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A
The
april
12
council
briefing,
we
have
a
handful
of
items
to
go
over
with
you
tonight,
I'm
going
to
take
items
one
and
two
and
actually
push
those
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
So
we
can
dive
right
into
some
of
the
more
important
items.
First,
not
that
the
first
two
aren't
important,
but
I
think
that
the
community
and
council
would
probably
like
to
start
with
number
three,
which
is
an
update
on
the
orange
crush
festival,
which
has
been
advertised
by
third-party
promoters
outside
of
our
area.
A
B
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council.
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
some
time.
I
know.
We've
all
had
y'all
have
had
some
questions
about
this
and
hopefully
we'll
get
a
bunch
of
questions
answered
tonight
for
you
and
those
who
are
on
tonight.
Listening
first
slide
next
slide
jacob.
Please.
B
Okay,
just
so
you
all
know,
this
is
the
civilian
quote:
unquote
version
of
the
this
briefing.
We
have
a
much
more
in-depth
tactical
and
intelligence
related
briefing
that
we're
doing
for
law
enforcement
only
and
certain
people
in
city
government,
and
all
that
is
if
anybody
has
any
50-foot
questions
or
tactical
questions
or
or
police
contingency
questions
I'll,
be
glad
to
answer
it
offline
tonight
or
another
day,
privately.
B
So
a
couple
things
we
I
learned
about
this
on
march,
the
7th,
so
we
are
plus
a
month
into
this
now
and
we
were
quietly
planning
it
first
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is,
I
felt-
and
we
felt
it
was
very
important
to
message
correctly
when
I
say
message
make
sure
the
employees
elected
officials,
city
government
were
all
on
the
same
sheet
of
music
and
that
we
communicated
this
to
the
participants
to
the
businesses
to
the
citizens.
B
So
we
got
a
consistent
message
and
I
really
really
am
very
pleased
with
the
way
this
has
worked
out,
because
I
think
everybody
involved
has
done
an
awesome
job
on
messaging.
I
can't
tell
you
how
it
positively
affected
everything
so
far
that
we've
done
so
a
couple
couple
things
I
want
to
cover
before
we
get
started,
we're
not
going
to
have
any
videos.
B
I
think
everybody's
seen
the
videos.
If
there's
any
questions,
all
you
got
to
do
is
go
to
youtube
and
google
tybee
island
orange,
crush
and
you'll
see
all
there
is
to
see
on
the
videos
that
monday
after
I
got
the
initial
heads
up
march,
the
9th
that
would
be.
I
immediately
called
chief
bryson
in
tybee
island
georgia,
and
we
had
a
long
talk.
B
He
said,
coincidentally,
he's
been
waiting
for
my
call
for
10
years
and
we
had
a
little
chuckle
and
he
wished
us
luck
and
said
anything.
We
need
he's
there
for
us.
He,
he
we
kind
of,
came
to
the
conclusion
that
we
needed
two
things
for
the
city.
B
One
is
to
be
consistent
with
the
message
and
the
rules.
Whatever
those
are,
they
have
drinking
in
public
in
tybee
island.
They
tried
to
ban
drinking
in
public
in
tybee
island
for
this
weekend
alone.
They
have
really
no
permitting
procedures.
They
tried
to
require
orange
crush
to
have
permitting
procedures,
so
they
weren't
really
being
consistent.
B
So
that's
the
one
thing
we
talked
about
and
the
second
point
I
would
like
to
do
throughout
this.
I
want
y'all
to
remember.
B
B
We
can
so
wherever
we
draw
the
line
and
say
this
is
where
people
are
going
to
start
going
to
jail.
We
got
to
be
ready
to
do
that.
We
cannot
let
this
get
out
of
hand
and
walk
away
from
that,
because
the
first
time
we
get
driven
away
from
a
crowd
and
we
can't
make
an
arrest
that
we
plan
on
making
we've
lost
control.
B
We've
also
talked
to
some
sources
in
miami
beach
and
learned
some
interesting
things
and
we'll
discuss
that
throughout
this
presentation-
and
I
would
like
to
say
I
talked
to
the
mayor
earlier-
she
said
we're
working
the
the
headline
somewhere
was
we're
working
with
the
promoter.
B
Well,
that's
probably
an
overstatement,
because
we've
had
one
meeting
and
two
phone
calls
and
we
haven't
received
no
plans
in
concrete.
What's
going
to
happen
so
working
with
is
probably
an
exaggeration.
We've
had
a
meeting
with
people
claiming
to
be
the
promoter
and
we
believe
they're.
They
are
indeed
the
promoter.
So
it's
all
very
fluid
right
now.
So
with
that
I'll
start
I'll
go
next
slide
jacob.
B
Okay,
we'll
start
from
the
beginning.
What
is
orange
crush?
It's
been
occurring
for
about
15
years,
the
last
10
years
it's
been
occurring
at
tybee
island
for
those
of
you
old
timers.
Like
me,
it's
a
break
off
of
freaknik,
which
used
to
be
held
in
atlanta.
B
A
rap
rap
music
week
or
weekend
in
atlanta
and
there's
been
one
in
miami
and
offshoots
mainly
have
gone
to
tybee
island,
and
it
draws
tens
of
thousands
of
people,
mainly
african
american,
high
school
kids,
that's
through
their
high
school
college
students,
that's
who
they're
targeting
it
originally
targeted.
Historically,
black
colleges
and
students,
it's
quote:
promotes
preservation
of
urban
culture,
entertainment,
media,
live
music
and
education,
etc.
B
As
best
we
can
tell
we've
done
a
lot
of
deep
end,
intel
dives
into
all
these
people,
and
this
is
who
was
the
we
found
to
be
the
main
promoter,
although
there's
other
people
claiming
to
be
in
charge
and
that's
part
of
our
problem
as
part
of
their
problem,
it's
not
part
of
our
problem,
so
he
claims
to
be
the
primary
promoter.
B
The
way
he
makes
his
money
is
most
of
these
events
are
free
and
he'll,
go
to
strip
clubs,
bars
and
say,
or
restaurants
or
whatever
business
and
say
I
brought
in
15
000
people.
You
pay
me
a
certain
amount
of
cash
I'll
make
sure
your
bar
is
advertised
in
all
our
orange
crush
activities
and
we'll
pack,
the
house
for
you
for
three
nights.
So
that's
how
he
makes
his
money.
B
He
was
arrested
in
tybee,
island
in
2019
and
the
event
was
cancelled
and
it
really
had
no
impact
on
the
number
of
participants
and
on
a
side
note,
chief
bryson
and
we
were
warned
to
watch
the
airbnbs
because
that's
where
the
house
parties
are
that's
where
the
back
in
the
neighborhoods
hundreds
of
people
matter
of
fact,
in
19
mikey
george
turner
was
arrested
at
an
open
house
party
at
airbnb
hundreds
of
people.
There
were
so
many
people
on
the
staircase
in
the
airbnb.
It
collapsed
the
staircase
and
caused
a
lot
of
damage.
B
So
airbnb's
is
the
second
piece
and
we're
addressing
that
and
letting
all
them
know
currently
in
the
mayor.
Mike
could
probably
give
you
more
information
so
most
of
the
crews
from
savannah
that
comes
down
some
from
atlanta
and
it's
been
kind
of
declining
in
the
last
couple
years
and
we
think
it's
because
best
we
can
tell
my
intel
guys,
can
tell
tybee
island
kind
of
took
a
hands-off
approach
into
the
last
two
three
four
years.
Then
they
really
stepped
up
enforcement.
B
You
can
tell
by
their
rest
numbers
and
that
kind
of
made
them
find
another
place.
So
next
slide,
please.
B
Okay,
I'm
not
going
to
go
too
much
into
stephen
smith.
He
came
in
and
saw
us
two
weeks
ago
and
he
claimed
to
be
in
charge
of
orange
crush
said
he
bought
the
rights
three
years
ago
and
that
mikey's
not
in
charge
anymore,
and
so
things
have
changed
even
since
we
created
this
powerpoint.
B
This
just
shows
you
we're
kind
of
not
sure
who's
in
charge,
and
that
explains
a
lot
of
the
confusion,
the
conflicting
statements.
There
really
is
no
events,
everybody
just
kind
of
shows
up
at
the
beach.
It's
not
really
organized
and
by
the
way,
they've
had
no
no
contact
with
any
promoters
in
years
past
tybee
reported,
but
because
of
our
messaging
and
the
pressure
we
put
on
them
with
social
media,
the
media,
everybody
online,
we
force
them
to
come
to
the
table
and
contact
us.
B
B
So
this
is
just
an
example
in
2019
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
was
was
seized
on
the
left,
bunch
of
guns,
a
bunch
of
weed
and
on
the
right,
a
bunch
of
weed
bunch
of
drugs.
Those
of
y'all
are
familiar.
I
told
you
atf
told
me
personally
that
in
northeast
florida
we
seized
more
guns
than
any
other
jurisdiction,
except
for
jso
that
includes
nassau,
county,
st
johns
county
clay,
county
and
all
the
police
departments,
and
it's
because
of
our
concentration
of
people
to
visit
our
city.
B
So
in
2019
I
said
they
kind
of
put
the
hammer
down.
They
had
81
arrests
by
the
way
tybee
island
has
about
15
officers.
They
bring
in
a
lot
from
georgia
state
patrol
gsp.
On
average,
there
are
40
to
60
arrests
every
day,
mostly
drug
possession.
Dui
there's
been
a
history
of
some
shootings,
a
lot
of
sexual
batteries,
property
crimes,
a
lot
of
traffic
problems,
also
sex
in
public
nudity
in
public
and
public
defecation.
B
Also
they
have
a
problems
with
you
can
see.
This
photo
pop-up,
pop-up
dance
contest,
twerk
contest.
This
is
there's
a
video
online.
This
is
in
the
middle
of
their
main
road
kind
of
like
their
first
tree,
four
or
five
or
eight
or
six
cars
will
stop
they'll
start
dancing
and
it
assembles
a
crowd
and,
of
course,
there's
problems
with
that.
B
B
Okay,
so
this
is
just
some
of
the
things
on
a
strategic
level
that
we're
looking
at
doing
treat
this
event
like
the
fourth
of
july,
from
a
enforcement
perspective,
for
instance,
on
the
fourth
of
july,
I
can't
arrest
every
single
person.
That's
got
a
red
solo
cup
drinking
in
public.
B
I
could
have
2
000
policemen,
I
still
couldn't
do
it
so
we're
going
to
decide
as
a
as
a
city
where
we're
going
to
draw
the
line
where
we're
going
to
make
physical
arrests-
and
I
made
some
suggestions
further
two
or
three
points
down,
but
we
want
a
large,
visible
presence,
or
at
least
that's
what
I'm
recommending,
and
we
want
the
three
beaches
agencies
to
be
the
face
of
this
from
an
enforcement
perspective,
of
course,
with
our
mutual
aid
partners,
which
we
have
already
been
in
talks
with
the
sheriff's
office,
I've
talked
to
the
sheriff
and
highway
patrol
colonel
personally
and
we're
getting
resources
for
them.
B
The
problem
is,
I
don't
know
really
what
to
expect
yet
so
we're
building
a
foundation.
For
instance,
we
reached
out
to
miami
beach.
They
arrested
a
thousand
50
people
in
the
first
week.
A
couple
weeks
ago
we
found
out
from
them
they
ran
out
of
female
police
officers
to
help
pat
down
and
process
all
the
female
arrestees.
B
So
that's
one
thing
we
learned
from
them.
Also
they,
the
use
of
pepper
ball
less
lethal
devices
very,
was
very
important
to
them.
So
we're
learning
from
that.
So
we
want
a
robust
traffic
piece.
We
want
a
robust
corrections
and
booking
and
a
rest
piece
and
we're
also.
B
As
you
know,
all
70
of
my
officers
are
trained
in
mobile
field
force.
We
have
that
our
officers,
but
I'm
also
getting
a
separate
field
force
contingent
that'll
be
parked
off
venue
standing
by
in
case
we
need
them.
So
those
are
some
of
the
examples
of
the
things
we're
doing,
which
is
pretty
extensive.
B
You
know
this
turned
in
from
this
turn
into
a
july
4th
in
jacks
beach
event,
planning
into
an
air
show
type
event:
gonna
have
a
full
command
post
up
and
running
and
everything
for
the
weekend.
B
So
some
of
the
things
that
I
suggest
we
get
strict
enforcement
on
is
violent.
Behavior
public
sex
urinating
in
public,
blatant
urinating
in
public
defecating,
public,
open
house
parties,
dui
and
other
blatant
violations
of
some
city
ordinances
at
state
law
and
remember
whatever
we
draw
the
line
with
we
have
to
enforce.
B
If
we
say
you
will
be
arrested,
if
for
sex
in
public,
we
have
to
be
ready
to
affect
those
arrests
at
all
costs,
we're
updating,
trespass
affidavits
on
all
the
abandoned
properties.
So
we
can
warn
people
we're
worried
about
pop-up
events
in
all
the
street
ends,
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
street
edge.
You
can
put
30
cars
in
there.
Someone
turns
up
a
stereo
and
boom.
B
It's
a
party
we're
also
getting
trespass
affidavits
for
properties
like
crystals
the
abandoned
crystals
that
has
trouble
written
all
over
it
and
we
might
even
work
with
the
business
owners
to
the
property
owners
to
put
some
barricades
in
some
of
those
private
lots.
B
We're
creating
a
plan
to
address
tailgating
cruising
parking
on
abandoned
properties,
an
issue
in
the
end
zones
which
I
talked
about
because
of
the
pop-up
events.
We've
notified
a
lot
of
businesses
already
the
mayor
and
has
done
a
real
good
job
of
the
messaging
we've
reached
out
to
the
business
owners,
the
hotels,
the
bars
the
restaurants
and
we're
starting
the
message
to
our
citizens.
B
That
I'll
tell
you
about
here
shortly,
I'm
concerned
about
some
milestones.
I
still
got
to
get
through
memorial
weekend
before
this
event
and
we're
tracking
and
noting
every
vacant
property
or
abandoned
property
with
any
parking
like
crystals
next
slide.
B
B
B
Okay,
these
are
some
issues
and
concerns.
We
got
why
we
think
we're
gonna
get
be
packed.
Five
to
ten
thousand
people
have
been
showing
up
for
this
event.
We
think
it
might
be
bigger
and
then
that,
on
top
of
our
already
slam
pack,
beach
crowd
for
any
weekend
from
march
through
october,
it's
slammed
out
there
anyway,
you
had
15
000
college
because
of
that,
and
that's
what
we're
expecting
and
there's
some
reasons:
florida's
fully
open
with
no
statewide
mandates.
B
We've
gotten
online
chatter
through
our
intel
sources
through
my
intel
detectives
that
people
oklahoma,
texas,
texas,
is
open,
but
as
far
as
far
away
from
michigan
virginia
we're
coming
to
this
event,
the
event
takes
place
on
juneteenth,
which
those
of
you
will
know
is
the
african-american
independence
day
and
it's
being
called
a
culture
and
preservation
event.
B
It's
freedom
day
or
emancipation
day
in
the
black
community
and
the
event
is
being
advertised
across
all
social
media
platforms
and
will
potentially
draw
a
large
crowd.
Chatham,
county
and
savannah
doesn't
have
near
the
number
of
residents
we
have.
We
have
a
million
plus,
and
we
are
the
epicenter
of
that
with
our
bars.
Our
beach
and
our
beautiful
city
every
weekend,
like
you
all,
know
what
we're
up
against
every
weekend.
B
On
top
of
that,
we
got
a
large
potential
population
and
the
word
is
that
we're
going
to
draw
start
drawing
people
from
south
florida
for
this
event
and
from
atlanta
so
and
the
big
concern,
I
told
you
I
was
going
to
talk
about
several
high-profile
civil
rights
cases
will
be
in
the
spotlight.
B
The
word
on
the
street
is
that
the
derek
shelvin
trial
in
minnesota
should
end
in
minneapolis
somewhere
beginning
in
may.
So
that's
going
to
play
a
part,
and
then
we
had
another
shooting
in
minnesota
last
night.
So
we're
very
concerned
about
that.
So
really,
there
is
an
extra
milestone
that
I
got
to
get
past,
that
myself
and
every
sheriff
and
chief
police
chief
in
every
metropolitan
area
is
concerned
about
and
that's
the
chauvin
trial,
the
the
the
brianna
taylor
trial,
the
armard
are
buried
trial
and
saint
mary's.
B
A
lot
of
these
things
are
playing
into
it.
On
top
of
the
just
a
climate
in
the
last
year,
between
policing
and
the
minority
community,
I'm
concerned
about
it
and
also
just
a
quick
note.
You
know
we
had.
We
mobilized
the
whole
department
four
times
last
year,
mobile
field
force.
If
somebody
would
have
told
me
that
up
before
2019,
I
would
have
laughed
at
you,
but
we
had
a
thousand
to
1200
people
for
black
lives
matter
protests
in
latham
plaza.
Now
they
were
very
easy
to
work
with.
They
were
they.
B
They
were
great
to
work
with,
and
non-violent
and
and
very
cooperative,
but
the
fact
that
we
had
a
thousand
to
1200
people
that
makes
it
one
of
the
bigger
events
in
northeast
florida.
So
we
have
that
potential.
We
also
mobilized
for
a
second
one.
B
I
think
would
be
a
little
naive.
So
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
shogun
trial
ending
in
about
may
maish,
as
is
every
police
chief
highway
patrol
chief
and
sheriff
in
the
country,
we're
worried
about
paid
parking.
We
expect
to
see
fights
and
arguments
over
parking
and
people
parking
wherever
they
can
on
sidewalks
lots
we're
even
worried
about
people
starting
to
park
in
latham
plaza,
and
then
we
got
to
tow
them
out
there
tell
them
out
of
there.
All
it's
going
to
take
is
four
or
five
cars
to
start
parking.
B
Everybody
pulls
in
and
we
got
a
problem.
So
that's
some
of
the
concerns
and
potential
issues
what's
not
on
here
is
our
and
I'm
not
our
homicide
rate,
and
I
think
mr
jansen
councilman
janssen
can
back
me
up
on
this.
We
lead
the
state
in
the
top
one
two
or
three
and
per
capita
homicides
in
the
third
most
populous
state
in
the
country.
B
Fourth,
most
populous
state
and
what
I'm
worried
about
is
a
gang
member
from
jacksonville,
which
we
do
get
at
coming
out
here
and
whistling
or
putting
their
hands
on
one
of
these
college
age,
females
they
slap
them
or
they
yell
back
or
one
of
their
male
friends.
Yells
back
and
one
of
our
gang
members
pulled
out
a
gun
and
started
shooting
very
concerned
about
the
the
handgun
violence,
the
potential
because
they've
had
them
at
tybee.
Before
now,
you
put
it
with
some
hardcore
gang
members
in
jacksonville
with
a
high
homicide
rate.
B
Okay
predictions:
this
is
based
on
our
intel,
and
this
is
our
best
guess.
As
of
today,
we
expect
between
five
and
ten
thousand
people,
maybe
fifteen
thousand
peak
attendance
will
be
on
saturday.
Traffic
will
be
extremely
heavy,
with
drivers
looking
for
parking
and
people
cruising
first.
Second
and
third
street
traffic
will
be
affected
by
driver
stopping
for
attention.
B
There'll
be
fights
over
parking
spots,
there'll
be
a
mixture
and
crowds
between
college
vacationers,
beach,
local
event,
participants,
jacksonville
residents
and
potential
gang
members,
we're
looking
for
a
large
amount
of
arrests
and
a
large
increase
for
calls
for
service
for
police
fire
and
rescue
departments.
Next
slide,
please.
B
B
the
beach
was
destroyed.
First
street
was
there
their
first
street
was
trash.
They
had
to
bring
in
a
front
end
loader.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
police
and
some
city
employees
started
going
down
there.
Picking
up
the
mess
and
a
bunch
of
tourists,
went
to
the
local
publix
or
wherever
and
bought
trash
bags,
and
a
bunch
of
the
tourists
that
came
and
helped
clean
up
the
beach.
After
and
there's
a
video
that
starts
off
with
the
still
next
slide,
please,
this
is
some
of
the
messaging
that
we
came
up
with.
B
B
One
thing
I
do
want
to
add
and
next
slide
please.
B
Before
I
get
take
questions
there,
there
is
some
good
news,
I'm
getting
people
calling
me
do.
I
leave
town,
I'm
getting
crazy
comments
or
questions.
B
What
I
tell
my
people
is
and
the
only
way
I
can
put
it
to
you
plainly
because
I'm
a
plain
talking
guy
is,
I
suggest,
everybody
kind
of
back
it
down
a
notch
or
two
there's
no
room
to
panic.
We
are
prepared,
as
we
can
be
we're
preparing
more
daily.
I
think
we'll
come
out
of
this
okay,
I
am
concerned,
but
I'm
not
panicked.
I
I
think
we'll
do
well.
We've
done
a
good
job
preparing
and
discussing
this
with
everybody
involved.
B
I
just
want
to
back
down
the
rhetoric
and
cool
down
the
rhetoric
a
little
because
we're
not
there
yet
we're
not
at
broken
arrow
or
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
We're
fine,
we're,
prepared
and
we'll
be
prepared.
There's
some
good
news.
We
are
very
good
at
dealing
with
large
crowds.
We
deal
with
50
000
people
out
here
with
15
or
20
officers.
The
same
way,
other
police
departments
have
one
or
200
officers
out.
We
do
it
with
15
or
20
officers.
B
So
we
are
very
good
at
crowd,
control
and
we'll
have
double
or
triple
that
out
every
day,
we're
we're
real
experienced
with
it,
and
I
was
warned
about
mutual
aid.
We
get
the
right
kind
of
officer
that
come
in
here
and
can
talk
to
people
it
can
handle
themselves
and
take
enforcement
action
if
necessary.
B
We
have
an
excellent
experience
with
hurricanes
and
special
event
planning
because
of
our
influx
of
people
and
our
storms
that
we've
had.
We
have
an
excellent
planning
cycle.
We
we
have
a
routine
down.
We
know
what
are
our
pressure
points
when
we're
going
to
be
busiest?
What
days
of
the
week,
what
hours
of
the
day
where
our
vulnerable
areas
are
like
crystals
parking
lot
we're.
We
got
a
great
reputation
with
our
mutual
aid
agencies.
Like
I
said,
I've
talked
to
the
sheriff
sheriff's
assistant,
a
two-star
chief
at
jso.
B
I've
also
talked
to
the
colonel
the
highway
patrol
the
other
beaches
chiefs,
and
they
are
very
confident
that
we're
gonna
set
everybody
up
for
success
so
that
that's
kind
of
our
advantages,
and
I
think
we
do
it
really
well
and
we've
done
it
a
lot
with
special
events
on
where
we've
proven
we
can
pull
off
large
special
events.
B
You
know
we're
a
full
service
agency.
I
have
70
trained
mobile
field
force
officers
that
have
deployed
four
times
last
year,
which
is
pretty
good.
I
have
a
full
swat
team
tactical
unit.
I
got
lots
of
experienced
officers,
experi
experienced
intel
detectives,
they
know
how
to
get
on
social
media.
They
know
how
to
really
drill
down
and
get
that
information.
B
We've
partnered
with
atf's
on
board
dea
is
on
board.
Ncis
is
on
board.
Fbi
is
on
board,
so
we've
already
had
meetings
with
all
them
and
and
really
the
last
thing
I'll
add
is
I'll,
say
it
again.
B
The
unified
message
from
the
three
mayors
and
from
the
three
city
managers
has
been
absolutely
a
steamroller
for
us
in
a
good
way.
It
has
forced
the
promoters
to
come
to
the
table.
It
has
got
us
all
on
the
same
page
as
a
community,
not
just
the
city
of
jacks
beach,
but
the
other
two
beaches,
cities
and
as
a
county
it
it
there's
been
no
stray
messaging
where
someone
would
get
confused
because
one
elected
official
said
this.
Another
elected
official
said
that
we
have
been
consistent
from
the
beginning.
This
is
not
a
permitted
event.
B
We
have
been
consistent
from
the
beginning,
obey
the
rules
and
you
can
come
here.
We've
been
consistent
from
the
beginning
of
here's.
What
we
expect
from
you,
as
here
are
the
rules
for
festivals
and
for
behavior,
so
I
I'll
I'll
turn
it
over
to
questions
and
any
comments
from
the
mayor
or
mike
or
questions
for
me.
B
A
Thank
you,
chief
smith.
I
think
we'll
just
dive
right
into
questions.
I
see
council
member
jansen
has
his
hand
raised.
So
we'll
start
with
him.
C
I
guess
this
question
is
more
for
you
mike,
I
guess
in
a
worst-case
scenario,
situation
I'm
sure
the
conversation's
been
had
that
we
can
talk
about
a
curfew
if
we
need
to
enact
something
like
that,
or
maybe
the
closure
of
the
beaches
or
a
moratorium
on
alcohol
sales
in
a
last-minute
ditch
effort
to
slow
things
down,
if
necessary.
A
We've
had
those
conversations,
impromptu,
they're,
actually
all
options,
obviously
that
are
on
the
table,
but,
as
chief
smith
said,
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
be
panicked
at
this
point
in
time,
and
I
don't
think
we
are
there
was
there
was
some
thoughts
about.
I
think
you
heard
chief
say:
chief
smith
say
you
know,
people
saying,
should
I
leave
town,
should
I
board
things
up,
etc,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
big
portion
of
this
community
that
takes
the
opposite
approach.
A
A
We
don't
have
a
problem
with
you
coming
and
sitting
shoulder
by
shoulder
with
us
at
the
beach,
but
the
residents
and
the
business
owners
will
also
hold
you
in
check
and
make
sure
that
you
play
by
the
rules,
and
I
think
that
the
message
is
getting
out
to
all
of
the
business
owners
and
I
think
the
the
business
owners
and
the
residents
will
make
sure
that
people
for
the
most
part
remain
in
check,
which
will
be
a
good
thing.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
tools
in
our
toolbox.
A
D
Mike,
thank
you
appreciate
all
the
effort
y'all
putting
into
this
chief
smith
great
job.
I
have
no
doubt
that
we'll
we'll
be
you'll
be
ready
for
this
event.
You
know
with
the
numbers
that
we
have.
You
know
I
try
to
let
everybody
know
you
know
we're
concerned
about
it.
We're
used
to
handling
events
that
are
bring
50
000.
D
You
know
even
more
than
that
on
a
weekend,
and
you
know
a
typical
we
get
more
than
that
on
a
typical
weekend.
So
you
know
I
my
my
main
concern
is
with
short-term
rentals
and
it
would
be
nice
if
they
were
all
registered
in
our
program.
So
then
we'd
have
a
way
to
communicate
directly
with
them,
but
the
company
that
we
hired,
that
is,
that
is
working
with
them.
Have
we
thought
about?
You
know
communicating
through
them
to
get
it
out
to
people
that
are
participating
in
short-term
rentals.
A
We
have,
I
know
director.
A
Ireland
is
on
the
on
the
call
listening
as
well,
but
that's
something
that
she
and
I
just
talked
about
a
little
bit
earlier
today
and
I
know
the
mayor
and
I
have
had
the
conversation
with
the
chief
over
the
past
week
or
so
we
are
looking
at
producing
some
materials
to
go
out
to
the
stdrs
within
our
jurisdiction
and
for
the
most
part,
it's
it's
to
push
out
that
issue
of
the
beach
rules
for
the
summer,
not
just
for
one
particular
event,
but
for
anybody
who's
coming
to
our
jurisdiction.
A
We
want
them
to
have
copies
that
that
go
to
the
individuals
before
they
ever
get
here
into
jacks
beach.
It
would
be
great
if
it
was
taped
up
on
the
refrigerator
door
in
the
stbr,
so
that
people
who
show
up
they
look
at
that
bullet
list,
and
they
say
these
are
all
the
do's
and
don'ts
of
having
a
vacation
in
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
or
any
of
the
three
beach
communities.
D
Absolutely-
and
I
I
think
the
messaging
has
been
good,
I
mean
you
know
we're
we're
a
community,
that's
open
to
everybody,
and
you
know
we
just
want
you.
We
want
it
to
be
respectful
and
you
know
we
do
have
to
take
into
consideration
the
safety
and
security
of
of
the
residents
and
the
business
owners
in
jacksonville
beach.
And
but
you
know
we're
open
for
business
and
you
know
we
want
people
to
come.
We
want
people
to
be
safe
and
and
enjoy
themselves
and
and
spend
money
and
come
back
so.
But
I
appreciate
all
the
effort.
E
Yes,
chief
smith,
mike
good
job
on
this,
I
agree,
I
think
we'll
be
okay,
but
I
do
have
concerns
and
my
business
is
right
in
downtown
and
we've
been
open
six
years
and
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
conflicts,
especially
spring
and
summer,
and
the
concern
right
now
that
has
been
shared
with
me,
not
just
by
my
employees
but
other
employees
of
other
restaurants
and
bars,
is
the
parking.
E
Are
they
going
to
be
safe,
walking
around?
Are
there
or
they're
gonna
have
to
park
far
away?
There's
gonna
be
a
shuttle.
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
night
you
know
most
of
these
people
are
walking
around
with
two
three
five
hundred
dollars
in
cash
at
the
end
of
the
night.
E
So
that's
their
concern
right
now
and
I'm
just
trying
to
share
with
you
chief
just
to
keep
you
in
the
loop
of
what
some
of
these
bartenders
and
wait
staff
have
been
telling
me.
The
second
thing
is,
I
know
I
have
a
picture
I
haven't.
I
don't
know
why
I
haven't
showed
you
guys,
but
a
couple
about
a
month
ago
there
was
two
jeeps
on
the
parking
here:
the
ritz
parking
lot.
E
They
were
blurry
music.
I
think
these
jeeps
had
maybe
five
speakers.
There
were
loud
block
traffic
and
I
know
you're
gonna
have
officers
all
over
the
area.
E
How
are
you
guys
going
to
proceed
if
you
guys
have
multiple
situations
around
jack's
beach,
because
I
know
we're
gonna
have
we're
gonna
face
problems
at
our
businesses
when
we're
denying
people
for
not
having
the
proper
dress
code
and
I've
called
pd
before
where
people
were
people
trying
to
get
physical?
How?
How
are
we
going
to
handle
the
mass
influx
of
calls
well
on
this
weekend.
B
It's
hard
for
me
to
answer
hypotheticals,
but
I
can't
answer
generally
we're,
hopefully,
where
we
are
going
to
have
plenty
of
people
down
in
the
box,
I'm
going
to
have
all
70
of
my
people
down
in
downtown
and
probably
with
some
mutual
aid
officers
from
daytona
beach,
because
they're
familiar
with
dealing
with
spring
break
crowds
and
stuff.
B
So
we
will
be
there
when
you
call
now,
I
I
traffic
is
going
to
be
horrendous.
We're
planning
on
getting
around
on
atvs,
even
possibly
transporting
prisoners
to
the
forward
booking
area
and
atvs
traffic
is
going
to
be
a
no-go
parking's
going
to
be
a
no-go.
It's
going
to
be
a
mess.
B
If
you
need
us,
we
will
be
there.
The
only
thing
I
can
tell
you
is,
and
this
kind
of
goes
with
mr
jansen's
question:
you
know
we
we
have
a
category
a
tropical
storm
near
miss
and
we've
got
a
category
five
coming
straight
at
us
and
we
have
a
whole
menu
of
options.
B
When
we
deal
with
hurricanes
from
the
near
miss
on
a
tropical
storm
to
category
five
coming
straight
at
us,
we
will
have
a
menu
of
options.
Everything
from
it's.
It's
a
rainy
weekend
and
nobody
shows
up
and
there's
ten
people
on
the
beach
till
two.
It's
the
busiest
fourth
of
july
or
busiest
event.
We've
ever
seen
all
the
way
up
to
civil
disturbance.
B
We
will
have
those
menu
of
options.
Now
I
can.
I
guarantee
anybody's
safety.
Of
course
I'm
not
going
to
sit
here
and
do
that
y'all.
I
would
lose
all
credibility
if
I
guaranteed
everybody
was
going
to
be
safe.
Am
I
guaranteed
nobody's
going
to
commit
any
crimes
or
pull
a
gun
or
get
hurt?
I
can't
guarantee
that
and
I
think
I
would
lose
credibility
with
you
all.
B
If
I
did
all
I
can
tell
you
is
we
are
prepared
to
mitigate
it
as
much
as
humanly
possible,
knowing
that
one
of
our
shootings,
a
few
years
ago
before
this
council
came
on
on
got
elected,
was
on
the
boardwalk
and
an
officer
was
there
in
eight
to
ten
seconds.
B
But
mr
meza,
to
answer
your
question:
we're
seeing
historic
crowds
anecdotally
now
on
busy
weekends
because
of
post
covid
everybody
trying
to
get
outside,
there's
been
a
paradigm
shift
that
people
aren't
staying
home
and
watch
tv
anymore,
they're
getting
out
and
doing
stuff.
So
we
think
we're
seeing
the
biggest
crowds
in
a
very
long
time,
and
it's
going
to
be
fourth
of
july,
a
busy
fourth
of
july.
That's
what
we're
looking
at
and
and
that
I
can
get.
I
can
almost
guarantee
you
that
and
that's
all
the
answers
I
can
give
you
right
now.
E
Okay
and
just
one
last
thing
to
mayor
huffman,
I
know
and
you've
sat
down
with
mike
and
talk
about
the
curfew
and
corey
nichols
brought
it
up.
Personally,
we
will
be
fine
if
you
guys
were
to
set
up
a
curfew
last
minute
in
case
things
get
out
of
hand
just
want
you
to
know
that
some
of
these
businesses
will
be
behind
you
and
supported
if
it
comes
to
it.
So
just
letting
you
guys
know.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
meza,
and
I
just
want
to
it's
too
early
to
start
commending
people,
but
I
do
want
to
commend
chief
smith
for
jumping
right.
On
top
of
this,
once
we
started
getting
information
about
the
event,
putting
a
team
together
and
doing
a
lot
of
homework
even
before
the
public
started
to
get
wind
of
this
event.
So
I'm
going
to
say
event
because,
although
it's
promoting
itself
as
a
festival,
this
is
a
guerrilla
marketing
tactic.
F
That
is
just
designed
to
bring
a
lot
of
people
into
one
community
and
that's
you
know
kind
of
that
first
messaging,
wave
that
we
had
to
really
get
out
there
to
our
community
and
it
worked
very
well.
So
we've
got
a
really
good
team
on
it.
As
far
as
the
steps
and
procedures
law
enforcement
wise,
I
trust
that
team.
I
trust
the
resources
that
have
been
pulled
together
to
specifically
handle
this
weekend,
but
quite
frankly,
it's
every
weekend.
F
It's
even
just
two
weeks
ago,
when
we
had
really
great
weather,
we
are
already
seeing
record
crowds
so
that
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
right
now.
We
need
to
do
anyway
and
the
rules
that
you
saw
come
out.
I
hope
that
you
guys
all
would
share
them
across
your
your
facebook
pages
and
things
like
that,
because
these
are
things
we
had
a
really
weird
year
guest
last
year
and
we
need
to
kind
of
get
back
into
normal
operations
of
the
beaches.
F
I
also,
I
know
you
guys
know
we
started
the
downtown
hospitality
business
owner
meeting
it
couldn't
have
come
at
a
better
time.
Our
second
meeting
of
that
group
was
the
day
after
the
three
mayors
received
the
briefing
from
the
police
department,
so
we
were
able
to
provide
them
not
quite
at
this
level
of
detail
but
provide
all
of
the
business
owners
at
the
same
time
a
briefing
and
let
them
ask
questions,
and
we
will
have
two
more
of
those
meetings
between
now
and
orange,
crush
weekly.
F
We
also
had
a
separate
call
with
the
hotels
at
the
north
end
of
the
beach,
so
we're
trying
to
be
ahead
of
the
game
to
communicate
openly
and
effectively,
but
also
know
that
this
is
a
fluid
situation,
but
I
think
for
for
our
part,
for
the
council,
for
city
staff,
etc.
Communicating
with
the
residents
and
with
the
business
owners
is
is
the
important
role
to
play
at
this
point,
and
the
other
thing
I
have
not.
I've
responded
to
every
citizen,
email
and
every
one
of
them.
F
I
provide
a
link
to
our
police
department,
facebook
page
and
to
our
city's
facebook
page,
because
we
need
people
to
start
going
to
the
source
for
the
most
up-to-date
information
for
this
and
everything
else.
So,
if
you
guys
can
can
join
me
in
doing
that,
I
think
that
will
help
overall
now
with
hurricanes
with
any
other
future
events
as
we're
trying
to
get
consistent
messaging
out
to
our
community.
A
And
as
as
this
continues
to
evolve
and
change,
we
may
obviously
do
additional
briefings
with
council
between
now
and
the
end
of
june,
when
the
event
is
scheduled,
we'll
just
see
what
changes
between
now
and
the
next
week
or
two
and
provide
updates
as
necessary.
Thank
you.
Chief
smith,
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
we'll
dive
into
item
4
on
the
agenda,
which
is
board
appointment,
process
review
we've,
provided
you
some
information
as
a
little
bit
of
background.
A
I
know
that
those
have
been
typically
held
in
person
and
during
the
work
day,
and
we
don't
always
have
a
high
rate
of
attendance
by
the
sitting
council
members
and
then
the
second
would
be
the
actual
appointment
process.
I
think
when
we
had
the
conversation
at
a
council
meeting
a
couple
council
members
suggested:
was
it
possible
to
have
a
conversation
in
a
pre-meeting
or
in
a
briefing
prior
to
bringing
candidates
forward
for
consideration?
A
So
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
to
the
council
for
discussion,
we
do
also
have
laurie
scott,
our
city
clerk
on
the
line
as
well,
and
we
will
try
his
best
to
answer
your
questions
and
help
assist
you
in
making
decisions
on
any
changes
to
this
process.
G
Thank
you
mike,
so
I
really
think
it's
important
that
we
look
at
maybe
changing
when
we
do
these
interviews.
G
These
people
are
going
to
be
serving
on
our
boards
in
the
evening
and
why
not
interview
them
in
the
evening
when
it
may
be
more
possible
for
the
other
council
members
to
attend,
because
I
mean
I
I'm
able
to
attend.
Sometimes
you
know
with
my
work
schedule,
but
I
mean
it's.
I
can
understand
how
it's
hard
for
the
other
council
members
to
to
attend
and
I
really
think
it's
important
for
the
council
members
to
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
what
the
candidates
have
to
say.
G
G
Yeah,
I
I
can't
remember
my
other
point,
but
anyway
I
think
that's
the
main
thing
that
I
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
is
try
to
make
these
interviews
be
at
a
time
when
the,
when
the
other
council
members
have
a
better
chance
of
being
able
to
be
there.
D
I
believe
we're
done
in
the
past,
but
is
there
anything
that
precludes
us
from
doing
these
meetings
virtually
seems
like
it'd
be
easier
on
the
on
the
candidates,
and
you
know,
especially
if
we're
gonna
do
it
during
the
day.
It's
a
lot
easier
to
take
out
take
out
some
time
during
the
day
on
a
virtual
call
then
then
hit
a
meeting
during
the
during
the
day.
A
I
don't
believe
there
is
anything
that
restricts
you
from
having
this
as
a
virtual
meeting.
The
state
statute
with
regards
to
in-person
meetings
is
specific
to
voting
items
or
taking
action.
So
as
long
as
you're
interviewing
the
candidates,
I
believe
you
would
be
okay,
you
just
couldn't
make
any
decisions
with
regards
to
the
candidates
you
interviewed
during
those
virtual
calls.
You'd
have
to
wait
until
you're
in
person.
F
Thank
you.
I've
said
this
before
I
think
with
this
council.
We've
come
a
long
way
in
this
process
and
I'm
really,
I
think,
we're
getting
really
close
to
it.
A
nicely
finessed
process,
but
I
can't
put
my
fingers
on
it
right
now,
but
some
of
the
write-up
of
the
process
was
a
little
more
reactive
waiting
for
an
opening
than
doing
the
interviews,
and
I
think
we
are
taking
a
more
proactive
stance
at
this
point.
F
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
pick
a
time
of
year
where
we're
doing
the
interviews
so
that
we're
we're
taking
in
applications
all
year.
We
do
the
interviews,
perhaps
right
after
we
approve
the
budget,
and
that
way
I
think,
we've
gotten
almost
everyone
on
to
an
end
of
the
calendar
year
term
end.
So
if
we
have
a
bunch
of
interviewed
qualified
candidates
at
that
point
between
the
interviews
and
the
meeting
where
we
do
the
appointments,
we
can
have
a
briefing
where
we
go
through
and
put
together
our
slate
of
appointments.
F
F
You
know
a
week
where
maybe
we
have
three
interview
times
and
maybe
we
do
them
at
different
times
of
the
day
and
people
can
sign
up
for
what
their
availability
is.
I
like
the
idea
of
keeping
them
on
zoom,
but
maybe
we
do
a
lunch
time.
Maybe
we
do
an
early
afternoon
or
late
afternoon
and
early
evening,
and
people
can
sign
up
for
whatever
the
time
is
appropriate.
F
There's
always
the
opportunity
that
someone
needs
to
resign
from
a
board
mid-term
and
we
can
do
a
mid-term
interview
if
we
need
to.
But
if
we
do
this
right,
we
should
have
a
list
of
qualified
candidates
that
we
can
move
into
that
position
because
we're
keeping
their
applications
good
for
two
years.
So
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
would
need
to
do
an
emergency
interview
or
an
emergency
appointment,
but
we
certainly
can.
If
we
need
to-
or
I
guess
the
appointment
would
be
kind
somewhat
emergency,
but
the
interview
should
be
done
once
a
year.
A
Thank
you
mayor.
Do
we
have
any
other
comments
from
council
council
member
stokes.
H
A
lot
of
really
good
ideas,
my
biggest
one
is:
I
fully
support
a
discussion
and
a
briefing
ahead
of
the
council
meeting
where
we're
gonna
vote.
It
was
after
just
coming
on
to
council
in
november
and
then
doing
these
board
appointments
in
december.
We
never
got
to
discuss
any
of
these
individuals
and
then
to
do
it
during
motions
and
and
having
to
motion
to
discuss
and
table
and
and
re-table
or
postpone,
and
it
just
to
me
it
was
it
was.
H
You
know,
a
slightly
messy
process
just
because
we
didn't
have
the
chance
to
discuss
any
of
these
people
and
it-
and
these
are
very
big
appointments.
Cra
adjustment,
I'm
forgetting
another
one
planning
planning
yeah
and
you
know
to
to
not
have
the
ability
to
discuss
ahead
of
time
in
a
sunshine
open
forum
was
was
very
tough.
So
I
fully
that's
the
one
I
fully
support
over.
Everything
is
is
get
a
discussion
ahead
of
time
where
we
can
can
do
that.
A
Counselor
mayor
kaufman,
I
see
your
hand
is
still
up.
Is
that
a
carryover.
C
A
So
if
I,
if
I
synthesize
each
of
the
individual
comments,
I
just
heard
how
do
y'all
feel
about
picking
a
week
right
after
the
budget
adoption
to
pick
multiple
times
and
days
of
the
week
for
holding.
Maybe
one
in
person
and
two
virtual
interviews
followed
up
with
a
council
briefing
in
november
to
discuss
the
process
followed
by
the
appointments
in
december.
C
Long
way
around
absolutely
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
the
way
that
you
know
it's
going
to
flow
to
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
candidates
when
we
get
to
that
point,
so
you
know
heavy
on
the
advertising.
You
know
word
of
mouth.
That
would
be
appreciative,
but
I
think
it
sounds
wonderful,
especially
like
the
fact
that
we
have
interview.
A
What
what
we
will
do
at
this
point
is
get
a
week
that
we
send
out
to
the
council
members
to
see
what
your
availability
would
be
in
advance,
particularly
if
we
have
let's
say
one
virtual
meeting
in
the
evening.
One
virtual
meeting
in
the
afternoon
and
a
lunch
interview
scheduled
with
some
of
the
candidates
we'd,
want
to
make
sure
that
we
could
have
not
just
a
majority,
but
all
council
members
participate,
if
possible.
A
So
we'll
start
taking
a
look
at
the
calendars
for
the
month
of
september
and
october
and
start
floating
some
dates
out
to
you
to
make
sure
that
we
pick
a
week
with
days
and
times
that
are
suitable
to
a
majority
of
council
that
sound
like
a
good
idea
as
a
starting
point:
okay,
fantastic!
A
What
we
wanted
to
do
with
council
was
a
make
sure
that
you
are
comfortable
with
the
dates
that
are
being
selected
for
the
meetings:
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
handful
of
them
that
are
basically
supplanting
council
briefings,
which
I
felt
was
adequate
to
do.
Given
the
fact
that
we
are
on
a
time
schedule
with
the
charter
review,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
this
wrapped
up
in
language
drafted
before
may
1st
for
transmittal
to
the
supervisor
of
elections.
A
I
think
that
that's
the
easiest
way
to
involve
mr
shepard
in
the
process
and
also
the
council
I
know-
has
has
thought
that
this
process
has
worked
pretty
well
so
far
with
withholding
our
equivalence
of
briefings
and
workshops
from
a
virtual
perspective.
F
The
schedule
looks
good
to
me,
and
I
think
cliff
shepard
did
a
really
good
job
kind
of
explaining
his
thoughts
and
on
the
process.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
that
have
we
looked
at
the
plan
for
the
budget
meetings,
though,
because
I
know
august
is
a
very
busy
time
for
that.
Have
we
tried
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
room
for
everything,
you're,
muted,.
A
Anyone
else
with
feedback
on
days
times
and
format,
councilor
meza,
follow
councillor
golden.
E
Looking
at
the
dates
in
august,
the
I
know
that
thursday
and
you
s,
are
we
doing
these
virtually?
Are
we
meeting
in
person.
G
A
Anyone
else
with
feedback
on
that
item.
If
not,
I
think
we're
going
to
be
locked
and
loaded
and
ready
to
go
with
our
first
meeting
here
at
the
end
of
april,
coming
up
in
the
next
two
weeks.
B
A
There's
a
total
of
five
committees,
they're
made
up
of
elected
officials
and
appointed
officials
and
florida
league
staff
representation
from
across
the
entire
state
of
florida,
and
they
participate
in
a
series
of
meetings
which
usually
take
place
in
orlando
in
order
to
help
identify
the
florida
league
of
cities,
priorities
that
they
use.
As
talking
points
and
lobbying
points
with
elected
officials
for
the
upcoming
legislative
session.
A
A
What
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
was
put
this
information
to
you
with
a
little
bit
more
formality
and
with
a
little
bit
more
background
information
and
see
if
there
was
a
desire
from
any
of
the
other
elected
officials
to
sign
on
to
the
florida
league.
For
this
particular
event,
if
you
aren't
prepared
to
make
a
decision
tonight,
that's
okay
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
either
me
or
chris
wright,
if
you're
interested
in
registering,
and
we
can
see
about
helping
you
get
on
the
individual
committee
that
you'd
like
to
participate
in.
A
A
D
A
Utilities,
natural
resources
and
public
works
and
the
description
on
that
is
coastal
management,
energy,
environmental
and
wetlands
permitting
hazardous
and
toxic
wastes;
recycling,
solid
waste
collection
and
disposal,
storm
water,
waste,
water
treatment
and
reuse,
water
management
and
water
quality
and
quantity.
D
Sounds
good
yeah,
the
transportation
one
I
would.
I
would
would
not
have
a
problem
participating
in
that
and
you
know
if
I,
if
we
don't
get
the
other
ones
filled
up,
I
might
be
able
to
do
the
other
one
as
well.
H
I
went
ahead
and
signed
up
today.
My
first
choice
was,
let
me
go
to.
It
was
the
land
use
and
economic
development
I'd
really
like
to
get
on
that
one.
I've
got
a
little
bit
of
background
in
land
usage,
so
I
feel
like
I
could
be
a
good
asset
for
that
one.
So
that
would
be
my
first
choice.
H
I
had
to
note
all
five
of
them
in
an
order,
so
I've
got
them
all
on
there,
but
I
really
would
just
want
to
do
the
land
use
and
I
mean
I'd
be
willing
to
do
something
else,
but
I
feel
like
I
could
be
a
big
asset
for
that
one.
So.
E
Chet
stokes
picked
the
one
that
was
number
one
for
me:
the
land
use
in
economic
development,
the
second
one
that
I
was
that
caught
my
eye
was
the
finance
taxation
and
personnel.
A
I
think
council,
member
golding,
found
that
there
were
a
handful
of
elected
officials
from
other
portions
of
the
state
that
she
was
able
to
contact
on
other
various
issues
during
the
course
of
the
last
year,
just
to
bounce
different
things
off
of
to
see
how
they're
handling
things
I
know,
I
do
it
with
the
appointed
officials
from
other
jurisdictions
as
well.
So
hopefully,
this
is
something
that,
as
you
go
through,
this
year's
legislative
policies
you'll
find
to
be
a
positive,
not
just
on
one
front
but
on
many
fronts.
A
Let's
go
with
number
two
first,
and
that
is
the
committee
assignment
reports.
A
I
know
that
a
couple
of
months
ago,
several
of
the
elected
officials
were
basically
appointed
by
the
rest
of
council
to
be
representatives
for
things
that
were
happening
around
the
area
or
around
the
state,
and
this
would
be
an
opportunity
for
those
individuals
to
report
out
to
the
rest
of
council
if
there
have
been
any
meetings
or
any
actions
that
have
taken
place
say
in
the
last
month
or
two
that
you
feel
that
the
other
seven
need
to
know
the
other
six
need
to
know
about.
A
So
with
that,
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
has
any
information
they
want
to
share.
With
regard
to
that,
I
see
mayor
pro
tem
nichols
has
his
hand
raised.
D
I
attended
the
tpo
meeting
this
past
week
and
it
looks
like
the
funding
got
approved
for
for
penman,
oh
for
the
crop,
for
the
crossings
on
a1a
that
that
funding
got
approved,
and
there
was
one
other
one.
D
I'm
gonna
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that,
because
my
note
card
is
not
in
front
of
me,
but
two
price2a1a
jacksonville
city
of
jacksonville
beach
vicinity
projects
were
approved.
H
Okay,
I've
had,
I
was
thankful
to
to
do
some
of
the
blue
zones
work
and
I've
had
two
calls
was
in
the
midst
of
preparing
a
little
write-up
when
the
last
couple
weeks
kind
of
happened,
so
I'm
a
little
behind
and
I
apologize,
but
I
talked
with
nadja
burnetch
apologize
if
I
mispronounced
her
name
she's
with
the
blue
zones.
H
National
food
policy
team
talked
with
her
about
restaurants,
grocery
stores,
kind
of
just
the
the
food
scene
in
jacksonville
beach
and
how
that
relates
to
the
blue
zones
policies.
And
then
I
had
a
really
fun
call
and
let
me
pull
up
this
guy.
H
I
got
to
speak
with
dan
burden
which,
if
you
haven't
heard
of
him,
he's
got
more
than
40
years
of
experience
in
3
500
communities,
creating
more
livable,
bikeable
and
walkable
communities.
Really
I
don't
know
I
was
kind
of.
I
didn't
really
know
who
I
was.
H
H
Oh
wow,
this
guy's
been
all
over
the
country
and
he
was
really
thrilled
with
some
of
the
projects
that
we
will
be
undertaking
things
that
we've
already
discussed
the
greenways,
creating
a
better
transportation
outside
the
vehicle
for
for
members
of
the
community
to
go
around
the
the
community.
So
I've
got
a
really
interesting
write-up
for
him
and
a
lot
about
what
blue
zones
can
help
the
help
us
with
from
both
the
legislative
policy
side
and
a
lot
of
the
grunt
work
that
they
do
a
lot.
H
They
do
a
lot
of
research
for
us
which
is
great
and
then
they
kind
of
they
don't.
You
know,
obviously
don't
do
any
of
the
legislative
policy
stuff,
but
they
do
a
lot
of
research
for
us
and
then
try
to
help
us
get
these
things
off.
The
ground
and
getting
grant
money
and
finding
things
that
can
help
this
project
as
a
whole
and
overall,
the
blue
zones
hasn't
fully
gotten
kicked
off
in
jacksonville.
H
But
it
is
a
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
give
it
a
percentage,
but
they
think
it's
a
really
good
chance.
That
jacksonville
is
going
to
be
a
blue
zones
project
here
in
the
in
the
coming
next
two
years.
They're
doing
all
the
background,
research
and
they're
really
excited
about
what
we
have
here
so
anyway.
That's
that's
what
I
got
about
that
I'm
gonna
do
a
write-up
apologize
for
the
delay.
H
We've
just
been
a
little
busy
so
as
soon
as
things
kind
of
calm
down
I'll
have
a
big
write-up
from
dan
burden
and
then
a
little
bit
about
from
nadja
on
the
food
policy
stuff.
F
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
with,
and
I
love
that
we're
doing
this
by
the
way.
Thank
you
guys
all
for
surfing
in
these
roles
and
providing
us
with
the
update
cory
is
the
second
project,
potentially
the
median
on
beach
bull
beach,
boulevard
near
the
museum.
D
No,
that
was
not
on
there,
but
I
am
following
up
with
that
and
I
was
they
did.
I
know
that
they
they
advertise
it
for
design
services.
Dot
did
so
that
project
is
going
forward.
D
Yeah,
so
it's
probably
usually
through
the
design
phase
you're
looking
about
18
months,
so
probably
about
24
to
28
months
from
construction,
the
other
one,
so
the
the
a1a
2nd
street
pedestrian
crossing
was
the
first
one
and
the
other
one
is
that
they
approved
a
large
feasibility
study
for
the
east
coast.
Greenways
that
will
tie
like
all
the
beaches
could
all
the
beaches
together,
which
I
mean,
I
think,
is
fantastic.
D
I
know
we're
talking
about
selling
our
parks
together
and
everything,
but
just
incorporating
all
the
beaches
communities,
if
you
could,
you
could
jump
on
a
bike
and
ride
a
trail
where
you
don't
have
to
be
next
to
traffic,
to
connect
to
all
of
our
parks
throughout
the
whole
community.
I
think
it
would
just
be
amazing.
A
Thank
you,
mayor
councilor,
nichols.
D
I
I
was
just
gonna.
That
was
exactly
what
I
wanted
to
say,
thanks
for
leading
me
into
it,
mayor,
hoffman,.
A
And
we
will
have
a,
I
believe,
it's
a
resolution
coming
to
you
at
our
next
meeting
a
joint
resolution.
I
think
the
the
three
beach
communities
are
all
proceeding
with
them
to
be
considered
as
a
joint
application
for
tpo,
for
that
greenways
study,
so
you'll
be
seeing
that
resolution
shortly
for
consideration
mayor
hoffman's
hand
is
still
raised,
but
that's
a
hold
over
council
member
golding,
followed
by
councilmember
mesa.
G
Thank
you.
Just
real,
quick,
chet
dan
burden's
name
is
a
very
familiar
name
here
in
jacks
beach,
because
back
in
2005
I
went
to
a
walkable
communities
presentation
he
did
in
jacksonville
and
then
he
did
it
again
in
st
augustine
and
in
in
2006
and
our
city
manager.
At
the
time
we
got
him
george
forbes,
to
attend
that
and
when
he
attended
that
he
talked
to
dan
burden
about
coming
to
jack's
beach
to
do
the
visioning
in
2007.
G
So
dan
burden
came
to
jack's
beach
and
did
a
walking
tour
and
walked
around
the
downtown
and
said
here
are
some
things
that
need
to
be
improved
to
make
the
downtown
more
walkable.
And
then
he
got
us
connected
with
the
group
that
helped
us
through
the
visioning
process.
So
dan
burden
has
some
history
with
jack's
speech
and
he's
amazing.
He
is
absolutely
amazing.
If
you
can
ever
go
to
one
of
his
presentations.
You'll
be
blown
away.
H
We
talked
we
talked
about
that
and
that
was
his
last
visit
to
jack's
beach.
So
I
was
able
to
kind
of
fill
him
in
on
some
of
the
changes
and
stuff
that
have
happened
since
then,
but
really
cool
to
talk
with
him
about
that
and
how
he
had
done
the
07
plan
and
worked
on
that
a
little
bit
just
with
some
of
the
sidewalk
projects
and
et
cetera
so
yeah
that
was
that
was
really
kind
of
cool
that
he
knew.
G
Yeah,
no,
he
he's
amazing.
He
he's
the
one
that
I
think
he
may
have
encouraged
us
to
do
the
penman
road
study.
At
the
same
time,
he
may
have
been
involved
in
that
a
little
bit,
so
we
have
have
that
drawing
that
was
done
back
then.
G
I
wanted
to
mention
to
everybody
that
I
attended
a
webinar
by
smart
growth,
america
and
they
do
a
study,
and
this
study
that
came
out
was
the
dangerous
by
design
study
you
guys
may
have
heard
of
it,
but
it
just
came
out
and
it's
focused
on
pedestrian
bicycle
and
automobile
safety,
but
the
the
focus
is
really
about
how
dangerous
our
streets
are
in
the
united
states
and
how
design
can
make
our
streets
better
for
everybody
that
use
those
streets.
G
G
It
was
extremely
interesting
because
they
talk
about
how
the
design
of
our
streets
can
actually
help
to
address,
speed
issues
and
safety
for
bicycles
and
pedestrians,
which
is
something
that
when
we
do
this
urban
trail
throughout
our
community-
and
I
know
I
I
know
all
of
you
probably-
are
getting
the
same
types
of
complaints
that
I
get
from
citizens
about
speeding
through
the
neighborhoods.
G
So
I
think
that
the
dangerous
by
design-
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
florida-
is
number
one
in
their
study
for
the
worst
state
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
and
for
street.
You
know
just
street
safety
in
general.
So
I
it
that's
a
real
shame,
but
it's
it's
the
truth,
and
so
I
I
wanted
to
mention
that
to
everybody,
because
if
you,
if
you,
if,
if
you
want
mike,
can
share
the
link
to
the
webinar
for
you,
it's
like
a
one-hour
webinar
and
it
was.
It
was
really
really
interesting.
G
And
then
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
several
months
ago
mike
and
I
met
with
the
north
florida
land
trust
about
the
small
islands
project.
And,
of
course,
you
all
know
that
now
they're
fundraising
to
try
to
raise
money
for
the
small
islands
project.
I
would
just
encourage
you
all
to
continue
to
try
to
to
share
that
information
so
that
we
can
encourage
people
to
make
donations
to
the
fund
to
help
preserve
the
small
islands
in
south
jacks
beach.
G
C
A
They're
still
in
the
fundraising
and
haven't
heard
much
from
the
flt
over-
I
guess
maybe
the
last
month
or
so
so
my
guess
is
they're
calling
their
donors
hot
and
heavy,
and
trying
to
raise
the
funds
necessary
to
move
forward.
G
Oh
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
penman
road,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
everybody
that
this
whole
process
of
trying
to
get
the
penman
road
study
started
has
been
extremely
painful
because
it's
just
taking
forever.
They
did
the
rfp
last.
I
think
they
closed
the
rfp
for
it
like
last
may
and
they
got
all
you
know.
I
think
it
was
like
13
proposals.
G
It's
taken
them
forever
to
pick
to
pick
a
consultant,
and
I
think
that
they're
now
in
the
last
phases
of
finalizing
the
contract
with
the
consultant,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
once
that
gets
done,
then
we
can
see
the
pen
and
road
study
get
started
and
then
I
hope
that
we
they
have
committed
to
having
some
community
meetings
so
that
the
community
will
be
involved
in
what's
happening
or
the
the
direction
that
things
go
with
penman
road
but
yeah.
It's
it's
painful.
D
Yes,
sandy
procurement,
you
know
it's
procurement,
procurement,
the
city
of
jacksonville
is
way
far
behind
and
it's
it's
just
challenging
to
get
anything
through,
but
I'm
I
I
keep
asking
about
it
and
and
keep
you
know,
keep
trying
to
push
it.
So
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
too.
E
E
G
Yeah,
so
I
I
was
approached,
I
think
I
think
all
of
you
probably
know
coach
brown
from
fletcher
high
school
who's
with
the
marine
coastal
club,
and
I
think
that
it's
pretty
timely
that
that
we're
we
would
be
discussing
this
tonight,
but
he's
he
has
done
a
lot
over
the
last
five
years,
with
his
students
and
with
other
volunteers
to
plant
sea
oats
in
our
dunes
to
try
to
bring
our
dunes
back
post,
matthew
and
irma.
G
G
He
approached
me
because
he's
really
concerned
about
the
amount
of
people
we're
going
to
have
coming
to
jack's
beach
this
summer,
whether
it's
july
4th
or
whether
it's
orange
crush,
whether
it's
memorial
day
or
whatever,
and
he
recently
did
a
planting
east
of
margaritaville
and
he
was
out
there
of
course,
he's
with
the
beach
sea
turtle
patrol.
So
he's
out
there
a
lot
he
sees
what's
going
on
and
he
said
he
was
really
upset
to
see
that
there
were
people
in
the
dunes
on
top
of
the
sea
oats
that
they
had
just
planted.
G
Ali
was
able
to
do
was
just
the
signs
on
h
stands,
you
know
in
front
of
the
dunes,
and
I
can
personally
say-
and
he
even
said
himself-
that
that
is
not
very
effective.
People
still
get
in
the
dunes
still
go
in
the
dunes
and
he
would
like
to
work
with
the
city
of
jacks
beach.
In
whatever
way
we
can
he's
willing
to
offer
tons
of
student
manpower
to
help
put
put
these
pvc
pipe
posts.
G
You
know
into
the
ground
and
string
the
rope
and
put
up
some
signs
that
basically
just
say,
stay
off
the
dunes
and
at
a
minimum
he
would.
He
would
love
to
do
that
before
we
get
into
the
crazy.
G
You
know,
crowds
crazier
than
what
we
have
or
right
now,
and
the
area
that
he
would
like
to
see
covered
at
a
minimum
would
be
like
second
avenue
south
up
to
8th
avenue
north,
which
we
would
all
we.
I
think
we
would
all
agree.
That's
probably
the
most
heavily
used
areas
of
our
beach,
but
long
term
he'd
like
to
see
us
do
something
like
that:
the
entire
length
of
the
beach,
because
they
have
planted
sea
oats
in
other
areas,
besides
the
the
main
area
there.
But
he
would
like
to
ask
us
to
consider
he.
G
He
said
that
he
has
some
funds
he
could
put
towards
purchase
of
pvc
pipe
for
those
you
know
for
the
fencing
or
whatever,
but
would
like
to
ask
the
city
of
jack's
beach
to
consider
helping
financially
with
doing
something
like
that,
and
he's
he's
ready
to
do
something
right
away.
So
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there,
because
personally,
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
something
like
that.
D
Seems
like
that
would
be
a
pretty
good,
a
really
easy
gofundme
to
raise
raise
money
for
too.
I
don't
know
if
they're
looking
into
that.
A
Just
a
reminder:
our
conversation
is
just
to
see.
If
this
is
something
worthy
of
a
future
briefing,
is
there
a?
Is
there
a
consensus
to
bring
this
one
back
for
a
future
briefing
topic.
A
This
counselor
mesa,
followed
by
a
counselor
stokes.
E
Yes,
I
think
this
could
be
a
brief
topic.
I
know
we're
this
is
about
the
kids
live
in
jax
beach
and
in
our
local
beaches.
Here
it's
been
brought
up
to
me
by
a
couple
parents
about
high
usage
of
drugs
at
fletcher
high
and
some
of
these
teenagers
overdosing.
E
I
don't
know
how
we
could
help
mitigate
the
situation,
but
that's
something
that
is
a
concern,
especially
when
this
teenager
almost
actually
died
and
was
brought
back
to
life
and
those
drugs
were
bought
and
bodied
at
a
fletcher
high
from
what
I
was
told
and
then
the
second
thing
I
was
approached
by
a
individual
that
works
for
the
jags
and
they
were
trying
to
team
up
with
the
beaches
and
jagging
up
the
city
toward
leading
towards
the
draft
and
towards
the
opening
season.
E
I'm
waiting
on
on
that
email
and
I
think
from
what
he
briefly
told
me-
was
they
wanted
to
paint
some
of
the
murals
in
teal
and
liverpool
and
hype
up
the
community
for
the
nfl
season.
Hopefully
that
email
comes
to
me
today,
if
not
tomorrow,
that's
it.
E
And
I
know
we
don't
have
jurisdiction,
but
I
think,
as
a
council
and
the
people
that
live
here
at
the
beach
deserve
to
be
hurt
and
deserve,
these
kids
deserve
more
than
just
because
the
school
board's
not
doing
anything
and
it's
better
to
bring
it
up
or
at
least
move
the
needle
forward.
To
help
these
these
kids,
I
mean
for
what
I
hate
from
these
parents.
It's
getting
real
bad.
I
know
it's,
it's
a
school
board
issue,
but
I
think
we
should
start
getting
involved
and
that's
just
my
personal
opinion
right
now.
A
Not
seeing
a
consensus
on
that
one,
how
about
jagging
up
the
city
the
what
he
just
indicated
with
the
jaguars
coming
into
town
consensus,
to
bring
that
back
once
mr
mesa
gets
the
email
about
what
they
want
to
do
more
specifically.
C
H
Yeah,
just
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
yeah,
I
did
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
co
project,
I'd
like
for
it
to
be
a
little
bit
more,
encompassing
on
dune
protection
than
just
the
fletcher
project.
I
just
wanted
to
have
that
before
we
go
in
to
the
briefing
topic
we
can
talk
about
it
further
then,
but
just
a
little
bit
more
because
when
I
was
a
kid
we
it
was
wooden
fenced.
H
I
Thank
you.
I
was
contacted
by
a
constituent
who
wanted
to
have
a
memorial
bench
for
his
son,
who
was
killed
a
three-year-old
boy
who
was
killed
a
jacks
beach
resident
on
the
east
side
of
the
dunes
at
one
of
the
walkovers.
We
currently
don't
allow
for
that.
I'm
in
the
process
of
contacting
yvonne
caldwerly
up
in
atlantic
beach.
I
They
have
a
program
and
I'm
not
sure
how
they're
able
to
do
it
with
environmental
protection
and
turtles,
and
all
of
that,
so
I'm
trying
to
find
out
more
information
on
the
possibility
of
putting
benches
on
the
beach
having
like
a
memorial
bench
on
the
beach.
I
But
what
we
could
do
and
he
wasn't
overly
ecstatic
about
the
idea
of
possibly
putting
him
on
the
west
side
of
the
walkovers,
with
the
proper
setbacks
to
private
property
and
things
like
that
within
parameters
is
about
seven
possibly
max
in
the
city
to
have
benches
on
the
west
side
on
the
public
right-of-ways.
But
that
would
require
an
update
to
the
the
memorial
park.
Ordinance.
A
C
It
okay
councillor
golding.
G
I
just
wanted
to
mention
to
ms
dumont
that
I've
been
in
atlantic
beach
and
I've
seen
the
benches
and
they
tend
to
the
ones
I've
seen
I
haven't
seen
any
on
the
beach,
but
I've
seen
them
on
the
west
side
of
the
dune
like
at
the
beach
more
at
the
beach
access
point
is
that
where
they're
actually
talking
about
on
the
dune
itself,
he.
I
I
Not
our
dunes
are
now
too
high,
where
you
could
put
them
on
the
west
side
of
the
dune
and
still
be
able
to
look
at
the
ocean
from
the
west
side,
and
that
is
what
his
what
optimally
that
would
be
what
he
would
like
to
see
like.
I
said
I'm
looking
at
atlantic
beach
to
see
what
it
is
that
they're
doing
I've
seen
the
picture
I
have
not
gone
up
to
their
beach
ends
to
check
them
out.
G
I
And
that's
what
I
told
him
that
you
know
it's
beyond
what
we
can
do,
but
he
specifically
said
there
are
some
on
the
west,
some
on
the
east
side
of
the
dunes.
I
don't
know
if
the
ones
on
the
east
side
of
the
dunes
are
grandfathered.
In
my
conversation
today
with
atlantic
beach,
she
said
that
they
are
replacing
some
of
those
benches
so
once
you
replace
it,
it
wouldn't
be
grandfathered
in
anymore.
I
So
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
more
information
as
to
how
they
are
getting
around
the
dep
by
you
know
being
able
to
put
those
benches
there.
He
would
be
willing
to
maintain
the
beat
bench
shovel
it
out
if
it
gets
covered
in
sand
and
all
of
that
he
just
would
like
a
memorial
bench
to
his
son.
A
A
He
would
be
looking
for
with
regards
to
partnership.
What's
he
looking
for
from
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach,
that
would
be
fantastic.
G
A
C
D
I
wouldn't
mind
having
the
the
new
cra
director
attend
one
of
our
meetings
to
do
an
introduction,
and
so
we
can
just
kind
of
ask
questions
about.
You
know
where,
where
that
person
sees
the
things
going
and
just
so,
we
can
get
face
to
face
with
that
person.
A
I
know
she'll
be
in
attendance
at
the
joint
meeting
that
we
have
coming
up
between
the
council
and
the
cra,
but
I
think
it
would
probably
make
sense
give
her
a
couple
weeks
on
the
job,
at
least
and
then
bring
her
back
and
give
the
council
some
of
her
thoughts.
And
then
you
can
pepper
her
with
questions.
A
A
That
will
be
here
in
city
hall,
from
5
30
to
6
o'clock,
they're
going
to
be
attending
the
meeting
as
well
they're
working
on
their
building
a
better
world
adventure
pin.
So
if
any
council
members
can
make
it
from
5
30
to
6
to
meet
and
greet
with
them
in
the
council
chambers,
that
would
be
fantastic.
A
The
second
thing
is
to
let
council
know
that
I
will
be
going
out
of
town
starting
the
second
half
of
this
friday
afternoon
and
through
the
weekend,
while
I
will
be
reachable
by
phone,
I
will
be
outside
of
jack's
beach,
so
there
won't
be
anything
that
I
can
do
if
there's
an
emergency
situation
that
requires
immediate
attention
on
the
ground.
So
if
there's
something
that
requires
immediate
attention,
please
call
deputy
city
manager,
carrie,
nelson
and
she'll
be
more
than
happy
to
help
you
out
this
weekend.
A
C
Yeah
I
I've
already
volunteered
with
chris
wright
to
be
at
the
we
blow
meeting
so
via
email,
so
I'll
be
there
for
that
and
then
and
a
lighthearted
note
for
the
mayor,
pablo
beach
anywhere
on
that.
Are
we
moving
forward
on
pablo
beach,
sure.