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A
First,
item
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
is
a
discussion
about
the
auditor
selection
committee.
You
should
have
all
received
a
memo
in
your
packets
from
CFO
Ashley
Gossett
I
will
turn
it
over
to
her
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
what
the
changes
in
state
statutes
are
and
some
of
the
direction
that
we're
looking
from
Council
on
tonight.
With
that
Ashley
the
floor
is
yours,.
B
I'm
here,
but
my
video
is
not
working
all
right.
Sorry,
so
I
asked
Mike.
If
I
could
brief
the
council
today
on
some
changes
and
from
the
legislation
regarding
auditor
selection
committees
and
to
get
some
guidance
from
the
council
as
to
how
the
city
should
proceed.
In
the
last
legislative
session,
the
state
statutes
changed
and
such
that
the
auditors
selection
committee
may
no
longer
be
comprised
of
any
city
employee
and
it
must
be
comprised
of
at
least
one
member
of
the
governing
body.
B
So
the
state
statutes
specifically
say
that
the
committee
must
have
at
least
three
members.
One
of
the
members
is
a
member
of
the
governing
body
who
must
chair
the
committee
and
then
this
committees.
Responsibility
is
singularly
focused
to
select
the
new
external
auditors
for
the
city,
that
kameez
responsibilities
are
to
draft
the
RFP
and
develop
the
selection
criteria
and
weighting
method
to
review
the
respondents
of
the
RFP
and,
ultimately,
to
make
a
recommendation
to
Council
at
large
as
to
the
next
external
auditor.
So
the
guidance
I'm
looking
for
is
how.
B
How
does
this
council
want
to
move
forward
in
comprising
the
committee?
So
I've
done
a
little
bit
of
research
on
cities
that
have
already
proceeded
and
it
seems
like
there's
kind
of
a
variety
of
approaches
for
this
council.
You
guys
can
choose
to
all
be
a
member
of
the
committee
or
to
have
members
opt
out
of
being
part
of
the
committee
or
for
men
to
opt-in
to
be
a
part
of
the
committee
and
then
to
seek
citizen
advisors
to
sit
on
the
committee,
preferably
those
that
have
backgrounds
in
accounting,
government
finance,
our
CPAs.
B
So
the
committee
itself,
you
know
it's
a
short-term
assignment
and,
if
possible
like,
if,
if
we
engage
a
new
Auditor,
the
contract
could
be
for
five
or
six
years.
So
this
committee
might
not
need
to
meet
past
the
award
of
the
initial
RFP.
So
the
recommendation
that
we
would
have
would
be
to
develop
to
dissolve
the
committee
after
one
year
just
to
see
if,
like
there,
if
there's
problems
with
the
auditors
that
have
been
awarded
the
contract,
the
community
might
need
to
reform
to
award
to
the
next
one.
B
C
B
So
I
talked
to
the
city
of
Cocoa
Beach.
They
recently
formed
their
committee
and
it
has
three
members
and
the
way
in
which
they
went
about.
It.
Is
the
mayor
volunteered
to
be
on
the
committee
and
brought
forward
two
citizens
to
the
rest
of
the
council
that
had
background
that
would
be
applicable
and
helpful
to
the
process
and
the
council
just
voted
to
form
it
like
that
with
three
members,
one
member
being
the
mayor
and
two
member
being
citizens.
B
The
city
of
Sarasota
also
has
three
members,
a
one
is
from
the
governing
body
and
to
city
residents
and
on
their
website
they
listed
that
the
city
residents
should
have
a
financial
background.
The
city
of
Winter
Park
has
five
members.
It's
one
of
the
commissioners
and
four
residents
with
a
finance
background
in
the
city
of
North
Port
has
three
members
and
two
alternates
in
the
city.
The
town
of
Jupiter
has
four
members
the
mayor
and
three
citizens.
D
The
idea
of
three
I
think
we
struggle
to
get
people
on
our
boards,
as
it
is
so
I.
Think
three
is
a
good
number
with
two
citizens,
and
then
one
of
us
as
a
volunteer
I
would,
since
we're
on
the
way
out
to
say
that
the
volunteers
should
be
somebody
that
is
earlier
in
their
term
versus
the
latter.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion
not
to
not
volunteer.
C
C
Okay,
so
what
we
may
need
to
do,
I
also
agree
with
the
three
I
also
agreed
with
somebody
that
is
gonna
be
around
for
more
than
six
months
and
yeah
we
can
either
you
know,
I
can
meet
with
people
individually.
I
would
assume.
Is
that
all
right,
well,
I,
guess
I
can't
do
that
city
manager?
Can
our
city
turn
well?
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
see
if
there's
an
expressed
interest.
A
There
is
there
any
designer
Holcomb
are
existing
members
to
serve
on
this.
As
a
special
one-time
assignment,
one
of
the
questions
I
asked,
miss
Gossett
was
whether
or
not
we
had
any
people
with
financial
backgrounds
or
CPA
license
as
already
serving
on
existing
boards
and
actually
I.
Think
you
said
we
had
to
with
financial
background.
Was
that
correct?
That's.
B
E
C
F
B
F
B
If,
if
everything
goes
completely
smooth
I
would
anticipate
there
being
a
series
of
maybe
five
meetings.
The
first
meeting
would
be
to
discuss
the
criteria
in
the
RFP,
because
the
decision
needs
to
be
made
about
how
you
want
to
wait.
Wait
the
evaluation
criteria.
What
way
do
you
want
to
get
to
firms
that
have
experience
in
electric
utilities,
firms
of
experience
and
pensions
firms
that
have
like
a
length
of
experience
in
business
and
what
is
the
pricing?
So
the
board
needs
to
first
decide
that
and
then
they
are
can
be
issued.
B
So
the
second
meeting
would
be
to
review
the
RFP
responses
and
to
decide
how
many
interviews
they
want
to
conduct
in
the
past.
We
usually
have
the
top
three
firms
come
in,
so
then
that
would
be
three
interviews,
so
that's
five
meetings
right
there
and
then
well,
probably
another
one
to
make
the
recommendation
to
council
and
then
that
would
be
it
so
I
would
anticipate
over
a
period
of
two
or
three
months.
The
board
would
meet
several
times
and
then,
after
that
you
know.
C
F
B
What
I
would
recommend
is
to
use
our
prior
RFP
and
add
in
a
new
language
for
any
regulatory
changes.
Since
then,
we've
got
examples
of
our
piece
from
other
cities,
so
where
the
committee
would
need
to
kind
of
lend
their
voices
into
how
they
wanted
to
weight
the
criteria
for
evaluation,
and
we
can
provide
recommendations
and
examples
for
that
as
well
and.
B
Had
I
was
working
up
to
that?
Well,
okay,
because
of
the
complexity
in
kind
of
forming
a
new
auditor
selection
committee.
It's
the
staff
recommendation
that
we
extend
our
current
agreement
for
one
more
year
so
that
we
can
kind
of
work
through
what
who,
who
are
the
three-member
and
when
are
they
going
to
meet
and
then
also
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
resolve
the
two
comments
that
were
noted
our
prior
year
on
it.
So
I'm
also
looking
for
some
guidance.
F
F
B
We
could
assemble
the
committee,
maybe
in
the
fall
and
issue
the
RFP
in
like
October
November
and
then
do
the
responses
and
interviews
like
January
time.
I
mean
we
can.
If
we,
if
we
renew
that
current
agreement,
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
latitude
there,
but
I
would
like
to
have
a
new
contract
in
place
in
January
or
February.
So.
F
C
B
You
know,
of
course,
it
would
be
beneficial
to
keep
the
same
auditors
in
place
while
we're
still
working
through
our
ERP
conversion.
I,
don't
know
of
any
legal
reason
why
we
couldn't
do
it
for
two
years,
so
I'd
have
to
defer
to
Chris
ambrosio
if
two
years
would
be
too
long
of
an
extensive
period.
Just.
C
B
C
G
Mayor
we
actually
I
worked
on
this
and
in
fact
we
already
started
drafting
the
contract
in
case
the
council
directs
us
to
do
that,
and
the
statute
allows
us
to
redo
and
it
doesn't
have
a
time
period
set
to
it.
It
doesn't
say
an
annually
renew
or
put
any
restriction
or
limitation
on
it.
So
the
way
that
I'm
interpreting
the
statute
and
actually
and
I
reviewed
it.
We
could
change
that
to
a
two
year:
renewal,
I.
C
Mean
I
speaking
personally
I
mean
we've
worked
with
him
for
seven
years.
First
Greg's
done
a
fantastic
job
and
you
know
putting
them
in
place
for
a
couple
years.
While
we
go
through
the
democratic
process
and
reviewing
the
other
options
and
the
cost
options
and
everything
I
think
I
can't
remember
who
said
it,
but
I
think
it
might
make
Chris
the
having
the
new
council
there.
They're
gonna
be
just
starting,
it's
gonna
be
their
bailiwick.
Let
them
make
that
decision
Bri.
What
what.
F
C
You
said
you'd
like
to
have
the
the
person
selected
by
the
beginning
of
next
year.
When
is
actually
the
date
you
would
need
to
have
them
selected.
Are
you
allowed
some
overlap
in
those
in
those
terms
or
win
with
the
current
term?
And
if
we
added
a
year,
if
we
get
the
new
people
in
mid,
mid
November
you're
already
gonna
have
an
RFP
that
you're
writing
up.
B
Correct
yeah
I
know
with
this
four
RFP
process,
because
I
think
that
committee
would
want
to
do
interviews.
I
would
err
more
a
three-month
timeline
from
the
issuance
of
the
RFP
chat,
the
delivery
to
Council
so
far
adoption,
so
the
the
timeline
I
had
laid
out
is
thinking
about.
If
we
are
to
change
auditors,
a
new
audit
firm
coming
in
would
want
to
do
extensive
preliminary
audits
to
develop
their
initial
work
papers
so
to
give
them
that
time
that
they
need
typically
with
our
current
auditors.
B
They'll
come
on-site
sometime
in
August's
for
a
week
to
do
their
preliminary
audit
and
kind
of
analysis,
and
then
they'll
come
back
in
December
for
two
weeks
to
do
the
final
audit
and
preparation
of
the
financial
statements.
If
we
switch
firms
entirely
I
would
imagine
the
new
firm
would
want
to
come
in
in
the
spring
and
spend
a
couple
weeks
in
the
spring,
developing
their
new
work
papers
and
going
through
the
previous
year's
auto
previous
year
previous
auditors,
a
historical
file
to
incorporate
into
their
own.
So.
B
Think
it
might
be
a
little
tight
if
we
get
them
on
board
in
a
group.
April
they'd
have
to
do
their
own
scheduling,
and
so,
if
we
know
in
January
who
they're
going
to
be,
they
can
then
start
developing
their
team
and
schedule
when
would
be
on
site
in
the
springtime,
so
I'm
reluctant
to
say
April
is
enough
time.
Okay,.
D
B
C
A
With
with
that
being
said,
might
be
better,
rather
than
coming
in
with
a
with
a
proposal
for
a
two-year
extension
about
a
one-year
extension
with
an
option
for
a
one-year
renewal.
So
that
way,
if
the
new
council
wants
to
go
in
a
different
direction
after
the
one
year,
they
can
choose
to
do
so
or
they
could
choose
to
continue
for
one
additional
year
at
their
discretion.
I.
A
H
A
F
Would
say
we
look
at
the
perspective
list
first,
before
we
poach
a
board.
That
is
all
right.
You
know
someone
that's
already
on
a
board.
I,
don't
know,
I
have
the
list
that
I
don't
have
anybody's
qualifications
or
anything
in
front
of
me,
but
I
think
we
might
have
some
people
on
the
perspective
board
member
list
that
we
could
use.
E
D
Yeah
I
didn't
know:
they'd
have
to
remove
only
be
on
one
city
board,
so
I
think
I
would
agree.
Let's
try
to
reach
out
for
other
financial
individuals
the
end,
it's
a
relatively
small
commitment.
This
isn't
something
that
they
have
to
meet
monthly
on
throughout
the
year,
like
other
board
members.
So
this
could
be
something
we
could
just
ask
a
favor
of
a
few
residents
that
we
know
with
financial
backgrounds.
Yeah.
F
B
F
B
A
I
Hello
Jacob,
if
you
could
go
ahead
and
queue
up
those
graphics
for
the
clean,
dark
flat
campaign.
Some
of
you
may
have
already
had
a
sneak
peek
of
some
of
this
campaign.
Jacob.
If
you
fo
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
This
is
a
joint
project
between
beaches,
energy
and
our
public
works
department
and
the
beaches
sea
turtle,
Patrol
funded
entirely
by
beaches,
energy
and
Public
Works.
All
proceeds
from
the
campaign
will
go
to
the
beaches
sea
turtle
Patrol.
So
the
idea
is
to
raise
awareness
of
hashtag
clean,
dark
flat,
which
is
a
hashtag
that
the
beaches,
eternal
Patrol,
uses
on
their
social
media,
to
raise
awareness
of
safety
tips
for
ideal
ocean
and
beach
conditions.
Jacob.
I
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
it's
a
little
bit
more
descriptive
as
to
what
clean,
dark
flat
means
clean
refers
to
keeping
the
beaches
free
of
litter
and
personal
items.
Dark
of
course
refers
to
the
lack
of
lights
or
low
lighting
at
night
during
the
fall
along
the
beachfront
during
hatching
season,
and
then
flat
is
reminding
beach
goers
to
fill
in
the
holes.
I
I
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
description
of
how
the
campaign
is
gonna
work
we're
going
to
engage
the
local
coffee
shops,
those
that
choose
to
participate
with
us,
we'll
you
can
go
into
the
coffee
shop
and
order
a
clean,
dark
flat.
You
can
get
whatever
coffee
you
like
and
have
for
a
$10
additional
$10
donation
and
get
one
of
these
awesome.
Coffee
cuts
and
the
sticker
is
a
decal
that
you
can
put
on
your
car
or
backpack
or
whatever,
to
promote
the
clean
dark
flat
campaign.
I
So
all
proceeds
from
the
mugs
from
the
sale
of
the
mugs
will
go
to
beaches,
sea
turtle,
Patrol
J
cause,
if
you'll
flip
to
the
next
slide
for
tactics
and
timing,
we're
planning
to
launch
the
campaign
on
July
1st.
Initially,
we
wanted
to
launch
it
on
May
1st
for
the
began
at
the
beginning
of
a
turtle
season,
but
obviously
with
kovat
19
in
the
business
closures.
We
weren't
able
to
do
that.
I
So
our
new
target
date
is
July,
1,
we'll
have
in
shop,
displays
and
the
participating
local
coffee
shops
and
will
supply
the
mugs,
we'll
promote
the
campaign
on
beaches,
energy
and
city
websites
and
social
media
on
the
beaches,
sea,
turtle,
Patrol
social
media
and
we're
going
to
include
statement
stuffers
and
our
customer
bills
for
features
energy
Jakub.
The
next
slide
has
a
picture
of
the
statement
stuffers
and
then
the
following
slide
is
a.
This
is
a
beach
access
sign.
I
Our
public
works
department
is
going
to
be
placing
these
at
the
end
of
this
month
to
coincide
with
the
July
first
launch
date.
These
are
12
inches
by
6,
inches
and
they're,
going
to
be
placed
right,
underneath
the
existing
HS
sea
turtle
patrol
signs
at
all
of
our
beach
accesses
and
then
Jacob.
The
next
two
slides
are
just
additional
images
of
some
of
the
graphics.
These
are
counter
cards
and
posters
that
we'll
be
placing
in
the
participating
coffee
shops
and
then
Jacob
that
last
line,
just
five
just
has
a
full-page
graphic
design.
I
The
total
cost
of
the
project
is
twenty
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
dollars.
Twelve
thousand
of
that
or
just
about
58%,
will
be
funded
by
book
works
and
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
will
be
funded
by
beaches,
energy.
So
that's
it.
That's
all
I
have
unless
any
of
you
have
any
questions.
I
I
Twenty
thousand
dollar
cost
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
be
for
signage
and,
of
course,
for
the
the
city's
contribution
which
we're
taking
the
money
out
of
our
beaches,
energy
promotional
campaign
for
the
city's
contribution
to
race,
the
turtle
awareness,
the
twelve
thousand
dollars
from
Public
Works,
is
primarily
for
the
signage
and
again
that's
that's.
Public
Works
is
obligated
to
the
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
for
a
project
to,
and
this
is
one
of
the
projects
that
fit
the
criteria
to
raise.
Awareness
for
sea
turtle,
Patrol
who's.
H
H
I
They're
going
to
end
up,
you
can
see
this.
This
is
one
of
the
actual
signs
and
they're
going
to
go
directly
under
the
already
existing
sea
turtle
patrol
signs.
So
this
being
the
bright
yellow,
you
know
we're
counting
on
that
to
grab
their
attention
they're
already
looking
at
a
sea
turtle
sign,
so
this
will
just
be
in
addition
to
that
already
existing
sign,
yeah.
I
A
start
we'll
see
how
this
year,
you
know,
we
want
people
to
become
familiar
with
this
clean,
dark
flat
image
and
that
will
be
the
branding.
Hopefully,
this
will
be
something
that
that
beaches
sea
turtle
Patrol
can
use
going
forward
in
future
years,
and
if
people
can
recognize
this
brand,
then
that
will
help
and
being
able
to
spot
that
wherever
it
is.
F
I
think
it
looks
great
I
sure
well,
two
concerns
when
I
don't
drink
hot
coffee,
so
I
would
never
buy
a
coffee
mug,
but
I'll
make
my
ten
dollar
donation
and
I
do
think.
The
signs
are
a
little
small,
but
I
do
I,
appreciate
the
effort
and
the
fully
coordinated
kind
of
multifaceted
campaign,
and
so
so
this
the
creative
is
our
property,
not
Beach
to
sea
turtle
patrols,
but
I'm,
assuming
we
have
an
arrangement
with
them
that
they
can
use
it
as
they
wished.
E
I
H
What
about
I
mean?
Is
there
any?
Would
there
be
any
opportunities
to
put
something
in
hotels
because
I
know
I've
seen
the
beaches
sea
turtle
Patrol
posting
recently
a
lot
of
photos
of
holes
that
they're
filling
I've
heard
too
of
a
Neptune
fleet
shot
police
officer,
Neptune,
Beach,
Police
Officer
that
someone
told
me
they
saw
he
stopped
on
the
beach
and
filled
a
hole.
H
H
A
J
Hey
I'm
here,
I'm
back
basically
well
I'm
fixing
to
tell
you
is
the
outline
of
the
staff
memo
I'm
working
on
now,
because
this
ordinance
for
TIF
reduction,
I
do
believe
is
on
the
agenda
for
next
Monday
for
first
reading.
So
forgive
me
if
I'm
looking
away
from
the
camera.
Looking
at
my
notes,
basically
unlike
the
downtown
development
plan,
which
has
been
modified
several
times
since
it's
the
original
plan
was
come
up
with
the
1987.
J
Boulevard
Riptide
was
our
first
residential
subdivision
and
if
you
can
think
around
that
general
area
with
South
Beach
Parkway
has
a
spine
all
of
those
residential
developments,
the
commercial
development
with
world
market
and
Pier
one
all
of
those
were
components
of
the
land
use
plan
that
was
set
out
in
that
original
DRI.
That's
the
first
first
concept
in
2012.
We
actually
rescinded
the
development
order
for
that
DRI
evidencing
the
fact
that
the
DRI
was
essentially
built
out.
We
came
up
with
a
master
plan.
We
got
development
approval
for
it.
J
We
built
that
project,
as
was
originally
envisioned.
We
met
all
the
mitigation
conditions,
so
the
DRI
the
development
order
for
that
DRI
was
rescinded
in
2012,
following
the
recession
of
the
DRI
in
2012,
our
primary
focus
was
on
doing
South
Beach
Park,
with
our
last
major
land
assemblage
was
from
South
Beach
Park
and
we've
done
all
the
components
of
South
Beach
Park,
including
the
most
recent
being
the
multi-purpose
field
and
the
skateboard
park.
So
in
2017
council
also
passed
a
resolution
amending
the
South
End
redevelopment
plan.
J
Okay,
go
up
to
last
year,
the
the
lab
the
year
in
budget
modifications
for
the
dr
for
the
redevelopment
districts
in
2019,
the
CRA
approved
the
yeren
fund
balance
appropriation
for
the
south
end
district.
For
the
first
time
since
the
district
was
established
in
1986,
it's
fund
balance
exceeded
project
estimates
and
again
this
is
all
coming
from
information
that
will
be
in
your
staff
memo.
Next
in
the
package.
J
At
the
end
of
this
week,
as
per
Florida
Statutes,
the
excess
funds
were
returned
to
the
taxing
authorities
that
was
identified
in
our
year-end
budget
approval
and
I'm
doing
a
little
bit
of
discussion
both
amongst
the
CRA
and
amongst
the
council
at
that
time.
About
that
we
call
it
spillage
the
City
of
Jacksonville
received,
set
Jacksonville
received
a
little
over
three
million
dollars
via
Y
transferred
wire
transfer
on
April,
24
2020
and
the
City
of
Jacksonville
Beach.
We
are
the
other
taxing
authority
related
to
that
TIF
district.
J
We
received
one
point:
four:
nine
million
dollars
into
our
general
fund,
so
keeping
going
after
2019.
The
last
major
undeveloped
tract
in
the
redevelopment
area
was
rezone
in
2013
and
platted
and
developed
into
the
59
lot
Ocean
Terrace
single-family
subdivision.
That's
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Jack's
Drive
in
South
Beach
Parkway,
that
was
the
last
large
chunk
of
land
undeveloped
land
within
the
DRI
and
within
the
south
and
redevelopment
area
going
on
to
today.
J
The
CRA
continues
to
the
remaining
components
of
the
South
End
redevelopment
plan,
which
are
a
few
there's,
a
2011
capital
projects
amendment
by
and
large.
Most
of
those
projects
have
been
completed.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
are
aware
of
the
the
open,
ditch
that
was
kind
of
sandwiched
between
Marsh
landing
Parkway
and
the
South
Side
of
Butler.
J
That
used
to
be
an
open,
ditch
that
got
the
water
from
underneath
the
shopping
center
to
the
north
and
into
the
ponds
and
into
the
stilling
Basin
behind
World
Market,
well,
to
enhance
maintenance
and
to
enhance
the
viability
of
that
system.
We
recently
converted
that
open,
ditch
into
a
dual
box,
culvert
project,
that,
together
with
the
drainage
project
and
the
drainage
improvements
that
are
going
on
in
the
Jacksonville
Drive
area.
Y'all
may
recall,
you
just
saw
the
briefing
about
the
trail
alternatives
that
was
part
of
that
infrastructure
project.
J
J
Ok,
this
proposed
reduction
was
discussed
with
the
City
Council
initially
in
last
year's
budget
process
and
council
was
also
informed
again
recently.
When
the
2021
budget
assumptions
were
presented.
We
are
now
proposing
a
reduction
in
the
annual
amount
provided
by
each
taxing
authority,
coj
and
CEO
JB
from
95
cent
percent
to
50
percent,
and
that
50
percent
level
is
the
lowest
percentage
allowed
under
flora
statute.
J
The
proposed
reduction
is
based
on
build-out
to
date
in
the
South
in
which
I
just
discussed
and
a
shift
in
our
focus
from
capital,
construction
to
infrastructure
maintenance,
with
the
lower
fiscal
impact
and
again
I
said
it
was
initially
discussed
with
council
and
last
year's
budget,
but
even
prior
to
that
under
the
former
administration.
The
looking
at
the
down
the
tunnel,
not
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
but
just
the
fact
that
we
were
getting
further
to
completion,
and
we
saw
this
right
now.
J
We
get
I
think
it
was
4.6
million
dollars
in
the
Southend
last
year,
that's
coming
in
every
year
and
the
amount
changes
a
little
bit
every
year,
but
generally
we're
getting
that
volume
of
money.
We
don't
have
the
identified
projects
in
the
south
end
to
support
the
expenditure
of
that
level
of
funding,
and
we
knew
this
several
years
ago,
which
is
why
we
had
this
discussion.
J
In
fact,
I
was
tasked
with
drafting
the
inner
local
agreement,
because
it'll
have
to
be
agreed
on
by
our
City
Council
and
by
the
you,
Jacksonville
I,
drafted
that
at
least
a
year
ago,
because
I
was
under
direction
from
the
former
administration
to
begin
that
process.
So
here
we
are
today
and
basically
you're
going
to
get
a
more
detailed
explanation
of
it
in
the
memo
as
Wolf
City
of
Jacksonville
has
a
copy
too,
because
if
then,
when
it's
approved
by
the
City
of
Jacksonville
Beach,
it
also
needs
to
go
through
the
city
of
Jacksonville.
J
D
J
Half
of
what
that
identified
amount
is
every
year,
so
if
it
was
the
year
that
last
year
that
I've
got
documentation
for
was
four
point
six
million,
it
would
have
been
two
point
three.
Instead
of
so,
you
can
count
on
going
forward
at
least
getting
two
million
plus
a
year
annually
into
the
district.
Okay.
J
D
D
I
do
like
what
we're
doing
as
far
as
the
with
the
cleaning
up
over
there
by
the
Marsh
landing
shopping
center
with
the
flooding
I
know,
we
talked
about
doing
the
same
thing
Bill
with
the
late
by
Bank
of
America
and
then
cleaning
it
out
all
the
way
back
behind
world
market.
We
haven't
done
any
of
those
projects,
yet
I
mean
I.
Guess
I
just
see
a
lot
more
potential
in
the
south
end
than
to
give
up
to
over
two
million
dollars
a
year.
J
Okay,
not
to
dissect
each
one
of
those
recommendations,
but
there's
a
there's
a
slightly
different
spin
on
each
one
of
those
number
one,
the
exit
approach.
I,
think
you
mean
the
approach
on
to
Mars,
landing,
Barclay,
technically
coming
off
a
butler
and
even
in
rush
hour.
Okay,
when
you,
when
you
leave
that
road
first
off
that's
an
FTO
to
facility,
it's
been
dedicated,
not
dedicated
but
deeded,
to
seat
it
over
to
the
JTA
for
administration.
So
that's
all
in-state
right
away
further.
J
As
soon
as
you
leave
Butler
Boulevard,
it's
only
until
immediately
when
you
pass
the
Hampton
Inn
Hotel
and
get
right
in
front
of
whiskey
Jack's.
That's
when
you
enter
the
redevelopment
area
so
that
roads
still
function
and
so
I
mean
technically,
we
can't
spend
the
money
outside
of
the
district
for
it.
It
would
require
coordination
with
JTA,
the
other
one.
The
downstream
improvements,
the
2021
to
2025
capital
improvements
plan,
identifies
that
as
a
project.
J
That's
how
that's
part
of
how
we
are
identifying
spending
down,
even
at
the
two
million
dollars
plus
a
year
coming
in
how
we're
expending
those
monies
going
forward,
but
even
then
doing
that-
and
you
talked
about
the
trails-
that's
why
we
had
the
discussion
with
council
and
the
CRA
about
the
multi-purpose
path.
It's
not
just
for
that.
J
We
envision
having
that
path,
also
be
our
that
type
of
path
being
on
the
west
side
of
South
Beach
Parkway,
going
up
to
the
skate
park
going
up
to
Osceola
and
then
Osceola
is
also
in
the
redevelopment
district,
it's
kind
of
generally
the
northern
boundary
of
that
district
and
then
continue
in
a
multi-purpose
path
on
one
side
of
Osceola
down
to
3rd
Street.
So
that's
that's
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
those
construction
and
design
projects
still
do
not
raise
the
merit
of
dealing
with
that
volume
of
income
and
money.
J
We've
got
and
that's
number
one
number
two:
we
have
to
identify
the
project
we
have
to
design
it
and
we
have
to
get
it
constructed
that
all
can't
happen
when,
like
a
six
or
eight
month,
time
frame
that's
at
least
a
year.
18
months
to
hence
project
or
to
your
project
from
inception,
getting
the
south
end
plan
amended
by
City
Council,
to
include
those
projects
and
then
going
through
the
design
and
construction
funding,
so
we're
thinking
in
those
terms.
It's
just.
It
can't
happen
that
quickly
and
we're
still
going.
D
J
D
J
That,
through
the
identical
process
of
coming
up
with
an
interlocal
agreement
requiring
our
approval
in
Jackson
those
approval,
we
could
go
at
some
point
in
the
future
over
the
next
twenty
seven
years.
That's
basically
how
much
left
we've
gotten
both
of
that
both
the
redevelopment
districts.
It
could
be
approachable
again
via
this
identical
process.
I
hadn't
anticipated
that,
but
that's
a
good
question.
J
It
would
be
automatic,
but
for
a
new
interlocal
agreement,
saying
hey,
guess
what
there's
been
unforeseen
circumstances.
We
now
have
the
need
within
the
district,
to
come
up
with
these
additional
projects,
but
that's
what
it
would
take.
It
would
take
going
through
the
process
of
both
councils
agreeing
by
ordinance
and
then
both
council
signing
on
to
the
interlocal
agreement
that
reduces
that
TIF
money
follow.
E
Up
on
Phil's
peace
with
the
undoing
it
in
the
future,
Jacksonville
would
have
to
agree
on
that
though.
Yes,
ma'am
and
I,
don't
know
if
they
agree
on
giving
up
millions
of
dollars
in
the
future
once
they
kind
of
get
used
to
getting
that
million.
The
the
two
point:
six
seven
million
a
year
so
I
see
that
as
being
somewhat
problematic,
I
I'm
in
line
with
Bill
thinking.
E
How
we
did
I
think
last
year
was
just
a
temporary
modification
that
we
gave
that
we
ended
up
splitting
it
because
we
couldn't
spend
it
down
I'm
comfortable
with
doing
the
temporary
modifications
until
we
get
our
feet
under
and
get
the
projects
in
the
queue
for
what
we
want
to
do
in
the
south
end
in
downtown.
But
where,
specifically
on
the
south
end
I,
don't
I
understand
your
logic.
I
do
think.
In
the
past
years,
with
the
CRA,
they
were
not
thinking
long
term
projects
on
their
own
that
fends
the
plan.
E
It
was
the
city
giving
them
projects
instead
of
the
CRA
developing
that,
like
Phil's
intersection
at
how
he
wants
those
signs,
you
know
and
that's
not
what
the
CRA
used
to
do.
We
have
a
new
administration,
as
you
noted,
and
we
might
be
taking
a
different
direction,
so
I
would
be
uncomfortable
with
making
this
permanent
I'd
stick
with
temporary
modifications
for
as
long
as
we
can,
while
we're
in
the
process
of
identifying
projects
that
we
can
use,
the
tip
funding
for
I
think.
J
We
are
doing
that
right
now.
That's
the
topic
of
not
we've
got
a
workshop
this
week,
it's
a
special
meeting
on
the
10th,
but
our
schedule
meeting
on
the
22nd.
That's
one
of
the
discussion
items
that
we're
having
it's
another
it'll,
be
a
workshop.
I,
don't
have
any
action
items
for
that
agenda,
but
that's
exactly
where
we're
going.
That
path
were
going
down.
E
You
said:
pass
I'm,
just
gonna
put
this
in
there
really
quick,
because
you
said
the
word
path.
If
we
have
so
much
money,
why
couldn't
the
multi-purpose
past
have
gone
to
the
north?
The
CRA
decided
that
it
goes
to
the
south,
so
it's
going
to
the
south
and
we
spent
way
too
much
time
talking
about
it,
even
though
it
wasn't
what
we
should
have
been
talking
about,
but
if
we're
looking
at
it
as
a
whole
as
we
should.
This
is
why
we
have
some
problems,
but
you
said
path
I.
So
that's
fine.
J
But
to
the
point,
we're
taking
the
opportunity
to
do
this
Jacksonville
Drive
project,
which
is
part
of
an
infrastructure
project
where
the
roadway
is
going
to
be
turn
up
its
add
on
item.
It
would
just
be
the
first
facet
or
the
first
increment
of
what
we
hope
would
be
a
longer
Jacksonville
Drive
project.
However,
the
rest
of
these
trails-
I,
was
talking
about
like
on
the
north
side
or
on
the
scuse
me
the
west
side
of
South,
Beach
Parkway,
and
maybe
one
on
Osceola.
J
Those
have
to
be
identified
and
amended
into
the
plan
before
we
can
program
them
and
they're
not
there.
Yet
this
initial
piece
of
Jacksonville
Drive
is
simply
a
part
of
an
existing
infrastructure
project.
That's
already
identified
in
the
plan.
That's
the
big
in
I'm,
not
gonna,
put
it
in
there
because
it's
kind
of
the
mantra
in
this
redevelopment.
If
it's
not
in
the
plan,
you
can't
spend
money.
So
this
happens
to
be
a
component
of
a
project
that
we
can
facilitate,
starting
to
build
the
Jacksonville
Drive.
Let
me
give
you
an
example.
J
This
would
not
just
go
from
Jacksonville
dry
I
mean
from
America
Avenue
to
South
Beach
Parkway.
It
is
right
now
because
that's
the
limits
of
the
extent
of
that
existing
infrastructure
project.
Our
goal
is
to
then
extend
it
from
South,
Beach
Parkway,
all
the
way
down
to
third
Street.
That
has
to
be
amended
into
the
south
and
redevelopment
plan
as
a
transit
or
a
pedestrian
friendly
improvement,
and
it's
not
there.
Yet
once
we
have
this
meeting
with
the
CRA
and
we
identify
that
we
will
be
coming.
J
The
City
Council
for
a
formal
amendment
to
the
south
end
plan
to
incorporate
this
plan,
and
several
other
items
are
several
other
interesting
ideas
that
they
have,
for
instance,
the
utilization
of
the
vacant
lot
Jimmy
Kelley's
property
on
the
southwest
corner
of
Jack's
Drive
in
South,
Beach,
Parkway,
awesome
location
for
a
potential
pocket
park
on
the
City
of
Jacksonville
Beach.
Not
the
CRA
owns
the
Lots
on
the
north
side
of
Jacksonville
Drive,
going
towards
South
Beach
Park
adjacent
to
Riptide.
J
We
own
those
primarily
we
own
them-
to
keep
driveway
cuts
from
going
out
on
the
Jacke
on
the
South
Beach
Parkway,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
better
utilize
that
maybe
that
part
of
the
trail,
if
we
want
to
do
it,
would
would
serpentine
out
or
expand
to
maybe
a
little
bit
wider
park.
And
then,
when
you
get
in
front
of
Riptide
in
front
of
South
Beach
Park,
you
go
back
to
the
linear
arrangement.
This
is
kind
of
what
we're
thinking
you're.
Just
everything.
E
You're,
saying
Bill
is
nothing
new
I've
been
hearing
this
for
years?
Why
isn't
it
in
the
plan
if
I've
been
hearing
it
for
five
years
it
shouldn't
we
are
not
where
we
should
be,
which
brings
me
back
to.
We
should
just
be
reducing
our
TIF
funds
temporarily
until
we
actually
get
stuff
the
books
in
the
plan
to
not
just
be
talking
about
things
like
we've
been
doing
for
a
long
time.
J
Okay,
no
I
understand
that
I'm,
not
aware
that
that
specific
connectivity
has
been
in
the
plan,
for
that
I
mean
I'm,
not
discounting
what
you're
saying
but
I'm
not
aware
that
it's
been
an
idea
in
the
community.
For
that
long
I
know
there
was
the
former
director
had
an
idea
about
activating
the
drainage
easement,
that's
to
the
immediate
east
of
ocean
K
and
Paradise
ki.
But
it's
a
it's
a
shoulder
on
top
of
that
long.
Ditch
that
drains
all
the
way
from
Osceola
it
helps
get
the
water
down
to
the
south
end.
J
They
talked
about
putting
a
multi-purpose
path
back
there
well,
but
then,
when
the
development
of
Paradise
ki
came
in,
that
basically
ended
the
trail
before
it
could
get
to
its
ultimate
destinations,
which
is
tax,
the
mill
Drive
and
that's
not
really
a
high
visible
area.
So
there
was
some
concern
that
that
could
be
a
crime
area
because
it's
kind
of
between
people's
backyards
and
be
like
putting
a
multi-purpose
path
and
the
alleys
between
a
residential
neighborhood,
so
I'm
aware
of
that
component.
J
But
what
we're
talking
about
now,
I've
just
initially
discussed
that
with
the
city
manager
in
the
last
couple
of
months.
So
but
that's
kind
of
that's
what
the
CRA
is
actively
thinking
about.
Now
they
understand
that
there
aren't
identified
projects
you're,
trying
to
find
out
what
we
can't
identify
to
reasonably
go
forward
and
help
spend
some
of
this
money
that
would
be
spillage,
but
even
with
that,
and
actually
we've
got
an
excessive
amount
of
money
coming
into
this
out
there.
For
whatever
reason,
which
is
why
this
came
up.
C
Can
you
just
give
us
an
overview
just
a
brief
one,
because
I
mean
obviously
the
CRA
is
really.
The
main
purpose
is
to
get
rid
of
blight
and
I.
Think
that
the
South
End
has
really
done
a
good
job
and
I.
Think
there's
been
some
questions
at
the
state
level
about
CRA
is
functioning
properly
to
meet
their
goals
and
stuff.
You
have
any
comments
on
on
that.
A
You
know:
that's
that's
a
good
comment.
I
think
that
the
projects
that
we
ultimately
do
identify
going
forward
within
the
South
End
CRA.
As
someone
told
me
earlier
today,
they
need
to
pass
the
Sam
Donaldson
test.
They
can't
be
just
frivolous
projects
where
you're
building
monuments
to
nothing.
They
should
be
achieving
something,
whether
it's
an
improvement
in
trans
aesthetic,
beautification
functionality
of
intersection.
Whatever
the
case
might
be.
A
Camera
turned
off,
but
she's
probably
sweating
a
little
bit
in
her
office
because
part
of
the
long-term
projections
that
the
city
had
made
financially
assumed
that
there
would
be
a
reduction
in
that
South
End
CRA
in
that
revenues,
would
be
coming
from
the
south
end
back
into
the
general
fund
for
use
in
other
portions
of
the
city
and
for
other
services.
Oh
there.
A
If
we
did
not,
we
did
not
do
any
reduction
whatsoever.
I.
Think
Ashley's
original
projections
before
the
state
legislature
changed
their.
Their
wording
was
to
take
it
over
a
period
of
time
down
to
25%,
and
now
the
state
has
a
bottom
floor
of
50%
that
you
cannot
go
below
so
with
that
being
said,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
maybe
bill
hold
off
on
bringing
this
item
forward
next
Monday
and
allow
the
four
of
us
to
regroup
a
little
bit
with
the
financial
impact.
A
I,
don't
want
to
make
this
decision
in
a
vacuum
where
we
all
say.
Let's
not
do
it,
and
then
we
find
out
that
we're
in
a
financial
crunch
within
12
to
24
months,
if
we
end
up
in
a
one-year
situation
of
giving
back
again
to
both
the
City
of
Jacksonville
and
the
general
fund.
So
be
it.
But
it
sounds
like
this
is
a
much
larger
discussion
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
from
Council
right.
J
The
biggest
point
is
this
would
be
a
memorialization
of
the
reduction,
whereas
other
why's
accounting-wise
we
will,
if
we
have
an
excess,
it
will
have
to
be
spilt
over
some
level,
would
have
to
be
spilt
over
to
the
city,
both
cities
and
you're
right.
It's
not
just
coj,
it's
a
City
of
Jacksonville
Beach,
so
that
would
be
the
alternative
is
if
we
go
status
quo
forward.
J
Just
be
aware,
those
overages
may
be
identified
at
each
year
in
that
we
may
be
writing
that
check
in
January
of
each
year,
but
for
a
variable
amount
and
not
that
set
50%
and
again
you
are
correct.
The
original
programming
before
the
legislature
capped
it
was
to
go
from
50%
to
25%
and
gradually
sunset
back
to,
but
it
was
a
recognition
and
basically
the
built
out
nature
of
the
south
end
Eri.
J
F
If
we
go
down
this
path,
I
don't
want
in
three
years.
When
something
needs
to
be
done.
We
all
have
the
money.
Well,
we
do
have
money
and
we
just
need
to
decide
how
we're
gonna
spend
it
and
how
aggressively
we're
gonna,
be
there.
Also
I
I
mean
I
still
get
complaints
all
the
time
about
the
park,
maintenance
levels
and
things
like
that.
If
we
start
giving
money
back,
I
don't
want
to
hear
another
complaint
about
the
maintenance
levels
of
that
Park
or
anything
in
the
south
and
CRA.
F
Everything
down
there
should
be
should
be
pristine
and
well-maintained,
because
that's
the
place
where
we
have
the
money
to
do
it,
and
if
there
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
can
do
a
gradual
step
down
like
maybe
we
go
to
75%
for
a
couple
of
years
and
then
we
go
to
50%
I
mean
it's.
You
don't
have
to
answer
that
question
now,
but
if
that's
a
possibility,
I
think
that
would
be
something
worth
considering
as
well.
A
C
The
project
on
the
south
end
with
the
box
culverts
that
we
made
those
changes
to
the
tone
going
right.
Now,
it's
a
decent
sized
piece
of
property.
What's
gonna
go
on
top
of
that
seems
like
I,
don't
know
you
could
potentially
use
it
for
a
park
or
something
I
mean
it
seems
like
it's
a
decent
sized
piece
that
can
eventually
be
used
for
some
benefit
to
the
public.
You're.
J
Talking
about
literally
the
over
the
cover
over
these
the
culverts
that
used
to
be
that
open,
ditch,
but
just
keep
in
mind,
though
that's
just
the
area,
that's
sandwiched
between
the
south
side
of
the
Butler
right
away
and
the
north
side
of
Marsh
landing.
So
if
those
two
rights
away
of
coterminous
we're
talking
about
doing
that
type
of
work
within
the
d-o-t
right
away,
so
just
require
coordination
with
them
and
I
can
give
you
spatially.
I
can
probably
get
you
a
little
bit
better
idea
about
what
that
area
is.
I
mean.
C
J
Sir,
because,
even
though
it's
a
box
culvert,
it's
still
gonna
require
some
level
of
vertical
maintenance.
Now
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
via
you
know
just
vertical
manhole
access
or
not,
but
at
some
point
they're
gonna
need
access
either
over
there
adjacent
to
it.
So
there
may
be
a
small
maintenance
he's
known
either
side
of
it.
Okay,
I
can
look
it.
We've
got
the
construction
drawings
I
still
have
I,
don't
have
a
working
knowledge
of
them
in
my
head
right
now
is
your.
D
Workshop
with
the
CRA
to
discuss
ideas,
I
mean:
can
we
get
more
input
because
I
don't
know
in
this
transition
to
do
away
with
these
funds
started,
but
every
time
this
has
come
up.
I
have
talked
about
coming
up
with
ideas
to
spend
that
money
that
we
shouldn't
be
given
at
the
Jacksonville.
So
I
don't
know
when
this
discussion
happened
at
least
while
I've
been
on
City
Council
and
we've
never
had
my
support,
because
I've
always
preached
the
mantra
of
go
to
other
cities
palm
coast.
D
You
go
to
Palm
Coast
and
look
at
the
beautification
and
the
things
that
they've
done.
When
you
go
into
their
city,
you
don't
get
that
when
you
come
into
Jacksonville
Beach
in
the
south
end,
so
I,
just
think
of
different
things
like
that.
That
probably
other
members
of
the
community
have
been
to
different
places
that
have
some
quality
ideas
to
increase
the
beautification
or
things
to
do
or
the
public
that
we
haven't
even
considered
or
had
a
brainstorm.
D
J
Well,
it's
it
and
I'm
not
trying
to
explain
that
because
it's
a
history
of
probably
at
least
the
last
two
seated
councils-
and
you
know,
there's
a
there's-
a
gradual
overturn
every
two
years.
But
it's
because
bigger
projects
were
going
forward.
The
Ocean
Terrace
subdivision
came
in
South
Beach
Park
the
skate
park,
the
new
multi-purpose
field,
but
even
like
the
skate
park,
improvements,
the
entire
just
the
skate
park
itself,
so
about
a
two
million
dollar
improvement
project
that
was
half
of
one
year's
funding,
and
that
was
a
major
project
force
in
the
south
end.
J
So
gradually
those
big
projects
and
just
stopped
I'm,
not
saying
there
aren't
other
identifiable
projects
and
if
each
one
of
you,
when
you
get
the
documentation
for
this
year's
capital
improvements,
plan
you'll
see
where
some
of
those
big
projects
still
remain
like
the
downstream
clearing
of
the
south
end
stilling,
based
on
that
egg.
That
discharge
that's
in
the
plan
and
that's
a
big-ticket
item,
but
that
just
takes
care
of
them
from
one
year
and
we
just
the
level
of
magnitude,
doesn't
equal.
The
level
of
magnitude
of
payment
coming
in
I.
J
I
understand
understand,
and
again
this
was
just
this
was
an
administrative
directive.
We
were
given
to
go
on
these
and
I
believe
financially
budgeting
going
forward
eats
your
psyche.
You
know
in
each
year
cycle
we
have
counted
on
because
we
were
directed
to
to
count
on
those
levels
of
reduction
in
the
South
End
and
one
thing
I'll
tell
you
so
actually
doesn't
have
to
tell
you
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
whatever
we
build
down
there
27
years
from
now.
J
It
ceases
to
be
able
to
be
maintained
by
this
extra
multi-million
dollar
in-stream
we
get
in
every
year,
and
it's
back
on
the
city
to
maintain
so
and
that's
that's
key
in
both
districts.
We
need
to
all
be
mindful
of
that.
At
some
point,
the
TIF
money
will
go
away
and
the
increased
level
of
expected
maintenance
is
going
to
fall
on
the
burden
of
the
city
that
doesn't
have
that
tax
right
tax,
increment
revenue
anymore,
so
keep.
C
In
mind,
one
piece
of
the
puzzle
is,
you
know,
before
certain
short-term
run
on
CRA
is
with
the
big
anti
home
rule
target
by
the
ledge
hhor--
for
almost
three
years.
Then
you
know
whatever
we
do
we're
gonna
be
watching
very
very
carefully,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
doing
things
the
right
way.
I.
H
Just
have
one
question
and
I
guess
my
question
would
be
the
things
we
don't
see
like
infrastructure,
type,
stuff
and
I
think
that
stuff
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
because
I
mean
I,
know
at
least
a
appear
on
the
north
end.
We've
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
stuff
underground
that
that
needs
to
be
replaced.
J
Accept
and
accept
for
our
newer
subdivisions
back
off
of
Kings
Road
and
the
stuff
on
Keith
Roberts
old
property
at
the
very
northwest
corner
of
the
city,
the
balance
of
the
city
north
end.
The
development
is
from
the
lattice
from
the
50s
and
60s.
So
it's
in
dire
need
of
maintenance
that
was
kind
of
the
logic
and
I'm
not
trying
to
speak
for
the
prior
administration.
That
was
some
of
the
logic
and
getting
some
increased
revenue
stream
into
the
general
fund.
So
those
areas
could
get.
Maybe
read.
J
You
know
rehabbed
sooner
rather
than
later,
whereas
in
the
South
End
I
mean
every
when
I
got
I
started
working
here
in
94,
the
home
depot
shopping
center
was
Kmart
at
the
time,
but
that
Shopping
Center
had
been
built
riptide.
The
first
subdivision
had
just
been
completed
and
they
had
literally
cleared
all
the
property
for
the
target
shopping
center.
So
all
of
that
is
that
all
of
that
is
25
years
old
and
that's
well
within
the
initial
cycle.
A
G
The
findings
that
Steve
brought
forward
to
the
council
when
asked
to
look
into
and
work
with,
other
departments,
including
Public
Works
in
the
police
department
and
Jacksonville
Fire
Rescue,
to
determine
what
type
of
gate
finally
and
forever
which
one
is
needed.
Is
it
a
manually,
operated
gate,
the
logistics
and
use
of
a
electronic
gate?
G
There
was
going
to
certainly
be
a
manually
operating
gate
closed
at
all
times,
only
opened
under
certain
emergency
circumstances,
and
then
also
that
there
was
not
going
to
be
an
additional
path
created
or
mixed
paths
to
allow
most
people's
operated
where
pedestrians
would
be,
and
that's
the
purpose
of
coming
back
with
a
new
resolution,
and
this
was
gonna
come
before
the
council
and
earlier
this
year.
But
then
everything
changed
so
I'm.
Finally,
circling
back
around
to
that
item.