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From YouTube: IURA Neighborhood Investment Committee Meeting (7/8/22)
Description
The Neighborhood Investment Committee's responsibilities are to:
1. Advise the IURA Board on issues in the following focus areas:
A. Neighborhood quality
B. Housing
C. Infrastructure/community facilities
D. Public Services
2. Advise the IURA Board on funding proposals received in focus areas
3. Oversight of implementation of projects in focus areas
A
A
B
A
A
A
First
order
of
business
is
the
minutes
from
our
june
2022
meeting.
I
was
not
there
though
I
just
will
state.
This
is
something
that
comes
up
probably
every
time
that
you
can
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
and
he
said-
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
this
was,
I
think
I
need
to
look
this
up.
You
can
vote
if
you
were
not
present
at
the
previous
meeting.
A
A
Yeah
and
yeah
may
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
the
june
meeting.
D
C
A
And
thank
you,
everyone.
I
was
unable
to
attend
there.
There
was
the
one
in
person
meeting
in
the
last
what
two
years-
and
I
happen
to
be
out
of
town.
A
Okay,
next
on
our
agenda
is
the
discussion
of
the
three
applications
we
receive
for
reprogramming
the
cdbg
cv
funds.
Thank
you,
anissa,
for
getting
the
process
going
and
getting
those
those
applications
in
without
the.
E
Applications,
I'm
sorry
steve.
I
didn't
get
a
copy
of
that
of
that
there
was
a
you
mentioned
that
there
was
an
attachment,
but
I
never
got
the
attachment,
but.
D
A
Right
that
was
the
second
email
in
lisa
said
so
initially
it
went
out
separate
in
a
pdf
and
then
anisa
sent
another
email
with
the
entire
agenda
package,
and
that's,
I
think,
was
it
yesterday
after
I
have
to
go
back.
It.
B
B
Okay,
I
wonder
I
wonder
if,
for
something
in
your
email
is
filtering
it
out.
B
E
E
A
B
E
Oh
okay,
see
now
I'm
looking
at
fernando's
email
and
the
attachment
is
included
in
his
the
email
that
he
was
just
sending.
He
just
sent
to
say
that
he
was
going
to
be
late,
but
in
the
email
that
I
received
it
wasn't
there.
I
got
the
the
agenda,
but
not
the
actual
attachment.
C
A
E
Regular
outlook,
okay.
A
All
right:
well,
we
did
receive
three
proposals
for
use
of
the
funds.
I'm
just
going
to
pause
a
second,
I
see
fernando's
dialing
in
so
let
him
get
in
and
then
we'll
once
he's
set.
Then
we'll
we'll
start
the
discussion.
So
I'm.
A
C
A
C
D
B
B
We
had
previously
asked
salvation
army
if
they
wanted
to
submit
a
proposal
for
reprogramming
which
they
were
considering,
but
they
decided
they
didn't
have
the
capacity,
and
that
was
it.
That
was
all
that
received
it.
I.
A
So
the
first
application
you
see
us
on
our
screen,
nisa
sharing
her
screen
with
us
and
from
the
the
packet
that
anissa
said
on
wednesday.
It's
on
page
six
of
the
out
of
the
51
pages,
so.
A
C
A
And
our
first
application
is
from
catholic
charities,
tompkins
tioga
counties,
aid
for
immigrants,
funding
about
seventeen
thousand
dollars
anissa,
you
wanna,
take
us
through
this.
B
Sure-
and
I
did
because
we're
still
waiting
to
find
out
what
the
final
balance
will
be.
We
think
it's
a
about.
I
think,
last
time
I
told
you
it
was
about
17
800,
but
somebody's
submitting
a
voucher.
That's
slightly
more
so
I
told
people
would
be
about
17
475
000,
but
you
know
for
the
purposes
of
the
application
to
just
put
in
17
000,
but
we
would
consider
the
full
amount
of
whatever
is
available.
So
this
is
for
immigrant
services
program,
which
I
know
you
know
well.
B
They
received
some
previous
cdbg
cv
for
their
outreach,
doing
outreach
during
covet
19.
and
so
the
and,
by
the
way
I
I
think
I
told
you
this
already,
but
we're
using
the
application
that
we
already
created.
B
B
So,
in
speaking
to
sue
and
looking
over
this
application,
they
have
been
first
of
all,
seeing
you
see
in
the
second
paragraph
there
seeing
an
uptick
in
evacuees
from
afghanistan
and
also
the
ukraine,
so
they
are
working
with
some.
You
know
sort
of
new
populations,
although
I
know
that
they
always
worked
with
afghanis,
and
she
talks
a
lot
about
how
in
when
people
who
are
very
new
to
them
are
coming
to
them.
B
They're
really
doing
a
lot
related
to
health
and
covet
prevention
talking
to
them
about
what's
available,
helping
them
get
set
up
with
health
resources.
B
Many
people
who
are
new
to
the
country
are
not
familiar
with
what's
available
or
even
how
to
get
vaccinated,
so
they
have
been
doing
a
lot.
It
sounds
like
during
this
entire
time
for
that
population,
so
they're
really
continuing
they
they're
proposing
to
continue
this
type
of
service
with
them
when
they
meet
with
them.
B
Let's
see
so
they
the
who
they
would
be
reaching,
because
this
is
always
very
important
to
us-
is
really
the
same
population
that
they
they
do
with
this
program,
which
takes
a
lot
of
boxes
and
that
is
basically
the
gist
of
their
their
applications.
They
do
feel
like
they
could
meet.
I
wrote
this
down
about
36,
sorry,
on
the
first
page,
36.
C
B
Yeah
and
they
would
be
100
below
80
ami
most
would
be
city
of
ithaca
residents.
Are
there
any
questions
about
this?
One
that
I
might
barely
imagine.
B
Yes,
yeah,
we
asked
people
when
I
notified
them.
I
said
you
know
we're
looking
to
have
this
spent
by
summer
of
2023.
Hud
wants
us
to
have
eighty
percent
of
our
original
cdbg
cv
grants
spent
by
summer
of
2023,
and
so
I
forget,
if
she
filled
this
out
here,
actually
the
timeline.
So
all
of
them
know
that
that's
when
they
need
to
have
it
done.
Sorry,
I'm
I
don't
see
that
on
her
timeline
or
maybe
I'm
just
not
finding
the
timeline.
C
C
B
C
B
Yeah
they're
they're,
having
basically
12
months
or
as
soon
as
a
contract,
can
be
executed.
The
benefit
of
these
groups
is,
they
already
have
a
contract
with
us,
so
hopefully
for
charles.
That
would
make
it
a
lot
easier
to
create
the
new
contract,
although
oar
is
proposing
some
different
things
in
their
application.
So
it's
the
icc.
C
A
Yeah,
that's
one
thing.
I
noted
that
these
are
three
organizations
who
are
familiar
with
us
and
should
have
no
problems
with
the
the
reporting
and
just
want
to
note
the
capital
charities
proposals
for
staff
and
fringe
benefits.
D
A
Which
is
oar.
A
All
right,
so
you
can
see
on
the
first
page,
the
the
project
goals
has
to
do
with
additional
staff
to
help
with
some
of
the
the.
A
I
don't
know
how
to
rephrase
it
assisting
with
the
the
children
as
they
come
in,
because
they
have
limited
entry
into
the
building
where
parents
and
caregivers
are
able
to
drop
off
the
young.
The
youth.
A
And
there
is
a
matching
component
here:
the
17
000
from
us
matched
with
10
000
from
the
agency,
so
the
whole
project
costs
27,
000.
A
B
B
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
say
there
is
I
did
let
applicants
know
that
they
didn't
have
to
have
a
matching
for
this,
so
but
they
could
put
it
in
if
they
had
it.
So
it
appears
that
maybe
catholic
charities
didn't
have
something
like
that,
but
did
cc.
Does
I
will
say
that
we
did
reach
out
to
them,
because
one
of
the
things
that
they're
applying
for
is
ppe-
and
we
know
that
other.
B
As
you
may
recall-
the
child
development
council
had
applied
for
cdbg
funds
for
ppe
for
their
small
in-home
providers
and
that
they
had
trouble.
The
in-home
providers
had
trouble
documenting
all
their
ppe
expenses,
so
we
reached
out
with
the
ice
to
dicc,
to
see
if
they
might
have
any
similar
difficulties
in
and
she
said
no,
they,
unlike
the
small
providers,
they
buy
it
in
bulk
from
vendors,
and
they
already
had
a
track
record
with
us
of
you
know,
with
their
previous
cdbg
cv,
to
be
able
to
to
document
all
their
ppa
expenditures.
A
B
D
D
B
Yeah,
it
sounds
like
because
they're
still
in
kind
of
a
constrained
mode,
they
and
I
get
the
impression
that
they're
still
using
socially
distant
guidelines
that
were
probably
put
in
place
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
where
there's
like
fewer
children
per
each
staff
person
that
having
this
extra
person
helps
them.
D
Okay,
the
other
thing
I
would
say
about
this
is
they're
saying
it
would
affect
85
children,
70
cities.
So
that's
60,
children.
B
Yeah
I
had
to
ask
her
about
that.
It
seems
like
there's.
I
mean
they
because
they're
they're
not
up
to
100
of
serving
people
or
serving
the
families
that
they
used
to.
They
do
have
a
goal
to
serve
as
many
lmi
families
as
they
can.
B
But
so
they
expect
that
to
rise.
I
will
say
also
another
thing
that
comes
into
play
here
is
they're
using
a
different
metric
when
they
look
at
poverty
than
we
are.
They
they
use
federal
poverty
level,
which
is
quite
a
bit
different
than
ami.
Okay.
80
ami
is
quite
a
bit
higher
than
federal
primary
levels.
D
B
Yes-
and
I
I
wish
this
were
a
little
more
fully
spelled
out
in
their
yes
in
their
application,
but
yes,
I
talked
to
her
and
they
use
federal
poverty
level,
which
is
quite
low
and,
as
you
can
see
there
in
the
first
paragraph
she
says
currently
45
of
the
85
children
enrolled
are
living
in
poverty.
B
But
to
us
you
know
we're
looking
at
that
ami
number,
which
is
quite
high
yeah.
So
it's
a
little
it's
it's
not
as
clear
as
I
think
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
it
for
us.
You
know
I
can.
Certainly,
if
you
want
me
to
reach
out
to
her
more
to
you,
know
more
fully,
explain
that,
but
it
does
appear
that
they
would
be
able
to
reach.
You
know
at
least
the
minimum
threshold
of
51.
B
E
B
B
Yeah,
theoretically,
sometimes
the
committee
you
know,
chooses
to
divide
up
the
funds.
However,
what
I
will
say
is
we
know
that
I
mean
it's
not
a
ton
of
money,
normally
most
public
service
pro
projects
that
we
fund
during
the
regular
action
plan
come
in
at
about
20
thousand
dollars,
and
if
we
divide
it,
that
means
more
work
on
the
administrative
end,
our
end,
creating
the
contracts
which
could
delay
the
disbursement.
B
A
You
know
I
actually
have
and
not
to
take
us
too
far
off
from
discussing
the
applications,
but
so
this
is
reprogram.
Funds
excuse
me
that
were
granted
to
the
majority
of
the
17.
000
was
granted
to
cap
salvation
army
and
they
were
unable
to
complete
the
project
and
then
some
the
small
amount
of
the
remaining
funds
were
granted
to
alternatives
federal
credit
union.
A
Now
my
question
has
to
do
with
alternatives
on
the
grant
summary
which
we'll
discuss
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting.
It
still
shows
that
they
have
approximately
29
000
of
unexpected
funds,
and
I
know
that
they
at
one
point
I
remember-
maybe
it
was
april
or
may
we
had
talked
about
it
and
they
said
that
they
thought
they'd
be
able
to
voucher
for
the
majority
of
that
29
000.
A
So
my
question
is:
how
sure
are
we
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
capture
that?
Because
we
may
end
up
with
more
perhaps
even
a
great
amount
of
funds
that
will
need
to
be
reprogrammed
if
alternatives
is
unable
to
utilize
or
to
voucher
for
that
remaining
29
000.
D
I
kind
of
remember
us
talking
about
that:
could
go
back
to
the
loan
fund,
because
extra
money
was
taken
from
the
loan
fund
this
year
to
support
programs
and
that
would
put
that's
economic
development,
so
it
could
go
back
in
the
loan
fund.
So.
B
The
funds
that
the
these
reprogram
funds
are
salvation
army
us
about
2
000
from
the
child
development
council
is
coming
back.
B
475
from
inhs
their
erat
program
that
wasn't
enough
to
and
as
tracy
said
exactly
but
the
alternatives
nells
are
still
working
with
them.
You
know
to
kind
of
get
the
final
voucher,
but
yes,
it
was
discussed
to
go
back
to
the
ed
loan
fund.
There
may
be
more
cdbg
cv
funds
that
come
in
we're
working
with
a
couple.
Other
agencies
that,
like
st
john's,
this
is
going
to
be
part
of
my
staff
report
on
the
grant
summary
but
st
john's.
B
They
did
do
the
work
for
the
hvac
system
that
they
had
an
award
for
they're
having
trouble
with
the
davis
bacon
documentation
that
they
need
to
submit
so
we've
given
them
a
deadline
of
the
end
of
july
to
you
know,
submit
or
have
further
discussion
with
us,
so
there
may
be
other
funds
coming
back
in
small
or
larger
amounts,
but
right
now
this
is
what
we
have
available.
A
D
You
know
I
also
just
have
to
say
that,
as
I'm
looking
at
what
I
have
open
on
my
other
device
here
and
I'm
going
through
the
stuff,
I
didn't
get
the
even
page.
They
have
blank
pages.
So
there's
more
pages
in
here
when
I'm
looking
at
it
up
here
than
I
had
on
what
I
opened
in
my
mail,
which
is
weird
strange.
C
B
Okay,
I
wonder
if
that
I
wonder
if
you're
looking
well,
it
doesn't
matter,
but
I
wonder
if
I
wonder
if
the
item
that
I
sent
out
on
tuesday
was
flawed,
but
I
had
trouble
making
a
pdf
out
of
this
with
adobe
kept
wanting
to
like
merge
it
all
into
one
application,
but.
A
D
B
D
D
Are
they
fully?
Are
they
fully
enrolled
right
now.
A
Is
that
by
do
you
know
if
that's
by
design
or
just
people,
the
demand
is
not
there.
B
That's
a
great
question:
I
can
reach
out
to
her
to
get
more
clarification
again.
My
impression
was
it
had
to
do
with
the
guidelines
they
put
in
place
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
to
prevent,
like
overcrowding
or
like
full
capacity,
was
seen
as
like,
perhaps
not
being
the.
C
E
C
B
B
But
if
you
want
more
information,
in
fact,
I
will
send
an
email.
While
we
are
talking
and
maybe
she'll
respond
back.
I.
D
Okay,
I
mean
daycare
is
one
of
those
things
that
often
really
often
is
wanted
more
than
there
is
available.
C
C
B
A
You
see
that
oars
proposal
is
three
parts
to
have
a
peer
navigator
for
their
clients.
A
They
have
a
laundry
services
because
they
work
with
a
lot
of
people
who
you
know,
are
extremely
low
income
or
not
housed
properly
and
need
the
funds
to
for
cleaning
their
clothes
and
and
etc.
And
then
bus
passes
to
allow
folks
to
get
around
to
appointments
to
to
work.
D
B
Yes-
and
I
also
reached
out
to
dave
because
they
had
a
blank,
their
project
goals
were
blank,
so
I
just
want
to
read
to
you
what
he
okay
said:
the
goal:
one
of
the
main
goals
of
oar
outreach,
is
to
stabilize
individuals
in
our
community.
B
The
grant
will
allow
for
additional
outreach
and
support
hours
and
the
ability
to
provide
support.
Oops
sorry,
this
got
cut
off
stabilization,
complemented
by
oar
core
services,
including
linkages
and
referrals
to
appropriate
services
and
supports
okay.
Okay,
so,
as
you
might
have
noticed,
there
is
a
new
executive
director
who
he
previously
worked
with
the
county.
A
A
C
Impactful,
I
should
say
I
mean
the
the
children's
center
that
we
just
discussed,
they're,
basically
looking
to
pay
somebody
to
walk
the
kids.
If
you
read
what
they
say
to
walk
the
kids
to
the
classroom
and
I'm
thinking
you
know
you
can
get
a
volunteer
parent
to
do
that
I
mean
I
don't
know
it
just
seemed
like
I'm
sure
somebody
getting
paid
will
be
doing
multiple
things,
but
this
this
one
just
seems
like
they're,
really
being
able
to
spend
the
money
into
their
program
and
enhancing
evidence.
B
They
had
a
few
bumps.
I
did
have
to
reach
out
to
deb
when
she
was
still
there.
There
have
been
a
couple
times
when
I've
reached
out,
and
I
haven't
heard
back,
but
you
know
they
have
been
in
this
transition
time
with
getting
a
new
executive
director.
B
Dave
has
been
responsive
like
when
I
sent
him
this.
He
he
responded,
he
asked
questions
and
so
on.
So
I
wouldn't
say
I
mean
I
think,
whatever
difficulties
they
had
were
surmountable.
I
think
that
we
could,
you
know
now
get
in
touch
with
the
executive
director
if
they
had
any
trouble
building.
B
I
will
say-
oh
sorry,
I
will
say
I
was
a
little
confused
when
I
spoke
to
him
on
the
phone.
He
said
that
they
were
interested
in
perhaps.
B
The
staffing
part,
I
thought
that
they
were
going
to
perhaps
try
to
engage
another
pier
to
work
alongs
up
here
to
work
alongside
richard
rivera.
That's
what
he
originally
discussed
and
he
originally
discussed
a
stipend.
If
it
was
a
stipend,
that's
a
little
difficult
to
do
with
hud.
I
would
suggest
that
they,
unless
it's
an
economic
development
activity,
there's
not
a
lot
of
guidance
from
hud,
but
I
would
suggest
that
they
put
them
on
the
payroll.
B
That
was
going
to
be
something
I
reach
out
to
him
about,
but
then
the
application
came
through
and
they
weren't
discussing
up
here
they
were
discussing
extending
mr
rivera's
hours,
and
I
think
it
is
a
little
sparse
in
what
the
hours
would
be.
It's
very
intriguing
they're
thinking
about
doing
nighttime
hours,
but
he
also
said
somewhere
else
in
the
because
here
he
says:
expand
from
5
pm
to
midnight,
which
is
a
very
interesting
proposal,
but
elsewhere
the
proposed
schedule
of
work.
B
D
There's
also,
these
are
so
such
very
different
things.
There's
salary.
B
D
Okay,
yeah
yeah,
which
I
didn't
have
okay.
Let's
just
look
at
that
for
a
minute.
B
Once
yeah,
I
was
interested
in
that
now
when
I've
talked
to
the
street
outreach
team,
which
includes
an
aware
that
mr
rivera
actually
the
street
outreach
team
that
involves
all
the
outreach
workers
in
the
city.
You
know
I
talked
to
them
about
litter
and
the
state
street
corridor.
We've
talked
about
litter
or
just
garbage
in
the
encampments.
Before
it's
not
clear
to
me.
B
So
one
thing
that
is
clear
is
that
you
know
mr
rivera
actually
said
that
there
have
been
times
when
you
know
he
has
just
had
garbage
bags
with
him
or
in
his
car
and
has
engaged
a
participant
to
help
him
do
some
litter
cleanup.
So
the
garbage
tags
are
good
for
that,
but
it's.
B
What
is
clear
is
that
garbage
and
litter
have
been
a
big
problem
during
the
pandemic.
What's
not
clear
is
who
exactly
would
be
getting
the
garbage
tags
and
how
would
they
distribute
them?
I
mean
garbage
is
garbage.
I
guess
we
could
say
that,
but
you
know
you
know
anything
that
helps
decrease.
The
garbage
is
a
good
idea.
There
are
now
dumpsters
again
in
the
encampment,
so
they
don't
need
garbage
tags
there,
but
so
again,
but
they
could
use
those
you
know
if
they
if
they
wanted
to
pick
up
litter.
B
So
it's
a
little
unclear
how
they
would
use
the
garbage
tags.
D
I'm
having
a
problem
with
this
whole
thing,
because
now
I'm
looking
at
this,
and
it's
all
into
these
things,
well
how
much
where?
How
much
is
that
soap
and
suds
worth
for
how
many
people
you
know,
as
you
said,
where
the
garbage
chase
going
and
who's
using
them
a
storage
unit
and
phones
are
phones
not
paid
for
anyplace
else.
B
Okay,
I
don't
know
the
phone's
being
paid
for
necessarily
anywhere
else,
but
to
your
point
tracy.
I
did
have
questions
about
these
as
well,
and
the
bus
passes,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
coveted
tie
back
for
a
hud,
and
I
could
see
how
these
things
could
all
have
a
ho
tie
back
or
most
of
them,
but
it's
not
articulated
in
the
application
granted.
You
know,
mr
saunders
is
new
to
the
agency,
but
you
know
we
did
discuss
how
there
needs
to
be
a
covet
tie
back.
B
I
could
have
provided
more
information
if
we
wanted
it.
So
it's
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
here
in
the
budget
that
it
may
seem
like
a
little
bit,
but
we
do
need
documentation
for
the
like
covet
how
how
they
are
preventing
mitigating
preparing
for
cobit.
So
there's
that.
A
Yeah
that,
thank
you,
that's
a
very
good
point
because
I,
as
fernando
said,
I
agree
with
him
that
excuse
me,
the
application
from
oar
struck
me
as
also
the
most
impactful.
A
But
again
you
know
one
of
the
the
important
things
first
for
our
staff
is
to
be
able
to
to
tie
this
to
colby,
because
we
then
have
to
answer
the
hood
in
terms
of
the
garbage
tags.
I
say:
let's
remember,
that
oer
just
doesn't
support
folks
who
are
housed
in
the
or
homeless.
Rather
in
the
jungle
they
have
the
the
property
on
west
buffalo
street.
C
A
So
you
know
the
garbage
tag.
The
cost,
for
that
is
extra,
as
is
the
bus
passes
in
the
phones
for
people
who
need
to
a
phone,
for
you
know
just
general
communication
or
for
work,
so
it
makes
sense
in
terms
of
their
clients.
But
again,
how
do
you
tie
that
to
to
copeland?
You
know
prevention
and
that's
that's
a
big
issue
here
with
this
application,
but
just
in
terms
of
impact
on
most
vulnerable
populations.
C
D
I
wasn't
that
impressed
with
these
applications,
but
maybe
it's
because
I
was
missing
pages,
but
I
I
would
want
better
documentation
on
this.
I
I'm
not
disagreeing
that
it
could
be
the
most
impactful,
but
I
I
want
to
know
how
this
is
going.
What
are
we
talking
about?
What
needs
to
be
documented
here,
especially
when
it's
coming
back
to
the
office
and
everybody
has
to
check
off
these
boxes.
This
is
a
lot
of
different
boxes
to
check
off.
E
Steve
you
know
I
mean
I
I
I
feel
differently
about
this,
and-
and
I
would
because,
because
I'm
thinking
that
child
care
probably
has
the
biggest
impact
in
terms
of
of
covet
related
things
in
just
having
someone
available
that
will
help
them
to
increase
the
number
of
students
that
they
can
provide
child
care.
I
mean
families
that
they
can
provide
child
care
too.
So
I
mean
that
that's
why
I
was.
I
asked
a
specific
question
about:
are
we
competing
against?
E
Are
these
people
competing
against
one
another
for
this
funding,
because
I
I
personally
feel
the
child
care
deserves
it
a
little
bit
more
than
say
the
oar.
I
mean
I
I
happen
to
live
near
part
of
the
jungle,
and
I
see
the
impact
of
of
what's
going
on.
E
And
I
don't
really
see
anything
within
this
budget
that
would
change
what's
happening.
Offseason
alone
drive.
D
My
original
inclination
was
for
child
care
too,
but
again
I
don't
think
it's
that
well
documented.
I
mean
I
think
that
the
big
issue
has
been
not
enough
staff
to
enroll
as
many
children
as
possible,
and
I
just
somehow
that
just
going
back
and
forth
to
the
classrooms
doesn't
sound
like
quite
enough
and
I'm
not
impressed
with
paying
more
for
ppe
at
this
point,
but
I
I
agree
I
mean,
I
think,
in
terms
of
covid
there's
been
a
tremendous
impact
on
child
care.
E
When
they
see
some
malone
drive,
it's
the
dumpster,
is
there
it's
a
large
container
and
it's
I
mean
it's
difficult
to
to
determine
whether
or
not
they're
using
it.
I
mean
there
is
stuff
in
in
the
containers,
but
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
on
the
ground.
So
it's
it's
really
hard.
To
tell
I
mean
I
see
once
in
a
while
somebody
dragging
something
to
the
container,
but
it's
a
mess,
and
I
and
it's
growing,
which
is
I.
D
D
Well,
cherries
going
down
cherry
street,
it's
a
big
giant
mess.
I
mean
there's
right
next
to
the
water.
I
I
don't
see
that
as
a
good
thing,
but
I
don't
know
I
mean
I'm
not
feeling
like
any
of
these
proposals
were
that
strong.
But
that's
me:
okay,.
B
So
let
me
just
also
jump
in
with
some.
I
don't
know
if
it'll
clarify,
but
they
did
have
a
limited
time
to
do
the
proposal
and
last
time
we
spoke.
Actually.
I
was
a
little
concerned
because
I
was
giving
them
this
old
application.
That's
multi-pages,
because
I
thought
that
would
make
it
easier
for
them,
but
you
did
say
to
me
last
time:
you
know
we
don't
want
them
to
have
to
do
a
word
like
two
written
pages.
A
C
B
All
told
it's
not
that
many
much
writing
they
had
to
do,
but
you
know
we
we
did
put
some
limits
on.
You
know
we
didn't
say
it
had
to
be
the
most
thorough
proposal
we
can
reach
out
with
questions.
I
did
already
reach
out
to
them
with
some
questions
as
to
the
dumpsters,
in
addition
to
the
cecil
malone
one.
I
think
that
they're,
so
I
had
heard
that
at
the
street
outreach
meeting
I
just
went
to
or
was
it
the
coc
meeting
there
they've
deployed
some
new
dumpsters.
B
My
impression
was
behind
lows:
they
had
just
put
them
there,
so
they
were
really
trying
to
encourage
people,
outreach
people
to
encourage
encampment
residents
to
use
them.
I
want
to
just
underline
that
not
all,
as
carl's
already
said,
not
all
of
oer's
clientele
are
homeless.
In
fact,
only
a
portion
of
them
are.
B
I
do
believe
that,
because
you
know
homeless,
folks
have
a
lot
of
needs
so,
especially
in
terms
of
health,
so
I
think
that's
why
they
extended
hours
if
they
could
do,
but
what's
unclear
to
me
from
their
application,
is
how
solid
is
that
plan
to
do
the
extended
hours,
because
extended
hours
would
be
something
quite
different
again,
I
don't
know
that
they
would
be
able
to
meet
health
needs
during
those
extended
hours.
B
That's
another
question
the
dicc
proposal
to
fernando's
point
I
mean
I
think
it
is
a
good
question:
could
a
volunteer
parent
help
walk
the
kids
back
and
forth?
However,
they
are
licensed
child
care,
so
their
staff
members
have
to
have
a
certain
level
of
certification,
I'm
not
sure
where
volunteerism
comes
in.
I
think
it's
a
little
different
than
my
co-op
nursery
school.
When
I
was
a
kid,
I'm
not
sure
so
we
can
reach
out
and
find
out
more,
and
I
guess
thirdly
yeah.
B
I
understand
that
perhaps
there
isn't
the
same
level
of
detail
and
or
just
detail
that
you
would
all
like.
I
guess.
Yes,
we
could
delay
doing
this,
but
part
of
the
reason
we're
looking
to
reprogram.
These
funds
is
so
that
they
can
get
expended
by
when
hud
wants
them
expended
and
yeah.
We,
charles
still
has
other
applications
he's
I
mean
other
contracts
he's
working
on
very
complicated
ones,
right
now,
the
north
side,
one
and
so
on.
B
So
you
know
it's
a
timeline
thing
as
well.
You're
saying
please
don't
extend.
No,
I'm
not
saying
that
I'm
not!
I!
I
just
want
to
say
I
I
I'm
trying
to
acknowledge
all
the
constraints,
and
I
understand
that
this
isn't
like
the
most
perfect
process.
That's
all,
but
you
if
you
want
to
extend,
of
course,
that's
your
prerogative.
A
So
I
didn't
hear
any
or
not
any
enthusiasm
for
the
catholic
charities.
Application
of
the
three
it
sounds
like
the
catholic
charities
is
number
three
and
it's
really
between
oar
and
the
icc.
A
Is
that
accurate?
I
mean
sort.
D
B
C
C
C
C
C
A
Do
have
questions
about
oar
and
the
icc,
so
the
question
is:
do
we
ask
anissa
to
reach
out
to
them
to
answer
those
questions,
and
we
could
and
we've
done
this
before
once
we
get
the
answers,
those
questions
then
by
email
kind
of,
despite
because
we
do
have
the
the
action
item,
the
resolution
that
we'll
need
to
plug
an
agency
name
in
or
we
could
just
make
a
decision
now.
A
But
I
I
you
know,
given
the
questions
we
have
it
would
seem
to
be,
it
would
be
fairer
to
get
the
answers
to
those
questions
to
to
kind
of
fully
fill
out.
The
picture
for
us
before
making
a
decision.
D
Okay,
I
guess
my
biggest
questions
are
about
oar
and
my
biggest
questions
are
how
you
know
when,
when
we
get
down
to
that
last
budget
thing,
there
are
so
many
different
categories.
I
want
to
know
how
many
people
are
being
or
what
what
is
really
going
on
with
that
and
what
was
the
storage
unit
for
again.
A
B
C
B
B
B
However,
at
the
same
time,
I
would
say
that
if
you
were
looking
at
these
applications
in
the
context
of
a
regular
review
session,
where
there
was
a
really
firm
deadline,
I
mean
I
guess
in
a
regular
review
session.
You
do
have
me
reach
out
and
then
the
next
month
you
you
come
and
look
at
it
again.
So
there
is
that
or
the
next
week.
I
I
guess
for
I
I
guess,
if
you're
asking
me
I
would
prefer
I
would.
B
B
However,
like
I
said
you
know,
this
is
really
up
to
you
and
if
you
feel
like
there's
just
not
enough
information
or
they're,
not
the
the
applications
are
not
detailed
enough
for
you
to
make
the
decision
or
for
any
other
reason
you
want
to
wait.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
A
D
B
Well,
I
will
say
that
all
three
of
them
were
very
appreciative
for
being
reached
out
to,
and
I
will
say
that
oer
had
the
least
amount
of
time,
because
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
that
mr
saunders
was
in
that
position
and
I
couldn't
get
his
email
from
their
website,
and
so
then
I
emailed
him
and
then
it
took
him
a
minute.
So
I
will
say
that
oar
perhaps
had
the
least
amount
of
time
to
do
it.
B
At
the
same
time
I
mean
and
he's
new,
but
the
application
is
not
as
detailed
as
I'd
like
to
see
it
be,
especially
in
regard
to
if
they're
expanding
the
outreach
hours,
which
I
think
is
a
very
interesting
idea,
how
it
ties
back
to
covet.
I
think
that
they're
talking
about
dealing
with
real
needs,
and
he
did
say
that
there
has
been
an
uptick
in
the
number
of
clients
that
they're
seeing
like
non-duplicated
they've
kept
those
numbers.
He
didn't
cite
those
in
his
application.
B
I
think
they
would
like
to
perhaps
fund
a
little
bit
of
everything
which
I
don't
think
that
they
need
to
do
that
with
this
money.
Could
they
so
there's
that
you
know
do
they
have
funds
that
they
could
shift
around
and
make
work?
Dicc
we've
talked
here
at
lake
about
how
child
care
is
a
big
need
in
the
community
dicc.
We
know
it
also
has
spent
their
funds
down
very
responsibly
and
quickly,
like
isp
immigrant
services
program.
B
B
So
I
also
wonder
if
part
of
the
you
know
that
part
of
the
ppe
is
masks-
and
I
don't
know
if
part
of
this
is
for
parents
concerns
they
want
to
make
sure
their
kids
have
a
lot
of
access,
possibly
to
the
ppe,
I'm
not
sure
so,
and
then.
Finally,
I,
when
I
talked
to
immigrant
services
program,
it
was
clear
to
me
immediately
that
they
are
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
related
to
covert
completely.
B
I
mean
on
their
own
and
because
they
see
that's
a
need
and
it
they
are
meeting
very
vulnerable
populations
yeah
I
was,
I
hadn't
thought
about
the
fact
that
they
were
gonna.
You
know
that
they've
had
a
lot
of
families
who
live
in
the
area
who
have
relatives
in
ukraine
that
they're
trying
to
help
now
so
they're,
always
working
with
new
populations
in
an
addition
to
the
the
people
that
they
work
with,
I
think
more
regularly.
A
And
you
know,
I
will
note
that
in
oar's
application
in
the
narrative
they
do
tie
the
budget
items
to
health,
but
it's
not
necessarily
culver
related,
so
having
ifs
so,
for
example,
someone's
homeless
and
they
have
a
medical
issue
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
it
may
take
them
away
from
their
encampment
for
a
long
period
of
time,
at
least
there's
a
place
where
it
could
be
stored.
A
A
So
you
know
they
do,
tie
it
to
medical,
but
again,
not
necessarily
colbin
related.
So
you
know
the
question
still
remains:
how
does
this
tie
to
colvin
so
that
that's
a
little
there's
some
justification?
A
I
think
in
the
narrative
which
is,
I
think,
is
the
page
23,
the
second
page
of
their
application
steve.
I.
E
Mean
in
defense
of
of
the
drop-in
center
honey-
I
I
don't
have
any
personal
connection
to
the
drop-in
center.
I
just
happened
to
be
a
grandparent,
and
my
grandchildren
were
home
for
the
past
two
weeks
from
bringing
home
covid
from
a
a
school.
I
mean
my
oldest
granddaughter
brought
home
kovit
from
her
last
day
at
school.
E
So
it's
something
that's
happening
and
being,
and
the
regulations
that
I
see
for
my
grandchildren
is
that
they
actually
have
to
stay
home
once
covet
is
being,
as
has
been
determined
in
school.
So
there's
a
lot
of
precautions
that
need
to
be
taken
that
need
to
come
up
in
relation
to
covid
in
a
daycare
center.
My
youngest
grandchild
had
a
little
mask.
I've
never
seen
anything,
this
small,
the
kn
95
mass
that
would
fit
over
her
face
which,
but
she
wore
it.
E
You
know
it's
just
so
I
mean
the
ppe
and
I
don't
think
that
I
could
just
go
out
here
and
find
a
mask
that
would
fit
a
two-year-old
at
the
local
group
at
the
local
grocery
store
or
the
local
drugstore.
E
A
Yep,
so
we
a
couple
of
options
here,
nissa
suggested
one
that
you
know
she
did
send
out
a
couple
of
emails
and
we
could
table
this
discussion
for
now
go
on
in
our
agenda
and
see
if
we
get
an
answer
by
the
time.
A
Excuse
me
by
the
time
we
discuss
the
other
items
or
we
could
see
if
we
are
able
to
reach
a
decision
on
one
of
the
three
applications
now
and
move
on
to
the
the
resolution
and.
A
Put
a
name
in
in
it,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
think
let's
see
if
we
can
get
a
consensus.
A
D
Why
ask
me
I'm.
D
Why
do
I
have
to
be
first,
I
I
I
would
be
comfortable,
I
mean
we
might
also
say
what
we're
leaning
to
right
now.
At
this
point,
I
would
lean
toward
daycare.
E
Okay,
steve,
I
am
I'm
in
agreement
with
tracy.
I
think
that
I've
already
mentioned
that
I'm
in
agreement
with
big
daycare.
C
I
think
the
most
practical
application,
I
think,
someone
from
catholic
charities,
but
I
would
not
oppose
funding
the
daycare
project.
So
you
know
if
others
want
that,
I'm
I'm
on
it.
I'm
with.
E
And
then
I'll
make
the
motion
that
we
extend
the
funding
the
additional
funding
to
the
drop-in
center.
D
C
A
So
let
me
ask
the
question
that
before
we
vote,
do
we
wish
to
wait
until
we
get
and
see
if
we
get
the
answers
back
from
the
director,
anissa
did
email
her
for
some
clarifications
or
it
sounds
like
we
may
be
comfortable
just
on
the
strength
of
what
we've
seen
so
far
in
our
discussion
going
ahead
with
a
vote.
B
Sorry
about
that,
I
think
you
actually
came
up
with
more
questions
after
I
emailed
her,
so
I
can
email
her
more.
I
think
the
question
I
asked
her
sorry
I'm
having
a
little
trouble
moving.
This
is
the
question
I
asked
it
has
to
do
with
ppe,
which
was
it
oh
no
actually
was,
is
dicc
fully
enrolled,
and,
if
not,
is
this
due
to
covered
protocols
or
another
reason,
so
I
can
I'm
now
emailing
her
again.
A
Well,
as
steve
mentioned
the
ppe,
and
is
this-
I
guess
for
one
better
term
specialized
pve
for
specifically
for
youth
or
for
for
little
kids,
actually
versus
stuff.
You
can
just
go,
go
and
purchase
and
the
documentation
of
any
ppe,
as
you
mentioned
me,
so
that
that
might
be
a
concern
that
you
know.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
can
be
documented.
D
B
Know
hard
just
to
let
you
know
the
questions
I
have
is:
could
volunteer
aid
in
some
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
creating
kids,
or
is
this
a
regulatory
barrier
more
detail
on
ppe?
Is
there
special
pve
needed
for
this
population
since
there's
now
more
evidence
that
covetous
airborne
transmission?
Is
there
still
a
need
for
certain
kinds
of
ppe?
B
D
The
other
thing
is,
the
ppe
can
also
relate
to
the
providers
sure,
because
true.
C
D
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
propose
that
so
we
have
a
a
motion,
a
second
or
third
or
I'm
sorry,
a
motion
in
a
second.
I
propose
that
we
table
the
vote
for
now
and
and
postpone
it
to
the
end
of
the
meeting.
E
A
B
Krista
is
her
position.
I
don't
know
if
it's
still
the
same
as
administrative
assistant,
their
new
director
doesn't
arrive.
I
believe
until
the
11th
she
said
on
the
application.
A
All
right,
then,
let's
table
this
for
now
we'll
come
back
to
to
our
vote.
Is
that
all
right,
yep,
okay,
all
right
and
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
the
policies
and
procedures?
Excuse
me
for
a
tenant-based
rental
assistance
program,
anissa.
B
Yeah,
this
is
a
fun
one.
Okay,
let
me
get
it
on
your
screen,
so.
D
Can
I
ask
this
one
question
first
yeah
so
right
now
our
our
catholic
charity
security
deposits
fall
into
this
category
and
also.
B
Of
yes,
that's
correct,
so
sorry
this
doesn't
want
to
come
up
on
my
screen.
Let
me.
B
I
know
I
agree
right
yeah
true,
so
the
main
reason
that
we're
doing
not
the
main
reason,
the
reason
that
we
decided
to
put
together
a
handbook
is
because
there
are
a
lot
of
regulations
which
you
know
are
certainly
available
to
the
program
sponsors
who
have
projects
that
are
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
B
Also,
you
know
as
as
we
during
the
pandemic
as
we
attended,
because
hud
was
really
emphasizing
tenant-based
rental
assistance
as
a
strategy
during
the
pandemic
for
for
just
to
reading
it
to
the
community
and
the
hub
reviewed
a
lot
of
the
regulations
and
various
webinars
and
so
on.
B
So
it
just
became
clear
to
us
that
that
we
would
like
to
see
just
that
there
needed
to
be
more
clarity
in
the
programs
that
we
were
sponsoring
and
that
there
needed
to
be
a
ready
reference
for
people
so
that
we
could
ensure
that
everybody
was
being
compliant
so
yeah.
We,
we
feel
it
that
it.
You
know
in
reviewing
how
the
particularly
the
not
the
security
deposits,
but
the
actual
rental
assistance
program
are
working.
B
They
will
need
to
make
some
changes
to
their
program
to
realign
with
what
the
regulations
actually
say.
So
it
is
important
that
we
have
this
document.
We've
already
had
those
discussions
with
the
learning
web.
They
are
working
on
that,
but
yeah
there's
there's
a
need
for
this.
B
So
if
you
want
me
to
summarize
particularly
what
the
issues
are,
one
is
that
tenants
who
are
receiving
tenant-based
rental
assistance
need
to
have
choice,
so
they
need
to
know
that
they
can
go
out
into
the
community
and
if
they
can
find
a
landlord
that
will
accept
their
subsidy
for
the
learning
web,
and
if
that
landlord's
unit
will
pass
the
inspection,
then
that
could
be
an
option
for
learning
web
youth
so
or
they
can
be
offered.
You
know
apartment
the
learning
lab
already
has
available,
so
they
need
to
know
that
there's
choice
there.
B
The
learning
web
already
had
the
document
included
with
their
with
their
agreement,
with
the
the
youth
that
so
the
youth
knows,
and
the
landlord
needs
to
know
that
the
youth
can.
The
landlord
cannot
ask
the
youth
to
waive
certain
rights
or
any
anybody
that
receives
database
rental
assistance
cannot
be
asked
by
the
landlord
cannot
even
sign
anything
saying
I'm
going
to
waive
my
rights.
You
know,
if
I
you
know,
if
there
becomes
an
eviction
hearing,
I'm
going
to
waive
my
right
to
go
to
court
any
of
that
they
cannot.
B
So
they
already
had
that
in
place,
but
the
the
lease
itself
needs
to
be
with
the
youth
and
the
landlord
which
the
one
of
the
attractive
things
about
the
learning
was
program
was
that
it's
the
learning
web
was
leasing
and
then
it's
kind
of
a
sub
sub
lease
to
the
youth,
so
landlords,
I
think,
found
that
attractive,
because
they're
really
working
with
the
learning
web.
B
Another
thing
that
we've
suggested,
which
is
very
common
in
this
college
town,
is
all
of
you
know
that
the
learning
web
could
be
act
as
a
third
party
or
guarantor
for
the
lease
which
landlords
are
very
familiar
with
in
this
community.
So
yeah.
Those
are
the
two
main
two
main
issues
that
we
saw
and,
as
I
said,
the
learning
webs
already
working
on
this.
B
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
for
you
know,
for
the
project
sponsors
for
the
future
and
all
everything
that
we
have
a
guide,
that
it's
easy
enough
for
them
to
go
to
and
look
at.
B
D
I
had
an
a
question
about
eligible
activities
and
costs
when
it
says
the
second
and
the
third
one
security
deposits,
in
conjunction
with
rental
assistance
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
two
months
rent
for
the
unit.
But
then
it
says
security
deposits
only
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
one
month's
rent
for
the
unit
per
new
york
state
law.
Why
do
we
have
both
of
those.
B
So
good
tracy,
you
have
such
a
good
eye.
Okay,
we
discussed
this
one
actually
and
then
between
one
and
I
sent
this
and
when
we
talked
about
or
when
you
got
this
so
we're
changing
that
to
one
month,
rent.
Okay,
I
believe
I
was
advocating
for
the
the
guide
to
spell
out
what
is
eligible.
B
A
B
The
landlord
cannot
ask
that
that
was
changed
in
the
2019
tenant
protections
bill
that
came
out.
They
limited
it
used
to
be
that
landlords
could
ask
for,
like
first
last
and
another
month,
right.
C
B
They
changed
that
because
that
ended
up
being
a
lot
of
money.
So
actually,
though,
you're
bringing
up
a
really
important
point,
carl
that
I
hadn't
thought
about-
and
I
think
nels
was
looking
at
this
from
a
different
standpoint-
that
the
security
deposit
amount
that
the
landlord
could
ask
for
had
changed.
But
that
doesn't
necessarily
so
I
think
he
was
thinking
that
we
shouldn't.
We
should
just
codify
that.
It
can't
be.
B
It's
honestly,
it's
not
that
relevant,
given
that
they
only
can
their
contract
spells
out
that
they
can
only
do
one
month's
rent
for
with
the
amount
of
money
that
we
give.
B
However,
we'll
clarify
that,
so
it's
consistent
in
the
in
the
handbook
and.
C
B
All
these
protections
went
into
effect
like
right
before
the
pandemic
side.
Note.
So,
as
a
result,
it's
been
hard
to
see
kind
of
what
the
what
the
impact
of
them
has
been,
because
people
have
been
in
their
in
their
units
not
being
able
to
move.
C
A
There
are
some
providers
of
group
homes
so,
and
I
can't
remember,
remember
the
name
of
the
the
residents,
but
catholic
charities
has
the
home
for
women.
You
supported
supportive
housing.
B
Transitional
housing
is
not
eligible
for
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
There
needs
to
be
a
lease
of
at
least
12
months.
A
D
And
the
the
thing
we
do
with
a
place
of
our
own
is
we
fund
staff
not,
but
we've
talked
about
this
before
when
oar
was
trying
to
apply
for
tenant-based
rental
assistance
kind
of
stuff,
but
they
couldn't
sign
a
year's
lease
with
people
or
something
so
I
mean
that's
a
big
restriction.
If
you
have
to
have
a
year's
lease
and
that's
in
here
yeah.
B
You
do
have
to
canada-based
rental
assistance
and
security
deposits.
I
think
oar
came
to
us
in
two
different
ways.
One
was
to
have
rental
assistance
for
endeavor
house,
and
that
was
exactly
the
issue.
Tracy
that
you
brought
up
is
that
they,
unless
they
have
a
year's
lease,
they
can't
receive
10
tenant
based
revenue,
assistance,
and
another
factor
in
that
in
that
case
was
because
endeavor
house
is
meant
to
be
a
place
where
people
can
transition
into
another
unit.
The
idea
tenant-based
rental
assistance
is
portable
after
the
first
12
months.
B
B
If
the,
if
more
months
of
tenant
based
rental
assistance
are
being
offered,
then
the
tenant
could
take
it
somewhere
else,
but
the
first
12
months
have
to
be
in
the
same
place.
So
that
was
that
and
then
with
the
security
deposits.
When,
where
I
wanted
to
do
that,
since
cali
charities
has
this
well-developed
system
and
it's
a
lot
of
work,
they
we
suggest
that
they
make
an
agreement
with
catholic
charities
than
they
did
sorry
go
ahead.
D
I
had
a
question
about
the
sunshine
houses
that
oar
is
going
to
be
doing.
Are
those
going
to
be
years?
Leases
are
those
much
more
interim
than
that.
B
B
A
C
B
There
wasn't
a
handbook
there
would
be.
A
lot
of
this
detail
is
spelled
out
in
the
contracts
itself,
but
we
felt
like
it
would
be
good
to
have
it
as
a
handbook
all
in
one
place,
and
then
we
could
also
give
it
to,
for
example,
if
others
are
thinking
about
doing
a
program
like
this
in
the
future,
we
can
give
it
to
them
and
they
can
see
all
these
regulations
all.
B
B
C
B
Of
course,
charles
made
sure
it
was
very
nicely
formatted
and
that
there
was
a
lot
of
extra
detail
extra,
a
lot
of
extra
stuff
there
yeah
so.
A
I
did
want
to
go
back
to
to
one
of
tracy's
questions
so
on
on
under
eligible
activities
and
costs.
There
was
the
two
statements
about
security
deposits,
and
one
said
you
know
not
to
exceed
two
months
rent
for
the
unit
and
once
that
security
deposits
not
to
exceed
one
month's
rent.
What
did
we
say?
We're
going
to
do
about
that?
That
discrepancy.
B
A
The
other
thing-
and
I
guess
because
you
know
my
question
had
to
do
with
the
I
guess-
staff
in
monitoring
compliance
with
this,
which
I
guess
staff
has
been
doing
already
right
mm-hmm.
So
it's
not.
That
is
not
really
much
of
a
change.
In
fact,
it
might
make
it
easier
if
the
if
the
client
or
if
our
providers
have
this
policy
as
manual
in
hand.
B
So
yeah,
I
think
the
the
guidebook
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
something
that
we
can
both
refer
to
easily
if
there.
If
a
question
comes
up.
A
Yeah,
because
there's
so
many
providers,
or
so
many
landlords
rather
and
so
many
clients
and
having
that
consistency
under
the
policy,
I
just
wonder
how
difficult
that
has
been.
B
Well,
I
think
you
know
with
security
deposits.
I
don't
think
it's
been
difficult
at
all.
With
I
mean
questions
do
come
up,
but
there's
always
questions.
There's
always
it's
amazing
how
there
can
always
still
with
the
program
as
long
running
as
security
deposits.
There
can
still
be
a
question
that
hasn't
been
answered.
Come
up.
That
happened
just
the
other
day,
but
you
know-
and
that's
really
that's
the
volume
that
we
see
with
the
tenant-based
trial
assistance.
The
rental
assistance
is
so
confusing.
B
They
call
tibra,
you
know
whatever,
but
the
rental
assistance
where
the
rent
is
being
paid.
We
normally
when
learning
web
has
a
contract
with
us.
It's
normally
for
between
six
and
eight
individuals.
It
is
more
complicated
and
there
are.
We
have
spelled
out
more
in
this
handbook,
because,
while
security
deposits
we
will
allow
and
the
pj
the
participating
jurisdiction
can
do
this.
It
can
be
required,
the
securities
deposit
deposit
be
in
the
city
or
it
can
be
anywhere
in
the
you
know
in
the
surrounding
area.
B
We've
chosen
that,
because
we
know
it's
hard
for
people
to
find
places
in
the
city
with
the
rental
assistance,
we
want
it
to
be
in
the
city,
because
the
whole
point
of
in
our
mind,
part
of
the
point
of
the
having
rental
assistance
is
that
they're
close
to
services
they're
close
to
the
jobs
they
would
be
applying
for
etc.
B
B
B
You
know
this
is
what
you
need
to
do
now,
we're
still
going
to
be
working
with
you
but
yeah.
That
is
a
change
for
them,
so
I
don't
think
once
once
they
make
this
transition
programmatically.
I
don't
think
that
it's
going
to
I
mean
for
this
year
or
for
the
year
that
the
this
will
apply
to
which
is
2021.
B
D
D
Then
the
learning
web
picks
eligible
people
and
then
do
they
give
the
money
to
them
directly
or
do
they
give
the
money
to
them
each
month
to
pay
the
rent
I
mean
and
then
does
the
learning
web
still
have
a
guarantee
with
the
landlords,
because
I
think
that
may
be
one
of
the
things
that's
been
most
appealing
for
the
landlords.
B
Yeah,
that's
why
we're
suggesting
so
so
I
mean
you
can
look
at
it
as
all
right.
So
yes,
as
I
explained
before,
the
learning
web
has
entered
into
the
lease
with
the
landlords
in
the
past.
So
I
think
the
landlord's
like
that
master
leasing,
is
not
allowed
under
this
stream
of
money
under
home.
So
that's
why
the
landlord
needs
to
make
the
lease
with
the
youth,
but
the
learning
web
can
be
a
guarantor.
Just
like
what
you
talked
about
tracy.
The
learning
web
is
still
involved.
The
money
does
go
to
the
learning
web.
B
B
I
can't
speak
to
hud's
exact
thinking
on
this,
but
I
can
speak
from
the
perspective
of
the
learning
web.
Is
you
know
it's
not
necessarily
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
learning.
What
but
having
the
youth
signed.
The
lease,
in
my
mind,
aligns
with
the
program's
goals,
which
is
familiarizing
the
the
the
youth
with
all
aspects
of
renting
right,
whereas
when
the
learning
web
signs
the
lease
their,
the
youth
isn't
necessarily
reviewing
that.
So
so
what
exactly
changes?
B
I
don't
know
if
I've
answered
your
question,
the
landlord
still
gets
the
money
from
the
learning
web.
The
landlord
and
the
learning
web
can
still
have
a
you
know,
a
third
agreement.
You
know
the
learning
web
acting
as
a
guarantor
if
the
landlord
wants
that.
So
the
change
is
that
the
youth
needs
explicitly
know
that
they
have
choice.
If
the
youth
can
find
a
unit,
that's
acceptable
that
the
landlord
will
accept
their
tibra,
then
they
need
to
have
a
choice.
To
do
that
now.
B
D
But
in
reality
the
learning
web
is
still
paying
the
landlord
directly.
Yes,
we've
now
put
the
tenant
in
as
signing
the
lease
or,
if
you
could
always
say
to
them,
if
they
wanted
to
find
something
else
that
would
agree
to
have
this
form
of
payment.
Okay.
So
it's
kind
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
technicality.
D
D
B
Well,
one
would
hope
one
would
hope
right,
and
I
think
that
I
mean
this
is
where
I
think
the
the
learning
web
is
feeling
on.
You
know
probably
feeling
discomfort,
because
the
landlords
have
been
you
know:
they've
worked
with
it's
like
they.
You
know,
I
I
think
any
kind
of
change
represents.
B
D
B
Yeah
yeah
so,
and
that
in
this
community
there's
been
a
lot
of
this
is
separate
from
the
whole
t-bird
situation,
but
that's
something
in
this
community
that
people
have
really
been
trying
to
change.
I
don't
know
how
changeable
it
is
because
the
landlords
are
used
to
doing
it
and
they
like
doing
that.
But
what
students
find
all
the
time
is
that,
like
they've,
just
moved
in
it's
not
even
been
winter,
yet
they
haven't
even
realized
that
their
heat
isn't
working
and
suddenly
they've
signed
a
lease
for
next
year
with
the
with
the
landlord.
A
Yeah
so
for
catholic
charities
and
any
other
security
deposit
assistance
programs
that
may
come
about.
Is
there
any
increased
burden
on
them?
It
doesn't.
B
Look
like
it
not
that
I
could
tell
it
seems
like
their
programs
already.
They
are
ready
to
come
to
us
if
they're
going
to
be
giving
a
security
deposit
outside
the
county
and
that's
what
this
handbook
is
also
saying
that
that
they
do
that's
not
a
hud
regulation.
We
we
have
that
as
our
own,
so
I
can't
see
anything
really
that
would
change
for
catholic
charities.
A
Are
there
other
questions
regarding
this
policy?
I
mean
it's
a
quite
a
huge
job
here
that
anissa
and
charles
and
nelson
had
done
all
right.
So
if
no
further
questions,
we
have
a
resolution.
That's
on
page
49
of
our
agenda.
A
To
accept
the
for
the
agency
to
adopt
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance
policies
and
procedures,
handbook.
A
B
A
D
Think
it
makes
sense
to
move
it
to
a
whereas
and
then
somehow
adjust
this
last
one.
You
know
but
yeah,
I'm
comfortable
with
it,
as
approved
by
the
council,.
D
D
A
B
Okay,
so
again,
this
is
for
me,
so
there
have
been
some
changes,
the
main
one
that
we
talked
about
last
time,
where
it
says
no
down
here
under
cdbgcv
for
salvation
army
in
future.
Grant
summaries
you'll
see
that
that
leftover
funding
was
reprogrammed
by
whatever
you
decide,
but
other
than
that
other
I
don't
know
if
people
had
other
questions.
D
I
I
just
said
one
about
the
cv.
I
mean
the
covet
activities,
there's
still
a
number
that
haven't
spent
money.
B
B
Yeah,
so
the
going
down
this
list,
obviously
the
inhs,
their
leftover
funding-
is
being
reprogrammed
right
now
the
oer
is
now
done
with
their
original
it
doesn't.
I
don't
think
it's
reflected
on
this
one,
but
they're
done
with
their
original
vouchering.
I
think
it
cares
about
opening
is
reprogramming.
B
That's
child
development,
council
catholic
charities
is
done.
The
icc
has
done
salvation
army,
it's
been
reprogrammed,
a
reach,
they
they
really
need
a
voucher,
and
I
have
been
in
touch
with
them
and
it's
gonna
be.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
bit
of
a
slog
just
because
I
think
they
they
are
doing
a
lot
as
an
organization
and
they
have
like
very
small
staff.
Proportionally
catholic
charity
security
deposits
for
safer
housing.
We
were
just
discussing.
B
They
have
like
a
couple
more
that
they're
going
to
be
sending
through
then
in
all
likelihood,
they'll
be
returning
some
money
for
or
not
returning,
we'll
be
reprogramming
some
of
their
money,
probably
a
few
thousand
dollars
worth
the
advocacy
center.
I
have
a
meeting
with
heather
right
after
this
this
meeting.
Again,
I
think
it's
a
documentation
issue,
that's
what
she
said.
B
We
will
be
getting
their
quarterly
report
in
a
few
days
on
the
15th,
but
again,
I'm
in
pretty
regular
contact
with
harry,
so
I'll
ask
him
again
why
they
haven't
vouchered,
but
that
was
why
they,
ultimately,
we
didn't
reach
out
to
them
asking
if
they
wanted
to
submit
a
proposal
because
they
really
haven't
vouched.
Yet
they
are
in
contact,
though
market
discounts
don't
know
why
they
haven't
vouchered,
oh
actually,
they
had
vouchered
and
kelly.
B
When
I
asked
her
what
was
going
on
she,
she
asked
me,
and
apparently,
charles
and
kim
both
had
a
question
for
them
and
they
were
that's
what
was
holding
up
that
voucher,
but
they
they
are,
they
have
submitted
their
first
voucher.
B
Hvac
is
what
I
told
you
st
john's
we've,
given
them
30
days
till
the
end
of
july,
to
tell
us
a
strategy
for
how
they
intend
to
they.
They've
had
some
problems
like
I
said,
documenting
their
davis
bacon
compliance,
we
cannot
pay
them,
reimburse
them
even
for
work.
That's
been
done
if
they
did
not
document
their
davis,
bacon,
their
subcontractors,
davis,
bacon
compliance,
so
they're,
working
on
that
the
youth
programming
and
community
outreach
worker.
Those
are
mou's
that
we
just
need
to
get
signed
by
the
city.
It's
not
the
city's
fault.
B
It's
ours,
we're
just
like
so
many
other
things
happening
all
the
staff
members
and
I
have
kind
of
bounced
that
one
around
it's
basically
99
there.
So
I
think
that
that
that
those
have
already
been
expended.
We
just
need
to
get
the
mou
out
there
thanks
a
lot
in
detail.
Don't
know
if
you
wanted
that
level
of
detail.
C
A
Fine
and
just
for
clarification,
I
know
that
the
davis
bacon
regulations
have
to
do
with
the
wage.
B
A
The
the
workers
have
paid
is
it
so
the
subcontractors
have
to
demonstrate
the
wage
amount.
Is
that
so
that's
what
st
john's
was
waiting
for
to
get
that
paperwork
back
from
the
subcontractors.
B
Yeah
exactly
exactly
that
unless
unless
the
subcontractor
is
a
sole
proprietor
so-
and
there
are,
does
allow
like
for
there
to
be
corrected,
payroll
corrected
certified
payroll.
So,
if
there's
like,
if,
for
some
reason,
that's
the
hang
up,
they
could
go
through
a
correction
process.
Is
our
understanding.
A
All
right
before
we
I'm
sorry
any
questions
about
any
other
questions.
Regarding
the
grant
summary.
A
Okay,
and
so
before
we
go
back
to
our
motion
on
the
reprogram
funds
staff
report,
anissa.
B
Sure,
okay,
the
gi
gym
project-
I
just
emailed
city
engineer
tim
loge
about
that
again-
haven't
heard
back
still
on
hold
for
the
time
being,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
but
we
encourage
them
and
they
know
that
we'd
like
them
to
let
us
know
the
soonest
earliest
opportunity.
Inhs
had
an
open
or
it's
having
an
open
house
this
weekend.
I
hope
you
all
got
that
invitation
this
weekend
or
next.
B
Oh
I'm
sorry
yeah
the
weekend
of
the
15th
16th
yeah,
so
110
auburn.
I
know
you've
all
shown
a
lot
of
interest
in
that
I
contacted
julie,
holcomb
about
posting
the
various
committees,
vacancies
on
like
the
city
newsletter
type
things.
I
was
told
by
julie
that
they've
discontinued
this
newsletter.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
bulletin,
you
were
talking
about
that.
You
got
or
you
used
to
get
tracy,
but
she
said
that
they
would
post
it
in
their
other
channel
social
media
and
some
other
places.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
so
I,
but
if
there's
something
more
specific,
that
wasn't
the
city
newsletter
that
you
were
talking
about
tracing
you
want
to.
Let
me
know
I'll
find
out
from
her,
but
as
usual,
she's
very
responsive
and
willing
to
do
that.
B
Also
in
following
up
with
another
conversation,
we
had
about
outreach
to
new
applicants.
I
did
reach
out
to
yes
mean
an
unbroken
promise
initiative
who
was
responsible,
she's,
the
one
that
submitted
the
application
to
the
action
plan
this
year
to
see
if
she
wanted
to
get
together
over
the
summer
to
discuss
any
other
activities
that
they
might
be
looking
at,
get
some
technical
assistance
in
advance.
B
I
haven't
heard
back
so
I'll,
probably
give
her
another
week
or
so
and
then
reach
out
again,
and
it
is
on
the
agenda
to
visit
no
musligramas.
We
had
talked
about
that.
She-
and
I
had
talked
about
that
and
various
things
happened
wasn't
able
to
make
it
happen.
Also
I'm
recovering
from
code
right
now,
so
I
can't
do
it
for
a
little
bit,
but
I
will
do
that
when
I
can.
B
B
C
C
A
B
She
says:
we've
returned
to
allowing
volunteers
in
classrooms
and
have
welcomed
back
interns.
However,
to
greet
and
escort
a
child
independently,
an
individual
must
be
cleared
by
the
office
of
family
services,
our
licensor
specific
to
ppe,
although
the
community
doesn't
require
masking
because
we
care
for
the
population
which
has
just
become
eligible
for
vaccination
vaccination.
We
continue
to
mask
our
staff
and
the
presence
of
children
indoors.
So
we
stock
masks
and
sanitizers,
as
well
as
maintain
our
pandemic
protocols
to
include
frequent
hand
washing
and
sanitation
services
to
reduce
the
sharing
of
germs
and
illnesses.
C
A
Okay,
so
our
motion
was
moved
by
steve
seconded
by
tracy
and
our
I'm
sorry,
I
forget
what
page
are
that
resolution
was
on.
Let's
see
if
I
can
get
back.
A
So
our
so
the
resolved
paragraph
is
that
the
committee
recommends
that
the
cdbgsdb
funds
in
the
amount
of-
and
this
may
change,
but
in
the
resolution,
the
amount
of
17
475
dollars
be
reprogrammed
for
downtown
ithaca
child
care
center,
showing
him
the
name
to
be
carried
or
I'm
sorry.
The
project
name,
which
is
I'm
not
sure
what
the
project
name
is.
But
the
sponsor
would
be
dicc.
C
A
Whatever
they
said,
the
project
name
was
but
the
drcc.
So
we
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
any
further
discussion.
A
A
C
A
And
unless
there's
further
business,
I
think
we
are
done.
This
resolution,
of
course,
will
go
to
the
ira
board
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
month.
Don't
anticipate
any
issues,
concerns
from
the
board
on
this.
A
Yeah,
oh
and
the
one
thing
I
will
say
you
know
we
are
still
please
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
we
are
looking
for
someone
else
to
join
us,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know
that
eric
rosario
had
resigned
for
the
iurra
board,
and
so
the
mayor
has
appointed
donna
fleming
as
the
new
ira
board.
A
Member
donna
fleming
was
a
common
council
rep
and
I
don't
remember
what
war
she
represented,
but
or
how
long
ago
it
was,
but
I
I
know
her
name
from
when
she
was
on
council,
but
we
are
still
looking
for
a
committee
member.
So
if
you
oh,
I
should
also
mention
that
the
economic
development
committee
is,
I
believe,
also
still
looking
for
at
least
one
member.
So
as
you
you
know,
go
about
your
business,
try
to
think
of
folks
who
might
want
to
be
on
either
of
the
committees.