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B
No,
I
have
one
slate
change
from
tracy,
which
is
noting
the
time
that
she
left
the
august
meeting.
I'll
include
that,
in
the
final
version.
B
A
Great,
so
everyone
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
minutes.
D
B
Okay,
let
me
I'll
I'll
text
him.
I
did
confirm
with
him
last
night
he
said
he'd
be
here,
probably
8,
30
or
8
45.
A
B
As
far
as
staff
report,
I
will
say
that
you
know
charles
has
been
working
amazingly
getting
all
of
our
cdbg
cv
contracts
ready
and
our
usual
action
plan,
yeah
contracts
and
materials
ready,
we've
both
been
on
hud
webinars
to
you,
know,
understand
more
about
how,
as
the
character
rolls
out
what
the
ongoing
expectations
are.
One
major
change
that
I
to
let
the
committee
know
about,
but
you
know
in
talking
with
the
staff
we
we
haven't,
landed
on
anything
to
do
with
this
information.
B
That
hud
has
now
issued
an
additional
waiver
that
emergency
rental
assistance
or
any
kind
of
emergency
assistance,
which
normally
per
regulation
is
only
available
for
three
consecutive
months,
can
now
be
available
for
six
consecutive
months.
So
we
haven't
been
seeing
a
huge
need,
as
you
know,
for
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program.
I've
reached
out
to
delia
for
more
for
an
update
which
she
will
have
ready
next
week.
She
thinks,
and
I
will
email
that
to
you,
but
again
we
still
have
I'd,
say
at
least
half
of
that
pot
of
money
available.
B
So
that's
the
major
hud
hud
related
cares
act
related
update
that
I
have.
We
can
go
back
to
my
staff
meeting
or
my
staff
report
after
after
nils
is
done,
but
I
think
nelson
is
going
to
include
probably
every
single
thing
that
you
might
have
wanted
to
know
about.
So
we
won't
have
much
more
to
talk
about
per
staff.
E
F
F
A
F
And
do
you
have
particular
you
know,
you
know,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
touch
base
on
the
issues
that
are
most
interesting.
Do
you
have
any
particular
focus,
or
you
just
wanna,
a
little
bit
of
the
history
of
the
city's
discussion
regarding
it
and
where
we've
ended
up
at
the
moment
with
the
city.
A
Of
it,
but
you
know
one
of
the:
how
inclusion
earth
zoning
impacts
housing
in
general,
particularly
affordable
housing,
which
is
something
that
you
know
this
committee
is
concerned
about
right.
F
Okay,
so
I
mean
the
inclusionary
zoning
at
its
basic
level.
Is
it
mandates
a
percentage
of
housing
in
a
new
project
to
be
dedicated
at
a
lower
than
market
rate?
Rent
and
oftentimes
establishes
the
maximum
rents
that
those
tenants
in
those
set-aside
units
can
earn.
So
essentially,
it's
trying
to
create
affordable
housing
with
an
internal
kind
of
subsidy
between
the
market
rate
units
in
a
project
the
affordable
units
in
the
project,
because
there's
affordable
housing
is
not
profitable
by
itself.
F
We've
never
had
a
developer
come
forward
and
say
they
wanted
to
build
affordable
housing
without
any
kind
of
subsidy.
So
it's
really
an
effort
to
try
to
integrate.
Those
you
know
include
affordable
housing
and
oftentimes.
The
secondary
goal
is
to
integrate
a
mix
of
incomes
in
a
neighborhood
or
in
a
a
individual
project.
F
The
city
has
gone
down
the
road
of
investigating
this
lynne.
Truing
did
a
lot
of
work
developing
both
a
voluntary
incentive-based,
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance,
as
well
as
a
mandatory
ordinance
for
consideration
by,
I
guess,
probably
senior
staff,
and-
and
you
know
we
bring
a
lot
of
these
discussions
to
the
mayor
and
the
chair
of
the
planning
economic
development
committee
and
the
goal
you
know
the
goal
was
the
mayor
asked
lynn
to
develop
something
to
address
those
issues,
because
we
were
seeing
a
lot
a
lot
of
higher
end.
F
You
know,
luxury
rental
housing
projects
being
developed
and
the
only
other
projects
being
developed
in
the
city
seemed
to
be
inhs
projects
which
were
low-income
housing,
tax
credit
projects.
So
the
hope
was
to
see
if
there
would
be
a
way
to
expand
the
number
of
affordable
units
and
mix
in
some
of
those
income
eligible
units
in
a
in
a
market
rate
unit.
F
So
the
first
effort
was
to
create
a
mandatory
ordinance
and
the
requirements
would
have
been
that
the
units
would
be
20
of
the
units
would
have
to
be
affordable
at
sixty
percent
area,
median
income,
which
is
the
standard
for
home
regulations
and
yeah,
so
and
and
most
of
four
and
most
tax
credit
projects
as
well.
The
idea
with
that
requirement
was
that
every
project
I
believe
it
was
over
10
units
would
have
to
meet
that
requirement
in
the
city
of
ithaca
everywhere
in
the
city.
F
The
incentives
being
discussed
at
that
point,
because
really
almost
every
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance,
especially
if
it's
mandatory,
includes
some
cost
offsets
to
the
developer,
to
make
it
easier
for
them
to
meet
that
standard
and
and
kind
of
you
know,
reduce
the
we'll
make
it
make
make
sure
it's
more
financially
feasible
for
the
project
to
go
forward,
and
in
that
case
there
was
talk
about
an
increased
density
on
the
property
so
for
every
affordable
housing
unit
you
needed
to
provide.
F
F
There
was
one
additional
floor
height
was
considered,
but
that
kind
of
matches
up
with
that
that
other
standard
in
some
respects
there
was
discussion
about
other
improv
waivers,
such
as
parking,
I
think,
was
included
as
well,
not
sure
if
it
was
100
of
the
parking
requirement,
but
that
would
be
another
waiver
allowed
for
those
kind.
Those
projects
that
met
that
requirement.
F
I
believe
there
was
a
in
lou
model
for
that
project.
For
that
approach,
in
which
a
developer
could
do
one
of
two
things
they
could
provide
housing
offsite
on
other
property
that
they
own,
because
we,
the
assessment,
the
evaluation
there
was
that
most
of
the
developers
in
the
city
have
multiple
properties
that
they
work
on
in
the
city
and
it
might
be
advantageous
to
them
to
be
able
to
provide
it
off-site
at
another
property
within
a
certain
distance.
I
believe
there
was
a
thousand
foot
separation.
F
You
know
within
a
thousand
feet
or
something
like
that,
and
then
there
was
some
talk,
but
I
don't
think
we
ever
finalize
about
whether
renovation
would
qualify.
If
somebody
somebody
a
developer,
could
buy
a
house
that
needed
to
be
upgraded
and
they
could
a
house
or
apartments
and
they
could
upgrade
it
was
discussed.
I
don't
think
we
ever
finalized
that
approach,
but
it
was
another
thought,
so
those
were
the
main
and
then
there
was
a
you
know,
also
a
financial
in
lieu
payment
that
was
discussed.
F
F
The
the
mandatory
pro
was
brought
forward
for
discussion
with
the
city,
leaders
and
decision
makers
and
policy
makers.
It
never
made
its
way
to
a
formal
committee
meeting.
I
don't
believe
I
think
it
was.
I
think
the
view
was
that
there
were
concerns
raised
about
how
it
that
mandatory
ordinance
would
impact
the
housing
market
in
in
a
number
of
ways.
One
was
the
recognition
that
the
city's
five
square
miles
and
were
surrounded
by
other
potential
housing
development
sites
in
lansing,
for
example.
F
That
would
not
have
those
standards
and
would
developers
you
know,
would
it
would
it
lead
to
sprawl
development?
Was
it
basically
was
basically
one
concern
because
it
would
be
more
expensive
to
build
in
the
city
compared
to
those
other
locations.
F
Secondly,
was
a
concern
that
when
you
have
a
requirement
for
pretty
deep,
affordable
units,
matched
up
with
a
new
construction
project,
you
tend
to
crowd
out
middle-income
renters.
So
there's
no
moderate
income.
I
mean
the
developer's
almost
forced
to
go
luxury
and
affordable
to
make
it
work,
because
the
moderate
income
renting
is
not
going
to
provide
enough
profit
for
each
unit
to
offset
the
20
affordability
requirement.
So
that
was
a
concern
and
you
know-
and
then
thirdly
was
just
a
basic
concern
at
in
terms
of
quantity,
of
the
supply
of
housing
in
the
city.
F
The
other
concern
that
was
raised
about
it
was
the
city:
didn't
really
have
a
lot
of
incentives
to
offer
many
zones
in
the
city
which
allow
multi-family
housing
already
don't
have
parking
requirements
so
that
wasn't
a
big
winner
for
most
of
those
areas,
the
height
requirements
and
the
poor
soils
tended
to
work
in
a
way
that
the
extra
story
of
height
didn't
often
lead
to
practical
expanded
number
of
units
in
many
cases
was
the
view.
We
don't
think
we
never
tested
out
for
certain.
F
I
guess,
and
there
was
a
view
that
the
planning
board
and
probably
a
neighborhood,
would
not
support
projects
that
were
higher
in
density.
You
know
you
can
say
you're
going
to
allow
those
to
have
higher
density,
but
they
have
to
get
through
the
site,
plan,
approval
process
and
the
secret
review
process,
and
in
fact
there
was
a
concern
that
it
was
kind
of
a
hollow
incentive
offered
for
those
things.
So
those
were
the
concerns
raised
at
the
time.
F
There
was
also
a
view
that
the
market
the
general
economy
was
was
trending
kind
of
there
was
the
view
that
the
economy
may
go
down.
I
think
this
was
soon
after
kind
of
near
the
middle
of
obama,
the
obama
administration
or
near
the
end,
and
there
was
uncertainty
about
where
the
market
was
going
to
go,
and
the
fear
was
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
adopt
a
mandatory
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
just
as
the
economy
was
starting
to
starting
to
move
into
a
depression
and
and
that
that
would
then
be.
F
You
know
it
would
be
blamed
for
the
depression
or
something
or
it
would
be
ineffective
and
viewed
as
ineffective.
So
all
those
factors,
wrapped
together
were
led
to
the
mayor,
asking
lin
to
create
an
incentive
based
voluntary
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance
to
see
how
that
would
work.
So,
instead
of
making
it
mandatory,
making
it
incentive-based
and
trying
to
explore
whether
there
were
stronger
incentives
to
offer
to
developers
than
the
ones
I
just
discussed,
of
course,
the
biggest
incentive
is
the
industrial
development
agency's
ctap
program.
F
It
was
at
that
point
relatively
narrowly
focused
geographically
in
the
you
know:
west
state
street
corridor,
inlet,
island
and
downtown,
and
so
there
were
some
ideas
about.
Would
it
make
sense
to
expand
that
eligible
area
for
ctap
ida
incentives,
tax,
abatements
sales,
tax
exemption
and
partial
mortgage
tax
exemption?
F
F
I
guess
one
was
an
expedited
and
more
certain
site
plan
approval
process,
in
which
some
of
the
discretion
of
the
planning
board
was
constrained
on
these
projects
and-
and
secondly,
was
the
fact
that
if
there
could
be
some
minor
deviation
from
the
standards
so
that
projects
could
avoid
going
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
which
is
a
you
know,
you
can't
go
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
until
you've
gone
through
the
seeker.
So
you've
expended
a
lot
of
money
already
in
your
process.
F
Before
you
can
even
ask
the
question:
can
I
have
a
three
foot
height,
variance
for
example,
and
and
also
it's
a
very
uncertain
outcome,
because
you're
asking
for
something
different
from
the
ordinance
and
so
you're
kind
of
at
the
mercy
of
the
board
and
the
neighborhood
in
a
strong
neighborhood
comes
out.
It's
been
viewed
historically
by
developers
that
it's
tough
to
get
approval.
If
you
have
five
or
six
year,
neighbors
all
arguing
that
it
shouldn't
be
approved
and
it's
going
to
change
the
character
and
quality
of
the
neighborhood.
F
So
they
were
looking
at
that
as
as
two
areas
that
they
thought
would
actually
induce
them
to
want
to
do
a
project
because
in
their
in
their
view
of
the
analysis,
those
things
cost
them
money.
It
costs
them
time.
It
costs
them
uncertainty,
it
costs
them
to
have
to
go
back
to
their
architects
to
redesign
projects.
F
They
thought
that
was
real
value.
So
when
we
discussed
that
with
I'm
not
sure,
if
we
ever
got
to
the
I
couldn't
the
planning
board
discussed
the
idea
they
rejected
it
out
of
hand,
they
didn't
want
anything
to
do
with
a
constraint
on
on
their
review
process,
and
so
that
didn't
go
very
far
in
in
terms
of
that
discussion.
F
You
know
it
would
have
to
be
a
negotiation
on
what
things
could
be
limited
and
what
things
they
had
discretion
on
and
it
did
seem
like
there
was
some
general
support
for
what
would
be
called
kind
of
a
a
way
in
which
a
developer
could
like
deviate
from
20
of
the
area
variants
you
know
requiring
permits.
So
if
they
needed
a
10-yard
setback,
they
could
provide
seven
and
a
half
foot
or
something
or
eight
foot.
There
did
seem
to
be
some
general
interest
that
that
might
be
workable,
but
again
it
impacts
the
neighborhood.
F
When
you
get
closer,
you
know
in
smaller
yards
higher
a
lot
coverage.
Those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
it
can
potentially
impact
the
neighborhood
and
the
neighbors,
so
it
never
really
caught
fire.
Although
I
think
that
that
one
still
has
some
potential
where
you
know
in
return
for
affordable
housing,
you
have
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
on
those
dimensional
standards,
not
great.
You
know.
F
You
can't
go
ten
stories
instead
of
five
stories,
but
you
can,
you
know,
change
the
light
coverage
standard
by
a
little
bit
to
avoid
having
to
go
to
the
bca.
Actually,
the
architects
and
developers
with
I
mean
the
design.
You
know
kind
of
scott
with
him
and
stream
collaborative
were
the
ones
who
said
wow.
That
would
really
make
a
difference
to
them,
because
they
really
they
find
themselves
stuck
going
to
the
bga
for
a
foot
and
a
half.
F
You
know
or
something
like
that
when
they
don't
feel
it
changes
the
character
in
any
significant
way,
but
still
requires
them
to
go
through
that
process.
F
So
we
brought
that
voluntary
approach
to
him
again
talking
about
parking
all
the
things
we
mentioned
before
and
I
think
the
general
view
was
that
two
things
one
is
that
those
weren't
deep
incentives,
because
we
had
ruled
out
the
ones
that
the
developers
said
were
the
most
valuable
to
them
and
and
that
there
were
still
those
underlying
concerns
about
impact
on
middle
moderate
income
housing.
F
The
general
you
know,
compare
geographic
shopping
for
for
development
sites
outside
the
city,
and
I
think
at
that
time,
er
in
the.
In
the
midst
of
this
discussion,
the
city
went
through
an
upzoning
in
the
greater
downtown
area,
so
it
up
zoned
to
five
stories
on
west
state
street
it
up
zoned
at
downtown,
including
the
areas
of
green
street
garage
and
where
city
center
is
now
all
those
projects.
F
We
know
all
those
areas
went
through
an
up-zoning
analysis
of
a
couple
of
stories,
and
so
that
was
viewed
as
maybe
sufficient
to
induce
additional
housing
supply
has
nothing
to
do
with
affordable,
of
course,
but
it
did
have
and
made
housing.
F
You
know
it
made
it
more
feasible
to
build
more
housing
units,
and
then
the
city
submitted
a
recommendation
later
on
to
the
ida,
saying
that
the
ctap
policy
should
incorporate
an
affordable
housing
provision,
and
the
city's
recommendation
in
that
regard
was
to
set
a
goal
of
20
affordable
for
any
project
that
receives
ctap
assistance.
That
includes
housing,
rental
housing
that
is.
F
Secondly,
it
was
targeted
for
rents
at
75
percent
of
area,
median
income
in
households
that
could
earn
up
to
80
percent
of
area
median
income
in
the
and
then
the
the
third
major
component.
That
recommendation
to
the
city
to
the
idea
was
to
provide
enhanced
incentives
to
make
that
feasible
for
the
developer,
recognizing
that
the
rent
would
be
reduced
if
they,
if
they,
you
know,
there
was
no
expanded
density
requirements
in
terms
of
density
bonuses
or
anything.
It
was
just
within
the
framework
of
the
existing
zones.
F
The
ida
got
busy
on
a
number
of
projects
and
started
focusing
on
energy
and
diversity
issues
and
didn't
get
back
to
the
affordable
housing
for
a
couple
of
years.
It
seems-
and
now
they,
as
you
know,
they
they
have
just
recently
gone
ahead
and
adopted
a
workforce
housing
policy
which
is
responding
to
the
city's
recommendation
so
they've
the
policy
says:
20
percent
of
units
should
be
below
market
rate
at
80
percent.
Ami
rents.
F
They,
however
importantly
they-
and
that
applies
not
just
to
the
city
but
anywhere
they
do
a
housing
project.
So
that's
not
just
cities
focus,
it
would
be
topics
county
wide.
They
don't
really
do
a
lot
of
housing
outside
of
the
city,
but
you
know
in
the
future
they
may,
and
secondly,
they
did
not
agree
with
the
city's
recommendation
to
provide
enhanced
subsidies
or
abatements.
F
So
they
were
worried
that
that
would
reduce
reduce
revenues
to
communities
in
terms
of
property,
taxes
and
part
that
were
needed
to
support
the
new
housing
and
development.
You
know
it's
school
children
and
you
know
demand
on
roads
and
transit
and
stuff
like
that,
so
so
they
they
made
a.
It
was
a
very
significant
step
for
them
to
incorporate
a
requirement
in
the
first
place,
but
they
really
were
concerned
that
the
enhanced
assistance
was
not
workable
in
their
mind
and
when
they
calculated
out
what
the
cost
per
affordable
unit
would
be.
F
Per
unit,
which,
of
course,
when
you
look
at
that
and
say
wow,
that's
that's
a
pretty
steep
price
to
get
a
unit
per
unit
and
it's
all
local
money.
It's
not
leveraged
money.
It's
all!
You
know
displaced
property
tax
money,
so
they
really
didn't
think
that
was
a
wise
investment
from
a
community
perspective.
It's
where
it
boiled
down
to
so.
F
In
the
end,
they
said
we're
going
to
put
the
20
requirement
on,
but
we're
not
going
to
provide
any
additional
incentives
and
we'll
have
to
see
how
this
works,
but
they
also
indicated
that
they're
not
in
any
position
to
monitor
or
enforce
a
30-year,
affordable
housing
requirement.
F
So
they
said
the
their
their
policy
incorporates
an
in
lieu
fee
as
an
alternative,
so
project
can
go
either
provided
in
the
project
site
or
they
can
make
a
payment
to
the
community
housing
development
fund,
that
cornell
city
county
fund
for
affordable
housing
and
they
set
a
in
lieu
fee
equivalent
to
25
000.
For
each
affordable
unit
that
would
have
been
required,
they
call
it
five
thousand
per
per
unit
in
the
entire
project
that
translates
into
for
every
inclusionary
zuni.
F
That
would
be
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
and
that's
where
they
that's,
where
the
policy
is
their
their
perspective
is
to
try
that
and
see
how
it
works,
and
if
developers
go
ahead
and
develop
under
that
program,
then
they'll
probably
look
to
increase
that
amount
in
the
future.
F
The
staff
of
the
eida
was
concerned
that
it
was
going
to
frustrate
some
projects
and
didn't
encourage
that
rate
going
higher
than
25
000.
Initially
part
of
the
concern
from
the
staff
was
that
the
ida
wanted
that
money
to
come
in
up
front
at
the
closing.
They
didn't
want
to
be
chasing
it
for
10
years.
They
didn't
want
to
set
up
a
loan
agreement.
They
wanted
the
money
to
come
in,
so
it
could
be
utilized
in
the
community
and
paid
to
the
community
development
fund
to
create
housing.
F
You
know
kind
of
in
the
same
time
frame
as
the
projects
being
developed.
So
that
means
the
developer
has
to
basically
come
out.
You
know
as
part
of
the
original
project
cost
because
developers
maximize
their
bank
loan
already
in
their
projects.
Essentially,
the
view
is
that
that
will
mean
that
the
developer
will
have
have
to
come
up
with
more
equity
into
the
project,
to
pay
that
that
fee,
which
doesn't
really
enhance
the
economics
or
their
project
at
all
directly.
F
So
it's
viewed
that
that's
going
to
increase
more
equity
requirement
and
that's
you
know
that
can
be
more
difficult
because
the
developers
are
looking
at
their
investment
based
on
the
amount
of
equity
they
have
to
put
into
the
project.
They
call
it
the
cash
on
cash
return
for
every
dollar
they
put
in
what
on
an
ongoing
basis.
F
They
expect
a
return
on
that,
typically
for
the
ida
projects,
it's
somewhere
between
eight
and
fourteen
percent,
so
the
requirement
to
add
20,
affordable
on
a
typical
project
when
they
looked
at
three
different
historical
projects
that
the
ideas
worked
on
in
the
city
was
that
it
would
reduce
at
25
000
per
affordable
unit.
It
would
reduce
the
return
by
for
the
developer
by
one
full
percentage
point.
F
So
if
a
project
was
going
to
make
ten
percent,
it
would
now
make
nine
percent
in
terms
of
that
cash
on
cash
return
metric
that
in
that
developers,
use
oftentimes.
F
So
I
thought
that
was
workable
from
a
developer's
point
of
view,
but
they
also
thought
it
was
fairly
substantial
as
well,
because
these
projects
are
coming
forward
early
in
the
process
before
all
the
costs
are
known.
So
there's
still
a
pretty
high
level
of
risk
that
there's
going
to
be
higher
costs
or
you
might
have
to
reduce
the
number
of
units
to
get
through
the
site
approval.
F
You
know
the
the
site
plan
approval
process
or
there
could
be
other
extra
costs
that
you
can't
anticipate
early
in
the
process,
or
maybe
it
doesn't
rent
up
as
quickly
as
you
hope,
those
kind
of
issues,
so
they
thought
they
were.
They
thought
that
was
a
good
balance.
I
guess
is
what
it
boils
down
to.
So
that's
that's
the
history
of
where
we
are
right
now,
the
heather
mcdaniel,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
tcad
and
also
staffs
the
ida,
is
coming
to
this
week.
F
This
month's
planning
and
economic
development
committee
meeting
on
next
tuesday
next
wednesday,
rather
for
a
quick
discussion
about
their
workforce
housing
policy
when
there
was
some
prior
discussion
at
the
planning
economic
committee
last
month,
there
were
concerns
raised
that
the
in
lieu
fee
was
not
high
enough
and
and
that
the
ida
did
not
follow
the
city's
recommendation
by
providing
enhanced
incentive.
F
E
F
Employment,
it's
not
technically
a
ctap
policy.
It's
a
idea,
ida
policy-wide,
county-wide
policy;
it's
not
only
tied
to
ctap,
but
ctap's
the
only
program,
that's
specifically
designed
to
support
mixed-use
pro.
You
know,
projects
that
include
housing.
F
F
Correct
correct
lansing
has
established
a
c-tap-like
zone
at
their
city
center
up
by
rogues
harbor
in
that
area,
but
they
haven't
had
any
market
rate
developers
come
forward
there.
They
have
the
one
affordable
housing
project.
What's
it
called
an
asa.
E
Aren't
they
applying
for
for
tax
abatements
and
things
in
just
the
construction
and
everything
in
lansing
like
they
do
in
the
city.
F
In
some
cases
it
depends
whether
you're
a
for-profit
or
not-for-profit
developer,
because
a
not-for-profit
developer
already
is
exempt
from
sales
tax
purchases,
but
if
you're
for-profit
it's
is
taxable,
I
don't
think
many
of
those
out
projects
outside
the
city
have
come
to
the
ida
for
one
reason
or
another,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
thinking
is
on
that
I'm
not
sure
conifer
has
come
to
the
ida.
I
don't
believe
they've
been
on
their
list
of
projects.
F
D
D
F
That
was
the
concern
was
that
to
support
that
number
of
affordable
units
at
60,
ami
that
the
developer
would
in
all
likelihood
try
to
build
high-end
luxury
units
to
support
that,
because
they
provide
the
greatest
income.
If
you
can
find
people
who
will
rent
them
at
that
rate
and.
D
D
It's
even
in
neighborhoods,
like
west
state
street
is
like
our
last
affordable
neighborhood,
and
I
I
have
this
real
fear
that
you
know.
Like
I
mean
I
read
brian
crandall's
comparison
of
the
a
scary
thing
and
then
the
new
thing
that
is
it
arno
realty,
is
that
what
it's
called
the
one
that
did
that
you
know
saying
that.
F
D
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
I
think
you're
right,
you
could,
you
could
say
it's
got
to
be
twenty
percent.
You
know
at
eighty
percent,
ami
or
or
fifteen
percent
at
seventy
percent
ami
or
ten
percent
at
sixty
percent
ami
I
mean
those
could
be.
That
would
be
a
way
to
address
that
is
by
being
more,
you
know,
make
it
more.
E
F
Yeah,
how
you
do
it
some
options
for
it.
It
doesn't
get
around
the
problem
that
john
guttridge,
if
you
would
have
triggered
the
requirement,
would
have
had
a
hard
time
making
a
moderate
income
project,
though
because
he'd
still
have
to
provide,
I
mean
unless
he
was
truly
committing
to
make
those
units
meet
at
80
ami
or
something
he's
he's
talked
about
goals,
but
actually
john's
numbers.
F
Don't
he's
not
necessarily
binding
himself
to
80
mi
in
his
projects,
but
he's
definitely
much
more
in
that
moderate
income
range
no
doubt
about
it,
so
he
he
might
be
able
to
meet
it,
but
he
could
also
frustrate
a
project
like
that
to
say
well,
I'm
at
84.
You
know
whatever
I.
D
Like
what
is
now,
I
forgot
what
I
was
what's
what
frustrated,
what
what
is
the
vision
of
like
is:
is
the
plan
just
to
allow
developers
to.
D
You
know
buy
old
properties,
and
I
someone
help
me
out
here.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
at
what
point
you
you
can
convince
anyone
how
like
okay.
This
is
what
I
was
going
to
say
and
I
forgot
when
we
up
zoned.
Wasn't
that
a
moment
to
try
something
and
then,
if
you
and
then,
if
you
have
a
year,
where
no
one
comes
forward,
then
you
say:
gee:
we
frustrated
every
development
because
buildings
last
so
long.
If
it
takes
a
year
or
two
I
don't
like,
we
could
have
tried.
D
You
know
the
waterfront
zoning
that
could
have
been.
We
try
incentive,
inclusionary
zoning,
mixed
income
or
or
now
the
whole
west
end.
So
if
what
do
you
think
cause
you're
an
advocate
for
affordable
housing,
how
do
we
stop
gentrification
and
include
mixed
income?
What
what
should
we
be
advocating
for.
F
In
in
retrospect,
the
up
zoning
was
a
moment
of
time
where
we
could
have
tied
the
up
zoning
to
some
other
community
benefits.
We
wanted
to
see
that
that
was
a
lost
opportunity
in
retrospect
that
there
has
even
been
some
discussion
about
down
zoning
to
react
to
upzone
again
on
condition.
F
You
know
like
we'll,
take
everybody
down
two
stories
and
if
they
want
to
get
those
two
stories
back,
they
gotta
have
to
include
affordable
housing
that
might
create
a
lawsuit
that
may
not
be
as
simple
as
it
sounds,
but
that
was
there
was
a
recognition
that
that
that's,
maybe
one
of
the
more
powerful
things
you
know
when
you
provide,
sir,
you
know
buy
right
up.
Zoning
is
a
pretty
valuable
thing
and,
of
course,
there
was
a
criticism
of
the
sale
of
the
city.
F
Harbor
site
was
it
was
up
zoned
and
then
the
property
owner
who
owned
a
one
or
two
story.
Building
for
20
years
there
commanded
a
very
high
price
for
the
land,
which
some
of
that
profit
could
have
been
used.
You
know,
wasn't
really
earned
he.
It
was
up
zone
to
allow
nine
or
ten
stories
or
something
from
what
it
was
before
and
the
vote.
F
You
know
that
property
owner
walked
away
with
seven
or
eight
million
dollars
as
a
sales
price,
when
maybe
some
of
that
could
have
been
used
creatively
to
help
subsidize
affordable
housing
on
this
site
in
return
for
the
higher
zoning.
But
that's
that's
what,
under
the
bridge,
you
can't
go
back
and
change
those
things.
What
has
been
a?
I
think,
a
challenge
for
everybody.
Looking
at
these
issues
has
been
that
when
we
talk
about
expectations
from
projects,
especially
especially
at
the
ida
level,
we're
not
focused
on
any
one
priority
over
another.
F
So
for
a
long
time
it
was
about
local
labor,
you
know
always
was
a
focus
and
and
then
diversity
and
and
and
then
you
know
you
know,
there's
you
know
green
energy
issue,
you
know
green
green
buildings
and
now
affordable
housing,
and
so,
when
nobody's
ever
willing
to
say
our
top
priority
is
x.
It's
always
all
the
above.
F
So
if
there
was
a
real
priority
choice
for
affordable
housing,
I
think
that
would
have
led
to
policies
that
would
have
supported
that.
But
that's
not
the
way
we
look
at
the
world
or
we
look
at
development
because
it
has
impacts
on
all
those
things,
of
course.
So
that's
that
that's
a
challenge.
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
going
to
provide
any
solutions
there.
F
In
terms
of
I
mean
what
was
learned
in
burlington,
which
has
had
an
inclusionary
zoning
program
since
1990,
there
are
some
lessons
from
that
program.
F
F
They've
developed
about,
I
don't
know
300
units
over
30
years
on
that
project,
scattered
very,
very
generously,
scattered
throughout
the
community,
not
all
clustered
in
one
area,
but
that's
still
only
like
five
or
seven
per
year.
It's
not
a
huge
number
and
what
they
learned
is
half
of
the
units
that
were
built
under
their
inclusionary
zoning
program
were
built
by
not-for-profits,
so
it
appears
that
developers
partnered
with
a
not-for-profit
and
they
would,
I
don't
know,
convey
them.
F
They
also
had
an
in-lieu
fee
requirement
that
an
originally
was
started
at
20
000
a
year
back
in
1990
or
95.,
and
the
first
project
that
came
through
the
pipeline
said
I'll
go
for
the
in
lieu
and
lieu
payment
that
common
council
thought
they
were.
They
were
hoodwinked.
You
know
it
was
too
too
little,
so
they
raised
it
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
ever
since
they
raised
it
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
F
They've
never
had
another
developer,
seek
the
loop
payment
so
and
it
probably
probably
set
it
too
high
if
they
wanted
to
make
that
a
real
option
for
developer,
and
that
was
c
that
was
cpi
adjusted.
So
actually,
I
think
by
today's
standards
more
like
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
to
buy
your
way
out
of
the
affordable
housing
requirement,
but
I
actually
so
they
had
a
developer.
Look
at
that
and
they
kind
of
critique
that
kind
of
not-for-profit
developer
partnership.
F
I
actually
think
that's
a
pretty
effective
way
to
create
affordable
housing,
though
you
know
so
often
inhs
and
others
are
looking
for
housing
sites,
and
we
always
say
we
want
to
have
more
small
scale
projects,
not
huge
projects
that
may
even
potentially
be
for
sale,
housing
rather
than
rental,
and
so,
if
there's
a
prime
site
somewhere,
that
a
developer
can
provide
to
a
developer
to
a
not-for-profit
developer
and
maybe
even
be
induced
to
provide
some
additional
incentives.
You
know
funding
for
that.
F
That
seems
like
that
could
be
a
model
that
could
actually
produce
quite
a
bit
of
housing
if
you're
willing
to
give
up
on
the
fact
that
the
housing
has
to
be
integrated
into
the
project
itself,
the
market,
the
market.
You
know
the
specialties
of
the
real
estate
market
are
that
you
have
for-profit
developers,
and
you
have
you
know
not-for-profit
developers
and
they
both
know
their
their
area
well,
but
they
use
different
kind
of
lenders.
They
use
different
financing
structures,
they're
used
to
different
monitoring.
F
I
mean
it's
really
two
different
worlds,
even
though
the
you
know
the
apartments
look
exactly
the
same,
so
you
know
there
might
be,
it
might
be
world
exploring
that
model
in
which
you
try
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
make
the
not-for-profits
increase
their
their
unit
count,
particularly
maybe
in
smaller
scale
sites?
How.
F
Well,
I
mean
the
you
know
the
simplistic
way,
and
am
I
saying
it's.
The
best
solution
is
this
in
lieu
payment
that
goes
to
the
community
housing
development
fund,
because
that's
the
pool
of
funding
that
not
for
profits
apply
for
so
that
is,
you
know
it
can
be
an
effective
way
to
increase
the
count
it
doesn't
that
doesn't
guarantee
that
the
new
housing
is
going
to
be
built
in
any
close
proximity
to
the
original
project,
but
it
does
look
at
the
larger
housing
market.
F
F
Who
accepts
that
as
a
good
piece
of
property
I
mean
I
can
imagine
developers
giving
giving
land
away
that
they
don't
want
and
saying,
there's
your
housing
site,
but
it
would
have
to
be.
You
know,
acceptable
to
the
develop.
You
know
inhs
or
you
know,
tompkins
community
action
or
something
like
that.
They
do
struggle
to
find
sites
sometimes
they're,
particularly
in
good
neighborhoods.
B
Mesa
nels:
are
you
aware
of
any
model?
I
mean
you
kind
of
just
addressed
this.
You
know
the
difficulty
of
finding
sites,
but
you
are.
Are
you
aware
of
any
model?
Okay,
or
can
you
conceive
any
model
in
which
a
developer
could
pay
the
in
lieu,
but
had
to
provide
had
to
identify
a
site
in
the
same
vicinity
of
their
market
rate
development?
I
I
think
you
just
addressed
this.
F
Right
and
that
you
can
certainly
put
a
geographic
limitation
on
it,
of
some
sort
that
made
sense
that
you
wanted
it
to
be
in
the
same
neighborhood,
the
same
school
district
I
mean
whatever
you
want
to
think
about.
Realistically,
the
larger
scale
projects
are
in
urbanized
areas,
you
know,
so
you
know
if
you're
adjacent
to
the
green
street
garage,
you
know
what
here's
really
any
other
development.
You
know
smaller
lots
available
there
that
would
be
appropriate
for
small-scale
development.
F
The
alternative
to
that
would
be
what
inhs
has
partnered
with
when
they,
when,
when
they
made
a
proposal
for
the
green
street
garage
was
which
they
would
condo
minimize
60
to
75
units
of
a
building
and
take
over
ownership.
So
that's
a
variation
on
it.
You
know
a
condo
versus
actual
land
ownership
and
that
that's
a
way
you
can
actually
integrate
it
into
a
project
physically.
F
But
even
when,
under
that
model,
where
inhs
was
going
to
partner
with
new
mark
newman
development,
the
developer
of
city
city
center
for
the
green
street
project,
they
were
going
to
have
free.
You
know
basically,
independently
freely
free
operating
components,
the
building
separate
entrances
for
each
project,
even
though
they
were
stacked
on
each
other
and
from
the
outside.
They
may
look
the
same,
but
they
were
functionally
independent
buildings,
because
the
financing
for
tax
credit
projects
requires
the
affordable.
F
A
I
have
a
question
for
you,
but
first
you'll
know
that
everyone
will
know
that
john
marcelo,
our
next
guest,
is
here
so
we
have
about
you,
know
limited
time,
maybe
another
10
minutes
or
so.
So.
One
of
the
issues
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
committee
over
time
has
been
the
issue
of
single
family
homes
because
that's
also,
I
think,
certainly
impacts
affordable
housing
in
the
city
and
we
have
the
phenomena
here
on
developers.
A
A
The
market
for
sale
that
would
certainly
address
the
issue
of
middle
to
higher
income,
folks
being
able
to
have
their
own
homes.
I'm
not
sure
would
it
would
address
homeownership
for
lower
income
people,
but
has
have
there
been
a
discussion
about
at
the
city
level
about
addressing
the
issue
of
single-family
homes
and
how
to
provide
more
or
a
more
robust
market
for
those
or
is
it
just
kind
of
a
free
market?.
F
Well,
let
me
just
mention
one
of
the
things
that
lynn
thought
about
when
she
was
developing.
The
inclusion
or
tony
was
that
whole
issue
about.
Could
a
developer
acquire
a
for-rent
single-family
home
that
was
historically
owner-occupied
and
convey
it
to
a
community
land
trust?
F
You
know
a
community
housing
trust
like
inhs,
thereby
converting
it
it's
at
risk,
because
it's
being
rented,
let's
bring
it
back
into
home
ownership
and
inhs's
community
housing
program
could
make
it
affordable
to
to
families
that,
certainly
under
80
ami
most
of
them
tend
to
be
below
60
actually
in
practice.
So
that
would
be
one
approach
is
to
again.
This
would
be
like
this
in
lieu
payment.
F
Maybe
would
would
induce
that
the
other
issue
the
city
is
looking
at
kind
of
at
a
larger
market
area,
and
market
presence
is
the
impact
of
short-term
rentals
on
that
whole
issue
of
removing
for
sale,
housing
for
single-family
homes
in
the
marketplace,
and
there
are
several
proposals
floating
around
that
would
regulate
the
way
that
houses
you
know
homes
could
be
converted
to
short-term
rentals,
which
probably
has
a
greater
impact
than
the
actual
rent
for
single-family
home
use.
F
Tom
knight
has
been
working
on
examining
that
and
looking
at
different
models,
and
there
are
some
online
enforcement
tools
that
make
it
easier
to
follow
up
on
those
procedures.
Then,
because
you
can
go
on
to
the
same
reservation
systems
essentially
and
see
where
those
homes
are,
and
you
can
track
it
remotely
without
having
to
go
out
there
physically
and
inspect
homes.
F
So
that
might
be
another
area,
but
in
terms
of
we
have
been
trying
to
track
those
sales
of
when
homes
have
converted
from
owner
occupied
to
rental,
talked
with
jay
franklin
a
little
bit.
Who
has
been
tracking
that
a
little
bit
to
see?
That
is
a
trend,
but
it's
hard.
It's.
You
know
it's
hard
to
look
at
the
database
and
know
for
certain,
because
so
many
people
don't
use
their
own
names
and
their
own
home
address
for
ownership
issues.
F
So
it's
a
little
hard
to
figure
out
when
is
or
there's
an
estate.
And
you
don't
know,
what's
you
know
whether
it's
being
owner-occupied
or
not?
So
I
think
that's
an
area
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about,
because
we
have
seen
those
trends
in
neighborhoods
where
we've
seen
that
occurring.
But
by
and
large
I
think
it's
probably
less
of
an
impact
than
short-term
rentals.
B
F
Yep,
that's
right!
I'm
gonna!
I'm
gonna,
hang
out
and
work
on
some
projects
and
listen
to
john
thanks
very
much.
C
A
Everyone
knows
john
mazzello
from
human
services
coalition.
A
Okay,
so
no
introduction
is
needed
and
john's
gonna
talk
to
us
about
2-1-1.
B
Yeah
I'm
trying
to
do
that
right
now.
Okay,
I
should
have
thought
of
this
earlier.
I'm
sorry
to
be
wasting
your
time.
Let's
see
now
I
need
to
no.
C
B
B
Yeah
the
issue
is,
I
can't
open,
I
have
to
convert
to
google
docs,
but
yeah.
If
you
can
email
me
your
presentation
and
I
can
convert
it
to
google
slides
then
I
can
do
it.
G
B
G
Okay,
all
right,
so
thanks
everyone
for
asking
me
to
present.
I
gave
up
a
variation
on
this
presentation
a
month
and
a
half
or
so
ago
to
the
group
of
funders
who
have
been
meeting
regularly,
including
the
community
foundation
and
hsc,
and
the
park
foundation
and
several
others
and
anissa
was
on
the
call
there.
G
So
I'm
glad
to
to
be
able
to
give
this
again
with
more
updated
information
to
get
started,
and
I
know
many
people
are
familiar
with
2-1-1,
but
I
always
like
to
share
just
the
various
different
ways
that
people
can
get
in
touch
with
two
on
one,
which
is
tompkins,
county's
comprehensive.
We
call
comprehensive
information
and
referral
service,
so
two-on-one
provides
information
for
people
who
are
looking
for
help
on
all
the
different
ways
that
they
might
be
able
to
find
help
in
the
community
and
there's
a
number
of
different
ways.
G
You
can
get
connected
to
2-1-1.
You
can
call
obviously
2-1-1
or
our
800-number
1-877-211-8667.
You
can
text
898-211
during
regular
business
hours.
You
can
email
us,
you
can
live
chat
on
the
two
on
one
tompkins.org
website.
We
traditionally
have
offered
walk-in,
though
that's
currently
paused.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
people
can
access
211
and
then,
if
they
don't
want
to
have
a
direct
connection
with
a
live
person,
they
can
also
search
our
our
resource
database
online
at
211tompkins.org.
G
G
G
No
problem
so
two
on
one
maintains
a
database
of
about
1700
programs
and
services
from
local
on
up
to
federal,
mostly
they
are
non-profit
or
government,
though
we
occasionally
will
have
for-profit
services
if
they
are
the
only
one
that
meets
a
need
or
if
there's
a
critical
need
that
those
are
meeting.
We
use
a
standard
called
the
alliance
of
information
and
referral
systems
in
from
international
standard
to
both
develop
and
maintain
our
database
and
to
to
inform
some
of
our
operations
heirs.
G
That
alliance
or
information,
referral
systems
or
heirs
is
the
credentialing
body
for
two
on
one
programs,
and
we
do
have
some
staff
who
maintain
the
certified
information
and
referral
specialist
credential.
We
also
have
agreements
in
place
between
two
and
one
programs,
so
in
case
of
crisis,
we
can
help
each
other
out.
G
This
is
something
that,
in
new
york,
we
did
not
have
to
use
during
the
heaviest
information
time
for
the
pandemic,
but
we
we
have
had
to
use
for
hurricanes
and
things
where
there's
a
program
in
some
part
of
the
country
or
the
state,
that's
unable
to
respond
to
needs,
and
so
we're
able
to
take
that
on
their
behalf.
G
So
I'll
show
you
a
a
a
slide
in
a
second,
but
it's
I
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
little
bit
of
information
to
perfect
all
right.
So
if
you
want
to
go
down
to
the
third
one,
okay,
the
fourth
one,
how
about
the
fourth
one.
G
Right
so
so,
looking
at
this,
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
just
kind
of
walk
you
through
how
things
have
been
going
over
the
past
almost
exactly
six
months,
since
we
really
were
called
into
action
to
support
tompkins
county
and
several
other
partners
when
the
pandemic
started
really
in
in
earnest.
I
guess
so
I'll
start
with
the
big
picture,
looking
at
things
at
the
monthly
you
know
across
the
across
the
different
months,
and
then
we'll
dig
down
just
a
little
bit
briefly
into
some
more
specific
needs
that
are
happening.
G
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
on
this
slide
is
just
show
you
really
the
how
how
our
volume
has
been
this
year
compared
to
other
years,
and
so
what
I
did
was
in
in
the
blue.
There
you'll
just
see
the
average
of
the
three
previous
years,
2017,
18
and
19,
and
then
the
red
shows
us
so
for
the
full
year
we're
up
about
41
and
funny
enough.
We've
been
maintaining
that
pretty
consistently
the
presentation
I
gave
that
anissa
saw
a
couple
months
ago.
G
We
were
up
41,
then
too,
so
we've
been
maintaining
that
up
about
41
over
the
the
whole.
The
whole
stretch
here,
early
august
of
this
year,
we
exceeded
our
full
year,
counts
for
each
of
the
past
three
three
years,
so
we're
really
really
going
above
and
beyond
and
that's
been
maintained
in
terms
of
the
level
of
busyness.
We
are,
we've
had
the
ebb
and
flow
that
we
normally
see
throughout
the
year,
but
it's
just
about
you
know
40
to
50
up
every
month
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
G
Thank
you,
so
this
one
breaks
it
out
just
a
little
bit
differently
by
week,
so
this
is
for
each
week
since
we
were
called
into
action
on
behalf
of
tompkins
county
and
the
tompkins
county
health
department
on
march
13th
and
between
then,
and
now
that's
exactly
26
weeks
or
half
the
year
so
over
that
time
period,
so
not
counting
the
first
couple
months,
first,
two
and
a
half
months
of
the
year
over
that
time
period,
contacts
two
and
up
two
on
one
are
up
fifty
four
percent.
G
So
you
can
see
we've
received
about
8
600
contacts
so
far
that
during
that
period
and
during
the
comparable
time
last
year,
they're
only
about
5
500,
so
we're
up
we're
up
more
than
half
again.
On
top
of
where
we
were
last
year,
you
can
see
that
we've
been
consistently
all
up
almost
every
week.
The
the
couple
peaks
there
that
you
see
in
blue
from
last
year
are
two
special
programs
that
ran
in
cortland.
G
So
it's
either
active
duty,
military
or
national
guard
participate
in
in
these
trainings
and
they
just
need
a
lot
of
people
to
to
process,
and
so
the
way
they
do
it
is.
They
have
a
a
medical
event
where
they
do
free
services
so
that
first
one
around
week,
12
there
that
was
a
veterinary
registration
where
they
provided
the
veteran
free
veterinary
care.
So
we
took
registrations
for
that
at
two
on
one
and
then
in
early
july
we
took
a.
G
We
took
the
registrations
for
the
the
human
clinical
care,
so
those
were
big
big
spikes
last
year
that
were
kind
of
atypical.
Those
did
include
callers
from
from
tompkins
county
who
needed
to
register.
For
this
event,
though,
it
was
in
it
was
in
homer,
but
it
was
open
to
anybody
and
we
had
many
people
from
tompkins.
But
aside
from
those
two
we've
been,
we've
been
above
pretty
consistently.
G
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
this
guy,
I
guess,
converted
over
a
little
weirdly,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
what
happened
here.
G
So
you
can
see
over
the
past
three
years
we
typically
have
had
about
46
percent
of
46
47
percent
of
of
people
who
contact
two
on
one
are
coming
from
within
the
city
of
ithaca
and
then
another
third
of
our
total
comes
from
other
locations
in
tompkins
county
this
year.
We've
seen
you
know
not
a
not
an
extreme,
but
a
pretty
significant
increase
of
the
in
the
percentage
of
people
who
are
contacting
us
from
within
the
city.
G
So
not
only
is
our
volume
up,
but
the
percentage
of
people
who
are
contacting
us
from
inside
the
city
has
grown.
G
It's
like
it's
like
six
and
a
half
percentage
points,
but
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
multiply
it
out
it's
about
it's
about
700
contacts,
so
it
is
more
than
you
know
it's
about
a
12
increase
from
from
our
average
in
terms
of
people
who
are
contacting
from
within
the
city-
and
I
don't
want
to
read
too
much
into
this
at
this
point,
but
I
think
a
a
learning
that
we
may
be
able
to
take
from
this
is
that
the
level
of
need
during
the
pandemic
is
a
bit
more
concentrated
in
the
city
than
in
other
locations
in
in
the
county,
since
our
other
outside
of
the
county,
calls
have
been
pretty
consistent.
G
Our
cortland
county
calls
around
13
and
our
are
outside
of
outside.
Of
our
two
main
zones
calls
also
about
keeping
their
four
percent
total.
So
the
the
increase
in
the
city
really
is
the
is
the
story
here
and
it's
about
a
twelve
percent
increase.
So
that's
just
something
to
know
we'll
continue
to
monitor
that.
But
it's
it's
interesting
to
to
see
a
little
bit
of
the
change
in
the
in
the
in
where
need
is
concentrated.
G
I
say
that
the
percentages
here
are
approximate.
We
do
not
always
collect
the
location
information
if
someone's
calling
in
crisis.
If
someone
has
a
very
simple
but
urgent
need,
sometimes
we
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
get
all
of
the
all
of
the
location
information
from
from
people
who
are
calling,
but
we
we
have
a
method
we
use
to
allocate
the
percentages
based
on
what
we
do
know.
G
Cortland
county,
I
think
that
that
came
in
when
we
first
got
the
211
designation
in
2007.
G
We
we
do
that
on
behalf,
so
each
county
can
choose
where
it's
211
is,
though
it
is
a
pretty
serious,
many
thousands
of
dollars
project
to
redirect
211
that
three-digit
number,
because
you
have
to
work
with
the
fcc
and
the
state
public
service,
commission
and
a
bunch
of
others.
But
we
we
partner
with
seven
valleys
health
coalition
at
the
rural
health
network
in
cortland
county.
G
So
we
do
the
two-on-one
work
and
they
partner
with
us
to
maintain
the
two-on-one
cortland
website
which
uses
our
data,
but
it's
their
website
and
and
they
do
some
of
the
marketing
in
cortland
and
some
of
the
fundraising
there
so
pay
for
that.
G
Sure,
thanks
all
right,
you
can
pop
over
there
so
now
just
dig
in
a
little
bit
deeper
into
some
of
the
need,
that's
happening,
and
so
this
this
we'll
just
use
this
for
kind
of
context,
but
I
want
to
show
you
how
things
change
over
time,
so
this
is
just
the
weeks
are
kind
of
approximate,
because
I
have
one
data
point
for
each
week.
It's
not
like.
G
I
have
done
this
by
by
day,
because
that
would
just
be
a
little
messy,
but
you
can
see
that
over
time
the
the
bigger
needs
have
changed
that
big
one
at
the
bottom,
and
this
will
speak
to
carl,
I
think,
is
consumer
services,
and
that's
so
we
we
break
out
our
we
break
out
our
I
should
mention
we
break
out
our
our
needs,
so
the
previously
I
showed
you
calls
or
contacts.
These
are
people.
These
are
actual
individuals
who
contacted
us.
G
These
are
the
needs,
so
an
individual
may
have
three
needs
or
two
needs.
You
know
they
may
call
it
a
bunch
of
issues
they
need
to
address.
We
use
those
heirs
standards.
They
have
a
like
a
a
dewey
decimal
system
of
of
human
need
that
we
categorize
all
of
our
calls
into,
and
so
that's
how
I'm
able
to
show
you
these
these
breakouts
here
that
biggest
one
at
the
bottom
that
really
maintained
until
july
and
then
kind
of
disappeared.
G
Consumer
services
includes
anything
related
to
income
taxes
and,
as
many
of
you
know,
we
are
the
contact
center
that
supports
the
vita
income
tax
prep
program
at
alternative
federal
credit
union,
and
this
was
a
weird
year
in
that
right
before
taxes
were
due,
taxes
got
extended
and
then
everyone
kind
of
focused
their
lives
on
different
things
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
taxes
were
due
again
in
in
july.
G
If
you
didn't
submit
so
we
had
a
kind
of
a
big
push
you
know
earlier
in
the
year.
That's
just
traditional
for
people
who
are
seeking
assistance
in
filing
their
taxes,
and
then
that
happened
again
in
june
and
july.
But
then,
once
taxes
were
done
due
that
fell
off
pretty
precipitously,
so
you
can
see
our
biggest
ones
have
continued
to
be
big
on.
You
know
organizational
community
services,
that's
kind
of
the
general
catch-all
for
for
for
non-human
service
or
non-medical
service
or
things
that
don't
fit
into
other
categories.
G
So
that
is
always
pretty
large
that
third
one
there
that's
kind
of
gray,
that's
public
health
and
safety.
So
that's
anything
related
to
covid
and
testing
and
mask
wearing,
and
things
like
that
and
that's
been
that's
just
been
big
throughout
transportation
remains
big,
that's
the
yellow
health
care,
and
then
you
can
see.
Food
has
ebbed
and
flowed.
Food
is
the
green
one
kind
of
towards
the
top
at
the
beginning,
very
big.
G
A
lot
of
that
was
driven
by
people
who
needed
to
contact
for
assistance
with
free
meal
delivery
through
the
ithaca
city
school
district,
which
211
was
the
phone
bank
for
if
people
did
not
have
internet
access
and
and
the
the
school
district
required
people
to
contact
every
week
for
the
following
week.
If
they
wanted
to
receive
the
food
now
that
they
had
more
time
to
get
organized
and
into
the
summer,
you
don't
have
to
register
every
single
week
to
get
food
anymore.
G
So
food
has
remained
a
need,
but
it
has
certainly
wound
down,
as
people
have
gotten
into
a
more
regular
way
of
of
seeking
out
food,
though
I
will
talk
about
that
in
a
minute,
housing
and
shelter
you
can
see
is
the
one
above
that
green
and
green
food
that
has
grown
and
is
continuing
to
grow,
so
it
started
pretty
low.
But
now,
as
you
know,
eviction
moratorium
orders
are
looking
to
run
out
and,
and
things
are
changing
there
and
people
have
not
necessarily
been
paying
rent.
G
G
Why
do
you
contact
2-1-1,
oftentimes
people,
contact
two-on-one
when
they're
not
sure
what
the,
if
they're,
if
there's
a
service
that
can
help
them
or
where
they
might
go
or
what
what
it
might
be,
and
so
for
something
like
education,
where
you
often
have
a
home
base
already,
whether
it's
a
school
or
a
school
district,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
not
necessarily
wondering
who
the
right
place
to
contact
would
be
so
you
see
that
is
traditionally
pretty
low
for
us.
On
the
other
hand,
things
around
healthcare
transportation.
G
G
So
you
can
see
transportation
things
related
to
health
care
on
the
rise,
housing
and
shelter
big
increase
month
over
month,
the
public
health
and
safety
has
fallen
a
bit,
as
you
know,
as
as
there
haven't
been
that
many
changes
aside
from
cornell
returning.
There
haven't
been
a
whole
lot
of
changes
in
terms
of
public
orders
around
mask
wearing
business
reopening
mandates.
There
haven't
been
a
ton
of
those
changes,
so
we
have
seen
a
decrease
in
that
area,
though
it
still
remains
high
relative
to
historic
next
slide.
Please.
G
G
I
guess
any
so
you've
got
it
now,
so
you
can
send
it
out
to
the
to
the
group
if
they
would
like
to
see
it
and
look
at
it
more
closely,
but
just
what
what
are
under
some
of
those
categories
so
under
the
organizational
community
service,
our
traditional
information
and
referral
and
other
assistance.
This
is
really
basic
kind
of
supports,
for
you
know.
G
Just
who
do
I
call,
or
you
know
just
I
know
what
it
is,
but
I
don't
know
the
number
things
like
that
office
for
the
aging
we're
seeing
we're
starting
to
see
now,
questions
about
elections
for
elections
and
voting,
and
we
anticipate
that
will
probably
increase
over
the
next
the
next
eight
weeks
or
so.
G
If
you
move
to
transportation,
much
of
the
transportation
demand
has
been
driven
by
requests
for
transportation
to
the
testing
site
up
by
the
mall.
G
We
are
working
with
tompkins
county
health
department
to
be
the
place
that
you
contact
if
you
need
a
free
ride
or
if
you
need
a
ride
there
and
you
cannot
go
especially
if
you
have
a.
Are
you
showing
symptoms?
So
most
of
those
calls
are
related
to
transportation
up
to
the
testing
site.
We
are
now
starting
to
see
calls
again
for
non-emergency
medical
transportation,
so
things
like
forget
about
through
fish
volunteer
transportation,
which
was
which
was
closed
for
most
of
the
summer,
but
has
now
reopened.
G
So
people
are
starting
to
return
to
doctor's
appointments
and
things
like
that,
but
if
they
don't
have
a
vehicle
and
they
can't
take
public
transportation
if
they're
older,
there's
there's
needs
there
under
health
care,
we
continue
to
see
a
demand
around
cova
19
testing,
as
well
as
health,
insurance,
information
and
counseling,
and
that's
that's
up
a
little
bit.
It's
actually
interesting.
G
Our
numbers
for
people
specifically
requesting
help
on
the
affordable
care
act
or
the
health
exchanges
is
down
and
other
other
sources
of
health
insurance
need
are
up,
which
indicates
to
me
somewhat
anecdotally
that
it
may
be
around
people
who
have
lost
their
health
insurance,
but
still
have
an
income
that
might
be
a
little
bit
out
of
the
the
health
exchange
range.
So
maybe
people
in
a
two-family
household,
where
one
has
maintained
their
job
and
one
has
lost
their
job.
It's.
G
Support
them
in
finding
the
right
place,
which
could
include
on
the
health
exchanges,
but
that
is
something
that
that
that
we
see
is
maybe
a
trend
and
then
housing
and
shelter
has
a
big
increase.
Some
of
that
is
driven
by
a
pretty
big
increase
in
cortland
county,
coordinated
entry.
So
a
single
you
know
single
entry
point
for
homeless
services
that
we
support
in
cortland
county,
but
also
we've
seen
that
increase
in
tompkins.
G
So
I
was
talking
with
with
the
211
staff
the
other
day
and
we
were
wondering
if
cortland
county
might
be
the
like
leading
edge
indicator
for
what's
to
come
in
tompkins
county
because
they
do
have
you
know
a
less
rich
service
environment
is,
is
cortland
county
tompkins
county
in
two
months,
and
so
that's
something
that
we're
paying
close
attention
to.
Are
we
seeing
you
know
the
need
really
spike
there
in
cortland
around
housing
right
now,
and
are
we
going
to
see
that
coming
soon
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please.
G
Then
quickly,
you
know,
we've
already
run
through
some
of
this,
but
you
know
under
public
health
and
safety.
We
continue
to
see
questions
around
kova,
19
and
things
like
that,
and
then
the
public
facility,
health
inspections
are
complaints
about.
You
know:
complaints
about
businesses
that
are
not
following
the
rules
under
income
support
and
employment,
we're
starting
to
see
things
like
temporary
financial
assistance,
whether
it's
formal
or
informal,
as
a
need.
G
You
know
a
few
people
calling
about
job
assistance
that
we've
seen
a
decline
in
that
over
the
past
couple
months,
whether
it's
related
to
unemployment
or
related
to
seeking
help.
So
it
may
indicate
that
the
the
layoffs
have
flattened
to
some
extent,
and
then
you
can
just
see
a
couple
things
around
criminal
justice
and
legal
services,
but
these
are
not.
These
are
not
super
significant
if
you
want
to
pop
over
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
I
asked
the
two
on
one
staff
to
share
with
me.
G
Some
of
the
you
know
just
some
of
their
anecdotal
readings
that
don't
exactly
fit
in
with
the
the
different
categories.
I
showed
you
so
things
that
might
span
multiple
categories
or
what
is
you
know
what
what
they're,
seeing
or
hearing
that
isn't?
Necessarily
even
what
the
person
is
is
really
asking
about,
but
what
they're
reading
between
the
lines
and
hearing
when
the
people
tell
their
their
story
so
the
first
and
I
think
you
can
kind
of
see
it
from
the
from
that
that
that
percent
chart
a
couple
slides
ago.
G
We
really
are
seeing
now
a
widening
of
need
comparing
to
earlier
in
the
pandemic.
So
often
we'll
say
you
know,
crisis
2-1-1
is
really
more
narrow,
so
like,
if
you
imagine
a
flood,
many
of
the
calls
are
going
to
be.
Where
are
the
sandbags?
How
do
I
get
food
where's,
the
where's,
the
shelter,
they're
they're,
more
specific,
and
some
of
those
other
needs
get
put
aside
for
a
moment
and
the
same
thing
was
true
earlier
this
year
there
were,
there
was
a
real
constricting
of
the
types
of
needs.
G
G
People
are
concerned
about
the
cost
of
the
test,
whether
it's
free
or
not,
whether
their
insurance
will
cover
it.
There's
been
a
lot
of
information
that
goes
around
about
that
and
also
about.
You
know
that
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
comes
out
from
the
the
state
is
about
going
to
a
state-run
testing
site,
the
closest
of
which
is
in
binghamton.
So
our
testing
site
is
not
a
state
site.
It
is
a
site.
G
You
know
that
the
state
promotes,
but
it's
not
one
of
those
state
sites
where
a
lot
of
the
you
know
where
the
free
guarantee
is
and
all
that
we're
starting
to
see
housing-related
needs,
as
I
mentioned,
especially
around
rental
assistance.
Some
people
may
qualify
for
the
inhs
programs
or
or
other
ones
that
have
started
up.
Others
may
not.
We
have
started
to
receive
calls
with
concerns
about
eviction,
but
not
seen
that
wave
quite
yet,
and
but
we
are
starting
to
see
people
who
are
concerned
about
their
landlord
concerned
about
eviction
not
quite.
C
G
They're,
just
starting
to
be
something
on
people's
minds,
as
I
mentioned,
that
general
temporary
assistance,
whether
it
was
through
mutual
aid,
which
has
had
kind
of
expended
their
money
now
that
they
had
to
give
give
out
to
people
or
other
temporary
assistance
programs,
including
a
lot
of
people
who
have
never
had
to
seek
help
in
a
in
a
formal
way
through
human
services.
G
Before
starting
to
see
that,
and
then
people
who
had
participated
in
some
of
the
free
food
giveaways
that
the
food
bank
did
like
the
drive-throughs
in
the
tc3
now
are
you
know
one
wondering
about?
Is
there
a
pantry?
How
do
I
get
food
again?
We
are
seeing.
People
are
there's
there's,
I
guess
people
who
are
not
so
interested
in
physically
going
into
a
pantry
and
would
prefer
some
kind
of
pick
up
or
drop
off
where
there's
less
contact.
G
So
those
are
some
of
the
bigger
trending
needs
and
then
I'll
just
wrap
up
on
this
final
slide
here.
No,
actually,
two
I'll
do
one
more
after
this
just
quickly.
Just
to
give
you
some
numbers
about
how
our
art,
so
you
saw
we've
had
about
you,
know
thirteen.
Fourteen
thousand
calls
almost
contacts
to
two
one:
one
in
additional,
almost
6,
000,
unique
ip
addresses
or
users
searched
our
database
and
pulled
up
about
18
000
resource
pages
and
searches.
G
So
we
get
a
lot
of
people
who
who
maybe
aren't
comfortable,
calling
or
don't
want
to
call
or
just
want
to
search
themselves,
and
then
our
staff
do
estimate
that
about
two-thirds
of
the
contacts
at
this
point
are
still
somehow
connected
to
covid.
Even
if
it's
not
you
know
specifically
like
where
do
I
get
tested
and
then
I'll
just
wrap
on
this
last
slide.
One
more
just
to
give
you
some
things
that
have
come
out
of
the
partnerships
with
2-1-1
that
have
come
over
the
past
few
months.
G
So
obviously,
we've
been
working
with
the
health
department,
a
lot
and
tompkins
county
government
and
thompson's
county
administration
to
be
a
place
that
the
county
can
refer
people
to
to
take
some
of
the
load
off
of
the
health
department,
and
we've
done.
You
know
a
couple
thousand
calls
we've
taken
it
on
instead
of
those
going
to
the
health
department,
especially
when
they're
about
general
things.
G
As
I
mentioned,
we're
working
with
the
the
transportation,
the
the
covid
food
task
force,
we've
been
closely
involved
with
in
terms
of
their
communication
and
distribution,
arms,
we're
working
on
a
new
birth
to
three
initiative
with
folks
from
the
community
foundation
and
child
development
council,
potentially
another
one
with
youth
services
around
getting
information
out,
we've
been
working
more
closely
with
cuga
health
partners.
G
Formerly
cap,
the
you
know
the
accountable
care
organization,
the
physicians
organization
in
tompkins
county
to
to
better
share
data
and
resources
with
them,
and
then
I
had
the
opportunity
to
virtually
go
to
san
diego
as
part
of
a
robert
wood
johnson
foundation,
mentorship
program
to
learn
about
the
idea
of
community
health
information
exchange,
which
is
a
way
of
sharing
data
across
many
partners
in
the
human
services
side
of
the
world.
So
that's
a
long-term
project
and
not
one
that
to
talk
about
today,
but
just
something
that
may
be
on
the
horizon.
G
You
know
a
couple
years
from
now,
so
I'll
wrap
there
and
see
if
there's
any
questions.
B
C
B
G
B
G
At
2-1-1
yeah,
so
it's
as
a
great
question,
so
it's
interesting
you'll.
You
will
see
that
the
the
the
number
of
calls
actually
is
is
even
peak.
Coved
was
down
a
little
bit
from
peak
peak
tax
time,
but
tax
time
is
really
straightforward.
We
have
a
script
that
we
use.
A
lot
of
the
people
are
calling
have
done
it
before
so
they
know
you
know
it's.
You
know
you
take
people's
information
and
you
make
an
appointment.
It's
not
so
much.
There
is
some,
but
it's
not
so
much
about.
G
G
As
the
as
the
increase
maintained
and
we
did
lose
some
volunteers
because
they
were,
you
know
they
were
older,
that
we
we
moved
our
phone
operations
to
people's
homes
rather
than
in
the
in
the
in
the
office.
It
was
easier
for
our
staff
because
again,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
types
of
questions
they
were
getting
were
very
common.
You
know
where.
How
do
I
get
tested?
What's
the
story
here?
You
know
they
didn't
have
to.
G
They
didn't
have
to
really
kind
of
dig
deep
for
some
of
those
questions
to
find
the
answers
now,
as
things
have
opened
up
again.
Actually,
though,
our
call
numbers
are
starting
to
decline
from
that
real
peak
in
the
in
the
earlier
part
of
the
year.
It's
actually
more
time
consuming
now
the
the
calls
are
lasting
longer
because
they
are
a
wider
variety
of
needs
or
they're,
deeper
now
or
they're
longer
term.
So
I'm
starting
to
see
a
little
bit
of
a
push
on
our
staff.
G
It
is
the
same
number,
but
we're
also
beginning
to
bring
our
volunteers
back
and
we
did
have
one
staff
person
who
was
unable
to
work
for
a
bit
who's
returning,
so
we
we're
okay
right
now
we
have
done
cross-training
with
other
staff
in
the
office
and
not
in
the
office
outside
the
office
to
be
able
to
handle
that,
but
I
think
with
bringing
the
volunteers
back,
I
think
we're
in
good
shape
for
the
rest
of
this
year.
G
If
the
you
know,
if
the
volume
maintains
that
we're
kind
of
40
above
average,
and
then
we
move
into
the
the
tax
season
next
year,
we
may
have
to,
we
may
have
to
think
about
some
temporary
assistance
or
pulling
in
staff
who
have
been
cross-trained
for
shifts,
particularly
during
tax
time.
It's
monday,
monday
and
tuesday
mornings
are
big.
You
know
people
think
about
it
over
the
weekend
and
then
8
30
on
the
dot
they
start
calling.
G
So
we
may
have
to
do
some
targeted
additional
volunteers
or
other
staff
or
even
temporary
help
if
those
numbers
remain
high.
You
know
way.
Two
in
one
works
is
that
we
we
typically
do
not
like
some
of
the
other
programs
like
if
you
call
rochester,
there's
typically
a
little
bit
of
a
hold.
We
typically
don't
have
much
of
a
hold,
except
at
very
busy
times,
and
in
fact
there
was
something
that
went
out
in
the
listserv
is
two-on-one
broken.
G
Weight
we're
really
good
in
tompkins
county
about
meeting
the
need,
but
you
know
it
is
not
unheard
of
for
a
211
program
to
have
a
few
minutes.
A
few
minute
wait,
but
we've
been
we've
been
very
fortunate
in
not
having
to
have
that
be
a
standard
for.
E
B
A
question,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
I
found
you
know
the
information
that
you
have
been
able
to
provide
in
terms
of
where
the
calls
are
going
up
and
so
on
really
valuable,
and
I
think
you
know
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
offline
about-
maybe
us
connecting
more
often
around
that,
so
that
that's
a
way
that
I
can
do
outreach
in
the
community
to
see
what
what
needs
are
out
there,
because
it
sounds
like
2-1-1
really
finds
out
about
him.
First.
G
Yeah,
it's
it's.
It's
been
really
nice
that
we
have
a
you
know
not
that
it
takes
me
zero
time
to
put
a
presentation
together,
but
we
have
our
data
real
time.
We
don't
have
to
compile
it.
You
know
from
paper
records
at
the
end
of
the
month,
so
we're
able
to
especially
on
the
one
offer.
If
you
had
a
question
we
could.
We
could
certainly
pull
something
for
you
all
right,
pretty
quickly
there
and
you
know
it's
interesting.
Just
the
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
you
know
just
always
keep
in
mind.
G
When
would
someone
be
motivated
to
call
two
on
one?
So
it's
not
that
you
know.
If
you
look
at
our
year-round
numbers,
you'd
say:
wow.
Taxes
are
the
biggest
problem
in
tompkins
county.
That's
probably
not
the
case.
You
know
I
mean
you
know,
brings
a
lot
of
money
into
the
community
and
I
think
carl
can
speak.
You
know
talk
about
it,
but
it's.
G
You
know
there's
reasons
that
people
would
call
two
on
one
and
particularly
if
it's
a
service
that
we
contract
to
do
where
we
provide
that
service
on
behalf
of
another
nonprofit
or
if
it's
something
where
it
really
is,
I
don't
know
what
I
need,
I'm
not
sure
where
to
go,
or
I've
called
everywhere
I
can
think
of,
and
now
I
need.
G
I
need
some
professional
help
with
thinking
through
some
other
options,
but
if
you
know
that
you
know,
if
you
know
the
answer,
if
you're
like
I
know,
I
need
to
call
catholic
charities
at
this
point
with
google,
you
don't
call
two
on
one
and
say:
hey.
You
help
me
connect
to
catholic
charities.
You
just
look
for
that.
You'd!
Look
for
that!
So
really
think
about
where,
where
that
that
might
be,
housing
particularly,
is
one
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
great
obvious
answers
for
where
you
would
call
to
get
some
help.
G
So
that's
one
where
I
think
it's
pretty
reliable
food
is
another
one
where
you
know,
especially
as
people
are
new
to
seeking
help,
they
might
be
not
sure
who
to
contact.
A
All
right,
so
we
can
go
back
to
the
staff
report.
B
B
The
proposal
that
our
team,
which
includes
laura
lewis,
nia
nunn,
johanna,
anderson,
liddy,
barger
and
carl
foyer,
are
putting
together,
is
due
october,
2nd
to
enterprise
community
partners,
we'll
be
asking
for
a
million
dollars.
B
Opportunity
for
single
moms
of
color,
specifically
black
women,
that
would
involve
both
the
education
component
and
a
networking
component
that
creates
support
within
this
group
of
women
to
kind
of
support
each
other
going
forward
that
that
part,
I
think
you
know,
is
one
of
the
most
intriguing
aspects
of
the
of
the
proposal,
but
also
at
this
point,
the
the
part
that
I
think
needs
the
most
definition.
B
So
we've
been
working
with
our
technical
assistant,
the
enterprise
has
provided
and
we'll
let
you
know,
I
will
say
that
this
is
again,
as
you
know,
it's
to
address
the
anti-displacement
goal
that
we
named
in
our
assessment
for
housing,
but
as
we
think
of
the
big
issues
around
affordable
housing
and
we
think
of
who
gets
pushed
outside
of
the
city
limits,
and
we
know
that
this
tends
to
be
both
lower
income,
people
and
people
of
color,
and
we
know
that
once
people
get
pushed
outside
of
the
city
limits,
they
have
a
harder
time
accessing
transportation
and
all
the
opportunities,
including
jobs
inside
the
city.
B
This
is
you
know,
you
know,
I
think
you
got
more
than
enough
of
the
point
that
you
know
the
affordable
housing
situation.
Ithaca
is
so
complicated.
This
is
one
way
to
try
to
address
affordability,
coming
from
a
side
angle
like
who
pays
the
money
who
gets
hurt
the
most
by
the
lack
of
affordable
housing,
and
how
can
we
support
people
who
have
the
most
potential
to
gain
by
living
in
the
city?
B
B
So
that's
what
I'll
say
about
staff
report.
There's
not
a
lot
of
other,
exciting
or
interesting
things.
I'm
gonna
be
in
touch
with
our
hud
rep
early
next
week,
because
charles
and
I
have
some
questions
for
you-
that
you'll
be
kind
of
this
is
kind
of
a
preview
of
future
grant
summaries.
B
Where,
on
the
grant
summary
those
need
to
be
included
in
the
2020
program
year,
it
seems
like
it
makes
the
most
sense,
but
at
the
same
time
now
we
had
to
do
an
amendment
to
the
2020
2019
action
plan.
So
again
this
is
kind
of
boring
back
office
stuff,
but
you
will
be
seeing
those
cdbg
cb
projects
on
your
grant
summary
in
the
future.
A
And
I
will,
I
can't
add,
to
what
the
anti-displacement
network
so
the
the
the
financial
education
for
the
group
of
women
you
mentioned,
I'm
actually
part
of
the
planning
committee
working
with
nia
nun,
a
couple
of
other
folks
from
south
side
and
then
myself
and
a
couple
of
our
financial
educators
and
we've
had
two
planning
meetings.
A
The
third
planning
meeting
is
happening
this
coming
monday
with
the
goal
of
doing
two
orientation
sessions
at
the
last
two
mondays
in
september,
and
then
starting
the
financial
education
workshops
in
october,
and
so
we'll
do
financial
education
there'll
be
a
component
on
small
business
for
those
folks
who
migrate
for
those
folks
who
are
interested
in
business
and
then
some
some
housing-related
financial
education
too,
but
that
is
starting.
So
it
is
coming
up
pretty
soon
and
we're
pretty
excited
about
it
too.
B
Yes,
I
think
the
involvement
of
afcu
is
absolutely
critical
and
I
know
that
you've
been
in
direct
discussions
with
nia,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
valuable
for
you
and
me
carl
or
some
other
member
of
your
team.
You
know
I'm
wondering
you
know
about
budget
lines
what
what
might
be
needed
to
support
this
effort
from
your
end,
so
we
can
talk
about
that
or
you
can
you
know
we.
We
can
work
that
out.
G
A
We
have
no
other
further
questions
for
anisa
anything
to
go
over
on
the
grand
summary.
A
A
A
Thinking
about
before
we
call
it
an
end
is
having
tom
knight
because
of
he
was,
as
my
understanding
is,
he
was
overseeing
a
lot
of
the
city's
covert
relief
efforts.
The
the
funding
for
you
know
small
business
in
particular
and
maybe
get
an
update
on
on.
C
B
I
can
definitely
look
into
that.
I
also
wondered
you
know.
Nells
mentioned
tom's
efforts
in
looking
into
regulations
or
interventions
for
short-term
rentals,
as
it.
G
A
Yeah
I'll
speak
for
myself.
I
would
say
yes
because
again,
that
is
something
we've
talked
about,
particularly
against.
It
affects
single
family
homes.