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A
A
Any
changes
to
the
our
agenda,
as
you
can
see
it's
really
just
going
through
and
talking
about
the
funding
for
the
the
various
projects.
A
C
A
A
2021
action
plan
tracy
before
you
came
in,
I
asked
the
question:
if
we
you
know,
we
just
want
to
start
it
project
one
and
go
right
down
through
and
I'm
going
to
be
switching
screens.
So
I'll
ask
if
you
have
something
to
say
so
I'll
be
looking
at
the
the
spreadsheet
that
nils
and
anisa
sent
out
to
us.
So
if
anyone
has
anything
to
say,
I
won't
be
able
to
see
you.
A
So
if
you
could
just
you
know
just
say
you
know
what
it
is
you
you
have
to
say.
B
Okay,
okay,
is
it
helpful
if
I,
if
I
also
share
the
the
spreadsheet,
do
you
want
to
fill
it
in
as
we
talk.
A
B
Can
you
see,
can
you
see
my
screenshot
right
now?
Yes,
okay,.
A
Okay,
so
the
first
well,
the
first
item
we
have,
which
was
already
passed,
which
is
the
110
auburn
street,
the
homeownership
project,
and
so
one
of
the
things
to
decide
is
the
project
is
eligible
for
funds
from
either
cdbg
or
home.
A
We
could
split
it.
We
could
put
it
all
in
one
category,
the
other.
What
I
did
was
I
I
split
it
evenly
between
cdbg
and
home.
You
know
fifteen
thousand
dollars
each
which.
C
B
A
B
So
inhs
has
requested
a
reduction
in
the
amount
provided
so
they'd
like
to
go
with
twenty
four
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
instead,
so
we
have
five
thousand
dollars
more
to
work
with
in
the
in
their
in
the
action
plan,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
they've
sent
a
letter
and
the
compliance
that's
required
at
the
30,
000
and
above
level
would
put
the
additional
cost
of
those
compliance
measures
outside
the
bounds
of
what
they
could
afford,
like
they'd
have
to
replace
all
the
windows
with
vinyl
windows
and
they
had
planned
on
restoring
the
windows
and
encapsulating
the
lead.
B
So
so
we
have
five
thousand
dollars
additionally
to
use.
This
also
is
a
choto
set
aside
eligible
project,
so
home
funds
need
to
be
used
for
a
choto
project.
So
just
just
letting
you
know,
we
have
to
use
15
of
our
home
budget
for
chodo
projects
or
set
aside
funding
for
that.
B
Well,
there
are
other
eligible
projects,
such
as
number
four,
but
I
mean
I
think
that
is
a
way
to
to
go
about
it.
We
could
also,
I
could
not
consider
the
scenario
of
using
some
cdbg
funds,
since
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
lower
amount.
Thirty
thousand
dollars.
I
think
it
might
be
more
manageable
for
them
to
just
have
one
funding
stream.
A
B
Yeah
there
are
both
programs,
it's
unfortunate
that
cdbg
and
home
programs
have
different
reporting
requirements.
They
don't
actually
match
up,
and
actually
so
cdbg
could
be
used
for
this
because
it
is
a
rehab
project.
B
But
again
I
I
think
it
does
make
it
complicated
in
the
smaller
projects
to
have
to
report
for
two,
but
nails
could
feel
differently.
So
ultimately
I
mean
we
can
still
move
it
around
later,
but-
and
I
don't
mean
to
like
get
overly
into
how
you
want
to
do
things.
I
just
wanted
to
point
a
few
of
those
things
out.
B
D
A
D
E
B
So,
just
I
I
don't
know
if
I
was
clear
but
yeah
as
long
as
we
use
fifteen
percent
in
the
churro
project.
I
that's.
The
minimum
are.
A
A
Sorry
going
kind
of
slow
here,
but
I'm
jumping
back
and
forth
between
you
know
my
screen
and
entering
numbers.
Okay,
let's.
A
And
inhs
is
our
only
right.
D
B
So,
as
you
know,
and
as
was
discussed
by
you
at
an
earlier
meeting,
inhs
has
requested
all
cdbg
for
project
number
one
homeowner
rehab,
and
you
might
recall
that
in
past
years
we've
funded
them
from
both
categories,
cdbg
and
home,
because
it's
often
hard
to
you
know
you're
always
doing
this
calculation
trying
to
you
know
make
all
the
projects
work
so
just
to
be
triple
sure.
I
did
reach
out
to
them
to
ask
you
know
because
there's
there's
so
many
requests
in
the
cdbg
category
this
year.
B
If
they
were
awarded
any
home
funding,
could
they
make
that
work
or
did
you
know?
Would
they
if
there
was
a
scenario
where
they
had
to
accept
reduced
funding
altogether,
because
it
was
only
cdbg?
Would
they
prefer
that
or
could
they
make
some
home
funding
work
as
well
and
what
they
said
is
so
again,
I
think
for
them,
as
was
described
in
the
public
hearing.
B
There
is
a
cap
that
home
imposes
so
that
when
a
project
is
rehabbed,
if
the
value
goes
over
a
certain
amount
with
the
rehab,
that's
no
that's
not
allowable
under
home,
and
the
post
rehab
value.
Laura
lee
got
back
to
me
is
two
hundred
and
four
thousand
dollars,
so
that's
pretty
low
in
our
market.
They
looked
at
their
wait
list
which
has
39
homeowners
in
the
city
of
ithaca
on
the
waitlist
for
rehab,
and
they
saw
that
up.
They
think
about.
B
Seven
of
them
have
homes
that
are
currently
far
below
or
significantly
below
is
what
they
said:
204
thousand
dollars
so
that
with
the
rehab
they
think
at
least
three
of
them
will
not
go
over
the
204
000
cap
and
additionally,
each
year
home
adjusts
the
cap.
So
the
cap
might
go
up
a
little
bit
in
2022,
so
they
have
seven
homes
that
are
below
that
are
currently
below
the
post
rehab
cap.
B
They
think
they
could
do
two
to
three
projects,
possibly
with
home
funding.
B
So,
as
you
might
also
realize
that
I
don't
know
what
their
current
process
for
working
through
the
wait
list
is,
if
it's
just
simply
like
they
take
whoever's
at
the
top
of
the
list.
If
they
have
cdbg
funding,
only
they
can
just
work
their
way
down
the
list.
You
know
kind
of
one
at
a
time,
but
when
they
have
both,
if
they
have
home
funding
that
they
need
to
use
too,
they
can
only
use
that
for
certain
homes,
a
small
number
up
to
seven
homes.
B
So
I
I
can't
speak
authoritatively
to
what
their
what
their
process
is
with
the
wait
list,
I'm
just
assuming
that
they
try
to
go.
You
know
from
the
oldest
request
that
hasn't
been
fulfilled
down,
but
so
the
long
story
short
it
would
be
easier
for
them
to
work
with
cdbg.
That
would
be
their
preference,
but
they
can
also
accept
home
funding
and
try
to
do
you
know
at
least
two
homes
with
that.
E
Would
it
be
easier
before
we
start
to
break
up
projects
for
for
two
funding
sources
to
go
through
and
see
how
much
we
can
do
with
home
with
the
projects
we
want
to
do
and
then
see
if
some
are
too
much.
C
A
Cert
and
tracy
you're,
suggesting
that
we
do
that
just
for
the
the
home,
the
housing.
Why.
E
A
A
A
All
right,
so
I
had
initially
split
project,
one,
the
homeowner
rehab
between
cdbg
and
home,
with
the
majority
of
funds
being
in
the
home
category.
I
also
didn't
given
the
the
limited
amount
of
funds,
I
had
not
funded
that
one
completely.
You
know
at
the
full
125
I
had
funded
it
at
100
000,
with
15
000
in
cdbg
and
85
000
at.
E
A
Yeah-
and
you
know
again,
I
didn't
fund
everything.
Let
me
step
back
for
a
minute.
Okay,
the
projects
I
funded
fully
were
the
110
auburn
street,
which
of
course,
has
now
been
reduced
by
you
know:
five
thousand
dollars
number
five
housing
scholarship
program
and
numbers
well
number,
six
security,
deposit
assistance;
now
that's
kind
of
where
the
asterisk
itself,
I
only
I
did
not
fund
the
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
because
again
because
of
the
the
limited
funding
for
cdbg,
but
I
did
fund
security
deposit
at
74,
000.
E
E
B
So
I
have
the
full
amount:
75
600
in
housing
scholarship,
seventy
four
thousand
in
security
deposits.
F
B
Yes
and
then
you
had
a
hundred
thousand
in
hawana
rehab
for
home.
A
There
any
others
so
we're
just
talking
about
home
for
now,
so
the
the
funding
category,
not
the.
C
E
Would
it
be
better
than
to
put
home
the
one
that
you
split
just
all
in
in
home,
a
homeowner?
That's.
B
That's
the
the
the
issue
there
is
it
inhs
requested.
E
A
You
know,
look
there's
one
thing.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind,
though,
if
we
go
down
to
the
bottom,
that
there's
administrative
funds
that
have
been
taken
out
of
home
so
actually
we're
over
in
the
home
country.
A
Right
and
that
would
seem
to
work
that
you're
talking
about
the
flexibility
or
the,
what
neighborhood
housing
will
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
deal
with
the
mix
of
projects
they
have.
E
The
other
thing
I
wondered
about
is
the
housing
scholarship
program,
because
that
is
also
her
unit,
so
to
speak,
it's
scalable,
oh.
B
I
do
have
one
update
about
that
questions
that
the
reviewers
had
asked
last
month
was:
where
were
they
in
their
spend
down?
Yes,
so
they
have
submitted
some
reimbursement
requests
recently
about
five
thousand
dollars
per
month
for
the
rents
that
they're
paying
they
submitted
in
march.
So
at
that
rate
they
have
about
thirty.
Five
thousand
dollars
left
to
spend.
So
in
seven
months
by
october,
which
is
usually
when
this,
when
the
new
program
years
funding
becomes
available,
they
would
have
spent
down
all
of
their
remaining
funds.
E
B
E
E
A
A
Yeah
unfortunate
and-
and
it
is,
you
know,
affordable
housing.
E
It
also
seemed
when
they
came
to
the
when
they
came
to
talk
about
it,
that
they
didn't
have
some
other
funding,
that
they
thought
they
were
going
to
have
lined
up
for
their
special
needs
apartments,
and
they
were
con
somewhat
concerned
about
that.
They
were
going
to
be
looking
for
money,
and
then
they
are
looking
they're
looking
for
quite
a
bit
of
more
money,
still.
A
B
Yes,
they
didn't
get
the
eshai
funding.
That's
that's
the
supportive
housing
money
that
tracy
was
talking
about.
A
F
A
E
A
A
E
A
A
A
E
Cdbg,
that
sounds
good,
so
do
you
want
to
do
other
people
agree
with
putting
the
33
475
full
amount
requested
for
the
repair,
the
miner
rep.
I
call
it
the
mini
repair
program.
Sorry,
oh.
E
D
E
A
A
You
know
what
I
my
reasoning
was
that
it's
such
a
relatively
small
amount
that
they
should
hopefully
be
able
to
find
other
funding
for
that
in
donations,
for
example,
or
just
some
internal
shifts.
So
that's
why
I
thought
it
was.
If
we
funded
the
majority,
which
is
really
for
the
deposits
they
could.
Catholic
charities
define
the
the
2500,
but.
B
So
part
of
the
reason
that
they
requested
this
funding
is
they
normally
in
most
years
they
get
no
funds
to
deliver
the
program
but
they're
working
with
oar
again
this
year
and
still
working
with
housing
for
school
success,
which
sometimes
those
you
know
working
around
the
various
accommodations
that
they're
trying
to
make
for
the
folks
that
are
receiving
those
security
deposits
is
a
higher
level
of
administrative
work
for
them.
So
that's
that's.
Why
they've
requested
that
funding?
You
know
they
they
aren't.
B
E
A
A
Though
again
it
looks
like
home
is,
is
okay
or
it's
not
okay,
it
is
zeroed
out.
I
mean
we've
used
those
funds
so
yeah.
We
seem
to
be
in
agreement
with
that.
The
home
categories-
yeah,
okay,
the
next
category
is
economic
development
and
the
ed
committee
meets
next
week.
Let's
see.
B
Can
I
interject
I'm
sorry
this
year,
ed
has
said
that
they're
very
interested
in
what
ni
is
recommending,
also
for
the
ed
program
and
while
I'm
talking
I'll
say
that
we've
done
the
analysis.
The
preliminary
analysis
for
each
of
the
three
job
training
programs
for
their
community-based
development
organization
certification,
that's
the
status
that
they
have
to
have
to
operate
a
job
training
program.
B
It
seems
that
all
all
three
of
these
organizations
finger
lakes,
reuse,
historic,
ithaca
and
giac-
will
meet
the
certification
this
year.
We'll
talk
more
about
that
in
my
staff
report,
but
just
to
let
you
know
that
they
all
have
their
documentation
in
and
should
be
able
to
go
forward.
B
A
So,
what's
one
of
the,
what
would
you
like
to
say
what
your
recommendations
were,
or
I
could
go
through
in
mind
where
again
you
let
me
know
I
don't
want
to
you,
know
hog
hog,
all
the
time.
A
A
E
A
Okay-
and
I
like
those
two
and
actually
I
did
reduce
them
so
reuse-
I
had
just
put
in
the
funding
for
the
stipends
eighty
six
thousand
dollars
and
again
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
a
comment
on
you
know
the
other
categories,
the
which
are
basically
staff
salaries,
but
just
the
the
limits
of
the
funding-
and
I
thought
the
stipends
was-
were
very
important.
E
A
Right
and
you
know
that's
a
good
question
for
anissa,
my
my
assumption
is
that
staff
do
that,
but
I
should
probably
ask
rather
than
assume
so
is
that
something
that
you
do
anissa.
B
Usually
well
it
if
you
make
it
explicit,
I
do
so
I
will
or
if
there
seems
to
be
some
sort
of
other
information
that
I
have,
but
I
will
explicitly
reach
out
to
each
of
these
programs
to
ask.
Usually
we
work
from
what
they've
said
in
their
public
hearing
comments.
B
A
Yeah,
I
would
think,
given
us
the
majority
of
the
funding
they
requested,
that
they
would
not
turn
it
down.
Okay,
so
I
said
I
had
86
000
for
project
seven
reuse,
job
training,.
A
E
F
A
Okay
and
when
I
had
initially
gone
through
this,
I
had
actually
found
some
funding
for
ithaca's
books.
Now
I
know
that
when
we
had
gone
through
at
one
of
our
earlier
meetings
forget
which
meeting
date
it
was,
there
was
not
a
lot
of
support
for
this
program,
given
the
level
of
funding
available
to
us,
but
I
did
have
some
remaining
cdbg
funds,
and
so
I
put
in
it's
an
odd
amount,
but
it
was
thirteen
thousand
three
hundred
thirty
three
dollars
and
six
cents,
which
is
the
remainder
I
had
in
cdbg.
A
E
I
I
just
want
to
add
that
carl
and
I
listen
to
the
presentation
by
them
and
I
was
interested
in
it.
I
thought
they
were
really
thinking
things
through
about
how
they're
going
to
keep
operating
and
stuff,
and
I
I
is
that
what
you're
thinking
too
carl
that.
A
It
was
a
yeah,
it
was
a
really
good
presentation
and-
and
I
can't
remember
the
the
store
manager's
name,
but
she
had
actually
even
looked
at
the
youtube
recording
for
the
ed
committee
and
to
see
what
questions
that
you
know.
The
committee
had
come
up
with
when
they
were
discussing
this
project,
but
it
does
sound
like
they
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
it,
and
they're
really
committed
to
working
with
marginalized
community
or
underrepresented
communities.
A
You
know
within
that
that
that
that
space
and
she
also
said
that
they
are
going
to
go
through
with
this
project.
If,
even
if
we
don't
fund
it,
it's
something
they're
committed
to.
E
E
Right
and
I
I
also
was
impressed
that
she
spent
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
how
independent
bookstores
are
surviving
and
do
we
want
to
say,
thriving,
and
it's
not
just
on
book
sales.
They
have
to
have
a
lot
of
other
components.
A
A
But
again
you
know,
as
we
go
down
through
the
categories
we'll
see
and
you'll
note
that
the
economic
development
loan
fund,
the
cdbg-
oh
goodness,
let's
remember
what
pi
stands
for
escape
media.
A
Income,
yes,
thank
you
all
that
is
going
for
the
the
loan
fund,
so
we
did
not
have
those
funds
available
to
us
for
this
category.
E
Well,
we
do
sort
of,
but
I'd
rather
not
use
them.
It's.
I
think
it's
good
to
keep
those
in
in
the
loan
fund
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
come
in.
B
It's
ithaca
is
books
might,
but
they
have
determined
they
cannot
they
financially.
They
do
not
want
to
take
on
any
further
loans.
A
Right
and
and
yeah,
I
would
think
that
they
from
that
presentation
seems
like
their
their
margins
are
really
thin
and
so
yeah.
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
for
them
so
again:
86
000
for
reuse,
67.5,
full
funding
for
work,
reserve,
92,
000
for
http
and
then
13
000
for
ithaca's
books,
but
on
reuse,
work,
reserve,
hospitality,
employment,
any
other
suggestions.
A
The
public
gardens
the
great
neighborhood
essential
resource.
That
was
a
tough
one.
I
am,
I
funded
everything,
but
the
landscaping.
So
the
landscaping
and
my
thinking
on
that
was
it's
an
important
community
resource.
A
The
funds
that
they're
requesting
are
for
needed
amenities,
except
I
thought
that
the
landscaping
was
something
that
does
not
directly
affect
the
working
of
the
garden
or
the.
You
know
it's
something
that
I
think
could
be
put
off,
whereas
the
other
items
seem
to
be
more
necessary
so
that
I
put
in
fifty
three
thousand
ten
dollars.
E
Carl,
I
can't
find
my
notes
that
I
took
on
their
presentation,
but
they
they
said
didn't
they,
which
were
the
most
specific
things
they
needed.
I
think.
B
So
they
go
back
and
said
that
so
they
provided
a
chart
which
I'm
going
to
try
to
show
you
if
you
would
like
to
see
it
about
their
priorities
and
how
they
could
be
modified.
Would
you
like
to
see
that
or
would
you
like
me
to
just
speak
about
it
verbally.
B
They
requested
twelve
thousand
dollars
for
that,
and
they
feel
that
that
that
is
a
necessary
ask
because
it
falls
outside
of
what
park
grove
and
cmc
have
offered
to
take
on.
So
they
would
like
to
keep
that
in
the
raised
beds.
They
said
that
they
could
reduce
those
they
requested
20
at
500
each,
so
they
could
reduce
them
to
10
at
500,
each
being
5000,
so
stone
dust
is
twelve
thousand
raised.
Beds
could
go
down
to
five
thousand
the
entry
gates
and
footer
and
installation
is
nine
thousand
ten
dollars.
B
A
B
Oh
interesting,
so
she
said
what
what
she
said
in
the
in
her
comment
was.
This
was
added
to
to
our
cost,
to
make
the
entry
gates
a
complete
project.
We
previously
planned
to
have
this
work
done
by
park.
Grove
cmc,
so
I
guess
I
interpreted
that
as
saying
that
they
were.
They
shifted
three
thousand
dollars
into
that
category,
but
I
can
clarify
that
with
her.
B
B
And
also
landscaping
for
child
safety
and
sound
attenuation.
They
said
they
could
could
potentially
reduce
the
cost
by
using
volunteer
labor
interior
interior
privacy,
fencing
they
could
potentially
reduce
the
cost
by
using
volunteer
labor
or
if
bids
come
in
low
enough,
have
the
work
done
by
park.
Grove
water
fountains.
They
are
removing
from
the
grant
proposal,
because
park
grove
will
will
do
that
for
them.
B
You
know:
they've
tried
to
scale
back
some
things,
the
the
raised
beds
for
one,
and
then
they
don't
need
the
water
fountain
and
essentially,
they
left
left
privacy,
fencing
in
at
9
000
landscaping
for
child
safety
and
at
10
000
entry
gate
at
5,
200
entry,
gate
footer
in
installation
at
9000,
10
and
stone
dust
in
at
12,
000.
B
Safety
when
they
discussed
it
in
the
the
application,
I
understood
it
to
be.
I
I
wasn't
clear
necessarily
on
what
the
safety
portion
was.
The
sound
attenuation
has
to
do
with
putting
up
acoustical
blanket
type
things
on
the
fences,
because
they're
close
to
noise
like
the
highway
and
the
railroad,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
what
the
safety
feature
is.
A
I
had
just
cut
the
landscaping
because
again,
oh
you
know
just
said
general
and
landscaping,
but
you
know
if
they
include
child
safety.
What
makes
it
seems
to
make
it
a
little
more
important.
A
E
B
Yeah,
we
want
to
add
landscaping
in
two
areas.
First,
we
wish
to
plant
raspberry
cans
along
the
railroad
tracks
outside
the
garden
fence
and
adjacent
to
the
child's
the
children's
playground.
These
were
added
to
our
design.
To
address
planning
board
concerns
about
child
safety.
They
will
also
provide
a
source
of
nutritious
and
delicious
food
and
an
opportunity
for
nature
connection.
B
Second,
we
are
changing
our
approach
to
adding
addressing
the
noise
problems
where
the
gardens
are
being
extended
to
into
the
space
between
bmw
and
route
13
near
the
third
street
intersection
instead
of
the
expensive
and
unattractive
and
attractive
acoustical
fence.
We
proposed
last
year,
we'd
like
to
add,
dense
plantings
between
the
gardens
and
the
intersection
to
create
and
attract
a
pollinator-friendly
buffer
that
would
reduce
noise,
so
they're
talking
about
raspberry
canes
in
the
child
playground
area.
It's
not
super
clear
to
me
how
that
addresses
child
safety.
D
Planning
board
had
the
concerns,
so
they're
kind
of
stuck
because
they're
trying
to
do
what
the
planning
board
wants
and
then
we're
like.
Well,
we
don't
have
money
for
that
thing,
so
they're
just
like
well,
we
only
want
it
because
the
planning
board
made
us
do
something
like
that.
So
so
I
don't
know
well
I
I
I
I'm
reading
anyway.
A
Well,
I
reduced
it
by
ten
thousand
just,
but
if
I
may
anise,
you
said
according
to
them,
their
priorities
are
ten
thousand
for
the
landscaping
5200
for
the
entry
gate,
9
000
for
the
concrete
footers
and
framing
for
that
gate.
So,
in
other
words
the
labor
for
the
gate.
B
Yes,
however,
one
thing
I
will
say
that
I'm
concerned
about
we've
talked
about
this
with
with
ithaca
community
gardens.
We
talked
about
it
last
year
that
anything
that
involves
installation
or
construction
is
subject
to
davis
bacon
and
that's
anything
over
two
thousand
dollars
so
and
davis
bacon
is
also
complicated
when
it
comes
to
using
volunteer
labor
that
you
cannot
use
people
who
are
professionals
in
construction
as
volunteers.
B
So
I
know
this
might
seem
like
getting
into
the
weeds
a
bit,
but
I
I
know
that
they're
cognizant
of
needing
to
make
allowances
for
davis
bacon
wage
rates.
In
their
estimates,
I
will
say
that
it's
a
complicated
thing
to
work
with.
B
And
it's
just
something
to
be
aware
of:
it
says
nine
thousand
dollars
there.
B
So
I'm
just
pointing
it
out:
it's
not
that
they
can't
do
it.
It's
just
that
the
construction
pieces
will
be
subject
to
davis
bacon,
possibly
not
the
raised
beds,
because
I,
I
think
that
though
it
just
seems
like
raised
beds,
is
more
of
an
assembly
type
thing
than
maybe
construction.
I
could
be
totally
wrong
about
that,
but
definitely
the
footer
entry
gate,
footer
and
installation
is
going
to
be
considered
a
davis
bacon.
B
It
has
to
do
with
both
it's
like
it's
a
very
low
threshold.
It
has
to
do
with
any
kind
of
construction,
and
the
threshold
is
two
thousand
dollars
worth
of
construction,
it's
extremely
low.
So
once
you
have
two
thousand
dollars
where
the
construction
as
the
entry
gates
would
require.
Now
it
becomes
a
davis
bacon
activity.
B
So
you
have
to
use
prevailing
wage,
which
usually
adds
about,
can
add
up
to
a
third
to
the
cost
and
there's
a
lot
of
compliance
required
around
it.
So
if
they
use
a-
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
back
but
downtown
ithaca
child
care
center,
they
needed
some
construction
done
and
they
used
a
sole
proprietor
who
did
the
construction
himself
and
that
you
can
do
that?
Sole
proprietors
are
not
subject
to
davis
bacon,
so
if
they
find
one,
they
could
do
it
that
way
for
them.
E
Okay,
well,
let's
just
get
a
number
in
here
for
now
and
then
see
how
it
goes
with
everything
else.
B
Sure-
and
I
I
guess
what
I
was
also
trying
to
say
to
me
raised
beds-
are
a
lot-
require
a
expertise
level,
that's
lower
than
installing
concrete
footing
for
a
fence
or
even
installing
a
fence.
So
I
think
that
the
raised
beds
are
something
that
could
I'm
assuming
that
a
lot
of
their
gardeners
could
probably
work
together
to
to
create
those
than
they
would
be
able
to
do
to
install.
F
D
C
C
A
Okay,
the
urban
bus
stop
upgrades
and
this
is
scalable.
You
know
we
asked
that
question
at
the
the
presentation
and
it
is
so
they're
discreet
units.
So
it's
all
you
know
solar
panel
kits
and
it's
the
same
kit
for
each
bus,
stop
they're
all
in
the
city
and
the
installation
will
be
done
internally.
You
know
by
their
staff,
so
this
could
be
scaled.
A
I
did
put
in
the
full
19
950
because
they
indicated
that
it's
a
safety
concern
for
the
the
passengers
you
know
waiting,
but
also
for
the
drivers.
It
enables
them
to
see
ahead
of
time.
You
know
before
they
get
close
to
the
stop.
If
there's
someone
waiting,
so
it
makes
it
much
better
for
the
the
drivers
too,
to
know
someone's
at
the
stop.
E
C
A
Billing
us
was
was
not
good,
but
hopefully
they
learn
from
that
yeah,
the
next
one
gx
gym
renovation.
Of
course
this
is
a
huge
one.
I
put
in
a
hundred
thousand.
E
And
are
they,
what
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
do
if
we
put
in
a
hundred
thousand?
Is
there
something
that
can
happen
within
this
funding
cycle
without
the
rest
of
the
money.
B
One
thing
I'll
say,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
all
of
you
who
have
passed
been
on
common
council
may
be
interested
in
this,
but
there
was
an
item
on
the
consent
agenda
of
common
council
on
wednesday
that
increased
that
city
administration
had
brought
forward.
Let
me
let
me
get
to
that
resolution
about
the
jack
gem.
B
B
To
I
mean
there
are
several
other
too,
whereas
giac
received
formal
ski
schematic
designs
with
all
with
alternates
and
related
estimates
for
the
renovation
portion
of
the
project,
totaling
3.5
million,
and
whereas
this
past
year
the
difficulties
brought
on
by
the
coronavirus,
especially
around
distancing
and
having
space
for
program
participants,
highlighted
the
importance
of
having
this
facility
available
for
programming,
whereas
gc
has
been
fundraising
and
is
ready
to
move
this
renovation
project
forward
and
whereas
common
council
is
desirous
of
progressing
this
reimbursement
project.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved.
B
The
common
council
here
by
amends
capital
project,
864
jack,
gym
renovation
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
three
thousand
three
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
project,
authorization
of
three
million
seven
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
the
purposes
of
designing
and
constructing
such
improvements.
They're
descending.
B
E
Yes,
we
think.
Okay,
I
mean
we
could
put
in
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
too.
That's
fine,
but
it
sounds
like
they
really
took
it
seriously.
I
mean
we
heard
that
original
resolution
that
the
whole
thing
was
290
thousand
dollars,
uh-huh
or
3.5
million.
A
B
I
mean
so
my
question
is
really
that
I
think
a
lot
of
times
cdbg
funding
is
is
used
for
public
facilities
is
requested
to
help
fill
that
amount.
I
mean
they
will
be
issuing
bonds,
but
I
mean
normally,
they
still
request
cdbg
funding
for
it.
So
I
I
don't
I
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
this,
but
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
other
information
about
what
all
that
means.
E
A
Yeah,
I
I
agree
with
that:
leave
the
100
000
there
and-
and
it
may
become
available-
wants
to
get
more
information.
B
A
And
it's
important
because
we
move
to
the
next
project
project
17,
which
is
st
john's,
the
largest
shelter
in
the
expanded,
permanent,
supportive
housing,
and
this
is
a
project
where
they
are
in
negotiation,
with
a
local
hotel
to
take
it
over
as
the
shelter
and
permanent
supportive
housing
and
that's
a
huge
project
and
just
our
part
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
put
in
zero
for
this.
For
this
ask.
A
E
That
project,
I
didn't
feel
comfortable
with
us
committing
money
to
it
right
now.
I
also
know
that
we're
going
to
get
more
home
funds
through
the
city
and
maybe
things
will
be
better
aligned
at
that
point
for
a
project
like
this,
but
I
no,
I
I
had
a
lot.
D
Of
question,
because
I
wasn't
at
the
public
hearing-
I
wasn't
sure
if
they
were
being
sort
of
cagey
because
they're
trying
to
do
this
deal
and
they
don't
want
to.
If
they
tell
too
much
information,
someone
else
will
buy
the
hotel.
Your
sense
was
actually
that
they
just
don't
have
their
ducks
in
a
row.
D
E
A
E
E
I
s
and
we
didn't
really
get
into
the
the
parts
about
how
it's
going
to
be
staffed,
or
there
was
some
discussion
about
how
floors
would
be
designated
for
different
populations,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
still
so.
D
F
A
B
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
tracy
mentioned
that
the
city
will
be
getting
home
funding.
That
will
be
a
specific
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
hybrid
home
approach.
Hud
is
calling
it
through
the
american
rescue
plan,
and
that
was
just
confirmed
yesterday
by
our
hud
rep
will
be
getting
about
1.2
million
dollars
targeted
towards
homeless
housing.
This
is
a
unusual
because
home
funding
is
usually
you
know,
kind
of
it's
not.
B
It
can't
be
used
for
sheltering,
but
I
think
they're
going
to
be
making
a
pathway
they're,
calling
it
a
hybrid
approach
and
they're
letting
grantees
know
us
know
that
that
program
is
still
in
development
and
details
are
going
to
be
forthcoming,
so
they've.
Let
us
know
that
we'll
receive
an
allocation
of
over
a
million
dollars,
but
how
that
funding
can
be
used.
B
Those
details
will
be
forthcoming
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months.
E
The
question
I
have
with
this
project
too,
I
mean
this
is
a
big
increase
in
shelter
and
it's
also
an
increase
in
permanent
supportive
housing,
which
it
only
means
you
can
have
a
microwave
and
a
little
tiny
refrigerator
in
your
room,
which
doesn't
seem
that
much
about
permanent
to
me.
But
anyway,
the
lakeview
mental
health
building
is
quite
large
and
I
know
they
plan
to
house
more
than
their
current
customers.
E
B
Yeah,
that
was
my
understanding
is
that,
if
I'm
recalling
correctly,
which
off
the
top
of
my
head,
what
I
recall
is
that
there
are
about
50
units
in
that
building,
so
25
would
be
for
formerly
homeless
people
and
25
for
the
population
that
lakeview
currently
serves.
Although
now
that
I'm
saying
these
numbers
allowed,
I
I
I
would
want
to
check
on
that.
It's
been
a
few
years
since
we've
talked
about
the
lakeview
project,
but
yeah.
I
think
that
they
had
a
different.
B
I
mean
they
had
a
much
more
well-defined
approach
to
what
their
apartments
would
be
looking
like,
and
it
seemed
to
me
in
the
st
jones
community
services
discussion
that
they,
they
hadn't
quite
gotten
to
that
point
in
their
planning
to
understand
how
they
would
be
using
those
rooms
if
they
would
be
just
for
one
person
in
permanent,
supportive
housing.
How
many
of
the
rooms
would
be
permanent,
supportive
housing
versus
shelter?
B
They
said
that
people
in
permanent
supportive
housing
would
have
access
to
the
fuller
kitchen
that
currently
exists
in
the
hotel
that
they're
looking
at,
but
they
didn't
have
more
detail
than
that.
So
when
we
saw
the
lakeview
project
when
that
came
forward,
they
had
more
detail
to
how
the
how
the
units
were
going
to
be
looking
and
what
would
be
included
in
each
unit.
E
B
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
I
I
will
make
a
note
to
review
those
plans
and
get
back
to
you
with
how
many
units-
or
I
can
even
look
online
right
now,
while
you're
talking.
A
Okay,
well,
while
we're
doing
that,
let's
go
on
to
public
services,
so
I
had
funded
each
of
these
four
at
the
full
amount
that
they're
asking.
F
C
A
A
And
then
whoops,
where
are
we
here?
Oh
the
the
cdbg
covet
relief
funds,
so
so
the
one
that
the
first
one
number
19
the
health
and
wellness
yeah.
That
was
a
tough
one.
A
I
what
I
tried
to
fund
well
what
I
try
to
keep
in
mind.
You
remember
at
our
last
meeting
anissa
mentioned
that
the
purchase
of
the
equipment
was
not
really
fundable,
so
the
generator
the
van
and
I
think
it's
fernando
suggested
they
look
into
ithaca
car
share,
perhaps
for
the
van.
A
A
So
then
I
had
funded
looking
at
their
list,
the
supplies
for
actually
making
the
the
smoothies
the
cups,
the
straws,
utensils,
the
hand
sanitizer
gloves,
masks
the
uniforms
and
then
the
stipends,
so
the
things
that
they're
actually
need
for
the
young
people
to
to
do
the
work.
So
that
came
to
sixteen
thousand
four
hundred.
B
Think
I
do
also
I
want
to
let
you
know
that,
like
you,
mental
health
building
has
60
units
in
it
tracing.
B
So,
as
carl
has
already
said
about
the
smoothies,
the
van
is
ineligible
and
all
of
the
equipment
would
need
to
be
leased,
it
can't
be
purchased,
and
this
is
a
kind
of
a
detail,
but
in
terms
of
how
to
calculate
the
benefit
series
last
time
we
met,
you
all
had
suggested
that
this,
the
youth
stipends,
could
be
viewed.
B
You
had
asked
me
to
understand
whether
the
youth
stipends
could
be
viewed
like
reuses
stipends
are
are
viewed,
as
you
know,
job
training
and
therefore
the
person
receiving
the
the
stipend
is
the
beneficiary
I
reached
out
to
hud,
and
in
this
case
no
this
is
a
public
service
and
the
stipends
are
considered
the
staff
cost.
That
goes
with
the
public
service,
which
is
fine,
it's
eligible,
but
we
have
to
calculate
the
beneficiaries
according
to
we
have
to
ensure
that
there
is
low
to
moderate
income
benefit
to
the
service
of
the
smoothies.
B
So
nelson,
I
talked
about
that,
and
I've
looked
at
the
block
groups
where
they're,
where
they're
going
to
be
having
their
smoothie
stands.
Definitely
the
one
of
them
is
far
above
51.
That's
the
one
near
dss,
the
one
in
north
side
just
makes
51
and
the
block
group
in
west
village
does
not
meet
51
percent,
because
that
block
group
is
very
large
and
includes
a
lot
of
west
hill.
B
However,
we
believe
that
we
could
use
the
city-wide
lmi
test
and
the
city
has
over
66
lmi
people
and
it
seems
like
even
though
they're
centered
in
these
neighborhoods
they
would
be
available
for
anybody.
That's
wants
to
approach
the
stand
so
is
again.
B
This
is
seems
like
it's
a
bit
in
the
weeds
for
what
you're
asking,
but
the
stipends
would
be
a
staff
cost,
so
the
youth
receiving
them,
even
if
they're
from
you
know,
even
if
they're
lmi
youth,
it's
not
considered
a
job
training
project,
it's
considered
a
job
for
them,
and
so
the
benefit
is
really
an
area-wide
benefit,
but
it
is
eligible
to
pay
for
that.
Those
stipends
all
the
ppe
that
carl
mentioned
and
the
other
items
carl
were
there.
Did
you
add
other
items
in
besides
the
ppe
and
the
stipends?
A
Yeah
cups,
straws
utensils.
B
Under
this
all
of
those
that
those
are
materials
they're,
not
equipment,
so
they're
able
to
be
used
able
to
be
reimbursed
for.
A
E
We
did
ask
about
who
they
were
planning
to
hire
for
youth,
and
it
was
up
to
20
teens
during
the
summer
20
hours
per
week
per
teen
four
to
four
hours
per
day.
Five
days
a
week
is
what
they
were
looking
at.
A
Yeah
all
right
number
20
the
advocacy
center,
the
subdivision
of
their
office
at
we
had
at
one
of
our
earlier
meetings
has
said
we
were
going
to
increase
that
to
round
it
up
to
6
000,
just
in
case
of
any
overage,
but
at
the
iura
meeting
heather.
Their
ed
indicated
that
they
were
pretty
firm
on
the
cost
that
they
thought
that
the
5720
was
accurate.
So
I
I
just
put
in
the
5720.
A
Okay
project
21
was
the
the
farmer's
market,
the
online
discounts
for
snap
customers.
We
at
an
initial
meeting
had
not
funded
that
I
did
put
in
some
funding
and
again
it
was.
I
had
some
some
remaining
cdbg
money
and
didn't
want
to
support
it,
so
it
was
a
little
under
ten
thousand
dollars.
E
A
A
Oh,
you
know,
maybe
it
was,
it
might
have
been
a
maybe
because
I
noted
that
we
had
questions
on
how
snap
would
work
online
yeah
how
the
funds
would
be
used.
It
seemed
to
be
most
of
the
questions
were
about
how
the
funds
would
be
used.
E
F
Happen,
this
is
not
directly
related
to
snap
users,
but
I
I
just
speak
with
a
vendor
from
the
just
happened
to
run
into
them
from
the
farmer's
market
and
they're
good
things
to
say
about
the
online
sales,
people
were
pre-ordering
and
ordering
remotely
and
how
that
helped
them
over
the
winter,
along
with
the
market
they
held
up
at
lansing.
E
E
Yeah,
I
also
I
just
found
my
notes.
I
did
have
14
000
for
the
farmer's
market
from
our
last
discussion.
C
A
Okay,
so
penciling
at
14
000
for
21.
project
22
partners
in
health.
We
did
not
support
that.
Once
I
put
in
zero
funding
at
the
agency
meeting.
A
There
was
a
question
about
how
were
they
planning
on
reaching
out
to
latinx
and
asian
families?
In
particular,
I
said
they're
working
with
an
agency
that
puts
out
videos
in
different
languages
that
their
program
will
stress
cultural
competency
and
knowing
your
clients,
background,
and
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
reach
out
to
communities
of
color
around
health
issues
and
self-ad
advocacy.
A
A
A
A
D
B
Well,
just
a
couple
reminders
chai,
which
I
think
is:
community
housing.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
I
stands
for,
but
or
might
be
community
home
homeless,
something
that
the
owner
of
the
building
took
on
that
building
specifically
to
provide
this
service
to
the
community.
F
B
Part
of
the
reason
that
the
owner
of
the
building
does
not
you
know
make,
I
don't
want
to
say
they.
Of
course
they
make
repairs,
but
they
don't.
The
thought
had
been
that
by
offering
rent
as
at
the
lowest
amount
possible
and
making
it
known
to
the
service
provider
of
the
shelter,
that
upgrades
would
be
their
responsibility.
B
That's
kind
of
how
that
agreement
is
structured
at
that
location,
the
it's
been
the
same
building
owner
for
all
of
the
iterations
of
the
that
the
shelter
has
been
there
so
from
when
it
was
red
crossed
also
when
it
was
rescue
mission
to
now
when
it's
st
john's.
So
it
was
a
community.
You
know
like
basically
a
couple
of
individuals
that
stepped
up
in
the
community
to
purchase
that
site
now.
B
So
that
leads
me
to
believe
that,
even
if
the
shelter
weren't
there
that
there
would
be
some
service
provided
to
to
people
who
are
in
need
of
low-cost
housing,
however,
I
think
what
is
causing
the
uncertainty
here
is
that
st
john's
rich
bennett
said
that
you
know
the
owner
has
had
offers
on
that
location.
B
So
to
me,
it
just
that
kind
of
threw
in
some
uncertainty
to
the
mix
if
the
owner
is
thinking
about
selling
it.
I
inquired
about
that,
but
didn't
receive
from
rich
bennett
like
fuller
information
about.
If
that's
realistic,
if
it's
you
know
going
to
be
sold
to
an
entity
that
would
provide
affordable
housing,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
there,
but
also
what
was
discussed
is
even
if
they
went
forward
with
their
expanded
shelter
plans
they
would
need.
B
How
long
we
don't
know,
I
think
we
could
put
into
a
contract-
and
this
is
really
getting
at
the
point
that
you
had
that
if,
if
with
in
a
certain
number
of
years,
the
program
you
know
is
not
serving
a
low-income
population
that
they
wouldn't
that
they
st
john's
would
need
to
return
the
money.
I
think
we
could
structure
that
into
the
contract.
D
D
Because
I
don't
mind
giving
saint
john's
the
benefit
of
better
ventilation,
because
I
think
ventilation
is
so
important
now,
but
if
it's
just
if
their
lease
is
up
and
then
they've
had
offers
from
this,
you
know
if
it
turns
into
a
profit
selling
it
to
a
developer
whatever,
and
we
spend
our
tiny
little
amount
of
money
having
given
them
superior
air.
But
it
sounds
like
that.
You're
not
worried
about
that.
B
It's
not
that
I'm
not
worried
about
it.
It
seems
like
we
at
this
moment,
feel
that
we
could
structure
something
to
have
the
money
paid
back
if
it
goes
out
of
service
for
a
low-income
population,
but
we
would
have
to
structure
the
contract
that
way
and
st
john's
is
the
grantee.
So
saint
john's
right.
E
Is
there
a
way
to
loan
loan
it
to
chai
rather
than
to
loan
it
to
saint
john's
with
you
know,
forgivable
after
five
years,
you
know
how
we
do
those
other
ones
that
you
have
to
be
there
whatever
many
years
and
it's
totally
forgiven
or
you
pay
it
back.
I
mean,
if
you're
going
to
sell
the
building
for
a
big
windfall
pay
us
back
right.
B
I
think
that
I
think
the
complication
there
is
we
have
not
had
communication
from
chai,
nor
has
st
john's
been
definitive
in
what
the
plans
are
for
that
building.
They
did
not
provide
further
information
about
who
has
requested
the
you
know
what
it
looks
like
has
the
landlord
said
that
they
are
selling
it?
A
But
at
the
presentation
rich
did
say
they
anticipate
continuing
to
use
that
building.
A
E
A
That
was
my
sense
that
this
would
allow
them
to
increase,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
means
going
back
to
you
know
pre-pandemic
service
numbers,
but
it
would
allow
them
to
increase,
and
we
know
that
the
space
is
needed.
A
You
know,
we
know
that
the
folks
who
need
those
services
are
here
and
there
about
the
city.
So
the
way
I
was
looking
at
this
is
it's
it's
something
that's
needed
for
safety,
not
just
for
the
clients
for
the
staff.
That's
there
too.
It
will
allow
them
to
have
more
people
in
the
building
during
the
day.
C
A
A
though
we
still,
you
know,
I
think
staff
was
still
working
on
getting
some
buy-in
from
downtown
association.
B
Okay,
so
I
reached
out
dia
said
that
they
wouldn't
they
would
be
interested
in
partnering,
but
they
didn't
feel
they
could
be
the
project
sponsor
and
also
after
our
conversation,
I
asked
what
they
were
in,
what
they
envisioned
their
partnership
as
being,
and
they
needed
to
consider
that
more,
I
was
in
a.
I
was
invited
to
a
meeting
in
the
planning
department
of
the
group
that
meets
regularly
about
the
commons.
B
So
dia
was
there,
as
was
department
of
public
works
and
the
planners,
and
I
think
there
is
some
general
consensus
or
or
yeah
general
consensus
that
there's
a
problem
that
there
is
a
problem,
but
there
there
was
not
general
consensus
as
to
how
to
achieve
the
level
of
staffing
that
this
group
that
ni
has
indicated
that
they
would
like
to
see.
There
was
dwp
crews
get
to
work
at
six
in
the
morning.
B
If
the
restroom
were
locked
overnight,
they
could
unlock
it.
Dwp
crews
during
the
summer
have
other
projects
that
they're
not
so.
There
was
sort
of
a
soft,
I
won't
say
a
commitment,
but
there
was
some
thought:
the
dwp
crew,
dpw
crews,
could
do
some
of
the
monitoring
until
their
shifts
are
over
at
2
30,
but
as
to
committing
to
a
schedule,
will
be
difficult
because
they
have
projects
that
take
them
away
from
the
commons
on
during
the
summer,
dia
cruz,
our
crew
member
is
available
until
about
6
p.m.
B
So
that's
the
latest
that
they
could
monitor
the
project
and
again
they
have
a
lot
of
other
commitments
and
duties.
So
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
would
the
schedule
look
like
not
being
sure
whether
either
entity
could
commit
to
them?
Neither
of
them
have
nighttime
crews.
There
was
discussion
about
whether
having
it
open
from
6
a.m
to
6
p.m
would
really
be
sufficient
to
meet.
You
know
kind
of
the
recommendations
of
the
stakeholders.
B
So
that's
kind
of
where
it
is
there's
I've
reached
out
to
the
fire
chief,
because
there's
been
a
you
know.
Somebody
brought
to
my
attention:
well,
the
the
fire
department
is
there
24
hours
and
they
have
a
parking
lot.
Perhaps
they
could
do
some
monitoring,
but
I
just
did
that
yesterday
and
I
haven't
heard
back
from
him.
B
I
think
I
think
it
we're
in
a
very
similar
situation
as
to
what
staff,
where
staff
was
earlier
in
the
year
that
there
was
a
lot
of
community
consensus,
that
something
was
needed,
but
there
was
no
there's
nobody
stepping
forward
feeling
comfortable
to
be
a
project
sponsor
at
this
point,
conversations
are
continuing.
Tom
knight
was
part
of
this
discussion
in
that
joanne
hosted.
You
know
he
really
sees
the
need
for
a
permanent
structure,
but
it
there's
a
lot
of
ongoing
discussion
I'll
leave
it
there.
E
B
I
mentioned
that
in
this
planning
department
meeting,
but
I
think
that
that
discussion
came
up
in
this
group
that
that
would
have
been
a
good
idea.
However,
you
know
vasino
is
pretty
far
along
in
their
planning,
and
I
I
think
that
would
require
some
fairly
extensive
revamp
of
their
plans.
I
don't
think
they
they
haven't
been
approached
by
me.
I'll,
say
to
include
that,
and
I
doubt
anybody
else
in
has
approached
them
with
that.
E
Given
all
this
talk
about,
everybody
thinks
it's
a
problem,
but
nobody
wants
to
do
it.
I
don't
think
we
should
do
that
this
year
either.
I
think
we
should
take
the
money
out
of
that
for
now.
I'm
sorry
to
say
that,
but
I
think
we
should.
C
On
the
other
hand,
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
it's
taking
kind
of
a
leadership
position
and
if,
if
they've
committed,
if
they
can
do
6
a.m
to
6
p.m,
that
would
be
a
beginning
and
someone
else
like
the
downtown
business
folks
might
be
able
to
patch
onto
that
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
saying
it's.
E
B
I
think
that
yeah,
I
I
think,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
all
your
concerns
are
totally
valid
about
this.
I
I
don't
know
how
this
could
possibly
go
forward
without
a
project
sponsor.
It
was
mentioned
to
me
that
perhaps
the
better
use
of
the
funds
or
okay.
So
if
we
have
an
ada
compliance
restroom,
I'm
not
saying
you
know
that
that
would
cost
three
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
all
the
rest
of
this
budget
is,
you
could
be
used
for
cleaning
or
something
else.
B
Somebody
asked
me
during
one
of
these
meetings.
Why
not
fund
it
at
a
larger
amount
and
have
be
able
to
hire
somebody
to
monitor
it?
Eight
thousand
dollars?
I
did
some.
I
just
tried
to
do
some
back
of
the
envelope
calculations
at
an
hourly
wage
of
15
an
hour
provides
about
700
hours
of
staffing
or
monitoring,
which
would
work
out
to
be
somewhere
between
like
10
and
14
hours
a
week.
B
I
I
don't
know
if
I
mean
with,
I,
don't
know
how
it
could
possibly
work
to
you
know.
Maybe
this
funding
could
be
directed
toward
providing
supplementary
staffing.
It's
it.
Wouldn't
it
wouldn't
pay
for
a
dpw
crew
member,
they
I'm
sure
they
get
paid
far
above
15
an
hour
plus
fringe.
That
was
just
a
comment
that
I
received
that
maybe
the
money
would
be
better
spent
staffing,
some
providing
staff
support.
B
F
If
maybe
that
is
sufficient
and
but
you're
rather
an
effort
like
that
will
probably
need
to
take
it
back
on
an
existing
position,
maybe
supplementing
one
of
the
commons
ambassadors
from
the
dia
or
something
like
that
and
yeah.
I'm
not
sure,
but
you
know.
F
D
And
these
that
do
do
we
know
how
to
get
figures,
for
example,
there's
a
bathroom
in
treeman
and
it's
open.
I
don't
know
if
it's
open
at
night
or
if
it
closes
at
night,
but
presumably
one
of
the
people
who
takes
care
of
the
park.
One
of
their
staff
looks
in
once
a
day
twice
a
day.
How
many
hours
does
that?
Take?
How
much
I
mean
there
should
be
something
we
could
compare
it
to,
because
basically
we
could.
We
could
build
one
of
those
little
bathrooms
into
a
park.
B
I
see
the
question,
I
think
the
issue
is
really
that
yeah
and
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
I
can
definitely
reach
out
to
treeman.
I
I
think
in
general,
usually
an
existing
bathroom.
It's
it's
part
of
somebody
else's
job,
whether
it's
a
part
of
a
janitorial
job.
It's
part
of
a
ranger
job,
it's
part
of
somebody
else's
job.
I
don't
see
any
local
models
and
I
know
you're
not
asking
this.
Where
there's
you
know
a
bathroom
attendant.
Okay,.
D
Become
part
of
somebody's
job
like
a
dpw
or
commons,
ambassador
or
maintenance
person
who
does
maintenance
in
the
new
new,
like?
Maybe
we
can't
it's
too
late
to
build
it
into
the
conference
center,
but
maybe
their
maintenance
crew.
We
could
put
one
in
the
alley
between
the
bank
and
the
whatever
and
then
their
crew
could
just
add
on
the
10
hours
a
week
or
whatever
I
mean.
B
B
I
thought
that
was
an
excellent
point.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
that,
even
with
including
staff
time
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
to
work
out,
because
unless
there's
somebody
who's
willing
to
staff
it
to
sponsor
it,
the
point
is
moot,
and
I
think
that
there's,
I
think
at
base
level
there's
a
lot
of
hesitancy
to
take
on
the
project.
People
think
a
lot
about
liability
and
there
isn't.
B
You
know,
because
there
isn't
currently
a
downtown
bathroom
that
has
that
model
built
in
or
the
kinds
of
maintenance
that
the
department
of
public
works.
Crews
do
is
not
kind
of
exactly
in
line
with
that,
and
because
people
have
referred
to
their
shrunken
budgets,
it's
just
it's
very
hard
to
go
forward.
I
will
say:
dpw
has
been
really
great
about
talking
to
me
about
this.
I
think
it's
just
that
you
know
the
kind
of
schedule
a
routine
is
not
well
defined
enough
for
them
to
commit
to,
and.
F
You
know
this
if,
if
this
facility
is
placed
anywhere
near
the
downtown,
what
seems
most
logical
to
me
and
I'm
just
listening-
is
the
the
ambassadors,
people
who
are
going
around
the
commons
already
cleaning
up
and
straightening
out-
and
this
is
you
know,
cleaning
up
and
straightening
out
another
it's
another
component
of
that.
If
the
facility
is
in
their
geography,
I
wouldn't
send
them
to
you
know
far
away.
It
has
to
be
in
really
into
downtown.
F
That
seems
to
align-
and
I
know
you
know
I
know
the
dia.
You
know
hiring
people.
Is
this
the
thing
but
we're
offering
we're
talking
about
offering
money
to
pay
for
those
hours?
We're
not
just
saying
do
it.
B
F
B
A
Here's
another
suggestion:
there
are
some
small
companies
that
do
provide
office
cleaning
two
come
to
mind
already
and
it's
quite
possible
that
we
could
contract
with
us
one
of
those
small
companies
and
say
for
every
day,
seven
days
a
week.
You
know
it
would
take
you
an
hour
at
the
max.
You
send
someone
to
restock
clean
up.
A
You
know
this
this
portable
restroom,
even
if
we
raise
the
amount
to
20
an
hour
for
an
hour's
worth
of
work
seven
days
a
week,
it
might
be
something
that
we
can
find
someone
to.
Do.
I
don't
know,
but
it's
something
we
could.
We
could
ask,
and
I
could
I
could
send
you
the
name
of
a
couple
of
the
companies
that
come
to
mind
immediately
and
see
if
they're
willing
to
take
it
on.
E
Well,
the
dia
puts
money
into
public
works
to
do
extra
cleaning
down
there.
Already
right
I
mean
there's,
there's
stuff
that
goes
on
down
there.
They,
you
know
they
have.
It
swept
more
often
and
things
like
that
and
the
trash
emptied
more
often,
and
things
like
that,
so
it
seems
like
it
would
be
better
if,
if
we
want
to
provide
money
that
it's
money
to
the
dia
that
then
hires
somebody
rather
than
we
hire
the
somebody
to
do
the
job,
do
you
know
what
I
mean
or
they
reallocate
some
of
their
money?
E
I
don't
know
what
their
budget
is,
but
I
I
do
believe
they
have
money
that
that
it's
from
all
those
assessment
things
they
do
and
if
they
see
it
as
a
priority,
I
would
like
them
to
put
some
money
behind
it
and
then
I'm
confused
about
what
we're
talking
about
for
funding
now
which
originally
we
were
talking
about.
Eleven
thousand.
Are
we
talking
about
using
that
money
to
pay
for
cleaning,
and
somebody
else
puts
the
thing
in
place.
What
are
we
talking
about?
A
B
That's
correct,
the
the
3000
is
also
for
an
ada
compliant.
One
which
was
brought
up
to
me.
Also
is
larger
and
might
have
more
difficulties
a
non-ada
compliant.
One
is
only
ninety
dollars
a
month.
So
that's
twelve
hundred
dollars
both
of
these
figures
plus
tax.
B
So
everything
else
I
mean
the
the
application
was
kind
of
built
with
a
lot
of
flexibilities
in
there,
and
there
is
the
pricing
the
basic
pricing
in
the
application,
but
basically
the
the
cost
of
the
unit
itself
is
not
very
much
everything
else
that
was
added
on
top
of
that
cost,
whether
you're
looking
at
1200
or
3000,
is
left
over
to
try
to
supplement
and
meet
the
needs
of
the
monitoring
and
cleaning.
B
The
issue
is
so
so
that's
why
tracy?
I
think
it
felt
confusing
when
I
said
like
so
then
I
tried
to
break
down
the
overage
and
see
how
many,
how
many
hours
a
month
in
a
year
that
would
pay
for
for
staffing
to
go
there.
So
that's,
I
think
what
seemed
a
little
complicated
there.
However,
all
of
this
is
contingent
upon
there
being
a
project
sponsor
dia
did
not
is
voiced
that
they
do
not
want
to
be.
The
project
sponsored
cia
asked
why
ira
isn't
the
project
sponsor?
B
I
indicated
that
we
fund
projects
and
we
try
to
facilitate
filling
in
gaps
to
find
project
sponsors
in
some
cases,
as
we
did
with
housing
for
school
success,
but
we
iura
does
not
implement
projects,
so
everything
is
contingent
on
finding
somebody
who's
willing
to
be
a
project
sponsor
and
the
likely
players.
B
A
C
Okay,
because
my
idea
is
off
the
wall,
but
I'm
gonna
throw
it
out
there
anyway,
I'm
thinking
about
cornell
and
their
investment
in
downtown.
They
have
over
400
employees
down
there
plus
and
I'm
and
they're.
You
know
if
we're
looking
at
ways
for
them
to
contribute
to
the
community
other
than
giving
us
direct
money.
C
Perhaps
this
is
something
that
they
might
be
interested
in,
that
we
could
get
them
involved
in
and
I'm
thinking
of
the
big
hotels
that
are
down
there,
perhaps
when
they
end
up
putting
together
a
program
among
themselves
that
they
might
be
interested,
but
cornell
very
well
might
be
interested
in
something
that
benefits
the
community.
It
might
look
real
good
for
them,
but
I
thought
out
of
the
box.
A
We
could
even
paint
the
the
facility
red.
E
A
D
It's
not
important.
I
was
just
going
to
ask
if
you
had
any
sense
that
part
of
the
pushback
and
denise's
go
away.
I
don't
see
her.
No
I'm
here
was
that
the
handicapped,
one
is
big
enough
for
more
mischief
to
happen
like
were
they
were
they
less
upset
about
the
possibility
of
a
regular
sized
one,
just
because
people
sleep
in
the
handicapped
one
and
do
more
illegal
things,
and
that
that's
not
their
issue.
B
This
was
it,
it
was
more
of
a
note
in
passing
than
I
don't
think
anybody
was
particularly
stuck
on
that.
But
what
I'll
say
is
none
of
the
discussions
have
gotten
down
to
the
level
of
like
okay,
let's,
like
let's
game
plan
this,
let's
you
know,
try
to
create
a
scenario
whereby
we
actually
we're
the
project
sponsor
here's,
here's
what
I'm
thinking
could
happen.
It's
more.
B
I
mean
I,
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
discussion
remains
kind
of
a
high
level,
that
it
might
be
a
good
idea,
but
they
don't
see.
Nobody
in
the
rooms
sees
exactly
how
it
can
be
implemented.
B
There's
not
a
lot
of
comments
on
what
what
I
proposed
here
in
terms
of
how
it
could
work.
Nobody
said
like
okay,
let's
take
this
scenario
and
you
know
get
a
basic
unit
and
let's
have
it
you
know
it's.
I
just
think
that
there
there's
there
is
acknowledgement
that
it
is
a
problem
that
people
are
going
to
the
restroom
outdoors,
but
there
is
not
acknowledgement
that
a
temporary
public
restroom
feels
comfortable
enough
for
people
to
want
to
support
it
there.
There
is
some
acknowledgement
that
it's
good
to
be
talking
about
it.
B
B
B
E
B
No
staff
needed
to
get
various
permissions
from
the
city
to
put
in
a
public
restroom
they've
gotten
those
permissions
and
they
emailed
jordan
cornish
at
the
end
of
march.
To
let
her
know
that
they're
ready
to
go
forward
with
their
project.
A
A
Her
vision,
so
the
question
is
well
one:
it's
interesting
that
of
all
these
great
projects.
This
is
the
one
with
the
most
controversy
right.
So
it
sounds
so
I
think
the
question
is:
do
we
want
to
keep
the
11
000
in
here
as
a
placeholder,
because
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
still
on
this,
so
we
keep
the
11
000
in
you
know
indicating
there's
general
support
for
this
until
we
get
the
answers
to
the
questions
and
which
hopefully
we'll
have
by
at
least
the
second
april
22nd
agency
meeting.
D
I
I
kind
of
agree
with
tracy
that
if
we
don't
have
a
sponsor
for
it,
I
wouldn't
put
it
in.
I
mean
if
we're
saying
that
we
would
give
staff
the
money
to
supervise
it.
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
you
know,
I
would
really
don't
want
to
give
them
they.
They
do
not
supervise
their
property
and
I
don't
think
eleven
thousand
dollars
is
going
to
make
them
supervise
their
property
and.
E
F
C
D
E
To
be
well-
and
I
also
I
wonder
more
about
that
city
leadership
of
it-
you
know
that
you
said
they've
gotten
the
they're
working
on
it.
So.
F
B
Oh,
they
don't
have
a
proposal,
it
was,
I
think
what
tracy
is
responding
to
correct
me.
Tracy,
is
that
tom
knight
indicated
that
you
know
maybe
we're
not
thinking
big
enough.
Maybe
this
needs
it
needs
to
be
an
infrastructure
project,
and
perhaps
there
would
be
infrastructure
money
coming
from
the
federal
government
at
some
point
so
may
I
I
mean
he
just
put
it
out
there
in
that
way,
not
that
there
was.
B
B
A
E
D
F
Being
that
we
have
a
little,
you
know,
we
still
have
some
money
to
distribute
that
we
wouldn't
bring
the
farmer's
market
project
to
it's.
Just
complete
amount.
F
F
A
But
also
if
we
go
further
up,
for
example,
to
projects,
excuse
me
four,
which
is
the
plain
street
duplex.
Now
we
had
said
that
all
right
inhcs
indicated
they
did
not
want
to
split
between.
You
know
two
funding
streams,
but
they
might
the
security
deposit
assistance,
the
2500.
We
could
put
that
in
project
6a.
B
Right,
cw
gccv:
we
now
have
1
601
and
60
cents
left
and
with
cdbg
we
have
sixteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ten.
A
B
B
F
Do
you
need
all
the
funds
allocated
or
is?
Is
it
prudent
to
have
a
little
left
over
or
what
was.
F
B
B
Program-
and
then
I
mean,
as
far
as
it
relates
to
cdbgcv
it's
possible.
If
there
were
some
left
over
that
there
would
still
be
an
emerging,
we
could
have
some
money
for
an
emerging
need.
B
F
C
Could
we
can
I
suggest
that
we
put
these
sixteen
hundred
dollars
toward
number
19.?
I
think
I
think
they
might
be
grateful
and
I
think
they
could
use
it
and
it's
very
much
cv
oriented.
E
E
Let
me
see
I'm
good
with
that.
The
other
thing
I'm
thinking
about
is
we
can
always
put
some
of
the
cdbg
regular
money
into
the
economic
development
loan
fund
and
hold
on
to
that.
That's
correct.
E
The
whole
thing
if
we
want,
but
that's
another
place
that
that
money
can
go
and
know
that
it
can
be
used
later.
C
B
E
Can
we
go
up
to
the
housing?
I
would
maybe
put
some
more
in
the
homeowner
rehab.
D
A
B
I
don't
know
I.
I
will
just
say
again
that
I
know
this
is
complicated,
but
I
nhs
said
it
could
do
two
to
three
jobs
with
home
funds.
Possibly
they're
for
homeowner
rehab
cdbg
is
much
more
flexible
and
you
know
most
of
the
homes
in
ithaca
are
already
above
the
home
value
cap,
so
they
would
only
really
be
able
to
do
one
job
at
25
000.
B
So
I
I
think
you
know
with
their
cdbg
funding,
so
just
something
to
think
about.
If
you're
looking
for
places
to
put
cdbg
funding.
B
B
A
Right
now
take
them
closer
and
that
you
know
affordable
housing
and
affordable,
well
duplex.
So
certainly
if
we
could
support
that,
I
mean
the
other
thing
too
is
I
think
someone
mentioned
this
earlier
hutp
that
would
take
us
up
to
almost
their
full
ask.
E
There
was
something
confusing
I
I
had
some
more
questions
for
them
that
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
ask
during
that
public
thing.
One
was
she
mentioned
that
there's
a
sp
they're
doing
a
special
cohort
that
will
guarantee
jobs
at
cornell.
Was
that
right.
E
B
Oh,
I
was
just
wondering
so
is:
what
would
is
what
I
should
do,
tracy
to
reach
out
to
leslie
and
ask
for
more
detail
about
how
that
how
that
relationship
was
formulated
and
exactly
what
it
would
look
like,
where
those
jobs
would
be
yeah.
E
I
mean
that's
something
I'm
interested
in
finding
out,
I'm
not
sure
it's.
We
don't
have
to
know
it
right
this
second,
maybe
but
yeah.
She
also
gave
an
example
that
it
was
somebody
who
went
on
to
get
her
massage
license
and-
and
I
just
wondered
where
she
got
the
money
to
go
to
massage
school,
and
you
know
it
was
it
was,
and
it
was,
I
don't
know
whatever.
E
B
I
I
mean
my
understanding:
there
was
that
they
didn't
they.
They
didn't
indicate
that
they
had
given
that
student
help
with
the
financing
of
massage
school,
but
rather
the
ability
to
have
the
internship
and
understanding
of
okay.
What
that
industry
was
like,
because
she
had
the
the
internship
at
a
place
that
gave
massages
and
she
was
able
to
work
with
the
masseuses
there.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
couple
suggestions:
one
is
in
the
the
home
housing
projects.
Rather,
we
could
put
the
remainder
either
to
the
duplex
or
to
what
was
the
other
one.
The.
A
Yeah
yeah
we
could
14
000..
I
would
just
say
I
would.
I
would
be
in
favor
of
reuse
or
http,
because
their
job
training
for
most
vulnerable
populations,
particularly
reuse.
C
E
E
F
I
mean
this
is
splitting
the
money
bruh.
I
think
it's
books
and
go
to
15.
Http
can
go
to
100,
000
and
reuse
can
go
to
90
000.
you
like,
then
you,
like
nice
round
numbers.
E
F
A
If
we,
if
we
increase
http,
I'm
sorry
reuse,
maybe
I
missed
what
you
said
for
now.
You
said
reused
to
a
hundred
thousand
or
eight
ninety
to.
A
D
A
D
A
C
Can
I
ask
for
one
little
clarification
on
number
23,
the
hvac
upgrade
the
twenty
thousand
three
hundred
dollars.
That
is
with
the
the
repayment
stipulation
right
that
we
would
have.
C
I
really
feel
carl
said
that
their
lease
is
up
in
november
they're.
Looking
for
another
place,
the
owner
has
some.
I
mean
this
is
really
set
up
for
a
sale,
so
I
would
like
some
guarantee
there.
Yeah.
B
So
is
the
stipulation
if,
if
the
site
no
longer
serves
extremely
low
income
population.
B
C
I
don't
know
how
anybody
else
feels
about
that.
I
don't
know
how
putting
it
and
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
language.
What
do
you
think
you
know
what
my
sense.
B
I
just
said
I
I'm
sorry.
I
hope
it
didn't
feel
like
I
was
putting
you
on
the
spot.
Call
that
I
we
can
work,
I'm
just
looking
for
some
guidance
to
work
out,
a
stipulation
that
we
can
propose
to
ira
and
do
the
research
that
we
we
can
do
that
like
how
many
number
of
years
and
who
it's
serving.
E
The
only
thing
is
if
this
is
going
to
saint
john's,
but
it's
really
chai
that's
selling
the
building.
If
they
sell
the
building.
I
don't
know
how
you
recollect
our
loan
from
st
john's.
I
mean
I
like
having
the
idea
that
we
have
some
guarantee
that
this
is
going
to
be
used
in
the
way
we're
intending
it,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
little
tricky.
B
F
B
Home
funding
home
funding
definitely
has
these
affordability
requirements
for
affordable
housing.
Like
you
can't
you
know
five
years,
I
think
it's
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars.
Ten
years
is
up
to
20,
000.
and
15,
I
think,
is
up
to
30,
000
or
more
so
home
funding
for
bill.
You
know,
investing
in
somebody's
home
does
but
cdbg
funding.
B
It
needs
to
be
compliant
at
the
time
of,
and
I
believe
that
we
can
put
further
conditions
on
it,
but
the
cdbg
affordability
periods
usually
have
to
do
with
well,
actually
come
to
think
of
it.
I
I
will
look
into
if
there's
an
existing
cdbg
reg,
because
this,
actually
I
keep
forgetting
it
is.
B
A
Okay,
all
right
folks,
so
it
looks
like
we
have
done
our
duty
here
and
have
distributed
the
funds.
A
A
B
So
all
right,
I
already
told
you,
the
cd
city,
will
be
receiving
money
from
the
american
rescue
plan
over
a
million
dollars
for
a
hybrid
type
program
to
target
homelessness.
I
told
you
that
the
c
three
cbdos
that
we
are
working
with
gi,
hi
and
reuse
look
to
qualify
this
year.
B
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
next
month,
when
I
provide
the
analysis
memo
for
how
those
have
complied
we'd,
also
like
to
talk
to
with
you
about
the
certification
process
that
hud
has
set
in
place
and
ask
for
your
guidance
in
if
there's
recommendations
that
you
have
in
how
we
could
possibly
strengthen
that
process.
B
Hud's
process
is
kind
of
it's
very
vague
and
subjective,
and
so,
but
there's
a
certain
risk
involved,
because
cbdos
that
receive
funding,
if
they
fall
out
of
compliance,
then
ira
would
be
required
to
pay
the
money
back
that
to
hud.
So
you
know
this
is
a
discussion
that
you
know
we
have
each
year
and
nels
would
like
us
to
bring
forward.
Some
would
like
to
hear
from
you,
after
after
discussing
with
you
more
about
what
the
process
looks
like,
if
you
have
additional
recommendations
that
we
can
implement.
B
Also,
I
believe
you
saw
the
anonymous
comment
that
was
included
in
the
packet.
Our
citizen
participation
plan
does
not
have
any
provisions
for
anonymous
comment,
so
we
reached
out
to
ayura
attorney
mariette
gildenheiss
and
consulted
with
her
about
how
to
handle
the
comment
which
she
she
recommended
that
we
share
it
with
you.
As
any
other
comment,
she
she
did
not.
B
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
she
said
it
was
a
recommendation,
but
she
did
note
that
this
this
topic
of
anonymous
comment
might
be
one
that
ira
would
like
to
make
a
policy
about
and
amend
the
citizen
participation
plan.
I
will
bring
forward
to
you
a
memo
that
summarizes
the
conversation
that
we
have
with
her
for
you
to
consider
and
think
about.
If
there's
any
way,
you
know
what
you
would
like
us
to
do
at
this
point.
We
can
leave
it
as
is,
or
maybe
you
have
some
other
guidance.
B
So
there
are
those
two
things
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know,
because
we're
getting
too
close
to
april
15th,
that
that
is
when
the
cold
weather
policy
ends
with
the
state,
meaning
that
many
people
who
are
unhoused
have
been
housed
through
the
cold
weather
policy
during
the
pandemic
and
so
area
service
providers
are
expecting
to
see
an
uptick
in
people
who
are
no
longer
able
to
access
those
hotel
units,
so
you
may
be
seeing
seeing
the
results
of
that
around
town.
These
service
providers,
of
course,
are
encouraging.
B
B
B
You
may
have
heard
that
a
12
year
old
in
the
spencer
road
neighborhood
found
a
handgun,
and
so
this
is
an
attempt
to
you
know,
get
a
community
working
group
on
how
to
how
to
address
that,
and
I
let
travis
know,
although
it's
you
know
not
there's
not
time
for
this,
for
this
funding
cycle
that
as
they
progress
that
that
could
be
an
eligible
public
service
to
apply
for
funding
for
for
next
year.
So
that's
it.
A
You
know
teresa.
A
Couldn't
find
it
so
yeah
one
of
the
things
so
about
those
comments,
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
and
he
says
that
I
think
they're
pretty
serious
and
they
appear
to
be
from
if
not
an
insider,
at
least
someone
with
some
some
pretty
extensive
inside
knowledge
about
the
shelter
and
its
operations.
So
I
think
at
some
point.
A
Well,
I
I
would
assume
the
staff
is
concerned
is
going
to
look
into
it,
but
perhaps
at
our
main
meeting
we
could
get
an
update
on
that
and
update
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
follow-up
may
have
happened,
because
you
know
if,
if,
if
it,
if
the
shelter's
being
run
that
badly
that's
a
real
concern,
particularly
if
they
are
looking
to
go
into
this
huge
project
of
obtaining
this
hotel
and
expanding,
you
know
the
the
services
they
offer.
If
they
can't
run
the
current
shelter.
E
B
Okay,
so
to
carl's
question
first,
so
in
our
consultation
with
mariette
she's,
because
she
advised
to
share
the
public
comment.
As
the
you
know,
she
didn't
say
this,
I'm
I'm
saying
this
is
an
analogy.
If
that
public
comment
had
been
made
at
the
public
hearing,
you
know
kind
of
it's
an
equivalent
type
of
thing.
That's
why
we
shared
it
with
you,
but
I
I
think
the
next
step
would
be
if
ira
wanted
to
inquire
of
st
john's.
B
You
know
ask
some
questions
related
to
this.
Then
they
could
direct
staff
to
do
that.
She
did
not
indicate
that
we
ourselves
should
should
investigate
that.
We
should
accept
it
as
a
comment
which
we
do
we
get
con.
We
don't
get
a
ton
of
comments,
but
normally
we
receive
comments
and
we
need
to
make
a
response
to
the
comment.
B
B
So
if
ira
would
like
to
direct
us
to
have
those
conversations,
we
can,
but
that's
not
a
step
that
we've
taken
at
this
point,
just
to
be
clear
on
that
carl
and
tracy.
Your
question
was:
if
the
person
had
also
contacted
the
county-
and
I
don't.
B
I
would
assume
so
yeah,
so
I
did
carl
did
my
did
my
response
make
sense.
It
was
because
it's
a
public
comment,
like
you
know,
okay,.
A
I
it
raised
concerns
for
me,
particularly
as
they're
asking
for
ongoing
funding,
and
we
will,
I
think,
can
see
more
funding
requests
as
they
move
towards
this
larger
project
and,
if
there's
an
allegation
that
the
shelter
is
not
being
run
appropriately,
I
think
a
conversation
should
be
had
with
richard
rich
bennett.
B
I
think
that
the
ni
committee
could
ask
him
to
a
meeting
to
to
talk
with
you
about
these.
I
think
honestly
as
well.
The
one
of
the
upper
level
summaries
was
that
the
commenter
said
that
if
there
were
to
be
funds
awarded,
they
would
like
to
recommend
that
there
be.
You
know,
specific.
B
To
say
that
there
would
be
programmatic
conditions,
so
I
have
to
say
that
you
all
have
also
in
your
discussions
the
questions
that
you
asked
me
to
bring
to
the
to
st
jones.
Had
these
types
of
programmatic
questions
in
them.
So
I
think
it's
really.
You
all
had
indicated
that
you
wanted
to
see
more
thorough
information
about
how
the
program
would
be
run
and
the
business
plan.
So
it's
it
seems
like
this
group
anyway,
has
already
been
thinking
of
those
those
items
going
forward.
A
A
E
Yeah
my
sense
when
we
had
the
them
come
to
the
or
this
last
meeting
was,
I
don't
think
they
have
these
questions
even
like
figured
out
yet
I
I
I
didn't
sense
that
they,
I
thought
it
still
felt
incredibly
fuzzy
to
me.
I
mean
we
can
say
up
front.
We
really
want
to
hear
about
your
staffing
plan.
We
really
want
to
hear
you
know
who
are
you
planning
to
house?
Are
you
planning
to
house
anybody?
Anybody
is
it?
Can
people
stay
in
there?
E
I
want
to
know
if
people
can
stay
in
their
rooms
all
day,
because
if
you
just
evict
people
out
on
the
street,
I
don't
feel
like.
That's
such
a
good
idea
and
in
terms
of
what
is
the
programming.
Is
there
programming
for
people
who's
who's,
doing
what?
Where
and
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
before
we
funded
chai
a
lot
of
questions
and
who
you
know
what
was
the
staffing,
etc?.
B
So
I'm
sorry
just
so
you
know
I.
I
can't
hear
right
now:
okay,.
B
Okay,
I
can
I'm
sorry
tracy.
B
Okay,
my
audio
cut
out.
So
if
you
were
to
direct
any
questions,
I'm
sorry.
E
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
programming
and
staffing
and
and
who
will
be
housed
there
and
what
are
the
rules
and
can
people
stay
in
the
rooms
all
day
and
and
things
like
that?
What
does
permanent
supportive
housing
look
like
if
you
can
only
have
a
little
tiny
microwave
or
something
I
don't
know?
Is
it
permanent
at
all?
What
happens?
E
Because
it's
also
big
when
you
say
people
are
sharing
the
kitchen?
It's
big,
it's
not
a
trivial
question.
F
B
So
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
it
sounds
like
st
john's
is
in
a
you
know,
conversation
process
and
negotiation
process.
I
should
say
and
will
be
further
developing
their
plans,
and
it
does
seem
to
me
that
june
will
be
an
appropriate
time
to
have
them
in.
B
To
or
maybe
even
as
soon
as
may,
if
we
have
more
information
on
what
the
federal
funding
that
the
city
will
be
receiving
can
be
used
for
more
more
definitive
information.
But
it
sounds
like
those
are.
You
know
you
want
to
have
a
con
conversation
with
him
and
we
can.
I
can
reach
out
and
tentatively
schedule,
that
for
either
mayor
june.
E
B
B
A
B
Yes,
that's
my
understanding,
I
didn't
I
I
have
the
summary
memo.
Those
were
her
words.
I
erased
the
messenger
that
we're
not
in
the
position
to
be
able
to
give
context
to
what
these,
where
these
comments
came
from,
because
we
don't
know,
but
that
ira
could
follow
up
or
simply
have
the
conversation
that
that
you
all
have
been
having
predating
this.
The
the
comment
that
was
received,
you
want
more
information
and
so
can
indicate
that
to
st
john,
so
you
want
to
ask
them
some
questions.
A
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
This
was
a
long
meeting,
but
we
knew
that
they
always
are.
This
is
important
part
of
our
work,
so
thank
you
all
and
we'll
see
what
the
agency
you
know
comes
up
with
so
more
to
come.
So
the
agency,
the
first
meeting,
is
next
tuesday
and
then
the
following
week.
B
That's
the
economic
development
committee
meeting
is
today.