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B
B
D
So
I'm
Kate
Chester,
oh
here,
for
when
I'm
planning
and
design
working
with
the
casino
group,
Kiki
Miller
engineering
and
many
others,
but
that's
our
core
project
theme
morning
Bruce
and
we're
here
with
our
our
first
PRC
meeting
after
our
first
official
planning
board
meeting
with
a
few
project
updates
of
what
we've
submitted
our
copies
of
what
we
showed
on
the
screen
during
the
planning
board
meeting
related
to
the
lot
line
and
the
actual
parcel
that's
being
worked
on
for
this
project.
A
clarification
on
Kate,
okay,.
A
A
D
So,
in
the
submission
we
we
gave
copies
of
a
few
drawings
that
we
showed
during
the
planning
board
meeting.
We
just
wanted
to
clarify
a
few
things
about
the
project,
mostly
related
to
the
actual
site
that
is
being
improved
and
the
lot
line
because
of
the
nature
of
the
project,
being
a
city-owned
parcel
and
being
the
result
of
a
RFP
process.
We
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
what
the
project
limits
were
and
also
what
the
limits
of
the
site
improvements
were.
So
those
were
those
diagrams.
D
We
also
submitted
a
few
revisions
to
the
full
environmental
assessment
form
part
1
again,
the
acreage
was.
It
was
one
of
the
bigger
questions
on
that
of
what
are
you
disturbing,
and
so
we
we
can
talk
about
any
outstanding
questions
there
might
be
about
those
hold
on.
Will
I
pull
this
up?
We
submitted
a
copy
of
our
civil
drawings
there
early
yet,
but
when
we
originally
submitted
them,
some
of
the
titles
were
not
clear.
So
did
that
mostly
out
of
clarity.
D
So
those
were
the
contents
of
our
submission
and
we're
here
this
morning
to
talk
about
those
updates
and
to
continue
the
conversation
that
began
during
the
planning
board
meeting
and
talk
about
next
steps
for
the
project
and
what
we're
planning
to
submit
next,
and
also
a
few
meetings
that
we're
looking
toward
in
the
coming
weeks.
And
some
of
your
insight
on
that.
D
I
guess
I
mean
really
we
wanted
I
mean
unless
there
are
any
questions
about
what
we
submitted.
We
wanted
to
continue
our
conversation
from
the
planning
board
meeting
and
talk
about
what
we're
planning
to
submit.
Next,
we
heard
an
generally
positive
response
to
the
elevations
that
have
been
submitted.
D
There
was
some
interest
that
we
heard
and
we
are
still
working
through
the
ground
level
improvements
for
the
plaza
as
we
shared
during
the
planning
board
meeting
last
month.
It
was
just
finally
decided
that
there
will
be
a
conference
center
on
the
first
three
levels
of
the
building,
so
we're
still
doing
some
design
responses
related
to
the
site,
knowing
that
major
programmatic
element
we're
also
still
working
through
some
of
the
facade
improvements
for
the
garage.
D
D
We're
working
with
them
now
we're
planning
to
submit
a
narrative
from
Tatom
engineers
related
to
the
status
of
that
conversation.
They'll
address
how
the
project
is
relating
to
all
of
the
city
of
Ithaca
energy
code
supplement,
as
well
as
the
county
energy
materials.
So
that
is
coming
your
way
for
this
next
submission.
D
D
D
F
B
So
that
seems
like
a
good
update
on
where
you
are
in
the
process,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that
I
think
you
got
fairly
decent
feedback
and
fairly
consistent
feedback.
Last
time
we
were
planning
board
and
it
sounds
like
as
much
as
things
have
been
updated
since
then,
there's
not
a
lot,
that's
maybe
been
changed
since
then.
D
Mean
really
speaking
for
myself,
I'm
more
interested
in
hearing
from
you
all
more
as
I
said,
we're
still
working
through
things.
Some
of
our
questions
are
really
more
for
staff
about.
We
have
some
meetings
we'd
like
to
set
up
with
the
building
department,
we're
wondering
whether
it
would
make
sense
at
some
point
in
the
future
for
us
to
attend
a
PCC
meeting,
but
we
don't
at
least
I,
don't
have
any
yeah.
F
Secondly,
we
have
this
week
published
a
preliminary
schematic
design
package
for
each
of
the
two
buildings.
The
garage
structure,
as
well
as
the
mixed-use
building
those
schematic
design
packages
are
in
internal
design
and
construction
review
process
right
now,
they're,
not
ready
for
primetime,
but
hopefully
by
the
Planning
Board
meeting,
we'll
also
be
able
to
submit
some
of
those
materials,
including
some
submit
some
further
exterior
views
and
rent
and
elevations
and
renderings.
F
G
Sure
I
mean
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
Florida
floor
plans
of
the
conference
center
Bruce
that
you're
reviewing
today.
I
really
think
that
the
ground
level,
how
it
approaches
Greene
Street,
is
super
important
how
the
conference
center
meets
the
street
where
the
doors
are.
You
know
right
now,
conceptually
and
I'm
sure
this
is
changing
the
doors
you
know
go
to
the
that
new
public
space,
the
passage
and
I.
You
know:
I
want
the
elevation
at
the
ground
level
on
Green
Street
to
be
open,
welcoming
doors
in
case.
B
G
F
Yeah
five
seconds
point:
two:
okay
to
view
it
on
share
your
screen.
Yeah
there
we
go
so
just
to
that
question.
I've
got
the
ground
level
conference
interplan
with
a
bunch
of
notes
on
it
here,
but
you
can
see
one
of
the
things
we've
done
is
reorganized
that
first
level,
so
we
could
have
sort
of
entrance
doors.
On
the
west
side,
we've
got
some
entrance
doors
sent
from
Center
on
Green
Street
and
then
some
entrance
doors
back
into
the
cinema,
FLA's
plaza
area
so
and
still
trying
to
create
some
backstreet
activity.
F
G
C
D
We're
working
through
some
studies
with
the
design
team,
preliminary
they're
really
interesting,
and
it's
it's
so
nice
to
see
how
the
patterns
of
shadows
change
throughout
the
year.
This
lot
of
light
at
noon
throughout
the
year
does
have
direct
Sun
in
it.
We're
looking
at
ways
that
shadow
patterns
can
be
created
with
architectural
materials,
landscape
materials,
light
I
mean
just
in
general,
is
so
so
important
for
this
space
yeah.
We
did
take
those
to
heart.
F
F
Think
I
think
Kate.
One
of
the
big
things
is
we're
just
looking
ahead.
We're
looking
at
trying
to
gain
some
approvals
in
May
I.
Think
design
was
our
schedule
May
meeting
so
April
we're
going
to
kind
of
go
through
the
fief
and
go
through
any
final
questions
on
that
in
May.
We're
going
to
go
through
a
design
review,
so
we'll
have
some
points,
some
color
boards
and
actual
digital
things.
F
E
F
We
imagine
this
going
in
for
building
permits
late
this
this
year
in
the
fall
being
able
to
secure
permits,
late
November
demoing,
the
west
section
in
January
and
starting
construction,
the
garage
expansion
immediately
thereafter
and
then,
once
the
garage
expansion
is
coming
to
a
completion,
they
would
start
the
foundations
for
the
mixed
use,
building
and
going
up
in
some
time
in
late,
2021
and
completion
of
that
project.
In
late
2023.
B
B
A
Want
to
say
yes,
so
for
the
Planning
Board
meeting
will
do
they
can
do
their
updates.
We'll
have
a
draft
part
two
and
I'll
draft
out
the
part.
Three
it'll
have
things
missing,
because
there's
some
things
that
we
don't
know
yet,
and
so
we
should
be
in
a
good
place
if
you
get
the
drawings
in
to
do
design
review
and
three.
J
B
A
A
A
A
L
Great,
so
not
a
lot
has
changed.
Since
the
Planning
Board
meeting,
we
had
a
little
delay
with
the
some
survey
updates,
including
a
topographic.
We
did
finally
get
that
this
week.
So
a
lot
of
the
the
technical
documents
are
going
to
progress
as
we
get
to
the
planning
board
meeting.
There's
few
things
to
know
actually
I'm
going
to
show
you
my
live
software.
L
So
I've
been.
You
know.
The
property
line
here
is
the
airplane
building,
here's
the
property
line.
So
there
is
a
swath
of
green
space,
not
really
sure
exactly.
If
this
is
final
or
not,
but
anyway,
you
know
that
was
one
one
question
you
know,
I
think
another
comment
was
you
know
we
were
exploring
this
idea
of
a
parking
area
over
to
the
side
on
city
land,
but
I
think
we've
sort
of
put
that
one
to
bed
for
now
so
I'm,
you
know
closing
this
up.
That
was
a
question.
L
L
L
Truck
with
outriggers,
you
know,
so
this
is
the
aerial
access
side
and
then,
if
they're
coming
further
along
Brindley
as
it
transitions
to
Tabor,
you
know
that
they
can.
The
trucks
can
pull
in
here.
Technically
they
can
serve
the
building,
but
they're
gonna
be
a
little
bit
further
from
the
building.
So
this
is
more
of
a
fire
access
point
rather
than
the
aerial
access
point,
and
then
it
would
be
a
you
know:
really
a
t-shape
back
out
to
the
street
to
exit
the
property,
so
Tom
summarizing
Lee
signed
off
on
that
very
quickly.
L
So
I
guess
he
was
good
with
that.
So
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
heard
anything
internally
anyway,
that's
I'd
say
that's
the
biggest
on
the
site.
You
know
like
I,
say
we
I
gotta
dig
into
the
stormwater
design
a
little
bit
more.
Now
that
we
have
topo,
we
can
really
sort
that
out.
It
is
real,
essential
e,
a
flat
site,
but
there's
a
little
more
then
you
might
think.
But
ultimately
it's
pretty
uneventful
in
terms
of
grading-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
this
is
existing.
All
the
white
is
existing
parking.
L
L
L
There
were
some
comments
about
these
balconies
on
the
front.
When
we
go
to
the
street
view,
yeah
I'm
gonna
work
on
that
a
little
bit
see
if
I
can
you
know
develop
that
a
little
bit
more
there.
You
know
I
think
there
were
some
comments
about.
You
know,
there's
a
blending
of
styles
here
you
know
trying
to
work
with
that
industrial
building,
aesthetic
a
little
bit
a
lot
like
side
works
and
then
there's
some.
L
A
L
It's
it's
I'm,
not!
This
is
actually
the
I
think
the
first
time
I
dealt
with
the
actual
design
review
application.
So
I'm
not
as
I
read
down
through
you
know
the
guy.
You
know
the
primary
guidelines
and
in
elements
like
that
it
you
know
it
seems
like
me
rest.
It
I
need
to
give
you
a
response.
So
I
was
working
towards.
You
had
said
the
xx,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
respond.
Okay,
all.
L
K
L
L
A
L
L
B
B
G
Was
curious
about
the
relationship
of
the
new
pedestrian
bridge
and
pedestrian
way,
with
the
inlet
edge
and
the
easement
as
you
wrap
around
I,
don't
know
what
the
larger
master
plan
is
for
this
district
as
part
of
the
water
point
rezoning
in
terms
of
paths
on
spaces,
I
know,
Friends
of
Stewart
Park
has
an
office
down
there.
There's
a
park
space
there
is
there.
Well.
Has
there
ever
been
any
discussion
about
coming
off
that
peg
bridge
and
just
going
onto
the
inlet
and
walking
all
the
way
down
through
the
cherry
arts
district.
L
K
L
J
B
E
A
L
A
G
L
L
L
L
The
public
hearing
is
probably
the
the
primary
component
of
the
board
meeting
this
month.
In
our
eyes
there
was
question
mount
community
outreach,
maybe
we're
doing
this
little
backwards,
but
I
think
that'll
just
be
our
Borean
to
seeing
what
the
neighbors
think
about
the
project
and
and
then
the
other
big
update
on
this
project
is
the
the
client
has
asked
me
to
to
really
pause
the
project,
so
we're
not
actively
working
on
anything
at
the
moment.
So
the
update
is
it's.
It's
paused.
L
K
E
L
L
I,
don't
think
so,
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
was.
You
know
the
street
access
and
the
the
drive,
and
you
know
dealing
with
the
technical
component,
so
you
know
my
I
think
my
feedback
requirement
is
reached.
You
know
I
need
to
reach
out
to
Tim
loca
bout,
that
other
than
that
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I
saw
recently
was
the
city
force
their
comment
again
about
you
know
impacting
these
existing
trees
along
the
line.
Here
there
is.
M
L
Existing
walk
away
and
stare
right
here
and
existing
building
footprint
is
right.
Here
we
had
shown
on
the
demo
and
utility
plan
a
new
sewer
line
coming
in
here,
but
we're
going
to
move
that
and
really
just
try
to
make
sure
the
the
only
thing
really
impacting
in
terms
of
excavation
into
the
site
is
the
the
foundation
and
since
it's
all
really.
K
L
L
G
Jason,
can
you
just
explain
just
very
briefly
again
the
phasing
of
this
potential
project
I
know
it's
on
pause
now,
but
let's
say
it
moves
ahead.
I
read
an
article
from
the
voice,
maybe
that
said
something
about
a
feature:
synagogue
and
then
you
had
mentioned
at
the
board
meeting
about
doing
something
on
the
roof.
Potentially.
Can
you
just
clarify
that
for
me
what
the
phasing
is
and
those
ideas
yeah.
L
And
I
actually
reached
out
to
Brian
Crandall
at
the
ethnic
voice
because
he
grabbed
some
info,
that's
on
the
Habad
website
and
they
put
up
some
renderings
and
described
a
potential
project
for
fundraising
purposes,
but
that
was
from
a
couple
years
ago,
when
we
did
more
of
a
pie-in-the-sky
feasibility
analysis.
We
had
a
big
synagogue
tucked
into
the
back
here.
L
You
know
the
second-floor
build-out,
which
I
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting.
You
know
there's
some
classroom
space
that
would
is
likely
to
come
along
at
some
point.
You
know,
but
it's
you
know
it's
really
unknown
at
this
point.
So
that
was
the
premise
and
the
reason
for
the
flat
roof
at
this
time.
If
we
did
expand
upward
it'd,
be
you
know,
two-thirds
to
three-quarters
of
the
the
roof,
it
wouldn't
touch
the
front
to
soften
and
step
back
the
the
building
height.
L
E
L
You
know
I
think
it
would
it'll
happen
eventually
that
that
classroom
expansion,
but
the
a
lot
of
what
was
on
the
website,
there's
a
rendering
with
a
stair
tower
and
a
turret
that
was
put
in
the
article,
and
that
was
all
it's
all
gone
since
we've
changed
gears
and
we've
developed
this
new
scheme,
or
you
know,
there's
a
little
misinformation,
even
though
the
cost
numbers
are
are
are
off
there.
So
I'll
just
take
that
with
a
grain
of
salt.
Now
I
will
add
that
expanding
the
the
sanctuary
or
the
synagogue
like
space.
L
So
there
was,
there
was
a
thought
of
maybe
bumping
out
in
the
future.
You
know,
and
it
would
require
a
variance
to
do
that.
You
know
or
possibly
is
just
squaring
this
off
and
making
this
a
little
bit
more
of
a
functional
room,
perhaps
with
just
a
bump
out
here.
The
reality
is
it's
all
about
dining
in
the
more
of
the
social
interaction
and
serving
food
and
then
the
sanctuary.
So
this
is
a
nice
large
meeting,
room,
sanctuary,
space
or
medium
sized
sanctuary
space,
and
you
know
a
classroom
space.
L
So
that's
the
primary
function
is
really
the
dining
the
social
and
classroom
space.
So
you
know
meeting
and
lounge,
and
that's
where
that
second
floor
over
this
back,
half
would
really
come
in
and
and
what
it
would
want
to
expand.
But
none
of
these
I
mean
it's
hard
to
say
what
the
future
holds.
But
you
know
you
know
these.
This
is
where
how
it
could
expand
if.
L
G
L
Yeah
there
was
talk
about
that
a
free
site
plan,
and
since
it
wasn't,
you
know
it
was
unknown
as
to
what
it
would
evolve
into
and
whether
it
would
happen
and
and
when
it
would
happen.
You
know
the
thought
was
maybe
just
not
confuse
it.
Make
make
this
project
I.
Think
even
at
the
first
PRC
meeting
last
month
there
was
talk
about
trying
to
make
this
project
as
it
is
stand
on
its
own
aesthetically
and
everything.
L
B
L
B
A
L
If
it
has
to
extend,
you
know
carry
over
to
the
next
meeting
that
that's
understood,
because
there
are
some
gaps
in
the
application
at
the
moment
and
then
the
only
other
question
I
had
was
the
environmental
assessment.
You
know
the
agenda
said
going
through
parts
two
and
three
I'm,
not
sure
you
really
have
enough
information
to
do
that.
L
L
B
B
A
B
M
A
B
B
A
C
A
B
D
N
Wanted
to
make
sure
if
there's
anything
outstanding
for
you
guys
that
would
that
we
need
to
address
before
that
that
meeting
and
then
the
other
thing
we're
looking
for
is
to
do
it
quickly.
Move
through
site
plan
approval,
after
that
either
partial
site
plan
approval
for
a
phase
one
right
away,
I
mean
it.
We
would
absolutely
love
it
if
it'd
be
possible
to
have
an
egg
deck
and
a
preliminary
phase.
One
approval
in
one
meeting
and
looking
at
may
for
further
approvals
and.
H
B
A
Don't
know
I
feel
like
I've,
given
them
we've,
given
them
plenty
of
time
I.
They
I
asked
them
yesterday.
If
they
would
have
comments
back
to
us.
You
know
by
the
you
know
midweek
next
week,
I
feel
like
I
feel
like
for
just
from
a
process
point
of
view,
we've
given
them
a
ton
of
time,
so
I
feel
like
it's
okay
to
go
forward
with
the
neg
duck.
A
Even
if
we
don't
hear
from
them
because
they've
been
very
involved
in
the
project,
you
can
always
amend
it
if
we
have
to
but
I
think
at
this
point
they
know
what
our
intentions
are.
They've
been
very
involved,
so
we
could
go
ahead
unless
there's
some
other
outstanding
item.
That
would
stop
you
well.
B
As
I
recall,
the
transportation
was
really
the
sticking
point
there
and
everything
else
felt
pretty
baked
unless
there's
there's
anybody
on
the
board,
who
recalls
that
being
different
or
anybody,
applicants
or
anybody
else
who
recalls
that
being
different,
so
the
neck
deck
I
think
is
is
is
not
gonna.
Be
that
hard.
B
A
A
I'm
not
seeing
it
all
right,
you
see
it.
We
do
this.
Okay,
so
so
I
mean
I,
feel
like
we've
and
certainly
to
the
level
of
site
plan
review
for
this
project.
So
the
outstanding
conditions
are,
you
know
things
that
the
plant,
some
things
that
the
plane
board
doesn't
have
any
control
over,
like
the
transferring
purchase
of
city
lands,
the
community
garden
lease
there
was.
A
A
We
do
need
to
have
a
discussion
about
the
responsibility
for
installation
of
the
transportation
mitigations
because
of
course-
and
we've
talked
to
the
applicant
about
this
because
of
course,
as
without
an
environmental
impact
statement,
all
of
the
mitigations
have
to
be
agreed
to
by
the
applicant,
and
so
they
have
so
we
haven't
had
that
discussion
in
a
meaningful
way.
I
think
the
noise
mitigation
czar
from
the
part
three
adoption
of
Planned
Unit
development,
that's
by
Common
Council
and
then
standard
conditions
that
we
have
many
projects.
So
I,
don't
know.
B
Go
ahead
and
admit
that
I
have
not
looked
at
these
before
today,
but
that
they
know
they
sound
reasonable
and
consistent
with
what
we've
done
before
so
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
a
problem
with
them.
It
does
sound
like
we
have
a
conversation
to
have
either
today
or
in
the
coming
meeting
about
responsibility
for
those
transportation
mitigations,
which
is
of
course
tricky
because
they're
not
fully
baked.
Yet
we
don't
totally
know
what's
happening,
so
I
will
have
to
get
that
settled
today
or
in
a
couple
weeks.
B
So
if
we're
gonna
do
this
preliminary
approval
and
then
the
bigger
issue
is
that
of
course,
we'd
have
to
talk
through.
You
know
this
with
the
full
board,
but
I
don't
necessarily
see
any
any
difficulties
there.
But
you
know
it's
always
hard
to
predict,
might
be
we're
checking
in
with
the
project
team
to
see
if
there's
any
of
these
conditions,
difficult
or
or
potentially
problematic,
from
your
guys
perspective,
and
then
maybe
maybe
go
around
the
board
here
and
see
what
people
work.
C
N
With
my
way,
through
this
morning
of
these,
absolutely
none
of
them
are
surprised.
These
are
all
things
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
weeks
and
months,
I
guess
years
now,
so
so
none
of
them
are
things
that
strike
us
as
as
unusual
or
add
left
field.
Yes,
is
there
anything
that
you
want
to
say
specifically
about
any
of
those
conditions?
No.
B
Just
talk
to
you
all,
muted,
all
right
that
seems
positive
might
be
we're
checking
in
just
the
board
members
who
are
on
this
call
see
if
there's
anything
either
on
this
list.
That
seems
seemed
worth
diving
into
now
or
they're
things.
Perhaps
that
should
be
added
to
this
list
or
any
questions
you
wanted
to
kick
at
the
project
team
just
to
make
sure
we
get
them
answered
before
this
next
meeting,
where
we're
potentially
voting
on
preliminary
approval
for
a
phase,
Mitch
I
saw
you
on
mute.
I'll
pick
on
you.
E
B
C
Yeah
the
list
looks
fine,
I
feel
comfortable
going
forward
with
the
criminal
foresight
plan.
I
think
maybe
phasing
of
the
landscaping
would
still
be
a
conversation
to
make
sure
that
the
landscaping
is
front-loaded
as
much
as
possible.
I
know:
we've
talked
about
that.
We've
brought
it
up
before
in
spite
of
the
d-o-t
approvals
and
everything
being
backlog,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
still
that
elevation
on
building
B,
the
motel
to
the
north
or
the
West
elevation,
just
the
back.
C
N
We
actually
were
able
to
find
a
better
solution
who
you
are
yeah
yeah.
We
were
Kayla
and
and
and
the
past
row
team
we're
really
working
on
I'm,
keeping
the
sidewalks
and
figuring
out
how
much
room
we
have
and
and
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
reconfiguration.
So
there's
enough
room
to
have
a
five
foot
sidewalk
and
a
3
foot
planting
strip.
Okay,
so.
C
N
So
we're
looking
at
if
we
could
handle
that
facade
the
way
the
State
Street
side
of
the
city
center
building
is
being
handled
so
an
inground
planting
bed.
You
know,
that's
gonna,
be
three
feet
wide,
that
that
will
have
you
know:
kind
of
a
changing
texture
of
plants
and
vines
at
different
levels
and
Heights
to
kind
of
give
that
whole
wall.
Some
interest
sounds
like
a
great
solution.
Yeah
I'm,
very,
very
happy
that
that
the
password
team
was
able
to
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work
and.
I
I
Okay,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
close-up,
but
if
we
look
at
the
zoomed
out
version,
can
everybody
see
my
screen?
Okay
great?
So
these
are
like
likes.
Cotton
Eumelus.
That
kind
of
the
rough
images
of
the
ideas
that
we're
thinking
about
including
vines
and
then
the
planting
strip
along
the
base
of
the
building.
N
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
you
know
full
Street
trees
at
street
tree
size
here,
but
we
can
do
some
fairly
diminutive
trees.
Like
you
know,
you
know,
standard
lilacs
that
are
kind
of
made
to
look
a
little
bit
more
like
trees.
Even
like
this.
If
you
wanted
to
have
more
of
you
know,
we've
been
putting
a
lot
of
edibles
all
over
the
property.
This
would
be
a
great
wall
to
have
you
know
some
dwarf
fruit
trees
with
that
dark
brick
wall
there.
N
You
know
we
could
probably
even
grow
peaches
on
here
if
you
felt
like
it
so
so,
we've
got
things
like
that.
We've
got
a
list
of
kind
of
different
binding
things
that
would
climb
up
the
wall
so
that
there's
a
changing
texture
of
maybe
these
very
small
trees
and
then
vines
and
then
lots
of
perennials
and
maybe
some
shrubs
and
I.
Think.
If
we
can
kind
of
create
a
nice
rhythm
along
that
wall
it
would.
It
would
certainly
break
up
that
long
expansive.
B
C
B
A
B
N
N
M
N
A
N
K
H
N
Just
to
prepare
the
planning
board
part
of
the
Bo
T's
responses,
they
wanted
to
see
a
much
more
minimal
planting.
They
wanted
to
have
a
much
wider
space
for
snow
storage
and
they
were
concerned
with
with
plantings,
encroaching
too
much
on
what
will
be
the
proposed
sidewalk.
So
so,
we've
pulled
everything
back,
have
a
fairly
wide
kind
of
grass
strip
along
along
13
to
take
care
of
snow
store
to
be
exact,
and
then
we
pulled
back
things
a
bit
and
kind
of
scaled,
a
few
things
down
along
the
sidewalk
edge.
B
Will
say
that
doesn't
sound
like
the
direction
the
Planning
Board
was
pushing
and
I
would
expect
to
hear
some
pushback
on
that
in
a
couple
weeks,
any
other
things
that
we
should
make
sure
and
go
through
today.
It
sounds
to
me
like
we
have
the
potential,
for
you,
know
a
seeker
resolution
and
potentially
a
preliminary
approval.
You
know
in
a
couple
weeks
is
there
anything.
A
B
A
A
For
next
week,
or
for
the
for
the
Planning
Board
meeting
getting
through
the
environmental
determination
and
then
what
does
the
board
want
to?
Does
the
board
want
to
go
into
any
detail
of
these
things
that
we're
talking
about,
or
do
they
want
to
do
or
do
they
want
to
put
that
off
for
different
phases?
Personally,.
B
A
C
B
A
H
A
D
Sure
let
me
just
preface
that
by
saying,
okay,
I'm
muting,
my
YouTube
site,
so
David
Herrick
here-
is
leading
the
entitlements
process.
But
my
name
is
Kate
Chesbro
I'm
here
from
woodham
planning
and
design
for
the
landscape,
architects
for
the
project
and
we're
supporting
the
entitlements
that
David
is
leading.
M
M
So
yes,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
this
morning
very
similar
to
your
your
prior
discussion
regarding
carpenter
circle.
Looking
for
an
egg
deck
in
April,
our
phase,
one
project
for
the
entire
development
for
both
the
city,
harbor
mixed-use
buildings
and
the
Guthrie
medical
office
building
would
also
be
a
wonderful
step
if
it's
doable
time
permitting.
So
we
would
be
hoping
to
again
conclude
the
seeker
and
move
into
the
the
fun
details
of
preliminary
site
plan.
Approval.
B
Well,
that
does
seem
possible
now.
Do
I
recall
correctly
that
the
Maine
outstanding
item
on
seeker
was
the
transportation
issue
and
I
assume
that
the
situation
is
same
as
in
the
last
project,
in
which
the
transportation
issue
is
not
fully
resolved,
but
we're
gonna
move
forward
as
best
we
can
any
way
that.
M
Is
correct
and
as
part
of
that
process,
we
understand
that,
as
highlighted
in
in
the
preliminary
list
of
conditions
that
will
probably
be
taking
a
look
at
from
Lisa,
you
have
to
work
out
the
understanding
of
the
costs
of
the
transportation
mitigation,
specifically
for
this
project.
At
the
willow
day,
13
intersection.
B
D
Changes
but
they
are
new
renderings,
so
we've
been
very
involved
with
seeker
for
the
past
couple
months.
Thought
we'd
share
some
of
the
rendering
progress
that's
been
made.
I'll
share
first,
a
few
that
you've
seen
everyone
can
see
my
screen
yes,
so
this
is
a
view
of
the
city,
Harbor
Point
building
that
shows
the
point
West
and
point
East
buildings
they're
connected
by
a
breezeway,
that's
over
the
sewer
easement
from
which
we're
going
to
be
getting
effluent,
energy,
which
is
a
pretty
exciting
sustainability,
move.
That's
they're,
doing
they're
going
to
be
heating.
D
The
project
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
technicalities
of
that,
but
it's
a
really
compelling
part
of
the
project.
But
this
view
is
looking
at
the
point:
west
and
east.
We
have
this
1600
foot,
promenade,
that's
coming
in
front
of
the
buildings
and
a
large
beautiful,
plaza,
we're
working
on
a
rendering.
Now,
that's
gonna
be
more
of
a
I
level
view
of
the
steps
and
showing
where
there
will
be
a
like
a
restaurant
seating
here.
D
Here's
a
view
from
from
the
water
looking
toward
that
restaurants
eating
this
I
believe
you've
seen
moving
a
little
more
quickly,
just
another
view
of
the
point.
East
building
in
particular
we're
working
on
another
rendering
now
that'll
be
a
pedestrian
view
from
the
promenade.
So
you
can
see
the
vertical
relationships
between
the
water,
the
promenade,
the
plantings.
These
plantings
actually
are
at
grade
there.
There
won't
be
this
planter
feature
so
and
then
on
your
right
side
as
you're
facing
toward
the
point
West,
there's
plantings
and
these
patios
and
the
buildings.
D
This
is
a
view,
a
new
view
that
hasn't
been
shared.
Yet
that's
of
the
north
side
of
the
city
harbor
building.
So
this
is
that
drop-off.
This
is
right
where
the
project
boundary
line
interfaces
with
the
city
property.
So
this
is
this
arrival
court
and
it
shows
the
north
side
of
this
building
I'm
just
going
to
keep
moving
quickly
through
these.
D
The
next
few
are
more
rough
drafts
than
these
they're
still
in
process,
so
just
please
know
that
we're
still
working
with
the
rendering
company,
but
we
wanted
to
show
the
full
length
of
the
promenade
that
that
green
spine
on
the
building
on
the
project
and
how
its
interfacing,
with
the
waterfront
trail
these
this
shows
more
of
an
isometric
view
of
the
relationship
between
city
harbour,
which
is
over
here
and
the
Guthrie
building,
which
is
here
showing
the
robust
plantings
that
are
screening.
The
parking
from
Willow
have
the
extensive
plantings
in
the
parking
areas
themselves.
D
D
We're
gonna
have
a
view
of
this
Terrace
part
that
again
is
more
of
an
eye
level,
so
you
can
see
how
there's
a
connection
between
the
water
this
Park,
and
this
is
where
the
bus
stop
is
for
the
building
or
for
this
side
of
the
project.
So
this
is
helpful,
but
it's
still
in
process
likewise
with
the
next
few.
This
is
really
similar
to
what
you've
seen
before,
but
our
aim
with
this
new
rendering
is
going
to
be
more
of
a
view
of
the
of
the
waterfront
trail.
D
So
you
can
see
more
of
this,
so
you
can
see
our
plantings
and
the
monument
sign
and
how
we're
screening
that
view
from
well-
and
this
was
very
much
in
process,
but
we
really
wanted
to
celebrate
the
the
scale
of
Meadow
Park.
In
particular,
it's
a
really
pretty
big
public
open
space
still
working
on
this,
but
just
wanted
to
share
our
progress
of
those,
and
the
next
few,
like
I
said,
are
a
little
rougher
moving
really
slowly.
D
D
D
A
D
M
A
Would
be
good,
I
did
also
have
one
question
about
they're
incredibly
helpful.
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
that.
First
picture
you
showed
visualization
showed
that
was
like
a
bird's-eye
view
of
the
whole
project
and
in
in
The
Seeker.
One
of
the
things
is
that
you're
gonna
that
that
parking
lot,
where
the
point
West
building
is
going
to
be.
Can
you
point
to
that?
So
that
is
supposed
to
be
not
developed
in
phase
one
right.
A
M
M
A
M
E
B
C
M
B
M
So
there's
details
of
mitigations
section:
this
is
on
page
16,
there's
a
the
second
paragraph
here
it
identifies
the
project,
will
locate
up
to
208.
New
homes
were
actually
in
total,
with
phase
one
and
Phase
two.
It's
a
hundred
and
fifty
six
so
I
think
it's
just
worth
changing
the
208
to
156
I
expected
that
208
came
from
a
much
earlier
count
that
may
have
been
estimated
by
the
traffic
consultant.
M
A
B
A
B
Yes,
so
I
think
that
the
the
neck
deck
is
gonna,
be
pretty
easy,
I
feel
like
we've,
just
read
it
and
read
it
and
read
it.
The
only
thing
we
were
waiting
for
is:
do
tea
and
now
we're
gonna
punt
on
do
tea
and
that's
fine
I
think
that
the
preliminary
approval
is
just
a
bit
trickier
simply
because
we
haven't
been
an
approval
headspace
on
this
project.
B
I
feel
like
in
a
long
time
and
to
that
end,
looking
at
these
conditions
and
making
sure
that
there's
not
things
that
are
tricky
or
sticking
for
you
guys
and
then
we'll
just
go
around
here
and
ask
the
board
members.
If
there's
anything
else,
they
want
to
make
sure
they
see
this
next
meeting
to
make
sure
that
this
is
smooth.
But
do
you
guys
have
any
issues
with
any
of
the
conditions
presented
so
far?
No.
M
B
All
right
great,
so
that
makes
that
super
easy
I
do
want
to
check
in
with
the
board
members
who
are
on
this
call
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
things
that
we
feel
like
we're
missing
that
make
preliminary
approval
next
couple
weeks,
difficult
so
Mitch,
Elizabeth
Emily.
Any
of
you
have
things
that
you
want
to
see
in
the
next
meeting.
Now
would
be
a
good
time
to
bring
that
up.
G
Maybe
a
little
bit
more
I,
don't
know
you
know
the
material,
the
details
of
the
park
elements.
Okay,
you
know
hoping
those
might
be
a
little
bit
more
colorful,
not
your
standard
picnic
bench,
sad,
BBQ
kind
of
thing.
You
know
yeah
something
because
because
the
rest
of
the
project
is
so
fantastic
and
beautifully
thought
through
that
I
just
wouldn't
want
that
leftover
landscape
just
to
be
like.
Okay,
let's
throw
in
the
typical
generic
stuff
yeah.
G
D
K
B
Alright,
that
might
be
it
for
today
there's
a
lot
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
project
in
the
next
meeting
and
because
we
are
trying
to
do
a
lot
at
one
time.
You
know
who
knows
how
it'll
go,
but
I'm
hoping
it's
super
smooth
I
feel
like
we
spent
a
ton
of
time
reviewing
this
project,
and
hopefully
this
last
little
push
is
easy
enough
for
everyone
and
we.
A
Often
for
the
for
their
first
meeting,
I,
don't
schedule
them
for
project
review
committee,
because
the
full
board
hasn't
seen
it
yet
or
you
know
so,
I
didn't
student.
We
don't
have
really
any
work
to
do
yet.
It's
more
of
like
a
presentation.
You
will
see
that
they
have
revised
it
back
to
sort
of
the
original
project.
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
K
A
B
G
A
Well,
Habad
house
will
get
through
the
public
hearing
and
I'll
draft
the
part
three
and
see
if
we
can
what
we
need
to
finish
up
with
that
Astari
I'm,
going
through
all
the
new
drawings
that
they
submitted
and
so
I
can
have
a
draft
part
three
ready
at
least
so.
We
can
see
what's
missing,
some
of
it,
gonna
be
beyond
their
control
like
stuff
that
the
city
has
to
figure
out
like
what
how
we're
gonna
accommodate
the
parking.
While
the
parking
garages
are
I've,
Commission.
G
A
I,
wouldn't
call
it
exactly
full
speed
ahead.
They
did
discuss
it
because
they
had
just
taken
the
vote
before
all
of
this
happened
and
they
did
discuss
it
and
get
additional
commitments
and
decide
to
move
forward
with
them.
So
I
wouldn't
exactly
say
you
know
they
certainly
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
it
and
debating
it,
but
ultimately
felt
like
you
know.
A
This
was
gonna,
be
important
for
our
cup
recovery,
actually
so
having
something
different
in
new
downtown
I'll
make
sure
Joanne
gives
you
an
update
on
that
at
the
Planning
Board
meeting
and
then
120
Greene
Street
I'll
put
them
together.
Always
it's
the
you
know
we'll
do
it?
That's
Geoffrey's
project
he'll
do
a
presentation.
We
can
do
declaration
of
lead
agency
and
started
with
the
part
two
time
permitting
so.
B
G
G
A
B
That's
nice
to
hear
so
that
might
do
it
for
agenda
review.
Lisa!
You
and
I
should
talk
offline
about
how
you
want
to
handle
recusal
for
that
last
project,
yeah
and
weather
yeah,
just
sort
of
what
what
we
want
to
do
and
then
I
don't
know
that.
There's
anything
else
that
we
have
to
go
over
as
a
group
today.