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B
D
Good
morning,
yes,
I
am
waiting
for
mark
and
or
mike
to
join
us.
Okay.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I'll
let
mark
present
the
project.
Okay,.
A
Whenever
you're
ready,
you
could
do
introductions
and
then
you're
you're
ready
to
share
your
screen
whenever.
D
Okay,
my
name
is
tammy
aiken,
I'm
the
project
manager
with
cornell
facilities,
facilities
and
campus
services.
I
am
working
on.
I've
been
working
on
the
dwyer
dam
rehabilitation
project
for
the
last
three
years
went
through
a
big
concept,
study
phase,
where
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
options
in
to
replace
the
bridge
or
reconstruct
the
bridge,
and
then
we
settled
on
a
bridge
replacement
project
that
utilizes
the
existing
substructure
of
the
existing
girders
and
abutments,
but
replaces
the
superstructure
we've
been
working
with.
D
We
contracted
with
public
engineering
about
a
year
ago
and
started
developing
the
schematic,
design
and
dd
phase
drawings.
I
think
what
you
guys
have
seen
is
at
the
dd
level,
and
you
know
we're
working
to
move
forward
into
construction
documents.
D
D
During
construction,
the
project
will
utilize
a
pedestrian
detour,
and
so
you
might
have
seen
that
on
the
drawings
of
pedestrian
bypass
route,
that
was
pretty
imperative
for
the
university
to
maintain
the
pedestrian
route.
Given
the
density
of
population
near
the
maple
ave
area
with
with
community
housing-
and
you
know,
high
density
of
both
staff
and
students
taking
that
route
into
campus,
all
other
traffic
will
be
detoured.
D
The
the
plans
did
include
a
detour,
a
detour
plan
and
we'll
just
have
to
reassess
at
the
time
of
construction
whether
that
plan
still
makes
sense
it
will.
It
will
most
likely
happen
with
reed
reed's
office
transportation's
office,
coordinating
with
the
rest
of
the
community
just
to
make
sure
no
other
construction
projects
are
implicating
our
route
or
we're
incl,
implementing
or.
D
Somehow
affecting
their
routes
so
at
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mark
and
mike
mark
it
looks
like
you
are
muted.
D
A
A
I
will,
I
will
kick
you
out
of,
let
me
see.
F
D
Yes,
sometimes
mark
in
the
zoom,
for
whatever
in
the
zoom
window,
your
controls
disappear
unless
your
cursor
flashes
over
the
top,
at
least
they
do
on
my
computer.
A
E
B
E
C
I
think
if
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
show
us
on
a
screen,
now
is
the
time,
and
I
think,
if
you
don't
want
to
do
that,
then
we
can
move
into
questions.
E
Okay,
I
could
just
move
through
real,
quick,
maybe
I'll
flip
through
the
drawings
we
had
in
the
application,
I'll
just
kind
of
end
pictures,
and
maybe
just
give
you
a
little
narrative,
quick,
more
specific
to
the
bridge,
probably
than
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
tammy
was
talking
about.
So
I
gotta
share
my
screen.
E
E
E
Okay,
this
is
just
a
shot
of
what
the
the
underside
looks
like
the
abutments
that
support
the
bridge
they're
founded
on
bedrock.
Those
have
been
a
source
of
trouble
in
recent
years.
The
last
maybe
10,
20
years
they've
been
a
problem.
There
was
some
rehabilitation
work
done
a
while
back
and
rock
anchors
were
installed
in
new
concrete
and
the
previous
problems
have
been
resolved.
E
As
far
as
everybody
knows,
so
the
scope
of
our
work
really
does
not
include
work
to
the
foundations
other
than
just
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
accommodate
the
superstructure
work
that
we're
doing
the
shot
there.
The
bridge
framing
the
bridge,
has
two
main
girders
that
are
riveted,
girders,
they're,
quite
old.
I
can't
remember
the
date
right
now,
but
they
were
repurposed
when
this
bridge
was
built,
we
believe
they
came
from
a
railroad
bridge
and
the
structure.
The
main
girders
have
remained
pretty
much
unchanged
over
the
years.
E
There
have
been
some
modifications,
as
the
utilities
have
been
added,
but
for
the
most
part
they
have
carried
the
load
and
they
are
because
they
were
railroad
girders.
There
have
significant
excess
capacity,
which
has
worked
out
really
well
for
the
bridge,
and
the
bridge
has
been
widened
over
the
years.
It
used
to
be
narrower
and
it
was
widened
a
while
back
many
years
ago
and
then
subsequently,
just
the
work
that's
been
done.
Up
top
has
been
maintaining
the
existing
geometry
and
just
replacing
sidewalk
panels,
and
things
like
that.
E
E
These
are
deteriorating
in
areas
where
they're,
starting
to
become
a
real
structural
problem
and
they've
been
flagged
in
dot
inspections
and
to
get
at
those
we
pretty
much
have
to
remove
the
deck.
So
the
scope
of
the
work
pretty
much
starts
at
the
top
of
the
floor
beams
and
goes
up
for
the
most
part.
That's
the
core
of
the
project
and
we're
going
to
try
to
make
the
bridge
deck
and
sidewalks
more
watertight
than
it
is
now.
That's
that's
the
ultimate
goal
too.
E
E
We
will
be
replacing
the
bridge
bearings
that
support
the
girders
and
then
up
top
a
scope.
Addition
that
occurred
throughout
during
this
design
process
has
been.
This
stair
is,
is
in
rough
shape
at
this
point
at
the
northwest
quadrant,
and
we
intend
to
replace
that
as
part
of
the
project
with
a
precast
stair
system,
similar
to
what's
been
done
in
other
areas
of
the
campus
down
by
the
fall
creek
suspension
bridge
is
the
one
we're
really
kind
of
paying
attention
to
as
far
as
an
example
of
what
we
want
to
do,.
E
Yep
and
I'm
just
going
to
flip
down
to
the
drawings,
quick,
there's
our
detour
route,
so
there's
our
bridge,
we're
thinking
of
taking
people
down,
dryden
road
to
judd,
falls
road
and
then
campus
road
across
to
the
other
side
and
as
tammy
said,
you
know
that
all
depends
on
what's
going
on
on
campus
at
the
time,
if
there's
any
other
projects
that
are
happening.
I
know
campus
road
sometimes
has
been
closed.
I
think
in
the
past,
so
we
have
to
be
aware
of.
E
What's
going
on
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
we
felt
the
detour
was
a
little
long
for
the
pedestrians.
So
we
put
in
a
pedestrian
bridge
temporarily
adjacent
to
the
structure.
That's
going
to
rely
on
one
of
the
one
of
the.
I
guess
we'll
call
them
peers
that
come
off
of
the
dam.
E
That's
underneath
the
actual
dwyer
dam,
there's
some
protruding
piers
that
would
hold
like
flashboards
to
increase
the
water
level
behind
the
dam
and
there
used
to
be
a
pedestrian
access
bridge
over
the
top
of
that
to
access
the
dam
for
maintenance
and
that's
been
since
removed.
But
we
want
to
utilize
one
of
those
supports
to
temporarily
support
a
temporary
pedestrian
bridge
which
will
maintain
pedestrian
traffic
and
also
bicyclists
if
they
walk
their
bikes
across.
E
I
think
and
tammy
you
might
want
to
provide
some
input
on
this.
I
don't
know
if
you're.
E
D
Yeah
I'd
like
to
just
add
that
we've
been
working
pretty
closely
with
david
cutter,
the
university
landscape,
architect
and
todd
bittner,
the
plantations
natural
areas
director
to
ensure
that
we
protect
existing
trees
from
damage
and
properly
prune,
the
ones
that
do
need
to
be
pruned
or
removed
ones
that
they
don't
mind
us.
Removing
we're
also
taking
care
of
the
the
environment
by
using
I'm
not
sure
how
to
describe
it,
but
sort
of
a
minimalist
approach.
D
Footprint
to
supporting
the
brit,
the
pedestrian
bridge
structure,
so
we're
not
building,
for
example,
a
concrete
stone,
pier
or
anything
like
that.
We're
going
to
be
putting
in
mark.
Maybe
you
can
describe
it
better,
just
something
with
a
smaller
footprint,
smaller
equipment
to
get
in
there
and
get
back
out,
put
the
put
the
units
in
and
then
remove
them,
and
then,
of
course,
we're
working
with
them
on
the
restoration
plan.
D
So
so
we're
going
to
be
using
most
likely
some
more
native
species
that
are
that
are
conducive
to
the
properties
of
that
area.
E
Yep
yeah,
so
as
far
as
the
construction
of
the
bridge,
that
tammy
mentioned
is
one
of
the
ideas
using
the
existing
dam
is
the
support
for
the
bridge.
It
allows
us
to
have
two
spans
that
are
relatively
shorter
instead
of
trying
to
clear
span
the
whole
thing
and
that
that
reduces
the
size
of
crane
necessary
to
place
the
bridge,
so
the
other
alternative
will
be
clear
span
that
we
need
a
very
large
crane
and
we
have
to
clear
a
number
of
trees
provide
some
abutments
and
you
know
be
very
difficult
to
place.
E
It's
a
high
cost
and
higher
impact
to
the
area.
This
way,
the
the
bridge
panels
can
actually
be
set
from
the
bridge
itself.
You
know
with
a
small
truck
crane
and
the
supports
that
would
bear
on
the
existing
slopes
or
just
above.
The
slopes
would
be
similar
to
like
just
timber
posts
is
what
we're
envisioning
similar
to
like
a
deck
or
something
like
that.
What
we
call
vents,
pile
vents
they
would
be
placed
on
the
rock.
E
You
know,
probably
in
a
in
a
drilled
hole
or
something
like
that,
and
we
envisioned
those
being
erected
and
placed
from
the
roadway
as
well,
so
we
wouldn't
be
driving
equipment
onto
onto
the
slopes
to
do
that.
Work
there's
another
drawing
a
little
bit
later.
Actually
this
one
right
here,
so
this
is
showing
these
bents
here
actually
make
things
bigger,
be
easier
to
see.
So
we
have
some
bents
and
those
will
be
bearing-
and
this
looks
very
steep,
but
that's
an
exaggerated
slope
because
of
the
profile
is
exaggerated
by
a
factor
of
five.
E
I
believe-
and
that's
really
it
I
mean
for
the
maintenance
projection
of
traffic.
There's
the
support
column
that
we
are
going
to
cantilever
a
little
bit
out
with
the
support
to
get
it
further
away
from
the
bridge
to
provide
some
construction
room.
A
And
I
have
a
question
said:
okay,
rob
yeah
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
of
time,
but
I
you
are
putting
means
restriction
on
the
bridge
too
correct.
Yeah.
Do
you
have
a
drawing
of
that?
I
think
see.
Okay,
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
show
it
now,
but
we
will
need
sort
of
a
visualization
because
it
is
in
a
unique
natural
area.
So
just
so
the
board
knows,
but.
C
So
I
think,
there's
a
lot
here
that
you
know
to
be
happy
about.
Well,
I
think
you
know
obviously
infrastructure
work.
That's
needed
is
always
good
to
see,
see
being
taken
on
appreciate
that
you've
thought
a
lot
about
traffic
mitigation
and
pedestrian
throughput
and
mitigating
the
impacts
of
this
construction
timeline
really
appreciate
that
you're
trying
to
preserve
the
trees
and
trying
to
do
this
construction
in
a
sensitive
way
as
possible.
C
I
looked
through
the
drawings
and
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
it
wasn't
obvious
to
me
sort
of
before
and
after
sort
of
clear
view
of
the
aesthetic
impact
of
the
project.
I
think
at
some
point
we'll
want
to
see
that
maybe
it's
in
there
and
I
just
missed
it,
but
some
sort
of
visualization
of
that,
unless
things
just
aren't
changing
and
it's
going
to
look
like
it
looks
now.
You
know
some
sort
of
something.
C
Yeah
that
worked
and
that
that's,
maybe
all
the
feedback
I
have
it
looks
like
a
good
project.
I
hope
it's
all
smooth
mitch
did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
add
to
that.
H
Yeah
good
project-
thank
you.
You
know
much
needed,
make
sure,
take
care
of
infrastructure,
safety
and
pedestrian
access.
My
questions
are
about
the
design
and
you
know
rob
you
sort
of
touched
on
it,
but
I
noticed
there
are
two
different
treatments
on
either
side
of
the
bridge:
one
you're
replacing
a
vertical
railing
with
a
horizontal
railing
and
the
other
side
here
it
looks
like
you've
got
a
concrete
parapet,
a
solid,
concrete
parapet.
So
I'm
you
know
interested
to
see.
You
know
why
you
picked
that
and
what
the
the
visual
impacts
of
that
are.
H
You
know
if
you're
not
able
to
see
the
gorge
like
you
do
now
in
a
kind
of
a
nice
way.
You
don't
have
to
answer
these
questions
now.
Just
for
the
you
know
the
meeting,
perhaps
the
other
thing
is
the
the
raised
curb
that
protects
pedestrians.
Now
it
looks
like
it's.
H
Eight
12
inches
high
is
being
replaced
with
a
flush
granite,
curb
interested
to
know
that
the
reasons
for
that,
and
if
there
are
any
safety
issues
behind
that
wondering
about
lighting
if
you're
incorporating
lighting
into
the
parapet
and
the
and
the
other
side,
the
metal
railing
side.
H
A
I
don't
have
anything
else.
We
have
scheduled
this
month,
a
determination,
I'm
sorry
declaration
of
lead
agency
and
a
public
hearing
so
they'll
give
a
brief
presentation
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
and
the
board
can
declare
lead
agency
and
then
we'll
do
a
public
hearing.
C
A
All
right,
I
see
sarah
spencer
here
who's
going
to
be
representing
the
applicant
for
the
subdivision.
B
B
C
All
right
take
it
away,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
what
we're
seeing.
I
Okay,
well,
my
name
is
sarah
spencer,
I'm
from
harris
beach
on
behalf
of
mr
llc
and
I
think,
you're
all
pretty
familiar
with
this
site,
and
I
know
that
we
submitted
a
subdivision
application
pretty
similar
to
this
one
back
in
the
fall
that
ended
up
being
tabled,
and
so
this
is
essentially
the
same
submission,
except
for
we
revised
the
location
of
the
trail
easements,
and
I
think
those
have
been
agreed
upon
previously
and
they're
reflected
on
the
new
subdivision
maps.
I
Now
and
essentially
this
project
is
a
96
acre
parcel
currently
and
we're
proposing
to
subdivide
it
so
that
about
0.9
acres
remains
with
emerson,
15,
llc
and
then
about
95
acres
will
be
sold
for
mixed
use
development
and
the
purpose
of
retaining
that
less
than
one
acre
parcel
is
to
further
remediate
that
site
and
return
it
to
a
useful
state
and
that's
basically
the
gist
of
the
project.
I
I
know
there's
been
years
of
other
environmental
studies
on
the
site
and
I
think
there
were
some
findings
that
were
adopted
in
march
of
this
of
last
year,
and
so
I
think
then
that's
for
the
the
new
development.
But
this
is
just
simply
the
subdivision
that
would
allow
emerson
to
continue
remediating
the
site.
The
smaller
parcel.
C
All
right,
so
I
always
lean
on
staff
and
counsel
if
it's
available
to
know
what
I'm
doing
when
I
touch
chain
works,
but
is
there
anything
to
worry
about
here?
This
seems
straightforward.
A
Right,
I
mean
the
reason
it
has
taken
a
while
is
because
of
the
negotiation
of
the
trail
easements.
As
you
will
recall,
from
the
when
you
went
through
project
approval,
there's
a
there's
a
whole.
A
trail
proposed
to
go
through
the
entire
site
and
it
will
connect
basically
south
hill
to
buttermilk
falls
and
the
black
diamond
trail.
A
It's
huge,
and
you
know
it
just-
took
a
while
to
negotiate
the
easements
for
the
trail
and
on
really
the
thing
that
took
a
while
to
negotiate
was
the
alternative
easements
for
when
the
a
portion
of
the
trail
has
to
be
shut
down.
So
the
the
portion
that's
going
to
be
retained
by
emerson
for
remediation
will
have
to
be
shut
down.
A
Occasionally
when
they're
doing
remediation
work
and
then
the
portion,
the
other
portion
on
you
know
their
chain
work
site
that
will
be
retained
and
developed
may
have
to
be
shut
down
for
construction.
I
mean
we
should
be
so
lucky
that
we're
going
to
have
a
trail
to
shut
down
at
some
point,
but
having
these
easements
means
that
when
we
have
the
money
and
political
will,
we
can
go
ahead
and
build
this
trail.
And
it's
a
huge
huge
we've
been
working
on
this
for
years.
A
C
B
E
C
So
I
think
it'll
be
smooth.
Just
what
I
said
to
the
last
project
is
that
public
hearings
in
this
particular
time
period
have
been.
You
know
pretty
smooth,
and
I
would
expect
that
to
be
true
here
as
well,
and
I
don't
see
any
difficulty
in
preliminary
and
final
on
this
project
or
on
this
subdivision.
A
Not
we
don't
have
to,
we
don't
have
to
do
an
environmental
review
because
it
was
already
done.
There
was
an
eis
done
for
the
project
and
it
included
this
subdivision.
A
There
isn't
there
is
a.
There
is
a
diagram
from
a
powerpoint
presentation
that
shows
all
the
interconnecting
trails
I
will.
I
will
send
that
or
I
will
put
that
into
the
mailing.
Thank.
H
H
H
What's
the
action
here,
what
you
got
the
environmental
significance,
bza.
J
Yes,
hello,
everyone.
I
was
in
front
of
the
planning
board,
as
everyone
probably
knows,
on
the
meeting
on
the
28th
of
july.
Since
then
there
was
just
a
few
minor.
I
believe
we
opened
the
public
hearing
closed
the
public
hearing.
I
believe
there
was
two
I
consider
minor
issues
at
this
point,
one
being
the
signage
which
I
believe
megan
is
going
to
review
to
make
sure
I
comply
within
the
required
zoning
ordinance,
which
I
believe
at
this
time
I
do.
If
I
don't,
I
can
adjust
my
sign.
J
However,
the
city
or
the
planning
board
wants
that's,
not
a
big
deal
and
the
other
one
was
the
trees.
I
have
been
in
contact
with
the
city
forester
jean
grace.
She
sent
me
a
nice
email
yesterday.
I
believe
in
regards
to
tree
selection.
I
think
we
have
that
wrapped
up
and
she
wants
to
move
a
few
trees,
a
couple
feet
here
and
there
for
snow
storage
purposes.
J
My
engineers
already
basically
done
it,
so
I
will
have
that
plan
done.
Probably
by
the
end
of
today.
I
will
give
that
back
to
lisa
and
I'll
directly,
send
it
to
jean
so
incorporating
every
everyone.
Everything
that
she
mentioned
to
me,
there's
not
a
problem
with
it's.
A
very
simple
fix
are
the
pairs.
J
J
Yes,
the
pairs
are
going
to
be
gone.
She
wanted.
H
H
J
H
H
J
So
again,
whatever
you
guys
tell
me
that's,
why
tell
me
what
to
do
I'll,
we'll
spec
it
and
we'll
put
it
on
there,
so
we're
gonna
again
those
changes
have
already
been
made.
I
should
be
able
to
wrap
that
up
today
and
send
those
over
one
thing
I
did
want
to
address
with
this
committee.
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
place
is
originally.
We
thought
we
needed
some
variances
for
front
yard
and
parking,
but
it's
after
further
review
by
the
planning.
At
least
I
can
get
into
this.
J
That
was
deemed
that
I
did
not
need
those,
so
I
thought
I
was
gonna
have
to
go
in
front
of
the
zoning
board
on
september
1st
25th
planning
board
for
recommendation
to
this
bca
board
and
then
to
my
final
in
september.
That
does
not
have
to
be
done
now.
So
these
last
two
items
I
have.
I
do
not
have
to
go
for
recommendation
now.
I
just
have
to
come
back
for
planning
for
a
final.
J
J
So
I
was
hoping
that,
since
I
don't
have
to
do
this
bza
that
on
august
25th,
I
could
go
in
front
of
the
planning
board
for
potentially
as
long
as
the
signage
is
wrapped
up
and
the
trees
are
moved
in
accordance,
and
I
have
gene's
blessing
that
I
could
ask
the
board
that
night,
for
you
know
finish
up
seeker
of
course,
which
I
believe
is
pretty
tight.
Then
we
can
wrap
it
up
on
the
august
25th.
I
could
get
final
that
night.
C
I
think
on
the
content,
that's
kind
of
okay.
I
think
that
the
feedback
from
the
board
at
the
last
meeting
was
consistently
positive,
with
the
exception
of
signage
and
trees,
and
those
issues
are
getting
addressed.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
super
worried
about
that.
I
would
check
in
with
lisa
on
procedure,
because
that
is
a
little
bit
different
than
how
we
normally
do
it.
We
don't
normally
do
seeker
and
preliminary
final,
all
in
one
night.
A
Yeah
you're,
not
in
trouble,
I
mean
you,
don't
do
it
partially,
because
a
lot
of
most
of
the
projects
now
are
incredibly
complex
and
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
do
it.
That
way,
there's
no
reason
why
you
can't,
if
you
feel
comfortable
and
of
course,
there's
always
lots
of-
can
be
lots
of
conditions
on
any
final
approval
to
capture
anything.
You
know
it.
I
mean
this
is,
I
think
the
reason
this
you
know
this
is
a
pretty
straightforward
project
which
you're
not
getting
a
lot
of
that
lately.
J
A
I
have
a
few
questions
for
I
have
a
question
for
christian
and
then
a
question
for
the
board.
So
did
you
put
a
fence
around
the
edge
of
the
property?
Yes,
there
is
a
fence
along
the
back
of
it
now,
okay
to
protect
because
it
butts
up
against
residential
development
and
even
though
those
lots
are
very
very
deep
and
the
houses
are
very
many
feet
away,
we
need
the
fencing
to
protect
so,
okay.
J
A
A
A
A
And
then
for
the
board,
you
know
I
did.
I
did
a
part
two
and
I
didn't
see
anything
that
was
a
significant
impact
or
potentially
significant
impact.
So
I
wondered
about
how
you
feel
about
me
preparing
a
part
three,
if
you
think
that's
necessary.
C
Sure,
no,
I
I
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
If
the
part
two
looks
clean
and
yeah,
I
would
stick
the
preliminary
and
prior
and
final
approval
on
the
agenda
as
a
potential
action
and
then,
if
people
are
comfortable,
we'll
we'll
do
it
and
if
people
feel
like
we
need
more
information,
then
we'll
take
another
month,
but
I
mean
I'd
love
to
get
it
done.
I'd
love
to
to
get
this
in
in
the
ground
as
soon
as
possible.
D
C
A
As
I'm
going
through
and
you
know
getting
all
the
paperwork
done
and
figuring
out
the
conditions
christian
I'll
be
in
touch
with
you,
if
there's
anything
else,
I
think
you
need
to
provide
to
the
board
that
I
can
identify.
They
may
have
other
things
that
they
identify.
J
Okay,
I'll
wrap
this
thing
up
and
make
sure
you
have
all
this
new
stuff
here
very,
very
quickly.
K
A
C
A
A
A
G
F
L
A
C
All
right
looks
like
the
gang
is
all
here
if
you
would
just
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
if
anything's
changed
since
the
last
time
we
saw
this
project.
B
Sure,
yes,
good
morning,
members
of
the
zoning
group
and
my
name
is
eric
colbert
and
we're
the
project
architect
for
this
apartment
building
and
essentially,
since
our
last
presentation,
we've
just
been
developing
the
plans
based
on
the
the
drawings
that
we've
given
you
so
essentially
nothing's
from
our
perspective,
has
really
changed
that
I
can
think
of.
Do
you
know
anything
ian
that
would
be
relative
to
that
question.
F
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
two
things
from
a
design
standpoint-
hi
everyone,
ian
hunter,
harnett
realtor,
the
two
things
that
we're
working
on
changing
from
a
design
perspective
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
received
at
the
last
planning
board
meeting
and
from
the
city
engineer
one
was,
I
believe,
elizabeth,
had
a
comment
about
maybe
continuing
a
horizontal
element
along
the
facade
of
the
old
brick
building,
and
so
we
are
working
on
concepts
for
that
and
we'll
plan
to
present
something
there
at
this
month's
planning
board
meeting
and
the
other
design
element
that
I
believe
this
was
a
city
engineer
comment
was
potentially
adding
something
to
prevent
vehicular
traffic
from
using
the
alleyway
on
corn
street
from
accessing
the
parking
garage,
so
we're
adding
some
removable.
F
Bollards
are
gonna
likely
be
the
solution
there
to
make
sure
that
people
aren't
using
that
as
a
vehicular
in
and
out
for
the
project.
So
from
a
design
perspective.
I
think
those
were
the
two
things.
The
other
item
that
I
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head
from
the
city
engineers
comments
was:
he
had
some
concerns
about.
We
had
some
alternates
shown
in
the
site
plan
for
some
kind
of
additional,
curb,
bump
outs
and
how
those
might
affect
traffic.
C
A
Yeah
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
sensitivity
of
the
the
seneca
street
facade
and
interface
with
the
parking
and
pedestrian.
I
remember
that.
F
C
It's
a
garage
entrance
with
the
garage
entrance
to
me
felt
pretty
dominant
to
what's
happening
on
that
facade,
which
is
not
necessarily
what
we
want
in
a
a
street
facade
in
a
downtown
area.
So
taking
a
look
on
how
to
how
to
dress
that
up
and
just
sort
of
going
over
that
facade
with
the
planning
board,
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we
spent
much
of
any
time
on
that.
I
think
that
was
just
in
the
drawings.
C
Although
you
know
for
this
meeting,
you
know
the
agenda
items
are
to
get
through
the
public
hearing
and
a
review
of
your
part,
two,
the
remove
the
part
two
should
be
simple.
I
mean
it'll
say
we.
We
need
to
do
a
part
three
and
then
that's
where
the
meat
of
the
environmental
review
will
come
and
the
following
meeting
and
then
the
public
hearing
you
know
they've
been
sparsely
attended
because
of
zoom,
so
maybe
that'll
be
simple,
maybe
not
since
it's
a
big
project
in
the
middle
of
downtown.
C
I
just
I
don't
know,
but
we'll
want
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
prior
to
the
public.
Hearing.
Very
brief.
You
know
five
minutes
if
possible,
get
through
the
public
hearing
and
then
we'll
check
in
on
sort
of
any
outstanding
issues.
We
want
to
see
any
changes
and
then
I
would
enjoy.
I
would
I
would
like
to
see
this
in
the
street
facade
and
then
there
might
be
other
things
we
want
to
want
to
dig
into
mitch.
H
No,
I
I
think
the
the
design
response
was
favorable
and
I
think
generally,
the
board
appreciates
the
architecture
of
the
building
and
you.
L
H
I
think
the
variance
you're
seeking
is,
you
know.
I
think
we
definitely
support
that.
I
mean
I
personally
feel
that
that's
affordable
and
the
board
should
support
that.
You
know
there
is
a
part
of
the
the
the
thief
part,
two
about
consistency
with
community
character,
proposed
action
may
displace
affordable
or
low-income
housing
in
an
area
where
there's
a
shortage
of
such
housing.
You
know
brought
this
up
before
and
I
I
hope,
there's
you
know
further
conversation
and
maybe
some
modifications
to
that
on
that
topic.
C
Yeah,
I
would
expect
that
to
come
up
again
in
in
the
meeting
and
in
future
meetings.
So
taking
a
look
at
that
and
being
prepared
to
address,
it
would
be
appropriate.
A
And
we,
you
know
there
is
a
new
provision
with
if
you're
getting
tax
abatements
that
you
have
to
prove
you
have
to
make
accommodations
for
either
providing
affordable
housing
or
paying
into
a
fund.
And
so
I
don't
know
where
the
project
team
is
on
tax
abatements
and
that
I
know
you
said
you
were
going
to
address
it.
F
Yeah,
it's
something
that
we're
currently
exploring
and
we'll
expect
to
be
sharing
our
findings
at
some
point,
with
the
board
as
soon
as.
C
C
A
No,
I
think
we
have
you
know
a
project
schedule.
We,
we
mapped
out
a
project
schedule
this
month
and
we're
going
to
do
design
review
next.
We'll
do
a
design
review
next
month.
F
So
a
couple
of
questions
that
we
had
for
the
planning
board,
one
lisa
on
the
part
two
was
there
anything
that
we
needed
to
help
you
with
again.
This
is
personally
my
first
time
going
through
the
process,
so
is.
A
I
think
what
I
mean
one
of
the
or
two
of
the
things
really
are.
You
know,
information
about
foundation,
then
geotech,
and
then
there
is
contamination
around
the
site,
and
so
I
didn't
see
a
phase
one
or
two
esa
or
any
information
about
if
you're
gonna
have
vapor
barriers
or
don't
need
them
because
you're
having
a
parking
garage
or
something
so
yeah,
that's
that
right
at
the
this
particular
moment.
That
is
something
that
I
see
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
I've
already
talked
to
marissa
about
that.
F
A
You
know
I
I
I
diverted
the
board
on
this,
but
it
is
a
pretty
important
part
of
you
know.
There
is
known
contamination,
I
mean,
as
there
is
in
many
places,
and
you
know
in
an
urban
environment,
but
why
don't
you
send
it
to
me
and
I'll?
Give
I'll
give
you
some
guidance
on
that,
but
it
wouldn't
be.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
mention
that
in
your
presentation
personally,
because.
F
A
F
C
F
Okay,
got
it
and
then
the
last
question
that
I
had
has
to
do
with
the
existing
facade
of
the
building
on
the
corner,
and
we
have
been
looking
into
it
both
with
our
structural
engineers
and
pre-construction
contractors,
and
we'll
show
you
a
couple
of
photos
of
some
of
the
conditions
there,
as
we
state
in
our
site
plan
review
application.
F
Our
plan
is
to
continue
to
keep
this
facade
in
the
plans,
but
we
are
hearing
from
our
consultants
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
concern
that
you
know
certain
parts
of
the
facade
may
be
a
little
bit
damaged.
So
we
just
want
to
flag
that
for
the
board,
so
we'll
show
those
images
and
we
can
talk
about
them.
A
F
F
C
F
Sure,
okay!
Well,
we
can.
If
we
want
to
save
these
slides
for
the
actual
public
meeting,
we
can
do
that
or
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
seeing
them
now
we're
happy
to
show
them
yeah.
A
C
C
Then
you
know
we're
not
the
engineers,
we
don't
get
to
decide
that
right,
but
what
we
do
you
know
have
more
voice
in
deciding
is,
is
sort
of
what
gets
approved
aesthetically
and
we
can't
approve
what
we
don't
see.
So
as
we
get
closer,
if
this
seems
like
a
real
possibility
we
have
to,
we
have
to
get
some
visuals
on
what
happens.
If
you
can't
do
what
you
want
to
do.
H
I
mean
real
really
in
the
end,
it
would
come
down
to
an
economic
decision
right
because
anything's
possible-
and
I
you
know
from
my
perspective,
this
project
is
great
one
of
the
reasons
why
it's
great
is
because
you're
maintaining
that
building
on
the
corner
and
preserving
some
of
the
historic
fabric
of
state
street.
You
know
south
of
west
of
downtown.
So
I
would
encourage
the
team
to
really
work
hard
to
save
the
building
and
the
facade,
I'm
concerned
by
this
frankly,
and
I
don't
want
to
see
that
building
go
away.
C
F
I
I
don't
think
that
we
disagree.
We
agree
that
you
know
this
facade
has
a
lot
of
character
and
it's
worth
saving
and
that's
been
the
team's
goal
since
the
outset.
So
I
don't
think
that
has
changed.
C
Okay,
fair
enough,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
through
the
rest
of
these
slides
tonight.
I
think
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
look
at
them
with
the
board
and
yeah
we'll
see
in
a
couple
weeks.
I
hope
that
it's
all
smooth.
I
hope
that
you
come
back
with
news
that
actually
the
foundation
is
strong
as
a
rock
and
there's
no
concern.
C
There
you
go
problem
solved
so
yeah
anything
else,
lisa
or
mitch.
A
Me,
I
don't
have
anything.
F
A
So
I
am
just
going
to
again:
I'm
messaging
the
people
in
the
waiting
room
to
say
that
we're
going
to
do
a
steering
first.
C
A
A
Yeah,
so
I
hope
that
the
asteria
team
is
ready
for
this
change.
G
Morning,
everyone
I
appreciate
the
schedule
update,
so
we
have
a
few
things
to
pull
up
a
moment
here.
G
We
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
north
alley
between
the
asteri
project
and
herald
square
hold
on.
I
just
had
a
remote
server
issue.
G
So
we're
following
up
on
the
north
facade
of
the
building
in
terms
of
lighting.
We
also
have
an
update
on
the
facade
percentages
and
we
have
a
few
thoughts
about
city
hall
plaza,
as
well
as
the
potential
relocation
of
public
art
and
other
murals
on
that
north
alley
side.
G
So
those
were
the
pieces
we
felt
we
would
need
for
seeker,
because
this
month,
as
we've
talked
about
we're
looking
for
a
seeker
action
if
possible-
and
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
we're
looking
forward
to
talking
about-
but
those
are
more
site
plan
issues.
C
G
Great,
so
this
is
an
updated
rendering
that
shows
the
facade
articulation.
This
came
out
a
bit
dark,
but
if
you
can
tell
there
are
two
different
tones
of
the
metal
paneling
with
a
reveal
and
shadow
line
that
will
be
on
this
facade
and
we
did
a
few
placeholders
for
new
public
art.
We
would
let
the
city
take
the
lead
on
any
calls
for
work
there,
but
we're
more
than
open
to
the
idea
of
of
this
facade
being
used
at
the
ground
level
for
permanent
mural
installations.
L
Lisa,
if
I
could
just
interrupt,
I
think
bruce
needs
to
be
let
in
I.
G
So
was
just
zooming
in
to
show
the
we've
gotten.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
this
week
on
our
drawings,
and
this
is
a
the
lighting
there's
an
led
in
this
reveal
that
will
downlight
onto
the
metal
panels
and
there
will
be
this
wall
wash
above
the
facade
niches
facing
facing
the
alley
as
well.
G
So
those
are
some
of
the
massing
related
seeker
items.
H
G
So
we
talked
about
the
percentage
of
stucco
that
was
used
and
we
did
decrease
the
percentage
on
this
north
facade
by
nine
percent.
So
now
we
have
43
of
this
facade
being
that
stucco
material.
G
We
also
changed
at
the
upper
levels
from
a
fiber
cement
to
a
metal
panel.
There
were
some
concerns
about
durability
at
that
elevation
of
the
building.
So
we
feel
that's
a
positive
change
in
terms
of
material
to
have
the
metal
panel
higher
up
on
the
building
and
and
bruce.
K
Here,
yeah
kate,
if
I
can,
if
I
can
clarify
that
the
the
main
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
the
light
gray
areas
on
the
facade
that
you
see
were
previously
designated
as
fiber
cement.
So
the
light
gray
areas
on
the
south
facade
on
the
upper
section
and
then
the
light
gray
areas
on
the
northern
facade
and.
K
Around
the
building,
the
light
gray
was
fiber
cement
and
the
darker
gray
up
above
is
the
synthetic
stucco
and
then
the
fibrous
panel
details
and
installations,
and
all
that
talking
through
the
manufacturers
and
construction
team.
We
just
felt
like
long
term,
we'll
be
better
off
with
a
like
a
versamark
metal
panel
versus
a
fiber
cement
attached
a
more
durable
product.
I've
got
a
longer
warranty
for
finish
and
all
that.
So
that
was
the
main
rationale
for
the
change
and
you
can
see
on
that
north's
facade.
The
way.
E
K
Decreased
the
synthetic
stuff
cones
we
just
raised
that
metal
panel
up
to
the
seventh
floor
from
so
from
the
fourth
to
the
seventh
floor.
We
added
some
sections
of
metal
panel
going
further
vertical
and
that's
essentially
what
we
did
all
around
the
building.
We
took
that
seventh
floor
as
the
point
of
bringing
the
metal
panel
to
stucco
transition
all
the
way
around.
A
K
K
Locked
metal
panel
and
and
when
you
look
at
those
draw
the
next
couple
of
pages,
there's
a
couple
manufacturer
details
of
some
things
like
that.
G
So
these
these
drawings
will
be
in
our
next
lining
board
submission
and
they
include
the
percentages
and
we'll
go
down
here.
As
bruce
mentioned,
these
are
the
images
of
the
mysteries.
K
H
H
You
know
underneath
cornices
or
underneath
sills,
whatever
you
can
find
places
to
maybe
use
more
of
that
bruce.
I
think
I
would
it
would
be
appreciated
at
least
we'll
take.
G
You'll
see
a
reveal
like
this
for
the
fourth
floor,
as
you
look
up
toward
that
community
room.
So
if
you're
in
that
east-west
alley
as
you
look
up,
you'll
see
it
and
as
we
go
on
and
in
the
september
meetings,
you'll
see
a
good
amount
of
wood
in
the
landscape
materials
as
well
for
the
planters
and
the
deck.
H
K
I
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look,
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of.
It
is,
as
you
point
out,
sort
of
in
a
ceiling
related
surface,
and
so
sometimes
it
doesn't
show
up
as
much
on
the
elevations.
But
I
think
we
ought
to
take
a
look
at
that
as
the
underside
or
soffit
material,
so
it
does
give
as
you're
looking
up.
You
do
get
a
little
bit
of
different
color
transition.
G
And
we,
these
are
not
final
plans
at
all,
but
we
wanted
to
share
some
progress
in
our
design,
team's
thinking
about
potential,
any
potential
changes
to
the
space
between
astiri
and
city
hall.
Again,
the
city
would
be
taking
the
lead
and
how
and
how
and
why
we're
designing
this
space
in
different
ways.
But
we've
looked
at
a
few
options
that
accommodate
more
than
you
might
think
in
terms
of
numbers
of
cars
that
can
be
loading
and
parallel
parked
at
the
access
and
just
looking
at
how
this
space
could
be
used.
G
H
I
love
this.
This
is
a
really
nice
sketch
kate.
This
is
great.
What
about
the
god
that
west
facade
that
looked
very
big
above
the
loading
zone
and
very
imposing
on
that
space,
wondering
what
you're
doing
with
that
yeah
is
there
lighting?
Is
there
as
well
that
you've
wrapped
around
the
north
same
similar
stuff
or
anything,
that's
correct,
articulating
that
facade
a
little
bit
more.
G
So,
like
we
mentioned
we're
going
to
have
in
september,
probably
for
the
september
drc
meeting,
we
have
a
full
lighting
plan
that
shows
all
the
lighting
in
the
landscape,
all
the
lighting
on
all
of
the
facades.
G
I
don't
we
wanted
to
focus
our
conversation
today
about
speaker
issues,
but
I
wanted
to
also
state
thinking
about.
I
think
some
things
are
tbd
in
this
area,
but
we
are
thinking
about
those
for
the
design.
B
G
So
is
there
any
other
questions
about
the
north
facade
of
the
building
facing
herald
square,
the
east,
west
valley
or
city
hall
plaza?
Those
are
the
sort
of
design
items
we
saw
as
outstanding
for
the
thief
part
three
and
if
there's
anything
else
about
any
outstanding
things
for
seeker
for
this
month,
again
we're
really
looking
forward
to
a
design
conversation
in
september.
C
A
I
mean
there
are
a
few.
There
are
still
a
few
moving
parts,
but
I
think
that
it's
getting
pretty
buttoned
up
and
I
expect
that
this
month
we
can
really
gonna
go
through
anything
new.
That's
added,
like
we
put
in
a
bigger
discussion
on
the
subdivision
that
will
be
required,
and
you
know
many
of
the
design
things
can
really
go
to
site
plan
review,
so
we'll
just
have
to
go
through
the
part.
Three
carefully.
I
don't
see
any
major.
H
G
That
was
our
next
update.
We
had
our
presentation
again.
We
really
appreciated
that
making
the
time
to
for
us
to
describe
all
of
the
moving
parts
that
shape
those
variants
requests.
The
bza
meeting
itself
is
on
september
4th
we're
finalizing
some
of
the
lot
line.
Adjustments
as
of
this
morning,
just
really
fine-tuning
some
of
that,
but
they
they
have
the
materials
that
they
asked
for.
They
asked
for
some
more
contextual
drawings
that
might
typically
be
submitted.
C
All
right
anything
else
from
staff
for
board
any
other
questions
or
issues
to
be
brought
up
by
the
applicant.
L
You
say
you
mentioned
some
added
language
in
the
seeker
forms
for
the
subdivision.
Is
that
something
we
might
be
able
to
see
ahead
of
the
meeting.
A
It's
already
in
the
part
three
that
was
distributed.
I
think
the
part
three
was
distributed
for
this
meeting,
the
draft
it's
in
there,
okay,
so
yes,
you
can
see
it.
You
can.
If
you
know,
if
you
have
any
suggestions
for
edits,
please
let
me
know
thank
you.
C
Well,
thanks
guys,
I
think
that's
it
for
today
excited
to
see
you
in
a
couple
weeks.
I
hope
it's
all
smooth.
I
hope
we
can
get
you
moving.
B
C
H
A
A
M
Yes,
we
do
brian
bouchard
and
james:
do
you
guys
want
to
start
off?
First.
J
J
L
C
N
Okay,
so
I
think
the
the
focus
was
was
really
our
last
submission.
You
had
circulated
the
draft
of
the
part
three,
so
we
wanted
to
respond
to
the
gaps
and
questions
that
were
within
that
draft,
so
we
provided
a
cover
letter
that
went
through
some
pointed
responses
to
those
gaps
that
you
had
in
there
covering
and
re-restating
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
kind
of
provided
in
the
past,
with
our
capability
to
handle
trash
and
recycling
impacts
on
surface
and
groundwater.
N
We've
stated
the
required
information
that
you
wanted
for
bicycle
parking,
both
interior
to
the
building
and
the
bike
racks
exterior
some
more
about
loading
zone.
N
Another
some
of
these
come
up
more
than
once,
but
the
bicycle
parking
lighting,
dark
sky
compliance
and
street
level,
appropriate
lighting
for
pedestrians
within
the
streetscape
area,
and
then
some
additional
information
that
you
wanted
on
the
proximity
to
one
of
the
new
york
state,
dec
id
sites
for
remediation
and
then
going
through
our
variance
application,
which
was
submitted
in
tandem
with
this
application.
N
N
The
gray
area
that
you
see
is
just
an
accent
with
colored
concrete,
but
the
full
width
of
the
sidewalk
is
all
concrete,
and
this
just
gives
kind
of
some
interest
to
the
pedestrian
pathway.
We
do
have
scoring
patterns.
That
would
accent
the
front
door
to
the
main
entrance
of
the
lobby,
and
one
of
the
changes
that
we
made
was
to
provide
more
of
a
straight
alignment
within
that
front
door
and
because
of
the
tight
area
that
we
had
for
plantings
up
along
the
curb
line.
We
change
this
to
to
leave
it
as
a
tree.
N
It's
really
the
only
there's
a
lot
of
underground
utilities
that
encumber
some
of
the
other
areas
along
the
curb
line.
So
we
left
this
as
a
tree,
but
it'll
be
trained
changed
to
a
tree
pit
with
an
ada
compliant
grate.
Instead
of
having
shrubs
and
plantings
around
it.
This
will
give
a
little
bit
more
ability
for
free
passage
of
pedestrians
within
the
face
of
the
building.
N
N
N
These
aren't
ada
detectable
warnings
because
they
are
just
driveways
they're,
not
street
intersections,
but
there
was
some
interest
from
the
board
and
making
sure
that
pedestrians
were
made.
Aware
that
this
area
was
a
driveway,
so
not
only
do
we
have
the
colored
concrete
pattern
facing
the
building,
which
kind
of
gives
a
cue
that
this
is
a
driveway
we've
added
some
scoring
patterns
that
would
be
along
both
sides
of
the
driveway
to
delineate
them
from
the
greater
good
of
the
sidewalk
as
well.
N
Okay,
all
these
updates
for
the
streetscape
plan
are
incorporated
into
john's
architectural
plans
too,
and
he
can
take
you
through
some
of
the
updates
that
he
made
to
his
set.
M
All
right,
can
everyone
see
my
no.
A
M
Can
everyone
see
it
now?
Yes,
yep,
wonderful,
perfect,
all
right,
so
one
of
the
things-
and
this
is
based
on
what
brian
was
discussing-
the
concern
about
the
transformer
location.
M
What
we
had
mentioned
last
time
was,
you
know
how
do
we
properly
shield
it
from
pedestrian
view
so
that
it
just
kind
of
blends
in
more
so
you'll
notice?
You
know
our
mesh
railings
that
we
have
and
the
parking
and
the
balconies
we
bring
that
language
down.
Here
I
mean,
maybe
we
make
it
a
little
tighter
mesh,
but
it
starts
to
kind
of
hide
and
blend
the
transformer
in
and
we're
planning
on,
having
plantings
around
it
as
well.
So
just
something
a
little
more
in
case
these
plants.
M
You
know,
hopefully
you
know,
die
during
the
winter
or
something
like
that
or
get
a
little
thinner.
We
have
something
else
to
have
around
it.
So
you'll
see
this
view
in
here.
Obviously,
there
needs
to
be
access
to
it
from
the
back
side,
but
since
this
is
a
one-way
road
and
drive,
you
know
all
cars
are
going
east.
M
The
thought
process
was,
we
keep
it
open
on
the
on
the
east
side
so
that
most
of
the
car
traffic
isn't
staring
at
it
as
they
drive
by
we've
implemented
that
tree
grate
into
our
rendering
with
one
tree
in
front
of
the
main
entry.
M
So
you
see
that
here
with
the
ada,
accessible
grate
and
the
other
issue
that
was
brought
up
last
time
or
concern
was
about
just
the
transparency
of
the
glazing
and
that
quarter
coming
out
what
we
didn't.
What
we
didn't
have
in
there
before
was
decorative
fixtures
or
anything
on
the
wall
or
showing
kind
of
what's
going
on
behind
there,
but
we
we
tried
to
show
it
a
little.
M
More
is
what
we
could
do
here
with
some
art
features
to
make
this
portion
of
the
glazing
feel
like
it
is
part
of
the
space,
a
little
more
just
to
provide
more
of
a
clear
understanding
of
how
that
frontage
is
going
to
look.
M
So
those
are
the
updates
on
east
green
street
side.
What
we
did
for
the
common
side
and
one
of
the
concerns
was
it
just
didn't,
feel
activated
enough,
and
the
reason
for
that
or
part
of
that
reason
was
just
the
glazing
on
the
ground
level
was
not
lit
up
or
anything
like
that.
So
what
we
did
is
went
back
into
our
rendering
and
show
that
when
it's
all.
M
What
we
did
also
is
added
some
accent:
lighting
at
the
main
entrance,
some
up
light
and
down
light
in
order
to
create
a
little
more
decorative
lighting
at
the
main
entry
to
dress
it
up
more.
A
I
have
I
have
a
question
about
so
in
the
the
renderings
of
the
green,
the
green
street
facade
beautiful.
I
think
that
the
you
know
those
large
pieces
of
artwork
really
help
so
all
right
that
one
in
particular.
So
I
see
these
trees
there.
I
see
lots
of
trees
that
look
really
good,
but
I
didn't
see
them
on
the
plant.
The
actual
landscape
plan
that
brian
showed
are
those.
Are
there
going
to
be
additional
plantings
in
that
area
where
the
transformer
is
or
or
aren't?
Are
there
not.
N
So
I'll
I'll
take
this
one,
and
without
going
back
to
my
plan,
the
the
benches,
you
can
see
that
the
benches
have
plantings
as
a
backdrop,
there's
low-level
plantings
on
both
sides
and
there'll
be
ornamental
trees.
You
know
within
the
area,
that's
shown
they're
kind
of
shorter
trees,
because
we
are
dealing
with
the
face
of
the
building
there.
N
The
one
thing
that
we
did
want
to
point
out
is
the
tree:
that's
at
the
main
entrance
within
the
tree
pit
is
going
to
be
planted
at
a
mature
height
such
that
it
doesn't
impact
the
pedestrian
walkway.
This
was
something
that
jeff
rimland
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
wasn't
just
a
twiggy
tiny
tree
with
no
volume
to
the
top
of
it
that
would
have
to
mature
over
time.
You
know
this
will
be
a
tree.
N
That's
planted
at
maturity
so
that
it
has,
you
know
six
feet
of
clear
space
under
it
with
at
least
a
substantial
canopy
that
can
continue
to
grow
the
plantings
along
the
transformer.
N
The
the
rendering
does
show
a
tree
there.
We
found
conflict
with
the
underground
utilities,
there's
a
main
duck
bank
that
runs
east
west
along
green
street.
That
would
prohibit
those
trees
from
being
planted,
but
we
did
show
the
shrub
plantings
around
the
the
mesh
screen
so
between
the
green
screen
of
the
mesh,
the
green
screen
of
the
plantings
and
the
additional
mesh
screen
that
would
surround
the
transformer
still
provide
that
screening
that
that
I
think
we're
interested
in
and
show
on
the
board.
A
F
A
N
Yep,
I'm
in
I'm
in
the
zoom
world
here
let
me
go
back
to
my.
N
So
yes,
there
is
there.
The
underground
duck
bank
goes
right
through
the
middle
of
that
green
space.
But
yeah
I
mean
it's
it's
a
lawn
area.
Now
we
do
have.
That
is
our
mechanical
room,
so
between
the
secondary
service
from
the
transformer
going
into
the
building.
We
also
have
our
two
water
services
that
go
into
the
building,
but
neither
of
those
would
prevent
us
from
providing
additional
landscaping
as
long
as
it's
you
know,
shrubs
and
and
perennials,
and
things
like
that,
so
we
can
bolster
that
landscape
plan.
N
A
N
Yeah
I'll
work
with
our
landscape
architect
this
this
between
today
and
tomorrow,
and
we
could
get
something
back
to
you
in
short
order
that
kind
of
cleans
that
up
a
little
bit.
I
think.
N
H
Five
hundred
three,
which
I
appreciate,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
Your
root
ball
is
going
to
be
big.
It's
going
to
be
probably
bigger
than
five
feet,
and
also,
if
you're
gonna
plant
a
mature
tree
like
that
you're
gonna
need
more
space
than
five
by
five.
Five
by
five
is
very
limiting
and
the
roots
roots.
Typically
don't
go
down,
they
go
out,
so
the
the
broader
the
planting
bed
is
the
better.
Your
tree
is
going
to
perform
over
time.
So
you're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
money.
H
Big
trees
are
expensive
to
you
know
relative
to
the
project,
but
you
you
know
it's
not
going
to
go
anywhere
for
years.
If
that
doesn't
have
root
space
to
go
out.
So
if
there's
a
way
to
make
that
planting
bed
bigger
to
lisa's
point,
you
know
there's
a
way
to
find
more
landscape
space
around
for
the
root
ball
of
a
huge
mature
tree
and
for
supplemental
plantings.
That
would
be
good.
I
don't
know
what
the
curb
I
don't
remember
what
it
looks
like
in
your
front
door,
but.
N
I
I
agree
mitch,
and,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
other
sort
of
urban
landscape
designs
would
be
to
provide
that
that
root
mass
volume
within
a
landscape
soil.
It's
an
engineered
soil
that
provides
structural
stability,
but
also
for
the
sidewalk,
but
also
provides
enough
void
space
for
the
roots
to
intrude
horizontally,
like
you're
like
you're
talking
about
so
we
can.
I
can
work
with
other
landscape
architects
to
make
sure
that
the
that
those
kind
of
details
are
incorporated
in
our
landscape.
A
N
F
A
H
M
A
A
A
I
have
to
say
I'm
surprised
about
the
variance.
I
didn't
realize
that
I
thought
it
was.
You
were
what
I
understood
from
descriptions
were.
That
was
that
you
were
gonna
more
or
less
stay
within
the
allowed
height.
You
just
needed
more
stories
because
the
florida
floor,
and
now
I
see
that
the
height
you're,
it's
two
stories
and
16
feet,
you're
asking
for
or
something.
N
The
problem
was
by
adding
an
occupied
terrace,
despite
the
small
volume
of
elevator
overrun,
that's
directly
in
the
center
of
this
building,
because
it's
an
occupied
area
on
top.
You
still
have
to
count
that
elevator
overrun
as
your
maximum
height.
N
Correct,
which
is
the
minuscule
portion
of
the
roof
surface,
and
it's
very
well
screened
because
of
the
height
of
the
building
as
far
as
perception
from
the
street
but
the
actual
roof
deck
elevation
is
only
like
two
feet
and
change
or
something
over
what's
allowed.
But
that
was
part
of
our
conversation
with
the
occupancy
and
the
descriptions.
A
K
N
You
know
we're
not
trying
to
grossly
exceed
it
based
on
based
on
what
we
need
and
the
number
of
stories
is
kind
of
intricate
as
well.
It's
not
just
a
flat
floor
plate
all
the
way
up
of
of
14
stories
where
12's
allowed.
There's
this
intermediate
level.
That's
the
connection
between
the
commons
and
our
level.
That's
a
mezzanine!
That's
considered
a
story.
Okay
and
then
because
we
have
the
rooftop,
that's
also
a
story
they're,
basically
both
unique,
which
makes
our
case,
I
think,
a
little
easier
to
prove
than
just
trying
to
go.
N
A
N
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
we
went
through
each
one
of
the
highlights
that
you
had
and
responded
to
them
each
in
our
cover
letter.
So
if
there
is
additional
discussion
that
you
want
to
have
on
those
items,
we
can
get
you
whatever
you
need,
but
I
think
I
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
If
we,
if
we
need
to
give
you
something
else,
we
can
okay.
A
So
we're
scheduled
for
determination
of
environmental
significance
and
recommendation
to
bca.
N
Wonderful,
we
also
have
the
notices
that
will
be
sent
out.
I
think
we
have
to
come
pick
up
the
sign
on
monday,
we'll
post
those
bza
signs,
we're
gonna
get
two
just
like
we
did
for
site
plan
just
to
have
one
on
the
commons
and
one
on
the
street
side
of
green
street
and
we'll
complete
those
public
notice
mailings
as
well.
I
think
either
monday
or
tuesday
is
what
anya
told
us.
So,
okay.
A
F
L
M
A
N
H
Yeah,
no,
I
think
I'm
good.
I
don't
think
we
need
to.