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B
A
Right,
okay,
yeah
yep,
all
right,
hang
on
just
a
second
I
got
a
record
all
right.
All.
C
Right
go
ahead.
Awesome
all
right,
welcome
everybody
to
July
16
2020
special
meeting
of
the
Planning
Board,
where
we
will
be
discussing
only
two
projects.
Tonight:
Green
Street
projects
we're
doing
this
because
of
their
size
and
impact
and
timing.
We
have
a
few
different
things
to
discuss.
So,
let's
just
start
with
getting
the
Asteria
project
in
here
and
I
will
frame
the
conversation
by
saying
we're
gonna
try
to
limit
the
entirety
of
it
to
about
an
hour
and
we'll
start
with
getting
an
update
on
the
conference
center
and
we'll
leave
a
little
room
for
board.
C
Q&Amp;A
then,
and
then
we'll
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
on
design,
we'll
leave
room
for
board
Q&A
after
that
and
as
everybody's
joining
hello
to
the
Widom
team
to
the
Astari
team.
I
want
to
make
note
that
we
did
receive
some
public
comment
via
letters.
There
are
four
or
five
of
them,
I
think
there
is
no
public
hearing
for
this
project
now
or
public
comment
period
tonight.
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
received
those
and
we
could
talk
about
them
more
at
our
regular
meeting
in
in
two
weeks.
C
But
one
thing
that
I
do
want
to
say
in
response
to
everybody
who
wrote
to
us
is:
firstly,
thank
you
for
your
vocal
support
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
The
Planning
Board
completely
agrees
with
that
and
supports
it
and
wants
more
affordable
housing.
We
are
doing
our
due
diligence
with
design.
There
was
a
comment
that
we
are
doing
over
aesthetics,
but
that
is
entirely
our
role
as
Planning
and
Development.
C
Board
is
to
discuss
aesthetics,
because
we
understand
that
no
wall
is
as
important
as
affordable
units
inside
of
it,
but
that
every
building
in
the
city
is
something
that
is
experienced
by
every
resident
and
every
visitor
from
every
walk
of
life.
And
so
it
is
our
task
to
make
sure
that
those
buildings
are
usable
and
beautiful
and
fit
with
the
context
of
the
city,
and
we
we
have
authority
over
design.
C
Now,
a
little
bit
more
context
about
the
decision-making
process,
how
the
and
help
for
how
the
conference
center
is
impacting
and
informing
the
design
of
this
building,
and
so
I
will
leave
the
intro
at
that
and
hand
it
over
to
the
Astari
team
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
conference
center
and
then
we'll
take
it
from
there.
And
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
to
me.
B
D
So
good
evening,
everyone
thanks
for
joining
us
here
and
as
I
sorry
I
was
a
little
distracted.
Getting
my
computer
set
up.
I
was
listening
to
the
YouTube
thing
waiting
for
our
turn,
but
it's
lags
behind
a
little
bit.
So
I
was
a
little
late
coming
on
here,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
the
intro
Kate
and
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
I'm
share
my
screen
and
pull
up
a
PowerPoint
presentation
that
we're
going
to
go
through
and
we'll
start
out
very
quickly
with
screen,
81
PowerPoint
and
then
we'll
start
presentation.
D
The
low
overall
history
of
the
project
I'll
make
this
very
very
quickly
and
then
we're
at
Toms
talk
a
little
about
the
conference
center
and
then
I'm
gonna
walk
us
through
the
last
time.
We
met
the
Planning
Board
Chair.
D
This
is
just
a
sort
of
a
high-level
list
of
all
the
milestone,
dates
and
meetings
and
approvals,
but,
as
you
can
see,
were
a
couple
years
into
this
now
reminder.
We
are
here
for
affordable
housing.
That's
a
casino
group.
That's
housing
for
the
greater
good
is
how
we
put
ourselves
out
in
the
community.
Every
project
we
touch
has
to
address
a
broader
issue.
D
Ethica
has
identified
the
need
for
conference
center,
and
so
that
team
and
that
group
has
started
on
a
mission
statement
to
be
a
primary
economic
and
economic
recovery
engine
and
so
I
think
that's
really
important
part
of
this
project.
That
mission
was
a
little
bit
adjusted
in
March,
but
clearly
it's
either
economic
recovery
or
economic
development.
However,
you
want
to
look
at
it.
D
Everybody
knows
what
the
project
looks
like
and
what
we're
doing
here,
residential
over
conference
center
with
a
garage
expansion
and
the
Ithaca
properties
over
farther
to
the
east,
a
little
bit
about
the
lot
line,
adjustments
and
and
planing
of
the
projects
of
the
blue
area,
big
blue
rectangle,
underneath
the
gray
shades
and
the
bottom
section
down
here-
is
generally
the
property
that
we
intend
to
have
transferred
to
vecino
for
development.
The
upper
screen
up
here,
the
yellow,
is
all
city-owned
property
at
this
point
in
time.
D
Our
schedule
is
that
where
he
see
through
here,
the
little
green
dots
marching
down
the
thing
here
are
our
city
and
Planning
Board
approval
processes.
The
blue
lines
are
designing,
see
we're
well
into
the
process
of
doing
starting
construction
documents.
Now
we're
going
to
go
through
some
bidding
process
towards
the
end
of
the
year
and
permitting
and
then
start
demolition
and
construction
early
next
year
with
that
Tom
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
you,
and
have
you
tell
the
group
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
where
we
do
from
a
compensator
development
standpoint
thanks.
E
Bruce
and
thanks
the
Planning
Board
for
the
invitation,
so
you
know
back
when
I
worked
for
the
county
tourism
program,
we
started.
Looking
at
the
question
of
you
know:
could
it
should
we
have
a
conference
center
in
Ithaca
and
we've
done
two
two
studies
at
this
point
as
a
community
one
in
2016,
one
2018-19,
both
by
the
national
firm
100
strategic
partners
and
the
first
study
came
back
with
basically
an
answer.
E
First,
you
know
you
basically
having
a
certain
size.
Comps
from
the
llao
ballroom
allows
you
to
bid
on
more
business,
and
so
you
know
you
just
make
yourself
available
the
more
potential
meetings
and
conferences.
If
you
have
a
certain
size
of
ballroom.
Also,
it
has
been
important
from
the
beginning
that
we
not
have
the
new
conference
center
take
business
from
from
other
venues.
D
E
E
You
need
to
have
sizable
pre
function
space.
You
know
you
need
to
have
sizable
overall
leasable
space
and
those
are
the
the
meeting
rooms
on
the
first
floor
and
the
pre
function
space
you
need
to
have.
It
needs
to
function
well
right,
so
you
need
to
have
good
back-of-the-house
facilities
for
circulation,
storage,
loading.
E
All
of
that
meeting
planners
are
going
to
be
deciding
whether
to
locate
their
conferences
in
Ithaca,
on
the
basis
of
how
many
people
that
can
have
in
the
space,
but
also
how
well
is
this
function
and
can
I
provide
a
good
experience
for
for
my
for
my
conference.
Goers
gotta
have
a
big
kitchen
to
be
able
to
serve
a
lot
of
people
good
food
quickly
and
you
know
being
being
the
site
that
it
is.
E
A
lot
of
these
spaces
have
already
been
squeezed
and
compromise
has
been
made,
and
certainly
from
perspective
of
those
looking
at
feasibility
of
conference.
Are
it's
pretty
important
that
it
not
be
squeezed
further,
although
there
is
a
consensus
that
what
we
have
now
can
work
as
long
as
it
doesn't
further
decrease
in
size.
E
My
downtown,
you
know,
the
proximity
to
a
major
cluster
of
hotels
is
really
important.
A
lot
of
conference,
centers
I'm
sure
many
of
you
many
conferences
right
there.
They
they
are
at
they're,
within
a
hotel
with
a
lot
of
rooms
on-site.
This
is
a
standalone
facility.
It
needs
to
have
a
lot
of
rooms
very
close
to
the
conference
center
to
function.
We
have
600
rooms
right
in
the
downtown
within
a
block
or
two
of
this
site,
and
that's
that's
really
important.
E
Obviously
it's
close
to
the
Commons
and
people
are
people
are
really
going
to
enjoy
the
experience
of
being
close
to
all
that
we
have
here
in
the
downtown
and
that's
a
driving
factor
for
for
these
decisions,
so
just
to
kind
of
wrap
here
you
know
and
and
reiterate
what
Bruce
already
said.
You
know
we've
this.
This
some
has
been
the
result
of
a
process
that
started
with
the
city
in
the
I/o
area.
Seeing
the
rfp
redevelop
the
garage
say
lot
of
discussions
by
council
by
the
I.
You
are
a
about.
E
This
project
was
determined
that
it
was
a.
It
was
a
priority
and
he
selected
the
developer
was
selected.
You
know,
apparently,
on
the
basis
of
the
conference
center
being
a
portion
a
part
of
their
proposal.
The
funding
is
coming
from
a
new
city,
hotel
room
I
can
see
tax
plus
a
lot
of
other
funders
and
and
these
agreements
and
details
and
arrangements
there's
also
a
five
million
dollar
state
grant
are
really
tied
to
and
baked
into
this
site
and
the
project
pro
forma.
E
And
the
overall
sort
of
logic
as
it
has
been
described
and
and
that's
again
all
done,
based
on
the
this
SIA
as
the
conference
center
and
so
on.
So
it's
it's
some.
It's
ready
to
move
forward.
We
have
three
years
between
now
and
when
we
will
have
a
conference
center
in
Ithaca.
The
market
certainly
is
in
flux
and,
however,
you
know
three
years
gives
us
time
to
react
to
whatever
the
future
meetings
business
is
and
the
the
project
team
is
ready
to
move
forward.
D
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
to
this
special
meeting,
because
it
really
helps
the
board
to
have
that
context
and
understand
the
rationale
for
the
conference
center,
not
just
to
understand
it,
but
to
really
have
a
better
sense
of
how
it
is
informing
the
design
of
the
building,
because
that
is,
of
course,
where
our
authority
lies
to
to
look
at
the
design
and
how
it
fits
in
contextually
with
the
garage
and
next
door
buildings.
So
I'll
just
do
a
round
robin
among
board
members.
Starting
with
who
I
see
on
my
screen.
First
Emily.
F
Have
one
comment:
well,
one
question:
I
guess
I
think
Bruce
in
his
timeline
mentioned
that
the
rationale
for
for
having
the
conference
center
was
reevaluated
in
March
and
so
I
guess,
that's
just
more
of
a
comment,
I
believe
all
of
everything
Tom
just
said
and
I'm
grateful
for
that
context.
Like
McKenzie
said
and
my
comments
last
week,
we're
really
having
to
do
with
moving
forward
in
a
time
when
we
don't
know
if
conferences
are
going
to
happen,
so
it
gives
me
more
comfort
to
know
that
it
was
revalued
in
March.
So
that's
my
comment.
G
H
Can
it's
it's
a
bit
strange
right
now
when
you
look
at
across
the
country
where
you're
seeing
köppen
increases
and
why
they're
increasing
it's
from
people
gathering
together,
we
as
humans
want
to
be
together.
Yes,
we've
been
able
to
use
technology
through
this
process,
but
I
just
did
a
six-month
report
to
the
strategic
tourism
planning
board
and
we
identified
all
of
the
leads
we've
presented
throughout
for
the
last
six
months.
We
only
had
two
of
those
meetings
canceled
because
of
kovat
every
single
one
of
them
wanted
to
reschedule
it's
just
in
our
nature.
H
And
yes,
there
are
some
folks
who
may
continue
to
use
virtual
meetings,
but
for
many
industries,
it's
just
not
possible
for
them
to
conduct
their
business
or
trainings
electronically,
and-
and
so
we
we
do
know,
there
is
still
demand.
We
do
know
that
just
looking
at
a
lost
business
report
just
this
the
last
three
years,
we
have
over
three
million
dollars
worth
of
meeting
and
conference
business
that
wanted
to
come
here
that
we
had
to
say
no
to
because
we
didn't
have
the
facilities.
H
Are
we
going
to
see
a
slow
ramp-up?
Absolutely
because
safety
and
health
has
to
come
first
and
I
just
was
in
a
meeting
or
on
a
phone
call
today
with
the
state
of
Connecticut
with
their
governor,
because
there
is
so
much
demand
for
in-person
meetings
and
events.
The
industry
was
trying
to
to
advise
the
governor
or
find
information
to
help
the
governor
make
an
informed
decision
on
when
to
reopen
in-person
markings
I
hope
that
answered.
It
was
a
lot
of
information,
but
I
hope
that
answered
what
you
needed.
H
E
E
There
there's
a
lot
of
companies
that
are
going
to
all
distributed
teams
in
order
to
have
a
company
culture
that
works
and
to
be
able
to
bring
their
teams
together
in
one
space
they're
going
to
have
to
have
meetings
because
they
won't
necessarily
all
be
in
the
same
place
at
once
in
their
headquarters.
So
that's
an
interesting
trend
to
see
how
that
impacts.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
Tom
and
Thank
You
Peggy.
Let's
keep
going
around
with
board
questions
and
answers.
Mitch.
I
Don't
really
have
a
question,
I
would
just
say,
I
appreciate
the
thoughts
about
how
this
is
a
urban
site
and
the
importance
of
the
walkability
and
the
vibrancy
of
downtown.
And
you
know
when
you
see
conference
centers,
often
you
think
of
standalone
buildings
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
parking
on
the
periphery
of
a
city,
and
this
one
in
particular
is
complicated
because
you
have
this
fantastic,
affordable
housing
component
mix,
youth
mixed-use
with
a
conference
which
is
a
complicated
project.
I
J
No
just
getting
a
chance
to
look
at
the
recent
report,
so
thanks
thank.
C
J
K
I
I
don't
have
any
additional
questions.
Just
like,
like
my
colleagues,
I,
really
appreciate
getting
this
information,
it's
very
helpful
and
I
would
just
you
know,
emphasize
I.
Think
Mitch's
comment
about
the
location
of
the
proposal
and
the
mixed
use.
Nature
of
the
building
I
think
are
also
big
bonuses.
Thanks
yeah.
C
Thank
you,
I
agree
with
everything
as
well.
It's
really
valuable
to
have
more
walkable
spaces,
downtown
things
for
locals
and
visitors
alike
and
of
course
the
board
is
strong
advocates
for
mixed-use
and
especially
affordable
housing.
So
we're
we're
really
happy
that
the
city
is
moving
forward
with
this
you
know,
and
with
that
Bruce
or
Kate
or
whoever
is
gonna
present
the
next
piece
to
us.
Please
go
ahead
and
let's
talk
about
the
setback
and
design
and
we've
got
about
thirty
minutes
left.
C
D
D
So
if
we
get
into
some
technical
details,
I
may
defer
back
to
him
much
like
Tom
did
with
Peggy,
as
we
left
it
last
time
board
chair
would
like
us
to
look
at
what
it
would
take
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
rear
yard
setback,
and
so
this
first
screen
you
guys
have
all
seen
before
at
some
point
time.
This
is
the
project
as
it
is
designed
right
now
in
the
north
side
of
the
project.
You
can
see
very
easily
this.
This
line
up
good,
very
top
about
point
two
feet
off.
D
The
property
line
is
where
Sode
is
currently
sitting,
and
so
we
did
a
couple
drawings
and
some
sketches
so
first
floor
reduction.
So
this
is
the
first
floor
of
the
project
with
DPW
space,
the
junior
ballroom,
the
meeting
rooms,
retail
and
residential
lobby.
Essentially,
what
we
did
here
was
sort
of
a
combination
of
squeezing
the
back
of
house
spaces
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
including
the
DPW
space,
and
also
squeezing
the
junior
ballroom
by
about
five
feet,
to
gain
the
ten
feet
that
we
needed
to
be
outside
the
setback.
D
In
order
to
do
this,
we
sort
of
just
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
We
just
shoved
the
eastern
amenity
spaces
and
requirements
south
and
the
western
ones,
also
south
and
and
just
sort
of
rearranged,
the
retail
corner
a
little
bit
and
rearranged
our
best
to
view
a
little
bit.
What
this
does
is
it
reduces
the
ballroom
by
five
hundred
square
feet
and
it
reduces
the
DPW
space
by
about
half
as
well,
not
out
an
ideal
scenario.
D
Second
option
we
looked
at
was
leaving
the
DPW
space
intact,
but
taking
all
the
space
the
ten
feet
completely
out
of
a
junior
ballroom
again.
That
then
loses
a
thousand
square
feet
off
the
that
following
space
and
the
square
footages
that
Tom
mentioned
earlier,
that
were
critical
to
marketing
and
performer
development.
D
So
that's
the
first
floor
of
the
project
as
we
go
up
to
the
ballroom
itself.
If
we
pulled
10
feet
off
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
and
basically
left
that
space,
the
rear
yard
setback
vacant,
then
we
lose
about
1,400
square
feet
out
of
the
ballroom.
There's
no
other
place
to
take
it
out
in
this
floor.
The
second
floor
this
hallway
across
the
east
west
side
of
the
north
side
of
the
ballroom,
is
required
for
egress
and
for
accessing
multiple
meeting
rooms.
D
If
we
broke
that
ballroom
up
and
the
multiple
meeting
rooms
you
have
to
have
a
way
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
some
of
those
spaces,
as
well
as
back
of
house
service
and
all
those
kinds
of
things,
the
front
of
house
is
already
pretty
tight
and
squeezed
with
our
stairs
circulation
and
pre-function
spaces,
so
it
all
had
to
come
out
of
ballroom
as
we
go
up
the
building
a
little
bit.
Something
to
understand
about
our
project
here.
So
now
we're
I
didn't
show
anything
on
the
third
floor.
D
The
third
floor
is
administrative
offices
and
storage,
and
that
can
be
very
easily
accommodated
in
this
kind
of
a
scenario.
The
fourth
floor
is
a
little
strange
because
these
yellow
lines
that
I've
got
shown
diagrammed
on
the
drawing
here.
These
are
so
this
first
fourth
floor
is
the
first
floor
of
residential
space.
D
But
if
you
can
imagine
in
order
to
span
this
ballroom
for
a
clear
span
and
not
have
any
columns
coming
down
in
the
middle
of
the
ballroom,
we
have
to
generate
some
really
big
trustees
and
if
you
can
imagine
those
trusses,
those
trusses
actually
sit
up
in
the
fourth
floor
space,
and
so
they
would
that's
where
they
are
there
and
if
we
were
to
pull
10
feet
off.
Of
that
pole,
north
side
of
the
building,
those
trusses
the
ends
of
those
trusses
and
start
to
become
exposed
outside
the
building.
D
On
the
fourth
floor,
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I'll
talk
about
in
our
solution
that
we're
proposing
here
in
a
second.
But
then,
as
we
go
up,
we
did
some
sketches
and
some
drawings
on
how
we
might
really
have
realigned
the
residential
units.
We
essentially
pulled
10
feet
from
the
north
and
instead
of
having
a
2-bedroom
unit
here
we
compare
that
to
one
bedroom.
Instead,
a
one-bedroom
on
this
corner.
We
made
that
studio
same
thing
on
the
east
and
west
wings.
We
sort
of
made
those
adjustments
all
the
way
up.
D
The
building
he
ended
up
with
217
units
I
won't
get
into
details
why
we
lost
the
one
specific
unit,
so
we
went
from
218
the
217
and
we
changed
our
unit
mix
a
little
bit
that
we
are
able
to
maintain
essentially
maintain
our
unit
count.
For
the
most
part,
we
did
do
some
overall
sections,
and
this
was
sort
of
a
again
and
a
couple
of
comments
that
we
heard
was,
let's
just
see
what
this
looks
like
and
so
section
number
one
up:
here's
through
home
dairy
alley.
Most
of
you
know
what
that
looks.
D
Like
section
number
two
is
located
here:
3
is
across
the
building,
east
and
west
and
then
fours
through
the
community
room,
and
so
one
of
the
things
you're
going
to
see
here
is
on
just.
We
wanted
to
show
a
little
bit
of
understanding
of
similar
scale
in
space
and
so
home
dairy
alley
here,
roughly
three
stories,
tall,
very
narrow
and
in
the
scenario
here
section
number
two
where
we
are
Herald
Square
tower
a
stair
each
hour.
D
You
know
roughly
twelve
feet
between
them
gets
really
narrow
up
through
here,
but
it's
not
much
different
in
space
wise
than
the
home
dairy
alleys.
Just
a
little
bit
taller,
the
cross-section
in
3a
over
here
you'll
see
the
City
Hall
over
here
on
to
the
left.
I
noted
these
yellow
items
in
here.
Those
are
those
trusses
I
was
talking
about
this
or
a
bump
up
into.
D
They
go
over
the
top
of
the
ballroom
space
and
then,
when
you
cut
that
section
looking
the
other
way,
this
is
the
basically
the
profile
of
the
truss
here
in
in
the
red
dashed
line.
This
section,
though,
is
cut
where
the
community
room
is
and
our
tower
steps
back
away
from
Herald
Square.
So
those
are
some
relative
thoughts
as
to
what
would
happen
if
we
in
a
current
design
scenario
you
can
see
here.
D
This
is
actually
a
drawing
from
the
Herald
Square
letter
that
we
got
last
month,
and
so,
if
we
pulled
back
10
feet,
we're
going
to
gain
we're
gonna
go
from.
You
know
roughly
14
feet
between
the
buildings
to
24
feet
between
the
towers,
but
that
would
kill
a
whole
bunch
of
a
conference
center
space
down
here
on
the
first
three
levels.
D
So
in
our
proposed
solution,
what
we've
chosen
to
do
is
simply
request
a
bit
of
a
compromise
in
that
we
would
on
the
first
floor.
One
of
the
first
things
we
would
do
is
pull
back
our
exterior
walls,
the
column
lines
in
the
column,
location
to
stay,
the
same
really
close
to
the
property
line
on
the
north
side,
but
we
pull
back
those
exterior
walls
in
order
to
let
the
columns
stand
proud
of
the
exterior
wall.
Much
like
Herald
Square
is
down
on
their
side.
D
The
columns,
of
course,
don't
align
with
theirs,
but
our
thinking
here
is
that
these
can
become
really
nice
beaches
for
public
display
of
art
along
this
along
this
walkway,
but
we'd
like
to
leave
and
are
proposing
to
leave
the
entire
first
floor.
Programmatically
the
same
as
it
is
now
and
then
on
the
fourth
floor,
again
reminding
us
that
we
have
these
these
trusses
that
run
all
the
way
through.
We
intend
on
leaving
the
fourth
floor,
pretty
much
as
it
is
just
in
order
to
make
sure
and
maintain
these
trusses.
D
We
might
consider
cutting
some
back
once
we
get
to
the
left
or
the
right
of
those
trusses,
but
the
community
room
really
needs
to
stay
intact,
like
it
is,
and
possibly
of
each
one
of
these
little
one-bedroom
sections
there.
But
as
we
get
up
to
the
fifth
through
the
twelfth
floor,
our
our
proposal
is
to
pull
back
the
tower
ten
feet.
Just
like
I
showed
you
two
few
minutes
ago,
and
so
what
that
does
in
these
sections?
You
can
see
that
we
would
have
the
first
three
floors
of
the
building
first
floor.
D
Floors
of
the
building
would
be
out
of
that
still
ten
or
twelve
foot
between
the
buildings,
but
once
we
got
to
that
point,
the
two
towers
would
be
separated
by
24
feet
and
then
down
in
the
in
the
first
floor
space.
You
can
also
see
we
sort
of
stepped
in
the
left
side
here.
Much
like
Terrell
Square
stepped
in
there
siding
provided
a
little
bit
more
breathing
room
at
the
caddesi
level
of
the
project.
D
Again
just
comparing
to
what
the
drawing
that
we
gotten
from
Carroll
square,
we
would
pull
our
first
of
all
in
a
couple
of
feet
and
be
about
50
feet
tall.
The
conference
center
spaces
would
then
take
on
and
that
fourth
floor
space
would
take
that
space
all
the
way
up
to
here
and
then
we'd
step.
The
tower
back
10
feet
a
couple
of
sketches
here.
One
of
the
other
comments
we
heard
last
time
was
maybe
a
little
bit
of
variation
on
these
metal
panels
that
we
have
on
the
back.
D
So
our
team
has
come
up
with
the
idea
of
doing
sort
of
a
variegated
pattern
on
those
where
would
be
a
couple
of
different
colors
and
that
would
wrap
around
the
entire
north
side
and
west
side
of
the
building
that
faces
City
Hall,
with
an
option
of
looking
at
some
additional
lighting
built
into
that
metal
panel
system.
So
we've
got
a
little
detail
here.
D
Note
that
our
bicycle
storages
note
is
here
on
the
corner
for
the
residents
and
that
would
have
some
transparent
elements
to
see
those
bikes
and
those
things
within
that
space
as
well,
and
so
that
was
sort
of
the
high-level
view
of
what
we're
proposing.
In
response
to
the
the
comments
we
receive
from
the
public
hearing
last
month,.
C
K
D
The
ten-foot,
mere
yard
setback
our
current
design
and
it's
hard
to
imagine
how
this
happens,
but
in
the
in
the
real-world
scenario,
this
is
not
a
square
site.
So
in
the
west
end
of
the
project
and
the
point
two
feet
off
the
property
line
or
two
tenths
of
a
foot
on
the
east
end
of
the
property,
it
would
be
at
6/10
of
a
foot
so
we're
asking
for
essentially
the
entire
10
feet,
setback
to
be
built
within
which
is
essentially
where
the
garage
is
now
so.
B
K
Alright,
well
the
reason
the
reason
I
asked
I
mean
it
is
I,
guess
there's
two
responses:
I
mean
the
first
response
is
that
none
of
us
are
on
the
BCA,
so
we're
only
kind
of
conjecturing
what
the
BCA
would
do,
and
so
obviously
that's
a
consideration
that
you're
gonna
have
way
and
I
don't
know.
You
know
how
that
would
turn
out
of
putting
the
side.
You
know
that
the
bza
issue
and
I'm
just
trying
to
kind
of
proceed
how
that
might
play
out
in
terms
of
what
what
this
board
looks
at
I
think
this.
K
This
is
a
really
substantial
and
significant
improvement
and
I
think
you've
really
listened
to
the
concerns
that
we've
had
and
I
think
you've
addressed
them
in
a
you
know,
in
a
meaningful
way.
So
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
know,
from
a
design
perspective,
I
had
I
was
really
torn
on
the
previous
one
for
reasons
I
stated
the
last
month,
but
I
feel
you
know
a
lot
better
about
it
now,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
can
get
past
the
variance
hurdle
you
know
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
K
G
I
agree
with
my
counterparts:
I
also
I'm,
glad
to
see
some
attention
to
public
spaces
and
thinking
about
areas
for
art
and
some
cultural
improvements
for
the
area
and
I.
Think
you
you're
going
in
the
direct
right
direction,
but
I'd
like
to
see
more
development
of
materiality
in
the
perspective
sketch
on
North
s,
Terry
alley,
looking
east
I
think
needs
some
work
so
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
more
development
in
that.
I
D
What's
interesting,
I
wish
I
had
it
in
front
of
me
here,
but
when
I,
when
we
first
put
this
little
presentation
together,
I
really
wanted
to
put
the
just
a
gray
model.
Next
to
this,
so
you
can
see
that
the
lines,
because
the
the
person
that
did
our
work
mark
Tuttle
who's
the
design
professional
in
this
he
actually
just
used
the
model
to
sketch
over.
So
that's
how
he
generated
that.
But
the
view
is
absolutely
correct
and
and
if
we
had
them
model,
we
could
probably
just
put
you
right
there.
I
L
D
F
I
think
your
comp,
your
presentation,
was
really
comprehensive
to
help
us
understand
why
the
ballroom
has
to
be
at
11,000
square
feet
and
so
I
feel
really
comfortable
with
the
compromise.
Like
everyone
who
said
you
know
it's
starting
to
look
lively,
you
can
see
the
sky
again.
The
fact
that
the
towers
are
pulled
back,
I
think
really
helps.
So.
Thank
you.
Yep.
C
Thanks
to
the
board
for
those
for
those
comments,
I
think
it
gives
the
applicants
a
good
idea
about
the
direction
of
going
in
and
just
to
be
totally
clear.
We
were
going
from
218
to
217,
affordable
units
and
I
assume
that
there's
some
square
footage
lost
in
total
among
the
ones
that
were
shrinking.
That
is
definitely
something
that
we
have
to
that.
C
We
have
to
consider,
and
for
the
you
know,
public
experience
and
for
neighbors
and
Herald
Square
I
do
think
that
it's
a
it's
important
to
consider
those
things
as
well,
and
we
have
you
know
we
have
new,
affordable
units
with
arthouse.
We
have
new,
affordable
units
going
in
at
the
old
Catholic
Charities
building,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
that
that
one
unit
is
not
just
a
wash
but
that
there
are
still
a
lot
of
other
available,
affordable
units
coming
into
the
market
really
soon
Bruce.
C
Do
you
have
a
number
of
that
total
square
footage
that
we're
losing,
or
maybe
just
a
little
bit
of
a
description
of
like
how
the
unit
numbers
are
changing?
How
many
have
gone
from
two
bedrooms,
one
or
one
bedroom
to
studio?
And
you
know
I
might
that
the
building
can
still
be
something
that
really
that
supports
families
that
supports
artists.
It
supports
you,
know
people
of
all
walks
of
life.
You.
C
C
You,
it
just
seems
like
a
good
piece
of
information
to
have,
but
217
okay,
great
217,
new,
affordable
units
is
still
something
that
we're
we're
so
excited
about,
and
you
know
that
the
that
the
public
experience
of
it
outside
of
the
building
can
be
a
little
bit
more
pedestrian
friendly,
and
you
know,
spacious
in
terms
of
visibility
towards
the
sky
and
stuff.
I.
Think
that
I
really
do
think
that
we're
on
the
right
track
so
Lisa
and
the
project
team.
C
I,
guess
I
have
an
open
question
around
next
steps,
and
we
know
that
you're
working
with
timelines
for
bidding
and
getting
funding,
and
we
certainly
want
to
keep
moving
along
the
along
that
timeline.
What're.
We
we
still
have
some
environmental
review
to
do-
is
that
right,
Lisa
and
we
and
we'll
have
preliminary
and
final
approval
coming
up
in
maybe
what
months
so.
A
We're
thinking
you
know,
we
weren't
sure
how
the
board
would
react
to
this
proposal.
So
now
you
know
so
I
think
that
he
has
to
be
incorporated
into
the
seeker
with
all
the
reasoning,
for
you
know
what
what
were
the
compromise
is
and
what
what
does
it
achieve?
And
then
we
have
to
deal
with
the
rest
of
the
seeker
issues.
We're
going
to
talk
about
transportation
later
tonight,
so
I'm
hoping
that
in
July
we
can.
A
You
can
have
a
pretty
good
full
draft
of
the
seeker
and
you
can
review
it
then,
and
also
maybe
you
know,
we'll
come
up
with
a
list
of
other
things
that
maybe
we
can
talk
about
and
then
in
August
do
the
secret
determination
and
then
do
preliminary
and
final
or
preliminary
whatever
you're
comfortable
with
in
September.
Okay,.
D
I'll
answer
that
it
is
really
really
it
tightens
our
timeline,
mainly
from
the
permitting
aspect
of
the
project,
so
I
mean,
as
as
we
know,
we've
gone
through
the
Ithaca
art
house
building
permit
process.
We
were
trying
to
leave
ourselves
a
little
bit
of
time
this
year
in
order
to
get
our
building
permits
squared
away
so
a
September
final
site
plan.
Approval
would
put
us
putting
the
broad
drawings
in
for
permit
right
there
at
late
September,
so
that
gives
us
essentially
two
months
to
get
a
building
permit,
which
is
going
to
be
really
tight.
D
We've
been
working
with
Mary
going
back
and
forth
on
some
questions.
We
owe
her
yet
another
meeting
to
go
through
sort
of
some
of
our
final
recommendations
for
building
separations
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we've
been
working
with
her
directly
already
Mary
Brenner
that
is,
and
so
I
feel
like
we're
on
the
right
track
of
that.
D
C
I'm
glad
that
we
are
having
this
special
meeting
tonight
so
that
we
can
I
guess
it
seems
that
the
board
will
be
tasked
with
kind
of
getting
through
the
entire
part
3
of
seeker
in
July,
which
seems
reasonable.
Now
that
we
have
we're
talking
about
transportation
tonight
and
it
seems
like
we
have
kind
of
a
full,
comprehensive
understanding
of
square
footage
and
required
setbacks
and
stuff
yeah.
C
D
K
Sorry
cuz,
you
can't
just
jump
in
real
quick,
please
pretty
so
so
I
really
like
what
you've
done.
You
know,
I
have
just
concerned
about
a
lot
of
work
going
in
this
and
it's
still
then
subject
to
the
easy,
a
decision
in
September-
and
you
know,
I
I-
think
if
you
make
the
case
to
the
BCA
that
you've
just
made
to
us
and
show
you
know
where
the
new
building
will
sit
relative
to
where
the
garage
is
now
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
you
have
a
strong
argument.
K
It
just
bothers
me
that
that
key
decision
gets
put
off
until
September,
so
what
I'm
wondering
is
and
I
haven't
gone
through
the
city
code
and
looked
at
the
fine
print
on
the
BCA,
but
I'm
just
wondering
this
any
way
you
could
you
we
have
this
thing
called
sketch
sketch
plan
review,
where
you
can
go
to
a
board
and
just
get
some
feedback
on
something
without
a
committee
without
a
final
decision
and
I'm
just
wondering.
If
there's
any
mechanism,
you
can
get
some
feedback
from
the
BCA
now,
rather
than
waiting
until
September
and
get
some.
K
G
C
M
C
Eric,
it
does
seem
like,
at
least
within
the
board,
this
boards
purview.
We
could
at
July
discuss
how
we
want
to
advocate
for
and
communicate
to
the
BCA
our
support
of
this
project,
while,
of
course
we're
not
the
final
decision
makers
on
variances.
As
most
of
you
know,
we
do
carry
some
weight
when
it
comes
to
bza
decisions
and
if
they
know
that
we
have
gone
through
a
thoughtful
design
process
and
are
in
support
of
the
10-foot
setback,
then
hopefully
it
would
help
them
to
feel
positively
about
it
as
well
and
yeah.
C
Just
a
reminder
to
the
public
to
to
you
know,
thank
those
that
wrote
letters
of
support,
those
those
are
meaningful.
We
often
don't
get
letters
of
support,
so,
if
you're
into
it,
let
us
know
and
I
think
that
that
does
help
to
to
sway
decision-making
in
certain
cases
or
at
least
adjust.
You
know,
bolstered
decision-making,
I'll,
say
I,
ask.
A
C
And
they
also,
they
have
conversations
with
neighbors.
They
invite
neighbors
to
the
table
and
have
a
question-and-answer
session
with
people.
I
want
to
say
within
200
feet.
So
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
we
had
of
concern
regarding
the
setback
were
from
Herald
Square
from
the
yellow
deli.
Formerly
the
ma
che
factor
so
I
I
would
I
can
only
imagine
that
they
would
also
feel
you
know
more
encouraged
by
this.
Current
design
can.
L
I
add
one
other
thing
in
terms
of
the
pca
and
the
10-foot
setback
they're
familiar
with
this
setback,
it's
a
fairly
common
thing
in
this
area.
Herald
Square
got
one
marry.
It
got
one,
it's
sort
of
an
antiquity:
the
10-foot
setback
right
in
the
middle
of
the
core.
So
so
again
that
should
put
us
in
in
a
fairly
clear
context
of
other
projects
in
the
area.
Okay,.
C
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
feedback
and
comments.
We're
sort
of
right
on
time
so
well
done
for
having
us,
yeah,
really
efficient,
but
comprehensive
conversation
and
I
think
that
your
team
is
invited
to
stay
because
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
transportation
with
our
other
Green
Street
project
and,
of
course,
it's
relevant
I.
Don't
know
if
any
of
you
plan
to
stay
or
not,
but
Lisa
is
gonna,
probably
invite
the
other
the
Rimland
team
in
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
and
framing
for
the
transportation
discussion.
A
D
C
O
L
O
A
So
you
had
it
when
you
go
through
the
part
three
you
can
refer
to
those
so
I
think
one
of
the
important
things
to
understand
as
like
an
overview
for
the
parking.
Is
that
I
mean
for
the
transportation,
which
really
is
a
lot
of
it's
about
parking?
Is
that
the
city
is
undertaking
a
transportation
and
parking
study
for
downtown
right
now,
and
that
was
why
we
got
this
excellent
inventory
and
from
Stantec.
A
You
know
we're
not
going
to
build
another
parking
garage.
So
how
do
we
manage
what
we
have
and
we
probably
have
more
than
we
think
so?
That's
really
the
goal
and
there's
there
will
be
lots
of
development.
In
terms
of
you
know,
what
are
the
strategies
we
can
use
for
that
those
haven't
been
done,
but
right
now
they
have
completed
the
inventory
and
kind
of
started
to
model
future
demand
and
how
we
can
manage
that
so
I
thought
that
was
you
know
as
I
was
putting
this
together.
I
thought
you
know.
A
A
So
you
know
that
there's
really
two
issues
in
the
in
the
impacts
for
transportation.
So
there's
you
know,
there's
the
impacts
that
might
happen
because
of
the
two
projects:
increasing
demand
on
every
all
modes
of
transportation
and
parking
and
deliveries
parking,
pedestrian
bike
traffic.
All
of
it.
So
there's
that
and
then
and
then
there's
the
impacts
for
the
construction
impacts
and
the
construction
impacts
really
focus
around
the
fact
that
you
know
the
whole
of
this
block
of
Green
Street
will
be
a
construction
zone.
A
A
The
green
Grudge
will
not
be
closed
for
the
whole
time
and
there
will
be
different
levels
of
parking
during
that
time,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
management
and
mitigation
and
so
yeah.
So
so
that's
kind
of
the
overview.
And
again
you
know
two
of
the
big
background.
Things
are
the
parking
study
which
I
already
referred
to,
and
also
just
also
the
concept
that
this
is
our
downtown
core.
A
It's
the
hub
of
our
transportation
system
and
so
city
has
also
been
working
to
increase
the
density
in
downtown,
because
that
has
has
been
what
people
have
said.
They
wanted
more
housing,
more
density
in
the
downtown,
that's
where
they
want
it,
so
the
ability
to
X
other
types
of
transportation
than
a
single
occupancy
vehicle,
so
I
think
that
gives
you
a
decent
overview
of
it.
If
you
want
to
can
kind
of
go
through
page
by
page
or
you
can
ask
questions
or
look
at
things
or,
however,
you
want
to
deal
with
it.
Well,.
B
A
C
C
Thinking,
probably
we
just
go
through
it
together
since
we're
all
here,
it
is
pretty
dense.
One
question
that
I
have
that
may
not
be
able
to
be
answered
now
is
about
the
Green
Street
bus
station
and,
if
that's
gonna
be
kind
of
its
permanent
home
for
a
while
or
if
buses
are
gonna
be
elsewhere.
That
seems
that
that
could
have
an
impact
so.
A
H
A
That
is
going
to
remove
the
bike
lane
from
Green
Street
and
shift
all
the
traffic
to
the
north
and
so
or
the
South.
Sorry,
and
so
the
cheek
at
bustles
will
have
enough
room
to
operate
as
they
normally
do.
But
we
are
looking
into
right
now
whether
the
inner
city
buses
will
have
enough
room
or
whether
they'll
need
to
be
moved
somewhere.
C
C
C
A
C
A
D
When
I
looked
at
that
last
time,
McKenzie,
it
seemed
like
and
I'm
I'm
on
our
bike,
ped
committee
here
in
my
hometown,
so
I
get
what
you're
saying
it
looked
to
me
like.
There
would
be
a
fairly
easy
detour
to
go
along
the
trail
at
six
mile:
three,
yes
and
do
a
detour,
maybe
there's
some
signage.
It
should
go
with
that
detours.
Part
of
the
construction
process
right.
C
A
So
the
conference
center
is,
one
of
the
you
know
will
be
a
will
add
demand
to
the
downtown
parking,
but
it's
also
people
who
go
to
the
conference
center.
We've
learned
also
stay
at
the
hotels
and
the
conference
center
will
manage
the
parking
so
that,
if
it
isn't
sufficient
parking
in
the
downtown,
they
will
have
somebody
on
staff
to
manage
remote
parking.
If
it
that's
needed.
A
A
A
A
D
D
I
C
G
K
I,
don't
know
when
is
the
appropriate
time
to
do
this,
but
at
least
for
me
it
would
be
helpful
if
at
some
point
either
Lisa
or
Joanne
could
talk
us
through
table
one
to
the
extent
that
any
of
the
projects
in
Table
one
I'm
not
familiar
with
all
of
them
in
the
parking
study,
but
to
the
extent
that
any
of
those
projects
would
would
affect
what
we're
looking
at
now.
If
you
could
kind
of
just
us
a
little
bit
about
it,.
K
A
So
that
is,
that
is
that's.
Those
are
the
parameters
for
their
study.
They
took
into
consideration
this
big
large
proposed
project
at
Gateway
that
will
have
a
parking
garage.
It
is
they're
going
to
build
a
parking
garage
and
with
400
cars,
but
they'll
need
some
of
them,
so
they
will
be
increasing
the
parking
supply
they're
using
that
as
as
part
of
their
model,
you
know
I
and
I.
Think
that's
fine
to
do
that.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
yeah
I
think
that
I'll
just
make
sure
you
get
the
PowerPoint
that
kind
of
consolidates
all
of
this,
and
so
it
sees
a
little
bit
easier
to
digest.
Yeah.
A
I
mean
I
found
this
like
the
table,
one
here
really
interesting.
It
was
the
you
know,
occupancy
rate
of
garage
and
how
many
spaces
are
actually
available
at
the
peak
hour,
and
this
was
the
status
collected
in
November
of
last
year.
So
it
doesn't
account
for
the
condition
right
now,
which
is
we're
at
like
fifty
percent
of
that
we're
at
50
percent
we're
50%
below
what
we
normally
are
and
that's
probably
going
to
continue
through
some
of
the
construction,
particularly
when
the
garage
is
done.
C
I
It's
kind
of
a
key
sentence:
they're
based
on
the
completed
inventory.
It
appears
that
there
is
ample
parking
to
serve
the
needs
of
downtown
residents,
workers
and
visitors,
that
is,
for
the
future
build-out
scenario
of
that
of
the
table1
projects,
correct.
So
in
split
Herald
Square.
It
includes
at
the
Sterry
that
includes
the
Rimland
project.
It.
A
Actually
I
got
a
letter.
I
didn't
send
it
to
you,
because
I
got
it
at
like
4
o'clock
and
it
overloads
you,
but
I
already
got
a
letter
from
Peggy
Coleman
who
presented
to
you
tonight
talking
about
how
they
would
do
that
and
who
would
be
responsible
for
it
and
how
they
would
price
it,
and
all
that
enough.
That
will
be
in
your
next.
That
will
give
you
that
for
next
week,
ok.
B
C
C
It's
a
perception
issue
that
there's
no
in
this
parking,
something
to
address
that
I'm,
not
sure
that
that's
necessarily
the
applicants
job
as
part
of
this
project,
but
it's
just
something
that
I'm
kind
of
bookmarking
for
the
board
to
think
about
in
the
future
and
I
know
that
Garrick,
you
brought
a
lot
of
signage
issues
around
parking
to
the
board
before
so.
Maybe
we
can
pick
that
up
for
internal
discussion
sometime
around
how
we
might
want
to
communicate
parking
supply,
parking
demands
and
other
transportation
options
to
residents
and
visitors
of
the
city.
So.
D
I
sit
on
our
downtown
CID
board
and
local
downtown
Springfield
Association
that
you're
equivalent
to
the
DIA,
so
I
sit
on
a
CID
and
and
a
merchant
or
merchant
based
activity
organization,
and
it's
just
a
lot
of
work
to
it.
Once
you
get
a
graphic,
they
can
show
people
and
a
map
that
shows
everybody
where
it's
at
and
getting
that
out
there
and
making
it.
So
it's
easy
for
people
to
use
even
on
their
phones.
It's
just
very,
very
helpful,
but
the
perception
problem
continues
to
exist.
A
D
C
How
we'll
move
in
and
move
out
be
coordinated
for,
tenants
can
do
and
deliveries
be
accommodate
from
the
ground
floor.
These
aren't
necessarily
things
they
have
to
answer
right
now,
but
just
yeah
as
you're
preparing
materials
for
the
end
of
July
meeting.
Please
make
sure
to
touch
upon
these
so
that
we
can
have
a
full
mitigation
list.
Lisa
will
incorporate
it
in
here
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
transit.
Pedestrians,
agree,
there's,
no,
no
negative
impact,
I
mean
I've,
even
say
positive
impacts
to
creating
more
pedestrian
friendly
spaces
in
kind
of
current
dead
zones.
C
A
Plan
we
actually
have
that
you
saw
I,
think
you
saw
it
last
time
and
you
saw
a
series
pedestrian
bike
plans
for
the
different
phases.
I
would
say,
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
review
those
plans.
Maybe
again,
look
at
the
mitigations
and
I
mean
there's
I
mean
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
disruption.
It's
all
about
how
we
manage
it.
Mm-Hmm.
M
D
M
P
C
A
So
so,
if
you
look
at
the
tape
of
the
paragraph
under
the
table,
that
table
just
shows
like
in
the
this
is
our
scenario
that
we're
expecting
for
when
they'll
be
parking.
But
so
we
took
the
the
inventory
looked
at
the
occupancies
of
the
garage
and
of
the
garages,
and
so
from
that
we
derived
the
fact
that
we're
losing
340
spaces,
but
only
80%
of
them
are
occupied
at
the
peak
hour.
A
So
that's
really
what
you're
concerned
about
is
the
peak
hour
noon,
and
so,
therefore,
we
need
and
and
bik's
at
the
the
11
space
ground-floor
parking
is
always
fully
occupied
under
the
Green
Street
garage.
So
we
basically
need
to
replace
if
we
want
to
replace
all
the
parking
that
is
used
currently
in
Green
Street.
We
need
to
replace
293
spaces,
and
so
it
certainly
looks
like
based
on
the
occupancy
of
the
other
two
garages,
that
there
are
293
spaces
and
the
other
garages.
So
that's
good
news,
but
that's
you
know,
maybe
that's
not
enough.
A
A
And
actually
tom
has
been
look.
There's
Thomas
interviewing
has
surveyed
a
bunch
of
the
larger
employers
downtown
to
see
what
their
intention
is
for
the
next
year
with
employees
and
having
the
back
house
in
a
City
Hall
doesn't
is
planning
to
extend
the
ability
to
work
from
home.
You
know
I,
don't
we
don't
have
a
date,
but
it
could
be
a
long
time.
So
that's
really
reduced
the
parking
demands
that
will
help
a
lot
during
construction,
mm-hmm.
G
A
Would
do
that?
We
yeah
the
director
of
partners,
so
well
transfer
everybody
over
to
Seneca
and
Cayuga
garages
and
then,
if
you
look
at
number
three
we're
also
looking
at
redesignated
some
on
street
parking,
that's
currently
short-term
parking.
That
is
underutilized,
and
we
know
this
from
the
inventory.
A
We
can
redesign
eight
that
to
long-term
parking,
meaning
that
commuters
can
park
there
if
they
need
to
for
the
same
rate,
you
know
would
have
to
put
up
signage,
and
you
know,
change
the
meters
and
everything
that
they
could
park
for
the
same
rate
on
on
street
okay
and
then
I.
Think.
The
most
important
thing
is
that,
during
the
construction
period
we
will
monitor
will
monitor
occupancy
at
the
garages
and
on
the
street,
and
if
we
need
to
take
additional
measures,
we
will
take
them
we're
going
to
look
into
leasing
a
lot.
You
know.
A
L
F
A
I
I
think
that
the
drawings
that
you
have
may
show
them
they
may
be
a
conflict
in
the
drawings
like
it's
the
drawings
that
Asteria
showed
have
them
not
there,
but
the
other.
The
unified
construction
drum
hasn't
it.
It
is
our
intention
to
keep
those
there,
okay,
because
we
will
be
losing
the
parking
in
City
Hall
parking
lot.
So
we
have
to
keep
those
okay.
F
A
So
they
have
a
plan
for
shifting
traffic
to
one
lane
in
case
they
need
to,
but
I
see
702.
It's
see,
702,
that's
right,
single
lane,
closure,
short-term
plan,
I,
don't
know
if
they
anticipate
or
if
there
would
be
a
reason
to
have
to
close
all
of
it.
Certainly
if
that
happened,
did
that
happen
during
Marriot
construction
go
in
I,
don't
remember.
M
During
Herald
Square,
yes,
yet
in
the
beginning,
especially
when
they
did
these
18
hour
concrete
a
line
up.
What
we
do
is
we
require
that
all
of
the
deliveries,
particularly
when
we
know
there
will
be
a
line
of
them,
we're
pretty
much
in
contact
with
the
project
team
or
the
general
GC
every
day,
and
they
will
call
ahead
to
their
deliveries
and
then
they
have
to
communicate
to
them
to
acquire
flag
people
depending
upon
the
length
and
time
of
of
the
deliveries.
We
also
try
to
have
major
deliveries
done
before
the
AM
or
PM
peak.
M
It
doesn't
always
work
that
way,
but
yeah.
We
have
found
that
with
these
large
construction
projects,
communication
is
key
yeah
and
only
with
the
city
and
and
the
project
team
and
the
the
general
contractor,
but
also
general
contractor
with
their
vendors.
So
it
does
take
a
lot
of
hand-holding
and
when
Herald
Square
first
started,
I
was
on
the
phone,
probably
almost
four
hours
a
day,
trying
to
coordinate
everything
button.
But
it's
worth
that
to
keep
things
moving.
I
think.
A
M
A
Concrete
pours-
and
we
don't
know
the
thing
about
this
project-
these
both
of
these
projects-
they
don't
know
they
haven't
selected
their
foundation
yet
but
I
think
they're
both
going
towards
pile-driving,
so
they're
not
going
to
have
the
foundation
concrete
pours
like
the
I,
don't
know
what
we'll
have
to
ask
them.
Some
of.
M
M
C
It
out,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
stop
sharing
my
screen
and
we'll
just
recommend
to
all
of
us
on
the
board
that
we
look
again
at
those
transportation
impacts.
There's
a
lot
of
information
and
we
didn't
have
a
ton
of
time
to
review
them.
So
let's
look
at
the
parking
study
and
let's
look
at
those
transportation
impacts
and
mitigations
again
we
can
send
questions
to
Lisa.
C
We
should
be
prepared
to
move
forward
with
the
part
three
at
our
meeting
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
so
we
will
all
do
our
homework
there
and
if
there
are
no
open
questions
about
any
of
that
right
now,
that
was
a
fairly
fruitful
discussion
we
just
had
then
I
guess
we
could
probably
move
forward
with
James
or
John
or
Jared
presenting
some
of
their
projects.
Design
and
I.
Don't
know
if
the
widom
team
or
the
rest
of
the
Asteria
team
wants
to
stick
around
for
that,
but
probably
you're
welcome
to
go
at
this
point.
Yeah.
B
O
N
N
All
right,
well,
I,
would
like
to
just
start
by
going
over
the
items
that
we
did.
We
talked
about
last
meeting
and
just
make
sure
I
run
through
those
and
address
the
concerns
that
you
raised
last
time.
So
I'll
try
to
keep
it
clear
and
concise.
The
layout
has
not
changed
as
as
we're
keeping
maintained
same
plan
on
level
ones
through
through
through
the
top
floor.
N
N
Basically,
we're
looking
at
some
updated
benches
that
were
looking
at
this
is
called
the
twig
Ben
jet.
Actually
so
I
wanted
to
show
you
kind
of
the
idea
behind
the
design
is
more
of
an
organic
frontage
to
East
Green
Street,
to
kind
of
contrast,
the
straight
lines
orthogonality
make
it
a
little
more
organic
and
create
a
better
frontage
along
that
Street
at
that
corner
sort
of
mimicking
where
the
creek
is
in
a
way.
N
Some
other
items
that
we
looked
at,
based
on
one
of
your
comments,
which
was
concerned
about
the
the
parking
openings
just
looking
like
punched
openings
without
railings.
So
what
we
did
was
added
lowered
that
wall
a
little
bit,
but
it
still
hides
car
headlights.
So
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
that,
but
we're
adding
or
adding
some
railings
in
there
to
create
a
little
more
architectural
articulation
throughout
that
elevation.
N
The
signage
that
we
discussed
last
time
has
been
added.
So
if
you
look
at
this
running
riously
exit
you'll
see,
we
don't
have
the
name
of
the
building.
Yet
what
does
he
look
through
this
you'll
see
you
know,
entry
exit
currently
and
some
signage,
so
we
didn't
want
to
get
too
big
with
our
signage
or
thinking.
You
know
two
and
a
half
to
three
feet.
High
lettering
on
that
canopy
is,
will
suffice
and
just
minimizing
that
we
updated
the
Commons
elevation
based
on
Emily's
concern
about
the
grand
how
grand
it
was.
N
We
wanted
to
raise
that
parapet
a
little
bit
more
in
social
show
some
signage
on
there.
So
if
you
look
at
the
elevation
back
here,
what
we
did
was
just
elevated
that
parapet
a
little
bit
more
I'm,
probably
going
to
tweak
it
a
little
bit
more
to
widen
it
at
the
top,
but
we're
deepening
the
canopy
a
little
bit
and
making
this
a
little
larger,
because
we
do
have
have
the
room
to
do
it.
It
sort
of
separates
the
two
masses
a
bit
more.
That
way,
we
also
discussed
I
believe
CJ
wanted
to
look
at.
N
One
of
the
concerns
was
the
transformer
on
the
front
elevation,
so
we're
making
sure
that
we
have
plants
around
that.
So
you
hide
the
transformer
location.
The
transformer
location
is
not
finalized.
Yet
currently
it's
located
here,
but
we're
still
looking
at
options,
but
we're
going
to
make
sure
we
have
plants
around
it.
So.
A
John,
you
know,
we've
just
been
I,
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
we've
just
been
talking
about
this
with
another
person
who's
another
development
who's
having
trouble
with
their
transformer
having
to
be
in
a
bad
place
and
realized
that
a
green
screen
is
a
really
great
way
to
screen
a
transformer,
because
it's
very
hard
to
maintain
plants
around
a
transformer.
So
anyways
might
consider
that
okay.
N
I'm
writing
it
down.
Thank
you
and
other
than
that.
What
we've
also
added
the
roof.
Terrace
I
just
added
a
little
more
detail
to
this.
To
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
rendering
shows
as
well
so
you'll
see,
there's
planting
order
on
the
perimeter
as
you
walk
out,
there's
plants
along
the
wall
back
here,
so
it
it
just
feels
good.
But
when
you're
up
there
you're
able
to
look
over
the
plants
are
too
high,
where
it
hides
your
view
from
the
north
you're
still
able
to
look
out.
N
N
And
other
than
that,
we
also
added
a
little
little
bit
more
detail
to
the
plans
to
show
the
actual
units
in
there
and
what
I
did
was
added.
You
may
have
noticed
when
we
sent
this
last,
but
we
added
some
of
the
typical
unit
plans
in
there
just
to
get
a
comfort
level
with
the
livability
of
the
units
and
understanding
how
they
lay
out,
and
that
is
pretty
much
what
we've
added
to
this
I
will.
N
Let
you
know
that
I've
discussed
a
lot
of
this
with
Mary
Brenner
at
the
building
department,
specifically
today
as
well,
we're
going
back
and
forth,
and
we
are
finalizing
the
communication
between
ourselves
and
the
Ficino
group
with
the
property
line
issue
that
they
were,
that
they
raised
and
we're
coming
up
with
a
really
good
solution.
I
think
that'll
be
suitable
for
for
everyone,
including
this.
You
know
cell
we're
finalizing
that
I
should
have
a
final
discussion
with
Mary
tomorrow
and
move
that
forward
based
on
their
concerns.
N
There
was
some
snapshots
that
were
requested
based
on
just
farther
away,
so
looking
from
Aurora
Street,
looking
back
where
the
hotel
is
also,
we
have
some
snapshots
just
from
above
from
the
east.
It
was
hard
to
find
a
snapshot
from
the
road
that
you
can
see
all
of
this,
but
we
wanted
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit
just
to
kind
of
see
how
this
is
relates
to
the
rest
of
the
area
we
need.
We
need
to
get
the
ash,
trees
updated
massing
for
this,
and
we
got
to
share
that
back
and
forth,
but
we.
F
N
M
C
F
I
think
the
changes
are
great
I
wonder
if
there's
opportunity
for
more
plantings,
it
seems
minimal
and
if
there's
a
way
to
do
more
without
interfering
with
the
car
visibility.
That
would
be
always
welcome.
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
the
top
of
the
Rothschild
building.
It's
so
terrible
to
look
down
on
it,
and
now
we
have
lots
of
buildings
that
do
look
down
on
it.
So.
G
J
I
G
N
G
O
N
A
C
Yeah,
it's
really
nice
to
see
affordability
built
in
alongside
market
rate
housing
as
well.
I
only
have
one
question
right
now
and
it's
around
the
Green
Street
pedestrian
experience
with
like
plantings
and
seating
and
parking.
C
O
O
The
plan
there
is
no
straight
shot
through,
so
it's
to
give
more
feel
it
meanders
through
this
area
and
comes
out
to
the
other
side.
So
it's
working
its
way
around
the
landscaping
and
planners.
Currently
there's
a
couple:
Street
trees
and
a
bad
row
of
grass
that
currently
exists
out
there.
So
we're
trying
to
bring
more
life
and
keeping
with
you
know,
taking
the
edge
of
the
curb
line
of
the
road
offset
with
you
know
a
section
of
grass
for
street
trees
and
another
sidewalk.
O
It
didn't
blend
well,
for
you
know,
bringing
and
then
landscaping
in
this
area
so
and
more
activity
to
the
front.
You
know
through
conversations
with
our
planning
department
in
our
Landscape
Architects.
These
were
things
that
you
see
in
other
active
urban
areas,
stimulating
people
sitting
outside,
and
then
you
know
what
I
give
more
of
a
I
don't
want
to
use
a
creek
walk,
feel,
but
a
walkway
feel
versus
a
sidewalk
feel
in
front
of
our
facility.
Okay,.
C
K
C
G
G
M
A
little
bit
and
also
I
the
pavement
type
may
be
to
change
so
that,
if
you
are
visually
impaired
and
you
use
a
cane
or
you
use
touch
in
order
to
tell
you
where
you're
going,
that
would
be
a
way
to
navigate
that
space.
My
this
very
same
concern
the
accessibility,
it's
very
nice,
but
I
think
it
could
be
just
a
little
bit
challenging
for
some
people,
their.
N
C
N
O
A
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
you
had
submitted
them
well
go
through
and
have
I
have
I
should
make
my
camera
show
you
all
the
paper
that
I
love
helpful
reminders.
If
I
say
you
haven't,
if
I
say
I'm
missing
something
it
does
I'm
not
insulted.
If
you
say
I
already
have
it,
especially
if
you
can
tell
me
where.
N
C
Right,
well
thanks,
so
much
for
your
time
tonight,
yeah
and
thanks
the
board
for
all
of
your
feedback
and
suggestions.
I
think
we're
doing
great
work
with
these
two
project
teams
to
create
a
more
dense,
liveable,
vibrant,
downtown,
yeah
and
I.
Look
forward
to
seeing
all
of
you
in
a
couple
of
weeks
at
our
regular
meeting,
any
final
thoughts
from
staff,
Joann
or
Lisa.