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A
You
should
be,
I
mean,
I
think
we
should
be
good.
I'm
gonna
just
double
check,
but
I
will
mute
myself
and
hopefully
we
got
everything
to
work.
Put.
B
It
on
speak
speaker
view,
please,
if
it
isn't,
I
can't
tell.
B
I
think
we're
ready
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
city
of
ithaca
planning
and
development
board
to
order.
Welcome
to
our
december
21st
2021
meeting
happy
solstice
to
everybody.
May
you
enjoy
the
lengthening
of
days
lisa
anything
that
we
want
to
discuss
about
the
agenda.
Any
changes
to
the
agenda.
B
Is
the
first
item
says
recommendation
of
ega,
but
we
actually
don't
have
a
referral
from
bca.
Yet.
B
You
approval
of
minutes.
I
believe
anya
sent
me
minutes
for
two
recent
meetings
september
and
october.
B
B
B
C
B
B
I
see
a
couple
of
people
coming
in
hello.
Please
introduce
yourselves.
D
Yes,
they're
both
for
this
project
if
we
have
megan
devonport
she's,
also
part
of
this
he's.
D
All
right,
I
think
we
can
get
started
good
evening.
Everyone
we're
here
to
provide
an
update
to
our
building
signage
for
for
cayuga
park
medical
center
and
last
time
we
have
presented
a
package
to
the
board
and
we're
just
providing
some
updates
to
our
package
and
to
respond
to
the
comments
that
we
received
last
time.
D
C
D
Great
so
I
mean
we
have
provided
a
letter
to
stating
that
we're
confirmed
with
the
waterfront
design
guidelines.
We
have
been
asked
to
do
this
last
time,
so
we're
just
you
know,
listing
some
guidelines
from
from
from
the
sorry,
some
some
we're
just
you
know,
ready
to
say
that
we're
confirmed
with
the
whatever
design
guidelines.
D
So,
if
you
remember
from
last
time,
we
had
proposed
six
different
signage
for
the
building,
and
now
this
time
we
have
removed
number
one,
as
we
feel
that
that
is
the
least
important
sign
for
the
entire
building
and
with
you
all
the
other.
Five
are
equally
important
and
we
didn't
change
a
number
just
for
the
sake
of
ease
of
reference.
So
we
have
two
three
four
five
six
number
two
is
the
one
facing
northbound
of
route
13..
D
This
one
is
really
important
just
because
for
whoever
coming
from
north
front
of
earth,
13
we'll
see
that
kyogre
park,
I'm
sorry,
health
is
right
here
and
the
sun
will
be
illuminated
and
number
three
will
be.
The
one
facing
southbound
of
route
13
is
equally
important,
just
because
for
people
who
are
we're
starting
to
easily
identify
this
building
as
cuba,
health
and
then
number
four
is
this
building
percentage.
It
should
also
read
as
cnc
immediate
care.
D
You
will
see
the
text
in
the
following
short
drawings,
but
this
rendering
indicating
the
location
of
the
sign
we
feel
this
is
really
important
for
the
pedestrian
level.
Just
because
the
main
entrance,
which
is
right
here,
will
be
closed
at
six
or
five
sorry
it'll
be
closed
at
five
o'clock
and
then
this
entrance
to
the
immediate
care
will
stay
open
until
10
p.m.
So
we
feel
this
sign
should
be
stay
just
because
for
those
patients
who
are
coming
in
late
need
to
identify
this
as
the
main
entrance
after
hours.
D
Then
this
is
the
net
view.
This
will
be
internally
illuminated
as
well
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
number
one
was
removed.
This
one
was
the
one
facing
inlet
and
the
number
five
is
the
wayfinding
signage,
indicating
cable
health,
because
we
are
sharing
the
parking
lot
with
a
lot
of
other
people
like
a
department
right
next
to
us.
We
feel
that
it
is
really
important
to
indicate
this
building
is
the
key
to
health
for
both
pedestrian
and
vehicular.
D
So
number
five
is
our
sign
for
the
wayfinding
and
number
six
indicating
main
entrance.
This
is
a
little
illegible,
but
we
also
feel
that,
because
we
have
two
different
entrances,
it's
important
to
say
that
this
is
the
main
entrance
that
need
to
get
into.
If
you
are
here
and
then
this
is
the
drop-off
zone
for
the
cars
to
be
so
and
a
night
view
of
that
and
some
sections.
D
So
that's
the
one
facing
northbound
of
route
13-
and
this
is
facing
in
southbound
and
number
four-
is
the
immediate
care
on
sign
number
five
and
six.
Now
you
see
that
they
are
kind
of
found
a
90
degree
angle
facing
different
directions
of
the
sidewalk
and
road.
D
Some
more
sections-
and
this
one
was
also
requested
last
time
from
one
of
the
board
members,
so
the
upper
image
kind
of
shows
what
our
sign
will
look
like
during
the
night.
So
the
brightness
is
very
similar
to
this
one
right
here,
but
this
one
is
our
neighbor
property,
the
green
star.
So
we're
not
gonna
be
as
bright
as
this,
but
just
a
good
reference
to
provide.
D
D
D
And
we're
providing
two
specifications
cut
sheet
at
the
end,
just
in
case
anyone
from
the
board
would
love
to
know
what
kind
of
led
light
we're
using
and
that's
it
for
our
presentation.
D
If
anyone
has
any
comments,
please
let
us
know.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
bring
up
is
that
we
said
last
time
we
were
going
to
attend
the
bca
in
january,
but
we
have
been
told
from
the
city
that
we
are
being
pushed
to
february,
so
we're
not
going
to
do
that
in
january,
but
we're
hoping
that
we
are
okay
for
this
plenty
more,
so
we
don't
have
to
come
back
for
another
plenty
board
meeting.
B
Wait,
thank
you.
Well,
let's
take
it
around
to
board
members.
Let
us
know
what
your
feedback
is
to
the
removal
of
the
sign,
the
existing
signs
and
we
are
not
going
to
be
making
an
official
recommendation
to
the
bca
we
don't
have
to
this
month.
Necessarily
so,
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
see
changed,
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
for
that.
B
We
also
could
make
a
recommendation
if,
if
we
feel
comfortable
moving
forward,
so
please
share
your
thoughts
around
that
and
I'll
go
down
the
list
of
people
as
I
see
them
and
start
with
emily.
D
B
G
Yeah
thanks
for
this,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
environmental
management
council
might
have
to
say
about
the
color
temperature
of
the
leds.
I
assume
that
that
this
is
for
wayfinding
to
have
them
at
7000k,
but
they
might
prefer
the
warm
white.
I
have
no
further
common
span,
though
thanks.
H
This
looks
good,
I'm
glad
the
the
sign
on
the
back
got
removed.
I
think
that's
the
right
move,
I'm
curious
to
know
where
we
stand
with
the
variances.
I'm
still
unclear
is
exactly
what
is
over
here.
Is
it
the
number
of
signs
the
size
of
the
signs?
Can
you
just
tell
me
clearly
what
the
variances
you're
seeking.
D
H
Okay,
so
our
do
you
have
to
like
identify
which
of
the
three
you're
asking
for
or
how
does
that
work?
Lisa.
B
H
D
H
D
H
Have
followers
about
that
just
curious
what
other
buildings
are
doing
with
their
lighted
signs?
You
know
in
downtown
in
this
area
whether
that's
an
issue
for
surrounding
neighbors.
I
I
I
don't
know
how
to
answer
that,
but
just
curious.
B
D
Just
for
reference,
guthrie
is
kind
of
a
similar
thing,
we're
using
the
photocell
and
we
turned
off
to
our
after
business
hour.
So
it's
the
same
timer
and
system.
That's
this.
D
Just
leaving
of
leaving
the
light
for
some
other,
like
the
staff,
can
leave
a
little
later
after
business
hour
right
and
some
other
people
might
be
around
for
another.
I
don't
know
for
another
hour
or
so
and
steven.
Maybe
you
can
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
how
you
wanted
this
to
be.
I
Yeah
the
reason
because
it's
the
because
it's
the
immediate
care,
our
media
care
hours
are
until
10,
but
by
the
nature
of
immediate
care.
You
know
if
somebody
is
showing
up
right
at
10,
we're
not
going
to
be
sending
them
away,
so
oftentimes
we'll
be
still
be
treating
patients
until
after
that,
and
that's
why
we
were
requesting
kind
of
that
buffer,
because,
although
the
hours
say
10,
it's
not
like
a
regular
business
where
we're
just
going
to
lock
the
doors
at
10.
F
B
It
doesn't
matter
where
it
matters
like
what
the
sign,
so,
if
it
anyway
identifies
a
business,
then
it's
a
sign.
If
it
just
says
entrance,
maybe
it
wouldn't
be,
I'm
not
sure
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see
what
the
what.
F
They
say:
yeah,
okay,
be
interesting
to
know
what
they
say
about
that,
because
I
know
that
in
a
lot
of
other
buildings,
there's
plenty
of
other
signs.
You
know
around
the
building
for
different
like
suite
a
or
sweet
b,
or
you
know
so.
B
Question
that
throughout
the
property
there
are
directional
signs
and
way
finding
signs
for
cars
and
parking
signs
that
probably
have
the
logo
on
them,
and
I
am
very
curious
how
those
contribute
to
general
signage
they're,
not
on
the
building.
But
I
I
think
that's
something
that
that
we
need
to
see
in
the
zoning
analysis
as
well.
So
I
won't
say
whether
or
not
lisa
will
be
the
one.
Who
can?
B
Let
us
know
if
you
need
to
return
to
a
meeting
next
month,
but
I
think
that
the
planning
board
will
want
to
continue
deliberating
next
month
once
we
have
seen
the
zoning
analysis
before
you're
on
the
bza
agenda,
but
it
sounds
like
in
general,
you're
getting
really
positive
feedback
about
the
sign
package
aesthetically.
B
So
you
know
we
are
in
favor
of
the
the
direction
the
placement
of
signs,
but
it
does
seem
as
if
there
might
be
a
question
about
how
many
ancillary
signs
do
or
do
not
contribute
and
which
of
these
signs
might
be
considered
the
extra
ones
or
the
ones
in
excess
lisa.
Do
you
think
that
the
applicant
should
return
next
month,
or
can
we
just
say
you
know
good
night
to
them
for
now,
and
I
see
elizabeth
elizabeth's
hand
also.
F
Sure
the
other
question
I
had
was:
is
it
possible
to
lower
the
foot
candles
or
the
lighting
after
a
certain
time
like
you
can
still
turn
it
on,
but
it
won't
be
as
bright
as
when
you,
you
know
when
you
have
it
on
after
a
certain
time
like
after
six
or
seven.
D
A
Say
that
I
would
recommend
that
the
applicant
comes
next
month
for
the.
B
B
B
Doesn't
look
like
it
planning
board
anything
you're,
holding
nope
wonderful.
Well,
then,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight,
letting
you
out
a
little
bit
early
hope
you
have
a
happy
holiday
winter
time
break
season.
However,
you
do
it
yeah,
thank
you
and
we'll
see
you
next
month
and
hopefully
get
get
moving
on
through
with
it.
Thank
you.
C
J
But
that
should
be
it
so
it
looks
like
david
is
here,
so
that's
great.
I
B
Yes,
I
think
we
can
begin
mostly.
What
we
want
to
be
talking
about
is
the
part
three
of
the
thief,
but
it
looks
like
you
have
maybe
some
updates
to
give
us
around
views
and
access,
so
we're
happy
to
get
a
presentation
from
you
and
then
we'll
deliberate.
J
Sure
we
have
a
few
conceptual
views
of
the
site
that
we'd
like
to
share
that
we
were
asked
to
prepare,
so
we
can
go
over
these
and
then
move
into
the
part
three.
So
this
view
is
taken
from
across
the
inlet
it's.
This
is
a
highly
rendered
image,
as
you
can
probably
tell
so.
You
know
the
lumps
in
the
background
are
hills,
but
the
focus
is
on
the
view
of
the
proposed
new
building
that
will
be
constructed
at
some
point
in
the
future,
but
that
is
part
of
the
seeker
review.
J
J
J
There
are
some
pending
design
changes
that
will
affect
this.
So
on
the
left
side
of
the
image
you
see
these
trees
in
a
planted
area
based
on
our
recent
conversations
during
prc.
That
area
may
change
to
become
a
bus
stop
space.
There
may
also
be
plantings
as
part
of
that,
but
it
may
not
be
as
extensively
planted
as
shown
here.
J
J
You
can
also
see
that
we're
indicating
a
bike
lane
in
that
last
image
that
will
connect
over
to
the
proposed
pedestrian
plaza
on
the
north
east
side
of
the
building.
We
had
space
in
the
in
the
driving
route
with
that
and
this
next
image
is
somewhat
in
process.
We
have
some
constraints
that
we're
working
with
in
the
parking
area,
such
as
large
utility
poles.
That
cannot
move,
but
this
shows
the
and
it
doesn't
really
show
the
vertical
condition
very
well
here,
but
between
the
asphalt
and
the
concrete.
J
But
this
is
a
five-foot
walkway
that
goes
through
the
parking
area
leading
to
the
building
that
you
can
see
behind
trees
at
near
the
horizon.
With
a
three
foot
planting
strip,
we
are
contending
with
having
enough
room
for
pedestrians,
but
also
having
room
for
plantings
here.
So
if
it's
possible,
this
will
be
widened
and
that's
something
that
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
come
in
our
next
set
of
design
updates,
and
I
believe
that
is
it.
B
B
Doesn't
look
like
it
obviously
we'll
encourage
you
to
see
if
we
can
widen
that
sidewalk
at
all.
Thinking
about
two
people
shoulder
to
shoulder.
That's
five
feet
is
pretty.
B
B
J
C
Thanks
lisa.
B
So
same
comment
keep
saying
that
looks
beautiful,
but
I
can
see
the
cars
running
into
the
trees.
I
can
see
the
cars
over
the
sidewalks.
I
just
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
fit
everything
in
there
and
have
it
look
and
be
lush
like
that.
So
it
needs
more
more.
I
feel
like
it
needs
more
development
to
really
nail
down
how
that's
really
actually
going
to
work
to
get
the
soil
volume
for
the
trees
and
plants.
F
F
F
You
know
for
access,
because
they're
usually
really
tight
anyway,
I
do
love
the
lushness,
but
did
I
already
ask
this
question?
Who
was
in
charge
of
maintaining
all
that.
J
K
Yeah
as
part
of
the
cooperative,
you
know
people
are
supposed
to
assist
with
maintenance
for
work
hours.
We'll
have
to
see
you
know
what
our
needs
are
going
to
be.
We
could
outsource
it,
of
course,
in
the
future.
F
Yeah
looks
good,
though
I,
like
all
the
trees
and
yeah
lighting,
is
there
gonna
be
lighting
out
in
this
area.
J
There
will
be
some
and
again
we're
only
at
a
30
stage
of
design,
but
in
our
next
60
update,
you'll,
see
probably
ballard
lighting
in
this
area.
Unless
we
decide
to
go
with
more
of
a
14
foot,
pedestrian
scale
light
down
this
row,
so
it'll
be
one
or
the
other,
but
this
sidewalk
will
have
lighting
in
it,
as
well
as
more
global
parking
lot.
Lighting.
C
A
J
Yeah,
that's
actually
been
a
pretty
big
point
of
discussion
with
the
market,
as
events
are
in
pretty
high
demand
and
part
of
the
intention
of
the
redesign,
especially
of
the
building,
is
to
host
events
more
frequently
more
regularly,
more
dependably,
also
in
terms
of
rain
events
that
can
cancel
events
today
so
short
days
during
the
fall
winter
spring.
J
C
B
H
We
did
get
some
public
comment
about
the
importance
of
the
bikes
accessing
the
site
and
the
safety
and
the
sight
lines
and
the
generosity
of
the
bike
infrastructure
bike
parking.
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point,
so
I
you
know
it's
kind
of
hard
to
tell
the
totality
of
you
know.
What's
going
on
here
with
bikes.
You
know,
I
see
the
bike
lane.
Is
it
five
feet
wide?
Is
that
the
is
that
what
you're
able
to
fit
five
foot
dedicated
lane?
Six.
D
H
Six
feet
yeah.
So
if
they're,
you
know,
if
they're
a
painted
icon
in
that
lane,
that
is
typically
seen
in
a
dedicated
bike
lane.
You
know
where
all
the
bike
racks
are
how
many
bike
racks
like
there
should
probably
just
be
a
page
dedicated
to
like
the
bike
infrastructure
of
the
new.
You
know
ithaca
farmers
market.
I
think
that
would
be
really
great.
H
The
other
thing
is
that
I,
as
we
talked
about
in
project
review
committee,
the
bus
stop
at
the
front,
and
you
mentioned
that
the
rendering
was
not
current,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
see
how
the
public
transit
side
of
this
works,
because
that
bus
stop
that
you
originally
had
wasn't
really
working
from
a
design
perspective.
It
was
in
the
middle
of
a
sidewalk
crossing,
so
you
know
how
that
entrance
works
with
buses
and
cars
and
bikes
all
coming
together
at
that
point,
is,
is
really
important.
B
F
It's
just
going
to
follow
up
on
the
comments
on
lighting.
Usually
it's
a
safety
concern
to
have
a
minimum
level
of
lighting,
even
if
it's
not
real
bright.
That's
so
that
you
can
see
where
you're
going
and
if
you're
tripping
on
anything
and
the
other
question
I
was
going
to
have.
Is
there
any
thought
on
providing
covered
bike
parking?
I
don't
see
that
very
often,
but
I
often
feel
myself
that
I
would
really
appreciate
some
covered
bike
parking
or
you
know
somewhere.
B
Maybe
now
is
a
good
time
to
transition
to
that
document.
Shall
we
look
through
it
together?
I
think
that
there
might
be
minimal
updates
since
last
time
we've
looked
through
it
lisa.
Are
we
looking
specifically
for
things
that
are
highlighted
or
as
the
as
the
changes
to
review
the
highlighted
things
are
the
outstanding
items
I'm
going
to?
Let
nikki
take
the
lead
on
this
one,
because
she
has
worked
harder
much
harder
on
it
than
I
have
wonderful.
E
J
Sure,
basically,
after
looking
at
it
more
carefully,
we
will
as
a
market
team
design
the
waterfront
so
that
so
that
railings
are
not
needed
based
on
our
interpretation
of
the
ashto
code.
So
we
sent
planning
and
copied
engineering
staff.
On
that
analysis,
we
are
still
in
a
very
conceptual
phase
of
design
for
the
for
the
waterfront,
but
we
know
the
general
footprint
that
it
will
need
and
we
feel
that
we
have
an
approach.
That
means
that
views
will
not
be
obstructed
along
the
water,
because
we
understand
that
that's
an
important
part
of
the
experience.
B
E
B
Great-
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
that
I
just
want
to
bring
up
before,
we
dig
in
page
by
page-
is
design
review
how
how
much
more
of
a
detailed
design
review
process.
B
Might
they
go
through
aside
from
prc
and
site
plan
review,
or
shall
we
specify
that
they,
you
know
not,
are
subject
to,
but
our
meeting
design
review,
so
they
did
basically
design
a
few
for
the
parking
lot
and
when
they
come
back
with
the
building
and
the
other
parts
of
the
design
fully
developed
later,
we
will
do
the
board
will
do
design
and
do
it
that
time,
each.
B
Any
questions
popping
up
on
page
one
for
anybody-
let's
just
you,
know,
take
a
moment
on
each
page,
one
at
a
time.
If
anything
strikes
you
or
there's
an
update
that
you
want
to
discuss.
L
A
B
B
Lisa,
I
have
a
question
actually
or
maybe
nikki,
maybe
just
questions
for
nikki.
There
is
so
much
in
the
part
three
about
the
buildings
like
and
the
shoreline
and
whatnot.
Is
it
reasonable
to
separate
the
parking
lot
and
have
it
have
its
own
feet?
If
that's
really
what
we're
approving
right?
Now?
B
Oh
that's
a
really
good
question.
I
mean
we
discussed
this
with
the
applicant
and
we
decided
that
they
wanted
to
move
forward
with
the
whole
thing.
I
think
we
have
enough
information
to
do
an
environmental
review
for
the
whole
thing.
Obviously,
we
have
more
information
about
the
parking
lot
less
information,
but
we
have
enough
to
do
to
look
at
you
know
broad
impacts.
If
they
were
for
print
of
the
building
right
yeah
I
mean
they're.
Still
the
board
can
still
you
know
during
site.
Planner
view
can
still.
C
B
Well,
I'm
looking
on
page
three
under
shoreline
and
something
like
the
you
know:
the
trees
to
be
removed
and
what
that
limestone
block
wall
will
look
like.
B
I
mean
yes,
maybe
we
can
kind
of
preemptively.
B
B
Visuals
for
it
yet
is
that,
okay
to
maybe
specify
that
in
some
way,
I.
B
Free
with
dc-
or
you
know,
to
find
out,
if
you're
going
to
need
a
permit
and
then
what
the
conditions
of
that
permit
would
be.
So
that
would
be
in
the
fee
if
they're,
if
they.
C
J
B
H
The
the
trees
to
be
removed
are
noted
to
be
along
the
trail
and
near
the
shoreline.
Does
that
include
the
trees
being
removed
in
the
parking
lot,
which
look
pretty
extensive.
E
Under
on
patreon
page,
two.
H
Seems
like
the
trees
were
counted
on
the
shoreline,
but
not
counted
in
the
parking
lot,
and
I
think
we
need
a
totality
of
understanding
of
how
many
trees
are
coming
out,
what
their
sizes
are
and
what
landscaping
is
going
back
in.
That's
really
important.
E
B
J
D
C
B
You
know
extra
busy
work
for
you,
but
it
does
feel
important
to
note.
I
agree
with
mitch
that
isn't.
E
It
sorry
I
have
a
question
about
that
too
kate,
I
know
you
had
mentioned.
Did
you
guys
meet
with
jean
grace
out
at
the
parking
lot?
The.
J
Force
of
the
city
very
early
in
the
project,
but
we
haven't
gone
over
our
exact
tree
protection
plan.
We
have
our
typical
details
shown
in
the
30
set
that
was
submitted
a
few
months
ago
and
as
if
they
said
it
indicates
the
trees
in
there
that
will
be
removed.
But
we
don't
have
a
schedule
that
num
that
quantifies
all
of
the
trees.
J
But
we
can
easily
do
that
because
we
have
that
information,
but
we
were
anticipating
coordinating
with
the
city
forester
at
the
60
phase,
because
as
of
now
in
the
30
set,
for
example,
you
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
placeholder
planting
plan,
but
without
knowing
the
drainage,
we
have
not
prepared
an
actual
planting
plan.
Yet
so
the
intention
is
to
have
native
species
and
so
on.
But
the
soil
and
moisture
characteristics
are
going
to
drive
what
those
selections
will
be.
E
Would
be
a
good
resource
just
because
I
don't
think
she
was
as
cautious
about
the
trees
in
the
parking
lot.
A
lot
of
them
aren't
in
good
shape,
but.
B
B
We
did
see
some
visualizations
of
the
project
set
from
across
the
lake.
Also
looking
at
this
highlighted
part
on
page
six,
so
we
can
update
that
we've
gotten
some
we've
got
some
feedback
to
what
you
presented
tonight,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
anything
of
concern
around
those
particular
visualizations.
B
I
have
a
question
about
you
know
when
we're
when
we're
talking
about
like
making
changes
to
a
peripheral.
You
know
peripheral
to
a
habitat.
I
see
here.
Let
me
see
where
it
is.
B
That
you
know
the
lead
agency
has
maybe
determined
that
there's
no
specific,
there's
no
impact,
because
nothing
is
being
changed
in
the
water.
Who,
who
is
the
final
authority?
Also?
Would
that
be
through
the
swift
process
or
where
who's
the
final
authority
on
that
on
the
on
the
inlet
water,
not
necessarily
groundwater
or
surface
water,
but
the
peripheral
water
nearby.
I
B
What
body
would
we
see
the
actual
homework
like
the
shoreline
yeah
like
the
shore?
Yes,
exactly
like
in
the
spaces
where
they're,
where
we're
discussing
the
trees
on
the
shoreline
and
the
wall
being
built
in
the
shoreline.
It
specifies
that
nothing
is
going
to
be
changed
in
the
water,
so
so,
but
I
won't
I
kind
of
feel
like
that's
a
thing
that
seemed
I
mean
I
see
elizabeth
chatting
that
maybe
it's
dec
or
I
don't
know
if
it's
engineering,
yeah
yeah,
it
seems
like
it
would
be.
B
It
would
give
me
peace
of
mind
to
know
that
somebody
that
oversees
that
waterway
you
know
can
agree
that
no
changes
are
being
made
to
the
water
or
that,
because
no
direct,
you
know
the
project
is,
doesn't
take
place
directly
in
the
water.
I
just
I
want
a
second
who
who
would
do
that
is.
That
is
that
is
that
part
of
the
process
already
good.
B
If
they
were
building
a
wall
in
the
water,
they
would
be
the
permitting
authority,
and
so
that's
again
why
I
have
asked
the
applicant
to
have
a
pre-meeting
with
dc.
It
happens
all
the
time
or
get
somebody
in
the
permitting
office
to
look
at
the
drawings
and
say
this
is
the
kind
of
permit
you
would
need
or
no
this
doesn't
need
a
permit.
I
see
and
that's
kind
of
what
we
were
saying
before
and
kate.
B
B
Right,
yes,
no,
I
don't
believe
that
you're.
I
I
knew
that
you're
not
going
for
any
permits
now,
but
just
where
you
know
where
we're
discussing
if
we're
talking
about.
If
this
environmental
review
is
for
the
entire
project,
not
just
the
parking
lot,
then
we
can't
only
respond
to
the
permits.
You
know
we
can't
move
forward
as
if
you're
not
going
to
be
asking
for
permits.
So
the
permits
you're
asking
for
later
have
to
be
captured
by
this
document,
because.
K
I
B
And
only
thing
so
I
would
like
to
add
those
things
like
if
you
are
going
to
later
during
the
design
phase
be
getting
dec
permits
or,
and
also
we
know
that
you're
going
to
there's
going
to
be
a
wall,
a
line
block
wall
near
the
shoreline
or
along
the
shoreline.
I
think
those
are
things
that
we
just
have
to
have
more
information
on
before
we
can
move
forward,
not
the
determinations
of
them,
but
the
your
your
plan
for
them.
What
they
will
be
a
list
of
what
those
permits
will
be.
B
I
think,
but
you're
going
to
disagree
about
that
you're
doing
the
seeker
for
all
of
the
actions
involved
in
this,
including
any
permits,
so
you
have
to
you
know
it's
not
uncommon
for
applicants
to
consult
with
the
permitting
office
in
dc
long
before
they're,
going
to
submit
a
permit
just
to
get
a
feel
for
what
you
know.
What
is
going
to
be
required
if
anything.
J
We
did
review
several
drawings
during
the
prc
meeting
that
show
the
intended
character
of
the
shoreline
for
reference.
Those
have
been
slightly
adjusted
since
prc
and
we
can
resubmit
those,
so
those
would
replace
the
11
16
date
for
the
sections,
for
example,
in
the
shoreline
section,
those
were
in
the
email
that
we
sent
to
staff
earlier
this
week
or
last
week
regarding
the
railing.
C
B
Thank
you,
those
updated
drawings
would
be
great.
I
think
I
just
yeah.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that,
if
you're,
if
you're
requesting
for
us
that
that
the
seeker
involved
the
entire
project,
including
the
buildings
and
any
required
permits
that
we
might
not
be
able
to
provide
a
net
deck
until
we've
seen
at
least
some
movement
on
those,
what
those
permits
will
be
so
updated
drawings
would
be
great
and
conversations
that
you
might
start
early
with
dec.
B
F
And
the
second
paragraph
at
the
end,
it
says
that
the
final
drawings
for
the
shoreline
and
trail
recreation
area
are
anticipated
in
2022,
which
will
be
compliant
with
any
necessary
permits
from
new
york,
dc
or
army
corps
of
engineers.
B
Referenced,
does
the
board
feel
that
that's
enough,
or
would
we
like
to
see
more
detail
about
what
some
of
those
permits
would
be
or
drawings
as
they
come
I'll?
Leave
that
to
the
board
discretion.
F
J
Where
are
you
seeing
this
elizabeth,
it
looks.
B
L
A
Creek
there
will
be
dredging
for
the
inlet,
but
it's
not
going
to.
E
B
Thanks,
so
I'm
thinking
about
these
walls
in
terms
of
environmental
impacts,
I
think
you're,
probably
asking
for
the
maximum
amount
and
size
of
walls
that
you'd
want,
and
I
can
only
imagine
that
the
army
corps
or
dec
would
require
less.
I
know
the
army
corps
sometimes
prefers
rip-rap
to
a
vertical
ballasted
wall
like
that.
So
I
feel
comfortable.
B
H
I
was
just
wondering
not
on
that
topic,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
two
elements
here.
One
is
soils
and
you
know
whether
you
might
find
anything
while
driving
piles
or
digging.
H
I
don't
know
what
the
previous
land
use
was
before
the
original
farmers
market
on
that
site
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
needs
to
be
spelled
out
or
if
that's
even
an
issue,
and
the
other
thing
I'm
curious
about
is
the
flooding
since
it's
in
this
area,
that's
between
100
and
500
year
flood,
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
site
has
ever
flooded
and
what
building
elements
are
proposed
to
be
on
the
ground
and
if
there
are
any
mechanicals
or
anything
like
that
that
it
might
be
flood
impacted.
J
E
I
J
So
the
soils
section
of
this
will
be
much
supplemented
when
we
do
get
the
geotechnical
report
back.
That
has
been
pretty
significantly
delayed
in
this
project
and
that's
why
the
design
for
the
parking
area,
for
example,
is
taking
considerably
longer
than
we
thought
it
would
so
that
will
address
the
structure
of
the
soil
and
its
porosity
permeability,
and
I
believe
that
where
we
left
it,
they
were
doing
an
investigation
for
permeability,
primarily
in
the
parking
area
and
then
deeper
investigations
for
the
building
for
future
reference
for
the
foundation
planning.
J
I
didn't
address
the
flooding
yet,
but
I
can
tell
you
somewhat
anecdotally
that
we
have
looked
at
historic
photographs
and
it
appears-
and
this
will
be
confirmed
in
the
geotechnical
report-
that
it
appears
that
the
site
has
been
filled
over
time.
It
was
once
an
island
that
was
part
of
the
creeks
system,
but
has
been
filled
with
construction
fill
in
other
soils
to
become
contiguous
with
the
land
as
it
is
today,
but
as
far
as
flooding
goes,
I'm
not
sure
where
that
information
is
going
to
come
from,
there
would
have
to
be
building
code.
J
B
Know
they
have
to
be
yeah.
One
foot
above
base
blood
elevation.
The
building
is
in
the
500-year
floodplain,
so
not
as
bad
as
that
and
they
would
have
to
meet.
They
would
have
to
raise
the
floor
up
above
above
well.
Actually
in
the
500-year
floodplain.
You
don't
have
to
it's
already
above
it,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
anything
particularly.
C
B
J
Kate,
during
the
planning
board
meeting
last
month
during
design
review,
we
submitted
some
pretty
extensive
circulation
diagrams
and
showed
the
bike,
parking
infrastructure
and
routing.
So
what
we
anticipate
being
able
to
provide
that
60
set,
for
example,
will
be
more
detail
of
where
the
markings
are,
what
color?
It
will
be,
what
the
materials
for
the
we
submitted.
B
J
It's
okay
to
ask
it
at
this
point:
it
might
not
be,
but
we're
we're
trying.
Okay,
we'll
just
be
in
touch
about
it.
Yeah.
B
E
B
The
updates
we
look
forward
to
getting
more
information
any
last
questions
or
thoughts
from
anyone
with
the
farmers
market
team.
K
No
thanks
for
being
with
us-
and
you
know,
we're
excited
that
looks
like
this
thing
is
really
going
to
happen,
which
is
thrilling
now
we
want
to
do
it
right
and
something
we
can
all
be
proud
of.
So
thanks
for
your
engagement
have
a
wonderful
holiday,
I
hope
2022
has
well.
I
hope
this
surge
is
the
last
one
I'll
say.
I
K
Yeah,
we
just
got
notification,
we
got
this
was
announcement
voice.
We
got
what
we
asked
for,
which
was
3.8
mill,
including
matching
funds
from
the
market
which
we
have
to
raise.
That's
got
some
design
money
for,
I
think
for
the
waterfront
side
and
then
some
construction
money
for
the
thing
you're
looking
at
we're,
gonna
bring
it
to
life.
B
B
N
Are
you
guys
getting
a
lot
of
feedback?
Yes,
yeah
we're
getting
like
a
secondary
tape.
L
So
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
way
we
are
going
to
approach
the
design
guidelines
is
that,
this
evening,
we'll
focus
on
the
architecture
and
we'll
get
through
as
much
of
that
as
we
can
we're
going
to
start
with
catherine
north.
We
thought
we'd
review
that
and
then
have
discussion.
If
there's
time
we
can
continue
on
to
catherine
south.
L
Otherwise,
we'll
pick
up
with
that,
when
we
come
back
for
the
special
meeting
in
january,
which
is
scheduled
for
january
13th,
I
believe
and
then
in
addition,
so
this
package
doesn't
address
the
site
component
at
all,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
submitting
an
additional
package
prior
to
the
january
meeting
that
will
be
specifically
focused
on
the
the
design
review
of
the
site
components,
so
that
will
become
that
will
be
coming
and
watching
that
in
january.
E
L
I
think
with
that,
since
this
is
about
architecture
we'll
let
our
bin
run
the
show
here
today.
N
N
Yes,
okay,
great
so
good
evening,
everyone,
my
thought,
was
really
to
just
peripherally
touch
on
the
site
and
then
get
into
the
building
design
and,
as
catherine
stated,
we'll
be
getting
into
the
actual
site
design
at
the
next
meeting
and
I'm
sure
there's
plenty
of
there
for
discussion
as
well
as
a
review.
The
the
catherine
north
and
south
side
plans
are
they're
really
based
on
the
college,
town
design,
guidelines
and
they're
applied
throughout
both
of
those
sites.
N
On
catherine,
north
building,
one
has
three
main
entry
points
on
college
avenue
and
they're
accessed
by
a
covered,
paved
public,
plaza,
that's
created
by
cutting
the
face
back
of
the
building
along
the
public
way
and
recessing
the
entrance.
N
The
existing
topography
has
had
a
major
positive
impact
on
the
site
and
the
building
design
by
promoting
multiple
buildings
in
lieu
of
a
one,
monolithic
building
and
building
2a,
as
well
as
2b.
Their
entrances
are
off
of
catherine
street
via
sidewalks
and
paved
courts.
N
Just
so
everybody's
aware
of
that,
on
every
one
of
these
slides
there's
a
little
key
plan
on
the
slide,
which
shows
where
this
elevation
is
taken.
We
thought
it'd
be
helpful.
So
as
we
go
through
this,
so
you
can
locate
yourselves.
N
The
following
is
an
overall
street
elevation
of
katherine
north
and
kathryn
south
on
college
avenue.
The
project
sites,
as
I
stated
very
briefly
before,
provides
an
opportunity
to
create
an
integrated,
active
c
street
environment,
and
the
sloping
40-foot
drop
from
the
intersection
of
dryden
to
cook
provides
an
opportunity
to
step
the
massing,
as
well
as
the
roof
lines
down
south
on
college
avenue.
N
Our
design
also
addresses
the
existing
context
on
the
400
block
and
college
avenue
by
designing
the
buildings
as
three-part
articulations
there's
a
base
that
is
lifted
up
and
the
it
houses
a
glass,
enclosed
commercial
program
to
activate
the
street
environment,
a
middle
which
aligns
with
the
adjacent
buildings
in
height
and
setback
and
a
top
that
addresses
the
adjacent
buildings
by
architectural
alignments
as
well
as
elements.
N
This
is
a
view
of
cath
of
catherine
north
building
one
and
in
order
to
reduce
the
mass
and
the
scale
of
building
one,
we
articulated
the
facade
and
massing
by
creating
a
two-story
grid
pattern
with
panels
set
in
different
planes
material
changes,
as
well
as
proportionally
sized
materials
in
a
variety
of
colors.
N
N
The
enhanced
public
environment
on
college
avenue
really
is
covered
with
an
overhang,
so
it
can
be
utilized
year-round
for
socializing
and
well
as
your
everyday
impromptu
events.
Predominantly
the
exterior
materials
consist
of
terra
cotta
tiles,
which
are
12
by
8
in
a
horizontal
dimension,
standing
seam
metal
panels
of
various
colors
and
insulated
glassing.
N
The
following
view
is
the
south
end
of
building
one
on
captain
street
and
you're
looking
north
building,
one
along
college
avenue
turns
to
the
west
on
katson
street,
with
its
urban
scale,
as
well
as
its
architectural
language.
The
two-story
grid
pattern
has
shifted.
It
is
much
more
tighter
than
what
was
seen
on
the
east
face
as
you
are
because
of
the
perpetual
professional
proportionality.
N
N
This
this
is
the
following
view,
which
is
the
west
facade
of
building
one,
as
I
spoken
before,
the
east
and
south
facades
really
reflect
college
avenue's
urban
context
of
massing
materials
and
colors,
while
the
west
facade
reflects
the
residential
context.
Our
design
addresses
the
residential
side
through
materiality
and
scale.
The
window,
sizes
and
alignments
are
regularized,
it's
much
more
vernacular
in
its
alignment,
while
the
standing
steam
panels
are
the
ones
that
are
staggered
to
minimize
the
overall
scale
and
promote
a
visual
activation
of
the
facade.
N
The
combination
of
these
regularized
windows
they're
all
set
back
and
the
seams
of
the
metal
panel.
They
activate
the
facade
throughout
the
day
because
of
the
movement
of
the
sun
as
the
day
changes
as
the
sun
moves,
you're
going
to
get
different
shadows
because
of
these
different
planes,
and
we
think
that
would
create
a
very
interesting
facade
throughout
the
day.
We're
using
different
colors
on
the
back
of
the
facade
is
to
further
minimize
the
scale
of
the
building
again
to
vertically
break
it
up
into
different
proportions,
rather
than
having
one
large
monolithic
mass.
N
The
following
is
the
north
facade
of
building
one.
This
is
the
one
looking
uphill
and
the
north
facade
is
really
hidden
by
312
college
avenue,
as
you
can
see
in
the
dotted
line
here.
That's
really
the
profile
of
the
building
as
its
sisters.
Next
to
building
one,
the
remaining
facade
is
going
to
be
clad
with
terracotta
tiles
and
vertically
stacked
windows.
A
majority
of
this
facade
really
as
you're
on
college
avenue,
will
be
obscured
because
of
the
oblique
and
descending
view
and
the
height
and
the
depth
of
312
college
avenue.
N
Catherine
street
drops
approximately
about
28
feet
from
college
avenue
to
the
western
point
of
our
site
and
the
proposed
buildings
take
advantage
of
this
by
integrating
the
massing
with
the
existing
slope.
The
buildings
on
catherine
street
are
designed
to
complement
the
residential
environment.
Therefore,
the
buildings
are
separated,
separate
to
eliminate
a
wall-like
effect
and
we're
also
introducing
connectors
from
building
one
to
building
to
a
connector
from
building
2a
to
2b.
N
So,
basically,
we
create
these
zones
in
order
to
break
up
the
building,
give
view
angles
as
well
as
provide
connectivity
within
the
complex
itself
on
the
south
side
of
it
we're
introducing
a
different
terracotta
color
on
the
north.
On
the
east
side
of
the
buildings,
you
were
seeing
more
of
the
grays
and
the
reddish
orange
on
this
side.
We're
thinking
about
a
greenish
type
of
a
terracotta
in
order
to
quote,
make
there
a
variety
within
this
urban
environment
and
introduce
a
different
kind
of
a
color.
N
These
are
two
sectional
cuts
along
captain
street
and
they
are
a
long
building
to
a
section.
One
is
cut
along
the
entry
stoop,
while
section
two
is
cut
along
the
light.
Well,
the
face
of
the
buildings
in
both
of
these
sections
is
15
feet
from
the
street
curb,
and
it
includes
a
5
foot
sidewalk,
as
well
as
the
10
foot
setback
from
the
property
line.
The
setback
area
is
landscape,
with
softscape
at
either
the
entry
stoop
locations
or
with
the
appropriate
hardscape
at
the
lightweight
locations.
N
The
10-foot
setback
also
provides
an
opportunity
to
expand
the
sidewalk
at
the
light
well
benefiting
the
public
pedestrians
also
at
the
same
time,
providing
light
to
the
lower
level
apartments
within
the
complex
itself.
So,
if
you're
walking
on
captain
street
your
five
foot,
sidewalk
is
actually
going
to
feel
more
like
eight
foot.
Six,
because
that's
really
the
edge
of
your
light
well
and
the
same
thing
is
gonna
happen
when
you're
along
the
entry
steps,
you're,
basically
walking
on
a
five
foot
sidewalk,
but
the
entry
court
adds
another
three
and
a
half
feet
to
that
dimension.
N
N
The
sloping
conditions
of
both
of
those
sites
dictated
whether
we
have
an
on-grade
entry
or
a
stepped
entry
or
an
entry
that
is
carved
out
to
provide
access
on
light
and
that's
pretty
much.
The
same
way.
We're
going
to
be
treating
the
buildings
on
captain
street
we're
going
to
let
the
topographical
conditions
create
a
rich
and
diverse
reed
environment.
N
The
followings
are
the
view,
is
the
north
and
west
facade
of
building
two,
a
similar
as
to
the
west,
facing
residential
facade
of
building
one.
Our
design
addresses
the
residential
context,
but
with
several
important
minor
architectural
adjustments
and
those
adjustments
are
really
based
on
the
scale
and
the
massing
of
these
buildings.
As
you
can,
I
hope
you
remember.
The
original
metal
panels
were
based
on
a
two-story
grade.
The
standing
c
metal
panel
here
is
reduced
to
a
in
scale.
In
due
to
the
four-story
massing
of
building
2a
and
2b
and
the
west
facade.
N
We
have
also
incorporated
an
accent
element
to
create
visual
movements.
The
ends
of
the
connectors
which
link
building,
2a
and
2b
are
glazed
and
transparent,
and
they
actually
help
to
break
up
the
mass
and
again
they're
connected
to
internal
core,
so
they
become
a
place
of
remembrance
as
to
not
only
where
am
I,
but
also
to
bring
lighting
to
the
heart
of
the
building
itself.
N
The
following
is
the
view
the
south
facade
on
catherine
street
and
east
facade
with
the
interior
courtyard
of
building
2b.
N
The
building
2b
is
the
farthest
building
on
the
west
and
is
designed
to
be
proportional
to
our
existing
residential
neighbor,
which
is
approximately
about
22
feet
to
the
west
of
our
building.
The
mass
of
building
2b
and
our
neighbors
is
very
similar
in
height,
as
well
as
in
width
building.
2B
has
many
similarities
to
2a
in
its
materials
and
architectural
elements,
as
well
as
the
design
details
again,
there
are
vertical
glaze
elements
that
are
embedded
in
these
in
order
to
signify
either
an
entrance
or
also
a
break
of
the
massing
of
the
facade
itself.
N
The
following
is
the
north
and
west
elevation
of
building
2b,
again
we're
looking
more
at
the
interior
of
this
block
and
you're
looking
at
the
the
north
elevation,
as
well
as
the
west
elevation
in
these
following
elevations,
the
windows
and
the
standing
sea
metal
panels
are
staggered
again,
because
we
want
to
minimize
the
scale
and
promote
a
visual
movement
while
the
scale
while,
while
the
scale
of
the
windows
is
residential
in
order
to
be
appropriate
to
our
western
neighbors,
we're
using
different
colors
again
in
order
to
break
up
the
mass
of
the
building
itself
well
and
we're
also
providing
vertical
elements,
as
we
had
done
previously.
N
N
The
undulating
pattern
of
the
opaque
terracotta
panels
provides
a
relief
against
the
voids
which
are
infilled
with
either
large
windows
and
standing
seam
metal
panels.
Large
double
story,
windows
of
building,
one
which
are
along
college
avenue
in
captain
street,
have
built
up
projected
frames
extending
beyond
the
face
of
the
terracotta
and
adjacent
standing,
seam
metal
panels.
The
thought
really
is
that
there
are
many
planes
in
this
wall.
You
have
the
plane
of
the
terracotta.
N
N
The
facade
itself
overall
is
also
activated
by
alternating
the
windows
which
are
also
set
in
a
different
plane
within
the
terracotta
wall,
to
all
help.
The
fact
that
you
do
not
want
and
we're
trying
to
avoid
a
monolithic,
static
facade
as
you
get
closer
to
the
views.
You
have
a
further
understanding
of
the
texture
of
this
terra
cotta
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
see
if
I
can
bring
that
forward.
N
N
We've
done
a
careful
investigation
and
a
careful
study
of
what
are
the
appropriate
materials
for
this
site
and
we've
selected
a
material
pallet
which
is
durable
and
can
be
sustainable
within
the
ithaca
climate,
and
here
are
some
of
the
main
predominant
materials
for
this
project.
The
terra
cotta
tiles
that
we
have
looked
at
are,
and
we
have
selected
several
colors.
They
are
textural,
they're
rich
and
they
will
create
a
dynamic
facade.
N
Especially
one
of
the
facades
that
you
can
see
here
is
that
even
these
terracottas
there
is
not
a
homogeneous
color
to
them.
There
is
actually
a
richness
that
goes
beyond
the
color
itself
and
there
is
a
depth
to
those
colors.
N
L
You
know
I
also
just
wanted
to
add
that
we
are
working
on
getting
actual
physical
samples
of
these
materials
into
city
hall
and
we
will
have
those
there
sometime
in
the
very
near
future,
so
that
you'll
have
time
to
look
at
to
stop
by
city
hall
and
look
at
them
before
the
special
meeting
on
january
13th.
L
For
those
of
you
who
want
to
see
the
actual
real
samples,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
and
so
yes,
I
think
so.
This
was
sort
of
the
discussion
on
catherine,
north,
and
so
the
question
is,
you
know:
would
you
like
to
have
discussion
on
that
now
or
would
you
like
irvin
to
continue
to
catherine
south.
B
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
you
continue
on
to
catherine's
south,
but
that
if
you
can
speed
it
up
a
little
bit
because
even
though
we
started
ahead
of
schedule,
we've
spent
a
good
bit
of
time
in
the
presentation.
I
want
to
leave
lots
of
time
for
feedback
and
questions,
so
I
think
we
have
the
general
context
yeah.
Please
go
ahead
and
continue
and
then
we'll
do
a
round
of
questions
and
feedback.
Then
so
thank
you.
N
Sure
sounds
great
well
on
the
catherine
south
side,
building,
3a
and
3b
have
two
major
entry
points.
One
is
on
the
north
end
and
the
other
one
is
on
the
south
end.
The
entries
are
accessed
off
of
college
avenue
via
a
covered
pay,
public
plaza
and
again,
that
is
created
by
cutting
back
the
building
footprint
along
the
public
way
and
recessing
the
entries
into
the
setback.
N
In
addition
to
those
two
major
entries
on
catholic
avenue,
there
are
a
number
of
private
row
house
entrances
with
recess
doors
and
side
lights,
with
painted
steel,
stoops
and
canopies
along
colidamu
to
enter
those
private
residences
and
also
the
entry
to
building
four
has
an
entry
off
of
a
porch
which
is
off
of
court
street,
as
well
as
a
second
entry
which
is
off
an
internal
pathway.
N
They
are
such
an
important
element
of
college
avenue,
for
they
will
create
that
everyday
activity
of
people
entering
their
residences
people
leaving
their
entrances
as
they
move
through
their
daily
life,
building,
3a
and
3b
and
fours
the
trash
and
recycling
are
located
within
the
building
footprint
and
an
enclosed
outer
outdoor
space,
which
is
not
visible
from
cook
street.
These
collection
points
are
accessed
by
service
vehicles
from
either
catherine
or
from
cook
street.
N
The
following
again
is
an
overall
street
elevation
of
katherine
north,
as
well
as
kathmandu,
south
on
college
avenue
and
overall
street
elevation,
also
of
catherine
street
as
the
end
of
building
3a
to
the
north
face
and
as
well
as
the
elevation
of
cook
street.
N
Again,
the
existing
topography,
as
I
said
before,
has
impacted
both
of
these
sites
and
we
they're
very
important
in
a
positive
way
because
they
give
us
the
ability
to
break
the
building
mass
along
the
sloping
topography
again
in
both
of
these
sites.
We
have
addressed
a
number
of
the
college
town
design
guidelines
through
scale
context
and
by
creating
the
friendly
pedestrian
street
environments
that
is
so
integral
to
the
project,
as
well
as
the
design
of
this
project.
N
The
catherine
south
elevation
along
college
avenue
continues
the
two
story
grid
pattern,
which
was
part
of
the
concept
of
catherine
north,
but
the
scale
is
further
minimized
by
increasing
the
ratio
of
glass
to
terra
cotta
as
therefore
making
the
buildings
much
more
transparent
and
less
monolithic
at
the
south
end
of
building
3b.
The
grid
pattern
actually
even
has
been
further
minimized
to
a
grid
frame
with
an
infill
of
glass
and
metal
panels
and
the
building
steps
down.
N
As
I
stated
numerous
times
before,
because
of
the
topography
itself,
the
materials
of
these
buildings
are
similar
to
capture
north,
but
the
proportions
and
color
vary
to
promote
the
diversity
in
the
urban
environment.
Here
we're
thinking
more
of
the
grays
and
greens
as
well,
because
it's
further
away
from
the
400
block
and
the
400
block
had
more
of
the
oranges
and
the
reds
and
therefore
that's
the
color
palette.
We
were
continuing
with
on
catherine
now,
north
the
design
of
catherine
south
really
shifts
the
entire.
N
What
I
call
the
center
of
gravity,
further
down
college
avenue
by
creating
the
public
plaza
not
only
on
the
north
end
and
also
providing
the
row,
houses,
entrances
along
college
avenue
and
but
also
on
the
south
end.
We
have
incorporated
a
public
plaza
for
socializing
and
it's
also
a
sheltered
place
for
a
place
to
be
bored
or
to
be
dropped
off
by
a
bus
and
a
place
of
destination.
N
As
we
showed
on
catherine
on
captain
street
the
face
of
building
2a
and
2b
and
how
the
front
stoops
and
the
light
wells
work
together,
the
following
site
plan
really
shows
the
relationship
of
the
front
stoops
and
sidewalk
conditions
along
catherine,
south
section.
One
is
at
the
bus
location.
N
Section
two
is
at
the
typical
expanded
sidewalk
along
college
avenue.
The
reason
why
the
section
one
was
important
was
because,
when
you
carve
out
the
the
bus
location,
it
narrows
the
sidewalk
width
at
that
point
and
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
full
understanding
of
both
of
those
conditions
so
at
the
bus
stop
condition.
N
What
you
have
is
the
sidewalk
width
is
approximately
11
foot
four
to
the
face
of
the
building,
and
then
it's
18
foot
six
in
the
typical
expanded,
sidewalk
condition.
Now,
within
that
sidewalk
condition,
we
do
have
our
quote:
five
foot
setback
from
our
property
line
and
that's
the
face
of
our
building
and
within
that
also
we
have
the
front
stoops.
Now
we're
showing
you
two
different
versions
of
a
front
stoop
here,
because,
as
as
I
stated
before,
the
topography
dictates
the
the
length
of
the
stair
runs.
N
It
dictates
whether
it's
an
on-grade
entry
or
it's
at
the
worst
situation,
which
it
needs
the
full
height
run
so
at
one
location,
where
we're
showing
it
there.
The
headroom
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
top
of
the
landing
is
seven
foot
eight
and
we
do
have
a
protection.
N
There
are
many
ways
to
create
that
protection.
You
can
create
it
by
railings
or
you
can
create
it
by
change
in
the
plane
of
the
walking
surface,
and
we
chose
to
do
this
via
the
change
of
the
walking
surface,
because
it
gives
us
the
most
clear
opacity
to
the
back
of
the
building
walls,
so
in
order
to
perception
wise
make
the
sidewalks
as
large
as
possible.
N
Obviously,
when
you're
at
a
four
foot
dimension,
it's
a
different
kind
of
it's
a
different
kind
of
a
headroom
condition
and
again
you
can
use
the
same
raised
grade
of
several
inches
in
order
to
mitigate
the
the
head.
The
ability
for
somebody
to
bang
their
head
onto
the
stoop
itself.
N
The
following
is
a
view
of
cook
street
and
at
this
you're
looking
in
north
building,
3b
is
along
college
avenue.
It
turns
west
on
cook
street
and
continues
the
light
structural
grid
with
an
infill
of
metal
panel
and
glass.
The
plaza
and
the
lower
level
are
further
integrated
into
the
streetscape
at
this
location
and
the
glazed
lower
level
which
activates
the
street,
through
its
public
use
and
activities
within
the
fitness
center
building.
Four
on
cook
street
is
in
the
cr3
zone
and
is
designed
as
per
zoning.
N
It
has
a
height
of
35
feet
and
three
and
a
half
floors.
Building
four
is
also
the
farthest
west
building
and
it's
approximately
about
11
and
a
half
feet
away
from
our
nearest
neighbor
on
the
west.
The
building
itself
is
stylistically
vernacular
in
its
form
and
scale
and
in
keeping
with
its
adjacent
neighbors.
N
N
Building
3a
and
three
b's
best:
the
western
facades,
the
back
facades
are
designed
also
to
carry
the
delicate
grid
pattern
with
windows
and
colored
metal
panels.
Single
and
double
height
window
openings
are
arranged
and
aligned
to
create
a
rhythm
and
a
continuity.
N
While
the
metal
panel
sizes
we've
broken
those
down
to
be
an
abstract
connection
to
the
residential
size
and
scale
of
our
western
neighbors,
again
we're
using
certain
themes
of
the
such
as
the
regularized
windows
in
order
to
complement
our
neighbors
but
they're
set
back
in
order
to
activate
the
facade
throughout
the
day
again
based
on
the
movement
of
the
sun,
the
grid
colors
and
the
width
of
the
the
grid.
They
help
us
in
order
to
promote
a
variety
and
also
break
down
the
horizontal
facade.
N
So
reality
is
when
you're
looking
at
this
you're
seeing
sections
and
portions
you're
not
seeing
one
large
horizontal
mass,
the
grid
in
the
quote,
starting
from
the
north
works
itself
up
to
a
more
dense
grid
in
the
middle
which
breaks
up
the
horizontal
mass
of
our
building
3a.
And
then
we
change
colors
with
the
same
language,
but
with
different
colors
to
identify
building
3b.
N
The
following
is
a
view
of
building
3a.
This
is
the
quote:
building
as
it
turns
on
catherine
and
you're.
Looking
south
building
3a
along
college
avenue
turns
to
the
west.
It
still
continues
its
much
more
transparent,
two-story
grid
pattern,
which
is
again
set
in
different
undulating
planes
and
stacked
vertical
windows
at
the
top
of
the
corners.
N
We
designed
it
as
a
void
with
an
infill
in
order
to
break
up
the
mass
at
the
top
of
the
two-story
corners
and
at
the
bottom
of
it
we
have
an
open
plaza,
which
activates
the
street
through
its
public
use,
so
think
of
this
building.
As
sitting
on
the
corner,
the
top
is
eroded.
The
bottom
is
eroded,
then
you
have
a
mass
of
a
building.
N
It's
all
done
in
order
to
minimize
the
scale,
as
you
turn
that
corner
of
catherine,
whether
you're
going
south
or
north
on
college
avenue,
building
four
on
cook
street
is,
as
I
stated
before,
in
the
cr3,
and
it's
designed
as
per
zoni.
Building
four
on
cook
street
is
designed
to
integrate
with
its
residential
environment.
N
Therefore,
the
form
is
sloping:
roof,
it's
dormers,
they're,
all
in
the
keeping
of
the
language
of
a
vernacular
neighborhood
on
the
south
and
north
elevations,
though
we
introduced
a
horizontal
and
vertical
grid
to
again
de-emphasize
the
mass
of
it,
because
the
majority
of
the
buildings
on
cook
street
are
proportionally
less
than
the
width
of
these
buildings,
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
integrate
this
with
the
smaller
residential
scale
and
therefore,
we
introduced
a
different
proportion
on
these
buildings
by
the
grade
itself.
N
On
catherine
south,
which
is
a
partial
view
that
we're
showing
is
the
juncture
between
3a
and
3b,
I'm
going
to
try
to
blow
this
up
a
little
bit,
I'm
hoping
I
can.
I
don't
have
many
more
slides
so
bear
with
me.
Oh
I'm,
going
the
wrong
way.
N
This
close-up
really
gives
you
a
better
understanding
of
the
texture
of
the
terracotta
tiles.
The
articulation-
and
I
think
I've
said
this
before
the
voids
as
to
how
you
integrate
the
storefront
windows
and
the
standing
seam
panels.
We've
also
introduced
in
here
a
red
accent
element
which
again
creates
another
layer
of
activity
within
the
facade
itself
and
finally,
the
smooth
metal
panel
grid
system
and
the
the
street
level
expansion
of
the
street
plane
provides
a
great
area
for
public
use.
N
N
I'm
just
going
to
the
last
slide-
and
I
think
we've
all
seen
this
slide
here
before
and
the
the
goal
of
this
slide
to
really
say
is
the
materiality
of
this.
Entire
project
is
of
rich,
durable
materials
that
can
withstand
the
climate
up
at
ithaca,
but
we're
using
it
in
different
ways
we're
using
different
colors.
So,
overall,
it
looks
like
an
urban
context
that
is
fully
diverse
and
feels
a
richness
to
it.
N
That
will
be
there
for
a
very
long
time.
In
the
context
of
all
the
other
buildings,
that's
pretty
much.
The
quickest
run
that
I
can
go
through.
I'm
sorry!
If
it
was,
it's
pretty,
there's
a
lot
more
details
that
we
can
get
into.
But
at
this
point
I
think
I'm
gonna
stop
and
see.
If
you
have
questions.
B
This
is
the
time
for
design
reviews,
so
we
definitely
want
to
be
looking
at
things
closely
I'll
just
go
I'll
move
it
to
the
board
for
we'll
take
a
round,
and
I'll
start
with
who
I
see.
First
cj.
G
B
Was
that
me
sorry,
emily?
Yes,
emily?
Okay,
thank
you
yeah!
These
are
really
exciting
to
see.
I
feel
like
I
understand
the
building
so
much
better
after
your
presentation.
I
do
have.
D
B
B
I
think
they
add
to
that
row,
house
kind
of
feeling
and
they
give
you
the
opportunity
to
let
students
enter
into
the
building
with
maybe
a
smaller
group
of
people
rather
than
a
main
entrance
and
a
big
lobby
where
they're
going
up
so
so
I
really
like
that
that
use
of
these
light
wells,
okay,
a
question
on
the
north
presentation:
can
you
elaborate
on
your
idea
of
connecting
these
three
buildings
with
bridges,
and
I
have
two
reasons
for
asking
that
you
know
connecting
big
building
1
to
2a
and
2b
through
the
overhead
bridges?
B
My
first
reason
for
asking
that
question
is
it
feels
like
it
kind
of
erodes
that
row
house
feeling
on
the
inside
if
everyone
has
access
through
the
buildings,
maybe
it's
for
amenities
and
building
one,
and
my
second
reason
for
asking
that
question
is:
it
seems
like
a
possible
security
problem,
so
I
just
wanted
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
those
connections.
N
The
the
connections
really
are
for
convenience,
meaning,
as
we
know,
there's
not
always
the
best
weather
in
ithaca,
and
so
people
can
easily
navigate
to
the
buildings,
2a
and
2b
during
inclement
weather,
by
entering
building
one
right
off
a
college
avenue
and
have
a
protected
access
to
their
residences,
all
the
way
to
the
north
end
of
building
2b.
If
they
wanted
to
in
good
weather
terms,
you
can
always
walk
easily
down
college
avenue,
turn
to
the
west
on
catherine
and
access
building,
either
2a
and
2b.
N
N
The
reason
for
that
was
we
we
take
the
the
residential
nature
as
you
go
to
the
west
as
a
very
important
element
and
we're
trying
to
fit
our
buildings,
so
they
are
as
complementary
towards
the
west.
So
we
wanted
to
break
these
buildings
up
and
we
thought
how
do
we
want
to
break
them
up?
N
So
you
know
this
is
something
that
we're
gonna
look
at
further,
but
we're
trying
to
keep
that
connector
as
transparent
as
possible.
So
when
you
look
at
these
buildings,
we
want
you
to
see
three
buildings
and
then
we
want
to
see
row
houses.
So
that's
our
goal
with
the
bridges
itself
is
to
see
how
much
further,
through
not
only
materiality
but
also
through
color.
L
I
would
just
add
that
you
know
a
similar
technique
is
used
at
college
town
terrace.
There
are
bridges
between
some
of
the
buildings
and
just
to
your
point,
emily
about
security
issues,
there
have
not
been
problems
there
where
they
have
this
same
kind
of
arrangement.
B
Great
thank
you.
My
last
question
is
for
the
south
presentation.
Maybe
a
plan,
I'm
curious
about
the
street
connection
between
3a
and
3b.
There
is
one.
B
Floor
plan
that
shows
the
first
floor
interior.
I
don't
know
what
page
it
is,
but
it
shows
the
three
buildings
all
together
so
between
3a
and
3b.
There's
a
very
small
yep,
there's
a
very
small
white
connection,
and
since
this
is
a
ground
level,
I
I'm
imagining
that.
That's
not
an
easy
pass-through.
I
wonder
if
it
should
be.
N
There
is
a
connectivity
if
you,
if
you
look
at,
I
know
we're
showing
an
entry
point
here.
If
you
can
follow
my
cursor.
E
N
There
is
this
quote
yellowish
corridor,
but
this
yellowish
quarter,
if
you
follow
through,
runs
all
the
way
up.
L
N
N
N
That
stair
will
go
down
and
let
you
out
because
there's
there's
no
other,
there's
no
lobby
or
anything
like
that
to
let
you
out
too
at
that
point.
B
N
F
Thanks
for
that
presentation
arvind,
it's
very
very
interesting
to
know
your
thoughts
around
the
pattern
and
how
the
facades
were
designed.
My
question
has
to
do.
I
know
this
is
an
architectural
presentation,
but
it
has
to
do
with
whether
you're
going
to
have
rooftop
units
and
penthouses
or
if
your
mechanical
rooms
are
all
housed
within
the
floor
plan
of
the
buildings.
N
We're
going
to,
we
do
have
mechanical
spaces
within
the
buildings
and
we're
going
to
have
rooftops,
but
the
and
the
mechanical
units
will
be
housed
within
those
enclosures.
N
Those
enclosures
will
be
in
the
middle
of
the
building
and
you
have.
There
are
height
limits
to
that,
and
so
therefore,
in
our
opinion,
after
we
enclose
those
units,
you're
not
going
to
see
those
from
from
college
avenue,
you're
not
going
to
see
them
from
cook
street
you're
going
to
see
those
from
catherine
street
they'll
be
in
the
middle
of
the
building
and
they're
limited
because
of
the
systems
that
we
have
here.
N
F
Great,
it's
good
to
hear
that
you
thought
about
that.
Otherwise,
that's
all
I
have
for
today.
H
Thanks
this
really
exciting
project
and
development
and
I've
supported
it
the
whole
way,
and
I
continue
to
support
it.
I
think
it's
really
coming
along
nicely.
I
have
a.
I
have
a
bunch
of
comments,
I'll
just
run
through
them.
H
Don't
have
to
answer
them
tonight,
there's
quite
a
few,
because
there's
a
lot
going
on
here
right.
These
are
these
are
really
rich,
complex
buildings
to
kind
of
take
in,
and
I
I
feel
like
we
need
a
little
more
time,
but
that's
fine.
So
I
would
say
overall
that
I'm
really
glad
that
you're
using
terra
cotta,
you
know
primarily
as
the
primary
material
on
these
buildings
and
you're,
not
using
metal
panel
or
ifas
god
forbid,
and
so
you
know,
I
I
think
that's
right
for
college
town.
H
You
know,
I
think
it
deserves
a
stone
type
material
and
I
hope
that
you
know
when
these
things
go
up
or
we
see
mock-ups
that
it
has
a
substantial
feeling
to
it,
the
terracotta
that
it
doesn't
come
across
as
thin
veneer,
but
it
but
it
you
know
the
detailing
of
it
is
such
that
it's
you
know
has
a
has
a
weight
to
it.
I'm
curious
to
know
where
the
diamond
shaped
pattern.
H
Is
you
don't
have
to
answer
that
right
now,
but
I
didn't
really
understand
where
you
were
proposing
that
kind
of
patterning
in
terms
of
the
colors
there's
a
lot
of
colors
here
and
I
you
know,
I'm
not
a
color
theorist.
I
have
no
idea
kind
of
combinations
of
colors,
but
I
know
that
there's
a
whole
field
of
this
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
colorful
project,
and
so
you
know
some
of
the
yellows
and
bright
greens
really
stand
out
to
me.
H
As
being
you
know,
very
bold,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
right,
I
you
know
it
was
unexpected.
I
think
so.
I
feel
like
if
there's
information
or
case
studies
or
precedents,
that
you
have
that
reflect
this
kind
of
multi-dimensional
multi-colored
complex
of
buildings.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
kind
of
understand
it
and
it's
in
the
in
its
whole
kind
of
design
composition.
You
know,
for
instance,
building
3a
on
the
south.
H
H
I
had
a
question
about
the
painted
steel
stoops
and
wondering
whether
garbage
and
other
kinds
of
things
would
go
underneath
those
and
be
kind
of
a
maintenance
problem
over
time
and
wondering
whether
those
could
be
more
of
a
solid
stoop,
a
warmer
type
of
entry
and
exit
on
that
side
of
the
building.
That's
college
ave
that
seems
to
be
really
important.
The
coal,
the
steel
stoops
felt
a
little
bit
cold
to
me,
catherine
north.
I
agreed
with
emily
about
the
sky
bridges.
I
really
I
questioned
those.
H
I
don't
know
why
we
need
sky
bridges
to
connect
these
buildings.
To
me,
it
implies
more
of
a
dormitory
style
development
as
opposed
to
individual
buildings.
If
that's,
what
you're
trying
to
promote
is
three
individual
buildings
with
spaces
between.
I
think
that
makes
more
sense
not
to
have
those
bridges
so
you're
saying
that
you're
trying
to
make
them
disappear
and
disappear
with
materiality,
but
I'd
be
curious
to
know
what
your
thoughts
are
about.
Just
removing
those
all
together
the
ground
floor
of
all
buildings.
H
H
And
the
last
comment
I
had
struck
me:
the
west
facade
of
building
2a
in
the
north
facade
of
building
one
in
catherine,
north
north
facade
of
building
one
looks
very
monolithic,
and
I
know
it's
hidden
behind
the
building.
That's
next
to
it.
But
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
that
from
a
street
perspective
and
really
what
that
would
feel
like.
H
F
L
H
The
narrow,
the
narrowness
of
the
windows
of
the
west
facade
of
2a-
and
I
think
there
was
another
facade
they
seem
like
almost
non-existent,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
quality
of
the
interior
space
is
going
to
feel
like
with
windows
that
narrow
there
were.
There
were
another.
There
was
another
facade
that
it
was
like
just
barely
slits,
and
I
didn't
really
understand
why
those
were
becoming
more
opaque.
N
No,
these
I
mean
we
could
address
all
these.
So
it's
good
to
have
your
comments,
we'll
I
think
you're
gonna
put
them
down,
or
I
think
catherine
has
them
and
we'll
address
them.
The
narrow
slits
that
we're
really
I'm
gonna
just
quickly
hit
a
couple
of
them,
and
then
we
can
move
off.
N
As
far
as
the
front
stoops
are
concerned,
we're
trying
to
always
treat
those
stoops
as
not
part
of
the
building.
Our
goal
is
that
those
dupes
should
make
that
entire
environment
from
the
face
of
the
building
to
the
sidewalk,
whether
it's
in
the
narrow
part,
which
is
the
bus
stop
or
in
the
widest
part,
which
is
expanded,
part
feel,
like
part
of
quote
a
light
material.
N
We
can
always
look
at
colors.
We
can
look
at
different
things,
that's
why
we
went
away
from
actually
having
a
base
to
those
stoops
and
having
a
closure
and
all
that,
so
we
can
look
at
the
different
ways,
the
north
facade
of
building
one,
and
I
think
this
is
something
we
might
have
to
show
you
a
different
view.
This
is
the
this
is
an
elevation
that
you
will
never
see
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
N
This
is
a
drawing,
but
in
reality,
think
of
it
as
you're
walking
on
college
avenue,
and
you
have
312
that
sisters
next
to
this.
The
back
end
of
this
building,
which
is
the
right-hand
side
in
your
view,
is
not
going
to
be
part
of
any
dialogue.
It's
going
to
be
the
part
that
you
will
never
see
between
the
layers
of
the
buildings.
As
you
are
on
college
avenue,
I
think
we
can
cut
a
view
of
that
as
to
if
you're
on
the
street.
N
What
exactly
are
we
seeing
at
that
point,
and
we
would
love
to
share
that
with
you
at
that
point,
I
know:
there's
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
you
brought
forward,
that
we
will
take
a
look
at.
We
have
reasoning
for
it.
We
might
need
to
re-look
at
some
of
the
reasoning.
N
The
bridge
part
is
something
that
I
think
is
important
to
remember
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there
are
people
who
will
quote
live
in
these
buildings
and
will
need
the
day-to-day
services
in
order
to
keep
an
active
building.
A
place
has
to
be
cleaned.
Place
has
to
basically
have
garbage
taken
out.
N
It's
going
to
have
people
who
are
going
to
want
to
get
to
it
in,
as
I
said,
in
bad
weather,
so
there's
there's
reasons
for
it
there's
reasons
for
why
that
connectivity
actually
is
a
good
thing,
because
it
kind
of
facilitates
the
guy
being,
on
the
farthest
end
being
able
to
come
to
a
friend's
place
much
easier.
So
there
are
layers
as
to
reasons
as
to
why
we
think
that
it's
important
to
have
that,
but
also
design
it
well.
B
B
I
guess
and
then
see
if
we
feel
ready
to
move
on.
Yes,
I
was
curious
about
material
samples.
I
would
love
to
see
them.
Thank
you
for
coordinating
getting
physical
things
to
city
hall.
B
These
perspectives
are
really
helpful
things
for
the
presentation,
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
see
each
building
from
you
know
the
way
that
they
tie
together
and
to
continue
it
further
to
what
you're
alluding
to
street
views
of
some
of
these.
You
know
intersection
points
the
human
human
scale
perspective
views
are
going
to
be
really
helpful.
I
know
that
you'll
be
working
on
those
relating
to
mitch's
color
of
mitch's
comment
around
color.
B
I
can
imagine
that
they
are
intended
to
translate
to
various
uses,
and
so,
if
that's
the
reasoning,
you
know
with
having
multiple
color
colors
within
the
palette
yeah,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
I'm
a
fan
of
them.
I
think,
as
long
as,
as
you
say,
like
you
know,
kind
of
translates
to
whatever
vernacular
style
of
you're,
you're,
evoking
and
also
plus,
one
that
comment
around
activated
uses
on
the
ground
floor.
B
So
that
being
said,
this
is
just
a
design
review.
I
think
you've
gotten
good
feedback.
Catherine,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
had
a
chance
to
respond
to
anything
tonight,
otherwise,
we'll
we're
happy
to
review
updated
materials
when
you
get
to
it,
I'm
good!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
feedback
to
arvind,
and
I
guess
we'll
probably
plan
on
seeing
you
in
in
january,
I
would
imagine.
C
B
Well,
hopefully,
you're
taking
away
positive
feedback
around
the
direction
they
they're
they're
seeming,
very,
very
handsome
in
my
mind,
so.
I
I
L
I
am,
I
am
expecting.
I
have
a
couple
of
architects
who
should
be
joining
I've.
Let
them
know
they're
ending
good.
L
Let
me
try
that
again.
I
don't
know
why
that's
blank.
B
You
have,
I
just
want
to
say,
as
you're
setting
up
you
haven't,
had
a
sketch
plan
in
a
while,
because
you
first
stopped
doing
them
during
kovid,
but
this
was
light
meeting.
So
we
have
just
to
remind
you,
that's
just
to
give
feedback
to
the
applicant
before
they
actually
submit
their
site
point
of
view.
Application.
L
L
O
O
Yeah,
I
can
move
it
along.
Let
me
just
maximize
my
screen:
yeah,
that's.
L
L
So
we
have
two
architects
coda:
architects,
caroline
o'donnell,
as
well
as
sean
daniels,
tg
miller
engineers
are
providing
engineering
and
then
we
also
have
ian
tyndall
landscape
and
urban
design
from
washington
dc,
as
well
as
trophic
michael's,
landscape,
architects
and
john
novar
is
here
as
a
project
developer
next
slide.
Please.
L
So,
in
summary,
the
project
is
30
apartment
units
and
you
know
what
actually
you
know
what
I
think
there
were
a
couple
of
updates
to
this
presentation:
sean
sean.
Do
you
have
the
presentation.
L
L
L
L
Okay,
yes,
so
here
we
go
again
so
summary
of
the
project.
Is
there
are
30
apartment
units,
there's
a
small
ground
floor
leasing
office
for
the
project
and
then
we
will
be
requesting
two
variances
which
we'll
get
into
and
describe
in
greater
detail
later
in
the
presentation
next
slide.
L
L
It
is
adjacent
to
the
college,
town,
terrace,
apartment,
complex,
of
course,
and
and
as
you'll
see,
we
are
conceiving
of
the
development
of
the
landscape
around
this
new
project
as
really
an
extension
of
the
landscape,
really
quite
robust
landscaping
that
was
installed
at
college
down.
Terrace
will
be
extended
to
this
project
next
slide.
L
So
this
is
just
a
survey
of
the
existing
conditions
and
so
the
we've
colored
the
the
property
of
the
of
the
site,
and
you
can
see
that
currently
there
is
a
double
there's,
a
double
house
here.
This
is
student
housing.
This
existing
double
house
will
be
demolished.
L
There
is
parking
and
you
can
see
this
asphalt
drive
sort
of
really
wraps
the
site
today.
All
of
this
asphalt
is
going
to
be
removed
and
the
proposal
is
to
actually
not
build
any
parking
for
on
on
site.
That's
one
of
the
variances.
We
are
requesting
because
the
same
developer
owns
the
adjacent
college,
town,
terrace
apartments.
L
The
developer
actually
received
permission
from
the
planning
board
to
utilize
unused
parking
at
college
town
terrace
for
other
properties
for
their
other
properties,
and
so
because
it's
immediately
adjacent
and
there
is
excess
capacity-
they
they
do
not
rent
all
the
parking
spaces
that
college
down
terrace
and
so
therefore,
it's
it's
quite
convenient
to
be
able
to
use
that
parking
for
this
project,
and
the
intention
is
to
build
no
parking
here
and,
in
fact,
so
as
a
result,
we
will
actually
increase
the
modestly
increase
the
amount
of
green
space
with
the
new
development
next
slide.
L
Please
so
here
is
the
proposed
new
development.
The
new
building
is
actually
cited
closer
to
valentine
place,
to
give
it
more
of
a
presence
on
the
street.
The
the
existing
building
is
set
deep
back
into
the
site,
the
there's
an
entrance
plaza
on
the
northern
corner
there
at
the
front
entrance
to
the
building
and
then
down
at
the
south
end
along
the
front.
There's
a
service
drive
for
loading
and
unloading.
L
There's
a
dumpster
there
to
give
access
to
the
dumpster
and
then
there's
a
a
stair
that
goes
down
into
the
goes
down
to
the
basement.
L
The
rest
of
the
site,
as
I
mentioned,
is
really
planted
really
extensively,
with
a
combination
of
evergreen
trees
and
large
deciduous
trees
and
some
smaller
native
flowering
trees,
and
so
I
think,
in
a
short
period
of
time,
this
will
be
really
a
very
robust
landscape.
L
You
can
also
see,
there's
very
actually
very
few
trees
on
the
site
today.
There's
just
there's
a
couple
of
large
ones
in
front
that
sort
of
obscure
the
building
from
the
street,
but
in
general,
there's
very
a
little
landscaping
on
the
site
today
and
those
trees
will
be
removed.
There
was
no
real
landscape
plan,
they
you
know
sort
of
ad
hoc
what's
out
there
today
and
they
will
be
removed.
L
You
can
see,
however,
that
even
at
the
back
of
the
property
on
the
adjacent
property
that
the
sort
of
grade
vegetation
there,
the
so
the
there's
extensive
planting
just
beyond
the
property
line
and
that,
of
course,
all
stays
there
will
be
a
new
retaining
wall
along
the
northern
edge
of
the
property.
L
Currently
the
building
actually
sits
quite
high,
and
so
there's
sort
of
extensive
staircases
that
lead
you
up
to
the
front
of
the
building,
so
the
building
is
actually
being
lowered
to
be,
this
building
will
be
more
at
the
same
elevation
as
the
street,
so
it
has
a
better
sort
of
street
front
relationship,
also
an
accessible
entrance,
whereas
today
that
doesn't
actually
exist
on
the
building,
and
so
because
it's
being
lowered
to
be
really
at
approximately
the
elevation
valentine
place,
we
have
a
retaining
wall
along
the
northern
edge.
L
L
So
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
caroline
o'donnell
to
speak.
About
the
architecture
and
the
kind
of
the
neighborhood
context.
O
Okay
thanks
catherine
yeah,
I'm
caroline
o'donnell,
I'm
one
of
the
architects
on
this
incredible
team.
I
work
together
with
iris
cha
ciao
ma,
who
is
kindly
sharing
her
screen
with
us
and
you'll,
be
introduced
to
the
the
other
architecture
team
member
in
a
few
slides.
O
So,
let's
start
by
having
a
little
walk
through
the
neighborhood,
we'll
start
with
there's
a
legend
on
the
top
left
for
where
the
photos
are
taken
photo
one
is
on
east
state
street
and
you
can
just
see
the
cars
coming
out
of
the
intersection.
That's
the
intersection
with
valentine
place
photo
2
is
right
at
that
intersection
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
Looking
down
valentine
place,
number
three
is
walking
a
little
further
down
the
street.
We
can
still
see
the
building
on
the
corner
of
state
street.
O
That's
915
e
state
street
image
four
is,
is
really
pretty
interesting.
It's
a
long,
collage
montage
of
all
of
the
entire
south
side
of
the
street,
so
all
of
the
buildings
currently
on
that
street
to
residential
buildings,
and
you
can
see
the
site
and
the
the
current
buildings
obscured
there.
Maybe
iris
you
can
put
your
hand
there.
O
Yeah
by
the
by
the
trees
in
the
front,
you
can
just
make
out
the
the
two
buildings
there
and
on
the
right,
of
course,
the
the
beginning
of
the
building
from
college
town
terrace
that
ends
ends
that
kind
of
montage
number
five
is
the
view
from
looking
from
the
site
directly
outward
that
those
are
buildings,
106
and
10
112
college
town,
terrace
number
six
is
the
building
that
truncates
the
end
of
that
street.
O
So
really
the
view
as
you
get
right
to
the
bottom
and
number
seven
is
just
turning
around
the
corner
to
see
the
continuation
of
of
the
street
around
the
corner
and
right
at
the
bottom.
Is
the
street
elevation
so
containing
all
of
the
same
information
as
the
montage
in
number
four,
but
with
the
new
building
facade
added
in
so
you
can
see
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
think
the
sawtooth
parapet
references
the
pitched
roofs
of
the
adjacent
houses
and
articulates
the
roofline.
O
The
cantilevered
section
on
the
on
the
left
here
that
pulls
out
the
facade,
separates
the
public
from
the
private
and
provides
additional
privacy
for
the
residents.
O
There
is
a
heart
you
can
just
make
out
on
the
top
left
corner,
to
reference,
its
location
on
valentine
place
and
at
the
bottom
you
can
see
the
the
facade
kind
of
lifts
up
for
a
glazed
opening
and
that's
the
the
main
entrance
to
the
residential
and
the
office
components.
So
the
offices,
the
leasing
offices,
are
in
the
base
there
and
the
glaze
portion,
and
that's
also
the
entrance
for
the
residents
next
slide.
O
The
front
facade
material
is
perforated
corrugated
gold
metal,
especially
for
mitch
the
perforations
create
a
sense
of
glow
and
translucency,
especially
at
night.
These
architectural
features,
along
with
the
extensive
landscaping
that's
been
described
by
my
colleague,
constitute
a
design
response
that
we
hope
is
appropriate
to
and
respectful
of
the
existing
context.
M
Not
just
the
phone
okay,
all
right,
sorry
about
that,
I'm
sean
daniels!
I
am
going
to
be
reviewing
the
zoning
portion
of
this
of
this
project.
The
project
is
zoned
r3a
residential,
as
patron
pointed
out
earlier,
we're
meeting
all
the
requirements
outlined
in
the
district
regulations
chart,
with
the
exception
of
two
of
them,
which
we'll
be
seeking
variances
for
the
first
variance
is
for
column
four,
which
is
off
street
parking.
M
M
The
parking
requirement
for
college
down
terrace
apartments,
the
adjacent
complex
owned
by
the
same
owner
is
approximate,
has
approximately
650
spaces
on
a
yearly
basis.
Approximately
half
of
these
spaces
are
leased.
The
developer
has
previously
made
arrangements
with
the
city
and
planning
board
to
allow
tenants
of
other
properties
they
own
at
college,
to
park
at
college
downterrace,
and
they
intend
excuse
me
to
provide
the
same
opportunities
as
attendants
of
this
project.
M
The
second
variance
we'll
be
seeking
is
for
column,
six
minimum
lot
size.
The
calculation
in
the
zoning
ordinance
allows
for
17
apartment
units
for
the
property
based
on
lot
square
footage
and
that's
units
not
lock
coverage
that
we're
talking
about
the
number
of
units
in
terms
of
minimum
lot
size.
The
plans
we
are
proposing
include
30
units.
M
The
discrepancy
is
not
one
of
building
square
footage
or
bedrooms,
but
of
how
the
space
is
divided
into
apartments.
Early
on.
There
was
an
alternate
layout
that
we
considered,
which
included
15
units
with
three
and
four
bedroom
unit
mix
which
meets
this
zoning
requirement.
Ironically,
this
alternate
layout
includes
four
more
beds
than
our
proposal
in
the
same
building
with
the
same
square
footage.
M
M
In
addition,
in
the
age
of
covid
that
we're
all
living
in
living
alone
or
in
smaller
groups
with
one
bathroom
per
bedroom
has
become
a
lot
more
attractive
for
students
and
their
parents,
that's
the
reasoning
for
our
two
variances
and
now
catherine
will
discuss
our
proposed
approvals
schedule.
Catherine.
L
Sorry
about
that,
yes,
so
in
conclusion,
just
to
sort
of
give
you
an
overview
of
how
we
are
anticipating
the
schedule.
So
we
are
planning
in
a
january
to
submit
our
formal
site
plan
review
application,
and
then
we
would
anticipate
in
february.
L
We
would
be
presenting
that
to
the
planning
board
march
would
then
be
declaring
lead
agency
april
public
hearing,
we're
hoping
for
a
neg
deck
and
bza
recommendation
in
about
june
or
the
public,
or
go
to
the
bza
in
july,
and
then
hope
that
we
could
get
preliminary
and
final
approval
at
the
end
of
july.
L
So
that
is
our
overview
at
this
point
of
the
approval
schedule.
So
I
think
we're
looking
for
a
pre-application
meeting
in
early
january
and
and
then
hope
to
just
really
hit
the
whole
process
hard.
B
Great
thank
you.
We
can
maybe
speak
to
the
schedule
a
little
bit
at
the
end,
with
staff
I'll,
send
it
around
to
each
member
of
the
board
to
provide
their
feedback
and
before
that
I'll
just
say
that
I
you
know
this
is
a
really
interesting
building.
It
seems
like
something
that
is
both.
You
know
unique
and
contextual.
B
I,
like
that
aspect
of
it
will
be
really
curious,
I'll,
be
curious
to
see
things
like
bike
parking
if
it's
covered,
where
it
is
externally
how
people
move
in
and
out
of
the
building,
of
course,
you're
familiar
with
all
of
these
requirements.
B
As
far
as
the
pl,
the
variances
go
on
the
parking
you
mentioned,
how
many
parking
spaces
our
leased-
we'll
probably
just
you
know-
need
to
have
for
our
environment
to
review
some
kind
of
table
about
your
expected
ins
and
outs
of
of
people
and
in
the
building,
and
also
in
the
parking
lot.
I
think
we're
you
know
we're
generally
in
favor
of
off
street
parking
variances,
but
as
much
as
you
can
get
ahead
of
providing
text
and
narrative
for
the
environment
will
be
helpful.
B
Get
some
other
feedback
from
the
board
and
then
you
know
we'll
look
forward
to
hopefully
moving
along
on
the
schedule
as
proposed
without
any
you
know,
given
that
there
aren't
any
snags
or
anything,
but
let
me
start
with
emily
sure.
Thank
you.
It's
fun
to
do
a.
B
I'm
supportive
of
the
your
variants
for
no
parking.
I
think
it's
really
clever
to
you
know,
use
the
other
site
and
add
more
green
space.
That
seems
like
a
win,
and
I
really
like
the
depth
of
facade
and
materiality
that
you're
using.
I
hope
that
same
high
quality
material
will
be
used,
not
necessarily
the
same
exact
but
a
similar
high
quality
material
around
the
other
facades
of
the
building.
L
Actually
iris,
could
you
maybe
flip
to
either
the
facade
or
this
the
site
plan
just
depending
on
what
the
comments
are
about
thanks
sure,
thank.
B
You
I
think
this
sawtooth
idea
at
the
roofline
is
really
interesting.
It
looks
like
it's
a
facade
treatment,
a
thick
facade.
I
think
it
could
be
interesting
to
explore
this
as
a
functional
aspect
of
the
building.
You
know
as
a
light
well
or
you
know
whatever
functional
quality
you
could
have
for
that
top
level,
and
I
I
think
it
does
have
the
internet
intellectual
connection
to
the
vernacular
houses
on
the
street,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it
goes.
J
B
There's
a
lot
of
colorful
palettes
around
on
the
other
valentine's
place
building,
so
I
also
appreciate
that
this
one
has
a
more
subdued
palette,
but
yet
a
really
exciting
and
dynamic
facade
thanks.
Thank
you.
Emily
mitch.
H
Yeah
thanks
yeah,
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
like
metal
panel
buildings.
We
just
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
them
in
ithaca
lately,
but
this
metal
panel
is
really
interesting
and
really
nice.
So
I
appreciate
you
using
a
material
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
and
using
it
in
a
really
sophisticated
nice
way.
So
I
think
it's
great
to
see
totally
support
the
parking
variants.
H
Less
off
street
parking
and
more
shared
parking
is
a
great
idea.
The
lot
size-
I
you
know,
support
more
density
here
and
I
think,
there's
good
logic
behind
it.
H
I
think
there
just
needs
to
be
some
thought
in
terms
of
that
front
landscape
so
that
it
allows
the
architecture
to
to
read
through
along
the
street,
because
it's
so
nice-
and
I
really
I
just
think
this
building-
has
the
potential
to
be
one
of
the
most
interesting,
unique
buildings
in
ithaca
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah
thanks
for
this,
so
are
you
thinking
of
doing
something
like
a
cross
easement
with
the
other
building
to
support
the
parking
or
were
you
thinking
of
just
unbundling,
or
I
would
just
echo
mackenzie's
comments
about
having
transportation
demand
management
narrative
for
the
eaf?
To
really
support
that
I
mean,
I
know
it's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
in
the
form
districts
as
a
requirement,
but
I
think
that
would
make
helping
make
a
case
for
that
yeah.
It's
really
cool
and
that's
a
really
whimsical
heart
and
thanks
very
much.
F
Thanks
for
your
presentation,
I
actually
don't
have
much
to
add.
I
look
forward
to
learning
more
about
the
project
and
seeing
the
floor
plans
and.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I
suppose
one
thing
that
I
might
add
around
the
I
think
you
said
the
ground
floor
will
be
leasing,
office,
spaces,
keeping
those
somewhat
active
and
attractive
as
ground
floor
places.
I
mean
we're,
you
know,
kind
of
on
the
edge
of
residential
and
commercial
here
near
some
intersections.
B
So
hopefully
those
are
windowed
spaces.
It
looks
like
they
are.
B
Yeah
sounds
like
you
got
a
little
bit
of
feedback.
Definitely
the
right
direction.
Any
questions
or
comments
for
the
board
or
staff
from
the
applicant
team.
C
B
Lisa
to
just
make
sure
that
that
proposed
schedule
is,
you
know,
feasible
or
reasonable
and
of
course,
some
of
it.
We
know
we
just
won't
know
till
we
get
there
we'll
work
with
them
to
you
know,
review
it
and.
B
B
B
Yeah
it's
a
this
is
a
one
of
many
appeals,
you're
going
to
get
that
are
related
to
the
revisions,
recent
revisions
to
the
telecommunication
ordinance
and
which
one
required
most
projects
to
go
through
the
bza
and
two
had
a
provision
in
it
for
that
telecommunications
facilities
had
to
be
located.
B
I
can't
remember
the
distance.
Oh
I'm
sure
it's
in
here
500
feet
from
residences,
250
feet
from
adjacent
residences
right
now,
most
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
are
already
existing
on
buildings
and
they
are
in
either
on
residential
buildings
or
very
close
to
residences.
So
they
all
now
these
projects
that
you
used
to
never
see
they
were
just
approved
on
a
staff
level.
You'll
see
them
all
for
variances
because
they
don't
meet
this
requirement
of
being
250
feet
from
residences.
J
C
B
It's
there
they're,
just
they're
modifying
it,
they're,
adding
up
they're,
adding
a
a
provider
on
top
it's
on
top
of
the
hotel,
and
they
don't
need
the
requirement
to
be
250
feet
from
the
residence.
B
Staff
level-
and
I
thought
this
one
met
that
too
often
providers
swap
out
antennas
almost
nearly
on
all
of
the
facilities.
This
one
is
actually
adding
and
cement,
adding
a
provider
and
switching
out
where
things
are,
I'm
happy
to
show
you
the
application.
If
you're
interested,
I
asked
for
a
visual
simulations
that
I'm
happy
to
show.
If
you
want
me
to.
B
All
right,
I
have
line
drawings.
I
have
line
drawings
too,
but
this
is
these
are
the
visual
simulations,
so
this
is
existing
and
proposed.
Let's
see
if
you
can
see
it
so
there's
antennas
here
in
existing
the
proposed
antennas
will
be
up
there.
Oh
no,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
up
the
wrong
I'm
at
the
wrong.
Let
me
get
to
the
top
okay.
This
is
existing
on
this
side
proposed,
so
you'll
see
that
their
antenna
is
sticking
up
here.
They're
gonna
then
be
put
on
the
side
of
the
building.
B
B
B
F
Want
to
see
line
drawings
no,
but
can
you
just
zoom
in
zoom
in
sure.
G
F
G
B
Because
yeah
I
mean
we
wouldn't
want
to
set
a
precedent
necessarily
of
having
this
be
within
the
you
know
dedicated
number
of
feet,
but
it's
an
existing
like
non-conformity,
so
I
think
it
looks
better
and
yeah.
We
don't
see
any
long-term
negative
impacts.
I
don't
feel
like
that.
We
need
to
be
very,
you
know,
flourished
in
our
recommendation
to
the
bca.
Just
it
seems
fine,
it's
an
existing,
no
long
term
yep.
B
B
And
then
we
have
a.
We
have
a
training
plan
for
february,
which
I
think
will
be
great
with
the
bza
and
adam
walton.
You've
seen
before
that
he
made
chain
works.
Interesting
chain
works,
eis,
somewhat
interesting,
he's
really
good
he'll,
be
talking
to
you
and
us
about
how
to
work
better
together
between
two
boards
or
how
to
work
together.
So
that's
great.
E
I
J
B
15Th
is
the
bca
joint
training?
Okay,
thank
you,
and
are
we
all
required
to
conduct
new
york
state
anti-sexual
harassment,
training,
r,
you've?
Probably
most
of
you
done
it
through
your
work.
You
could
just
either
send
it
to
me
or
leslie
moskowitz,
who
I
think
has
been
in
touch
with
you.
The
certificates.
B
It
doesn't
look
like
it.
Okay,
I
don't
have
any
report
from
the
chair
seat
and
we
don't.
We
can't
have
a
bpw
report
without
garrick
lisa
any
report
from
you.
I
just
I
sent
you
all
the
ad
for
the
we're
hiring
a
planner.
B
So
if
you
know
anyone
please
pass
it
on,
but
I
want
to
say
is
thank
you
so
much
for
your
service
this
year,
another
unbelievably
busy
year
and
if
you
and
I
are
meeting
tomorrow
to
look
at
the
agenda
for
next
year
because
we
already
had
lots
of
projects
come
through.
So
you
know
it's
gonna
be
another
busy
year.
So
thank
you
so
much.
It
looks
a
lot
better
because
if
you
really.
A
Just
one
one,
quick
thing
that
came
up
in
the
other
meeting
that
I
was
helping
broadcast
in
the
live
stream.
The
new
york
state,
the
governor's
executive
orders
that
extend
our
virtual
meetings,
will
be
expiring
in
mid-january,
so
keep
an
eye
and
an
ear
open.
We'll.
A
B
C
B
J
H
I
B
Of
adjournment
kenzie
says
yes,
cj
mitch,
emily
elizabeth,
we
all
say
yes
by
show
of
hands.
Yeah
see
you
next
year
happy
new
year.