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A
B
A
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G
Public
defecation
is
really
bad
hep
a
corona.
I
don't
know
if
you
need
any
more
information,
but
here
to
advocate
for
that
and
offer
to
help
in
any
way.
I
can.
I
work
nine
to
five
monday
through
friday
and
I
do
loops
around
the
catchment
area,
so
I
could
check
on
it.
If
you
want,
I
can't
offer
to
host
it.
I
know
that
there's
a
need
for
an
organization
to
kind
of
like
take
responsibility
for
it.
G
A
D
E
A
H
Well
I'll
start,
and
I
will
first,
can
everyone
hear
me,
okay,
sort
of
sort
of?
Let
me
pull
us
closer,
so
I'll
start.
Let
me
I'll
be
switching
to
another
screen,
so
I
won't
be
able
to
see
you
but
I'll.
Ask
anissa
or
nails
for
assistance
as
and
tracy
as
we
go
through
so
first
the
question:
do
we
just
want
to
start
with
project
one
and
go
straight
down.
B
H
They
also
ask
that
all
the
funds
being
home
being
one
category
rather
than
split
between
cdbg
and
home,
it
makes
it
easier
in
terms
of
the
record
keeping.
So
we
did
approve
that
you
know
single
family
homes
at
an
affordable
price
are
rare,
unfortunately
in
ithaca,
and
so
this
is
a
project
we
support.
So
we
did.
The
committee
did
fund
or
vote
to
fund
the
entire
24
999.
D
Side
we
could,
although
all
our
changes
are
only
within
the
well
most
likely
only
within
the
ed
category,
depending
on
how
you
want
to
deal
with
our
one
change,
which
might
provide
additional
funding
to
other
sources.
So
so
the
majority
of
the
ni
thing
is
intact,
so
I
would
say
we
could
definitely
get
through
all
the
housing.
I
could
comment
on
the
ed
items
when
we
got
there
and
then
we
could
proceed
through
okay.
D
But
maybe
what
I
was
gonna
recommend
is
sorry.
One
other
recommendation
is
that
maybe
like,
for
example
like
what's
probably
more
interesting,
is
how
you
balanced
home
rather
than
kind
of
line
by
line,
maybe
so
like
there
were
places
where
you
fully
funded
places
where
you
didn't
and
maybe
understanding
the
rationale,
because
I
assume
you
just
were
trying
to
make
trade-offs
and
maybe
kind
of
more
the
substance
of
those
trade-offs,
because
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
the
projects.
That
would
be
the
only
other
recommendation.
I
would
have.
H
C
H
So
to
answer
in
the
spirit
of
chris's
suggestion,
one
of
the
things
the
committee
looks
at
in
home
is
we
really
support
and
pretty
much
always
have
because,
as
you
all
recognize,
some
of
these
funding
requests
are
ones
that
we
get
every
year
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
committee
values
are
the
projects
that
have
to
do
with
the
most
vulnerable
populations,
low-income
folks.
So
the
wanted
on
auburn
street,
for
example.
H
H
H
Unfortunately,
you
know
the
the
the
funding
is
limited
and
we
could
not
support
every
request,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
could
we
did
support
those
that
that
impact
the
most
vulnerable
populations
and
some
we
had
to
scale
back,
even
though
we
support
them
so
project,
two
homeowner
rehab
request
was
125
000..
We
funded
that
at
100
000.,
actually,
one
hundred
thousand
twenty
dollars
and
eighty
cents,
the
twenty
dollars
and
eighty
cents
was
a
some
leftover
funding.
H
H
H
State
street
apartments-
this
was
new.
This
is
the
I
think
it's
the
500
block
of
west
state
street.
We
did
not
fund
that
program
or
that
project,
rather
certainly
a
worthy
project.
They're
developing
these
apartments
for
low-income
people,
the
majority
will
be,
I
believe,
it's
at
least
eight
will
be
80
below
ami.
I
think
the
majority
of
the
units
will
be
for
people
at
least
60
percent
below
ami,
but
given
the
limited
amount
of
funding
and
the
other
projects,
we
did
not
support
state
street
apartments.
B
Well,
they
just
they
still
have
some
funding
issues,
they
didn't
get
their
funding.
I
forget
what
it's
called
an
issa.
You
know
for
special
needs
populations
and
they
were
going
to
have
to
figure
that
out
and
they
still
are.
What's
it
called
I'm
sorry,
e-shape,
okay
and
they
also
are
still
needing
to
get
a
lot
of
other
funding
for
the
project,
including
low-income
housing,
tax
credits.
H
H
H
A
H
Okay,
so
the
first
economic
development
project
excuse
me
is
reuse,
job
training
for
career
pathways.
Again,
one
we're
familiar
with
we
see
each
year.
We
know
that
they
work
with
very
vulnerable
populations
and
they
have
a
lot
of
success
in
this
program.
So
we
did
not
fully
fund
it.
We
funded
mainly
the
stipend,
so
we
as
they
asked
for
a
107
000,
rounded
up.
We
founded
this
in
90
thousand,
primarily
excuse
me
primarily
for
the
start
to
fund
stipends
that
are
paid
to
the
trainees.
H
H
Next,
he
hetp
hospitality
employment
training
through
giac.
We
fully
funded
this,
I'm
sorry
we
did
not.
We
funded
it
at
one
hundred
thousand
six
hundred
forty
three
dollars
and
six
cents.
The
the
odd
amount
again
had
to
do
with
with
some
of
the
funds
that
were
left
when
we
got
to
the
end,
but
basically
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
little
bit
less
than
with
the
ten
thousand
dollars
approximately
less
than
what
they
asked
for.
Then
that's
primarily
for
the
staffing
to
ensure
that
the
program
continues.
H
They
were
able
to
adjust
over
this
past
year
and
we
think
that
they
did
a
a
good
job
and
the
pros
we
had
a
good
discussion
with
the
about,
as
you
were
here
for
the
our
last
meeting
about
the
prospects
of
them,
placing
staff
sorry
placing
trainees
into
employment.
So
we
felt
that
that
deserves
that
level
of
support.
H
Project
and
again
limited
limited
amounts
of
funds.
It's
a
category
with
a
lot
of
ask,
so
I
think
we
were
able
to
put
some.
You
know
some
some
funding
towards
everything,
not
every
not
what
everyone
wanted,
but
I
think
we
were
glad
to
support
buffalo
street
books,
even
though
at
our
initial
discussions
at
the
committee,
we
were
unsure
about
that
project,
but
I
think
the
presentation
at
least
tracy-
and
I
felt
that
the
presentation
before
the
full
board
was
convincing
and
we
were
able
to
put
some
money
towards
it.
D
Yeah,
maybe
I
could
just
add
additional
comments
from
the
so
the
ed
committee
reviewed
these
items
twice
and
felt
quite
strongly
in
both
meetings
that
we
want
to
try
to
fund
items,
seven,
eight
and
nine
as
fully
as
possible.
Just
in
light
of
you
know,
these
are
again
sort
of
very
vulnerable
populations
from
from
a
jobs
perspective
and
we're
coming
out
of
pandemic
in
used
economic
downturns.
So
so
that
was
really
our
kind
of
top
priority
and
we're
happy
to
endorse.
D
D
This
is
a
fairly
sizable
increase
over
last
year's
funding.
Amount,
of
course,
that
last
year's
money
amount
was
a
slight
decline
from
the
previous
year,
but
nonetheless
they're
going
to
get
it
be
getting
significant
more
in
this
action
plan
that
they
got
out
of
the
previous
action
plan.
If
we
would
have
moved
forward
with
these
amounts
and
very
close
to
their
requested
amount,
we're
still
not
on
board
with
funding.
Ithaca
is
books
even
at
the
15
000
level.
We've.
D
It's
we've
dedicated
most
of
our
discussion
at
both
meetings
to
this
one,
because
it's
the
new
applicant,
we
kind
of
know
the
other
programs
quite
well
and
are
not
convinced
yet
that
what
we've
seen
in
the
materials
they've
prepared
in
the
presentation
last
week
that
this
is
a
this-
is
a
sustainable
economic
development
activity.
That's
going
to
contribute
in
the
way
it
needs
to
to
first
of
all
permanent
fde
creation,
and
then
the
turnaround
above
street
books
we're
interested
in
supporting
them
in
other
ways
and
we're
exploring.
Can
we
provide
them
some
technical
assistance?
D
Can
we
do
some
stuff
through
the
ed
loan
program,
but
we
don't
feel
like
in
light
of
this
year's.
You
know
action
plan
that
is
the
best
use
of
ddbg
funds
in
this
way,
so
we
would
advocate
that
either
we
fully
fund
to
give
them
the
best
shot
possible
of
succeeding
or
to
not
fund
it
and
allocate
the
resources
the
other
direction.
D
We
went
with
the
latter,
so
our
recommendation
would
be
to
make
this
funding
line
zero
and
either
put
that
fifteen
thousand.
Our
preference
put
that
fifteen
thousand
in
the
loan
fund,
which
is
quite
low
right
now
and
will
build
up
over
the
course
of
the
year
from
program
income,
but
the
sooner
we
can
get
money
in
there.
D
The
sooner
it
allows
us
to
support
potentially
business
ideas
that
will
be
coming
forward
in
the
latter
half
of
2021
or
if
this
group
felt
like
there
was
another
need
that
we
couldn't
fund
the
ni's
recommendation
that
that
15
000
would
meet
a
higher
purpose.
Then
we're
open
to
kind
of
allocating
it
to
a
non-et
activity
for
this
discussion
of
this
group.
So
I
think
that's
where
the
committee
ended
up
on
those
items.
D
B
D
That's
going
to
lead
to
revenue,
growth
right,
and
you
know,
as
you
heard,
even
in
the
last
presentation,
they
they're
not
yet
able
to
think
about
like
how
they
can
model
the
direct
revenue
growth,
for
example,
impact
on
sales
of
in
the
store
based
on
related
activities.
Right-
and
I
think
I
think
I
should
have
said
at
the
beginning,
like
the
committee-
totally
supports
the
continuation
sustainability
of
buffalo
street
books
and
likes
the
idea
of
them
pivoting
away
from
being
a
solely
a
retail
operation,
to
something
else,
not
convinced.
D
I
D
Okay,
the
problem,
I
think,
though,
is
that
I
mean
I
think
nelson
you
said
it
is
that
a
traditional
like
even
a
loan
that
wouldn't,
in
the
end,
end
up
being
forgivable
right.
They
probably
don't
have
the
cash
flow
currently
to
take
on
that
debt
service
right,
so
we'd
have
to
definitely
consider
it,
probably
as
a
as
a
forgivable
if
they
met
the
the
criteria.
I
I
I
D
And
the
only
reason
for
that
tracy
is
that
nels
pointed
out
that
15
000
would
be
available
to
the
agency
as
soon
as
this
action
plan
was
active
right.
So
you
know
in
the
fall
of
2021,
plus
the
55
000
and
whatever
little
bit
comes
in
between
now
and
then
so
he
would
give
us
on
the
order
of
say,
70
to
80
000
to
work
with
like
right
away,
whereas
to
get
up
to
that,
full
160
will
take
18
months
from
today.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
that
was
the
rationale
behind
that.
J
On
this
subject,
two
two
two
questions:
one
is
the
ethic
of
his
books.
Chris,
you
mentioned
this
as
a
you
were
talking
about
job
creation
and
that
picture
not
being
so
clear.
Could
there
is
there
also
an
argument
that
this
is
about
job
retention
as
well?
I
mean
is
this,
however
undeveloped?
The
business
plan
is,
it
sounded
to
me
like
they
had
a
great
year
this
year,
but
this
move
is
one
they
see
strategically
really
important.
J
J
D
Yeah
sorry,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
us
had
internet
issues
like
I
dropped
out
there
as
well
and
looks
like
nels
is
still
on
the
way
coming
back
so
clearly,
some
sort
of
spectrum
internet
hiccup
in
ithaca
yeah.
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
we
did
talk
about
that.
I
was
waiting
for
nells
to
come
back
and
comment
on
that
as
well.
I
think
we
did
also
talk
about
it.
D
D
If
so,
if
you're
going
to
move
forward
without
this
funding-
and
it's
even
harder
to
evaluate
exactly
the
role
of
this
funding
other
than
making
it
easier
right,
which
I
guess
could
make
the
argument
for
some
partial
funding
is
better
than
no
funding
and
that
scenario
is
they're
going
to
incur
that
cost
and
as
part
of
their
sustainability
plan
nels.
If
you're
back,
can
you
just
comment
again
on
job
retention,
as
eric
has
said
as
well
and
just
any
other
additional
items
you
might
add
to
that
yeah
that.
I
I
think
that
if
you
look
at
take
a
hard
look
at
the
financials
you
you
raise
a
question,
you
know
they.
They
know
themselves,
they've,
had
a
a
rocky
history,
working
against
mega
trends
in
the
industry
and
and
then
the
pandemic.
So
I
think
there
is
a
question
about
viability,
but
we
need
to
have
either
a
documentation
that
jobs
would
be
lost
or
clear.
I
You
know
comment
from
them
that
jobs
would
be,
you
know,
are
expected
to
have
to
be
trimmed
based
on
their
projected
financials,
and
I
don't
think
they
have
projected
that
so
far
in
their
analysis,
but
they
certainly
you
know.
So
I
think
it's
a
tough
call
in
that
regard.
We'd
probably
need
a
letter
from
them
very
clearly
indicating
what
they
expect
would
happen,
but
for
the
assistance.
C
B
I
I
think
we
could
ask
them,
for
we
could
offer
to
provide
some
technical
assistance
and
ask
them
what
type
they
would
would
find
most
useful
and
because
they
did
kind
of
seem
quite
open
to
the
subsidiary,
not
for
profit,
but
they
also
were
looking
at
a
you
know.
We
also
could
bring
in
our
kind
of
our
loan
underwriter,
who
does
a
financial
analysis
and
kind
of
makes
them
take
a
look
at
at
that
aspect
of
it.
I
So
maybe
we,
it
would
make
sense
to
touch
base
with
them
and
find
out
what
they
think
would
be
useful
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
ed
committee
and
bring
it
to
the
ira.
It
would
have
to
come
out
of
our
planning
and
admin
for
itself
and
that's
something
we
usually
safeguard.
But
right
now
with
provide
funding.
We
have
more
planning
and
admin
than
we've
had
in
prior
years.
B
I
mean
what
the
committee
was
impressed
with,
I
think
was
that
they
were
talking
about
looking
at
other
models
of
operating
and
really
coming
to
grips
with,
they're
not
going
to
make
enough
money
on
just
sales
and
thinking
about
these
other
kinds
of
community
connections
as
a
way
to
expand
and
improve
their
business.
So
that's
where
we.
D
D
D
D
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
kind
of
like
what
you
were
saying
with
the
home
funding
right.
If
we
know
that
they're
really
vulnerable
populations,
we
know
that
there's
demonstrated
need,
and
we
know
this
is
a
proven
proposition
of
success
and
outcomes.
So
it's
easy
to
kind
of
look
at
those
and
say
yeah,
let's
fund
those
okay.
A
B
We
may
have
different
opinions
about
that,
but
I'm
always
interested
in
funding
more
for
homeowner
rehab,
just
because
we
have
such
a
small
percentage
of
owner-occupied
housing
and
because
it
it
keeps
it
in
a
condition
that
it
may
be
able
to
stay
on
or
occupied.
But
there
are
other
things
I
would
have
founded
in
here
too.
What
about
you?
Carl.
H
H
Home
ownership
within
the
city
of
ithaca
is
for
low-income
folks
is
low.
Moderate
income
folks
is
rare,
so
I
think
that's
a
project
that,
for
me,
would
be
a
priority
in
terms
of
the
15
000..
You
know
get
them
closer
to
their
ask
75
versus
the
80th
they're
asking
for
in
the
60
that
we
have
said
we'd
funded
for.
H
Well,
in
we
yeah,
we
we
had
quite
we've
had
quite
some
discussions
about
that,
and
I
guess
we
could
jump
to
it.
We
felt
that
there
was
just
as
our
public
commenter
said,
you
know,
having
a
sponsor
is
something
that
we
we
really
felt
is
very
necessary
and,
as
of
now,
you
know,
staff
you
know
has
done
quite
a
bit
of
work,
trying
to
find
the
sponsor
and
no
one
wants
to
have
a
part
of
this.
Apparently
we
recognize
the
necessity
of
it
and
public
works
is
dealing
with.
H
B
Well,
we
also
wondered
about
the
downtown
business
association.
I
mean
they
have
funds,
they
have
funds
for
extra
maintenance
of
the
property
on
the
commons
etc,
but
we
still
we
still
weren't
feeling
that
people
were
really
stepping
up
to
this,
and
you
know
it
seems
like.
Okay,
now
everybody
acknowledges
it's
a
problem,
there's
a
problem
and
it's
become
more
of
a
problem
as
bathrooms
have
been
closed
to
public
or
even
to
customers.
B
B
A
F
Yes,
I've
consulted
with
dpw
a
couple
of
different
times,
most
recently
at
the
commons
meeting
that
happens
on
tuesday
in
joann
cornish's
office
dpw,
I
have
to
say,
dwayne
ross
has
been
wonderful,
he's
been
great
in
talking
through
different
options
where
it
could
be
placed
talking
to
me
about
how
much
time
their
crews
spend
doing
this
at
that
meeting.
Dia
was
also
present,
and
I
think
what
both
dpw
and
dia
find
is
that
there
they
don't
have
an
evening
crew
either
one
of
them
they
have
daytime
crews.
F
Dpw
has
other
types
of
projects
that
they
do
during
the
summer.
So
well,
they
both
indicated
willingness
to.
You
know
pitch
in
in
a
way
because
there's
no,
the
nobody
has
adopted
this
project
and
said
like
here,
is
exactly
what
we
want.
You
know
we're
talking
about.
You
know
wanting
to
see
a
particular
schedule
of
maintenance,
but
you
know
it's
all
kind
of
theoretical
at
this
point
and
they're
not
sure
that
they
can
commit
to
daily
monitoring,
given
the
capacity
that
they
have
right
now.
F
F
There
were
stakeholders
who
felt
that
they
needed
to
be
monitored
systematically
every
single
day
more
than
once
a
day
so
enable
in
order
to
have
that
level
of
monitoring.
A
comment
that
I
received,
I
believe
from
dia
was
there
would
be
a
need
for
more
money
than
eleven
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
like
a
an
additional
part-time
staff,
or
something
like
that.
That
would
exclusively
do
that.
So
there
was
interest.
There
was
a
thought
that
there
wasn't
enough
money
there.
Some
stakeholders
felt
like
it
didn't
need
to
be
monitored.
F
That
often
but
again,
I
think
because
there's
no
one
that's
been
willing
to
like
really
take
this
on
and
head
it
up
and
be
like
hey
here's.
What
we
think
is
gonna
happen
and
here's
how
we're
gonna
bring
together
these
various
groups,
who
have
something
to
offer
to
this
and
possibly
divide
the
money
kind
of
it's.
It
has
a
real
hard
time
moving
forward.
I
Yeah
and
denise
just
developed.
I
want
to
be
clear:
we
weren't
asking
any
of
the
any
of
the
partners
to
actually
be
the
cleaning
crew.
We
were
asking
them
to
monitor
and
then
we
would
call
in
cleaning-
or
you
know,
the
servicing
of
the
facility
from
from
the
entity.
That's
renting
it
so
really
it
wasn't
didn't
seem
like
it
was
a
heavy
lift,
although
there
are
all
sorts
of
issues
that
could
potentially
come
up
in
in
a
in
a
public
restroom.
B
But
I
also
don't
think
you
know,
I
don't
think
that
we
should
have
to
be
the
ones
that
are
calling
in
for
help.
I
mean,
I
think
we
give
the
phone
number
and
you
see
a
problem.
Here's
who
you
call
it
just
it
just
became
a
level
of
management
that
I
don't
think
was
going
to
be
appropriate
for
us.
Unless
there
was
a
major
sponsor,
we
would
get
the
money
to
start
this
off,
but
there
would
have
to
be
other
accountable,
sponsor
involved.
E
Thank
you,
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
been
discussions
with
tompkins
county
health
department
mentioned
the
health
concerns
with
public
urination
and
defecation.
The
county
contributes
to
the
community
outreach
worker
program.
Has
there
been
discussion
about
county
involvement
in
the
sanitation
project.
F
Not
in
this
iteration
as
it
exists,
I
know
that
I
shouldn't
say
no.
I
believe
that
earlier
on
in
the
pandemic,
the
continuum
of
care
communicated
with
the
county,
not
for
not
for
a
portable
restaurant,
this
location,
but
I
believe
when
they
were
exploring
portable
restrooms
in
the
encampments
that
the
county
was
part
of
that
discussion.
The
county
did
not
contribute
money
to
that
project.
F
B
B
C
C
C
J
I
would
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
go
through
the
others.
I
mean,
I'm
I'm
inclined
to
apply
that
20
000
to
another
project
or
the
loan
fund,
but
knowing
going
through
the
others
to
see
if
there's
another
place
where
that
could
be
applied.
Apart
from
the
areas
that
tracy
and
carl
recommended
right
now,
you
know
I'm
inclined
actually
looking
at
the
duplex
on
south
plain
street
and
making
that
more
fully
funded
torn
between
that
and
the
loan
fund,
so
maybe
going
through
the
others
would
be
helpful.
A
H
H
H
10.,
I
think
the
the
largest
item
that
we
did
not
fund
was
the
the
entry
gate,
the
10
000
dollars.
I'm
sorry,
that's
the
ten
thousand.
The
entry
gates
was
the
biggest
one,
but
the
priorities
were
the
raised
bed
and
stone
dust.
I'm
sorry.
The
entry
gate
was
a
priority
and
then
the
water
fountains
could
be
cut
so
primarily
yeah,
ten
thousand
dollars
for
the
water
fountains,
which
apparently
they
I
think
they
said
that
they
had
cut
down
from
the
project
themselves
or
found
alternate
funding.
H
B
H
Number
12
the
urban
bus
stop
upgrades
that
actually
tcat
has
reduced
the
amount
of
the
ask.
So
initially
the
initial
ask
was
nineteen
thousand
nine
hundred
fifty
that
got
reduced
to
seventeen
thousand
one
hundred
dollars,
and
so
we
didn't.
We
didn't
recommend
fully
funding
that
project,
but
so,
instead
of
19
950,
it's
17
100..
H
H
And
then
the
other
large
one
was
the
st
john's
community
services,
the
largest
shelter
and
expanded
permanent
support
of
housing.
We
did
not
fund
that
fully
supported
and
again
you
know
it's
a
project
that
the
most
I
think
vulnerable
population
homeless.
People
needing
you
know
supportive
housing,
but
the
project
itself.
H
B
D
It's
a
fairly
large
ask
from
us
for
a
project
that's
being
displaced
by
a
private
developer,
with
special
zoning
in
the
city
like
it
seems
like
all
of
this
could
have
been
worked
out
more
fully.
I
would
say
up
front
between
the
developer
and
the
city
and
community
gardens
such
that
they
were
left
whole.
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
about
that.
D
I
support
that
we're
going
to
fund
it,
but
it's
unfortunate
that
we're
in
this
position
to
have
to
fund
it
when
the
reason
is
being
displaced
is
is
for
that
redevelopment
project,
which
I
fully
support,
that
pre-development
project,
but
nonetheless,
and
and
in
case
I
have
to
drop
off
before
we
finish.
You
know
I
just
want
to
say
if
you
choose
to
move
ahead
with
the
action
plan
by
before
10
15
and
eric
has
to
drop
off.
I
just
say
I
support
any
of
the
options
we've
discussed
right.
D
So
if
you
decide
to
put
the
15
in
the
loan
fund,
I
support
it.
If
you
decide
to
move
it
into
the
housing
category,
either
with
plain
street
or
something
else,
I
support
that
and
if,
in
the
end
you
decide
to
keep
it
where
it
is
and
keep
in
buffalo
street
books,
I
support
it.
So
I'm
just
saying
that
it
is
don't
don't
feel
like
you
need
to
bring
it
back
next
week.
Just
because
I
wasn't
there.
I
fully
would
support
the
group's
decision
on
any
of
those
scenarios.
D
B
Can
I
just
add
one
other
thing?
I
just
found
some
notes
that
I
had
from
the
presentation
from
the
community
gardens
which
they
said
the
entry
gate,
the
footers
the
raised
beds
and
the
stone
dust
path
were
the
most
important
which
then
I
added
up
and
just
came
to
34
000.
So
there
might
be
a
little
give
or
take
in
there.
F
Sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
updated
information
that
I
gave
you
at
the
meeting
they
followed
up
after
the
public
hearing
tracy.
I
believe
because
there
was
a
question
to
them
and
so
that's
when
they
updated
what
their
priorities
were.
With
the
specifics
about
the
stone
dust
and
the
raised
beds.
B
D
E
B
H
H
H
H
H
I
think
there
was
one
other
thing
that
they'd
asked
for
those
equipment
related
that
we
could
not
buy
or
give
them
the
funds
to
purchase.
We
felt
that
the
stipends
part
of
this
these
are
stockings
for
the
young
people
who
work
with
the
program.
During
the
summer.
We
felt
that
was
really
important
and
we
funded
some
of
the
other
items
relatively
small.
H
You
know
the
items
they
need
to
make
the
smoothies
so
cups
straws
utensils
some
of
the
things
that
for
safety
like
gloves,
mask
sanitizer
uniforms,
so
the
amount
based
on
that
list
that
they
gave
us
we
came
up
with
was
of
the
38
000
that
they
asked
for
we
funded
eighteen
thousand
one
dollar
and
sixty
cents.
The
dollar
sixty,
I
think,
was
some
just
to
make
the
math
work,
but
basically
eighteen
thousand
dollars
on-call
project
20,
the
subdivision
of
an
office
for
the
advocacy
center.
H
H
The
next
one,
the
farmer's
market,
the
online
discounts
for
low-income
folks,
again
one
we-
we
had
quite
a
large
discussion
about
whether
we
felt
that
we
could
support
this
or
not.
In
the
end,
we
decided
that
we
could
and,
as
we
went
through
the
discussion
on
these
items,
we
actually
had
leftover
funds,
and
so
it
was
enough
to
fully
to
fully
fund
this
at
the
nineteen
thousand.
Sixty
eight
dollars
that
they
asked
for
the
farmers
market
is
really
important
to
this
community.
H
We
strongly
supported
their
goal
of
having
more
low-income
people
be
able
to
to
utilize
the
farmers
market,
particularly
the
online
market,
because
things
are
looking
better
now
in
terms
of
covet,
but
we
think
that
for
the
majority
of
this
year,
people
most
people
will
probably
still
be
purchasing
online
and
so
giving
that
ability
to
more
low
income
people.
We
thought
was
really
important.
E
B
H
H
H
First,
we
strongly
support
the
shelter
being
able
to
to
get
back
or
even
exceed,
or
at
least
get
back
to
the
numbers
and
business
as
usual.
If
you
will
being
able
to
run
the
friendship
center
have
more
people
inside
the
building
during
the
day
and
we've
seen
some
of
the
results.
I
think
negative
results
of
people
not
having
access
full
full
access
to
the
shelter
as
they
had
in
the
past
st
john's
does
not
own
that
building.
H
The
question
that
we
asked
was
we
make
an
hbac
upgrade.
You
know
you're
asking
us
to
pay
for
it.
Why
isn't
the
landlord
paying
the
landlord
chai
and
chai
associates?
If
that's
the
correct
name
has
indicated
to
saint
john's
that
they
are
not
interested
in
or
or
will
not
put
any
funds
into
the
building,
so
that
gave
us
some
pause.
H
They
may
keep
the
current
shelter
they
may
not.
So
we
thought
would
it
be
possible
to
put
some
type
of
stipulation
with
the
funding
that,
if
the,
if
st
john's
leaves
that
property
and
if
it's
no
longer
in
use
for
low
modern
clients
that
that
the
funds
are
twenty
thousand
dollars,
three
twenty
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
be
paid
back.
So
I
believe
staff
was
going
to
look
into
that
and
nissa,
I
think,
was
going
to
consult
with
nels
on
that.
H
B
C
J
I
You
know
that
requires
some
investment
itself.
Of
course,
I
think
we
could
structure
it
as
a
deferred
loan
or
a
forgivable
loan
that
provided
that
they
continue
to
operate
it
for
low
mod
benefit
use
over
three
or
five
years.
You
know
it
would
be
forgiven
at
the
end
of
that
term.
That
would
be
one
way
to
structure
it.
Community
housing,
ithaca,
the
owner
of
the
building,
is
a
not-for-profit,
also
has
limitations
on
how
they
can
dispose
a
property
as
a
not-for-profit.
I
I
think
this
is
their
last
asset,
so
they
would
also
have
to
meet
some
not-for-profit
requirements
about
how
they
disposed
of
the
of
the
resource.
I
think
they
generally
have
to
provide
it
for
to
another,
not-for-profit
or
or
otherwise
provide
the
proceeds
to
a
use
similar
to
their
original
mission.
C
H
I
B
I
F
What
I'll
say
is
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
communication
back
and
forth
between
the
committee
me
on
behalf
of
the
committee
and
rich
and
rich,
did
allude
at
some
point
that
it
might
be
a
good
time
to
acquire
a
new
site
because
of
the
lease
running
out.
He
did
indicate
but
did
not
give
detail,
and
it
was
a.
F
It
was
a
vague
indication
that
the
property
owner
chai
has
had
interest
in
that
site
and
I
think
the
the
lack
of
detail
around
that
information
caused
a
lot
of
conversation
in
the
committee,
because
it
brought
up
all
these
things
of
how
exactly
this
would
play
out.
However,
there
just
wasn't
a
lot
of
detail
in
our
communication
about
what
the
landlord's
future
plans
would
be
for
the
site.
F
If
you
know
it
would
be
if
there
was
not
a
new
site
acquired
if
they
would
expect
to
be
able
to
renew
their
lease,
I
don't
see
I
mean
just
if
we
look
at
past
history
of
that
site,
it
has
been
renewed
for
that
particular
purpose.
You
know
that
that
has
been
the
continuing
use
of
it,
but
I
think
the
sort
of
lack
of
information
created
a
lot
of
this.
H
So
one
thing
I
wanted
to
to
ask
anissa
and
nels
was
on
the
sanitation
stations
project
24..
As
I
mentioned,
it
is
something
the
committee
supports.
If
we
had
a
sponsor,
we
would
have
funded
fully.
I
think
I
think
that
that's
clear
from
our
discuss
the
committee's
discussions,
given
that
we
are
still
having
conversations
trying
to
find
someone
who
would
sponsor,
could
we
just
you
know,
put
in
pin
in
the
eleven
thousand
dollars
the
funding,
the
full
funding
for
contingent
upon
us
finding
a
sponsor.
B
B
I
I
think
it's
important
too,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
dilly
dally
around
with
the
business
association
etc.
If
they
don't
want
to
do
it
and
they
see
other
things
as
as
more
important,
I
think
it's
worth
it
might
be
worth
talking
to
human
services
location
with
the
county.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
thing.
Maybe
they
would
want
to
do
that,
but
let's
do
it
real
quickly.
Let's
have
it
either
figured
out
by
the
time
we
have
to
do
our
vote
or,
let's
put
the
money.
A
B
F
F
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
guidance
that
specifically
the
neighborhood
investment
committee
who's,
had
you
know
a
fair,
a
fair
amount
of
conversation
about
this
since
the
fall
you
know
in
in.
If
I
might
speak
for
the
committee
in
the
committee's
view,
you
know,
in
order
for
this
project
to
be
a
success
there
needs
to
be.
F
So
I
think
this
process
very
much
mirrors
a
process
that
happened
in
the
fall
in
the
community.
The
continuum
of
care
was
looking
for
a
sponsor
for
a
porta,
porta
potty
and
you
know,
approach
many
service
organizations,
and
that's
at
that
point
is
when
staff
said
that
they
would
allow
a
porta
potty
on
their
on
their
site.
However
they're
you
know,
I
think
that
the
questions
that
came
to
me
at
that
point
was
like
how
are
they
going
to
staff
that
and
really
they're?
F
There
is
not
an
oversight
plan
that
I'm
aware
of,
nor
was
their
funding
contingent
on
such
a
thing.
So
what
I
mean
to
say
is
back
when
that
that
process
was
starting.
Similarly,
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
among
community
stakeholders
and
service
providers
that
the
restroom
was
needed,
but
this
this
a
similar
level
of
hesitancy
to
be
that
project
sponsor.
So
it
just
seems
like
the
type
of
project
that,
if
an
organization
doesn't
have
a
vision
for
how
they
want
to
see
it
happen,
they
feel
very
hesitant
to
step
forward.
F
So
you
know
I
can't
really
speak
to
where
the
county's
decision
making
has
been
or
the
public
health
department.
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
conversations
with
them,
not
from
me
but
in
the
community,
and
I
think
it's
just
that
they
have
possibly
a
lot
on
their
plate
right
now,
and
this
seems
like
a
smaller
project
that
possibly
they
don't
have
capacity
to
deal
with
right
now.
So
I
don't
feel
hopeful
in
answer
to
your
question
that
in
a
week's
time
we
would
be
able
to
identify
a
sponsor.
F
B
F
I
will
say
to
that
note:
there
have
been
several
stakeholders:
who've
said
that
they
are
interested
in
seeing
a
permanent
outdoor
restroom,
that's
maintained,
as
such
things
exist
in
parks
and
things
like
that.
Those
are
quite
expensive
in
our
research,
those
go
upwards
of
100
000
dollars
and
that
wouldn't
be
in
the
purview
of
something
we
could
do
with
cdbg
cv
funding.
B
B
J
That's
something
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
a
nissa
to
see
if
that
would
be
part
of
the
if
there
was
potential
for
that,
a
bigger
vision,
infrastructure,
wise
for
the
city-
and
this
would
be
one
element
of
that-
makes
sense.
Also,
I
believe,
center
ithaca.
You
know
in
its
development-
I
wasn't
here
at
the
time,
but
have
been
in
enough
conversations.
J
F
F
Until
center
ithaca
closes
at
around
five
or
six
pm,
there
are
some
people
who
are
banned
from
center
ithaca,
who
cannot
go
in
to
use
the
restrooms,
so
those
exist,
the
warming
or
the
loaves
and
fishes
hospitality
center
at
the
library
will
be
going
on
until
april.
30Th
people
do
have
to
do
a
temperature
check
to
go
in
and
use
the
restrooms,
but
those
are
available
from
nine
to
two
thirty.
F
So
there
are,
you
know,
a
very
limited
number,
but
some
daytime
facilities
available
for
people,
so
it's
really
kind
of
in
off
hours.
That's
again
where
the
staffing
and
the
schedule
becomes
a
problem,
because
you
know
if
the
dpw
were
available,
starting
at
6am
just
to
open
the
restroom
and
dia
could
close
it
at
6
p.m.
That
kind
of
overlaps
with
the
hours
that
the
very
limited
resources
that
are
available
are
open.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
discussion.
I
will
say
that
there
was
one
stakeholder
who
did
an
amazing
amount.
F
Amazing
amount
of
research
into
what
other
cities
have
done
and
models
that
are
out
there
so
for
a
permanent
style
restroom
and
how
to
kind
of
in
a
public
space
make
it
something
that's.
I
know
this
might
sound
strange
but
like
more
of
a
conversation
piece
or
you
know
that
maybe
it
involves
art
installations
or
things
like
that,
these
out
of
the
box
ideas
that
kind
of
generate
community
support
for
a
permanent
structure.
F
H
It
wasn't
that
complicated
so
once
they're
able
to
fully
reopen
that's
another
resource
that
folks
have
in
terms
of
having
a
space
for
for
access
to
bathrooms,
so
you
know
the
it.
I
would
think
that,
and
once
the
library
is
fully
real,
but
again
too,
which
would
be
maybe
later
this
year.
So
you
know
a
port-a-potty
or
some
type
of
system
is
basically
temporary.
C
F
F
I've
tried
to
convey
to
people
that
this
application
is
completely
flexible.
If
you
can,
you
know
you
can
utilize
most
of
the
projects
funding
for
staffing
and
so
on.
It
can
be
for
less
than
amount
of
time
in
a
year
and
so
on.
It's
just
I
mean
again.
I
think
it's
like
I.
I
think
the
issue
is
that
it's
a
community
need,
I
mean
like
in
in
economics
terms.
Public
goods,
you
know,
are
hard
to
provide
right.
F
So
this
is
that
that
kind
of
sense
is
that
it's
the
the
private
market
isn't
isn't
providing
this
and
those
who
might
be
capable
in
the
private
market
have
a
lot
of
hesitations
about
it
right
now.
I
think
you
know,
there's
not
the
level
of
staffing
that
agencies
have
normally
had
they're
really
taxed
with
you
know
just
trying
to
keep
themselves
going
during
the
pandemic.
So
I
I
think
it's
the
idea
of
capacity,
it's
something
new,
something
that
people
don't
have
a
high
level
of
confidence
about,
and
so
on.
F
So
an
answer
to
the
mayor's
earlier
question
would
would
people
perhaps
rather
go
with
the
status
quo?
Nobody
is
saying
that,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
something
that
you
know
in
terms
of
cleanup
people
are
doing
it
right
now
and
they
know
how
to
do
that,
and
maybe
that's
just
where
it's
going
to
be.
F
A
A
B
J
A
B
C
I
I
C
B
I
B
B
C
F
The
project
that
just
for
background
the
home
funds
are
very
restricted.
There's
a
there's,
a
value
cap
and
so
inhs
indicated
to
me
that
they
reviewed
their
waiting
list
and
they
have
about
six
properties
that
are
substantially
below
the
current
home
value
cap
so
that
if
they
did
rehab
it
wouldn't
go
above
them.
F
They
think
they
could
potentially
do
two
to
three
jobs
with
the
home
money,
but
the
reason
that
they
were
requesting
cdbg
is
because
it's
much
more
flexible
in
being
able
to
repair
homes
that
are
assessed
at
a
value
that
exceed
what
the
home
programs
value
cap
is.
So,
if
you
put
more
cdbg
funding
in
that
category,
that's
something
that
they
could.
They
feel
very
confident
they
could
completely
utilize.
B
F
Yes,
okay,
so
cdbg
is
eligible
for
that
too.
I
did
indicate
just
to
point
out
that,
when,
when
a
project
includes
two
funding
streams,
they
have
to
comply
with
both
both
sets
of
regulations
or
the
more
restrictive
of
them,
so
that
can
complicate
projects.
That
was
a
discussion
that
we
had
at
ni,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
there's
money
available,
then
that
that's
a
way
to
fully
fund
it.
B
C
J
I
J
I
B
J
A
B
H
H
We
could
put
the
remaining
17
thousand
eight
fifty
from
cdbg
funds
to
homeowner
rehab
cdbg,
so
increase
that
twenty
five
thousand
right
reduce
the
home
portion
of
home
homeowner
rehab
by
17
850.,
so
project
one
gets
the
same
amount
that
we'd
recommended
the
100
000.
You
know
dollars
and
then
take
that
17850
and
add
that
to
homeowner
duplex,
so
at
least
project
four
is
all
in
home
project
one
remains
split
between
cdbg
and
home,
so
I
nhs
would
have
one
project
with
a
split
funding
versus
two
projects
with
the
split
fund.
A
I
Can
I
raise
one
one
new
question:
yeah
as
it
relates
to
the
state
street
apartments,
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
request.
That
is
a
as
you
mentioned.
You
know,
they're
in
the
low
income,
housing
tax,
credit,
competition
and
they've
already
submitted
in
january.
Expecting
you
know,
award
announcements
on
that
application
cycle
in
late
april,
maybe
may,
and
then
there
will
be
another
cycle
in
in
june
july.
I
I
You
know
help
their
application
reduce
some
of
their
equity
required
and
also
you
know,
if
it's
successful
would
repay
back
to
the
hodag
fund.
It
would
be
secured
by
a
loan
on
the
property.
If
they
were
successful.
If
they
weren't
successful
in
getting
the
award,
then
it
would
just
terminate
at
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
So
that's
just
something
to
consider,
because
it
really
I
was
telling
anissa.
I
think
one
of
the
best
strategies
for
anti-gentrification
is
really
supporting.
I
Low-Income
housing
tax
credit
projects
in
neighborhoods
that
are
experiencing
new
growth
and
the
west
states
recorder
seems
very
much
primed
for
that
yeah
it'd
be
nice
to
bring
in
you
know.
We
have
the
one
that
mama
goose
is
not
going
to
be
affordable,
that
that
project
there
be
nice
to
incorporate
some
affordable
housing
in
in
that
area.
I
So
it's
an
op,
it's
a
it's
an
option.
We
have
it's
not,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
part
of
the
action
plan,
but
it
would
be
a
funding
source
would
be
our
hodag
funding
source
that
has
about
six
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
in
that
fund.
So
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
contingent
loan
would
still
leave
us
with
pretty
good
resources
and
it
would
get
paid
back
in
15
or
17
years.
J
B
H
F
What
I'll
say
about
that
too,
is
that
I
think
a
lot
has
developed
on
the
federal
level,
since
this
project
was
submitted,
that
vaccine
rollout
has
been
accelerated
and
my
impression
of
the
the
application
was
it
was
to
educate
people
in
advance
of
getting
vaccine.
So
there
is
that
timing
issue,
they
wouldn't
be
funded.
Until
I
mean
they,
wouldn't
this
project
wouldn't
be
ready
to
go
ahead
until
in
like
a
month
from
now
and
adults
within
the
us.
You
know
president
biden
has
said
he
expects
can
be
fully
vaccinated
by
me.
A
I
I'm
I'm
ready
to
vote,
but
I
don't
know
if
carl,
if
that
was
a,
is
that
a
satisfactory
answer?
You
feel
okay
voting.
Now,
I'm
sorry!
I
couldn't
quite
hear
you,
mr
mayor.
Sorry,
I
I'm
ready
to
vote
yeah.
I
am
too
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
would
anyone
like
to
move
the
action
plan
as
amended
at
this
morning's
meeting,
moved
by
eric,
say
a
second?