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A
Thank
you
tonight
is
the
december
14th
council
briefing
on
the
special
meeting.
There
are
four
items
that
we'd
like
to
try
to
get
through
tonight,
but
I
am
going
to
do
them
in
a
slightly
different
order.
I'm
basically
going
to
do
them
in
reverse
order,
because
I
think
the
council
priorities
are
probably
the
most
important
and
should
go
last,
so
we
can
dedicate
as
much
time
to
it
as
necessary.
A
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
co-sponsorship
policy
in
number
four
slot,
which
is
round
two
a
couple
of
months
ago,
you
heard
the
draft
policy
that
was
created
by
the
recreational
health
department
and
jason
patines
and
his
staff.
He
went
back
and
made
some
revisions
based
on
the
comments
that
he
had
heard
from
council.
B
I
guess
we'll
go
ahead
and
use
the
light
system,
since
we're
up
here.
Miss
building
was
first
with
a
question.
D
C
E
A
question
on
in
section
1b:
it
knows
that
the
event
must
be
without
alcohol,
which
is
something
I
was
agreed
on.
But
then
on
section
three
subsection
g
section:
four
four:
you
mentioned
insurance
for
alcohol
events.
B
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
and
the
adjustments
based
on
our
last
meeting,
and
my
question
was
about
the
criteria
that
they
have
to
be
a
valid
non-profit
or
community
service
organization.
Can
you
tell
me
what
a
community
service
organization
would
be,
for
example,.
D
B
You
some
flexibility
with
who
you're
not
allowed
to
do
something,
so
it
might
might
be
somebody
that
puts
together
open
mic
nights
but
doesn't
have
a
non-profit
associated
with
that.
Okay.
So
then,
my
follow-up
question
would
be
on
page
three
of
five
number
g3.
It
says
all
non-profits
must
complete.
Could
we
just
change
that
to
all
organizations,
because
otherwise,
then
you
knock
out
those
community
service
organizations?
B
Okay,
thank
you!
That's
all!
Otherwise
I
thought
this
was
very
well
done,
we're
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
implemented
and
I'm
kind
of
glad
to
see
pasadena
in
there,
because
I
do
believe
that
we
there's
always
going
to
be
a
good
example
in
other
cities
of
things
like
this.
So
we
shouldn't
be
reinventing.
C
I
apologize.
I
had
one
other
question
and
I
didn't
see
it
when
I
was
asking
you
that
first
one
on
page
205
in
the
requirements
and
terms
section
c,
it
mentions
an
exception
for
neighborhood
associations
not
having
to
provide
insurance
coverage
required
by
the
city.
What
could
you
explain
why.
D
E
Could
you
give
me
an
example
of
a
community
organization
who
would
be
putting
on
a
co-sponsored
event
with
the
city
that
differs
from
a
community
or
a
non-nonprofit
that
would
be
allowed
like
chris's
example
was
just
a
person
doing
an
open
mic
night,
not
being
a
non-profit?
How
would
that
individual
or
individuals
differ
from
a
neighborhood
organization
or
a
community
organization,
and
if
it
is
an
open
mic
night?
Is
that
something
that
we
should
have
insurance
for
or
shouldn't?
D
So
if
you
take
the
association
at
riptide,
for
example,
they
want
to
come
together
and
they
want
to
do
a
farmer's
market
down
at
the
seawall
pavilion.
That
would
be
an
example
of
a
community
organization
that
we
would
waive
the
insurance
requirement
as
far
as
an
individual
that
would
want
to
come
and
play
acoustic.
We'd
go
through
the
process,
part
of
the
breaking
process.
We
can
go
through
the
application
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
a
free
event
that
it's
not
going
to
benefit
that
individual
and
it's
free
to
the
citizens
and
community.
B
A
The
next
item
that
we
have
on
here
are
some
proposed
amendments
to
chapter
32
of
the
city's
fats,
oils
and
greece
ordinance
also
referred
to
as
fog.
This
is
something
that
the
city
attorney
has
been
working
on
with
the
public
works
department
and
they've
made
some
administrative
changes
to
the
ordinance
itself
if
either
mr
barron
or
mr
ambrosio
would
like
to
address
some
of
those
proposed
changes
and
again,
council
should
have
a
draft
of
the
markups
that
has
been
proposed
by
staff.
F
Okay,
thank
you
again
for
listening
to
our
proposed
changes,
kristen
and
I
as
well
as
george
breyer,
our
password
in
greece
guy
in
the
back
for
those
that
don't
know
him
very
passionate
man
about
everything
that
he
does,
and
I
have
phil
brown
with
you
as
well:
the
superintendent
of
pcp
and
then
the
water
plants
both.
So
we
all
four
met
and
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
this
ordinance
and
a
couple
of
easy
ones.
F
F
So
we
had
to
clean
up
all
that
administrative
stuff
with
crystal
care
for
the
most
part
and
then
what
we
did
is
we
actually
took
a
good
look
at
our
ordinance
itself,
where
the
city
and
our
fog
ordinance
concentrated
heavily
on
gravity,
grease
interceptors
as
a
requirement,
and
only
allowing
the
alternate
to
be
used.
If
there
wasn't
space,
the
alternate
can
actually
do
a
somewhat
better
job
than
what
a
gravity
grease
interceptor
can
do.
F
So
what
we've
actually
done
is
loosened
up
some
of
the
requirements
that
were
in
there
for
space
requirements
and
we
do
allow
the
alternate
increasing
receptors
to
be
used
as
well,
and
so
for
the
most
part,
that
was
the
changes
that
were
made
a
lot
of
different
definitions
and
words,
and
we
cleaned
up
a
lot
of
the
ordinance
itself
just
to
make
it
read
better
and
more
more
legal.
I
guess
is
in
the
terms.
So
if
anybody
has
any
specific
questions.
D
C
Thank
you
dennis.
Thank
you
for
the
explanation,
because
I
was
wondering
when
I
saw
the
change
regarding
the
hydro-mechanical,
I
was
yeah
wondering
why
it
was
changed
from
shallow
prohibited
to
made
prohibited
so
that
that
helps
me
a
lot.
I
appreciate
that,
so
it's
not
a
matter
of.
We
prefer
the
gravity.
C
F
Brought
to
us
as
to
whether
we
could
legally
point
them
in
one
direction
or
another,
you
know
so
when
we
looked
at
it
administratively
to
say,
can
we
really
tell
people
they
have
to
put
into
gravity
over
a
hydro
mechanical?
They
kind
of
became
questionable,
whether
we
have
the
legal
authority
to
be
able
to
require
one
over
the
other
when
they're
a
competing
device.
F
George
is
to
stick
me
up.
George
george
has
preached
gravity,
grease,
interceptors.
That's
what
he's
learned
it's
what
he
knows,
that's
what
he
can
demonstrate
the
show
it's
what
he's
very
comfortable
with,
and
he
has
also
seen
a
lot
and
heard
a
lot
about
the
alternate
interceptors
so
he's
kind
of
coming
around.
I
guess
george!
F
So
anyway,
he
he
understands.
I
mean
a
lot
of
times.
We
would
allow
his
space
requirements
would
come
in.
So
what
we're
getting
into
now
is
you're
getting
a
drive-thru
that
might
be
added
into
a
strip
mall
and
now
you're,
requiring
to
bust
up
a
big
chunk
of
the
parking
lot
to
put
in
this
gravity
grease
interceptor
underground,
where
it's
going
to
fit.
F
How
it's
got
to
do
that
all
has
to
do
with
the
inspection
and
the
contact
times
that
actually
have
for
the
grease
and
the
grain
water
to
flow
through
it,
and
what
george
has
found
is
that
he
can
actually
put
considerable
amounts
of
stipulations
in
place
on
how
the
hydro
mechanical
will
work
to
allow
the
stainless
better
results.
The
issues
are
because
the
salesman
promised
that
you
can
install
a
hydro
mechanical.
F
You
don't
ever
have
to
do
anything
for
90
days
or
six
months
or
whatever,
and
then
you
know
so
we
make
sure
from
the
beginning
that
the
business
owners
understand
our
rules
say
different
than
that
and
they
say
you
have
to
do
it
every
you
know
30
days
and
then
we
can
offer
you
waivers
to
let
you
go
longer
if
you
can
prove
that
you're
not
putting
any
grease
in.
So
it's.
F
C
F
F
We
have
a
few
bars
that
are
now
restaurants
that
are
operating
without
a
grease
interceptor.
We've
got
to
kind
of
deal
with
those
in
the
upcoming
months.
As
we
see
the
changes
in
code
and
business
rules
overall,
there's
not
a
cost
difference
unless
they
have
one
failing
and
then
we
have.
You
know
a
rebate
program
based
on
upgrades
and
whatnot,
so
it
all
it
all
kind
of
helps
them
along
with
that
process,
as
well.
G
F
G
D
D
B
Huge
expense
to
our
restaurants,
and
I
think
anything
we
can
do
to
streamline
and
make
things
easier
to
conquer
him
from
our
end
is
a
good
thing
for
our
small
local
businesses.
A
The
third
item
that
we
have
in
here
is
a
communications
document
for
the
benefit
of
the
new
council
members.
I
went
through
this
same
listing
with
the
previous
or
existing
council
members
a
couple
months
after
first
starting
and
the
reason
was
to
clarify
lines
of
communication
and
availability
for
the
city
manager
and
administration,
just
so
that
we're
all
on
the
same
playing
field.
So
to
speak.
A
If
you
notice
the
first
half
of
the
document
is
information.
That's
all
been
made
part
of
the
legislative
policies
manual.
That's
actually
contained
within
that
document,
but
starting
with
number
two
is
the
start
of
supplemental
information
that
is
not
contained
within
that
and
that's
what
I
wanted
to
walk
through
with
you
tonight.
A
Many
of
you
have
probably
observed
that
within
the
city
charter,
it
talks
about
communication
being
through
the
city
manager,
and
this
is
to
basically
clarify
for
all
the
council
members
that
there
are
levels
of
communication
with
department
directors
that
I
am
okay
with
elected
officials
having
and
there's
specific
instances
that
are
called
out.
For
instance,
if
there's
an
existing
document
or
a
memorandum
or
an
agenda
memo
that
has
been
produced
by
the
organization,
and
you
wish
to
ask
questions
about
the
content
by
the
author
or
by
the
department
director.
A
A
The
same
thing
goes:
if
you
are
going
to
request
towards
the
facilities,
ride-alongs
or
etc,
or
try
to
get
to
know
their
operation
by
all
means,
please
call
the
department
director
and
schedule
some
time
to
either
meet
with
them
or
to
get
tours
of
the
appropriate
facilities.
I
think
for
some
of
the
new
council
members.
You've
already
started
that
process
of
working
through
chris
wright
and
actually
have
started
tourism
facilities
so
again
for
any
of
the
council
members.
A
The
next
item
is
with
regards
to
or
just
to
clarify,
going
down
a
little
bit
further
questions
or
requests
from
council
should
not
be
directed
below
the
level
of
department
director.
That's
one
that
I
would
really
appreciate
that
you
stick
to
the
department
directors
and
I
all
have
a
good
working
relationship
whereby,
if
you
send
them
an
email
and
forget
to
copy
the
city,
manager
or
city
administration,
they
will
immediately.
A
This
is
to
let
you
know
how
we
handle
that
with
regards
to
a
request
for
information,
we
treat
it
just
like
a
public
records
request,
and
I
know
for
the
new
council
members
that
might
be
a
little
new
for
you
and
you
just
have
your
onboarding
through
staff,
but
and
anytime.
Someone
anonymously
requests
information
from
us.
We
are
obligated
to
provide
it
and
we
are
not
allowed
legally
to
ask
them
for
their
name
or
the
purposes
with
which
they
will
use
that
information.
A
So
anonymous
request
for
information.
We
treat
that
as
a
public
records
request.
If
we
receive
other
anonymous
information,
it's
the
it's
the
policy
of
the
city
manager
and
administration's
office
that
we
do
not
engage
and
respond
with
the
anonymous
individual.
However,
that
also
does
not
mean
that
we
will
not
investigate
the
allegations
or
the
complaints
that
may
be
made.
A
So
we
take
every
piece
of
information
that
we
receive
seriously
to
an
extent,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
engage
with
people
who
remain
on
us
on
the
next
page.
Number
four
on
page
three
of
three
is
with
regards
to
the
city
manager's
office.
Specifically,
the
city
manager
is
available,
24
7
unless
on
leave,
and
that
includes
vacation,
sick,
fmla
or
bereavement
there's
a
reason.
We
have
a
deputy
city
manager
and
she
is
highly
capable
of
running
all
the
operations
here
at
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach.
A
If
I
am
not
available,
she
is
the
one
that
is
authorized
to
make
all
of
those
decisions
or
up
to
a
certain
limit
as
she
and
I
may
have
discussed
before
my
absence
from
the
office
telephone
and
city
email
communications
phone
calls
after
normal
business
hours
are
acceptable,
provided
the
privilege
is
not
abused.
Please
don't
call
me
at
one
in
the
morning
to
ask
me
who
won
the
baseball
game
because
I'll
probably
say
you
serious
and
I'll
hang
up
the
phone
and
if,
in
the
event,
I
don't
answer
the
phone
leave
a
message.
A
We
do
not
conduct
any
of
the
city's
businesses
by
text
and
again
we
may
only
use
it
to
pass
out
mass
information
or
tell
you
to
go
check
your
email,
or
I
might
also
send
you
a
text
and
ask
you
if
you're
available
for
a
phone
call
just
to
see
if
you're,
free
and
not
in
a
meeting
the
last
one
is
with
regards
to
the
city
manager
being
out
of
office,
the
on
duty
off
duty,
as
I've
indicated,
if
I'm
in
the
office
or,
if
I'm
out
of
the
office,
but
still
on
duty,
such
as
at
a
conference
off-site
meetings,
etc.
A
That
means
I
am
still
reachable
by
all
means.
Call
me
email
me
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
get
in
touch
with
me
if
I'm
out
of
the
office,
but
still
on
the
clock,
I
may
be
delegating
some
of
the
decision
making
authority
to
the
deputy
city
manager
in
my
absence,
especially
for
a
lot
of
the
day-to-day
activities
and
the
last
one
is,
if
I
am
out
of
the
office
and
I'm
off
duty
such
as
vacation,
sick,
fmla
or
bereavement.
A
B
E
A
Keeping
you
can
send
them
to
both
of
us
as
long
as
we're
both
on
the
email
list.
Chris
is
the
record
keeper
so
to
speak.
So
if
you
send
it
to
me
anytime,
I
send
a
response.
You'll
typically
notice.
I
have
chris
wright
in
the
cc
and
that's
specifically
so
she's
keeping
a
running
tab
with
what's
outstanding,
what's
been
answered,
what
happened.
E
So
when
would
we
contact
you
directly
because
this
says
that
all
in
section
one.
E
A
A
A
A
There
needs
to
be
a
more
formal
tracking
of
those
types
of
requests,
so
that
we
can
make
a
determination
of
whether
or
not
it
needs
to
be
brought
up
to
the
council
is
that
information
that
would
be
beneficial
to
all
of
you,
based
on
the
amount
of
time
that
is
going
to
be
spent
by
staff
trying
to
fulfill
that
request,
and
I
think
those
were
really
the
two
big.
C
A
You
can
send
me
a
text
through
ringcentral.
I
think
this
is
more
applicable
towards
your
standard,
personal
telephone
or
your
cell
phone.
So
you
know
don't
send
a
generic
test,
but
if
you
are
using
city
systems,
whether
that's
ring
central,
whether
that's
outlook
feel
free
to
use
the
email
feature
or
the
texting
feature,
because
I've
had
a
council
member
that
has
actually
sent
me
a
couple
of
photographs
through
the
ringcentral
app
and
those
photographs
are
now
recorded
and
logged
in
part
of
the
record.
A
So
it's
not
being
done
out
of
the
sunshine
it's
in
the
sunshine.
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
I
have
no
other
links
fantastic
with
that.
We
will
backtrack
to
item
number
one,
which
is
city
council
priorities
and
we'll
probably
spend
a
few
minutes
actually
walking
through
these
just
so
that
everyone
has
a
little
bit
more
appreciation
of
what
they
are,
the
amount
of
effort
that
goes
into
each
one
of
these
and
how
they
came
to
being.
A
When
I
started
almost
two
years
ago,
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
with
council
was
to
sit
down
and
say
what
are?
What
are
the
council's
priorities
for
the
next
two
years
and
beyond
going
forward
and
obviously
a
lot
of
different
council
members
had
a
lot
of
different
ideas
as
to
where
we
should
be
going,
but
there
was
a
very
good
briefing
conversation
and
I
think,
consensus
on
a
lot
of
items
of
what
we
should
be
moving
forward
on.
A
The
the
purpose
of
this
particular
item
tonight
is
you,
as
a
council
will
be
seated
for
effectively
the
next
23
months,
and
the
question
is:
are
the
priorities
of
this
council
the
same
priorities
of
the
previous
council,
or
are
they
any
changes
that
you
would
like
to
make
in
terms
of
the
projects
that
we're
working
on?
Is
there
any
prioritization
that
you
would
like
to
see,
or
any
changes
in
course
direction?
A
We
as
staff
need
to
know
that,
because
if
we
continue
in
this
direction
and
ultimately
it's
not
the
direction,
you
want
us
to
go
we're
going
in
the
wrong
direction.
So
that's
why
we're
having
this
conversation
so
early
into
your
seating
as
the
new
council,
so
that
we
can
make
the
most
out
of
as
much
to
us
between
now
and
november
of
2022..
A
So
the
the
first
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
community
vision
and
I'll
actually
tie
that
in
with
strategic
plan,
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
with
all
council
members.
A
So
the
city
council
agreed
that
the
community
vision
and
the
creation
of
the
strategic
plan
for
the
organization
were
two
high
priority
items.
The
community
vision
process
started
with
community
conversations
which
took
place
over
the
last
12
months.
There
were
a
total
of
nine.
Some
of
you
that
are
up
there
on
council,
actually
participated
in
one
or
more
of
them,
or
you
were
an
observer
at
any
of
those
meetings,
and
the
purpose
was
to
kind
of
go
through
that
first
step
of
community
visioning
of
finding
out
what
the
residents
thought
about
their
future
community.
A
The
next
two
elements
that
you
see
on
that
gantt
chart
are
also
tied
together:
top
plan
amendments
and
e-a-r
e-a-r
stands
for
evaluation
and
appraisal
report
and
the
lynn
development
code.
Amendments
start
with
the
land
development
code,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
phase
one
and
then
further
out.
There's
a
phase.
Two.
A
The
previous
council
felt
that
there
were
issues
with
the
land
development
code
that
needed
to
be
changed,
some
of
them
and
some
of
them.
After
doing
the
top
plan
amendments
or
the
evaluation
appraisal
report,
the
first
phase
amendments
were
done.
It
was
actually
a
package
that
had
been
brought
by
planning
and
development
about
18
months
earlier,
a
year
to
18
months
earlier
that
had
ultimately
been
rejected
by
council,
but
that
was
effectively
the
baby
had
been
thrown
out
with
the
bathmore.
A
There
were
a
few
items
that
were
controversial,
but
an
entire
package
of
ldc
amendments
had
been
dismissed,
so
that
package
was
brought
back
in
front
of
council.
The
handful
of
items
were
worked
through
with
council.
There
was
even
one
item
that
was
removed
from
consideration
and,
ultimately
that
first
level
of
lbc
changes
was
approved
by
council
phase.
A
Strategic
changes
to
the
lbc,
the
compliant
amendments
in
the
ear.
We
have
not
done
a
cop
plan
amendment
and
I
want
to
say
12
plus
years.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
year
that
we
did
our
last
half
point
amendments,
but
the
the
long
and
short
of
it
is.
We
haven't
gone
through
that
process
in
talking
with
both
our
planning
and
development
director
and
our
senior
plan.
A
They
both
feel
that
there's
not
too
much
that
needs
to
change
in
either
document.
But
again
we
haven't
established
a
community
vision,
yet
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
catch
22
there.
With
regards
to
the
the
sequencing
and
process,
I
can
tell
you
that
doing
top
plan
amendments
and
an
evaluation,
an
appraisal
report
again
are
projects
that
will
take
months
to
do
it's,
not
something
that's
done
in
just
a
couple
of
weeks.
A
The
next
item
that
you
see
is
charter
review
again.
The
charter
had
not
been
updated
in
a
number
of
years
and
there
were
very
specific
items
that
council
wanted
addressed
as
part
of
a
phase
one
and
incorporated
into
the
election
that
was
just
held
in
november.
So
if
you
saw
those
valid
initiatives
that
were
on
there
for
the
charter,
that
was
the
result
of
phase
one
phase,
two
would
effectively
be
an
overhaul
of
the
entire
charter
document.
A
A
A
A
We
have
since
completed
that
document.
I
think
the
clerk's
office
is
making
a
couple
final
tweaks,
but
the
original
draft
is
up
on
the
website
and
when
those
tweets
are
made-
and
we
will
substitute
that
out
with
the
final
document
council
code
of
ethics
was
another
priority
for
council.
They
wanted
an
overarching
document
that
guided
the
behavior
of
council
members,
not
just
on
the
diocesan
in
this
room,
but
out
in
the
community,
engaging
with
the
public
engaging
with
other
elected
officials,
the
press
etc,
and
that
document
has
also
been
completed.
A
The
traffic
policy
is
one
that
council
also
requested,
which
was
put
together
by
the
police
department
and
has
also
been
in
effect
now,
for
I
think,
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
eight
months
or
so
basically
anytime.
There
is
a
traffic
complaint,
whether
it's
speeding.
We
need
a
stop
sign
how
about
speed
bumps
that
gets
sent
to
the
police
department
and
they
follow
the
procedures
that
are
in
their
traffic
policy
and
the
last
one
is
the
citizens
academy,
which
is
expanding.
A
The
current
police
academy,
which
is
a
multi-session,
a
multi-day
session
with
the
police
department
for
people
to
get
acclimated
with
what
the
department
does.
The
citizens
academy
would
do
the
same
thing,
but
for
the
organization
itself,
where
people
would
get
exposed
to
parks
and
recreation,
public
works,
police,
all
the
other
departments,
and
they
would
again
have
a
graduation
similar
to
what
they
have
in
the
police
department.
That's
been
effectively
postponed,
mostly
because
of
covid.
A
The
items
that
are
on
the
bottom
are
basically
some
of
the
things
we
are
working
on.
Internally,
separate
from
the
council
priorities,
the
erp,
which
we
plan
on
coming
back
to
you
in
january,
to
talk
more
about
what
the
next
steps
are.
That
is
the
overhaul
of
our
financial
computer
systems.
Here
within
the
city,
it
affects
our
finance
department,
human
resources,
department
and
utility
billing
division.
A
The
next
one
is
the
purchasing
policy.
Previous
council
members
have
all
heard
from
both
the
finance
department
of
the
city
attorney
that
the
purchasing
policy
we
currently
have
in
place
is
antiquated
and
doesn't
need,
doesn't
meet
our
purposes.
A
The
city
attorney,
I
think,
is
estimated.
It's
probably
a
six
to
12
month
process
to
do
a
full
overhaul
of
that
document
by
specifically
looking
at
what
other
organizations
have
put
into
effect
and
then
ultimately
trying
to
pull
out
what
we
feel
are
the
best
segments
that
are
applicable
to
us
as
an
organization
and
then
administrative
policies
and
procedures.
The
deputy
city
manager
has
been
picking
those
off
one
at
a
time
when
she's
got
some
spare
time
in
between
her
fop
negotiations
and
fmpa
meetings
and
some
other
stuff.
A
So
that's
kind
of
a
high
level
overview
of
what
the
priorities
have
been
for
the
past
20
or
so
months,
and
the
question
that
we
have
for
council
and
the
reason
I
say
this
for
the
end
is
in
case.
You
want
to
have
a
conversation
amongst
yourselves
as
well,
is
whether
or
not
we
should
still
be
the
priorities
going
forward
or
whether
there
are
a
change
in
priorities
that
this
council
means
are
necessary,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
the
floor
over
to
the
council
for
either
questions
or
for
your
discussion
of
where
we
go.
D
My
only
thoughts
is,
I
would
like
for
us
all
to
be
on
the
same
page.
I'm
pretty
excited
about
this,
and
I
have
some
some
thoughts
and
ideas
on
this
is
to
have
certain
people,
certain
council
members
who
take
points
in
certain
projects.
We
have
to
have
an
expedient
mission
plan
and
just
move
forward.
D
I
mean
and
set
goals,
departmental
goals
for
the,
for
example,
the
fogs.
I
know
you
know,
decrees
falls
from
residential
areas
and
I
was
looking
at
other
vision
plans
from
other
communities
that
folks.
B
A
B
B
B
On
the
same
page,
so
just
because
we
have
so
many
vision,
plans
related
to
our
downtown
area,
so
there's
the
vision
statement
and
then
there
is
the
strategic
plan.
So
I
would
just
if
it's
okay
to
replace
your
terminology
of
vision,
plan
with
strategic
plan.
Does
that
all
make
sense
survey?
Okay,
thank
you.
Did
you
have
anything
else?
G
I
don't
know
if
we
have
to
bring
that
a
little
bit
closer
we're
going
to
talk
about
what
our
strategic
vision
plan
is
when
it
comes
to
at
least
the
downtown
section
of
jacksonville
beach
sitting
on
the
board
of
adjustments.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
our
land
development
code
that
are
kind
of
unaddressed
at
this
time
and
we've
had
to
work
through
them
from
that
aspect,
and
so
I
got
a
little
snapshot
of
what
we
were
doing.
G
E
Misty
mom,
thank
you
just
to
be
clear.
The
vision
is
citywide,
it's
not
just
downtown,
and
I
agree
that
there
is
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
land
development
code
that
needs
to
be
updated,
even
though
I
know
that
attorney
appointment
says
no,
maybe
not
so
so
bad,
but
on
the
planning
commission,
we
ran
into
a
lot
of
issues,
so
I
know
that
that
needs
to
be
refreshed.
E
So
this
way
we
can
make
sure
that
anything
that
we're
developing
over
time
helps
to
meet
the
strategic
plan
and
the
goal
set
and
the
strategic
plan,
which
eventually
will
help
us
meet
our
mission
and
achieve
our
vision,
and
so
it's
alignment.
So,
yes,
I
can
see
why
we
one
would
think
that
we
should
try
and
get
the
web
development
code
done
sooner.
E
E
H
Well,
I'm
gonna
echo
that
real
quick,
because
that
was
almost
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
is.
If
you
look,
I
think
it
was.
I
forget
which
documents
the
07
com
vision
statement
plan
whatever
that
document
is
called.
I
apologize
for
not
remembering
the
name
at
the
moment,
but
it
said
in
there
that
we
need
to
have
a
land
development
code
that
lets
what
we
put
out
in
this
document
happen,
and
it's
at
odds
all
the
time.
So
I
think
it's
vitally
important
to
you
know,
get
our
mission
statement.
H
So
I
think
that
us
guys
that
are
new,
probably
have
some
ideas
and
the
other
people
that
have
been
here
for
two
years
plus
have
something
other
ideas
that
they
want
to
address.
H
So
I
think
we
should
set
aside
a
time
to
get
together
and
come
up
with
a
few
more
we've
got
three
open
priorities,
and-
and
we
have
nine
priorities
here,
so
I
think
we
can
maybe
have
around
that
same
number
of
priorities
for
the
next
two
years,
so
that
we
can,
I
know
one
of
you
knows
some
of
these
are
going
to
be
very
long
processes,
but
there's
other
things
that
we
can
do
in
a
short
amount
of
time
to
help
improve
the
city
and
just
kind
of
brainstorm.
H
B
As
nine
slots
to
keep
full
just
I'm
not
good
at
the
staff,
but
but
I
agree
we
did
knock
off
some
of
the
more
low-hanging
fruit.
The
ones
that
are
still
left
to
be
done
are
pretty
ambitious
and
have
been
it's
deferred.
Maintenance
we've
seen
it
across
our
city.
We
and
we
see
it
internally
too,
so
so
these
are
all
really
important
are
going
to
be
pretty
big
tests.
I
didn't
see
who
got?
Are
you
still?
Did
you
already
ask
your
questions?
B
Okay,
ms
goldie.
C
I
agree
with
what
ms
hoffman
said
and
also
what
ms
dumont
said,
that
the
ones
that
we
have
ahead
of
us
are
are
pretty
significant
and
very,
very,
very
important,
and
the
ones
that
we
have
done
have
been
really
great
as
well,
but
definitely
low-hanging
fruit
and
I
feel
like
yeah.
I
I
mean
we
can
certainly
talk
about
other
ideas
that
maybe
we
want
to
try
to.
C
C
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
on
the
city
attorney's
plate,
and
so
I
I
still
feel
good
about
these
and
I
and
to
mr
mont's
point,
I'm
I'm
a
huge
supporter
of
doing
things
in
the
right
order,
because
that
way
we
will
get
the
best
results.
C
You
know
the.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
ear
was
done
in
2008
and
I
think
it
was
adopted
in
2009,
so
that
was
a
long
time
ago.
I
was
here
when
that
was
done,
though,
and
we
definitely
were
well
overdue.
Getting
that
done.
So
I
think
we
definitely
need
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
to
move
forward
in
that
direction.
E
G
A
Well,
the
good
news
is
is
that
we
still
have
a
senior
planner
who's,
been
here
for
five
plus
years
and
understands
the
current
code
as
it
exists
today.
That's
a
plus
a
new
director
may
bring
different
perspectives
from
outside
with
regards
to
different
forms
of
land
development
codes.
A
There's
form-based
codes,
some
other
versions
that
are
out
there
as
well,
but
they
may
have
a
different
perspective.
I
think
the
biggest
issue
is
going
to
be
that
anything
that
was
going
to
be
legwork
done
by
our
in-house
staff
will
obviously
be
hamstrung
by
the
vacancy
created
by
the
planning
development
director.
A
So
I
my
gut's
telling
me
that,
based
on
conversations
with
some
of
the
elected
officials
that
the
ldc
being
maybe
more,
of
a
full
overhaul
than
a
surgical
strike
on
certain
areas
and
if
we're
going
to
do
a
full
overhaul-
and
that
means
we're
going
to
bring
in
an
outside
consultant
and
we're
going
to
workshop
it
and
we're
going
to
go
through
the
whole
code
from
a
to
z.
A
E
B
B
A
B
E
I
don't
disagree,
I
think
it's
more
nuanced
than
that,
because
I
I
do
with
all
deliberate
speed.
You
want
to
do
it,
but
there's
only
so
fast.
You
can
move
with
all
of
these
on
councils.
D
I
E
Tends
to
it
in
the
past
not
have
meant
that
much
and
we
have
sunshine
and
all
that
which
there
are
a
lot
of
barriers.
We
also
have
to
overlay
that,
on
top
of
the
electoral
map,
some
of
these
things
would
require
votes
of
the
citizens,
and
so
we
have
to
line
this
stuff
up.
So
we
are
making
sure
that
our
job
is
done
prior
to
june
of
an
election
year,
so
we
can
get
onto
that
coming
year's
ballot.
So
there
are.
B
Done
would
not
suggest
that
we
move
fast
on
things
that
can't
be
done
fast.
So
I
hope
you
didn't
take
my
summary
as
such,
but
we
want
to
proceed
with
the
quickness.
I
think
that
this
council,
just
by
the
conversation
here
and
conversation
on
the
campaign
trail
and
things
like
that,
seems.
I
B
To
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
get
to
work,
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
a
lot
of
extra
meetings
and
extra
reading
homework,
etc.
To
be
able
to
move
through
through
these
things
and
formed
and
deliberately
mr
nichols.
D
And
I'm
not
opposed
to
any
of
the
new
council
members
if
they
do
have
other
ideas
that
they
want
to
add
to
this
and
want
to
propose
it.
I
mean
it's
a
timeline,
I
mean
we
can
push
it
out
to
the
end,
but
I
think
if
y'all
don't
have
ideas
that
you've
that
you've
developed
before
getting
on
and
something
that
has
been
a
goal
of
yours,
I'm
definitely
open
to
hearing
it
and
possibly
adding
it
to
us.
G
Into
what
georgette
said,
any
referendum
we're
going
to
have
to
have
at
least
a
six
month
birth
before
it
can
be
before
they'll,
be
able
to
write
it
up
and
put
it
on
surprise
elections
accepting
that
language.
A
G
D
Is
there
any
reason
we
can't
move
the
ldc
up
like
a
little
bit
to
start?
You
know
reviewing
it
and
really
make
a
decision
if
it's,
if
it's
bad
and
running
it
concurrently
with
some
of
the
other
stuff.
E
Can
I
just
interject
here
the
ldc
doesn't
require
a
vote
of
the
people,
it's
the
charter,
amendments
that
are
going
to
require
citizen
vote.
So
it's
if
you
work
our
way
back
from
the
charter
amendments
and
we
don't
know
how
we
want
to
adjust
the
charter
until
we
do
all
those
other
things
that
need
to
be
done
before
that.
E
G
Yeah
I'm
familiar
with
referendums
and
which
one's
required,
which
ones
don't
I
guess
what
I
was
trying
to
say
is
that
I
don't
know
that
we
necessarily
have
to
do
one
thing,
and
now
we
can
do
the
next,
and
now
we
can
do
the
next
as
much
as
we
can
work
in
sync,
and
if
we
fact
that,
like
councilman
nichols
was
saying
back
that
lbc
up
a
little
bit,
we
could
start
working
in
sync
along
with
other
ideas.
I
I
And
the
ldc
and,
if
well
mike-
and
I
have
had
discussions
previously
about
possibly
moving
the
charter
work
up
in
time-
closer
because
that
that's
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
and
that's
most
closely
tied
to
other
dates
that
we
can't
control
so
to
speak.
I
If
we
want
something
done
within
a
two-year
period,
so
the
as
as
your
city
attorney,
I
would
suggest
that
we
consider
getting
to
work
on
the
charter
phase
two
a
little
bit,
possibly
a
little
sooner
than
we
may
have
originally
thought,
and
the
amount
of
hours
that
it's
going
to
take
on
a
comprehensive
change
for
the
ldc
is
going
to
be
the
largest
project
in
my
office.
There's
no
question
about
that.
I
So
the
sooner
that
I'm
able
to
start
on
that
the
better,
because
those
the
depths
of
that
project
are,
you
know
dozens
of
weeks
of
full-day
projects
spread
out
over
a
year
year
and
a
half.
So
if
there's
anything
that
you're
contemplating
moving
sooner
in
time
that
the
council
would
want
staff
directed
to
you
know
perform,
I
would
suggest.
G
I
Are
the
two
that
we
move
closer
up
in
our
calendar
in
our
gantt
chart,
the
others
we
can
chip
away
at
better,
but
the
charter
review,
phase,
2
and
ldc
take
a
full
on
commitment.
We
can't
just
start
that
and
come
back
to
it
months
later,
once
we
engage
that
we're
full
throttle,
we
have
to
stay
focused
on
that
and
get
that
done.
That's
it's
a
full
commitment.
I
Right,
yes,
we
have
that
schedule.
Okay,
so
mike
reminded
me
that
we
have
in
february
of
next
year
we
have
the
phase
two
charter
briefing
topics
scheduled
so
that
boy
we'll
get
there
before
we
know
we'll
be
in
february
so
fast,
so,
okay,
so
maybe
february
will
be
the
time
that
we
really
get
started
on
that
and
my
outside
consultant
cliff
shepard
who
worked
with
us
on
phase
one
he's
ready,
and
I
you
know
he's
on
standby
he's.
I
I
told
him
you
know,
try
to
get
ready
to
do
phase
two
a
little
bit
sooner
than
we
originally
spoke
about.
So
following
our
briefing
in
a
couple
of
months,
I
can
the
very
next
morning
get
to
work
with
cliff.
C
I
C
I
There's
so
much
work
involved
in
the
land
development
code,
I
mean
there's
it
just
can't
be
overstated,
and
I
don't
mean
just
for
me.
I
mean
for
staff,
I
mean
I
need
you
know
heather.
Ireland
is
going
to
be
critical
through
the
entire
step
through
the
entire
process
and
at
every
step,
and
and
that's
you
know,
I
would
have
to
include
her
on
every
division.
Every
article,
every
chapter
that
we're
working
on
she
needs
to
know.
The
new
director
needs
to
be
involved
in
every
decision,
there's
dozens
and
dozens
of
meetings.
I
There's
tons
of
research,
rewrites
double
check
the
law
across
the
fees
off
the
eyes.
It's
it's
a
big
project.
So
but
yes,
I
agree
that
council
member
dumont
makes
a
great
point
that
there
is
a
sequence
that
must
occur,
a
logical
sequence
that
must
occur,
or
else
we're
just
you
know,
going
down
the
wrong
path.
So
the
question
is:
do
we?
How
soon
do
we
begin
those
those
sequences
to
really
get
this
right?
We
want
our
chapter
34
to
be
right
and
you
know
that's
not
done
quickly.
I
That's
it!
That's
all,
but
the
charter
I'm
actually
excited
to
work
on
a
charter,
because
the
charter
drives
me
nuts.
I
I
read
it
and
I'm
just
thinking
void
mike
just
let
me
get
started
on
this
thing,
but
you
know
we
have
a
thousand
projects
and
mike's
timed
it
out
perfectly
and
we're
coming
up
in
that
couple
of
months
and
cliff's
ready
to
go
and
come
february.
If
council
gives
us
the
direction
the
next
morning,
we're
ready
we're
going
to
start
on
that,
so
that
we
that
working
project
we
can
start.
You
know
that
that's
heavy
drafting
lots
of
legalese
re-drafting
of
a
city
charter.
That's
that's
how
that
starts
to
develop
yeah.
D
E
Mom,
thank
you.
That's
what
I
was
going
to
say.
You
need
the
comp
plan
to
do
the
lbc.
Now
we
can
shorten
the
time
on
the
comp
plan.
But
if
we
look
at
this
timeline,
we're
already
three
months
behind
we're
six
months
behind
on
the
dish
where
we'll
be
six
months
behind
on
the
vision
we're
three
months
behind
on
the
strategic
plan.
E
So
even
though
it's
sequential
we're
all
behind
and
it's
not
it's
not
staff,
it's
it
was
coded
and
the
craziness
that
we've
been
dealing
with.
So
realistically,
I'm
not
sure.
If
we're
going
to
get
this
done
in
two
years
I
mean
just
in
the
next
two
years.
I
don't
see
this
amount
really.
It
depends
on
what
the
vision
ends
up
being
in
the
strategic
plan
and
how
much
change
is
going
to
be
needed
in
the
lbc.
E
B
So,
hypothetically,
if
we
go
through
strategic
planning-
and
it
tells
us
that
and
again
this
is
hypothetical-
your
downtown's
a
mess.
You
guys
really
need
to
look
at
downtown
specifically.
Would
it
make
sense
to
pull
just
the
land
development
code
impacting
our
central
business
district
and
look
at
that
first?
Does
that
make
any
sense
at
all,
or
is
it
better
just
to
look
at
it
from
the
whole
document
right.
I
As
in
as
one
whole
project,
because
if
we
try
to
break
it
up
too
much,
what
happens
is
we'll
end
up
passing
certain
ordinances
that
take
segments
of
chapter
34,
lbc,
then
three,
four
months
later,
I'm
working
on
something-
and
I
realized
that
is
going
to
affect
everything
that
I
did
in
council
group
four
months
earlier
now.
I
need
to
go
back
and
change
what
council
approved
four
months
earlier,
it's
inevitable!
A
So
any
changes
that
we
would
be
making
to
the
ldc
at
this
point
in
time
would,
for
the
most
part,
be
based
on
council's
input
and
possibly
comments
that
you
receive
from
the
public
when
we
would
listen
when
we
would
hear
those
ordinances,
but
it
would
not
be
done
necessarily
comprehensively
as
part
of
an
overarching
role
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
over
a
twenty
or
thirty
year
window.
Sure.
A
A
strategic
digital
language-
I
should
say
yeah
and
again
the
you
know
the
question
of
top
plan.
Are
you
making
your
comp
plan
amendments
in
between
prior
to
starting
the
ldc
changes?
Because
your
comp
plan
is
basically
an
overarching
document
that
helps
guide
your
lvc
and
lays
out
all
of
your
policies.
I
We
could
also
have
the
expert
we
hired
an
expert
consultant
who
specializes
in
ldcs
for
municipalities.
They
could
provide
us
with
gen
to
add
on
to
what
mike's
points
were.
They
could
also
add,
or
offer
us
generalized
recommendations
that
they
would
have
probably
been
making
to
any.
You
know
florida
municipality
that
has
an
lbc,
that's
a
little
outdated,
so
they
could
give
us
some
insight
as
to
general
topics
general
concepts
that
they
would.
You
know
upon,
reading
our
ldc
they
would
suggest.
I
Well,
I
can
see
here's
nine
ten
items
that
I
would
tell
you
right
now
that
I
can
start
to
work
on
in
a
general
form.
I
would
make
that
recommendation
any
city,
your
size,
coastal
city,
some
sort
of
generalized.
You
know
generalize
some
of
the
information
for
us
to
get
that
ball
rolling
and
also
what,
when
mike
said,
suggestions
that
council
has
any
of
the
vision.
Information
that
that
expert
has,
you
know
readily
available,
so
they
could
do
some
preliminary
work,
but
to
sink
us
deep
into
it
and
make
the
substantive
changes.
G
D
D
I
B
A
B
E
B
It
unless
we
get
two
volunteers.
Okay,
I
had
one
quick
item
not
looking
to
open
debate,
but
just
want
to
see
if
there's
a
consensus,
to
move
this
item
forward.
B
Some
of
you
might
have
been
approached
as
well
by
the
property
owner
in
town
slayman,
there's
a
shopping
center
that
currently
houses
kazoo,
sushi
burrito,
and
it's
right
next
to
graffiti
burger.
You
guys
know
what
I'm
talking
about
they've
been
approached
by
a
grocery
store
that
is
now
beginning
to
operate.
Liquor
stores-
I
do
not
know
the
name,
but
it's
a
chain
that
we
would
be
familiar
with.
B
However,
that
shopping
center
is
kind
of
on
the
outside
border
of
our
central
business
district
and
liquor
and
package
stores
are
not
a
allowable
use
in
that
district.
So
planning
department
has
asked
them
to
see
if
the
city
council
wants
to
take
it
forward
and
ask
the
staff
to
prepare
lbc
text
amendments.
So
basically,
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward,
I'm
not
advocating
a
position
on
this
at
all.
If
we
wanted
to
move
forward,
it
would
be
to
allow
liquor
stores
to
be
a
conditional
use
in
our
central
business
district.
B
So
this
would
impact
not
only
that
shopping
center,
but
the
entire
central
business
district.
So
that's
something
to
to
consider
the
other
option
would
be
to
rewrite
the
boundaries
of
the
central
business
district,
which
I
don't
I'm
not
recommending
it
staff's,
not
recommending
that.
That's
not
what
I'm
asking
about
so
is
any.
I
guess
nod
your
head.
If
you
feel
like
we
should
move
this
forward.
B
If
you're
interested
in
pursuing
a
change
in
the
and
allowing
a
liquor
store
to
be
conditional
using
the
central
business
district,
I
don't
see
any
nodding,
you
see
one,
oh
I'm
sorry
did
she
actually
have
that
on
earlier.
E
E
C
E
B
I
G
B
I
Absolutely
fine,
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
as
it's
not
an
item
that
was
actually
identified
on
our
public
notice
for
our
briefing
yes
ma'am.
I
don't
want
to
get
too
close
to
any
voting
on
an
item
that
wasn't
noticing
at
a
briefing
10-4.
Thank
you,
mayor.
C
I
thought
I
was
gonna
have
to
bring
this
to
you
as
a
problem,
but
I
think
it's
been
resolved,
but
I
was
contacted
by
a
citizen
and
miss
hoffman
you're,
the
only
one
who's
still
on
the
council,
who
was
on
the
council
in
2017,
there's
some
properties
in
on
colonies,
drive
that
were
plotted
on
the
landfill
and
as
part
of
that
plat,
we
had
a
environmental
attorney,
recommend
that
some
plaque
restrictions
be
added
to
the
plaque
restricting
wells
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
landfill,
and
we
recently
had
this,
and
so
the
wells
are
only
permitted
by
jacksonville,
not
by
us
and
jacksonville
permitted
well
on
one
of
those
properties.
C
Now,
at
this
point,
there's
a
weld
there,
that's
not
supposed
to
be,
and
that's
that's
another
whole
another
issue,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know,
because
I
was
thinking
we
were
going
to
have
to
as
a
council
try
to
get
some
movement
from
jacksonville
because
it
wasn't
getting
resolved.
But
then
today
I
I
got
some
information
from
the
environmental
quality
division
that
said
that
they
were
able
to
put
this
information
into
a
gis
layer
for
the
risk
model.
C
So
I
think
I
think
we're
okay,
but
anyway
that
was
passed
like
I
said
in
2017,
and
it
was
a
big
concern,
because
I
went
back
and
listened
to
the
city
council
meeting
and
it
was
a
big
concern
for
several
council
members
that
that
these
restrictions,
you
know
be
adhered
to,
and
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know.
So
if
anything
does
come
up
or
you
hear
anything
about
it
just
hopefully
we
hope
this
has
been
resolved.