
to
get
her
in
here.
A
Right
and
as
it
relates
to
aging
out
in
transitions,
harry
sickerman,
did
you
know
kind
of
develop
a
transition
plan
to
he's
brought
chuck
bell
in
as
a
kind
of
a
co-uh
worker
on
the
issues
that
harry
works
on
and
they've
developed
a
pretty
strong
stable
of
staff,
including
elizabeth
krauss.
They
have
an
on
a
staff
attorney
for
for
legal
questions
that
come
up
relating
to
loan
issues
and
economic
development,
so
they've
been
a
good
resource
and
they
have
a
plan
for
continuing,
although
I
don't
see
harry
stickerman
ever
stopping.
So
I.
C
C
Right
good
point:
any
other
comments
from
other
committee
members
kathy
david.
B
C
And
now
I
think,
then
we're
done
with
our
action
items
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
correct
great
and
we
have
our
anti-displacement
learning
network
mayors
for
guaranteed
income,
so
two
separate
but
very
related
initiatives.
Nelson
wanted
to
give
us
a
report.
A
Right,
I
don't
think
there's
any
material
in
your
packet
on
this.
Just
want
to
make
you
aware
of
this.
This
funding
resource
edit
that
appears
he'll,
be
awarded
this
to
the
city
and
or
local
groups.
Working
on
these
issues.
So
again,
the
anti-displacement
learning
network
was
develo
is
is
a
grant
opportunity
through
the
enterprise
where
they
received
an
allocation
from
the
new
york
state
attorney
general
to
focus
on
anti-displacement
issues.
Nisa
from
the
ira
office
and
lady
barger
have
taken
the
lead
on
developing
that
program.
A
So
really
we,
the
human
services
coalition,
has
taken
the
administrative
lead
on
that
program.
We
are
expecting
an
award
of
a
formal
award.
I
think
we've
got
a
pre-award
notice
of
verbal,
but
we're
expecting
about
840
000
of
award
funds
for
that
program.
That
was
discussed
at
the
prior
meeting
of
the
governance
committee
meeting,
so
that
has
moved
forward
with
the
addition,
with
the
exciting
new
addition
of
perhaps
more
resources
to
support
that
program
and
that's
the
mayor's
for
guaranteed
income.
A
They
have
essentially
have
indicated
that
there
will
be
500
000
awarded
to
the
city
of
ithaca
to
pilot
a
guaranteed
income
initiative,
and
the
proposal
is
to
integrate
that
into
the
anti-displacement
learning
network
program,
which
would
be
utilized
to
provide
at
least
initially.
The
thought
is
300
a
month
for
18
months
for
persons
who
are
are
in
eviction.
Court
is
the
concept,
is
the
target
market
or
those
who
are
very
much
at
risk
of
being
evicted
or
losing
stable
housing?
So
I
just
want
to
make
you
aware
that
these
resources
are
coming
in.
A
It
does
kind
of
play
into
some
of
our
strategic
planning,
because
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
some
some
resources,
some
revenue
to
support
anissa
in
in
these
programs.
A
We
haven't
worked
out
the
details
of
either
of
them
exactly
yet
in
terms
of
the
financing,
but
human
services
coalition
will
be
the
lead
on
the
funding
through
enterprise,
and
it's
not
clear
whether
the
city
or
human
services
coalition
will
be
the
direct
grantee
of
the
mayors
for
guaranteed
income
program.
A
A
The
other
interesting
thing
about
the
the
mayor's
program
is
that
they
have
a
very
robust
analysis
and
evaluation
program
that
goes
along
with
it,
because
they're
really
what
they're
looking
for
is
trialing
these
programs
in
a
variety
of
different
communities,
with
different
program,
setups,
to
see
what
the
outcomes
are
of
of
a
guaranteed
income
with
no
strings
attached
for
for
a
period
of
at
least
12
months.
E
A
question,
and
maybe
kathy,
is
the
person
to
answer
it
at
the
last.
When
we
last
discussed
this,
I
was
curious
wanting
to
know
what
was
being
done
before
to
be
of
assistance
before
people
found
themselves
in
an
eviction
situation.
E
E
B
So
there
is,
let
me
do
a
couple
of
one
thing.
I
just
want
to
correct
nothing
else.
The
grant
is
not
up
to
a
million
the
enterprise
grant.
They
gave
us
the
other
two
hundred
thousand
they're.
They
originally
had
decided
that
they
were
going
to
withhold,
hold
back
200
000
because
they
wanted
to
see
some
policy
change.
B
They
still
want
to
see
some
policy
change,
but
they're
not
holding
back
the
money
for
it.
That's.
B
Something
that
would
be
permanent
within
the
city
of
ithaca.
To
answer
your
question:
it's
kind
of
we're
still
working
now
so
that
where
we
were
going
to
grab,
people
was
in
a
and
people
who
had
an
eviction
notice,
and
then
we
were
going
to
immediately
hook
them
up
with
services
and
get
them
into
the
programs
that
you're
talking
about
what
you're
talking
about
is
getting
in
before
that
and
our
problem.
B
Now
is
it's
hard
to
find
people
before
that
because
they're
not
they're,
nowhere
so
we're
now
there
are
two
things
that
happen
because
of
the
eviction
moratorium.
We
are
now
all
the
way
to
may
before.
We
can
even
find
people
in
eviction
court
and
the
other
thing
that
enterprise
did.
It
was
originally
an
18-month
grant.
Now
it's
a
15-month
grant,
so
we
can't
really
afford
to
wait
till
may
to
start
providing
subsidies
to
people,
so
we
are
actually
looking
for.
E
That
happens
is
that
people
very
much
want
a
certain
apartment.
They
go.
Oh,
I
want
this
apartment.
Are
you
sure
you
you?
I
don't
think
your
income
can
support
this
apartment.
There
needs
to
be
some
way
to
assist
and
support
people
in
finding
and
finding
the
affordable
option
or
walking
away
from
the
overpriced
option
that
is
going
to
absolutely
destroy
them.
There's
a
kind
of
a
wish
to
put
blinders
on
and
go
no.
No.
I
I
think
I
can
make
it
look.
Look
at
this.
You
can't
so
it's
up
front.
E
It's
before
you
sign
up
lease
before
you
move
to
the
next
place,
get
some
realistic
like
with
nhs.
You
got
the
counseling
for
home
buyers.
We
need
yeah
for
renters.
What
do
you
need?
Here's?
Yours,
here's!
Your
spreadsheet!
Here's,
your
don't!
Do
it
don't
just
say
yeah!
I
think
my
unemployment
will
carry
this
for.
B
I
mean
a
couple
other
two
things.
I
have
to
say
that
to
some
extent,
landlords
have
an
obligation
to
look
to
see
if
people
have
the
support
the
rent,
but
you
know
all
my
years
of
working.
I
I
have
seen
this
repeatedly
and
it
does
kind
of
make
me
sound
that
people
have
this
vulnerable
spirit
that
believes
that
tomorrow,
I'm
to
find
the
job
tomorrow,
I'm
going
to
get
the
you
know,
it's
really
hard
to
tell
people
that
they
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
afford
what
you
know.
What
makes
them
happy
so.
B
Right
here
right,
so
it's
you
know,
I
mean
we're
struggling
now.
Do
we
work
with
just
like
one
area
like
you
know
the
west
hill
or
do
we?
You
know
work
through
through
agencies
to
find
people,
because
I
mean
the
moratorium's
good,
but
it's
only
in
some
ways
putting
people
further
behind
in
what
their
obligations
are
going
to
be
right.
B
We
are
still
working
this
grant.
I've
never
seen
any
grant
like
this.
That
has
so
many
moving
parts
that
are
just
not
nailed
down
right
now,
but
hey.
We
can
do
this.
D
C
C
So
it
sounds
like
because
of
what
you
might
call
good
news
in
that
front,
although
there
could
be
unintended
consequences
with
people
actually
falling
further
behind
because
of
the
moratorium,
but
no
matter
what
this
the
grantees
are
being
forced
to
figure
out
to
do.
What
sue
is
suggesting?
B
Right,
which
is
great,
it
should
be
one
of
the
things
that
I
just
want
to
jump.
It
liddy
has
been
doing
a
survey.
She
gets
some
pretty
good
response
from
the
survey
and
she
from
most
renders
who
responded.
B
They
say
they
are
paying
partial
rent
and
she
said
the
average
amount
that
people
seem
to
be
behind
now
or
is
about
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars.
So
you
know
if
it
goes
all
the
way
to
december.
That's
clearly
gonna
just
yeah
open
up,
but
if
we
can
grab
them
now
the
grant
will
pay
arrears
and
then
the
the
money
will
go
directly
to
the
individual
to
help
them
pay,
for
you
know
future
rent.
B
So,
but
there
will
be
the
other
thing
is
there
is
going
to
be
like
a
housing
hotline
and
that
you
know
there
an
attendance
rights
book,
so
they
can
so
people
can
call
right
now.
There's
really
I
mean
even
law
new
york.
You
can't
really
get
them
involved
in
your
case,
unless
you're,
like
you,
have
a
three-day
eviction
notice.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
set
up
things.
That
tenants
can
call
a
lot
earlier
to
just
ask
questions
and
get
get
help,
but
it's
a
lot.
C
And
cathy,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
survey,
that
liddy
did
and
maybe
maybe
was
another
source,
I
thought
it
was
a
survey,
but
what
was
interesting
too
is
the
equity
issue
and
and
one
that
enterprise,
the
grantor,
really
wants
there
to
be
a
focus
on
that
and
this.
This
relates
back
to
the
conversation.
We
were
having
last
time
at
the
governance
committee
and
sue
you
you,
you
were,
you
were
wondering
about
this,
and
that
was
the
the
racial
composition
of
those
who
end
up
in
eviction
courts.
C
I
I
think,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it
was
like
six.
A
little
over
60
percent
of
the
folks
who
were
at
court
were
black
and
a
significant
portion
of
those
were
women.
B
Right
it's
about
54
of
the
people,
and
so
there
is
no
database.
No
one
collects
the
data
on
evictions,
so
one
of
the
team
went
through
and
looked
at
every
case
in
a
fiction
court
in
2018,
and
it
turned
out
that
about
54
were
people
of
color
and
a
huge
portion
of
those
were
women.
54.,
okay,
yep
and
the
grant.
B
The
60
percent
is
the
grant.
The
metrics
in
the
grant
are
that
60
of
the
people
who
will
be
served
through
the
various
programs
will
be
people
of
color.
B
60,
so
it
is
it,
it's
very
much
you
know
has
a
as
it
has
a
huge
equity
component.
E
As
is
this
data
collecting
taking
a
look
at
the
causes,
the
reasons
for
economic
distress,
in
other
words
covet,
is
one,
but
is
there
some
way
that
you
can
also
ascertain
what
other
problems
occurred
so
that
people
can
be
put
in
a
situation
where,
for
instance,
if
they
have
a
tremendous,
I
don't
know
exactly
how
this
would
would
work,
but
people
with
who
have
no
money
because
they
have
a
major
gambling
problem.
They
have
no
money
because
suddenly
they
have
a
major
drug
problem.
E
B
Each
and
this
is
the
way
it's
written
now-
it's
it's
set
up
to
serve
about
48
people,
47
48
people,
and
there
will
be
the
grant,
calls
them
enhanced
navigator.
Everybody
uses
the
word
navigator
now
in
sit
situated
in
two
one,
one
who
will
work
individually
with
these
people
to
find
out.
You
know
where
their
issues
are
and
connect
them
with
services.
The
one
thing
I
like
about
this
grant.
This
is
just
that,
my
it
it.
This
is
terrible
to
say
it
doesn't
have
to
be
coveted
related.
B
I
got
to
the
point
where
every
piece
of
help
was,
if
you
can
prove
you
know,
cove
would
release
like
what
it's
not
okay,
just
to
be
poor.
You
have
to
be
poor
because
of
covet
now,
so
you
know
it
certainly
exhaust
exacerbated
the
situation,
but
it's
it's
just
for
people
who
are
struggling
and
all
people
who
are
struggling
so
and.
B
B
It's
like
guaranteed
income,
yeah
no
strings
attached,
so
where
we
are
saying
you
know
that
people
who
receive
this
for
the
enterprise
grant
there
has
to
be
at
least
a
once
a
month
check
in
with
the
with
the
per
your
kind
of
case
case
worker
there
there
isn't
any.
Unless
you
do
this,
you
will
get
you
know
if
you
don't
take
care
of
your
gambling
problem
or
your
drug
bomb.
You're
you're
kicked
out
of
the
program
that
isn't
going
to
be
a
part
of
it.
F
E
But
sometimes
just
a
face
to
fa
a
discussion
where
people
have
to
say
to
themselves
and
if
not
even
out
loud
to
the
counselor
they're
talking
to
it,
you
get
to
list
gee.
How
do
you
think
what
what
happened
to
put
you
into
this
situation
and
it's
it's
a
sort
of
self-examination
process
for
the
people
meeting
with
a
counselor
consultant,
so
best
wishes.
C
On
that
note,
any
other
comments
for
kathy
or
nells
on
this.
Otherwise,
then,
thank
you
for
the
report,
exciting
news
that
we
have
new
resources
in
the
community
to
deal
with
this
to
deal
with.
You
know
housing.
I
think
that's
probably
the
source
of
a
lot
of
people's
of
of
what's
causing
you
know
in
this
community
anyway,
most
of
the
pain
for
those
who
are
on
the
margin.
C
C
It's
a
good
problem
to
have
yeah,
and
so
then
we
have
next,
unless
there's
anything
else
on
this.
Looking
at
our
iura
planning,
first
of
all,
celebrating
our
2020
accomplishments,
the
agencies
and
the
planning
departments,
those
that
are
related
interrelated
and
looking
at
our
2021
work
plan,
I
I
have
to
bounce
at
10
am
for
another
meeting,
so
we've
got.
I
can
be
part
of
this
for
at
least
20
minutes.
C
And
so
I
know
this
could
be
a
really
really
rich
discussion,
but
I
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
started
as
soon
as
we
could.
A
Eric
my
my
intent
with
this
was
to
maybe
start
a
discussion,
but
not
necessarily
having
to
get
to
an
outcome.
I
wanted
to
one
emphasize,
as
you
noted,
you
know,
the
interrelated
work
that
the
planning
division
and
the
ira
does,
and
I
think
you
know
what's
really
interesting
to
see-
is
that
kind
of
spreadsheet?
At
the
end
of
that
document
or
the
with
the
where
lisa
nicholas
develops,
you
know
tracks
the
number
of
housing
units
being
constructed
or
under
review
or
approved,
showing
the
you
know
the
low
income.
A
Rate
to
the
market
rate
housing
being
developed
in
the
community
on
a
historic
basis
and
going
forward-
and
you
know,
we've
done
a
pretty
good
job
at
the
community
level
of
of
you
know
in
spurring
affordable
housing
projects,
but
still,
if
you
look
at
it
over
the
last
15
years,
it's
only
between
you
know,
20
to
25
units
per
year
on
average,
which
is
not
a
huge
number,
but
at
least
it's
it's
we've
we're
seeing
definitely
a
tre
an
upward
trend
in
in
terms
of
units.
A
A
But
so
so
I
wanted
to
just
use
that
as
a
launching
point
to
discuss
the
2021
work
plan
and
identify
that
in
some
respects,
much
of
it
is
already
written
by
the
fact
that
we
continually
continue
projects.
So
I
mean
the
core
piece
of
the
work
plan
has
got
to
be
the
2021
action
plan,
development
of
the
hud
entitlement
program,
because
we're
still
making
decisions
and
implementing
programs
with
the
cares
act
funding.
That's
again
a
core
piece
of
our
work
plan
that
is
taking.
You
know
between
those
two
things.
A
A
Additionally,
in
the
first
quarter
of
this
year,
we're
very
busy
with
trying
to
implement
the
green
street
garage
redevelopment
project,
we're
hoping
to
close
at
the
end
of
you
know
february,
but
you
know
my
sense
is
that
could
easily
linger
an
extra
month,
and
this
is
in
part,
you
know
practically
the
most
the
most
intense
time
in
some
respects
for
the
for
that
project,
to
get
it
to
implementation
phase.
Now
that
there's
been,
you
know,
site
plan
approvals
and
and
progress
there.
A
The
the
new
initiatives
going
forward
are
clearly
to
include
the
what
we
just
discussed.
The
anti-disappointing
on
the
anti-displacement
work
and
anissa
will
be
involved
in
that
work
and,
as
you
see
later,
in
your
packet,
inlet
island
is
heating
up
as
interest
for
and
on
the
next
urban
renewal
project.
A
A
It
was
like
mid-2000
or
early
2017,
so
these
projects
will
easily
take
up
a
work
year
or
you
know
multiple
work
years
to
go
all
the
way
through
the
process
and-
and
so
I
think,
I
think,
between
the
hud
entanglement
program,
the
anti-displacement
work,
the
growing
interest
in
inlet
island
is
a
a
potential
next
urban
renewal
project
site
and
then
the
possibility
of
cherry
street
extension,
which
I
know
sue-
wants
to
talk
about
later
on.
A
The
agenda
here,
combined
with
continuing
act,
work
to
collaborate
with
the
continuous
care
on
the
homeless
homeless.
You
know
addressing
people
who
are
not
stably
housed.
A
Those
really,
you
know
would
would
create
a
95
of
the
work
plan.
I
think
so
really
there's
room
for
a
few
other
things,
but
there's
not
room
for
a
lot,
but
at
our
staff
level
you
know
at
our
current
staffing
level,
but
certainly
open
to
you
know,
including
other
initiatives
in
in
a
work
plan,
or
you
know
thing
you
know
in
some
reason
it
respects
this
is
part
of
the
strategic
planning
discussion
as
well.
Obviously,.
E
Nels,
I'm
trying
to
understand
this.
The
drawing
we've
got
various
drawings
for
the
island,
whose
drawings
are
these
yeah.
A
I
wanted
to
throw
those
in
just
to
give
you
kind
of
wet
your
appetite
for
the
issue.
One
of
the
drawings
is
from
steve
flash
and
his
development
group,
who
is
looking
at
a
potential
acquisition
and
development
of
ira
and
city-owned
properties
on
inlet
island.
The
second
one
is
from
morse
link
and
his
group
that
is
looking
at
it.
A
So
there's
two
different
groups
that
have
some
overlap
in
their
initiatives,
but
they're
very
early
conceptual
images
with
not
a
lot
of
feasibility
done
at
this
point,
so
I
just
they
really
should
shouldn't
be.
E
F
E
I
mean
it,
I
assume
those
are
somehow
crew
boats
going
up
and
down,
and
I'm
just
okay
yeah.
You
know
that
all
looks
a
little
bit
like
water
bugs,
but
I
okay
so
that
one's
oriented
it
actually
should.
This
should
be
consistent.
Anyhow,.
F
A
Right,
I
didn't
include
the
the
narratives
that
go
with
these
because
they're
really
at
the
economic
development
committee
level
and
still
need
more
work.
But
I
just
wanted
to
let
you.
A
Well,
there's
there's
there's
components
to
each
of
them
that
are
different.
The
first
one
is
primarily
a
focus
on
housing
with
some
affordable
housing
and
a
secondary
focus
on
maintaining
the
marina
function
on
the
on
the
barge
canal
side
so
that
they
had,
you
know
really
more
play
on
strengthening
the
marina
boating
services
function
with
housing.
Supporting
that
the
second
one,
which
is
a
little
bit
more
crisper
designed,
is
really
the
anchor
project
is
a
hotel
there.
A
They
have
recruited
avi
smith
of
the
argos,
inn
to
be
the
key
operator
for
that
hotel
and
then
they're,
looking
at
at
some
affordable,
100,
workforce
or
below
market,
but
not
deeply
below
market
housing
facing
the
flood
control
channel
and
a
in
a
role
for
some
kayak
and
boating
activities
as
well.
So
there's
a
real
snapshot,
but
I
mean
we're.
Not
that's
not
really
the
issue
here.
E
All
right,
but
this
packet
of
data,
these
are
different
options
as
available
online,
so
that,
like,
for
instance,
you
know
kathy's
in
the
neighborhood
looking
down
at.
If
one
you
want
to
look
it
up
and
see
what's
being
proposed,
what
are
the
various
proposals,
a
b
c
d,
and
who
are
the
participants?
Is
that
publicly
accessible
at
this
point?
Are
you
just
showing
us
pieces.
A
Yeah
we
can
give
you
we
can
provide
you
with
the
narratives
that
the
brief
narratives
that
went
along
with
these
I'll
be
happy
to
share
this
with
you,
but
we're
doing
a
for
the
ed
committees
and
the
ira
has
approved
a
formal
request
for
expressions
of
interest
and
requesting
conceptual
plans
to
keep
the
yes
the
option
open
to
others
beyond
the
two
that
have
come
forward.
You
know
without
any
solicitation,
so
there
will
be.
E
A
Well,
it
was
intended
to
be
ready
for
them
to.
You
know,
look
at
a
full
panoply
of
any
responses
at
their
february
march
meeting,
but
I
didn't
get
the
request
for
expressions
of
interest
out
because
I
haven't
had
time
with
the
green
street
garage
project.
So
nothing
is
imminent
in
the
next
month.
At
all,.
E
A
Has
been,
we
will
then
do
we
will
require
a
minimum
set
of
information
from
each
applicant
through
the
request
for
expressions
of
interest.
You
know
concept,
but
that's
that
that
information
is
not
available
yet.
E
C
Great
I'm
I'm
mindful
of
the
time
we
have
left,
I
know
sue.
We
can
we'll
we'll
pick
this
up
again.
The
the
overall
2021
plan.
C
I
want
to
make
sure
one
you
know
if,
first
of
all,
maybe
maybe
we
can
just
briefly
touch
on
the
financials
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
anything
that
the
governance
committee
should
be
worried
about
nells
and
then
go
to
sues.
What
sue
wanted
to
share
with
us
about
the
the
effect
of
the
homeless
encampments
on
the
on
the
on
those
properties
of
cherry
street?
The
issues
that
are
that
she
wanted
to
point
out
to
us.
I.
C
A
Yeah
as
regards
the
financials,
the
grand
summary,
the
loan
repayment
and
police
report,
repayment
report
or
payment
report,
we
don't
have
any
projects
that
are
in
danger
at
risk.
We
did
extend
the
timeline
for
completion
of
projects
due
to
covet,
so
there's
some
extended
timelines
at
work,
but
we
don't
have
any
projects
that
are
stalled
or
in
danger.
A
We
are
identifying
as
in
danger
at
this
point,
and
the
loans
are
current
for
everyone
again,
there's
been,
you
know,
with
the
exception
of
the
the
massage
school
which
we're
still
trying
to
collect
on
the
there
have
been
a
number
of
deferrals
in
the
loan
so
as
well,
and
we
did
learn
that
green
straw
is
going
to
be
requesting
another
year
to
meet
their
job
creation
requirements
because
they
rely
on
a
social
activity
component
for
their
business.
A
You
know
they
have
they
plan
for
a
robust
kind
of
you
know,
dining
and
you
know
coffee
kind
of
activity
and
that
they're
not
able
to
make
that
happen
under
covered
and
then
all
the
lease
payments
are
current.
Now,
even
though
there
was
one
listed
as
late
they're
all
current
as
we
speak,
so
I
don't
think
there
are
any
issues
to
bring
your
attention
on
those
reports.
A
C
Good,
that's
great
sue,
your
any
questions
on
the
financials
or
comments
from
the
committee
members,
then
so
why
don't
you
share
with
us
what
you,
what
you
wanted
to
make
sure
you.
E
Thank
you
erica
briefly.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
committee
was
aware
and
that
you
would
take
this
issue
to
the
agency
it.
It
is
very
difficult
on
cherry
street
with
the
activities
related
to
residents
of
the
jungle.
As
you
know,
you
had
a
big
fire
down
there
and
then
the
next
day
after
the
fire.
You
got
people
fighting
in
the
street
directly
across
from
the
driveway
at
247,
245
and
burning
pallets
in
the
on
the
pavement.
E
Of
course,
the
agency's
land
itself
is
really
pretty
pretty
messy.
Collecting
decaying
mattresses
and
usual
shopping
carts,
but
we
really
do.
I
think,
as
the
agency
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
keep
it
as
tidy
looking
as
possible,
I
mean
the
rule
with
graffiti
is
get
it
off
quickly
before
it
spawns
more
and
similarly
with
the
the
trash
problems
there.
But
it's
the
greater
problem
is
really
the
concerns
about
violence
and
distress.
E
They
were
having
a
as
my
son
said,
because
he
was
there
trying
to
pull
in
the
driveway
in
the
evening
and
it
was
blocked.
Keplet
montagues
were
fighting,
you've,
broken
my
heart
and
so
on
and
so
on,
and
then
there
was
a
cab
there
taking
juliette
away,
which
was
parked
across
the
driveway.
So
we
couldn't.
You
know
that
my
husband's
son
couldn't
pull
and
they
had
to
get
the
cab
driver
who
begrudgingly
moved
and
it's
it's
the
living
situation
down.
E
There
seems
to
be
moving
into
a
more
angry
rather
than
a
cheerful
camper
phase,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
theft
and
services
that
go
in
there.
Salvation
army
and
sis
still
unparking
their
vehicles
wrong
side
of
the
no
parking
signs.
I
will
talk
to
them.
I
keep
talking
to
people
about
this,
but
for
the
agency.
E
I
think
you
really
need
to
make
sure
that
your
property,
your
undeveloped
property,
doesn't
allow
accumulation
of
stuff,
because
this
has
become
a
gathering
and
a
congregating
point
in
the
street
out
there
and
it's
very
difficult
to
pull
in
the
driveway.
I
worry
about
life
safety
issues
for
my
husband
who
works
there
alone
at
night,
he's
a
12
to
12
guy
and
that's
his
schedule,
and
it's
it's
pretty
scary.
E
You
know
we
just
fished
somebody
out
of
the
inlet
who
was
a
jungle
resident
with
outstanding
warrants,
the
police
that
was
in
the
paper.
The
police
were
pursuing
theft
issues
when
the
guy
decided
escape
was
by
jumping
into
31
degree.
Water
you've
got
the
street,
often
blocked
with
people
who
refuse
pretty
belligerent
people
who
refuse
to
move
as
their
bicycling
down
the
street
with
a
string
of
shopping
carts.
E
I
have
great
sympathy
for
poverty
and
deprivation,
but
it's
not
being
well
managed
and
your
property,
whatever
you
can
do
to
get
that
cleaned
up,
would
be
helpful.
The
issue
of
the
residents
themselves
and
their
behavior
is
probably
nothing
the
agency
can
deal
with.
A
General
framework
is
a
you
know,
a
harm
reduction
model
overall
and
they,
but
they
have
in
just
decided
that
they
are
going
to
post
notices
that
encampments
on
the
cherry
street
extension
area,
where
you
know
basically
the
the
so-called
jungle,
the
south,
the
former
southwest
park
and
the
cherry
street
property
is
divided
by
the
railroad
tracks
and
they
are
going
to
be
posting
signs,
prohibiting
encampments
on
the
cherry
street
side
of
those
railroad
tracks
and
encouraging
people
to
move
back
to
the
southwest
area
and
will
be.
A
The
sign
will
indicate
that
they
must
be
moved
by
april.
1St
or
the
city
will
assist
them
in
moving
their
encampments.
So
they
are
trying
to
encourage.
You
know
not
discourage
the
geographic
spread
of
encampments
when
there's
still
quite
a
bit
of
acreage
in
southwest
well.
E
It's
being
used
as
a
major
drop-off
point
for
people
who
wish
to
make
donations
of
what
are
seen
as
building
materials
and
so
on
which
end
up
being
you
know,
street
bonfires
and
so
forth,
and
we've
had
numerous
encounters
with
just
even
the
salvation
army.
E
I've
talked
to
the
major
once
I'll
talk
to
her
again
with
the
major
she's,
a
major
now
raging
husband,
yes
anyhow,
but
thank
you
for
the
update
on
the
city,
and
I
think
the
idea
of
being
able
to
have
a
smaller
area
gives
you
a
more
manageable
area
to
be
able
to
keep
keep
an
eye
on
it,
because
we
are
looking
at
really
violence
among
the
factions
within
the
residence
that
is
spilling
over
and
and
it's
frightening
at
night.
It's
not
great
during
the
daytime
either,
but
the
night
time
you
know.
So.
Thank
you.
E
E
A
I
can
touch
me,
I
think
the
city's
planning
to
do
something
after
april,
one
to
kind
of
you
know,
look
at
the
entire
site,
it.
It
seems
to
be
a
you
know,
you
chase
things
down
and
then
they
reappear,
so
I
think
it
might
be
more
productive
to
do
it
all
in
one
fell
swoop
in
the
spring,
but
I
agree.
I
think
the
ira
has
responsibility
to
maintain
that
property
in
a
clean,
safe
way.
E
A
A
C
Okay,
we
have.
A
Part
of
the
part
of
the
issue
is,
is
that
I
mean
degree
the
black
diamond
trail
bridge
over
the
fall
at
the.
A
Channel
is
planned
for
this
this
year,
so
there
will
be
more
trail
activity
going
along
the
flight
control
channel
adjacent
to
the
ira.
Progress.
C
I
I
have
to
go
now.
I
apologize
our
next
meeting
is
april
16th,
2021
april
16th,
and,
and
so
now,
as
I
imagine,
you
might
still
be
available
if
sue
or
anyone
else
has
any
questions
about
anything.
You
wanted
to
bring
up
that
was
of
interest
from
the
city
or
the.
C
Okay,
happy
new
year,
everyone,
I
forgot
to
say
that
at
the
beginning
of
this,
as
inauspicious
as
the
start
may
have
seemed
I'm
being
presumptuous
here,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
but
it
also
feels
to
me
like
in
general,
something
not
so
great
is
dying
and
something
better
is
starting
to
come
out.
So
that's
the
way
I
feel
about
everything,
so
I'm
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
run
with
that
for
now.