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A
All
right
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
this
is
the
may
10th
council
briefing.
We
have
a
handful
of
items
to
go
over
with
you
tonight.
First
on
our
list
is
going
to
be
introduction
of
our
new
cra
coordinator,
taylor,
mobs
heather,
ireland.
The
director
for
the
department
is
here
with
us
as
well
and
heather.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
do
a
brief
introduction
to
taylor
before
we
have
her
turn
her
camera
on.
B
Sure
I
would
love
to
good
evening,
mayor
and
council.
We
are
very
happy
that
taylor
keeps
coming
back
it's
week.
Five
monday
number
five
taylor
comes
to
us
from
st
mary's
georgia
and
we
are
very
excited
to
have
her.
I
know
everyone's
been
anxious
to
get
on
her
calendar
and
have
conversations
with
her,
but
I
will
let
taylor
go
ahead
and
introduce
herself
and
tell
you
guys
a
little
bit
more
about
her
background
and
experience.
C
Okay,
thanks
heather
am
taylor.
Mobs,
like
heather
said
I
came
to
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
from
the
city
of
st
mary's,
where
I
ran
our
main
street
program
and
our
economic
development
department.
In
doing
that,
I
got
to
work
a
lot
on
public-private
partnerships,
business
recruitment
retention
and
expansion
efforts.
I
did
a
lot
of
civic
engagement.
C
I
served
on
a
lot
of
different
boards
through
our
chamber
of
commerce
and
our
government
and
legislative
affairs
committees,
and
I
really
found
a
passion
for
working
with
what,
in
georgia's
tax
allocation
districts,
which
is
the
same
as
a
tif
in
florida,
or
very
similar,
really
kind
of
passion
for
public
private
partnerships
and
working
with
my
board
up
here.
That
is
basically
the
equivalent
of
a
cra,
and
so
when
I
saw
the
opportunity
come
up,
I
could
not
pass
it
up
and
I
am
very
excited
to
be
here.
C
You
know
pleasant
surprises,
I
didn't
know
when
I
found
out
that
this
was
a
completely
new
position.
I
just
wasn't
really
sure
what
I
was
going
to
be
walking
into
and
heather,
and
the
entire
planning
department
and
the
staff
have
been
phenomenal
at
helping
me
make
the
transition,
and
I
feel
like
here
in
just
a
month,
we've
actually
made
a
lot
of
big
advancements
and
kind
of
figuring
out
where
things
stand
and
what
directions
we
need
to
go
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
hopefully
move
the
cra
forward.
E
Raised
have
you
had
any
experience
with
or
have
you
had
the
chance
to
work
within
preservation
of
old
buildings
by
any
chance.
C
Yes,
I
have
so
in
st
mary's,
where
I
came
from.
Our
entire
downtown
is
a
historic
district
and
we
have
several
historic
buildings
so
pretty
much
any
and
every
project
I
did
in
my
downtown,
I
worked
with
hpc.
I
did
a
lot
of
preservation
work.
We
did
some
work
on
getting
some
grants
to
restore
one
of
our
old
buildings
on
orange
hall,
so
yeah
I've
done
a
lot.
I
actually
enjoyed
doing
that.
C
A
Seeing
no
other
hands
raised
we'll
let
taylor
jump
off
the
line
here
and
just
as
a
reminder
for
council,
we
did
invite
her
to
the
strategic
planning
session
friday
on
the
14th,
since
she
is
effectively
not
just
reporting
to
the
cra,
but
going
to
be
in
the
future,
a
liaison
between
the
cra
and
the
city
council.
So
it's
good
that
she
gets
an
idea
of
where
you're
going
from
a
strategic
planning
perspective.
B
F
A
C
A
A
A
As
you
can
see
from
the
agenda
memo,
it's
actually
multiple
parcels,
a
total
of
five
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
first
parcel
is
going
to
be
going
to
closing
in
short
order.
The
original
agreement
did
not
allow
for
purchasing
pieces.
However,
they
are
making
an
amendment
to
the
agreement
to
allow
that
to
happen.
A
So
the
first
piece
of
property
that
they
will
be
acquiring
is
going
to
be
the
northernmost
of
the
small
islands
parcel
which
is
actually
due
south
of
the
cradle
creek
preserve
that
is
owned
by
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach.
A
A
Miss
perry
did
not
indicate
what
the
cost
is
on
each
of
the
five.
But
if
you
consider
it
somewhat
of
a
pro
rata
share,
you
can
calculate
real,
quick
what
it
means
they've
already
raised
to
date,
so
they're
making
good
progress,
they're
going
to
be
closing
on
the
first
parcel
and
as
they
continue
to
move
forward
and
we
get
updates,
we
will
keep
those
updates
flowing
to
the
city
council.
A
Typically,
we
would
go
to
a
council
meeting
or
a
briefing
to
talk
about
our
budget
assumptions
and
the
budget
workshop
schedule.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
very
cognizant
of
is
to
some
extent
telegraphing
to
the
council.
What
are
the
big
picture
items
or
the
big
picture
assumptions
that
we
are
making
for
the
upcoming
budget
so
that
way,
if
there's
anything
you
have
heartburn
with
at
this
point
in
time,
we
can
address
before
we
print
a
document
that
rolls
out
the
door
in
july,
there's
a
cat
starting
to
poke
up
on
one
of
the
screens.
A
So
with
that
being
said,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ashley
and
she
will
walk
you
through
both
of
these
items.
Both
the
budget
assumptions
and
the
proposed
schedule
and
we'll
see
if
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
ashley
the
floor
is
yours.
B
Thanks
mike,
actually,
I
was
going
to
ask
aj
soto,
our
budget
officer
to
present
the
assumptions
this
year
he's
been
working
really
hard
on
all
the
different
expensing
revenues
assumptions,
and
I
thought
it'd
be
best
to
come
from
him.
H
Hello
thanks
ashley
and
mike
the
intro,
I'm
aj
soto,
I'm
the
budget
officer
here
for
the
city
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
to
the
process,
I'll
kind
of
give
you
a
brief,
brief
synopsis
of
where
we're
at.
At
this
point,
we
began
the
budget
process
in
earnest.
H
So
with
respect
to
the
budget
assumptions
for
the
budget
that
we'll
be
presenting
to
you
folks
in
july,
the
memo
that's
in
the
agenda
gives
a
pretty
general
overview
of
what
we're
kind
of
working
with
and
to
present
to
y'all.
So
the
first
thing
really
is
the
continuation
of
the
match
rate
at
3.9947,
the
value
of
a
mill.
I
H
I
would
imagine
that
would
go
up
as
soon
as
I
get
the
latest
estimates
from
the
property
appraiser
effective
june
1.
and
typically
as
soon
as
we
get
that
we
provide
a
summary
to
the
council.
So
around
june
1.
we'll
get
that
email
and
we'll
share
with
you
folks
what
the
estimated
property
tax
revenues
will
be
for
the
coming
fiscal
year,
we're
assuming
a
50
return
of
the
south
end
tif
funds
to
the
general
fund
with
respect
to
our
other
revenues,
that's
a
little!
H
That's
that
can
be
a
little
tricky
because
the
florida
department
of
revenue
provides
estimates
for
a
lot
of
our
state
shared
revenues,
things
like
the
gas
tax
and
the
half
cent
sales
tax,
but
ashley-
and
I
always
talk
about
this-
they
don't
live
and
die
by
those
projections.
The
way
we
do
so
they
can
issue
their
guidance,
but
then
we'll
look
at
it
and
see
what
our
current
experience
is
and
what
our
previous
experience
has
been
to
try
and
kind
of
gauge
what
a
decent
number
will
be.
H
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
go
along
here
with
this
memo
with
regards
to
expenses.
You
know
our
personal
services,
the
figures
you'll
see,
will
be
consistent
with
the
pay
plan.
The
last
pay
plan
that
was
approved
for
both
general
employees
lyuna
and
then
the
most
recent
one
you
folks
approved
for
the
police
pay
plan.
H
We
assume
all
positions
are
filled.
We
do
not
budget
for
a
lapse
or
any
kind
of
period
of
vacancy
for
any
positions.
We
have
added
currently
a
chief
information
officer
in
the
2021
budget.
We
actually
spun
out,
I
t
as
its
own
department
and
so
for
2022
we'd
like
to
see
the
onboarding
of
the
chief
information
officer
as
well.
H
So
initially
the
plan
was
to
do
a
deputy
fire
marshal
position
full
time,
but
we
have
found
that
three
part-time
positions
actually
provide
significantly
better
coverage
for
the
fire
marshal's
office.
So,
in
the
event
that
the
fire
marshal
is
out
on
vacation
or
something
like
that,
we
have
the
coverage
of
three
additional
people
instead
of
just
one
person
and
then
an
interesting
or
one
thing
I
would
say
which
was
a
pretty
cool
cost
savings.
H
We
did
allow
increases
where
they
were
contractually
obligated.
Some
of
our
contracts
have
annual
cpi
escalators,
but
other
than
that.
Any
reductions
that
were
identified
and
placed
into
a
reserve
in
the
2021
budget
process
were
released
back
to
departments
or
in
some
cases
where
appropriate
were
taken
as
permanent
reductions,
because
you
know
they
didn't
really
need
it.
So
I
do
want
to
compliment
the
department
so
far.
H
They
have
kept
their
requests
flat
and
they
have
been
very
helpful
and
working
with
me
to
try
and
present
what
is
a
responsible
budget
to
you,
folks
by
july
other
than
that
we're
debt
free,
as
you
all
know,
and
I
think
we're
in
a
I
think-
we're
in
a
good
position.
Budgetarily
I'll
know
more
here
within
the
next
three,
three
or
four
weeks.
G
A
One
of
the
I
think,
one
of
the
benefits
that
we
have
is
that
not
only
did
we
contract
with
jfrd
for
the
fire
services,
but
jfrd
utilizes,
a
schedule
where
the
employees
work
one
full
day
on
and
two
shifts
off.
A
So
we
currently
have
two
of
our
former
senior
personnel
and
a
third
that
we're
looking
to
start
up
that
are
providing
the
equivalent
of
one
day
a
week
or
two
day
a
week
service
coming
into
the
office
and
providing
those
inspection
services.
So
they
are
all
sworn
fire
personnel
that
are
providing
support
to
the
fire
marshal's
office.
H
Thank
you
mike
for
the
for
the
mayor
and
council's
consideration.
Here
is
a
background
of
the
schedule.
The
budget
workshop
calendar
that
we
have
planned
upcoming
for
those
of
you
who
might
not
be
aware.
Typically,
council
meets
one-on-one
with
the
departments
to
kind
of
go
through
their
business
plans
and
ask
any
specific
questions.
You
might
have.
It's
also
an
opportunity
for
the
departments
to
maybe
review
on
certain
portions
of
their
operations
that
maybe
don't
always
get
as
much
attention
throughout
the
course
of
the
year.
H
I'm
sorry,
I'm
laughing
because
I
see
I
see
dr
dumont's
cat
is
as
active
as
my
dog,
usually
is.
When
I'm
making
presentations
to
the
council.
H
It's
all
right,
let
him
do
what
he
wants
so
yeah
for
the
for
the
council's
consideration.
We'll
typically
have
the
showcase
the
last
day
in
july
or
july
30th,
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
make
this
big
presentation
to
the
council
about
what
it
is.
You
can
expect
to
see
as
as
we
meet
one-on-one
with
you
folks
and
with
the
departments.
H
It's
it's
formalizing
the
assumptions,
not
just
the
assumptions
that
were
made
in
the
budget,
but
it
also
provides
finality
to
the
product
that
we're
going
to
be
going
through
with
y'all
through
the
coming
workshops
there,
and
so
for
your
consideration.
There
we
list,
you
know
the
dates
the
times
which
departments
will
be
going
over
in
the
format
our
our
monday.
The
second
meeting
is
in
person,
but
that's
because
we
have
a
regular
council
meeting
right
after
that.
D
Not
regarding
the
schedule,
but
just
regarding,
I
know
that
we
did
the
kafka,
which
I
know
we're,
calling
that
something
different,
and
I
can't
think
of
what
it
is
right
now
digitally.
Are
we
going
to
get
books
for
this,
or
will
we
have
the
budget
digitally?
At
this
point?.
H
So
that's
a
wonderful
question.
I
appreciate
you
asking
that
I
can
do
either
or
typically
we
will
always
post
a
searchable
pdf
on
the
city's
website.
You
know,
as
as
time
has
evolved,
we
rely
on
paper
less
and
less,
but
my
plan
was
to
present
each
counselor
with
a
binder
ahead
of
these
meetings.
H
A
Aj,
seeing
none
oh
councilor.
J
Stokes
aj,
just
and
looking
at
the
schedule
for
the
tentative
dates
for
budget
adoption
and
then
kind
of
circling
back
to
the
last
point
on
the
millage
rate
and
property
tax
revenues.
We
have
the
south
end
tax
increment
fund
return
in
there,
and
I
don't
remember
exactly
when
we're
supposed
to
have
our
conversation
with
the
cra.
If
the
council
recalls,
we
gave
them
a
year
to
come
up
with
a
plan
on
the
reduction.
J
Will
that
and
this
kind
of
for
mike
will
that
will
we
be
able
to
have
that
conversation
in
time
for
budget
adoption?
Because
right
now
we
don't
know
if
we'll
have
that
50
and
based
by
september
7th.
A
I
would
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question
for
stokes,
but
certainly
that
can
be
a
point
of
your
conversation
when
you
have
the
joint
meeting
between
council
and
cra
on
may
26th,
I
believe
I'm
sure
that
that
will
be
a
topic
of
discussion.
A
I
think,
based
on
the
project
list
that
has
been
identified
to
date
and
is
possibly
considered
viable
projects,
I'm
not
sure
that
those
rise
to
the
level
of
100
collection,
but
that's
not
my
determination
to
make.
I
can
only
make
a
recommendation.
A
I
don't
know
if
ashley,
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
But
clearly
I
think
that'll
be
a
conversation
topic
on
the
26th.
B
Yeah
actually,
if
I
could
just
add
we're
pres
projecting
the
50
return,
this
is
not
part
of
the
formal
agreement
that
we
had
put
in
front
of
council
back
in
march.
This
is
based
on
our
estimates.
If
the
cra
develops
new
projects,
it's
unlikely
well
actually
with
the
timeline,
as
it
is
right
now.
If
the
cra
is
to
develop
new
projects,
the
cash
flow
would
happen
in
2023
or
later
so
at
the
end
of
2022.
We
are
still
projecting
a
surplus
in
the
fund
balance
in
the
south
end
and
per
the
state
statutes.
A
Okay,
hearing
none
aj.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
on
those
two
topics:
great
job,
thank
you
ashley
as
well,
and
we
will
jump
into
our
penultimate
items
of
the
night
beach
dune
protection.
A
A
I
All
right,
marion
council,
after
the
meeting
with
where
mr
kevin
brown
addressed
the
city
council
me
and
myself
and
mike
and
mr
brown
got
on
the
phone
and
we
had
a
conversation
to
kind
of
identify,
exactly
what
he
was
looking
to
do
or
what
he
was
requesting
that
we
do
so.
I
We
come
up
with
a
couple
of
avenues:
how
to
proceed
with
this
project
and
we're
kind
of
looking
for
the
direction
from
the
council
itself
to
help
identify
whether
this
is
a
project
that
the
council
wishes
us
to
supervise
the
installation
from
mr
brown's
fletcher
marine
coastal
club,
or
whether
this
is
a
project
that
the
city
council
would
prefer
that
public
works
just
undertook
installed
and
then
also
as
well
as
how
we
deal
with
the
maintenance
going
forward.
I
After
talking
to
mr
brown,
the
conversation
was
while
he
he
tries
to
do
his
best
to
keep
poles
up
and
ropes
up.
Sometimes
you
can
discover
that
large
areas
have
been
dropped
down
and
requires
a
little
bit
more
extensive,
upkeep
and
maintenance.
So
we've
got.
I
think
we
listed
them
out
in
the
in
the
briefing
memo
as
five
different
questions.
Just
to
kind
of
have
an
idea
one-on-one
as
to
which
which
direction
the
city
council
felt.
I
We
should
do
this,
and
the
first
question
was:
is
it
do
we
wish
to
actually
install
these
pvc
pipes,
tees
and
ropes,
and
signage
first
and
foremost,
is
that
a
project
the
city
council
endorses.
A
And
dennis
before
they
answer
that
question.
Maybe
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
what
you
found
out
of
pvc
pipes
around
some
of
our
dunes
and
what
you
currently
have
for
stockpiled
materials
at
public
works,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone's
aware
of
the
history
that
you
found
out
through
the
staff
of
public
works.
I
Okay
and
through
the
through
the
staff
at
public
works
the
year
that
we
had
two
hurricanes
back
to
back.
We
had
actually
these
pvc
pipes
and
ropes
installed
on
all
the
dune
areas,
as
well
as
on
all
the
beach
end
areas,
and
it
requires
both
to
be
installed
to
actually
be
an
effective
mechanism
to
keep
people
off
of
the
dunes.
I
I
Roped
off
and
that's
simply
because
we've
had
issues
a
lot
of
issues
with
people
getting
onto
the
dunes
from
those
particular
beaches,
so
those
are
still
up
even
today,
I
drove
them
friday
to
verify.
But
what
we
found
out
is
that
the
request
of
the
city
manager
at
the
conclusion
of
the
second
hurricane,
all
of
the
materials
were
removed
from
the
beach
all
of
the
pipes
were
pulled
up.
All
the
rope
was
pulled
up
and
and
all
the
signs
were
taken
down
or
most
of
the
signs
are
taken
down.
I
We
do
provide
signs
when
a
condo
owner
or
property
owner
makes
a
request
of
public
works
for
a
keep
off
the
dune
sign.
We
do.
We
do
provide
those
to
the
individuals
we
have
a.
We
have
a
stockpile
of,
I'm
going
to
say,
probably
close
to
10
to
15
garbage
cans
full
of
all
of
the
materials
we
need.
The
the
street
department,
superintendent
dave
mcdonald
actually
has
five
miles
of
rope
all
on
a
spool
ready
to
string
all
this
up.
I
In
the
event
that
you
know,
the
decision
is
made
that
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
do
this.
I
It's
not
really
been
something
we
do
as
a
as
a
proactive
thing,
because
it
does
require
maintenance,
and
it
does
require
quite
a
bit
of
work
to
make
sure
that
they
all
stay
up
and
as
the
dunes
and
the
sand
moves
around.
You'll
have
these
poles
that
will
all
of
a
sudden,
be
buried
to
the
top
and
then
you'll
have
other
poles
that
it
pulls
all
the
sand
away
and
they
all
fall
over.
So
there
is
it.
There
can
be
some
significant
maintenance
for
a
long-term
project
to
keep
up.
I
So
I
guess
that's
the
the
basic
back
history
that
we
know
that
that
we
we
did
have
them
up
for
the
period
of
the
two
hurricanes,
but
then
they
are
ultimately
removed
at
the
request
of
the
city
manager
and
they've
not
been
installed
simply
because
we
haven't
had
a
request
to
install
them
again
until.
A
Now
so
now
we
can
go
back
to
that
first
question
is
council,
does
council
desire
to
put
pvc
and
nylon
rope
back
up
on
the
beach
surrounding
the
dunes
and
the
first
hand
I
see
is
from
mayor.
D
I
just
wanted
to
say
after
this
first
discussion
I
was
I
went
out
for
beach
walk
and
there
is
still
some
pvc
pipe
and
yellow
rope
up
at
8th
avenue
north.
If
anybody
cares
to
see
what
it
looks
like
when
it's
not
maintained,
there's
also
a
rusty
old
bike
rack
and
you
can
see
the
old
boardwalk
there.
So
a
little
little
trip
down
memory
lane,
but
I
walked
north
into
neptune
beach
which,
where
they
do
have
the
rope
and
the
pvc
pipe
installed,
and
it
looks
really
good.
D
It's
probably
pretty
freshly
installed.
So
it's
it's
maintained
and
it's
orderly.
I
would
support
this.
I
do
not
feel
like.
D
We
need
to
do
it
across
the
entire
beach,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
do
it
in
our
high
traffic
commercial
areas,
especially
with
the
busy
summer
events,
particularly
fourth
of
july,
coming
up,
and
I
would
defer
I'm
gonna,
just
I'm
jumping
through
all
the
questions,
but
I
would
defer
to
mr
barron
on
if
we
have
the
capacity
to
set
up
well
with
high
school
students
or
if
it's
something
that
would
be
better
served
by
by
our
staff.
D
But
coach
brown
runs
a
pretty
a
pretty
organized
program
there
he
is
retiring,
so
I
don't
know
if
that,
if
his
leadership
of
that
program
retires
with
him
or
not,
but
if
he
says
he's
gonna,
do
it
he'll
he'll,
do
it
and
he'll
do
it
very
well?
So
so
I
do
support
this.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
it
all
the
way
down.
The
city,
though,.
K
Yeah,
so
I
did
the
same
thing
that
mayor
hoffman
did
and
I
actually
sent
some
photos
to
mike
of
what
was
done
in
neptune
beach,
and
that
was
completely
done
by
kevin
and
his
students
and
I
talked
to
kevin
about
it
and
he
said
that
they
are
100
willing
to
do
what
needs
to
be
done
to
get
it
installed
in
jack's,
beach
and
and
there's
even
an
opportunity
that
we
could
make
it
a
community
project
and
kind
of
get
some
buy-in
and
involvement.
K
I
personally
would
would
love
to
help
with
it
and
if
other
council
members
want
to
help
too,
I
think
that
could
be
a
a
team
building
project
for
us.
Perhaps
right
and-
and
you
know
I
was
thinking-
if
we
really
wanted
to
go
so
far-
we
could
get
people
who
live
in
certain
blocks
to
help
with
their
block
or
whatever.
K
K
Do
it-
and
I
personally
would
like
to
see
us
focus
on
the
high
traffic
areas
and
and
get
those
up
as
soon
as
possible,
because,
especially
before
memorial
day,
if
possible,
because
we're
gonna
have
you
know
we're
gonna
start
to
see
the
we
already
we're
already
seeing
a
lot
of
people
come
to
the
beach
on
the
weekends,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
our
dunes
protected
and
ultimately,
when
I
talked
to
kevin,
he
said
at
a
minimum.
K
He
thinks
it
would
be
good
to
have
the
the
fencing
from
16th
avenue
south,
maybe
all
the
way
up
to
seagate
in
the
long
run
and
because
you
know
anything
below
16th
avenue
south
is
more
residential
and
doesn't
get
quite
as
much
traffic.
But
in
the
near
term.
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
something
in
the
high
traffic
areas
for
sure
and
then,
if
we
can
expand
it,
you
know
a
little
bit
further.
K
F
Thank
you,
city
manager,
just
a
couple
thoughts,
the
I
guess
how
difficult
is
it
to
take
down?
I
mean
if
we
are
getting
into
a
hurricane,
a
hurricane
is
coming
and
if
those
wash
away,
I
wouldn't
want
them
to
get
into
the
ocean
or
you
know,
is
it
something
that
we
would
be
we
would
be
taking
down
or
they
just
stay
there
and
hopefully
make
it
through
the
hurricane,
or
I
mean,
as
things
were
washed
out
in
the
past,
we
probably
would
have
lost
a
lot
of
that
stuff.
F
So
I
don't
know
if
five
miles
of
nylon
rope
is
good
to
have
in
the
ocean.
Next
thing
is
in
the
south
jacksonville
beach
in
the
more
residential
area,
where
homes
have
direct
access
to
the
beach,
and
I
guess
they're
they're
required.
I
mean
we
have
to
supply
them
with
they
can
have
access,
they
can
have
their
own
pass
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
people
in
neptune
beach.
F
Some
arguments
begin
because
these
people
are
going
to
their
houses
and
people
are
yelling
them
about
being
on
being
on
the
sand
dunes
which
they're
legally
allowed
to
be
on.
I
don't
know
if
I
would
probably
skip
the
residential
area
in
the
south
and
and
focus
mainly
on
the
high
traffic
areas
and
where
there's
substantial
parking
and
stuff
as
well.
F
You
know,
I'm
I'm
pleased
that
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
people
in
the
dunes
on
a
regular
basis.
I
think
our
signing
and
our
messaging
out
to
the
public
does
work
pretty
well
now
that
people
realize
they're
not
supposed
to
be
there,
but
do
you,
I
guess
my
other
question
to
dennis
is:
do
y'all
see
a
lot
of
people
in
the
dunes.
You
see
a
lot
of
damage
having
been
done
by
people
at
this
time
and,
if
not,
is
it
really
worth
the
time
and
effort
of
maintaining
the
installing
and
maintaining
it?
I
I
think
what
we
see
from
the
public
works
end
is
on
any
of
the
walk
overs.
Where
there's
stairs
we
seem
to
have
a
problem
with
people,
bypassing
the
stairs
with
their
coolers
and
all
the
stuff
that
they're
dragging
with
them.
Obviously
they
don't
have
the
capacity
to
really
carry
them
up
the
stairs
and
over
the
dunes.
I
So
that
does
create
an
issue
on
the
on
the
handful
of
walk
overs
that
do
have
stairs
as
opposed
to
ramps-
and
I
know
our
directive
to
to
move
forward
on
the
dune
walkovers
themselves
has
been
to
replace
any
of
them
that
we
can
with
ramps.
You
know,
as
we
go
forward
to
to
help
eliminate
that
problem,
even
if
they're
not
in
an
ada
compliant
situation,
at
least
they
would
be
able
to
get
their
carts
and
their
ramps
and
their
bikes
and
all
their
stuff
up
and
over
the
ramp.
So
we
don't.
I
We
do
see
that,
and
we
do
see
people
on
the
dunes
and
most
the
time
it's
an
educational
piece.
It's
it's
not
our
our
local
locals
that
are
are,
are
hanging
out
and
playing
on
them.
I
It's
the
people
that
don't
have
any
idea-
and
I
know
in
talking
with
mr
brown,
some
of
the
ideas
we
threw
around
as
well
we're
trying
to
maybe
going
to
try
to
put
a
qr
code
link
up
on
some
of
these
signs
that
can
kind
of
kind
of
take
them
off
to
the
the
restoration
of
the
dunes
process
and
why
the
dunes
are
important
to
the
beach
and
how
it
functions
just
so
that
it's
not
a
keep
off
the
dune
sign.
I
But
there's
actually
some
information
availability
for
anybody
who's
concerned
and
wants
to
know
more
to
try
to
do
it.
And
that's
why
I
said
we
kind
of
tried
to.
We
didn't
know
exactly
where
to
go
with
this.
So
that's
why
we
kind
of
hit
it
as
a
as
as
a
a
pilot
project
from
the
from
the
second
avenue
south
to
eighth
avenue
north
the
main.
I
You
know
commercial
corridor
as
the
first
and
foremost
and
then
and
then
gonna
have
discussions
as
we
see
see
it
going,
and
I
don't
think
it's
ever
been
removed
because
these
actually
get
tied
to
the
walk
over.
So
they
run
from
the
walk
over
all
the
way
to
the
next
walk
over.
I
So
even
if
the
posts
all
came
out,
the
rope
would
still
be
tied
to
the
walk
over.
So
unless
we
just
completely
lost
all
of
the
walk-overs,
I
don't
think
we
would
lose
any
materials
in
a
hurricane,
but
obviously
you
know
we
go
out
and
collect
up
the
garbage
cans
and
stuff
like
that.
In
that
event,
gotcha.
G
I
agree
with
mayor
hoffman
and
sandy
golding.
We
could
probably
concentrate
in
the
higher
traffic
area.
I
know
in
front
here
above
of
the
wreck
and
the
pure
restaurant.
I
see
a
lot
of
people
going
into
the
dunes
and
I
will
be
more
than
happy
to
help
with
this
project.
Have
a
little
team
building
experience
get
the
community
involved,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
sponsor
decide
where
the
rick
is
and
maybe
a
couple
blocks
over.
I
think
this
is
great
and
count
me
in
to
help
out
that's
it.
K
Yeah,
just
a
quick
revisit
vice
mayor
nicholls.
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
that
mr
brown,
he
and
his
students
put
in
about
3
500
sea
oats
east
of
margaritaville
several
weeks
ago,
and
he
would
he
had
gone
out
there.
K
We
really
need
to
do
something
and
if
you
have
the
opportunity,
go
to
neptune
beach,
because
coach
brown
has
done
several
things
in
neptune
beach,
that
haven't
been
done
in
jack's,
beach
and
and
the
the
that
the
pvc
barrier
that
they
put
there
has
been
in
neptune
beach
for
a
while,
and
you
can
see
a
definite
difference
in
the
height
of
the
dunes
in
neptune
beach
compared
to
jack's
beach.
K
They
also
have
done
something
he
calls
a
great
rake
where
they
get
volunteers
out
there
and
they
rake
up
the
seaweed
to
the
toe
of
the
dune
and
that
helps
to
build
up
the
dune
as
well.
So
there's
a
lot
of
I,
I
see
a
lot
of
really
good
things
that
have
happened
from
the
the
effort
that
they
put
in
in
neptune
beach
and
I'd
like
to.
I
hope,
to
see
that
we,
you
know,
see
the
same
thing
in
jack's
beach.
If
we
were
to
do
this
as
well.
D
Just
a
few
things
I
heard
there,
I
a
few
of
us-
have
volunteered
actually
helping
coach
brown
and
his
group
planting
the
sea
oats,
and
maybe
we
can
encourage
him
to
engage
the
hotel
staff
perhaps
to
to
do
that,
and
I
completely
agree.
D
This
is
a
great
opportunity
for
community
engagement
and
for
the
council
members
who
are
willing
to
get
out
there
and
help
install
these
also
fernando
mentioned
sponsorship,
and
that's
probably
another
great
opportunity
that
we
have
to
help
fund
the
marine
science
club,
and
I
do
want
to
just
say
and
and
thanks
in
part
to
to
coach
brown
and
his
group,
but
through
a
lot
of
different
efforts.
D
If
you
look
at
historical
pictures
of
the
beaches,
there
used
to
be
a
sea
wall,
and
walls
don't
really
help
once
the
water
gets
higher
than
the
wall
and
then
followed
by
a
bunch
of
big
boulders,
were
put
out
in
front
of
the
wall
and
rocks,
don't
really
stop
water
either.
So
I
mean
that's
as
recently
as
the
60s
and
70s.
D
So
the
fact
that
we
have
such
a
mature
dune
system
that
we
do
right
now
is
is
really
in
stark
contrast
to
what
the
beach
looked
like
kind
of
in
the
pre-hurricane
pre
and
post-hurricane
dora
days.
So
I'm
for
one
really
proud
of
it,
and
I
think
it's
our
responsibility
to
to
help
protect
it
and
continue
that
growth.
So
I'm
glad
we're
having
this
conversation.
E
Yeah,
so
my
vote
is
for
letting
kevin
brown
and
his
crew
go
ahead
and
establish
it.
The
question
I
have
for
dennis
is
in
your
conversations
with
him.
Did
he
also
volunteer
for
the
maintenance
portion
of
that
as
well
or
is
that
being
pushed
on
public
works?.
I
The
answer
to
that
is
yes,
he
he
mentioned
that
he
walks
the
beach
every
day.
The
turtle
patrol
walks
the
beach
every
day.
They
know
concerned
citizens
and
people
in
the
area
walk
the
beach
and
when
they
see
these
down
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
take
the
time
to
put
them
back
up
or
or
at
least
try.
So
the
answer
is
really
yes,
it
ends
up
being
a
a
combination
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
make
sure
we
do
too.
Is
we
manage
the
expectations?
I
You
know
that
we
don't
have
crews
working
on
saturday
and
sunday
to
output.
These
put
these
back
up.
So
if
a
chunk
of
them
is
knocked
down
on
a
friday
night
and
we
get
a
call
saying,
hey,
there's
you
know
20
of
them
down
and
there's
ropes
all
down
you
know:
do
we
have
the
expectation
that
we're
willing
to
incur
overtime
to
call
people
in
to
put
all
this
back
up,
or
is
it
okay
to
just
be
addressed
on
monday
morning?
I
That's
kind
of
where
one
of
the
questions
at
the
end
was
aimed
at
the
volunteers
may
get
to
it,
but
if
the
volunteers
don't
get
to
it,
ultimately
it
comes
back
to
we're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
get
the
phone
calls.
So
we
got
to
kind
of
be
the
ones
that
are
prepared
to
do
the
maintenance
on
it
sure.
E
I
I
guess
that's
probably
an
extended
conversation
with
mike
with
kevin
and
mike
is
to
figure
out
how
that's
going
to
be
handled.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
this
being
an
emergency
basis
where
we
got
to
call
people
out
and
pay
them
overtime,
but
in
the
same
vein,
it
probably
wouldn't
hurt
to
make
a
phone
call
to
kevin
and
say:
hey,
listen,
there's
20
plus,
you
know
pipes
down
or
what
have
you
and
maybe
he
can
get
a
crew
together
and
on
the
following
wednesday
or
whatever.
I
And
we
managed
it
before
as
far
as
public
works
goes,
you
know
any
of
those
calls
we're
retrieving
monday
morning
and
we
just
naturally
put
a
crew
together
on
monday
to
go
out
and
just
you
know,
run
the
row
and
if
they're
down
put
them
back
up
and
get
them
get
them.
I
You
know
just
taken
care
of
on
a
monday
morning
scenario
following
you
know
following
the
weekend,
so
I
don't
know
it's
not
that
they
would
be
down
all
week
and
waiting
for
somebody
to
come
back
and
put
them
back
up
later
on
in
the
week
we,
you
know
we
will
be
sending
a
crew
to
address
it.
I
E
A
Setting
the
pvc
pipes
back
up
or
repairing
a
cut
rope
would
not
be
what
we
would
consider
to
be
high
priority.
So
if,
if
as
dennis
is
saying,
we
had
the
monday
crew
that
goes
out
and
they
reset
a
handful
of
pvc,
a
knock
down
or
fix
a
section
of
rope.
If
we
get
a
call
on
tuesday
morning
that
says,
there's
more
pipes
down,
we
may
or
may
not
get
to
it
by
the
end
of
that
week.
A
We'll
definitely
catch
it
on
the
following
monday,
but
if
we
have
crews
that
are
in
the
middle
of
overseeing
construction
projects
or
doing
pothole
repairs,
we're
not
going
to
be
pulling
them
off
of
those
pre-scheduled
projects
to
go
fix
this.
In
that
type
of
time
frame.
The
calling
might
have
to
wait
a
few
days
before
they
see
any
action.
A
Correct
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
all
understood
where
this
would
fall
from
a
priority
perspective
in
regards
to
other
work
that
public
works
has
going
on.
I
see
a
lot
of
heads
nodding,
so
I'm
not
sure
you
really
have
any
issues
with
taking
that
type
of
an
approach
towards
it.
That's
good
council
member
mesa,
followed
by
council
member
stokes.
G
Yes,
mike
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
so
now
we
could
clear
the
air
from
the
priorities
idea
question
to
to
dennis,
and
maybe
mike
so
if,
let's
say
20
of
these
pc
pipes,
ropes
were
down
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
the
beach
locals
here
will
probably
help
them
and
put
those
pvc
pipe
up
and
dennis.
I
know
you
brought
brought
up
the
heaven
the
qr
code
on
the
sign
now,
since
this
is
something
that
the
community
will
probably
participate
in
and
we'll
take
pride
in.
G
Is
there
a
way
that
we
could
add
hey
if
you
see
it,
if
you
see
a
pvc
pipe
down
or
a
rope,
please
put
it
up.
Is
there
anything
that
we
could
do
like
that?
Instead
of
having
to
call
public
works
and
let
them
know
I
guess
before
we
call
public
works
if
we
could
send
a
message
like
social
media
posts
hey
if
you're
in
the
area-
and
you
want
to
protect
dunes
out,
please
you
know,
feel
free
to
put
the
pvc
pipes
back
up.
Do
you
think
that's
something
that
could
work.
I
As
part
of
the
communication
plan,
with
that
qr
code
and
developing
the
you
know,
the
site
that
that
takes
you
to,
I
would
be
working
with
with
jacob
board
our
our
information
officer
to
do
some
education
out
there
on
facebook
as
well
and
any
other
social
media
platforms.
I
To
assure
that
we
can,
I
mean
I
agree
with
you
100
if
we
can
educate
you
know
more
of
our
locals
and
even
that
that's
an
opportunity.
I
know
several
people
on
the
council
have
their
own
pages
and
they
share
the
stuff
off
of
the
city
pages
as
well
as
as
sharing
it
off
to
the
to
the
jacksonville
beaches.
You
know
facebook
page,
so
I
think
that
that
multiple
opportunities
of
sharing
that
information
can
always
help
so
that
people
can
see
hey.
I
If
you
see
it
down,
set
it
back
up
and
a
lot
of
times.
That's
what
happens
people
will
you
know
the
locals
will
educate
the
people
that
are
hanging
out
on
the
dudes
until
it
becomes
a
point
that
it
becomes
aggressive
or
you
know,
and
then
they'll
just
let
it
go
and
and
let
it
be
what
it's
going
to
be,
but
a
lot
of
times.
If
people
are
hanging
out
on
the
dunes
they'll,
the
locals
will
say
something
as
long
as
they
don't
feel.
Like
it's
a
scenario.
I
I
Is
we're
just
a
little
concerned
that
this
can
become
contagious
because
people
will
see
it
in
some
areas
and
then
they'll
be
calling
and
want
to
seeing
it
in
more
and
more
and
more
until
we
do
the
whole
entire
beach,
and
so
that's
kind
of
why
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we.
We
clarified
that
we
were
interested
in
starting
as
a
pilot
program
and
then,
if
it
can,
if
it
can
be
pushed
out
to
expanded
north
or
south
or
both
fine.
I
But
at
the
same
time
we
will
get
the
calls
from
the
homeowners
on
the
south
end
that
want
to
keep
everybody
out
and
we
will
get
some
from
the
condo
owners
on
the
south
end
where
you
know
they
don't
have
the
same
protections
and
they're
wanting
it
as
well.
So
we
just
kind
of
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on
on
our
marching
orders
as
to
how
we're
how
we're
managing
this
program.
J
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
because
that's
what
I
was
going
to
kind
of
say
is
that
I
think
we
should
consider
this
8th
avenue,
north
the
2nd
avenue
south
a
pilot
project
and
really
run
with
that,
and
let
us
do
some
sharing
on
facebook
and
and
protection
sharing
and
have
city
of
jacks
beach
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Do
it
and
incorporate
the
technology.
J
I
brought
it
up
last
time
we
talked
about
this
and
it's
still
on
my
mind.
I
still,
I
still
think
some
heavier
protection
past.
This
would
be
something
to
consider.
I
know
back
in
it
would
be,
I
guess,
the
mid
90s.
There
were
some
fencing
on
the
beach,
and
you
know
I
remember
this
project.
When
I
lived
on
10th
avenue
south
it
was
done
there
and
I
remember,
being
at
an
air
show.
J
I
think
it
was
maybe
it
was
some
big
beach
event
that
had
drawn
a
large
crowd
and
there
was
the
pvc
pipes,
the
ropes,
the
signage,
and
there
were
still
people
on
the
dunes.
I
know
that
this
isn't
an
end-all,
but
signage
and
ropes
isn't
going
to
stop
somebody
who
really
doesn't
care,
so
I
would
like
for
us
to
at
least
in
the
future
consider
if
this
pilot
program
works.
If,
if
it
does
say,
oh
hey
we're,
we
are
making
a
dent
in
people
walking
on
the
dunes.
J
What
else
can
we
do
that
is
beyond
pvc
pipe
and
rope
similar
to
I
mean
in
when
I
lived
in
on
the
beach
in
the
90s
lived
in
the
waterford
there,
there
was
a
wooden
fence
and
you
couldn't
physically
could
not
get
on
the
dunes,
because
there
was
a
barrier
protection
there
and
the
sea
oats
had
grown
and
everything
into
a
way
that,
and
so,
if
we
could
at
least
get
something
to
get
some
sort
of
heavier
barrier.
J
I
think
that's
going
to
be
more
effective
than
pvc
and
signage
for
the
future,
so
I
do
support
getting
a
pilot
project
started,
but
I
also
think
that
we
should,
you
know,
try
to
find
something
more
permanent
to
to
enable
protection,
because
this
is
a
huge
part
of
our
mitigation
strategy.
Are
the
dunes
for
protecting
us
from
sea,
water
and
corrosion,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
protect
them?
I
think
is
important
for
the
whole
beaches
from
east
to
west.
I
Just
to
address
a
couple
of
your
things,
I
know
we
did
have
some
discussion
on
what
the
the
wooden
slat
fencing
internally
and
I
know
it
is
used
when
you
need
to
help
promote
additional
dune
structure.
I
I
Unless
we're
trying
to
do
a
dune
reconstruction
program
to
where
we
know,
we
want
to
the
deposit
of
additional
sand,
because
that's
one
thing
you
will
get
with
that
more
solid
fencing
is.
It's
got
to
meet
some
particular
rules,
just
like
just
like
your
your
structures
around
decks
and
whatnot,
so
the
kids
can't
get
their
head
stuck
in
them
and
can't
get
their
arms
stuck
in
them.
I
So
to
put
them
in
and
to
be
at
a
permanent
structure,
it
will
also
cause
additional
sand
to
be
dropped
in
that
area,
because
that's
the
natural
force
just
like
it
does,
for
we
use
the
same
thing
up
north
for
snow.
So
it
was
the
same
scenario
as
it.
It
causes
that
wind-blown
sand
to
be
dropped
at
those
areas,
so
it
will
help
renourish
and
re-establish
that
dune
in
that
particular
area,
but
it'll
also
make
them
bigger
and
right
now
we're
at
the
maximum
height
limit.
A
I
The
only
other
question
that
I
don't
think
we
have
any
direction
on
is
how
long
we
want
to
leave
these
barriers
in
this
place.
Is
this
going
to
be?
You
know,
just
to
the
end
of
the
summer,
just
the
end
of
hurricane
season,
or
is
this
just
going
to
be
open-ended
until
who
makes
the
decision
that
we're
not
going
to
have
him
any
longer.
A
Yeah
and
dennis,
I
think
what
you
can
probably
do
is
plan
on
marking
on
your
calendar
that
will
come
back
to
the
council
at
some
point
in
the
late
fall
just
before
the
holidays
and
we'll
give
an
update
to
council
on
how
the
program
worked
out
for
this
particular
summer.
A
Okay,
thank
you
dennis
marin,
council.
A
While
that
covers
everything
that
was
on
the
agenda,
I
do
have
one
last
question
for
you
tonight
I
sent
out
to
each
of
you
earlier
today
from
councillor
golding,
a
copy
of
the
florida
league
of
cities,
letter
that
was
being
sent
to
governor
desantis,
requesting
that
he
veto
house
bill
403
with
regards
to
home-based
businesses,
based
on
the
fact
that
there
were
some
amendments
that
were
made
to
that
particular
house
bill
on
the
last
day
of
legislation
this
particular
year,
if
you're,
all
okay
with
it,
I've
actually
taken
the
letter
and
modified
it
for
what
would
be
the
mayor's
signature
representing
the
city.
A
I
see
a
lot
of
people
saying
no,
so
we're
good
to
go
on
that
excellent,
so
mayor
we'll
have
that
ready
and
if
you're,
okay,
we'll
put
your
electronic
signature
on
it,
we'll
send
it
to
you
tomorrow
to
take
a
quick
look
at,
but
it's
basically
the
same
letter
with
just
a
few
modifications
to
remove
florida
league
of
cities
and
make
it
reference
to
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach,
mayor
golding
and
I'm
center
councillor
golding
and
councillor
meza,
we'll
start
with
councillor
golden.
K
I
just
wanted
to
mention
mike
that
in
the
league
of
cities
meeting
they
asked
that
we
send
it
to
michaela
and
I
think
that's
in
the
email
that
I
sent
you,
because
they
want
to
compile
a
packet
of
letters
from
all
the
cities
and
then
they
will
present
the
packet
to
the
governor.
I
imagine
we
could
send
it
independently
if
we
wanted
to
as
well,
but
they,
but
but
they
definitely
want
us
to
send
it
to
them.
So
they
can
include
it
in
one
big
packet
that
they
will
give
the
governor.
A
G
A
couple
of
things:
first,
one
is
related
to
this,
the
other
one.
I
think
I
could
just
wait
to
bring
it
up
non-related
to
what
we're
talking
about.
Can
we
email
it
individually
as
well
to
the
governor's
office?
Are
we
allowed
to?
Can
we
do
that
as
well?.
A
There's
there's
there's
nothing
that
precludes
any
of
you
from
reaching
out
to
the
governor's
office
and
expressing
your
concerns
with
it.
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
more
of
error
formality
to
it
when
it
comes
as
an
official
letter
from
the
mayor
on
city,
letterhead
and
clearly,
if
the
mayor
is
sending
it
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
and
the
city
council,
and
it's
representing
all
seven
of
you.
K
Just
in
follow-up
to
what
councilman
meza
was
saying
about
contacting
the
governor,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
there
is
an
appropriation
item
that
will
be
going
before
the
governor
as
well
for
150
thousand
dollars
for
the
license
plate
readers
that
we
would
like
to
get
for
the
jacks
beach
police
department.
So
that's
a
great
opportunity
for
all
of
us,
as
council
members
to
reach
out
the
gov
reach
out
to
the
governor
and
ask
him
to
support
that
line
item
and
mike.
K
A
And
for
the
benefit
of
all
council,
I
just
forwarded
the
email
to
all
of
you
that
I
sent
to
the
governor's
office
in
support
of
license
plate
readers,
so
it
makes
reference
to
the
line
number
and
the
sp
2500
reference
where
it's
located.
So
if
you'd
like
you,
can
use
excerpts
from
what
I've
already
put
together,
but
it
also
has
the
governor's
email
and
one
of
his
chief
deputies
that
is
in
receipt
of
these
as
well.
A
A
I
did
want
to
let
the
council
know
that
we've
currently
scheduled
for
may
24th
a
council
workshop,
and
that
will
be
in
person
in
the
council
chambers,
and
that
will
be
a
presentation
being
made
by
developers
for
windward,
which
is
the
new
ownership
of
beach
marine,
and
they
will
be
presenting
some
of
the
concepts
of
what
they
would
like
to
try
and
do
with
their
property.
A
There
will
be
a
precursor
presentation
by
our
in-house
staff
of
planning
and
development
who
will
walk
you
through
all
of
the
land
uses
and
zonings
that
are
currently
in
the
area
of
beach
marine
and
then
walk
you
through
what
the
process
is
that
they
would
need
to
follow
and
some
of
the
hurdles
that
they
would
need
to
overcome
in
order
for
their
project
to
become
reality,
so
that
will
take
place
on
the
24th
in
place
of
a
council
briefing.
So
I'd
like
to.
D
Oh
sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
future
briefing
topic.
I
apologize
for
missing
the
last
briefing.
I
would
have
done
it
at
that
time,
but
I'd
like
us
to
take
some
time
to
review
the
special
events
policy
for
the
city
it's
coming
up
on
five
years,
since
we
did
a
major
overhaul
of
it
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
might
be
inadvertently
happening
is
that
we're
precluding
events
that
we
would
all
probably
agree
are
not
only
resident
friendly
but
also
embrace
the
beach
life.
D
There's
a
woman's
surf
contest,
a
boat
show,
and
a
few
other
examples
like
that
that
I
think
we're
maybe
deterring
without
meaning
to
so
I'd
like
us
to
take
some
time
to
review
that-
and
I
know
ms
dumont
had
some
comments
on
that
when
we
last
updated
the
special
events
policy
a
few
months
ago,
which
I
cannot
remember
what
that
issue
was,
but
it
was
some
an
add-on
to
our
special
events
policy.
So
I'd
like
us
to
consider
that.
A
Are
you
all
good
with
bringing
that
back
to
a
future
briefing,
head's
knotted
and
a
thumbs
up?
Okay,
good
counselor
mesa,
followed
by
vice
mayor,
nicholls.
G
This
is
not
really
a
briefing
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up,
because
I
told
these
individuals,
but
I
got
a
poll
today
and
I
was
approached
yesterday
about
a
commercial
trash
pickup
and
it's
getting
really
bad.
I
know
you
know
this
already,
but
for
the
commercial
or
for
the
central
business
district.
G
We've
experienced
the
same
thing
and
I
know
it's
getting
really
bad
and
we're
going
into
busy
season
here
in
downtown,
and
I
don't
know
what
else
we
could
do
as
a
city
for
the
trash
pickup
to
get
better.
It's
just
getting
bad
the
dumpster,
the
dump
truck,
came
over
to
this
business
and
didn't
even
pick
up
the
trash
they
just
stopped
by
and
left
and
in
the
south
end
of
jacks
beach,
another
business
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
and
I
hope
we
could
do
something
with
the
company.
A
The
only
thing
I
can
say
at
this
point
is
that
it's
not
an
isolated
issue
and
it's
not
only
with
the
solid
waste
provider,
the
other
two
beach
communities.
I've
been
in
contact
with
both
of
their
city
managers.
Neither
of
them
are
happy
with
their
solid
waste
provision
either
one
of
them
uses
the
same
provider
as
us.
One
of
them
uses
a
separate
provider.
A
I
can
also
tell
you
that,
in
talking
to
charlie
latham
who's
now
working
with
clay
county
clay
county
is
also
having
similar
problems
along
with
areas
of
jacksonville
as
well.
So
this
is
from
what
we're
hearing
from
the
solid
waste
providers?
It's
an
employment,
related
issue.
It's
getting
people
in
the
seats
to
drive
the
trucks
and
having
the
regularity
of
the
same
person
in
the
truck,
so
they
know
what
route
they're
supposed
to
be
driving.
A
A
This
this
one
in
particular,
is
having
issues,
especially
with
the
transition
from
advanced
to
waste
management
with
their
takeover
of
the
company,
but
also
the
solid
waste
provider
for
neptune
beach
is
also
having
issues
and
they're
having
discussions
about
what
to
do
with
their
contract.
Going.
G
A
A
So
that's
something
that
again,
all
three
beach
communities
are
talking
about:
we're
not
sure
where
it's
going
to
go,
but
hopefully
it's
an
issue
that
resolves
itself
in
the
next
month
or
two,
especially
with
the
governor
taking
some
stances
with
regards
to
unemployment
and
requiring
people
now
actually
show.
I
think
it's
minimum
five
applications
per
week
in
order
to
be
able
to
collect
so
we'll
see
where
this
goes,
but
hopefully
we'll
have
some
resolve
in
the
next
month
or
two.
F
I
had
a
couple
possibilities.
First
of
all,
I
believe
the
governor
got
a
couple
bills
today
for
resiliency
on
his
desk,
and
you
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
grant,
funding
and
stuff
tied
to
that.
F
So
I
think
we
just
really
need
to
keep
that
in
our
forefront
where
we
are
as
a
coastal
community
that
we
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
obtain,
grant
funding
and
stuff
to
really
put
our
put
our
community
in
the
safest
situation
long-term,
possibly
that
kind
of
ties
into
the
infrastructure,
with
the
paving
and
putting
curb
and
gutter
and
and
sidewalks
in
the
community
in
the
in
the
residential
areas
that
are
west
of
third
street.
F
We
had
a
lady
come
in
a
couple,
I
don't
know
a
month
or
two
ago
and
she
has
a
property.
I
believe
it
was
like
fifth
or
sixth
south
that
got
flooded
continuously
and-
and
I
ran
into
her
a
couple
days
ago
and-
and
she
definitely
has
some
some
concerns-
and
you
know
I
know-
construction
is
getting
expensive
right
now,
but
I'd
like
to
see
some
kind
of
at
least
bring
that
forward
and
come
up
with
a
plan
of
how
we're
going
to
address
you
know
getting.
We
have.
We
have
the
right
of
way.
F
We've
got
everything
else
and
they
kind
of
a
lot
of
them
look
and
see
what
we're
doing
in
the
downtown
business
district
going.
Oh
well,
why
those
are
being
done,
but
nothing
over
here
and
they
kind
of
look
at
it
like
the
rich
people
are
getting,
are
getting
a
preferential
treatment
and
and
it's
hard
to
explain
to
them
where
the
tax
revenue
is
coming
from
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
to
get
them
to
understand.
F
But
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
in
the
forefront
and
try
to
figure
out
a
plan
to
get
the
rest
of
our
residential
areas
west
of
third
street.
To
a
you
know:
a
safe,
safe
conditions
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
and
you
know
hopefully
long-term
get
curving,
gutter
and-
and
you
know,
resolve
some
of
the
drainage
issues
we
have
on
that
side.
But
those
are
the
two
main
issues
that
it's
kind
of
concerned
about
right.
A
Now
so
to
try,
and
maybe
summarize
that
we'd
be
looking
at
residential
right-of-way
standards
and
level
of
service
and
long-term
improvements.
What
that
would
look
like
you
all
agree.
That
would
be
a
good
topic
to
talk
about
at
a
briefing,
maybe
get
a
presentation
from
the
public
works
director
as
to
what
a
typical
section
might
look
like
and
how
we
might
phase
that
in
over
a
long
period
of
time.
F
And
I'm
all,
and
I'm
also
a
fan
of
the
of
the
mixed
use-
mixed-use
pass
every
every
couple
blocks
that
you
know
our
asphalt
with
some
nice
trees
on.
So
we
can
allow
people
even
west
of
penman
to
bring
their
families
to
the
beach
without
having
that
they
could
have
shaded
areas
and
have
a
canopy
to
to
walk
under
without
having
to
walk
out
in
the
road,
and
I
think
it
would.
You
know
everything
to
make
our
our
community
a
little
more
walkable
and,
I
think,
is
always
beneficial
because
traffic's
getting
bad.
A
Probably
okay,
yeah
it'll
probably
start
there
and
then
may
follow
up
with
a
future
briefing.
The
good
news
is
is
that
everything
you
just
said
vice
mayor
nicholls,
we
have
dennis
barron,
heather
ireland
and
jason
fatidis
listening
in
and
all
three
of
them
have
been
instrumental
in
working
forward
on
an
urban
trail
initiative
for
the
city
of
which
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
requests
for
qualification
from
firms
to
help
develop
a
final
master
plan
for
us.
A
So
the
three
of
them
are
hearing
what
you're
all
saying
and
I'm
sure
they
will
take
that
and
incorporate
it
into
what
they're
working
on.
Thank
you,
council,
member
stokes,.
J
Yeah
this
is
a
two-part
kind
of
one
having
to
do
with
a
possible
future
briefing
topic,
but
before
our
city
attorney
left,
we
were,
you
know,
starting
to
really
make
some
headway,
in
my
opinion,
on
a
pilot
program
or
just
some
an
ordinance
or
pilot
program
for
micro
mobility
devices.
J
J
I
was
wondering
if
the
council
would
be
open
to
it
and
mike
would
be
open
to
it.
If
y'all
would,
let
me
take
a
stab
at
a
pilot
program
for
micro
mobility
devices.
Working
with
you
know
the
known
vendor
that
we
have
here
come
up
with
a
pilot
program
based
on
everything
that
we've
discussed
to
this
point
and
have
it
done
by
like
labor
day
sometime
around
there,
because
our
moratorium
does
come
up
in
at
the
end
of
the
year.
J
J
Since
we
do
have
a
new
city
attorney
coming
at
some
point,
I
could
do
it
entirely
on
my
own
use
very
little
resource
help
from
a
lease
on
just
kind
of
getting
some
of
the
information
that
we
have
and
then
by
sometime
right
after
labor
day
come
up
with
a
general
pilot
program
idea
for
a
briefing
topic
and
hopefully,
by
that
point,
have
most
of
this
stuff
knocked
out
without
taking
time
away
from
other
projects,
but
something
I
could
I
could
do
and
give
me
a
chance
to
take
a
stab
at
some
legislation.
A
B
My
concern
ends
up
being
the
legal
avenues.
The
last
time
we
spoke
about
it,
we
realized
how
much
we
are,
how
much
risk
we
are
opening
up
to
the
city,
and
that
is
something
I
think
is
best
handled
by
a
legal
professional
who
understands
risk
and
is
going
to
be
able
to
dig
into
what
a
lot
of
the
other
municipalities
are
facing
and
they
are
getting
sued,
left
and
right
and.
B
J
I
concur.
I
was
going
to
use
legal
friends
of
mine
who
wouldn't
mind
giving
me
an
hour
or
two
of
their
time,
just
as
a
friendship
to
to
look
into
some
of
these
issues.
I
wasn't
just
gonna
go
straight.
I
was
gonna.
You
know
actually
talk
to
some
people
that
might
you
know
have
some
bearing
coj,
which
their
pilot
program,
we've
kind
of
read,
is
not
very
good,
so
some
advice
on
what
not
to
do
as
well
as
kind
of
start.
J
Looking
at
and
pick
up
some
of
the
pieces
where
our
previous,
though
you
know,
use
elise's
knowledge
that
they
had
gathered
thus
far
to
you,
know
kind
of
do
all
that
stuff
on
my
own
and
and
take
it
time
off
of
staff's
hands
so
yeah.
No.
I
agree
that
there
were
legal
challenges.
Wasn't
just
gonna
pull
it
out
of
thin
air
without
a
legal
looking
at
it
legally,
but
I
thought
it
would
be.
J
You
know
we've
got
to
have
something
by
end
of
next
year
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
other
stuff
that
a
new
city
attorney
is
going
to
have
to
ingrain
themselves
on
rather
than
this.
So
but
it's
you
know,
it's
like,
I
said,
I'm
offering
it
and
it
just
comes
down
to
what
y'all
think
and
if
it's
worth
pursuing.
D
So
I
would
say
the
third
option
is
I
I
think
chet
can
do
a
lot
of
the
research
and
the
legwork
and
do
some
homework
to
get
it
to
a
point
where,
obviously
we
would
need
a
legal
review
and
would
want
to
rely
on
our
council
to
advise
us
before
we
adopt
it,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
research
and
legwork
that
can
be
done
between
now
and
that
point,
if
chet's
willing
to
do
it,
why
wouldn't
we
take
that.
J
Yeah,
that's
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
asking
for.
I
don't
think
it's
a
top
priority
like
like
I
said
I
I
think
to
have
something
at
least
to
talk
about
after
labor
day
is
not
a
terrible
idea
that
gives
us
a
couple
months
after
that
bef
you
know
to
before
the
moratorium
even
comes
close
to
an
end.
So,
but
I
I
to
the
mayor's
point.
In
my
opinion,
it's
not
something
immediate
and
it's
not
something
that
we
need
to
get
the
city
attorney
on
right
when
he
gets
here.
J
But
I
could
I
feel
like
I
could
get
a
lot
of
background
stuff
done,
and
I
don't
know
I
want
to
you
know,
do
something
that
is
is
fun
and
something
that
I
think
it
could
help.
So
that's
kind
of
my
my
project
that
I
thought
I'd
suggest,
but
I'm
open
to
whatever
I
just
it
is.
I
guess
I'm
asking
for
a
homework
assignment,
but
if
you
know
the
teachers
don't
want
to
give
it
to
me,
I'm
okay
with
that
too.
J
It's
less
work
for
me,
but
it's
also
something
that
I
think
I
could
contribute
with.
You
know
that
for
six
plus
months
from
now
six
months
from
now,
we'd
have
something
to
at
least
look
at
after
I've
done
a
lot
of
leg
work
and
then
hopefully
we
have
a
attorney
attorney
and
has
some
time
to
review
it.
At
that
point,.
K
I'll
just
jump
in
and
say
my
my
hope
would
be
that
whoever
we
hire,
maybe
they
have
some
experience
with
micro
mobility
devices.
You
never
know
but
but
I
certainly
I
don't,
have
a
problem
with
waiting
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
work
on
to
work
on
it,
because
I
I'm
concerned
about
the
legal,
the
legal
part
of
it
as
well.
E
I'll
keep
it
brief
as
well.
I'm
kind
of
in
line
with
with
the
mayor
end
and
you
mike
I'm
okay
with
taking
on
this
project.
However,
I
do
want
to
see
our
legal
team,
not
anyone
else,
because
they're
the
ones
that's
going
to
hold
the
liability
being
the
ones
that
review
it
and
I'd
like
to
see
it
come
before
council
before
any
pilot
program
is
put
in
place.
F
And
I'm
not
opposed
to
chat,
taking
a
look
at
it
either,
and
but
I'm
also
not
in
any
hurry
to
get
something
in
place.
It's
the
more!
I
look
into
these
the
the
more
challenges.
I
see
the
more
people
the
more
cities
are
getting
sued
continuously
for
it.
You
know
we're
in
a
unique
situation
where
this
micro
mobility
portion
of
it
is
really
not
a
last
mile
kind
of
situation,
because
our
the
way
out
communities
set
up
buses
or
anything
else,
that's
gonna
will
get
people
within.
F
You
know
a
couple
blocks
of
a
location,
that's
more
of
a
entertainment,
more
entertainment
than
it
is
a
actual
functional
transportation.
I
think
we
need
to
consider
that
if
we're
going
to
put
the
city
and
and
with
the
exposure-
and
you
know
the
time
and
cost
it
would
take,
but
I'm
fine
with
taking
a
look
at
it-
and
I
I
mean
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
it'll
go
anywhere,
but
I'd
like
to
see
what
he'd
come
up.
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
counselor
golding.
K
I
have
a
couple
of
things.
I
know
this
has
been
mentioned
a
few
times.
I
know
the
mayor
has
been
having
meetings
with
the
some
of
the
downtown
businesses,
maybe
perhaps
at
a
future
briefing.
K
K
Generally,
you
know
at
the
same
time
have
some
insight
into
what
the
concerns
are,
that
that
you're
hearing
from
the
downtown
businesses
and
and
then
one
other
topic
that
I
have
talked
to
mike
about-
and
it
has
to
do
with
this-
was
brought
up
at
the
last
briefing
by
mr
stokes
as
well.
There's
a
there's,
a
resident
who
lives
on
waterway
island
lane
and
they
they
want
to
do
some
dredging
behind
their
property
so
that
they
can
have
24-hour
access
to
the
icw.
K
The
the
marsh
that's
behind
their
property,
is
owned
by
the
city
of
jacksonville
beach
and
would
be
impacted
by
any
dredging
that
would
be
done
in
the
in
that
area,
and
you
know
I've
talked
to
mike
about
it.
This
is
something
that
mike
suggested
might
be
something
we
want
to
talk
about
after
we've
done
strategic
planning,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
as
something
that
I've
done
a
little
bit
of
research,
and
this
is
not
a
request.
K
That's
ever
come
before
the
city
before
so
we
don't
have
any
history
with
any
other
project.
That's
that's
been
like
this,
so
it's
kind
of
a
new
kind
of
a
new
area.
I
don't
know
mike
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
comments,
but
it
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
have
on
a
future
future
briefing.
A
Yeah
I
had
talked
to
counselor
golding
about
this
because
of
the
request
that
came
through
to
her
there's
a
homeowner
who
backs
up
to
one
of
the
tributaries
that
goes
to
the
intercoastal
waterway
and,
obviously
that
that
property,
the
water
access,
is
tightly
influenced
so
at
low
tide.
They
can't
necessarily
get
their
boat
out
at
high
tide.
They
can.
A
A
There's,
obviously
a
whole
lot
of
issues
with
this
request.
One
that's
first
and
foremost
is
precedent
with
regards
to
any
property
that
abuts
against
tidally
influenced
water.
If
the
intention
is
to
be
supportive
of
all
of
those
homes
to
have
24
7
access
to
deep
water,
deep
water
boat
access,
then
that
means
we
may
have
more
future
requests
coming
in
for
people
wanting
to
dredge
and
possibly
more
wetland,
mitigations
or
impacts
to
the
city,
property
or
other
private
property.
A
A
A
She
can,
if
she'd
like
to
or
if
anybody
else
has
information
from
any
of
the
committees,
projects
or
anything
they've
been
tracking
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
So
I'll
leave
it
to
council
for
you
to
share
whatever
information
you
might
want
to
share
amongst
yourselves.
D
I
can
share
briefly
since
it's
already
been
brought
up.
The
business
downtown
hospitality,
business
owner
meeting
was
held
two
weeks
ago
and
from
city
staff.
Taylor
was
actually
able
to
attend
heather,
ireland,
chief
smith,
mike
art,
graham
from
the
cra
and
jason
sharp,
I
believe,
from
the
police
department.
So
it
was
very
well
attended.
D
I
did
put
orange
crush
on
the
agenda
which
helped
with
the
attendance,
but
we
also
had
representative
from
visit
jacksonville
katie
matura,
who
came
and
gave
an
update
on
and
also
by
the
way
this
was
held
at
the
margaritaville
hotel.
So
we
got
to
see
their
event
space,
but
katie
talked
about
the
tourism
industry
in
northeast
florida
right
now,
some
of
the
numbers.
D
What
things
are
looking
like,
some
of
the
things
that
motivate
our
visitors
and
some
of
the
support
that
visit
jacksonville
can
give
to
the
beaches
through
our
visitor
center,
as
well
as
marketing
support
social
media
things
like
that,
so
they
seemed
very
interested
in
that
hang
on
one
second
alexa
turn
off
and
we
did
have
another
update
on
orange
crush
from
our
chief.
I
don't
think
it
was
any
new
information,
then
than
what
you
guys
had
already
heard.
D
But
one
thing
that's
positive
at
this
moment
is
that
the
business
owners
are
talking
to
each
other.
They
have
never
really
been
in
a
room
together,
like
you
would
kind
of
think
so.
They're
connecting
exchanging
information,
sharing
thoughts
on
not
only
this
but
other
other
challenges
and
opportunities
that
are
facing
them
downtown.
So
hopefully,
once
we
get
kind
of
into
the
summer,
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
little
more
kind
of
regulated
on
on
the
items
that
we
talk
about.
D
G
G
He
is
putting
he's
spearheading
a
volunteer
beach
cleanup
the
day
after
orange,
crush
I'll,
have
more
information
and
then
second,
I'm
getting
some
of
the
downtown
business
districts
to
donate
a
ton
of
water,
gatorade
snacks
to
our
first
responders
orange
crush
weekend
as
well.
So
if
you
guys
want
to
donate
a
case
of
gatorade
snacks
or
water,
please
feel
free
and
I'll
have
more
information
on
that
too,
as
well
as
we
get
closer
to
that
week,.