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A
A
You
should
have
received
a
packet
with
some
information
on
item
one
and
over
the
last
24
hours,
we've
sent
a
few
different
pieces
for
topic
number
two,
which
was
agenda
packets
issued
by
the
florida
league
of
cities.
A
The
the
first
item
that
we
have
on
for
tonight
is
proposed
media
communication,
language,
which
would
be
a
modification
to
the
legislative
policies
manual
back
in
february.
At
a
council
briefing,
one
of
the
things
council
indicated
was
there
should
be
some
guidance
language
for
elected
officials
related
to
communication,
specifically
with
the
media.
A
There
was
some
input
that
was
provided
by
council
and
we
took
a
stab
at
trying
to
figure
out
where,
within
the
legislative
policies
manual,
it
made
sense
to
put
that
language
and
also
what
the
language
should
be.
A
A
B
A
No,
that
was,
it
was
primarily
drafted
by
me
with
some
input
by
a
few
others.
B
Okay,
one
of
the
issues
I
have
with
item
a
media
request
for
items
or
issues
affecting
the
entire
community
or
government
organization
should
be
deferred
to
the
mayor
and
or
city
manager
for
address.
B
I
find
that
paragraph
to
be
too
ambiguous
and
I
think
that
should
be
more
defined
as
issues
that,
when
it's
affecting
the
entire
community,
I
think
of
that
as
more
of
an
emergency.
Like
the
example
you
gave
was
cobid,
there's
a
state
of
an
emergency
or
a
hurricane
or
a
flooding
or
a
building
collapse.
You
pick
your
poison,
whatever
the
whatever
the
issue
is,
I
think,
as
it's
written
right
now,
it's
just
too
ambiguous.
You
know
that
it
allows
it's
infringing
on
the
first
amendment
rights.
B
A
C
I
was
going
to
say
I
like
the
idea
of
it
for
sure.
Maybe
we
could
take
another
stab
at
it,
based
on
counselor
jansen's
comments
and
try
to
just
make
it
a
little
bit
more
specific,
because
for
us
that
get
to
talk
about
it,
it
might
make
a
lot
of
sense.
C
But
moving
on
for
the
next
group
and
those
after
a
little,
maybe
a
touch
more
more
context
would
be,
would
be
good
in
there
just
for
them,
because
that
makes
sense
to
me,
but
in
10
years
15
years,
20
years,
it
might
not
be
as
clear.
D
I
I
agree
with
both
dan
and
chet,
and
I
think
that
the
idea
that
we
all
know
what
we're
trying
to
say
is
that
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
would
be
the
spokespeople
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
the
issue
has
to
be
city-wide
and
also
to
chet's
point.
If,
if
this
is
language,
that's
going
to
be
here,
you
know
10
years
from
now,
which
it
may
very
well
be
coven.
D
19
might
not
be
a
great
example,
but
I
also
think
to
dan's
point:
cova
19
indicates
it's
more
of
an
emergency
situation,
so
I
think
maybe
something
a
little
less
emergent
like
a
statement
on
I
don't
I
don't
know
what
the
example
would
be,
but
but
more
of
a
broad
statement
on
on
behalf
of
the
city
would
be
more,
maybe
more
relevant.
Have
some
more
longevity,
hopefully
covet
19
won't
have
a
lot
more
longevity.
E
A
couple
weeks
ago,
when
we
had
that
event
that
we
had
here,
obviously
the
media
was
reaching
out
to
me
about
comments
and
concerns
on
both
as
business
owner
and
as
a
city
official.
Obviously
I
had
they
had
sent
them
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager.
I
was
a
little
confused.
I
didn't
want
to
speak
out
or
turn.
E
Obviously
I
don't
want
to
misrepresent
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
if
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
red
business
owner
but
yeah,
it
was
a
little
confusing
reading
this
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
written
in
the
future,
that
it's
clear
cut
throat
to
what,
when
how
the
council
member
will
be
allowed
to
speak
to
the
media
on
certain
issues.
Not
just.
I
understand
that
the
mayor's
feast
on
behalf
of
us
and
I'm
okay
with
that.
E
B
Yeah,
my
understanding
is,
though,
if
we,
if
we
tour,
if
we
were
to
prove
this,
this
would
be
in
perpetuity,
so
it
would
be
continuing
on
into
the
future,
and
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
just
feel
like
we're.
You
know
we're
circling
back
around
if
someone's
not
comfortable.
Speaking
with
the
media,
I
don't
think
we
should
set
in
place
language.
That's
going
to
limit
our
rights
in
speaking
with
the
media,
just
because
we're
not
comfortable,
especially
if
this
is
going
to
be
in
perpetuity,
I'm
comfortable.
B
I
don't
have
a
problem
talking
to
him
because
I've
done
it
my
whole
career
that
doesn't
mean
I'm
going
to
go
out
and
seek
them.
That's
a
whole
different
story,
but
I
also
think
that
to
fernando's
point
is
that
if
this
is
going
to
be
continuing
on
as
the
years
go
on,
you
know,
maybe
other
counselors
in
the
future
are
comfortable.
Talking
to
the
media,
I
mean
because
right
now
we
reserve
the
right.
The
media
comes
to
us
and
asks
us
a
question
to
say:
well,
you
can
refer
to
the
mayor
or
I'm
not.
B
F
F
You
know
I
mean
we're
all
still
residents
of
jacksonville
beach
as
well,
and-
and
you
know
I
think,
if,
if
a
council
member
wants
to
talk
to
the
media,
I
think
that
should
be
up
to
them.
If
they
say
something,
that's
inappropriate
or
is
out
of
line
with
the
city,
then
I
think
that
that's
a
that's
something
that
we
would
take
up
separately.
After
the
fact
you
know
I
don't.
I
don't
necessarily.
F
You
know,
I'm,
I
think,
we're
all
very
careful
about
talking
to
media,
but
I
think
in
the
future,
if
you
get
somebody
that
really
wants
to,
you
know
say
what
he
thinks
about
every
subject
out
there.
I
think
it's
it's
kind
of
like,
like
dan,
said
it's
limiting
our
somebody's
first
amendment,
freedom
of
speech,
to
be
able
to
say
what
they
want
to
say.
D
D
So
I
think
it
is
this
establishes
that
that
format,
so
that,
if
we
do
have
a
city
council
member
on
here
who
knows
when
that
wants
to
run
to
the
media
for
everything
I
know
you
guys.
Don't
you've
already
proven
that.
But
I
think
that
there
should
be
a
clear
delineation
on
who
is
authorized
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city.
D
You
guys
are
all
authorized
to
speak
on
behalf
of
yourselves
and
your
positions
and-
and
you
can
speak
on-
you
know
as
a
business
owner,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
city.
That's
what
this
needs
to
designate.
And
so
I
think
it
is
important
to
have
it
and
again,
not
necessarily
for
this
council,
because
I
think
you
guys
get
it.
F
That
messaging
is
very
is
very
important,
especially
with
the
most
recent,
with
some
of
the
recent
situations
we've
been
through,
it's
you
know,
and
I
think
we're
all
we're
all
smart
enough
currently
or
that
we
would
say
hey.
You
know
when
you're
talking
to
the
media.
This
is
my
personal
opinion
er
you
know
and
that
you're
not
representing
the
city,
but
I
don't
think
I
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
say
give
up
my
right
to
talk
to
the
media.
A
Let
me
try
and
winnow
this
down
a
little
bit
actually
guy
had
manhole
in
your
hands.
Well,.
D
I
I
mean
good
luck
getting
that
designation
or
that
distinction
through
to
the
media.
Considering
the
headline
of
the
article
that
had
garrett
dennis
and
matt
curluchi
said:
jacksonville
beach,
city
officials,
so
anytime
you
guys
talk
and
no
matter
what
capacity
or
what
you
guys
say.
It's
going
to
be
as
a
jacksonville
beach
city
official.
So
I
think
that
that's
that's
just
the
reality
that
we're
in
right
now.
So
I
think
we
need
to
I.
D
I
completely
agree
with
reworking
this
in
language
that
says
that
is
more
distinctive
as
far
as
the
spokespeople
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
I
I
do
think
we
need
that
that
distinction
there,
because
I
think
that
we
internally
need
to
acknowledge
it
and
hopefully
have
half
a
chance
of
having
the
media.
Also
acknowledging
that,
but
I'm
not
holding
my
breath
on
that.
F
Yeah,
I
wouldn't
either
from
a
media
standpoint.
I
don't
you
know
they're
gonna
put
whatever
they
want
to,
but
them
being
bad
actors
shouldn't
necessarily
limit
us
from
being
able
to.
You
know
speak
on
on
issues,
and
I
mean
it's
just
difficult,
because
every
issue
is
different.
I
think
you
know
with
everything
we
did
for
the
the
event
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
think
that
that
worked
great
at
being
on.
You
know
everybody
being
on
the
same
page
and
messaging
across
the
cities.
I
think
that
was
very
important,
but
you
know
I
I
don't
like.
G
Thank
you.
It
doesn't
say
that
we
can't
speak
to
the
media.
It
says
that
you
can't
speak
to
the
media
and
say
that
you
represent
the
city.
Yes,
it
needs
to
be
reworded,
but
I
agree
with
having
a
single
unified
voice
from
the
city
on
large
issues.
I
don't-
and
this
is
because
we
were
involved
with
asking
for
this.
I
don't
see
this
as
saying
that
we're
not
allowed
to
speak
to
the
media
or
do
anything
else.
G
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
figure
out
how
to
word
it
in
a
way
that,
when
someone's
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
city,
it's
so
it's
going
to
be
the
mayor
or
the
city
manager,
and
we
all
agree
with
that-
the
gray
line
that
we're
having
a
problem
with
with
regard
to
language
ends
up
being
more
along
the
lines
of
when
does
an
individual,
not
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
they're
speaking
on
behalf
of
themselves,
and
knowing
that
or
clearly
stating
that
in
a
way
to
the
media
outlet
that
one's
speaking
with
so
you
don't
end
up
being
you
know
the
official
speaking
on
behalf
so
of
the
whole
city.
G
So
I
I
like
having
a
unified
message
with
regard
to
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
city.
I
don't
see
this
as
curtailing
us
from
speaking
to
the
media,
about
our
personal
stance
on
issues
because
remember
we're
also.
We
we
have
ethics
as
well
and
sunshine
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
just
think
it
needs
to
be
clearer
at
where
the
demarcation
is
for
a
city
voice
versus
an
individual
council
member
voice.
B
Yeah
so
basically
I
was
gonna
in
essence,
say:
kind
of
the
same
thing
that
council
member
dumont
was
saying.
May
I
agree
with
you
that
you
should
be
by
the
example
you
gave
of
orange
crush?
You
should
be
the
unified
voice
that
that
speaks
onto
that
and
that's
probably
a
good
example
of
a
county-wide
or
community-wide
issue
versus
you
know
something
trying
to
think
of
an
example
right
off
the
top.
B
My
head,
that
may
not
fall
to
that
extreme
where
somebody
might
say:
well,
maybe
that
should
have
been
handled
by
the
mayor
and
then
another
council
member
says
well,
no,
not
really
so.
The
question
is
that
demarcation
lane,
like
council
member
dumont,
was
referring
to
and
that's
why
I
just
used
the
example
at
the
very
beginning
of
of
in
the
state
of
emergency,
though
orange
crush
would
not
be
a
state
of
emergency.
I
think
kind
of
to
your
point
is
we
all
agree
as
council
members?
A
I'm
sorry
back
to
councilor
maza,
followed
by
program.
E
Back
to
what
I
was
saying
earlier,
you
know
to
give
you
an
example,
before
the
july
weekend
busy
weekend
here,
downtown
jacksonville
beach,
the
media
contacted
me
and
they
wanted
a
statement
for
me
as
business
owner
personally,
I'm
mentally
drained
from
everything
that's
been
going
on,
didn't
really
want
to
talk
to
the
media,
and
also
I
didn't
want
anything.
I
was
saying
to
be
misconstrued
and
twisted
what
happened
a
few
weeks
earlier
with
the
orange
crush
event,
but
I
neglected
and
I
do
agree.
E
The
mayor
does
speak
for
us
and
I'm
glad
that
one
message
across
the
beaches
went
ahead.
It
could
have
not
gone
any
better
and
it
went
smooth
with
the
message
that
was
put
out.
I
know
if
and
when-
and
this
is
my
my
thoughts
if
and
when
the
media
does
contact
me
about
a
certain
issue.
E
Yeah,
I
I
I
just
I've
been
very
careful.
I
know
I
sent
text
messages
out
to
when
I
didn't
reach
out
city
manager,
mayor
on
certain
issues,
I'm
sure
in
the
future
we'll
get
we'll
get
them,
and
I
know
I
will
contact
you
mike
and
mayor
and
let
you
guys
handle
it
and
if
you
guys
want
me
to
speak-
and
I
will
speak
that's
just
this-
is
my
take.
F
F
Question
about
from,
let's
say,
you're
you're
campaigning
in
the
future
and
they're
wanting
interviews
to
ask
you
about
stuff
about
the
city.
I
mean
I
know
it's,
it's
it's
going
to
be
related
to
the
affect
the
entire
community
and
is
how
does
that
play
into.
F
B
I
think
a
good
example
of
what
councilmember
nichols
is
referring
to
could
be
the
the
fire
department.
You
know
something
like
that.
That's
happening
during
the
campaign,
because
that
happened.
I
think
in
2018,
where
they
were
asking.
What
is
your
stance
on
the
fire
department
as
a
as
a
candidate?
You
know,
but
as
a
candidate
you're,
not
elected
official,
but
if
you're
going
you're
seeking
re-election,
then
that
comes
into
play
so
and
there's
probably
a
better
example
of
where's
that
demarcation
line.
B
You
know
if
the
fire
department
issue
was
brought
up
at
a
council
briefing
and
you
were
asked
by
the
media
to
speak
on
it.
Is
that
allowed,
or
is
that
not
allowed?
At
that
point
you
know
so,
according
to
two,
I
think
it's
2b
you
would
be
allowed
because
it
says
media
requests
from
items
or
issues
specifically
related
to
a
public
official
or
their
actions
should
be
no
admit.
That's
not
the
one.
That's
oh,
the
example
media
asking
questions
of
a
counselor
regarding
a
proposal
made
by
that
counselor
at
a
briefing
or
meeting.
B
G
Thank
you,
my
concern.
The
reason
why
I'm
guessing
that
b
was
worded.
The
way
it
was
is
to
avoid
vote
counting
prior
to
a
vote,
and
so
it
and
that
can
get
into
a
very
tricky
situation.
That
said,
I
am
sure
we
are
not
the
first
council
to
try
and
figure
out
communication
policy
with
media
and
all
that.
So
can
we
just
look
at
what
other
cities
have
done
and
see
what
works
for
them
and
borrow
liberally.
A
We
can
this.
The
document
in
totality
was
three
different
documents
that
we
blended
into
one,
but
it
was
predominantly
a
neighbor
to
the
south,
but
they
did
the
documents
we
looked
at
did
not
go
into
this
level
of
specificity.
With
regards
to
media
communications,
mayor
hoffman,.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
might
be
overthinking
this
to
me
a
says
who
can
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
b
says
when
you
can
speak
on
on
behalf
of
yourself.
I
think
if
someone's
calling
you
for
your
thought
on
something
you
said
or
an
action
that
you
took
then
that's,
then
then
you
can
talk
about
that
or
a
proposal
that
you've
made,
or
you
know
something
that
you're
working
on
that's
a
totally
different
story,
because
that's
clearly
looking
for
your
opinion
on
something,
but
if
somebody
I
mean
I
some
good
examples.
D
We
got
a
lot
of
calls
about
the
surfside
condo
tower
collapse.
We
got
calls
about
data
compromise
from
flo
bird,
so
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
out
there
and
I
would
say,
maybe
add
on
there
mike
that
if
media
requests
are
received,
that
we
communicate
to
you,
so
you
go
to
the
city
manager
so
that
there's
some
sort
of
tracking
on
that,
because
some
of
the
things
are
a
story
that
they
may
be
digging
on.
That
we
don't
even
know
is
out
there
yet
until
until
we
can
put
all
the
pieces
together.
D
So
so
I
think
if
we
rework
a
to
be
more
just
worded
as
who
can
be
the
spokesperson
for
the
city,
I
think
b
takes
care
of
itself,
and
so
I
I
don't
want
to
overthink
this.
It's
just
a
matter
of
who
can
speak
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
of
course
you
can
speak
on
behalf
of
yourself
and
nothing.
Here's
stopping
you
from
doing
that
or
obligating
you
to
do
that.
F
H
H
A
Manager,
let
me
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
a
consensus
here.
Is
everybody
happy
with
three.
A
I
see
heads
nodding
with
three
if,
if
2a
is
clarified,
does
that
make
to
be
acceptable,
as
well
with
regards
to
elected
officials,
speaking
when
requested
by
the
media
for
actions
or
comments
that
they've
made.
C
If
I
think,
if
we're
serving
on
a
committee,
that
is,
it
is,
but
it's
just
a
little,
it's
just
a
little
gray.
I
think
that's
where
in
and
a
thing
that,
obviously
we
don't
want
to
get
too
specific,
but
since
we
are
trying
to
do
committees,
I
I
think
that's
a
a
worthy
one
or
you
know
media
requests
for
I
don't
I
don't
know
the
word.
I
I
had
it
and
I
lost
it.
Sorry.
A
So
counselor
stokes
would
your
thought
be
that
where
it
says
related
to
a
public
official
that
it
would
be
public
official
or
border
point
board
appointee
so
that
it's
covering
both.
C
A
Because
I
think
the
if
I
recall
correctly,
the
definition
of
public
official
within
the
document
is
up
at
the
front
end
and
it
re.
I
can
double
check,
but
I
think
public
official
is
defined
as
any
elected
official
or
board
appointee
or
appointed
position
within
the
organization.
So
I
think
it
already
covers
that.
But
if
it
doesn't,
we
could
certainly
clarify
that
it's
public
official
or
board
appointee.
I
don't
have
the
entire
document
in
front
of
me.
Would
everybody
be
okay
with
clarifying
that,
if
it's
not
already
clear
in
the
definition
of
public
official.
D
Well,
it's
not
really
a
board
appointee
position,
it's
just
representation
on
a
committee,
so
is
that
cover?
Would
that
cover
that?
And
I
honestly,
I
would
think
that
if
this
group
designated
someone
to
represent
us
on
a
committee
that
it
would
be
implied
that
you're
the
you
would
be
the
person
to
speak
on
behalf
of
that
issue,
but
maybe
that's
just
my
assumption.
A
A
The
florida
league
of
cities
on
an
annual
basis
puts
together
five
different
policy
committees
that
identify
what
the
priorities
will
be
for
the
lobbying
efforts
for
the
upcoming
legislative
session.
For
this
year
we
have
staffing
or
representation
on
four
of
the
five
committees,
which
is
actually
pretty
darn
good.
As
far
as
organizational
representation
goes.
A
A
We
have
council,
member
golding
and
myself
on
the
municipal
administration,
and
we
have
councillor
mayor
pro
tem
nicholls
on
transportation
and
intergovernmental
relations.
The
only
representation
representation
we
don't
have
is
with
regards
to
utilities,
natural
resources
and
public
works.
A
So
the
thought
process
on
this
item
for
tonight
was
that
each
of
the
people
who
represent
a
different
committee
would
basically
talk
about
what
the
possible
priorities
are
for
their
particular
committee.
That
they're
representing
see
what
type
of
feedback
or
input
they
hear
from
their
other
council
members.
A
The
determination
of
what
will
be
voted
for
will
probably
be
a
combination
of
what
you
hear
from
your
fellow
council
members
tonight,
as
well
as
what
conversations
take
place
in
your
committees
on
the
16th
on
friday.
So
with
that
being
said,
the
first
one
that's
on
there
is
finance
tax
taxation
and
personnel
council.
Member
meza
did
make
his
packet
available,
which
we
sent
out
today,
and
there
were
a
handful
of
priorities
that
are
going
to
be
considered
on
friday
by
his
committee.
E
Okay,
so
if
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
email
that
I
sent
mike
earlier
today,
we
have
three
to
four
top
priorities:
communication
service,
tax
reform,
property,
tax
reform,
local
business,
tax
protection
and
many
many
simple
revenues.
E
So,
on
thursday
friday,
I
guess
we're
going
to
narrow
down
of
which
ones
are
important.
Now
my
question
is
which
ones
are
important
for
this
community?
I
think
all
of
them
are
important.
I
know
with
property
tax
reform.
E
If
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
read
it,
we
had
daytona,
they
were
talking
about
where
the
housing
market
is
going
to
crash.
Is
this
something
that
we
see
this
happening
here
in
jacksonville
beach?
And
where
do
we
stand
on
property
tax
reform?
I
think
it's
important
out
of
all
three
or
four
that
we
have.
I
think
the
property
tax
reform
one
is
the
most
important
one.
That's
my
opinion.
I
don't
know
what
you
guys
think
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
local
business
protection
one
I'm
looking
up
here.
E
Where
do
we
stand
on
on
all
three
of
these
priorities
as
a
community
and
as
a
council
like
your
recommendations
as
to
what
we
should
talk
about
on
friday,
when
I
get
there.
A
And
counselor
mesa
I'll
go
first
from
an
administrative
perspective
to
just
let
the
elected
officials
know
that
from
an
infiltration
review.
All
of
these
are
highly
important.
A
I
realize
that
the
committee
will
narrow
it
down
to
one
or
two
top
priorities,
but
when
you
read
what's
what's
in
these,
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
does
have
a
cst
communication
services
tax.
We
do
also
have
local
business
tax
receipts
as
well,
and
obviously,
property
tax
is
another
large
collection
for
us
as
well.
So
if
the
state
is
looking
to
make
any
changes
or
adjustments
in
any
three
of
those
revenue
streams,
those
would
have
material
effect
upon
our
revenues
here
in
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach.
A
So
for
administrative
perspective,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
go
wrong
with
whatever
is
selected.
If
there
was
the
opportunity
to
pick
three
I'd
say
pick
all
three,
but
but
clearly
all
of
them
will
have
a
fiscal
impact
if
any
of
them
go
through
with
major
revisions
or
restrictions
on
revenue,
collection,.
E
Now
I
know
I'm
sorry
just
before
I
finish,
I
know
just
if
you
don't
know
right.
If
you
do
great,
I
know
some
of
the
other
municipalities
around
the
state
of
florida
there's
the
cst,
for
example,
they're
losing
that
source
of
revenue.
E
As
for
us,
we're
not
losing
that
revenue,
and
some
of
these
smaller
municipalities
are
looking
for
ways
to
find
another
source
of
revenue
or
tax
revenue,
and
I
know
that's
one
thing
we
talked
about
and
hopefully
whatever
we
do
end
up
taking,
it
doesn't
affect
jacksonville
beach
or
duluth
county
itself,
and
I
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
that.
Well,
actually
I
learned
that,
and
it
was
pretty
interesting.
Some
communities
depend
on
a
certain
tax
revenue
more
than
anything
else
and
we're
lucky
to
have
what
we
have
here
in
jacksonville
regions.
H
E
The
one
that
I
could
talk
to
certain
is
the
communication
service
tax.
There
were
some
counties
or
municipalities
where
they
were
weren't
receiving
much
revenue
from
it
and
the
other
one
was
the
the
local
business
tax.
Where
there
were,
we
actually
talked
about
that
more
than
anything
else
on
the
property
tax
reform
that
was
an
overall,
especially
down
south
florida,
where
prices
were
skyrocketing.
B
E
Okay,
the
only
time
that
that
was
brought
up
is
when,
for
example,
the
military
was
top.
Some
other
counties
or
municipalities
have
the
max
amount
of
military
they
have
and
they
can
exceed
it
and
we're
lucky
to
have
where
we're
at,
and
this
mercedes
have
maxed
out
their
source
of
revenue
and,
as
far
as
I
know
from
what
I
remember,
they
say
we're
pretty
lucky
to
be.
Where
we're
at
on
that.
On
that
on
that
subject,.
A
Committee,
if
not
thank
you
for
the
report
out
on
that
one,
fernando,
the
next
one
is
provided
by
councillor
stokes,
that
was
the
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
and
packet,
I
believe,
was
also
sent
out
to
council
on
that
one
as
well
and
chet.
If
you'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
your
committee's
covering.
C
C
Second
was
annexation,
and
third
is
one
that
came
up
during
the
meeting,
which
is
economic
development
funding,
so
the
sovereign
immunity
the
house
bill.
I
think
it's
one.
Let
me
scroll
down
here
house,
bill
1129
is
increasing
the
statutory
limits
on
liability
for
torque
claims
against
the
state
and
its
agencies,
so
we're
we
haven't
talked
much
about
that
one.
C
Yet
I
would
think
that
the
league
opposes
it
and
I
think
what
we
would
oppose
oppose
it
as
well,
but
it
just
it
kind
of
it
kind
of
got,
went
through
quick
as
we
started.
The
conversation
went
to
the
whole
economic
development
funding,
which
came
up
and
took
a
lot
of
the
conversation.
C
Second,
one
is
annexation.
Not
I
don't
think
we
really
have
a
lot
of.
We
don't
really
really
have
anything
for
annexation.
We're
kind
of
out
in
the
dark
on
that
one,
so
it's
not
one
that
I
would
think
that
we
would
support,
there's
not
really
any
land
around
us
to
annex
so
a
lot
of
really
small
municipalities.
C
In
my
committee,
though,
I
think
one
municipality
had
something
like
18
people
like
so
really
small.
It
was
like.
I
forget
what
she
said.
I
think
she
said
it
was
like
eight
acres,
I
mean
tiny,
so
annexation
would
be
a
big
deal
for
them
for
us
not
so
much
so
since
there's
only
three,
I
think
all
three
will
probably
move
forward.
Obviously
I
don't
think
there's
a
reason
for
us
to
not
support
it,
but
it's
it's
not
the
the
a
big
three.
C
The
last
one
is
the
most
interesting
for
us
is
the
economic
development
funding,
and
that
will
actually
be
a
report
by
city
of
boynton
beach.
It
came
up
talking
about
cras
and
how
boeing
beach
utilized
the
cra
and
had
utilized
incentives
and
really
increased
a
lot
of
of
revenue
in
the
city
by
adding
businesses
and
by
really
revitalizing.
C
They
had
like
an
old
area
that
was
kind
of
decrepid,
and
so
they
formed
a
cra
and
and
instituted
a
lot
of
incentives
to
bring
in
businesses
and
make
it
a
a
nicer
area.
So
that's
one
that
I
think
we
would
want
to
support
and
it's
just
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
substantive
information
on
different
incentives.
C
You
know
a
lot
of
stuff
about
the
cras,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
communities
that
were
questioning
like
oh
wow.
What
is
this
cra
thing?
We
don't
do
this
and
and
wait
we
can
get.
You
know
tiff
funds
and
and
get
extra
funding
and
and
all
this
stuff
and-
and
so
you
know,
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
good
conversation
and
something
that
you
know
they
just
they
want
to
get
more.
You
know
try
to
kind
of
get.
I
don't
think
there's
any.
C
I
don't
know
what
legislation
will
come
from
it.
I
think
it's
a
conversation
and
and
going
to
be
a
more
of
a
open
conversation.
So
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know
we'll
want
to
go
for
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
ones
I'll
run
through
you
know.
Really
I
mean
you
got
direct
financial
incentives,
indirect
financial
incentives,
tax
base
and
fee
based
incentives
below
market
leases
or
deeds
other
strategies
which
are
where
you
get
to
ida's
industrial
development
authorities,
community
development
districts,
small
business
development
centers.
C
C
Try
to
do
that,
quick,
because
it's
pretty
that
that
takes
up
out
of
you
know
most
pages
that
takes
up
about
like
35
40
pages.
Just
on
that
one
thing,
and
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
data,
a
lot
of
grants.
I
said
that
will
be
good
to
bring
back.
I
know
corey
always
or
excuse
me.
Councilmember
nichols
always
is
begging
us
to
look
for
grants,
so
should
get
some
more
information
on
on
that
one
there.
E
C
C
Cras
is
one
part
of
the
economic
development
incentives,
and
that's
just
like
one
part
of
what's
in
here
and
basically
it's
saying
the
cra
is
another
way
for
a
city
to
get
more
funds
for
a
project
grants
being
a
separate
one,
maybe
not
coincide,
but
there
may
be
some
co-incision,
I'm
still
still
digesting,
and
obviously
we
just
had
the
early
stages
where
pulling
beach
was
talking
about
their
cra
and
what
happened
and
then
half
the
room
was
like
wait
a
minute.
I
need
to
know
more.
C
You
know,
let's,
let's
talk,
so
I
think
this
is
going
to
be.
You
know
our
session
was
pretty
pretty
committed.
It
was
very
general.
I
think
this
one's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
and
and
going
through
this
whole
state
of
florida,
economic,
demographic,
research
on
on
incentive
and
economic
developments.
C
C
In
the
survey
I
don't
know
why,
but
in
the
2017-2018
fiscal
year
we
I
didn't
see
us
in
the
survey
out
of
58
counties,
246
municipality
and
109
cras,
we
weren't
in
there.
So
I
guess
we
didn't
complete
the
survey
questionnaire
so.
C
H
C
H
C
C
But
and
we
have
jacksonville
but
that
isn't
dust
we
don't
have
jack
speech,
so
we
don't
have
the
jacksonville
beach
cras.
C
I'll
know
a
lot
more
friday
afternoon
on
this
one,
like
I
said
this
one,
we
didn't,
we
didn't
talk
about
in-depth
literally,
you
know
just
got
the
info
and
I'm
trying
to
digest
it,
but
I'm
interested
to
hear
about
boynton
beach,
and
I
think
mayor
hoffman
went
down
to
del
rey
boynton
area
and
has
seen
the
great
things
that
they've
done
with
their
cra
and
I
looked
it
up.
I
looked
up
winton
beach,
actually
about
about
their
cra
and
stuff,
and
it's
it's
pretty
impressive.
C
A
Thank
you,
councilor
stokes,
just
as
a
little
feedback
chet,
I
believe
you're,
probably
referring
to
the
survey
results
that
are
on
page
17,
which
is
the
listing
of
all
the
different
types
of
incentives,
and
I
think
for
jacksonville
beach.
It
says
no
response
is
that
the
one
that
you're
referring
to.
C
Our
page
numbers
don't
match
up.
I
don't
think
because
on
17.
C
Yeah
yeah
there's,
no,
I
don't
think
yeah.
There
is
no
response
for
for
jack
speech.
Jackson
will
be.
A
C
Yeah
yeah,
but
there
you
know,
there's
other
ones
that
have
you
know
that
noted
like
none
or
something.
But
you
know
it's
also
something
we
talked
about
in
our
strategic
planning.
Workshops
was
incentives
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
this
will
this
directly
ties
into
stuff
of
what
we've
been
talking
about.
So
I
will
definitely
be
trying
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
from
the
mayor
of
boynton
beach.
A
H
Absolutely-
and
you
can,
you
can
fill
in
any
blanks
mike
that
I
leave
out
so
for
this
committee.
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
are
looking
at.
We
have
cyber
security.
We
have
vacation
rentals,
we
have
smoke-free
zones
in
public
parks,
matters
of
great
governmental
concern,
municipal
elections
and
virtual
meetings,
and
I
will
just
say
from
the
discussion
that
we
had
on
june
16th
the
ones
that
seemed
to
bubble
to
the
top.
With
most
of
the
cities
that
were
on
the
committee,
were
cyber
security
vacation
rentals
smoke-free
zones
in
public
parks.
H
Would
you
agree
mike
that
those
three
seem
to
be
the
ones
that
were
the
most
talked
about
by
the
policy
members,
so
just
to
go
over
those
a
little
bit
with
you
cyber
security?
This
was
a
very
interesting
stat
that
they
gave
us
that
cities
are
78
of
the
ransomware
attacks
in
florida
78.
H
So
that's
a
lot,
but
some
of
the
things
that
they
mentioned
was
that
most
of
our
cities
have
cyber
security,
insurance
and
but
there's
there's
four
areas
that
are
really
in
need
that
they
feel
that
cities
could
benefit
from
the
legislature
doing
something
with
cyber
security,
perhaps
maybe
with
some
funding
or
some
type
of
assistance
like
technical
assistance
or
grant
funding
training
and
then
the
last
one
that
was
added
that
wasn't
discussed
last
year
as
one
of
the
cyber
security
issues
was
public
records,
requests
and
apparently
that's
a
that's
an
area.
H
That's
come
up
because
city
clerks
are
getting
emails,
that
look
like
public
records
requests
and
they
could.
They
could
be
cyber
security
attacks,
and
so
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
fact
that
maybe
there
needs
to
be
a
study
done
on
this.
H
So
that
was
the
what
had
been
proposed
previously
was
appropriations
to
help
fund
some
of
the
help
cities
with
funding
for
some
of
the
areas
that
they
may
need
help
with
cyber
security,
and
so
the
discussion
this
time
is,
do
we
want
to
ask
for
appropriations
or
do
we
want
to
ask
for
a
study
with
regard
to
the
public
records
in
cyber
security
and
then,
of
course,
vacation
rentals,
still,
a
big
issue,
a
lot
of
the
cities?
H
It
would
not
necessarily
automatically
say
that
smoking
would
be
restricted
in
public
parks
and
beaches.
So
my
my
feeling
is
that-
and
this
is
that
vacation
rentals
would
still
be
a
top
priority
for
jack's
beach,
and
then
I
don't
know
where
we
want
to
go.
If
we
want
to
say
cyber
security
is
number
two
or
smoke
free
zones
is
number
two,
because
I
know
the
mayor
has,
you
know,
has
a
definite
interest
in
in
the
smoke-free
zone.
Issues
so
would
appreciate.
H
I
mean
I
can
talk
about
these
others
if
you'd,
like
the
matters
of
great
governmental
concern
or
municipal
elections
or
virtual
meetings.
But
again
those
didn't
really.
I
I
don't
think
that
those
are
going
to
have.
A
I
will
double
check.
I
believe
we.
A
B
A
D
I
just
wanted
to
to
comment
since
council
member
golding
mentioned
my
concern
with
smoking
in
public
places.
I
would
still
put
cyber
security
above
that,
just
in
terms
of
statewide
and
local
potential
negative
impact,
so
I
would
say
to
cyber
security,
three
smoking
in
parks
and
beaches,
just
the
the
ability
to
give
us
the
control.
D
It's
not
saying
that
we
would
do
anything
with
it,
although
I
think
personally
think
we
should,
but
but
to
at
least
give
us
that
control
over
our
own
amenities
here
in
our
community,
but
I
I
would
still
put
cyber
security
above
that.
A
Thank
you,
and
just
to
give
a
little
clarity
to
council
this
past
legislative
session.
In
conversations
with
two
of
our
representatives,
one
of
them
being
representative
byrd.
There
was
a
concern
about
any
legislation
being
written
that
would
allow
a
local
government
the
ability
to
restrict
smoking
on
the
beach.
A
C
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
think
cyber
security's
got
to
be
a
big
number
two,
because
as
a
business
owner
and
your
cyber
cyber
security
insurance,
it
really
isn't
gonna.
C
I
mean
they
say
it's
in
there,
but
it's
really
not
that
great,
and
so
any
thing
that
we
can
do
to
get
the
state
to
help
local
municipalities
for
cyber
security
is
definitely
huge
and
we've
seen
especially
this
in
this
last
year,
with
a
major
cyber
security
tax
that
they
are
more
prevalent
than
ever
and
and
insurance
isn't
going
to
help
very
much.
C
We
got
to
get
more
proactive
and
so
and
that
unfortunately,
costs
a
lot
of
money
so
to
get
state
help
with
financial
state
financial
help,
I
think,
is
very
important
and
would
definitely
trump
smoke
free
zones.
I
worry
on
that
one
that
we're
going
to
get
into
some
that
one's
going
to
face
a
huge
legal
challenge,
even
if
it
gets
on
to
the
legislature.
C
I
feel
like
big
tobacco
is
probably
going
to
fight
that
one
hard,
I'm
not
saying
that
it
wouldn't
happen,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that
one
is
is
going
to
face
a
very
uphill
battle,
but
kudos
to
both
of
you.
You
all
have
a
very
full
plate
compared
to
some
of
the
some
of
us.
So.
H
Well,
thank
you
all
for
the
input
last
year,
I
I.
I
would
remind
you
that
the
number
one
priority
was
vacation
rentals
for
this
committee
and
then
the
number
two
priority
was
cyber
security.
However,
the
and
all
of
you
may
I
I'm
sure
your
committees
probably
said
the
same
thing.
Our
committee
said
this
doesn't
mean
that
the
league
of
cities
won't
take
a
position
or
do
whatever
they
can.
D
I
just
say
something
really,
quick.
Sorry,
oh
you
asked
you
asked
if
we
had
questions
for
council
member
golding
and
I
don't
just
more
in
general,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
council
members
who
have
stepped
up
to
serve
on
these
committees.
I
can
already
tell
it's
going
to
be
a
benefit
to
you
all
as
legislators,
but
to
us
as
a
body
and
to
our
community.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
extra
time
and
effort
that
you're
putting
into
that.
D
We
have
not
been
very
involved
in
the
florida
league
of
cities
in
the
past,
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
really
positive
step
for
us.
So
so
thank
you
for
that,
then,
just
just
more
of
a
procedural
question
and
sandy
or
mike
you
might
be
able
to
better
answer
this.
If
something
I
know,
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
be
determined
by
by
legislation
that's
filed
and
how
hard
we
have
to
work
on
something.
If
something
comes
up
out
of
left
field,
does
it
have
to
go
back
through
the
committee
process?
D
A
As
other
issues
pop
up
during
the
legislative
session,
it
is
not
uncommon
that
email
blasts
will
come
out
from
the
florida
league
or
representatives
on
certain
committees
or
within
certain
groups
that
something
is
has
been
proposed
and
starting
to
gain
traction
and
basically
putting
out
a
call
to
start
having
conversations
with
your
elected
officials
as
to
whether
it's
something
we
support
or
whether
it's
something
we
think
we
should
work
on
a
middle
ground
or
something
that
we
flat
out
reject.
A
That
happened
quite
a
bit
this
last
year,
I'm
on
a
committee
that
is
comprised
of
about
25
city
managers
and
assistant
city
managers
from
around
the
state,
and
I
can
I
can
tell
you
that
there
were
probably
a
half
dozen
to
a
dozen
emails
that
came
out
for
us
to
give
an
administrative
input
which
then
went
to
the
florida
league,
and
then
some
elected
official
input
was
sought
and
then
ultimately
a
position
was
gained
and
we
started
pushing
a
certain
position.
I
know
that
councilor
golding
was
on
some
of
those
committees
as
well.
A
I
think
she
participated
in
short-term
vacation
rentals
and
trying
to
come
up
with
some
municipal
proposed
language
to
see
if
we
could
gain
sponsorship
rather
than
being
reactive
in
waiting
for
what
would
be
proposed
by
someone
without
any
municipal
input.
So
clearly
it's
very
fluid
once
you
get
into
legislative
session,
but
this
is.
This
is
clearly
just
to
create
that
top
tier
of
the
ten
that
are
most
important
to
the
florida
league
and
to
proactively
push
for
those
items
during
legislative
session.
Up
to
and
through
the
session
does
that
help.
A
Okay,
any
other
comments
on
florida
league
of
cities.
Before
we
ask
for
report
outs,
does
anyone
who's
been
assigned
to
a
to
a
committee
to
represent
the
city
of
jacks
beach?
Have
anything
they'd
like
to
report
out
on.
B
Well,
we've
been
we've
been
signed
to
find
a
chat
not
been
assigned
to
find
a
third
person
for
the
audit
committee,
so
we're
still
working
on
that
we
have
I've
submitted
a
name
today.
I
know
that
chet
has
reached
out
to
a
company.
I
want
to
speak
on
his
behalf,
but
we're.
B
To
get
that
third
person
for
that
audit
committee
still
and
we've
been
in
contact
with
miss
gosselin
about
that.
Just
a
quick
update.
C
Yeah,
just
a
piggyback
on
that
thanks
dan,
I
forgot
because
they
we
said
we
were
gonna.
I
think
I
actually
said
an
email.
We
were
gonna
talk,
oh,
never
mind.
She
talked
about
it
on
on
wednesday.
On
july
14th,
I
got
my
days
messed
up.
I
I've
submitted
a
name
along
with
councilmember
janssen,
and
then
I
also
have
another
one.
The
requirements
are
pretty
tight,
so
I
don't
think
either
of
us
have
found
somebody
that
fits
the
absolute
requirements.
C
But
you
know
some
smart
individuals
who
are
are
looking
to
help
out
enter
jax
beach
residents.
If
anybody
has
any
names
and
wants
to
help
dan
and
I
out
in
submittal
that
would
be
much
appreciated.
I
know
because
we'd
be
better
than
to
pick
from
a
group
of
a
couple
than
or
a
few
than
just
two
so
plus
availability
is,
is
very
tough.
When
you're
looking
at
six
meetings
over
the
next
couple
months,
somebody
volunteering
so.
A
Thanks,
I
think
we
I
think
we
had
said
at
a
previous
meeting.
If
any
of
the
council
members
have
a
name
they'd
like
to
throw
in,
they
can
throw
it
in
as
well
correct.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
we've
got
two
or
three
names
at
this
point
in
time,
but
clearly,
if
there
are
others
for
consideration
by
council,
please
forward
them
into
ashley
she'll
call
them
all
we'll
bring
them
back,
and
you
can
make
a
final
decision.
H
Yeah
to
that
point
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
have
a
district
newsletter
that
I
send
out
to
people
in
my
district
and
actually
outside
of
the
district
too,
and
I
put
some
information
about
the
the
need
for
someone
to
serve
on
that
committee
with
information
about
what
we're
looking
for-
and
I
did
have
a
gentleman
that
contacted
me
and
provided
a
resume,
and
I
I
forwarded
that
on
to
ashley
as
well.
So
he's
got
a
financial
background,
so
maybe
he
might
be
a
good
option
as
well.
B
A
A
A
lot
of
what
was
shown
in
there
was
basically
changes
to
our
requirements
for
dumpster
enclosures.
So
as
we
talk
about
the
ldc
that
would
basically
be
an
engineering
standard
that
we
would
refer
to
within
the
ldc.
So
it's
probably
going
to
be
more
applicable
that
we
have
the
conversation
at
that
point
in
time.
If
that
makes
sense,.
C
Awesome,
thank
you
mike.
I
was
going
to
ask
about
it.
I
knew
it
was.
It
was
a
low-key
issue,
but
I
do
do
you
think
it
could
possibly
fit
in.
So
thank
you
for
for
looking
at
that
and
look
forward
to
that
in
the
future.
A
All
right,
we
have
councillor
dumont.
G
Thanks
the
council
will
have
some
very
large
issues
coming
before
us
with
regard
to
land
use
and
puds
and
things
that
have
to
go
to
the
planning,
commission
and
us
some
cra,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
us
here
are
new
and
I
think
some
kind
of
a
future
briefing
topic
on
training
on
the
ldc.
G
Just
what's
it
what's
allowable,
what's
conditional,
what
the
difference
between
those
two
things
would
be
very
useful,
as
well
as
what
the
process
is
for
a
pud
and
things
like
that.
So
I
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
a
very
useful
future
briefing
topic,
especially
and
if
we
could
squeeze
it
in
before
we
have
to
vote
on
the
some
of
those
larger
developments.
I
think
that
that
would
be
even
better.
So
this
way
we
are
able
to
assess
the
information.
That's
presented
with
more
more
tools
at
our
disposal.
D
A
Yeah,
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
one
of
our
land
use
attorneys
that
we've
worked
a
lot
with
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Now
will
probably
get
an
idea
of
what
the
training
session
would
look
like
and
then
based
on
the
timing,
we'll
either
break
it
into
a
couple
different
sessions
or
see.
If
there's
maybe
like
a
three
to
four
hour
window,
where
we
could
hold
a
mini
educational
retreat
and
have
the
attorney
actually
come
in
and
hold
class.
A
H
There,
well,
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
it
that
do
we
want
to
invite
the
planning
commission
members
as
well
would
would
it
be
helpful
to
include
them,
because
you
know
they
have
to
deal
with
quasi-judicial
hearings
as
well?
H
A
lot
of
the
same
things
I
mean
they're,
making
a
recommendation
to
us,
but
they're
still
legally
bound
by
their
decision
and
you
know
have
often
had
we've.
I
won't
say
often,
but
we've
had
lawsuits
because
of
decisions
that
the
planning
commission
has
made,
and
and
so
it
couldn't
hurt
to
include
the
planning
commission
members
as
well.
H
And
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
the
name
of
the
gentleman
dan
and
chet
is
bruce
dickinson.
A
A
But
really
the
planning
commission
would
be
a
big
part
of
it
because
of
the
quasi-judicial
nature
of
it
brought
in
front
of
them,
but
yeah.
I
could
see
where
they
may
be
there
for
the
first
hour,
but
not
necessarily
for
the
remainder
of
the
training
based
on
what's
being
talked
about.