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A
All
right
so
we'll
call
our
meeting
to
order.
I
think
anissa,
you
just
say
nails
will
be
joining
us
at
some
point
too.
A
B
A
All
right
and
is
there
anyone
from
the
public
denise
waiting
to.
A
Because
we
didn't
meet
last
month,
we
have
minutes
from
two
previous
meetings.
A
A
The
next
is
january,
2021
minutes
I'll
move
that
we
accept
those
minutes.
A
Okay
and
now
we
have
our
guest,
let's
see
delia
has
joined
us
and
lynn
is
here
and
nels
is
here
too.
So
I
guess
we're
going
to
hear
from
you
first
delia
good
morning.
E
Morning,
hi,
everybody!
Sorry
of
course,
my
one
computer
video
wasn't
working.
So
now,
I'm
on
my
cell
phone.
So
hopefully
you
can
hear
me:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
great,
so
I
just
wanted
to
report
to
you
all
since
we've
been
administering
the
emergency
rental
funds
for
quite
a
while.
E
Now
that
you
know
the
program's
going
okay,
we
expected
there
to
be
overwhelming
demand
for
this
and
the
money
to
go
out
the
door
immediately
and
that
hasn't
been
how
it's
shaken
out,
despite
a
lot
of
outreach
efforts
and
efforts
to
streamline
the
program
for
applicants
and
make
it
easier,
and
so
we
were
just
coming
to
you
to
present
a
proposal
to
allow
this
specific
funding
can
go
increase
the
number
of
months
served,
and
so
we
wanted
to
see
if
that
was
something
that
was
within
your
basically
something
that
you
would
be
willing
to
allow.
E
For
you
know,
I
think,
with
the
federal
aid
coming
it's
likely
to
come
through.
Dss
is
at
least
the
sort
of
rumors
that
I
have,
and
so
we've
gotten
lots
of
requests
from
the
folks
that
we've
already
helped
for
more
aid,
since
the
pandemic
has
gone
on
significantly
and
my
thought
is
it's
good
to
get
this
money
spent
and
out
the
door
on
folks
who
need
it
before
the
new
funding
comes
yes,
anissa
yeah.
B
Yeah
just
a
reminder,
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
so
many
times,
but
you
already
have
the
approval
for
my
area.
To
do
that,
I
think
you
wanted
to
remove
the
asset
cap.
Yes
and.
E
E
That
is,
our
strategy
is
to
increase
the
number
of
months,
and
then
I
will
yeah
and
then
the
asset
cap
is
not
a
huge
barrier.
We
haven't
denied
a
ton
of
folks
on
it,
but
the
county
has
removed
it,
and
the
real
benefit
is
one
of
the
barriers.
E
We're
seeing
for
folks
is
getting
proof
of
assets
so
getting
copies
of
bank
statements
or
for
folks
who
only
have
money
coming
in
on
the
debit
card
that
you
get
from
unemployment,
it
can
be
difficult
for
people
to
get
that
paperwork,
so
we
would
reach
back
out
to
the
people
that
we
denied
for
the
asset
cap
and
then
the
the
the
major
benefit
would
be
to
new
applicants
that
we
would
allow
them
to
just
state
their
assets,
as
opposed
to
asking
for
proof
of
those
assets
which
is
hard
for
people
to
give
us,
no
matter
how
much
facilitating
we
try
to
do.
E
It
seems
to
slow
the
process
down
significantly,
and
so
that's
a
change.
That's
already
been
made
outside
of
the
city
for
the
county
funds,
and
we've
found
it
to
be
helpful
because
we're
just
collecting
a
little
less
documentation
from
people
makes
it
go
faster.
So
I
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
that.
B
So
as
a
reminder
from
delia
had
provided
us
with
some
information
about
city
residents
who
had
been
declined
for
the
assistance
and
about
a
third
of
them,
there
were
about
33
who
had
been
declined
at
the
time
that
we
discussed
this
and
10
of
them
have
been
declined
because
of
assets,
so
that
would
be
a
significant
for
us
and
julia.
B
Maybe
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
a
couple
times,
but
were
you
looking
for
guidance
from
the
committee
about
in
terms
of
I
know
that
you
can
go
up
to
six
months
now
and
you
had
thought
about
you
were
you
were
thinking
about
a
couple
different
ways
to
do
that
and
reaching
back
to
to
people
who
qualified.
Previously,
you
could
give
everybody
one
more
month.
You
could
get
some
people
up
to
six
months.
Did
you
want
some
guidance
from
the
group
on
that?
My.
E
Thought
was
based
on
the
amount
that
we've
spent.
Currently
I
don't
want
to
offer
the
full
six
months,
because
my
worry
is
that
we
would
not
even
be
able
to
serve
the
number
of
folks
that
we've
already
served,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
see
that
you
know
the
last
applicants
only
get
three
months
because
we
can't
hit
everybody,
and
so
my
thought
was
that,
like
looking
at
the
numbers,
what
looks
possible
is
to
offer
folks
an
additional
two
months.
E
Applications
have
slowed
a
bit,
so
we've
deployed
we've
given
rent
assistance
for
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand,
and
we
have
seventy
000
left
and
my
thought
is
if
we
offer
an
additional
two
months,
not
everybody's
going
to
take
it.
Some
of
the
folks
we've
helped
have
we've
only
helped
with
one
month,
because
they've
lost
income
due
to
a
quarantine
situation,
so
they're
really
only
lost
two
weeks
of
income,
and
so
we've
helped
with
that
month
of
rent.
So
not
everybody's
going
to
jump
on
this,
but
our
thought
is
what.
E
If
we
offer
an
additional
two
months
rent,
then
it
would
definitely
extend
to
the
folks
that
we've
helped
already
and
leave
us
with
a
little
bit
of
wiggle
room
to
help
additional
people.
You
know
I'm
not.
I
don't
have
a
sense
from
anyone
when
the
new
rent
assistance
is
coming
or
what
the
details
on
that
are.
I
wish
I
did
we're
always
flying
blind,
because
this
is
a
changing
situation,
but
my
thought
is,
it
would
be
better.
F
Just
question
sure,
so
you
plan
to
reach
out
to
the
people
that
were
initially
denied
because
of
assets
also.
F
Yep,
and
and
do
you
know
if
they'll
qualify
still
or.
E
We
won't
know
that,
because
you
know
usually,
if
we
got
that
we
stopped
collecting
documentation,
we
don't
want
people
to
give
us
a
bunch
of
documentation
when
we
can't
help
so
we'll
go
through
that
list.
When
we
did
that
for
the
county
already,
it
did
not
result
in
many
people
qualify
re-qualifying,
I
think.
Maybe
we
got
two
people
to
move
forward
and
I
forget
how
many
we
reached
out
to
for
the
county
was
probably.
E
Seven
or
ten
something
like
that,
and
so
you
know
again,
I
don't
anticipate
that
to
be
a
huge
jump
in
the
numbers
of
folks.
We're
serving
more
is
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
it'll
make
it
easier
for
people
going
forward
and
faster
for
us
to
say
yes,
because
we're
not
following
up
six
times
to
try
to
get
them
to
track
down
the
bank
statement.
E
G
E
E
Will
people
qualify
but
we're
already
sharing
information
with
dss,
so
my
plan
would
be
to
just
give
them
the
and
folks
have
signed
releases
to
do
that,
so
they
could
have
access
to
like
here
are
the
months
that
inhs
has
paid
for
these
folks
and
then
they
could
fill
in
the
blanks
if
people
qualify
for
both
sources
and
that's
sort
of
my
hope,
but
obviously
every
funding
source
has
its
own
weird
little
things
that
you
have
to
say
no
on,
and
so
you
know,
there'll
be
some
persons
for
whom
the
new
money
isn't
going
to
fit
and
our
money
will
be
the
only
money
they
have
access
to,
and
so
you
know,
having
five
months
seems
helpful
right,
yeah.
E
Yeah
yeah
yeah
we're
we're
excited
to
reach
back
out
to
people
and
give
them
the
good
news
that
they
can
get
a
little
more
help
that
that
is
always
a
fun
phone
call
to
make.
So,
yes,
we'll
get
right
on
that.
Okay,
great.
A
E
B
You
I'll
reach
out
to
you
after
the
meeting
deal
yet
to
let
you
know
what
the
result
of
this
resolution
was.
Oh.
E
E
A
All
right,
our
next
guest
is
lynn
terrain,
also
from
ithaca
neighborhood
housing
services
and
lynn's,
going
to
talk
to
us
about
the
founders
way
project
and
a
proposal
for
the
catholic
charities
building.
That's
located.
Excuse
me
within
the
proposal.
A
G
Good
morning,
so
just
to
update
people
kind
of
overall
on
the
project
we
we
got
all
of
our
funding
sources
committed
before
we
had
the
commitment
from
hcr.
G
We
had
a
session
with
them
to
ask
them
questions
about
catholic
charities
building
and
they
basically
told
us
that
the
scope
of
work
there
was
not
going
to
be
compelling
enough
for
them
to
make
an
award
of
the
cif
funds,
which
are
the
the
funds
that
they
have
for
non-residential
spaces
that
are
associated
with
affordable
housing
project,
primarily
because
there
there
was
such
limited
funding
in
this
last
round.
They
they
had.
I
forget
how
many
50
some
applications
they
have.
G
They
funded
11
in
the
entire
state,
so
they
had
just
really
restricted
amounts
of
money
and
they
did
not
want
founders
way
to
not
get
funded
as
a
whole,
because
we
had
included
the
catholic
charities
component
and
they
couldn't
fund
the
cif
portion
of
it.
So
they
basically
told
us
to
take
it
out
of
the
project
we
can.
G
Certainly,
you
know
continue
to
try
to
find
funds
and
we
will
to
do
the
renovations
to
the
building,
but
in
their
opinion
it
was
more
deferred
maintenance
and
some
kind
of
improvements
to
the
spaces
that
weren't
going
to
be
compelling
enough
to
get
funded.
G
So
that's
all
well
and
good,
except
we
purchased
the
entire
parcel
with
an
acquisition
loan
from
tompkins
trust
company
which
we
are
going
to
have
to
pay
off,
and
so
we
can't
include
the
catholic
charities
building
in
the
project
that
the
state
is
funding,
which
is
how
we
assumed
we're
going
to
pay
off
that
portion
of
the
acquisition
loan.
So
we're
look,
we're
looking
for
other
funds
to
fill
that
gap.
110
000
is
the
amount
of
value
that's
assigned
to
that
portion
of
the
overall
site,
just
on
a
basis
of
square
footage.
G
So
we
are
hoping
that
we
could
use
the
iura
funds
to
do
kind
of
the
same
procedure
that
we
did
at
south
titus,
where
the
iura
acquired
the
property
and
then
sold
it
to
us
and
therefore
financing
it
on.
You
know
a
long
longer
term
basis.
G
The
gymnastics
here
is
that
inhs
already
owns
the
property,
so
you're
going
to
be
buying
it
from
us,
we'll
be
paying
off
the
tompkins
trust
company
acquisition
loan
and
with
those
proceeds,
and
then
you'll
be
selling
it
back
to
us
so
that
we
will
be
owing
you
money
instead
of
tonka
stress
company.
D
G
A
G
A
All
right,
because
that
was
the
only
question
I
had,
because
if
we
were
to
hold
it
for
any
period
of
time
and
the
maintenance
that's
required
on
on
the
property,
whether
there
would
be
any
obligation
on
us
or
the
agency.
A
H
Hi
hi
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
update
on
why
we're
going
through
a
convoluted
process
like
this
to
do
it
because
it'll
be
much
simpler
to
just
loan
funds
directly
to
inhs
in
this
case,
but
because
we
received
proceeds
from
my
loan
payoff
of
the
kyuge
green
project,
those
were
considered
non-federal
funds,
they're
local
funds
and
our
the
agency's
authorization
to
make
loans
was
raised
as
a
question
by
the
authorities
budget
office
which
oversees
you
know,
organizations
across
the
state,
and
they
had
made
a
determination
that
the
unless
our
authorizing
legislation
specifically
authorized
loans
using
ira
funds,
they
were
not,
we
weren't
able
to
do
it
with
those
funds.
H
We
can
do
it
with
cdbg
funds
and
home
funds
and
other
funds,
but
not
our
local
funds.
So
this
is
what
we
are
authorized
specifically
in
legislation
to
acquire
property
and
to
sell
property.
So
this
is
our
approach
to
get
at
the
same
goal
by
acquiring
it
and
then
reselling
it
back
and
meeting
all
the
the
requirements
of
our
legislation
and
their
interpretation
of
our
authorities
and
limits
and
our
authority.
H
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
essentially
going
to
work
out
as
a
two
and
a
half
percent
interest
loan
that
will
provide
more
money
than
we're
earning
sitting
in
the
bank
and
advance
our
mission
of
supporting
community
development
and
affordable
housing.
D
A
So
our
agenda,
then
has
us
next.
Has
us
discussing.
Excuse
me
the
2021
action
plan,
but
I
think
it
would
probably
be
best
to
discuss
and
vote
on
the
the
two
about
the
the
two
items
we
just
heard.
A
A
Me
I'm
jumping
between
the
our
zoom
and
the
agenda.
So
sorry
about
that.
So
we
have
the
resolutions
on
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program
and
then
on
founders
way.
A
So
since
those
are
fresh
in
our
minds,
why
don't
we
take
a
look
at
those
take
a
vote
on
those.
A
A
So
this,
as
anissa
mentioned
when
we
were
talking
with
delia
the
our
let's
see
january
meeting,
we
approved
the
extension
for
the
length
of
time
to
provide
assistance.
So
this
resolution
really
just
is
to
remove
the
asset
cap.
A
F
A
F
Can
I
ask
one
thing
anisa:
can
you
make
sure
that
they
really
are
offering
the
extension
since
that
got
voted
in
january
and
it
sounded
like
it?
Hadn't
happened
yet.
A
A
Goodness,
which
is
on
page,
starts
on
page
21
of
our
packet.
A
D
A
Okay,
any
discussion,
any
questions,
paulette.
C
In
the
resolve,
should
there
be
an
amount,
the
purchase
price,
or
should
it
say
as
outlined
above
or
as
I
don't
know
it,
it
didn't
seem
as
clear
as
it
could
be.
It
seemed
to
me
maybe.
C
D
A
A
Okay,
that
yeah,
if
that's
fine
with
the
committee,
so
we'll
we'll
excuse
me
vote-
will
be
voting
on.
The
resolution
is
with
this
modified
with
this
modifications,
as
suggested
by
paul.
F
I
C
A
Some
some
suggestions
as
to
the
order
in
which
to
discuss
the
items
I
think
anissa
has
suggested.
We
start
with
public
facilities.
If
I
remember
correctly
or.
B
A
And
then
perhaps
move
on
to
economic
development,
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
the
cdbg
covet
relief
that
money
which
in
the
updated
schedule,
is
three
thousand
eighty
nine
dollars
and
sixty
cents
is.
Are
those
funds
in
hand
and
ready
to
be
dispersed?
A
B
Yes,
they
can
be
and
we
can
also
the
first
of
all
they
are.
They
are
available
and
second,
the
for
the
part
of
the
they
I'm
sorry.
B
The
public
hearing
will
occur
as
normally
with
the
action
plan,
because
we
felt
that
that
was
easiest,
but
the
comment
period
does
not
need
to
be
30
days
as
it
does
with
the
action
plan.
It
can
be
five
days
so
once
the
comment
period
is
completed,
if
ira
is
ready
to
then
bring
those
separately
to
common
council,
we
can
also
do
that.
That
would
cause,
I
think,
nelson.
I
need
to
talk
about
how
to
bring
that
to
ira,
because
there's
so
many
applications
this
year.
You
know,
but
in
any
event,
yes,
they
can
be.
F
B
Right
now,
you
know
what,
when
they
made
those
yeah,
they
didn't
at
the
federal
level,
there
wasn't
an
attached
time
frame
to
them
when
they
released
them.
However,
I
was
just
talking
to
our
hud
rep
the
other
day
and
she
did
say
that
headquarters
is
very
interested
in
seeing
those
funds
getting
covered.
F
Interested
and
required,
okay,
and
then
you
know
okay
and
did
any
of
the
original
applicants
for
this
fund
did
any
of
them
need
more
money
or
anything.
I
just
wondered
about
that
too.
B
C
B
But
none
of
the
others
like
when
I
made
my
outreach
came
back
and
said
that
they,
I
was
a
little
surprised.
Actually,
none
of
them
came
back
and
requested
more.
A
So,
given
that
hud
is
interested
in
seeing
those
funds
go
out
and
that
the
process
I
mean
the
money's
at
hand,
the
process
seems
to
be
much
quicker.
I
was
wondering,
should
we
discuss
those
one,
two,
three,
four,
five,
six
requests.
First,
as
we're
thinking
about
how
we
want
to
structure
our
discussion.
A
Is
there
an
advantage
to
kind
of
getting
those
out
of
the
way
getting
the
process
started
now,
so
the
funds
can
get
out
and
then
because
we,
you
know
then
start
talking
about
you-
know
public
facilities
and
economic
development,
etc.
B
I
didn't
know
when
I
looked
at
them
I
mean
I
think
you
can
make
a
case.
Maybe,
for
example
2-1-1
I
mean
they've
done
a
ton
of
covid
related
things
and
they're
still
going
to
be
doing.
I
think
I
think
they're
going
to
be
approached
to
do
to
help
with
the
federal
the
federal
rental
assistance
is
coming
through.
They
didn't
make
a
request
for
the
coveted
funds
that
that's
the
one
that
jumps
to
mind
that.
F
Actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
because
they,
the
coveted
questions
about
scheduling
and
applying
for
vaccination
times,
have
been
going
to
them.
Yes,.
B
Okay,
so
we
could
you,
you
all
obviously
could
make
that
recommendation
if,
if
ira
were
willing
to
support
giving
them,
I
don't
know
if
what
you
mean,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sure
you'll
discuss
of
what
that
means
is
covet
specific
funds,
but
not
their
action,
planning
funds
or
both
or
however,
you
want
to
do
it.
F
B
I
will
say
also
we
wanted
to
point
out.
It's.
I
think
it's
clearer
on
the
on
the
matrix
that
you
all
got
last
night
than
it
is
on
the
one
that
I
have,
but
there
are
some.
This
is
a
bit
might
be
a
bit
complicated
to
explain
so
bear
with
me,
but
for
funds
that
were
returned
to
iura
that
are
from
the
2019
or
2020
program
year.
B
Those
also
can
be
redesignated
for
and
act
like
cdbg
cv
funds,
so
those
can
be
redesignated
for
a
cdbg
or
for
a
code,
specific
fund
and
the
and
the
public
services
cap
to
be
removed.
So
that's
about
thirty
thousand
dollars.
If,
when
you're
reviewing
the
cdbgc
cb
applications,
you
would
like
to
give
a
little
more
up
to
30
000
more.
A
F
F
B
What
is
this,
so?
You
should
have
gotten
a
matrix
last
night
on
your
porch.
I
think
mel's
delivered
them,
and
so
we
would
have
had
a
date
that
was
3.
A
B
H
H
E
H
Didn't
get
all
the
ni
members
I
didn't
realize.
I
didn't
want
to
confuse
people
with
shifting
things
too
much
on
them,
so
we
can
certainly
make
those
available
they're
not
huge
shifts
in
the
funding,
though
it's.
B
Nels,
I
don't
know
if
you
have,
I
don't
know
if
charles
put
up
the
most
recent
matrix
on
the
website,
I'm
looking
for
it,
I
can.
I
can
do
that.
H
B
B
So
the
members
were
bringing
up
that
the
cdbg
cv
requests
far
exceed
what
was
available.
So
I
mentioned
that
this
is
an
action
that
they
can
take
and
nels.
I
just
wanted
to
advise
you
too,
that
tracy
had
asked
whether
we
could
re-categorize
any
action
plan
or
whether
anybody
applied
under
the
action
plan
could
potentially
be
eligible
for
the
cv
funds
and
the
one
that
popped
to
mind
for
me
was
2-1-1,
because
they've
done
so
much
so
the
members
had
some
interest
in
exploring
that.
A
It
seemed
to
me
it's
all:
it's
all
tied
into
our
discussion
with
the
the
current
applicants
under
the
cd.
F
A
D
D
To
move
it
to
cv,
if
that
that
seems
like
the
right
thing
to
do
or
okay.
F
A
D
F
A
So
we
meet
again
next
friday.
I
believe
it's
lost
my
dates
here.
A
Right,
the
19th,
sorry
yeah
so
next
friday.
How
far
are
how
far
are
we
trying
to
get
today
as
far
as
we
can
get
so
how
many?
So
we
talked
about
kind
of
the
order
that
we
want
to
talk
about
so
start
with
the
the
cv
projects
and
then
move
on
to
public
facilities
and
after
that.
A
F
B
Development
already
did
do
their
first
first
review.
Okay,
they.
A
B
That,
on
tuesday.
F
A
A
F
A
C
B
B
So
they
were
providing
smoothies
in
the
jungle
in
the
encampment
area.
However,
that
made
me
wonder
about
the
number
of
people
served,
because
I
don't
know
that
that's
unduplicated
funding,
I
mean
unduplicated
numbers
of
people
if
they,
because
their
method
and
how
they
mentioned
that
they
were
going
to
measure
was
by
counting
the
number
of
cups
distributed,
which
makes
sense.
But
that's
then,
how
many
servings,
not
how
many
people
were
served
over.
C
B
Been
actually
when
I
spoke
to,
I
I
so
what
I
will
say
is
so
the
harry
harry
smith,
who
manages
and
is
named
as
the
ceo.
F
B
I
spoke
to
him
over
the
summer
and
a
couple
times
since
the
summer
he
only
mentioned
going
to
the
jungle,
but
I
know
that
they
had
plans
and
they're
a
very
flexible
group,
so
it's
very
possible
to
receive.
I
Them
there
a
few
times
because
they
have
a
boom
box.
That
sort
of
attracts
me
I
mean
it
didn't
bother
me.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
project
and
I
was
it
behind
the
fire
station
or
in
st
john's
or
in
john's,
whatever
parking
lot,
one
of
those
on
the
other
side,
the
the
odd
numbered
side,
the
300
block
somewhere,
and
they
were
just
giving
away
smoothies.
I
A
Yeah,
I
would
be
surprised
even
five
weeks,
1700
people
even
at
the
jungle
that
would
be.
I
think
that
would
be
really
is
people
would
be
just
cycling
back.
You
know,
drink
a
smoothie
go
to
the
back
of
the
line
and
go
through
again,
so
they
probably
were
in
other
areas.
A
B
D
F
The
other
question
I
had
is
it's
talking
about
hiring
youth.
It
seemed
like
maybe
it's
a
summer
jobs
program
too.
B
F
And
they
get
paid
yeah
stipends
yeah,
but
not
a
lot,
because
I
think
it's
at
something
like
20,
youth
or
part-time
youth
or
something,
and
then
they
were
talking
about
three
sites
this
year.
So
you
get
to
know
where
those
sites
were
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
think
these
are
all
good
things
to
ask
them.
I
mean
I
again,
my
knowledge
was
that
they
were
distributing
the
smoothies
in
the
jungle
and
black
cans.
Universal
is
like
situated
or
kind
of
works
out
of
west
village,
so
the
distance
isn't
that
great,
and
maybe
they
had
volunteers
that
were
able
to
bring
some
of
the
things
daily.
I
know
that
they
stored
some
of
the
items
very
nearby,
so
they
don't
have
to
haul
them
there
every
day.
But
okay.
F
I
don't
I
don't.
It
seems
like
a
program
that
would
keep
going.
It
seems
like
maybe
it's
partly
a
summer
jobs
program
which
we
certainly
need
more
summer,
jobs
for
youth,
etc.
But
I
wasn't
it
didn't,
seem
particularly
coveted
to
me.
A
A
Are
they
try
to
make
them
very
nutritious,
which
makes
sense
if
you're,
you
know,
feeding
people
in
the
jungle,
but
also
the
yoga
component,
which
indicated-
and
I
think
it
mentioned
here-
about
just
how
to
cope
with
stress
and-
and
you
know,
the
relaxation
component-
and
you
know
maybe
both
of
those
are
relatively
minor
when
we're
thinking
about
you
know,
funding
for
the
falls
under
a
coded
banner,
but
I
think
that's
what
I
got
out
of
this.
Those
are
the
two
components
that
that
related.
D
F
That's
the
part
that
appeals
to
me
as
sort
of
the
summer
jobs
program,
but
I
also
feel
like,
if
we're
talking
about
sustainability,
that
maybe
everything
shouldn't
be
free,
free
free,
I
don't
know
it
depends
where
these
locations
are.
I
mean
if
it's
randomly
people
walking
down
the
street
and
they're
offered
free
smoothies.
Well,
there
might
be
some
financial
sale
there.
A
F
A
So
it
doesn't
seem
as
if
anyone
is
is
opposed
to
this
outright.
You
just
really.
The
questions
are
about
the
components
kind
of
the
individual
components.
The
van
a
clear
explanation
of
what
the
purpose
of
this
project
is
some,
so
some
questions
to
to
ask:
am
I
correct
that
no
one
is
really
opposed
to
this
outright,
or
do
we
want
to
just
look
at
the
other
projects?
First,.
F
A
I
I
just
wanted
before
we
move
on,
add
that
my
reading
of,
besides
for
the
nutrition
of
how
this
was
covet
specific,
was
when
they
talked
about
depression
and
how
the
the
unemployment
and
the
isolation
of
covid
particularly
hit
their
community,
and
that
this
was
a
critical
way
to
try
to
keep
up
mental
health
during
a
pandemic.
So
that
to
me
made
it
very
cold
specific.
I
But
I
can
absolutely
see
tracy's
point
that
if
you
want
to
go
on,
you
need
a
different
model
and
that
and
that
you
don't
really
want
to
be
looking
at
charging
people
for
the
smoothies
right
now,
because
it's
serving
a
different
purpose.
But
it
could
become
a
community
building
model
which
can
sustain
itself
and.
F
I
me
this
was
really
straightforward.
It's
splitting
those
offices,
it
would
be
a
really
clear-cut
project.
Here's
the
split
here's,
what
it
cost,
here's,
what
we
pay.
I
thought
it
made
sense.
B
I
will
say
when
I
talk
to
heather
she
mentioned,
and
I
didn't
see
it
spelled
out
in
this
way
in
the
application
that
it's
clear
that
obviously
she
made
it
clear
that
they
can't
you
know
you
they
could
maximize
the
amount
of
staff
on
site
and
the
amount
of
survivors
they
could
meet
with
in
person
if
they
divided
the
office.
She
did
mention
that
pretty
stressful
for
their
staff
members
to
take
calls
at
home,
especially
during
covet
when
they're,
like
their
kids,
are
at
home
and
they're.
B
C
I
appreciated
the
fact
that
there
was
a
a
clear
completion
date
and
that
it
was
happening
now
and
would
be
done
very
soon.
I
mean
it
was
clearly
coveted,
related
and
important,
so
yeah.
A
So
I
think
it
mentioned
in
the
application
that,
and
one
of
the
things
we've
seen
in
some
of
our
other
applications,
particularly
you
know.
The
housing
ones,
of
course,
is
that
the
cost
for
labor
and
materials
are
are
much
higher
because
of
demand
for
those
services,
supply,
chain
issues
etc.
A
So
does
the-
and
maybe
it's
just
a
discussion
with
between
you
and
and
heather
campbell
and
nissa,
to
ensure
that
they
have
sufficient
funds
to
cover
any
overruns.
B
I
was
surprised
that
they
didn't
put
in
more
for
that,
because
we
did
talk
about
that
specifically
now.
I
wasn't
aware
when
I
talked
to
her
that
they
it
you
know
she
made
clear
the
application
that
they're
using
the
same
contractor
that
they've
used
in
the
past,
that
they
have
a
lot
of
experience
with,
and
if
that
is
a
sole
proprietor,
then
dba
might
not
kick
in
davis
bacon
act,
but
I
did
tell
her
about,
like
I
had
just
read
that,
like
lumber
costs
had
doubled
in
the
last.
F
B
So
I
I
did
mention
that
I
was
surprised
that
she
didn't
put
in
more
than
eight
hundred
dollars
too,
because
she
mentions
that
the
800.
You
know
she
added
that
to
the
original
estimate.
So
I
can
circle
back
again
if
you
would
like-
or
I
think
another
option
is
for
the
committee-
to
consider
funding
it
at
a
higher
level
and
make
and
make
return
of
the
funds
a
requirement
for
anything.
That's
they
didn't
need.
F
I
A
Okay
project
number
21,
ithaca
farmers,
market.
F
It's
too
exciting
to
talk
about
so
with
this.
There
are
people
that
are
shopping
online
now
at
the
farmers
market,
so
they
have
some
stuff
already
set
up,
but
they're
talking
about
expanding
it,
and
then
they
said
they
anticipate
once
sufficient
customers
shop
online.
It
will
sustain
itself
through
the
margins
set
by
the
farmers
market
to
cover
the
cost.
So
I
think
they're
saying
that
they
could
cover
this
40
discount
they're,
just
hoping
to
get
enough
shoppers
interested
in
it
to
make
it
continue
and
be
sustainable
right.
B
They
didn't
talk
to
me
about
the
data
that
they
had,
but
I
know
that
yes,
people
have
been
able
to
use
their
food
snap
benefits
for
a
long
time.
F
B
Yeah,
it's
a
very
new,
very
new
response
for
the
farmers
market.
You
know,
I
think
that
when
they
met
with
me,
what
they
talked
about
was
you
know,
trying
to
flexibly
find
ways
to
I
mean
it
benefits
the
farmers
and
it
benefits
the
community
right
and
they
were
really
looking
for
and
struggling
to
find
ways
to
connect
farmers
and
customers
during
this
time
of
cobit
by
social
distancing.
So
it
seems,
like
a
very
you
know,
something
that
they
evolved
very
quickly.
F
B
This
was
the
part
of
the
application
that
to
me,
I
felt
like
I
needed
more
clarification,
because
what
I
thought-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
answering
your
question
tracy,
but
what
I
thought
they
were
saying-
is
that
the
online
some
I
thought
that
there
was
some
barrier
that
people
with
they
used
to
be
called,
or
they
have
been
called
ebt
cards.
The
benefit
cards
for
some
reason
couldn't
use
the
online
ordering
that
their
card
did
not
allow.
That
is
what
I
was
reading
or
what
I
thought
I
was
understanding.
A
Covet
increase
the
use
of
online
shopping,
you
know,
particularly
specifically
for
grocery
shopping
and
low-income
people
certainly
should
be
able
to
avail
themselves
to
that.
That
possibility
also,
but
part
of
this
struck
me
as
the
market
looking
to
build
its
online
shopping
clientele.
A
E
F
C
F
I
don't
know
whether
they're
still
limiting
the
number
of
people
going
in,
so
you
know
that's
another
way,
they've
been
constrained,
but
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
that
it's
probably
that
it's
kind
of
a
business
thing
to
me
too
yeah.
I
Question
theresa,
okay,
so
you
were
able
to
use
your
snap
at
farmer's
market.
Other
people
use
farmers
market
now
kovid
they
have
an
online
thing.
Is
there
a
delivery
cost
a
cost
for
using
it
because
they
say
they
will
get
these
orders
and
they
will
deliver
it
to
these
places.
So
maybe
they
need
a
discount
temporarily
in
order
to
do
the
transaction
costs
of
online
until
they
have
a
big
enough
volume,
so
they
can
build
that
in
anissa.
Does.
B
What
I
was
again,
I
don't
know
just
to
answer
your
specific
question
when
I
spoke
to
them.
What
I
understood
is
that
they
had
a
delivery
service
and
the
food
order
would
be
delivered
to
the
consumer.
But
what
this
for
that?
B
I
will
honestly,
I
didn't
ask
that,
because
I
was
only
interested
in
how
this
helps
low-income
people
and
what
this
why
the
cove
would
need.
So
my
understanding
was
that
the
food
would
primarily
be
delivered
to
people
who
were
using
snap,
which
I
thought
was
great,
because
those
are
people
that
have
more
transportation
barriers,
but
in
the
application,
and
I
knew
that
they
would
also
have
pickup
sites
if
people
wanted
to
come
and
pick
it
up.
B
But
as
the
application
is
written,
it
seems
like
the
delivery
is
a
less
it's
like,
if
requested,
is
what
it
says.
So
that
was
again
a
bit
of
a
change
from
what
I
understood
in
our
initial
conversations,
which
is
not
unusual.
Okay,.
F
D
D
B
Right
yeah
again,
my
understanding
and
it
could
be
flawed-
was
that
for
some
reason
during
this
time
of
covet
the
the
maybe
it's
the
intermediary
type
of
whatever
the
system
that
was
used
to
create
the
transactions.
B
B
That's
that's
what
was
unclear
to
me
yeah,
it
seemed
like
then
I
was
like
so
because
I
didn't
spell
that
out.
I
was
like
okay,
so
is
the
discount
discount
to
make
the
to
lower
the
price
of
the
food
so
that
people
could
maybe
use
their
ebd
card
in
traditional
quote-unquote
places
like
actual
grocery
stores
or
or
actual
in-person
transactions,
and
then
be
able
to
afford
this?
It
wasn't
honestly.
I
had
that
question
myself.
Okay,.
F
C
B
When
I
talked
to
them,
they
mentioned
the
part-time
staff,
but
when
I
talked
to
them
they
had
a
delivery
service,
a
local
delivery
service,
so
it
wouldn't
be
like
they
were
creating
jobs.
It
would
be
like
they
would
be
outsourcing
that
to
the
delivery
service.
B
B
Not
I'm
not
sure,
although
you
saw
you
you
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
black
and
universal
project,
the
youth
employment,
for
reasons
that
you
articulated
could
be
seen
as
a
code
specific
name
here,
the
it
was
a
little
more
tenuous
that
connection
for
me.
D
Yeah,
I'm
reading
here
seems
pretty
clear:
the
grant
funding
will
be
used
to
pay
40
subsidy
for
snap
orders
and
then
below
it
says
farmers
market.
If
ethical
market
farmers
will
benefit
from
the
revenue,
so
the
money
is
still
going
to
go
to
the
farmers
or
the
sellers,
but
it's
just
they're
helping
subsidize
snap
sales
and.
D
D
F
But
I
think
their
idea
is:
is
that
aft?
I
think
it
is
building
the
base,
because
then
they
say
they
anticipate
this.
This
is
the
system
will
sustain
itself
through
the
margins
set
by
ithaca
farmers
market
to
cover
the
cost
of
full
paying
customers
would
subsidize
the
margin,
so
it
seems
like
they
have
their
little
sustainability
plan.
For
this
idea.
B
One
thing
I
liked
not
that
you
asked
me
so
maybe
I
should
try
it
but
that
they
plan
to
do
outreach
at
various
sites
like
like
tc
action,
gc,
dss
catholic
charities,
which
I
don't
know
that
I
thought
that
was
a
good
aspect
of
this
in
terms
of
actually
really
trying
to
reach
people
who
had
the
need,
not
just
people
who
were
already
going
to
the
farmers
market.
You
know.
F
Right-
and
I
like
I
do
like
the
pickup
sites
that
they
would
have
those
different
pickup
sites,
and
I
I
think
one
way
to
look
at
it,
whether
they're,
just
replacing
their
limited
income,
snap
benefit
people
who
are
work
originally
going
to
the
market
and
using
their
cards
there
versus
increasing
the
customer
base
with
adding
new
snap
customers
is
how
many
snap
customers
were
using
it.
I
think
that's
a
question
we
asked
earlier
how
many
were
already
using
it.
They
probably
know
that,
and
that
may
have
changed
radically
in
the
past
year.
F
A
Well,
there's
certainly
there's
certainly
enough
questions
on
this,
one
that
you
know
we
have
to
get
some
answers
that
doesn't
appear
that
we
can
go
much
further
with
our
discussion
right
now.
Until
we
get
some
answers.
Did
I
cut
you
off
anissa
go
ahead.
B
Just
they
do
mention
at
the
top
that
the
pounds
of
food
distributed
via
the
local
pantry
network
went
from
1.9
to
3.5
million
pounds,
but
while
they
provided
more
food,
there
was
a
lack
of
fresh
food
and
that's
often
very
true,
obviously
in
food
pantries
again.
So
it's
kind
of
helping
people
connect
to
fresh
food.
A
Okay,
all
right.
Moving
on
to
project
number
22.
F
B
A
B
B
So
again,
when
I
spoke
to
them,
they
were
speaking
of
the
need
to
educate
people
to
the
value
of
the
vaccine,
but
I
didn't
see
that
reflected
in
the
application.
F
I
A
F
C
F
G
F
A
Okay
and
then
the
final,
the
final
project
is
number
24,
a
sanitation
station
and
again
something
we've
talked
about
to
be
placed
somewhere
downtown
or
to
be
mobile.
I'm
gonna.
A
B
So,
just
to
be
clear,
this
kind
of
came
out
of
your
just
discussion
that
you
had
earlier.
I
had
done
some
investigation
teresa
did
an
amazing
amount
of
research
trying
to,
but
so
try
to
incorporate
what
I
heard
in
the
previous
discussion,
for
example,
tracy
was
very
interested
in
seeing
a
restroom
if
there
were
to
be
one
placed
on
city,
land
and
near
the
commons.
B
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
part
of
this
is
when
I
discuss
with
nell.
Should
we
be
trying
to
put
through
an
application?
He
said
you
know
we
could
and
that
part
of
this
would
be
asking
for
your
guidance
in
seeking
a
sponsor.
B
So
it
seems
like
the
city
now,
just
yes
just
wednesday,
joanne
cornish
again
in
our
staff
meeting,
talked
about
the
need,
like
the
the
cwp
workers,
still
still
having
a
a
great
quantity
of
work
to
do
in
the
in
this
area,
and
they
she
and
another
planner
in
the
department.
Jan
husner
met
with
residents
and
business
owners
at
the
100
block
of
state
street,
because
this
was
one
of
their
concerns
and
many
issues
that
they
were
having
in
the
100
block
of
state
street.
B
F
A
B
B
E
F
A
And
right
and
the
downtown
dia,
I
guess
they
seem
best
position
to
find
a
sponsor.
You
know
that
would
seem
to
be
their
one
of
their
roles
or
or
a
role
that
they
they
certainly
could
play.
I
mean
we
can
think
about
that
100
block
of
what
state.
A
I
would
would
imagine
that
that
alley
between
the
cornell
daily
sun
and
was
a
family
children's
that
cuts
over
to
green
street
or
that
parking
lot
directly
across
from
that,
I'm
just
starting
trying
to
think
you
know
where
people
might
be
ducking
ducking
in
to
do
their
business.
Those
two
seem
to
be
the
the
most
likely
places
so
yeah
again
the
downtown
association
can
reach
out
to
the
neighboring
businesses
and
really
do
the
lobbying,
because
presumably
they
have
a
relationship
with
those
businesses
already.
F
B
I
I
That
had
this
meeting
and
we
went
on
and
on
about
this,
so
business
improvement
district,
that
vid
tax,
that
I
fought
with
the
tax
assessor
for
my
single
family
house
that
he
considers
an
apartment
building
and
therefore
I
must
pay,
because
I
get
the
benefit
of
it.
What
is
is
that
money
available?
What
do
they
use
that,
for?
I
I
pay
a
special
thousand
to
like
two
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
my
house
next
to
shortstop
deli
that
my
people
live
in
because
it
falls
into
the
business
improvement
district
and
the
tax
assessor
won't
recognize
it
as
a
single
family
house,
because
seven
people
are
sharing
it.
Therefore
it
must
be
an
apartment
building
and
therefore
it
must
pay
into
the
bid.
But
you
know
so
I
mean
I've
and
paid
as
long
as
I've
owned
that
building
enough
for
two
of
these
places.
H
I
did
hear
your
question
and
the
the
funds
flow
automatically
to
the
business
improvement
district
itself
and
its
governance
to
see
you
know,
self-governance
and
how
they
allocate
their
budget
gun.
Guttridge,
I
believe,
is
the
president
right
now.
Oh.
G
H
Goes
through
a
you
know:
they
have
a
they
have
a
plan
they
develop
each
year
for
use
of
their
funds.
You
know
some
of
the
initiatives
this
year.
They
shifted.
You
know
in
mid-year
with
pop-up
retail
spaces
and
pop-up
restaurant.
You
know
subsidies
for
for
lower
rents
for
filling
some
of
the
vacancies.
H
So
they
you
know
they
do
have
a
gary
ferguson
would
be
the
kind
you
know
direct
contact
person
to
ask
about
that
budget,
but
I
think
you
could
approach
john
guttridge
as
well
about
that
allocation
of
their
budget
and
which
does
include
kind
of
the
ambassadors,
downtown
and
gardening
activities,
as
well.
As
you
know,
economic
development
initiatives,
so
I
think.
I
H
I
H
F
A
So
fernando
you
got
a
question.
A
No,
oh,
no
okay!
So
one
question
I
had
about
this
is
that
the
cleaning,
so
I
see
that
we're
building
in
once
a
week
which
I
think
is
going
to
prove
to
to
not
be
sufficient.
No.
A
B
Well,
one
thing:
I
well
two
things
I
wanted
to
point
out
and
since
nells
is
here
you
know
it's
always
good
to
have
his
expertise,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
and
nels
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that
we
do
the
cb
funding
still
does
have
to
go
to
majority
benefit
for
lmi
people.
So.
B
That
needs
to
be
considered.
I
mean
I,
I
think,
there's
compelling
reasons
that
you've
all
mentioned
for
having
the
bid
involved
just
as
long
as
the
bid
understands
that
it
cannot
discourage
people
who
are
homeless
from
using
the
the
restroom
it
because
it's
not
just
for
customers
of
businesses.
B
It's
for
people
who
are
that
the
funding
needs
to
be
directed
to
an
lmi
population
and
it's
a
hard
population
to
count,
as
I
tried
to
articulate,
but
just
just
putting
that
out
there,
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
when
I
spoke
to
the
commons
maintenance
supervisor
dwayne
ross
they
had,
they
do
have
the.
I
think
it's
electrostatic
sanitizing
machine
that
can
do
the
outside
of
the
building,
and
I'm
assuming
that
I
could
use
it
on
the
inside
of
the
porta
potty
too,
but
it
won't
remove
debris.
D
Touched
in
our
discussion
about
the
dia,
I
think
you
know
their
role
if
it's
not
in
helping
to
fund
a
facility
like
this,
it
may
be
in
helping
to
maintain
it
and
they
may
have
other
roles
that
they
can
play
that
are
useful
if,
if
getting,
if
getting
usually
getting
cash,
it's
not
easy
for
an
agency
like
that.
D
F
You
designate
your
tax
part
to
the
porta
potty.
I
would
love
to
be
like
a
tax
statement,
but
I
I
think
if
we
do
this,
it's
a
one-year
demonstration
and
I
think
it
would
need
to
be
taken
over
by
somebody
like
downtown
business,
and
I
hope
that
they
would
see
this
as
a
benefit
for
the
whole
downtown
area
of
which
they're
in
charge
and
I'd
also
say,
they're,
aiming
for
state
street
too.
Now
so
they're,
probably
coming
at
your
other
property
theresa
anyway,
then
you'll
really
have
some
clout
with
the
port-a-potty
discussion.
F
So,
but
I
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
us
in
this
for
ever.
I
do
think
you
can
justify
it
as
a
covet
expense
right
now,
when
we
see
all
those
closed
signs
everywhere
and.
B
E
A
I
think
it
would
be.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
dia's
involvement,
perhaps
even
to
commit
to
funding
cleaning
more
often
than
the
once
a
week
or
in
addition
to
our
funding
at
once
a
week.
But
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
key
to
this
to
the
success
of
this.
F
A
You
know
because,
if
it's
just,
we
know
that
it's
not
going
to
be
just
folks
who
are
homeless
and
you
know
can't-
are
not
a
customer
of
a
restaurant
and
so
therefore
can't
use
the
the
the
restroom
when
the
bars
close.
You
know,
college
kids,
people
that's
walking
around.
Whoever
has
the
need.
So
it's
going
to
be
important
if
this
is
going
to
be
successful,
that
they're
maintained
that
people
feel
that
it's
not
just
an
eyesore
and
a
nose
source.
A
If
that's
the
word,
you
know
so
yeah,
let's
see
what
that
what
they
say,
but
dia's
involvement
aside
again,
this
is
something
we've
talked
about
and
we've
certainly
heard
the
need
for
it.
A
Is
there
support
for
this,
as
you
know,
and
we
reassess
it
in
whatever
term
you
know
the
time
frame
we
determine.
H
Yeah,
nowhere
definitely
we're
hearing,
that's
a
serious
need
regarding
the
100
100
west
state
street
block.
It's
the
it's
the
open
parking
lot
area.
That's
the
major
concern
currently,
but
you
know
it
could
easily
move
somewhere
else.
We
know
the
area
between
the
library
and
kyuge
green.
You
know
right
near
the
bus
area
has
been
an
issue
as
well,
and
you
know
it's
just
a
very
few
opportunities
for
the
general
public
to
access
restrooms
and
it
is
a
pretty
significant
need
right
now.
F
H
Yeah,
and
just
so
you
know,
the
conference
center
is
starting
to
discuss
this
issue
as
part
of
their
project,
as
well
as
a
potential
amenity
they
can
offer
to
the
community,
because
that
project
is
still
moving
forward.
At
this
point,.
H
H
B
Bring
in
that
bring
in
teresa
to
speak
to
the
group,
she's
done
so
much
research
there's
like
she
has
so
many
models
to
draw
on
about
to
to
things
that
discourage
that
kind
of.
C
F
G
A
Mm-Hmm,
all
right,
so
that's
I
just
want
to
recap
this.
A
This
cv
conditional
support
for
project
19,
there's,
certainly
several
questions
about
that,
and
the
the
the
largest
single
component
was
the
van
at
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
so
some
real
questions
about
that.
Fernando
had
a
suggestion
that
they
looked
to
partner
with
ithaca
car
share.
A
The
advocacy
center
project
number
20
seemed
to
be
strong
support
on
there.
In
fact,
we
increased
that
ass
to
6
000
in
case
there's
any
overage
and
that
any
extra
would
come
back
to
us.
Excuse
me
if
a
farmer's
market
project
number
21
again
lots
of
questions
about
how
that
would
use
how
snap
works.
So
you
know
how
what
the
true
purpose
of
the
project
is.
A
So
we
need
some
more
information
there
project
22
partners
in
health,
no
support
there,
project
23,
st
john's
community
hvac,
upgrade
strong
support
and
then
24
the
sanitation
station
strong
support
some
questions.
Hopefully
we'll
get
a
partner
in
that,
but
it
seems
like
we
have
some
support
and
that
will
be
conditional.
We'll
get
some
reports
back
once
once
it's
set
up,
and
then
we
can
determine
whether
we
want
to
continue
with
it
or
pull
it
after
a
month
or
two.
D
B
F
F
D
B
A
Even
with
the
elimination
of
project
22,
which
was
the
partners
in
health,
that
was
twenty
thousand
dollars,
so
we're
still
over
budget
by
what
over
thirty
thousand
dollars.
A
D
A
D
And
you
know
we
have
enough
funding
to
cover
all
the
ones
that
we
liked,
including
the
farmers
market,
assuming
we
go
with
that,
but
the
one
for
you
know
when
you
ask
for
38
000
when
there's
only
six
available,
it's
a
it's
a
real
problem
right
there.
So
if
there's
a
way
that
they
can
scale
down,
whether
it's
the
van
or
otherwise,
I
guess
we
can
reconsider
that.
A
A
All
right
ready
to
move
on
to
public
facilities.
Yes,
okay,
I'm
sorry
public
services.
I
keep
doing
that.
A
Written
it
out
another
piece
of
paper,
some
public
services,
sorry
2-1-1,
oh
and
let's,
which,
for
our
time
check,
is
1006.
So
I
think
hopefully,
we've
all
allocated
extra
time.
We
know
this
time
of
year
and
we're
getting
to
these
projects
that
these
can
be
long
meetings.
A
Right
and
a
request
for
twenty
five
thousand,
and
as
just
you
know
that
as
nietzsche
said,
rather
that
is,
they
haven't
increased.
What
they're
asking
for
us
asking
from
us
rather.
A
This
is,
you
know,
2-1-1
as
an
old
friend.
We
all,
I
think,
recognize
the
value
of
the
service.
I
would
think
I
could
speak
for
everyone,
so
there's
very
strong
support
for
this
funding.
A
E
I
D
F
C
F
And
again,
this
is
associated
with
the
other
67
000
requests
in.
D
A
This
project,
like
several
of
the
others,
we'll
be
discussing,
perhaps
not
today,
but
but
as
we
go
through
all
the
projects,
I
know
we
each
year
we
talk
about
the
agency,
you
know
being
a
funder
and
encouraging
them.
You
know
these
projects
to
find
other
funding,
but
clearly
well,
I
will
say
clearly,
but
they
keep
coming
back
to
us
and
so
perhaps
that
finding
that
other
funding
is
not
realistic.
A
realistic
expectation
for
us.
B
One
thing
I'll
say
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
budget
piece,
I
think
that
and
edie
talked
about
this
a
little
bit.
The
executive
director
has
been
very
active
in
soliciting
other
funds.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
other
there's
a
lot
of
match
there.
I
wonder
if
that's
how
they've
been
able
to
they
have
not
increased
their
ask
over
the
years.
So
they're,
it's
kind
of
six
and
one
half
dozen.
E
B
B
I
A
B
I
can
I
don't
have
their
last
year's
number
on
their
sales.
I
know
that
they
made
a
big
push
at
the
beginning
of
covet
to
go
to
online
marketplace
like
at
an
etsy
store
and
so
on.
That's
an
area
that
they
really
were
working
to
develop.
I
can
ask
them
about
that
and
in
regards
to
how
that
fits
with
work,
preserve
one
thing
I'll
say:
is
that
a
difficulty
that
they
have?
Is
it
because
they
work?
They
have
traditionally
worked
with
a
youth
or
younger
job
seekers.
B
The
online
marketplace
there's
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
the
visual
presentation
of
the
items,
so
they
don't
necessarily
have
youth
that
have
exp
to
be
able
to
help
with
the
online
store.
You
have
to
have
experience
with
photography
and
design
elements
like
showing
the
items
in
a
particular
way,
so
that's
been
hard
for
them
that
they
can't
they
haven't
found.
A
it's
kind
of
depends
on
the
particular
use.
I
They
were
closed
for
a
fairly
short
time
and
then
they
were
required
to
be
open
as
a
you
know,
fix
your
house
essential
store.
So
so
I
wonder
if
their
sales
have
increased
stay
the
same,
I'm
just
wondering
because
when
you're
talking
about
them
getting
a
match
from
different
pieces,
I'm
wondering
if
that
was
hit
because
of
covet
or
if
it
could
have
actually
gone
up.
B
Okay,
I'll
ask
yeah,
I
see
they
have
budgeted
23
of
the
total
budgets
from
significant
elements,
but
I
don't
I
assume,
because
they
wrote
this
recently,
it's
reflective,
but
it
would
be
it's
an
interesting
question
and
I
can
reach
out.
A
So
I
think
we
we've
got
a
yes
on
this
one.
A
A
A
F
A
Okay,
and
next
is
project
18
a
place
to
stay.
It's
also
catholic
charities
or
catholic
charities
program
wait
a
minute.
I
A
Yeah
we
moved
that
into
public
facilities.
A
A
Sorry
about
that,
so
18
is
I'm
sorry,
18
catholic
charities
place
to
stay
and
that's
the
shelter
for
for
women
like
a
capacity
of
four
four
people.
F
F
I
thought
it
was
impressive
when
they
said
75
of
of
the
39
people
in
41
stays
who
have
been
there
have
remained
housed
after
they
moved
out.
A
F
I
thought
it
was
more
than
that.
I
thought
it
was
100
200,
but
yeah.
F
No,
that's
what
it
says
at
the
top
of
I
just
thought.
I
saw
it
at
the
top
of
the
things.
D
That's
what
we
said
at
the
beginning
of
discussions,
a
hundred
thousand
two
hundred
dollars.
D
F
A
Yeah
it
says
oh
and
they'll
set
us
on
your
porch
tracy
yeah.
It
says
public
services
funding
cap
equals
fifteen
percent
of
2021
cdbg
award,
102
thousand
one
hundred
fourteen
dollars
and
fifteen
cents.
Oh.
F
Not
to
be
precise
or
anything
so
that
just
took
out
the
administrative
money,
so,
okay,
so
that's
what
we've
got,
but
we
don't
we
we
can.
We
can
use
that
for
other
things.
We
don't
have
to
use
it
for
public
services,
one
wrinkle.
F
C
B
In
on
this,
too,
since
he's
since
he's
lurking
okay,
so
we
have
recategorized
the
shelters,
100
dollars
asked
into
the
public
facilities
category.
However,
there's
a
few
things
there,
the
research
that
we've
done
has
shown
that
they're
talking
about
a
lease
to
own
situation,
which
they
would
do
over
three
years
and
to
use
cdbg
funds
for
acquisition.
B
There
either
needs
to
be
a
long
term
lease
of
15
years
or
it's
used
as
acquisition,
which
usually
occurs
in
one
year.
So
nels
has
already
thought
of
ways
that
we
can
make
sure
that
if
they,
if
they
are
entering
into
an
agreement
with
a
provider,
a
hotel
that
they
that
they
could
use
this
funding
for
acquisition.
B
However,
by
the
same
at
the
same
time,
you
may
have
noticed
in
their
application
that
they're
talking
about
using
fun,
dss
funding
would
be
paying
for
part
of
this,
and
there
can
be
services
provided
public
services
provided
as
well.
They
happen
to
put
in
one
application
a
giant
application
in
the
public
services
category.
They
could
have
done
two
for
some
public
service
money
and
then
some
for
this
long-term
lease
or
the
acquisition.
B
H
I'm
trying
to
multitask
I'm
sorry
but
yeah,
and
this
is
one
that's
a
hybrid.
It
could
be
eligible
under
public
services,
but
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
ask
is
not
going
to
be
very,
very
competitive.
I
suggest-
and
it's
it's
really
talking
about
ultimate
acquisition.
The
trick
is.
It
has
to
truly
be
an
acquisition
to
qualify
as
public
facilities
so
and
as
anissa
described
a
three-year.
H
You
know,
rent
agreement
doesn't
cut
it
for
acquisition
it
would
have
to,
but
if
they
can
structure
it
as
somebody
that
ends
up
with
acquisition,
we
can
probably
find
a
way
to
fund
it
under
public
facilities.
Otherwise
you
have
to
look
at
it
as
a
public
services
activity
covering
operating
expenses
which
rent
would
qualify
as.
B
F
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
them
for
a
second
now-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
are,
I
would
just
say
that
this
was
a
very,
very
like
little
tiny
application
for
a
big
amount
of
money.
There
was
there
were
so
many
details
that
I
really
would
have
liked
to
know.
Yeah
just
saying.
B
Nels,
I
wonder,
do
you
know,
since
you
had
a
conversation
recently
with
dss
when
the
application
speaks
of
psh
to
me
that
normally
means
permanent,
supportive
housing,
but
it's
mentioned
in
the
application
one
time
as
publicly
supported
housing.
Do
you
happen
to
know
anything
about
what
their
plans
were?
There.
H
B
H
D
A
D
F
A
A
A
That
makes
sense
if
we
could
try
to
do
economic
development,
that
should
that
will
probably
take
us
we'll
take
us
past
10
30,
certainly
so
we
could
do
that.
Move
on
to
economic
development
and
else
could
then
weigh
in
as
we
discussed
each
project
or
I
know
you're
trying
to
do
other
work
now.
So
perhaps
you
could
just
run
down
through
what
the
the
ed
committee
thought.
You
know
projects
seven
through
ten
excuse
me
right
now
and
then
we
could
then
have
our
discussion
yeah.
That.
H
Okay
and
anissa
attended
that
meeting
as
well,
so
she
can
can
also
come
in
where
I
stray
from
her
understanding
of
the
discussion.
Generally
speaking,
the
ed
committee
didn't
make
any
final
recommendations
at
the
meeting.
They
also
kind
of
preliminary
analysis
want
to
hear
back
some
questions.
You
know
answers
to
questions
at
the
public
hearing
before
they
further.
I
did
start
out
by
saying:
we've
got
you
know
about
1.2
million
dollars
in
funding
requests
and
about
1.7
million
and
half
the
weight.
H
We
have
1.2
million
to
fund
1.7
million
dollars
in
requests.
So
if
you
were
to
you
know
rate
that
by
category
there
would
need
to
be
a
cut
of
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
ed
category,
if
we're
gonna,
you
know
bring
that
down
on
a
equal
category
by
category
basis
you
know.
Overall,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
has
to
be
trimmed
somewhere.
H
So
we
did
try
to
have
a
discussion
within
that
framework
of
it's
nice
to
fund
everything,
but
it's
probably
not
going
to
be
possible
because
again,
like
a
lot
of
these
projects,
they
have
very
strong
positive
attributes
about
them,
so
that
where
they
ended
up
at
the
end
of
the
day
was
that
they
only
really
looked
like
they
were
going
to
eliminate
only
one
project
of
this
kit
out
of
this
category
that
they
didn't
think
was
ready
for
funding,
and
that
was
the
ithaca
is
books,
buffalo
street
books
project.
H
The
worry
there
was
that
the
model
of
hiring
an
events
coordinator
was
not
necessarily
going
to
financially.
You
know
lead
to
financial
sustainability
for
the
organization,
or
at
least
the
case
wasn't
made
that
it
was
a
reset
of
the
business
in
a
way
that
would
really
continue
the
job
creation
that
was
proposed
in
the
project.
H
There
could
be
some
answers
at
the
public
hearing
that
would
change
that,
but
that
they
were
skeptical
about
the
ability
of
of
that
funding,
request
to
really
put
them
on
solid
financial
footing
and
rally
and
really
would
like
to
be
open
to
further
discussions
with
them
about
you
know.
How
could
the
agency
go
on
a
one-time
funding
basis
to
help
them
be
successful?
They
just
weren't
convinced
that
this
was
the
right
model
necessarily
or
at
least
didn't,
have
enough
information
in
the
packet
to
suggest
that,
so
that
was
their
one
kind
of
consensus
decision.
H
I
think
that
they
reached
on
that
one,
that
it
wasn't
quite
ready
for
funding
this
year.
The
other
projects
are
all
familiar
projects
that
we've
the
agency
has
funded
in
the
past
last
year.
It
was
noted
that
the
hetp
and
the
finger
lakes
projects
were
funded
at
75
000.
Their
requests
are
substantially
higher
this
year
than
that
what
they
received
last
year,
although
those
are
about
the
requests
they
made
last
year,
are
in
their
original
application.
H
Every
one
of
these
programs
has
had
real
strong
challenges
with
soviet
in
trying
in
the
last
year
to
really
show
performance
and
outcomes,
and
I
think
of
all
of
them.
The
the
sense
was
that
the
work
preserve
project
had
some
of
the
biggest
challenges
when
they
had
to
go
remote
for
training
or
had
to
have
social
distancing,
because
they
didn't
have
the
infrastructure
to
do
remote
activities.
H
H
Their
general
view
was
that
that
coming
out
of
the
coved
regional
recovery
from
coveted
is
the
right
time
to
provide
as
much
funding
to
support
these
programs
as
is
possible,
that
it's
not
the
right
time
to
make
deep
cuts
in
these
programs,
because
they're
serving
people
who
are
trying
to
get
back
on
their
feet
from
from
covid
and
prior
pre-existing
conditions,
and
so
they
really
wanted
to
find
a
way
to
retain
the
capacity.
H
Having
said
that,
they
realize
that
probably
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
fund
them
at
at
full
funding
and
their
discussions
regarding
finger
lakes,
reuse,
where
they
really
like
the
fact
that
it's
targeting
deep
stipends
for
people
that
that
especially
coming
in
from
reent
and
free
entry,
they
think
that's
a
positive,
workable
model.
That
says
shown
success
and
is
necessary
to
really
be
successful.
H
But
by
the
same
token,
that
that's
the
funding
category
where
there
could
be
scalability,
because
there's
a
pretty
deep
stipend
per
participant,
there's
six
re-entry
participants
in
that
program,
and
so
that
that's
something
they're
going
to
keep
in
mind.
But
they,
like
the
program
very
much
work,
preserve
they've
got
continued
support
for
that.
They
realize
it's
working
with
a
really
difficult.
H
You
know
group
with
a
lot
of
disadvantages
and
their
kind
of
first
employment,
and
we
believe
that
their
model
isn't
an
appropriate
approach
to
work
with
that
population
and
the
hospitality
and
training
program.
Question
like
prior
year
came
down
to
a
question
in
their
mind
of
if
it
needs
scalability.
How
does
that
work?
H
And
realistically
it
means
that
the
current
currently
they
have
a
coordinator
and
an
assistant
coordinator,
and
if
you
start
scaling
back
any
significant
amount,
it
probably
means
they
can't
fund
the
assistant
coordinator,
which
is
about
forty
thousand
dollars
of
funding
dedicated
to
that
source.
H
So
I
think
that's,
that's
kind
of
where
they're
at
you
know,
initially
in
thinking
through
definitely
wanting
to
keep
capacity
for
all
three
of
those
job:
training,
placement
programs,
but
not
sure
exactly
where
that
fits
in
competition
with
the
other
activities
for
funding
and
they
had.
They
did
have
individual
questions
for
each
one
of
them
as
well.
But
I
think
overall,
that's
kind
of
a
summary
anisa.
Did
you
you
kind
of
draw
different
conclusions
or
anything.
F
I
have
one
question
about
that.
You
know
you
said
last
year
that
that
we
gave
75
000
to
hetp
and
75
thousand
dollars
to
finger
likes,
reuse
right
right.
F
H
We
had
that
exact.
We
had
that
exact
same
discussion
and
in
fact
they
currently
do
have
both
positions
operating
and
that's
partially,
a
result
of
the
leg
and
funding
so
they're.
Now,
just
starting
to
you
know,
they're
still
utilizing
2019
funds
and
just
spending
that
down
gonna
start
in
2020
funds
coming
soon
so
they're
still
working
on
the
year
when
they
had
a
higher
funding
amount
and
they're
now
going
to
be
drawing.
You
know,
so,
they're
really
going
to
hit
that
point
coming
up
in
terms
of
their
programmatic
activities.
B
They
also
changed
staff
members,
nagion
left
they
had
that
space
was
empty
for
a
couple
of
months,
and
I
assume
that
the
new
person
probably
doesn't
have
the
same
salary,
not
that
that's
going
to
be
super
significant
and
also
http
did
contact
me
to
see.
If
you
know,
they're
aware
that
they're,
you
know
they're
they're,
not
not
normally
in
this
position
of
being
slow
in
their
their
funds
and
they're
thinking
about
doing
a
summer
program
and
they
asked
if
that
would
be.
A
B
I
will
say
that
so
in
terms
of
the
stipends,
they
work
just
in
terms
of
re-entry,
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
aware,
but
during
covet
a
number
of
people
were
released
from
the
state
prison
system
because
of
the
danger
for
kovitz.
So
there
are
more
people
in
re-entry
from
the
state
prison
system
than
normally
would
be
in
our
community.
A
As
we've
done
in
at
least
last
year,
and
I'm
pretty
sure
in
in
each
of
the
last
few
prior
years,
we
have
scaled
it
down
because
their
their
ass
usually
is
fairly
large.
So
we
can
certainly
keep
that
in
mind.
So,
as
nell's
mentioned
it
was
75,
or
someone
mentioned
it
was
75
000
last
year,
which
is
significantly
less
than
the
amount
they're
asking.
B
F
F
F
B
H
Yeah,
no
I'm
sure
they
gave
you
the
wrong
date,
they're
not
scheduled
to
meet
again
until
april
13th.
I
guess
I
missed
it
by
a
day
but
okay
and
are
you
meeting
on
the
9th
of
april?
Is
that?
What
is
that?
Your
april
meeting.
F
But
then,
but
carl
taking
your
question
anisa,
maybe
you
could
ask
them.
What's
the
most
important
part
of
what
they've
requested
from
funding,
you
know,
what
do
they,
which.
A
And
also,
you
know
a
small
number
of
proposed
clients
to
be
served,
but,
as
you
know,
we've
heard
over
the
years.
This
is
a
really
tough
population
of
folks
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
supported
this
project
is
because
they
do
work
with
some
a
really
tough
population
trying
to
get
them
integrated
into
the
workforce.
C
B
Yeah
they're
in
a
similar.
Well
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
this,
but
all
the
we
ira,
based
on
your
recommendation,
granted
all
the
2019
grantees
projects
an
extension
to
the
end
of
june,
because
covid
had
the
lead.
So
so
they
all
have
that.
So
most
of
them
are
in
the
position
of
now
just
just
finishing
their
2019
spending
starting
on
2020
because
they
get
it
usually
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
they
got
it
at
the
end
of
2020
and
so
they're
they're
in
a
similar
position.
B
C
F
A
A
So
one
of
the
questions
I
had
about
this
is,
I
think
they
know
somewhere
in
their
write-up,
that
the
hospitality
industry,
the
broader,
not
just
the
hotels,
but
you
know,
restaurants,
etc,
saw
a
lot
of
layoffs.
And
so
my
question
is:
is
the
industry?
A
Is
it
the
industry
project
projected
to
come
back
enough
so
that
the
people
who
were
laid
off
get
their
jobs
and
then
graduates
from
http
would
have
a
possibility
of
getting
hired?
Because
I
would
think
that
the
folks
who
were
laid
off
from
previous
employment
positions
would
be
first
in
line
and,
if
you
know
even
going
out
another
year
so
to
the
end
of
2022,.
H
Well,
the
ed
committee
did
ask
a
similar
question:
it
had
that
concern.
We
know
from
working
with
the
hotels
on
the
conference
center
project,
what
they're
projecting
for
their
kind
of
revenues
going
forward
and
they're
projecting
if
you
use
2019.
H
As
the
you
know,
the
peak
in
terms
of
hotel
revenue
collections
from
taxes,
for
example,
in
the
county
in
the
city,
2020,
was
a
bust.
It
was
about
50
percent
in
2021
they're
expecting
to
be
down.
You
know
around
40
percent
and
then
20
22
about
30
percent,
so
they
do
expect.
You
know
the
economy
to
rebound
back
up.
I
think
hotels
are
going
to
be
a
little
reluctant
to
over
hire.
You
know
too
quickly.
H
Until
they
see
the
trend,
there
was
an
incredible
steep
drop
off
in
the
leisure
industry.
As
you're
all
aware,
the
fed
has
some
statistics
on
it
that
are
very
really
disturbing
to
see
the
the
reduction
in
job
count
in
that
area,
which
probably
the
feds
probably
included.
You
know
cruise
boats
too
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
so
they
they
do
expect
things
to
bounce
back.
We
have
the
infrastructure
in
terms
of
the
downtown
hotels,
so
that's
a
positive,
but
I
think
it
is
a
very
legitimate
question
to
ask
about.
H
I
think
ed
members
read
through
it
that
there
was
services
being
provided
to
prior
graduates
as
well,
so
those
might
be
some
of
those
people
who
are
laid
off
who
are
now
looking
struggling
to
get
their
jobs
back
again
because
they
they
have
expanded
their
one-on-one
kind
of
technical
assistance.
Programs
working
with
you
know
prior
graduates,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
there
are
going
to
be
several
people
who
fall
into
that
category.
F
Do
do
we
have
information
it
might
have
been
in
here,
and
I
missed
it
about
how
many
people
who
have
been
through
the
program
have
ended
up
working
in
hotel
or
hospitality
stuff,
because
I
think
they
were
talking
about
people
doing
other
things
too.
H
G
B
Their
administrative
component
component-
and
I
think
http,
would
say
that,
though
they
focus
on
the
hospitality.
Those
skills
and
dealing
with
people
are
transferable
to
other
areas,
but
they
didn't
give
numbers
of
how
many
were
placed
in
each
category,
and
I
can
ask
that
if
you
like.
F
I
I
think,
that's
interesting,
because
if
they're
really
doing
this
program
and
it's
more
generalized
than
hospitality
and
people
are
still
getting
jobs
because
of
it,
I
think
that's
important
to
know.
B
H
F
Okay
and
then
they
are
talking
about
two
cohorts:
okay
and
part
of
its
salaries
and
part
of
its
stipends.
A
F
B
I
B
But
they
have
48,
they
have
a
small
match
from
on-the-job
training,
employers
which
I
think
that
they
might
say
that
they
think
the
employers
will
have
trouble
doing
that
this
year
and
they
don't
require
it
from
their
employers.
Then
they
have
some
united
way
funds,
consulting
revenue
and
a
little
bit
else
that
they're
contributing
themselves.
F
F
C
B
A
Curbside
all
right
so
support
for
this
project.
You
know
it's
one
of
our
our
familiars,
but
some
questions
particularly
to
gx
staff
or
jack
administrators.
A
C
A
All
right
and
then
project
10
ithaca
is
books.
This
is
a
new
one
through
buffalo
street.
A
D
A
Right,
that's
exactly
what
I
was
thinking
too:
it's
only
a
worthy
worthy
project,
but
given
the
competition
and
the
other
needs,
I
I
couldn't
support.
G
D
Right-
and
you
know
you
mentioned-
that
for
the
hospitality
program
we
need
to
address
scalability,
I
will
go
further.
You
know,
I
think
we
for
seven,
eight
and
nine.
That's
the
question.
You
know
we're
all
big
projects
and
we're
going
to
have
to
cut
so.
C
A
Okay,
sort
of
do
a
time
check
here.
We,
I
think,
made
some
good
progress
through
our
proposals.
A
We
still
have
other
business
to
get
through,
which
probably
shouldn't
take
too
long,
but
we
have
the
the
grant
and
lease
summaries
and
then
the
staff
report,
so
it's
10
50
now
do
we
feel
that
we
we
meet
again
next
friday.
I
think
all
this
on
the
agenda
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
anissa
for
next
friday
would
be
finishing
up
the
housing
in
public
facilities.
B
I
had
two
questions
for
you
or
one
comment.
I
don't.
I
was
my.
I
just
fell
on
the
work
preserve
on
their
placements
application
number.
Eight
teresa
asked
what
their
sales
were
like
in
the
first
paragraph
of
the
fundraising
initiative,
which
they
seem
to
have
taken
very
seriously.
They
totally
went
into
detail
about
this,
which
a
lot
of
other
places
don't
just
say
that
they
live
for
funding
anyway,
they
said
the
significant
elements
had
its
best
year
in
its
30-year
history.
Sales
were
up
17
from
the
previous
year,
so
that's
2020..
C
B
You
know
their
essential
worker-ness
and
it
talks
about
at
the
bottom
with
some
information
about
their
allocations
from
donations
and
stuff
to
this
program.
Anyway,
I
did
want
to
ask
you
for
guidance.
Do
you
want
me
to
raise
a
number
of
questions?
B
A
I
I
would
think
that
the
questions
we
raised
are
questions
that
other
members
of
the
board
would
would
have
and
would
benefit
from
hearing
the
answers,
and
I
know
that
members
of
the
committee,
though,
aren't
always
able
to
attend
the
public
hearings.
I
I
think
teresa
and
paulette
did
last
year,
so
I'd
hate
to
have
you.
You
know
miss
miss
hearing
some
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
so
I'll.
You
know
I'll
tracy
now
be
at
the
meeting,
so
I'll
defer
to
you,
know
teresa
and
fernando
or
paulette.
A
C
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
they
know
what
you
know.
What
our
concerns
are,
what
our
questions
are,
but
not
necessarily
report
back
or
anything
yeah
yeah,
we'll
hear
from.
D
Any
you
of
feedback
we
can
get
by
next
week
would
be
helpful
in
deliberations.
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
it
needs
to
be
in
an
official
report,
but
even
if
they
can
relate
to
you
hey,
you
know
we'd
rather
be
cut
the
stipends
and
the
salaries,
and
then
we
know
that
you
know.
B
B
E
D
The
three
that
are
seven,
eight
nine,
are
the
three
that
are
really.
You
know
that
we
discussed
today
that
are,
we
have
all
the
questions
because
cuts
are
going
to
have
to
come.
A
Okay,
so
let's
we'll
move
on
to
the
the
grant
and
loan
and
lease
summaries
and
then
the
staff
report.
B
A
H
We
don't
know,
but
the
the
small
business
resiliency
fund
is
ready
for
our
disbursement,
which
is
140
000,
so
we'll
that
will
get
us
probably
meet
the
requirement
right.
Ncira
has
disbursed
that
140
000
to
afco
they've
submitted
all
the
documentation
necessary.
So
I
don't
think
we
have
any
problem
meeting
the
spend
down
by
june
1st.
A
H
I
think
it's
june
1st
yeah
and
additionally
inhs
has
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
their
homeowner
rehab
projects
and
are
submitting
those
for
reimbursement
now
as
well.
So
those
were
two
large
pending
projects
waiting
for
disbursements.
D
B
A
Okay,
anything
of
note
on
the
loan
repayments.
I
see,
we've
got
a
couple
past
dues.
H
I'll
just
comment
on
those,
since
that's
something
that
I
work
with
more
than
than
anissa.
Those
are.
Those
are
small
amounts
past
due
we're
moving
from
the
interest
only
period
that
we
provided
during
covid
initial
covert
period
towards
principal
and
interest
and
that
transition
point's
a
little
bit
rocky
because
some
of
them
have
automatic
payment
programs
and
they
they
fall
behind
and
our
loan
servicer
cannot
apply
partial
payments.
H
So
if
you
have
a
personal
payment,
that's
not
it's
if
it's
99
of
the
payment
due
if
it
doesn't
get
applied
and
shows
up
as
past
due
and
that's
the
case
with
both
of
these,
there
were
some
partial
payment
issues.
So
the
state
theater
one
is
correct-
is
current
now
and
the
canopy
hotel
one
is
being
worked
out
between
mit
and
the
borrower.
H
I
might
as
well
jump
in
on
that
one
too,
because
those
are
those
are
current
too,
as
as
now
they're,
they
come
in
a
couple
days
late
after
they're
due
so
our
accountant.
You
know
tracks
them
as
past
due
but
they're
current
one
issue
with
ribs,
though
at
south
side
community
center
is
they've,
received
about
five
sidewalk
violations
for
snow
removal.
So
that's
adding
cost
to
them
that
we
don't
have
to
pay
we're
technically
the
you
know
we
receive
the
notices,
but
the
south
side.
H
Community
center
is
responsible
for
snow
removal
and
it's
a
tough
parcel
at
the
corner
of
buffalo
and
meadow,
because
the
snow,
plows
and
meadow
push
the
snow.
H
The
sidewalk,
but
my
experience
was
that
the
violations
also
included
the
buffalo
street
component
of
that
property
as
well
so
they're
aware
of
that,
and
they
they
were
very
much
looking
forward
to
spring.
I
think,
even
though
I
recommended
you'd
be
ahead
of
the
game,
if
you
hired
a
service
yeah,
I
think
they
were
trying
to
do
it
internally
and
that
was
that
was
challenging.
A
F
Just
on
the
subject
of
snow
shoveling,
it
hasn't
also
been
shoveled
at
the
property
that,
I
think
is
ours.
At
the
corner
of
plain
and
estee
that
lot
the
neighbor
said
you
know
it's
where
the
house
was
taken
down,
the
nice
egg
or
whatever
it
was
the
coal
tar
project.
B
I
will
keep
it
short
for
you,
so
attending
the
ed
meeting
was
very
interesting.
One
thing
I
pointed
out
that
is
that
sometimes
in
the
public
input
sessions
I
get
for
the
for
the
action
plan.
We,
it
seemed
to
me
that
we
had
a
higher
the
number
usual
number
of
questions
related
to
economic
development,
and
I
know
that
ed
would
like
to
see
a
greater
diversity
of
applications
in
that
in
that
category
and
edie
is
very
busy,
and
but
they
have
a
ton
of
expertise.
B
So
chris
is,
it
seems,
like
the
committee
is
willing
to
think
about
aiding
me
with,
like
a
template
of
information
that
if
you
know
people
that
I
encounter
you
know
who
might
be
interested
in
applying.
If
they
have
this
level
of
information,
then
they
could
come
to
ed
and
kind
of
ask
for
some
guidance,
because
ed
did
mention
that
they
wish
that
bs
buffalo
street
books
had
come
to
them,
maybe
in
august
to
talk
about
through
some
of
the
the
questions
that
they
had
to
better
prepare
them
for
our
type
of
funding.
B
So
I
think
that
will
be
great.
I
think
that
would
be
wonderful.
I'm
very
excited
that
they're
willing
to
think
about
that.
As
far
as
our
anti-displacement
project,
not
hud
entitlement
but
and
the
mayor's
for
guaranteed
income,
we've
been
trying
to
poor
work
working
with
both
enterprise
community
partners
and
mayors
for
a
guaranteed
income.
B
Hsc
has
now
signed
their
lease
or
not
at
least
we're
just
talking
about
lisa's
contract
with
enterprise,
canadian
partners
to
start
that
eviction,
anti-displacement
eviction
and
displacement
defense
project
they
are,
they
have
issued
the
posting
for
one
of
the
positions
they'll
be
interviewing
next
week,
we're
in
conversations
with
mayors
for
a
guaranteed
income,
as
as
we've
noted,
they
are
willing
to
give
500
000
to
this
community
for
a
project.
B
We
have
to
find
a
little
bit
more,
so
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
imaginations
about
that,
but
the
first
community
to
do
guaranteed
income
projects.
Stockton,
california,
their
preliminary
findings
from
the
university
of
pennsylvania,
evaluators
have
been
researching.
It
have
been
released
some
very
interesting
stuff
there
about
how
people
they've
had
a
public
facing
dashboard,
the
entire
time
where
people
can
see
how
people
are
using
their
money
isn't
on
food
is
on
child
care.
B
Is
it
on
something
that
you
don't
want
people
spending
money
on
and
in
a
very
low
income
population,
12
percent
of
people
move
from
being
on
or
underemployed
to
being
employed.
So
40
of
those
folks
that
are
receiving
this
income
made
are
now
employed
at
you
know
full
employment
status,
which
is
a
pretty
big
gain
for
for
the
population,
so
that
was
so
there's
some
interesting
stuff
on
the
web.
About
that,
if
you're
interested,
I
could
include
it,
you
know
include
some
links
or
something.
Charles
has
expertise
been
called
upon.
B
He's
provided
some
templates
and
information
to
hsc.
We
have
some
complicated
contracts
and
charles
is
the
master
of
that,
so
he
was
willing
to
provide
some
of
that.
I
will
say
the
anti-eviction
and
defense
advisory
board
was
able
to
nab
a
newly
retired
person
in
the
community
who
can
join
the
board
with
with
his
expertise,
as
carl
has
agreed
to
join
that
board
and
it's
a
great
advisory
board.
B
They're
really,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
expertise
there,
so
I
feel
really
good
about
that
and
feel
really
bored
about
getting
this
big
win
with
our
new
advisory
board.
B
Member
and
I
would
I
would
say
that
there
is
a
dizzying
array
of
good
problems
to
have
right
now
with
trying
to
roll
out
the
anti-displacement
initiatives,
because
the
us
treasury,
as
you
might
be
aware,
is
the
dalia
alluded
to
this-
is
going
to
be
releasing
funding
that
people
up
to
80
of
ami
can
access
for
up
to
12
months
of
arrears,
which
is
really
amazing.
So
there's
that
and
then
on
the
kind
of
guaranteed
income
side.
B
The
new
stimulus
bill
that
was
passed
includes,
as
you
know,
300
per
child
throughout
the
us,
which
is
pretty
amazing,
so
we're
trying
to
think
strategically
about
how
to
identify
or
re
reorient
the
program
so
that
the
funding
that
we
have
available
to
provide
direct
direct
assistance
to
people
can
be
maximized.
Whether
that
means
perhaps
trying
to
find
populations
that,
like
maybe
it's
elderly
people,
maybe
it's
people
coming
out
of
foster
care
to
get
money
directed
at
them
that
you
know
they
might
need
most
during
this
time.
H
One
one
piece
of
new
information
that
I
don't
even
know
if
nisa
has
digested
yet,
but
the
american
rescue
plan
that
was
recently
adapted
the
1.9
trillion
stimulus
bill
includes
funding
for
home
program.
So
normally
each
budget
year,
there's
about
a
billion
dollars.
They've
allocated
five
billion
dollars
for
home
funding
in
the
in
the
action.
H
It
appears
it's
kind
of
earmarked
for
homeless
assistance,
which
is
a
little
funny
because
the
home
program
only
funds
permanent
and
transitional
housing,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
it
works.
They
gave
an
example
of
acquiring
a
hotel
for
to
make
it
an
emergency
shelter
which
sounds
an
awful
lot
like
the
saint
john's
community
services.
Application
does
so
we'll
have
to
find
out
a
lot
more
about
that,
but
the
national,
low-income
housing
coalition
did
a
calculation
of
of
applying
the
formula
and
they
came
up
with
ithaca
receiving
over
a
million
dollars
through
that
allocation.
C
H
B
A
Okay,
so
we
meet
again
in
one
week
next
friday,
8
30,
and
we
will
then
continue
with
our
one
of
our
most
important
jobs
which
is
distributing
this
funding.
It
probably
I
guess
it
is
our
most
important
job.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
for
the
work
you
put
into
this
and
I'll
see
you
all
next
friday,
okay,.
F
I
got
one
question,
so:
do
you
think
that
next
week
we're
going
to
start
actually
lining
things
up
to
come
out
with
the
right
amounts
of
money?
Because
if
we
are,
I
love
it
when
we
have
one
of
those
spreadsheets
that
if
you
fill
something
it
you
know,
starts
adding
itself
up
and
you
come
down
to
the
end
and
you
see
what
you
really
got.
So
I
don't
know
if
we're
doing
that
next
week
or
not.
B
What
I
will
say
is
in
past
years,
what
you've
done
is
you
do
your
preliminary
stuff?
Then
you
go
to
the
public
hearing.
Then
we
did
that
after.